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 No.1531900[View All]

post instances of Wikipedia glowing, that is WP displaying blatant US/NATO propaganda or disinformation as facts
discuss ways of making WP glow less, including sharing sources that counter the glow. meta studies by reliable institutions are best
what to do if you discover radioactive material on WP:
>do NOT edit without logging in. otherwise your IP will be displayed. IP edits are viewed with more suspicion by editors. VPN or Tor IPs even more so
>DO register an account
>do NOT register more than one account per IP. sockpuppetry is not difficult to detect
>DO edit more articles than just those that glow. this helps build good reputation
>DO complain loudly on Talk pages. some articles are restricted, but Talk pages generally are not
>DO familiarize yourself with WP's bureaucracy. lib editors love referring to WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and similar to try and shut down discussion
WP editors are autistic, but not as autistic as the average poster here is. dedicated comrades can de-glow pages given sufficient numbers and patience
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 No.1736328

>>1736326
>Maduro isn't recognised as president of Venezuela
>Lukashenka isn't recognised as president of Belarus
>Taliban aren't recognised as government of Afghanistan
>Zaporizhe, Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk, Crimea aren't recognised as part of Russis
>Somaliland isn't recognised as a sovereign state
In ten years the "official" map of the world won't have any basis in reality

 No.1736444

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>>1736294
Michael Z when even other wikilibs are forced to conclude the battle ended in May 2023

 No.1736503

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>>1736444
check'd.
For comparison look at the "Liberation of Kherson" article.

 No.1736509

>>1736503
If this war wasn't the current thing or fought between geopolitically irrelevant nations this article would be called "Recapture of Kherson" or something. Hilarious. They don't even pretend to be impartial not even in titles.
My favorite thing about glowpedia's cover of the conflict though is that there's a page called "Russo-Ukrainian War" that covers everything from 2014 onwards. Just straight up uncritically transmitting Ukrainian state propaganda about how the Donbass War was just Russians invading.

 No.1736561

>>1736297
>They locked the talk page as well to anyone but recognised editors
your account needs to be older than a month and have made at least 500 edits. hence why more comrades should register accounts
>>1736503
>that flag in the background
also this article apparently passes muster for notability: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raccoon_of_Kherson

 No.1761810

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I probably have read tens of thousands of wiki articles in my life but this is the first time I have seen this warning over it. whoa

Anyone want to guess what the article is about? Hm?

 No.1761814

>>1761810
This happened in July 2022?

 No.1761826

>>1761810
This note is pretty common, though? You can see it a lot when browsing corporate, NGO and "literally-who people" articles.

 No.1761831

>>1736297
>it's the heat death of the universe, but bakhmut is still technically on-going you stupid rashist. reverted

 No.1761876

2022年有关中文维基的一个大新闻
当时我是披露这件事情的博主的粉丝,第一时间看到了这个

节选的报道来自:https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/531735718

> 有人从2012年开始就在中文的维基百科里编造假的古俄历史词条,从编辑历史里可以查到有4800多次


> 有个网文小说作者在百科上查资料,发现一个叫“卡申银矿”的矿场在历史上并不存在,引起了一些网友的怀疑。


> 进而,网友自然对这个词条的编辑者产生了怀疑,这个人创立了有200多个有关俄国的条目,而她引用的很多文献都是假的,该编辑者也参与了外文百科的编撰,网友们于是进行了紧急处理,并且封禁了该编辑者。


> 此外,网友们还发现,一些其他的知名编辑者居然也是该编辑人的小号,编辑者会自编自导地用小号进行相互的吹捧。


> 那她为什么要这么做呢?按照网友的说法,是为了在玩文游的时候取得优势。


> 造假者提及了“自己高中肄业,没有上过大学。”


> 这件事不只是维基出了一个坏人,还包括审核人员在其中的不作为,让整个中文维基百科陷入不可信的怀疑中。再加上她的词条被中文维基选为优质,被翻译成其他语言,以至于各种语种的百科上有关俄国历史都有可能都有虚构内容了,可以说造成的影响是相当严重的。


维基百科上关于这件事的词条:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhemao_hoaxes

知乎上有关这件事的谈论,其中包括了揭发者的回答:https://www.zhihu.com/question/537968219

老实说我也想在维基上恶作剧,我也是没有上过正式大学,为什么不能在维基上写一部托洛茨基组织的墨西哥游击队大战斯大林领导的美国共产党

In 2022, there was a major news story about the Chinese Wikipedia. At that time, I was a fan of the blogger who exposed this incident and saw it firsthand.

The excerpted report is from: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/531735718

> Since 2012, someone has been fabricating false entries on ancient Russian history in the Chinese Wikipedia. A review of the editing history reveals more than 4800 instances.


> A web novel author, while researching on the encyclopedia, discovered that a mining site called 'Kashen Silver Mine' never existed in history, raising suspicions among some netizens.


> As a result, netizens naturally became suspicious of the editor of this entry. This individual created over 200 articles related to Russia, and many of the references cited were found to be fake. The editor also participated in the compilation of foreign-language encyclopedias. In response, netizens took urgent measures and subsequently banned the editor.


> Furthermore, netizens also discovered that some other well-known editors were actually alternate accounts of the same individual. The editor would self-promote using these alternate accounts to praise their own work.


> Why did she do this? According to netizens, it was to gain an advantage while playing online literary games.


> The fabricator mentioned that she 'dropped out of high school and never attended college.'


> This incident not only revealed a dishonest contributor on Wikipedia but also highlighted the inaction of the reviewing personnel, casting the entire Chinese Wikipedia into a cloud of distrust. Furthermore, her entries were selected as high-quality on the Chinese Wikipedia, translated into other languages. As a result, there is a possibility that fabricated content about Russian history exists on encyclopedias in various languages. The impact of this situation can be considered quite severe.


> Wikipedia entry regarding this incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhemao_hoaxes


> Discussions on Zhihu about this matter, including answers from the whistleblower: https://www.zhihu.com/question/537968219


To be honest, I also want to pull a prank on Wikipedia. I haven't attended a formal university either. Why can't I write about a Trotskyist organization's guerrilla warfare in Mexico against the American Communist Party led by Stalin on Wikipedia?

 No.1761883

>>1761814
>>1761826
No I have ever only seen the note with 'this article seems to be based on own research etc.'

Not this one that explicitly says PAYMENT

 No.1761885

>>1695186
>Since then far-right parties have failed to gain enough votes to attain political representation
Well tbh the cheeky part of this is pretending like this means far-right ideologies lost popularity in Ukraine when the reality is that such ideology just got integrated into the policies of parties that had more than just "fuck Russia" as a plan for governance.

It'd be like saying because UKIP lost popularity after Euro-scepticism got integrated in to the policies of the Conservative Party, the UK no longer desired Brexit.

 No.1761899

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Hinkle
the state of Hinkle's article now is hilarious, given that it was seemingly started by infrared people
>Politically, Hinkle has been variously described as an American conservative, MAGA, right-wing, and far-right influencer.
while it does mention Hinkle claiming to be an ML, it doesn't mention what party he's involved with. probably because he isn't

 No.1761935

>>1761810
Here is the article:

French oligarch and owner of major newspaper and internet providers, as well as domestic partner of Europe's richest billionaire.

 No.1761994

>>1761899
>seemingly started by infrared people
Those people are banned from Wikipedia now btw. Seems like they were probably paid editors. One of them had a past of making promotional pages and had already been topic-banned or something. Pretty good chance Hinkle paid some people to make the page.

 No.1762236

>>1761994
>Pretty good chance Hinkle paid some people to make the page.
would be hilarious if true
>hmm today I will wander into a nest of libs and write a self-aggrandizing page about myself and Haz
>oh no I have been exposed and now they've extended-protected the page about myself and are exposing my barely concealed grift

 No.1764855

>read the wiki page on Katyn out of curiosity
>includes direct quotes from Goebbels taken at face value

 No.1764904

>>1764855
does this look like the face of a liar to you?
the Katyn page also doesn't mention the German brass found at the site

 No.1782852

>>1532191
>>1532459
I see that this has actually been removed from the List of genocide and no wikilibs has since brought it back

 No.1787372


 No.1787811

>>1531900
good thread i saw a single transhumanist singlehandedly overhaul several jfk and nixon related pages.
don't doubt how autistic this website is, but always remember glow wins

 No.1806892

>>1806780
liberal child's understanding of the USSR
>>1806808
OK. I did as you asked. :^)

 No.1806894

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>>1787372
>Xinjiang Genocide: REALS BECAUSE U.S. ENEMY
<Palestine Genocide: FEELS BECAUSE U.S. ALLY

 No.1806901

>>1806894
>Western state funded media: reliable
<Russian state funded media: not reliable
it's a fucking miracle al jazeera is tolerated

 No.1806907

>>1806894
I think the best interaction I had so far was one wikilib going "RT has received medals from Putler!", as if the CIA isn't heavily involved in pretty much all US mainstream media. but then again WP considers RFE/RL to be "reliable" so..

 No.1807197

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>when the blowback is getting so intense that panic wikipedia edits seem like a good idea

 No.1807385

>>1807197
if you look in the Talk page you'll see the problem is that the sources are a bunch of tweets
it isn't out of the ordinary for pages to have lackluster sources that only get discovered when their subjects gain sudden notoriety

 No.1807394

>>1807385
Nobody cares

 No.1807400


 No.1807440

>>1807394
i do actually care that the information im spreading is true

 No.1807441

>>1807385
do you think the nyt or wapo are ever going to report on this? the only sources available are obviously going to be alternative media (which westoidpedia conveniently doesn’t consider to be reliable)

 No.1807442

>>1807440
and it being on bourgeois media makes it more reliable to you? lmao retard

 No.1807444

>>1807440
That's nice, but Glowpedia clearly doesn't.

That the burgers were Caught In the Act here isn't controversial.

 No.1807445

>>1807442
are you really arguing that unsourced tweets are reliable

 No.1807447

>>1807444
obviously, that is why im here in the glowpedia thread. IS-K also clearly glows hard as fuck, ive been noting that in a few threads for the past few days. i dont see why any of that should mean i defend unsourced tweets as good evidence, it just makes what i know to be a well-grounded position look like crank shit

 No.1807448

>>1807445
>unsourced
lmao you're such a fucking dog to capital, it's unreal
https://nitter.poast.org/AmrullahSaleh2/status/1463039531268120579#m
https://nitter.poast.org/StateDeptCT/status/1462900194094116867#m
president of the islamic republic of afghanistan (american puppet govt) and an official twitter account of the US state department, both from 2021
KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

 No.1807454

>>1807447
Again,
Nobody cares, most people will just lap this shit up not think you're a crank.

 No.1807456

>>1807448
ok i was totally wrong, did not know that from the screencap of sources and i did not open twitter to check

 No.1807458

>>1807456
>did not know that from the screencap of sources
it's literally written right there in the screencap, that's how i got the link to the tweets

 No.1807505

>>1807394
I'm going to agree with >>1807440 . we should care that porky uses what presents itself as a bottom-up effort to collect and spread information, for spreading porkoid propaganda
>>1807441
maybe, maybe not. make some noise about it at least

 No.1809369

>>1807394
>Nobody cares
>>1807444
>That's nice
>isn't controversial.
>>1807454
>Again,
>Nobody cares
This is a known, flagged hasabra tactic. Everyone itt thread clearly cares. Shut the fuck up.
>>1807456
>ok i was totally wrong,
Retardation or glow, the outcome is the same: disruption.
>>1807448
>>1807458
Based.

 No.1810600

>Wikimedia grows rich as Wikipedia donations are used for political causes

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4458111/the-wiki-piggy-bank

 No.1811302

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Something I just found today: Searching "leftism" returns "antisemitism" as a top suggestion.

 No.1818333

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My favorite moments from Wikipedia is when they have to tell the truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harvest_of_Sorrow - under "background"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Bukharin - under "Fall From Power"

 No.1818348

>>1818333
What should be known about that Conquest character? He is being referred quite a lot it feels.

 No.1818429

>>1818333
>The Harvest of Sorrow had a clear moral intent, namely that if the older Soviet leaders were direct accomplices in an artificially contrived famine and the younger leaders today still justify such procedure, then it followed that they might be willing to kill tens of millions of foreigners or suffer a loss of millions of their own subjects in a war. Conquest stated: "I don't think they want to blow Western populations to pieces. But if they came to America and imposed the collective farm system, then they might well organize a famine."
Conquest just making shit up
>a variety of sources
>Soviet fiction
lol
>Conquest had 'adopted the Ukraine exile view [on the origins of the famine of 1932–33], and he has persuaded this reviewer.
conveniently ignoring that Ukrainian exiles were largely fascists
>>1818348
his WP page even admits his estimate for the number of dead in the purges are greatly exaggerated:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Conquest
>By [Conquest's] estimates, Stalinist purges had led to the deaths of some 20 million people. He later stated that the total number of deaths could "hardly be lower than some thirteen to fifteen million."
of course J. CHAD Getty disagrees with this nonsense

 No.1818431

>>1818429
>In 1986 Conquest affirmed that "a science-fiction attitude is a great help in understanding the Soviet Union. It isn't so much whether they're good or bad, exactly; they're not bad or good as we'd be bad or good. It's far better to look at them as Martians than as people like us."

 No.1820201

idea: users cleaning up radioactive material (glowie lies) on WP could adopt the moniker of liquidators. thoughts?

 No.1820654

>>1818431
>Mars
>God of War, Mars

 No.1820993

>>1818333
To continue the trend of Wikipedia admitting open-secrets, here's a screenshot from the Angolan civil war page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War ) basically admitting that they used Hollywood as propaganda. Here's the link to that Jack Abramoff guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff

Also, I don't know if this counts, but it seems that on the history page of The People's Republic of Mozambique ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Mozambique ), they keep using a source by João Cabrita, which was published by these guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palgrave_Macmillan
Is João Cabrita the Robert Conquest of Mozambique?


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