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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA

>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY

<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan

📖 • https://designopendata.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/understanding-media-mcluhan.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE

>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs

<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko

>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DBF3E860993373223D72E98FADF0F2DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs

<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=054E022C8BD24EE2C5595B575BCED7DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4

<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY

>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5BD20E0E22FC8BC2CB4F8A7760D57027
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4k26xGx1zI

<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q

>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI

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SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL

>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30

📖 • Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm
📺 • Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw


<Documentaries

The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc

HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco


>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw

The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI


<Situationist Archives

https://situationist.org/
https://notbored.org/SI.html
https://bopsecrets.org/SI/index.htm

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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing
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>>2403678
Retard on a Jeep.

>>2403063
>2nd point: Well, a) does not apply anymore and b) is dubious. Asking yourself as an American what your life would have been like if your ancestors had never left Britain/Germany/France and then checking some stats on Wikipedia will tell you that your standard of living would have been likely slightly higher.

My ancestors all left the old world because they were oppressed peasants. Irish and Welsh escaping Sassenach exploitation or Swedes and Germans escaping poverty and aristocratic tyranny. Being like "well you should have just stayed home" smacks of the same sort of shit nativists throw at immigrants now where it's like, yeah, I guess Pedro could just stay home and die in ignominious poverty or maybe they could come here where there's a chance they won't have to watch his children starve.

>>2403728
>Countries that aren't full of white people do not have public health issues?

From what I've seen online "white" is a euphemism for "bourgeois" because saying the b word exposes you as a class reductionist tankie, as opposed to keeping the conversation properly focused on race and centering colored people, I mean people of color.

>>2403772
>Being like "well you should have just stayed home"
Do you think that's the position articulated in the comment you reply to?

>>2403728
<The beliefs that land can be owned by people, and that occupation is a right, reflect a profoundly settling, anthropocentric, colonial view of the world.

If land can't be owned and people don't have the inherent right to live on it then what's the justification for decolonization and returning all this land to people that never owned it and have no right to it

>>2403728
>Another fucking Occupy cuck
I hate you fucking copers so much bro, in reality, Occupy was inherently a cross-class movement, the “99%” is a dogshit, anarchist-coded, populist statement that implicitly includes the petit bourgeois and labor aristocrats and everyone that doesn’t have hundreds of millions in income; the literal strategy of Occupy, a movement started by fucking Adbusters, was essentially to accomplish nothing and demonstrate “trve democracy” while the capitalists (that weren’t in their camp) could happily ignore them

Garbage in, garbage out, things like what you quoted weren’t the reason for the failure, but a symptom of the immediate failures of the movement

>>2403794
No one cares faggot

>>2403793
Land ownership wouldn’t exist in communism
>Actually communism is state/public ownership!
Yea you are a liberal lmfao

Between the Sister Hong scandal in China and now this Tea app shit, it really hasn't been a good week for men who use dating apps.

>>2403795
I thought someone willing to waste so much time typing all that out would, guess you’re just another coping leftoid liberal that needs to tell itself OWS was ever heading somewhere

Anyway please kill yourself and your family, ty


>>2403786
Not in that comment no, but the implied position of this idea of "settler guilt." I don't think there's anyone, anywhere in the world that isn't the descendant of people that moved somewhere from somewhere else, usually at the expense of someone already living there. The alternative to this implied original sin is just to not have come, which I think for most people and most of history isn't a very realistic expectation.

>>2403801
Whatever, faggot

>>2403811
Socialist Commodities 😍🤑

>>2403796
Who are you quoting?

>>2403815
Trvke: the Sentinelese are the only people in the world who aren't SSettlers

>>2403811
based and cute.

>>2403794
Yknow it’s always weird how when people point out how a bunch of progressive stack decolonial nonsense helped kill occupy there’s this weird defense where it’s like “well occupy was useless anyways”. Like whenever anyone critiques these social movements, the defense is to always say we can talk about anything BUT the social movements.

Like wasn’t there one protest that land back types killed because they kept trying to center native issues on an unrelated protest? Point is I’ve got way more sympathy for the folks at occupy than the decolonial types—yet people will always insist that the latter is always something you should never ever critique.

I’ll go back to the metaphor of a preacher that spits in peoples’ face wondering why his church is empty. Someone says “stop spitting in peoples faces” and he asserts that’s unimportant compared to whether he analyzed biblical numerology correctly.

>>2403815
To be fair it seems aggressively clown tier to claim the policies of the Mongol Empire still affect people the way racial apartheid in every state colonized by Europeans still does

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>>2403729
It's windy out there too which is why so many wind power turbines are out there. So the stink carries for miles.

I was driving past one of these cattle ops a few weeks ago with my brother, and looked over and saw a fuckton of cows in a feed lot, and I was like OH NO and then a second later we got hit by this acidic wall of stank. You don't just smell it, you feel it. And it burns.

>Well, people around here say that's just the smell of money.

>>2403793
The authors either mean racial-collective ownership or they haven't really thought much about it since they don't actually believe in it and it's all faux-radical posturing.

>>2403794
>the “99%” is a dogshit, anarchist-coded, populist statement that implicitly includes the petit bourgeois and labor aristocrats
Yeah that's a fair assessment, but I'm not 100 % with the rest of your comment. I don't believe Occupy was stabbed in the back at the cusp of some victory, I frankly can't even imagine what would have been a victory as they didn't have any formalized goals yet, but they did get stabbed. At best Occupy could have been an incubator for something else and it got destroyed too early.

>>2403801
Anon >>2403795 is not me, I am the walls-of-text anon.

>>2403829
>I’ve got way more sympathy for the folks at occupy than the decolonial types
Same. I have more sympathy for dorks with wrong ideas than for people that are dishonest.

>>2403838
>The authors either mean racial-collective ownership

Imo that just sounds like blut und boden but woke.

>or they haven't really thought much about it since they don't actually believe in it and it's all faux-radical posturing.


Considering they're just academics that's what I'd put my money on.

>>2403796
Yeah but these decolonial people clearly aren't communist

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>>2403811
The original post which started this story was about the letter seen in the picture

>>2403811
>Marx collecting Labubus beyond the grave
Love this for him

>>2403856
Heartwarming

>>2403678
i can't be the only one to wonder if he's tiny or the jeep is huge right

>>2403856
genuinely sweet

>>2403856
Revisionist and parasocial

>>2403838
>Same. I have more sympathy for dorks with wrong ideas than for people that are dishonest.

Yknow one of the most stark images of the OWS protests was the protesters marching past some hedge fund or what have you, and these stock broker types decided to have a party on the balcony. They were popping champagne bottles and literally pouring it onto the streets, they were taking pictures and laughing at the protesters. They had beautiful women in jewelry with fancy dresses smirking down on them. And I thought: my God they’re just daring people to lynch them. They’re daring all these folks that got kicked down and spat on in 2008 to force open the doors and hang them from their fucking balconies. It was just a depiction of pure class antagonism.

Nothing the Right said during or after Occupy stuck as much as that image. They tried to make some “I am the 54%” type of deal where it was all “I work two jobs and don’t have healthcare, I’ll be damned if my money goes to some fucking MOOCHERS!” But it was just these rich assholes sneering at the crowd that stuck.

Now there’s of course some section of intellectuals who’ll cynically talk about “Harumph, muh cross class character! Anarchism! Liberalism! Revisionism! Sentimentalism!” While Occupy undoubtedly failed for numerous tactical reasons, it represented a more organic movement of the working classes in this country than any fucking nonsense that the thousandth Marxist-Leninist reading group has accomplished. It’s not that they don’t do anything, it’s that they can’t. They’re detached from the concerns of working people. If they made a call: “workers! Take to the streets! Against finance capital! Against Trotskyite revisionism! Against Anarchism!” They’d be fucking ignored.

Apologies for the rant, but by God, you’ve got people that couldn’t even spur a third of the class antagonism brought on by Occupy trying to sneer that this is all because of the esoteric dogma disputes that literally only they care about.

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our boy poljak sure gets around

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>>2403881
Oh, here are the photos I mentioned.

These “people” are mocking you.

>>2403352
Not banning kids from the web and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race.
>>2403678
In a world where cringe has been normalized it's quite amazing H*z continues to outdo himself
>None of these scammers are rooted in any working class base!
Is he referring to himself and his cushy petite bourgeois background, including never having worked a job a single day in this life?
>Uhm sweetie elections are useless, when the choice is between sucdem "I dunno maybe we shouldn't genocide everyone in gaza and feed the homeless into a woodchipper" and "We should incinerate every Palestinian child with napalm, force renters to sell their kidneys, cut all taxes for the rich and kill every socialist"
>You should stay home or join us in the REAL STRUGGLE which is supoooorting random countries on xitter and giving me money on Twitch

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>>2403856
>>2403861
>>2403869
lol this is so retarded sorry

>>2403910
>In a world where cringe has been normalized it's quite amazing H*z continues to outdo himself
He's trying to do the Lenin-on-the-armored car thing.

>>2403912
>The real rulers aren't on any candidate list, they're on the Epstein list.
I think some of them were on both lists.

>So the way to hold them accountable will also be outside the system.

This sounds radical, but I don't think "holding the elites accountable" was what Lenin was going for. It was about expropriation of property and power. Not "make them pay" but abolish them as a class. He's going to hold them accountable? You're going to hold your class enemies to account? Like you would on a business ledger? How do you hold the politicians "accountable?" You vote them out. How do you hold corporations accountable? You regulate them more. This isn't the same as the state being "a special organization of force: it is the organization of violence for the suppression of some class."

>>2403870
Okay Zoomers are “cooked” as they say. Parasocial lmao. The most forever alone generation.

>>2403912
>>2403678
Distinctly remembering a dude raking me over the coals here because the CPUSA basically told Haz to fuck off after his attempt at taking over the party. Lots of “they proved they’re opposed to REAL communists!!!!”

Yknow beyond his love of the Mongol Empire (fucking why?) he’s dressing in black, he’s talking about the 4th political theory, like just call yourself a fascist at this point. Fucking Zoltanous does it.

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>>2403352
is this year finally the year the internet gets killed off for real

>>2403937
I'm waiting for his inevitable Maupin moment where he "disavows" socialism. He'll be all
>The ACP is about PATRIOTIC communism which as nothing to do with Marxist communism!
There's literally no one on the "left" who likes him. Doesn't help he's a shit stirrer who is always punching left and trying to suck up to reactoids.

>>2403912
>Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump scammed an entire generation,
When reality finally kicks in your twitter brain

>>2403948
That quote is real “Marxism is the capitalism of the working class” tier energy.

Thing is I can at least respect Zoltanous for saying he’s explicitly a fascist. Trying to LARP as a Mongol communist is just sad on a whole other level.

>>2403912
>le masses rhetoric
>democracy is only le bad when it manifests in a specific territory
so close yet so far

>>2403910
>>2403912
Forgetting that fact Haz himself is a joke, he is not wrong here. Elections have always been a way to sheepdog the left and sap independent action. Unions don't really cut it anymore and they are almost impossible to build for most service jobs. Communists do need to build organizations to accomplish tasks outside the official system.

>>2403973
EleKKKtions are waste

>>2403920
Parched soul and withered heart.

>>2403973
Yeah but doesn't the ACP participate in elections THOUGH?
I remember them being happy cuz one of their own got a pencil pusher position on Vermont.

>>2404000
The acp only participate in elections they cannot lose unlike cpusa

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>>2403963
>Trying to LARP as a Mongol communist is just sad on a whole other level.
I got triggered slightly because half my family is from Amarillo, and most of them left as soon as they could. I've been there a few times. This reminds me of the King of the Hill episode with the businessman from Boston who comes to Texas and has a romantic image of it.

Amarillo is like a mix of slightly surreal and "ugh God I live in a shithole." It's like that Iron Butterfly song which is greasy and gross and also goes on forever.


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