>>2690048>The whole uyghur genocide narrative is disingenuous on its face. Ask any Chinese person and they will be quick to point out that Americans don't care for Chinese people or Muslims but by some strange alchemy are very concerned with Chinese Muslims. That is to say it's not a cause of the animosity, just a post-hoc excuse for it.You're not wrong. I guess I should have elaborated on that, because while they do believe in uighur genocide, they don't care about it for its own sake. More like, as liberals China represents an existential problem for them and the uighur issue serves as a useful moralist "apolitical" justification for their animosity. That is to say, they don't have to personally examine or rationally justify their behavior because of the assumptions baked into it.
>>2690860if you have to "believe" in materialism, then its a structure of ideas, not an apparent reflection of reality.
>>2690882he has a point tbf
>>2690874Materialism is a structure of ideas and if you think it is anything but then you are philosophically naïve.
>>2690806Ishowspeed (D) vs MrBeast(R) is inevitable
>>2690896Idealism is to have a conception of reality where there is a unidirectional relationship between consciousness and its perceived environment, whereby consciousness takes the supreme role, i.e. consciousness produces the world and determines how the world unfolds. Dialectical materialism posits that there is a mutually influencing, bidirectional relationship between mind and its environment, with both operating materially. The human brain necessarily makes sense of the world with structured ideas that it regularly updates by resolving contradictions which are a stressful and unstable state for the brain when aware. So making sense of the world with structured ideas isn’t itself the problem here.
>>2690814I didn't understand half the words there.
So he's some 20 year freak that pumps his body full of hormones and cosmetic surgery?
>>2690874Some reatrds think the earth is flat, but it's not.
You my friend are a retard.
>>2690949How is that different from tr*nshum*nists?
>>2690874>then its a structure of ideasyeah that doesnt mean materialism is idealism, it means it is a theory
>>2690874You're confusing the map for the territory and declaring real world geography doesn't exist because people use maps to explain it.
>>2690951There is no difference except he's a man trying to be more of an ideal man instead of an ideal woman. If he was leftist all the insults for his looks would disappear from the left and rightists would be talking how bogged and fake he looks instead.
>>2690969It just shows the absurdities of these culture wars that we now know we're spun by Epstein and his zio bourgeois buddies.
Either way the bourgeoisie that runs the medical industrial complex here wins.
In addition these idealists that strive for the platonic form of a gender are a walking contradiction which I worry how about it will be resolved.
I will never be happy until every traitorous right wing reactionary latin american has been sodomized and thrown into a volcano
>>2691021You are not even starting to comprehend the extent of the inter-pedophile solidarity and the lengths those people will go defending each other, even if they aren't even personal friends.
>>2690378Why does being technology stop LLMs from being intelligent? Seems like you have an idealist understanding of intelligence where it is based on something inexplicable and immaterial.
>>2690054He doesn't support AES nations.
>>2690806you can go to iran with a us passport it's just harder to get the visa and you can only go with a tour guide
>>2691065do you know what llms are and how they work
>>2691143He's been recruited into the theil matrix. I can't keep up with who's who in the world of chinlets anymore, but none of this is organic.
>>2691143possibbly hooked into the theil network, also i saw a tweet that said clav and adam are managed by the same agency
everything you see on the internet is fake.
its a big club and you aint in it
"goyslop" and "russian saboteur slave" is acceptable lingo on anti-imperialist/third-worldist twitter now lol. Apparently leftwing anti-semitism does exist (in an isolated corner of the internet). Meanwhile most actual neo-nazis are desperately trying to explain how it's actually good that the president was best friends with a jewish pedophile Mossad asset. What a bizarre world.
>>2691172>russian saboteur slavek * ike slave
goddamn word filters >>2691172Because people finally figured out that its not 1920. Jews, even ignoring those in Israel, are in fact on average quite reactionary and have been for a long time. If you're gonna say "angloid" there's no reason to get in arms about jews.
>>2691065Are you just saying "idealist" because it sounds good or something? It's explained what is meant. LLMs are a technology that, like all technologies before them, mediate relationships between humans. This isn't idealism. It's actually clarifying that the material relation does not vanish when a machine becomes capable of producing a good (in this case, software, or specific kinds of knowledge based labor).
I actually think your description of this as idealism is almost backwards.
The goal of assigning "intelligence" to LLMs that equates them to humans to mystify relationships and confuse material reality with consciousness in the most idealistic way possible, by assigning material products TO consciousness itself. It's like ur-idealism.
We can all be sure that our tech billionaires will NOT be giving up their billions when LLMs rule the world. Why not? Because they know that dominating and controlling LLMs is how they dominate and control societies, their real ultimate goal.
>>2691172can you post some examples? that has not been my experience
>>2691204You're going at it backwards, you're saying the AI can't be intelligent because it is technology, and because it is technology it can't be intelligent and its idealist to say so. But none of this is addressing reality. It doesn't matter if AI is 'technology' (a vague and undefined category), what matters is if AI is actually intelligent. You're letting your ideology dictate your understanding of reality, which is idealism.
>>2691226I think you should ask the “intelligent” machine of your choice to explain your confusion here. Because you are conflating of production of goods with consciousness and claiming that otherwise is to deny reality. Nobody is denying that machines can replace forms of human labor. That’s materialism, not idealism. Please learn what the terms you are using mean and address the conclusion of the post you are replying to.
>>2691235I actually don't understand what you mean, I don't understand your logic at all.
>>2691237It’s a machine that produces goods and preforms service. What’s hard to understand about that? That’s not new, this describes most machines. It’s owned and controlled at economic scales by a specific class of people, and they collect its profit. They won’t give up their profit or this control. Why not? They have “intelligences,” and things like “consciousness” are just minor quibbles in the margins of philosophy, irrelevant (or even “idealist”) I’m told. So why do you think they care about maintaining a system of domination and inequality between them and other human beings? Is it that they are maybe not actually “intelligent,” but are infact machines that produce goods and perform services? “Skeptics” are not denying reality, but infact, seeing through the mystification of what is happening and understanding things materially.
>>2691261Inevitable consequence of the Epstein files is tinfoil accelerationism
>>2691052it's sad. he first tries to engage in meaningful journalism, then runs to do this. he did the same during the george floyd protests/riots, calling it a horde of uneducated, unproductive, stupid hooligans.
>>2691443Is he really a rightoid? He just looks like an anime review channel to me.
>>2691443btw - if you're a man, never do this.
No one cares. No one will genuinely sympathize with your and you're just opening yourself up to ridicule. For instance, if you find yourself at absolute rock bottom, homeless on the street huddled against an alley wall with your dog, people passing by will say "oh that poor dog." That's just how it is. Harden up and grow a stiff upper lip.
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