/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2557367
Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau

>>2557402
fr on g bruh

>>2557400
Dihgoyaah sounds like an Hindu God

>>2557367
Kim Kitsuragi

holy communism drip

Is there anyone here that regularly checks in on /pol/ or other rightoid forums? Curious if they talk about the popularization of the term ZOG on the anti-zionist left. (And other efforts to exploit the Gaza genocide the "redpill" people or whatever)

>>2557498
i havent heard zog being used commonly except that one poster on here. but i have heard 'jewish supremacism' being used far more often post oct 7. Dr Norman finklestein has also adopted it and dr david miller.

>>2557217
Logical conclusion of 3rd world ism

>>2557312
BE is not socially smart enough to troll lol

>>2557217
who is BE, this sounds based

>>2556825
>harassed
lmao twitteroids are so delusional.
So are you lot, apparently.
>>2557235
>Why did you put "harass" in quotes?
NTA but probably because he was in no way harassed.

>>2557501
>i havent heard zog being used commonly except that one poster on here. but i have heard 'jewish supremacism' being used far more often post oct 7. Dr Norman finklestein has also adopted it and dr david miller.
I'm seeing "spiritually Israeli" used all the time on the left in my feed.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/spiritually-israeli
https://forward.com/culture/780883/slang-spiritually-israeli-meme-meaning/

If the kippah fits.

>>2557501
>david miller
Total crank
<Oh noe noam chomsky tricked nasrallah into abandoning "quranic analysis" with one conversation!

>>2557512
He's right. I can't believe I never made the connection that this brand of "anti-zionist" all stems from Chomsky worship. It is so obvious now that I read it.

>>2557514
>Leon Bronstein
Trotskybros…

>>2557515
Botstein not bronstein

>>2557514
You really think nasrallah was so stupid that one convo with chomsky tricked him into abandoning the correct "quranic analysis" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to be)? This narrative was concocted by aor people who wank over nasrallah but don't like that he said Israel doesn't control the US, to absolve him by claiming he was persuaded by a lib/westoid/jew. The unintended side effect of it is that this portrays nasrallah like some retarded toddler incapable of thinking for himself

>>2557517
somewhere out there Trotsky is still alive, thirstposting in his letters

>>2557511
The L.A. Dodgers are spiritually Israeli? Nah, they don't play baseball in Israel. They play their own retarded beach version of pickleball. Now THAT is spiritually Israeli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matkot

>>2557482
rare hasan w

>>2557514
Chomsky aside, how is separating the idea of Jewishness from Zionism bad?

>>2557503
>BE is not socially smart enough to troll lol
Seems to be working since 5 people are taking the bait here.

>>2557536
It's neither here nor there. Is prejudice wrong? I guess so. #notallevangelicals, #notallscientologists. But you have a country that calls it's self the Jewish state, but you can't call them Jewish, because a guy with a funny mustache put some of them in ovens in Europe almost a century ago. If there was like a country that was the Mormon country, and they were doing the shit Israel was doing, I wouldn't be wasting my energy always going "akshually some Mormons don't believe in what the Mormon state is doing." It's about always framing the Jews as "the true victim" in any possible situation.

Also that wasn't the only thing listed. That's just one layer of this left targeted hasbara that was listed in the post. The main thing is promoting the legitimacy of Israel. I think the two state solution makes absolutely zero sense. It's all a smoke screen so Israel can slow walk to finally getting to the whole pie, just as much as Trump's "peace plan."

>>2557540
>Vid
And look how fast the Jews start moving too, once the criticism of Israel starts coming back on them outside of Israel? But,
<ooohhh nooo the Jews got their fee fees hurt
<This is literally 1930s Germany all over again!

>>2557540
>>2557543
Oh yeah, and most of all, how it's unkosher to ever mention their might be some connection between their insane religious beliefs, the ideology that is directly based off those religious beliefs, and their actions.

It's hilarious how every American leftist hates evangelicals with a burning passion, but Evangelicals are like the most Torah focused of all Christian denominations, and that's where their worst insanity comes from. So it's well and good to criticize that, but then the same leftists will turn around and say you can't criticize Jews WHO BELIEVE IN THE EXACT SAME TEXT, WORD FOR WORD.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-03/ty-article/.premium/a-grim-poll-shows-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans-its-brutal-and-true/00000197-3640-d9f1-abb7-7e742b300000
https://archive.is/Mpi5v

>And when asked directly whether they agreed with the position that the IDF, "when conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites acted when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, namely, to kill all its inhabitants?" nearly half, 47 percent, agreed.

>>2557536
jewish chauvinism goes beyond zionism

CPI - Communist Party of Ireland
CPI - Communist Party of India
CPI - Centre of Political Innovation
CPI - Communist Party of Italy
ICP - 'International' Communist Party (of Italy)

>>2557574
ICP - Insane Clown Posse

>>2557540
>>2557546
You are mixing three different definitions of Jewish (the Jewish ethnic group, the religion Judaism, Zonism) into one thing. The whole point being made is that it needs to separated so that the people born into the Jewish ethnic group don't need to believe in Judaism or be Zionist.

Also I agree leftists should criticize all Abrahamic religions, not just one or two.

>>2557562
And? Chauvinism isn't inherent to an ethnicity. Norman Finklestein is Jewish yet he criticizes Jewish Chauvinism.

>>2557579
read israel shahak

What an odd format for such a serious subject.

>>2557581
Yes, Judaism is an ethnocentric religion. Jewish people don't need to believe in Judaism though.

>>2557585
Probably to get kids to watch it.

>>2557575
New ICP unlocked

chat is this true?

>>2557217
I’m starting to think we shouldn’t be taking anything that BE says post 2024 seriously.

>>2557643
he is right about zohran and platner, sorry

Learning about Gilles Châtelet. Very /isg/

Hindus and Cowdung as observed by Niccolao Manucci.

>>2557672

Niccolao Manucci (19 April 1638 – 1717) was a Venetian writer, a self-taught physician, and traveller, who wrote accounts of the Mughal Empire as a first-hand witness. His work is considered to be one of the most useful foreign sources for the events that took place in India under Mughal rule. He also documented folk beliefs and customs of the period.[1]

>>2557641
nta
For the record, I think BE is just trying to bait drama with anti/ACP people. But IMO, confrontational language aside, I see a point somewhere in there.

For as much as ACP *may* (or may not) be a Larouchite glowfest grift built on social media clout and opportunism and whatever you may say about their politics… it's still a greater departure from mainstream USAno politics than voting within the bipartisan system, for the next PR agency product, who is chained at the hip to the party.

>>2557698
This is not surprising actually, and I've come to believe there's a kind of ultra-left/BE to ACP pipeline. As much as the ACP claims to be patriotic Americans (which I don't believe), what they're really doing is outflanking the third-worldists who construct their politics around simply being anti-American and anti-Western rather than being for anything. (I don't know if third-worldism is an accurate term, but at any rate bear with me.)

The problem with this ideology is that there are, in fact, anti-American groups and governments in the world that operate on socially and politically reactionary principles. Both things can be true at once: the U.S. government can be genuinely reactionary or oppressive, and so can many of its enemies. But for some people, that's impossible to comprehend. This is all too complicated for people to handle, and it makes you have to think too hard (and too much), but there are historical examples. One example that you might be familiar with were the Axis Powers in World War II who were not remotely pro-American or pro-Atlanticist by any measure.

But I think these third-worldists (again, bear with me with these loose terms) have tried to construct a progressive image around some of these governments that does not reflect reality, which has left them vulnerable to being outflanked by a group like the ACP because those guys OPENLY worship that reactionary stuff and can actually be WELCOMED by those groups and governments, and then they use that to flex on everyone else because they're the most authentic "communists." But that's how the people they're outflanking in this competitive ideological struggle have defined communism.

So, if your standard is: my politics is to support whatever opposes the U.S. like BE does, then why not join the ACP? Or support them? They've just taken that logic to its conclusion. But the plot twist is that you can also become a mirror of what you hate. You end up becoming structured by your opponent. You take on their categories and obsessions like American culture war politics.

AI is being used to generate fake cries for help now. sick shit.

>>2557778
I was seeing my boomer dad earlier and saw some of the A.I. slop he was scrolling. The boomers are so cooked. 💀

there's a non-negligible chance that bad empanada gets involved with the ACP

>>2557698
If this is the same thread I'm reading then it's a frustrating discussion, BE is right that ACP has transformed into one of the biggest organizations outside of the party structure, but refuses to specify exactly what they're doing right, because if he goes into specifics then he risks revealing his hand, that the ACP too has non-grassroots support behind them (particularly suspicious is how much Hinkle grew once Musk bought xitter), their org strategy is just kinda left in the air and the other guy in the discussion gets thrown all the responsibility for not organizing as effectively as the ACP, which is a nonsense point. Very sus why BE is suddenly throwing ACP a bone.

>>2557786
There was that Revolutionary Blackout Network guy. It's a type.

>>2557788
The local chapters don't seem to have much direction. I went and looked at them (having not done so for several months) and saw this, which is: "our chapter gathered to walk along the beach in this gambling shithole in New Jersey and observe that this sucks." Then if you listen to Haz, his theory is to primarily use the internet (which he somehow believes is not at all controlled by capital and rigged against you) to spread communism until there's a civil war in the United States at some indeterminate future date in which the ACP can then rise up and unite the country like Mao did.

>>2557764
>politics around simply being anti-American and anti-Western rather than being for anything

Why are burgoids simply so retarded? Why are they unable to think dialectically? Its so strange that one can so fundamentally miss the point, how do you actually feed yourself?

Like do you just think that Engles and Lenin were wrong and imperialism is just an ideological construct? Or are you just malicious and want to murder third world people with impunity? Honestly you people are trying harder and harder with the strawmanning but it just makes you look more and more dimwitted and inherently malicious.

>>2557820
On further reflection I think you people really are just that evil. You get faced with the consequences of your attachment to the genocidal USA and your first instinct is to strawman up a villain to punch at because your entire world view can be summed up as USA good poor people bad. It honestly makes me wonder the sheer weight of the cognitive dissonance required to hold the positions you people take. I suppose it must hurt a little?