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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA

>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY

<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan

📖 • https://designopendata.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/understanding-media-mcluhan.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE

>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs

<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko

>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/baudrillard.-1970.-the-consumer-society/Baudrillard.1981.Simulacra-and-Simulation.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs

<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://altexploit.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/slavoj-zizek-the-sublime-object-of-ideology-second-edition-the-essential-zizek-2009.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4

<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY

>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://www.are.na/block/4114741
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4k26xGx1zI

<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q

>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI

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SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL

>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30

📖 • Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm
📺 • Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw


<Documentaries

The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc

HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco


>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw

The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI


<Situationist Archives

https://situationist.org/
https://notbored.org/SI.html
https://bopsecrets.org/SI/index.htm

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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing
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>>2565236
foreign influencers stirring racial resentment share the blame when it inevitably leads to violence. there's no justification for it from any proletarian

>>2565242
>blame
spooky
>when it inevitably leads to violence
there is a genocide already happening

>>2565251
>egoist
libtard detectdd

>>2565242
>when it inevitably leads to violence.
Lol.
Yeah sure.
>there's no justification for it from any proletarian
Waow, so true, so how do you silence it completely?

>>2565260
no clue how it gets better, just confused why cretins want to make it worse. and for profit too lol. starting to believe nobody here really believes in the whole class solidarity thing and instead want to encourage identity politics

You dont get it chuds, that money was supposed to go to Israel via taxation, so if you, a third worlder, scam wignats and other reactoids with racist memes you are literally Hitler and also a libtard. Whats that? NATO bombed your country? LOL who gives a fuck it wasnt real socialism anyways.

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I get 300 replies on /pol/ of seething every time I post this video

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/521701128#top

>>2564993
>>2565268
He isn't scamming right wingers, he is a right winger. He is clearly an upper caste Hindu who hates Muslims and poor people. He's nothing but a small time AIslop porky who is using ad money to directly spread far right views and networks.

>>2565287
thanks you for your service

>>2565017
there are 3 people being genocided as we speak and you're upset at someone being upset at someone being upset at that

>>2565291
>>2564993
Sri Lankans are genocidal subhuman scum.

Question to the guy against scamming right wingers by brown people, sincere or not:
How is it any different than this leading to a thread of grown men circlejerking that they're so much more based for not being step dads to a woman with mixed race children? >>2565287
Same shit, still fueling the fire. What's their excuse when they aren't even being paid?

>>2565015
>debate me bro
The correct way to deal with anybody being dishonest online is to make an exposé video, not get into a livestream where they can bloviate and gish gallop and otherwise deflect.

>>2565268
>if you, a third worlder, scam wignats and other reactoids with racist memes you are literally Hitler and also a libtard
The third-worlder in this case is a brown subcontinental, so yeah he is Hitler by default. Especially if he is Lankan.

>>2564981
>>2564993
The problem isn't that he's "scamming" people it's that he's doing right wing propaganda.

>>2565322
Leftist during nazi germany era made fun of gay people who were high ranked nazis not because they hate gay people but because it infuriated Nazis and embrassed them as goes against their stated values. Same case with these guys talking about trad life and insulting people. Then their ugly closet gets pointed out and they get humiliated. Use their rules against them

>>2565323
Cope.
>>2565324
>Especially if he is Lankan.
QRD?

>>2565329
>Dude its ok to be a transphobe and misgender if they're Nazis!
Notice how no one called Ye a uyghur when he did it. Or Nick a spic.
I think this is wrong but also a different issue altogether.
If they are funneling money away from white people why is it wrong? It is less evil than a closed system of self supporting white supremacy. Simple.

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>>2564935
>>2565003
The Ethiopia-TPLF stuff has been a weird thing. I've read some people knocking the PSL for also getting in on that, but I don't know enough about the conflict.

The Grayzone shilling Joe Kent was pretty sus. He's a former CIA "paramilitary officer" who was running as a Republican in Washington, was defeated twice by Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, then got a job as the director of the NCTC:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Counterterrorism_Center

There was some attempt to shape this guy's image and they were part of it.

How many of you actually have social media accounts?
Twitter, Bluesky, Discord (for talking to people other than irl friends), Fediverse, Twitch, Tumblr, Furaffinity, Secret forums you're a member of but won't let me in on, anything.

I want advice on getting out of imageboards. I'm not a feral retard, I'm not going to call people retarded or be horrible like i'm still on an imageboard (i don't want to be nasty in any way). But I am socially retarded: the only move I know to avoid causing awkwardness or problems is to say nothing and do nothing. I am inarticulate and naturally find it difficult to be honest about being more-or-less a hermit recluse with no idea what I'm doing rather than ordinary poster #261. I don't want to make people uncomfortable or unhappy.
What should I do? How weird is it to interact with low follower count total strangers on twitter and similar sites? Is it socially acceptable to message people out nowhere on something like Discord? How do you find things to talk about in hobby/fandom places when your thoughts are rarely any deeper than "I like thing"? How do you start a conversation without rudely interrupting someone else's with my stupid nonsense? Should I listen to or suppress the background feeling that, just because nobody's talking, that doesn't mean they're interested in whatever stupid bullshit thought I've got (but cannot hold a conversation about)?
How do I warn people that i'm socially retarded and rarely have anything to say, but also non-judgemental and like to listen, in such a way that they're invited to talk to me rather than repulsed by my awkwardness?
Is there anything else I should know?

Really, I'm at a total loss here. I've tried and failed to break out of this prison before. I'm tired of it, I need out. I was good at this when I was a child, but that was long long ago. Once I found imageboards it was all downhill.

>>2565405
Buy an autism speaks shirt, done.

>>2565405
what is your particular motivation for joining social media?
for me, i don't think it is preferable to imageboards for discussions with complete strangers in any way. i would only suggest joining any kind of social media to have a way to stay in contact with people i already know personally, you could make a somewhat empty account with minimum amount of information (or fake info) to not get shadowbanned and provide the handle to people you'd like to stay in touch with after an IRL event

>>2565405
If you are that far behind in your social intelligence then I would say you should let go of the fear of making mistakes, because it will inevitably happen a lot in your case, unless you don‘t try to talk to people which I wouldn‘t recommend. You need a mass exposure of social interactions to learn as quickly as possible and then you self-reflect on how it went. You can also learn from other people‘s interactions. Learn from people who seem to have high social intelligence (you can tell by then having many friends) and also learn from people with low social i intelligence (you can tell from them being rejected a lot).

The truth is that there are no social rules. Whoever tells you there are doesn‘t have high social intelligence. What appears as social rules are just recurring patterns of feelings and responses, but there are moments where people break the script which shows that there are no rules. Be empathetic, try to understand people, don‘t take things too personally when you are still learning and focus more on enjoying yourself. Otherwise you will anxiously second guess yourself all the time. Accept your mistakes. Learn from them AFTER enjoying yourself socializing.

>>2565287
He is just being a good stepfather raising my kids. Why do you have to be so racist?

>>2564981
I respect all grifters who do evil shit for the money and not for genuine political reasons, broke chuds could never, it takes a type of apolitical opportunist grifter to do shit like this.

go get that bag king!

>>2565516
That's most of the bourgeoisie, retard

>>2565405
Your choice of online social interaction isn't going to make you any more normal. everyone online is unhinged. You should try joining a socialist organization and talking to people in real life, you will not have as mean of thoughts. Also, the AI shit is really out of hand and you are way better off with a minimal online footprint, and taking active steps to avoid the amount of data that is collected about you, like using open source software and good practices. Your best bet is to detach yourself from the online spectacle, and only keep in touch with people you trust, maybe stay on a few under the forums or chats.

>>2565517
and I respect them for playing the game, I will respect a capitalist with money over a broke sexless chud any day

>>2565405
The only other places where you really meet online people (in my experience) and actually socialize is on random hobby related discord servers, social media platforms like Twitter and shit are just algos to serve you content at this point. Even then it's hit or miss. You gotta find a good one that matches your interests and personality, where you do that I wouldn't know

As far as how to socialize idk man, gotta just get in there and talk to people. Realize that at the end of the day these people probably don't care as much about your social performance as you do

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What do you guys think of this

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>>2565550
Dalton Eatherly

>>2565516
>>2565527
"playing the game" means they obey the rules like an npc. only people who break the game deserve respect.

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>>2565550
Here he is when he was fat

>>2565566
He's always carrying a gun that's part of why he's so confident. He pulled it out and showed it to guys who got close to him on one video then they backed off

>>2564981
I know chuds are mostly botfarms run by this guy, but then you have an entire generation raised on that nonsense who grow up to become what the bot told them to be, like >>2565550

>>2565576
Yeah I know. He's gonna get what's coming to him, but in the meantime he's just going to keep making the world a shittier place by fucking up the already uneasy race relations in the USA. He calls himself "America First" on twitter but he's clearly trying to destabilize what's left of "America" in preparation of a "race war." What sucks is seeing all the people (or bots) who are exactly like him shouting solidarity to this nonsense and cheering on escalation. I know this country is doomed but I hope those people are in the minority and get slaughtered in the civil war they want so badly.

>>2565569
>"playing the game" means they obey the rules like an npc.
cheating is an essential part of playing the game

>>2565550
I think this is this dude is posting this stuff with his government name attached that you can google if you google his handle chudthebuilder

>>2565550
does he live stream or does he just upload edited clips
because if the former some kino is possible if not likely in his future with how he's acting

Chat let him cook

>>2565601
he seems to upload selectively edited clips, probably to cover up some of the escalation he's doing


>>2565620
this is your brain on idealism


>>2565550
Yeah this /pol/ brainrotted timmy is going to end up getting kirked on his livestream trying to do this to someone that's going to end up also having a gun and is pissed off enough to use it.

>>2565627
I don't know why this dude reminds me of whatifalthist, his brain has the same type of worms inside it

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>>2565631
They were both inspired by this man.

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>>2565405
>I want advice on getting out of imageboards … How do you find things to talk about in hobby/fandom places when your thoughts are rarely any deeper than "I like thing"?
Ask them WHY do they like the thing. "What do you like about [thing]?" Go deeper. Let them tell their story. You can weigh in with your own comments.

>Is there anything else I should know?

People like to talk about themselves. The good news is that you don't have to talk very much if you let them do the talking. That's my strategy anyways. I ask people open-ended questions that are kind of psychological. Once you find something that someone is interested in, you ask them why they're interested, and basically you're trying to figure out what the thing does for them. I try to be a good listener. I like to write but I don't like to talk too much. And I think, to some degree, just be yourself.

Be authentic and spontaneous. Don't act in bad faith. Nobody's perfect. The last conversation I had with somebody was with this older Dutch guy who does home remodeling and was a Dutch air force helicopter pilot in the 1980s. I run into him at the dog park regularly. Eventually I asked him when he moved here, and what was the context. Originally he came to the U.S. for military training, and then I learned he was a helicopter pilot, then I asked what kind of helicopter, which was an Alouette. I know two things about the Alouette is that it's French and can fly really high. And he was like you bet, he used to fly to anti-aircraft NATO missile bases in the Alps. Well he trained with different armies. The Germans. The Americans. So I'd ask him what was it like to train with the Germans, the Americans. What were your impressions of them compared to the Dutch military? He also visited East Berlin during the Cold War with a group of tourists and was tailed by a group of secret police (which was normal).

I try to be like a journalist. Anyhow, the last conversation was all about home construction. How does that compare here to Europe (it's actually relatively fucked up here in America compared to Europe).

I use Bourdain because he was a master of this technique. Like this video is all about Waffle House but this guy is just fascinated by it. His subject does most of the talking but he leaves the conversation thinking "I really like that guy Anthony Bourdain" even though Bourdain didn't have to actually talk that much.

I've also hung out with criminal biker gang guys. Literally some of these guys. I mean I just had neighbors who were these guys and we'd grill. But I don't judge them, I'd be like "hey, let me ask you, you ride with a bunch of guys, right? What does that feel like?" It does something for them, it's comraderie in a pseudo-military sort of way, and it requires a lot of focus. It's pretty dangerous. You don't ask them if they've ever shot anybody or broken the law. You ask them how they feel when they're rolling down the highway with 30 guys. It feels pretty good. You relate with them on that human level.

>>2565640
This guy is the biggest tryhard ever. When on video he artificially deepens his voice and always shows himself smoking cigars and drinking whiskey lmao


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