>>2582777I feel like BE is too "normal" to meet some of the internet crazy people he will inevitably have to, making slop videos. Giving them attention at all is a bad idea. At best, these sorts are earnestly unhinged and unprepared to be thrust out of their crazy cliques into the spotlight. Or they could be pretending and then they feed off the attention and come for more.
Either way, it's a matter of time until someone takes it too far.
>>2583151>but Italian fascism was imperialistic and expansionist and was also far more brutal in its colonies than domestically.yes and so was germany. but for the most part they got cucked out of the scramble for africa. why do you think the first american landing in ww2 was in algeria and morocco? where do the nazis come from in indiana jones?? britian for example did not have this turn inward because they could sufficiently export their contradictions abroad
>>2583151Saying fascism is imperialism (or colonialism) turned inwards doesnt mean it stops being turned "outwards" at the same time.
>>2583151People say it because colonies enforced the target country under the dictatorship an external country's finance capital, and fascism enforces a dictatorship of finance capital without the foreign military.
But the fact that one's controlling big bourgeoisie is necessarily foreign whereas the other's can be domestic would obviously make fascism preferable to foreign colonialism.
>>2583127
They do not find it hot like bdsm. They are suffering under patriarchy.
>>2582913>>2583151I still say calling it fascism was still a retarded choice. Not that the notion of a umbrella term shouldn't exist, just not that one.
I hope Ethan Klein gets what's coming to him.
>>2583168>I still say calling it fascism was still a retarded choice. You focus too much on language maybe.
I hope Ezra Klein gets what's coming to him.
>>2583095the "list of attributes" is also generally the same thing as authoritarianism/totalitarianism and can be equally applied to socialism. which is of course on purpose
>>2583170No. If we didn't call fascism, fascism, we wouldn't have so many "What is fascism" debates, it would be a far better defined umbrella, I don't know who the retarded uyghur who said "OH ᴉuᴉlossnW's group did it first (they didn't) therefore let's call anyone inspired by him at the same time fascist."
I'll travel back in time to kill them before I ever kill baby ᴉuᴉlossnW or Hitler.
Fascism actually refers to something quite specific, you retards just haven't read DIMITROV.
>>2583117what country is this? bangladesh?
>>2582317/isg/ is the crypto-anarchist(illiterate leftcom) echo chamber
>>2583127
>women
those are prepubescent children
>>2583221Based? Based on what?
>>2582807trvke
Hasan seems unfazed
>>2583155>yes and so was germany. but for the most part they got cucked out of the scramble for africa.True. The Italian fascists felt Italy was a second-rate power and wanted a "place in the sun." ᴉuᴉlossnW talked about this a lot. He'd be, like, the Brits and French are hypocrites and it's unfair boo hoo that Italy isn't treated with respect and so to claim "justice" for Italy means conquering Libya/Ethiopia/and so on. So fascism was "revisionist" towards the dominant empires of the day, but it was also imperialist in character.
>>2583158>Saying fascism is imperialism (or colonialism) turned inwards doesnt mean it stops being turned "outwards" at the same time.I'm just saying the slogan version of it ("fascism is imperialism turns inwards") might not emphasize that point. I think the argument really goes that Europeans were fine with slaughtering the non-whites in their colonies and were only then horrified when the Nazis did it in Europe. I think that's true but I don't know if I would define fascism strictly that way, but I don't want to make a big deal out of it.
>>2583165>People say it because colonies enforced the target country under the dictatorship an external country's finance capital, and fascism enforces a dictatorship of finance capital without the foreign military.But wait. I think there's some confusion here. Fascism
doesn't target foreign countries with their military for colonization / imperialism? Is that what people are saying? That can't be right.
As a subsection of all this, a big thing in the fascists' own worldview is the idea (this isn't a Marxist point of view, but the fascists' own self-regard about what they were doing) is that people are decadent and weak and shit and they want to change that so they'll be strong but also disciplined and obedient in a strict hierarchical way, and they believe in building an empire as a way to change people into that idealized form. It's not that great people build empires, "it's building an empire that builds great people." It's an action-oriented ideology. Rico at the end of Starship Troopers is the perfect fascist subject.
>>2583185>Fascism actually refers to something quite specific, you retards just haven't read DIMITROV.Togliatti was the best of the communist theorists of fascism back then I think.
>>2583244>The Italian fascists felt Italy was a second-rate power and wanted a "place in the sun."yeah, but again its less about "feeling" and more about the falling rate of profit. italy had huge international petroleum and steel cartels as well as chemicals fertilizer textiles rubber and mining that were tied up with IG Farben and american corps like GE and Ford. they just got the short end of the deal in the same way germany did and were being and ultimately were successfully subjugated and horizontally integrated into washington/london finance. same for mitsubishi and samsung with japan and korea
>>2583244>("fascism is imperialism turns inwards") might not emphasize that point.yeah i guess so i just think the turn means in addition to not instead of. its not a replacement but an opening up of new avenues of extracting a dwindling margin of surplus value as technology increases. like just because technological improvements decrease the share of profit per unit given to the capitalist and so they expand extraterritorially(imperialism) doesn't mean they stop exploiting workers at home.
>I think the argument really goes that Europeans were fine with slaughtering the non-whites in their colonies and were only then horrified when the Nazis did it in Europeanother way to look at it is that the Nazis did it to other capitalists. until then the state and interstate politics was a forum for settling the disputes of various capitalists and monopolists among eachother. before ww1 it was capitalists v monarchists and mostly limited to fighting over colonies with proxies, the world wars were the first time industrially advanced capitalist states went directly to war with one another, and it was because of the internal contradictions of capitalist development itself leading to consolidation into monopoly and saturation of technological innovation through the whole of the supply chain necessitating extraterritorial expansion, thats the material foundation of lebensraum.
and obviously fascism also intensifies exploitation abroad, not just at home.
>>2583244>Fascism doesn't target foreign countries with their military for colonization / imperialism? Is that what people are saying? That can't be right.They can. But they don't have to. Pinochet didn't invade Bolivia. Austria under the Fatherland Front didn't do anything to Alto Adige/South Tyrol.
Meanwhile bourgeois democratic regimes can also engage if foreign colonialism, for example Britain and France.
Also, often times fascism can raise FROM finance capital from foreign countries. It really depends on which finance capital dominates the country at the time of the fascist coup. So for example Iran's fascism was mostly supported by British finance capital, since that was the main finance capital in Iran. But fascism can POTENTIALLY be of a domestic bourgeoisie as well.
>>2582784>audio cuts outdidn't he say some shit like "have a good one pal"?
>>2582796Where am I, Kiwifarms? Fuck off.
>>2582860Based response honestly. Power to the babyfurs, death to the MTW sexpats
>>2583260>Austria under the Fatherland Front didn't do anything to Alto Adige/South Tyrol.That's correct but (this is splitting hairs a bit) despite them fashing themselves up a bit in terms of aesthetics, they strike me as more of a conservative-authoritarian regime of which there were a lot of them at the time. More like if Hindenburg had managed to set up an authoritarian state in Germany instead of the Nazis. The national socialists tried to overthrow them.
Some trivia but Dolfuss was also really tiny, he was less than 5 feet tall.
>>2582777>bdsm doctorlost my shit fucking lol
>>2583117>>2583172>teaching the younguns modesty early🙏
>>2582785Their fault for being psychos online.
>>2583295Yeah it's a doctored clip to make it seem more awkward
>>2583117Everyone (Yes EVERYONE) does the first one because we (Yes WE) are all NEETS who hate human contact and are afraid but will clown on them for being based.
>>2583169Any luck he'll come down with a spot of the old Kirk Neck.
>>2582811Was it you, anon? Be honest.
>>2583432>we (Yes WE) are all NEETS who hate human contact and are afraidYWNBAL
>>2583177Having too many "What is fascism" debates isnt as much of a problem as actually existing fascism.
ICP says whole capitalist world is fascist now. You can call any government/regime in the world fascist now.
>>2583494they are correct
>>2583494The Italian Communist Party are fascists.
>>2583499this is correct too
>>2583244>a big thing in the fascists' own worldviewFascism doesnt have an unified coherent worldview.
>It's an action-oriented ideology.As people already pointed out, its not an ideology either. This is just part of the liberal mythology about fascism.
You are too obssesed with the subjective/cultural element and keep missing the point.
Do better.
>>2583299What? Do you think that post is transphobic?
>>2583301>>2583514 and
>>2583299 are probably same person. Either troll or massively retarded tourist.
>>2583031based rockhill clipper
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