>>2116014Dude was a literal high ranking insider confirming what a lot of people have been suspecting for months now. And still waiting btw for the answer to "how are they paying for all this" that wasn't answered in the previous ACP threads. (And no a vague statement about "businesses" is not an answer)
Also mr chairman himself confessed in a stream posted itt that the allegations are true (but they didn't go through with it).
>>2116013what about the hatian "paramilitary gang leaders" who fight against state that america supports? are they oligarchs too?
>>2115997 is just a rat and a fed who couldnt take "the abuse" from being undercover.
>"funding hatian gangs"This is explicitly an imperialist narrative to support the hatian state. aligned perfectly with cia
>>2116021anti-imperialist countries fund them. thats a good thing. So they funded revolutionaries? thats a good thing
explain why the state of hati and its poverty should be upheld against the evil gangs
>>2116024explain how the FBI rat twists all of these good things into bad things. Say i am wrong.
Explain why supporting revolution in hati is bad. explaim why being funded by anti-imperialist forces is bad. they abused a rat. so what? they said slur? wow
>>2116028>>2116024>>2116022>>2116014you are so right comrade, please continue funneling guns and money to haitian
death squads lumpenproletariats anti-imperialists. I'm sure the country will soon be liberated and ACP
in jail vindicated.
>>2116022>>2116024>>2116025>>2116028You're very transparent. Jackson Hinkle is himself connected to incoming arch glowies like Tulsi Gabbard.
It's funny how you immediately went from denying it to "actually this is a good thing!"
H*z himself has rallied against unionization efforts, he's weirdly obsessed with attacking the DSA - in ways that I don't even see with the online ultraleft, trot groups, "orthodox" MLs, anarchist chapters, etc. (Something Shaw writes about as well, but was already pointed out here for years)
Listen dimwit, Jimmy Barbecue Cherizier is cool. I was posting about him long before infra dummies even spat across the room.
if you think people being legit revolutionaries or quasi revolutionaries is a reason the feds WONT bang people up in entrapment schemes involved in arms running, you fundamentally misunderstand the feds.
the feds would love nothing more NOTHING MORE than to be able to say "look communist groups are sending arms to haiti, this definitely means we need more kenyan troops in Haiti and UN peacekeeping forces and the IDF as well" you really really don't understand how this works.
Now, fundamentally also, if you are the type of person, to get sucked into quote un quote gun running quote un quote via people you met on twitter most likely, entirely online, entirely tracked communications, the whole of your relationship being this way, you are
so
so
so unserious its insane.
You are stupid as all fuck. What danny shaw says about you being mentally deranged is undoubtedly true. You have to be completely delusional to even think this is a good idea, for you, for haitians, for american communism tm
if you can't see that yourself, my brother, all of the above applies to you. You are not a smooth criminal, you are some drill rapper who goes to jail forever for rapping about shanking some bro on easby street at 9pm sat 11/4 on an e scooter. You are dumb, you are silly
>>2116029you are doing the thing where you make zero points and respond with anime picture. i would change mind quickly if you explain how these things are bad. I will stop spamming but I want to know why you literally support cia narrative of evil gangs fighting le rightous comprador hatian state
>>2116033So those hatians vying to overthrow the hatian cia funded government are actually just cia funded death squads? They arent poor people fighting against squalid condition? smells of CIA narrative.
>>2116036I never denied anything. I asked for proof and you referred me to fbi agent's reddit post.
I did good faith thing and assumed it all true, but that makes you look worse.
>H*z himself has rallied against unionization efforts, he's weirdly obsessed with attacking the DSA - in ways that I don't even see with the online ultraleft, trot groups, "orthodox" MLs, anarchist chapters, etc. (Something Shaw writes about as well, but was already pointed out here for years)so its bad that acp shits on dsa harder than trotskyites? WTF is wrong with your brain?
>>2116021.(And no a vague statement about "businesses" is not an answer)
That ex-member @breekb_ deleted her account but she had a long-winded thread today getting more things off her chest. But in a nutshell she said there are no businesses, they don't exist (obviously, these people have no experience doing that), and the rank-and-file members pay for everything themselves, and that the leadership are e-grifters (which is nothing we didn't already know), and that Haz didn't actually like her raising money to do some charity work in the aftermath of that hurricane because it would take away from other stuff (?) they could (theoretically?) do, but she was immediately promoted to the rank of "Hero of the Party," whatever that is. I don't think they've come up with an Order of Haz yet. Reading that and Shaw, organizationally the ACP looks totally improvisational, and the rank-and-file members are not given any directions but are kept busy doing charity work, and the only time they hear from the leadership is when they do something they don't like. But as long as they keep promoting the leaders on the internet, they're gravy.
Being loose and improvisational is one thing, but there's interesting contradiction in an authoritarian cult like this and the people who are attracted to it. Because they want to be told what to do. They're not anarchists who are more comfortable with being loosey-goosey. But they can't have any say in what the leadership does either, so they're kept isolated in these little clubs scattered around with no real directives or plan or anything.
>>2116038The whole "you're a pussy/faggot/etc." stuff is also useful for getting weak and insecure guys to do things they shouldn't do. Cops pull that trick in interrogations to get men to confess all the time, or become informants. Like "I'm a cop, that makes me a real man, and you're a bitch sitting there in your chair, so why don't you work for us."
>>2116048>Being loose and improvisational is one thing, but there's interesting contradiction in an authoritarian cult like this and the people who are attracted to it. Because they want to be told what to do. They're not anarchists who are more comfortable with being loosey-goosey. But they can't have any say in what the leadership does either, so they're kept isolated in these little clubs scattered around with no real directives or plan or anything.whats most amusing/ depressing is that this is basically the organisational structure of every single western communist party, and its the main obstacle that needs overcome.
in the end, they were just another trot sect
>>2116052You realize the reddit post that you take as fact is from a literal fbi informant right?
>oligarchs>migrant gangs>questioned by FBIhe is clearly a rat. stop avatar posting and engage with fact
>>2116071the CIA has supplied weapons to both sides of numerous conflicts, the Iran Iraq war, for example. The war in Iraq, for example, the war in Syria, for example, the war in Afghanistan, for example.
You simply do not know enough.
>>2116055>Lumpen gangsYour words. Besides, there's communists in Haiti too, why wasn't the ACP talking about funding and arming them instead?
Here's a history lesson btw; the other anon mentioned how feds try to get groups on the hook for arms trafficking. Something similar happened in 1981 when white supremacists were enticed to attempt a coup in Dominica. Among them Don Black, a member of the KKK and connected to David Duke who later co-founded Stormfront. Stormfront itself has long been suspected of being a fed honeypot in rightoid circles.
Like who even came up with this idea? Why should the ACP get involved with this at all, especially in such an amateurish manner? Shaw also mentioned one meeting where Hinkle joined, but never turned on his camera, nor said anything. Don't you think this is slightly suspicious?
>>2116071The chaos in Haiti keeps the country in a state of dependency. This has been the playbook for over 200 years.
>>2115966>you trust me more than anything>Implying there we was no communist before the ACP<utterly demolishes former members denies they did anything useful (so why did you appoint them?)Typical narc behavior. He also sounds
very shaken
>>2116087>>2116089I did some peeking and I think it's a different guy.
>>2116077That's cliche Maoist talk. This kind of thing has less to do with "line" but with the social base of these parties, or rather, the lack of one. I don't think so many CPUSA members jumped ship though. It's something Haz and his clingers say to promote themselves on the internet.
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