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CORE THEORY >The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord📖 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ
<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin📖 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA
>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer📓 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY
<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-0.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE
>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs
<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault📖 •
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko
>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard 📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-1.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs
<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M
>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-2.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4
<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze 📖 •
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY
>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-3.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4k26xGx1zI
<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida📖 •
https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q
>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI—————————————————–
SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL
>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory📖 •
Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of
Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm📺 •
Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30📖 •
Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of
History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm📺 •
Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI 📖 •
Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of
Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm📺 •
Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo📖 •
Louis Althusser -
Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm📺 •
Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw
<Documentaries•
The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA•
Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I•
The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and
The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc•
HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco
>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)•
We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y•
Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg•
The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs•
Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw•
The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI
<Situationist Archives•
https://situationist.org/•
https://notbored.org/SI.html•
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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS•
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/•
Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys•
Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing>>2866593The politics of the film are irrelevant to the terrible production value.
It is cheaply made and badly acted.
>>2866593Just reactionaries desperately trying to become culturally relevant. No matter how political powerful they become nobody will give a shit about their insane slop they shit out and call art.
>>2866471>you would probably beat him up irl if you met him irl. I mean I think any normal person could be an online leftist
>>2866593the epitome of what ultra right wing arts can produce.
libs are right wingers alright, but they are at least creative here and there, now and then, even when doing propaganda for the establishment or against the enemies of the establishment.
but the disgraceful ultra right wing shitheads can't grasp the concept of effective propaganda disguised as thrill action movies without doing an asinine rant.
I would only recommend you to watch the movie if you are doing an essay in your sociology studies (Title:
The mediocrity of radical ideologies expressed in arts) or even medical studies (Title:
Brain damage and the evidence expressed in arts) only, otherwise skip.
>>2866634a wealthy diaspora who studied in University who will never help his race in any meaningful way but will have slight power over self hating white liberals
>>2865757Don't worry, I'm online enough to explain. This is literally just an extension of the FD Signifier drama. Multiple minor black content creators have made videos attacking him for saying that israel is a jewish supremacist state and not a white supremacist state. Americans can't comprehend that not everything revolves around race, and because badempanada is addicted to the internet he's been dragging this on for way too long.
>>2866607>>2866598>>2866593>>2866636I follow and mutual with a few Fascists, they raised some very good points about how this film completely fails to address the issue of migration. the issue is presented almost as a matter of personal responsibility rather than a failure of government policy. There is even a scene where the protagonist (a landlord) evicts all his older white tenants and replaces them with a diverse group of Americans. Neither neoconservatives nor leftists tackle the migration problem. the former have no policy, while the latter pretend the problems do not exist, when real socialists from the MENA nations will tell you they exist.
If your community or political unit falls apart due to migration, which has been a regular, unbroken human activity older than agriculture itself you have to look in the mirror and see how shitty and fragile your models are
>>2866660I'm from Pakistan dumbass, Afghan migration has been a disaster here, same in Turkey and other nations, unchoked mass migration causes problems you retard
>>2866665Then become nomadic and stop being a cucked settleoid
>WAAAH THEY’RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS I CAN’T STAND IT WAAAAH >>2866648The cartoonish unlikeability and hypocrosy of the protagonist laid the ground to make the film satirical - but the director is just a retard. The protagonist is literally an illegal immigrant himself who kills innocent people (in a scene near the end of the film).
>>2866671its a neil breen tier shitfist, my favorite scene was when the autist loses his shit at those kids on the bus, pretty much the only scene that likely has any truth too it (the writer however just seethed silently irl)
>>2866634Not watching a video of anyone who looks like that
>>2866683i think he looks nice
>>2866711What's wrong with erect nipples?
>>2862206>>2862993For anyone interested
https://youtubetotranscript.com/transcript?v=3p8cfGe4vo4>Marx was straight up a Muslim. I'm an Islamo-Marxist. I I You know what an Islamo-Marxist is? I want to tell you because a lot of people don't understand this thing about Marxism being equal to Islam.Marxism is very simple to me, actually.
>Marxism is very simple to me. Marxism equals Islam. I'm not going to I'm not going to get into the nitty-gritty, the substitute for what my article is going to be and how it's going to how specifically I'm going to argue this cuz I want it to be a surprise cuz it's actually unique and nobody's ever [ __ ] done it before.>But, you know, in any case, look, Karl Marx, I'm going to tell you the truth about Karl Marx. Karl Marx just took all of European philosophy. He took all of European philosophy and he basically said that [ ] is coping, useless nonsense. All we need are Turks with scimitars and swords to gallop their way into the world and just [ ] bum rush that [ ] That was basically what Marx was saying. Marx was basically saying, I [ ] you not. I mean, it sounds stupid in your head, but I'm telling you it's the truth. Marx Okay, the truth is Marx rejected a specifically European fixation on the need for mediation.>That's the truth. Marx insisted upon a specific comprehension of what a material object is.When I say material object, I'm referring to the central subject of Marx's revolutionary project, which is simultaneously a type of being, a material being.
>What is the material materiality? Like, what is that? What is the actual real thing as opposed to the abstractions of thought and the abstractions of ideality and so on and so on? Yes, Marx has adialectical understanding of the material real and material being.
>But, he has an understanding of material being that is already intrinsically lawful, dialectical, and in some sense rational. And so Marx, his entire gesture in contradiction to the entire history of European philosophy and idealism is that the highest gesture of thought and of philosophy and of thinking in general, the thinking consciousness, and also the highest practical act is to give way to material necessity. Give way to something that already basically exists, right? That already is basically there. That already has the force, the momentum the quality of self-relating recursivity.>But is something that is being, you know, that that that that's there in the real already, right? Tautologically in a sense.Marx Marx's Marx's maxim is submit.
>Give way. Give way and submit. Stop [ ] coping. Stop building all these [ ] castles of the I the ideal in your [ ] head. Stop [ ] coping about this arbitrarily contrived gatekeeping need for a mediation that doesn't need to be there. Just surrender and submit. Submit and surr- Submit in Islam I'll get into the etymology in the writing and stuff, what it actually means. Just surrender to the truth. Just accept the truth. The truth in a sense is obvious. Just surrender to it.Surrender to reality.
>Right? It's so simple. I'm not going to elaborate.>But more or less, that's all Islam is.>That's all it is. And Marx was a Muslim.>He was a Muslim.>Stop this coping. Stop I mean people are going to not understand what I'm saying.>They're going to say, "Oh, it's you're just talking about being a [ __ ] brute." Well, no. I'm just saying that Marx Marx is a monotheist.>Marx comprehends a radical simplicity of what man is materially.>And however brilliant man is, however complex and brilliant and dialectical, it is still radically simple.>It's all rooted in good faith.>It's all rooted in good faith. Now, there's a lot of glasses-wearing Marxoids, and there's a lot of Muslims that are not going to like what they read when I do release it.>But it will all make sense. Don't worry.>But uh how do I how do I like sum this up in a way that I can do on stream?>Right? How do I do this in a way that I can on stream?>Sounds more Jewish to me. Uh no, it's not because you're just confusing that with Jewish fatalism, and it's not what I'm trying to say.>No, it's not Jewish at all.>Actually, if you read The Jewish Question, Marx straight-up just says he's a Muslim without even knowing what Islam is. >I can literally tell you why.>But I don't I don't need sensitive people to get upset by it, okay? Cuz I'm just going to tell you what Marx thought, all right?>Marx in The Jewish Question basically said that in Western civilization, our sensibilities and our relationship to the material world was just based in Judaism and Jewish metaphysics, right?>And that Judaism was the ultimate alienating existential condition in a way, right? Like materially speaking, you know, >Judaism posits a very alienated form of humanity which doesn't hold humanity in in in much high esteem.>And um you know, the materialism of the world, so to speak, is Jewish to Marx. Like the materialism of capitalism and all that kind of stuff, right? What does any of this have to do with class struggle, capital, etc.? What the fuck is he on about?
<[snorts]Lmao
>Religious practices also make sense to me and rituals. I see the meaning behind them. They make sense to me.
>But if I'm being honest, people who have a distinction between the sacred and the secular are already in Reddit if you have that distinction.
>Now, if you're trying to deny the sacred and only assert the secular, you're a [ ] disgusting [ ] animal and I hate you.
How did this guy go from Rafiq to this?
>>2866725Don't know, don't care. We should reinstate the Haz ban. Don't really care to know whatever new schizo flavor of the month he's doing.
>Russian flag>KatanaLol this guy is literally Steven Seagall. How do these people never feel embarrassed?
>>2866731>How do these people never feel embarrassed?Pathological narcissism
>>2866634>thirty six god damn minutes to say so little>idpol is actually important bcuz…>there's some racial component to certain jobs (supposedly)What, like basketball players? Rappers?
>cleaning ladies are mostly coloredCleaning ladies are mostly foreigners and/or economically disadvantaged, what's color got to do with it?
>yeah but their racial category is part of why they're exploitedNo, it's because they're foreigners most of the time. You're an uneducated and economically disadvantaged foreigner? Then go do a shit job the rich kids don't want to do.
>yeah, well, most people who work in restaurants tend to be Mexicans!!!>…who also happen to be foreigners! WHAT A COINCIDENCEBro is RIGHT THERE, right at the precipice of seeing how idpol-brained he is, only to laser focus on race at the last second.
>being an artist who takes commissions is racialized…>…because you might happen to have a family member who gets attacked by racists, who you then have to support with the earnings from your jobYou wouldn't have to do that if people just didn't give a shit about race. Make it a non-issue, and those racially charged assaults stop happening.
Does race matter? Only in a world of racial designations. Do we live in a word in which racial designations exist? Yeah, but that is made up by people who WANT to make those designations. We don't have to have them, we don't have to listen to them. Want to know how to eradicate racism? STOP CARING ABOUT IT. STOP SEEING DIFFERENCES BASED ON SUPERFICIAL GENETIC TRAITS. It's like God; He only exists if you believe in him.
>yeah but you can't say that colored people are targeted for hate crimes on the basis of their superficial genetic traits!!!I'm not saying that race doesn't exist, I just said that it exists; What I am saying is that, if you want to end racism, you have to figure out a way to get EVERYONE to stop giving a shit about stupid racial designations, because they're not that important.
Also, race isn't culture, either. Culture is built upon customs which can sometimes have something to do with your people's unique genetics, but usually don't. Eating natto as a White or Black dude is just as culturally relevant as when a Japanese person does it, unless you mean to tell me that only some subset of genetically Yamato Japanese can digest it or whatever, which is just some horseshit.
>if everyone thought like you, then those specific superficial genetic traits that I find aesthetically appealing would be eradicated!!!That's horseshit, because those genetic traits are a byproduct of the environment in which certain peoples lived, for one, and for two, if you think one set of genetic traits is more aesthetically pleasing than another it just shows that you're probably as bad as the racists who you'd attribute some authoritarian supremacist mindset. All peoples, all genetic traits, are beautiful. Every race also has ugly motherfuckers, it's just some people have better proportions and a better lifestyle than others.
Every motherfucker out here think they're special snowflake enough to get in front of a mic and camera and spew their filth, innit.
>>2866738>being an artist who takes commissions is racialized…>…because you might happen to have a family member who gets attacked by racists, who you then have to support with the earnings from your jobLMAO, what does that have to do with anything? And how is it relevant to anything? What percentage work as professional smut commission artists? Like .00001%? Also that would be the least racialized job since most of them don't post pictures of themselves so their clients don't even know what race they are.
>>2866737Honestly it seems like lack of shame is a powerful attribute in the modern world. It's a skill that some have and some don't. Personally I mostly don't, but laughing at them just seems sort of pathetic, they're good at something that I'm not.
>>2865764>African-Americans often suffer from the same racial spooks and American exceptionalism as their white counter parts.i think this argentina discourse is so fucking embarrassing and ahistorical and i can't believe illiterate black wokescolds are forcing me to side with that fucking schizo again
I wish i was Haz Al Dunya smoking a big cigar in my Yacht
>>2866750you want that big cigar in your mouth, dont you?
>>2866744Trump has proven it half the shit he says and does would've gotten anyone else canceled, but with him it is immediately forgotten and never mentioned again because trying to shame him with it had no effect.
>>2866753No i just want cool millionaire life like Haz Al Dunya or death and all his friends.
>>2866761and the big cigar would be a plus, i imagine
The printing press is a fad. No one likes that soulless slop, artisanal hand written manuscripts are way more authentic
>>2866759That's in large part because he's rich and influential, but yes, in large part you can't actually be cancelled without your consent. Just look at Hasan, he absolutely electroshocked his dog and doesn't even seem damaged by it because he just denied everything and refused to acknowledge it. I mean he's also rich and influential so success may vary lol, but still
>>2866774>That's in large part because he's rich and influential, but yes, in large part you can't actually be cancelled without your consent. Yeah like if you apologize and do that song and dance, it's over. If they were able to successfully shame you with it once, they can successfully shame you with it in perpetuity. Caving doesn't help you at all. If trying to shame you with it garners zero reaction, they'll give up on that point of attack and look for new ones.
>>2866778It's the same principle that applies to mocking people for anything as well. If they mock you for being, short, fat, bald, whatever, and you show that it affected you, now they know they have a permanent point of attack, if you seem truly unbothered by it, it lessens the appeal of that point of attack.
>>2866593Uwe Boll's movies sucked before he was political, and they still suck, just search his name on a search engine and exclude recent reuslts, he is pretty consistently called "the worst director in film history"
https://search.brave.com/search?q=Uwe+Boll&source=web&tf=to2020-01-01 >>2866803It might surprise you that moralists from both the far right and the far left, despite their differences of opinion on certain matters get along fine, precisely because we have no patience for provocative eccentrics.
>>2866648>while the latter pretend the problems do not existsaid a true chud.
>>2866725>Religious practices also make sense to me and rituals. I see the meaning behind them. They make sense to me.Funny to me that Haz and ACP guys tought they were doing the Old Left but just became another group of New Left spiritualists who suck on the Dalai Lama's toes or hippies who thought psychedelic experiences would change the world.
Anyways the reason religion plays a larger role in poor countries is because people don't see much possibility for their lives getting better without exploiting other people through crime and violence and scams. Anyways, what can you do? You convince people that if you drive around on a motorbike sticking a gun in people's face then they will go to Hell. So it does make sense to be religious in a certain sense to maintain some stability and reduce violence because there's an element of religion about loving your neighbor. But this has a dual character because the leaders of religious congregations and politicians who preach a religious morality are invariably charlatans who take advantage of the poor while telling them to seek comfort in the afterlife rather than trying to really change anything.
People also become more interested in rituals as a last-ditch desperate thing. Like when nothing seems to be working then they form some cult which they think will transform people in a way that will make them capable of doing new things rather than that being a symptom of the whole structure they're working within is about to collapse.
>>2866817>People also become more interested in rituals as a last-ditch desperate thing1920s all over again. cant wait to see what horrors the 2030s produces
>>2866811Question, how often to you "dunk on libs/chuds/whatever" with gay porn jokes?
>>2866817that's not how religion flourishes.
it's not 'allowed on' or 'encouraged on' or used to 'convince' people.
it's the differences in access to education. poor countries have less access to different media that otherwise would expand their understanding of the universe, sciences and human life like tends to happen in in rich countries.
that, and because it became too obsessive the figure of money in the neoliberal landscape. it replaced god as the
mythos of society. the underlying god behind the
American Dream is money, so this mythos has gradually also becoming those societies'
ethos. and if money is the west's mythos and ethos, what purpose does god have?
>>2866822come on, tell me that it isn't funny
>>2866835zigger internationalism…
are they getting cucktinbux?
The Situation Continues To Be Crazy
>>2866809>far right/far left>not provocative eccentricsHave you considered they get along because they suffer the same psychosexual pathologies? Lol
>>2866835why is the white arrow attacking the red? says it all about this supposed 'organisation'
>>2866887Nah he's trolling
>>2866887probably has a nice cushy email job form Straya.
>>2866887more realistic estimates is around $350k minimum give or take more or less probably
>>2866900I really hate how rich fucking youtubers are, really just awful
>>2866920>>2866861top 10 funniest memes, that will make you the funniest guy in the ChapoTrapHouse subreddit
>>2866861You can be aware of the rot of cataplasm without behaving like a freak, revolutionary I know.
>>2866942they were banned in 2019 and for all their faults they were only one of the normie subreddits at the time openly discussing sanctions, embargoes, CIA coups, etc in a way that was actually accessible to normies
>4chan/sp/ pretending the World Cup is a race war and spamming the board with BBC, blacked, buck breaking "memes" after every single match
Why are right-wingers so fucking pathetic and miserable. Seriously how does one's life come to this point.
>>2866970Ask what happened to the Selkʼnam.
>>2866971That site is full of bots and mossad employees
>>2866970>Go get in there and finish him Houdini.he is too scared to do it
>>2866971These people were so butthurt by BBC porn they made up a fake porn tag called "BWC/Bleached", except nobody actually watches that shit (because most porn is by white actors and normal people don't actively look for this stuff) so it's basically just a white supremacist circlejerk.
The intersection of right-wing politics and inceldom is the most cringeworthy shit on Earth.
>>2866982tbf I think some recent mass shooter was Guatemalan who literally posted in BWC fetish subreddit and talked about how much he wanted to be fucked white dudes.
>>2866986one could argue that Indians, black people and Asians will have a fetish for white people, but that latinos truly worship them, they want to become them.
>>2867048These two jewtubers make dogshit content
>hasan>tells people to vote democrat>is a Epsteiniteslave<BE<bitches about amerikkkans being evil against brown people all day<nothing elseboth need to ACK!!!!! or something so that some actually good content can fill the void, although to be fair that's actually not going to happen because the core audiences of both will remain and continue to post the same contrived coal forever and ever, which sucks because its like they're permanently stuck in the same slop polemics everyone was throwing around on the edge of 2020, just ack these transhumanists geeeeeeeeeeeeeg
>>2867067I don't know nothing about those two but based on your summary BE sounds pretty based
>>2867067>Hassan>Is wrong and a zogslave
>BE >Is correct and based
<You <"Both of these are bad!!"Just stop watching leftslop content bro, there's never going to be good leftslop content
I got banned from reddit again because Iade the extremely offensive joke of landlords jumping in volcanoes lmao
I know no one gives a shit, but what is that website even for? It's just pure bots and psyops
>>2867116It's all so fucking boooooooriiiiing everything is just resumes and linkedinspeak
>>2867116Yeah I haven't used that shithole in years. The downvote system is pure cancer. I haven't used it in many years, but the fucking Zios brigade like crazy. Forget the mods, you couldn't post anything short of praising Israel without getting downvoted until your comment is hidden. Also those faggots just downvote for absolutely no reason even in non-controversial subs. It's just a place for the most insufferable people in the world to be insufferable with the least amount of effort possible. At least twitter they'd have to reply to your or report you.
>>2867119tbh the only reason I look at any of these sites is because I'm dying of boredom at work, if I wasn't forced to do this shitjob I would hardly look at a browser anymore, it all sucks
>>2867103God I hate that destiny colon diver Lonerbox so much dude, even just seeing his image infuses me with disgust and rage
As a sidenote, ever noticed how these orbiters almost always adopt the mannerisms and cadence of their overlord? I cannot hear that guy without hearing Destiny's voice speaking through them, it's crazy. It's a really annoying way of talking too
>Don't you think that's important to the revolution and stopping the Amerikkkan Platnerite empire?The problem is there's nothing else to watch, everything is descending into unadulterated slop either way
>>2867116I just use it to post art sometimes, there's some interesting niche communities on there. But the userbase is really bad, like a particular kind of liberal, knowitall, autism that I really really despise. And yeah it's also filled to the brim with ziorats. I got banned from a major news sub years ago for asking someone how it felt to justify the extrajudicial execution of a palestian in the street
>>2867188It's heckin bizzaro world in England! It's completely reversed!
>>2867188why do the guys look exactly alike except skin color
>>2867195Same dad, different moms.
>>2867116>>2867119>>2867143My Reddit account got banned for antisemitism and I was posting about why antisemitism is bad. It was an auto-ban the moment I submitted the post so it must have triggered whatever AI they're using. The ZioGPT.
It's mostly only useful for hobby-type stuff. They've utterly killed any kind of politics there and the only marginally useful sub I've found for that now is one called YAPms which is a bunch of poll-headed zoomers who treat elections like football. Reddit just wants people to updoot their favorite Marvel trash movies while avoiding anything abrasive or negative in an artificial consumer-friendly system. It's everything 4chan said it was.
>>2867241if i'm learning about a revolution through youtube it's probably a CIA glowop… that's what my instincts tell me at least
>>2867243It’s Trots so it’s 100% a NATO/Open Society backed color revolution
Not sure what's going on in Kashmir, probably going to stay out of it because I'm on the other side of the world, but I haven't experienced an armed home invasion either which is how a lot of people there appear to interpret living in the midst of 300,000 Indian troops.
>>2867243>colour revolutionPakistan and India are both allies of the west, makes no sense to destablize them, evenmore so with the tailban
>>2867116>>2867119They will downvote you until your post is hidden just because you challenged them. Like it could be a high quality polite post which they don't even disagree with, but it will be downvoted because it made them think too hard about the topic. I have too low karma to post in most servers and in the ones I do, my posts are instantly deleted by AI moderators. This transfers over to other accounts I make. It's easily the worst designed social media site on the internet, even if it is the first place you look for information that isn't AI.
>>2867241I hope they succeed, but their trot ideology will lead to their downfall in those conditions.
>>2867241>>2867243>>2867273I'm from the region and I can offer some insight. One issue with discussions about Kashmir is that many of the dominant narratives come from diaspora academics, who try to frame the conflict through a post-colonial lens. that framework doesn't work.
The Kashmir conflict has been shaped by religion since its inception. Pakistan's military long justified its role by claiming it would eventually "liberate" Kashmir. Nearly 70 years later that objective has not been achieved, and the idea of taking the Indian-administered part of Kashmir is dead now.
At the same time, many Kashmiris have become less focused on religion and more focused on ethnic nationalism. Arguing that the Pakistani government failed to deliver on its promises and instead used Kashmiris as instruments for its broader strategic goals rather than prioritizing their interests. There have also been high-profile rape cases involving Pakistani soldiers that received significant attention and got a lot of people mad.
>>2867241Good. The ethnic cleansing India is doing needs to stop
Been on a bit of a Gnosticism binge and there’s a funny trend on YouTube where, if you look up “Gnosticism” you’ll get a lot of Catholic YouTubers—generally on the “right wing” of Catholicism—throwing Gnostic accusations around like candy. Ditto for article writers. You’ll get videos titled like
>The hidden Gnosticism of Protestantism
>Gender ideology: a modern Gnostic heresy
>Gnosticism: The Enduring Heresy
And with respect to some of them, it seems like they’re stretching the definition of Gnosticism. Maybe the most egregious was Bishop Barron, an otherwise well-read man, claiming that there are “elements of Gnosticism in Marxism” and this (as well as perhaps the “transgenderism is Gnosticism” claim) kind of flies in the face of both Gnosticism and Marxism.
I’m not gonna go into the weeds of what Gnosticism historically was, but the irony of comparing Marxism to Gnosticism is that one of the Catholic Church’s chief disputes with Gnosticism was on the nature of matter. While the extreme ends of Gnosticism viewed matter as “evil” and its more moderate tendencies saw the material world as fundamentally flawed, the Catholic/Proto-Orthodox argument was that the material world was part of God’s creation and thus good. What we see as the evils and flaws of the world are the result of mankind’s original sin.
What’s funny is that this argument, or a shade of it, kind of reoccurs in Marx. While he wasn’t that harsh against the luddites, the crux of his argument was that it’s not the machines that are evil, it’s not progress or development that’s bad, it’s the system that these things exist in—a system ultimately subject to man.
Bishop Barron’s argument was basically Marxism kind of recreates this “Gnostic worldview” of secret forces controlling the world and that with Gnosis or class consciousness you can learn how these forces work and defeat them. But fundamentally where Gnosticism differs from Marxism is, arguably, Marxism ultimately aims at progress within the material world, rather than “escape” from it. It’s kind of a similar situation with Transgenderism. Neither of these beliefs are about escaping matter, and in the case of Marxism it tends to reject that there’s anything beyond matter. Rather they want to shape the material world in accordance with their wishes—Marxism on a global scale, Transgenderism on the individual level.
Though the question of bodies and the material world kind of goes into some odd directions. If transgendered people want to shift their bodies to a more idealized form, what makes that less acceptable than body builders? Humans have spent millennia morphing their bodies in defiance of nature; hell the Catholic Church used to employ castration to keep choir boys’ voices from going through puberty. So if it was acceptable to go through that effort to keep people singing at a certain tone, I don’t understand why it would be “Gnosticism” for someone to do that because they want to be a woman.
>>2867350god hes so based. dude needs some time in the sun tho
>>2867350Kill all Dengoid s
>>2867350ultras stay seething
>>2867358The gnosticism hysteria can be directly attributed to James Lindsay, whose theory of everything revolves around wokeness being a gnostic sect which spans for thousands of years. To him, Hegel was a gnostic and Marxism follows from it.
>Neither of these beliefs are about escaping matter, and in the case of Marxism it tends to reject that there’s anything beyond matter. Rather they want to shape the material world in accordance with their wishes—Marxism on a global scale, Transgenderism on the individual level.This all begins with Plato, who in Phaedo describes all evil coming from the desires of the flesh, and saw that salvation is about entering into immediacy with things in themselves by philosophy; e.g. the "practice" of death, by asceticism. On the transsexual question, its archetypal spirituality is sufficieny described here:
>>2865014>>2865016For Marxism, the theology is basically Christian, that the fall of man leads to the "curse of Adam" (e.g. labour) and eschatology means realising heaven on earth. Marx even comments on its circularity:
<'the new system' to which modern society is tending ‘will be a revival, in a superior form, of an archaic social typehttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/zasulich/draft-1.htmSo, Eden is primitive communism (tree of knowledge; gnosis), which leads to [modern] communism (tree of life). This is Christianity.
>>2867350>He's not a Marxist anymore>he posts with a Gonzaloist flagYou're one to talk? Shut the fuck up.
>>2867578China still isn’t returning to maoism
>>2867576You call this a source? Kill yourself or cite source properly.
>>2867576screenshot of unsourced xeet of video in chinese
one might say of this: big if true. yes indeed.
>>2867576Ask yourself why a porkie's sport that wastes the people's water existed in "communist" Chynah for years in the first place
>>2867480>>2867369I think Bishop Barron seems to be referencing a theologian by the name of Cyril O'Regan at Notre Dame University.
That said, he seems to describe Marxism in conspiratorial terms, or rather claiming they've got a "conspiratorial" worldview that ties into Marxism. He references base and superstructure, too.
>>2867582>>2867585Coping golfoid, kek
>>2867621<twitter addict retardWhy not just say 'okay, my bad' and provide a fucking source for what you say?
Or, are you making things up?
>>2867579>China still isn’t returning to maoismDoes anyone actually believe that? Even the communists in China aren't Maoists. Bukharin is a much bigger influence.
>>2867638There’s people deluded enough to believe there is a maoist faction in the cpc and that Bo Xilai was a part of that faction LMAO
>>2867639From what I've seen on Chinese social media, Mao is celebrated more as a military leader than as a Marxist theorist. Cheng Enfu is probably the highest-ranking communist in Chinese politics and he's closer to an orthodox Marxist than a Maoist.
>>2867642xi has a law degree in marxist theory
>>2867638>Citation: shitpost on 4chan/pol/The communists are in prison or dead.
>Hainan Free Trade Port: A key gateway for China's opening-up in the new era [CGTN]https://youtu.be/KOXyvy7n-D0Can't wait for Shanghai SEZ in 2050 and Beijing in 2076. Fully opened up, democratic, harmonious, peaceful, human and most importantly: buzzword.
>>2867626I'm not going to spoonfed you, golfoid
>>2867662Obsessed golfcuck
>>2867672They're the People's billionaires, you stupid ultra baizuo
>>2867676SEEEEEEEEEEEEETHE
>>2867574When did Gonzalo say he isn't a Marxist? Well, Cockshot is pretty much saying he isn't one in these videos.
>>2867718https://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/best-golf-courses.htm>China's Best Golf Courses>All created in Reform and Libbing Up period>All in mainland China>All designed by dudes with bougie Germanic namesThoughts?
>>2867747Golf fields are productive forces and socialists, stupid fucking ultroid
>>2867750>>2867350in no place or whatsoever he says he's not Marxist.I put this text above 👆 in Red so people can see that moron is lying.
tagging those who failed by the b8:
>>2867379>>2867434>>2867470>>2867574 China is imperialist
>>2867888Good, submit before your Han masters
>>2867874Let me guess: he's actually not and this headline is crafted to imply something very different from what he actually believes
It was Engels who wrote that positive science has overtaken philosophy in the search for Truth (1886):
<As soon as we have once realized — and in the long run no one has helped us to realize it more than Hegel himself — that the task of philosophy thus stated means nothing but the task that a single philosopher should accomplish that which can only be accomplished by the entire human race in its progressive development — as soon as we realize that, there is an end to all philosophy in the hitherto accepted sense of the word. One leaves alone “absolute truth”, which is unattainable along this path or by any single individual; instead, one pursues attainable relative truths along the path of the positive sciences, and the summation of their results by means of dialectical thinking. At any rate, with Hegel philosophy comes to an end; on the one hand, because in his system he summed up its whole development in the most splendid fashion; and on the other hand, because, even though unconsciously, he showed us the way out of the labyrinth of systems to real positive knowledge of the world.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/ludwig-feuerbach/ch01.htmNonetheless, a "philosophy of science" is irresistable. I was just watching this video and it made me think that philosophy struggles with the notion of instinct, since it places inherent ideas in man, such as a fear of heights. This is knowledge, but it was never taught - and so memory is not stored in nervous systems, but genes. The theory of a disembodied mind comes to fruition, where experience (as sensous immediacy) is unconditional of life (the same way that Feuerbach describes sensuousness being universal of love). I think that science can be empirical, but can it really exist without theory?
>>2867916by the time a baby can crawl, there's a shitton of learning and socialization already happening
I want a cleaner experiment
besides, I don't think "instinct" and "knowledge" are categorically different phenomena, instinct can be overwritten by training (those freaks who jump on skyscrapers), knowledge can be reinforced into automatic responses (sports)
what's more interesting is what this implies for the gradation between human and animal
if there's no hard cutoff, then it stands to reason animals "think" and "experience" the same way humans do, fundamentally
acting in the world appears to inherently require the world to be "mirrored", "apprehended" internally, ie "thought"
>>2867958>by the time a baby can crawl, there's a shitton of learning and socialization already happeningNo one teaches a baby to be afraid of heights, the same way nobody teaches a baby to suck on its thumb or on a breast, yet this inherent knowledge is present in them, and without it, they could not survive. It's the same way nobody teaches a bee how to fly - it is simply known.
>instinct can be overwritten by trainingI don't think so. You can be in a state of denial about your own knowledge, but not genuinely ignorant of it. People who lack certain instincts lack knowledge, but those who are "trained" (e.g. domesticated) to forget their natural feelings only exist in denial. For example, a trained animal still feels desire for things which are denied from it, but simply disciplines itself, even through self-harm (abused dogs may bite themselves the same way abused humans may cut themselves). Training (e.g. "socialisation") is a means of self-denial, (e.g. etiquette).
>it stands to reason animals "think" and "experience" the same way humans do, fundamentallyWell, experience is a condition of sense organs, which differ, and so nervous systems differ (including brains). But even creatures like microorganisms or plants have an experience in the world without animal complexities. A germ itself has instinct and so has knowledge, since otherwise, it couldn't navigate reality. So all knowledge is rational, since it evidently serves a function. Emotions themselves are also physiological phenomena which tell us about ourselves - thus, our body "knows", even if "we" may deny this inherent knowledge. A feeling is factual of its own experience, at the very least. This is also a basic limit of domestication; if out instincts could be changed, rather than temporarily ignored, you could overwrite gay feelings in a man by intense torture, yet no single case of a successful "conversion" has ever occured. This is even more confusing if we see sexual orientation as a learned behaviour, since if it was taught, it would be able to be untaught. So then, knowledge is clearly inherent, and so can never be unknown, since it exists in the body.
>acting in the world appears to inherently require the world to be "mirrored", "apprehended" internally, ie "thought"Well, thinking is not always the same as knowing. Thinking can lead to knowing, but knowledge is itself not thought. Knowing is really a type of feeling, and thought often negates from our feelings.
>>2867750>>2867741Gonzalo cost peru its chance by being a retard
BE is banned again. He even paid for xitter blue lmao
>>2868013he and Rich Spencer should go to a log cabin bin and start a pod cast about how based the democrats are.
>>2868013When will he join DSA?
>>2867305Bruh it's about Pakistan's half of Kashmir.
>>2868042DSA Sorelian Caucus
>>2868260Lenin organized a group of garrison soldiers, sailors and factory workers to take over Petrograd (the capital at the time). It was a coup d'état. Not about convincing the common retard to "vote for them."
>>2866803It's a known phenomena in certain circles where fascists and MLs hook up/have sex cause they're fixated on each other or the fascist is just really attracted to political extremism or something. Meaningless heresy post from me but it's a thing
>>2868276My favorite part is "I read it like 15 years ago, I don't remember" and it's the most basic thing about Leninism.
>>2868260i've found its very hard to argue with libs because they lack so much fundamental knowledge of Marxism or socialism or even any kind of complex political, economic, philosophical, anthropological system or ideology or any understanding of the history and contexts of any ways of thinking.. all they really know is to be really loud and annoying with their beliefs in regards to the most pressing specific issue that they can easily take a side on and is widely popular at the moment. thhey'll just argue about abortion and trans bathrooms, how gender is a social construct, or how trump is a rapist. very rudimentary knowledge of modern politics, and almost no knowledge of any greater systems, just stronger opinions on very specific issues and that's it. the worst part is, just because most of these libs are debating 10 autism score inbred retarded MAGGers who boast about their wishes to enslave women, the libs think of of themselves automatically as the most "educated and empathetic" group out there (they're always sure to use those specific terms, when none of those are true lol). all in all, yeah its just difficult cause you'll be so fucking deep into theory, and some libfag will say some bulsshit that exposes a sever lack of information, and it often just leaves me stumped because I realize how far behind they, and because the deconstruction and conversion process can take so long, at that point anything I say will just make me feel like a crazed lunatic shouting propaganda, the same way we view Nazis when they start randomly talking bout herrenvolk and judeo bolshevism. I mean, maybe I could sit them down for a 10 part lecture and explain how creation of civilization and the subsequent invention of private property has influenced the superstructure, but I just get stumped cause I feel like I cant say anything in a span of few minutes that could even get them understand even a fraction of what i'm trying to get across
>>2868300Yeah, basically this guy has a daily youtube stream where he dunks on MAGAtards so the two clips I've seen of him engaging with MLs is pretty much just him not understanding what he's arguing against and acting like the other person doesn't understand politics. Seems like a common lib thing.
>>2868276I mean, you capture the essence of the vanguard, but you must understand that even the vanguardist Lenin had–at the least, a dual faceted, and at most, a multi-faceted approach to the revolution. Leninism is not a dictatorship of the party, it is only meant to serve as a tool to lead the masses and their existing movement (or build one for them if they don't have it currently). But the movement must have two faces: a hyper-centralized, organized core (often secretive and militant), and a mass movement of sympathetic supporters who are not card carrying members of the party (or any party for that matter), but are the sympathetic base that can use their numbers to their advantage, i.e. to protest, or strike or any other mass activity which can be done to showcase the strength or popularity of the movement, and just exist as a popular base whose existence can agitate (even slightly) the establishment. these are the two pillars, just as theory and praxis itself are dual pillars of action, both the core and masses are big enough to render the other futile with their nonexistence. some might say without the mass support the Bolsheviks had gained in the last year or so before the revolution, they may have never been able to conjure up enough soldiers to survive the war. if we are to start any organized militant action (just a hypothetical glowies, don't come after me) we would first need to engage the masses and provoke them with a mass media campaign aimed at agitating and bringing them to our side. without their moral support, we wouldn't survive
>>2868314>and a mass movement of sympathetic supporters who are not card carrying members of the party (or any party for that matter)It's my understanding classic ML strategy really shows its strength through mass organizations. The "party" could be electorally small but votes in parliament are not necessarily how MLs measure their own success, it's one arena to conduct struggle but so is being able to command the support of millions in the streets and have the power to shut down factories and railyards and ports. Or wield power through a nation-wide sharecroppers' / landless farmers' league. The cadres in the party rank up based on their experience and ability leading those mass organizations comprised of people who are not necessarily communists themselves, as you point out. It's the ability of communists to get into and politicize and influence interstitial spaces where people live and work and become terrain of struggle.
When you do read about that, I'm like oh word I can see how this would've been very effective and threatening. Thing I'm not sure this ML in the video understands that either, he's just smugly saying "uhh read Lenin, what do you mean you haven't read Lenin" and then gesturing to vote for a third party. The natural reaction from anyone is going to be no, I haven't, what the hell are you talking about, you tell me "what should be done."
>>2868360>Thing I'm not sure this ML in the video understands that either, he's just smugly saying "uhh read Lenin, what do you mean you haven't read Lenin" and then gesturing to vote for a third party.I wish smarter MLs would show up in these type of arguments with libs. I don't think the lib outsmarted him or anything, but he could've made better points.
>>2868367I don't know what they're really debating or what the context is. If it were me though, I'd probably not care about debating Lenin/Stalin/Mao whoever with the lib, but to challenge the lib on the limitations of his own politics. He has a Minnesota flag behind him, but there's a direct example there of workers openly confronting authority because they naturally see these ICE agents as their enemy. He probably supports that too, but that's not voting either.
Try to break them out of their box. Also I think MLs probably get too caught up in their own aesthetic. Liberals talk about freedom, liberty and equality but without any teeth to those things. But how can you say Americans really free or equal when they're being coerced by the state or by bosses, that's a contradiction within liberalism. A liberal can't win that argument straight up. Also the rich and well-connected want to make life so difficult that people can't go out and stand up to those ICE agents because they're too exhausted just trying to make enough money to survive. Trying to make these terms mean something different might not have a good track record either though, and you might not turn the guy into an ML (but it's not like that ML's approach is doing it either), but you might push the guy to at least not actively oppose what you're doing. (Or if not him, his listeners.)
>>2868417she can seize my means of reproduction
>>2868395I think he just does call ins with people and argues with them. I never watched one of his streams because watching a lib argue with MAGA for two hours sounds like a nightmare.
>>2868329this is gayer than sucking dick
Argentina haters when they find out what country Che Guevara was from (it wasn’t Cuba)
Who tá is listening to Red Scare podcast at this point? Leftists hate them now, the right-wingers they pander to don’t care for them either
Peter Thiel needs to cut the bucks because no one is listening to that shyt
>>2868588He has already pivoted to the plastic meth tool
Trying to sell a podcast by two artsy fartsy women from NYC to 80 autism score rightoids who would rather listen to Asmongold rant about how the latest Marvel cape shit movie is woke was such a retarded idea it could only come from a gay conservative
>>2868013I think Spencer got it right back in 2020. the Democrats are just as much white supremacists and impertialists as the Republicans. They're just less obvious about it and more competent. Trump has been a blessing for communism world wide.
>>2868632>Using strategy to defeat your enemies is Jewish and subversiveDoes he explain his reasoning on why the Aryan master race is supposed to be retarded?
>>2868013Didn't Obama deport more illegals then Trump?
>>2868280So the moralists who don't live in delusional fantasies or post degen memes are all secretly gay and the degens on both the right and left who make femboy memes and smoke weeed are totally hetrsoxual
>>2868632The Trojans were Turkish and worshipped the same gods as the Greeks, despite the gods having favour on different sides. Athena is worshipped by the Trojans but Athena betrays them anyway - what if its just that the gods are evil and not the men who are their playthings? Odysseus being the first Jew has a basic theme in the exodus I suppose, and Odysseus is also intellectual, but apart from this, I don't see the connection, especially since Odysseus rejects the Sirens and the land of the Lotus, where fleshly desires reign. This is not Dionysian. Athena leads Odysseus home like she gave power to Diomedes of the Greeks, so is Athena the Jewish goddess (e.g. Ashera)?
>>2868632what a dumbass lol
>>2868367>smarter MLsalmost an oxymoron
>>2868632>Ukraine flag why am I not surprised
>>2868632what is this guy even in favor of anymore? seems like the white supremacist snake is eating its own tail
>>2868280>It's a known phenomena in certain circles where fascists and MLs hook up/have sex cause they're fixated on each other or the fascist is just really attracted to political extremism or something.But who tops, and who bottoms?
>>2869109This is why you are the exact same as the chuds on 4chan, thinking of porin sexuality constantly, porn rotten freaks, you should stick to hanging out with those freaks
>>2868013So does this mean they're gonna make Democrats win in 2026 and 2028? Can't imagine any other reason they'd give the likes of Fuentes new marching orders.
>>2866143I agree with him in principle, but I think the correct interpretation is to dig up kissenger's bones, smash them to powder, mix that powder into a slurry and pour that slurry into a sewage pond.
>>2868417invite her to my reading group 🫠
>>2868280>>2869109the only time I heard if this I think the fashie was into bottoming because he has a smackie with HIV.
/pol/: Hispanics pretending to be white
/leftypol/: White guys from Portland and Seattle pretending to be ethnic
>>2869341Bad Empanada had a video where he watched some of these JDL freaks. Can anyone remember what it was called or a link?
One of them was all fucked up and had no teeth like a crackhead. It was funny.
>>2869324>/leftypol/: White guys from Portland and Seattle pretending to be ethnicNope. A lot of us are non-White. It's funny how you /pol/tards try turning being White into an insult tho. Like you idiots come here and do like the reverse of the "post-hand" thing as it would go on /pol/. I get it tho, you guys tire of being around the /pol/tards, you come here and see a more intelligent class of people and are like:
>Ahhh this must be where the White people are!>If only I could make them see their "suicidal empathy" that all of us noble White people we could have an intelligent community of White supremacists! >>2869522You know over 50% of Israel's population is native to the middle east, right? It's not just Ashkenazim.
>>2869372>SHE ITS SHE<slowly pulls out pepper spray<whatd youse say!? lol crime fighting at its best
>>2869552yo this video just keeps getting better and better. This person overpowers two cops and then finally gets them to use the preferred pronouns.
<I'm gonna spray him >please stop misgendering me<Alright, I'm gonna spray her >>2869522gottem
>>2869524nobody cares bro. you steal palestinian, lebanese, arab, iranian, moroccan, and ethiopian food, and then fuck it up by making it bland and adding quinoa.
by the by, looking for quinoa and other granola yoga mum hippy dippy vegan bullshit in the menu is how you avoid the israeli restaurants masquerading as "middle eastern".
>>2869246>>2869630I feel like every single new radical leftist online phenomenon (whether its a small podcast or even a big movement that forms) ends falling into these electoral causes, because at one point they realize they cant just sit and critique everything from their armchairs, so they look to join or support a real movement, but most most of them and been soycucked by influencer culture and lifestyle so they no longer have it in them to get out and start something that resembles a real vanguard, and instead just find some rradlibs to endorse because "truss me vro they better than ze other options its critical support in the face of orange hitler dis da political revolution n sheet"
>>2869630Havent watched those guys in a while, wtf happened? This is disgusting
>>2869682Always been a grifter opportunist
>>2869630saw a paul cockshott video the other night called uniting the left or left unity or something and he made the point that in practice basically everyone is a social democrat because we're just watching, waiting, and voting instead of organising the party as a dual power congress or forming a red militia.
mamdani has been pretty good so far, just because he's eventually going to cuck out, because the DSA sucks, and the nature of bougeois democracy doesn't make it necessary to hate the guy: he's making the right people seethe.
the podcast is also pretty good and mike hasn't said any cringe shit defending platner on it.
weak drama. the platner shit is moot: he quit. the deprogram boys continue to recommend gold when it comes to books and content. reddit sucks.
>>2869630Idk why ultras are so sharply critical of Zohran. For all his flaws, he is a means to an end of agitating for class warfare. I have a feeling Rabb will have a similar outcome.
>>2869693>just because he's eventually going to cuck outhe already has
Sorry I can't really take people seriously that got into leftist politics in the first place because they were exposed to lefty ideas thanks to Bernie Sanders' or AOC's electoral campaigns and then shit on Mamdani. Bitch, without electoralism you'd still be a little chuddy, shut the fuck up. Your wokescolding is annoying.
I wonder how Mike feels right now. He used to be very sceptical of Plantner and basically disavowed him during tattoo gate but only pulled a 180° because of the AIPAC attacks and because Hasan talked him into it. That's what you call egg on your face, and now the neolib destiny/ethan klein audience are trying to psy-op the ultras, the same way every second ultra poster on this board is just a sharty troll who has figured out they can post anything as long as they are doing it under the ultra banner.
>>2869524Damn, didn't know they had Sushi and English breakfast in Morocco.
>>2869759Just preparing him for the Flocked world he is going to grow up in. Big brother is always watching.
>>2868314>we would first need to engage the masses and provoke them with a mass media campaign aimed at agitating and bringing them to our side. without their moral support, we wouldn't surviveISIS, Al-Qaeda and Mexican drug cartels captured entire cities, towns and villages with relatively small militias.
Next to zero resistance in the non-Pashtun cities in Afghanistan where Taliban isn't popular.
I think you underestimate how passive the average person is. They're not going to risk their lives like an organized group of disaffected armed young men would.
Prigozhin had a very real chance of seizing Moscow. He chickened out. Cucktin's approach to the war is unpopular among the soldiers.
>>2869758people getting electoralism fatigue is a good thing, you are just a reactionary, you belong in the dustbin of history
>>2869716>he is a means to an end of agitating for class warfareHe's a reformist
>>2869716>Idk why ultras are so sharply critical of Zohranbc they're children
Yeah, grow up.
>marx: *scientifically proves the thing that produces social change is class struggle*
>socdems come in and waste an entire century (and counting) doing class conciliation making sure everything stays the same
>to this day leftoids still defend them and accuse you of not actually wanting things to change or understanding how they do if you dont support them
material explanation?
>>2869819b-ut zorhan has hype and aura
>>2869819Give up, they've beaten you for an entire century like you said. Obviously they're too strong for you.
>>2869819Russophobia and Sinophobia
>>2869819If even Rosa was defeated by them, what chance do you have?
>>2869824How can one man be so based
>>2869630While I have critiques of JT's video, internet communists are whiny, nitpicky faggots so I don't blame JT for telling that guy to fuck off
>>2869824If he actually does it (he won't) he'll have my respect
>>2869945Not a burger. If he tried, how would it actually go down? I don't know how that works. Would he have NYPD do it? In that case he would probably have to purge it like Saddam in 1979.
>>2869952He literally just can't. The NYPD is apparently independent of him. He can't order them to do shit.
>>2869955True, the NYPD answer to nobody but the police unions
>>2870081This man living my dream.
I love you autistic bird man.
>>2868260The lib's take is bad on his own terms. He says he wants to reform the electoral system to make it easier for third parties. But Instant Runoff voting does not have a track record of helping third parties much. A change to a proportional system would do that. Even if you stay within the ultra-myopic scope of electoral reform
to another single-seat election system, Approval voting or Bucklin voting or some Condorcet method would deliver third-party candidates more often.
I'm just going by this short clip, but it appears the ML did everything to come across as a weirdo. You are not going to win over the host, you can only hope to let listeners feel some cracks in the host's ideology. Set this very modest goal and talk in a gentle way.
Destiny and a bunch of other Kick streamers were kicked out of the National College Democrats Convention under the threat of security, likely based on Hasan's request by a guy with a Pali cloth. The Hasanist-Leninist coup is underway. Neoliberalists-Nafoists OUT. Anti-zionists are in control. Stand back and stand down.
https://nitter.poast.org/PolitiConcern/status/2078613307993239612Rumors are swirling over a planned group walkout stunt during Hasan's speech by come factions of the dem college students and social media agitators.
>>2869947saji sharma did a review of this trashfire and makes a compelling case that it's one of the shittest most irredeemable films of all time. uwe boll should have stuck to boxing, filmmaking with CTE must be really hard. ofc the actors in that scene were israelis, as israelis are the living manifestation of racism.
back in the day people were saying that uwe boll was making his shit videogame movies through some kind of german bundesfilm grant program. if he's done that again making explicit nazi propaganda might get him in the shit, depending on how committed the german state is to islamophobia.
>>2870210>depending on how committed the german state is to islamophobia.Yea, about that.
He'll be fine.
>>2870194investing significant time to blowing and cupping the balls of people that hate them is a democrat tradition. telling israel and nato to piss off is a good start, but they still need to fuck off corpo, arms, crypto, the military, and every other cunt that stabs them in the back.
>>2870208hasan is the least offensive DSAcrat and the face of normie anti-zionism. pulling a walkout stunt is going to make the protestors look like zionists or some other kind of gay baby.
>>2870218lmao, that aged well.
>>2870208fucking ultra takoids third worldists now doubt. spit on em. ptooey
Andrew and Tristan Tate, brothers who are social media influencers, were arrested by federal authorities Saturday in Miami, the US Marshals Service said.
The charges against the pair were not immediately announced. Brady McCarron, a spokesperson for the marshals, said the warrant was sealed.
They were arrested on an extradition request from the UK, according to a person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the case.
A news release from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Andrew Tate, 39, had been charged with seven further counts of rape, three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation, three counts of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and 19 additional charges for offences relating to indecent images of a child and extreme pornography.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/jul/18/andrew-tristan-tate-arrested-miami>>2870241Kek. get fucking rekt.
Sadly these two freaks will thrive in UK prison though.
>>2870241>jordan peterson dying>tate brothers prisonjust need nick fuentes to fall down a flight of stairs and get paralyzed from the neck down and all will be right in the world
>>2870251i forgot all about dr jordan peterson
>>2870259Lmao. New meme format?
>>2870259Why did he do it?
>>28702369/10 gives me hope for the future TBH
>>2870241Still think about how there are millions of confused dweebs that idolized these epstein wannabe sex traffickers because "muh masculinity".
>>2870194Guy in the keffiyah was the College Dem National Vice Chair.
>>2870251>all will be right in the worldoh my sweet summer child…
>>2870259This is better than the other version specifically because of the detournement aspect
>>2867193I honestly think incels occasionally love themselves too much. She's cute tho
>>2870294i like how it added all the muscle
>>2870241Does this mean Barron trump is no longer a fan?
>>2870251>>2870254Clav lost all of his roided fake muscles after his plastic surgeries. Maybe he will soon die.
uyghas acting like Argentina is some fascist hellhole because it’s mostly white and has a libertarian president
1) That region (including Chile, Uruguay and southern Brazil) was sparsely populated before Europeans started immigrating en masse during the 19th century and barely had any slavery, hence why it’s so white. Nazis went there because there were already huge German communities.
2) They had a generic LatAm succdem government just a few years ago. It’s also the birthplace of Che Guevara, Eva Perón, Maradona (one of the few openly leftist soccer players) and Pope Francis.
Just chill ffs.
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>>2870356it's not mostly white
>>2870362If we take "white" to mean european then yes, overwhelmingly so. anglo-american definitions here wouldn't apply
>>2870348why do communists just have so much fucking aura??? if only they knew our history everyone would come flocking to us
>>2870346Almost as if both Haz and Jesus were people from the Levant
>>2870356ArgenSSimians are ontologically fascist KKKolonizers.
>>2870384you call that a source?
I’ve read on /pol/ that the term “Karen” was a Jewish psy op to make people hate white women, these uyghas literally turned into SJWs but for white people
>>2869819Racist leftcom babble. If you don't support nationalism and social democracy, you're a chauvinist ignoring the revolutionary movement of the 21st century. We gotta defeat Donald Trump y'all. Your theorycel bullshit ain't doing shit
>>2869819You only think things stayed "the same" because you're doing the ultra meme of "if the mode of production doesn't change then nothing ever happened"
We're gonna pretend there wasn't a systematic undermining of social democracy as well since the 60's, accelerating since the fall of the URSS, nah bro, they're all libs so they're actually the same.
>>2870276A product of the Epstein Class controlled media wanting to normalize their depravity.
>>2870384Don't care; still listening to Woody.
>>2869828Got filtered by Debord award
>>2870384>Guthrie's second wife, Marjorie Mazia, was born Marjorie Greenblatt, and her mother Aliza Greenblatt was a well-known Yiddish poet. Guthrie wrote numerous Jewish lyrics that can be linked to his close collaborative relationship with Aliza Greenblatt, who lived near Guthrie and his family in Brooklyn in the 1940s. Guthrie, the Oklahoma troubadour, and Greenblatt, the Jewish wordsmith, often discussed their artistic projects and critiqued each other's works, finding common ground in their shared love of culture and social justice. Their collaboration flourished in 1940s Brooklyn, where Jewish culture was interwoven with music, modern dance, poetry, and anti-fascist, pro-labor, socialist activism. Guthrie was inspired to write songs that arose from this unlikely relationship; >These lyrics were rediscovered by Nora Guthrie and were set to music by the Jewish Klezmer group The Klezmatics with the release of Happy Joyous Hanukkah on JMG Records in 2007. The Klezmatics also released Wonder Wheel – Lyrics by Woody Guthrie, an album of spiritual lyrics put to music composed by the band.[139] The album, produced by Danny Blume, was awarded a Grammy Award for Best Contemporary World Music Album.[140]Lol he wasn't even Jewish, his wife was
>>2870384>Woody and Marjorie had three children, including a son, Arlo, and when it was time to prepare for his bar mitzvah, Marjorie contacted Yeshiva University’s Rabbinical School. They sent a young rabbinical student named Meir Kahane – who was later to become the founder of the JDL and an MK.https://www.jpost.com/international/article-749814
>In preparation for Guthrie’s “Hootenanny Bar Mitzvah,” his parents hired a “sweet young rabbi” as a tutor, Guthrie told The Journal during a phone interview. The rabbi’s name was Meir Kahane, who went on to become the extremist founder of the Jewish Defense League and the Kach political party.
>“Rabbi Kahane was a really nice, patient teacher, but shortly after he gave me my lessons, he started going haywire. Maybe I was responsible,” Guthrie said with a laugh.https://jewishjournal.com/culture/arts/10614/ >>2870384I hate nativists so much
>>2869716US is getting so shit that thirdworlists are starting to support US politicians
>>2870294Why don't you just draw it in MS paint yourself? Im sure it would still look like an 8 year old made it. What is the point of generating this?
>>2870384The woke left is trying to cancel Woodie for being pro USSR and rightly justifying molotovribbentrop
>>2870384Wtf bros didn't know he was a jew
>>2866547>A boat ride in Turkey cost like $100and the plane tickets?
and the hotel room cost?
and the food?
and what about work? are they on a vacation trip or how does that work? how can they afford not to work and have leisure time?
>>2870651money from tulsi gabberd's slush flund for black ops
>>2870651They're probably there on some supposed "party business" no? Or do you think they're actually on vacation sponsored by their members?
> what about work?Both these guys are streamers who make money by sitting in front of a camera lol
>>2870651Can someone explain to me why they all felt the need to be in Turkey during the NATO conference? They sure where not there in solidarity with repressed leftists.
>>2870654>Both these guys are streamers who make money by sitting in front of a camera lolyeah I guess it's fucking possible.
a barista is 'bourgeoise', 'parasites' even (some of the statements I've seen from their crowd) but these modern-day minstrels somehow aren't.
>>2870659I think that debate was mostly about what constitutes a "productive worker", aka someone who generates surplus for capitalists through the transformation of commodities by their labor, who should thus be organized as revolutionary proletariat. Imo, barista is a bit of a blurry occupation in that regard because at first glance it's a service job, but they still produce commodities in the form of fresh coffees that people consume, so idk they seem pretty proletarian to me.
It's a bit of a silly discussion in the first place. But the occupational status of their leadership is not really relevant to that I think. It's not a moral category like you seem to be implying. Lenin was a lawyer, but his non-productive worker status has no weight on who the Bolsheviks should have been organizing on a class basis or made them less of a proletarian party because he was not a factory worker or smt
>>2870651They were invited to a conference there, but why does it matter? Do you think blue collar workers in Western countries can't afford a vacation (not saying they are blue collar workers, but that's the point you are making)? Do you have to be a homeless bum who works day jobs to be a communist?
>>2870537>We're gonna pretend there wasn't a systematic undermining of social democracythats only possible because social-democracy fundamentally keeps the class rule intact
>>2870671don't really care either way but it looks fucking garbage lol
>>2870716>Do you think blue collar workers in Western countries can't afford a vacationNTA but i do think they should not vacation in Turkey, yes.
>>2870716I think it does matter if Haz et al are getting paid by either US/Russian/whatever intelligence to be wreckers. How can you trust someone if they're a paid propaganda tool?
>>2870747In which country are you allowed to vacation in?
>>2870761Oh okay so we are just fedjacking now after you realized your argument was retarded
>>2870768How is it fedjacketing? They literally have gone on state-sponsored visits to Russia to do stuff no normal person would be allowed to do
>>2870768IDK anon, none whilst they are holding the NATO summit and repressing their leftists.
>>2870747>NTA but i do think they should not vacation in Turkey, yes.thats stupid, you're falling for national spooks. communists should have access to every single community on the planet
>>2870821Ok anon. Enjoy your visit to Tel Aviv, i guess.
>>2870838spooked out of your gourd son. america is a bigger threat to humanity than israel could ever hope to be and nobody has a problem with workers traveling to and agitating here
>>2870840Not who you responded to, but I would look at a comrade very weirdly if they told me they went to USA on a holiday
>>2870841What country are you from?
>>2870841as a yank i welcome any and all foreigner that would like to live in hawaii and agitate for independence
>>2870842Finland
>>2870843I don't consider Hawaii to be part of USA
>>2870844>I don't consider Hawaii to be part of USAall the more reason to move here : ) we promise to assimilate you only a little bit
>>2870840> nobody has a problem with workers traveling toI do.
You should not be travelling to vacate in the USA.
Honestly, i can imagine you being shamed out of many an organizing space after admiting this.
>>2870850>attending socialist conferences in reactionary countries is le bad actuallymarx lived in London btw
>>2870853They attended a socialist conference? That's weird because they were actively glazing Turkey in the press as it was rounding up and arresting its socialists.
https://rrn.com.tr/en/jackson-hinkle-turkey-should-possess-nuclear-weapons/ >>2870869Geopolitical reasons.
>>2870869>Turkey>great civilizationWeren't they just a bunch of stepp-hillbilly mercenaries that turned on their employers in the middle ages and kept a chunk of the Roman Empire as loot?
>>2870869Im sorry but I'm never calling the country anything other than Turkey. I don't have those umlauts on my keyboard
>>2870868>Politically, he is a Eurasianist who favors closer relations with China and Russia, and is one of the most anti-American politicians in Turkey.Im supposed to hate this guy?
>>2870877>In Turkey, on 21 March 2008, Perinçek was detained as part of an investigation into the alleged organization named Ergenekon. This followed the arrest and detention of 39 suspects in January 2008 during raids targeting Ergenekon. On 5 August 2013 Perinçek was sentenced to aggravated life imprisonment.[14] He was released on 10 March 2014 together with many other prisoners.Turkish nationalists seem to be sensing a change in the winds and switching sides to China and Russia
>>2870568How is any of this Arlo’s fault?
>>2870869Bourgeois reasons.
>>2870953turkish nationalists care about one thing, redrawing the borders around them to strengthen the empire, they're smart enough to realize their relationship with the west actively counters that idea through israel. playing both sides will always be turkeys thing but at a certain point america will make them choose
>music makes the bourgeois sing and the rebel
What did Madonna mean by this?
Who's going to win the worldcup finals bros?
This unironically isn't even good spectacle.
>>2870384Okay, so what do we pragmatically do with this new info?
>>2870391They are killing themselves because right wing internet propaganda indoctrinated them into an insane worldview that stokes their inferiority complex.
>>2869828>Guy Debord and spectacle=Frankfurt SchoolAt least know what you are bitching about.
>>2870620>idgi????? why do people do something that takes 10 seconds instead of something that takes 10 minutes??????????????oh boy
>>2869828With comrade Gabriel Rockhill successfully exposing the CIA promotion of critical theory we need to discuss how critical theory (especially that of the Frankfurt School and deconstruction) is ultimately rooted in Jewish supremacist thought. Meaning, students of critical theory are being conditioned to see the world through a distinctly Jewish paradigm and this no doubt will end up conditioning them to think like Zionists.
Epistemology matters. We know that the Frankfurt School was overwhelmingly made up of Jewish intellectual elites who had very strong Jewish identities. Walter Benjamin was obsessed with Kabbalah (Jew-voodoo) and Jewish messianism and held a very Jewish-Gnostic outlook, nearly identical to that of the genocidal Jewish settlers in Palestine who want to accelerate the end times. Erich Fromm was heavily inspired by the teachings of Chabad-Lubavitch, one of the biggest genocidal Zionist organizations in the world. Hell, even Adorno’s “negative dialectics” have their root in Kabbalah and traditional Jewish thought. Critical theory itself is stylized in a way similar to Talmudism. As far as postmodernism is concerned, Derrida was very traditionally Jewish as well and this too made up the backbone of his deconstructionist method.
So why is the ivory tower trying to make us think like Jews? Why can’t we throw out this garbage and embrace a distinctly Palestinian and Islamic paradigm as our source of interpreting modern society? Intellectual elites love privileging Judaism over the universal faiths of Christianity and Islam because said elites love how Judaism practically worships intellectuals and calls for intellectual elites to rule over the toiling masses.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CYl845GORmM >>2870210>we boll should have stuck to boxing, filmmaking with CTE must be really hard.uwe boll has been making trash films for like 20 years though
>>2871229Rockhill explicitly called them Jewish supremacists and Zionists.
>>2870855well, everyone knew by the time what Marx was doing for a living. and we know what he was doing for a living.
also, 'lived' is an understatement. He was exiled. the german government want him dead.
>>2871247>european detectedtoo bad.
>>2871218If you're gonna make something purposefully look like shit or low quality, you might as well do it yourself no? Or generate something more impressive that you can't do yourself at least
>>2871248i'm american. it used to not do this when logged out. just kinda funny. not a big deal
>>2871250in addition to taking less time, the sloppa imitating 8 year old honestly did better than an actual 8 year old would have, or most adults for that matter.
>uh uh well ackshually uh if you wanted Spain to win ur a freakin cringe libtard
r/RSP is crying over Argentina losing, feels good
Israeltina lost. Cape Verde won.
>>2871271most classless group of cavemen in the entire tournament
>>2871276i don't even like football but it's crazy that fifa doesn't do anything about it for the sake of their own brand.
1 minute of silence for the right-wing pedophiles with anime avatars on X who adopted Argentina as their team
>>2871272anya taylor is funny lookin and a fake blonde
>>2871340Argentina lost, Hasan won. Seethe.
>>2871342honestly half expect BE to make some fucktarded video about how the argies losing was some imperialist ploy
>>2871340BE is always right about these guys but people don't like admitting it
>>2871340Only thing Pedo Empanada destroys is his credibility.
>>2871349it's really easy to criticise others while only bringing toxicity and clout chasing to the world yourself. if BE wants to show he's better then he should try building a brand that isn't totally based on attacking other leftists
>>2871351like yeah, hasan is a democrat shill, but i would still rather hang out with him than BE and it's not even close
>>2871352What does it matter who you want to hang out with?
>>2871351You would hate Marx and Engels, who spent far more time beating down Proudhon and Bakunin and Duhring than they ever did on the bourgeois of their time
>>2871354people who are are unpleasant creeps can't build movements.
>>2871355idk, i mean they definitely seemed pretty self-centred, i probably would respect people who were 'active' revolutionaries rather than primarily theorists more yeah
>>2871355Yeah, they do sound kinda pretentious dicks tbqh.
>>2871357BE clearly isn't trying to build a movement though, and the movement Hasan is building is just guiding people towards the democratic party, a genocidal imperialist capitalist party that will not change.
Pedo Empanada isn't even a communist.
>>2871351Fucking lmao you spineless rat
>>2871364So? And hasan is?
>>2871364So? The truth is the truth no matter whose mouth speaks it
>>2871364He's actually a trot
>>2871370More communist than him.
>>2871371then why not just say 'hasan is shit' (true) instead of spamming this retard's videos on this board, i swear i've seen 20 fucking BE videos linked on this website
>>2871370hasan doesn't reject the label, be does
>>2871364>the reactionary sexpat isn't a communistimagine my shock
>>2871362If it won't change then it will split as a result of Hasanites joining it.
>>2871376Honest reactionaries are better than lying opportunistic “communists”
At least BE didn't endorsed Platner
>>2871352Yes and I am a mighty king, reigning over lands as far as I can see, come my son I have a magnificent bridge to sell you! Why ofcourse, the sky is green and the grass is yellow, because I say so!
>>2871374Brother this is /isg/
>>2871380real communists hold their noses and vote for the rapist murderer you fucking disgusting thirdoid ultroid fuck you
>>2871379>Honest reactionaries are better than lying opportunistic “communists”false, Lenin knew Roman Malinovsky was an okhrana spy and let him continue to do good party work, you dont care about winning enough
At least Hasan isn't a pedo.
>>2871378Highly unlikely, most of these Hasanites are just liberal progressive democrats already who will compromise and move to the right on any position the Democrats pressure them enough on, as seen with previous "socialists". The ones that won't are incredibly few in number if they exist at all and will just be drummed out of the party when they become too much of an annoyance and it'll be easy since there is no genuine strong coalition or coherent movement to pressure anyone, just various individuals who are slightly more left than the average democrat politician.
Proof that BE is a pedo?
>>2871403He's a westerner that went to go live in an impoverished country for unknown reasons + he looks like one
Proof that BE isn't a pedo?
DNC shills out in force
>>2871407>bro trust meWhy are Hasanoids like this?
>>2871416Bro is the true fourth sword of global revolution
>>2870674another weird thing they have is that their crowd is obsessed in (name-)calling 'leftist' whatever thing they don't like. even to people that have read Marx, publicly shown they read Marx, Lenin, Mao, call themselves communists, they are somehow 'demoted' by the ACP crowd and end up called 'leftist'. the ACP crowd use the word 'leftist' as a slur.
absolutely infantile.
>>2871267I lost 50 dollars by thinking that ZIOnel MeSSi would win.
I should have supported the true antiimperialist in the room. Yamal and the God-Emperor Sanchez
COMUNISM WILL WIN >>2871340BE has a discord server?
>>2871420>>2871416cannot unsee what has seen.
>>2871416lol speed was there?
>>2871427Of course he does. Easy access to minors.
>>2871426I lost $20 on Cape Verde because they never called Messi’s fouls
>>2871430That's future vice chairman to you.
>>2871436Richard Spencer (that Nazi who got punched) realized this and became a full pro-EU/NATO neoliberal
>>2871442A continuous increase in co2 levels is a nothingburger?
>>2871415I acknowledge there's no proof whatsoever that BE is a sexpat, but it's funny and it's the kind of thing he would probably say if it was about someone else
>>2871378>then it will split as a result of Hasanites joining it.then there will be three dengist parties in the US instead of just two
>>2871400>most of these Hasanites are just liberal progressive democrats already who will compromise and move to the right on any position the Democrats pressure them enough onFirst, if that were true then I don't think the Democratic leadership would be reacting the way they are, i.e. losing their shit and seething about it. Second, even if it is true then it just means that the growing desire for American politics to move left will still require a genuine outlet, one that actually pursues the kind of policies they want (a kind of social democracy that the DNC has made it clear they wont tolerate). That puts us back to square one, where these people will either take over the Democratic party or split from it. The growth of the DSA is a political manifestation of a material phenomenon, that is the intensification of class antagonism in the US. Even if the DNC completely succeeded in absorbing or otherwise neutralizing the DSA, they wouldn't eliminate the material basis for its growth.
>>2871505The class antagonism there is between the petit and haute bourgeois, not between the proletariat and bourgeois which is what you’re implying
>>2871508Who won and who lost?
BREAKING: CLAVICULAR JUST BROKE UP WITH HIS ISRAELI HONEYPOT GIRLFRIEND
>>2871420Fuck sake.
>>2871416This man needs new glasses.
>>2871426You didn't put your money on Spain?
You tool. They've had a great tournament. Solid squad.
We could have told you this for free beforehand anon.
>>2871576I really thought that the match was fixed
Hell, 2 goals were nulled to Spain. Couldn't think that Argenina would suck so hard. But its not the first time that has happened this cup. Cabo Verde has eaten millions in bets like that
>>2871574He just wanted the $7,000.
>>2871512No it isn't, there is obviously a class antagonism among American between workers and the bourgeoisie, and the increasing appetite for social democracy is a manifestation of it. Petty bourgs align far more with the DNC and GOP than they do the DSA.
X suspended the british consulate in Jerusalem account for posting these.
should be
https://nitter.net/UKinJerusalem>>2871601literally "shut it down!"
>>2871505Losing their shit does not mean any of this is a meaningful threat to them, they lost their shit at AOC and would anyone claim she is a threat to the Democrat establishment at this point? Wasting all this energy trying to win over a genocidal party is a doomed strategy, all this anger and energy does require an outlet but idiots like Hasan and DSA are channeling all of it into ineffectual attempt at taking over the Democrats, years of work that could be spent building an actual workers party and stronger labor movement is wasted just to end up back at square one in a few more years as you yourself say. That's a stupid strategy. The material basis has existed since the decades, over a century, but it hasn't resulted in a strong lasting socialist movement or party in this country and this won't be any different. Why would it?
>>2870626That's my thoughts too.
Literally EVERYONE, even the most hardcore third worldism is shitting and laughing at Argentina right now.
Only way they come out of this one is via a communist revolution.
>>2871229What's wrong with Judaism and Kabbalah?
>>2871746I mean, I don't know shit about football and I even I could see the way they acted like childish assholes all the time
>>2871340Lel people still seething at BE for being correct about everything
>>2871423Ehh these things are not really my issue with them. It's not a bad thing to differentiate yourself from the chaff. Especially in america where people consider even the DNC "leftist" lol. I care more about the regressive social views of their leadership, their views on homosexuality and feminism and stuff, though imo it doesn't necessarily represent the party as a whole, it doesn't look good to me. But them calling people "leftists" as an insult is not that big a deal
They seem to be quite hostile and abrasive to those who they deem enemies of their party line or whatever, doesn't really matter if they've read the correct books or not
Also this is mostly just randos beefing on twitter, which is not really consequential
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