>>2413547This is so stupid even for Moldbug
The key aesthetic for dark enlightenment is that niche intersection between nerd culture and techbroism
Thats why they call libs "Darth", "Elves", named their companies Palantir and Anduril etc
Ranting about noveau riche and saying the N word is something that boomer porkies like Rupert Murdoch did
>>2413703>The key aesthetic for dark enlightenment is that niche intersection between nerd culture and techbroism>Thats why they call libs "Darth", "Elves", named their companies Palantir and Anduril etcOR
OR Maybe… they figure themselves the mythical "good races" of the middle earth battling ontologically bad&inferior "orcs" because they are bigots in all the way your average western supremacist may be. And what we are seeing is just the facade of liberal democratic PR making more and more allowances for for fascist tropes to meet the needs of declining western hegemony.
Maybe it won't be the telling children "There are children starving in Africa" while the news collectively shrugs about the reasons. Maybe what's needed as the cold war progresses and the place continues to be wrecked by imperialist wars and environmental degradation is something harsher that labels the fleeing masses invaders and so on. And they need to be oppressed, and refused and killed and work for cheap and be grateful to be an underclass. Because they deserve it.
Maybe… The NRX people are just racist and their racism is welcome.
>>2413372>>2413376I think Howard was a bit racist by our standards, yes, but the actual Conan character in the stories was not an blonde Aryan but a bit swarthy, and he came up with the character while visiting the Mexican border. The descriptions of the Howard character resemble the Jason Momoa version more than Arnie.
There are some black fans of the character. (Obama, yes, actually.) I mentioned this already but I went to a meetup of Robert E. Howard fans a few weeks ago out in his hometown. It was a mostly white group of people but the tallest, fittest looking guy was the head of an Age of Conan MMO guild and was black. Not the guy in the middle pic, but there has been a trend of black men when they LARP to pick barbarian characters, and it's visually striking. You can be an ancient warrior-king who claims your realm within a "civilized" (i.e. white) space.
>>2413935Not arguing that he is right, but what in his stupid mind he means by it.
Can't say that the SSilikkkon valley elites have bling like a 90s rapper
>>2413978>Conan was a fighter with some dips in thief rogue, not a barbarian THOOkay in Baldur's Gate maybe but that is Howard's barbarian archetype. We were having this conversation with CPUSAanon and decided it was Snake Plissken. Also honey badger.
Anyways, to contrast this with Haz's barbarian who loves autocracy or whatever, Howard's barbarian is the complete opposite of that. He'd despise some scheming court wizard like Dugin and have Conan just whack his head off.
>>2413978>>2414074Conan is a barbarian in the original cultural sense. He was born outside of and thinks differently from the people of the larger civilizations. The dnd idea of barbarian as just the guy who goes berserk when mad is the wrong way to think of those types of characters.
>>2414279Instead of fighting him on the objective state of Africa, you could have just said the higher density of forests the higher chances of real cryptids currently hiding in them.
Also it's probably not youtube who is filtering you but the poster of the video. They can control the comment section.
>>2414324>WEGslopI really hope you bros aren't actually playing this dogshit.
>RapefiendNevermind I guess you are.
>>2414432ask if he can, if he wanted to.
never fails.
Great rant by some Twitter guy (jvgraz) about antisemitism hysteria in the media:
Perhaps the most disgusting thing about the antisemitism hoax is how Zionists continue to steal victimhood from actual targets of systemic racism and violence.
Do Jews have a problem getting hired for jobs in medicine, finance, law, tech, science, academia, media, journalism, or entertainment?
Is there a professional field where Jews DO have a problem finding jobs?
Do Jews regularly face discrimination when buying a home or renting? What about wage discrimination? Discrimination in healthcare? Education?
Are Jews economically targeted so they can't build generational wealth?
Do Jews have to worry if a cop pulls them over? When's the last time a Jewish person was murdered by police?
When's the last time the CIA imported illegal drugs into a Jewish neighborhood?
Are Jews being deported en mass? Are they regularly detained without charge and denied due process? Are they being thrown into hastily-constructed concentration camps? Disappeared to Central American prisons?
Are there squads of masked government goons running around the country kidnapping Jews?
Does the US regularly assassinate or overthrow Jewish leaders?
Does the US regularly blockade or destabilize Jewish countries? Has the US ever sent death squads into a foreign country to kill Jews?
Are Jews being casually called out by world leaders as violent and dangerous religious fanatics? Are Jews regularly portrayed in the media as terrorists?
When's the last time Judaism was attacked by so-called "respectable" politicians as an inherently violent religion?
How many Jews would have to enter Europe before it was called an "invasion" and treated as a threat again European identity?
How many Jews have seen their home countries invaded and bombed by the US miliary?
How many Jewish weddings and funerals did Barack Obama drone-bomb? Did he assassinate any Jewish-American teenagers?
How many Jews have been systematically tortured by the US military, rendered to CIA black sites, or thrown into dungeons like Guantanamo Bay?
All of these are real examples of systemic discrimination and state violence directed at people for who they are.
Meanwhile Zionists cry about vibes and feelings and couscous being renamed. They cry about people protesting a genocide.
They're so discriminated against they have to invent fake attacks they carry out themselves.
And yet we STILL have to endure these outrageous claims that Jews are somehow being uniquely targeted for hate and discrimination.
How many government hearings have been held about hatred against Black people, Latinos, or Muslims? Any new laws passed?
How many states require people to sign loyalty oaths to the Black community before they can receive a government contract or disaster relief?
Antisemitism in 2025 is a myth put forward by bad actors trying to cover up a genocide. In doing so, they're delegitimizing the actual bigotry other communities face and have faced for decades. They're trying to make us forget what true discrimination looks like.
It's a craven and cynical program carried out by one of the most privileged minorities in history.
And it's time we stopped letting them get away with it.
>>2414319Actual conan the barbarian is a modern fantasy about escaping from capitalist urbanism
DnD barbarians are unironically closer to actual historical barbarians in that these were tribal warriors who incorporated a lot of shoting and fetishistic items in combat
>>2414502that's why it's not a fail. you can literally ridicule them when they come with that idea, and depict them as major imbeciles. tell them:
are you going to exploit 1000 workers with your computer?and of course, you add the correct definition of ideas: means of production are those who can be used to create commodities, through the use of labor, to sell that labor under the LTV, which is used by capitalist to exploit the workers in factories.
after all, they started to use the term "means of production".
I think the powers that be have a full understanding. Like—you think they're not modeling out each and every one of these protests? You think they don't have simulations, contingency plans, protocols already baked into their playbook? You think it's not in their fucking game plan that these protests are completely ineffective?
They know they're ineffective.
They want us to go to these protests anyway. And yeah, the cops might show up, might break it up sometimes, and yeah, some of them might get rowdy—but by and large, the overarching fucking line is: "this is nonviolent." "This is not gonna be a repeat of summer 2020." "We're working with the police." "We have our permits to be here."
Like—what is that doing?
You really think the fucking powers that be don't know this is just a release valve? You think they don't know exactly what it means to make protest part of the culture? Turn it into a lifestyle accessory? "Yeah, I go to a protest every weekend. I'm resisting. I'm putting my free speech to use."
Yeah, sure. But they killed all the Palestinians. We've been protesting for a year, two years, three years—and they just decided to kill them all anyway. And if you've read Wretched of the Earth, you know: the oppressor only responds to what the oppressor knows. And the oppressor only knows violence. You'll never guess what kind of struggle the PLFP has been calling for in America since day one. Armed.
When this goon gets on stage and says, "I don't think you guys are going to be voting again," and then starts tearing the White House down—starts putting his statues up in public spaces—starts talking about putting Trump on fucking Mount Rushmore—do you not see what's happening?
Motherfucker is fully committed to the bit.
And we're seeing it happen in real time. People being abducted from their homes. Disappeared. Sent to countries they've never stepped foot in—to go rot in a fucking camp. And they're building some of those camps here. People are already in them. Grabbed up off the street and vanished.
That's violence.
They're doing violent shit every single day. But the overarching line? There's no room for violence from the left. From the people.
You've got video footage of an old woman—a representative out of Mississippi—and she's being asked, "Our tax dollars are going to starve children in Palestine, they're starving thousands of children," and she just laughs. Cackles.
That woman should be tried in a people's tribunal. She should be tried for crimes against humanity. And all of those people should. Every last one.
But ask yourself—how do you get to that? How do you even arrive at the point where a people's tribunal is possible? That question alone should be enough to shake anyone awake. Something's gotta give. We've gotta get organized. We've gotta get realistic about the level of struggle that needs to take place in the real world.
If somebody busts up in your crib, takes your grandmother to a black site—what do you think people are going to start doing?
They're talking about deporting a million people a year. A million. They are really on that Nazi shit. And they're gonna use AI to do it, the same way the Nazis used IBM. It's a well-known fact that IBM collaborated with the Nazis to streamline the death camps.
Cutting-edge tech means cutting lives to these ghouls. When Peter Thiel says he doesn't think humanity deserves to live, he means that shit.
It's already happened once, and it's already happening here. It's not "it could happen here." It's happening here.
And while it happens, everything else is still happening too. They're still killing people in the street. People are still going hungry. They just cut healthcare for five million people.
When you cut healthcare for people, that's spending on them needing to die. When you say, "You no longer have access to the healthcare you had," for no reason other than you don't deserve it, what you're really saying is: "You don't deserve your humanity."
Okay then. If you don't think I deserve my humanity—then I have to fight for it.
At a certain point, we've got to meet this shit like they met it in 1776. You get all the people together. I don't give a fuck if we disagree. Don't care if you're a democratic socialist, a hardline communist, an anarchist, whatever the fuck. We need a united front. We need to accept any socialist-adjacent comrade who understands the stakes and is willing to take it there.
We need meetings. We need leftist unity. We need a real vanguard party that's willing to take it there.
And what does that look like? It's not the fucking DSA. It's not the PSL. It's not the FRSO. None of these parties are built for the level of struggle that needs to happen.
So who do you turn to?
People have been asking me lately—what should we do? And the honest truth is—I don't know. I know I want to live a long life, and I know what comes with walking the path I walk. I do know that we need to build a vanguard party. And maybe that's what this magazine needs to become. Maybe that's what I can use this clout for. I don't know. But I know something's gotta give. And somebody's gotta be willing to stick their neck out.
I was on the streets in summer of 2020. I was on the streets. And I know for a fact—a fact—that we are capable of so much more when we have the energy and when we're willing to take it there.
I know the reason every one of these protests now—so many of them sponsored directly by the Democratic Party—talk about "no violence," "don't get rowdy," "work with the police," "make good trouble"—the reason they do that is because they're scared.
They're scared of what happened to that police station in Minneapolis. They're scared of what happens when the people speak up—loudly.
Their greatest fear is that happening in every city. Because if it can happen in one, it can happen anywhere. And we know from their leaked communications—they struggle with micro-insurrectionary defense.
They can control 10,000 people marching in a straight line. But 100 people in 10 different places? They're fucked. Ten people in 100 places? That's a thousand people. You think they can keep up?
Think about it.
Why are we not willing to do what needs to be done? Are we going to sit here and watch as every national park is turned to mulch? As they pave over paradise, again and again?
This isn't just about cops. It's about everything. The land. The water. The future. The species. The very idea of being alive in a shared world.
Are we going to watch as everything we know—everyone we care about—declines into suffering, just to enrich ten people?
Brother, why don't you have a dollar for me? And why don't I have a dollar for you? Because there's a rich motherfucker at the top who's taking the dollar for both of us. And there ain't no money left to go around. We gotta go get that money.
Things are coming—and they need to be coming together. Yeah, it's unfortunate we've got so few resources. But if we had more, we'd do more. So we have to do what we can, with what we've got.
And we have to be real: this ain't 2014. It's not 2015. This ain't the pre-Trump era. Hell—it's not even 2020 anymore.
You've got people on the left making hand over fist—and doing nothing with it.
Where's their infrastructure? Where's their principled stance? Their party line? Their breakfast program? The masses do not need another youtube educational video to tell them the rent is going up. There is no alt-right pipeline, there is a swelling mass of people who are radicalized, young, and ready to fight for a new future. Do not listen to anyone who tells you "the conditions are not right" and "there's no hope for a revolution in the US, just grill bro" while asking for your patreon donations to fuel what ultimately is entertainment.
Donating to an NGO is not revolution. Starting a small business is not revolution. None of that will ever make revolution.
Making revolution means making war.
And I just don't think the left has come to terms with that. Not yet. Not even me.
>>2414510The trvke is that the only people willing to organize effective protests against the establishment whether its the left or right are lumpens
NEETs, chronically unemployed people, pimps, drug dealers, etc
These are the guys who constantly cause trouble to the bourgeois gov. Meanwhile campus radicals and libtards all shut up pretty quickly the moment ICE and FBI actually come to their universities and their resumes are flagged
>>2414490>escaping from capitalist urbanismHow so? Most the short stories I read were about him fighting with magic cults, wizards, reptilians while being the outsider when dealing with city states and small kingdoms.
>DnD barbarians are unironically closer to actual historical barbarians. Depends on how Romanized or Christianized the barbarian tribe was at the time.
>>2414515"we need to field a people's army"
"no we shouldn't work with the people who already have the weapons, they are illegalists and yucky"
I was talking to a homie, he knows nothing about politics, nothing about communism, has never heard of Marx, has been in and out of prison and is married to the dope game. You know what he said to me, he said "I do what I do to provide for my people, and I don't give a fuck about politics, but you know, I'd consider myself something of an anarchist, a dude in prison was telling me about that shit, I don't know man, we need to burn this motherfucker down"
You think the PSL is willing to work with a man like that to make the money and build the connections needed in order to take it there? You offer a man like that a seat at the table of power and he'll die for you, it's about loyality, it's about respect, it's about maintaining that honor between your people.
People who have never been close to the street just don't get this shit. Mao walks into an opium den, it's deep into the PPW, deep into the repression, from 10,000 men to 100 men. Do you think he wasn't trying to use these angles as leverage when there's absolutely no resources to be had? Or did he make the alliances he needed because at the end of the day, you can't change the superstructure that creates the opium den without the resources taken from them.
>>2414523Do we have the capability to bust someone out of prison? We aren't even moving like they were moving in the 1970s.
"Bro you need to read theory, it's not like that!"
What theory?
Wretched of the Earth?
On Guerilla Warfare? Which one? The one by Lenin? The one by Che? The one by Mao? Or should I watch another Second Thought video?
"man don't be a pocket watcher"
See that's the thing, if these people where rappers, flexing the wealth wouldn't bother me. You know what I'm saying? ain't too many rappers out here talking about communism, repping some ideological alignment. They honest. It's about getting the bag, escaping poverty. Simple.
But these leftist cats are making a whole lot of money. I've had my people look into it. If the majority of your income comes from working class donations, and you aren't doing shit but b u i l d i n g a s m a l l b u s i n e s s with that money, then what right do you have to represent the working class?
The young lords fucking seized a medical center. The last Black Panthers health clinic closed in the early 2010s.
There's a million a year or more sitting between the top 5 'breadtubers'. There's a reason some of these cats don't disclose their numbers. I make 26 dollars a month on patreon, who knows how much Second Thought makes (I do, I had someone look into it).
How can you make 10x more than your average prole's yearly salary in a month and still claim to be a revolutionary? it's pathetic. It's wrong. Shit I ain't disrespecting the hustle, I know damn well it takes a whole lot of work, grit, sacrifice (and being born in a higher class position) to get there. Maybe it's fox and the grapes, maybe it's a realization that these people aren't even trying to be revolutionaries, they damn sure aren't willing to die for the cause, and they will never use the resources they've been given b y t h e m a s s e s to benefit t h e m a s s e s. They will grow old as respected 'intellectuals' using their business to retire, something none of their working class donors.
What would the panthers do with 100k a month in patreon donations? Am I wrong to be made at the lack of material effort? I don't think there is an alt right pipeline, or some need for leftist youtube educators to combat it, nor do I believe that this boogeyman of an enemy matters all that much. I didn't need an educational video to tell me the rent was going up, and neither did men like Big Bill Haywood.
A revolutionary must realize that if he is sincere, death is imminent due to the fact that the things he is saying and doing are extremely dangerous. Without this realization, it is impossible to proceed as a revolutionary. The masses are constantly looking for a guide, a Messiah, to liberate them from the hands of the oppressor. The vanguard party must exemplify the characteristics of worthy leadership. Millions and millions of oppressed people might not know members of the vanguard party personally or directly, but they will gain through an indirect acquaintance the proper strategy for liberation via the mass media and the physical activities of the party.
–Huey Newton
>>2414578you kiss your mother with that mouth booooy? the correct answer is YESS, YESSS
go learn some basic manners 4chud
>>2414592Horny also goes for Jews.
>>2414593I find that adorable. Maybe if we all just say how we feel then we can make a political change!
>>2414600I know you have an emotional attachment to Jews. I have also grown up on a lot of Jewish made culture in the US. Maybe the majority of my culture. But anyways, you dodged the point of how Jews go into quite offensive stereotypes:
>>2414590I'd like to hear your reasoning of a justification. Because she is CIA I guess would be the most immediate one a user of this website would say.
But moving beyond that one example, a large trend I notice with the Jewish domination of media and especially comedy, is they are allowed to insult whoever they like, but to insult a Jew means you are deemed forever unkosher. Why not address that point?
>>2414606>>2414600And to get more to the point, as I said, I also have consumed many, many, hours of Jewish media in my lifetime, it seems to me, that you kind of internalize the Jewish perspective before all others, even your own. Like these people are such a minuscule fraction of the world population. I don't believe in conspiracy, nor do I believe in the holy land, nor do I believe I need to honor Zionists, Jews, or whatever this weird shit in anyway shape or form. I'm tired. I wish to be done with this undue attention that it has drawn in my life. I am not obsessed. You will see the Star of David all over world news. This is them. Just enough. I'm done with Judaism. They need to fuck off and lay low.
>>2414608I called them horny which is true. They're easy. You can say whatever you want, I just find it cute you think "if we all know the Jews are [whatever] and we just say what we feel then…" that it's going to matter. You know most people think the government is corrupt, but does that change anything? It doesn't because that's not how politics and power operates.
>You will see the Star of David all over world news.No Jews… no news!
>>2414611>I just find it cute you think "if we all know the Jews are [whatever] and we just say what we feel then…" that it's going to matter.Where did I say that?
>I called them horny which is true. So you're saying, I racially categorized them, but you are??? You White people are weird.
>You know most people think the government is corrupt, but does that change anything? It doesn't because that's not how politics and power operates.Ok? And? What does that have to do with the topic of discussion?
>You will see the Star of David all over world news.<No Jews… no news!Lol. What is that supposed to mean? No, I think Jews should be irrelevant to world news, considering the portion of the world population they represent, but somehow they take up a disproportionate amount. Maybe it's either everyone else, or it's them. Why is the world obsessed with Jews? Why do they take up so much of the UN's time? It's a wide world. 8 billion people. 0.2%
>>2414600>>2414611i love the horny joo named Alex Lolo veery muuuch (i will NEVER disavow!!1)
but yea we do need more moids like Lethgar here from this Vanguard lolo vid. THANK YOU BIG LETH 💜🧡💙 !!!!
>>2414752>This guy made a thread calling out pedophilia and dozens of /pol/ pedophiles ran in to defend pedophiliaI don't remember subscribing to this newsletter.
Jesus Christ dude. Go to 4plebs.org, there are probably 100k threads that match your description to choose from.
>>2414752They deserve this
Poltards are the ones who popularize the "call your enemy a pedo" meta, mostly in relation to gay people and drag queens
Not only have they enshittified the political discourse, but the only actual pedo in US politics are on their side. This is divine punishment
>>2414916yea i kinda crash out for 12hrs straight today IM DONE, IM DONEE !!!!!!!!!!!
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>>2414948You could start with deleting all this schizo shit from your drives and going to see and spend time with your friends instead of a screen.
Willingly being the most schizo person on an imageboard is not something you should aspire to be, you can do better for yourself than this.
>>2415143He focused on nicks statement regarding class. Because tucker insulted Nick for doing streams in a basement which was a class based insult that Nick is some broke poor loser. So Nick emphasized that tucker Carlson comes from Swanson family fortune and his dad was the head of CIA group while going to a a high school that coasted 45k per year then 45k per year for college then worked for Rupert Murdoch for 20 million per year for a decade and now wants to wear this country boy outfit rolling up his sleeves like he is a working class man.
Nick says that much of the disaffected right who him and tucker Carlson are young men in basements and poor who are angry about various things so it showed that tucker who acts like he is speaking to these people and fighting for them talking about corporations and corrupted actually despises them and looks down them which was shown with this basement comment as tuckers mask came off
As for Candace he focused on the fact that she is married to British royalty now worth 200 million dollars so she has a privileged life and from early in her career she was pushed by people like Ben Shapiro at the daily wire and turning point USA having many resources while he (Nick) was streaming on a cheap webcam from his college dorm room. Nick made this really personal he said his father worked as a toll booth man and that his grandfather on dad side died of drug over dose then that his mom was just a person with normal job while her father died of suicide. So he says that he comes from the regular American story of someone who didn't have much that he is those disaffected young men who didn't grow up with privilege. To add asmongold defended all of this saying Nick is right and that many things are not class issues but this literally he is asmongold said
To add tucker made fun of Nick for being from Chicago and Nick said what is wrong with being from Chicago? That it is a normal place for Americans and that tucker is used to places like Washington DC where the elite live. That he never got the opportunity of the daily wire, fox news or turning point USA. Also that he has been speaking against Israel since the days that you got heavily punished for it. That tucker and Candace didn't start going against Israel till there was no other position to take and it was popular amongst their viewers to be against it that they did it for views and never took a risk going against Israel when it would damage your career
I think Nick is right about a lot of this except he exaggerated you know how low class he was as he was just a regular dude not in slums but tucker absolutely grew up filthy rich with so many opportunities and now is pretending to be working class lumberjack guy with hunting rural clothes when before he would brag about being elite in interviews. Also that Candace is married to an insanely rich guy it is true
>>2414870Because they are actually right wingers/fascists pretending to be leftists. They are idiots and grifters trying to trick people into trying to support them.
Haz has never worked a day in his life and is a rich failson trying to grift. He pretends to be a communist but in reality is a lot closer to a fascist because he reads Heidegger instead of marx.
>>2414812>is it just me or does Haz and this entire ad sound like the average Democrat nomineeI think it suggests that they're not much different from the average Democrat, that they're unprincipled and opportunistic. A lot of the things they say about chasing MAGA mirrors (in a paradox) politicians on the Democratic Party's right like Gavin Newsom appearing on right-wing radio shows.
Not all art is political, but political systems are at least in part aesthetic systems. I don't mean they are just that, but graphic styles, music and architecture are constituents of political ideologies and systems. Or to put it another way, it's through these things that political ideologies construct themselves, at least in part.
>>2415227I get it, facewise she's not that exciting, but I have to say that I don't necessarily find a woman unattractive if her face is not the epytome - or whatever you write that - of classical beauty. That said, the rest of the merchandise looks pretty good and I definitely would. I would only be put off by:
1. bad odour;
2. bad manners;
3. an annoying voice.
It's unfortunate she got shit because she was compared with the Japanese model and most vooters were more into Asian poonani. Tbh, I also found the Japanese lady pic more appealing than hers.
>>2415270Based Pete Burns. I don't know why you put that video, but based nonetheless. I mean, the aesthetic is clearly very different from Haz, but who knows if one day he'll turn to an androgynous style blasting synthpop tunes. After all "Infrared" would sound cool as an eighties act.
>>2415272If you compare SC's and SS's faces, SC is better. Period.
>>2415311Wannabe Rosé from BlackPink. Btw, that could be a picture from an Indian or Nepali university and the girl is from some Himalayan ethnic group - usually with lighter skin than average Indians and "Mongolic" facial features.
>>2415324That was the policy in Apartheid South Africa for travelling businessmen from Japan and Taiwan. It would have been rude to discriminate against them if they were potential investors. Native uygh3az, on the other hand, were just cattle and cheap labour.
>>2415331I guess he pulled an Armenocide 2.0 on all of them like the good old Ottoman Empire. And like he does every night with Ana Kasparian. Btw, how did her crazy accusations against Jimmy Dore turn out?
Crazy stuff: I talk about JD and on tv there's this film with a guy in biker's jacket that says "Chicago Vandals" and two thugs calling him jag off in a bar.
>>2415347Lol this is the one time i like the american culture of pointing and laughing at the mentally disturbed. How much you bet BE hasn't gone anywhere and the rapeoid is being trolled?
>>2415354>the Japanese office girl a model you gullible moron.
>>2415347Critical support to BE. The zionist kleins deserve their children taken away by cps and they should be thrown in jail. Maybe they'll stop eating dog's crap that way. Also, if he moved to Uruguay, I guess it's less crazy than Argentina, at least they had a bunch of succdems in government now and not that bat shit crazy narco-capitalist of Milei. BE himself has documented a network of govt financed and supported trolls. Also, they say Uruguay has a relatively high quality of life for the region.
>>2415354Tbf, it looks like the pic on the right has some kind of filter, even if it's an apparent selfie taken without much thought, while the now famous pic on the left seems like it's not been touched up. And that means she looks better natural and all the people commenting don't know shit.
>>2415355I guess Australia is a better example and actually closer to the statistics you claim.
>>2415388I mean, I know it's bs, but have any of the accusations against BE - mainly, being a pedo on the run from the law in Australia - ever being substantiated in any way? Now he's even a creep with women? Maybe that reddit bitch was just projecting hoping that someone finally made a move on her…
>>2415401Absolutely based. Pete Burns actually wears the pirate eyepatch on the video because he had a botched cosmetic surgery procedure before shooting it. He later developed a very nasty addiction to plastic surgery. Eventually he died poor and in relative obscurity.
>>2415408Actually, my great-great-grandfather - or great-great-great-grandfather, I don't know - went to Brazil from some shitty backwater in central Italy. He met an indigenous woman - eventually my great-great-grandmother or great-great… You get that. I don't know how or why, after a few years of clearing the jungle he was offered a land allotment or a bunch money. He took the money and the son he had with the woman and got to back to Italy.
So, basically it's in my blood. When other people talk about mutts and shiet, I had a century and a half precedent with that.
>>2415413That's the guy! Absolutely based! Do that today, and all the chvdosphere would cope and seethe without end.
>>2415414We are in the middle of a mental health pandemic, no doubt. Also, no one in their sane mind could actually follow or take seriously the kleins.
>>2415429The only things I know about Hasan are:
1. he's Cenk's nephew - so Ana is like his aunt
2. he's good looking and a lot of ladies like him - and I guess a good deal of gay men too
3. he has some shock jock content in his name, I guess.
>>2415433> I have no clue what you're talking about his subreddit is getting blown up by people saying he is too permissive of "edgy whites" and making POC feel unsafe
i cant tell if its a problem because they keep linking to six hour vods by black creators and idk if they are lib or not, they ones in question are not eg, FDsig, but if they were i would dismiss because i know he is lib
i just noticed one poster said
>He refused to hear that universality doesn’t address everyone’s needs and interests. and i was like oh thats radlib idpol the whole point of communism IS "class reductionism" and universality DOES address everyones needs. but its still going on 3 days later
smells like splitter wrecker cointelpro behavior but idont want to jump to conclusions. this is the slop thread so at least one of you should know if the critique is valid
>>2415453>is this the fantano thing?i think its related. that and "platforming" ethan and the nelks or whatever. they are saying he is too forgiving of racists past behavior.
sounds like a bunch of libshit like even his defenders are saying hes just appealing to the broadest audience which happens to be white dudes going down the alt right pipeline and that he is a funnel, that if people want more specific content they should find other creators
i would expect hasan to explain universalism and class reductionism, to "nuance" the argument that yes communism does "magically" fix racism, but that people might be unhappy because it pushes "black issues" specifically to the side and that the intent is to attack the problem of racism at its source in capitalism and class society, that actually fixing the issue requires hard work and generations of time, that you might not even get to personally experience a racism free society.
and the alternative is succdem half measures that bandaid the issue to make a section of petty bourg ladder climbers feel nice and their fans "represented"
but again idk how applicable to the conversation that is cause im not watching a day long vod
>>2415448>his subreddit is getting blown up by people saying he is too permissive of "edgy whites" and making POC feel unsafeOh yeah those little bitches. They can feel as unsafe as they like
and politely in personal contexts ask to stop using words etc, and what not, but when it comes to public entertainment and discussions they can cry all they'd like about it.
>>He refused to hear that universality doesn’t address everyone’s needs and interests. >the whole point of communism IS "class reductionism" and universality DOES address everyones needs.Well no the point is it solves capitalism, Marx in specific solves capitalism in deeply Eurocentric nations and is built around those systems.
I think taking it past that in either direction is just stupid and leads to stupidity, but I thought you meant he was about to say some right winger was right for once, this sounds like a bunch of detail circlejerking from redditors who spend more time watching videos essays than reading books.
>>2415402>this campaign of self-congratulatory face-saving shit of condemning IDF is so fucking annoyingWell the funniest part is not the liberal Zionists heading this stuff, or the more ghoulish counterparts which are doing a 180º. The funniest part is all the lefties that are going to join in, or at least believe that this is some sort of victory for their pro-Palestine activism.
When somebody ten yeas in the future speaks of "the left during the Gaza genocide"(The west bank will be forgotten until the very last stages of it), they'll speak of the triumph that was the recognition of Palestine as a state and how their activism and shit really worked, in spite of the dogged determination of Israeli extremists.
They'll blow up the economic damage, and BDS movement will add a few extra pages and dozens if not more of billions in damage that supposedly resulted in the "victory" over whatever maximalist interpretation of Israel's goals was.
And best of all, the role of NATO/EU in this, much less the MENA compradors will be erased.
And they'll will probably be committing daily acts of war against Iran or Yemen by then. >>2415485im thinking its just lib stans blowing up a nothingburger. the streamer who brought up universality also agrees with hasan he was just talking about messaging, that communities without hospitals wont be moved by universal healthcare without an access program tailored to them. it does seem like it revolves around electoralism tho but even a dsa electoralist can be allies when they are breaking the two party dictatorship
>Well no the point is it solves capitalismyeah but racism is a product of capitalism, a post enlightenment construct to psuedoscientifically justify class stratification.
>>2415408Imagine being so suicidally devoted to one of the most retarded dictators in history over 90% of the male population gets wiped out.
>>2415360>>2415505>modelAs if that means anything. Most "models" are just pretty women who eventually have to have a day job but many pretend to be superstars. What people liked about the photo was it showed her as more down to earth. The mild touch ups and filters she uses, that every other woman also adds to their own photos, is besides the point.
>>2415448I had to stop using reddit bc I would continuously get DMs from redscare losers telling me to kill myself. I mean everyday there'd be a new slew of messages. They started taking over the guest book too.
Moral is: Reddit is run by known fascists, and should be avoided like the plague. Also the two red scare broads make me sad, all the money in the world can't buy pride, these ladies are like 3-4 years younger than my mom lol
>>2415355>an estimated 90% of the population directly descended from African slavesrequesting source on that
>>2415609>one of the most retarded dictators in historydunno man he was managing to turn paraguay around
>>2415462Friendly reminder that Fantano was rolling deep with the MDE crew and the /mu/ crew before disavowing all of that (silently) while pushing towards a more left stance.
People can change, I grew up on 4chan, I get it. but something to consider.
>>2415616Solano Lopez inherited the position and then it only took him 2 years before he was in the war. He could have retired to Boliva with his looted wealth several times but kept the war going for years after it was clear he lost. Literally forcing child soldiers to fight for him by the end.
>>2415624The meme says 1870.
*grand nephew, woops.
>>2415629>The meme says 1870.the meme is wrong then, solano lopez and his father may have been related, but were dissidents under francia's rule (the guy who passed the law mandating race mixing.)
>>2415642the meme was posted in reply to:
>>2415403>the leader of the time forbid men from marrying Spanish women and having to only have seggs with indigenous women so someone must be confused, cuz the meme isn't really relevant to the context
>>2413174>Isn't that the premise of the Matrix movies?Agent Smith says that the first Matrixes were failures because the humans in them rejected their utopian nature, but it isn't elaborated on beyond that unless they go into it in the sequels.
But you're dealing with a character that explicitly hates humanity and wants to see them exterminated, and is part of a machine race capable of experiencing and enjoying sadism so I don't think he's a reliable source.
>>2413235>So how do you focus on depicting this ideal society, while depicting a conflict within it?There are a number of Star Trek episodes that deal with this kind of thing. It usually involves a lot of talking and people trying to develop solutions to otherwise intractable problems. Often times you have situations where neither side is necessarily right or wrong and they've got to do the difficult work of trying to figure out what to do.
Imo a great example is the episode Measure of a Man where the android Data basically has to defend his existence in court because he's such a novelty that there's no real precedent for him yet. The Starfleet roboticist Maddox says that he's just a sophisticated machine and SF property because they found and assembled him and if they choose they can order him disassembled for study and attempted reproduction. They justify this by saying his abilities could greatly improve the lives of organic federation citizens and save them from hardship and danger. It's made even more complicated because for reasons the only ones available to act as defense and prosecution are Picard and his first officer Riker, who both view Data as a person, colleague, and comrade, but if they refuse then the arbitrator will unilaterally rule in Maddox's favor.
So you end up having a deeply frought conflict that most of the participants feel powerfully conflicted over. Maddox has a point about the potential benefits, but it's not a given that he would be able to successfully replicate or otherwise restore Data after the procedure. Riker has to do his duty by the court and try to convince the arbitrator that Data is essentially property because if he doesn't then that will be the summary judgement anyway. Picard is conflicted because the law is pretty cut and dry on the matter but he knows that it's wrong in this case and he has to somehow prove to the court that this machine is a person in his own right and deserving of all the privileges and responsibilities which that entails.
And this is all in a setting that is pretty much as ideal as possible. If you're a Federation citizen you're basically free to live however you want, where power is basically free and scarcity doesn't exist. Just because all of the big problems have been solved doesn't mean that there won't be conflict of greater or lesser degrees. There are always going to be problems that need to be solved and challenges to overcome. If anything a communist society would be even more tumultuous because the mass of people would be liberated and empowered, and more directly engaged with fulfilling their own goals and needs.
>>2415826If games make men rape games make men kill and as such GTA 6 will never be released and feminism will be blamed for it.
Good luck having generations of thugs who so far kept it in their pants on rp servers coming after you.
BBC finds electrocuted, drowned and starved cats in online torture groups
An international network that shares online videos of cats and kittens being tortured has members in the UK, the BBC has found.
The network is thought to have thousands of members who post, share and sell graphic images and videos of cats being hurt and killed.
In one group, on an encrypted messaging app, the BBC found evidence of British members suggesting users adopt kittens from the RSPCA to mutilate.
The BBC investigation comes after two teenagers admitted torturing and killing two kittens in a park in Ruislip, north-west London, in May. They are due to be sentenced on Monday.
The 16-year-old girl, and boy, aged 17, who cannot be named for legal reasons, pleaded guilty after the kittens were found cut open and strung up. Knives, blowtorches and scissors were also found at the scene.
These groups started in China, but BBC News has identified members now active across the world, including in the UK.
The scale of the network has been documented by animal rights activists Feline Guardians.
The group says between May 2023 and May 2024, a new video showing the torture and execution of a kitten or cat was uploaded approximately every 14 hours.
It says it has documented 24 groups active this year, the largest of which had more than 1,000 members. The most active torturer is believed to have filmed the torture and killing of more than 200 cats.
Chat conversations in one group, seen by the BBC, include what appear to be UK-based accounts discussing how to get hold of cats to abuse.
One member discussed how to adopt kittens from the RSPCA and posted application forms. Another post shared an advert for kittens for sale in the UK, posting that they wanted to "torture them so bad".
Videos and photographs seen by the BBC are graphic and extremely disturbing.
They include footage of cats being drowned and electrocuted. One video speculates on how long a kitten in a cage will survive if it is not given food.
Group members appear to want to inflict as much pain as possible. In online chats, torturers explain how they use electrocution to resuscitate a cat in order to prolong suffering.
New members are encouraged to mutilate and post videos to gain access to a wider network.
The BBC saw evidence that suggested children were taking part in these groups. One member posted: "I'm 10 years old and I like to torture cats."
In September 2023, the network even promoted a "100 cat kill" competition, during which members were encouraged to see how quickly the group could torture and kill 100 cats.
Videos depicting the horrific torture of cats first went viral in China in 2023.
The man responsible for two extremely graphic videos, Wang Chaoyi, was detained for 15 days by the Chinese authorities and forced to issue a "letter of repentance".
But his footage developed a cult following and others began making similar content for Chinese and Western social media, gaining thousands of views, before groups developed on encrypted messaging apps.
"Little Winnie" is a well known name used in the cat torture community for having a profile picture that mocks the Chinese leader Xi Jinping with an image of Winnie the Pooh.
Accounts with that name and profile picture are described as administrators in a number of forums.
An activist from Feline Guardians got in touch with one of those Little Winnie accounts and lured the man behind it into an online relationship.
Eventually she persuaded the man behind the account to do a video call. From that call, the group identified a 27-year-old man living in the Japanese capital Tokyo.
Feline Guardians has held demonstrations outside the Chinese Embassy, in London, demanding that authorities in Beijing do more.
"In mainland China, there are no laws that are stopping this. So that means that abusers and torturers can effectively do what they want and live out these very sadistic fantasies without any consequence. These videos are then uploaded, and essentially that's a global problem, because that means that everyone has access to these videos. Children are seeing this," Lara said.
Johanna Baxter MP, chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Cats, said these groups were "a deeply worrying trend, particularly among young men".
"Animal abuse often acts as a gateway, making future acts of violence easier to rationalise and commit," she added.
>>2415826Gonna be the "Prudish Sex Negative Anti-Fun Fundamentalist" here and state they're 100% right.
>Incest rape simsGo ahead and make a "socialist" argument in favor for this.
<But hurr it's free speech<It's not real<It's just harmless f u nIf you think any of this is acceptable because it's just a "game", Why not other media? Why not extend it to racism too? If some /pol/tard jokes about killing minorities, it's not anymore "real" than him fantasizing about raping a teenage girl, or jacking off to actual footage of it online.
>>2415966This. And it's primarily because they blame The Jews for them not "allowing" them to do the same thing in "white" countries, even though Israel was an ally to Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa. And they're close to numerous rightoids across the west. (Trump, Orban, etc.)
>>2415723But remember she was not mentally ready for sex with adults until the very moment she turned 18 and immediately started whoring herselfnto them.
The countdown to it? Illegal and disgusting pedo behavior. The OF onr second after? Empowering and feminist.
>>2416030 (me)
Today: Making millions from whoring
Tmorrow: Making millions as a feminist author "surviving" the above
After that: An inspiration to feminists worldwide
>>2415991>If you think any of this is acceptable because it's just a "game", It is because no real people are actually doing anything portrayed.
The fundamental question is if it's all fictional then what is the problem exactly?
>>2415991>>2416017>"socialist" argument in favor for this.once again demonstrated that socialists are just bourgeois ideologues as opposed to the real communist movement
you dont have to take a stance, much less a "socialist stance" (lol), on every little thing that happens under capitalism you retarded pseuds
>>2415991>>Incest rape simsCaitlin Roper is literally a part of Collective Shout. Collective shout is a religious fundamentalist Christian group masquerading as a women's rights group.
So you're kinda taking her word for it, How do you know she's even telling the truth of what they are banning?
Of course they would lie about it in order to get sympathy, they just want to ban shit because they themselves can't handle anything the offends their prudish sensibilities.
Hell many of the stuff they are wanting to ban are actually LGBT supporting games and horror games about the negative effects of rape and how it affects victims.
>>2415991>And it's primarily because they blame The Jews for them not "allowing" them to do the same thing in "white" countries, even though Israel was an ally to Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa. And they're close to numerous rightoids across the west. (Trump, Orban, etc.). The whole "the Jews are not
allowing me" is a weird thing they say. There's some psychological issue there. I think the reality is more like, no, they just suck at being nationalists, and don't want to make the effort. They don't want to serve in the military or do all that Ernst Jünger shit because it's a lot of work. They want the patriarchy without the responsibilities that a traditional patriarch assumes. And since you mentioned Israeli support for Rhodesia and South Africa, they really should look at Israeli papers other than Haaretz (which really doesn't have very many readers in Israel) because a lot of them are quite right-wing and have the same position re: immigration into Western countries that Laura Loomer does.
The Israelis freak me out. I came across this Israeli rap video playing with Nazi aesthetics recently. Black outfits, flames, skull masks. The lyrics are all about blowing up your beeper and turning people into kebab. It's pretty gross. But the reason I'm linking it is to illustrate something about it: the video depicts a cross-section of Israeli society ranging from the secular liberal types (who are on the "left" in the society, relatively speaking) to the religious Zionists on the right. I think this is a more effective form of ultra-nationalism because it allows contradictory tendencies in the same society to unite under the same banner.
A lot of fringe types in Western countries try to come up with (what they think are) non-contradictory ideologies. There has been an attempt for years by Nazis to convert leftists by adopting left-wing economic policies while keeping the racism. This has a tendency to cause splits in wignat groups. I think there was this group called the NJP that tried this but it didn't go anywhere. Then you have the MAGA communists who think they can make communism take off by adopting social conservatism and think that will appeal to MAGA boomers like the KRPF does to Russian senior citizens.
The ethnic ultra-nationalism in Israel doesn't overthink it. They'll just go, it doesn't matter if you're religious or gay or a chick who likes to party: we all sing Am Yisrael Chai
>>2416125I've already considered this, and find it irrelevant. They're right even if they're lunatic christofash Westboro Baptist Church fundies or not arguing in good faith. Who they are or why they're really pushing it has zero bearing on whether their stance is correct.
>LGBT supporting games and horror games about the negative effects of rape and how it affects victims.Do you have examples? Not saying it's bullshit, but from what I've seen it appears to be entirely (rape) kink slop and a few racy LoversLab mods.
>>2416087I don't think you need to have a "socialist" argument in favor of anything. I think incest loli rape sims are fucked up and shouldn't be normalized. But if there are people here who think themselves communists who argue this is irrelevant, I want to hear a pretty damn good
socialist argument in favor of why any of this should be allowed to exist.
>>2416130>The whole "the Jews are not allowing me" is a weird thing they say. It was an argument on /pol/ over ten years ago. The Jews get to have their "ethnostate", but Jews living outside Israel won't "allow" Whites to have their ethnostate in turn. Rules for thee not for me so to speak. They see Jews in the west pushing for "diversity" and "immigration" and "multiculturalism" but then look at how Israel is the opposite.
Of course this is wrong, as there are many zionist jews in the west arguing against "open borders", Muslim immigration, against birthright citizenship, in favor of mass deportation, etc. Including many members of the Trump administration and various groups in Germany and the UK. And have for decades now.
But it's a convenient excuse for antisemitism and the fact - and some will state this openly - they want their countries to be like Israel.
They're cowards who must first justify their stances vis a vis some "other", be it Jews or whoever. They can't simply state they want to bring back chattel slavery and think women should have no rights: They need to "justify" it by stating if the Jews get to do it, they get to do it too!
>The ethnic ultra-nationalism in Israel doesn't overthink it.They do, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much time justifying it based on how they were there "first". and it's "their" land, and "God" commands them to do it. (Did God also orchestrate The Holocaust? For this of course they have no answer)
I think Zizek said it best: Right wing extreme/ultra nationalism is all about "you may", but only through some imagined superego ("God", Hoomin Nature, random graphs from misinterpreted or erroneous studies aka "Science")
It's also why I argue against the idea that Communism is "rational". That it's something you can or should convince people of through "Logic and Facts" so to speak. ("Educate the Masses!!!") That Socialism is "Scientific" and this is ultimately what makes it "correct".
To me that all reeks of the vile rank of rightoid cowardice. Like no, I'm not a "socialist" because I think Socialism is more "efficient" and "logical" and some graph or god proves me correct. It's because power - and by extension the power of the working classes, in service of its own abolition, and the abolition of capital - is the only thing that matters and is a priori "good".
Even if someone here were to "objectively" prove that Communism is in fact, less efficient and less rational than capitalism, it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference to me. Power needs no justification.
>>2416152Read it again. Slowly.
I've clearly stated I think it shouldn't exist in the first place, but if there is some "socialist" argument to be made in favor of it, i.e. the success of the international communist movement, socialism, the abolition of capital, yada yada - requires that chuds be allowed to advertise and jack it to loli rape and 3D incest porn or actual CSAM - I'm willing to reconsider.
Now I don't think this argument exists. But IF it exists I want to hear or read it.
>>2416134>normalized.In Australia an adult woman with a flat chest in adult media is illegal. She could be 50 and it is not allowed because her body type potentially resembles illegal material. That's the type of absurdities you end up with this argument.
Now imagine every power tripping Karen judge applying those types of standards to fiction, however she decides what might count as offensive. Can a man argue with a woman in an drama? No, that's basically abuse! You could get Jail time for daring to imagine it.
> why any of this should be allowed to exist.Cost of restricting fiction is too costly compared to benefits. Since there is no actual harm done in fiction the benefit of repression achieves nothing. On the other hand the cost of restricting come from hiring people for constant evaluations of fictional material to see if it crosses whatever line you made up, increasing limits on creators, constant expansion of what counts as off limits, increased use of the justice system from pointless court cases and meaningless use of resource from pointless prison sentences.
>>2416159Basically. An even better argument might be that allowing corporations or the bourgeois state (not that deep down there is much difference between them) to impose any censorship at all, for any reason, is a threat to the socialist cause.
I.e. even Nazi drivel, fake rightoid ragebait and literal CSAM shouldn't be censored - under capitalism - because these powers could be used against socialists.
Like sure, that's worth debating. But the "it's just a game bro" or "just let people have their fun", isn't.
>>2416163>In Australia an adult woman with a flat chest in adult media is illegal. She could be 50 and it is not allowed because her body type potentially resembles illegal material. That's the type of absurdities you end up with this argument. >Now imagine every power tripping Karen judge applying those types of standards to fiction, however she decides what might count as offensive. I don't mind, and I think they have a solid point here too, I think putting prepubescent youth on a pedestal as something to lust over, lament when it's "innocence" is lost, etc. is - to be shamelessly moralistic - wrong. And much of that content is implicitly pedophilic and rapey. Regardless of the ages of the people involved. Don't care if this comes across as "Puritan".
I also find this "but what if someone else decides to take it too far?" to be a non-argument, unless you're willing to be a genuine libertine and argue from that position that all external authority and restrictions are wrong etc. But I don't find this potential "taking it too far" a problem compared to not having any standards at all. I've seen in my personal life and the places I've lived where that ends up.
You can also easily turn this against the entire communist movement/"project".
>But what if the community/collective/party/your homies at the commune decide to do something you don't like?Well, I dunno, talk to with them?
>Cost of restricting fiction is too costly compared to benefits.I'll raise the proliferation of non-pornographic slop as a counter-argument. But that aside.
>Since there is no actual harm done in fiction the benefit of repression achieves nothing."Fiction" has resulted in lynchings and honor killings in the past. Wars and genocides even. I know it's chique in some circles to claim it's all fake and it's only fiction, it's harmless fun, "it's just pictures", but it does, has had, and can have actual physical consequences.
>>2416125>Do you have examples? Not saying it's bullshit, but from what I've seen it appears to be entirely (rape) kink slop and a few racy LoversLab mods. Well there are some examples such as "He fucked the Girl Out of Me".
Article from:
https://mimidoshima.neocities.org/main/posts/2025/collectiveshout/
>This explains how adult media censorship can intersect with queer media censorship, even when said queer media is safe for work. Queer people are already viewed as too sexual by conservatives, and when groups with ties to the far right view sexuality as a threat, the livelihoods of queer people become tied to pornographic media. The right will not distinguish games that explore sex work and queer identity, like He Fucked the Girl Out of Me, from pornography. While it may be possible to distinguish obscenity from art in some philosophical forum, this idea is fundamentally absurd in practice. The right is more than happy to take down queer art and pornography simultaneously.
>In an age of fascist censorship, it doesn't matter if one can argue that some queer media has XYZ artistic value. It's just porn to these religious dogmatists; they're going after anything they deem to be degenerate art. This is a religious, moral crusade taking down any form of media that expresses sexuality and gender. That includes porn, and that includes queer art.Here’s who Collective Shout campaigned with to pressure payment processors into threatening Steam and Twitch: a Christian anti-porn/anti-LGBT organization, a conservative anti-porn/anti-LGBT organization, and a “gender-critical” (TERF) organization.
This isn’t about “going after rape games. ” or "About protecting women". It's about going after LGBT people and banning any sort of sexual expression.
Just because art makes you personally uncomfortable doesn't mean it can't have a legitimate purpose for someone else
CSAM is obviously not okay, but censors want to get rid of sex educational material too, works that explain to victims what happened to them and help them avoid getting sexually abused.
>>2415808It's a problem of empathy, broadly, is what I believe at this point.
I'd make my money in such a way, if I could.
Like, ask yourself. Really think about it. And then there is of course the fact this is (in the majority of cases) directed at women.
>>2416056boohoo
Sasha Grey (just recently remembered her existence), in addition to the obvious is also much more charming (whatever you wanna call it, and so on) than you, like I can tell. This is also a skill. If sports stars can get serious moolah why not other entertainers?
>>2416170>I think they have a solid point here too,It's a normal body type, doofus. You really agree with discriminating against an entire group of adult women because their adult bodies MIGHT be considered close to resembling illegal material if a nearsighted idiot squints really hard?
>But I don't find this potential "taking it too far" a problem compared to not having any standards at all.Yes, all those fictional imaginary characters need the protection that come from your standards.
>I've seen in my personal life and the places I've lived where that ends up. Bigger books? More A for Adult ratings?
>"Fiction" has resulted in lynchings and honor killings in the past. Wars and genocides even. Name one, just one novel that directly caused anything like that at all. Not a hoax that was passed as non-fiction but an actual novel acknowledged as fiction that caused a war or genocide.
>>2416220>see it gets dicey quickly…Not really, especially when you let private corporations decide what you can and can’t show. Should South Park be banned for showing cartoon genitals of kids? Should Game of Thrones be banned for depicting incest sex? Should Fear and Hunger be banned just for being Fear and Hunger? What about media that has characters be victims of rape, etc? Should these pieces of media be banned because it hurts your puritan sensiblities?
>But muh gooner gamesAnyone can claim their art is meant to condemn the thing they are showing. If it exists, it can be gooned to and no actual person is getting hurt by this. You have actual laws to criminalize pedophiles who hurt actual children and I'm pretty sure they didn't start because of gooner games.
>>2416208The turner diaries and the birth of a nation didn't cause white nationalist movements or racism. At best they got popular enough to change how white nationalists expressed themselves like with picking up KKK iconography.
Besides if he was arguing fiction can potentially persuade people and change their minds on various topics I could agree. But he seems to be arguing for a direct cause and effect relationship which is a childish mentality.
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>>2416208No. I'm referring to The Protocols, online racist ragebait, right wing "satire".
>>2416199The people complaining about the end of "flat chested women" in porn aren't doing so because they like actual "adult" women with that body type. It's entirely (from the few I personally know and have known who have expressed this preference) "petite" barely legal women. Who you know. Look like kids.
>Bigger books? More A for Adult ratings?No. Living the live of an actual lumpen criminal, but also seeing places like 4chan degenerate into rightoid brainrot.
>Not a hoax that was passed as non-fictionBut here's the thing, that's exactly how this works. They make up ridiculous elaborate fictions, pass them around as "memes" and "satire" and "jokes' or "artistic license", then accept it as actual proof of the "real thing". While claiming it's ironic until the point they feel they can stop pretending.
>>2416172Most of the critique hinges on the proponents of banning these types of games being reactionaries, but again, I don't see why that is relevant. (Broken clocks and all that) If the argument is the mentioned games do no represent the genre as a whole (adult games) why not state HFtGOOM is nothing like those examples?
>CSAM is obviously not okayBut in an era where one now generate content that looks like CSAM, why draw the line there? What if you can't tell the difference anymore between "the real thing" and the product of an algorithm? Why would Rapelay or No Mercy be okay, but not photorealistic generated AI videos and images resembling CSAM? There's no "victims" here either.
Look at least people like Camille Paglia are consistent in their stance on this. But I don't get people arguing everything is okay except "that" in an era where many people can't tell the difference anymore straight away.
Besides "self-policing" doesn't work if people can flood platforms with slop, and by extension "illegal material". We're going to need curation, and by extension gatekeeping more so than ever.
I'm not saying the discussion is over, or that I myself have a very clear, solid idea of where to draw the line. But I think there is a point where the line should be drawn. The "Free market place of ideas" doesn't work.
>>2416235I don't want to live in a culture where that shit is normalized, not because I think we need to "protect the children", but because it normalizes a lot of other fucked up shit as well which is a lot more bothersome.
Shouldn't be a surprise for example that a place like Pakistan, besides being a hotbed of childrape and prostitution, is also known for its honor killings, low status of women, terrible inequality, religious fundamentalism and intolerance, and rabid anti-communism.
Nor is it because I think sexual abuse of a kid, fictional or not, is somehow more uniquely "icky" than that of an adult. The veneration of "innocence" and "youth" is it's own kind of reactionary brainrot.
>>2416266>Puritan justificationsWhere?
>the most censorious societies are also the most "degenerate" for a reasonModern China? Is the DPRK degenerate too?
>>2416259>end of "flat chested women"Only Australia has made flat chested women illegal. They are the outlier. The point was that Australia took that ideology to a ridiculous extent compared to the rest of the world because the rest of the world actually distinguishes real adults.
>"petite" barely legal women. Who you know. Look like kids. "Barely legal women" are infact legal women by definition. If a large group of adults "look like kids" them maybe your definition of what a kid looks like is so flexible it covers large amount of adults then it isn't useful as criteria. That's why the most of the world, other than Australia, use actual age.
>They make up ridiculous elaborate fictions, pass them around as "memes" and "satire" and "jokes' or "artistic license", then accept it as actual proof of the "real thing". So what you are saying is that they have to take the step forward to pretending the fiction is in fact non-fiction for it to have real weight and persuasive power. You are mostly arguing for a disinformation law here.
>There's no "victims" here either.That's the real criteria. Actual victims. You and the liberals seem to confuse image with reality and believe the image of a victim is like an actual victim. And adult looks young therefore they have to get treated young. A computer generated a image of rape therefore it's like raped happened. But the computer generated image isn't reality and fiction isn't reality and no victim actually exists.
>>2416250Sam Hyde isn't funny though. It isn't right wing infighting, World Peace is good entertainment bait, but it wasn't funny, Hyde's "humor" is always just name dropping some right wing dog whistle.
The best right wing humor whether we admit it or not is crass and stupid and saying uyghur uyghur uyghur over and over. That's why Alex's stand up is the best thing released by MDE in years, it wasn't afraid to be openly racist.
Sam can't even critique Israel without calling it "Brazil" and that's why he's become more of a podcaster than he has a comedian.
Nick is also funnier because he actually CAN talk about anything but race and jews.
>>2416303anon, don't make me go to his loldead social media to see retarded fakes.
kthxbye.
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Oh well whatever
>>2415991>You shouldnt ban them since they don't have statistical connections to real world harm, and banning them would lead them to banning other stuff that's harmless< Bro you're just making excuses!\*Those games get banned, and now any games depicting mature themes is getting banned\*
< Well what about /pol/!Also btw,
>>2416125 doesn't mention it, but the group behind it literally defended cuties.
To use their reasoning, (and also all people defending the online safety act), you have to be a pedophile to for this censorship.
(inb4 you again go
>>2416134 "I considered this!!!!!" even though iut clearly has not contextualized your thinking, and you're just saying that to pretend you thought about it)
Video "related" since this is what you sound like: like ethan klein and his shtick of pretending to be pro-palestine
>>2415991>Go ahead and make a "socialist" argument in favor for this.The USSR didn't ban erotica books, made out of fantasies, and similar stuff.
there you go.
socialism isn't when you ban some games. socialism protects people from exploitation from the capital class, and there's no causation between people being more rapeish or violent because of videogames.
also, that's a whole of identity politics bullshit.
>>2415347What i'm guessing is that rapey spent a bunch of money on some 'P I' who simply read all the sarcastic stuff BE has said on his social media and presented it as truth to Rapey.
Rapey being the eternally waited on retard he is of course simply heard the same stuff regurgitated to him by a 'professional' and decided it must be true.
>>2417354Settler colonialism, Palestine:😠😠😠
Settler colonialism, Donbass:😍🥰🥰
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48 seconds ago
Chinese Communist do not promote Han Chinese nationalism at all. The entire Chinese Communist are an anti-HAN Chinese institution. Their entire domestic policy is ANTI-Han Chinese nationalism.
The Communists starting from the 1950s onward promoted affirmative action to non-Han Chinese people. They gave them extra privileges including more points to enter college.
The Communist also gave minorities the right to have as many births as possible, while Han Chinese births were restricted during the era of the 1 Child policy.
In mainland China, there is an unofficial two tier legal system. When ethnic minorities like Uighurs or Tibetans commit crimes, the court usually are easier to them and tries to accommodate them. This is called the "兩少一寬" TWO LESS ONE Leniency. This policy was enacted by Document No. 5 of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (1984).
Communist were the real definition of the word HANJIAN 漢奸. Han traitors. 漢 Han 奸 traitor
The real Han Nationalist and and hero of the Han Chinese was Dr. Sun Yat Sen and the early Kuomintang. Sun Yat Sen overthrew the Manchus. Then in 1924 finally proclaimed a policy of making all ethnic groups in China Han Chinese and sinicizing everyone.
In Three Principles of the people, Sun wrote, "Since the Qin and Han dynasties, China has always been a nation created by one nation. Speaking for the majority, the 400 million Chinese can be said to be all Han people. They share the same blood, the same language and writing, the same religion, the same customs, and are completely one nation."
The Kuomintang were the real Han Chinese Nationalists. Communists were and have always been National traitors and internationalists
>>2417454Nazi war in the Eastern Front was genocidal before the Soviet counterattack. Saying the Soviets went too far in the counterattack is Nazi whining about their comeuppance.
Also even ignoring all the evidence Nazis were actively holocausting people, they could have released the concentration camp prisoners long before to let them scrounge for food instead of keeping them trapped and completely unable to get any food. Nazis were responsible for their prisoners in the end no matter what.
>>2417462"Han" Chinese are on the same level as "White" Americans. A giant mix of dozens of ethnic groups pushed into a new collective identity over many years of purposeful cultural integration.
>>2417637The cold war Japanese regime purposefully downplayed how bad they and rest of Axis were during WW2. So now we get this.
>>2417643Phallus symbolism is historically normal. It's only because of the genital mutilating Abrahamics that it is no longer as common.
>>2417762Most of humanity has brown eyes so statistically brown eyed people will have a high chance of being important. Of course they will also be the bulk of the least important at the same time.
>>2417771He wanted clicks. Fascism is scarier and more interesting than a generic boring Right-wing. He also doesn't need to define anything to closely and can just ramble on whatever he wants.
And lol at him thinking AI art is inherently fascist because right wingers use it. It's a fucking computer program. Anyone can potentially feed it different information and use it as they see fit.
>>2417791I realize this is arguing semantics, but AI can't 'be' benevolent or racist, it's like saying a calculator is sexist since it can spell "boobs". The problem is that people are racist, especially those that frequently use AI I guess, so when the AI collects information to spell out letters it turns out racist.
Depending on your view (where the correct one is that racism is bad) it's just faulty and could be fixed, I don't know coding and shit so I have no idea how tho
>>2417758Y'know I was more wondering how they were gonna handle the rise of MAGA and Trump, and I think they did it perfectly with:
>"Hank and Peggy spent nearly two decades in Saudi Arabia and have no cultural reference for what's going on in America anymore"As for respecting Bush Jr, I thought his episode ended with him getting over the fact the guy had a limp handshake? Though truth be told I think Hank is just the kind of guy to give respect over some of the dumbest shit, like deregulating lawnmowers to allow for some deeper cut of the grass or whatever.
>>2418732Guess Glenn doesn't give a shit about thousands and thousands of people all around the world being put under
house arrest - that's the expression, Glenn, not "imprisoned at home", which sounds like a bad literal translation from a foreign language into English, and this guy is supposedly some big-dick award-winning journalist… - which is a legally permissible measure in Brasil as in almost every jurisdiction in the world, depending on local laws and actual circumstances.
And it's
De Moraes, not Mor
eas, Glenn you dumb cunt. "Authoritarian"? Is he pulling that out of his ass after his Brazilian husband dicks him very hard? "Sanctioned"? By who? Daddy Donny because he hurt Elon's feefees before Musk recalled Trump is a pedo and they had a fallout? And the judge was warning them to not mess up with Brazil and be careful not to use Shitter for some crazy Cucksonaro move?
Fuck off, Glenn. Fuck off.
>>2418790>Also, is he still married to his Mexican wife?Si mijo. Still going strong.
>What's up with Caleb, lately? Same old shit I think from what I've seen in ISG or wherever. Writing books, still doing weird seminars with his gang.
>>2418817Well, I remember even someone saying their marriage was only a cover-up for his presumed homosexuality and possibly to help her with her immigration status. If he's gay or bisexual, who cares, but if they married to help her being safe from a legal point of view, then based, absolutely based. Even more so in the era of the ICE-stapo and that zionist goblin put in charge of persecuting Mexicans by PedoDon.
In a way, I'm glad to know he's back on track, he's a cunt and he could have handled the whole "spankygate" situation better, but somehow I found some of his stuff fun and I guess he's going to give us some good entertaiment in the future, even if by pure accident. Maybe that whole situation blew up at the right moment and stopped him from doing some really sick shit. I hope that tought him a lesson in some way.
>>2418855Heck! I didn't know about GG doing shit like that! Also, I hope the rent boys are 18+ at least. But fuck, his husband his younger than him, handsome and he also has a political career on his own, if I remember correctly. That said, he always had a reputation as a dickhead.
Caleb was accused of inappropriate behaviour and possibly of exploiting some members of his org. I may be wrong, but I remember him asking to be spanked by a young trans female in his group or something similar and bringing up the subject of spanking quite often in conversations with other. Long story short, tho, no one pressed charges for anything.
>>2418995its really simple
go ask a chica for her number and she'll say "oh, I don't do that, can you add me on IG" and you'll go "I don't have social media" and they'll look at you like a leper.
It's less so now, but this was the standard for literally a decade. Everytime I've deleted IG, I've had to add it back because of this exact reason.
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