>>2762487This is Peak reddit behavior.
>>2762487indistinguishable from the actual protests
>>2761682unrelated but I thought you were going to stop using the juche flag?
oh no a flood
why is everything white
>>2762656to torture our eyes
>>2762667reddit lol happy april fool
Administrator the up and downvotes dont work.
>>2762673Yeah I threw this together in the last few days. Couldn't make them work.
Then again they interfere with the rest of the post layout, so I removed them.
Thank you for the response Administrator, it's the thought and effort that counts. Have a nice day.
dark mode doesn't work properly
this is hell on earth
My eyes are bleeding. Thank you.
get it, its like redddit, april fools, ha
>>2762559>bullet doesn’t matchInnocent.
Free my boy.
>>2763261>antisemitismyou should stay on reddit
>>2763301Difference is that systemic antisemitism isn't really all that much of an issue today unlike so in lenin his time, even worse it's all just used as a cludgel to keep murdering children.
If you ate a jew, you should have denounced and abandoned judaism as a whole by now, judaism has become indistinguishable of zionism at this point.
>>2763420Where does he say he's a leftist?
And who the fuck is clavicular?
>>2763301antisemitism was real back then, not now, you are epstein
>>2763422you are j-street
>>2763261anti-semitism is cringe, but pro-semitism is utterly indefensible and fucking the world up pretty bad.
>>2763446Wrong. You are KKK grand wizard. You are fascist collaborator. You are epstein.
Anyone watching Ludwig and Michael Reeve's journey to the north in China?
A lot of cultural exchange happening between the internet addicts of both countries
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGT0cEMIAze5tmNSlEvUKo-cQ0YrIs2j>>2763420That's kinda hot.
I have a feeling Clavicular secretly wants to be dommed.
Hopefully he accepts himself and stops pumping out reactionary algo slop.
>>2763420shoulda killed him tbh
>>2763420Bro looks so winded from the moment the clip starts. Why do all these roid heads think their stupid glamour muscles magically make them a trained fighter. Jesus.
>>2763577Member when that little MMA guy killed that bodybuilder in an impromptu street fight who was like twice his size lol.
https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/wshh57p20Y99sEGpLRx9/mma-fighter-kills-bodybuilding-champion-in-street-fight-caught-on-cctv >>2763634stop screencapping yourself and spamming your garbage here
EVERYTHING IS REDDIT NOW
>>2763674Who are these people?
>>2763688This is a lame line of argument because it's like pointing to plot holes in Harry Potter to argue that it's fiction. By even going that deep into it you're surrendering to the idea that it -could- be real if only it was written a little bit differently. It's totally unnecessary, it's fiction to begin with, it's all made-up, the content of it doesn't matter.
But the rabbi has to argue this way because he's trying to push his religion over another when they're all equally bullshit.
>>2763674It's so exhausting how people will have a handful of personal experiences and then insist on extrapolating that to the entire universe. Especially when they're projecting their own misery.
It's not wisdom, it's narcissism. We need fewer "main characters".
>>2764028Cum town. Or most of them anyways
>>2764106Lmao whatever dude, how many synagogues in europe- america are openly antizionist? How many european-american jews support the complete abolition of israel? You're delusional and anyone crying about antisemitism at this point is fully equal to a nazi german crying about jews destroying the great german state.
>>2764816You don't need to post every time this retard farts. Stop. Just stop.
>>2005272is hasan pecker a millionaire animal abuser or is he somehow redeemable
>>2764904He's just following the ancestral south chinese tradition, beating the dog improves the meat
>>2756727>>2757003>tur-danki didn't see that part of the text
rip to my late 2010's egoist anons
>>276535120 terminally online artists are of little interest to the pentagon
>>2765358Playing gooner bingo or arguing if Lenin would a bicycle.
Top priority for FBI surveillance.
>>2765357>>2765358>>2765360You say there's no way we could be important enough to warrant surveillance, but every time some invasion or intervention happens, we get flooded with neocon bots, so we are at the very least on some kind of list.
>>2765386I’ll just say that a FOIA request for leftypol would have interesting results.
>>2764113the delusional one is you thinking that israel and fascists white nationalists aren’t taking advantage of your desire to conflate judaism with zionism. nazis admire israel for their brutal genocide, and thanks to rhetoric like yours they are bringing it to western countries under the guise of immigration and law enforcement. people are dying in concentration camps and getting jailed for life, and i’m sure you wouldn’t mind that either, as long as it’s those russian saboteurs getting put away.
>>2765360I like how people think the USA government has limited resources when it comes to what they themself call terrorist adjacent ideology. Even if kamal won thrd be mfrs monitoring this shit the same way they do far rights. There's an entire economy on surveilling people like us. Some people that post here are definitely surveilled and probably bring most of the feds with them, we got multiple felons and arrestees posting here. Plus this a chan, feds dont even want chan ppl having guns unless they are gonna mk ultra them for a shooting imagine how little they want leftist incels with them
>>2765501Nazis do not admire Zionists, Nazis want to enforce their own laws on the rest of the world and put in ghettos everyone outside of their own race, while Zionists want to completely ignore the rest of the world's laws and put THEIR OWN race into one big ghetto (I thinks Israel encourages the rise of antisemitism worldwide on purpose to force the world's Jews into itself). They are sort of… opposites who reinforce each other, but lack self-awareness to realise this.
>>2765598>I thinks Israel encourages the rise of antisemitism worldwide on purpose to force the world's Jews into itselfI don't think it's really that intentional, it's more like they don't care or think all that much about Jews living in the Diaspora anyways. Also Israelis make fun of them and think they're kind of stupid. Israel is so full of meatheads. Like think of a rich airheaded "Jewish-American princess" from New Jersey. Here's an Israeli parody of a Jewish birthright trip (think this one touched enough of a nerve that they yeeted it off YouTube):
https://vimeo.com/35660324
>They are sort of… opposites who reinforce each other, but lack self-awareness to realise this.That can also be true.
>>2748558Adam is a bug that eats dust (derogatory)
>>2765598>Nazis do not admire ZionistsYou would be surprised anon
>>2765351not the first time the twitter account went viral by QRTing higher political figures
>>2763420clavicular is gay so he definitely enjoyed this
FRIENDLY REMINDER: if you side with science and technological progress, you are siding with brainrot, BCIs, taylorism, algorithmic manipulation, psychatriy, transhumanism, dopamine addiction, AI psychosis and the total eradication of human autonomy.
it doesn't matter if you are a leftist or a rightist, the outcome is the same.
>>2766299Kill yourself Kaczynskist subhuman
>>2766429Pretty dumb. Who's clavicular? Sounds like an industry plant.
>>2766274>Stop all trade with NATO countries>Don't sell military equipment to themIt's like saying "HEY LIBRULS, WATCH THIS!" And shooting yourself in the head.
>>2766429Lol so this time he just let the guy skip right to the choke hold instead of pathetically trying to fight him first? Is this him trying to save face?
>>2763420>Akshually, I love getting choked out!Actually, I don't doubt that faggot loves it.
>>2766274I have trust in Trump's rotting shithead to do it lol
>>2766705Where's the case number? I want proof
>>2766715Unironic critical support for the ACP grifters.
Michael Parenti's son:
>Obviously, Patel and Lenin are worlds apart. But they share an understanding of the nature of state power. In their view, form and function are intimately bound together. Patel knows he can’t simply lay hold of the “ready-made state machinery” and expect to steer in a new direction. The state is not an inanimate object. Rather, it is a collection of people, a social ecology, a “network of networks” with written and unwritten rules, layers of interest and, yes, a swampy geography.
>Patel is not a leftist, but he wants to radically reform agencies that have long oppressed the US left. Given the Bureau’s sordid history of targeting trade unions, peace activists, campus radicals, and black politicians (they just entrapped Chokwe Antar Lumumba, the left-wing mayor of Jackson, Miss.), the left should support pruning FBI power. Nor is there any likelihood of an AOC-led “new Church Committee” on the horizon any time soon.
>Sadly, the left will not support Patel. The vast majority of leftists don’t know the first thing about how the FBI suppressed the story of Hunter Biden’s laptop so as to tilt the 2020 election in Biden’s favor, and don’t want to learn. Patel could be the most radical FBI director in history, one whose reforms, intentionally or not, respond to decades of left-wing critiques of the Bureau’s abuses. But the left will almost certainly attack Patel as a fascist, ignore any detailed discussion of his plans, and thus, in effect, defend the FBI.
>As confirmation hearings approach, Patel is like that hockey player who has just dropped his stick, taken off his gloves, and is circling back toward that dirty, repeat-fouling opponent. What comes next is a hockey fight.
>>2767126>>2767124this aged like rancid milk i also have a vague memory of him getting involved iwth a left-case for the RFK campaign.
>>2766299I agree with most of those though
>>2766299>Friendly reminder: if you side with (buzzword) and (buzzword), you are siding with (buzzword) (buzzword) (buzzword) (buzzword) (buzzword) (buzzword) (buzzword) (buzzword), and (buzzword).And here we have the example of an Ameritard in his natural habitat - totally unable to conceptualize of events and issues using anything other than memes and cliches.
>>2766715So x is essentially fully fascist now right?I mean i remember it was shit when i was on it but now it seems even worse
>>2767197Like it genuinely looks unusable now so how do some people still use it?
>>2767195Why do you like Israel so much?
>>2767227Loomer is only saying this because she wants to justify Israel annexing Syria she doesn't give a fuck about syrian christians especially when most of them supported Assad (which Israel hated because he was part of le axis of le resistance).
>>2767242>defending loomers intentionsYou must be her agent
>>2767242israel preferred him since it meant that he was a bulwark against turkish interests, and a fodder for iranians and their military allies
>Agent Kochinski threatens to prolapse the anus of a woman who rejected his advances
<online left sleeps
>Agent Kochinski has a lolicon drawing on his pc
<OMG THIS IS SO DEPRAVED CANCEL HIM NOW
>>2767637no the world has moved on just like jason roo was popular around the same time
that guy hassan made the other breadtubers look like small time punks
>>2767646Hasan literally did the Voosh "Lenin would vote blue no matter who" shtick just a few months ago
>>2767641yeah he honestly should have been eviscerated the instance that became public knowledge and the fact he didn't because
>he said he sowry guys!!!and just moved on is a pretty big indictment
>>2767649remember seeing a clip of him violently going off on one of his viewer for pointing of the sus nature of grahm planter and misusing the words of lenin and it just making my blood boil like i dont think he is on porpose acting like a psyop but he is def being used like one lol
>>2767642jason was like an evil (as in reverse) version of Agent Kochinski if you think about
>>2767658Jason was Canada's best citizen journalist.
>>2767637He corrupted KKKeffals into liberalism and condemned KKKlanadian leftism forever …
>>2767729really? i got the impression that they (unfortunately) were influential on the "online left"
>>2767737is KKKeffals even still alive? if Agent Kochinski have vanished for her its like she never even existed
he took a break after the loli horse porn scandal and pretty much cratered, he still has a loyal fanbase of schizo sycophants and it's enough for him to get by, but know this, if you show loli horse porn on stream, you're politically dead.
>>2767738their prime has definitely passed when bernie lost the primary. they're still somewhat influential as hasan orbiters, but these people used to be literally feared by established pundits when it seemed like they were able to boost grassroots presidential campaigns and they would definitely have TV shows by now if Bernie had won.
He became less popular when Trump gutted USAID.
>>2767746perhaps bernie losing was a good thing after all…thank you hillary clinton
>>2767716Fanfiction
If a guy is going to a steakhouse he's not just ordering a fucking baked potato and salad, wtf lol.
And he wouldn't be there by himself, especially not as military, he would be with military buddies. Especially if he was in uniform instead of civilian clothes.
Also what kind of steakhouse has you sit at a bar instead of a table? And you order food from the bartender? Seems like two fake stories mixed together. Maybe originally it was beer instead of steak then he figured it sounded gay to buy another man he didn't know a drink.
>>2767751are you for real?
>>2767757What? That the story is fake? Or it's a joke and I got baited?
>>2767716third worldist mfs will say people in the military benefit from imperialism when they can't afford steak.
>>2767738Allegedly, they got most of the left to stop using “woke speak” and people are now less afraid of being blunt/using insults. That’s the main claim I’ve seen their defenders make, but I think that shift would’ve happened anyway, given how the culture was already evolving under Trump.
>>2767746>but these people used to be literally feared by established pundits when it seemed like they were able to boost grassroots presidential campaignsWhat the fuck are you even talking about? They hyped up a handful of barely significant meme DSA candidates who got a moment of traction and then did nothing and vanished off the face of the earth.
>>2767746>these people used to be literally feared by established pundits That's way overstated. Chapo were literally whos for establishment pundits and media. Hasan gets much more negativity from those types and politicians going on his stream can show up in attack ads.
>I used to see this man everywhere; he was like the king of leftism for a few years
Even at his zenith he was playing second fiddle also dude is a fucking glowie.
sage for /isg/ thread outside of /isg/ containment
>>2767868>>2767883>What the fuck are you even talking about?>That's way overstated.They literally talked that way about chapos, I'm not exaggerating. Maybe pundits were overstating the dirtbag/berniecrat menace in 2018-ish, but that's more or less how they viewed it. They were the top patreon earner for like half a decade and was vital for popularizing crowdsourced breadtube garbage. I know they politically didn't do anything, but pundits really felt them like a threat to their mediocre establishment careers.
>>2767980No one has ever been afraid of the “dirtbag left.” At most, people wrote them off as a handful of annoying irony-poisoned degenerates. I'm sure around 2018 there were a few recycled think pieces clutching their pearls about how they were a “bad image for the left” because that’s exactly the kind of low effort take late 2010s journalism thrived on but that didn’t make it true. No one in serious politics took them seriously then, and no thinks about them now. The only people still invested are their irony poisoned fans.
>>2767524>Is this cope?Probably not. But also saying Ukraine is in trouble is also not cope. Ukraine and Russia are literally tearing each other apart to the bones fighting this war
>>2767834the army is a form of welfare. the state doesn't maintain infrastructure, education, or heathcare to funnel slobs into service to make institutionalise dependent fascists that act like they're in starship troopers. the thing is there can be no sympathy with these inperial thugs: the ignorance and malice with which they brutalize the periphery is well known.
>>2767716>Sir, I…did they fuck later, what is this gay shit lol
>>2768004yanks malding. jiang's grifting but he is cribbing theory from international relations and foreign policy journals. easier to play the man than the ball. reject western left that can't conceive the end of US hegemony.
>>2767716>>2768056nothing so crass. he gave the kid a go on his morbidly obese wife.
>>2767637everyone knew he was a pedo long before the loli folder thing. he literally said on stream SEVERAL YEARS before the folder incident that "an adult and a child can have a sexual relationship that is beneficial to the child" ON STREAM, while LITERALLY PLAYING AS A CHILD IN A VIDEO GAME
>>2768101Meta implies effectiveness
>>2768106it is effective at getting you to go mask off and reveal what you always were
>>2768115>i drink third world worker blood to stay alivewe know
>>2767716Refering to a soldier as a kid is nauseating
>>2767637I don't care about communist men getting some pussy and being (((problematic)))
>waaah he raped meyeah ok FOID, I wont believe your lies, you are just trying to cause problems and call attention to yourself, I know what you are
>>2768074he's a schizophrenic pro-nazi grifter, kill yourself retard
>>2768117i think a lot of people just go "he was a heckin' member of isis!!! (he wasn't) and is definitely super pro israel!!! (he isn't)" when in reality it's a result of this odd ideological formation that emerged in the middle east in the post cold war period where al-qaeda members fought off breakaways like ISIS about as virulently as could be expected
"Leftists" when leftists are popular and not antisocial retards who spend their time on leftpol
Anyway how are we going to fix the damage caused by capitalism?
>>2768128I don't think anyone claimed that he had raped someone, he was just in goblin porn and other shit and people called him a degenerate and made fun of him.
>>2768117god why do we let these nasty people have so much unearned confidence
they should be afraid to say this shit
>>2768172more or less it's the fact that checks and balances in society are both eroded and never properly set up, there is nothing stopping this from occurring, there is no real accountability, if you look at say the 1970s, there was some sense of accountability, certain things you really shouldn't do or face major social consequences, so when these social systems began to erode, these people were able to say shit like this, and do what they wanted with minimal accountability, even compared to the relatively minor accountability from before
>>2767655Hasan literally said anyone who wouldn't vote blue no matter who for a centrist liberal democrat with a literal Nazi tattoo was being an infantile left communist
It don't care if he electrocuted his dog or not, it's that which made me realise what a joke he is, a nepo baby trying to funnel would be leftists into the Democrats yet call him out in leftist spaces like people rightly do to Agent Kochinski and you'll get dogpilled.
>>2768411>dogpilleddid you mean dog-piled?
>>2768411I still think that shit was really funny, it was the logical conclusion of leftists taking ultra and infantile out of context to mean a slur against any marxist who criticizes their strategy
>>2768594>2024-02-07i thought this was further back
>>2768411I hated Hasan until he electrocuted that dog, now I critically support him.
>>2767642Jason Unruhe was never popular. The clicks he got were always terrible, nobody actually watched his content. The thing is that he was one of the first communist YouTubers around, that's how people knew about him.
>>2767742I mean you have to appreciate the grift. Scamming your entire community, making some six digits and then disappearing.
>>2768621Idk, this shit was funny the first time around, but now it's completly played out, every other celebrity scams nowadays, and some people are stupid enough to fall for it every time.
>>2768671Dugin is just a retarded fascist like his friend putin
>>2768716from what i heard its a big tent of rightoids from lolbertarains, volkish nationalists, crypto-hitlerists and atlanticists. so duggin so retarted and should get a fell for it again award after he supported trump.
I've heard it theorised recently that Jiang isn't just a grifter, but is actually a CIA asset being used to push MAGA schizo bs.
He pretends to be Chinese when he's American (his family moved to the US when he was a toddler), he fakes his accent (and he didn't even begin to learn Mandarin until college).
He has links to right wing, anti-China organizations which have links to US intelligence.
There's a blank spot in his career / life history from 1995-2009 for which there's no public information as to wtf he was doing.
While he did move from the US to China to teach maths at a school for a period he has never been a professor.
He's also of course incredibly pro-Israel.
What do you think? Does he glow?
>>2768447Sorry, I made a Freudian slip
>>2768770of course he glows, watch the latest s4a
>>2766715Critical support for the FBI.
>>2755947What's the name of this book
>>2769213>>2769216Why don't you just take 10.seconds and look for yourself? It's not there. You people fucking suck.
>>2769219I remember guys like Richard Spencer in that alt-right clique where guys like sargon hung out, complaining in 2015 that Trump had gone neocon when he bombed the syrian airbase, and he spent the whole term being Bush II or III. this is just wilful ignorance.
>>2769217"The Search for Modern China" by Jonathan Spence.
>>2769290Its funny how theres several different MAGA accounts that are vitrually the same
>>2769290lmao is the internet nothing but ragebaiting and doomscrolling these days?
>>2769290>>2769293>>2769350It's all just Palantir and OpenAI bots interacting with each other and inflating the engagement. No one I know actually follows rightoid rage bait accounts.
>>2769290Whys he complaining? Isn’t this what he wants? He thinks Musk is a genius.
>>2769464If you follow through with the article on that, overall engagement is also still going down. Not as dramatically as it was right after Musk took over, but it is still on a downward slope. Bluesky is also losing users after gaining a bunch.
>>2769290Insane. Guy was lurking /leftypol/ 5 years ago and now he's this.
>>2769697was lib silver ever on leftypol?
>>2767729The funny thing is, despite the then modern rhetoric, they’re basically a throwback to a really specific kind of Western politics you used to see in the 90's, think Bill Maher, Matt Stone/Trey Parker and of course George Carlin. It’s that vague liberal-libertarian vibe where politics is dumb and not worth caring about, except for a few really specific things(drugs, porn, fast-food) they’re super intense about. And if you disagree with those, suddenly you’re a fascist.
>>2769180Unlike Hasan at least they were at least honest that their politics basically boiled down to wanting legalized drugs and some form of healthcare. Those were their entire political convictions.
>>2769798>outside of raunchy sense of humor i don't think the chapo guys fit exactly into thisIn what they weren't? their entire worldview and cultural understanding are clearly shaped by edgy 90's stand-up comedians, that’s how they interpret the world, consume movies and interact with people
recently every time i tune into hasan he's covering other people talking about him. mf never covers news anymore. it's all just narcissistic wankery
>Exclusive: FBI’s New Political Pre-Crime CenterAre your views on the list of 'domestic terrorism' indicators?
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbis-new-political-pre-crime-centerTake a look at this
Why is it that the bourgeoisie want Asmongold of all people to be the newest zoomer pope? Like cr1tikal used to be it, but he was just a scraggly guy, but Asmongold is like a literal untermensch. I suppose they are going to try to use some sort of human battery system to power AI robots or something, but LLMs have largely been a major disappointment when it comes to actually replacing human labor, so what exactly is even the point of retarding the minds of young men? You still need some intellectuals even if they are psuedo and the world is ran by what the right calls "midwits" for the most part anyways. So what exactly is the whole scheme here?
>>2768770Jiang has never lived in the usa in his life. He lived in Canada. Now he lives in china again
>>2770431I don't know, have you tried looking into transcripts of the bourgeoisie meetings when this was discussed?
>>2768770Also Jiang is very anti Israel. His whole focus is shitting all over Israel. Idk how you interpreted him as pro Israel. But of course since you believed he was raised in the usa I can tell you are not familiar with the guy at all and just going off stuff you heard
>>2770597
I am too bust appreciating everything going the correct general direction
>>2768770yeah he's being pushed to the top of the algo at a moment when class consciousness is re emerging in the USA. it's actually perfect. the public revolts against US foreign policy, but the scapegoats are already in place, as well as the false antidote.
The scapegoat: Communism, which people like Jiang insist is "Jewish". It is easy for the ruling class to say "Communism is Jewish, therefore Communism caused the US to serve Israel. therefore communism must be rejected." but they have to say it through a seemingly "grassroots" and "organic" figure like "professor" Jiang.
Then they can take all the negative energy of the US public coming out against US foreign policy, which could have potentially turned communist, and turn it into a fascist movement to remove "jewish communist" influence from the USA, since "jewish communism" will have been determined by the drooling easily brainwashed US masses to have "caused" the US to "serve" israel. all they need is more Jiang and Fuentes pushed in their algo for a few years.
>>2770698Israel and the US unofficially push antisemitic rhetoric precisely because it keeps people away from class consciousness, just look at the state of X, IG, etc. The big social media platforms are all owned by US/Israeli billionaires and they publicly announced that antisemitism was precisely the reason why they bought them. However, it wasn't to ban antisemitic speech, but to stoke it further in the direction that best serves them. Nazism is at an all-time high in the west, especially in the younger generations. We're already seeing the effects, even right here on leftypol. If you accuse people of fascism here then plenty of even non-raiders will call you an imperialist or an Israeli etc.
>>2770712incel threads go on siberia my friend
>>2770715Not a thread newfaggot.
>>2770716>Not a thread newfaggot.sorry, my mistake. your incel post goes on siberia.
>>2770704>Israel and the US unofficially push antisemitic rhetoric precisely because it keeps people away from class consciousnessalso because it scares more jews into thinking israel is necessary
>>2770436yeah he's not US gov-aligned he's just a useful idiot. algo pushes you to the top for being stupid
>>2761157permanently necessary vs necessary for a transitional period
>>2761175>in front of a poster with the founder of zionism theodor herzlLOL
>>2761344all this lib cope for a loser reactoid who got shot.
>n-nobody would ever shoot someone who had it coming!!!liberals literally believe this
>>2761157I've noticed anarchists always accuse MLs of just being red capitalists, but communists always accuse anarchists of just being lumpen larpers or, if they actually take power, people who slowly reinvent leninism once they actually have to grapple with the contradictions of holding power and not losing it
>>2770752Most ML criticism of anarchists is that they're liberals, or that they're idealists.
>>2770712I would date her.
>>2770712>>2770777She and the other women complaining about dating are all chasing after the same few men, who obviously cannot give them all the attention they desire
>>2768770likely a schizo who appeared naturally, like QAnon
maybe he is being promoted over more sensible perspectives to damage opposition to the war
>>2770771that's a bold claim. evidence?
>>2770695That loser calls china capitalist. I dont give a fuck what he has to say. I am familiar with that loser and unfamiliar with professor, but unless professor also says china is capitalist, professor more qualified than that loser.
>>2770922>That loser calls china capitalist. I dont give a fuck what he has to say. most of what he does is provide audiobooks. i don't like his trashing of china, but he seems to have taken a lighter tone on that lately. i like china and think it is socialist but i would hardly throw the baby out with the bathwater in terms of this guy's analysis because he has 1 opinion i disagree with. that's an emotional approach to things.
>I am familiar with that loser and unfamiliar with professorhe is not a professor, he is a high school teacher from canada who does holocaust denial, creationism, evolution denial, and claims communism was a bourgeois plot to destroy socialism. he is increasingly popular because the bourgeoisie use their algorithms to push his confused nonsense. sort of like a resurrected jordan peterson.
>but unless professor also says china is capitalisthe takes an even harsher tone on china than s4a does, and s4a actually criticizes him for it
>professor more qualified than that loser.your premise doesn't lead to your conclusion. someone who is wrong about 1 thing and right about 99 things is not inferior to someone who is wrong about 100 things just because you really care about that 1 thing and haven't bothered to investigate that the latter is also wrong about that same thing.
>>2770437I don't know, but what I realized is have zoomers outgrown the need for a pope of their generation? I have saw some of them trash Acid Bath for being mainstream and I kind of wonder if at least some of them are becoming hipsters. Considering the reports of zoomer men claiming to be "liberal" is up, I can certainly see that the zoomer pope era might be over but I am rather tentative that this is the case. However mainstream media is still going to believe that this is the case and kind of misread the situation and I do believe that overall zoomer trend of prefering more mainstream shit over being a hipster will still be around but eh. Poptimism is dead at the very least, Kanye and Taylor Swift both killed it.
>>2770922has class been abolished in the PRC?
>>2770933not enough industry even tho its the number one manufacturer of the world o algo
>>2770712the price of oil is fucking skyrocketing I don't care about what some fat hoe has to say, I don't care what any incel has to say either.
FIX THE ECONOMY SO WE CAN GO BACK TO COMPLAINING ABOUT SHIT THAT DOESN'T MATTER, PLEASE I BEG YOU, SOMEONE ASSASINATE TRUMP AND INSTALL A COMMUNIST DICTATOR NOW!!!!!
>>2770922Why are dengkiddies so bitchmade?
>>2770695liberals exposing liberals. more at 11
>>2770927Where does he deny the holocaust? I look at socialism for all video and its just a bunch of incoherant dumb shit. Professor says "Communism springs from capitalism." Socialism for all pauses and says, "No, Communism springs from contradictions of capitalism." Then s4all babbles about basic marxism for minutes end. Dumb pedantic shit. This is all of the video and makes it incoherant.
If this professor is really so bad, why is the entire video just incoherant babbling? I need more concise proof of his crimes
>>2771065>Dumb pedantic shit.Are you american? Be honest.
>>2771407This is based. Lib spectacle general showing their ass again
One thing thing I've noticed about neo-chuds is that they only really seem to be into cruel comics about pwning their ops or the schlockiest or saccherine stuff like moe anime or the newest super mario movie. I just think reactionaries can't really handle a more balanced or serious mood.
>>2771423Are they still going on about that Ukranian lady who got shanked or have they dropped her? Not that I'd be surprised at all if they did
>>2771407Pretty based. Meanwhile breadtube can't even bring itself to condemn Epstein or the Gaza genocide for that matter.
>>2771423They like more pulpy stuff because the good guy is good because he's the protag and good, but also gets to rape women and do a little lynchings for fun
>>2771502>breadtube who is breadtube, give me concrete examples
>>2772168Really glad I never fell for hasan smears like other hasbara minded retards
it's all so orchestrated now
>>2771065it's incredibly obvious what you're doing
>>2772227PhilosophyTube, Contrapoints, HBomberguy, among others.
>>2771502>>2771414>>2771407looks like the gayest ad for a republican congressperson
you know the ones where they walk around with a gun and shoot a car labeled COMMUNISM
>>2772263>looks like the gayest ad for a republican congressperson>you know the ones where they walk around with a gun and shoot a car labeled COMMUNISMOmg, could it be, could it be that this was the whole fucking point? Amazing, you got it. Here is a cookie for you.
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/04/07/negative-views-of-israel-netanyahu-continue-to-rise-among-americans-especially-young-people/>>2772247are you proud to admit that's what you're competing with
the majority of the people who justifiably shat on contrapoints would get called slurs by acp anyway
>>2772266>Omg, could it be, could it be that this was the whole fucking point? Amazing, you got it. Here is a cookie for you.I'm saying it's FUCKING STUPID MASTURBATORY SHIT that encompasses the problem with these dorks
ZOMG THEY TOOK SELFIES RIDING HORSES I THE DESERT
>>2772272Please post this in Iran thread as well
>>2772282>justifiably shatWhat do you mean, why are you speaking in the past? She still hasn't made a single post condemning Gaza or the Iran war and she hasn't adressed her pro-Epstein tweets at all.
>I'm saying it's FUCKING STUPID MASTURBATORY SHIT that encompasses the problem with these dorksZOMG THEY TOOK SELFIES RIDING HORSES I THE DESERT
You are not their audience. Is this so difficult to grasp you narcissist?
>>2772311I don't give a shit about contra, she sucks
>You are not their audience. Is this so difficult to grasp you narcissist?Their audience are five 4chan teenagers in a discord and white guys who would just call them communist shitskins and people who probably don't want shit that reminds them of what they're trying to leave ie republican larp
>>2772344I don't know what's more pathetic, you being someone whose entire political animus seems to be motivated by spite or the ACP unironical being the most successful domestic American leftist org in 50 years. Either of those things doesn't reflect well.
>>2772357>ACP unironical being the most successful domestic American leftist org in 50 yearsYou're not fooling anyone
>>2772375Damn, you don't even have any arguments, you'll just use kindergarten tier comebacks and think you are convincing anyone.
I love right wing tailism
I am an American leftist. I love the democratic party Hasanabi, Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton.
>>2772225No wonder men are flocking to the right they get to have fun. I guess left men just have to eat their veggies.
>>2771069Revisionism4all didnt even know who the professor was before he booted stream. The first hour is him reading and talking with chat about his wikipedia page and the rest is him yammering for hours about tons of shit no one cares about. R4all is american. When accusing someone of holocaust denial and fascism, one should lead with evidence of that.
>>2772468>No wonder men are flocking to the right they get to have fun.yeah I love being surrounded by clinically depressed incels telling you xyz is degenerate and that talking to women is gay and praxis being pumping tweets in the algo
>>2772468men are flocking to the right because the right tells them "once we're in power, we'll fulfill all your desires" and they aren't capable of understanding when they're being lied to
>>2772470You are flailing
>>2772496Meanwhile the left is clinically depressed incels telling you that liking xyz is bourgeois, talking to women is a microagression and bumping Xeets and Breadtube videos on the algo is praxis.
>>2772812
This has literally never happened
>>2772470the high school teacher you keep calling "the professor" is more anti-china than s4a. so if that's the most important issue to you why do you keep jumping on grenades for the fascist clown?
I watch this and i think they are misinterpreting him. Professor jiang says that he is presenting no concrete evidence of the holocaust, that the only evidence of the holocaust he is presenting is specific excerpt from hitler speeches and texts which Jiang is analyzing where Hitler literally speaks about exterminating jews from europe, and breadtuber bandwagon milking algorithm use this 5 second clip to slander jiang as holocaust denier.
To clairify, jiang was saying that that excerpt was the only evidence of the holocaust from the speeches and texts he was then analyzing, not that that speech excerpt was literally the only evidence of the holocaust in existence.
Professor jiang reads hitler speech verbatim where he talks about international jewish banks and explains hitlerite ideology, and scores of breadtubers use this to slander him saying hitler was anti-private banks and anti-imperialist. Jiang reads hitler speech verbatim where hitler says he is antiwar and breadtubers say jiang said hitler is anti-war.
https://youtu.be/3GCfNcHdudQ?si=9bJhES753cK-8SRv>>2773035ideologymaxxers are incapable of thought beyond mere base communication
>>2773035who the fuck cares? also learn english.
>>2773035can you shut the fuck up, like ever? you're in every thread and you're always wrong about everything.
>>2773035There's no need to debate whether jiang is a nazi, he's a larouchite, which is a form of nazism
>>2773140>muh taxpayer moneyAmerilard cattle's outrage at their government bombmng an elementary school: I DIDN'T GET MUH ROI
>>2773011He is anti american. Honest bourgeois ideologist who hate america are better than trotskyism4all. Trotskyitsm4all literally is an american.
>>2773084You know im right and that you have no rebuttal of substance so you resort to ad hominem to protect revisionism4all. You confuse me with someone else in your sheer paranoid delusion, all to attack innocent men. I dont care if he isnt a real professor, he earn my accreditation for correctly says iran will win
I ask again. Where is the evidence this man is a nazi? Because he called communism a scam? How is he larouchite?
You liberals dogpile with cognitively meaningless posts of single line insult, which is considered bannable offense. You call innocent man antisemite like youre aipac because 10 bread youtubers made the same video.
>>2773303That's tame, just something that fits a screenshot
He steals marx's theory of value and class war, washes it in mystical woowoo, and then a few episodes later calls marx a jewish satanic cultist while praising bakunin
>>2773210gem actually, this is hegelian christ-soc synthesis
One of the more annoying chud archetypes I am starting to notice is the obvious dyel/no-cardio vaguely furry or otherwise nerdy presenting guy who mostly bitches about indie animation while sucking off gacha games
>>2771543>dead manDid he get hit by a missile while he was chilling on the Tel Aviv beach?
>>2773887You could have just said /v/irgin
what is/was gamergate and why is it important
>>2773968a movement for ethics in video games journalism
>>2773968The Conservative Revolution of our generation. The Ernst Jüngers and Oswald Spenglers of our time were forged through fire and blood in that most noble crusade.
>>2773301Professor jiang is correct in saying yankee and anglo business did take place during civil war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Hammer#:~:text=After%20leaving%20Columbia%20Medical%20School,Drug's%20representative%20in%20Soviet%20Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_Trade_Agreement#:~:text=The%20Anglo%2DSoviet%20Trade%20Agreement,were%20open%20to%20British%20ships.
>>2773336Please provide this supposed video. I ask for thousandth time. I provide video. While westerner leftists complain about airport wait times and support airport nazi police workers' pay efforts, Here, Jiang combats imperialist myopia and puts things into perspective, which westernern leftists always unite to oppose.
Opponents of western leftism, like jiang and mao, remove all woo woo from marxism. Orthodox marx theory of value and class struggle largely is a bunch of woo woo which does not apply to imperialist society—see their Communist Parties—Jiang recognize this. That why Leninism and jiang's anti-Communist third worldism is distinct from the racist, colonial, and anti-semetic marxism, like how Marx called a fellow socialist the N word antisemetically! If anyone is the anti-semite, its Marx! See antisemetism in marx on jewish question. You slander professor jiang only because he exposes the evil of marx and his western disciples. I hope you understand
>>2773968the best games journalism was done by anita sarkeesian, but gamergaters hate her?
It just seems like MRA for video games.
Please provide evidence to the contrary
>>2773968gamergate is not important, don't worry about it
>>2774007In "capital of evil" he paraphrases exploitation of labor, class war and labor power, but frames it in terms of "attention"
Later in the series he describes a cult of incestous jewish satanic materialists who control the world called sabbatean frankists, and insinuates that either marx or engels were one of them.
>>2774007He's not a professor.
>>2773010Jim has to do this because it's the only thing keeping him even remotely relevant after everyone realized how fucking lame and parasocial the whole brand of kiwi farms/internet bloodsports "lolcow culture" shit actually is
>>2774007>>2774061>>2773301S4A bodied this freak recently
>>2768572Profoundly unfunny
ethan klein is finally suing noah samsen
Kavernackle made ANOTHER video crying about professor jiang, struggling to argue against old professor jiang clips. Without real criticisms, Kavernackle compares professor jiang to jordan peterson in dishonest effort to discredit him. Kavernackle paid by google to engage in protracted campaign to frame innocent man as antisemetic, but is surprised when masses deem him mossad. Professor jiang UNLOADS UPON all the israeli agents who cry, "He's not real professor." Like revisionism4all, kavernackle calls china capitalist.
https://youtu.be/whBuPYrqA1s?si=sCG0BYjpY6P6oz0K Kavernackle says he supports "taiwanese self determination."
https://youtu.be/mDMjzIhHB_Y?si=Gzx9HEwr7oTH8TeoStop the dogpiling and realize that every sinophobe Anti-Communist western left-iberal breadtuber has united to attack professor jiang.
>>2774061Letters from Marx and engels prove they let some racist phrenologist feel their skulls in order to join some kind of secret society. Perhaps that is what professor jiang speaks of. I think you should research marx before you so quickly ride breadtube bandwagon.
>>2774434Why the fuck is he suing Noah?
>>2774007>jiang's anti-Communist third worldismI thought Chinese people were all supposed to be smart.
>>2774554he's kkkanadian really
>>2773465this is so fucking funny
>>2773465sounds like that guy idubbz made fun of
>>2774481Wow, is the Frankist Illuminati conspiring to attack innocent Jiang?
>>2774992Yes it is the same guy.
>>2774992>Capitalism has become so undeniably dogshit that even rightoids nowdays want to become center-left social demonkkkrats because they understand how stupid the bourgeoisie are.At the current rate of capitalist decay we will have the first Antifa Communist Super Soldiers in Anglo-world (the West) ready by 2040.
>>2775406american beauty is kino and the matrix is great as far as action flicks go
>muh anti-societyyou are the same as the conservacucks that burned rap records like a bunch of retarded hysterics, go listen to christian rock or something
>>2775409I rewatched the full matrix series recently, my rates -
Matrix 1 - 6/10
2 - 2/10
3 - 1/10
>>2776599>rant against dengismbased
>>2774796Zionism gives you brain damage
>>2776705It would have been nice if he died instead.
>>2776705Its to be expected that schizo retards target him.
>democrats being reactionaries
oh wow who could've guessed
>>2776754>Piker said 'America deserved 9/11'unlike boomer American labor aristocrats, Zoomers under late capitalism are not bribed by their pensions and 401k finance funds. They have no material class interest to be imperialists, and instead immediately saw the truth when they found out that the 9/11 destruction of the World Child Trade Center was an explicitly anti-Zionist attack, explicitly an assault on the Jeffrey Epstein class of finance imperialists
https://xcancel.com/yashar/status/1724942399431217457<Over the past 24 hours, thousands of TikToks (at least) have been posted where people share how they just read Bin Laden’s infamous "Letter to America," in which he explained why he attacked the United States.<Many of them say that reading the letter has opened their eyes, and they’ll never see geopolitical matters the same way again.<The Guardian had a copy of “Letter to America” posted, but once these TikToks went viral, the Guardian took it down, which has only led to more interest in the letter and conspiracies from TikTokers who say this is part of the media and the powers that control it trying to silence the truth.Zionist media
That's why they stole TikTok, and probably to steal their actually enjoyable algorithm so that these uncreative soulless technocrats like Zucc et al could make better quality goyslop AI content
>celebrates 9/11no that's the dancing Israelis and probably every Zionist who begs for more wars to destabilize humanity so they could build Greater Israel
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/
>Rick Scottneoliberal Zionists only care about one thing: denying healthcare to children while stealing their national wealth, that's it
https://www.floridafiles.com/post/how-the-ceo-behind-the-largest-medicare-fraud-in-history-became-florida-s-governor-senator >>2776905POV: You cut your daughters discord access and her alpha hasn't heard from his kitten all day
>>2770783As someone that dealt with dating apps, I think it really has more to do with the apps than the people on it. It's kind of incredible how they're designed to frustrate your efforts to use them for their (allegedly) intended purpose.
The dating dynamic is fucked because there's nowhere to go and nothing to do without paying out the nose, and the go-to tech solution is designed to make solving that problem as time consuming and frustrating as possible, even if you give in and pay for it.
And I know how fucked the tinder-ification of online dating has made shit, because I've had plenty of experience with it before and after.
Blaming the people is just a scapegoat for the fact that things IRL and OL are severely fucked, just straight fucked all up to hell.
>>2777311oh kiss my ass with that shit man, you're a fucking cargo cultist.
>>2776599>>2777376>someone already post it fuk
Am I the only one skeptical of "The Epstein Class"? I don't think this type of phrasing helps communists in the long run. The enemy is the capitalist class.
>>2777496You defend the capitalist pigs. You are the same as a mAGA supporter.
>>2777491it is not about a narrative that works in the long run but one that sets up a pipeline. memes, like the public's fixation on epstein, are all ephemeral
>>2777491Framing capitalists as 'Epsteinites' gets you more attention and is better agitprop than just talking about the Bourgeoisie in ways that have been thoroughly disarmed by a hundred years of capitalist propaganda.
On another note, this is why i kinda like the term 'clanker'. It's easy, loaded terms you have to then use to educate people about the actual structural and systemic problems and contradictions they refer to.
>>2777491First time in like 70 years where 'X Class' describing capitalists is popular again instead of shitty and purposely nebulous terms like elite or establishment and thus uygha is unironically complaining. smhfam.
>>2777491yes
>>2777512nah that anon has a point.
>but people are saying class againprecisely, but they are conveniently saying it in a way that does not highlight exploitation, surplus value, bourgeoisie, class rule, or class struggle. even the bourgeois reactionary feels comfortable saying "epstein class" because it absolves all the bourgeoisie except for the ones who specifically flew to epstein island. it is not a class conscious term, in fact it dilutes the meaning of "class" to the point of meaninglessness.
>>2777513Epstein class is superior propaganda term than the word bourgeoisie itself
>>2777514it is propaganda against the pedophile bourgeoisie rather than the bourgeoisie in general.
>but all bourgeoisie are pedophilesthe majority of people saying "epstein class" don't believe that or even know what the bourgeoisie is.
These are people who cheer when a multimillionaire rapper (Kendrick) calls another multimillionaire rapper (Drake) a pedophile.
It is not a serious or precise term. Go ahead and keep using it. I don't care. Just don't expect an ounce of class consciousness to come out of it. The petty bourgeois reactionary feels perfectly comfortable saying "Epstein class" because he feels he is not the target.
>>2777513>>2777515>Class conciousness arises from repeating the term 'class' (implicitly as it is used by Marx in his analysis of social relations in class societies) ad nauseamDamn i wonder why we don't live in fully automated luxury communism with brilliant minds like you.
>>2777520that is not the argument i am making, if anything that is the argument anon is was making when he was giddy at the term "epstein class" because
at least people are saying class again >>2777515>The petty bourgeois reactionary feels perfectly comfortable saying "Epstein class" because he feels he is not the target.It's petit-bourgeois radicalism
>>2776905>my name is harry dresden motherfucker, open the doorLOL
<The Dresden Files is a series of novels by Jim Butcher featuring Harry Dresden, a wizard and private investigator in Chicago. >>2777491you are not the only one.
>>2776905this is too good it looks acted, america is the world circus
>>2777086He looks like hes been frozen.
>>2776905This is absolutely a skit right. I don't believe this is real at all
>>2775406Are you retarded or what? The movie is obviously not saying D-FENS is justified.
Every time I see Israel flag players in Overwatch I put them in my avoid list. Am I doing anti-imperialism right?
>>2777491From the left, it's vacuous populism based on the assumption that the proletariat is too retarded to recognize class struggle unless you frame it in terms of pedophilia. The whole Epstein thing was conspiracy entertainment basically. There are countries, like the UK, where this case resulted in prosecutions for the epsteinites. Did that change anything at all? Did the awareness of this conspiracy lead anyone to seriously think about political organizing? Seemingly it just strengthened schizophrenic nationalist nihilism and gave it a bit more of the spicy tinge of antisemitism.
>>2777593Someone said jimmie dore was talking to Professor Jian about the Epstein files and he had a breakdown because it showed the ruling class was too powerful and evil. Far from radicalising people its just made them more depressed and apathetic like jimmie
>>2777602Looks pretty fascistic to me
Why is this guy defending prof. fascist so hard?
>>2774992It's the same guy. He also had a longer back and forth with FinnishBolshevik.
>that movie guyJack Angstreich. total dork, but he made AA lose his shit completely. All time classic
>>2776905Why does it seem like the chudjak phenotype is the most common phenotype? Even I kind of look like that and it seems to go across all racial, ethnic and even gender groups?
>>2777491when talking to an ML i say bourgeoise or capitalist class when speaking to my fellow low autism score americans who have no clue about anything i say epstein class cuz it gets the point across
>>2777602"Professor" Jiang is pretty straightforwardly a fascist, he's just also an airhead so people don't take the fascism seriously. People don't think of fascism as an ideology but as a type of government with a flamboyant bigot in charge. Jiang is too low key to read as fascist to most people, even as he denies the holocaust and talks about the epic Germanic racial destiny.
>>2774529Jewish supremacism is real and denying it is a problem, but this argument bad empanada always resorts to that antisemitism doesn't exist at all is way worse imo. It's possible and common for people who suffer oppression in one context to be oppressors in another. The notion that Jews are oppressors only because a majority have some favorable view of Israel is both wrong and spreads antisemitism,
which is in the interests of Israel because antisemitism pressures diasporic Jews to move to Israel.
>>2777894I understand you're a channer and therefore have never appealed to anyone but sometimes you have to do that kind of rhetorical fib when trying to sway people to your argument.
>>2777928>>2777894>>2777931You're right, but other anon is right in that it's important to pick your battles,
>>2777959The only reason marx said that is because he was only getting exiled repeatedly, if everyone around him were summarily executed instead he would've shat his pants
>>2778049Oh fuck off. Most of the leading Bolsheviks were noble's sons with rich daddies.
Maybe if the revolution was gonna happen tomorrow I would stick my neck out but like I'm gonna go get sent to prison for this dead left?
>>2778057Well instead of getting a masters in semiotics of hermeneutic cultural critique theory, the modern equivalent of nobles sons (student protesters) could build a mass org that would cushion such risks
Like the bolsheviks did
>>2778070>harry dresdenYou're kidding
>>2778071like 45% of people go to college dipshit, not exactly the societal elite is it. i work for a living, i can't get arrested. fuck yourself
>>2777705it's just a shaved man with glasses, a slightly small chin, and nasolabial folds (i.e. "droopy cheeks") which you are more likely to get when having a shorter chin anyway. It's not that big of deal. Glasses are common. Small chins are common. Droopy cheeks are common. Shaving is common. Combine all 4 and you have the "chudjak"
>>2777894what is a leftoid in your opinion because i consider myself one and never ever ever have i denied that the US military is all volunteer? nor do I even shill the mistaken notion that "muh poverty draft" is the primary driving force behind people joining
>>2778145>the 45% that comprises the US labor aristocracy attends liberal networking and indoctrination institutionsSurprised pikachu
>>2778182Everyone lenin named in infantile disorder and marx named in the manifesto as philistines
>>2778070Solano county? I thought it was going to be Southern California but I guess it's around the bay area instead. You could just tell by looking at the video that it was California.
>>2778315Yeah, you are right, those graphs do look all awful, barring the last one. The 4th one doesnt even add up to 100!
Here is another graph that looks like an actual graph, not "contend" created for instagram.
>>2778329Yep, a 3 way split between labor aristocrats, petty bourgs and haute bourgs
But of course the aforementioned 45% with college degrees are all in the bottom 50% I'm sure
>>2777602>10 or 20 hours>looks inside>2 hours of casually talking about several things while trying to make it through one of his cringe lecturesstop simping so hard for this retard who says marx was a bourgeois psy op
>>2777608because he's 17 and someone insulted his daddy figure
>>2776905>>2778070why did this guy show up without a gun if he thought he was doing some vigilante shit and saving some girl? didn't he watch taxi driver?
>>2778392
>hitler said stuff in his heckin book
and then he sent 60,000 jewish settlers to palestine in the haavara agreement and then kept doing so even after 1938, while his staff advised him otherwise. what matters more: words or actions?
anyway nazism is just zionism for germans
i wonder if the nazi faggot and the jiang dickrider is the same anon
I'm a trot. Are you guys going to heckin report me?
>>2778402Trotsky's love of Latinas got him killed.
>>2778403
Bordiga???
>>2778430>4th InternationalDamn that one really accomplished a lot
…What are its highlights again?
>>2778511about the same as third international.
>>2776905Sometimes forces align and the world produces something of such exquisite beauty my immediate response is that it must be fake, it must be done purposefully. But no, it really is wonderous enough to grace us with a vid of such unprecedented comedy, all on its own.
>>2778669>karl marx is whiteexplain how he had the n-word pass then
>>2777491>>2777513>>2777528>>2777593t. epsteinites upset with phraseology
>>2778695Language is one of the building blocks of social reality anon, its worth discussing.
>>2778669So funny the instant she said "Karl Marx was" I knew the next thing would be "white man" lol
>mfw I cut out the heart of a POW as he still draws breath on the top of the great pyramid so the sun may rise again tomorrowYou are making her point for her, because this was based of the Aztecs
>>2778697Discussing language yes, complaining about semantics and phraseology no
>>2778701Semantic shift is a movement towards adoption by the masses and dark paths id say. Its right to be sceptical of the liberal right hijacking marxist terminology and trying to pull a bernie 2
Historical or historicized phraseology is definitely underestimated in the field of linguistics and worth looking at.
That being said, "Epstein class" or "Epstein regime" is the best propaganda term we could ever imagined that fell right into our lab, so shut your cockholes.
>>2778669the solution to capitalism is me making love to this woman until she gets pregnant and I take her last name.
>>2778717I personally think an acceptance by the masses as the ruling class being indistinguishable from billionaire pedophiles is a good thing. Rather than the previous mode of viewing them, which was more the liberal ideal of the collected and meritocratic technocrat leaders. People talk about how the Epstein class is reductive to a few bad apples (or even just jews lol) and while some rightoids do use it like that in the same way they use something like "elites", I do think most people view it as a condemnation of that whole class of people of billionaires, bankers, technocrats, in a word owners, rather than some of them being epstein and some not. The whole thing of it is that they're all covering for each other right? That any one of them could be on that island, or at least get an invite, and that the whole system is set up for them to play with
Skepticism in regard of this shift to me seems less than useless, amounts to little more than moralistic purity testing with no natural sincere alternative presented
>>2778743Epstein class is here now in the popular vocab, im not reacting to it more than saying we should be seizing the moment and lot letting demsuccs hijack the term to elect newson or whatever.
>>2778746not letting*
The genies out the bottle and that.
>>2778746I agree but I think it's tough for demsucs (democrats) to coopt the term because they are also implicated by it inherently
>>2778743My problem with it isn't le purity testing, it is the fact that it has nothing to do with scientific socialism and serves more as entertainment at best and conspiracist obfuscation at worst. Ruling class degeneracy is a frequent theme of class society, yet stories of it have never led to political change. We need less de Sade and more Marx. This is not to say that the contents of the Epstein files themselves don't contain any surprising or interesting information however.
>>2778930>My problem with it isn't le purity testing>it is the fact that it [is not pure enough]Yeah calling people epsteinites is not theory my man. It's just a manifestation of how the class struggle is being perceived at the moment.
>and serves more as entertainmentIn what sense? I can see how it's a cathartic term, but it just looks like agit prop to me tbh.
>conspiracist obfuscation at worstI don't really think that is how it is being used in the main. If anything the rise of conspiratorial obfuscation becoming much more mainstream is an indication that trust in liberal institutions and their frameworks is at a very low point
>Ruling class degeneracy is a frequent theme of class society, yet stories of it have never led to political changeHas complaining about stories having these themes accomplished anything?
>>2778965Scientific socialism isn't merely a purity check, it's the intellectual foundation for the movement for the abolition of capitalism itself.
>it just looks like agit prop to meIt all depends on the context. What I see here instead is socialists discussing the slogans amongst themselves and convincing themselves that it's necessary to vulgarise Marxism "for the masses" as they repeat the things they come up with for that purpose to each other. The reality is that the people who mostly benefit from conspiracies are mostly far-right grifters who say that the Jews control the world like Candace Owens. It would therefore serve us much better to focus on the theoretical and organizational development of scientific socialism, educate each other and advance the socialist programme without unnecessary demagoguery.
Am I yelling at the clouds here? Yes. But I'm just not willing to entertain liberal nonsense especially on a Marxist site.
>>2779009>on a Marxist site.this is a lassallean/kautskyite site
>>2779009can you give me a lecture on why calling capitalists 'porkies' is bad and damages the cause? thank you in advance.
if you can't use the "epstein class" meme as a means to direct "uninitiated" people into scientific socialism you simply suck at agitprop and should leave that part of praxis to more talented people, if all you can do is complain about how its not a rigorous scientific term you are simply doing the language police shit that made everyone hate the left in the 2010's, people that do that crap will never be leaders
this is a dirty Stalinist site
>>2779042That's not the point of my post. The simplest way to summarize what I'm saying is that instead of tailing media happenings and conspiracies we should develop a programme
>>2779060
Sorry Ted your manifesto is retarded and technological development will continue for as long as humanity is around.
>>2779070
in a few billion years everything will be extinct dw
>>2779009>Scientific socialism isn't merely a purity check, it's the intellectual foundation for the movement for the abolition of capitalism itself. It is not a purity check, yet you are using it as one. You are upset at terminology generated from the masses for not adhering to your preconceived notion of how marxistly dense it aught to be
>What I see here instead is socialists discussing the slogans amongst themselves and convincing themselves that it's necessary to vulgarize Marxism "for the masses"I don't think that's what's happening. Like you said, Epstein class and such has nothing to do with marxism, so what is being vulgarized exactly? Wouldnt a vulgarization of marxism be more something like economism? Rather than the use of a particular phrase such as calling the ruling class pedophiles
>The reality is that the people who mostly benefit from conspiraciesWhat conspiracy? The Epstein stuff is legit and goes all the way up to the current pedophile in chief
>It would therefore serve us much better to focus on the theoretical and organizational development of scientific socialism, educate each other and advance the socialist programmeObviously that's always better than discussing semantics, this is redundant and leans into sniffing your own farts
>Yes. But I'm just not willing to entertain liberal nonsense especially on a Marxist siteAiight chief
Jesus was definitely more of a socialist than capitalist
historical world news is happening and every time i tune into the top world news streamer he is covering tabloid articles talking about him
>>2779433>Caleb Maupinlmao I love that guy
>>2778743the western masses ARE the epstein class
westoids saying "epstein class" is just like westoids saying "we are the 99%"
no you aren't. You're the top 10%
>>2779486Millions must die
>>2778965>Americans eat people That's why they're fat
>>2779744
Nah bro he was probably the most progressive voice of his time, he would totally be a comrade if he was alive today.
>>2779783
yeah bro he was an idealist. But can you blame him? He grew up in Judea and manage to turn everyone into hippies
>>2779820
Islam has Jesus teleported to heaven and Judas's soul gets bodyswapped and forced to suffer on the cross
>>2779940Oh wow I didn't know that. So that's why muslims think the whole resurrection thing is rubbish.
>>2779974Idealist take. There's a reason why the CIA feared communist priests.
Amazing things are happening on kick.
>>2780283>factionalismunless if it has to dew with trans shit, then how?
>>2780283CPB-ML is purposefully unpopular and dogmatic, like so many parties.
>>2780283>>2780287i though that they were trans-skeptics TERFs
>>2780283They found his anti-gay and anti-trans blog posts I guess lmao another chud down
>>2780297CPB-ML are literally TERFs
>>2780298i wonder if it was posts he made about zionism.
>>2780298No that's CPGB-ML you're thinking of.
Cockshott was stupid enough to join a pro-trans Communist party (CPB) lmaoooooooooooooo
>>2780291>>2780298>>2780302Cockshott was never CPB-ML or CPGB-ML, he was CPB, who are also extremely transphobic btw. He was probably kicked out because he supports planned economy. The CPB want to vote in socialism btw. He is too radical for them, but it has nothing to do with transphobia when both him and the party are the same on that.
>>2779991yeah, 60 years ago when christianity was still growing beyond the anemic rate it has now
>>2780311What's the endgame here? What benefit is there for them for kicking out one of the most prominent contributors to 21st century socialism?
>>2780330CPB are Eurocommunists LARPing as ML. They don't want Cockshott because he is a famous theoretician in favour of planned economy, and the CPB don't want planned economy.
maybe he should just make his own party now.
>>2780343He should just join whatever socialist party is willing to take him. I know he's an ML and everything but even trotskyists are saner and more politically active than the clownshow of "ML" parties in the UK.
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