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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together with the Leftypol Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/leftypol_org

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA

>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY

<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan

📖 • https://designopendata.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/understanding-media-mcluhan.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE

>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs

<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko

>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DBF3E860993373223D72E98FADF0F2DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs

<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=054E022C8BD24EE2C5595B575BCED7DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4

<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY

>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5BD20E0E22FC8BC2CB4F8A7760D57027
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RtV0oO8Pmg

<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q

>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI

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SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL

>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30

📖 • Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm
📺 • Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw


<Documentaries

The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc

HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco


>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw

The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI


<Situationist Archives

https://situationist.org/
https://notbored.org/SI.html
https://bopsecrets.org/SI/index.htm

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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing


>>2286452
Objectively wrong and moralism

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>>2286234
>>2286205
More blatant than even what I expected

Luigi still untouchable. These bitch ass aesthetic communists wouldn't dare to go after real people with real power. They just want symbolism. And we of course can't ignore the obsession with geopolitics. Like someone cares about Israel and Palestine!

>>2286205
Tesla is peak socialism.

>>2286431
Wait, did you seririouly post that in reaction to this? Wtf are you on dude? How does a book publisher equating Musk's slop and Marx's Capital explain anything about material conditions (aside from the ideological degeneration going on in china that is)?
>>2286500
What do you mean? The only moves against him I saw were from corporate media and a single radlib tiktoker who got immediatly cooked.

>>2286413
so strange to see a creature that can barely speak in basic english go off on literally everybody else all the time.
I guess offense really is the best defence.

>>2286416
>he totally banged that chick, believe it, montefiore and that crazy guy that say he's his great grandson said so.

>>2286518
all 1 billion chinese must be in a hivemind, after all if a single book publisher does this every single chinese agrees aparently.

>>2286518
I feel like putting them next to each other is a pretty obvious joke, like "get both sides of the story" or something lol.

>>2286135
ONE GAZILLION Ded

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>>2286470
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>>2286492
No data or proofs, only whining

Westerners simply don't know what they're talking about, they'll imagine themselves "poor" while consuming on the level of a middle class third worlder.

give me a material explanation for why the first world never had a revolution, that isn't more easily explained by them having been bribed

I keep hearing news about "poor family can't afford to feed their 3 kids, pay mortgage on 2 story house and repair one of their two cars, income inequality at an all time highh!111" from america

in the third world, those children would be dead from starvation and the house and cars wouldn't exist

>>2286564
You realise that comparing flat income is worthless since living costs are also much lower in the third world?

Obviously as a westerner you can consoom much more consumer goods than someone in the third world, that much is true, and you might get to enjoy other perks like generally more stable and prosperous society, but the difference is not as stark as it would appear just by comparing GDP. Many people in the first world are homeless, or living in one room, or whatever, many don't have a job, etc, it's pointless to play this game of splitting and privilege stacking, it's just typical third worldist bullshit.

>>2286567
I mean yes the better conditions are obviously part of why the first world isn't revolting (there's not really been many revolts in the third world in the last 50 years either btw) but let's not act like every person in the third world is starving either lol

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>>2286568
Oh, yeah, it's only cheap and abundant access to consumer goods and food and safety nets and stability and general prosperity, not a big deal.
Did you know that a lot of first worlders are """homeless""" (renting)? THEY ONLY HAVE ONE ROOM!!1111

First worlders had to change the definition of "homelessness" to hide their privilege lmao.

the definition of homelessness in the first world is that you don't own property

the definition of homelessness in the third world is that you'll freeze to death next winter

>>2286572
Bro I literally work at a homeless shelter, homelessness is rampant in the first world. I'm not saying that first worlders don't have it better, obviously they do on average, but the shit you people do where you say "actually westerners can never achieve anything better, you just need to all kill yourselves" is obvious wrecking

>>2286574
There's dozens of people sleeping on the street at least in my relatively small city

>>2286574
this is bait, and or fed shit

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>>2286564
> only whining

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>>2286205
>no contradiction

>>2286576
First world homeless get shelter and showers and soup kitchens and clothes from the salvation army etc. etc.

Third world homeless simply starve and freeze to death because third world proletariat can't afford to give away extra soup or extra clothes.

>>2286581
There's shelters in the third world too. What's even your point?

>>2286583
No there aren't


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Oh. My. Odin.

The leftoids are just like the bad guys from pop culture slop #345621 !!!!!!

>>2286585
Can you explain to me why Mexico City is considered Third World, but Jackson, Mississippi is considered part of the Imperial Core? Explain this to me without using, nation-state rhetoric. Use class rhetoric. You can't. It's cause fuckin' this Third World, First World shit is stupid. Cause most people aren't thinking of Mexico as a Third World country, they're thinking of, I don't know, the Congo or Sudan as a Third World country, and the quality of life in Mexico is so much higher than Sudan that it seems a little bit fucking ridiculous to portray Mexico as a Third World country in comparison. It seems a little bit ridiculous to put an entire five billion people into the same category of Third World and then go, yeah, they all have the same material conditions, and then be like, yeah, this is the most progressive stance you could take as a white person in the fucking Imperial Corps. What the fuck are we doing? Just stupid, illogical, fuckin' white man's burden pivoted into a progressive stance type bullshit. It's cringe, it's cornball, and it's dumb.

>>2286567
The fascist regimes that fought WW2 were the immediate respinse to attenpted revolutions in europe. Spain had a civil war, in Germany you had the Spartacists while in Italy you had massive riots and worker councils seizing factories and fields. Quit lying.

>>2286247
>Maturing is realizing books are not a special form of transmitting information.
maturing into a certified retard, or what?

>>2286609
Why didnt fascism happen in rusha? Or did it happen?

>>2286655
are you serious?


>>2286568
>There's actually zero difference between living in the first world and living in the third world
Are you retarded?

>>2286661
honest question: what brings you here of all places when you are basically ignorant about anything related to communism/socialism/marxism and their history?

anyway: fascism is bourgeois social revolution in reaction to the organization of the proletariat. as such, it requires a burgeoise revolution to succeed before, which didn't succeed in tsarist russia.

>>2286600
i told you frieren's portrayal of demons was the stuff rightoids get off on, but no people in the /anime/ thread insisted bourgoid artists need to have "the freedom to make evil races" or something

>>2286600
that's what you get for reading posts made by an anime pfp uygha

>>2286668
this is why people need to be careful with the kind of content their children consume, otherwise they will grow up to be a rightoid who thinks the world is a marvel movie with bad guys doing bad things because theyre bad and good guys who wanna save the world from evil

>>2286667
>fascism is borgeois social revolution
Nah. You made that up

>>2286667
Counterrevolution*

>>2286684
go fuck yourself then

>>2286664
thats what not anon said

>>2286688
In essence it is what they said

>>2286718
>essence
Metaphysics, Julius!

You must have a pancake.

>>2286718
They explicitly contradict that.

>>2286518
And like a clockwork:

Leftypol's resident pedophile manages to have the worst opinion possible again and jumps on the sinophobia train in order to protect a ban-evading poltard torshill. Bravo

>>2286655
It almost did with Kerensky. Thankfully with WW1 straining the state's resources, a smallish bourgeois class and luck the Bolsheviks were able to stop the would be fascist coup and instead did the october revolution.

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>>2286859
> sinophobia
Radlibs have evolved to remain exactly the same, lmao

>>2286551
I hope so

>>2286205
I'm sorry but calling it "Das Kapital" exposes yourself so quickly.

>>2286144
Hexbear, some reddit subs and resetera seem to be where the remnants of the tumblr SJWs fucked off towards. I've seen hexbear shilled here a few times and brief time I looked I only saw absolute hysteria.

Everywhere else you go, you get that "I'm not like those annoying leftists" act. Hexbear does the opposite and owns the label.

>>2286567
The reading list for this general is 90% about that topic. Althusser, Gramsci, Adorno/Horkheimer, Marcuse…. Once you realize that even the "revolutionary" subcultures and art are fully supported by the structure and becomes sublimated (the Freudian definition of it) into meaninglessness, you start to see the parallels with these kids that do nothing but talk about streamer drama and call it praxis.

>>2286874
Are you like Vawsh in the sense that you hate China because they still have the death penality for pedophila there?

>>2283546
>>2283558
>>2283620
>>2284348
>>2284339
are leafbongs really this unaware of their state policy?
>yaroslav hunka face when we won
don't feign in surprise, this is what liberalism chose
>Still a bunch of liberal bullshit ofc since this post is an arrestable offense
is not only that is an arrestable offense, is that it is encourage nazism, and some liberals haven't awaken yet.

>>2286205
>bookstore with books
>I am le mad
Now try to find mein kampf in bookstores in China, v. the US
:^)
go on, radlib. I dare you.

>>2286205
This makes me happy. Everyone seething ITT is just low lQ. Yes, reading even books written by enemies is the mark of a rational mind. Xi himself has read Milton Friedman in addition to the Marxist classics. The Chinese are simply smarter than white boys and every new day just provides more evidence for that.

>>2286859
>>2286898
>>2286926
>>2286239
>>2286246
>>2286928
>i must defend the sanctity of this random bookstore or socialism is doomed
mental illness

>>2286567
>>2286890
>da revolution never happened because uhhhh culture jazz music art
academics and their sycophants are so retarded bruh

>>2286878
the greentext is obviously a copypaste from twitter

>>2286932
DO AN lQ TEST NOW TO PROVE YOU ARE ABOVE 100. I BET YOU WILL FALL BELOW 90. READING BOOKS FROM IDEOLOGICAL OPPONENTS IS RATIONAL. IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A MORON.

>>2286932
booooo you deflected my dare.
you are a boring radlib troll.

>>2286933
elon musk is not a serious ideological opponent

>>2286933
>literally all books are precious wholesome chungus that HAVE TO be read
>even some obviously ghost written elon musk trash
>if you disagree you are dumb
projecting brainlet

you have to be majorly retarded to glorify books this much, especially in fucking 2025 when all that pulp is wasted on mostly slop

>>2286668
they will do it with anything, not just the ebil races, i too can make the demons from frieren be actually nazis, it's easy and brainless which is why they do it, now this don't detract from artists doing it.

>>2286600
#SoyRight

>>2286668
>depicting villains is le fascist
retard

>>2286954
basically

It seems Assmold has given up on his beef with Hasan for the time being and is just harassing some vtuber now.

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>>2286997
I wish these retards would get a job and stop talking about trans people 24/7.


>>2286933
Fuck you benchod im never reading you bloody bastard

>reading books will make you a not retard

>>2287002
lol what is this sub even

>>2287002
gender accelerationism is so based

>>2286950
>literally all books are precious wholesome chungus that HAVE TO be read
Learning from the smart makes you a student. Learning from the inept makes you wise.

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Friendly reminder that this is an Angel Reese stan site

>>2287038
>le epic chinese proverb says im right and you are wrong

>>2287040
Total moid death

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>>2287002
>>2287026
While people argue pronouns, AI governance is solidifying. While trans people are dehumanized, capital is reorganizing into post-national corporate blocks. While drag bans distract the public, supply chains, currencies, and data models are being rewritten.

>>2287040
It is known
One more year till I can watch her rebound her own misses against my tempo

>299 cases of raping children
<20 year sentence
only in france

>>2286997
>>2287002
The right-wing association with slop content is going to bite them one day I feel.

>>2287002
I miss when Clown World was an ironic left twitter meme to dunk on that one annoying neocon pseud instead of /pol/tardation played straight.

>>2287099
what's the materialist explanation for france loving pedos so much?

>>2287053
Hot. Too bad I am who I am

>>2287099
>only in france
Why? What was the maximum sentence available to the judge?

>>2287099
dude he's probably gonna be dead in 20 years

I wish I was dead in 20 years.

>>2287218
>csa
>maximum sentence: 25 days per victim
only in france

>>2286413
Fuck both of them but this azelia person roasted her

>>2287250
If it was any longer there would only be like 3 adults in France

Is the SCUM manifesto worth a read

>>2286546
>because a crackpot said it, it must be false

>>2287318
it's the ravings of a schizophrenic, it's the 1968 version of offending the bourgeoisie

>>2287318
It's unrelated to socialism, if you also like reading about sociology, gender relations, incel theory, etc, yes.

>>2287318
0 science involved

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>>2286933
>IDEOLOGICAL OPPONENTS
lol so many radlibs here who believe communism is an ideology that must be upheld in the marketplace of ideas

>>2287349
It is, and it must be. If you have objections, write them out, dont just do
>implying implications

>>2286518
>>2286205
Why would the Chinese hivemind do this 🥀
Are you guys for real now?

Can't wait until zankara (moffin) stickies a /gif/ gore thread to epicly own brown people that do communism wrong

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So this guy is just begging for more people to vandalize his swastikar, right?

>>2287377
wtf is that name. chris godzilla lmao

>>2287217
who cares, grab your hand and tug it, anon. sex doesn't feel that much better

>>2287380
Depends on the hand and depends on the pussy/booty

> It is 6am and the first thing my Uber has said to me is “hola no hablo ingles”
> Mass deportations need to happen and they need to happen now.
https://twitter.com/sav_says_/status/1927323248301048245

Whore named 'Hernandez' is mad that someone spoke to her in the 2nd most common American language.

>>2287349
how else would you know that libs calling trump fascist, but ignoring when their blu fascist is in power how fascist their beloved leader is, is absolute hypocrisy? because they can frame the theory and definition in a sane way?
anyway, who cares what's sold in a Chinese library. the radlibery suggestion that something like that matters when I challenged here people to find one mein kamp in a bookstore in China, out of 1.4. billion people, and no one replied, it's what tells me the radlibery in this thread doesn't care at all.

I think punk is ass when pooled into an aggregate (There is like some good ones I guess) and all but when a chud told me that "Punk rock is conservative because Johnny Rotten is one and was always one" I thought this guy who said he actually liked punk when I asked "Do chuds even like punk rock" felt like they were the biggest plebians on the planet.

>>2287403
>this pic of a bookstore in china is funny
<RADLIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>2284532
>>2285737
There's an entire genre of radlibs subjecting children's media to deep analysis in order to uncover some esoteric meaning purportedly behind it and it's the funniest shit ever. They talk about the media being controlled by the right or the bourgeoisie like it's co-opting and corruption by Satan. 😂

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>>2287390
kek, one of the replies.

>>2287099
>74 years old
nothing burger, its essentially life.

I wish I got a life sentence.

>>2287419
>pointing out the class character of media is radlib
you understand having a tv channel is expensive so only people with money can have tv channels, right?

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>>2287419
That shit about colonization themes being whitewashed is whatever to me. I'm more annoyed that they took one of the best looking Disney films and turned it into something absolutely soulless yet again. Yes yes I know at the end of the day it's all slop but I felt like back in the day they used to put in some actual effort.

Like look at this shit. Look at this fucking shit right here.

>>2287127
>The right-wing association with slop content is going to bite them one day I feel.
I think slop is the future and already is the present influencer meta. Whether making drama or reacting or whatever , it's the parasocial aspect of slop that brings in the views and jives so well with the platforms. The slop is just so mediocre approachable and relatable.

Like how daytime TV gravitates towards the reality show. The originals may be gone, but their legacy lives on inside documentaries(like truecrime),culture war dominated newscasts and even fiction. "Big Brother" and whatnot may not be the hot shit, but Truecrime is.

>>2286413
how come azealia knows so much geography?

>>2287468
She tours a lot. She knows a bit about Eastern Europe because she has a bit of fans there and tours there

>>2287456
On one hand artistic expression has basically completely died in the mainstream. But there's also an underground of very artistic media that are getting a lot more funding than they did in the 90's, like A24 shit that have budgets in the 10's of millions instead of like $1000 they would've had in the 90's. If you just avoid anything and everything pumped out by investor-run companies you can still find good media. I feel like the gap between media consumption habits has never been larger though. Conservatives only consume conservative media. Liberals only consume liberal media. Centrists by and large are the most slop-invested and just consume whatever is popular. In the 90's whether you were a liberal or conservative or leftist or nazi you would've watched Titanic regardless. These days people self-segregate into media bubbles they enjoy and as a result there's no real incentive to create objectively good art. It's all just about grabbing in the most possible "demographics" you can and make them think your movie is part of some culture war. It's very sad.

>>2287455
>>pointing out the class character of media
your shitty frankfurt school wannabe leftoidist analysis of children cartoons with academic buzzwords sprinkled on top is not "pointing out class character" you insufferable pseud. all idiots who want to feel like the next fisher should do like him and kill themselves lmfao

you have to be really high on your own farts to compare scientific analysis and critique of political economy to making shit up about the 'subtext' of media for literal toddlers LOL

>>2287002
>people getting to choose how they live their lives is wrong
Love this brave new world that's developing. Very cool.

>>2287499
>im angy and i have to make that other people's problem

>>2287481
>>2287456
this is exclusively an american high budget industry problem because of course their corporations wouldnt want to spend more money when their economy is going stagnant

>>2287499
your problem man

>>2287503
sorry for pointing out your super duper deep left wing analysis of media is on the same level as varg vikernes calling films jewish subversion or whatever the fuck slop right wingers call analysis and youd have to be a massive retard to pretend this has anything to do with either marxism or communism

Some autist on the Brazilian thread in /latam/ wrote a fucking 300-page book on imageboard culture:
https://leftypol.org/latam/res/7306.html#bottom

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>>2287508
>of course their corporations wouldnt want to spend more money when their economy is going stagnant
That's not what's going on. They're announcing record profits but cutting back and adding more slop regardless. I only really watch wrestling when it comes to American media but they went from completely blank and "clean" looking rings to this ad infested slop just to boost stock prices. The company is reporting higher profits than its ever had and STILL went with this shit just to squeeze more money. It's not corporations reacting to stagnation but yet again the finance vultures going for short-term profits that will kill the brand long-term.

>>2287517
Frankly it's due to Americans totally embracing "Get that bag" culture.

>>2287517
>record profits
are they accounting for inflation?

>>2287519
There's still a pretty large section of Americans that find the whole bag culture to be very gaudy. I don't wanna invoke genpol anon but I've only seen that sentiment from younger people.

>>2287524
A lot of things people bitch at young people for is largely just young men and taylor swift/kpop fans.

>>2287526
>>2287524
prolly because its only now that social media is so massive so everyone is exposed to middle class zoomers and gen alpha all the time getting over represented in the collective conscious for better or for worse

>>2282654
The artist is called Lilith so yeah.

>>2287335
There is no evidence beyond a liberal's word. It's false.

>>2287519
In this case though they might "get the bag", they're putting garbage out

Bah dum kshhhh

>>2282654
Trans folk be popping gems.

>>2287138
I'm compiling a list of meaningless buzzwords and buzzphrases that only retarded internet-obsessed people use so I can more easily make fun of them. "Clown world" is on there, along with "woke", "DEI", as well as recent additions "gay and retarded" and "scold" (adjective form only).

These guys act in a very funny, highly predictable way, but for some reason I don't see many people that aren't me using that for comedy.

Actually, that's a thing. I think leftists need to take the low-road more often. Say that rightwingers are stupid and ugly and annoying and always pissed off, and that leftists are cool and in control. Always be on the offense, never the defense, and keep insisting on a reality that's favorable to you until it becomes true. Things are definitely getting better now, but starting around I want to say the early-2010s, the left has been in a slump where it's been too polite and self-critical to just outright call the opposition morons and stand by it.

>>2287335
montefiore is not only a crackpot but a name on the epstein flight list, as he levies allegations of pedophilia against stalin. don't be a retard.

>>2287511
>im angy and its your fault because i can't wegulate my emotions so good

>>2287514
That's pretty cool

>>2287517
>They're announcing record profits but cutting back and adding more slop regardless.
most disney movies flopped, if they're earning money, it's because they're gaining ground as an entertainment monopoly and thus cannibalizing the entertainment industry itself.

>>2287556
>>2287517
thats a good point considering streaming is huge today

>>2287553
>>2287534
it's literally something beria admitted himself in 1953 at his trial, and it's something found in the archives and corroborated by others, you fucks coming out of the woodwork to defend this sexpest and rapist is laughable

>>2287553
worse, his source is flimsy at best.

>>2287561
>he said in trial.
wait hold up, now "this" specific trial is totally valid when beria himself was assasinated instead of executed by the government ?.

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>>2287561
>1953
yeah because nothing else was happening related to stalin during this year, nothing at all. beria's trial just happened in a vacuum. don't be a retard.

>>2287569
he admitted to everything else except being a traitor so i trust it on that alone
>>2287572
>but it's le wrong!!!!!! KRUSCHEV LIED OK?????
i don't care if 80% of the evidence used in the trial was forged, the evidence found in the soviet archives proves it enough to where it doesn't matter

>>2287561
The consensus here is that Beria was a wholesome good boy who was framed and murdered by the dastardly fascist Khrushchev who somehow pretended to be a communist for several decades so that he could destroy the Soviet Union in its moment of weakness

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>>2287573
>i don't care if 80% of the evidence used in the trial was forged
why would you give the game away THAT easily?
>>2287574
>making up fake assertions to get mad at

>>2287577
my argument is that even if that amount were forged, it would not change the other evidence used proving it beyond overwhelming, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's wrong

>>2287573
>he admitted to everything else except being a traitor so i trust it on that alone
and his backing is what, exactly ?, he got murdered outside of the trial it does not look like he was being honest.
there is still no relevant proof that backs the main argument.

>>2287580
>uh some evidence are real
like what, which evidence is real and backs the trial's result anon ?.

>>2287581
he was executed during the trial
>there is still no relevant proof that backs the main argument.
his own statements and much of the evidence they pulled up during the trial? even if you assume a good deal of it was false there was enough evidence that he didn't even dispute the charges when it came to him, the only other one he disputed was that he was a traitor, implying that they didn't alter it to "worsen" his image

>>2287582
what we have in the archives showing that evidence and the large amount of evidence they used being findable in the soviet archives

A kind of weird thing I noticed is how a lot of the big name "Stoic" channels seem to not to really like rightiods that much. Just an interesting observation I guess. I thought they loved that shit.

>>2287585
>what we have in the archives showing that evidence and the large amount of evidence they used being findable in the soviet archives
what are those, you say "they have proof, they have proof" yet even the US had proof of nuclear weapons in iraq, you need to post that shit if you want this to actually be judged if it's right or wrong, by now you are not posting the source.

>>2287583
>his own statements and much of the evidence they pulled up during the trial?
which are ?.

>>2287586
Stoicism as a philosophy and the sort of trad shit that dribbles out of most rightoids mouths don't have much overlap. If you recited the enchiridion to a rightoid without telling them what it is they'd probably call you a woketard.

>>2287588
haven't you realized, he doesn't have source otherwise we would've seen it long before. the only recourse he has is to repeat "uh even though maybe probably some evidence was false, i don't care about that! we have real evidence from the archives!"
it's just the usual nonsense anti-communist rhetoric that's levied against stalin, except this time coming from the authoritative words of…beria and a guy who was on the epstein flight list.

>>2287600
the claim predates montefiore, whether or not he was a hypocritical sex abuser i don't give a shit about, i do care about is whether there is evidence for the underlying claim (ie that beria was a sexpest) and he was, why you feel a need to defend him is beyond me, also there are academic works that collect these sources you can go look at, it's not "LE HECKIN ANTI-COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA" to say that the georgian pedophile beriya, was a pedophile, rapist and sexpest

>>2287604
go to page 97 and it mentions it

>>2287556
Disney movies flop at the box office but Disney+ is very profitable. Disney understands that box office doesn't matter, long-term streaming revenue and their theme park business is what matters. Shitting out garbage movies to keep people talking about Leelo and Stitch or whatever gets Disney adults to show up to the parks and renew their Disney+ sub to bask in "nostalgia" for the better originals, while also getting young children who don't know any better to beg their parents to buy merch for the rebooted IP. Disney couldn't care less about box office as a metric for success. They just want people to keep talking about their properties.

>>2287604
>the claim predates montefiore
meaningless, just means an narrative is older than him and needs to be judged-
>beria was a sexpest
wait, weren't we talking about stalin ?.

>>2287609
it was about beria the entire time man, should have read the words i was saying

This day is literally Indian and pretends to be a Jew in Israel. He gets huge engagement on Twitter

>>2287610
basically my advice for you nonny, is to not defend a 150 year old pedophile because he worked under your favorite guy or country

>>2287613
what a funny funny guy

Extremely bizarre happening going on. /b/ is currently more ppm than /v/ is and it's all thanks to ecelebs. /b/ might turn into an eceleb board and not a porn one.

>>2287615
Nick did a bit on him

>>2287607
yeah and their streaming service strives not because disney live action adaptations attract a particularly large audience but by the simple fact that disney has amassed the biggest number of IPs out of any other entertainment company in the US.

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>>2287606
<amy knight
>In 1993–94, she was a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.
brilliant, your source is from a D.C think-tank.
you still haven't shown the supposed evidence from the soviet archives btw

>>2287613
lmao he gets millions of likes for this shit but still lives in the shit-ridden slums

>>2287630
>your source is from a D.C think-tank.
<the author was a member of a thinkank, therefore everything inside is wrong and ebil
and also she straight up cites sources that you can go find and read yourself if you're so inclined, i honestly can't be fucked to go find them just so i can show your pedophile guy is guilty of the things he obviously was guilty of, but you can go find them, there's citations on that page

>>2287500
Being transgender isn't a choice. You have gender dysphoria and either you get treatment for it or, more likely, you get deprived of that treatment, which is violence against trans people. Communism isn't about people choosing how to live their lives. It might be nice to sell it that way, but it's about restructuring society so that people get their needs met, while contributing what they are capable of. If a liberal individualist wants to "choose" to live life like a parasite, we don't support that. We do however support trans people getting their dysphoria treated.

>>2287614
Yes fellow leftists, we need to just believe liberal propaganda and agree with everything they say, even when there is no real evidence, because some people confessed to sex crimes under torture and were later executed the same day as their totally legitimate trial.

>>2287318
it's pro-rape

lol I can't believe the trial of the nazi collaborating terrorists is seen as a scandalous kangaroo court, but executing beria on the same day was totally cool
HE WAS A PEDOOPHILE!!1111

>>2287613
What worshipping Euroids as a Third Worlder does to a man.

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>>2287648
>Being transgender isn't a choice. You have gender dysphoria and either you get treatment for it or, more likely, you get deprived of that treatment, which is violence against trans people.
No offense but there's a reason China considers transgenderism to be bourgeois reactionary ideology.

>>2287701
>No offense but there's a reason China considers transgenderism to be bourgeois reactionary ideology.
source?

>>2287701
>citing the retarded mice experiment
back to /pol/

>>2287648
Being trans is choice, simple as

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>>2287701
>Unironically using the "behavioral sink" experiment as proof
Nta, but anyone who unironically attempts to use this as an argument for anything outs themselves as a pseud who knows absolutely nothing regarding what they are talking about. The fact that the shitty "behavioral sink" experiment is taken more seriously then the "rat park" experiment, despite being flawed from the top down, shows how much of online psych discourse is shaped by nice sounding snippets, assumptions, and hearsay. I don't care whatever you post now, you're just uninquisitive, uncritical, and retarded as fuck.

>>2287710
You ate a trans, though

>>2287710
You must be a high autism score trans

>>2287713
to be fair you have to have a very high autism score to be trans

>>2287711
>>2287713
Not trans, just sick of people thinking they are posting something profound every fuckign time they reference this shit. People who uncritically look at the experiment and accept not only it's completely unmaterialist conclusions about "spiritual death", but then go on to equivocate the behaviors and conditions of the rats to human beings (completely neglecting critiques about territorial rat behavior and how the enclosure constituted from its very start a hellhole for that species of rats), or ignore how it only gained public traction due to fears at the time about "overpopulation", need to stop posting and start reading. Or get off this, I don't care very much which.

>>2287419
This image feels racist to me

>>2287701
i swear leftism is just a religion to you people. you use marx like its scripture all the time, and whenever you want to settle a debate on whether somethings 'communist' or not (retarded debate btw) you point to what a random country does without exploring the issue deeply

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>>2287613
Whatever, man. Xitter is a reactionary bot-ridden shithole anyway.

>>2287419
>the bourgeoisie would never spread propaganda to children, that only happens in hollywood movies about evil totalitarian commies!!111!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Just let us enjoy our media slop in peace 😭😭😭😭

>>2287701
>China considers transgenderism to be bourgeois reactionary ideology.
proofs?

>>2287821
>reddit spacing
<non text-based faces
you have to go back wherever you came from.


>>2287990
>GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK 😡 😡 😡 😡

Nope lol. I'm socializing this communist sub for graet justice! 😄

>>2287811
How about you get off the internet, all of this slop is coming directly from CIA think tanks.

>>2287701
This theory applied to human doesnt make sense at all considering hunter gatherer people and rugged nomadic tribes, who were objectively less alienated and neurotic human, put a great importance on physical fitness, grooming, appearance, regalia and beauty, even body modifications. Pic related.
The theory that natural humans are dirty bastards that don't care about "superficial look" and just breeding is only true of the civilized pre-industrial underclass/labourers. The upper class being very coquette until the advent of post-WW1 modernity.
While looksmaxxers, roiders, gymcels and transsexuals use more modern means provided to them by the globalized supply chain spawned from industrialization, they are actually all very lindy.
Though, it is true their past itterations were likely less neurotic and pathologized than today, more instictive.

>>2287811
>leftism
Lmaooooo plebbitor

>>2288047
Brother all of your citations are edge cases are among edge cases. Besides, advocating for a kind of transhistorically fixed innate human nature is already reactionary, but you're a self-declared technocrat so I have no idea why you're so hopelessly lost as to even be here in the first place.

>>2288047
Oh and to make it funnier, 3 of the 4 images posted refer to aristocrats. Very leftist stuff, missing the forest for the trees and not recognizing that the class character was the common thread motivating the behavior.

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Found this, from 2023.

Honestly I live in a pretty liberal area and I never so much as heard of transgenderism until 2015. People acting like they’re some historical subgroup worthy of respect rather than a deranged fetish typical of late stage capitalist decadence are either willfully retarded or are adjacent to the fetish themselves

>>2288130
Sanest libshit

if every firstie killed themselves, we'd have world communism the very next day

you ever think about that?

>>2288142
Never really thought about how if every first born son killed themselves, communism could be achieved, but I do think you are on to something

>>2288130
>i didnt know about it so it didnt exist

>>2283471
lol this is burzum

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>>2288130
>I am ignorant on this topic, therefore…
Sit down kiddo

>>2288142
If every firstie all came at the same time, we could make a cum rocket to move a bit back away from the sun and stop global warming by another 2 millennia.
DId you ever think about that?

>>2288130
>deranged fetish typical of late stage capitalist decadence are either willfully retarded or are adjacent to the fetish themselves
This is what modern transgenderism is

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>>2288166
>transgenderism
>ism

Is haz's discord raiding again?

>>2288130
You never watched The Crying Game? Boys Don’t Cry?

>>2288130
Transgender people have always existed on the fringes of society. It's not a deranged fetish, most of them are pretty normal if you get past their predisposition towards homelessness, mental illness, sex work, and other things mostly forced onto them by capitalism as a consequence of living on the fringes. I just get kind of annoyed that they always turn Marxism into some utopian fantasy where their specific neuroses are protected. It's like when incels insist Communism will come with government-assigned wives to satisfy their loneliness. Communism isn't a cure-all, and doesn't have a single unified culture.

>>2288188
>erm have you seen the latest zoomy zoom proleslop?
No I have not and you should feel embarrassed for suggesting fiction is reality

>>2288203
>Communism isn't a cure-all, and doesn't have a single unified culture.
I wish more people would understand this about communism or leftism honestly. Without becoming nihilistsic relativists preferably.

>>2288208
It's boomer & gen-x proleslop, actually.

It's useless to argue with transphobes or "gender criticals" Bbcause they know they're wrong, they're just lying. Look at how big the mockery is on xitter where they're mocking a dead KID for being trans. Look at Utah ignoring their own study proving that transition is the right choice for trans-identified teenagers.

They know they're fucking evil. You can't reason with them. There is nothing to say to them.

They're overly represented in online 'leftist' spaces because they know they'll get rightfully bashed if they say this shit IRL, or they know they'll get outed as a rightoid infiltrator trying to stir up shit.

>>2288231
I don't argue with them to convince them personally. It's for the neutral/unknowing people that might read it.

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>>2288130
Trans people have been around for a long time and there's numerous examples supporting this - Such as, at the invididual level for example: Christine Jorgenson, Wendy Carlos, Candy Darling, and Brandon Teena, the real guy whose story the movie Boys Don't Cry is based off of.

You also have organizations such as the Cercle Hermaphroditos, which was the first group in the US to start advocating for the rights of trans people all the way back in the 1890s. Plus hijra and kathoey folks over in Southern Asia which are largely seen as third genders in their respective countries, particularly hijras since they do have legal recognition in India and Bangladesh as one.

>>2288231
>They know they're fucking evil. You can't reason with them. There is nothing to say to them.
The average working class person doesn't have a high opinion of trans people. It's in fact you who is out of touch with reality by suggesting the proletariat is evil for not accepting you. And this kind of thinking is exactly how wreckers are born, people with no goal in life except to sow conflict in movements based on personal grudges instead of ideological or materialist goals. I'm not trying to antagonize you here but you're really misguided.(Rule 12 - low-quality reactionary content)

>>2288261
>Cercle Hermaphroditos
Interesting. I didnt know some transgender advocacy groups dated back so much. I only knew about homosexual ones.

>>2288272
The proletariat are morons, that is why we have vanguard parties.

>>2288272
>The average working class person doesn't have a high opinion of trans people.
because they are not educated or aware, the average proletarian doesn't think every singular transgender person should be wiped off the map

>>2288272
Fuck off reactionary.

>MUH TRANS MUH TRANS MUH TRANS MUH TRANS MUH TRANS
Listening to the Western white left one might come to the impression that Trans people are the most decisive issue facing the working class. Gone is the energy that was supposed to be spent on unionizing, raising wages, nationalizing the economy, and seizing power. If you spend more than 30 seconds of your daily life thinking or talking about trans people you should KILL YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY for being useless for the workers.

>>2288324
if certain people would just accept trans rights then we wouldnt have to discuss it anymore

>>2288342
So what, you're an anarchist and now you're telling us that we're liberals. Okay.

>>2288348
Communism to be the most based thing in the world. For us to have the most kromer and for chuds to be relegated to the cringe-bin. I do not believe in vulgar egalitarianism.

>>2288272
>The average working class person doesn't have a high opinion of trans people.
the average proletarian doesnt give a fuck because they have more important things to worry about and retards here consider 'working class' even those with property and reserves who do stand something to gain from being transphobic

>>2288277
>>2288316
>implying communists stand outside the proletariat
radlib moment

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That dog knew it had only one way out goddamn. Now I feel bad for the canid.

>>2288342
i'm not even saying that the proletarians are stupid or dumb, but rather that the average proletarian has probably not seen a transgender person so they're more susceptible to propaganda against them

>>2288354
>>implying communists stand outside the proletariat
>radlib moment
never implied they did, only that the average proletarian may hold negative opinions due to a simple lack of contact or knowledge on the subject

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>>2288272
>>2288342
>Marxism is when tailism and opportunism
>Marxism is when you patronizingly treat the proletariat with kiddie gloves with zero respect for them to be better in any way whatsoever, like some pitying parent
If anything, the Marxists of the past had far stronger language for the proletariat. Instead you infants exalt ignorance among workers, instead of seeing them as deserving of what you know to be true. Not because they are lesser, but because they are the same and should be treated the same. Or do you hold yourself to such low standards?

>>2288369
pretty cool that we are seeing the same logic retarded 'patriotic communists' use to gain votes now being used to explain why the 'working class' might be prejudiced

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twitter is an untapped goldmine, idk why you people complain about it

>>2288377
>
That's just it though, transgender people are such an insignificant part of the proletariat that the current Left's obsession with them is alienating to a lot of the working class. Dudes working in a factory for $7/hr are begging for a union and all their local DSA branch talks about is fighting the oppression of trans people.

idk it seems like the big thing at the moment is the palestine shit which even normiechuds are starting to get sick of israel's shit about

>>2288377
>the current Left
>DSA (lol)
communism is not leftism

>I only see dumb kids on the internet telling workers to kill themselves because they don't agree on every single ideological wedge issue

internet fights are not real life

>dictating policy

communism is not about policy either

Why os the westetn left obsessed with deleuze and french philosophy
What did those clowns ever accomplish

>>2288385
>communism is not leftism
>communism not leftism according to my hyper sectarian tendency's snowflake terminology and I'm going to make sure everyone hears about
You know what he meant you fucking autist

>>2288385
Why isn't communism leftism?

>>2288392
hes complaining about larping political parties and internet debates and comparing that shit to the proletarian struggle, he clearly has no idea what hes talking about

>>2288392
>my hyper sectarian tendency's snowflake terminology
I didn't know whatever the fuck you're talking about invented the French revolution.

>>2288397
Almost always it's ultras spazzing out about the communism/leftism distinction. Everyone realizes the French Revolution was a bourg revolution, what's the fucking relevance in this context?

>>2288399
Do you even know where left-wing and right-wing come from?

>>2288406
Left: Opposed to the current organization of property
Right: In favor of established property relations

>>2288377
>>2288400
Working class power stems from its organs many times already, the DSA and pretty much all political parties are absolutely irrelevant.

>China

Oh it's one of those retards so of course they can only conceive of policy changes as doing a heccin' communism.

>>2288410
Thanks for the incredibly vague and arbitrary definition of left and right.

>>2288406
>do you even know this factoid that has no relevance to the current conversation?
Yes I do. Do you know that the term communism comes from French utopians? Who gives a shit? It has no relevance to how people are using these terms in 2025 and it makes you look like a literally autistic umm ackshually spastic when you screech about it at every opportunity.

>>2288410
it's private property that we want to abolish, not this empty phrase 'current organization of property' you illiterate larping moron

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>>2288417
>Internet debates ARE class struggle.
Holy fucking shit.

>>2288416
It does have relevance when idiots conflate communism with whatever ideology has a vibe and aura they like.

>>2288417
>Internet debates ARE class struggle
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>2288421
They can just as easily do that while using the term communism instead of leftism and it happens all the time. So what does seething at people over terminology in contexts where it's not even relevant do exactly?

>>2288425
Illiterate retard, everyone has already pointed out they are blaming communism for shit leftoids do.

>>2288261
>Plus hijra and kathoey folks over in Southern Asia which are largely seen as third genders in their respective countries, particularly hijras since they do have legal recognition in India and Bangladesh as one.
Yeah. I don't know a lot about it, but the Philippines elected a transgender congresswoman recently and she's in a right-wing party (whew). But I've seen some polls that suggest Filipinos are more "whatever" about it than Americans are, and the Philippines is a pretty conservative Catholic country in many respects.

There's also Thailand and they were never colonized. (One of the things which challenges the idea going around now that LGBT-ism is a product of Western colonialism.)

I'm not saying it's a paradise but the gender roles are somewhat different, and less binary than it can be in Western countries, and even after conversion to Christianity some of these pre-Christian influences and constructs about gender identity remained.

>>2288377
>That's just it though, transgender people are such an insignificant part of the proletariat that the current Left's obsession with them is alienating to a lot of the working class.
I've seen that a little bit, but I think it's less of a factor than right-wing transphobia which is encouraged by a very large and oligarchical media system from Fox News to Elon Musk. There was a whole period for about a year when these media outlets were telling rightists to go out and protest drag shows (of all things) and it was repeated endlessly, but then Trump got re-elected and they don't care about it anymore. But they were being told to care about it. But otherwise, they don't really care THAT much, because like you said, it's not a big part of the population.

>Dudes working in a factory for $7/hr are begging for a union and all their local DSA branch talks about is fighting the oppression of trans people.

I really don't think a local DSA branch talking about transgender people is what's stopping dudes from organizing unions. If they really had it so bad, that they needed to go on strike and organize themselves to fight back against social class oppression, then they'd do that, right? It's not like Karl Marx invented workers going on industrial strikes, that was already going on. Think about what you're saying for a second. I think the unfortunate fact is that socialism in general – even basic socialist principles – are decidely unpopular with most Americans, and changing that is very hard and is going to take a long time. And socialists don't want to cope with that, so they come up with these excuses or try to find scapegoats to blame for why their revolution hasn't happened.

More than anything, I think these issues over trans rights is best left for trans people to figure out themselves. It's ultimately their movement, and they have a lot of debates within their own movement, which reminds me in some ways of the gay rights movement. There are trans people who have a kind of bourgeois / middle-class "normie" approach, and then you have trans people taking their shirts off in public and expressed a kind of radical, French-style sexual and gender freedom ethic, and they fight each other a lot. But over the long term, I think it will be accepted more widely in the society (and actually it is now compared to our past), in part because of their movement influencing people's minds, and ultimately because economic and technological change is causing traditional gender roles to erode.

>>2288452
>There's also Thailand and they were never colonized. (One of the things which challenges the idea going around now that LGBT-ism is a product of Western colonialism.)
tangential but i've been to Thailand and some Thais did like to mention that they've never been colonized, which is funny because if you go to other Asian countries like China or Vietnam that did get colonized you really have to wonder if that even matters. if you asked random visitors with zero interest or knowledge of history, based on the environs most people might probably say that China was never colonized while Thailand hasn't stopped being under the thumb of Westerners. Soi Cowboy has pretty much the same demographics as that of the Shanghainese foreign concessions, primarily catering to Westerners with a small side of Japanese (and some other East Asians now). i dunno if it's cognitive dissonance or what.

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>>2288090
>the largest most well known most relevant nomadic people from eurasia prior to the turks is an edge case

Consider the following. You are as much of a fool if:

Consider the following. You are as much of a fool if:

You think LGBT is a class problem
You think LGBT is a class solution

IDPOL is bad mmm'kay?

>>2288463
Yeah I don't really know actually. I do have an old Thai neighbor and he expressed some pride in the never-colonized fact (also has a small portrait of the modernizing king Rama V in his house). Never asked him about sexuality issues though but he definitely has a "live and let live" philosophy towards life and a kind of polytheistic approach to religion. He has several sons, two of them run a restaurant here and one of his sons back in Thailand is a Buddhist monk.

And everytime I've been in a gayborhood, there has been a Thai restaurant.

>>2288486
I think people need to think about (irrational) scapegoating and the kind of social or psychological need that it fulfills for people. What's really going on is people trying to displace their own frustrations and anxieties onto an out-group, which makes them feel good, but is really a way to avoid taking responsibility for their own situation.

Sartre wrote about this and it plays an important role in his existential philosophy. This is also related to his theory of freedom. Man is not born with a fixed nature or purpose (no God, fate, or biology defines us in advance). You are not *something* by essence. There are no universal rules or outcomes. And because no one and nothing outside you determines your values, purpose, or meaning, you are free. But that is SCARY. Because it means there are no excuses. Not your upbringing, society, or even unconscious drives can absolve you, and every choice you make reflects the kind of world you believe should exist. It's like standing on a cliff, you could jump – you're free to jump. Not because you want to, but because nothing can really stop you. So it's ultimately up to you.

There is no God! We have been abandoned here! There's no avoiding it. But people try to flee from this freedom into what Sartre calls "bad faith." That is people lying to themselves, pretending they're just playing a role, or that they're determined by their job, identity, or biology. But actually the life of society is very complex.

This also ties into real-world political behavior. When a political movement is failing, and a person has sunken their identity into the movement, it often feels like the foundations of their own identity is collapsing too. Rather than face that anxiety, they project their fear, frustration, and guilt onto a scapegoat. This isn't ignorance, it's a choice: a willful embrace of a simplified, hateful worldview that offers emotional relief. They blame the Other. That's basically what these burned-out "socialists" and "communists" are doing as their movement flounders, crumbles, or fails to launch. It's easier to blame than to change.

https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/what-are-you-doing-after-the-end

>I take as a point of departure that we need to be better equipped to handle the stresses of the world we live in now, since those stresses can only get worse in the future. Our society, especially mediated through the Internet and social media encourages just about every negative tendency imaginable, from destroying attention-spans to undermining concentration, to responding instantly to transient stimuli and deliberately seeking out those stimuli that give us quick emotional fixes. Now I’m not here to tell you to get off social media or declutter your digital life. Others have done that much better than I could. But if the beginning of wisdom is understanding the problem, then there are a couple of interesting experiments anyone can perform. One is simply to see how long you can sit without moving a muscle. It sounds easy, but experiments aimed at getting people to sit still for two minutes generally show that the average time is 10-20 seconds. And of course physical and mental restlessness feed off and reflect each other. A parallel experiment is to try to keep your mind on the same subject for more than a few seconds. In the modern world, hardly any of us can do it without training. Look at this cup, they say, concentrate on that. Ah yes, cup, coffee, didn’t have breakfast this morning, too late to bed last night, arguing with my spouse, wants me to leave this job but I told her we can’t afford it, what was the question again?


>It’s not surprising, then, that people have asked what the value of all this mental activity is. What, after all, do we gain from being permanently aroused, permanently ready to take offence, permanently providing a running commentary in our heads about everything we see and hear? What difference does it even make? It makes us tired, it makes us angry, it makes us upset and even despairing, and of course it achieves nothing. Or rather, it gives us the illusion of achieving something, and thus comforts our Ego. Shouting and screaming at the television or an Internet feed, joining in some Internet pile-on against a popular hate-figure vicariously associates our Ego with the subject and the outcome, like football supporters cheering on their team. But in the end, it doesn’t make any difference. Indeed, it actually makes things worse, because the anger you feel cannot, almost by definition, be directed against those who deserve it: it is projected against your friends, family and colleagues instead.

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/711004016
What makes 4channers this way?

>>2288452
>I really don't think a local DSA branch talking about transgender people is what's stopping dudes from organizing unions.

I wouldn't say so either, not per se. It's a facet of the problem, but one that's overempasized.

To give an example from my life, the local org I've been involved with recently tried to help an Amazon warehouse unionize. For reasons that weren't the org's fault, the effort was defeated when the pro union side only got 30% of the vote. Over the course of the next several meetings, 0% of the org's discussion time was spent on why the vote failed or how to address these problems in the future, and instead the lion's share went towards discussing Trump banning dei related stuff on college campuses and how to protest it.

So while, no, it's not like the org talking about "trans issues" is preventing workers from trying to unionize, there's a tendency within, some, ostensibly socialist organizations to emphasize identity issues over class issues. This one in particular would call doing so "class reductionist" and if you suggested it you'd probably be called a stalinist tankie.

So sure, this is purely anecdotal, but I don't think it's an isolated incident either. Nor do I blame the issue on trans people or their political needs, but rather severe defects in the ideological framework of some sections of socialists.

>>2288377
>the current Left's obsession with them
It's no the left that's currently obsessed with them though. The left have moved on to full time abortion rights and Palestineposting since Roe v Wade being overturned and Jan 6. You are still living in 2014-2020.
Also that strategy of just ignoring the anti-trans mania have backfired on you very hard, all those people who were "heterodox leftists" and "progressive just asking questions about gender ideology" are now all RW culture warriors who stabbed your sensible anti-idpol left in the back and now call you Gay uyghurs Communists russian saboteur on X.com.
It just wasnt a good stategy at all man. Not in the first world at least.
>transgender people are such an insignificant part of the proletariat
It is true. But so were jews in Germany during the interwar. You are not saying much.
>>2288400
>China does not discriminate against trans people, nor does it endorse them
I is true and i agree with the vision. But China also doesnt have the anti-trans memetic mania that we have. They don't have Xi going on TV/Weibo talking about the transgender kabal subverting the nation by competing in dart championship. So it's beside the point really. Most of trans/gay activists excess were/are overcorrection from conservative culture warring.

>>2288452
>More than anything, I think these issues over trans rights is best left for trans people to figure out themselves.

I think the fault with that thinking is that trans rights aren't issues in and of themselves but are being used in a cynical way by reactionary forces. A few years ago there was a "bathroom bill" issue, where a city passed an ordinance allowing people to use the bathroom of their choice, and then almost immediately after the state government passed a law to override it. That in itself was bad enough, but the more important issue is that the bathroom shit was only the first half of the bill and all anyone talked about. The second half of the bill was essentially an attack on workers, forbidding localities from setting wage requirements or other job protections for contract workers.

Another example is these conservative groups attacking school libraries for having "obscene" materials in them, or in other words books about trans people, sex, or sexual identity. Once again the lgbt stuff is just a cover for the real purpose: attacking public schools as an institution. All these book challenges and teachers unions fighting laws about it have resulted in schools and unions having to spend billions in order to fight them, leaving them with even less resources to serve the working class.

So unfortunately trans issues aren't just trans issues, they're working class issues also, both because trans people are of the working class, but also because they're being used to attack other sections of it as well.

>>2288376
honestly there dudes who prefer manly man things should probably just fuck other men and be done with it
men can't just be friends anyway - they always want to have sex with each other

You have 90% of the "white nationalist" and reactionaries in the west who are actually OK with Trump not deporting any brown biomass they hate so much as long as he post a transhumanistjak ACKing and make it mandatory to bully every transgender adolescent in the country, stripping them of their civil rights while the left stand there awkwardly, doing nothing but performative hysterical posts about fascism and bitching about right-wingers being antisocial low autism score.
Even if you don't think MtF transsexuals are women you are going to find yourself in a bad situation just trying to ignore this or pretend only racism and the salary of retired rust belt workers sunbathing in Florida matters man.
It is also just not good for society to fabricate a demographic of resentful outcast, unless you want to more homeless prostitute with AIDS and methead psychos roaming down the streets, you're just gonna become a Brazilian low trust slum.

<Hanno Hauenstein: Germany trumpets its reckoning with its Nazi past – except when it’s inconvenient
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/24/germany-nazi-past-gaza-media-prize-state

>>2288452
>she's in a right-wing party (whew)
It's not uncommon at in societies where they are accepted. There is also an insane far-right trans woman politician in Indian who talk about making muslim genocide real. I saw many Indian transgender diaspora in America talking like gay liberals then i hit translate button on their xeet typed in their native language and get hit with Mein Kampf-tier posting.
I remember talking to many buddhist Thai transgenders who had similar "political sensibilities".
Most people's politics are contextual.

>>2287574
>somehow pretended to be a communist for several decades so that he could destroy the Soviet Union in its moment of weakness
It's not just him, they think every single Bolshevik who wasn't named Lenin or Stalin was doing this, including the commander of the Red Army that fought two wars and a coup to get the project going.

>>2288557
I don't know. I see you are sensible in your approach but this has/is being tried and it do not seems to work.
>"Just why do you caaare dude lol!"
Is not the answer. It kind of worked worked in the 2000/2010 because we had banger EDM pop, Michael Bay and good video games distracting us. Your cold dissafected approach works when you have a very strong party filled with strong men. In a way Biden did that in his first year of his term (before he became senile) as well as his campaign when he would say casually there's a least 3 genders and told transphobic trolls to shut up on camera while laughing at them, but he was an old man from America's great past, there's not manly confident leftist/lib like that in politics anymore. You need an LBJ to pull this off.
There is a chronic lack of charisma and machiavelism in the left-of-center politics in the west. Could you imagine Sheinbaum and AMLO in any western countries today? You can't. We don't have this type of human capital anymore here, and we won't win again until we start producing them.
Keir Starmer is trying to appease reactionary culture war by caving in to the gender-critical crowd and he is still getting raped the Brexit disaster party lol.

>>2288519
>So while, no, it's not like the org talking about "trans issues" is preventing workers from trying to unionize, there's a tendency within, some, ostensibly socialist organizations to emphasize identity issues over class issues. This one in particular would call doing so "class reductionist" and if you suggested it you'd probably be called a stalinist tankie.
I had this experience once in an org. There was some talk about union organizing and one person made a particular effort to stress an organizing attempt in another state for "queer workers" specifically. That didn't sit right with me. In the abstract, it doesn't sound bad if people want to do that, but it's more the context and how this person was stressing it that's hard to explain. It was just REALLY important that it was about queer workers. I was thinking: well, why not just "the workers?" I oppose transphobia but I think the better strategy is to build an anti-transphobic workers' movement rather than a queer workers' movement, if that makes sense as an axis or an orientation. The plot twist is this person also probably considered themselves a Stalinist tankie because of the nature of the group. It is a little strange.

>>2288527
>I think the fault with that thinking is that trans rights aren't issues in and of themselves but are being used in a cynical way by reactionary forces … The second half of the bill was essentially an attack on workers, forbidding localities from setting wage requirements or other job protections for contract workers.
Yeah that's a good point. I would just clarify that I don't think movements can substitute for each other. If there is a trans movement, a movement about something else can't substitute for that. Trans people must decide what their demands will be and how to organize around them. And that's fine. And they will do what they think is necessary for their situation. And I think they're going to do that no matter what. No socialist or communist group that thinks this is a distraction from the class struggle can stop them.

I unironically think leftist should embrace a degree of elitism. Like we already think we're better than most people anyways why not just openly flaunt it?

>>2288608
There already is an incredible degree of elitism.

>>2288557
>I think the fault with that thinking is that trans rights aren't issues in and of themselves but are being used in a cynical way by reactionary forces … The second half of the bill was essentially an attack on workers, forbidding localities from setting wage requirements or other job protections for contract workers.

This reminds me of that nerd that in the “my pronouns are Jesus” asking someone

>would you rather have gay rights or economic stability


I think you’re right that we need the Chinese approach and just ignore the reactionary framing altogether and maybe even start framing things like

>do you want racism/xphobia etc etc or do you want healthcare


Cause you’re right that’s what’s on the line.

To give some actual numbers to counter bloviating reactionaries

https://news.gallup.com/poll/645704/slim-majority-adults-say-changing-gender-morally-wrong.aspx
>WASHINGTON, D.C. – A steady 51% of Americans think changing one’s gender is morally wrong, while 44% say it is morally acceptable, which is generally in line with readings in 2021 and 2023. At the same time, more than six in 10 U.S. adults oppose laws banning gender-affirming care for minors.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender-issues.aspx
>A solid majority of the public (66%) continues to favor allowing openly transgender men and women to serve in the U.S. military, though this figure is down slightly from Gallup's previous measure in 2019, when 71% were in favor.

>A majority of Americans (62%) say trans athletes should only be allowed to play on sports teams that correspond with their birth gender, while 34% say they should be able to play on teams that match their gender identity.


>About three in 10 Americans (31%) report having a friend, relative or colleague who is transgender.


It's mixed bags all around. And even this info isn't enough to justify saying what "the average working class" thinks about trans people or their issues.

>>2287613
Hindutva and Zionists have got to be the most annoying right-wingers in the world.

>>2288628
>I think you’re right that we need the Chinese approach and just ignore the reactionary framing altogether and maybe even start framing things like

To a certain extent I agree. I think a lot of time gets wasted trying to litigate any given issue along terms set by reactionaries themselves, or else argue in the realm of value judgements. And this isn't always the fault of people involved, especially when you're on the frontline. Like this campaign against lgbt books in schools, the actual intent only became apparent later when the pattern emerged and it became clear who was funding the initiatives and who was profitting from it. So you've got people responding the best they can with what tools they have, and likely against interests much better funded and organized than they are, with focus tested rhetoric amplified by sympathetic institutions.


>>2288651
Not surprising, their retarded ethno-nationalism is supported by the world hegemon. They can't lose, making everyone mad is only bad if you face consequences. For them it just builds justifications.

>>2288272
jannie couldn't contain the trvke

>>2288272
tailism

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>>2288272
>The average working class person doesn't have a high opinion of trans people.
propagandized, mostly. if true, and depending where. in the global south, yes most likely true almost everywhere where people is more religiously conservative, and patriarchy is stronger.
that doesn't mean it's right.
>It's in fact you who is out of touch with reality by suggesting the proletariat is evil for not accepting you
not inherently evil, evil those who manipulate them, always remember:
<The ruling ideas of a given epoch are, however, those of the ruling class: "The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships.
if you hate X segment of the average population, instead of the robber barons, the rich, the oligarchs, those who steal your labor force, then you are being manipulated, and because people doesn't rationalize or reflect too much about things with critical questioning, they end up supporting those ideas.

after all, everyone wants to have the cool life of the robber barons and many simply will agree to them to see if they have a chance of be them.

>>2288393
It's a thing r/ultraleft thinks is some epic "dunk" because they're actual idiots who don't understand synchronic language. Like I've seen them unironically say "it meant something different 200+ years ago!"

The average poster there is 15 years old judging by the post history of the mods there, spending all their time debating hip-hop beefs.

>>2288737
if it is so stupid, refute it, because most "leftists" do not want communism, they want a paternalistic welfare state so they can jack off and do nothing

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>>2288737
if leftism includes non-communist elements then its anticommunist by definition, and if you exclude all non-communist elements from your special snowflake definition of leftism then why not just say communism in the first place lmfao

>>2288748
>if leftism includes non-communist elements then its anticommunist by definition
Do I have to draw you some Venn diagrams to demonstrate that no, it in fact by definition is not so.

I can't remember if it was this thread or another where someone asked why Musk has so many kids he apparently doesn't care about but:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics

>Blaming the weak for their own sickness is one half of the coin of soft eugenics. The other is encouraging the perceived strong to procreate more, which brings us to Musk. The tech billionaire frequently invokes autism score, a flawed and long-debated measure of intelligence. His fever dream of a crumbling civilization can only be salvaged when “smart” people pump out more babies. What constitutes a smart person, he doesn’t make explicit, though in tech-natalist circles they usually mirror the entrepreneurs declaring the mandate. To that end, Musk has personalized his advocacy for pronatalism by challenging himself to help “seed the earth with more human beings of high intelligence”.


He thinks he's such a smart guy that spreading his superior genes is fundamentally improving the Earth.

>>2288744
>>2288748
Leftist is just an umbrella term for communists and anarchists.

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>>2288751
>its not anticommunist to include non-communist elements
let me guess, american? and a member of a political party like the dsa?

>>2288753
And social democrats. Basically it refers to collection of groups sharing leftist/liberal/progressive/enlightenment values, rather than specific political plan.

>>2288755
Bad guess, neither. Non-communism isnt anti-communism, how do you not get that.

>>2288757
Ok? Are we discussing usage of word "communsim" or "leftism"?

>>2288751
Communism is the highly biased proletarian movement, imbecile. Its aims are exclusively proletarian. Other classes can be part of it but only as communists.
The moment you diverge from this then it isn't communism anymore.

>>2288755
dsa is not a political party, retard

Why do yall dumb uyghurs always start r/communism101 tier arguments over the definition of words in the internet drama slop thread

>>2288759
>Non-communism isnt anti-communism
Because you say so?

>Ok? Are we discussing usage of word "communsim" or "leftism"?

Illiterate ape, read the whole discussion. The other poster is right in saying that communism stands outside of the left-right umbrella because its a remnant from the French revolution.

>it refers to collection of groups sharing leftist/liberal/progressive/enlightenment values

Even by your own definition communism is not part of this, you stupid mouthbreather. Communism is not a set of values, much less has anything to do with shit like the enlightenment or other liberal ideology. It's an explicit critique of it.

>>2288762
>erm technically its not a party its an org for activist larpers
LMFAO is that supposed to be better faggot

>>2288759
>leftist/liberal/progressive/enlightenment values
<not anticommunist
rofl aight this retard is just completely clueless

>>2288752
i think i asked it. interesting.

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>>2288764
>Because you say so?
No, because those words literally say so. Non- , anti-. I genuinely dont know how to explain this in any simpler terms.

>The other poster is right in saying that communism stands outside of the left-right umbrella because its a remnant from the French revolution

It is not "remnant" of french revolution, that is just when the expression was coined. It is still widely used, with communism taking space in the left end of the leftism spectrum. That is just how people use it, what is there to be gained in stubborn contrarianism? For example clarity on term "communism" is important, if you lose that term you create a hole in your ability to express specific political ideas. "Leftism" is a fuzzy term, it literally just means to the left of whatever contextual point.

>Even by your own definition communism is not part of this, you stupid mouthbreather. Communism is not a set of values

I didnt wrote communism is a set of values. Communism as a political project however both implicitly and explicitly carries values with it, communists as people have their values, and there is an overlap between these values and values of people occupying political space broadly referred to as "left".

>>2288744
>I'm not like those other leftists
Ignores the fact everyone knows what "leftist" means, in that it's a broad categorization rather than just one thing that they cherrypick, like you just did. Just because you subbed to the trve movement, doesn't mean you live outside the world. You're just acting like a little kid trying to be special and, as I said, the moderation who determines the ideology of that subreddit, are kids. If not, then I'm mistaken but the humor is no different from some fnaf meme culture so forgive me for not getting their age range right when I click on the profile of some pretentious dickwad mod on there and it's just them consuming video games and rap beefs all day.

You also ignored the pure stupidity of reacting to someone putting communism into the left side of an invisible line, by following that up with "actually, the left-wing were the Jacobins and the right-wing were the aristocrats…" That's not how language works and only the most braindead, ideological redditor would even think that sounds right. Bordigists can say they're not ideological all they want but they're completely absorbed in it, and this little script you go through is proof of it.

<guys, guys, guys! These people are doing something stupid, so we are an entirely different category. We're so cool here's a fornite meme I made thanks for the upvotes

It's ideology shopping, something they claim to resist. The fact they think they discovered some interpretation of Marx/Lenin/Rosa that is mathematically correct with no contradiction anywhere is even more proof of that.

>>2288755
>counters with a front page reddit meme they drove into the dirt
Going to call Gramsci a twink next? I know you got those neurons working on overdrive so maybe you can come up with another badass Trotsky killing peasants edit.

>>2288757
>communism is proletarian liberation
Yeah.
>so it can't be labeled as leftist
Wrong and severely stupid. This is one of the best situations to tell someone to touch grass because the only way you get this deluded is if you let a reddit sub of 20 people that claims to represent an international (Italian) communist party that has about 4 people (and just split again) brutalize your mind so hard.

This is a dumb argument it's just so predictable that people shared a couple of memes from a shitpost subreddit and overnight everyone is a die-hard soldier of it. And they still haven't read anything.

>>2288786
half of what you said doesn't even apply to me, i never even said most of those things, simply stating that the term "leftist" is useless except for a vague left wing political stance

>>2288789
>term "leftist" is useless except for a vague left wing political stance
So in other words, it is useful for expressing a vague left wing political stance?


>>2288791
I fucking knew it. Chuds are degymming and commies are actually hitting that shit.

>>2288790
yes, which is why we shouldn't use it to describe ourselves

>>2288795
Depends on context. If I wanted to express commonality between my politics and those who are not necessary communist, I would call us leftist

>>2288791
A teacher of the body is still a teacher in spirit.

-Probably confucius

>>2288791
>Gymbro himbos who used to watch Hasan go down the dirtback left pipeline and start watching BM, MikeFromPA and the deprogram guys.

lmao

>>2288791
>Gym teacher
>Watching retarded left tubers
Checks out

>>2288791
>muscular chads are watching something that's worth it.
good

asmongold's face got censored in a music video because of his support for genocide

>>2288824
If only his face would be erased from life

>>2288824
he needs to be erased, or put in an snuff film.

>>2288826
Never mind his face, I'm more worried about the smell.

>>2288764
>"Leftism" is a fuzzy term, it literally just means to the left of whatever contextual point.
I agree with that. Or it's one reflection of a social contradiction and a tendency. I like Leszek Kołakowski's essay on "The Concept of the Left" which also goes into the role of the left in both capitalist countries and also socialist countries. He considered reform socialists/communists in AES states to be a left tendency within those countries and parties. But again, relative and context dependent.

>>2288764
>Communism is not a set of values, much less has anything to do with shit like the enlightenment or other liberal ideology. It's an explicit critique of it.
Well, a critique of liberalism, yes. But communism also has its roots in the Enlightenment (which was complex and had different tendencies) and it was standard Marxism/communism to describe it as the logical culmination of the rational humanism of the Enlightenment, the power of science to unlock the universal, and stuff like that. I think you need to hit the library, buster.

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>>2288824
comrade bbnos

I'm bad at philosophy though, while the robot parade from Atomic Heart makes more sense to me as what communism or scientific socialism (Marxism) was in the 20th century. That is an idealized and fictional utopian representation of it, of course, but that's like the Enlightenment on steroids, and some of these "neither left nor right" muddleheads who say it has nothing to do with that ethic are trying to cover something up.

>>2288837
>it was standard Marxism/communism to describe it as the logical culmination of the rational humanism of the Enlightenment
>I think you need to hit the library, buster.
youre a retard who doesnt even understand what you read then. now that capitalism has been developed everywhere, communism seeks to transcend all that, and all that ideological baggage pertains exclusively to the realm of bourgeois society lmao

>>2288824
damn that dislike ratio is wild

>>2288841
>and all that ideological baggage pertains exclusively to the realm of bourgeois society lmao
Does that also include reason, the critique of tradition, human emancipation, the scientific method, and the idea that society can be rationally transformed?

>>2288846
massive retard who brings up "reading" in the abstract as an own and says communism is about bourgeois values right after lmfao

>reason

love vagueness

>human emancipation

not really a goal of communism, just an inevitability of abolishing class society

>the scientific method

least disingenuous pseud

>and the idea that society can be rationally transformed

love vagueness part 2

>>2288850
Your posts aren't very good.

>>2288852
are my posts good anon?

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leftists should stop begging to be liked
oh your stupid boomer ass doesn't like me? oh you don't like me because I'm a socialist? yeah oh okay buddy, shove that up your ass
dead ass
yea sure being socialist or whatever you're calling it is controversial
yes fox news will drag your ass
who gives a fuck
lean into it if anything

>>2284168
>Even the USSR had porn.
I have seen plenty of media from the USSR on the internet but I'm still to see this mythical Soviet porn.

>>2284514
Mods, please ban this chucklef*ck.

>>2285972
requesting @s to follow, I really want some 2017-era /leftypol content

>>2286145
Um, are these female-presenting nipples? Big yikes!

>>2288901
kay why ess

>>2288872
yes proles should kidnap and torture their bosses with mock executions like stone cold did

>>2288824
This shit is poisoned honey for the sloptubers.

It may be short term gains beause of driving the propaganda/culturewar wave but in the long run, unless you are making a career out of being a zionist, you won't reap the benefits of institutional support.If one isn't a political sloptuber either, the political class will turn and twist and the propaganda will leave one behind.

And declaring the loyalties for a certain political figure or party as a main feature of the public persona is a polarizing choice that often cuts your potential audience. Especially for people like Asmongold who thrive by being relatably mediocre so that the auduence never has to reckon with the parasocial vampire being a zillionaire. Nobody can look at the character Asmongold has built and feel inferior.

>>2288791
What's the deal with bad panda?

Are they just some edgy/fight-hunting communist tuber whoresonality?

>>2288953
He's like a third worldiest but like a liberal version of it.

>>2288953
Bad Empanada is actually quite good and sources his long form stuff. He posts educational videos on his main channel but was recently catapulted to youtube Drama spotlight because, unlike every other rightoid debatebro, Ethan Klein too the bait of acknowledging BE's existence. And got consequently owned because… well because Ethan is an actual dumb person with quite the unearned sense of self worth.

So now BE is posting more on his "slop" channel and it has kind of taken over because of all the other recent event stuff, mainly Palestine related, that is going on.

The main Issue with anti-BE posters is that they are Hasan Piker fans who can't cope with any criticism of the man.

Why the fuck is asmongold so popular suddenly.

>>2286234
> Elon Musk is published by official CPC organ and therefore inducted to marxist canon.
<ctrl+F "worker", zero results
<ctrl+F "human", 33 results
>"You may wonder why we designed this robot with legs. Because human society is based on the interaction of a bipedal humanoid with two arms and ten fingers. So if we want a robot to adapt to its environment and be able to do what humans do, it has to be roughly the same size, shape, and capabilities as a human."
These liberal reptilian mfs always talk about "humans" in a very weird and uncanny way, sus!

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>>2288970
He's the archetypal thoughtless degenerate internet dweller. Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that you need to tailor your message so that the lowest common denominator gets it. This uygha Asmon took it to mean he should demean his body and mind to the degree that he does for this filth to have something to relate to. It's a good grift.

This dailywire show got rid of Brett Cooper and replaced here with this girl with 0 charisma. Her viewership is absolutely pathetic even though they gave her Brett's channel with 4 million subscribers

Brett made her own new channel from 0 and easily gets like 20x the viewers

>>2286128
>no person is above the law
Richie Torres' NYC Jew constituents are literally above the law:
>“If we killed 4,000 Palestinian children, you know what? It wasn’t enough!” Seldowitz said in one of the videos.
>“Mukhabarat in Egypt will get your parents,” Seldowitz says to the vendor. “Does your father like his fingernails? They’ll take them out one by one.”
<Seldowitz reached a plea deal with authorities, allowing for the charges to be dismissed so long as he attends a 26-week anti-bias training program

>>2288977
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/meet-the-mukhabarat-the-fingernail-pulling-secret-police/
>A May 9, 2005 report by the Human Rights Watch (HRW) dealt with the network between the US and Egypt in conducting ‘extraordinary renditions’ — interrogating Islamists and terror suspects and “detainees” outside the US. The program operated at its peak between 1994 to 2004.
>Thus, Seldowitz’s accurate reference, context, and pronunciation of the term ‘Mukhabarat’ was not a loose usage of the word driven by stray knowledge. Stemming from his professional background as a diplomat, it represents the controversial anti-terror investigation mechanism US and Egyptian officials evolved.
>Seldowitz was the deputy director and senior political officer in the US Department of State’s Office of Israel and Palestinian Affairs from 1999 to 2003. He also served as an advisor in the National Security Council during the Obama administration.

>>2288755
>what are united fronts
leftcoms and not understanding material conditions

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Apparently Glenn Greenwald had a sex tape of his get leaked online or something recently?

I don't even fucking know anymore y'all, the spectacle is getting more and more tiresome by the day.

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>>2286157
Got banmed from.haxbear for asking how we could agitate/salt the army

Deeply unserious people. Lemmygrad.ml people also didnt accept my application, so tey can get fucked and are tantamount to an enemy to me.

Yeah go join another echo camber to hang out with people who put the L in leftist, I'm good. All these "leftist" spaces are ass. I want spaces that habe the energy of a skate park, not a classroom with your favorite ML wcting as hall monitor.

I had to refresh the page 3 times to send this mesaage, maybe the mods can spend that merch money on a new server

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>>2289047
Open at your own risk.

>>2289063
Damn, this is what people are freaking out over?
I was expecting some 2 Girls 1 Cup type shit judging by some of the reactions I was seeing, but this is really isn't that bad tbh.

Only thing I'm getting from this is that Greenwald is one kinky mfer.

>>2289047
>>2289063
Is he a conservatoid?


>>2289063
>opens up laptop
>paypals 2 thousand dollars

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>>2289108
>Lenin was an agent of German imperialism sent to undermine the democratically selected socialist government of Kerensky and provoke the Western invasion of Russia to restore the Tsar.

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>>2289108
>>2289111
Imagine Lenin's face when the German empire fell and he realized he now had to lead Soviet Union for real.

>>2289113
Good news Lenin, you won't need to.
>Surprise stroke.

>>2289108
nothing in that sentence is remotely true

Lmao

>>2289218
I want the video


>>2289063
Well I'm going to have to agree with Glenn's take on this one

>>2289063
>>2289047
Seems pretty tame tbh. Why would people give a shit?

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I don't give a shit but he's talking like somebody set him up to embarrass him. That could be interesting, but he retweeted the leaked video? Well I dunno.

im glad this video addressed the anti-boomer ageism which is universal on the internet

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I like how this guy named himself after some German terrorist (who accomplished nothing!) even though he's some overweight smelly loser who reads cosmonaut articles in his mom's basement.

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>>2289108
They claim it's a joke tweet but what was the point? Especially not doing it on April fools, and by an org that wants to be taken seriously. The nugget of truth is yeah, Germany arranged to have revolutionaries sent into Russia to take them out of WW1, but Lenin didn't do it to restore the tsar. The Bolsheviks murdered the entire Romanov family. There was no evidence they were taking any orders.

>>2289333
go to bed, volkvulture

>>2289314
I bet liberals are going to be laughing in their coffee about this, but if Glenn was on their team or named Glenda they'd be shrieking about revenge porn.

>>2289314
probably the best way he could have adressed it

>>2289412
He is a liberal though.

>>2289387
Since they are libcoms, I assumed it was them joking about MLs criticizing the Kurds for working with the US.

>>2289333
Butthurt Stalinoid detected

>>2289388
>>2289445
>implying volk isn't the same brand of radlib retardation but on the opposite side
Imagine being a sycophant for minor twitter e-celebs.

>>2289387
My poor sides

>>2289428
Thank you, now that post makes sense to me. I still don't think it was a good idea to post something like that with no context included, but it was from 2018 so whatever.

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Today's culture critique slop.

>>2289497
My feed is filled with Andor bullshit too. Disney must have cut a check.

Pepper are eventually going to get tired of this crap

>>2289497
I'm starting to think companies like Disney will just flood the media with "commie" stuff that just misrepresents left wing politics completely while a bunch of youtube commentators extol how it's a perfect example and you don't need to read any theory or history.

>>2289546
>>2289497
>>2289499

Don't be edgy contrarians.

Disney’s Andor isn’t just a good Star Wars show, it’s the best Star Wars anything since the original trilogy. It strips away the mythic Force mumbo-jumbo, the Jedi spectacle, and the nostalgia-drenched storytelling of recent years, leaving behind something far more potent: a razor-sharp, slow-burn portrait of resistance in the face of rising authoritarianism. This is Star Wars for adults, unflinching, politically rich, and emotionally raw.

Andor dares to do what no other Star Wars installment has done: show us the mundane, grinding horror of Empire not from the sky, but from the street level. Through bureaucratic oppression, economic exploitation, surveillance, and fear, it paints the Empire not as a cartoonish evil but as a terrifyingly real system of control. It’s not just spaceships and stormtroopers, it’s late-stage capitalism, fascist creep, and the moral compromises that resistance demands.

Diego Luna gives a masterclass in restrained, grounded acting as Cassian Andor. He's not a chosen one, he’s a desperate man trying to survive a collapsing world, pulled slowly into a cause greater than himself. The supporting cast, Stellan Skarsgård’s enigmatic Luthen, Fiona Shaw’s ferocious Maarva, Denise Gough’s coldly ambitious Dedra Meero, and Kyle Soller’s terrifyingly real corporate bootlicker Syril Karn, deliver some of the most human, nuanced performances in the franchise’s history.

The show’s writing is surgical. It doesn’t rely on exposition dumps or fan service; it trusts its audience to pay attention and keep up. Tony Gilroy crafts a narrative that explores how revolutions are born, not through destiny, but through desperation, sacrifice, and the courage to act when no one else will. The monologues alone are worth the price of admission, haunting, stirring, and brutally honest.

Andor is the spiritual successor to A New Hope in a way that none of the sequels, prequels, or spin-offs have managed. It recaptures the rebellious heart of Star Wars, the rage against tyranny, the struggle of ordinary people rising up against impossible odds. It’s not just the best Disney-era Star Wars, it might be the most important Star Wars ever made.

No lightsabers, no Skywalkers, no problem. Andor is the rebellion as it should be: real, bloody, and human.

>>2289550
AI sloppa

>>2289499
yeah it's very suspicious. or actually, not at all. given it's disney corporate slop.

>>2289550
They could do a note-for-note retelling of the October Revolution with characters like V. Ladim Irlenin where they look straight at the camera and tell the audience to do a revolution and it would still be corporate slop not worth the film hard drives it's printed on.

>>2289555
>>2289499
It's because the second season is just coming out lol. You are seeing a bump because people are talking about it generally, your feed is curated to give you stuff related to lefty politics, and the sloptubers are making videos to ride the wave.

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I am sorry Mr. Renegade Cut but no Teen Titans Go critiquing capitalism does not make me happy, or make me want to praise it as art. I'm sure twitter will appreciate your 3 hour video essay or something.

Star Wars is cringe and I will not be buying your Funko Pop Slop

TOTAL LORCANA PLAYER DEATH

>>2289550
>It doesn’t rely on exposition dumps or fan service;
>It doesn’t
>doesn’t
>’

caught 'em in the act

notice the ' vs ’

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I don't have any Star Wars shit on my feed.

>>2289598
>Hasan slop
This site is so disappointing sometimes

>>2289609
Cry about it.

>>2289598
>>2289617
Thanks I will.
>top 6 SPOOKIEST 4cuck posts
>Adam Friedland show
Worst front page algo I have seen yet.

>>2289609
you cant always help what you get recommened

>>2289619
Post yours, Mr. High Brow.

>>2289617
>Cry about it.
Most mature lib

BANNED FROM R/THEDEPROGRAM FOR BEING TOO BASED
THE ONE
THE ONLY
ERIK HOUDINI

>>2289598
good feed

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anons is my feed based or cringe

>>2289629
it's what it's

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>>2289629
fellow scott the woz enjoyer

i do not like anthony fantano

>>2289629
Fagtano is cringe but otherwise it's fine.

revolution soon

Ms Rachel reciting "Be So Ashamed" a poem calling out leaders silent on atrocities in Gaza

>>2289623
Fine here, feast your face upon my cultured curated tastes.

>>2289657
boring

>>2289654
NO POLITIC
MS RACHEL IS KHAMAS
ANTISEMITISM

Glenn Greenwald is a pos so I don’t care

>>2289659
Boring but not low brow, I accept your concession.

>>2289654
I would follow this woman into battle.

>>2289456
Ruth replies to every single comment on Xitter. Go talk to him at whatever shit he said to make you upset instead of complaining about him here, it's been like 3 times already.

>>2289669
>>2289664
Here is a longer version

>>2289542
I've been called antisemitic for not wanting Jews to get murdered by nazis, because "it's not my place to tell Jews what's good for them."

>>2289693
Damn right. You shut your bitchass up goyim.

>>2289387
>>2289111
>>2289121
The joke is that MLs are such campists and care so little about world revolution as opposed to natlib/campism that if you put them back in 1917 they would reflexively oppose the Bolshevik Revolution since it was destabilizing a traditional enemy of the Western powers

>>2289063
boring

>>2289598
This is worse than having thinly veiled Andor advertisements.

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>>2289691
Her courage, empathy and humility is beyond inspiring to me. Gives me hope.

>>2289727
When ᴉuᴉlossnW was fashing himself up, he started going on about how Marxism was actually a German plot because Marx and Engels were German patriots and really it was all about the interests of their Fatherland, and then the October Revolution was also bad because it took Russia out of the war and that was bad for Italy. Yeah. (I mean he rejected Bolshevism for other more fundamental reasons too but he harped on this a lot.)

You know guys you're allowed to admit that Andor is decent TV

>>2289792
>star wars

>>2289792
>You know guys you're allowed to admit that Andor is decent TV
No. It's not. See the SW thread in >>>/hobby/

The height of the intellectual pedigree /pol/ offers you

>>2289727
>the joke is something i made up in my mind

Oh the zoomers are cancelling Chris Sanders over his pin-up art. Retarded generation.

>>2289910
Chris Sanders created the art style for Lilo and Stitch

>>2289910
>You need to make women look like a stick or you hate women

People just want to be mad at something

>>2289910
>twitter screenshot
>KILL ALL ZOOMERS

>>2289917
they literally can't enjoy any media anymore without calling it somehow pedophilic. Just the fucking worst.

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>>2289910
i need him to draw her

>>2289919
yes they can

>>2289920
have you heard of the disney porn vault?

>>2289922
go watch your shitty clussy 3d circus show retard zoomer.

>>2289926
calm down

>>2289923
i dont engage with that sort of thing, disney that is

>>2289913
Moe is their leader.

>>2288879

Basically the porn USSR had was trafficked stuff from the west & was difficult to find unless you put in a lot of effort to look for it.

*Pre-glasnost that is. I think the first raunchy some what sexually explicit film produced in the USSR dates to like 1988 or 89. Ask a Post-Soviet board dweller here if they know.

think im ready to give up on leftypol goodbye friends

>>2289950
Don't leave, just shitpost exclusively on /siberia/ like I do

>>2289967
ok yeah good idea

>>2289910
tbf the proportions are grotesque (but maybe its tolerable within the medium of erotic cartoons)
also, yeah, seems racially fetishistic

>>2289889
You went into a sewer and found shit. What did you expect?

>>2289910
that style is ugly

>>2289910
>porn addicts
I'm so tired of this puritanical nonsense.

>>2290099
it's one xeet with not even 1000 likes. don't worry coomer, no one's coming for your smut.


>>2289910
>twitter user calls anyone racist
lmao

also, fuck you, see >>2289917 and get a life. If you're not in a wheelchair or bed, there's no excuse for you to care about le sjws having a cry every day.

>>2289910
this might sound transphobic but i have a genuine question, why is it always transgender lesbians that overreact to the most benign shit in existence?

>>2290104
Fuck off dimwit

>>2289053
>i didn't want to join lemmygrad anyway!
Good that they told you to fuck off, would enjoy if our mods did the same. You are too old to be this much of a fucking child.

>>2290115
wrong post number? Or just a non-worker?


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>>2290111
Speaking from my own experience here, I'd argue that such behaviours can be linked to trauma. Trauma that can often be traced back to a form of abuse- be it sexual, emotional, verbal, emotional, that was either done to them or their friends. Such abuse can often lead to the development of mental disorders such as PTSD or BPD, both of which exhibit high amounts of extremely negative attitudes surrounding the subject matter at hand.

As a result, what may be benign "goon material" to you may be considered distasteful and or even triggering to them- which, considering how patriarchal societies have historically fetishised both cis and trans women- isn't exactly a stretch to make.

Patriarchal gendered roles and culture have often confined women be nothing more but a desired object- which has lead to forms of abuse. Non-white women have also often been hypersexualised or exoticised within said patriarchal societies, more often without their input or say in the matter.
Combine that with the fact that there is an overlap of neuro-divergency and the LGBTQ community this does give rise to very "clear-cut" aspects of morality and ethics.
https://neurolaunch.com/strong-sense-of-right-and-wrong-autism/

What you may consider "benign" could very well be criticised on sociological and artistic grounds while simultaneously being informed by past trauma. And to be fair, I'm somewhat inclined to agree to an extent with what "loverbutch" is pointing out -the weird, child-like facial proportions combined with an oddly pornified chest- and the fact that most of these women tend to come from cultures which are known to have scantily clad women is worth noting.

Does this mean we must therefore do away with all pornographic material? Of course not. But there are arguably better and more tasteful ways to depict the female nude which not only may say something meaningful about the subject, but even reveal something deeper about the artist themselves.

t. transgender (bisexual) woman.


>>2290148
thanks for the answer rojavanon

is he right?

>>2289910
Lesbian symbol in someone's profile = Not reading, it's gonna be basically non-human.
People who harbor this symbol are either radfems who hates male sexuality/eros (and any healthy sexuality) or they are MTF transsexuals trying to fit in with these loosers because they have troll remorse over that time they typed "bitch" online when they were a 14 year old boy, they're trying to speedrun woman cred but it comes off as even more fake and gay than lesbians already are.

>>2290267
he's dropping insane trvthnvkes on double standard feminists and 100% correct

>>2289910
>>2290111
>>2290279
you are proving her point, you know

>>2290148
>t. transgender (bisexual) woman.
[✘]

These Zionist scholar people wrote a literal book about comments online insulting Israel. It essentially presents a tweet comment then gives an analysis as to why this is anti-semitic with hundreds upon on hundreds of examples broken down 1 by 1. Very few are actually anti-Semitic scrolling thru it

https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/94596

>>2290148
you know, this makes me wonder if there is also a correlation between trauma and compultional posting (kinda like : https://www.gawkerarchives.com/media/posters-disease), maybe there is a crossroads between the algorithms and their explotation of trauma othern than rage we are not seeing

>>2290313
Here are examples of what it classified as ANTISEMITISM

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However much you hate rightoids, you dont hate them enough

https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1kztj83/men_need_liberation_too_do_we_need_more_male/

Men dont read fiction because readinf fiction is a waste of time. Its really that simple, for men, reading is about productivity, disipline and getting knoeledge to make money, for women reading is an escape. Men dont need escapes.

>>2290330
A few more examples of what scholars there consider antisemitism .

>>2289657
>Roblox
Are you 14 years old?

>>2290344
that's the guy making nietchze and hegel threads
do you really have to ask?

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>>2289598
I like BE, he's pretty based. Hasan is a mong though.

>>2290335
>Men dont need escapes.
Video games movies anime and sports would disagree.

>>2289903
It's libcom and ultras make that exact joke endlessly

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>>2290148
>>2289910
Usually I can kind of see a point, but the art style here is just so cartoonish and over the top that I don't really buy it. Like it seems more like a parody of male gaze and indigenous fetishization. Pic related, is anybody so dumb they think this is an earnest depiction of femininityi? Both of these cases are so extreme they become grotesque if taken literally.

its hilarious how Radiohead's whole thing is "we are soulless neoliberal subjects, we have no ability to ever regain our humanity, we are wretched and spiritually abject slaves to satanic techno-capital"…

but they actually are unironic neoliberal Zionist Jews! lmao……lmao!

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Fucking hell 4chan sucks so much. I got a 5 day ban that I can't even appeal yet for "banned text." And I'm pretty sure the text that triggered it, I literally just quotes from another post that went through. I think it was because the post I was replying to had the words "Wayne Lambright" in it, and all I did was highlight the text and hit the post number and added like a few common word reply, so I know it can't be what I actually wrote. Also they won't even show me which reply the ban is for, but I saw it when I posted of course, but I can't even go back to check what the message was, just from my memory.

>>2290425
>Like it seems more like a parody of male gaze and indigenous fetishization.

>>2289910
I don't get it. 2 out of the 3 pictures is of White women and all of them look the same. Where is this "indigenous fetishization?"

>>2289108
Germano-Bolchevism was a common term used in the US and UK to refer to the Russian revolution, that is before Judeo-Bolchevism took its place

Some of the most downright spiteful and rotten people I have ever met were Canadians. I dont know maybe always being the anglo country in america's shadow messes with your head.

>>2289727
All these leftists when the contradictions of imperialism are collapsing it on itself. Leftists whose movements have achieved little to nothing on the global scale since the fall of the USSR. Arguing about who has the best takes and the correct-est opinion while global liberalism collapses around them.

And the joke is the "campism" or "anti-campism" of the uninvolved. Whatever happens, you will get no say in it.

>>2290267
>our glorious porn
<their barbarous smut

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>>2290111
>transgender lesbians
oh, good lord. is this a man who had a sex change, and then wants to be with women, a woman who did a sex change but wants to be with women, but because born man, it's still considered lesbianism, or is it a person indistinctively whether they changed their sex they identify themselves as woman who loves women?

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>>2290267
youll never catch the average man rubbing one out in public, but hella girls spiritually masturbate to smut all the time
so many girls read smut it’s ridiculous. when i was a kid my mom used to read fifty shades of gray in the living room. when i was in high school girls brought “not officially smut but the female equivalent of a wish fulfillment romcom anime for nerds” to lit class. if a girl tells you shes into books or reads, guarantee most of it is smut or borderline smut.


>>2290552
You have brain damage

>>2290313
>ctrl+f
>naturei karta
>0 results
>ctrl+f
>naturei
>0 results.
yeah, to the trash can.

>>2290267
>uhh, fiction is le worse than the real acted stuff.
>also they are harmful to the mind
only if you are a willess brainlet.

>>2286581
Bro there is no third world homeless lmfao

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>>2290460
4chan shouldn't be used in current year, 8chan came about for a reason.

>>2290673
Hasn't 8chan just been a Qanon only website pretty much since 8ch went down?

>>2290677
Yeah, but it used to be good and this board spawned out of it.

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>>2290677
Yupp, still is. Haven't looked at it in a few years probably. Looks like 90% of the PPH is from the Qanon board.

>>2290679
Yeah I know, I've been here since 2016. What a wild decade of shitposting it's been.

>>2290679
>used to be good
But I wouldn't say that LMAO. The only good boards were /leftypol/ and /leftpol/. Everything else was just the worst parts of 4chan made worse.

>>2290687
Politically, the site was mostly retards but they had more interesting discussions and were funnier generally than 4chan, I don't know it's a complicated thing.

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>>2290692
>Politically, the site was mostly retards but they had more interesting discussions and were funnier generally than 4chan, I don't know it's a complicated thing.
Yeah I never really used any of the other boards. I'm not an oldschool channer either so I never really used any of the other boards on 4chan besides /pol/. I was aware of 4chan back in the day, but I glanced at it a few times, and was like this shit is retarded and not for me. I only used messageboards back in the 00s and early 10s. Then in 2016 I guess I got interested in politics for whatever reason, I kind of gradually became more interested in it in Obama's term. I turned 18 in 2008 and I was mostly concerned with career/hobby related stuff, and that's pretty much the only messageboards I posted on were dedicated to those interests. So start becoming more politically concerned maybe in Obama's second term, but there wasn't much going on politically besides the first wave of BLM. Then 2016 hits and there is the Bernie wave so I got behind that. I first started on reddit, which I also never posted on before 2016, doing some anti-Hillary stuff. I even had one of my posts in /r/news or /r/politics hit the front page, but then they stopped allowing you to make submissions with titles quotes from the article, I think I was probably a part of that lol. One of my popular posts, I quoted from the article Bill Clinton saying "you know sometimes I wish that Hillary wasn't my wife." lol. Also they had like some thing where you can make text submission posts on Fridays or something and I did a write up of Hillary's involvement with the Gaddafi/Libya intervention thing. So then there was all this MAGApede shit that was big even on reddit, so I went to 4/pol/ because of that, then I found 8/pol/ through 4/pol/ and /leftypol/ from there and I've been posting on here regularly to semi-regularly ever since.

But anyways, long-story short, I don't really have the background most of you have being longtime 4chan users being involved in the like 50 boards on that website. Learning "chan culture" was kind of daunting at first, it seems that it has lessened a lot since then actually. So since I've been posting on 4chan I mostly only browse or post occasionally on /pol/ or /tv/. Occasionally looked at /m/. I guess I've glanced at /r9k/ a few times, but not much at all, I think I quickly got my fill every time I've looked, haven't looked at it in years. Seriously don't remember looking at any of the boards on 8ch besides /pol/, /leftypol/, and /leftpol/. I didn't even look at 8/pol/ that much, it quickly gave me a headache. It was like 4/pol/ but the moderators were actually dedicated to some alt-right mission so they always had like 8 stickies at a time. It was very directed.

>>2290704
It's crazy how bad most people age.

>>2290719
I haven't used reddit at all since back in 2016 either pretty much, except when I ask some technical question on one of the subreddits dedicated to that, since it became so damned: astro-turfed, brigaded, and compromised moderation. I also never really used twitter, so this website is like the only social media I ever post on really.

>useful non ageist substitutes for "grow up"
>- "get real"
>- "gimme a break"
>- "stop being naive"
🏴 moment


>>2291041
I hope every poster on that sub gets hate crimed with a parking ticket


Why do online conservative figures identify with national socialists so heavily? Doesn't seem like a particularly good strategy.

>>2291041
This is no different than /pol/ ragebait. You are disseminating a form of Zionist propaganda that advances Zionists interest by validating antisemitic tropes.

>>2291062
Wild how Jews went from the most persecuted people on the planet to the people that want to be the most opressed

<African youtubers are DPRK pilled
Damn, glad the kids are alright.


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