>>2582156Several leftcoms I used to follow back in the day turned out to be incredibly shitty people or somehow converted to fascism or some other esoteric rightoid belief.
Hate to say it but the MLoid accusation of leftcoms being butthurt western chauvinists and academicists is true in a lot of cases.
>>2582469I occasionally partake in it
>>2582129The Bolsheviks truly didn't go far enough in eradicating nationalism and religion in Russia…
>>2582015>So onlyfans acts as an unwitting intermediate for a shady bank located in some buttfuckwherever country.Yeah I mean it gets even more obvious if you dont limit it to banks but any financial institution that is able to issue mastercard or visa cards. basically any financial institution or fintech can go to either and request to be independent issuers, and even let other institutions issue cards on their behalf. the AML requirements for these non-bank fintechs are often more lax than for actual banks. it gets quite messy and the threshold for revoking this issuing license is a bit obscure.
>>2582777I can't believe I watched that.
But BE is based as hell as always.
What he was saying reminded me of one of the other threads in the catalog about just how fucked the western "left" is.
>>2580278>>2580288the defining feature of fascism is class war over austerity. fascism is just imperialism turned inwards due to the falling rate of profit and being blocked from external expansion, so they cut wages and privatize social services. if there is a strong but not strong enough workers movement that opposes this then the bourgeois state sheds the pretense of democracy and becomes openly terroristic towards its own citizens on behalf of finance capital. thats why its variously describes as capitalism in decay/crises. if workers dont fight you get neoliberalism instead.
>>2580303>enforced discipline to the dictates of a circle of finance capitalistsyes
>>2580777you gotta have a materialist(economic) analysis. how does capitalism produce and reproduce fascism socio-economically?
>>2582913based and correct
>>2580288cringe and libpilled
>>2582913To me this is analogous to confusion between what something is used for, or what gives rise to it, versus what it is.
A piece of wood is not itself a table in general. Rather its only when a piece of wood is used by someone to hold objects on top of it that it becomes so.
Another example: A falling rock is not itself gravity. Rather the force of gravity is what causes the rock to fall.
Consider further: Skinhead nazis have existed for decades. In what meaningful sense can they be said to have a fascist ideology if they are not only not being used to safeguard capitalist interest, but may even be repressed to some degree by a capitalist state?
Ergo, I once again reiterate that we have an irreconcilable conceptual different.
That a capitalist government may turn go you utilizing fascist ideology & fascist groups in crisis circumstances to safeguard capitalism, does not mean that mean that fascist ideology is itself defined as safeguarding capitalism.
Here is materialist consideration for you to buttress the point: Why do the left wings of fascism (like strasserites) never see power? Because despite still being fascists as I defined it, they aren't generally supported by various capitalist interestsrelative to their centrist and rightwing counterparts.
>>2583017>does not mean that mean that fascist ideologyideology is supported by a material base tho, if you want to change the ideology you have to change the material base, so an analysis based in socio-economic reproduction gives you tools to do that, where "understanding" an incoherent mishmash of lies and self declarations does absolutely nothing
>Skinhead nazis have existed for decades. In what meaningful sense can they be said to have a fascistvidrel
>>2581947>Is geographic location based enforcement what defines fascism? Yes
>This assessment seems substanceless.It is.
>It's also assumes the liberal framework of the legal distinctions between citizen vs noncitizen, as if such distinctions matter materially to proles.I've been saying this for years. The distinction between fascism and imperialism/colonialism is inherently chauvinist. This is directly tied to the "uniqueness" of the holocaust. The only thing really unique about it was that it happened in Europe and white people were sometimes victims.
You do have to keep in mind the distinction bw capitalism imperialism and "general disquisitions on imperialism", that historic empires were not imperialist in the same sense because they lacked for profit commodity production which situates it as a stage of capitalist development instead of a transhistorical phenomena or human nature. Theres also the industrialization of extermination and the "scientific" justifications, in the same way that racism is a psuedoscientific post-enlightenment ideology that is not the same as historic out-group prejudice, and that proportionally certain races, jews/roma were exterminated much more wholly as a percentage. But its uniqueness as a horror in its common understanding isn't real.
>>2583031Did you read what I wrote?
An analysis of what causes something, or how something is used, does not necessarily define what the thing is.
Obviously as an ideology that emerges & gains traction in society fascism has a plethora of material causes (the downward mobility of the petty bourgeoisie, lumpenenization, low profit rates making more imperial & risky ventures relatively worthwhile, etc.)
Buty basic point was that the causes and uses of the thing are nlt the thing itself.
Earlier my point what was that I defined fascism as an ideology & movement in terms of putting identity at the center, and elevating an identity group (or groups) above all others. This is in contrast to definitions that define it in terms repressive mechanisms used by a government, or the rescinding some other liberal laws or institutions.
>>2583047While I don't agree with geographic definition, I do agree fascism is not unique in being historically engaged in imperial, colonialism, mass killings, repression, etc.
People unwittingly let liberalism off the hook for so very much its bewildering.
>>2583082>Did you read what I wrote? yeah of course. we do have an irreconcilable disagreement. fascism is not an ideology first and foremost and analyzing as one is obscurantism. it is a stage of economic development within capitalism, just like imperialism. a thing is what it does not what liars describe it as. both definitions that refer to identity elevation or repression are wrong and incoherent. describing a thing as a list of attributes is inherently incorrect and furthermore undialectical. this is the primary marxist critique of eg umberto eco and the problem with it is that it allows liberals to claim that since one or two checkpoints from the list are missing its "not real fascism" and other nonsense. the entire project of describing things as a list of attributes its positivist idealism and rooted in anticommunism. same problem with defining imperialism as big country small country agression or invasion rather than rooting it in the tendency of the rate of profit to fall as market competition leads to consolidation and technological stagnation with an increasing organic composition of capital leading to lower profit margins, which incentivizes extraterrotorial expansion, or alternatively suppression of the domestic working class. you dont have this problem if you have a dialectial analysis of its material production.
like when you describe a thing as a list of attributes you necessarily are conceiving of it as a disparate static object unconnected from its material history and development. its literally idealism, liberalism. it precludes the study of matter in motion as as a change in quantity resulting in a change in quality. the entire purpose of such analysis is to distance fascism from its capitalist origin.
>>2582068>>2582078I cant find it, but regardless if she did it was to push for pink fascist movements.
Her and her subhuman fans will be hanged upside down like ᴉuᴉlossnW, and all the feminists that tolerate them.
This account is generating full on 1 hour lectures of John mearsheimer from ai. It is not him. The videos are getting 50k views in 1 day. They are uploading multiple times a day huge ai lectures and all the comments believe it is him
The account is even from argentina
https://youtube.com/@logicofpoweryt>>2583093"a thing is what it does"
Pray tell what is wood? Is it a table? Is it combustion? Is it rotation & motion?
Or if we are defining it as the processes that caused it: Is wood the process of plant growth? Is it nuclear fusion?
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"describing a thing as a list of attributes is inherently incorrect and furthermore undialectical."
All definitions of words are a list of attributes. Namely at least one. By definition.
eg. Differentiation, definition: The rate of change of a function with respect to one of its variables.
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"necessarily are conceiving of it as a disparate static object unconnected from its material history and development."
This is false. Wood is made up of fibers, among other things. That does not imply one necessarily has to conceive of it as unconnected from the process of plant growth.
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I could go further and point out that in order for a change to be well defined it requires certain things must be fixed, otherwise meaning is lost. The concept of a derivative is useful there.
But in general, I think I will stop here. Over the past decade, I found it one of the most vapid, demoralizing and wasteful exercises to engage with those whom are all obsessed about "dialectics" but who haven't even engaged with the basics of logic or critical thinking.
>>2583116no need for elaboration. we can dismiss you as an anticommunist
>>2583116you have anglobrain
>>2583117Women have to walk over bumps left foot forward in Islam? Or what is the significance there?
>>2583117>>2583125It's just superstitious stuff.
People get attached to random nonsense and then enforce it through coercion or training from a young age because there is literally zero reason to do it so you cannot convince a rational adult to start.
>>2583125"In Islam, the etiquette for entering the toilet is to lead with the left foot, while exiting requires leading with the right foot. This practice is based on the principle that the right side of the body is used for honorable tasks, while the left is for less dignified ones, such as entering a place considered unclean or "lesser" like the toilet. The opposite is true when entering a mosque or your home, where the right foot should be used first. "
From ai
>>2583093anyone who disagrees with this is a libtard
>>2582777I feel like BE is too "normal" to meet some of the internet crazy people he will inevitably have to, making slop videos. Giving them attention at all is a bad idea. At best, these sorts are earnestly unhinged and unprepared to be thrust out of their crazy cliques into the spotlight. Or they could be pretending and then they feed off the attention and come for more.
Either way, it's a matter of time until someone takes it too far.
>>2583151>but Italian fascism was imperialistic and expansionist and was also far more brutal in its colonies than domestically.yes and so was germany. but for the most part they got cucked out of the scramble for africa. why do you think the first american landing in ww2 was in algeria and morocco? where do the nazis come from in indiana jones?? britian for example did not have this turn inward because they could sufficiently export their contradictions abroad
>>2583151Saying fascism is imperialism (or colonialism) turned inwards doesnt mean it stops being turned "outwards" at the same time.
>>2583151People say it because colonies enforced the target country under the dictatorship an external country's finance capital, and fascism enforces a dictatorship of finance capital without the foreign military.
But the fact that one's controlling big bourgeoisie is necessarily foreign whereas the other's can be domestic would obviously make fascism preferable to foreign colonialism.
>>2583127
They do not find it hot like bdsm. They are suffering under patriarchy.
>>2582913>>2583151I still say calling it fascism was still a retarded choice. Not that the notion of a umbrella term shouldn't exist, just not that one.
I hope Ethan Klein gets what's coming to him.
>>2583168>I still say calling it fascism was still a retarded choice. You focus too much on language maybe.
I hope Ezra Klein gets what's coming to him.
>>2583095the "list of attributes" is also generally the same thing as authoritarianism/totalitarianism and can be equally applied to socialism. which is of course on purpose
>>2583170No. If we didn't call fascism, fascism, we wouldn't have so many "What is fascism" debates, it would be a far better defined umbrella, I don't know who the retarded uyghur who said "OH ᴉuᴉlossnW's group did it first (they didn't) therefore let's call anyone inspired by him at the same time fascist."
I'll travel back in time to kill them before I ever kill baby ᴉuᴉlossnW or Hitler.
Fascism actually refers to something quite specific, you retards just haven't read DIMITROV.
>>2583117what country is this? bangladesh?
>>2582317/isg/ is the crypto-anarchist(illiterate leftcom) echo chamber
>>2583127
>women
those are prepubescent children
>>2583221Based? Based on what?
>>2582807trvke
Hasan seems unfazed
>>2583155>yes and so was germany. but for the most part they got cucked out of the scramble for africa.True. The Italian fascists felt Italy was a second-rate power and wanted a "place in the sun." ᴉuᴉlossnW talked about this a lot. He'd be, like, the Brits and French are hypocrites and it's unfair boo hoo that Italy isn't treated with respect and so to claim "justice" for Italy means conquering Libya/Ethiopia/and so on. So fascism was "revisionist" towards the dominant empires of the day, but it was also imperialist in character.
>>2583158>Saying fascism is imperialism (or colonialism) turned inwards doesnt mean it stops being turned "outwards" at the same time.I'm just saying the slogan version of it ("fascism is imperialism turns inwards") might not emphasize that point. I think the argument really goes that Europeans were fine with slaughtering the non-whites in their colonies and were only then horrified when the Nazis did it in Europe. I think that's true but I don't know if I would define fascism strictly that way, but I don't want to make a big deal out of it.
>>2583165>People say it because colonies enforced the target country under the dictatorship an external country's finance capital, and fascism enforces a dictatorship of finance capital without the foreign military.But wait. I think there's some confusion here. Fascism
doesn't target foreign countries with their military for colonization / imperialism? Is that what people are saying? That can't be right.
As a subsection of all this, a big thing in the fascists' own worldview is the idea (this isn't a Marxist point of view, but the fascists' own self-regard about what they were doing) is that people are decadent and weak and shit and they want to change that so they'll be strong but also disciplined and obedient in a strict hierarchical way, and they believe in building an empire as a way to change people into that idealized form. It's not that great people build empires, "it's building an empire that builds great people." It's an action-oriented ideology. Rico at the end of Starship Troopers is the perfect fascist subject.
>>2583185>Fascism actually refers to something quite specific, you retards just haven't read DIMITROV.Togliatti was the best of the communist theorists of fascism back then I think.
>>2583244>The Italian fascists felt Italy was a second-rate power and wanted a "place in the sun."yeah, but again its less about "feeling" and more about the falling rate of profit. italy had huge international petroleum and steel cartels as well as chemicals fertilizer textiles rubber and mining that were tied up with IG Farben and american corps like GE and Ford. they just got the short end of the deal in the same way germany did and were being and ultimately were successfully subjugated and horizontally integrated into washington/london finance. same for mitsubishi and samsung with japan and korea
>>2583244>("fascism is imperialism turns inwards") might not emphasize that point.yeah i guess so i just think the turn means in addition to not instead of. its not a replacement but an opening up of new avenues of extracting a dwindling margin of surplus value as technology increases. like just because technological improvements decrease the share of profit per unit given to the capitalist and so they expand extraterritorially(imperialism) doesn't mean they stop exploiting workers at home.
>I think the argument really goes that Europeans were fine with slaughtering the non-whites in their colonies and were only then horrified when the Nazis did it in Europeanother way to look at it is that the Nazis did it to other capitalists. until then the state and interstate politics was a forum for settling the disputes of various capitalists and monopolists among eachother. before ww1 it was capitalists v monarchists and mostly limited to fighting over colonies with proxies, the world wars were the first time industrially advanced capitalist states went directly to war with one another, and it was because of the internal contradictions of capitalist development itself leading to consolidation into monopoly and saturation of technological innovation through the whole of the supply chain necessitating extraterritorial expansion, thats the material foundation of lebensraum.
and obviously fascism also intensifies exploitation abroad, not just at home.
>>2583244>Fascism doesn't target foreign countries with their military for colonization / imperialism? Is that what people are saying? That can't be right.They can. But they don't have to. Pinochet didn't invade Bolivia. Austria under the Fatherland Front didn't do anything to Alto Adige/South Tyrol.
Meanwhile bourgeois democratic regimes can also engage if foreign colonialism, for example Britain and France.
Also, often times fascism can raise FROM finance capital from foreign countries. It really depends on which finance capital dominates the country at the time of the fascist coup. So for example Iran's fascism was mostly supported by British finance capital, since that was the main finance capital in Iran. But fascism can POTENTIALLY be of a domestic bourgeoisie as well.
>>2582784>audio cuts outdidn't he say some shit like "have a good one pal"?
>>2582796Where am I, Kiwifarms? Fuck off.
>>2582860Based response honestly. Power to the babyfurs, death to the MTW sexpats
>>2583260>Austria under the Fatherland Front didn't do anything to Alto Adige/South Tyrol.That's correct but (this is splitting hairs a bit) despite them fashing themselves up a bit in terms of aesthetics, they strike me as more of a conservative-authoritarian regime of which there were a lot of them at the time. More like if Hindenburg had managed to set up an authoritarian state in Germany instead of the Nazis. The national socialists tried to overthrow them.
Some trivia but Dolfuss was also really tiny, he was less than 5 feet tall.
>>2582777>bdsm doctorlost my shit fucking lol
>>2583117>>2583172>teaching the younguns modesty early🙏
>>2582785Their fault for being psychos online.
>>2583295Yeah it's a doctored clip to make it seem more awkward
>>2583117Everyone (Yes EVERYONE) does the first one because we (Yes WE) are all NEETS who hate human contact and are afraid but will clown on them for being based.
>>2583169Any luck he'll come down with a spot of the old Kirk Neck.
>>2582811Was it you, anon? Be honest.
>>2583432>we (Yes WE) are all NEETS who hate human contact and are afraidYWNBAL
>>2583177Having too many "What is fascism" debates isnt as much of a problem as actually existing fascism.
ICP says whole capitalist world is fascist now. You can call any government/regime in the world fascist now.
>>2583494they are correct
>>2583494The Italian Communist Party are fascists.
>>2583499this is correct too
>>2583244>a big thing in the fascists' own worldviewFascism doesnt have an unified coherent worldview.
>It's an action-oriented ideology.As people already pointed out, its not an ideology either. This is just part of the liberal mythology about fascism.
You are too obssesed with the subjective/cultural element and keep missing the point.
Do better.
>>2583299What? Do you think that post is transphobic?
>>2583301>>2583514 and
>>2583299 are probably same person. Either troll or massively retarded tourist.
>>2583031based rockhill clipper
>>2583276If I was a Jewish person I would NOT be looking forward to the blowback that comes as a result of the rhetoric and actions of Zionists.
>>2583530Zionists are literally the biggest threat to Jewish people.
>Nick Fuentes sits down with Crowder!
Youtube is a psychological warfare platform.
>>2583612two more closeted gays having a flirting session
>>2583530Actually as a jewish person there is a 60% chance you would be Zionist, take that as you will.
>>2583637It was 80 until this year
>>2583530If I was Jewish I would renounce my jewish identity. They're probably already an atheist, no need to stay in a tribe as blood thirsty as the one you share with zionazis
>>2583667i always feel bad looking at broken souls like this
>>2583679Someone has never been to a funeral.
>>2583684i keep forgetting this place is full of autists
>>2583694Why are you, as presumably a white man, watching and reposting this stuff?
>>2583704what does race have to do with it…?
>>2583112I remember I came across one of these but with richard wolffe
Eurovision organisers just held their vote and decided to include Israel in the 2026 competition.
Spain, The Netherlands, Ireland and Slovenia have decided they will boycott 2026's competition and refuse to broadcast it.
Iceland, Belgium, and Finland are debating whether to boycott and will announce decisions in the next few days.
Some nations such as Germany, Austria, and the UK have voiced their support for Israel's participation.
At the rate it's going, it's possible only half the nations will be competing in the end.
>>2583203WHEN I LOOK AT YOU I DONT KNOW WHATS REAL
I miss my ex sometimes only women who thought I was worth while >>2583670these 'broken souls' have more money, fuck more bitches and smoke better weed than you, white boy
>>2583673I think it's lowkey a positive sign that despite trying so much to lionizie charlie kirk from the fucking president himself, he has become even more of a joke in social media than when he was alive
>>2583769and wheres the love?
>>2583772what are you talking about? they are linking up, linking up is an act of love.
>>2583784they must have great mental health, then.
>>2583783What's up with rightoid schizos trying to co-opt pirate flags?
Isn't taking the wealth from the elites immoral, unchristian, and a violation of the NAP?
>>2583783I think you're attributing too much intellectual analysis to the right-wing then what is actually there. Most don't criticize capitalism because they think communism/socialism is an ideology where straight, white men, are all going to become enslaved to some "mysterious" force. It's why at some places like 4cucks /v/ you will see people ranting and raving about how modern corporations are evil and how all modern games are corporate slop never come to conclusion that the cause of this is capitalism itself. They immediately assume communism is some evil ideology from the start so the problem must just be that "duh jooz own corporations/banks now and corrupted capitalism."
>>2583783>ever notice how right-wing material analysis never criticises capitalism itself, but only "bankers"? yes? "capitalism is perfect but bad actors are corrupting it" is quintessential liberalism
>>2583911>>2583783its easier to focus on bankers since they usually have flash cars, luxury lifestyles, their work involves esoteric investment assets are are too complicated and basically create money out of nothing, so its easier for normies to criticise without criticing the whole of capitalism.
>>2583783The petit booj mindset is that of perpetual fighting against larger porkies while also doing everything in their power to fuck over proles or not end up joining their ranks.
People like this have always been the historical base of fascism and shit like anti-Semitism and anti-globalism are one of their biggest ideological tools.
>>2583917Yeah
>they don't do REAL work>they just make money off of other people>they're just rich because they're rich>they don't make anything<unlike ME, who's earned everything from the SWEAT of his BROWAnd let's not to forget the perennial favorite
>they're just JEWS >>2583908the poo fetish content and the pedo_troll reddit account kind of change the stories about his kids eating dogshit from neglect into something far more sinister.
Total Ethan Win
>>2583932>day 120>still no proof of child neglectSnarksister…
>>2583940Legally forcing this chick to read an "apology" letter (more like an humiliation ritual) written by the KKKleins is genuinely one of the most awful cases of online sadism I've ever seen. Not even KiwiFarms trolls are this bad…
>Even sanic is forced to call him pedo_troll
Total snark victory
>>2583982even now pedo_troll and the raider of ramallah have so much social capital that if they just kept the toxic thoughts to themselves, and were only private zionists they could turn it around. instead they're courting the edgy chuds on LSF and the asmongold chat. this is no doubt entertaining to chuds on reddit, but ultimately that crowd is not interested in libtarded middle aged jews. they're alienating the celebrity gossip audience they cultivated with the help of wojicki in real time, and the n-word f-slur audience is long gone.
they seem to want this. it's like some kind of martyr complex.
>>2583982God willing it continues to decline
>>2583982>>2583994>>2584007>>2584012okay maybe he's not doing great lately, but at least he's not as bad as Nick Fuentes, right bros? Nick Fuentes is a racist fascist misogynist piece of shit. You condemn Nick Fuentes right? You don't actually think Nick Fuentes is based right? We can all agree Fuentes is a lot worse than Ethan Klein, right?
>>2584018Ethan Klein is also a racist, fascist and misogynist piece of shit. So why are you sucking his dick and not lil Nicky's?
>>2584018I reject the premise of this post, it's like comparing cancer and hiv: not only is it distasteful to compare them, it's fucked up that either of them exist.
>>2584018Nick fuentes is hot
ethan klein isnt
>>2584018nick fuentes is at least dividing the us online rightoids and
ACCELERATING THE COLLAPSE OF THE UNITED STATES he is therefore less bad than Pedo_troll since Pedo_troll is just jerking off to the thought of suing people
UNCRITICAL SUPPORT TO THE GAY LATINX CATBOY IN DIVIDING THE UNITED STATES
The pedo_troll sanic guy is a troll btw, no Eichmann KKKlein defender would ever come here they all congerate reddit. Keep that in mind if you engage him.
>>2584018Ethan Klein is at least just as bad. Probably worse. Disgusting zionist worm. The only reason you'd think he's better than Fuentes is because he "presents" as a liberal. They're both genocidal freaks, and Ethan is simply worse to look at.
>>2584028nick fuentes is against the US arming Israel, do let me know when has pedo troll has even come close to this
>>2584018I'm sorry but I'm going with the chuds on this one, chuds > zionists
>>2584045When has he ever been wrong
How have you not grown out of Hasan "Graham Platner is my GOAT!" Piker yet
>>2584048hes wrong about his teeth brushing routine thats for sure
>>2584045this uygha will keep growing bigger and then sell out like the rest of them, but for now he is still the undisputed goat of leftist internet figures.
>>2584053all the argentinians i've interacted with have fucked up teeth, so maybe he's just culturally integrating
>>2584054he can't grow bigger because he likes winning arguments on xitter a lot, he's a pretty detestable guy overall
>>2584056doesn't matter, his message is strong and never seen before presented that way on the internet, he is the third worldist destiny
>>2584028>my heart goes out to the suffering in gazathe only thing this clown ever did for gaza was donate $3k during a stream in which he was buying $25k watches.
the things he's done to perpetuate genocide are so numerous it feels absurd when listing them. instead I want to talk about the one that disgusted me the most:
> ethan greenscreened himself into footage of a settler hate group> they were destroying humanitarian aid while guarded by the idf> he stated they were volunteers helping gaza> he used this as the basis for a not all israelis argumentthe combination of cynicism, irony, cruelty, and shameless lying in the face of documentary evidence isn't just a flaw in ethan's character, it's typical of all zionists.
>>2584045I still like them both. BE for his integrity and hasan for his charisma and reach. drama is internet crack and I'd rather people debated the distinctions between their positions than be entertained and subtly influenced by far right sickos.
>>2584045kinda insane how much anger and seethe hasan generates considering he's a boring lib with the political opinion equivalent of dry white toast
>>2584064>I still like them both. BE for his integrity and hasan for his charisma and reach. drama is internet crack and I'd rather people debated the distinctions between their positions than be entertained and subtly influenced by far right sickos.fair enough
>>2584067>shit Ethan has never saidNice try Hasanbro
>>2584060that doesn't matter, the message is new
>>2584067This stupid fuck and his cringe Islamist supporting fauxcialists have literally killed socialism's future.
>>2584045>FedNot everyone who thinks the american left is a meme is a fed bro.
>>2584073>>2584082ok, but ur mum gay.
>>2584103
is dr. soystein a porky all of a sudden? I'm not up to date on the sore (soy lore)
>>2584048The only thing he is wrong about is China not being socialist
>>2584045>a real leftist would give all their money to charityliberal take tbh
>>2584120Fetterman was always staunchly Zionist.
>>2584120better than letting an even worse person win
>>2584122groypers are gonna hate that
>>2584045BE keeps winning
Hasan stans are gonna pop a gasket once the midterms get going. And the have to defend the most transparent Democrat shilling ever. There is little room to split the foreign policy during the cold war and it's only going to get smaller. It already played a significant role last election and so it will going forward. Things like re-colonizing Gaza aren't going away anymore because there is decades of more and worse to come to win the cold war.
If not now, soon, there won't be anyone in the US two party system you can't point to as a little Kissinger. Who hasn't kissed the ring of Zionism or US imperialism at some point to progress their career.
Which leaves the "progressive"/"left" wings of the Democrats with nowhere to move but right, along the rest of the party.
>>2584134>voters are more anti-zionist than ever>prominent anti-zionists are winning elections>uhhhh things are actually getting bad now because… they just ARE, OKAY? BE SAD!demotivationals are the worst honestly
have to wonder if it's hasbara playing both sides
>>2584122we should just ban sex
>>2584136>prominent anti-zionists are winning electionsWho besides mamdani
>>2584018Fuentes at the very least doesn't abuse his children, employees, pets and isn't married to a war criminal.
>>2584063>>2584120fetterman 2 is optimistic, he's contesting a republican stalwart from the bush era. he's probably going to lose. in light of this there would be no material consequences to staying the course even if he's scuffed, in practice of course he's seriously alienating to idealists, and it doesn't make intuitive sense to run such an obvious wrecker.
the unions in maine like him. this is not unexpected because they represent automotive and shipyard workers primarily employed making military vehicles and boats. this is also why he's a china hawk and playing up his veterancy.
electoral politics, representative democracy, the party machine, everything is obviously rigged against the left. it's still a game that needs to be played, if only to dispel the illusion of consent. every seat denied to trump makes the road to dictatorship in 2029 a little bit harder.
>>2584134the dems can either sell a clawback of trumpist policy or get owned by greens and PSL. the play for the repubs is to illegally run trump to galvanise the dem vote and block left populists from gaining a balance of power position that would quickly expose the defacto coalition of dems and repubs.
>>258412225!? That's still a child. Adolescence doesn't end till after 30.
>>2584139Yes. Every week all men of the village shall spill their seed into the sacred trough and all fertile women shall bath in it. And in this way all the children begot shall belong in common to the village. Just as Prophet Marx and Saint Engles foresaw.
>>2584139This. All sex is rape. Communist society will do away with animalistic unproductivities.
>>2584195I can fix her
I want her to tie me up
>>2584195She was a dumbfuck back when she was hanging around Armoured Skeptic and nothing has changed.
>>2584221liberal women are witches that turn communists into drooling simps
>>2584265if becoming a fucking liberal is the only way to get a cute sub bf then i gotta renounce my "tankie" afflictions
>>2584279He probably won't be cute. At not by your standards probably
>>2584289mr. mind reader, what am i thinking of right now?
Netflix just bought Warner Bros lmao.
RIP movie theaters. It's all just going to be streaming slop from now on…
>>2584293I don't think I can say those things. Even here
>>2584367god, elon is such a fucking pussy turned xitter into a chud hell hole and still tries to do the "im not right im an enlightened centrist!" act
>>2584063>We gotta support the dems because of le hecking ebil republicansI'm begging you to let go of your political devotion to the liberal wing of the american uniparty
>>2584427why is she using a white poles music in her idpol pozzed rambling?
>>2584427Haitian Revolution was an outlier. Slave revolts have happened throughout history but this was the only one in all of human history that succeeded. Overwhelming majority of population was enslaved with overly brutal conditions on an island an ocean away from the main force of the slaver government which was going through their own revolution. When France finally got an army together the majority were killed by diseases and Napoleon decided to focus on conquering Europe. Basically all the stars aligned for them to succeed
And after they won they ended conforming to the larger economic systems around them anyway. There were several "empires," for awhile they effectively reimposed slavery and ran their economy just as capitalist as the world around them.
It's not a model for workers revolution or a challenge to Marxism at all.
>>2584427Israel pilled. Welcome back Sakai.
>>2584302Musk is jelly that American Hitler won't be him but a gay twink
>>2584195>how is this dumb Ewhore still even relevantShe's hot
>>2584460What happened here?
>>2584384>slop this slop thatWhy?
>>2584502Because that's exactly what it is.
Bland and mass produced for consumption.
>>2584511Is Die Hard starring Bruce Willis slop?
>>2584555Absoltely. Pure actionslop.
>>2584555yes its qualityslop. people only like it because its good
>>2584367>he's a fedWhat is this cunt on about? Doesn't he survive on federal contracts and agreements for his wealth almoat exclusively?
>>2584555That's a pretty well made action movie.
There was slop then. Speed 2 for example.
It's not as bad as it is now. Comedy films don't exist anymore. Dramas barely exist either.
Is Cliffhanger starring Silvester Stallone slop?
Are Adam Sandler's movies slop?
>>2584208>fuenteslopkeep it
>>2584594How is foreign languages a hobby? Do they mean learning it or just applying to your day to day activities? Like listening to music or media from another language or interacting with people in that language. What if you grew up with that language? Is it still a hobby?
>>2584594Porn as hobby Jesus Christ
Fire when ready Xi
>>2584594>caring about woman's opinions on your shit.no thanks, i'm not spineless and i like what i like.
>>2584585I'm sorry, but who the fuck would willingly bang this woman even for free? Thank God for based Indonesia and Islam.
>>2584594makes me laugh how gambling is seen as less attractive than porn as a hobby
>>2584195I used to simp for her before she married that Conservacuck and had a kid. What a waste man. A good communist man could have fixed her.
>>2584604For free? I would.
>>2584585Imagine being some Indonesian teenager and she pulls up and asks if you want to fuck? I don't know guys I might consider it. Fucking prudes not letting young men gain experience.
>>2584622Nah she's disgusting
>>2584630It is not being a prude this woman has fucked hundreds upon hundreds of men. This is beyond just being a trad cuck to he repulsed by this.
>>2584632>cuckyou not getting cheated on and accepting it, you just fucking her, no relationships, how mentally retarded you need to be to believe you are a cuck for having sex ?
>>2584638I didn't mean I literal cuck. I meant that it does not require being a guy obsessed with being trad to be repulsed by this woman with the level of this she does. I absolutely positively would not touch this woman even if I was paid.
>>2584639meh, sounds like a you problem.
>>2584640Nah it's not a problem at all. I can choose who I want to interact with. I have zero interest in such a person.
>>2584585She dosent even do most of this stuff, guarantee you. She's probably a lot smarter than she let's on with the 'bimbo' routine, and knows men will believe anything like this because they really just want to. Knows the press will repeat it all, not letting due diligence of finding out the facts ruing a good salacious story, especially when it comes straight from her mouth .
>>2584641suit yourself, nothing wrong with her tho.
>>2584594I'm calling nans women like cosplay if it's well done. More chicks do it than guys.
>>2584630Indogs and SEAmonkeys in general are the most horny people around.
>>2584646so they are less tethered to western christian spooks than most.
>>2584607It blows my mind the whores conservatives date. They talk about how body counts and kids matter but then they marry women that have had multiple past husbands and multiple kids.
Or in this case is a prostitute
>>2584648>spooksKYS egoist
>>2584639Look, I don't find her attractive either, but
discust at what she claims she does is reactionary thinking.
Also buying right in to her playbook, btw.
>>2584594>ReadingWe're in, lads!
<Arguing onlineDamn. It's over.
>>2584681I don't care how you perceive me for it or what you call me. I am disgusted by it
>>2584604I know an Indian bloke who used to have an only fans, and he fucked her. Don't think he had much of a fan base either, seems it's not so difficult
>>2584585she look weird. she has a weird face.
>>2584630It's not being prudes
I don't care how many men a woman sleeps with. It's that she is a prostitute. She is a labor deserter. She paints prostitution in a positive light and young girls try to emulate it. Like 25% of 11 year old girls now think being a cam whore is a legitimate career
>>2584662no, i'm gonna stretch you.
>>2584704>She is a labor desertermeme categories got updated
> She paints prostitution in a positive light and young girls try to emulate it.doesn't work that way, army recruiters try to paint the army as hip and cool all the time but the real reason people enlist is the Healthcare, job security and free education, people arent so mentally open that just being positive about something will convert people into acting on it, it's a very infantilizing view on people.
> Like 25% of 11 year old girls now think being a cam whore is a legitimate careerwhen majority of jobs are either inacessible because the recruiters gatekeep workers through experience or have low pay and miserable conditions a woman will look at shit like only fans paying big bucks for showing their ass like a legitimate alternative, people laugh at that image where the chinese kids dreams of becoming astronauts and americans dream of becoming youtubers but never ask why, money is why, even midling youtubers get enough money to live comfortable lives compared to most.
this not only applies to the US but every neoliberal shithole in the world, jobs like these are still more profitable compared to the alternative, the only way to change it would be reindustrialization but tough luck lmao.
>>2584427>implying slaves aren’t a classBruh, wut?
>>2584731This reads like rape apologia
>>2584742Occupied Korea is cooked
>>2584748this reads like a twitter user throwing rape and pedophilia to make something stick.
>>2584773Thank you for this
>>2584776your welcome comrade
>>2584731Prostitution is a unique form of exploitation, we must fight to end it. We should not jump into bed with lumpen-bourgoise pornography, that continue the cycle of sexual exploitation that our young women face.
Women have the ability to be workers too and they should, not being housewives and prostitutes that exchange their sexual acts for material benefits.
>>2584604>Thank God for based Indonesia and IslamSaudi clay
>>2584787cool and dandy words and slogans, how you gonna give better jobs that supplant sex work being a better job for subexistance than common work ?.
>>2584912
>We can therefore list as factors responsible for prostitution: low wages, social inequalities, the economic dependence of women upon men, and the unhealthy custom by which women expect to he supported in return for sexual favours instead of in return for their labour.
literally my entire point.
good words and slogans won't change material reality of modern day work being garbage and being a cam whore being far more rewarding.
>>2584502Most Netflix original movies are of very poor quality
>>2584917
you posted an asmouyghur opinion in my eyes, gas yourself.
>>2584926if you can't even shower yourself or clean your trash ass room your opinion should be censored, if you follow someone that does that your opinion should be censored by proxy.
>inb4 isn't that peterson's idea of clean your roomhe didn't clean his ass room either, anyone that follows his shitty ideas should also be censored.
>>2584923It's unironically a good thing that sex work evolves from prostitution into the camgirl/OnlyFans model of today. Not only is it less exploitative and dangerous for the people involved but it also centralizes labor under a monopoly (bigger chance of developing class consciousness).
>>2584936i mean, less bad, but the goal is end the exploitation completely, and there is no real way of doing it without tackling the material needs of the said workers.
>>2584936>sex workGo to reddit you liberal
>>2585002Theatres will be fine, people don't go to them because of exclusivity windows but because they give a better experience than watching them at 480p on 123movies on your phone.
>>2585002Can I cancel HBO max then? Will all that come to Netflix
>>2585030seems like it, but my bet is that netflix will release a premium package for HBO content
>>2584949We need to teach these young women skills too. That will be part of the process. Trial and execution of all digital pimps. All virtual whores get sent to vocational schools to learn to work and learn about exploitation and social theory
>>2585021Yeah but with tickets becoming more and more expensive, everyone turning into an introvert piece of shit and the proliferation of smart TVs, most people would rather just wait till The Batman part II comes to Netflix in 2 more weeks than watching it at the cinema
>>2585039cinemas have never been places for socialization, unless it's one of the hipster cinemas that have a bar attached that play movie cycles with retrospective and stuff, which is probably how cinemas will barely survive in the future
>>2584742>>2584766I vaguely remember south korean women using that emoji as a symbol for tiny south korean hot dog to protest all the rape and voyeurism. he really is an incel.
>>2585039I just go to the cinema to watch anime films
>>2585059I just don't watch movies
>>2585064Do you at least read fiction?
>>2585070Not really. Not anymore. Maybe I'll watch some old movie on a streaming service every once in a while but much less than in the past.
>>2584917
Nice pro slavery dog whistle
And this is this the guy who cries when people point out he killed his own mother
>>2585121100% true and reality-pilled.
>>2585121Well western imperialists didn't invent circumcision so theirs a bit more blame than that
>>2585142They didn't invent bombs either but they sure do use those to make things worse around the world.
>>2585188
Racist deserved it.
>>2584643>men will believe anything like this because they really just want toTrue. Prostitutes and nymphomania don't exist. It's all just some crazy fetish some men fantasize about. She's clearly playing 1000d chess.
>>2584681>discust at what she claims she does is reactionary thinking.Just as social inducement of vomiting protects you from poisonous food, disgust evolved to protect you from transmissible diseases and unsanitary conditions.
>>2585197
Not that Anon, but I say yes.
>>2585037>le skillswithout jobs to apply these skills for they are meaningless, guess why there are so many STEM girls working on onlyfans.
>Trial and execution of all digital pimps. All virtual whores get sent to vocational schools to learn to work and learn about exploitation and social theoryyea you lost it and is just playing revolutionary wanting to jail and execute everyone with no power to do so, not a single way to fix the problem currently, we all talk of socialism fixing it, okay, it's obvious in a revolution it's easy to fix that, but we aren't in a post revolutionary world, we are in a neoliberal order, so sperging over people coming to cam whoring to better their lives is meaningless hogwash that don't fix nothing and bring nothing to the table.
>>2585203>disgust evolved to protect you from transmissible diseases and unsanitary conditions.kids learn to be disgusted at brocolli from childrens movies calling it icky even when it does nothing against them.
bigger kids(adults) learn to be disgusted at sex from fictional mithological tales taken seriously by society for a thousand years.
>>2585021It will take a while but eventually only cinephiles will keep going to theaters and only if they show high quality film reels. Unironically if you sit slightly closer to a decent monitor with good earphones you will have a better movie experience than the digital projection theaters use and with the bonus of not potentially having other people or bad seating to ruin it. Also most pirate streamsites have 1080p these days.
>>2585188Showing the attacker was provoked doesn't absolve him of all responsibility, it just shows the attack was not premeditated. He should still face some punishment for attacking someone with a knife.
You know they made the wrong decision when you apply this to other situations. Should men be allowed to beat their wives because she proved him by saying something mean?
>>2585228While you have a point about mistaken social learning of things like broccoli, it's still an emotion that at it's base exists protects people from potential harm. Until humanity defeats STDs it's good to be cautious about randomly have sex with lots of people.
>>2585212
Because racists are filth. Society goes too easy on them.
>>2585195>>2585270This kind of retard sakaism is anything but helpful in addressing actual racism (hint: it doesn't come from people riding the bus, no matter what your "lived experience" is.)
Rudeness and racialism doesn't warrant death, and it's indicative of zoom-zoom culture to go to extremes like this. Actual racism comes from the bourgeoisie, their theological ideology, their culture, but most of all the material conditions that the working class are under.
>>2585275Zoomers are more racist than your generation though
>>2585280Good example, but World Liberty Financial, the majority of his wealth, deals exclusively in speculative fictional capital not tied to any businesses, real estate, or employment, and therefore cannot inflict racism. It'll be different when he inherents his dad's empire.
>>2584742I want to meet a korean incel irl and do the emoji in his face one day, it would make my dream come true
>>2585059Wasn't Trump planning a tariff on all foreign movies?
Sorry but unless it's Hollywood, it ain't gonna be shown on theaters.
J6 bomb guy was a brony
>>2584632If you're upset by this but not the fact that men will shake hands with thousands of other men then you are just a hypocrite and prude.
>>2585275I'm not a sakaist lmao, and its not about the individual words or whatever. People who use the n word in public as a racial insult in someone's face are the worst reactionaries. It's not worth winning these extreme right-wingers over. Spend your effort on the undecided. These reactionaries will just spend their lives serving the capitalist / fascist cause, and they will fight against you in a revolutionary war. Them being killed is an objective boon to the socialist cause.
>>2585300Not everyone is an AmeriKKKan
>>2584643The 1000 men in one day thing is completely fake outrage bait to promote herself. The "proof" of it amounted to a picture of a single guy in a ski mask. People cannot help themselves from falling for outrage bait, it's the easiest way to promote yourself.
>>2585343NTA but somewhat agree here. I've had my share of heated gamer moments but never called a black person that to their face. I won't lose sleep if someone like that gets stabbed.
>>2585343>>2585373Racism is cultural. Using racial insults instead of other types of insults is also cultural. Only liberals think it's an individual moral failing that proves someone is innately evil.
>>2585379It looks tasty
>>2585383Nonsense
>>2585384Racial categories themselves are cultural. Using a racial category as an insult couldn't exist in an individualized vacuum.
>>2585389I'm glad I could help give an image for your bait thread.
>>2585400Well I didn't make it but okay. Just recognized this site and decided to try to find the original.
>>2584594>reading>attractiveI legit mad over this
is MTG Magic The Gathering?
>>2585422evendoe all stock exchanges and investments have always ran on predications
>>2585343Please provide a list of appropriate insults/slurs to call someone after they stab you.
For me, if you stabbed me it would probably be
BABY BOILING BASTARD >>2585406Reading is such a broad generic category it should be divided into different genres so women would give more detailed response.
I bet the average woman would vote sci-fi and history as the least attractive with exceptions given to some Anne Boleyn hagiography lol
>>2585437
Most of these rightwing immigrants just become evangelical conservatives or free market radical libertarians. Imagine being retarded enough to align with a white nationalist movement while not being white yourself, kek.
>>2585460
Reminds me of that one video of the women paying to scream in a forest
>>2585470
I noticed he has a tendency to insult viewers that send him money to read their messages. Imagine sending money to your ideological idol just for him to insult you in a 3 minute rant, maybe groypers have a paypig fetish?
>>2585460
>What is the political implication of these "men's retreats" where adult men are encouraged to scream and cry?
Liberal Feminism has pushed misandry as far as it goes without getting all exclusive and touching the profits. So it follows that we see a commodification of male identity similar to liberal feminism, by the same rulebook. But it's tough nowadays because unlike foids, males can't get away with having a gender identity separate from sexual preference. Malehood is toxic and more malehood is more toxic. Deviation from *malehood as a defect* tends to be lumped with other identity categories as if those are necessary to fill the gaps or compensate the inherent badness of being male.
Ask if one can be any degree of womanly without being a lesbian and it's a no-brainer. Ask the same about males and there is an intrinsic link with homosexuality, the exclusion of which is seen as homophobia.
>>2585470
>You came here uninvited
Isn't that how white people got here though? I swear these mother fuckers want it both ways, they will use "Survival of the fittest" or "The right of conquest" to justify indigenous genocide but then complain about immigrants, hypothetically if immigrants were taking over the way they say they are wouldn't that just be an ultimate skill issue?
>>2585197
yes
>>2585557
Worthless empty rethoric. He said nothing. Of course people believe different things using the same words.
>>2585555>crusader>orthodoxpottery
>>2585258He's a multi millionare who's mother was on oxygen and rather than use his wealth buy her around the clock care he let her stay in their rotting and roach infested house and do what she wanted inluding smoke cigarettes which led to her setting herself on fire because pure oxygen is extremely flammable and that's how she died, due to neglect
>>2585615I mean, she sounds like she deserved no less.
>>2585555lmao, did he have the dickhead helmet custom made? seeing his bug eyes peeking out from either side of the frenulum is fucking hilarious. also, your AI subtitles suck bro, he clearly opened the video with "call me a nonce".
>>2584949It's easier to phase out onlyfans exploitation that hard prostitution.
>>2585627onlyfans deliberately gives money to israel and the idf, not just incidentally like all yank companies.
>>2585621>lmao, did he have the dickhead helmet custom made?Doubt it, but it probably was made by a hobbyist.
>>2585555Looking closer it's not even a medieval style helmet but an ancient Greek Corinthian style. Attic helmets look cooler but it's mostly associated with pagan Rome and they threw Christians to lions.
>>2585555>I'm a proud christian jihadistYep, another fascist. Who is he trying to fool?
>>2585555Checked or whatever.
Anyway unchecked gayness like unchecked heterosexuality always leads to fascism, because fascism is just unchecked sexual violence.
Why is Bad Empanada being harassed by queer and kinky idpol-obsessed sex pests (not saying that being queer and kinky makes you a sex pest but those people happen to be both)? Are these the dying fragments of the shattered Vowshite/other streamer community and the desperate shocktroops of the dying imperialist psy-op that is breadtube?
>>2585691no, it's just mental illness and regular amerikkkant hyper-individualist entitlement.
>>2585691He devalues trans struggle as opposed to Palestinian struggle and there's enough proof up top that BE is legitimately just adopting wrecker tactics either knowingly or unknowingly white washing the Nazis, which gives the queers a valid bone to pick.
>>2585698How come those queers aren't picking their bones with the ultra-prominent self-declared queer voices and representatives like toobz and contra who are straight up genocidal liberal zionists at this point?
>>2585698Do you think weaponized sexual harassment, something Vowsh loved to do, is a valid form of policial praxis?
>>2585704Nice Nazi beloved image nerd.
>>2585702Oh no fuck Agent Kochinski and fuck all the queers against BE but they have good reason to be against him.
>>2585701Contrapoints hasn't come out to white wash Nazis yet and for some reason BE
felt it was a great idea to pull out that card, kind of self explanatory, not that you should anyway, just that people can see why.
>>2585698>he prioritizes the struggle of the people who are being currently exterminatedI don't even like bad empanada, but this is just as dumb as his nazi whitewashing.
>>2585708BE came out and made it a issue about the importance of each struggle, something beyond retarded to measure, where does he stand on how important Israel vs Palestine is compared to Sudan?
He could have just I don't know, stayed quiet, and not said retarded shit but BE's problem is that he does, and he always does from a political view point, say what you will about Hasan or Agent Kochinski it's always something like they're abusive or animal rapists, that's not political, they're just assholes, BE's controversies are that he said Hitler would be a kinder leader if he occupied Palestine than Bibi out of nowhere abruptly on stream.
>>2585271
I‘m completely serious you halfwit.
>>2585707>Contrapoints hasn't come out to white wash NazisWhat about her whitewashing Hilary Clinton?
>>2585188Based black 4chan user.
Shouldn't have said the n word needs to be memed into reality even when whites didn't say it.
>>2585711Hilldawg is a fascist not a Nazi.
>>2585713>trccnLeast obvious /pol/ user ITT.
>>2585709>where does he stand on how important Israel vs Palestine is compared to Sudan?This is quite literally a zionist talking point.
tbf empanada sometimes says edgelord shit just to keep his left-gremlin persona going
>>2585716He was right on the money when calling out toobz and contra. Opportunist theater kids that make pseudo-intellectual videos.
>>2585716He can say that it's ok to kill Israeli babies without platforming Nazi talking points.
If you reply to this with "But that sounds like the same–" or similar you are an idiot and also an actual Zionist.
>>2585715And it's a pretty valid one the moment that BE opened the door by falling into the trap anyway over trans rights of all things, I don't disagree but he quite literally did it first.
>>2585188
Cool
>>2585707Explain how BE whitewashed the Nazis
>>2585698He is a bit of a moralist but most ethical systems, including potential proletariat ethics, would place thousands of Palestian children being killed for land over an Americans getting misgendered at Chipotle
>>2585221Sure thing coomer
>>2585730How is that white washing Nazis, that's just the truth
>>2585539What a coincidence I have a PHD in Gothic BDSM in Metroid-vanias!
>>2585707>Nice Nazi beloved image nerd.Is there any evidence of actual existing nazis loving that image or is this a case of you looking for nazis under your bed meanwhile your taxes fund a genocidal ethnostate, treatlerite? Also why should I give a damn if they like that image? Am I commiting a hecking anti-semitism? The nazis liked Wagner, does this mean no one should listen to his music?
>>2585730Why is this whitewashing? You are just posting an image and not elaborating on why your description of it is accurate.
>>2585615This is so fucking cartoonish I struggle believing it's real
>>2585746>>2585736>Dude the Nazis were like hecking wholesome to their own citizens and were heckin pro labor and socialist and wanted to help them they were only bigoted to outgroups. This is literally step one in white washing the Nazis.
>>2585555>Claims to be Orthodox Christian>Catholic Crusader flag>Corinthian helmet used by pre-Christian pagans.There's plenty of writing and discourse out there about how 80% fascism is just pure aesthetics instead of an actually coherent ideology, but goddamn.
>>2585753Wrong. Israel is not a fascist state, it's not at all comparable to Nazi Germany. Israel is a democracy of and for Israeli Jews, and as such they have all sorts of socdem parties, protesting rights, and independent trade unions to act as guarantors of their benefits. Israelis don't need any sort of Gestapo because they simply fully agree with Zionism.
No such freedoms existed in Nazi Germany because it was a government first and foremost for the interests of conglomerates like Krupp, IG Farben, etc.
Why BE says the Nazis were so concerned about German labor conditions when empirically German labor deaths dramatically increased under Nazi rule even in peacetime is beyond me.
>>2585753>BE's response is literally just "They would have gotten no support if they didn't offer benefits to their people."Hitler literally got put on a leash by Hindenburg who died and used political maneuvering not votes, he got backing from major enterprises, BE's entire post rests on the idea that you and his viewers are historically illiterate enough to forget this but focus on some quote from some book that claims this.
>Germany is similar in arrangement to IsraelNo, did he mean to say it's as bad as Nazi Germany in many ways? Sure. Does he mean it benefits the people there? If he does, Nazi Germany didn't, it sent them to war and made them wartime commodities.
Awful response.
>>2585759I'm not calling any of the German people victims, I'm saying they're retards who fell for a scammer, fuck them and fuck all crackers, I don't give a fuck retard. The land had fuck all to do with it too which is how I know you're an idiot, Hitler was vying for control of Europe, he didn't need more land physically and literally.
Dumbfuck namefag.
>>2585760>I'm saying they're retards who fell for a scammerSo you consider them scam victims, got it.
>>2585760>Hitler was vying for control of Europe, he didn't need more land physically and literally. Wrong. Read lenin. monopolist imperialists always need to kill and expand
>>2585764They agreed with the lies which were already racist garbage so I would call them deserving victims.
>>2585758>Why BE says the Nazis were so concerned about German labor conditions when empirically German labor deaths dramatically increased under Nazi rule even in peacetime is beyond me.Source? This is pretty hard to find.
Even then even if you don't believe that they put corporate interest above workers they straight up just put military interests above workers, this is like the breaking point of anyone who ever said they gave a fuck about labor.
>>2585766I didn't say Lenin was wrong, or that Hitler wasn't trying to turn the war machine outwards, I said his reasoning wasn't valid at all, neither is Israeli, but you also indirectly support Hitler if you agree with his retarded notion that they needed living space, in Hitlers eyes they needed influence and land was an excuse.
>>2585760>Hitler literally got put on a leash by Hindenburg Put on a leash by being made chancellor of Gemany? Lmao now that's actual whiteashing of history.
>>2585769german capital needed to invade and capture land and resources to feed the whole reich. that is mechanically how imperialism works
>>2585758And the liberal zionist has pulled of their mask revealing that the whole trans thing was just a dishonest front, in reality this person agrees with the brand of liberal zionism of people like contra in principle.
Imperial conquest benefitting even the working class of the nation carrying it out is something Marxists have understood going back to Engels. The problem is saying that therefore Imperialism is with the wellbeing of the national proletariat in mind (it's not, it's done for the sake of bourgoeis investors, and benefit to the nation's proletariat is simply because the two share an economy) or that the imperial government as a whole is beneficial to the proletariat (even in the example of Britain, which enslaved half the world, this was not true).
>but Israel is beneficial to Israelis
WHY is this? It's because Israel guarantees land to Israeli Jews and excludes competitors to Israeli Jews in the labor market. It's not as if Nazism prevented some grand influx of slavs into Germany, in fact if you know anything about Nazi Germany they were constantly trying to entice Slavs to work in Germany.
And yes many farmers especially in the East supported Hitler for the promises of Polish lands. That is true. But most Germans even with the encouragement of settlement were still within post-WWI Germany.
>>2585769What sort of idealist bullshit is 'influence' lmao?
>>2585770Give me the book that says otherwise, that's what modern history says.
>>2585772And yet Hitler chose to get as autistic as possible about invading East instead of West.
It's now about why he did, it's about why he went that way.
>>2585773Liberal Zionism is an ideology held by so many Israelis specifically because Liberalism is not at all contradictory to how Israel functions.
>>2585750The Nazis treated their own well. That's the whole reason why people supported it
>>2585777>Give me the book that says otherwise, that's what modern history says.Modern history said that this was a motivation but not what actually effectively happened. What the fuck are you on about this is some crazy historical revision happening here. lmao
>>2585775The same kind of idealist bullshit Hitler was huffing when he started WW2, you guys suck ass at being able to think like the enemy without agreeing with them judging by how many of you are either idiots or full on homophobic crypto fascists.
>>2585776Considering the conservatives helped Hitler up the ladder yeah unironically, but that's besides the point, the point is they didn't even agree with him until after he won, the ones who remained compliant and didn't go silent or get executed all ended up falling for his bullshit after to get sent to war like idiots. They deserved it.
>>2585779I hate you uyghurs so fucking much.
>>2585774>Nazi Germany they were constantly trying to entice Slavs to work in Germany.That's some crazily euphemistic language for forced labor.
>>2585758You have a libtarded understanding of fascism as an ideology or a fixed checklist rather than a stage of capitalism, same reason why some people here were saying Pinochet was not "real fascism" and just an "authoritarian liberal".
>>2585778Well said. Liberalism was compatible with such human atrocities, slavery, colonialism, imperialism all compatible even with the most progressive liberals of their respected times
And yet Netanyahu chose to get as autistic as possible about invading Gaza instead of the West Bank.
>>2585782>The same kind of idealist bullshit Hitler was huffing when he started WW2, you guys suck ass at being able to think like the enemy without agreeing with them judging by how many of you are either idiots or full on homophobic cryptoYou suck at being able to distinguish the material bases for historical events from their top-level bullshit idealism which for. some reason you take at face value which is something only a crazy person would do.
>>2585781>fascism is when the goverment does repression on the local populationlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtardlibtard
>>2585785You are the one who chalks fascism up just to ethno-supremacist ideology rather than an actual organization of the government. Maybe you live in a la-la land where Israeli Jews don't enjoy the rights they do in Israel, but most people live in a world where they do indeed have freedom of speech, press, the right to protest, go on strike, etc.
>then why don't they use that to fight the genocide?Because they don't care, and for no other reason.
>>2585790Fascism do indeed be a dictatorship of finance capital!
>>2585783>>2585789I don't give a shit if he won or not, the answer is simple, Hitler had to force the imperialist war machine outward to survive, he already had an alliance, I'm sure no one here in /leftypol/ believes the myth that Stalin was about to stab him in the back, why then did he turn eastward and open a double front instead of focusing on taking control of the most aryan populations of Europe to secure their leadership and resources and peoples?
The answer is because past a certain point it's no longer material, he's just retarded. We like to explain everything through material dialectics so it never happens again, but sometimes we forget these people are just retarded, genuinely and that's what there is to it.
Why are we arguing about this?
Who gives a shit?
What the fuck does this have to do with what BE said?
BE Point 1: Israel benefits Israelis. Sure.
BE Point 2: Nazi Germany benefits Germans. Why? How when every single major leftist from 1925 to a year ago has been trying to debunk this retarded claim? Benefit how? There is not a single thing that they did that is anywhere close to as beneficial as Israel, promises maybe, but they never delivered! And those promises are all still distinct from that of modern Israel!
What the fuck is this conversation going to?
Jesus Christ it feels like I'm in a mental asylum arguing with a bunch of schizoids, what the fuck is this?
Crazy how it just takes 5 posts and a user that initially claimed they disagreed with Bad Empanada because of his 'quasi-transphonic language' then jumps into making some crazily revionist claims on Nazi German history and starts posting Israeli apologia which was foreshadowed by the zionist what-about-sudan-talking point.
This just confirms that BadEm was completely correct on his call-out and that he correctly identified this festering pathology that is rampant among American socdems.
>>2585792it do be like that
>>2585795>This just confirms that BadEm was completely correctmany such cases
>Claiming Nazis weren't socialists is Israeli apologia
That's it I can't take it anymore.
I hope white genocide happens, I hope it does, 100% unironically, and I hope it eventually kills BE, Hasan, Agent Kochinski, and the 99% of these retarded bread tubers.
Then I hope Saudi Arabia and China kill everyone else in nuclear war.
Humanity does not deserve to live, and the best thing that can happen to us is extinction.
I'm leaving, fuck this shithole, and fuck this retarded species of literal shit.
>>2585800Go continue writing your thesis on Ludo-gothic bdsm or whatever before you start flashing your penis to everyone.
>>2585800You think what BE pointed out here
>>2585730 is saying the Nazis were socialists? LOL
Funny how all this defense of the Nazis (oh sorry, I mean, the anti-Nazis who were just TWO WEEKS AWAY from the great German Anti-Nazi revolution!) and this apologia for Israel as being a fairyland of freedom are of the same people.
>>2585800Damn bro chill and review the OP, nothing on social media is real
>>2585804>this is a trollYou are whitewashing treatlerites, chud, they really are like this.
>>2585804Sure, Nazi German conquests benefitted Germany and thus benefitted the workers within Germany, just like how Americans benefit from Imperialism in it securing dollar hegemony and how the British workers benefitted from Imperialism in it securing sources of cheap food among other things. The question was never, did Germans ever benefit from a particular policy enabled by conquest. Its, was Nazi Germany of and for the German working people and was its overall policy beneficial to German working people. You know real wages fell and the cost of living rose for German workers even during peacetime under Nazi rule? Doesn't that demonstrate Nazi rule was not looking out in their interest? Even if they supported enslavement of Eastern Europe since it brought cheap food to German markets, the overall architect of that policy was those who created their fall in real wages in the first place.
This pushing of First World workers to see their interest in defeating their ruling class and supporting internationalism not necessarily out of immediate self interest but rather from a broader overall self interest is a pretty foundational attitude of Communist anti-imperialist organization.
>>2585814>Sure, Nazi German conquests benefitted Germany and thus benefitted the workers within GermanyEndgame anti-imperialism lmao
>>2585814Your mistake is that you just assume first world workers have any self-interest in supporting internationalism. Fact of the matter is that the first world are not "potential allies to the world proletariat" as has been pretended for the past 150 years without any tangible evidence to back it up.
First world workers will be defeated, not aligned with. That is how history will be pushed forward.
>>2585799One last thing, what's the book source, Google refuses to give results when typing out the quotes exactly into the search bar.
bruh what is unc crashing out about 💀💀
>>2585794>>why then did he turn eastwardbecause they thought that ussr was weaker than it was, but also that it was rapidly growing stronger. and they knew that ussr was going to be a problem at some point. so they attacked before the ussr grew too strong to challenge
had they waited, a couple years later ussr would indubitably roll through poland and into a germany that would be weakened and spread thin by the uk and greece and north africa and potentially the us. that would be actually existing permanent revolution
>>2585820>without any tangible evidence to back it upConsidering the failure of revolution to materialize around the world (including the vast majority of third world countries) there doesn't seem to be much evidence to back up the contention that workers anywhere have an interest in defeating capitalism and imperialism. At least this is the conclusion we have to come to if we follow third worldist vulgar "materialist" thinking.
>>2585855The eternal butthurt
>>2585761Is that the BDSM doctor?
>>2585855There's plenty of popular revolts in the third world, which would have been communist revolutions if not for all the first world mercenaries killing communists all over the world and going on "peacekeeping" missions.
Bomb your local army base instead of complaining.
>>2585855revolution is something organic and can happen over time. Productive forces must improve, pressure must build, and things need to shift
on average across the globe for the preconditions to arise. People who criticize AES countries like vietnam or china have no fucking clue what communism actually is or looks like, but they assume it means like.. no work, no currency, no cities, no production whatsoever.
They also refuse to differentiate Communism (the political view/methodology for progress) and Communism (the mode of production itself) which is unfortunate and something limited by the language we use that we've inherited from Marx and also a refusal to grapple with that little inconvenience.
While these issues aren't that big a deal for most serious thinkers with basic common sense, it does wind up being a problem for image-boards filled with snarky self important midwits who ignore the whole Marxist quote "regardless of however much he may raise himself subjectively above it".
>>2585820you refuse to think, only want to fight. Because refuse to grapple with your own personal specific psychological issues with agreeability and a constant need for conflict.
Your behavior and general attitude towards cooperation as a concept is something that precludes you from ever taking part in
any kind of collective effort whatsoever, even if you were to try to "organize" the anti-imperialist proletariat or whatever.
>>2585761>>2585869You guys think she's single?
>>2585855>100% of the third world didnt have a bolshevik-tier revolution? heh, that means they are just as cucked as the labor aristocracythis is your brain on treatlerite copium
>>2585880She's def part of some gross polycule, I'm sure you could hit it if you are that down bad
What's a good definition of fascism?
>>2585897Hard Reaction draped in revolutionary clothing to combat crisises in Capital
>>2585897Authoritarian capitalism. Keep it simple to prevent misinterpretation or false propaganda that they care about the workers movement
people ended up tortured and in death camps because of this.
>>2585904
This is just complete bullshit.
>>2585897fascism was never a complete ideology
in the doctrine of fascism, it stresses "totalitarianism", a quasi-hegelian perspective that for society to be self-determined, it must realise its concept in the state. this is inherently relative to each nation, as ᴉuᴉlossnW admits.
>>2585905all capitalism is authoritarian
>>2585908>all capitalism is authoritarianNo shit. This is just extreme form of it.
>>2585909is china a fascist country?
>>2585910is mayonaise fascist?
>>2585910No. Its s poor 3rd world country building up towards socislism. They tried great leap forward and it failed spectacularly so they changed their approach.
>>2585912its authoritarian and its capitalist
according to you, this is fascism
>>2585897A liberal dictatorship instead of a liberal democracy.
>>2585919did ᴉuᴉlossnW write "fascism is when capitalism but authoritarian"? but anon did.
>>2585897pic related
>>2585905>Keep it simple to prevent misinterpretation or false propagandaBy "keeping things simple" is how you get misinterpretation and false propaganda. As someone pointed out, by your definition, China is fascist, which is not correct.
>>2585915ur-fascism =/= fascism
>>2585917This is better to prevent confusion of NEP type of socialism being literally nazis.
>>2585924
>"hitler was based - but stalin won"
>>2585918
Endgame tailism
Me supports it
>>2585933Who is tailing who?
>>2585896Critical support for USA struggle against imperialist nazi EU.
>>2585896Damn campism keeps gettign more complicated
>>2585942Its a multipolar world with multiple imperialist powers conpeting.
>individual states<Coined in the early 20th century, the term "Balkanisation" traces its origins to the depiction of events during the Balkan Wars (1912–1913) and the First World War (1914–1918). It did not emerge during the gradual secession of Balkan nations from the Ottoman Empire over the 19th century, but was coined at the end of the First World War.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanizationas always, capitalism universalizes contradictions to affect everyone. The same class of finance imperialists who broke up the USSR are now working towards privatizing the West
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/harvard-boys-do-russia/ >>2585956isnt that all societies?
if the family is the basic social unit, and all families are cults of loyalty which are often dysfunctional, then all societies are messed up. there is always an in-group and an out-group. there is always good and evil. this sort of duality is just how things work.
>>2585956you are focusing too much on the cultural idiosyncrasies/aesthetics of it
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnn_bWDmizw >>2584917
milady posters for gulag
>>2585996because they are western chauvinists that hate Russia and love "muh heckin social democracy" where the n word is the default term for black people
>>2585889>labour aristocracyStop using terms you don't actually know the meaning of. The labour aristocracy as Lenin used it has been ground down to basically nothing in the West.
>>2586002>tech bros>middle management classtotally doesnt exist in the west
>>2584742I think one of the reasons why NK hasn't tried to reunify the peninsula yet (asides from American presence in the south of course) is the ungodly amount of cultural housecleaning they would need to do in their formerly occupied territory.
>>2585956I think a lot of the discussions about the definition of fascism fall flat because people don't acknowledge that Americans were the proto-fascists and ᴉuᴉlossnW/Hitler got a lot of their inspiration from America and got support from American corporations and industrialists.
>>2585707>Nice Nazi beloved image nerd.Pure revisionism. East Germany was objectively anti-Nazi while West Germany was controlled by literal Nazis who were active members in the Nazi Party under Hitler. kys liberal
>>2585949Reddit the State
>>2585949>iron dome vibes<nice try thoughThey had to accept a ceasefire because they ran out of missiles and if Iran didn't stop the whole country would be reduced to rubble.
>>2586250So I'm guessing this isn't Communist Partie(s) of Amerikkka Conference?
>>2585897Its when the bourgeoisie gets to reduce the role of the state to nothing but a massive private enforcer. In order to get people to consent to this cuckery they pick up a random scapegoat. Violence ensues.
>>2586392I wonder was the "suck it" a commentary on the nature of FGM within the islamic diaspora, especially the somalian communities. If so, the guy's response of "suck what?" makes it that much more poignant.
>>2586423I honestly think when she learned Israel is behind so much fucked up shit, it straight broke her brain.
>>2586475BE flipflops between "my videos are really just entertainment" and "my videos are like Iskra" like a metronome.
>>2586685>>2586693Turns out on-screen comedic abilities for your little community doesn't translate to real-life standup skills. Though showing up to an American award show with a Mao suit is based.
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