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CORE THEORY >The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord📖 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ
<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin📖 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA
>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer📓 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY
<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-0.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE
>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs
<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault📖 •
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko
>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard 📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-1.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs
<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M
>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-2.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4
<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze 📖 •
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY
>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-3.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4k26xGx1zI
<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida📖 •
https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q
>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI—————————————————–
SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL
>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory📖 •
Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of
Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm📺 •
Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30📖 •
Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of
History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm📺 •
Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI 📖 •
Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of
Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm📺 •
Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo📖 •
Louis Althusser -
Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm📺 •
Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw
<Documentaries•
The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA•
Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I•
The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and
The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc•
HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco
>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)•
We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y•
Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg•
The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs•
Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw•
The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI
<Situationist Archives•
https://situationist.org/•
https://notbored.org/SI.html•
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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS•
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/•
Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys•
Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing>>2918616on this, he's right though
>>2918627not really. that has no bearing on the point he made about USians majority investment, participation, and/or indifference to the imposition of the imperialism that maintains their
relative (yes yes i know your rent is very high and you don´t like your job) privilege in the global economy. which is objectively true in itself.
>>2918330the real ones all stopped playing at least 10 years ago
>>2918638halo 5 was ten years ago anon
>>2918639IMO the series ended with Halo 3
>>291862793% of the US population don't join the military. just guillotine the 7% that do and call it a day already
>>2918620Nah, he’s just being a nationalist moron jerking off with semantics
>>2918730nah, he's just right. the work of the average american goes to the enforcement and continuation of USA imperialism
>>2918731Show me the income flows, and show me the point at which point it stops mattering so we don’t include the inputs produced by the third world.
what a non sequitur
>>2918706third worldists really should read ho chi minh, he talks about how international capital will seek to exploit national, racial, etc differences to make the workers go after each other's throats. Any ideology that wants the workers going after each other's throats is a reactionary psy op
>>2918767the implication that the very limited material support of USians is contingent on demonstrations like this from a genocided population is really grim
>>2918751The burger you had came from Brazil that the US still fucks up to keep shit cheap.
The dildo you shove up your ass was made in Taiwan which is still a rouge state due to US intervention.
The estrogen you take was made in a sweat shop lab in India which the US and England empower Hindu supremacists to stay in power to keep the people divided
Why is it that the rest of the world is expected to have solidarity with le "western workworking class" but the "western working class" isn't expected to have solidarity with the rest of the world?
Are they still under the kautskyist delusion that they'll be having "the revolution" and the third world just needs to cheer them on?
>>2918798Because we Marxists are internationalists not nationalists of the weaker side.
>>2918806Just like fish have no word for water, western marxoids think internationalism = late empire bourgeois rootlessness that they themselves are a product of
>>2918798>Why is it that the rest of the world is expected to have solidarity with le "western workworking class" but the "western working class" isn't expected to have solidarity with the rest of the world?Isn't it more the opposite? One could cymically say these shows of support for Americans are really just a ploy to engender support from Americans(and to turn Americans against their government.)
>>2918809you're right. the world is scamming the USA. poor USA
>>2918809https://www.reuters.com/article/world/irans-khamenei-says-floyds-killing-exposes-real-nature-of-us-idUSKBN23A27T/
>DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Wednesday that the killing of George Floyd in police custody had exposed the true nature of the rulers of the United States.>"The crime committed against this black man is the same thing the U.S. government has been doing against all the world," Khamenei said in televised speech. "This is the U.S. government's true nature and character that is being exposed today."
>"In dealing with its people, the U.S. government has behaved in the worst manner. The people of the United States have every right to feel embarrassed and ashamed by their governments, particularly the current one," Khamenei said.https://abcnews.com/International/george-floyd-vigil-iran-leads-online-backlash/story?id=71011654On a related note, it's crazy how the whole country and world came out in support of Black Americans just a few years ago and the FBA response to everything is "fuck them! When did they support us!"
But it doesn't really matter because it is not like BLM had any effect on police brutality or Gaza protests slowed Israel down one bit. These shows of solidarity are just birtue signaling and a way to feel better about yourself for the solidarity-showers.
>>2918810How did you come up with that interpretation? I responded to your argument specifically and then you go:
>sO u R sayIng USa not bad?!?!When that had no relevance to the point being discussed.
>>2918809>implying palestinians and iranians are performativethe cynicism is in the mind of westoidsjust shows how alienated and disaffected westoids are. the palestinians know exactly what it's like to be killed in the street by a white racist.
>>2918822Just every angle with it huh? Westoids bad because they demand the third world slaves to show solidarity to the westoid proletariat who are the cogs in the imperial war machine that rapes and kills them, now westoid baf because the third world slave shows solidarity out of his free will and good nature and you should feel bad.
>>2918811I find it incredibly sad that even "third world" countries pay homage to american culture like this.
Americans wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, ask me how I know.
>>2918835I'm sorry you feel so pressed by dead Palestinian kids, but you probably suck as a person.
>>2918889You are gay, early 20s, retarded, white, want to think of yourself as a negro, a redditor, ugly, fat(or perhaps anorexic?)
I am working on this people-reading party trick. Rate my accuracy.
>>2918731the work of the average person goes toward continuing capitalism. the truly revolutionary subject are those who post on leftypol from the armchair
>>2918678OK, I'll allow Reach and ODST as well, but that's it.
>>2918939Why do they keep repeating their ages of 17 like 4 times when those incidents happened in states where the AoC is 16? Clavicular himself is 20 years old and under 21, that's barely a 3 year age gap. Rape is still rape, though.
>>2918943Are they trying to take him down? I mean Americans are pretty anal about age gaps so it's weird how much they focus on it. Do you guys think Clavicular pissed off his superiors and that's his punishment?
>>2918946Peter Thiel must be angry his new bf is cheating
>>291889640's, married, ethnic, employed, and generally well loved.
>>2918946I mean he is a scumbag but the first suit being a civil one from the get-go is already sus.
>>2918806>>2918572"americans as a class" nonsense aside I dont like how americans (specially leftoids) get to vote and shill for their imperialist party every 4 years decade after decade doesnt matter how much horrible shit it does to workers around the world but if you point it out its you who is doing a hecking nationalism
I only have solidarity with american workers who support third parties or none at all, the DNC-GOP cattle is subhuman to me, sorry
>>2918918Third worldists really are just resentful incels. There’s a reason they argue like MAGAs
>>2918968>90% of his brain gonedialectical materialist explanation?
>>2918968why should i care?
>>2918973His brain was compressed by fluid buildup, it was actually like half his brain or something
>>2918943>>2918946>>2916697>We have to raise the age of consent to 25+. If under 18s are not getting exposed to things that age them through media then the next generations are not mature enough to be adults by 18 anymore.True if it was based on ethics but it's not really like that. Adult age gaps are literal blackmail
>>2917816Otherwise I don't care to hate. Influencers come and go.
>>2918963>Third worldists really are just resentful incels. There’s a reason they argue like MAGAsWhy do you think they're incels?
>>2919036he thinks third worldists resent the chill living conditions of the west. funny how they pretend american proles are just as miserable a class as the semi-proles in the developing countries but when it's time to measure their dicks, they will suspend all pretension and admit that there IS a stark difference in living conditions after all, and also they should just, like, deal with it
>>2918973brain matter concentrated around the skull, he literally had higher neuron density than you and me. mind you, he was no genius, he was basically like a blue collar worker at the vestiges of an economic boom, so maybe he's not doing so hot nowadays.
>>2919105i think this "deal with it, chump" rhetoric is closer to MAGA than i could ever even hope to be.
>>2919036I mean yeah. Like MAGAs, third worldists are basically resentful ragebait-meatbots who base their views on motte and Bailey tactics and projection
>>2919110>>2919102Like check out this guy right here. He pulls a motte and Bailey out the gate by suddenly pretending it’s about a point as banal as differences in average living standards - and watch, he’ll do it again in response to this post, and then he proceeds to make up a guy to get mad at.
Like really, just watch, he’s gonna double down, and then switch back to “and that’s why everyone in the core is a porky who must die”
>>2918918>there are no thirdworldistsdid you ask them? pretty sure hamas sees itself as an engine of history, same for ansar allah.
>>2919113> He pulls a motte and Baileyyou do not know what words mean
>>2919115^ This is another thing they do, if you corner them they just default to “ur stoopid” and other kindergarten tactics. Again; exactly what MAGAs do
>>2919117i mean i'm just saying you're not really using terms correctly, and anyone seeing this conversation is going to think the same as i do. i don't even get where you think the "difference in living standards" is a "banal" point. i'd say you're making someone to be mad, but you're so woefully angry and confused it's sad to watch.
>>2919118^ this is another pretty common trolling tactic they do - the whole “u mad” thing
"third worldists are angry hoards of people fundamentally motivated by jealousy and hatred" is literally what people in MAGA believe, to a T. you're not a good fit for this board if you think this, frankly.
>>2919120or maybe you are a good fit! I don't know where this board stands nowadays, maybe it's 100% MAGA now. fuck the third world, america fuck yeah!!
>>2919120>strawmanning like a MAGAYou’re really not helping your case here.
>>2919124where is the strawman here, he said third worldists are like "incels", i took a shot and claim that he sees third worldists as "incels" because he thinks they're irrationally jealous of the improved material conditions in the third world. maybe he can try explaining why he thinks they are incels?
>>2919126> in the third world*in the first world. flood detected lmao
>>2919129what do you make of the "incel" comparison
come on help your retarded uygha out, he is STRUGGLING here.
>>2919130You’re talking to the same guy, I put on an AK-47 flag by accident
Yes you act like incels because all the ranting and raving about “treatlers” just comes off as people going “reeee normies,” getting mad at what comes off as a hollow internet stereotype
>>2918959Idiotic thinking. It's like saying the South American and Indian working class are all subhuman because they vote right wing.
>>2919135I mean that’s another reason I don’t like like TWists very much. They have an insultingly patronizing attitude towards actual third worlders.
>>2919135South America would literally be Communist right now if it wasn't for America assassinating and couping every vaguely leftist leader in that entire region and pumping billions of dollars into reeducation programs and nonstop propaganda to mindfuck them.
South Americans are historically progressive.
INDIANS ON THE OTHER HAND………….
>>2919141>right now if it wasn't for America assassinating and couping every vaguely leftist leader in that entire region and pumping billions of dollars into reeducation programs and nonstop propaganda to mindfuck themYeah man the US government would never do this to Americans themselves.
>>2918939His bussy belongs to Thiel not the Yahu.
>>2919114Hamas sees themselves as islamist nationalists
>>2918627Cringiest BadEmpanada tweet by far
>>2918773You are a retard
>>2919193*To "Freakbob"/Ossi Ketola
>>2917702true. i've always been annoyed when people who aren't blind drag their big ass dogs to the sit down restaurant or whatever
>>2919277Is BE really just picking fights with random Breadtube D-listers? Holy grifting.
>>2919420yeah i guess you could say that. i personally see no difference between making a poorly researched misinforming video that tries to equivocate peoples dislike of a dog breed and racism; and making a debunking response to said video. both are grifting. both make money off it. fighting to provide me spectacle. but the second one provides a little bit of facts based education at least
>>2919418Learn from this parxis leftychuds.
>>2919426>debunking response>Facts based educationLol where? BE just accused the og video's creator a libtard and a zoophile
>>2919418I'm pretty sure wars are won with logistics and production thoughever
>>2918939More psyops a la Lindsay Clancey.
>>2919439this guy just doesn't stop huh
>>2919426>>2919277I love how in the video BE actually cites academic sources and does a proper peer review just to do a 180° and call they a dog fucker for no reason
>>2919431Watch the entire video, he cites evidence and recording that pitbulls and how dog breeding works, and cite stuff like south african mauling cases and laws in rio de janeiro.
There is a reason those fucking monsters mostly use stuff to impede them to bite and are restrained in public, i even saw one, it is a fucking tiger
>>2919453I've hear that h3h3 discord has lionmaker in it, the pedofile.
of fucking course.
>>2919453i win by not knowing who they are
>>2919514heartwarming they are keeping the memory alive after he died from that bookcase 💖💖💖
>>2919488you mean the pedo_troll discord?
>>2919418>Giga Persians confuse Yankee "intellectuals" with fake Baudrillard quotesI kneel. also war are won with bread, bombs and bullets
>>2919619What does being "progressive" mean, exactly?
>>2919624Basing your ideology on malding about Christianity and Christians existing
>>2919624Seen as more open, democratic and accepting, a precursor to modern day mainstream liberalism
>>2919619The irony of Christianity is it spread exactly by doing the opposite of its ideolology. Almost like Dengist China. I wonder if there is a Christian version of leftcoms.
>>2919631>open, democratic and acceptingSo, ancient Athens was "progressive"?
>modern day mainstream liberalismAnd when did this begin? 1999?
>>2919644You really are the dumbest motherfucker on this website and the bar is in hell
>>2919644Orthodox christians
>>2919517well, the discord is pedo for being h3h3's, but makes it extra pedofile-er with lionmaker now in it.
>>2919706>>2919700>>2919692>>2919687Why are you giving free views to this chicanery?
>>2919761>Orthodox christiansThor Doxx Christians.
They Doxx Thor and report his activity to Azazel called "Lisa" or "Alice" which is associated with silence. And then they rape little girls like Violet Par from incredibles, until there's enough rape to make an esoteric hitler.
And that hitler that is born of rape is their savior. He will kill the jews that every single orthodox christian hate by turning off jewish power and cause blackout.
And if you dare to say anything against that you're "incorrect" and will be directed to correction facility until you become a Nazi again.
At the moment they work for islamic state of IRAN.
>>2919871Critical support for Hasan
>>2919873hell no. fuck them both.
>>2919871someone clip nitty saying 'america deserved 9/11' and we have new agitprop
>>2919871This is the greatest thing that has happened in /isg/ history and that will never be topped. Hasan D. Piker being namedropped in a room if the planet's biggest dignitaries. Fucking incredible.
LMAOOOO
>>2919871You think Nathan Yahoo wants to suck Hasans cock?
>>2919871>>29198812027 Haz (who used to post/lurk here) will be namedropped at the UN General Assembly. Screenshot this
>>2919871It's insane some streamers got them so pressed. Why did they pick him as their whipping boy?
>>2919901Nobody who doesn't post/lurk here even knows who Haz is.
>>2919972The FBI knows him, Laura Loomer knows him, he appeared in Chinese media.
>>2913980
>>2914006
honestly, I think these tropes are intentional and meant to glorify Amerikkkan culture. American culture is usually associated with freedom, rebellion, and individualism. of course, in practice, the Burger Empire never actually holds themselves to those ideas, but nationalism needs mythology and imagery. So they use those tropes to forge themselves a culture.
And they portray their enemies as the opposite of those values. Whether it is meant to criticize left or right wing governments, they always portray the bad guys as this elitist, disciplined force or institution that tries to enforce some type of collectivism. And the good guys are the rebels trying to "fight for freedom" or "adventure" (an aesthetic that was inspired by romanticized historical tales of WEstward expansion, which literally killed tens of millions, if not hundreds, and destroyed ecosystems), or some other bullshit motive. These tropes are most often found in tales where the whole Americana vibe is going on, and a lot of movies don't really have that, so it can't be a universal rule, but this is a pattern I notice a lot.
>>2919898can we slime this nga already???
>>2920168
I hope u know I was talking about Hasan and not u before you gave that corny ass response
>>2920172You have no sense of humor, you’re the corny one.
>>2920176actually I cant even lie I'm geeked asl too
>>2920181I read the original message (>>2920168) in a Redditors voice
also, the stylometry of these two comments makes it seem like you x'd out your username just to insult me from an anon banner. I mean, if you're mad, you can just say it homie, ur user is not ur real name I cant track u down with it
>>2920205Yep.
Baudrillard was one of the leading French critics of Marx, such as in "The Mirror of Production" (1973). And the aim of Baudrillard's politics; of symbolic exchange in a General Economy, bears no relation to the ends of Communism. Communism, as Baudrillard saw it, was just an extension of the system of Production, rather than Consumption, so was determined toward value-formation. Only in the grasping strands of structuralists like Kojin Karatani does Marx's Communism broach into the symbolic exchange of primitive societies, but this is conjectural apologia. Symbols require excess, and the neatness of Marx's Communism does not permit such a thing.
>>2920213He's read and understands Marx then 9999% of people here
>>2920214What is this implicative of?
Marx supported welfare for the unemployed (1875):
<deductions from the "undiminished" proceeds of labor are an economic necessity […] funds for those unable to work, etc., in short, for what is included under so-called official poor relief today.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm Jews are the Chosen People ❌️
Chinese are the Chosen People ✅️
<China has witnessed a religious revival over the past four decades, in particular with a significant increase in Christian believers. The number of Chinese Protestants has grown by an average of 10 percent annually since 1979. By some estimates, China is on track to have the world’s largest population of Christians by 2030.https://www.cfr.org/backgrounders/christianity-china>>2920206Marx needs new prophets. It does not stand on it's own.
>>2920245Daniel wrote genesis when he was in babel prison.
The emnity of snake and the woman is separation of kingdom of nebuchadnezzar to persia and media. "Ur of Chaldea" from which Abraham was taken existed exactly in the time moment when Daniel lived in babylon.
His dionysus account sometimes is read as pharaoh "nechao", that sounds kinda like "nihao" or "nisroch" which king of assyria worshipped, and that allusion to russian canon.
>>2920245well if there was ever anything on this earth that resembled the garden of eden, then in all likelihood it would have been somewhere in the yang-tse's riverside
>>2920228>Watch parents react to finding their kids are deadWho watches this kind of content?
>>2920304>Who watches this kind of content?h*mans
>>2920200A take so idiotic it makes the critical drinker look like roger ebert
>>2920304>Who watches this kind of content?Hahahahahaha, WTF? That's classic 1556 BC hahaha!
>>2920528 Fascinating how ACP thinks that their fringe chud organization would get a shoutout instead of the 100+ year old CPUSA, which for a long time was the largest and most influential leftist organization in America and did wonders for the trade union struggle.
>>2920528everyone knows trump is scared of joe sims
>my journey spreading class consciousness is to be as hysterical and antisocial as possible on the internet and to reject everything popular
>>2920579CPUSA would become based again if Joe Sims purged all the glowie sorelian nationalists that have infiltrated the party
>>2920585 I wouldn't say that they'd become based, but it would certainly be one hell of an improvement.
>>2920573why does he hate canadians?
>>2919977>Yet the comment section is full of morons glazing McCarthy, saying he was right and that America/the Western world is totally run by communists.a youtube comments section is full of idiots? you don't say!
BEs latest response to dead domain is pretty bad. He goes over many medical articles that identify pitbulls as the breed that attack humans most frequently. That much is true and undeniable. But he leaves himself open to what I imagine dead domains response is going to be: that the reason for this is because the owners of those pitbulls are from socio-economically disadvantaged populations with poor education who are more likely to be incompetent in the raising and training of their dogs regardless of breed. BE should have looked for articles that control for that and if those nevertheless found that pitbulls are more likely to attack humans, as I think they would, then one could more definitively conclude that the breeding of pitbulls has predisposed them to be violent and therefore are unfit to being pets.
Just to be clear though, by this standard dead domain's initial video is bad as well.
>>2920610 This is because the ACP has identical beliefs to MAGA on every subject except economics.
>>2920612MAGA loves israel and the Epstein class
>>2920612ACP loves le heckin small business owners too
>>2920659the situation is crazy
>>2920659Is bestoffatdudes safe?
>>2920604Who cares? This is just peak breadtube/idpol thinking and I doubt they went over anything
The average person shouldn't have access to dogs that can maul people easily. It's not even comparable to between pitbulls and other mainstream hunting… breeds.
>>2920573why are video games not on this list?
>>2920612The ACP doesn't have economic views. Check their program, they want to cancel debt and are opposed to some bankers. That is literally it. It's eclectic hogwash based on their pseudo Heideggerian Kojeve Marxism that has no serious economic substance, it's all vibes-based.
>>2920659>>2920661he is the first content creator I actually enjoyed and that has been caught like a chomo, but still his funniest shit is when zach comes around
>>2920216I’ll help you out with another quote from Marx supporting the idea that it is society's responsibility to care for the elderly:
<B. Economic Section[…]
<7. Responsibility of society for the old and the disabled;<8. Prohibition of all interference by employers in the administration of workers' friendly societies, provident societies, etc., which are returned to the exclusive control of the workers;
<Karl Marx and Jules Guesde, 1880, The Programme of the Parti Ouvrierhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/05/parti-ouvrier.htmLenin also followed what Marx wrote regarding this:
<8) Full social insurance of workers:
<a) for all forms of wage-labour;
<b) for all forms of disablement, namely, sickness, injury, infirmity, old age, occupational disease, child-birth, widowhood, orphanhood, and also unemployment, etc.
<c) all insurance institutions to be administered entirely by the insured themselves;
<d) the cost of insurance to be borne by the capitalists;
<e) free medical and medicinal aid under the control of self-governing sick benefit societies, the management bodies of which are to be elected by the workers.
<V. I. Lenin, 1917, Materials Relating to the Revision of the Party Programme, Chapter 4, Draft of Revised Programmehttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/reviprog/ch04.htmThis brings us to the point raised by these two posts:
>>2920213>>2920214Denying the social responsibility to care for the elderly goes against the Marxist position found in these quotes.
>>2920604>that the reason for this is because the owners of those pitbulls are from socio-economically disadvantaged populations with poor education who are more likely to be incompetent in the raising and training of their dogs regardless of breedthe poors cannot help but love the murder dog. it is in their
blood poor education.
>>2920702the argument that dead domain will probably make is not that hte poors cant help but love hte murder dog because they're poor but that they can't train the murder dog properly because they are poor.
>>2920702Way easier to house a smaller dog than a larger dog if you don't want a big property or nearby park, large dogs really need a lot of exercise and engagement. Smaller dogs you can get 2 of them and they can probably keep each other busy within the house and only need to take on a walk a few times a week.
>>2920659Don't know who this is but they look stupid so lol
>>2920759bruh. news in the USA is just advertisement. free publicity for the hack publicity stunts of corporations. like, the advertisements aren't a banner displayed on the lower third or an interstitial, the advertisement
is the news story. bruh.
I know that this sounds like a troll but I heard that Asmon is actually a leftist. What's the deal with that?
>>2920772I'm glad the comments are discussing misanthropy.
Dog lovers are often anti-human, despite simply projecting their own parental instincts onto a living sponge for their emotions.
Every video essay now is a 30 year old who looks like Fresh Prince Anthony Fantano bitching about how desaturated color grading elected Donald Trump
>>2920795rightoids lie about their political affiliation.
>>2920905probably posted too much cringe
>>2920918I bet its for the post of Netanyahu saying Israel Deserved 9/11
i've noticed hasan has dropped the term "ultra" for "wokescold"
>>2920775He points out how "leftist" media is funneling people back into the pro-isreal dems but, i feel like he is not mentioning the fact that most of these media personalities are not Marxists or social democratic, just left liberals. The rhetoric and aesthetics of both the candidates and personalities have outpaced their real positions. We are now seeing this contradiction play out in the fight between the true believers & the actual far left vs. the left liberal like Hassan and AOC on Gaza and non-social policies, tho even that may change with time.
>>2920775Kav mostly doesn't miss.
Probably also the most normiecore out of all the 'lefty' cretors.
>>2920604>>2920702>>2920772Dead domains response was as I predicted. BE left himself open to this with his lazy perusing of articles. He could have made a better case.
Dead domain makes several stupid points of their own though. They keep pushing this idea that dogs are often misidentified as pitbulls. That when dog attacks are registered accurate genetic data is not taken to identify the breed of the dog and so people misidentify dogs as pitbulls when they are actually of another breed. However in their previous video response they stupidly claim to identify that the random street dog "yellow dog" that BE shows in his video is actually a pitbull mix based only on it's appearance. And in any case it does seem like there are studies directly contradicting DDs idea on this.
>>2921024Sprinkler Control Valve
>>2921024Saigon Speed Steak
>>2921024Fuentes is very well dressed, though I prefer Jiang's tie. Jiang's pants are poorly tailored and doesn't seem to wear a belt. Dude on the middle has the best tailor but I dislike his tie and striped suit.
>>2921024the three muskegrifteers
>>2921060it's my entertainment
anybody notice that youtube removed teh ability to sort search results by upload date? this removes the ability of freaks like me to manually go over recent uploads across all of youtube to find tiny undiscovered channels that might be good and instead makes me and everyone else rely completely on The Algorithm™ to find videos and creators. is someone at the top orchestrating a conspiracy to carefully curate the information that is accessible to the public? is htis just the natural course of a profit driven enterprise? does it fucking matter?
>>2921074Yeah it's been like that since around the start of the year, you have to manually filter videos "released in the last week" and shit, it's terrible
>race science but with dogs
unless you think humans have a divine soul, being anti bioessentialism in humans, but against bioessentialism in other eusocial animals is inconsistent.
the fact that dogs can be trained demonstrates that dog breeds are largely irrelevant as far as behavior goes
is 4chan not working for anyone else?
i go there and it says 403 forbidden angie
did it get hacked again?
>>2920956Hasan 100% wants to be seen as a Marxist, at least
>>2921092Same for me. I was about to say prepare for refugees if it goes on much longer.
>>2921092Rapedape and that nip can't run a site for fucking shit. How many times has that shithole gone down just this year alone?
>>2921121It's back up again already.
>>2921091humans aren't eusocial
Is anyone here watching prof Jiang Xueqin's lectures on YouTube? They're too fast moving to be properly based and cited but I watch them for their entertainment value. There was a Sabbatean-Frankist thread on him on 4chan before it went 403.
>>2921135>humans aren't eusocialHow do we prove that pure materialism doesn't always collapse into solipsism?
>>2921166In summary, Ayn Rand is a land of contrasts
>>2921020I think this is a good thing. Lets not loose sight of the ball here: This is
Youtube Drama(tm).
It is a performance in which all parties swell their audiences and boost their engagement, ideally speaking. And in that sense it's about time someone with a credible (ikr) YT career broke the liberal cordon around BE. Hopefully BE will be able to use this to bait people of greater interest. Instead of the average worthless orbiter who has nothing to offer and everything to gain. Or the establishment plants.
Although, I am concerned that this whole thing could bloom into a lolcow incident. DD strikes me as the kind of person who wears their ego like an explosive vest.
>>2921196>It will make it even funnier when he has his Agent Kochinski moment were he tries to use marx and lenin quotes to get people to vote for Newsom after AOC dropout.He already did, and to get people to vote for Graham Platner of all things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxUfoJmYtUShorter video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7-4q1mXVVI >>2921196Pretty sure hasan piker also quotemined Lenin's infantile disorder to get people to voot for kamala
>>2921384Why be obsessed with almost-good-enough that should be your rightful followers. Why not just do your thing and not worry about that the almost-you is doing.
i think zohran's inaction and protection of net-10 yahoo, not to mention his walk backs of so much more, it's incredibly blackpilling for someone who's in the DSA
it's just very demoralizing and I wouldn't be shocked if this causes people to leave the org
>>2921388Except he literally didn't and he openly didn't endorse Kamala.
>>2921384because leftoids just love to get high on lesser evil moralism
>>2921391Who the fuck is Net-10 Yahoo
>>2921417Pun on an Israeli leader's name. I won't insult your intelligence by telling who.
>>2921418….are you fucking joking? You’re an adult, you can say Netanyahu on an imageboard.
Also why do you schizos keep expecting a mayor who barely won the popular vote to go jihad on a foreign head of state? Are you that naive?
>>2921420>you can say Netanyahu on an imageboard.It's part of imageboard culture to use demeaning nicknames to people you don't like and venting frustrations/wishes with no regards for feasability. But so is autistically screeching whenever it happens I guess.
>>2921423What’s particularly demeaning about making him sound like a SoundCloud rapper
>>2921425What's
not demeaning about making someone soud like a Sound Cloud rapper?
>>2921393From all SocDem Eurocucks Snachez is the most tolerable
I'd say keep it
>>2920924>>2920905If that is true it's partly my fault because I posted that Netanyahu speech and suggested to make a meme out of the "deserved 9/11" thing. Sorry.
I feel like a not-insignificant portion of the online American left misuses the term "electoralism" to refer to "democratic party electoralism" rather than electoralism in general in the US. It's why we keep seeing discussions on how we shouldn't be voting for Democrats and instead should be voting for and supporting third parties like the Green Party or communist parties like the PSL or whatever. Those people really need to learn more about it means to actually be opposed to electoralism and how to actually organize to build power outside of our electoral system, as I'm starting to think that would probably be a better use of their time.
>>2921179>In summary, Ayn Rand is a person among personsIs what you were trying to say?
>>2921384>Why can't the masses just learn from history that socdems are just traitors on the making?I'm confused. What could he do better?
>>2921151>Is anyone here watching prof Jiang Xueqin's lectures on YouTube?I've embedded one of his lectures. I'm not too sure of Marxism if the Sabbatean-Frankism stuff is actually true because it's kind of proto-Marxism. Specially the
"your only friends are your class friends" stuff.
>>2921428>If that is true it's partly my fault because I posted that Netanyahu speech and suggested to make a meme out of the "deserved 9/11" thing. Sorry.Which meme? Did lefty/pol/ lose the twitter account over a Net10 meme?
>>2921196>Kochinski wanted to be seen as an anarchist and later a Marxistlmao for real? I know he was your usual twitter nato anarchist larper, does he really try to present himself as a marxist now?
>>2921391Didn't you just join the DSA? Should be easy to hop off the bandwagon you just got on
>>2921472Classic meme. Nice.
>>2921461>schizo 😑>schizo, China 🤩The funniest thing is the butthurt turk in the comments sating Attaturk wasn't a jew
>>2921508He’s Jordan Beijing Peterson
>>2921373Oh wow, i did not know he went all out for Platner lol. He is also displaying something i see a lot in "leftist" media and it is the lack of support for multiple left parties. Hasan and much of the US left media demands support for electoralism only in the framework of the dems and Labor. He talks about "using the tools that are available" while using a wrench to screw in a nail. There is never a discussion of working with smaller parties(PSL, Greens, etc) to win smaller localities. That would be something that can build up a base and actually push the dems left, but in his mind that is not realistic.
* Small digression, I hate how Hasan and Haz types call anyone who sticks to their principle a puritans for not support their chosen lesser evil. *
>>2921388 >>2921394>Pretty sure hasan piker also quotemined Lenin's infantile disorder to get people to voot for kamalaYah haven't seen a vid of him doing that but he was trying to get people to still vote for the dems during the dnc protest, he was not heavy handed with it but still.
>>2921470I don't know what he is now. I Just know during biden he was presenting less like an anarchist and more like a vulgar Marxist.
>>2921508>>2921537He's going around getting featured in all the right aligned podcasts. Not sure why he didn't pop up here.
>>2921391>houdini only just now finding out that the DEMONRATS are liarswe would have achieved world communism by now if the left didn't have the habit of attracting the most guillible retards who keep falling in love with socdems
>>2921391DSA leadership such as BRG should be jumped for being collaborators.
>>2921556giga
>>2921585giga
this is the left unity I like
>>2921384They don’t teach working class history in the U.S., let alone politics that have lead to their defeat
>>2921607jdpon don and titoist melania
>>2921638It was rules by a communist party and a ML state, so yeah, that's a "communist state" if you are not an autist.
>>2921646By any consistent standard it was a fascist state. It was literally de facto in NATO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Pact_(1953) >>2920764100% certified late capitalist classic.
>>2921645Oskar Dirlewanger was actually despised by the NSDAP for being cartoonishly evil, which is funny because Neo-Nazis worship him (the Dirlewanger Brigade insignia is popular as a tattoo). It's almost as if they're just trying to be as edgy as possible.
>>2921673The white supremacist prison gang types are just looking for an excuse to do crime and don't even really believe in the ideology, basically the white equivalent of gangbangers and cartel members.
/pol/tards are the same except they're too cowardly to do anything in real life.
>>2921677Hundreds of Ukro-Nazis have Dirlewanger tattoos and patches actually fighting in Ukraine, they do believe in it. This may be true for American Aryan Brotherhood style gangsterism, but not for European neo-nazis.
The main antagonist in Come and See (1985) was based on Oskar Dirlewanger, that's why the movie is so fucked up.
BE is definitely using an LLM to write his videos now so be on the look out for poorly written badly sourced videos from him. Some breadtuber could make a lot of money making videos deboonking his coming LLM produced videos.
>>2921673>ugh, those other nazis are going too far at being nazis and making nazism look badAre nazis liberals?
>>2921911What gives it away?
>>2921817They financed the Palestinian genocide in the 1940s…
>>2922055He disagrees with me
>>2922097No they didn't. But they did supply and train the arab national armies
>>2921650>They literally helped the greek monarcho fascists kill greek communistsThat was Stalin actually.
>>2922148Wrong. You will cite Dyilas as your argument.
>>2921921>>2922147I think it's understandable why Floch has fans (and not even just Nazi ones). He's not superhuman or really all that special, he is pretty much an underdog compared to the main characters. All he has is his own willpower and does what he thinks is necessary. Also I think the alliance being written to be so cringe does not help matters. If the alliance was more coherent and understandable (and less of a superhero squad) I think less people would support the fascist Yaegerists.
>>2915690
Superheroes are wrong, even if they aren't fascist, because they are superhuman. They are above everyone else due to their natural physical abilities. It is anti-egalitarian. This is an unacceptable narrative to give to children. "Marxism is not egalitarian" ok but there is a difference between differences in capabilities between individuals, and the valorization of naturally superhuman and gifted people who are demigods. Also, this idea of the hero is wrong. A hero is a factory worker who makes many bullets during a revolutionary war, or a political officer who liquidates a spy.
>>2922212>i want to enforce my cultural standards on childrenkids have always liked knights and cowboys and astronauts and superheroes regardless of what adults have thought. this is why socialists are seen as weirdos
>>2922199Hmm I always just thought he was just a kind of an annoying nothing character. I mean I like him enough as a character representing the yeagerists, but to think people would actually be fans seems like a bit of a stretch to me tbh. But im not too into the fandom or anything so idk
I guess it makes sense if you're already into the yeagerist stuff (retarded)
>If the alliance was more coherent and understandable (and less of a superhero squad) I think less people would support the fascist YaegeristsCertain types are going to like the fascists regardless of how well written the other factions are (retards), so I doubt this
>>2922212>Superheroes are wrong, even if they aren't fascist, because they are superhuman. They are above everyone else due to their natural physical abilities. It is anti-egalitarian.lenin spoke 11 languages, wrote more pages in his collected works than days he was alive, and he had this to say:
<Mr. Tugan repeats the old trick of the reactionaries: first to misinterpret socialism by making it out to be an absurdity, and then to triumphantly refute the absurdity! When we say that experience and reason prove that men are not equal, we mean by equality, equality in abilities or similarity in physical strength and mental ability. It goes without saying that in this respect men are not equal. No sensible person and no socialist forgets this. But this kind of equality has nothing whatever to do with socialism. If Mr. Tugan is quite unable to think, he is at least able to read; were he to take the well-known work of one of the founders of scientific socialism, Frederick Engels, directed against Dühring, he would find there a special section explaining the absurdity of imagining that economic equality means anything else than the abolition of classes. But when professors set out to refute socialism, one never knows what to wonder at most—their stupidity, their ignorance, or their unscrupulousness. Since we have Mr. Tugan to deal with, we shall have to start with the rudiments. By political equality Social-Democrats (this was before the 1914 split, so Lenin is still a "Social Democrat" by the standards of the time) mean equal rights, and by economic equality, as we have already said, they mean the abolition of classes. As for establishing human equality in the sense of equality of strength and abilities (physical and mental), socialists do not even think of such things.source:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm >>2922225look at the mahabarata, the odyssey, the bible. all basically superhero slop from the bronze and iron ages
>>2922233>if you use a non-standard definition of superheroes then basically everything is a superherowow so true
>>2922222Beyond that, humans have been inventing and telling stories about superhuman figures for our entire existence as a species. If hunter gatherers or neolithic farmers in primitive communist societies are inventing characters like Glooskap and Maui then I think it's safe to say that the tendency to do this is fundamentally human and not a product of class society. Even AES states did this to an extent, with people like Li Feng or Alexei Stakhanov being portrayed as nigh-superhuman in their dedication to the party and socialist construction.
>>2922235In what way is Hercules not a superhero?
>>2922237Doesn't wear a spandex nor a cape, also is an ancient mythological figure and not a shlocky cartoon made to sell bubblegum
>>2922236>le superheroes are modern mythologyMidwit
>>2922232>As for establishing human equality in the sense of equality of strength and abilities (physical and mental), socialists do not even think of such things.Tell that to today's "left".
Then again, Lenin was a white man, so what did he have to offer?
>>2922240>>2922238They are conceptually the same thing. The differences are superficial or at most in form rather than content. Put Hercules in a colourful costume and have him wrestle a giant lion in downtown New York and you have a Superman comic.
>>2922235The superhero plot is just any plot where the MC has a special power, a nemesis and a sort of "curse" or burden that comes as a price for their power (and usually related to being misunderstood, different or isolated)
Most of those fit with the standard definition of superhero plot
>>2922243You’re not gonna convince people who have already decided that the more miserable they make themselves, the more communist they are
>>2922240He's literally correct, though.
Hesiod calls the age of these epic sagas "the age of heroes".
The genre of poetry is "heroic", and was established as such.
Superheroes are fascist. Myths are fascist. Under Communism myths and superheros will be banned. There are no heroes only the inexorable might of the collective working class smashing the exploiters.
>>2922243>They are conceptually the same thingThey are conceptually not the same thing, one is an ancient mythological figure, the other a cartoon made to sell bubblegum
I guess they both do heroic deeds and that makes them conceptually the same to you? But many figures both fictional and not do that, that doesn't make them all the same thing
>>2922246Let people be whimsical :)))
Is mickey mouse a superhero too because he helps people and is good natured? What about goofy?
>>2922258Both Mickey Mouse and Goofy are Fascists. Under Communism a final Disney movie will be made where all Disney characters get lined up in front of a firing squad and executed for defending the bourgeoisie.
>>2922268Correct on all points.
>>2922248Popular fantasy is not mythology - mythology refers to nationally or culturally foundational stories that constitute unifying metaphysical assumptions about reality.
>>2922262It will all be canon
>>2922275All fantasy has a mythological basis.
>>2922254Joy (watching cartoons) is resistance!
>>2922242I saw Lenin. She's black.
>>2922254>They are conceptually not the same thing, one is an ancient mythological figure, the other a cartoon made to sell bubblegumThat's beside the point. We're talking about the ideological implications of superhuman figures, i.e. the content of the stories themselves rather than how they are deployed by a given society. The statement under dispute is:
<Superheroes are wrong, even if they aren't fascist, because they are superhuman. They are above everyone else due to their natural physical abilities. It is anti-egalitarian. This is an unacceptable narrative to give to children. The point I'm trying to make is that stories about superhuman individuals are as old as human society and exist across all modes of production. Superheroes as we know them today are just the most recent iteration of this and one tailored to capitalist society. Stories about superhuman individuals will almost certainly persist under socialism and will be used to legitimize that social order, just as stories about Gilgamesh legitimized ancient Sumerian kings while stories about Superman legitimize liberal capitalism.
american mythology would be more like shit like big foot or even aliens.
>>2922300My culture's mythology doesn't contain superhuman heroes, check your indo european assumptions
>>2922305Okay what is your culture
>>2922306International proletariat
>>2922314Being snooty about popular culture is just the Marxist version of Woke 1.0
>>2922317Not quite because we also get to impotently fantasize about brutally murdering people for watching The Amazing Digital Circus or some shit like that
>>2921921>Floch is a young man whose greatest desire is to become a cog in the machine of his nation and race, a true follower of the cult of the hero as envisioned for the general masses.This reminds me of Yukio Mishima's portrait photo. Something in his gaze feels like that this photo was intended to be posthumous despite his life and young age at the time of the photograph. He dedicated his life to a manifesto in the end. I think that Floch was a walking dead man who had no civilian counterpart and that most of his fans completely miss that. The devil that he needs is a projection of his own personal needs. This is something that Evola describes but that's deeper into fascist spirituality.
It's easy to hate Floch for his psychology, but he has his gossipy counterparts that feed off of drama and the intensity of outrage in the spectacle (how far personal lives get fucked) that's equally… idk
https://www.reddit.com/r/literature/comments/1ly1h24/yukio_mishimas_gender_and_his_path_to_suicide/<I know that the Redditor connects Mishima's suicide to his sense of gender identity which may be true but I want to remind everyone that most people, including the LGBT community, love life. They're not crazies. I suspect that there is something deeper in the brain going on here (close to sexual identity) that needs to be teased out into the open and out of the fascist path that Mishima chose to sacrifice his life to.Eren in AOT is a vicious cycle character. He decides to kill his own loved one to forcefully radicalize himself after he taps Historia and then he orders the rumbling only to save the Turk Hat kids (he personally met) from the mass culling he himself ordered to save his personal friends. He's a complex character. He looks like he represents the difference between the comments sections on social media and feelings IRL.
>>2922320If you got blown by Caine is that mouthfucking or skullfucking
hasan is wishcasting like a fucking retard. he is saying that even now iran is willing to accept compromises on it's nuclear program.
>>2922300This is just idealism. Looking for some kind of retarded jungian eternal hero or whatever. Just because heroic characters with supernatural abilities have existed, doesn't mean that there's evidence of some sort of universal archetype that both Gilgamesh and batman are a part of
All cultural products are a reflection and mostly a reinforcement of their conditions obviously
I agree that S is also a dumbass
>>2922344>This is just idealismNot sure the extent of this… Is life just licking nutripaste and using onacups here?
>>2922346tf are you talking about?
What do nutrients and masturbation have to do with this?
>>2922349>tf are you talking about?>What do nutrients and masturbation have to do with this?What's going on with superman and jung here?
>>2922352Just his conflation of superman and gilgamesh as belonging to some universally applicable archetype reminds me of the same sort of babble that jungians, like jordan peterson for example, produce
>>2922268all rap but class conscius commie rap is fascist (they spout that all life is about hustling, getting yours while screwing over your fellow man)
>>2922350>western w*men learning the virtues of modesty🙏 mashallah
Why are there so many Brazilians on Twitter talking about an US intervention?
>>2922469American social media companies like Meta and X are blatantly censoring left-wing accounts for starters, even Lula’s official account and Catholic groups linked to liberation theolology have been targeted
>>2922469i don't know specifically but the USA has systematically replacing governments across latin america for ones more friendly to them. so i believe it. mexico and brasil are the big holdouts. they'll give in soon as well.
>>2922472Brazilian elections basically becomig Catholics (left) vs. Evangelicals (right) has been an interesting development
Tbh most Catholics here are just cafeteria Catholics who are agnostic in practice, similar to Protestants in Europe
>>2922344>This is just idealism.No its just an observation that these types of characters have always existed and even predate class society, so there is no reason to think that they would disappear under communism.
>Just because heroic characters with supernatural abilities have existed, doesn't mean that there's evidence of some sort of universal archetype that both Gilgamesh and batman are a part ofI didn't say anything close to that.
>All cultural products are a reflection and mostly a reinforcement of their conditions obviouslyOkay, but clearly this particular motif keeps appearing under wildly different conditions so we have no reason to think that it will disappear just because conditions have changed. Socialist superhuman heroes will of course be different from capitalist or earlier ones, but there's no reason to think they won't exist.
>>2922300>exist across all modes of productionWow guys stories valorizing the living God-head of the Temple in Palace Economies are really Communist if you think about it.
>>2922529What if they all went off in unionist pubs?
Chuds are losing it as White nationalist Howling mutant has an Indian wife and a brown kid named Vivek
>>2922560They're only against race mixing if the woman is white
>>2922560>The top neo-Nazi in the country is Mexicanthats on Hasan, he failed to replace him with his GOAT Platner, a proper aryan beast to represent the american volk
>>2922482How it feels talking to you assholes.
Just total surface reading of everything, no curiosity, no investigation, no analysis, and total dismissal of such.
"But all science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things directly coincided." - Karl Marx
No wonder you fuckers think first world "workers" have revolutionary potential.
>>2922268>Porn is fascistEasy there dworkin
>>2922553>>2922560Because the real substrate of white supremacy is western labor aristocracy
Why do people keep getting suprised by this, italians became white within our lifetimes, and the irish before them
>>2922482>>2922677>>2922656Visual fantasies are fascist, end of. All analyses of visual fantasies are derivatives of visual fantasies so Jung is also fascist. Video games are visual games and so are fascist. Body measurements are also fascist because all measurements are fascist because they create comparison which the observers turn into hierarchical vibes which is also fascist. All sex outside of the collective consensus is rape so hatcheries are to be used for rape safety and the collective discusses the most effective DNA ships via councils and picture matching.
All exclusive sexual relationships are hurtful and so are fascism via the rape principle.
>"But all science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things directly coincided." - Karl MarxOne-eyed man because visual objectivity is fascist.
Listen to The Maid of Orleans.
>>2922701What is the context of this?
>>2922702the context is when someone spends too much time online they start speaking in buzzwords and memes and cease to achieve coherence in thought or speech
>>2922702oh, right, the xeno account is famous internet lolcow nick land
>>2922701marx spent years reading w*stern theory too, I guess it explains why he had the same views as catturd on manifest destiny
>>2922777did you even read the wikipedia shit you shared you absolute retard?
>>2922777no the midgetbrained anon youre replying to is referring to postmodernism globohomo o algo
also nice trips
>>2922683>real substrate of white supremacy is western labor aristocracyTrvke bomb. I concur from experience
>>2922569If you are a racist you should be like the zionists and be racially matrilineal because the formative years of a child are dependent on the mother. In a sense white women are integrating mixed kids into white society while minority women are disintegrating them. At least that's what my rabbi told me.
>>2922784'pedia tards are using the wrong terminology but the horkheimer definition in the first few lines is still true
Notice how there is always disagreement but never correction?
Someone please actually define "critical theory" for us all.
>>2922830>Someone please actually define "critical theory" for us all.CIA funded anti communist psy op.
you are welcome.
>>2922683>the real substrate of white supremacy is western labor aristocracyOf course.
It's Westerners attempting to protect their wealth from competition.
What you have to realise however, is that this is also the result of the labour movement, in opposition to socialist politics. Social democracy is the real proletarian politics since it promises to increase national protections over foreigners. The welfare state as a concept is based in nationalism, and labour possesses an intractible national character.
>>2922843Any examples, or just word salad?
>>2922849critical theory said mean things about great man stalin and lassalle
>>2922956What does any of this shit even mean
>>2922690>All sex outside of the collective consensus is rape so hatcheriesThis is a good thing though ever, and thinking otherwise is buying into patriarchal ideas of power.
>SpaceXAI
uygha is just merging all of his companies at this point
>>2922957Cat shit apparently, who cares≥
>>2923045NEVER TRUST THE SOCIAL DEMOCRATS!!!
>>2922957Some guy that is an accelerationist became a bog standard conservative and people are seething now or some shit
Thats what I've gathered so far
>>2923143Do people really not even know who Nick Land is here anymore
>>2923045>he is pro-Israeli because he’s not anti-Semitic Identicrap brainrot strikes again
>>2923151I've heard of him but just in passing
Hes like one of the dark enlightenment guys or something
>>2923158>"I FUCKING HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE" directed towards a socdemits a giga!
>>2923045https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/27/dhs-awards-94-million-grants-help-protect-512-jewish-faith-based-organizationsDHS Awards $94 Million in Grants to Help Protect 512 Jewish Faith-Based Organizations from Targeted Violence and Terrorismhttps://advocacy.ou.org/fact-sheet-federal-and-state-security-funding-for-synagogues-jewish-day-schools-other-houses-of-worship-and-nonprofit-organizations/https://www.axios.com/2026/09/12/jewish-security-spending-holy-daysJewish institutions' security spending in U.S. tops $1 billionhttps://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-religious-institutions-receive-86m-for-security>More than $8.6 million in federal funding is going to 49 religious institutions and community centers across Maryland to help strengthen security.
>Among the Maryland recipients are Chabad Lubavitch of Bowie, Charles E. Smith Jewish Day School, Congregation B’nai Tzedek, Kehilat Pardes, McLean Bible Church in Montgomery County, Beth Sholom Congregation of Frederick, Camp Airy, Beth Tfiloh Congregation and The Cathedral of Mary Our Queen.
>Ron Halber, CEO of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington, said the grant program has become more flexible in how organizations can use the money.
> “Number one is the amount of money. And two, is that the procedures have been liberalized. So it used to be you had it maxed, it used to be it could only be used for physical but now we appreciate the fact that the federal government has loosened the restrictions. If you need it to pay personnel, pay off duty police fine, if you need it for bollards to protect against a car bomb, or if you need it for protecting windows to make sure that they are shatter proof. There’s a lot of flexibility.”A billi a year just to protect Jews in this country. The price of antisemitism is TOO DAMN HIGH!
https://forward.com/fast-forward/203059/jewish-groups-get-94-of-homeland-security-grants/Jewish Groups Get 94% of Homeland Security Grants guys by combating antisemitism he means anti-palestinian sentiment becuase they are the actual semites
trust the plan
>>2923173trvke, its dialectical
>oh shit did an anime pfp user just call my jewish friend an Epstein on twitter?
>better send millions of dollars to jewish institutions across the country because this is the biggest problem our country is facing now!!!
Meanwhile there are literally movies being made and shows on theaters on how we should kill all muslims because they hate us for our freedom or something
Has the Candance Owens lesbo sex tape already been leaked somewhere?
who's going to win the lawsuit bros?
>>2923158yeah i think you really do have to be braindead to get upset at such a benign statement. the polfags that inhabit this site wouldn't last 5 minutes with real world responsibility
>>292315810/7 bait.
Well done. Mazel tov.
>>2923209>yeah i think you really do have to be braindead to get upset at such a benign statement.I agree. Pure antisemitism.
>the polfags that inhabit this site wouldn't last 5 minutes with real world responsibility+1, they need to put on their big boy pants. We need common sense antisemitism reform.
>>2923209/pol/fags can't inhabit the real world, that's why they're /pol/fags making up bluehairs to feel superior to
>>2923212Chuds and leftychuds are both slaves to the same dengist master.
>>2923212I wouldn't hire them and neither would anyone at my synagogue. They can bet their foreskin on that.
>>2923211Yeah the genocide of Palestine is bad and all but we really must consider the dangers of the rise in antisemitism
>>2923218Two things can be bad without being equal
>>2923215I have a brised friend and his foreskin grew back. So they did it again, then it grew back again. The rabbis thought he was cursed so they let him be. They did it when he was 12 before his bar mitzvah and this time it did not grow back. They did not cut it off completely so he is half-brised. Spooky goy jew magic.
>>2923211Proved me correct immediately
>>2923219You're correct and that's why I think our governments should be putting as much effort as possible into combatting antisemitism over any contribution at all towards ending a continuing genocide of an entire people.
>>2923219One can be completely inconsequential akin to anti-white racism and the other genocide and mass murder fully backed and supported by the most powerful military in history
>>2923219you got the nasty enchilada dick riders angry with this one
>>2923224>deliberately reading shit in bad faith to score internet pointsDon’t waste our time
>>2923238And still a major concern in the 21st century, all those pogroms against jewish people in the US happening all the time just like in Lenin's day
>>2923239I’m an actual autist and you’re being way too autistic over this
>>2923245>ranking shootings in terms of moralityWoke 1 was crazy
>>2923045Sounds pretty sus but what exactly does this program entail?
>>2923248>Anti-Semitism means spreading enmity towards the Jews. When the accursed tsarist monarchy was living its last days it tried to incite ignorant workers and peasants against the Jews. The tsarist police, in alliance with the landowners and the capitalists, organised pogroms against the Jews. The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews. In other countries, too, we often see the capitalists fomenting hatred against the Jews in order to blind the workers, to divert their attention from the real enemy of the working people, capital. Hatred towards the Jews persists only in those countries where slavery to the landowners and capitalists has created abysmal ignorance among the workers and peasants. Only the most ignorant and downtrodden people can believe the lies and slander that are spread about the Jews. This is a survival of ancient feudal times, when the priests burned heretics at the stake, when the peasants lived in slavery, and when the people were crushed and inarticulate. This ancient, feudal ignorance is passing away; the eyes of the people are being opened. >>2923251Giving them more millions on top of what they're already getting from the state and the federal government for paying for security for synagogues.
>>2923172https://forward.com/fast-forward/203059/jewish-groups-get-94-of-homeland-security-grants/>The Department of Homeland Security allocated to Jewish institutions $12 million, or 94 percent, of $13 million in funds for securing nonprofits.And also more trips to the holocaust museum.
https://nypost.com/2026/09/29/us-news/zohran-mamdanis-plan-to-fight-antisemitism-ignores-zionism-refuses-to-define-anti-jewish-hate/
>Mayor Zohran Mamdani rolled out his plan to fight antisemitism Tuesday — but still refuses to adopt a formal definition of anti-Jewish hate or acknowledge Israel as a Jewish state.
>Hizzoner formally announced his blueprint for a growing issue plaguing the city late Tuesday morning, leaving many in the Jewish community left scratching their heads after noticing a glaring omission in the 33-page report — Zionism is never mentioned.
>“I sat with the Mayor’s Office to Combat Antisemitism in July and told them what Jewish teachers and families need: a definition of the hate, an honest reckoning with anti-Zionism, and real security for synagogues and schools,” said Moshe Spern, the president of United Jewish Teachers. “What the mayor announced today does none of that.
>“Quoting the Talmud while refusing to name Zionism, and putting $1 million in security across every house of worship in New York City, is not a strategy. It is a disappointment.”
>The admin’s strategy, which is largely a pared-down version of ex-Mayor Eric Adams’ policy framework released last year, invests $26 million in the Office for the Prevention of Hate Crimes, another $6.4 million for the Partners Against the Hate grants, along with $1 million in security.
>It also appoints a Title VI coordinator to help address bias in K-12 schools and helps arrange NYC school trips to the Jewish Heritage Museum to educate students on the group’s history. Both were pushed for by the City Council.
>Moshe Davis, founding Executive Director of the Mayor’s Office to Combat Antisemitism, gave credit to the admin for following some of his recommendations, but says “it seems to make a conscious effort to erase the connection between the violence against Jews we are seeing in our city and the anti-Israel propaganda clearly fueling it.”
>“A report on antisemitism that ignores what is driving much of the hate and violence against Jews is tone-deaf and dangerous,” he added.
>“Though Zionism is not an endorsement of a particular Israeli government or political agenda, we cannot ignore that attacking or excluding ‘Zionists’ can and has become a convenient way to disguise antisemitism as political disagreement.”
>Inna Vernikov (R-Brooklyn), co-chair of the council’s Task Force to Combat Antisemitism, piled on over the notable exclusion.
>“The Mayor’s plan to combat Antisemitism fails to address one key question: How do we combat the hateful rhetoric that rolls out of the Mayor’s own mouth—and the violence against Jewish New Yorkers he is fueling?” >>2923209>benign statementif he just said "anti-semitism bad" I wouldnt mind but why go full goy about it referencing the talmud and shit? it gives me the ick, I dont want that religger bullshit associated with socialism and neither should you
>>2922777>>2922824Marx denounced "critical theory" back when it was called "left hegelianism"
>>2923244It's crazy, there have been like how many terror attacks or "blowback" because of Israel, America, and Europe's shenanigans in the Middle East. But if a Jew dies, it suddenly part of the horrible rise in antisemitism and the next holocaust starting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Austin_bar_shooting>On March 1, 2026, a mass shooting occurred at Buford's Backyard Beer Garden on West Sixth Street in downtown Austin, Texas, United States. The perpetrator, 53-year-old naturalized US citizen, Ndiaga Diagne, opened fire with a pistol from a vehicle at people inside and outside the bar before parking, and used an AR-15–style rifle to shoot at people along West Sixth Street and its connecting roads before he was fatally shot by police. Four people were killed, including the perpetrator, and 15 others were injured.Bet most of you didn't even hear about this one even though it was only a few months ago.
Then one Jewish guy got stabbed and one Asian guy and they were like:
>Look what you did Mamdani.I think it was the governor who didn't even acknowledge Asian victim.
>>2923158Its so BASED to spend yet more millions on security for "Jewish cultural institutions" (read: Synagogues selling West Bank property)
>>2923274You're just not a statesman like Zogran anon, you wouldn't get it
>>2923294Oh it's this faggot lmao I get it now
>>2922350oh no she (they?) were really hot wtf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissy_hypnoBro Wikipedia just has an article for everything at this point. uyghas doing scholarly analysis about trans porn.
>>2923301Hahaha I turned 15 yesterday too
Anyone else think these a lot of these guys on Kiwi Farms and /pol/ are secretly LGBT or chasers thesmselves?
They are OBSESSED with trans women. Like even regular consevatives aren’t like this, at most they will say something like “I don’t want them in women’s sports” but KF has an entire board dedicated to obsessing over random ass trans women’s lives.
>>2923305I'm sure it exists and it's funny pointing out grindr crashes whenever there is some conservative event somewhere, but at the end of the day most of these people are just genuinely hateful. If it concerned a non-sexual minority like Jews or people of color, you wouldn't say their obsession is rooted in them secretly wanting to bang those members of those identity groups. But then again, maybe it being a sexual minority makes it different idk.
>>2923305This but also someone pointed it out to me that the thing that they hate is that trans people can change themselves, which means the reactionary could change as well and that their situation could change with effort and isn't solely the result of woke or some shit and they can't handle that so they have to hate trans people and that made some sense to me
>>2923305Trans people are just the latest cultural touchstone for the 2 minutes hate. There is no rhyme or reason to it, its just a schmittian enemy we can arrange politics around.
>>2923305>Anyone else think these a lot of these guys on Kiwi Farms and /pol/ are secretly LGBT or chasers thesmselves?I'm not sure about Kiwi but there is definitely something wrong with both /pol/ and /gif/. They raid threads and post gay porn off their hard drives to stir shit. Idk why /pol/ even exists atp?
>>2923305>thesmselves?There's something vicarious and not direct going on over there
>>2923204>American LeninHas Hasan ever read a book?
>>2923323To host the lunatics on /uhg/ and provide a place for glowies and shines on /chug/ and /pig/?
>>2923211>fight antisemitism!>or else..why do we keep coddling this bronze-age desert cult?
>>2923318>I'm sure it exists and it's funny pointing out grindr crashes whenever there is some conservative event somewhere, butThe Grindr thing is also a meme that people just made up. Grindr's servers don't actually crash because of gay Republicans.
That said, the last time people made this meme was at the Republicans' "midterm convention" in Dallas several weeks ago. And I have to point out the Republican nominee for the Texas Railroad Commissioner is Bo French, who likes the D. I'm referring to dick, which he likes to suck, because he has sex with men. I'm not making this up, he got caught doing it in a sauna at a country club in Fort Worth.
BTW he's running a blatantly racist campaign and he has rich alt-right guys around him. His campaign is pushing edgelord Groyper shit. BTW the office of Railroad Commissioner has nothing to do with immigration, nor railroads. It's an antiquated legacy name for what became the state oil-and-gas regulator, which in reality means it exists to serve the oil and gas industry and not actually regulate it in any way. It used to serve the role that OPEC now does (which is crazy, but that was a century ago when Texas oil was massively important worldwide). Anyways his campaign is being backed by West Texas evangelical oil billionaires.
>most of these people are just genuinely hateful.Anecdotal experience, but I've experienced two types of "homophobia." One is a kind of sublation of affection that forms as a result of male bonding. You see this more often with young men (teens, early twenties) who are in groups of other men and have stronger relationships with other men than they do with women. I think it's also probably common among enlisted soldiers in army (see the use of homophobic jokes to refer to enemies in warfare). They might tease each other for being gay (which I think is mostly harmless), and they can act like dickheads and mock gay guys if they see them in public, but they won't usually do it directly. I had an experience on a date of seeing a group of guys like this make fun of my date (when he was out of earshot), and they looked embarrassed when I looked at them because I heard them, and they realized I was with him.
For some reason, the "homopobia" of this type is more about signaling to the other men in the group that they're not gay. So if they see a highly effeminate gay man walking around, they'll be like "oh no!" and they feel like they have to say something to other men in the group, even though they wouldn't do that if they were by themselves. It's an emergent social behavior within the group. Funny story aside, but a straight friend of mine told me a story about walking past a leather bar with a group of his friends (who were all straight guys) and there was a big crowd of leather daddies on the patio, and everyone in his group immediately went stone-dead silent as they walked past the bar. He thought I'd find that funny, which it was. But it's also interesting. The straight-male group doesn't want to be like "lol fags" when it's a big crowd of hairy big dudes dressed up like bikers. But those guys are actually very nice.
The second type, the more violent / hateful stuff… my IRL experience with
visceral homophobia where the person is really hateful and been insulting or threatening in some kind of way has been from either lumpen-criminal types (like drug dealers) or (oddly) disabled guys. Like a guy in a wheelchair. I don't know what's going on with that, like he's just miserable, and also what are you going to do, hit a guy in a wheelchair? I remember a guy like this calling me a faggot out of the blue in a parking lot, and his friend pushing him in his wheelchair looked mortified. The one time where it really felt serious and potentially violent was a drug dealer who some dumbass criminal friends of mine knew, and this guy communicated to me that he had a serious problem with me. I don't know what his politics were, but there's a relationship between predatory criminal people and right-wing politics.
>If it concerned a non-sexual minority like Jews or people of color, you wouldn't say their obsession is rooted in them secretly wanting to bang those members of those identity groups. But then again, maybe it being a sexual minority makes it different idk.Right. I think it's projection in some kind of way. It is "about"
them in some kind of way. But it might not be sexual either, in most cases.
Thirty Years War vibe in Brazil with Catholics supporting the governament and Protestants supporting the opposition
I fucking hate this country bro
>>2923339oh yeah my bad. judaism is an iron age cult pining for the days of the bronze age
>>2923349>Poor country is poorWow a shocking expose
>>2923321>>2923322look, the issue with trans people is all about how the rethuglicans try to stay relevant, because they know their policies SUCK, while the democraps are all about platitudes to BIPOC, at least that doesn't sound unappealing. The rethuglicans need a big tent, but gays, women, and people of color are large chunks of the electorate, that their mysoginistic, racist, classist leadership wish to thro under the bus but they can't. And because they can’t just willy-nilly debase themselves by attacking those groups, they instead grabbed the least significant voting group, one composed of less than 0.01% of the population, so they can rally against the “threat” of a voting group that has no weight in electoral results.
for instance, they shifted to latino politics with narco rubio because they knew that, they knew the latinos could be a big trap for them if they continued their attacks towards latinos when the latino population just kept growing and growing, faster even than the black community. Whites were mad about it; that was the whole issue with the so-called tea party, because of how the rethuglicans “betrayed” whiteness. but the rethuglicans can’t throw away a large vote base. And because they repeat the trans mantra 24/7, whites,and their rethuglican vote base, forgot about latinos getting rallied by their own politicians. like the fuck cares in texas that 'ted' last name
CRUZ is a fucking latino politician, or narco
RUBIO or
elvira fucking salazar no one cares.
that’s how we get this shit:
>>2922560it’s not rocket science, and I don't know why is that a mystery for hassan, a so-called 'political science' majored guy. the latinos, the BIPOCs, the gays that were dragged by the rethuglicans all share the same racist, shitty ideologies, because “there’s always someone else worse you can hate on.” And that’s how they get a cohesive bloc of racist morons.
>>2923334I remember years ago seeing some interview with this middle aged Russian guy and his reasoning for being homophobic went something along the lines of this: you go to school for years with the same boys, form a close life long bond with them, probably also go to work in the same factory or whatever and now all of a sudden these homosexuals are saying that men forming close bonds like this is
gay? Complete nonsense obviously, but in his mind accepting homosexuals even existing as more than some mental illness that can be beaten out of people means that he might be gay or be seen as such when he kisses his boys after a night of drinking. I haven't given this much thought, but it's kind of a prisoner's dilemma of acceptance where if you're the odd one out you might experience homophobia or some shit.
>The second type, the more violent / hateful stuff… my IRL experience with visceral homophobia where the person is really hateful and been insulting or threatening in some kind of way has been from either lumpen-criminal types (like drug dealers) or (oddly) disabled guysMore well adjusted people probably understand that no matter their personal hatred, actually expressing it directly in the face of people you hate is a big step to take that most don't bother with. Also, a lot of people are willing to do the mental gymnastics where all gays are disgusting sexuals deviants (or pick some other nasty stereotype), but it just so happens that every single gay they actually meet is "one of the good ones". I constantly see people be racist against foreigners in general (all criminals, don't work, you name it), but not their barber, not the kebab man, not their neighbor or colleague, etc. They're cool.
>>2923365>total petite bourgeois destructionsounds like a successful experiment to me
>>2923522this is so funny after john ganz spent the entire tuesday evening malding because he said nick fuentes was a good rhetorician and hasan complained
>>2923543>what a fucking retardyou are saying it like it wasn't his plan from the start, his voters are retards but milei is not, he plays the part but to fuck the country up so bad can't be an accident or an act of incompetence, he wants to privatize everything and turn argentina to hyperhell narco jew land
>>2923601Based Milei bringing a painful end to the ArgenSSimian race.
>>2923618wrong, he is using monopoly capital to liberate the argentinian volk from the burden of its petite bourgeoisie, the proletarization will continue and no socdem hitlerite will be able to stop it
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