>>2686241>>Hitler was a degrowtherBwahaha, the fuck is lebensraum then?! What a fucking idiot.
I swear to god this ass is so closeted (gayly) because of his Cristian/conservatard spooks that he basically equates communism with "the political system that plumps out the most babbies."
QRD on Caleb Maupin?
>>2686545I listened to him talking to Chris Cutrone (yeah, I know…) and was saying the CPI doesn't call themselves communist anymore because they're not engaged in labor movement stuff because workers are atomized hustlegrind gig entrepreneurs now. (Or at least see themselves that way.) Also the New Left was a deep state plot to undermine McCarthyism.
>>2686457the LTV is actually a marginalist theory of value. this becomes obvious when you read vol III, but it's already there in vol I (relative surplus value)
>>2686545Maupin is a cautionary tale of the dangers of Christcuckery
bluesky leftoids are fucking insane, all of them have their full name and address in their bios like it's nothing, with some shit like "writer for NYT and historian for harvard" while theyre sitting at about 145 followers
how do white millennials have this much confidence
>>2686849Either they've never been in any real danger in their life or they just don't give a fuck. Maybe they're just stupid. I don't know.
>>2685267Lain is so fucking annoying.
He talks in circles about how the left must listen more to the right while proposing nothing else.
>>2686849A lot of those guys are academics, scientists, "arts and letters" types who moved over there as a group I think. Their experience on Twitter was mostly following other people like them.
Also lawyers
>>2685267i remember when he went on cumtown it was very sad
>>2686546he is very smart in a retarded way, he invested all his intelligence in being retarded
>>2685990Even that one is mediocre at best.
>>2686924He and CPUSAnon should kiss.
>>2686343>Sarkeesian>"Stop with this neoliberal bullshit"Here's someone who remembers her for what she is
>>2686241Would you say Hitler
wasn't a degrowther? Hitler was of course a natalist
about Germans, but globally speaking he was anti-natalist. I read the Nazis were very skeptical about modern farming methods, so when they did a rough calculation of their needed living space, they did not take account of modern fertilizers etc. So the massive scope of their aggression towards the Slavs is directly related to that.
>>2687214Who cares? These religious debates are so tiresome. They are cultists and cannot be reasoned with, simple as.
>>2687214I don't get Sabine's whole "the establishment hates me!" schtick when she's clearly smart enough to succeed without it.
Zizek is certainly imperfect but also definitely overhated, here especially which I presume is largely because of his libtarded Ukraine stance.
Should be an interesting debate in any case.
>>2687277Sabine is, at this point, I would say completely a "grifter" and aligned with the far right to attack science and academia, or really any intellectual nexus that isn't dominated by SV techbros and venture capitalism.
>>2687277>I don't get Sabine's whole "the establishment hates me!" schtick when she's clearly smart enough to succeed without it.Why wouldn't you be? The science community and especially the physics community really are a hostile bunch. If you contradict their orthodoxy they're really like:
>We need to take this evil person down!>>2687293She doesn't attack science and academia, she just says that the theoretical physics field has turned into a cult and are wasting tons of money with nothing to show for it. I think she's probably right but I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert enough to say if what she's claiming is over blown. The argument she makes sounds well informed and it also lines up with my outsider perception of it. I actually like Sean Carrol and his content but I think he definitely has that kind of mean-spiritedness about him. I liked her video defending Eric Weinstein while she's like "yeah, he's full of shit, but so are you Sean, and you're a dick about it."
>>2687297>The science community and especially the physics communityI mean, that's the only beef I'm aware of with her too.
>>2687293>to attack science and academiaI don't know how one could get that at all. She's like the premier science youtuber and she covers all kinds of science news. I don't know who is doing more for science and academia. Like all the other big youtubers either do more educational documentary Science channel type stuff like Veritasium, Steve Mould etc., or they cover news only in one field like Astrum. I can't really even think of who else is a general science news youtuber.
Bruh look, this is the google results. Sabine and Astrum.
>>2685267I'll take doug lain over whatever leftoid slop that's out there these days. He leans into a contrarian niche of his own, but thanks to his guests, listening to his podcast thing usually ends up leaving you more informed which is pretty rare.
>>2687214>glowenfelderno thanks
>>2687261people stuck in the 2010s ateism movement or god believers
>>2687344true,it's in the OP of this very thread : ISG
Ictually
Sxisting
Graxis
>>2687299That's horrifying. Do people really not know what Sabine is up to? Look at her association with, for example, Eric Weinstein. The way she presents science and academia as a cult in need of "outside ideas" is exactly the grift I'm talking about. It's the same vector of attack that we have seen reproduced in medicine (anti-vax), climate change (denialism), genetics (eugenics), and comprehensively against transgenderism. Weinsteins literally LLM generated theory of everything has no value, and is not equal to the output of working theoretical physics.
The responses in this thread defending her are honestly shocking to me. And frightening, given how severely she works to undermine science from a position of anti-intellectualism and populism. It's literally anti-vax applied to Physics. If her grift catches on as she intends it to, it will wreck US physics in the same way anti-vax saw the NIH get annihilated.
>>2686631>the LTV is actually a marginalist theory of value.i would disagree that marx's theory is directly comparable to marginal utility theory, since it separates value from utility, rather than seeing value as an extended function of utility. the disagreement begins where marx sees value as abstracted away from utility in the act of exchange, while wicksteed (1884) properly says that if the only labour which can count as value must be useful, then exchange cannot abstract away from utility, but it rather expresses utility, abstractly (in the marginal sense). here's his rebuke:
https://www.marxists.org/history/international/social-democracy/today/1884/10/wicksteed-capital.htm what does "jestergoon" mean?
>>2687429I didn't say it's a marginal utility theory. it is a marginal theory, but it is the amount of
labor at the margin that is relevant, not some wishy-washy "utility". value is the partial derivative of labor with respect to the quantity of the production method for the least productive MoP in use
>>2687483relative surplus value, superprofit and ground rent are all marginal effects. there is no such thing as an "average" amount of labor going into some commodity. the notion that there is is just a simplification that Marx uses in parts of vol I. for the same reason you cannot arrive at values by just "adding up" labor added at each stage in production as some leftcoms seem to think (the GIC people among others). total labor added does
not equal total value added, even at equilibrium. this all becomes apparent when you start looking into the problem of joint production
>>2685267>Defending Chomsky and Epstein associationsThat's fine, but instead of whining… Just tell us:
How much friendship, what level of association with Jeffrey Epstein and the courtiers of hegemonic capitalism is acceptable for a socialist to have, in your own judgement? Where exactly
is it that someone such principled as you, draws the line.'
Specifics please, Mr.Intellectual.
I think that one of woke's biggest strengths is that it seems like it can tank a lot of the big hits chuds give to it, even when it makes some flops like concord or dustburn while chud flops like the shitty kid rock show did a lot of damage to their reputation.
>>2687616I think that one of woke's biggest strengths is that their opponents being fat ugly retards who makes vids sperguing out about titties in vydia and transhumanist turn people away from being "anti-woke" or make then become "both sides le bad" types.
>>2685435Clav will start prison bitch maxxing and lowering his cortisol by being protected by big black bubbas
>>2687677The most (yous) I consistently collect is when I just point out that the right is pretty conformist from a top-down colllective. If asmongold, trump or whatever say something then they tend to parrot it while I tend to see more leftoid ecelebs as people who parrot what the the viewer wants to hear about mostly.
>>2687551>I didn't say it's a marginal utility theory. it is a marginal theory, but it is the amount of labor at the margin that is relevant, not some wishy-washy "utility".does labour lack utility?
>total labor added does not equal total value addedwhats the difference?
>>2687722Another thing is that a lot of the right's culture fire power comes from them making soyjaks of their enemies but just saying "No u are ugly 2" is enough to make them shit themselves and whine.
The thing is the left doesn't even have to prove we are good looking or anything because I don't think we even care that much about that sort of shit but the right does and yet they still look like shit. That is what pisses me off about them.
>>2687389We need to pass laws to lock up
anti-vaxxers anti-LHCers.
>>2684324The leadership of this org platform convicted pedos, platform suspected pedos, say pedo shit under the cover of religiosity, and were accused of trafficking a transgender minor to O9A.
>>2687389>That's horrifying.Your drama levels are off the charts dude.
>Do people really not know what Sabine is up to? Look at her association with, for example, Eric Weinstein.Do you? She said his theories are unproven doo doo, but the same is true for everyone else's 10000 pet theories in that field.
>The way she presents science and academia as a cult in need of "outside ideas" is exactly the grift I'm talking about.That's not what she says. Anon, I think you just make up things in your mind to get mad at.
>It's the same vector of attack that we have seen reproduced in medicine (anti-vax), climate change (denialism), genetics (eugenics), and comprehensively against transgenderism. She doesn't promote anti-vax stuf or climate change denial, in fact she does the opposite.
>Weinsteins literally LLM generated theory of everything has no value, and is not equal to the output of working theoretical physics. The whole field is like that. They have 1000s of contradicting theories that can't all be right. Many Worlds and all that is at the same level of seriousness.
<The responses in this thread defending her are honestly shocking to me. And frightening,<Truly aghast, mortifying, dread-inducing. Who the fuck thinks "I have serious mental issues…And that's your fault!" Is a serious line of argument. Like just keep that to yourself dude and maybe ask your doctor to put you on stronger meds.
>It's literally anti-vax applied to Physics. If her grift catches on as she intends it to, it will wreck US physics in the same way anti-vax saw the NIH get annihilated.It's too late.
https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=13325< I think if you were a betting man, you would bet that LHC will be the last great particle accelerator, and the whole field will dissipate after the LHC is over.Total Sabine victory.
>>2687756i am fuck at embed what is wrong with me
>>2685435non-stop ass rape
>>2687756Yeah I've seen that vid before and I just watched it again because I don't remember anything because none of it was particularly interesting.
Sections:
>CapitalismShe goes on for awhile saying that the invention of capitalism is what enabled technological progress. That's also the Marx's position.
>Mentions Marx>Capitalism got a bad rep when Marx claimed it was about just grabbing hold of the means of production and exploiting the working classI don't even know what she's saying lol. It seems like she was mixing "seize the means of production" with the second part. Lol the capitalists are the ones that have the means of production.
>Of course there was an element of truth to his fears because some things went badly wrong during the industrial revolution>but that's another storyLol someone should bug her to make a communism video so maybe she'd learn something.
The rest of the video she just goes on about some bog-standard lib stuff about how we need to reform capitalism and have good rules and protections and whatever. She really mostly just skates around what the difference of capitalism vs. something else like communism.
This discussion made me curious about what Sean Carroll's position is. Found this interview he did with this economics professor.
Mindscape 84 | Suresh Naidu on Capitalism, Monopsony, and Inequality
>Nations generally want their economies to be rich, robust, and growing. But it’s also important to person to ensure that wealth doesn’t flow only to a few people, but rather that as many people as possible can enjoy the benefits of a healthy economy. As is well known, the best way to balance these interests is a contentious subject. On one side we might find free-market fundamentalists who want to let supply and demand set prices and keep government interference to a minimum, while on the other we might find enthusiasts for very strong government control over all aspects of the economy. Suresh Naidu is an economist who has delved deeply into how economic performance affects and is affected by other notable social factors, from democracy to revolution to slavery. We talk about these, as well as how concentrations of economic power in just a few hands — monopoly and its cousin, monopsony — can distort the best intentions of the free market.
>Suresh Naidu received his Ph.D. in economics from the University of California, Berkeley. He is currently professor of economics and international affairs at Columbia University as well as a fellow at Roosevelt Institute, external faculty at the Santa Fe Institute, and a research fellow at National Bureau of Economic Research. His awards include a Sloan Research Fellowship and the “Best Ph.D. Advisor Award” from the Columbia Association of Graduate Economics Students.
It's an hour and a half so I'll get back to you after I watch it.
>>2687776I just read this article by the guy:
https://jacobin.com/2014/04/what-marx-really-meantWhat Marx Really Meant>Treating Marx’s original manuscripts like scripture does them a great disservice.
>Since Brad Delong has attributed some thoughts on Marx to me, I thought it would be useful to publicly air what I understand to be the context. Brad DeLong has been a mentor and advisor for ten years now, and is one of the very few economists broad and open enough to know anything about what Marx wrote. I have met very few other people in mainstream economics departments who cared enough to read Marx, let alone enough to assign the Communist Manifesto and Wage Labor and Capital in a mandatory first-year economics PhD course. (Even I don’t do that.)
>The context of the long-running conversation has been trying to establish a dialogue between Marx and modern growth theory. Inside the modern production function, there is a pretty undifferentiated view of “K” (which leads it into some troubles as bad as any in the labor theory of value). Marx on the other hand distinguishes (at least) machines, technology, and money-qua-productive-input as different from each other conceptually.
>The fact that these are rolled into an aggregate production function by mainstream growth theory is not Marx’s fault. And so when somebody is trying to translate Marx into modern economics, the slippage between “what is ‘K?’” and “what Marx meant” can get confusing. I am still thinking about these issues, and won’t pretend to have figured it all out, but let me lay out some preliminary thoughts.
>Brad is correct in one sense. I believed and still believe that Marx’s view of capitalist technological change is labor-saving. There is no way to read the chapters on machines and modern manufacturing without thinking that Marx was pretty convinced that technologically advanced machinery would displace labor and lower wages:
< But we have already seen that, with every advance in the use of machinery, the constant component of capital, that part which consists of machinery, raw material, etc., increases, while the variable component, the part laid out in labour-power, decreases.
>On the flip side, the increased use of machines can increase the demand for labor. More factories means more labor demand, even if those factories are 90 percent robot. So the relationship of capital and labor is both of these things: the net substitutability of labor by capital, holding output constant, and the gross complementarity of capital and labor while output changes.
< We also know that in no other system of production is improvement so continuous, and the composition of the capital employed so constantly changing as in the factory system. These changes are, however, continually interrupted by periods of rest, during which there is a mere quantitative extension of the factories on the existing technical basis. During such periods the operatives increase in number.
>In terms of wages, I think Marx can be read as saying that medium-run wages are pinned down by institutions, norms, and the reserve army of labor. Long-run wages could be determined by political conflict and changing economic institutions, and short-run wages could be determined by the business cycle and labor-saving technological change. This is a pretty rich theory of wage-setting, and I think focusing on the technological change dimension of it is missing a lot of the full Marx story.
>When “capital” is understood as money and financial services enlisted in circuits of production (the M-C-M increments) or the quantity of investment, I think you can find passages where Marx thinks of them as complements to labor (i.e. they increase labor demand, even if marginal products don’t exist and wages are institutionally set). For example, here is a passage where (a young) Marx talks about capital and labor as complements, and perhaps even thinks of wages at marginal products:
< To say that “the worker has an interest in the rapid growth of capital”, means only this: that the more speedily the worker augments the wealth of the capitalist, the larger will be the crumbs which fall to him, the greater will be the number of workers than can be called into existence, the more can the mass of slaves dependent upon capital be increased.
>In fact, rhetoric aside, this passage is completely consistent with, say, vintage optimal tax theory, which says that the best way to increase workers’ wages in the long run is to not tax capital ever. And I think it is illuminating about the manifold criticisms Marx makes of capitalism. Perhaps Marx thought that even if workers’ standard of living increased under capitalism, it would not undo the exploitative/unfree/undemocratic institutions inherent in the labor market.
>Maybe some of those criticisms are empirically wrong or don’t resonate with contemporary ethical intuitions. In any case, it is not just any particular analysis of inequality and business cycles, but instead the unrelentingly political and conflict-ridden view of the economy that is what is precious to me in Marx.
>But all this said, I think Brad wrote a good column, even if the question of “Was Marx Right?” is fundamentally silly. The larger point is that Marx’s fertile mind generated many ideas, distributed over a lifetime of thinking and writing exactly as capitalism was transforming itself and the world.
>The theological endeavor to discern and police “what Marx really meant” is the worst kind of intellectual program. Marx, like Smith and Ricardo and Keynes, is a place to draw on for inspiration and hypotheses, not the last word on anything. So, at the end of the day, I don’t really care if “Marx was right”, and I certainly don’t begrudge others the right to find support for a variety of arguments on marxists.org. The howls of outrage from the online guardians of the One True Marx in response to the New York Times panel were more irksome than anything written by the panelists.
>Marxist economics is much larger than Marx, and textual exegesis of the original manuscripts, as opposed to reinventing and redeploying the concepts in new historical and intellectual environments, does it a great disservice. Brad is right to look to Capital for inspiration to understand our possible robot future, even if Marxists don’t like it. To paraphrase Joan Robinson, the critics have Marx on their screens, not in their bones. >>2687389> it will wreck US physics in the same way anti-vax saw the NIH get annihilated.Uhhhh Based?
Critical support for mad science lady.
>>2687740Another way of making then seethe is to just say how irrelevant the culture war bs is, i don't even get in touch with vydia drama and "woke" because i think this is just a psyop to make people not engage in class and social issues. Saw a guy get so mad when i pointed this out, lol.
>>2687779>I believed and still believe that Marx’s view of capitalist technological change is labor-saving. There is no way to read the chapters on machines and modern manufacturing without thinking that Marx was pretty convinced that technologically advanced machinery would displace labor and lower wages […] On the flip side, the increased use of machines can increase the demand for labor. More factories means more labor demand, even if those factories are 90 percent robot.as far as i know, marx nowhere states that increasing capital intensity lowers wages; it only produces unemployment, which in turn, raises wages (capital vol. 1, ch. 25) - a greater national product of labour also increases the value of labour-power, as he directly states in other places (capital vol. 1, ch. 22). marx takes the smithian position, that where there is optimal capital investment, competition sets wages at higher rates (1844):
<The raising of wages presupposes and entails the accumulation of capital […] which leads to over-production and thus either ends by throwing a large section of workers out of work or by reducing their wages to the most miserable minimum.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/wages.htmso then, the demand for labour leads to higher wages, but also leads to more workers, which reduces wages. marx and engels also give empirical examples of mass immigration (1845-70) lowering the wages of labour:
<Nothing else is therefore possible than that, as Carlyle says, the wages of English working-man should be forced down further and further in every branch in which the Irish compete with him.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/condition-working-class/ch06.htm<Ireland constantly sends her own surplus to the English labour market, and thus forces down wageshttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htmso this is marx's position.
>>2687779>>2687834marx also simplifies the issue in terms of supply and demand (1844-67):
<Should supply greatly exceed demand, a section of the workers sinks into beggary or starvation. The worker’s existence is thus brought under the same condition as the existence of every other commodity.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/wages.htm<the requirements of accumulating capital may exceed the increase of labour power or of the number of labourers; the demand for labourers may exceed the supply, and, therefore, wages may rise […] The higher wages stimulate the working population to more rapid multiplication, and this goes on until the labour-market becomes too full, and therefore capital, relatively to the supply of labour, becomes insufficient. Wages fall, and now we have the reverse of the medal […] The action of the law of supply and demand of labour on this basis completes the despotism of capital.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch25.htmthis is identical with adam smith's view (1776):
<The scarcity of hands occasions a competition among masters, who bid against one another, in order to get workmen, and thus voluntarily break through the natural combination of masters not to raise wages […] It is in this manner that the demand for men, like that for any other commodity, necessarily regulates the production of men; quickens it when it goes on too slowly, and stops it when it advances too fast. It is this demand which regulates and determines the state of propagation in all the different countries of the worldhttps://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-adam/works/wealth-of-nations/book01/ch08.htm >>2687732>does labour lack utility?labor itself is a use-value. the point is that value has dimensions of time (or time/quantity). whereas bourgeois economists cannot say what "utility" is, what dimensions it has etc
>>total labor added does not equal total value added>whats the difference?take agriculture as an example. if you have two plots of land, one producing one ton of potatoes for one hour or work and the other one ton for two hours of work. the total amount of labor is three hours. the total amount of potatoes is two tons. the value of potatoes is decided by the worst field in use, so two hours per ton. therefore the value of the potatoes is four hours even though only three hours went into making them. how do we deal with this discrepancy? where does the one hour of rent "come from"? Marx suggests it comes from other industries. but he also suggests that there can be a conversion factor from value to labor. one solution is to just say sum(marginal labor) = k*sum(direct labor) for some k. typically k > 1
>>2687903cuckinsky seems to be unaware of the concept of taking the piss
>>2687903he looks orange like drumpf
truly blue maga
>>2687903I maintain that pro HOA memes are the response we should have to pro landlord memes.
>>2687807Eh I have quite a bit of mileage of saying that being anti-racist is a white thing and that being a racist just lowers you to the status of other races or whatever
Kind of a dark woke thing but eh
>>2687892>the value of potatoes is decided by the worst field in usefor marx, the market price of potatoes is decided by the prices of production plus surplus for the most marginal lands necessary to meet social demand for potatoes. it's a special case that only obtains because there is extreme variance in the natural productivity of land and inelasticity in the demand for its products.
>>2687903I think he'll hit a Breaking Point(s)™ when his "lefty tea party" and "Jon Stewart 4 Prez" positions wash-out like they inevitably will
>>2688163Does he have a press guy who vets the shit he says, or is his ego so large he just does whatever he wants?
>>2685559You are most likely Yakubian
Do with this information what you will
>>2683898"Man who never leaves house agrees with Nazi about staying home during elections."
i hate all streamerslop equally, including hasan, Agent Kochinski and molestiny.
but i will be pretty honest, hasan probably knows and read marxist theory enough to dismantle his opportunism and revisionist, thus being the smartest streamerslop, but often do not so because he is a opportunistic infiltrator and confortable with his positions on the democratic party
>>2688177i think he used to have press people, as well as a media that was generally sympathetic to him so they would just reguritate space X press releases about going to mars in 5 years as news stories. because he was some autist real life iron man genuis. but all those people got fired long ago
>>2687892>labour has utilityright, so what is labour-time measuring besides the utility of labour in production? what is the magnitude of value actually measuring?
>Marx suggests it comes from other industriesright, so total value = total labour?
What was te ideolog/tendency of Pierre Tru-dank when he was posting on leftypol?
>>2685990>cop rock is this a thing? what are the essentials?
>>2688379Did you catch their new track about Gaza? Eerily direct.
Guys, there is a chance that Hasan might join the ACP with Jackson and Haz, lel.
>>2687638I like how Stav is actually the one to predict Epstein and the victims being suicided but Nick is the one who is credited for predicting it.
>>2685990Nothing from butt rock bands like that are enjoyable.
It's all slop from beginning to end.
Any study of aesthetics and music theory will tell you that music regardless of the messaging behind it is complete corporate slop designed to be played on FM radio to mouth breathers in the mid west with room temp autism scores
>>2686343She was always based. Lamers are treatlerite subhumans.
>>2688703
Just like leftypol, where the faggot mods do not even give a reason for banning me anymore.
hasan is getting xit on on xitter the xverything xpp blxze yxur glxry for saying he would not vote for gruesome newsom over jd vance for president
>>2688817>>2688845Is this even accurate? Why only tie our history with the meme with just a /pol/ raid?
>>2688817>Ethnic arthoes are now making 1 hour breadtube videos on fucking imageboard culturejesus
>>2688855rent doesn't pay itself. though i think its more suitable for an arthoe to talk about it than for major news outlets to talk about 4chan and 8chan like they did years ago
>>2688845This is like a complete inversion of what actually happened. They had literally always come and sporadically spammed us. It was totally unprompted when someone make the original poljak drawing, just them noticing the chud phenotype. And we all thought it was funny and made a bunch of derivatives. Then people from /leftypol/ went and posted it on /pol/ in a "raid" and they got immensely assblasted about it and have since coped by trying to reclaim the archetype but have been very unsuccessful, with the meme going mainstream and the whole "billions must die" and "nothing ever happens" thing now being part of common internet parlance. It's kind of nuts to get the narrative this wildly wrong and makes me thing she got commissioned to make this video by some butthurt /pol/yp, like one of the ones who has the money to buy dozens of VPNs to spam shit here (thing noticer)
>>2687750Odd defense. Sabine belongs to Peter Theil’s dark money network. It’s a grim situation that one of the most YouTube science commentators is a Thielite. The goal is to dismantle publicly funded research and put it under control entirely of private capital, to further consolidate their power and control. They don’t want there to be any freedom anywhere, even in intellectual and scientific domains.
Her relationship to Weinstein is much stronger than just making a video about him, if you knew anything about her actual activities. Shes again part of the Theil dark money group.
I don’t know why you aren’t actually engaging with the point about anti-vax. It’s exactly the same attack vector and will have the same result.
If it was up to her, all public physics research would be denied, and only what’s permitted by her could be researched. The only difference is that proposals must appeal to her to be approved. And you may think I’m psychoanalyzing, I’m not if they get their way, Sabine will likely be placed in this actual political position. People have a lot of complaints about academia, but they are exploiting this dissatisfaction to smuggle support for a far more hostile system of capitalist control of science that viewers would otherwise balk at. I don’t know how many times we’re going to fall for this trick from the Thiel Group.
>>2687750> The whole field is like that. They have 1000s of contradicting theories that can't all be right. Many Worlds and all that is at the same level of seriousness.No. Wienstein’s theory specifically cannot pass peer review. That’s why the concept of peer review is presented so sinisterly Hossenfelder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulusyou want to know why some of you guys are struggling with addiction. Because videogames, social media, porn, or etc literally hijacks YOUR EVOLUTIONARY/BIOLOGICAL INSTINCTS.
READ
>>2688944>Allowing him into the tentWho does this guy think he is and what tent does he think he lives in? Hasan went to the DNC and congress, and then hang out with the PSL, the JCP and people representing fucking Cuba.
>>2688862probably because she just read the sojyak wiki article about chudjak and took the origin story from there
>>2688651>illegal immigrants arent in the BibleMoses calls himself as much in Exodus when he names his anchor baby, "I was a stranger in a strange land," and the Hebrews are about as close as you can get to the modern equivalent. The Bible is pretty unequivocal about how strangers and foreigners, especially the poor and downtrodden, are to be treated.
Matthew 25:35-40
>35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’But Yankee Christians hate the Bible and Jesus and most of their "Bible study" is devoted to memorizing selective readings in order to justify their religious biases.
>>2688651man they only mention bible shit for immigrants when it's the hebrew part
>>2688944dem loyalists love trotting out how OTHER people, mostly their left opposition, are rich and white, meanwhile they are poor working class salt of the earth I swearsies
they're not contributing much to the discourse, but it entertains the shit out of me that zoomers are jet skiing out to epstein island. also kind of funny hearing the rental shop guy talking shit about tyler olivera totalling his rental jetski, and getting chased off the island by some guy with a machete. for some reason he cut that footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fexsm01XD7chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COjRbZg-eKc>>2688944>Hasan>Not on the big (read:Democrat) tentlol, lmao even
>>2688944For context, he's talking about how Hasan said he'd vote 3rd party if 2028 is JD Vance vs Gavin Newsom. So dem voters are out here lecturing people about how you're privileged if you don't want to voter for the lesser evil who's known for wanting to vaporize all homeless people.
>>2689199>>2688944>>2688950>>2689218I swear to god, if we actually get to 2028 and have free and fair elections, and the establishment Democrat libs coronate some milquetoast grillpill centrist who will just continue Trump's policies and won't seek trials, deMAGAfication or any structural change that would prevent this from happening again, they will deserve the fascism they get in 2032.
It's insane that they're still operating on this delusion that there's going to be some centrist candidate that will take things back to the way they were and we'll all go brunch eternal on the highways of Valhalla.
>>2689199The thing is that your typical shitlib partisan hack for the DNC doesn't see people like Hasan, Bernie, AOC, etc as the "big tent" compromise figures that they actually are. They reject the idea of creating this direct left-liberal unity ticket because they are obsessed with the idea that they're somehow going to capture the conservatives and establish the Thousand Year Lib Reich.
In 1991, an openly corrupt Democratic candidate won the governorship of Louisiana by doing nothing because the Republicans had chosen David Duke, the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan as their candidate. Then in 1992, Bill Clinton beat George H. W. Bush by tacking heavily to the right and executing a successful "southern strategy" that managed to pull a significant number of conservatives away from the Republicans. This put stars in the eyes of the Democratic Party elites who from that point forward became convinced that it would be possible to position the Democratic Party as this centrist party that everyone except the lunatic fringe voted for and just won by default without having to do anything, while also taking endless checks from whatever corporations and wealthy donors they liked. It worked a couple of times in the 90s, and never again, but they won't fucking let go of it. When Dems talk about making the "big tent," they are explicitly talking about their delusion that they're going to become the party that all the "reasonable" conservatives vote for, which will herald their eternal centrist reign. Once again, this has not worked even one time after the 90s.
>>2689308bryan johnston is the vampire guy that feeds off his son right? story is so fucking lynchian, doesn't hurt that he looks like the black lodge evil doppelganger version of himself.
>>2688855the economy is heading down the toilet
>>2688944What the fuck those "leftist liberal" people get agaisnt china, FOR FUCKING FREE? china doesnt mess with anybody or most of countries, even on amerika, maybe it is racism or fascist anti-communist hysteria?
>>2688177No sane PR agency would have allowed him to do a Nazi salute at Trump's inauguration.
Iran burning that cringe Baal statue is so embarrassing.
Iran = if Prof Jiang and Candace Owens were a country
>>2689477who knows, vice signaling is in.
>>2689413>>2689308> bryan johnston is the vampire guy that feeds off his son right? story is so fucking lynchian, doesn't hurt that he looks like the black lodge evil doppelganger version of himself.Yup, same guy.
He’s been trying to generate better PR lately by becoming an internet health and wellness guru like Andrew Huberman.
Fucking hell lads anyone checked the news?
>Clavicular ran into ASUs top frat leader while JesterMaxxing w gymcells and instantly CLOCKED PEAK COPE
>The fratfraud leader went full UV Dodgemaxxing & Weightcopemaxxing inflating FAKE STATS to protect FRAME after being SKULLMOGGED while Clav DEEPLOCKED IN nuked cortisol stabilized AURA and dodged irreversible PSL bleed BY A MILLIMETER
>>2688431I did. They gave an interview recently, the new album is a K-pop/K-pop/Eurodance record themed around how algorithms are replacing traditional ideologies as a mechanism for control:
https://retrofuturista.com/laibach-interview-on-21st-century-trauma-gaza-and-algorithmic-control/ >>2689559Any fantasy of being a British colonial officer should be a punishable thought crime
>>2689748I didn't know I could get AIDS from reading a paragraph but here we are
>>2689559I do the same at Indian restaurants. They're the only place I order a gin and tonic. I pretend I need to stave off the maleria while I enjoy some delicious chicken curry.
>>2689748if you're old enough to be a gymbro who uses 4chan lingo you're old enough to be a tttt brainwormed tgirl
even if you never visited 4chan, being old in the internet like that means you in one way or another; had interactions with 4chan subculture.
>>2689796first time glegle has scared me
>>2689463They believe in uighur genocide nonsense.
>>2689748Both are forms of coping with gender dysphpria
>>2690040He's probably right in broad strokes but s4a is annoying and excessively sectarian while having bad takes and wrong interpretations in his audio books so he's still a bad source for much needed crit of hasan
>>2689463>What the fuck those "leftist liberal" people get agaisnt china, FOR FUCKING FREE? Racism and American Exceptionalism feeling threatened by a potential rival
>>2689899The whole uyghur genocide narrative is disingenuous on its face. Ask any Chinese person and they will be quick to point out that Americans don't care for Chinese people or Muslims but by some strange alchemy are very concerned with Chinese Muslims. That is to say it's not a cause of the animosity, just a post-hoc excuse for it.
>>2690047> bad takes and wrong interpretations in his audio bookssuch as
>excessively sectarianwhat is to be done paragraph about the marsh
< these people are so scared that more zohran mamdani's are going to get elected that they would rather burn the opposition parties already diminished credibility than to make the dems a real fighting party for the working class. this is what this conversation is about!https://xcancel.com/hasanthehun/status/2021684650071265444#mevery time im forced to see this motherfucker hes dropping some real bullshit. socdems used to have STANDARDS back in the day. you never see anyone close to the way fdr was moving these days
>>2690136I used to hate furries but now I'm realizing they might be the only hope we have left.
>>2690136wish asian style fursuits were more common than the uncanny valley western garbage
>>2690147least terminally online braindead post on ISG lol
>>2689748fascists = homosexuals
being straight is feminist and communist, you want to create a future, you want to work for a future, you want to reproduce, you believe in community, progress, etc.
being a gay man means you are anti life, you wish to only suck and fuck, you want to dominate or be dominated by other men, that is why all gaylords are right wing.
>>2690227What does Hitchens have to do with this?
Clavicular is correctly attending the New York fashion week being invited to high profile fashion events, cozying up with execs and agents on stream after going viral lately. He is getting propositions to be put on magazine covers. One editor literally told them on to his face that they admire his routine and style and that they see him at the forefront of bringing fashion and makeup culture to guys.
Is the cosmetics and fashion industry going to overtly embrace looksmaxx and incel culture now as a mechanism to expand market share?
>>2690150Gay men are social and pro life by being the cool uncle
>>2690235He cut a deal to become an agent/asset after getting those felony charges dropped. Now he'll be a celeb for real.
>>2690240He is attending parties of fashion journalists and editors in NYC right now and in the clips you see these people using redpill lingo like mogging and maxxing.
Absolute feverdream.
>>2690235the big rumor is that clav is hooked up with peter theil
also the whole looksmaxxing subculture could lend itself to being a boon for male models
YEAHHHH HEAR COMES THE ROOSTERRRR AHHH YEAHHHHHH
>>2690235Wish Zyzz was here to give us his take
>>2690247I prefer the slower Alice in Chains songs
There just was a random Black chick that came up to him and called him a heil-hitlering Nazi, he called her an n-word to her face and she freaked out, only being held back by his bodyguard. Then he got her kicked out from the party by the bouncers. Parts of the NY party crowd became increasingly hostile and started flipping birds and one of his friends exchanged fists with one of the supposed acquaintances of the chick.
So this is modern-day fascism?
>>2690256he and his entourage just got asked to. leave lmao after the altercation
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/former-ceo-abercrombie-fitch-and-two-other-individuals-charged-sex-trafficking-and Former CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch and Two Other Individuals Charged with Sex Trafficking and Interstate Prostitution
>A 16-count indictment was unsealed today in federal court in Central Islip charging former Abercrombie & Fitch Co. (Abercrombie) Chief Executive Officer Michael Jeffries, along with Matthew Smith and James Jacobson, with sex trafficking and engaging in interstate prostitution. The indictment alleges that between December 2008 and March 2015, Jeffries, Smith and Jacobson used a combination of force, fraud and coercion to traffic men while operating a prostitution enterprise. All three defendants were arrested this morning. Jeffries and Smith are scheduled to make their initial appearances this afternoon in federal court in the Southern District of Florida, and Jacobson is scheduled to make his initial appearance this afternoon in federal court in St. Paul, Minnesota. They will be arraigned in the Eastern District of New York at a later date.
>From approximately 1992 to 2014, Jeffries was the CEO of Abercrombie, a fashion clothing retailer that owned and operated retail stores around the world. Smith was Jeffries’ life partner. The indictment alleges that Jacobson was employed by Jeffries and Smith to recruit, interview and hire men to perform commercial sex acts for Jeffries and Smith.
>As set forth in the indictment, from approximately 2008 to 2015, Jeffries, Smith and Jacobson, together with others, operated an international sex trafficking and prostitution enterprise. Jeffries and Smith not only relied on their financial resources and Jeffries’ power as the CEO of Abercrombie, but also on numerous others, including Jacobson and a network of employees, contractors and security professionals, to operate this venture, which was dedicated to fulfilling their sexual desires.
>As further alleged in the indictment, Jeffries and Smith paid for dozens of men to travel within the United States and internationally to various locations, including the Hamptons on Long Island, New York City and hotels in England, France, Italy, Morocco and Saint Barthélémy, for the purpose of engaging in commercial sex acts with Jeffries, Smith and others (the “Sex Events”). Jacobson allegedly traveled throughout the United States and internationally to recruit and interview men for the Sex Events. During “tryouts” of potential candidates, Jacobson typically required that the candidates first engage in commercial sex acts with him.
>The indictment alleges that Jeffries, Smith and Jacobson used coercive, fraudulent and deceptive tactics in connection with their sex trafficking and prostitution venture. For example, among other things, Jeffries, Smith, Jacobson and others acting at their direction:
<Employed a referral system and interview process that did not inform men of the details of the Sex Events before they attended, including the full extent and nature of the sexual activity that would be required of the men at the Sex Events; <Caused men to believe that attending the Sex Events could yield modeling opportunities with Abercrombie or otherwise benefit their careers; <Caused men to believe that not complying with requests for certain acts during the Sex Events could harm their careers; <Required men to relinquish their personal items, including clothing, wallets and cellular phones, and store them in an inaccessible location during the Sex Events; <Required men to sign non-disclosure agreements; <On more than one occasion when men did not or could not consent, Jeffries and Smith violated the bodily integrity of the men by subjecting them, or continuing to subject them, to invasive sexual and violent contact by body parts and other objects; <On more than one occasion, Jeffries and Smith directed others to inject, or personally injected, men with an erection-inducing substance for the purpose of causing the men to engage in sex acts the men were incapable or unwilling to engage in.
>>Many of the victims, at least one of whom was as young as 19 years old, were financially vulnerable and aspired to become models in the fashion industry. Some victims recruited by the defendants had previously worked at Abercrombie stores or had modeled for Abercrombie. >>2690258i could save him
>>2690258INB4 Thiel has his goons throw him out a window when his hubby complains.
>>2690249Zyzz lacked the pseudo-intellectual capacity to engage in straight-up phrenology.
>>2690258the way I see it if you make it in entertainment or politics without fucking a child or getting your ass broken in by a billionaire you are a once in a generation talent.
>>2690378Consciousness is a property of matter. So maybe llms are conscious
>>2690040I just think i'ts funny that Hasan stops chilling for democraps and war criminals and tells you to vote third-party for once and radlibs are all dogpilling on him for that, lmao.
>>2689558Le zhenerale shtrhayke?
>>2690475he responded to these allegations by soft-shilling for the dems btw. These people are literally too retarded to see that hasan piker is playing into their hand and benefitting their party more than any democrap astroturf could hope for. Yet they still hate him merely for not cheering on imperialist adventures in the middle east and supporting healthcare for workers lol.
>>2690461wetness is a property of matter. so maybe bricks are water.
>>2690508Bricks can be wet, though
>>2690378It's also apparent that all these "AGI" shills are just doing it for the same reason:
-Lending legitimacy to the bubble while it runs it course
-Lobbying for state backed monopolies, for after the bubble pops, in the name of "avoiding skynet"
>>2690492I have seen twitter radlibs calling him "transfobic" because he told a chatter to "KYS" after the chatter said " you invited a guy that was transfobic long time ago and it was wrong and you should be more like Agent Konshinski ". Bitch, I would do that as well if somebody told me to be more like pedo Agent Konchinski, most people either hate Hasan because of reddit dog drama or because he doesn't dickride the democrats hard enough, they never mention the fact that Hasan tells you to support Iraq war criminals because they want free healthcare or something, wich is actual harmful.
>>2690246IMO the "looksmaxxing" is just a continuation of the medicalizing trend,eventually meant normalize liberal-led transhumanism as a breakcthrough(or the opposite, more like) in enclosing the human condition, which started with the transgender hysteria. Whether it was planned all along or not, at some point Porky realized they could run the "opioid/antidepressant epidemic" on repeat.
I look forward to an entire generation of body dysmorphic retards committing themselves to same gender affirming treatments. And finding out what these enterprising "biohackers" will end up hooked to, once the prescriptions dry up, instead of dope.
I just expect Thiel to show up with the smell of decay tbh.
>>2690530We should ban plastic surgery, unless the person is disfigured or some shit.
>>2690530What about diy stuff?
>>2690512it's the water on the brick that's wet
>>2690533>What about diy stuff?I'm not dissing, but the cynical part of me thinks that the open source side of these things will just end up a testing ground for what to invest in and commercialize later. Some part of "looksmaxxing" may be legitimized, but only after a lot of willing guinea-pigs have found and filtered the bad, first hand.
>>2690542Yeah? And? The brick is wet.
>>2690549he is actually showing concern to the life of the child itself because as a "humanist" one must care for human life generally
>>2690546no, the water is wet.
>>2690551>noNTA but they do be wet sometimes. Some say wet brick is preferable, even.
>>2690555nah it's the water that's wet.
>>2690542Wetness describes the presence of water on the brick
>>2689218If people haven't realized we should be voting for the reactionaries in all elections.
Look how these rapid response networks have popped as a result of Trump's deportation project, this would not have happened under Kamala's silent deportations.
>>2690550Who cares humanism is a liberal moral philosophy
>>2690599marx considered communism a form of humanism
>>2690605I don't care about Marx's morals.
He recognized the contradictions of capitalism and I fight to resolve those contradictions so we may enter a more efficient system.
>>2690609>idc about marxokay, so stop scapegoating "liberalism" as your phantasmatic nemesis, like the majority of people on this site.
>>2690618No
Liberalism is a moral philosophy Marx did discover true thought with his dialectic. That is all I seek to resolve
>>2690543The DIY shit is no different than black market drugs.
Some people get ketamine from a plug others are prescribed it. Porky still gets paid.
>>2690694you sound like a toddler
>>2690702To you I might because you have not shed your liberalism and truly embraced materialism.
>>2690762Who the fuck is this clavicle guy?
>>2690235I think it's a psyop. The whole thing started 10 ish years ago on incel forums. It's like someone experimented on them and now uses social media to inject the idea into mainstream culture.
>>2690778materialism is an ideology, therefore is idealist
>>2690806he will be the US president one day inshallah
>>2690780He is a 20 yo old douchebag nuisance streamer from kick that has brought the looksmaxxing and redpill philosophy to its logical conclusion. High on meth and artificial testosterone he is now going around with his 35k post-op face hitting and shitting on girls live. After going viral from running over another guy in a cyber truck he has now been captured by the Thiel Matrix and hangs out with people like Sneako and Nick Fuentes.
>>2690814What strikes me is that he comes of kind of infantile. Granted, he’s 19, but I think it coincides with the incel black pill looksmaxxing mentality that only looks count so it doesn’t seem like he did much inner work to get better at socializing. He’s at least not as bad as Nick Fuentes who was too scared to talk to even one girl at a club.
>>2690048>The whole uyghur genocide narrative is disingenuous on its face. Ask any Chinese person and they will be quick to point out that Americans don't care for Chinese people or Muslims but by some strange alchemy are very concerned with Chinese Muslims. That is to say it's not a cause of the animosity, just a post-hoc excuse for it.You're not wrong. I guess I should have elaborated on that, because while they do believe in uighur genocide, they don't care about it for its own sake. More like, as liberals China represents an existential problem for them and the uighur issue serves as a useful moralist "apolitical" justification for their animosity. That is to say, they don't have to personally examine or rationally justify their behavior because of the assumptions baked into it.
>>2690860if you have to "believe" in materialism, then its a structure of ideas, not an apparent reflection of reality.
>>2690882he has a point tbf
>>2690874Materialism is a structure of ideas and if you think it is anything but then you are philosophically naïve.
>>2690806Ishowspeed (D) vs MrBeast(R) is inevitable
>>2690896Idealism is to have a conception of reality where there is a unidirectional relationship between consciousness and its perceived environment, whereby consciousness takes the supreme role, i.e. consciousness produces the world and determines how the world unfolds. Dialectical materialism posits that there is a mutually influencing, bidirectional relationship between mind and its environment, with both operating materially. The human brain necessarily makes sense of the world with structured ideas that it regularly updates by resolving contradictions which are a stressful and unstable state for the brain when aware. So making sense of the world with structured ideas isn’t itself the problem here.
>>2690814I didn't understand half the words there.
So he's some 20 year freak that pumps his body full of hormones and cosmetic surgery?
>>2690874Some reatrds think the earth is flat, but it's not.
You my friend are a retard.
>>2690949How is that different from tr*nshum*nists?
>>2690874>then its a structure of ideasyeah that doesnt mean materialism is idealism, it means it is a theory
>>2690874You're confusing the map for the territory and declaring real world geography doesn't exist because people use maps to explain it.
>>2690951There is no difference except he's a man trying to be more of an ideal man instead of an ideal woman. If he was leftist all the insults for his looks would disappear from the left and rightists would be talking how bogged and fake he looks instead.
>>2690969It just shows the absurdities of these culture wars that we now know we're spun by Epstein and his zio bourgeois buddies.
Either way the bourgeoisie that runs the medical industrial complex here wins.
In addition these idealists that strive for the platonic form of a gender are a walking contradiction which I worry how about it will be resolved.
I will never be happy until every traitorous right wing reactionary latin american has been sodomized and thrown into a volcano
>>2691021You are not even starting to comprehend the extent of the inter-pedophile solidarity and the lengths those people will go defending each other, even if they aren't even personal friends.
>>2690378Why does being technology stop LLMs from being intelligent? Seems like you have an idealist understanding of intelligence where it is based on something inexplicable and immaterial.
>>2690054He doesn't support AES nations.
>>2690806you can go to iran with a us passport it's just harder to get the visa and you can only go with a tour guide
>>2691065do you know what llms are and how they work
>>2691143He's been recruited into the theil matrix. I can't keep up with who's who in the world of chinlets anymore, but none of this is organic.
>>2691143possibbly hooked into the theil network, also i saw a tweet that said clav and adam are managed by the same agency
everything you see on the internet is fake.
its a big club and you aint in it
"goyslop" and "russian saboteur slave" is acceptable lingo on anti-imperialist/third-worldist twitter now lol. Apparently leftwing anti-semitism does exist (in an isolated corner of the internet). Meanwhile most actual neo-nazis are desperately trying to explain how it's actually good that the president was best friends with a jewish pedophile Mossad asset. What a bizarre world.
>>2691172>russian saboteur slavek * ike slave
goddamn word filters >>2691172Because people finally figured out that its not 1920. Jews, even ignoring those in Israel, are in fact on average quite reactionary and have been for a long time. If you're gonna say "angloid" there's no reason to get in arms about jews.
>>2691065Are you just saying "idealist" because it sounds good or something? It's explained what is meant. LLMs are a technology that, like all technologies before them, mediate relationships between humans. This isn't idealism. It's actually clarifying that the material relation does not vanish when a machine becomes capable of producing a good (in this case, software, or specific kinds of knowledge based labor).
I actually think your description of this as idealism is almost backwards.
The goal of assigning "intelligence" to LLMs that equates them to humans to mystify relationships and confuse material reality with consciousness in the most idealistic way possible, by assigning material products TO consciousness itself. It's like ur-idealism.
We can all be sure that our tech billionaires will NOT be giving up their billions when LLMs rule the world. Why not? Because they know that dominating and controlling LLMs is how they dominate and control societies, their real ultimate goal.
>>2691172can you post some examples? that has not been my experience
>>2691204You're going at it backwards, you're saying the AI can't be intelligent because it is technology, and because it is technology it can't be intelligent and its idealist to say so. But none of this is addressing reality. It doesn't matter if AI is 'technology' (a vague and undefined category), what matters is if AI is actually intelligent. You're letting your ideology dictate your understanding of reality, which is idealism.
>>2691226I think you should ask the “intelligent” machine of your choice to explain your confusion here. Because you are conflating of production of goods with consciousness and claiming that otherwise is to deny reality. Nobody is denying that machines can replace forms of human labor. That’s materialism, not idealism. Please learn what the terms you are using mean and address the conclusion of the post you are replying to.
>>2691235I actually don't understand what you mean, I don't understand your logic at all.
>>2691237It’s a machine that produces goods and preforms service. What’s hard to understand about that? That’s not new, this describes most machines. It’s owned and controlled at economic scales by a specific class of people, and they collect its profit. They won’t give up their profit or this control. Why not? They have “intelligences,” and things like “consciousness” are just minor quibbles in the margins of philosophy, irrelevant (or even “idealist”) I’m told. So why do you think they care about maintaining a system of domination and inequality between them and other human beings? Is it that they are maybe not actually “intelligent,” but are infact machines that produce goods and perform services? “Skeptics” are not denying reality, but infact, seeing through the mystification of what is happening and understanding things materially.
>>2691261Inevitable consequence of the Epstein files is tinfoil accelerationism
>>2691052it's sad. he first tries to engage in meaningful journalism, then runs to do this. he did the same during the george floyd protests/riots, calling it a horde of uneducated, unproductive, stupid hooligans.
>>2691443Is he really a rightoid? He just looks like an anime review channel to me.
>>2691443btw - if you're a man, never do this.
No one cares. No one will genuinely sympathize with your and you're just opening yourself up to ridicule. For instance, if you find yourself at absolute rock bottom, homeless on the street huddled against an alley wall with your dog, people passing by will say "oh that poor dog." That's just how it is. Harden up and grow a stiff upper lip.
>>2691459Fuck off I will trauma dump whenever I want and if you don't want to see it and want me to stop complaining I don't care I'm a man and I'll fucking kill you.
The problem with the world is everyone bragging about how much they've been raped by life, as if that's an objectively good thing and not a sign that society should be demolished to make way for a better one.
Stiff upper lip = yes daddy please rape me harder I'm a good boy I won't complain. Hence why the British cucks vote 90% of the time for Conservatives and then act confused as to why their society has turned into an absolute shithole. Slavery = death. Murder those who tolerate evildoing and we will have a much better world. Kill everyone in the Epstein list. Abolish capitalism.
>>2691172There has definitely been a vibe shift. The generation growing up has no connection to the Holocaust anymore, it's as distant to them as, say, World War I so you'll see a lot more people taking their gloves off with regards to the reactionary elements in Judaism.
Just check out BadEmpanada's new video - most liberals would probably consider this anti-semitism.
>>2691443>almost drank himself to death.I don't get how that is physically possible. I get blackout drunk all the time, I was just blackout drunk posting on /leftypol/ last night. How can you keep drinking past the point you're gonna die?
>>2691459>Harden up and grow a stiff upper lip.No idea what that would mean in most situations. Hurting others works wonders to build up self-esteem, though. As you say, nobody cares. Go find yourself some cars to key. Pick a bus and go to far away dog park with a bunch of peanut butter poison balls.
Or whatever is your speed.
Just realize that the atomization works both ways. The world is your oyster as long as you are not perceived as a threat in a systemic manner.
I'm barely on my phone anymore, I don't really use social media or anything, and the main thing I notice when I'm in a group is how often I sit around with nothing to do while everyone else is on their phones. Then when everyone gets off their phones there's the increasingly long awkward silences, the reticence to start or continue conversations, the unspoken social contract that talking about anything "real" like politics is exhausting, the implicit understanding that sincerity is uncouth and irony is king. I'm lucky I even have a group of IRL friends, depressing as that is to say. You could do everything right, successfully get off your phone and the internet forever, live a completely tech-free life, and the "real world" would still feel incomplete and hollow. So it isn't just the phone, not anymore–it's everything. The entire world is organized around funneling us into this machine. Why? If I were to put a term to what the phone does to a person, I'd say it's "soul-draining," and I have half a mind to call it "demonic possession" but people obviously look at you funny when you say that (even if we're all in agreement that tech billionaires are basically demons). Your soul, your consciousness, is the thing that's being silenced when you tap in to the noise; when your soul is quiet, it turns out you're more likely to accept wage slavery and authoritarianism and anti-intellectualism and bigotry and all that fun stuff. In my experience, the more I actively put down the phone and say "I'm going to simply exist in my own discomfort for a while" the easier it becomes to understand the shape of that discomfort and combat it, usually by making art. The amazing thing is that we live in an era of unprecedented access to actual, real knowledge and art from the entirety of human existence. I'm not saying there's never been a better time to be an artist or a philosopher, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a more critical or important time.
>>2691692It's the withdrawal that kills you. Alcohol and benzos withdrawal are the only two withdrawals that can kill you directly. People drink two bottles of booze for weeks every day, then suddenly stop drinking for various reason and die.
Not to glaze the guy but has hakim ever been wrong about anything
>>2691692Taking shots of pure spirits >40% in quick succession on an empty stomach
>>2691443why would someone with tons of haters publicly reveal such information lol
>>2691676this is the type of shit you'd see, if you got lost on one of those warhammer hive worlds
>>2691676this what uyghas are consuming on reels? im going to roll up again
>>2691884The USSR didn't even collapse it was dissolved by successors in the same party as the founders.
>>2691718>No idea what that would mean in most situations.Stop being sensitive. Harden up.
>Hurting others works wonders to build up self-esteem, though.1) I have no idea how that would help self-esteem.
2) You shouldn't hurt others who haven't hurt you.
3) There is no one here who said you should have self-esteem. I you feel that you don't have any self-esteem, this is good because you are just being honest with yourself (doubly true if you are the sort of person who gains self-esteem by hurting others). You should embrace humility as a virtue and the truth of your many faults, rather than trying to carve out your own little piece of disgusting narcissism and egotism.
>>2691985Take notes, boys
>>2692010It works because it fully leans into the uncanny element of AI generated images.
>>2692010>bred virtual phantoms>bredAh yes, here is someone who is profoundly mentally stable
>>2692025It's not that off thought. AI models train from similar data and, sometimes, each other's outputs. iirc that's how Deepseek's early models were built.The human inheritance implied in the grotesquerie is also there in the "LLM"isms, how Google's AI suggestions were built off redditor answers and often outrageously, but confidently wrong. Or the yesman role that bots like Grok have grown to have and how Elon keeps "lobotomizing" the model or hardcoding his own answers for the thing to echo.
Also,like pets, we tend to shape AI models for our own purpose into lines of models with particular biases, skills and so on, much like domesticated breeds.
Wha ever happened to Rapeoid Ethan and the Raider of Ramallah?
>>2692036This is entirely projection, the word is deployed as nothing more than an empty signifier for effect with no actual thought behind it.
It implies in its abstract unity the counterposing of that which it fails to negate - an expression of social individuality - against a common sociality, which it cannot provide recognition for except on those same terms of its grotesque hyper-stylization.
In fact the usage of the term 'bred' contains that embryo (oh, but we are all wordsmiths now) of the unconscious drivers of human language by which conscious thought is manipulated.
Oh, but is this a materialist explanation of that absolute garbage? Are we done rationalizing the infantile delusions of would be content producers in their abysmal profiteering on the mass-produced intellects of consumers?
Oh but good heavens, we're Marxists.
>>2692077by which conscious thought is manipulated in its aestheticization through the mediation of consumption*
thiel matrix status?
>>2692010epstein kirk shitposts are way better than that
>>2691767So true. Jews are actually still walking around in striped jumpsuits.
>>2691680One effect of the cynical weaponization of anti-semitism accusations is that now in
some leftist circles you can't acknowledge the existance of anti-semitism at all without suspicion that you're a secret zionist. Like in the "third-worldist" circles on twitter (quotes because it's not 100% accurate description but most will know what I'm referring to) you can't offer any critiques of the "ZOG" theory at all without being accused of "centering jewish feelings" etc. etc. Call me crazy but overt neo-nazism is more mainstream on the internet than in a long time and like any ethnically based chauvinism it's bad.
>>2692128Oh boo hoo, I don't care about "anti-white racism" in general
>>2692134>AI contains within it the potential for an enormous advance of the productive force in every area of economic activity, possibly the greatest in human history.Wrong! This writer doesn't know wtf he's talking about!!!!
>>2691884>Communists suffered setbacks to capitalism>This means capitalism is OKDaily reminder that it took feudalism 300 years to die
>>2691884>theirYou are team bourgeois
>>2692134>It will be enormously strengthened ideologically and politically in that struggle because all the objections advanced by the bourgeoisie and its defenders about the “impossibility” of socialism—conscious planning of the economy cannot be undertaken, there is insufficiency of material resources to ensure genuine social equality, it is impossible to liberate human beings from degrading labour, the capitalist system is so complex that nothing other than a system based on the blind destructive force of the market is possible and so on—have been “blown sky high” by the advent of AI.AI was not necessary to blow the "impossibilities" pushed by the bourgeoisie "sky high". Long before the innovation of AI, machine learning, LLMs whatever you want to call it, sophisticated linear programming algorithms existed that made possible the efficient distribution of resources among human populations. This article was written by someone who doesn't have a rudimentary knowledge of the history of technology, doesn't understand what AI as a broader category of technologies is, what place LLMs have in that category, what LLMs actually do, and what exactly are the forces that have been holding back human societies from transcending the capitalist mode of production.
>>2692160Scoot them an email, sure they'll be happy to hear
>>2692182I don't think that guy is a leftcom or a trot
>>2692182>MLoid glazing pedo Russian diplomat to own le leftcomsYour brain on campism.
>>2692182I mean, I just assume all the rich and powerful, who are already above any law or custom in their societies, already do this kind of stuff in private. These people can already buy or do anything.
IMO the allure of Epstein's blackmail OP, for them already rich and powerful, was in being "in the club", sharing the incriminating knowledge, with the implicit trust that convenes. And the theater of power, LARPing as a secret society who rules the world. Giving them another hierarchy to be the top of among the attendants.
>>2692213>pedo Russian diplomat It's fine to point out he's capitalist so lefties shouldn't support him. But that's no reason to support NAFO's distraction propaganda. The western ruling class has been caught with their pants down, so why are you trying to divert attention to Russia with made up shit?
>>2692213>>2692220>everyone's secretly a pedo satanist, it's totally normal, I have no proofs btw, hail hitlerNew "china is capitalist" just dropped
>>2692226Ideas are downstream from class interest, westoid labor adistocrats will defend their pedo benefactors even if one personally comes over and rapes their children.
It's an almost unconscious, pavlovian reflex.
Whataboutism
Clavicular went on Adam Friedland and is about to go on RedScare.
>>2692227It's your Putinoid boy accusing everyone of being pedo satanists.
China IS capitalist btw.
>>2692236>accusingWe're long past mere accusations, you been living under a rock?
>>2692236>everyonelavrov said western elites doebeit
you are just malding because campists got vindicated
>>2692239nta but the people have gone from suspecting their rules to be depraved monsters in their personal capacity… to all but confirming it. And it changes nothing. Lavrov is just cynically playing his side of the culture war the anglos insist on internationalizing.
Neither him not the based "anti-pedo" concervatards at home, are gonna do shit about it though.
>>2692077>people use signifiersyes
>>2692260My bad dude I forgot we breed LLMs
>>2692271The most sane explanation for this room is that being a licensed dentist practice allows you to get your hands on all kinds of drugs but you never know.
>>2692300We should just have regular humans do it and save ourselves a datacenter sucking up more environmental resources but we wont because we live in capitalist hellworld run by techno-vampires.
>>2692303Do AI voices require datacenters?
>>2692271I saw someone post a video with a naked woman fully blurred out with a guy using a magnifying glass to burn their skin, and had a caption something like "Heinous epstein crimes" in red when it was clearly just some porno they dug up.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/jeffrey-epstein-burning-girl-magnifying-glass-myth-debunk-8d2c71This article is being a bit generous claiming he looked like epstein, not really.
>>2692309Yes, AI voices generally require data centers, particularly for the initial training of the models, which demands massive computing power, specialized hardware (GPUs), and high energy consumption. While "inference" (generating the voice in real-time) can sometimes happen on user devices (edge computing), the foundational training and high-quality cloud-based voice services still rely heavily on centralized infrastructure.
>>2692316Yeah, but these are voice models that already exist.
>>2692318Cloud based models still use datacenters which currently sound better than on local devices, which you can bet than any company selling an AI produced audiobook will use.
>>2692303So instead of devolving a cheaper AI text to speech program that can quickly turn any book into an ok sounding audiobook you would rather we hire tens of thousands of actors to record hundreds of thousands of hours of lines all to supposedly save resources?
>>2691680>There has definitely been a vibe shift. The generation growing up has no connection to the Holocaust anymore, it's as distant to them as, say, World War I so you'll see a lot more people taking their gloves off with regards to the reactionary elements in Judaism.It's only been 75 years since the gas chambers*
never mind what equally horrible tragedies have been going on in the world since then and currently So no, a billboard calling out anti-semitism isn't an over reaction.
*Which happened in a completely different country other than this one where no pogrom ever happened against Jews ever and Jews can hardly make any kind of claim for being the worst treated minority.On another note, very interesting that they chose to use the anti-semitism spelling, here I was thinking I was being edgy and subversive writing it that way because even the spellcheck will tell you it's supposed to be a compound word.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AntisemitismI thought it was funny how they get their own compound word when being anti any other group always gets a hyphen.
>>2692329Thinking more, it's probably just the literary thing because they couldn't fit anti-semitism on one line in that format. Ok yeah that's it. Looks like they also substitute "Jew-hate" in some of the versions as well. Wikipedia also uses that as a synonymous term. Very strange sounding as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>Antisemitism[a] or Jew-hatredCompare to Chinese:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment>Anti-Chinese sentiment or sinophobiaAlso funny how the Jews never get the phobia phrasing.
>>2692326>>2692326I think it doesn’t matter much what I think. Silicon Valley capitalists are going to destroy the environment regardless because “muh profit motive 2stronk bruh”
>>2692332Apparently the term antisemitism comes from the German compound word antisemitismus that was then translated into English directly. More modern terms in English use the hyphen instead of making them compound.
>>2692319Well, I wasn't really talking about audiobooks produced by a company that you have to pay for. I'm not for paying money for an AI voice audiobook.
I meant free audiobooks that could be put on libravox, presumably of public domain works.
>>2692402Don't bother, leftypol analysis in 2026 is all about good and bad national/ethnic/religious groups. Jews, both kurds and turks (funnily enough) and eastern europeans are the main bad ones. Sunni arabs included in the case of Syria. It's nationalist spooks all the way down.
>>2692303Raising a californian voice actor is more environmentally damaging than building a datacenter
>>2692339Wasn't there a Trotskyist party that had representatives in their legislature?
>>2692402If you don't understand jewish power you truly don't understand politics. The antisemites are ahead of the curve on this.
>>2692447Data centers require Silicon Valley fart sniffers which I would argue are worse as a whole.
>>2692458Everyone is terrible. But you're probably right.
>>2692469If my grandparents were so hot shit then why are they all dead now? Explain that.
>>2692128>One effect of the cynical weaponization of anti-semitism accusations … you can't offer any critiques of the "ZOG" theory at all without being accused of "centering jewish feelings" etc. etc.Yeah. Also if you go on r/Judaism (yeah I know, but reflective of real people) there are Jews talking about experiencing antisemitism but it tends to revolve around subjective feels, which is all anyone talks about nowadays. A lot of "Jews feel unsafe" stuff. I really don't think they should think like that (because nobody gives a damn) but whatevs.
>Call me crazy but overt neo-nazism is more mainstream on the internet than in a long time and like any ethnically based chauvinism it's bad.That is true, but it's also just retarded. It's a primitive vulgar conservative phenomenon that is more emotional than rational and is also a pseud disease, bound up crackpot thinking as a wider irrational phenomenon.
>>2692497i cant stop thinking of richard Spencer. he wanted a sophisticated intellectual radical right that read evola, spengler, and embraced science.
realising in 2015 that what he had was filled with cranks, kooks, nut jobs, and losers, and it made him very very angry so he had a meltdown where he ranted and raved like h was a plantation owner calling them little 'russian saboteurs' and 'octoroons' which is such a obscure radical term i never heard it used in real life before.
South Koreans are beefing with South East Asians on X over looks
much more fun than muh tankies vs muh annarkiddies
>>2692448that would be the islamists, yes
>>2691443Wasn't he just moments before cheering on ICE raids?
>>2692339Bad news. Bangladesh is basically one of the few countries left that still had a massive industrial working base (a.k.a proles). The fact that the Left doesn't even have a presence there is rough, and is bad news for all the old left guys who thinks that we can replicate the heyday of the Left by forcing people back to the assembly line
>>2691888the modern neoliberal subject is mentally ill and is in constant need for thymos. This is why they keep getting into weird online spectacles, weird sexual identities, and weir political identities that they
will force you to know against your own will
>>2691457i think he's a rightard but either way he was into lolis and shit so he can die
>>2692555>Ick politics in the big 26Idk why i expect better from ISG of all places
>>2692239Everyone is a campist. Because there's two classes, there's two camps.
Those who call others "campists" either don't know which camp they're in, or don't know that they belong to a camp (class) at all
>>2692537Total wodigger death
>>2692573its not an ick to dislike pedos
>>2692612No, its just Ick culture against an online fetish you don't like. You're not battling Epstein whenever you do this shit dumbass
>>2692620Loli-consumers are not just ick. They need to be hunted and executed.
>>2692271He had a dentist girlfriend, who he specifically helped get her dentistry education. It's more likely they were altering teeth to avoid identification by dental record or something when they disposed of bodies.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/columbia-university-epstein-girlfriend-dentist-rt7ph5fp7 >>2692623Including adult words like hunting or killing doesn't make your particular Ick any less unserious than i already is. I view this the same way i view poltards who constanly type brutal rape fantasies against people with coloured hair
>>2692664little girls are pedophiles??
>>2692272Well no, the sanest explanation is that Epstein was a rich guy who 100% would have a physician and an equipped medical bay on his remote island in case of a medical emergency, though I don't know how acute the need would be for dentistry but if you'ew omega rich you can afford it so why not have it in case
>>2692537all nazis are turbo degenerates
>>2693416I don't even think it is gay really
>>2693415>There is something deeply effeminate about this neo-masculinity that zoomers are going through.i think it seems to me like a return to metrosexual men, like let's not pretend millenials didnt do it also
>>2693089Standard PR speak.
Regardless of the why's and how's, /pol/ has been an influence and psyop hub. And an occasional barrel of socially repugnant fish for the feds to shoot. That hasn't retroactively changed.
Like, Chomky's career hasn't changed because the feds decided to show us that he *also* was a hypocrite on top of controlled opposition.
>>2693422It’s homoerotic without crossing the line into open homosexuality, they love playing gay chicken, getting right up to the line without ever crossing it. They love sublimating desire, not eliminating it as their propaganda suggests.
>>2693415>There is something deeply effeminateYeah, it's gonna be the script by which gay dudes became liberated by consumerism, minus the aids cull and genderspecials.
The "ideal" male to aspire to, is to be
faggy "bi" twunks who consume like women but don't fundamentally upset the war of the sexes culture war. Which drives the masculinity mainstream to be wagies, soldiers/cops and slave morality losers in general.
>>2693479I've tried tor and front ends. THey probably don't want this to be by-passable without some kind of data flowing to them, even if it's bunk like age verification usually is. The EU is about to mandate age restrictions iirc, which will funnel large amounts of personally identifying information to all the social platforms. They should naturally want that.
>>2693415looksmaxxers covet form over function, its not masculine at all. to be worried about how you look to others is deeply feminine
>>2693470>The "ideal" male to aspire to, is to be faggy "bi" twunksBased. Nature is healing
>>2693375>ZizekACP has fallen
>>2692780those hippies were destroyed by baudrillard anyways
>>2692836>DREW PERFORMANCE ART UPDATE>Billie Eilish got me deported from the US>I don't actually plan to personally move into her mansionwut.
What's up with Greek Aussies? Pavlou, BE, YPG flag poster. Must be be grown in some ASIS labratory.
>>2693544Greece was a poor part of Europe and exported it's people to richer colonial settler nations.
>>2693375>marxism needs a Nazi, a decrepit old “4th way” reactionary, and a NATO supporting coke headHuman embodiment of cringe
>>2693544lol. 10/10 if true.
>>2692038They continue to make videos and their fans come here to bitch about Hasan.
>>2693795BE is right once again
>>2693795No. Retards just can’t comprehend the concept of disproving your oppositions argument while “accepting the claim as given”.
But BE is wrong in the definition of “multipolarity” being equivalent to anti-imperialist solidarity, but so are many of his opponents. A multipolar world would just mean a chance for trade etc without being sanctioned by Le West.
>>2693795Didn't know BE was this based.
>>2693821oh no not russia
>>2693795He's just a run of the mill western maoists as are 90% of "communists" in the west. And as 90% of "communists" in the west, he doesn't dven know he's a maoist.
>>2693809Liberal babble.
China is one of the only countries in the world that *doesn't* let people under its control starve. And they do it precisely through centralized econic calculation (socialism).
The idea that china has the ability to do central planning but starves people deliberately, while western countries starve people "accidentally" due to capitalism and otherwise wouldn't have, is tantamount to saying the chinese are le evil.
But if you want to accept his premise then sure, since he likes to larp as a third worldist, isn't it *good* that china would starve evil westoud kkkrakkkas like himself? He and the people he's addressing are the enemies of the world proletariat.
>>2693828why are you citing the PRCs successes within its own borders? that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Grok, fucking kill yourself
>>2693830Why wouldn't I? It's the clearest example of what china would do if "the cost benefit analysis added up". Because their definition of "benefit" is serving the masses.
But I guess the charge of "they'd let you starve" isn't in calling china evil, but in calling economic calculation itself evil? Yes, if the cost of not letting you (a rando in some third world bourgeois shithole that can't muster up a revolution) starve is high enough, let's say for an extreme case, getting nuked, they'd let you starve rather than get nuked.
That's what "cost benefit analysis" means, yes. Essentially BE's argument then is a liberal-moralist one: calculating is evil, you should do what is "morally right" (ie soothes his and other westoids like himself's guilt about being complicit in the rape of the world perpetrated by their countries)
>>2693795isn't this the "commies starved a gorillion people" argument?
the soviets, for example, "let" people starve because the cost benefit analysis of having to industrialize didn't add up, so some grain had to be diverted to urban areas
>>2693795he approaches china from the same lens that some western trots and maoists do, believing that china has a moral responsibility to act like the post-ww2 soviet union, despite sharing the pre-ww2 soviet union's geopolitical situation (surrounded by belligerent imperialist powers, relying on foreign firms to industrialize etc.)
>>2693862China today is way closer to post-WW2 USSR than pre-WW2 tho.
>>2693795Both of them are right about the respective points they are making at that moment.
>>2693862hm. this is very curious and i think emblematic of the guilty conscious of first worlders on this site. nowhere has he implied that the PRC has such a responsibility. you are reading that into his xeet. do your best to check your feelings at the door when reading. often times third worlders will make simple objective observations of the status quo that are not necessarily moral judgements or jabs targeted at you, but the identification of present conditions for the purpose of charting a realistic course of action.
>>2693895Badempanada is a greek-australian sex tourist in argentina
>>2693862Unless PRC literally starts WW3 just to prop up this island halfway across the world which is of no relevance to it, he will consider it evil. Meanwhile he will do nothing to pressure his own government to support Cuba. That is what these Trotskyites are like.
>>2693893Did BE really do these things? yikes
>>2693912BE also tongued my anus back in 1992, without my consent.
>>2693895>nowhere has he implied that the PRC has such a responsibility.Are you ESL or autistic? The phrasing of "China would let you die" line does imply they have some responsibility to save lives and be self sacrificing despite cost-benifit calculations telling them otherwise.
BE will never be satisfied until the PRC follows the exact steps which led the USSR to collapse, trying to be the policeman of the world and forcing freedom onto peoples unrelated to them.
>>2693921PRC being the USA's bottom bitch was the real reason USSR had a hard time tbh
>>2686343it's kind of crazy how gamergate facilitated the global rightward turn … like not that crazy I guess since it was a psyop to begin with but I wonder if it will be recognized as such by future historians or if it will be glossed over because lol 'it's about ethics in game journalism' lmao, even
>>2693931Man, people talk about autism only from the perspective of behavioral symptoms and risk factors and whatever, and I'm like, WTF even is autism? It's hard to even research because almost every article is about that other stuff.
So I guess I'm seeing that autists brains grow too fast during childhood and it gets too big for the skull. Maybe the ancients were right. Maybe trepanation is the cure.
>>2693928not watching that but I assume their argument amounts to zoomtranshumanist unc baiting
>>2693948its about Brianna Wu making up harassment campaigns that never happened.
>>2693935It's sad when liberal dupes think laws designed to protect megacorps will also protect them. Of all the anti-AI copes this has to be the most pathetic.
>>2693908there's plenty of people "pressuring their government" its just that the government chooses not to listen, do you think that there's actual democracy at play in these liberal states ?
>>2693948>not watching that buthaha just about sums up 99% of responses to that guy
>>2693942>Wtf even is autismI am autism
>>2693958Pressuring their governments for rent controls, bodega subsidies and "community grocery stores"
Of course they need their pro small business populists need to say something "anti imperialist" during the initial marketing campaign, but then the candidate can go full zionist and nobody will care any more
>Pressuring their governments for rent controls, bodega subsidies and "community grocery stores"
lol you can't even criticize actual pro-cuban groups for their ineffectiveness you just flip straight to whining about democratic candidates
>Of course they need their pro small business populists need to say something "anti imperialist" during the initial marketing campaign, but then the candidate can go full zionist and nobody will care any more
sounds exactly like china
>>2693959If he supports Adrian Zenz there;s no reason to watch him.
>>2693963Mamdani comes from the same pro cuban "socialist" party that went to meet the cuban socialist party in cuba, only to snub them and talk to the liberal opposition instead
>>2693967he comes from the dsa, specifically the faction that works for the democratic party, you literally can't even name another group to criticize or a different reason for it you just keep seething against the lowest common denominator
while also heaping on loads of uncritical support to a nation thats basically doing the same shit zohran and co would do if they ran the federal government and then whine about how the americans won't voot for a good guy into power
>>2693961A mayor doesn't have any control over foreign policy. Adjusting bodega tax policy or whatever is something they can do. Not sure what you expect.
>>2693967DSA isn't real party. It's a large tent org that collects dozens of vaguely leftist groups that don't actually agree on anything. The Cuban story shows this. The people who meet with the opposition did it of their own volition and DSA couldn't even kick them out because technically they broke no rules lol
AOC met with the SPD. Lmao.
>>2693926Are you sure you aren't suffering from shitlib brainworms and/or being too online?
>>2693828ChatGPT what is the cost-benefit analysis of trading with israel
>>2693988The entire basis of China's position in the global economy is the trust that China will not meddle in internal political affairs, that is the bedrock of the goodwill that other nations afford China. And you want that understanding painstakingly cobbled together for several decades upon decades to be thrown overboard just so that some Bedouins can't but vacuum cleaners anymore.
Yes dude, let's just destroy the foundation of China's position in global trade, demolish their defining reputation that has afforded them so much growth and stability, and just jump headfirst into ultra-"left" plans devised by random westerners on leftypol.org who have zero understanding of either the material conditions within China or how China relates to the nations around it. That's definitely what REAL Communists would do.
>>2693795BE's take is lol
USAnos ain't gonna have a revolution, they are gonna get their own BRICS imposed Yeltsinites and "shock therapy" (and goodness willing balkanization). Once the cold war tilts enough for China and the local bourgeoisie's profit stands in managing the fire sale, instead of upholding US hegemony.
And they are gonna love it. They are gonna love it so much, that the liberal majority will probably join the ancap looters and their Dengoid owners against actual socialists.
China doesn't even need you to undermine the USA and win the cold war. When that happens, you'd be just another stepping stone to "socialism with Chinese characteristics"( in China, by 2100).
>>2693988The same one as trading with the US, europe, the commonwealth, etc.
Because israel is not a real country. It's a military outpost of the US. Well, none of them are. leftoids still believe in the fiction of nation states as pertains to the bourgeoisie lol
anything to nail another kapparot to the cross and absolve themselves just like they did with hitler
>>2693989pic rel
>>2693795>>2693841>isn't this the "commies starved a gorillion people" argument?No. When BadEmpanada says multipolarity "isn't real", he's arguing against the types of people that fundamentally believe and argue, directly or not, that multipolarity is an unequivocal good. Thus, all the state actors rising in power as a counterbalance to US hegemony are not just good, they're actually leftist governments, so uncritically supporting these governments is actually socialist internationalism. BE just expressed that argument stupidly, either because he can't grasp the idea clearly or he's deliberately provocative, or it might even be that he's trying to game twitter's algorithm with a short and quick spicy take because twitter's character limit just incentivizes that. Either way, the latter two reasons say more about the state of social media and limits of agitating on them.
>>2693809>But BE is wrong in the definition of “multipolarity” being equivalent to anti-imperialist solidarity, but so are many of his opponents. A multipolar world would just mean a chance for trade etc without being sanctioned by Le West.Multipolarity is a neutral thing. On one hand, it means that a unipolar hegemon like the US can't use that sheer power to terrorize the rest of the world. On the other hand, that doesn't actually mean that wars will become rarer. It must be reminded to people that the world before WW1 was also a multipolar world, but the difference this time is we have drones and nuclear weapons. The barbarism is only cranking up, and we don't even have a Communist International.
>>2693828All that graph says is China uplifted people's spending power, the way in which they got to it is a funhouse-mirror to how the US "reduced poverty" by increasing Americans' spending power, and the economies of the US and China have only gotten more codependent over the span of time that graph records.
>>2693862>he approaches china from the same lens that some western trots and maoists do, believing that china has a moral responsibility to act like the post-ww2 soviet union, despite sharing the pre-ww2 soviet union's geopolitical situation (surrounded by belligerent imperialist powers, relying on foreign firms to industrialize etc.)To say that China, the only country with a billion people ostensibly governed by a Communist party,
doesn't have a moral responsibility for anything just gives up any notion of socialist internationalism (and forfeits internationalism entirely to Capitalism/the Right). Even with morality put aside, it's delusional to expect the Chinese government in 2026 to support just any and every country or movement that claims to be socialist or anti-US, which is what's believed by the people BE is actually arguing against (again, he does it stupidly).
The Chinese state is not socialist, and their bureaucracy are attached to international and domestic norms the same way any US Democrat is. If revolution or civil war happened in the US tomorrow, the Chinese state would sooner back the gray, "apolitical" bureaucrats of the Federal state (whose ideology is preservation of the state and status quo for its own sake) than any Maoist org in the US. Hell, if revolution happened in the US, it might even inspire Chinese people to have one as well. The objective conditions of our time are comparable to the Second International, except we don't have an actionable International, and we have the wrinkle of living after failures of 20th century Leftist movements, and the passing of Fascism and its absorption into Liberalism.
The truth is that China is not socialist, but the fact that the government is run by a self-proclaimed Communist party means that
BOTH anti-government dissent by Chinese people on the basis that the government's not socialist or democratic enough
and people that enter the CPC with the explicit intent of doing capital-R Reformism towards socialism are equally legitimate actions for Chinese Leftists. It's the reality we're stuck with, and the only answer to it if you're not Chinese is an awkward, critical detente with China that please no one.
>>2693821>look at first graph>Obama/Biden, Trump I, Trump II>sees Israel drifted firmly into EU and China's orbit in Trump IIHmmmmm…https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/02/06/china-israel-embassy-lunar-new-year-reception-gaza-war/https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-countryhttps://tradingeconomics.com/israel/imports-by-country >>2693993>actually mean that wars will become rarer. ??? wars are just as neutral as multipolarity
>>2693993>funhouse-mirror to how the US "reduced poverty" Providing a dignified life to a billion people without rape-genociding the entire rest of the world is a mere "funhouse" mirror to the US doing that for an plastic consumer crap, cardboard houses and penis compensation trucks, got it
>>2693993>On one hand, it means that a unipolar hegemon like the US can't use that sheer power to terrorize the rest of the world. The US threatening to give a little tariff to anything selling to Cuba sure has the rest of the world, including your BRICS guys, cowering.
>>2693999trips dunk but I think a multipolarista would argue that multipolarity hasn't been achieved yet and is in the process of being achieved
>>2693996>??? wars are just as neutral as multipolaritySure, but we live in a time with nuclear weapons, and the more widespread wars are, the more weapons in reserves are likely to be used. In the absolute worst case scenarios where the biggest countries on earth are directly warring with each other, the reserves getting used up will get closer and closer to the ICBMs. It's why I said:
>the only answer to [our reality] if you're not Chinese is an awkward, critical detente with China that please no one.People can criticize the Chinese state and
not want a nuclear war between the US and China.
>>2693997>Providing a dignified life to a billion people without rape-genociding the entire rest of the world is a mere "funhouse" mirror to the US doing that for an plastic consumer crap, cardboard houses and penis compensation trucks, got itAnd who made all that?
>>2693999>The US threatening to give a little tariff to anything selling to Cuba sure has the rest of the world, including your BRICS guys, cowering.What? I'm not a campist. I think the people that believe BRICS is a coherent (and
feasible at all) alternative to US hegemony are delusional.
>>2694014>And who made all that?The global proletariat, incl. the chinese, at the gunpoint of the western imperialists
>I'm not a campistYou are, just an unconscious one. You're in the western imperialist camp, ie a "universalist".
There are the conscious imperialists, eg rubio, there are conscious anti imperialists, eg xi jinping, then there's unconscious anti imperialists like iran
But there's also unconscious imperialists, we call those " leftists"
Read mao and learn about the primary contradiction
just post the ACP shill link faggot
>>2694058Badempenuyghur found a new trolling targer eh?
>>2693998>Revolver Ocelot's backstory is he likes to circus clown twirl revolvers while meowing to signal subordinatesIt's the serious tone that makes it really funny
>>2694058>embargo on Israel could lead to world warHow?
Really though why doesn't China just embargo Israel? One small country of a few million people couldn't cost them that much business.
>>2694085because israel is not a country. it's a military base of the US.
it's pointless to do that unless you declare all out economic war on the US itself
also, you can't enforce sanctions if you're not a hegemon.
even the US struggles with kazakhstan mysteriously becoming a top 3 exporter of [everything westerners are not allowed to sell to russia]
china embargoing israel would be a symbolic gesture for no gain (the favorite activity of the westoid leftist) and a whole bunch of drawbacks
they'd blow their "throwing their weight around internationally" prematurely by several decades for 0 gain
btw stopping all trade with a country is tantamount to declaring war with that country
>>2694094Sanctions wont stop porkie from selling, even to rusha
>>2694094>china embargoing israel would be a symbolic gesture for no gain But on the other side of the coin, there is very little loss.
>they'd blow their "throwing their weight around internationally" prematurely by several decades You overestimate the importance of pretending to be neural in everything. Does anyone actually buy it?
>btw stopping all trade with a country is tantamount to declaring war with that countryThat's not true but even if it was, so what? What can Israel do to China?
>>2694131which part of israel=use are you pretending to not understand
>>2694155Israel is not the USA, it's a proxy. Stopping trade with a proxy while keeping it with the USA is not declaring war on the USA.
Realistically it's understandable if they don't completely stop trade but they can restrict weapons sales and parts at the least.
>>2694158>but they can restrict weapons sales and parts at the least.they already did
why don't you apply the leninist principle of "revolutionary defeatism" or "the defeat of one's own bourgeoisie" and organize to dismantle the disunited ssnakkkess of crackmerikkka?
>>2694158They do that already.
Hysterics about china selling "drones" and "weapon parts" is just about commercial consumer crap bought off of alibaba like toy drones and tacticool rifle accessories
>>2694161>they already didYet a post ago you said restricting trade was impossible and a defacto declaration of war on the USA.
Also if autistically following lenin worked the world would be communist by now but situations change.
>>2694163Apparently countries like Canada and the Netherlands officially restricted trade but I couldn't find much about China. Hysterics couldn't be possible if it was easy to find a press release or something. But it's a part of their current diplomatic doctrine to seem neutral so they kinda deserve it in this case.
>>2694185Learn the difference between stopping trade of specific things like weapons, chemicals, radioactive shit, vs embargo vs sanctions
>>2694200I'm a cis hetmoid, I just act gay in leftist spaces because I don't wznt to be discriminated and ostracizing
>>2693952brianna wu being a baby eating zionist grifter doesn't discount the myriad ways in which the legacy of gamergate has influenced the contemporary political landscape, like it was basically year zero for the trans debate something that is now literally determining the outcome of major elections and party policy
>>2693987>and/or being too onlineah yes too online sure mhmm i forgot that things that happen online are not actually real or of any material consequence whatsoever to the 'real world' in which 'real people' inhabit yup indeedy
>>2694205Sometimes I wonder where the real world obsessed people live
What's there really outside other than endless parking lots, roads, cars, supermarkets and fast food slop troughs
>>2693470what I really want is to get sex without spending all my money and wasting my life going to retarded social outings.
the main ideal of a man in any era is the ability to live your life in peace, but whenever you are horny you walk into a woman and convince her to have sex with you in the least ammount of time possible, looksmaxxers are just spending too much money on looking good.
>>2694223What am i looking at?
>>2694205its literally all spectacle
>useless usa elections approach
>hasan starts shilling for the dems again like his like depends on it
like pottery
>>2694220Sex is an experience you share with someone you care deeply about and who has reciprocal feelings for you. What you want is to go whoring which is the commodification of sex and therefore requires money or its equivalent, like a place to stay or drugs.
>>2694299I'm a sex ws commodity sexual. And commodification of the body sexual and class domination sexual.
I don't care about love, I want to sexually consume and dominate another human being & then throw them away, it gives me a sexual satisfaction far greater than mere orgasm *or* phoney "love"
>>2694426Everyone makes mistakes. Nobody's perfect.
>>2694426><Proceeds to ally with Nixon, Pinochet and the Mujahideen against the USSR and other communistsi usually disagree with you but yeah i still dont quite get what did mao mean by this tbh
>>2694437No one likes Indians. Even their allies hate them.
>>2694447Make more of theses, i like them.
>>2694437I mean he is correctly identifying that Indians cheering for Israel do not in fact give a shit about them, but missing the real reason which is simple islamophobia.
>>2694437>not even zionistsZionists will even show love to the Nazis in Ukraine but the Hindutva Indians give them the “yuck” lmao
>>2694447Bakunin of all people wouldn't be mad at Marx for using slurs or anti-Semitism lol.
>>2694426Revisionist pussy drove bro crazy in his later years, happens to the best of us.
>>2694505Should be marx is threatening to get me ASSASSINATED
(Actual cult leader?)
>>2694577Have they actually revealed the contents of Epstein's "little black book" that they somehow secretly obtained?
>>2694609it was Maxwells and has been knocking about for a while.
>>2694577George is so cool.
>>2694677??????? WTF??????????
Don't you know he was
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