>>2503498Somehow, I'm continually amazed by how absolutely retarded and pathetic these people are. I know I shouldn't be, it should come as no surprise and yet it's still shocking.
"Starting no fap in 1/2 months. Wish me luck boys"
Good lord
>>2503129lmao
>disproportionate number of poltiical prisonersboo hoo hoo
>huge contributions to the strugglepatently false
>much more tactically advanced and militantbullshit
critical support to the State in its jihad against anarcho-wreckers
I wonder if most American "leftists" are deep down just liberals who are really angry about the US not having the welfare state and social protections other countries (particularly those in Europe) have, and jump towards leftism as a solution to the worsening inequalities to the world and abroad, thinking it'll be the best way to forcefully express their anger and enact the most change. The lib part also explains why they tend to lash out and be super scoldy towards other Americans who aren't leftie, and seem to just really hate working-class Americans who have conservative beliefs. Maybe I'm projecting, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of leftie millennials and zoomers felt this way. At the same time, though, it does make me think that what these people truly want is to "flee" or move to a developed nation with a social democractic welfare state (or really just universal healthcare at the bare minimum) like Canada (lol) or somewhere in Europe and live comfortably, and then drop their leftist beliefs to become a center-left/centrist/center-right/center-whatever European. Like, I don't have any problem with wanting to move to another country - it's always interesting to live abroad - but if your desire is to escape to Europe so you can be comfortable there and just do nothing else while sneering at Americans for being morons, I wonder how you'd react to the growing far-right threat in Europe. Are they going to just sit around doing nothing but posture like libs talking about how bad Europeans (particuarly disillusioned, angry working class Euros) who vote for far-right parties are and that they deserve the suffering that comes to them like they do with Americans and/or retreat to their social safety nets and say "at least we're not America" ad nauseam as things get worse and Europe continues to be cruel towards immigrants, or will they actually engage in leftist organizing in their new countries to make things better beyond social democracy, even if it involves participating in demsucc parties?
idk man, as an american myself who loves geography, traveling and learning about other countries sometimes it feels like Americans really do just view other developed countries as "le utopias with universal healthcare" that are glorified safe houses for them to escape to without having to do the long, hard, boring work of organizing to achieve it in the US rather than actually caring about the countries or their culture, or how they got their welfare ststes in the first place.
>>2503636the leak irc chat showed that 4ch mods allowed animu cp on /b/ for the longest time even tho they know it's illegal on other countries.
both gay
>>2503147Uhm I am not an ML I am a Maoist?!?!?!
>>2503168Agreed Mx Maupin.
>>2503969I am for a revolutionary free Tibet to seperate from the bourgeois-imperial state of China, however there isn't any 'sinicisation' going on here and language and culture seem to being preserved well. That angle is just western propaganda I think.
>>2503864>animu cp on /b/lmfao give me a fucking break
rapeape is talking about a child pornography production/distribution ring and you're caught up on doodles on /b/.
>>2504326>lmfao give me a fucking breakno.
ur gay
>>2504326The whole loli issue is a good way to discover who is a communist and who is actually just still a crypto-liberal.
Child abuse (or any type of abuse really) is a problem because it's antisocial behaviour. It's a person getting individual pleasure at the expense of making others suffer.
Drawings on the other hand are not anti-social behaviour and therefore not a problem to solve because nobody has to suffer for lines to exist on paper. Ergo getting mad over that shit is nothing but moralism with a bit of idealism (often these anti-loli crusaders believe that people will become child abusers simply from seeing drawings).
Mind you I'm not into loli, all I ever jerk off to is femboys (hopefully smug and/or silly) fucking muscular or fat women, or just with very dignified personalities(I've personally drawn Astolfo getting drained by Satsuki from KLK)
>>2504344Lolis, femboy fuckimg fat women etc
I dont get it man
Why
>>2503129>MLoid upset that anarchists existGet new material.
>>2503912THIS
It was even posted by a communist.
>>2504082>>2504059I'm pretty sure I've heard these same arguments from white supremacists and Israelis. "Why won't Egypt accept Palestinian refugees hmm?" and "Minorities have it too good, it's really a plot to take over and humiliate us!"
>>2503911I mean yeah, Fascism is pretty much what you get when it looks like the only alternative to a long running crisis. Like you've functionally got two arguments in mainstream political discourse:
Liberals
>Everything is fine and you need to stop complaining because that's how Trump wins.The Far Right
>Society is falling apart but if we beat enough people over the head we can fix things, failing that we can get revenge on people that we'll say are responsible for all this.The open racism alienates the liberals, it then becomes a negative feedback loop of "yeah we triggered the libs but how do we deal with all these things that piss us off?"
DRAMA DRAMA DRAMAa post of hassan piker was posted on r/lsf and then rexeeted it on bluesky
https://bsky.app/profile/contrapoints.bsky.social/post/3m25m2nc4ec24 . and then hasan responded to that on his stream
>>2504721trans people wouldnt have been safe do people not realize that we would just get right wing political violence until fascism takes another shot later down the line
you just kick the can down the road by voting against trump
>>2504719correction:
and then contrapoints rexeeted it on bluesky*
what the fuck is wrong with my brain sometimes it just eat words am i getting dementia?
>>2504281> Reverse great man theoryGorbachev was objectively a terrible leader, who was
"A" major cause for what happened to the USSR. Systems and structural analysis points to this. It in no way hinders Gorbachev's historic role in the USSR's destruction.
Denial of Gorbachev's historical responsibility, his record, and structural power that he had, because it feels like "great man theory" will only lead to apologetics, and a lack of political understanding of what really when down.
>>2504344China bans it.
You’re retarded
>>2505216They produce, yes. But who is buying?
Why not profit from western degeneracy?
Consider it the synthesis of forcing opium on the Chinese people.
>>2504719Kkkontrapoints is overrated af
Putting aside her zionism, her 2 hour videos can be condensed in 5 minutes. It is super shallow, ‘sparknotes’ level of simplicity. But Queen KKKontraziopoints drags it with her aristocrackka robes, make up and alcoholism and her minions worship her for it.
>>2505527When it comes to fiction, age is bullshit. You could draw a character which looks like a toddler and state that he/she is 267 years old.
The point about fictional characters is, if it looks like a kid and it is sexualised, then yes, it is pedophilia.
Loli fans are pedos, yes.
>>2505535No real adult person looks like a toddler.
One can mistake a 20 year old for a 16 year old, but not a 6 year old.
The point about lolis is that they dont even aim for the confusing 15-20 year old range, where it is not easy to know if the person is underage or not just by looking. Lolis are almost always drawn to look like kids.
>>2505542>No real adult person looks like a toddler. It's not exactly common, but this is just objectively false, see picrel.
>Lolis are almost always drawn to look like kids.So what?
>>2505544>grossAnd this is important why? Do you get all of your opinions from immediate emotional reaction?
>>2505554Your reaction to being pointed out you are willfully wrong, is to avoid making an argument against anything you view as self-evidently evil. You are being idealist and moralist.
>>2505562I mean, it cannot realistically be criminal to
imagine raping a child, because it is merely a thought, and noone is be able to read your mind. How is drawing out your thoughts necessarily more problematic than simply thinking them? It is certainly not comparable to acting them out if that is what you are implying.
>>2505563Whether or not you find it gross is completely irrelevant. Also you are being increasingly vague by using the term "pedophilic behavior" either you mean the textbook definition of pedophilia or something else, which is it?
>>2505571Yes, and there is a difference between drawing and actually raping.
>>2505573What?
>>2505628>You also obfuscate that being a lolicon is not what's being criminalized when it's distrbution of lolicon what's being pointed out here. I mentioned both because I had not seen any distinction brought up in specificity.:
>>2505583>loli/lolicons
>Unless you completely abandon the idea that law should be preventative in any wayI honestly don't have any interest in arguing whether the law should be "preventative" or not, because either way you are making the presupposition
>then it's absolutely worth pointing out how lolicons and actual pedophiles have shared fantasies between each otherThat these fantasies are
necessarily going to lead to crime, which is total idealism.
>>2505675OK
>>2505676You do know loli refers to the character depicted as a child, and not the one who likes it, right?
>>2505678Irrelevant.
>>2505675Actually, I just looked it up and I think this is false.
According to DSM-5 lolicons would not constitute the definition of "pedophilic disorder"
>>2505705In what way have I defended pedophiles?
>>2505706Where is your infallible and objective definition of "literal pedophiles?"
>>2505710Here:
>>2505628 >>2505721Yes, and?
>>2505723I'm sorry, it might be my debate addiction but it is SO FUCKING EASY to run circles around these rubes, they absolutely could not articulate their point if their life depended on it, and all I have to do is
not pretend comics are evil.
>>2505728True and evidence:
>>2505729 Maybe I misunderstood you but:
>when it's distribution of lolicon what's being pointed out here. Unless you completely abandon the idea that law should be preventative in any wayBringing up the law as "preventative" in the context of distribution of lolicon (banning lolicon is preventative of what?)
>(and thus should at least pretend to aim to curb anti-social behavior before it's damaging)Reading comics is "anti-social"? or will somehow lead to anti-social behavior?
>>2505735There is not a single argument made against the proliferation of lolicon materials in this thread.
>>2505737Until this one, lmao. I don't see much evidence.
>>2505763He's so mad, he can barely type clearly. 😢
Just admit you're wrong and it will all be okay.
>>2505766too weird to be accepted
loli,shota,furries = ONE STRVGGLE
>>2505765loli-apologia should result in permabans
what kinda lefty are you Herr Mod?
An antisocial action is an antisocial action whether commited by a pedo or a non pedo.
Fantasy is fantasy regardless of whether its an antisocial fantasy or not.
>>2505737Watching porn as a kid in general conditions them to see sexual shit as normal whether its loli or not. The rest of your post is idealism btw.
>>2505737There's no study that proves this.
If there was one – which I wouldnt be surprised if one was released that did prove this – then it would've been used already to ban it.
For now, it shouldnt be banned just as we shouldnt arrest people without warrents.
(Imb4: I'm misconstrued to be defending pedo material and just let the moralists rape children mkay).
>>2505733>moral hygiene argumentHey
>>2505728Was right
>The loli shit is the best way to identify idealists and moralists (aka lib wreckers) and even people with fascist leanings >>2506007I mean that kind of stuff reall sums up moralist mindset doesn't it.
There's a good guy and his goodness is defined by the way he butchers the bad guys. It's a sadistic power fantasy that exposes that moralist thinking is just sadism trying to have good optics. I guess its popularity scares you because it means a lot of people want to hurt others and feel good for it at once.
>>2505954You're not really very much of a "secret" fascist. You're just like every other fascist dressing up their shitty politics with bourgeois moralizing.
Even if everything you have said about lolicon art was true, you'd be talking about an single element of child abuse that pales in comparison to the vast, industrial institutions of child abuse and sexual abuse that are the bourgeois family, religious institutions, and capitalist industry and the entertainment industry especially.
But you and retards like you don't derail every fucking thread on endless, pointless rants about those, because you don't really care about children or actually doing anyone any good. It's all just about you and giving you the authority to abuse people that you find disgusting, which if I had to bet on it isn't restricted to only "pedophiles."
>>2506031I jerk off to femboys fucking MILFs, I'm just heavily invested because I'm into fandom stuff and I'm tired as fuck of kids invading those spaces and deciding they're the morality police. Also kind of crazy the way you don't acknowledge a single of my points and instead jump to making accusations to make me shut up. You're all just censorship-obsessed freaks no different from an evangelical christian.
>>2506034read this
>>2506026.
You're literally doing the "HA! I called you the ontologically evil thing, I win instantly"
>>2506041Is this trolling? by that logic you should also not draw any violence or depiction of any crime because it necessarily has to be inspired by the real thing. Additionally you lack an understanding of what makes CSAM bad. It's not bad because it just is. It's bad because in order to exist you need to really hurt a kid, and to consume such content is too encourage this. And not only that: consuming CSAM conditions a person to derive pleasure from the real suffering of a real person, no different that the /gif/ ghouls at 4chan that like to watch people dying for entertainment. It cultitaves anti-social tendencies.
If I copy random drawings then I'm not doing any of those things. Additionally, saying I'm utilizing CSAM by proxy strikes me as just a extreme stretch to stubbornly hold onto your point: there's anatomy books that teach you how to draw kids, like the morpho series or the loomis books. The majority of artists that learned how to draw learned from that stuff. Artists that learned from straight up CSAM are likely a hilariously insignificant minority.
>>2506052>It's bad because in order to exist you need to really hurt a kidNo, even if you didn‘t hurt the kid it‘s still bad. You subtly tried to introduce a loophole here. Curious for someone who isn‘t a pedophile.
>>2506057The dude is sperging out writing numerous posts with paragraphs trying to establish nuances to pedophilia and complaining about moralism. It‘s indicative of being a closet pedophile and unlike a free market place of ideas libtard I don‘t think everyone standpoint deserves a debate. Execute those freaks and be done with it. Who cares but a pedophile?
>>2506067>No, even if you didn‘t hurt the kid it‘s still badWhat? having any sexual interaction whatsoever with a kid is hurting a kid. What the hell do you mean "even if you didn't hurt the kid"? how is that possible?
>Curious for someone who isn‘t a pedophile.Lmao again with the free accusation. The "I called you the bad thing, I win" button.
>>2506083Explain idealism then. As far as I understand idealism is when you think history is moved by ideas. That the things that happen in the world are primarily influenced from the ideas that people have.
You are claiming that people rape kids when the idea is put in their heads by evil cognito hazard loli porn. Yet you say you're not an idealist?
>>2506085That history is moved by ideas is a correct and unproblematic statement. Idealism is when you conceive of consciousness as self-driven and above environmental influences, because it primary and gives rise to the world. That people are instilled ideas and act on potentially act on it is not idealism
and perfectly compatible with dialectical materialism.
>>2506101You're not contradicting me at all. I said "primarily" for a reason.
If there's not a material, physical thing pre-disposing you to abusive behaviour then catching boku no pico on TV or some shit is not gonna suddenly turn you into a rapist. To say that is the same as saying that rap makes people gangsters or something.
>>2506101If you're talking about that people will learn of the concept of being attracted to children, people don't need loli drawings to teach them that.
I think you guys think the very strange idea that pedophiles are made because they got self-conversion-therapied into it, and that they should be reverse-conversion-therapied out of it, which is very strange.
>>2506097God, you‘re such an obtuse moron. My point isn‘t that looking at lolicon is the sole cause for developing pedophilic inclinations, but that the acceptance of lolicon would make sexual attraction more common. Sexuality is a product of socialization as well, hence why teens engage in choking in sex merely because they saw it in porn.
>rather than having a dark triad power trip?Who would fuck a kid who wasn‘t already interested in doing so? Are you stupid?
>>2506112Acceptance of lolicon would just make people with those attractions less closeted, because in the end its a weirdass paraphilia that normal people dont just develop. A lot of people know scat or fart fetishes are a thing yet they're still unusual as fuck. Hell, half the jokes in Animaniacs are just weird fetish shit yet you still see very few people have those fetishes. Teenagers doing the choking thing is not comparable at all to motherfucking wanting to fuck a kid which is like ten ballparks away no matter how you look at it. An average Joe is not just gonna be into that one day. That's not happening.
>Who would fuck a kid who wasn‘t already interested in doing so? Are you stupid?You'd be surprised. If you read on the matter you'd know that a lot of child rapists are just sociopaths that pick on kids just for being weak and having few means of defending themselves and that are otherwise not particularly attracted to them. Also people with authority can do that stuff just because it gets them a narcissistic high knowing they can do bad shit and get away with it.
>>2506112This is the problem with this topic; you people have absolutely no clue about what you're talking about and yet act like your baseless instincts are divine revelations.
>but that the acceptance of lolicon would make sexual attraction more common.There is no evidence for this! No sexuality works like this! Homosexuals don't become straight through a prescribed regimen of straight porn! That's not real!
>Who would fuck a kid who wasn‘t already interested in doing so?The slight majority of rape against children are done by people who are not sexually aroused by children. Do you not know the first thing about rape? It's not done because they feel so much love, it's done because they want to feel empowered and that they are inflicting pain and humiliation.
>>2506106>You're not contradicting me at all. I said "primarily" for a reason.The distinction is not based on whether it is more so ideas than matter. It‘s about a unidirectional relationship between consciousness and environment where the former creates the latter. So you don‘t understand the term after all.
>If there's not a material, physical thing pre-disposing you to abusive behaviour then catching boku no pico on TV or some shit is not gonna suddenly turn you into a rapist. To say that is the same as saying that rap makes people gangsters or something.The human brain is a material organ that is plastic and subject to socialization. Your environment influences the development of your psychology, including your sexual psychology. But good thing you made a straw man argument that misrepresents how such a process would unfold as if anyone claimed watching 1 meme anime instantaneously turns everyone into a pedophile as opposed to ubiquitous media depicting sex with children as something normal and desirable.
>>2506129The distinction is not based on whether it is more so ideas than matter. It‘s about a unidirectional relationship between consciousness and environment where the former creates the latter. So you don‘t understand the term after all.
I find it kind of amusing that I say the exact same shit as you but in less verbose ways, which allows you to purposefully misinterpret them, then repeat what I said at me in a more verbose ways and look smart without adding anything.
>The human brain is a material organ that is plastic and subject to socialization. Your environment influences the development of your psychology, including your sexual psychology. But good thing you made a straw man argument that misrepresents how such a process would unfold as if anyone claimed watching 1 meme anime instantaneously turns everyone into a pedophile as opposed to ubiquitous media depicting sex with children as something normal and desirable.People watch cartoon characters hitting each other with comically oversized mallets and shit like that and know its not real stuff, and that its desirable and funny only within the context of a cartoon. Why would that shit be any different for a cartoon depicting any other shit that is obviously unreal or anti-social in a real life context?
>>2506140>I find it kind of amusing that I say the exact same shitYou didn‘t, you ape. But because you are mentally handicapped your rudimentary thought pattern crudely equates the two.
>People watch cartoon characters hitting each other with comically oversized mallets and shit like that and know its not real stuff, and that its desirable and funny only within the context of a cartoon. Why would that shit be any different for a cartoon depicting any other shit that is obviously unreal or anti-social in a real life context?It depends on what stimuli we are dealing with and how the brain responds to this specific stimuli. It is not generalizable. A simply example would be how female cartoon characters are made to look sexy which created the phenomenon of some people feeling turned on by cartoon characters, perhaps even anthropomorphic animal cartoon characters, which was unheard of in the past.
>>2506150>You didn‘t, you ape. But because you are mentally handicapped your rudimentary thought pattern crudely equates the two.Maybe I don't have enough words to express myself correctly given that english is my fourth language. Sorry I'm not a native english speaker and a third world brown "ape" instead.
>It depends on what stimuli we are dealing with and how the brain responds to this specific stimuli. It is not generalizable. A simply example would be how female cartoon characters are made to look sexy which created the phenomenon of some people feeling turned on by cartoon characters, perhaps even anthropomorphic animal cartoon characters, which was unheard of in the past.As far as I know nobody has access to fucking Lola Bunny and no fucking loli looks like a real kid does, or acts or sounds like one in any way.
>>2506122>There is no evidence for this! No sexuality works like this! Homosexuals don't become straight through a prescribed regimen of straight porn! That's not real!Yet again a horrible, obtuse example.
>The slight majority of rape against children are done by people who are not sexually aroused by children.If you are going to make such a precise quantitative claim that it‘s a slight majority then you must have a source, huh?
>It's not done because they feel so much loveLiterally no one claimed otherwise, you low I.Q. fuck.
>>2506158Kind of crazy the way you ask for a source in spite of not providing a single source for any of your claims. Also I.Q is not real.
>Yet again a horrible, obtuse example.How is that a horrible example? you're just insulting
>>2506122 lmao straight up lashing out.
>>2506162>Shifting the goal postHow? you brought up cartoon characters.
>It’s too obvious that if pornographic material depicting sex with children was common that the number of people seeking out sex with children would rise.So that's your argument? you just know it because "it's obvious"? Then I can just say "people wont become pedos because they see it in a cartoon because its le obvious" and basically I insta win right? lol.
>Just like teen porn shifted beauty standards to infantilizing adult women as well.Being thin and youthful have been the beauty standards for girls since before either of us were alive and go as far as when people had to comission paintings because there was no photography yet. Get real.
>>2506169>How? you brought up cartoon characters.It‘s shifting the goal post because your original point that I addressed was that cartoons do not change the psychology of people and I then gave an example of how cartoon characters made to appear sex has churned out people who feel sexually attracted to anthropomorphic animal cartoon characters. By asking whether or not people can have sex with Lola Bunny irl is shifting the goal post.
>Then I can just say "people wont become pedos because they see it in a cartoon because its le obvious" and basically I insta win right? lol.The difference is that you are practically a monkey with a diminished ability to accurately grasp reality which is why you come up with fallacious claims and conclusions making your assertions less reliable than mine.
>Being thin and youthful have been the beauty standards for girls since before either of us were alive and go as far as when people had to comission paintings because there was no photography yet. Get real.Beauty standards have changed all the time precisely because sexual psychology is subject to socialization, you moron, lmao. It wasn‘t always this way and hasn‘t been the case everywhere that thin and youthful women were regarded as the most beautiful. Additionally, infantilization is much more than that.
>Some sex offences against children are committed by pedophiles, that is, persons who are sexually attracted to children rather than adults. Most child molestors, however, are not particularly attracted to children, but merely seeking sexual stimulation through encounters with children to compensate for a preferred, but unobtainable or inadequate (sexual) relationship with adults. – WHO, Child sexual abuse: report on a consultation
>Some have a persistent sexual preference for children beginning in adolescence, while others have a preference for adults but act with children due to situational factors (e.g., marital problems, loss of wife, abuse of alcohol, or stress). Most theories focus on the former type since the latter type are really not pedophiles. However, most clinical and criminal studies find the latter type to be the majority of those who offend. – Adult sexual interest in children: Considerations relevant to theories of aetiology
>>2506194>By asking whether or not people can have sex with Lola Bunny irl is shifting the goal post.No, by that I'm pointing out that people know its a fantasy. They like to jack off to the idea of fucking Lola Bunny yet they know its never happening. They feel sexually attracted, so what? not happening ever. They're just gonna jack off to it.
>The difference is that you are practically a monkey with a diminished ability to accurately grasp reality which is why you come up with fallacious claims and conclusions making your assertions less reliable than mine.Oh, just insults. Alright.
>Beauty standards have changed all the time precisely because sexual psychology is subject to socialization, you moron, lmao. It wasn‘t always this way and hasn‘t been the case everywhere that thin and youthful women were regarded as the most beautiful. Additionally, infantilization is much more than that.Social standards and ideas change in accordance to material conditions. Being thin and looking youthful just signals that you have the money for gym and skincare. It's the same principle as that old Venus sculpture: being fat signalling having enough resources to get fat. Now being fat is a poorfag thing and being thin is a richfag thing. People at the top in hierarchy societies are considered more attractive and so is emulating them.
>>2506194Do you think Lola Bunny wasn't specifically created to be sexually appealing? People didn't initially find her unattractive, only to find her attracted through enough exposure, she was always designed to be appealing.
>It wasn‘t always this way and hasn‘t been the case everywhere that thin and youthful women were regarded as the most beautiful.<In le tribes they actually loved chubby girls like meThose "chubby girls" were not the WalMart sharters lmfao, it really wasn't very different.
>>2505971>>2505975>>2506023Sorry but you pedo apologists are objectively wrong loliporn doesn't come from the aether of the world or ideas (this is you being idealist btw.) it is a form of art that is derivative in nature like all art. And loliporn is filled to the brim with artwork, tracing and references to actual cp movies and fotos. No matter how many bad faith attempts you are launching of denying that this is literally the truth.
>Even if everything you have said about lolicon art was true, you'd be talking about an single element of child abuse that pales in comparison to the vast, industrial institutions of child abuse and sexual abuse that are the bourgeois family, religious institutions, and capitalist industry and the entertainment industry especially. Exactly and that's why pedo apologist worms like you who post relativizing schlock like this crap need to immediately have their attempts contained and shot down, of finding a little crack to post their pedo talking points in discussions about elements of pedo and child abuse culture that enjoy a certain tolerance in the mainstream like loli.
>>2506220>No matter how many bad faith attempts you are launching of denying that this is literally the truth. ? but its not? just draw. You can literally draw whatever. Now if there's really references to cp in loli porn I wouldn't know that and I find it a bit sus that you do.
>Exactly and that's why pedo apologist worms like you who post relativizing schlock like this crap need to immediately have their attempts contained and shot down, of finding a little crack to post their pedo talking points in discussions about elements of pedo and child abuse culture that enjoy a certain tolerance in the mainstream like loli.This is just hysterics. No person hurt no wrongdoing. Simple as.
>>2506234What projection? you claimed to recognize cp references in drawings. How would you be able to do that without knowing the actual cp first?
As for the rest of your post I'll just chalk it up to knowing that you do not draw. Anyone that draws knows you dont fucking need ref for every little thing and that there's a shitload of books that teach you anatomy and whatnot.
>>2506243My tastes irl are different from my tastes in fiction: in fiction I like to see femboys fucking milfs and irl I only like men older than me that give a nerdy vibe.
Btw you don't know what gaslighting means.
>>2506259This is just ragebait. You're claiming that I said stuff I never said just to say I shifted the goalpost. You're a bully like all antis.
>you sound fucking guilty as hell, lmao.Again with the same shit. "You're the bad thing I win instantly"
>>2506262asking for evidence is now asking for csam now ?.
mods, crush this derailer skull please.
>>2506265>ragebaitMeaningless buzzword.
You went from 'you don't need templates' to 'you don't need templates for every little thing.' This is you admitting that templates are essential to any form of art form and that all art is derivative in nature which is my point. So you lost.
>>2506270>please post the csam and loliporn side by side so I can compare themDude you just requested childporn on this forum.
>>2506271>I am a materialist >Btw I also believe that arts comes from a magical fantasy dimension Lol, sure buddy.
>>2506272I learned how to draw by using the morpho book series but once in a while I use reference to draw cars or other structures because I never learned how that.
You don't need templates to draw stuff you have memorized and you don't need your templates to always be real. The references I use for cars are just the ones in the "how to render" book by scott robertson. Again, you do not draw. You have no clue.
>>2506276I have fantasies of becoming UFC champion but I'm never even gonna be in a fight because I don't want brain damage and what not. My fantasy is inspired by the reality of the UFC existing and fighting being a thing, but I'm not gonna materialize it. Is this complicated to you?
>>2506278>>2506281actual trolling but y'all know the mods wont ban you lol
>>2506276no, it was requested proof that loli uses csam as base, you are making shit up.
now back your claim or fuck off.
>inb4 green text storynot a proof, an article and even a tweet of an artist is actual proof.
>>2507000the only good thing about BE is that he called out Contrapoints
the rest of his content is 'trying to be anti-h3h3 so hard that he becomes h3h3'
>>2506305>>2506308Who remembers this shit?
That's what I think about whenever I hear about "fashwave". Maxim Gorky was right
>>2506305also
>MoonmanDo you know where the melody from the ad comes from? It's "The Ballad of Mack the Knife" from "Threepeny Opera" by Bertolt Brecht, a literal communist and antifascist
Check out the Czecho-Slovak version
>>2507580What are you talking about? There is an anti-ICE thread right on the first page.
>>2507693No investigation, no right to speak. (But I'll let it slide because it's Reddit.)
>>2507738Most of them will either ignore it or make up some inane reason to justify it because they have no theory of mind but it's funny as fuck either way
>>250773999% of of "dissident right-wingers" are literal non-sentient apes who'll cheer on life in the country becoming exponentially worse because it'll make life worse for brown people too. It's their thought-terminating cliche
>>2507817Did AI put you out of a job making bottom tier slop? Did your favourite fursona artist go bankrupt from readily available generative models existing?
Is your SEO/Blogspam business no longer able to compete with AI?
Good.
>>2506290I like the fact that the multiple posts of bait started after a /get/fag baiter got butthurt:
>>2504326I just came back and I had no idea this gay shit was going on. none of this shit was even on topic of the first reply that was made before.
>>2507817no.
stfu gen alpha, the
boomers proto-zoomers are looking at photoshop images of space on facebook again
>>2508374its funny cos i never see zoomers complain about covid yet i constantly see boomers
its clear who was really traumatised.
>>2508376>its clear who was really traumatised.Yes. Noone.
>>2508380>did a lot of psychological damageNo. No it didn't. Psychology is demonology for secular midwits.
>>2508706The best thing that happened to Kirk's estate was Kirk dying.
Imagine being worth more dead than alive
>>2508669i wish more groypers were funny like this guy
instead they're all retarded
>>2508654>deserved to get Kirkyes
>more than Kirkslow down
>>2508799arent breadtube just a bunch of libs and crytoplibs tho it makes sense they are cucked towards israel
>>2508654truke
>>2508817Tiny is legit worse
>>2509021Lmao aryans in Antarctica theory slop ai video that's awesome.
I hope the nazis go there and freeze to death or get eaten by a polarbear
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