>>2674728I just think it's silly that the far right vanguard are literally the guys banning anime tits, and they just don't know it
>>2674777I just think the events were definitely correlated
>>2674604>>2674601>>2674777>>2674799its just a lot more likely they made up the whole pizzagate bullshit so schizos would elect a rapist pedophile TWICE in a hilarious twist of irony
/pol/ is scrapping the data and raiding a anti-ICE site.
If you can please contact the email of the site or text them about this
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/527449976https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stopice.net%2F>>2674823I'm confused, even if they scrape the data what information do they get out of it?
>>2674836A fictional win after they realized that moot at toddler poop and was raped by Epstein
i don't think they are evil because they are rich. this isn't a "power corrupts" type of thing. They are rich because they are evil. The traits that capitalist society selects for literally creates these people. There's no other type of person that can exploit often millions of people in order to achieve personal wealth. Capital is a dark God intent on ushering in an age of inhumanity, and that dark God has selected the most evil among us to lead this. That sounds anti-materialistic but it absolutely is material in nature. Empathy is weakness. Cooperation is the enemy. Competition is the only path. Every thing about capitalism as a system is designed to filter out the most evil of us as heirs to the wealth. And I'm willing to bet that these types of things have been being done since the inception of capitalism. The types of things that you'd only imagine the worst of the worst royality, the Bathory's of history? That behavior is not only completely normalized by the hyper rich, the ability to engage in that behavior is the only way they'd ever be rich. The system assures of it. If you can exploit 10 million works in your amazon warehouse, you can probably kill a child for pleasure.
the hardest part is going to be using this as a means to completely shatter the hegonomy the elites have over. everything is completely fake. it's all fake. the money is fake. the bills are fake. the job is fake. everything is an illusion created by these monsters in order to turn us into cattle. you know what im gonna be real im starting to think that all of the death of global capitalism, the genocide, the animal extinctions, the rings of child abuse, the wage slavery, the mass incarceration, letting people die on the streets, its all part of their rituals. its not just about profit motive, profit motive along cannot explain this, as there are legitimate arguments that not allowing the horror can lead to more profit "it is more profitable to trade with a man than to rob him"
they broadcast genocide footage out into the world, on their social media platforms, they own the social media, they own the bombs, they own every factory, every politician that makes the orders to kill children, and that happens out in the open everyday. the bombs hitting playgrounds in palestine broadcast to all of us, it's really not far from the sexual abuse rituals detailed in these files, that they released, that they control who sees what, who is redacted and who isn't
they released these files because they do not think anything will happen to them. they released them because its all part of the same sick game of sadistic pleasure seeking. they are getting off to the child being bombed, they are getting off to the tears of the mother seeing the footage, holding her own children close, they are getting off to the fact that we know, they are getting off on the knowledge that they are sadists, just like they are getting off on the abuse of those children on those ranches, at those parties, on those yachts. each time they get off, they get more emboldened. they have never been more comfortable.
they wouldn't allow the release of the files if they didn't know everything that was in them. if they weren't well aware how we'd react, what we'd think, the horror we'd experience in these moments of revelation. what does it matter that we know? as far as they are concerned, they won. they are dabbing on us. of course the sick, absolutely sick and depraved creature that could engage in these behaviors for sexual pleasure, for a thrill, for entertainment, would get off on the knowledge that you are aware of their sickness. And again, each time they get off, each time the reality shatters more, further into hopelessness we are brought. they are aware that we will think "nothing will be done about this", they are aware that we are sick but yet feeling more powerless than ever. they are raping the future by infecting the present with their sickness. further and further the essence of humanity becomes sublimated into the dark God of capital. the horrors of abuse, of child abuse, of ritualized sexual child abuse, cannibalism, blood drinking, murder for pleasure, it was a means to bring offering to the eldritch, so that it could annihilate humanity.
The release of the files, the revelations therein, the knowledge of the offering, it is a means to supercharge the essence of the dark god like one would charge a sigil. it is the altered state sublimated onto the entire planet by way of extreme alienation from the soul of humanity itself.
there cannot be any going back, once the reality sinks into the skin. There are horrors we do not know about, will never know about. Those horrors are almost certainly far and beyond the horrors we are given the knowledge of. The horrors we know pale to the horrors we do not know. Capital, as an all encompassing force of alienation and soul destruction will let us know in due time, as we are nearing the final, terminal stages of this species death. We have now seen what the rich believe will replace us. It is those rituals we do not know.
>>2674601Yeah bro you're right, it's totally a coincidence that /pol/ was created right after moot met Epstein. No correlation please don't think about this at all.
>>2674903So? Do you notice there's a difference in theme between /new/ and /n/ and /pol/? The name should give you a hint.
Doomscrolling is opium for mass.
>>2674984>So? Do you notice there's a difference in theme between /new/ and /n/ and /pol/? The name should give you a hint.they were the same shit in practice LMAO they were already jokingly referred to as /stormfront/ before getting remade into /pol/
imagine having such a peanut sized brain you literally cant look past the most basic of presentations
>>2673973Amerikkkans will make claims like this and then cry when they can't get their treats produced by killing brown children.
>>2675767What in the goddamn…
>>2675767Fertility cults attract the most unhinged women. Wouldnt be surprised a good portion of those girld were pimped out by their mothers.
In retrospect Hasan most be really relieved that the Young Turks kicked him out and booted him off that Noam Chomsky interview he was originally scheduled to do ten years ago.
Can you imagine the clips of Hasan fellating Chomsky over and over to be weaponized against him? LMAOOOO
>>2676043i was thinking the same thing - Agent Kochinski protesteth too much
>>2676061Americans are mentally ill. Imagine going to the Beverly Hills nepo baby spawn of an SFX production company exec whose brother cooked for the fucking Obamas and exposed himself as a pedophile, for your Epstein coverage.
>>2676061I said a few months before that what Epstein sparks the most in americans is morbid curiosity, they aren't that shocked about it tbh
>Theyre all jewish supremacists
>Epstein and Ghislaine ran breeding networks for women to get knocked up by high autism score blonde swedish men
>they are obsessed with molesting little blonde girls
>theyre mostly jews
Freud me in on this one
>>2676083>>2676083Like did they get mindbroken by the holocaust and now want to skin walk as nazis?
>>2676149>>2676164crazy to me that two seperate anons care about this shit.
>>2676184Fuck you, uygha. I had to watch my friends lose their livelihoods becaues of psychotic bitches following the word of a psycho british billionaire. It's nice to know that it was all the accusations from radfems were just projection and they were the ones spreading fake pedophile bullshit.
>>2664704Might be someone with a mood and/or personality disorder above all? Btw, why should people care about someone from Sweden?
>>2676226Disgusting slander.
>>2676235Fuck you. People know of your sins and the day of justice is coming.
Imagine defending an international pedofile ring because of some radfem shit. Ban any and all radical feminism. Jail all radical feminists.
>>2676255Picking a side in the pedophile - terf war is campism.
>>2676288>using Google this month in 2026why though, for what purpose?
don't care about the epstein files. what about the tectone files
the only tectone file i'm interested in is his suicide note which i wouldn't even read
>>2674753like we needed more evidence that moot is a pedo lmao
>>2676288Fuck off with this boomer shit.
>>2674753Is this what actually shows up on Twitter, the leftypol Twitter account? Lmao
Destiny went on a whiny rant on Fuentes being so 'disrespectful' to him and how he 'made him', pretty much whining like a slighted ex. What a pathetic gremlin.
>>2676379She has children?
>>2676337>>2676343the leftypol twitter was one of the first accounts who reported on moot being on the epstein files
>>2676379Has she said anything about the new files?
>>2676288Steely Dan used a drum machine and created the best music of all time, literally end yourself in the most painful and humiliating manner.
>>2676428game recognizes game, zionazis defend nazis
How do I be cool around people cooler than me
Like, I'm open minded and easygoing but I don't usually know things. When I experience them I usually like them but someone's gotta introduce me to them, even if I've heard of them independently.
As it stands I'm just kinda a boring politics autist purely because politics is all I know how to talk about and I fucking hate it.
>>2676479Just talk about video games something man, music you like to listen to, anything. Just don't autist out if they happen to like "normalfag" stuff like Call of Duty or Taylor swift and shit like that, just don't seethe and you'll be cool.
>>2676479get a hobby and drink alcohol
>>2676288>music produced under socialism (indistinguishable from music produced under feudalism)not the W you think it is breh
>>2676573Don't talk to reactionaries they know they are being obtuse
>>2676428Zionism has made him deeply mentally ill.
hasan should not still be on Twitter though, calling someone a "neonazi" there isn't even an insult anymore, it's a Nazi website.
>>2676288Fuck this neo-luddite shit. Samplers are part of technological development. Political hip-hop is mostly anti-imperialist versed in its lyrics at least.
"Hip Hop bad" is a Ben Shapiro talking point. Go back to /pol/
Even in genres like house you can find this. They used the technological development of music in favor of spreading a liberating message.
People may praise classical music because the anthem of the USSR is beautiful. Yeah, no shit, most of anthems are designed to be beautiful.
There is no such thing as socialist music also (what the fuck are we even talking about?). Nothing can "sound" socialist.
Im tired of this pretentious take that not even pretentious r/indieheads (which already are, very pretentious) take.
W0t if all those suspiciously wealthy patrons for furry porn are actually perverted billionaires.
>>2676226I haven't seen what AM has been posting but doesn't he basically have the same views as Max Blumenthal? And Max has been vocal in his criticism of the jewish pedo network.
4chud /int/ mods deleted my thread about the USSR because it's "not a currently existing country" but they allow threads about Nazi Germany everyday
>>2676912cry about it on /int/
>>2676288who the fuck cares. do you think proletarians become communists because of their own misery and immediate necessity or because of some bullshit about fucking music of all things??
>>2676810to the proletariat the petit bourgeois and the haute bourgeois arent much different and in practice they truly arent
>>2675077Sidney Blumenthal is the father of Max Blumenthal, he doesn't work under his son.
>>2676814Father is establishment (worked for the Clintons), son has been known for more than a decade to be far more radical.
>>2676975"far more radical" than someone who worked for the fucking clintons is fucking meaningless lol why are americunts like this
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/527563596These retards are so fucking easy to bait kek
>>2676986Holy shit I wanted to make a post but it said I had to wait 60 secs for the captcha. When did that happen?
>>2677001For a long while. Its just for new IPs.
>>2676986>bragging about 25 (You)s>on /pol/What do you want a medal or something
>>2676805a fellow 12tone enjoyer
>>2677126
How many years before we stop being surprised at post-racial fascism
>>2676428Zionists and Nazis love eachother
>>2677180>Chomsky: why yes, I will go on the Lolita express and hang out with Bannon, discuss race science and have Jeff do my finances for me >Finkelstein: Both Epstein and Dershowitz should be strangled to death Norm stays undefeated
>>2677197Here is a summary by ChatGPT if you don't want to watch the whole thing.
<Epstein’s Refusal of Self-ReflectionOne of the most striking aspects of the interview is Epstein’s repeated refusal to engage in introspection. Bannon presses him aggressively on whether being incarcerated during the 2008 financial crisis caused any moment of personal reckoning. Epstein does not hedge or deflect in a conventional way; instead, he rejects the premise outright.
When Bannon frames the question as existential—How did you not think “What the hell have I done with my life?”—Epstein responds that such a reaction would require “self-awareness,” which he implicitly denies himself. He reframes incarceration as merely another location from which to operate intellectually, rather than as a moral or psychological rupture.
This exchange is notable because Bannon, who usually escalates confrontation until he forces an admission, eventually abandons the line of questioning. The refusal is absolute, not evasive, and reveals a worldview in which personal accountability is conceptually irrelevant.
<The Claim That No One Understands the Financial SystemThroughout the interview, Epstein repeatedly asserts that neither he nor anyone else truly understands the global financial system. He defines “understanding” as the ability to predict outcomes reliably and argues that complex systems are inherently unpredictable. Therefore, by his definition, understanding is impossible.
This claim serves a dual purpose. On the surface, it appears humble—Epstein denies possessing unique mastery. In practice, it allows him to claim epistemic superiority without accepting responsibility. If no one can understand the system, then no individual can be blamed for systemic failure. Expertise becomes a matter of intuition and pattern recognition rather than accountability.
This framing is especially important in the context of the 2008 crisis, where Epstein positions collapse as an inevitable medical event rather than a preventable institutional failure.
<Santa Fe Institute and the Rejection of Complexity ScienceEpstein’s retrospective assessment of the Santa Fe Institute is unusually blunt. He characterizes the core mission—mathematizing and formalizing complexity—as a “total failure.” This is historically significant because the institute remains influential, and Epstein was one of its early and most prominent funders.
He concludes that science and mathematics are fundamentally limited tools, capable of describing only mechanical or approximated phenomena. According to Epstein, the most important aspects of reality—life, consciousness, intuition, creativity—fall outside mathematical description.
This marks a decisive turn away from Enlightenment rationalism. Rather than seeing complexity science as incomplete, Epstein dismisses the entire project as misguided.
<The Soul as “Dark Matter of the Brain”One of the most philosophically extreme moments occurs when Epstein explicitly affirms belief in the soul. He argues that the soul exists, animates the body, and departs at death. He likens it to dark matter: something whose existence is inferred through effects rather than directly observed.
This is noteworthy not merely because of the belief itself, but because of the certainty with which it is stated. Epstein treats the soul as obvious and uncontroversial, positioning modern science as deficient for failing to explain it.
For a figure who consistently presents himself as hyper-rational and mathematically inclined, this turn toward metaphysical certainty is unexpected and revealing.
<Experiencing the 2008 Financial Crisis From JailEpstein’s account of the 2008 financial crisis is unique in its vantage point. He claims to have grasped immediately that Lehman Brothers’ collapse was systemic and to have communicated with senior financial and Treasury figures from solitary confinement via collect calls.
Even allowing for exaggeration, the episode is noteworthy for what it reveals about elite networks: informal communication channels, reliance on personal trust, and the belief that intellectual authority transcends physical confinement.
It also reinforces Epstein’s broader claim that location, law, and circumstance are secondary to cognition and access.
<The Clinton-Era Subprime Mortgage ArgumentEpstein places primary responsibility for the financial crisis on Clinton-era housing policy, arguing that political incentives distorted lending standards and forced banks to extend credit to subprime borrowers under government guarantees.
This position is controversial and widely debated, but it is notable for how seamlessly it aligns Epstein with Bannon’s populist critique. Epstein presents the argument as technocratic rather than ideological, even as it assigns blame squarely to political actors rather than financial institutions.
The framing again absolves market participants structurally while condemning the intrusion of politics into “pure” financial systems.
<Bannon’s Loss of Narrative ControlAn unusual dynamic emerges as the interview progresses: Bannon, normally dominant, becomes visibly frustrated. He escalates language, accuses Epstein of evasion, and directly insults him. Despite this, Epstein does not concede ground or adjust posture.
Eventually, Bannon disengages from the confrontation. This reversal—where the interviewer cannot extract emotional or moral acknowledgment—is rare in Bannon’s recorded interviews and underscores the asymmetry between rhetorical pressure and Epstein’s refusal to internalize it.
<Ethics, Philanthropy, and “Dirty Money”The interview culminates in a discussion of whether institutions should accept Epstein’s money. Epstein argues from a strictly consequentialist position: outcomes matter, origins do not. He claims that beneficiaries—such as mothers receiving vaccines for their children—would accept help regardless of the donor’s moral status.
He extends the argument hypothetically to its limit, suggesting that even money from “the devil himself” would be justified if it saved lives. This is one of the clearest articulations of outcome-only ethics in elite discourse and directly anticipates later controversies surrounding his philanthropy.
<Overall SignificanceWhat makes the interview noteworthy is not any single factual claim, but the coherence of the worldview it reveals. Epstein consistently denies introspection, dissolves responsibility through complexity, rejects scientific limits by appealing to mysticism, and defends a moral framework in which ends fully justify means.
At the same time, the exchange exposes the limits of adversarial interviewing when confronted with a subject who refuses the basic premises of moral dialogue.
>>2677211its a very interesting interview
epstein explains how he was hired by the rockefellers to be part of the trilateral commission to educate world leaders on finance. its vindicating conspiracy theorists straight from the horses mouth. the underhandedness bannon shows epstein as epsteins strange charisma and intelligence combats it is also entertaining.
>>2677222
perhaps, but that also seems conjectural.
>>2677219>epstein explains how he was hired by the rockefellers to be part of the trilateral commission to educate world leaders on finance. its vindicating conspiracy theorists straight from the horses mouth. I suspect Epstein and Bannon were attempting to using Rockefeller conspiracy theories to psyop people into going at the wrong people, rather than the right target (Israel), and to help the "alt-right" psyop project going on.
>>2677211>reveals a worldview in which personal accountability is conceptually irrelevant.Stirnerbros… are we the baddies?
it is hard to keep one's sanity
where have all the proper communists gone
whether youtube, X, or real life
it's either a christ-is-king christcuck
an ollahooakbaring retarded islamist who will explain how all his reactionary tendencies are in fact le based and if you disagree you are zionist
a we-wuz-everything-everywhere hindutvatard who invokes pity more than anger
a zionist glowie who would sell his own mother for two dollars and if you disagree then you are pro-ISIS
>>2677182i like norman a lot but he was still defending chomsky very recently. im going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he just doesn't know because he says he only reads old books.
>>2677387he's right because you don't need to consider chomsky a good guy to respect his intellectual output lol
>>2677211>the financial system[…] is unpredictableyeah gee you would at least hope so lmfao
>>2677389>respect his intellectual output Chomsky released his most important work in 1957 and has been cruising off it ever since. That was almost 70 fucking years ago.
>>2677462Ram-seller, I'm going to battle, I need your strongest rams.
>>2677519>Chomsky released his most important work in 1957 and has been cruising off it ever since.The Fateful Triangle was early 80s
THOUGH.
Has Vijay Prashad commented on this at all? He fucking wrote a book with Chomsky despite being an ML
>>2677541None of his political commentary books are groundbreaking. At best you could argue they got a bunch of clueless liberals to question American hegemony. That only shows the ignorance of his audience, not the quality of Chomsky's output.
>>2677585Hyper-Imperialism was pretty great and featured a lot of (empirical) research though.
>>2677585you are not being serious man
Chomsky singlehandedly popularized (up to that point) European poststructuralism in the American context, despite not being a philosopher. He is as important for American leftism as Adorno, if not more because Chomsky was much more popular. You can disagree with Chomsky's theories but this attitude is utterly, utterly stupid
I mean even if you throw away all the philosophy and politics stuff, Chomky's impact on the field of linguistics is arguably greater, they have been necessary for the development of modern language models.
>>2677598That's what he was working on for the government. Basically they were trying to invent LLMs in the 50s and 60s. They wanted a way for the generals to command the machines in plain English.
>>2677586Never read it. Maybe he put together some evidence to support the idea but Karl Kautsky talked about it in the 1910s.
My main point is the only reason why anyone listens to Chomsky's political commentary is because of his reputation built as a linguist.
>>2677592>popularized Key word here. He's been a political Neil deGrasse Tyson for 70 years.
>>2677592>Chomsky singlehandedly popularized (up to that point) European poststructuralism in the American contextno he didnt lol
>>2677628Yes he did
It is normal to talk about Focault today but back in the 2000s everyone was talking about Chomsky. Fucking Chavez waved his book in his UN speech. Stop talking out of yer ass zoomie
>>2677641yes, it is normal for queer humanities student to read the latest theories coming from Europe. Indeed today if you go to one of them they'll probably be talking about Nick Land, Catholic feminist anarchism, and object oriented ontology, things that (you) will never hear until 20 years from now
>>2677647You're acting like anyone besides those types cares today either.
>>2677650anon, where do you think the idea of "fake news" come from? It's from Focault, and Chomsky is the one who popularized it
Back in the oughts when one think about fake news, one thinks about sensationalist yellow paper journalism , basically Alex Jones and co. It is only after the structuralists and post structuralists came, that the narrative got flipped; it is MSM who lied much more than muckracking journalists, and it is the so called respectable institutions that have deceived us. Populist skepticism about mainstream sources can be traced all the way back to Chomsky. This is what i meant by "popularizing"
>>2677670>Populist skepticism about mainstream sources can be traced all the way back to Chomsky.Pretty sure long before that dude.
>"All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake 'public opinion' for the benefit of the bourgeoisie. This is a fact. No one will ever be able to refute it. … For the bourgeoisie, freedom of the press meant freedom for the rich to publish and for the capitalists to control the newspapers, a practice which in all countries, including even the freest, produced a corrupt press".
>>2677698bah, Euro critique on newspapers isnt just that they are biased in favour of billionaires. It is that the very act of knowledge production, of determining what is newsworthy and what is not, is already a form of domination. This is much deeper than the usual leftist critiques which potrayed institutional knowledge making as otherwise noble mechanisms corrupted by billionaires, and straight up questioning the very logic of "expert knowledge" itself, and is definitely much closer to the modern definition of fake news.
>>2677630Chomsky's positions are the complete opposite of poststructuralism you absolute retard
haz is a streamer grifter.
>>2671002americans are facing homelessness because of corrupt officials allowing the construction of "beef brisket" houses that take too long and then fall apart.
>>2677715How does this contradict anything?
>>2677788Imagine getting ratio'd by David Icke in 2026. Holy fuck.
>>2677777
>>2671341Trots literally having the same policy agenda as the CPC just proves Deng Xiaoping to be the greatest to ever do it
Redscarepod anon is the most vindicated poster ever
The ThingNoticer-ification of the broader online right wing is something that has to be studied
That obnoxious leftcom newfag is really shitting up every thread recently, god damn
>>2677878yeah that "leftcom" is really ruining the ML woke nationalist vibe on the webforum D:
Chomsky is basically the old guy in the film snowpiercer, who turns out was good friends with people that controlled the train.
>>2677878You are the newfag. Based Leftcom funposter has been here for at least 7 years
>>2677908i enjoy kojima's games but people who think he was some kind of prophet dont realize the shit that shows up in mgs2 was already happening in japan many years before lol
>>2677893This guy beat his dog over the NYC mayoral election btw
hasan had a very interesting conversation with yanis varoufakis just now. they both believe that electoralism within the democratic is the way to go for leftists in the USA. yanis tried to convince hasan to run for office which was kinda funny
>>2677799Nick is obviously a closeted homosexual. I've spoken about that with certified gaydar operators - i.e. actual and open gay men - after something gave me some kind of uncanny valley feeling - for lack of better words - after listening to him spewing bullshit in some clips on twitter and I guess even here. They checked him - and bare in mind no one of them knew who he was and in many cases they didn't even understand the language - and they all gave me 100% positive results. After this first check, I explained a little bit about him and they all doubled down on their judgement, further nothing that a looooooooot of people on the far right are some kind of closeted if not repressed homosexuals. All the theatrical machismo is obviously overcompensation. That's not exactly this Mexican twink's case, but he's from a younger generation and now there's the twink phenomenon. I mean, certain forms of effeminacy - I hope it's a word - are now more tolerated in mainstream society, so this twink image allowed him to let some steam off - look at his mannerisms, his hands movement, his tone of voice - while not coming out in an official way. Just a couple of decades ago something like that would have been unthinkable in the far right environment. Think about the hyper-aggressive, loud, crazy machismo of an Alex Jones, for example.
>>2677922Hasan could have helped a few streamer women harrassed by a notorious eldritch zionist youtuber I don't want even name. He's loaded with money, yet instead of helping them, he let one of them having to apologise to the goblin in a video.
Varoufakis is an "economist" - gulag fodder - who's been adopting an apparently radical rhetoric, yet always pulling back when it would be time to draw the logical conclusion. Look at his shenanigans in Greece more than a decade ago. His a kind of rockstar for pretentious fake left radical chic types. A kind of Iggy Pop of "progressive" circles, if you will.
>>2677790David Icke, for all his faults, has always had a healthy drive towards adult women. At one point he lived with his wife plus a side girlfriend who was carrying his child. That's a flex. Fuentes is a sad joke of a closeted gay without the courage of recognising his true inclinations - in the Year of the Lord Two Thousand and Twenty Six - and this internal conflict produces monstrosities he brings in the public sphere.
>Simple enough even for you, mate.Icing on the cake. Aside from the fact that a Yankeefied Mexican can't just compete with English humour, I hope that hurt Nick like a stab in the guts.
>>2677922>they both believe that electoralism within the democratic is the way to go for leftists in the USAsaying this right after the epstein shit is simply hilarious. ofc grifters would fucking say that
>>2677872>>2677893>>2677916>>2677918This same guy literally printed out a photo of some journos profile pic and filmed himself peeing on it in the toilet bowl. The video is lost to time, and supposedly he's a fat NEET on disability that has admitted he has been in and out of mental health treatment facilities since he was a teen.
>>2677922Guy who ragequit his government job telling people to get into electoralism lmao
>>2677968the recent epstein files release confirms that wealthy elites commanded tsipras to stab varoufakis in the back btw
>>2670853based janny, we need more /siberia/ and less /leftypol/
>>2677972So? This just proves electoralism is a farce and you can't beat the system through playing by its rules
>>2670524I'm not seeing it. Can you post a direct link to the op-ed?
>>2677991She's just a random person with a random, uneducated opinion. Give it a rest.
>>2677999It's not random if neoliberals and libertarians believe it.
It's crazy to know how much lore we now know about the world from the Epstein files.
>>2678059I for one am
shocked to learn that so many of our top entrepreneurs and the public servants of our democratic institutions could actually be complicit in the most heinous of crimes! The unjust abuse of innocent people is not acceptable in the Free World. What we need is to vote for leaders with a strong moral compass who we can trust to safeguard our sacred Rights and Freedoms!
>>2678121Gotta handed to the twitter team, you guys were really quick with this one and the post went super viral, chapeau.
>>2678121Are zoomer men the most pro-Epstein generation?
>>2678126That's a pretty good response. I always forget how reactionary they are.
>>2677991my favourite whore is that podcast hoe that fucked adam bugmann and the experience made her anti semitic so she does meth and neglects her kid to post on xitter all day.
>>2677991>slopstackI want off this ride
>>2677999Aella is like the most famous prostitute in SF and is quite possibly a major fixer/pimp herself lol, it's like you're seeing gmax or epstein during the late 90s right there
>Go on /v/ and see a first descendant thread >Most of the people were just shitting on OP and even calling out the use of sex appeal in games when the game itself is shitDid the epstein /pol/ link, nuke the chuds that hard
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/732174573 >>2678279took a look to see if there was carnage and there's not much introspection. some are leaning harder into anti-semitism, some are worshiping epstein as a new champion and calling for the age of consent to be lowered.
there's dissent but I'm not sure if some of them are waking up or they're just getting their cheeks clapped.
they're definitely burning their idols, but they're natural recidivists and could easily reject post-modern neo-fascists just to embrace hick racism. it's not like the kkk and stormfront haven't historically been the undercurrent carrying internet trumpism.
shockingly the big reveal that they were the useful idiots for israel and the elite pedo cabal has only made them pat themselves on the back for always being right: it doesn't seem to matter that they were precisely wrong on the nature and identity of the pedo elite, and actually actively hoisted them into power.
if this is the western unconscious speaking earnestly then I don't think things are going back to normal after the midterms. no business as usual neoliberal is sweeping epstein back under the rug.
even in the scenario where the elections are clean and the democrats have enough credibility to form government how are they going to mitigate the compatible supreme court, neuter the mad king with near unlimited executive power, and dismantle and de-radicalize ICE?
>>26783414chan's posting per day rates have been absolutely nuked and have only been cratering ever since then. Anybody who is actually disgusted by it largely left the site and probably at least maybe has the stink that the right is full of conformists and morons at the very least while those who still post are just perma-there hobbyists or copers trying to wrangle everyone back into their stead.
Not that I will ever see mainstream meme culture turn left, but then again meme culture in itself is pretty worthless.
>>2678373
>NEVER GET DEMORALIZED, WE ARE BEING RAIDED BY LEFTYPOL, PROBABLY PAID BY JEWS, SO THAT PEOPLE START DOUBTING THEMSELVESthis is always infinitely funny to me, they think we're so strong we can turn them against each other whereas in reality it's a dead forum with infinity schizos on it
>>2678376They're so low autism score it's insane.
>the left controls cultureI fucking wish, lmao.
Fucking retards see a black person or a trans person on a slop TV show and think that this represents the apex of cultural influence. It has to be interesting to live day to day with such a retarded understanding of the world, so full of confidence yet so devoid of anything worthwhile.
>>2678382Funnier yet, they fashion themselves critical thinkers despite:
a.) Most of their takes being midwit contrarianism, which pretends to be above the midwit range for aesthetic signaling, and which is rampant and not at all novel or critically challenging in any way which doesn't reproduce the pregiven ideals already primed towards inculcation in our social order. (i.e. every edgy 4chan retard ever thinks that the concept of autism score is an 'uncomfortable truth nvke', not realizing that most people in day to day society would be in agreement with them, only by the standards of slightly more politically correct language, and not realizing that they're the stereotypical pseudointellectual kids who never grew up from their 'I was considered gifted in highschool' egotism phase, and not realizing that this slave collar is exactly the mark of obsequiousness designed by the system itself… critical towards everything except education and the purported structural hierarchy within it, all because education patted them on the head like a good Pavlovian dog. Curious!)
b.) The FACT that a significant, predominant chunk of the traffic sustaining /pol/ was demonstrated to be coming directly from israel, meaning that most of their 'edgy' takes are really just repeats of propaganda originally disseminated from 'zionist' supremacists, with the core logic of eugenic supremacy etc. being fundamental to the worldview of zionists–all of the modern variations of it are in fact made logically derivative from this, but nobody on that website is actually smart or original enough to challenge any of it because 'the science says…' (it's also funny how these same people will belittle liberals for uncritically saying trust the science, yet will conveniently and selectively turn into hardline scientific realists and empiricists if the question of autism score comes up)
c.) their entire worldview being derived from half-truths, grotesquely malformed relative to broader realities which they'll never access because they foreclose themselves of any involvement with certain texts and worldviews that they preconceive as being invalid. Now, to be fair, lots of leftists are guilty of this, too. But any good theoretician should familiarize themselves with all matter of perspectives so as to test and determine their own.
>>2678385Consider that 90+% of white supremacist, hereditarian, etc. talking points are virtually indistinguishable from zionist logic, from epstein's emails and worldview, etc. in essence.
The only thing which differs is the aesthetic property–substitute 'whites' and 'blacks' with 'jews' and 'goyim', 'good genes' and 'bad genes' and so on. Same formalism.
>>2678385>Funnier yet, they fashion themselves critical thinkers despite:this shithole isnt really that much better tbqh when everyone here is just a wannabe philosocuck who consumes youtube videoessays and tweets and not a scientific critic
>>2678362yeah. been looking up the sick fucks they used to post around 2016 and they're all kind of fucked. 4chan is concentrated failure:
>davis aurini: quit internet>ramzpaul: deep fried, looks like liver cancer, can't break a few thousand views>styxhexenhammer666: in jail for threatening an ex with a gun>ethan ralph: on ozempic, still a crackhead>andy warski: dead channel with fat canadian>black pigeon speaks: came back, channel is doing about 30k/video which is surprising>the quartering: bankrupt, imminently des>stephan molyneux: came back, dead channel, 300 views/video>lauren southern: came back after unsuccessfully tried to ease off back to crunchy, 120k on latest video, not sure if she's doing deradicalized schtick or what because I'm not watching her shit>sam hyde: dissappeared after adult swim. after a few false starts in UFC and internet reality TV where his kiddy diddling got him fired. came back, half a million/vid, shit tier interview show with maga shills, comments are paying him out for being a pedo<charlie kirk: he carries the flame>steven crowder: 100k/video, more racist>iceposeidon: quit internet>tommy robinson: deleted fucking everything, still uploading content for some reason?<daily wire: the one happy ending. they quit politics to produce b-movies cast entirely with white twinks and blonde bimbos. nobody can call them hollywood failures anymore. god bless.>ben shapiro: heard he was in freefall on daily wire due to his racial handicap. gone solo, pushing about 100k/video>candace: pushing 1.5mil/video. I don't know how or why but she booked Finklestein???>rebel news: figured they were on the ropes after all their presenters quit at once and revealed they were working for no pay, but they seem to have successfully replaced real news for boomers and are pushing millions of views across multiple channels >>2678385I'm not much of an autism score fag myself in most situations but I was mostly coming at it more from the angle that by reading between the lines, they are pretty obviously getting a bit frazzled by the general revelations that are coming out. In that sense the midwittery that they display has been exposed for the world to see and their over conformism to the safe edgy opinions that are espoused by pol causes a great deal of cognitive dissonance in their minds and at this point I don't even really see how they can really cope with that fact. Either they conform to the new standard and keep all of their new pals around and be best buddies posting epstein agartha memes and canada/greenland annexation videos or they turn their head away from all of that and maybe go through some other venue, maybe even the dreaded leftypol that lives rent free in their minds. The vast majority of them will conform, but they will never really reclaim the respect, the clout and the memetic power tha they used to have. They used to be able to carry themselves as if they were real punk rockers going against the grain, they would be able to woo a lot of insecure women and make them feel like they were plapping a real edgelord from the chans, something a real pick-me would really want to hitch their ride with. Now? I'm not even sure if those shoeonhead-tier bitches would even think they would be able to protect them now.
>>2678394It seems like all the big name chuds these days mostly comes from anime twitter but those people are jokes. Actual clowns.
>>2678387>everyone here is just a wannabe philosocuck who consumes youtube videoessays and tweetsif you really believe this buy an ereader. the xte ink x4 is $40 and small enough to hide between your arse cheeks. never been easier to read theory. the main problem with this place is the cross pollination with 4chan/bernout/dugin/acp edgelords so there's a constant stream of dickheads that haven't read engels trying to sell nationalist/incel bait as communism.
>>2678423? my post is clearly complaining about most people here, whats that got to do with me
>if you really believe this buy an ereaderwhat makes you think i didnt get an ereader a decade ago lmao
>>2678425>what makes you think i didnt get an ereader a decade ago lmaobecause I usually hear this argument as a bluff from pseuds.
>>2677991this is what progressivism comes down to lol. a washed up prostitute who hates her southern hick family supporting the peter thiel matrix and eugenics for being based transhumanist accelerationism
>>2678121As a twitter follower of Kyle, I can confirm Kyle follows the leftypol twitter account.
JK ROWLING IS IN EPSTEIN FILES
JK ROWLING IS IN EPSTEIN FILES
JK ROWLING IS IN EPSTEIN FILES
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>2678530that uygha be travelling anywhere
>>2678597I'd fuck her, and then I'd kill her.
>>2678597Japanese-Americans are worse than Irish-Americans in being reactionary shits tbh
>>2678672they just successfully integrated
to be yank is to be a fascist
>>2678683
im telling you this right now, dude is going to take the theil money because he is a grifter and also because its either take the money or get kirked.
he will piviot on a dime and suppurt jd vance and his dumb ass followers will memory hole anything bad he said about vance
>>2678683
why post across multiple Ops?
Also why not just retweet to your twitter buddies instead?
>>2678683
You have to start arresting influencers for saying this kind of thing.
Genuinely, unironically, straight to the gulag. Young men are too volatile to be trusted not to fall for brainrot.
>>2678683
this is how they've calculated performing damage control. turn epstein into some sort of funny meme or joke
The best way to go after the right is to just point out all the cringe and physically degenerate traits that they have and call them a bunch of cringe retards. You don't even have to be good looking yourself, becaues you aren't the one depicting yourself as some sort of grey-scaled giga chad all the time while looking like a fat blob. Concerns with hypocrisy has always been the cope of the weak anyways.
>>2669244So are they having children with the same small subset of young men or older men?
>>2679141For as much as 4chan brags about their greater influence on media, I feel like leftypol has (in comparison to /pol/ which has at least a 500k users per week) even more influence in proportion to our size.
>>2679192
>do nothing>winAre you proud of us Bordiga?
>>2679168no clue what the hell happened to /gif/. it was normal up until the 2016 election….. hmmmmmm….
It's been crazy to see how left communist internet spaces have in recent times morphed from being host to the most autistic and theoretically technical gen X / millennial dominated Bordigist, Damenite and Councilist discussions, - to now suddenly becoming dominated and replete with gen alpha schizophrenic mystical idealist chomskyite post-marxian anarchist gnostic chaos magician tiqqunist communizers
>>2679227Can you speak in a manner that normal people could understand?
>>2679168The "I Can't Breed" crisis continues to escalate.
>>2679192This is probably unironically true, we literally started the Chud meme.
>>2679110The real deal was a boomer girl that shot herself live on air on a local station in Florida. Can't remember her name, but there's a film about her and possibly a documentary.
The thing is she was possibly a femcel - never actually confirmed, but some of her friends said she confided she never had an actual relationship - by their late twenties, despite being physically attractive (which sets her apart from Fuentes), charming, clever and in general well liked by everyone (again, not something you would say about the squeeling Yankeefied Mexican).
I wouldn't put a penny on Fuentes ever doing that, it would be too good. But, you know, the happening in Utah last September showed us every once in a while someone decides to take things in their hands with these rightwing lunatics…
>>2679168Mom bully blacked with bleached and nationplay communist cock (as a joke), yep hyperborea achieved.
>>2679250A single communist male could've saved her
>>2679250christina chubbuck?
>>2679243Good to see you're still here! How are things going?
>>2679254Don't know… But what I've read she was like in a deep, crushing depression, even if she kept carrying on in front of anyone else and she deeply convinced herself she was a loser. Plus, we are talking about small town Florida, not exactly an environment where to find communists - male or otherwise.
>>2679256Yep! Thanks anon! Leftypol always delivers - even if it's full of dickheads sometimes…
>>2679264No, wait… Someone representing France of all countries virtue signalling on that issue? Do they think no one remembers all the French
intello signing that letter advocating for the age of consent to be scrapped? Fuck France and Fuck Musk.
>>2679266That was 50 years ago.
>>2679275It was also ignored and never went anywhere.
>>2679281
didn't this happen with matthew heimbach ?
>>2679266>the french are all le pedos!!!The 1977 petition was started because the French state was specifically using age of consent laws (and other things like indecent exposure) to persecute LGBT individuals even though homosexuality was technically legal. It wasn't really about pedophilia or the age of consent for either side.
>>2679288>using age of consent laws to persecute LGBT individualshow?
>>2679281
Cheating is based
>>2679281
>Sarah Stock
Didnt she get married about a year ago lmao
>>2679262>Good to see you're still here! How are things going?Just going to put this out there now, the McDonalds check finna be less than $100, low key was making more when I was selling tacos! I'm gonna be quite short on my motel room rent. It's pretty cold at night right now, and until I find a new home for my dog, I can't stay in a homeless shelter. If you've got the ability to donate, that would be really appreciated. Anything helps, and does add up. I'm about $250 short and have about 24 hours.
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>>2679296
According to Milo, this Schaffer guy had a gay twink phase.
Is the gay twink to wife stealer pipeline real?
>>2679290Age of consent laws were arbitrarily higher for same-sex relationships than hetero relationships. Legal punishments for sexual crimes like indecent exposure (or, again, breaking age of consent) also carried harsher penalties if the activity was same-sex. Again, on paper the French state accepted (or at least tolerated) homosexual activity but in practice they really didn't.
>>2679304Based.
t. raped by a fag as a child because my mom was a druggy whore
>>2679262The movie is called Christine by Antonio Campos and it's pretty good. It's kind of hard to find because it shares a name with a much more popular film by John Carpenter (and a lesser known one by Alan Clarke)
>Schaffer owns an own electric dildo, which he has taken with him on vacations to El Salvador and other places. On these trips he hires, and brags about hiring, female prostitutes, but spends much of their time together being anally mechanically penetrated by the hookers
lol
>>2679292Well if you want to have an epic drunk crashout like Schaeffer then be my guest. Speaking to the point, this is why i am skeptical of the right's call to retvrn to the family; forcing largely individualist urbanites will just result in idiotic events like these where they are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.
https://houdinimagazine.com/articles/2026-02-03-nick-fuentes-praises-jeffery-epsteinNick Fuentes on Stream: "Jeffery Epstein was cool as fuck"
The Groypers Embrace Pedophile Culture
Nick Fuentes defends notorious child sex trafficker and billionaire pedophile Jeffery Epstein in latest stream.
Nick Fuentes, the infamous alt-right streamer, as come out in defense of Jeffery Epstein and others in that circle. On a Rumble stream today, he stated "Epstein was cool as fuck" and he went on to rant about his acceptance of being a villain, that he doesn't care about being canceled. This is the same man that celebrated the overturning of Roe v Wade with the tweet "Her body, my choice." There have been years of ideological debates, tomfoolery around the "marketplace of ideas", liberal rot that has allowed Groypers like Fuentes to gain clout, the ability to speak loudly about cruelty, advocate for bigotry, and run fade for the billionaire class and their child sex trafficking, the abuse of little girls by the hyper-rich. Who do you think pays the majority of his bills? No doubt he's been made to debase himself for those dollars.
Epstein Merch – another piece of capitalist disgust.
See, there's no need for debate. Nick knows what he believes, who he is, and what he stands for. And we know it too. Given that people have already come to his home, some armed, some simply to remind him that he still exists in the real world. Do you think Nick has forgotten he can be touched? Or do you think the billionaires that pay his rent touch him enough to keep that on the back of his mind? Irregardless, it seems logically and morally consistent that Nick Fuentes is a propagandaist for the anti-life regime, and thus is a valid target. This propaganda exists to normalize child sexual abuse, while further degrading our world as a whole. Speakers like Nick attack the very soul of humanity and showcase exactly the culture the capitalists want for us.
Why should we spend any more time debating these characters? Or appealing to their morality? Or simply entertaining their ideology of cruelty? We don't have to listen to Charlie Kirk's opinions on the Epstein files, and soon, I have a hunch we won't have to listen to Nick's either. History tells us one thing:
No one is untouchable.
on 4chan they seem to be saying "Did epstein give you that opinion" as if it was meant to be a deliberate attempt to take the sting away from that comment.
>>2679330The reason why Nick is hopping on the Pro-Epstein bandwagon is because of Thiel, nothing less and nothing more. They want to pave the way for a Vance presidency and they need to distract the voters from the Epstein files and rally the RW base as soon as possible.
>>2679334Wonder how Nick felt when Thiel raped him? Was it worth the internet clout? The cheap fame?
Pathetic.
A coworker at my new part time IT gig is apparently a vague "anticapitalist" ie soc dem former conservative who watches Destiny and Hakim, thinks of MAGAs as retards, but simultaneously thinks that demoncrats and rethuglicans don't constitute a bourgeois uniparty.
I've never really encountered a ""left wing"" version of the incoherent ""median voter"" so this is a little shocking to say the least.
I gently told him that I don't really watch political streamers and instead read, so maybe I can slowly help him develop his ability to analyze the world of capital on more concrete lines.
>>2679355Okay fine I could have said materialist instead of concrete but I don't like slinging it around because I feel that I'm still woefully uneducated.
Alt-right ❌
Epsteinism-Poolism ✅
>>2678664removing himself from the gene pool, accidentally based
>>2678664rightoid infertility. you love to see it.
>>2679410Nah they are defending her
>>2678597R E V O L U T I O N A R Y
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P
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Send in 1000 Buryats
Stop trying to convert chuddies. We don’t need a bunch of sociopathic low autism score incel NEETs in our movement, let the right have them.
Focus on radicalizing shitlibs and succdems.
>>2679227Didnt happen. Leftypol isnt a leftcom place
>>2679461recruit people who are not online, go to your workplaces, schools, fuck even do it at conventions or at sunday service just avoid twitter like the plague
>>2679334It’s going to backfire.
No one likes pedos.
>>2678664What is all that testosterone even doing for him? It’s not like he has a ton of muscle mass
>>2679227>It's been crazy to see how left communist internet spacesI wouldn't know, I don't regular stormfront
>>2679335>rapedNick gave his bussy to the Thiel-Matrix willingly.
This latest Epstein drop will be huge for ACP, all the disilluons from fallen groypers will join.
They're discipline and class first mentality will ensure the reactionaries don't revert.
>>2679580Fucking over his collagen, making him beet red, and probably pushing back his hairline tho he has cope bangs hiding it. Bro blasted T just to have a natty calisthenics body sitting on his ass doing nothing lmao.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskSocialists/>looks in acp subs>is getting a lot of views>the posts arent even questions just "memes"huh, whats happening here
>>2680148
>"you can't just show our pig viewers that this is bullshit that we don't actually live by!"
>>2679912astroturfed larouchism on the glowie site that glows to high heaven obviously
>>2679912larouchism is just succdem sheepdoggery for republicucks instead of the usual succdem sheepdoggery for democucks
>>2680954i didn't know gen x grandmas posted here
I would have sexo with Sarah Stock. It should have been me. Elijah Schaffer does not like women anyway. How is a gay man fucking women anway.
>>2681005You need to exude more masculinity. Or maybe you need more money.
>>2681085its interesting how cults of personality work. if ben shapiro endorsed socialism tomorrow, at least half his fans would get on board.
>>2681085Capitalists are incredibly class conscious, often subscribe to Marxian economics and engage in class warfare (from above).
Hardly a new revelation, it's just funny when people like Musk blurt it out in the open.
>>2681085ben shapiro also has a labour theory of value.
he simply says later in this argument that a capitalist is owed profit because he has risk in his investment, but he doesnt deny that the source of profit is labour.
>>2681187I like how he tries to be 'charitable' to someone who already has been charged and legally convicted for child rape as if this hasn't already happened.
Sarah Stock's now ex husband waited for marriage while a gay man was pounding her the whole time lma-o-aml
>>2681114>new brazilian just arrived sexy and cute = 9 years old>"idk bro this might not be pedophilia"wow thats bad, like really bad. why is he defending this guy?
>>2681726Either because he's a nonce himself or because it's colossal indictment of the political and economic system that he is a stalwart supporter of.
>>2681759its the same reason nick the spic defends epstein he also admited he wants a 16yr old for a bride
>>2681777god kyle is such a lion
>>2681726Destiny is quite literally is being sued for sexual assault and the distribution of revenge por right now, he loves Israel and he is also hated by Norman Finkelstein. He also has a small circle of streamers that still hold onto him despite what has surfaced. He quite literally is the mini Epstein of the streaming world.
Kyle using moralistic nonsense to fight fascism instead of materialist criticism wow so. Rave and amszing. Thr left is 100 years behind the rest of the world
>>2681781Sorry to break this to you comrade, but most people believe in some sort of moral code, meaning that making moral critiques and appeals is an effective method of political agitation. Materialist analysis is a tool for understanding exactly what's happening in a given situation wrt issues like political economy, geopolitics, etc. Our use of it doesn't mean we need to act like autistic redditors.
>>2681777stop shilling your slop here kyle
>>2681786Don't engage with this guy. He has been spamming every single Epstein thread for the past week with his bad-faith, pseudo-purist tone policing. He is not interested in a good-faith discussion on what is the right propaganda strategy. This guy is just our resident gooner who is afraid that the growing public anti-pedo sentiment might result in collateral damage for his goonslop treats. Don't engage. Call him a nonce and move on.
Excellent news for the unemployed Phase Connect probably responsible for at least 10% of the chuddificatoin of zoomers is dissolving into piss
>>2681759Of course hes a pedo, his kids a nazi faggot
>>2682256>6 hoursbro go pick up a musical instrument or something. Jesus Christ.
>>2682256only played the first two games, but the first one has a certain nostalgia to it, simple and clean song is kino
>>2682273that guy clavicular or whatever not only gets absurd surgeries he is a meth head, going to be interesting freak show to watch 10-15 years from now
>>2682276clqvicular admitted to sneako that he is i fertile bc his body no longer naturally produces testosterone. it would be a miracle if he lasts 15 more years.
>>2682277>Destroys your body with absurd amount of hormone injections to find yourselfAnd yet i bet that clavicular's community is transphobic to the max. 0 self awareness
>>2682273The British accent is very fitting, because Brits look so fucking ugly both naturally and also when they upgrade their looks. Brits have genuinely weird taste in everything.
>>2681114It’s because Destiny works with the Israeli government and Epstein was one of Israel’s most important Mossad agents. Destiny has to talk about it because it would be weird if he didn’t but he can’t out Epstein too much because of the Zionist cock in his ass.
>>2673435>Telling so many chuds online to kill themselves now that it's been revealed that everything they believe is downwind of a child killing jewish pedophile.>We're so unbelievably back.He was connected to a broader network of likeminded criminal outlaws who not only aren't in prison or executed, but are part of a political movement that's captured the judicial branch at the federal level, which enables them to try to be outlaws openly.
<inb4 "Let people have fun and enjoy themselves"At this rate I'll only feel joy when every single one of these people connected to Epstein, as well as the leaders and thinkers of the Conservative movement, are made an example of. I don't care if I was the sole executioner. I'd do it on live broadcast. These people got to go on the firing line, and they needed to get put there a long time ago. I just want to see these bastards feel something resembling even an ounce of fear for the repercussions of the suffering they've wrought on the world.
>>2679315>Based.>t. raped by a fag as a child because my mom was a druggy whoreI'm sorry that happened to you, but that doesn't justify suppressing rights from a group of people over a harmful thing universally done by people of all sexualities. Would you sit here and argue that certain androphobic feminists are justified in vilifying all men, even if they were genuinely wronged by a man? I still wouldn't agree, but I'd at least respect the consistency.
>>2682273The way that AI guy looks at the beginning of the video almost feels like a parody of a W40k space marine. It's funny in a grotesque way
>>2682333That's a lot of paragraphs.
>>2682337do you feel called out?
>>2682333Would not be surprised if it came out that sex postitive feminism of the late 2000/2010s was entirely funded by bourgeoise perverts
>>2682333>Thoughtshaz is a tailist retard but the "compatible left" is indeed a problem
>>2682403Epstein did not traffick sex worker though, he trafficked young women who were often deceived about the true purpose of their employment. One of the main drives behind sex positive feminism is precisely to prevent these kinds of sexual trafficking, by having a formally acknowledged and regulated sex industry whose members can organize and protect each other from rapacious johns.
>>2682333Well yeah, a lesson the contemporary left needs to learn is, is that is not building on the ruins of real socialism (WP et al) but on the ruins of democratic socialism/social democracy (Western Europe et al). If we do not understand this, our analysis will be incorrect from the start.
>>2682432>sex workerIt's spelt prostitute or labour deserter
>>2682403It was.
Pornhub is owned by a Zionist Rabbi, then it's darker synester cousin Only Fans is also a Zionist project
>>2682333The bourgeoisie also control social production
>>2681777this is just always the logical endpoint of debate pervertry. You have to constantly debate more exciting and taboo ideas until you finally debate pedophilia
>>2682333Both Chomsky and Haz are left anti-communists.
>>2682333now he should point how the entire right wing conservative ideology that he sucks off was the base and spine of epsteins rise and power, down to the MAGA being effectively founded by him, and that conservativism he panders to is an abomination.
but that won't happen because he is just another tool of the pedophiliac elites.
>>2682880He points it out in that wall of text, thoughever
>>2682889>he pointsat an strawman that excludes the natural degeneracy of right wingery he calls proletarian, MAGAcommunism what ?.
another day of hasan scolding his chat for being skeptical of zohran mamdani haha
>>2677957LMFAO where did you hear that last part???
big ol fell for it again award for hasan h. piker who is finding out that he got hoodwinked once again by a 'progressive' democrat
>>2677972Actually what the files have also shown is that they were making moves for the sell-off if Greek state assets before Syriza was elected into government, lmao. It's all a big farce.
>>2682432>protect each other from rapacious johns.And get trafficked by pimps lmao. regulated prostitution does not work.
Where can I listen to the newest Radio War Nerd podcasts? inb4 "support the Exiled guys" I'm a filthy thirdie
I checked Kemono but they only have the eps up until june 2023
While I'm at it, anyone knows why Kemono lost the .su domain? It was amusing seeing the soviet internet domain whenever I went to check for fap material.
>>2683095don't remember where I got the link I am currently subscribed with but don't want to burn it
the link at jumble[dot]top looks like it is up to date, it has a bunch of other podcasts that might interest you too.
>>2677788We should scoop up David, he’s was like 90% right. Hell I would be fine if after the bourgeoisie gets liquidated we retroactively just pretend they were reptiles. They might as well be
>>2682333>socialism is an extension of liberalismACP LaRouche wreckers have zero historical materialism about the growth of ideology since the end of feudalism
>infiltrated their thinkingThey have zero critiques of modes of production determining peoples consciousness and believe in some paranoid conspiratorial "great man of history" theory about psyops
>midwitslol…it is the Jeffrey Epstein class of PMC who believe that having average intelligence is a sign that you don't deserve to have political enfranchisement and your voice doesn't matter…Haz will never be on the side of the proletariat and it shows lmao
>>2683159huh, looks like the eps are hosted at exiledonline.com, not very protected
anyway their two episodes Deconstructing "Munich 1938" seem particularly interestring to /leftypol/, thanks
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https://houdini-magazine.itch.io/houdini-magazine-year-two-issue-one/download/1FMPSiJR_IDtT2srDSOxg70KGt72x4u4q61Io1V6https://houdini-magazine.itch.io/houdini-magazine-year-two-issue-one/download/Qj8UaRnNGknE0eKPUuGXk20_ykMQZHj3yg9YbXTghttps://houdini-magazine.itch.io/houdini-magazine-year-two-issue-one/download/pyUTJCLrPm4HgRcDAvqGiupWv4q6f4RAl3gtFuLqhe >>2683179>Haz will never be on the side of the proletariat and it shows lmaoIf revolution happens in America, Infrafag and his cohort will be absolutely be siding with the bourgeoisie and the reasoning will be absolutely retarded.
>>2683181been liking that eastern front series they have going
>>2683247i got a week ban on reddit last week just for saying i felt like stabbing some jihadi news anchor freak reporting on Syria..
Despise the modern internet, can't say nothing. One of few things that keeps me on this site.
>>2683361>This isn't x, it's yYou mean chatgpt wrote an article lol
>>2683362>Survival and Sacrifice: The ethics of Gaza's child casualties These people are actual demons man
>>2683372>>2683365is from that article.
very likely AI, heavily repeats itself.
>>2683362that's an ai generated image btw the person is fake
>>2683379Somewhere down the line a human approved of posting this stuff, it being most likely AI slop is just the inhuman cherry on top
>>2683177tbh if the lizard people were allegorical (as some have auggested they aren't actually lizard people but it describes how cold blooded and inhuman the bourg are) i can roll with that.
>>2683425yea, my assumption is they input/curate the talking points and have AI bulk it out to an X amount of words article.
>>2683361Multipolaroid false flag lmao
>>2683362That name should be enough to turn tail and run
>>2683612>if youre poor, being murdered is mercifulshameless class dictatorship
Who's going to kill Nick Fuentes?
>>2683629himself, like hitler
>>2682333<natural longing for collective existence, militancy, discipline, meaningful struggle <left a clownshow of repulsive hedonistic freaks preaching freedom and modularity of the individual (stealth essentialism)<restraint, hierarchy, culture (aka muh tradition)<it's not about freedom at all guys<national liberation!<it's about fulfilling fate! (This is a cosmic struggle!) <We fighting for da truthOh look they posted his rant here too.
Daily reminder for all resident MAGAcoms, Haztards etc; Haz has never worked a single day in his life. So no idea why the fuck he's talking about a "class struggle" he ain't part of lul
>>2683835Try to have sex with the maid
>>2683835I would befriend her
>>2683835Anti-Bedtime Aktion
>>2683656Nonworking people take part in class struggle. Lenin never did manual labor
>>2683362Bruh look at that extremely obvious AI generated photo of "her". Mot obvious Mossad op of all time…
>>2683898Nazmongold
Asmeinkampf
Asmeinfuhrer
ACP still doing absolutely nothing besides getting in twitter spats?
>>2683926they opened a wrestling club with cuties
>>2684324>the only anti-pedophile partythey just took the trueanon line lmao
>>2673577That reminds me, I'm reading the "Heroic Legend of Arslan", is it accurate?
(Also it's fun read)
>>2684272>1948talent.comWell, gee.
>>2684324glorified social democrat award
>>2682273closed after one femtosecond
call me sensitive but ai shit freaks me the fuck out
>>2682333althusser was targeted by the CIA?
more on this if it's not just haz schizoposting?
>>2684324why do i feel like they are biting Houdini's style here?
>>2684505Because Houdini edits r just aura edits you can find on pinterest but filtered to look like zines
>>2684237glork spotted giving a slurpy at badminton concert
even art historians are shocked by this:
<The Chauvet cave (also known as Chauvet-Pont-d’Arc cave) is located in the Ardèche region of southern France and was discovered in 1994. There are hundreds of beautiful engravings and paintings distributed in all sectors of the cave. These include geometric shapes, handprints and more than 420 representations of animals. The average age of the works is 32,000 years and the artists belonged to the Aurignacian culture, from the Upper Paleolithic period.https://acercatealapintura.com/2021/07/04/the-panel-of-the-lions/quite fascinating how realistic the style is.
>>2684903And then some asshole decided to invent symbolic representation
>>2684998Yes but no. If there were no more women I think it would it would be a bit liberating especially if your the last of a species. I would finally feel free being the last human around. Not bound by anything anymore except maybe mortality. Yes no chance of sex but I never had much of a chance anyways and now I don't have to pretend their even is a chance because there is no chance. That's how I would feel.
>no one mentioned the clavicular situation
>>2685081literacy is bourgeois, anyway.
>>2685267This fuckwit is an insufferable trybard wannabe. He tries way too hard to complicate simple things.
Chomsky far left? Literally how? I am no linguist, so I can believe people who say that his work was revolutionary in linguistics.
But when they uphold him as a guru of the far left… like why? Because he said "uhhh i think our media manipulates our opinions and i think NATO is imperialist"? Any person with at least half a brain who follows politics for like 7-8 years reaches this conclusion. This is the great leftist thinker of Amerika?
>>2685273>I am no linguist, so I can believe people who say that his work was revolutionary in linguistics. Me either but a summary glance at Chomsky's linguistic assertions shows his views were anything but revolutionary. He's rabidly essentialist in asserting that language is innate as opposed to conditioned and reinforced and he outright ignores or glosses over evidence to the contrary. The only value in Chomsky was that his position as a "respected academic" in an ivy league school allowed him to express generally anti-imperialist views which usually wouldn't be allowed as a pundit in the mainstream media.
Yeah, Hasan deserves criticism but personally I have to wonder if the people still bitching about him aren't just fans of his enemies trying to poison the well against him.
>>2685016well. is that
clearly a lion's head?
who and what the fuck is doomernat
who and what the fuck is will stancil
what do you think of babykhila?
>>2685385>After suffering a severe stroke in June 2023, Chomsky is unable to comment on it.We should make a gofundme to send the ol' Noamerino to Canada get put down. His wife keeping him alive just for the pension money is cruel.
Is BadEmpanada an antisemite?
>>2685424he is literally hitler actually
BE should have roasted Elie Wiesel more, as Fink did in Holocaust Industry.
Everything Chomsky wrote Mark Fisher wrote better
>>2685267Aaron Maté made a similar statement a week ago which he has just taken back in parts.
>pseudo-sexualLmao. Noam fangirls ultras should just sit this one out and take the L.
>>2685435cortisol levels dude
Imagine if Clavicular gets booked and then denied his T shots in prison. He would literally transition into a woman, growing boobs etc. Woudn't this be the greatest irony?
I like BE. Am I fucked up?
>>2685559yea. you're are all fucky wucky in you're are noggin
>>2685536That shit site is so laggy
>>2685636Because not doing it will hurt his election chances next season.
During the super today a commercial promoting people to post blue squares to show they are against Jew hate. A billionaire Jew tied to Jeffrey Epstein who has been charged with trafficking women and owns the patriots is funding this commercial (Robert Kraft)
This costed 20 million dollars to publish during the super bowl. Like 100 million people will see this lol
https://x.com/YWNReporter/status/2019100814191776049Going to be interesting
>>2685686who cares about that irrelevant little nothing, i give her 6 months before some drama forces her to abandon the human cockrach's orbit after he decides to harass her for being a hot e-celeb
>>2685318>The only value in ChomskyWell mostly his value lies in his language automata work which is taught to all comp sci undergrads, this is why he got to be in epstein's orbit to begin with together with other MIT CS pioneers like Minsky
first 5 finger death punch album honestly enjoyable, everything else after that pure cop rock slop
>>2685667Do people even go after jews like that?
>>2685387Is that Brace Belden?
>>2685636Social DEMONrats always do this. When confronted with striking workers, their first instinct is to beg the police to shut them down. This is why Communism > Social DEMONcrazy
>>2685397>>2685424Not watching this, but no probably not. Thumbnail text is a pretty non controversial statement when referring to many countries.
>>2686343reliving my 5 seconds of fame award
>>2686241>>Hitler was a degrowtherBwahaha, the fuck is lebensraum then?! What a fucking idiot.
I swear to god this ass is so closeted (gayly) because of his Cristian/conservatard spooks that he basically equates communism with "the political system that plumps out the most babbies."
QRD on Caleb Maupin?
>>2686545I listened to him talking to Chris Cutrone (yeah, I know…) and was saying the CPI doesn't call themselves communist anymore because they're not engaged in labor movement stuff because workers are atomized hustlegrind gig entrepreneurs now. (Or at least see themselves that way.) Also the New Left was a deep state plot to undermine McCarthyism.
>>2686457the LTV is actually a marginalist theory of value. this becomes obvious when you read vol III, but it's already there in vol I (relative surplus value)
>>2686545Maupin is a cautionary tale of the dangers of Christcuckery
bluesky leftoids are fucking insane, all of them have their full name and address in their bios like it's nothing, with some shit like "writer for NYT and historian for harvard" while theyre sitting at about 145 followers
how do white millennials have this much confidence
>>2686849Either they've never been in any real danger in their life or they just don't give a fuck. Maybe they're just stupid. I don't know.
>>2685267Lain is so fucking annoying.
He talks in circles about how the left must listen more to the right while proposing nothing else.
>>2686849A lot of those guys are academics, scientists, "arts and letters" types who moved over there as a group I think. Their experience on Twitter was mostly following other people like them.
Also lawyers
>>2685267i remember when he went on cumtown it was very sad
>>2686546he is very smart in a retarded way, he invested all his intelligence in being retarded
>>2685990Even that one is mediocre at best.
>>2686924He and CPUSAnon should kiss.
>>2686343>Sarkeesian>"Stop with this neoliberal bullshit"Here's someone who remembers her for what she is
>>2686241Would you say Hitler
wasn't a degrowther? Hitler was of course a natalist
about Germans, but globally speaking he was anti-natalist. I read the Nazis were very skeptical about modern farming methods, so when they did a rough calculation of their needed living space, they did not take account of modern fertilizers etc. So the massive scope of their aggression towards the Slavs is directly related to that.
>>2687214Who cares? These religious debates are so tiresome. They are cultists and cannot be reasoned with, simple as.
>>2687214I don't get Sabine's whole "the establishment hates me!" schtick when she's clearly smart enough to succeed without it.
Zizek is certainly imperfect but also definitely overhated, here especially which I presume is largely because of his libtarded Ukraine stance.
Should be an interesting debate in any case.
>>2687277Sabine is, at this point, I would say completely a "grifter" and aligned with the far right to attack science and academia, or really any intellectual nexus that isn't dominated by SV techbros and venture capitalism.
>>2687277>I don't get Sabine's whole "the establishment hates me!" schtick when she's clearly smart enough to succeed without it.Why wouldn't you be? The science community and especially the physics community really are a hostile bunch. If you contradict their orthodoxy they're really like:
>We need to take this evil person down!>>2687293She doesn't attack science and academia, she just says that the theoretical physics field has turned into a cult and are wasting tons of money with nothing to show for it. I think she's probably right but I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert enough to say if what she's claiming is over blown. The argument she makes sounds well informed and it also lines up with my outsider perception of it. I actually like Sean Carrol and his content but I think he definitely has that kind of mean-spiritedness about him. I liked her video defending Eric Weinstein while she's like "yeah, he's full of shit, but so are you Sean, and you're a dick about it."
>>2687297>The science community and especially the physics communityI mean, that's the only beef I'm aware of with her too.
>>2687293>to attack science and academiaI don't know how one could get that at all. She's like the premier science youtuber and she covers all kinds of science news. I don't know who is doing more for science and academia. Like all the other big youtubers either do more educational documentary Science channel type stuff like Veritasium, Steve Mould etc., or they cover news only in one field like Astrum. I can't really even think of who else is a general science news youtuber.
Bruh look, this is the google results. Sabine and Astrum.
>>2685267I'll take doug lain over whatever leftoid slop that's out there these days. He leans into a contrarian niche of his own, but thanks to his guests, listening to his podcast thing usually ends up leaving you more informed which is pretty rare.
>>2687214>glowenfelderno thanks
>>2687261people stuck in the 2010s ateism movement or god believers
>>2687344true,it's in the OP of this very thread : ISG
Ictually
Sxisting
Graxis
>>2687299That's horrifying. Do people really not know what Sabine is up to? Look at her association with, for example, Eric Weinstein. The way she presents science and academia as a cult in need of "outside ideas" is exactly the grift I'm talking about. It's the same vector of attack that we have seen reproduced in medicine (anti-vax), climate change (denialism), genetics (eugenics), and comprehensively against transgenderism. Weinsteins literally LLM generated theory of everything has no value, and is not equal to the output of working theoretical physics.
The responses in this thread defending her are honestly shocking to me. And frightening, given how severely she works to undermine science from a position of anti-intellectualism and populism. It's literally anti-vax applied to Physics. If her grift catches on as she intends it to, it will wreck US physics in the same way anti-vax saw the NIH get annihilated.
>>2686631>the LTV is actually a marginalist theory of value.i would disagree that marx's theory is directly comparable to marginal utility theory, since it separates value from utility, rather than seeing value as an extended function of utility. the disagreement begins where marx sees value as abstracted away from utility in the act of exchange, while wicksteed (1884) properly says that if the only labour which can count as value must be useful, then exchange cannot abstract away from utility, but it rather expresses utility, abstractly (in the marginal sense). here's his rebuke:
https://www.marxists.org/history/international/social-democracy/today/1884/10/wicksteed-capital.htm what does "jestergoon" mean?
>>2687429I didn't say it's a marginal utility theory. it is a marginal theory, but it is the amount of
labor at the margin that is relevant, not some wishy-washy "utility". value is the partial derivative of labor with respect to the quantity of the production method for the least productive MoP in use
>>2687483relative surplus value, superprofit and ground rent are all marginal effects. there is no such thing as an "average" amount of labor going into some commodity. the notion that there is is just a simplification that Marx uses in parts of vol I. for the same reason you cannot arrive at values by just "adding up" labor added at each stage in production as some leftcoms seem to think (the GIC people among others). total labor added does
not equal total value added, even at equilibrium. this all becomes apparent when you start looking into the problem of joint production
>>2685267>Defending Chomsky and Epstein associationsThat's fine, but instead of whining… Just tell us:
How much friendship, what level of association with Jeffrey Epstein and the courtiers of hegemonic capitalism is acceptable for a socialist to have, in your own judgement? Where exactly
is it that someone such principled as you, draws the line.'
Specifics please, Mr.Intellectual.
I think that one of woke's biggest strengths is that it seems like it can tank a lot of the big hits chuds give to it, even when it makes some flops like concord or dustburn while chud flops like the shitty kid rock show did a lot of damage to their reputation.
>>2687616I think that one of woke's biggest strengths is that their opponents being fat ugly retards who makes vids sperguing out about titties in vydia and transhumanist turn people away from being "anti-woke" or make then become "both sides le bad" types.
>>2685435Clav will start prison bitch maxxing and lowering his cortisol by being protected by big black bubbas
>>2687677The most (yous) I consistently collect is when I just point out that the right is pretty conformist from a top-down colllective. If asmongold, trump or whatever say something then they tend to parrot it while I tend to see more leftoid ecelebs as people who parrot what the the viewer wants to hear about mostly.
>>2687551>I didn't say it's a marginal utility theory. it is a marginal theory, but it is the amount of labor at the margin that is relevant, not some wishy-washy "utility".does labour lack utility?
>total labor added does not equal total value addedwhats the difference?
>>2687722Another thing is that a lot of the right's culture fire power comes from them making soyjaks of their enemies but just saying "No u are ugly 2" is enough to make them shit themselves and whine.
The thing is the left doesn't even have to prove we are good looking or anything because I don't think we even care that much about that sort of shit but the right does and yet they still look like shit. That is what pisses me off about them.
>>2687389We need to pass laws to lock up
anti-vaxxers anti-LHCers.
>>2684324The leadership of this org platform convicted pedos, platform suspected pedos, say pedo shit under the cover of religiosity, and were accused of trafficking a transgender minor to O9A.
>>2687389>That's horrifying.Your drama levels are off the charts dude.
>Do people really not know what Sabine is up to? Look at her association with, for example, Eric Weinstein.Do you? She said his theories are unproven doo doo, but the same is true for everyone else's 10000 pet theories in that field.
>The way she presents science and academia as a cult in need of "outside ideas" is exactly the grift I'm talking about.That's not what she says. Anon, I think you just make up things in your mind to get mad at.
>It's the same vector of attack that we have seen reproduced in medicine (anti-vax), climate change (denialism), genetics (eugenics), and comprehensively against transgenderism. She doesn't promote anti-vax stuf or climate change denial, in fact she does the opposite.
>Weinsteins literally LLM generated theory of everything has no value, and is not equal to the output of working theoretical physics. The whole field is like that. They have 1000s of contradicting theories that can't all be right. Many Worlds and all that is at the same level of seriousness.
<The responses in this thread defending her are honestly shocking to me. And frightening,<Truly aghast, mortifying, dread-inducing. Who the fuck thinks "I have serious mental issues…And that's your fault!" Is a serious line of argument. Like just keep that to yourself dude and maybe ask your doctor to put you on stronger meds.
>It's literally anti-vax applied to Physics. If her grift catches on as she intends it to, it will wreck US physics in the same way anti-vax saw the NIH get annihilated.It's too late.
https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=13325< I think if you were a betting man, you would bet that LHC will be the last great particle accelerator, and the whole field will dissipate after the LHC is over.Total Sabine victory.
>>2687756i am fuck at embed what is wrong with me
>>2685435non-stop ass rape
>>2687756Yeah I've seen that vid before and I just watched it again because I don't remember anything because none of it was particularly interesting.
Sections:
>CapitalismShe goes on for awhile saying that the invention of capitalism is what enabled technological progress. That's also the Marx's position.
>Mentions Marx>Capitalism got a bad rep when Marx claimed it was about just grabbing hold of the means of production and exploiting the working classI don't even know what she's saying lol. It seems like she was mixing "seize the means of production" with the second part. Lol the capitalists are the ones that have the means of production.
>Of course there was an element of truth to his fears because some things went badly wrong during the industrial revolution>but that's another storyLol someone should bug her to make a communism video so maybe she'd learn something.
The rest of the video she just goes on about some bog-standard lib stuff about how we need to reform capitalism and have good rules and protections and whatever. She really mostly just skates around what the difference of capitalism vs. something else like communism.
This discussion made me curious about what Sean Carroll's position is. Found this interview he did with this economics professor.
Mindscape 84 | Suresh Naidu on Capitalism, Monopsony, and Inequality
>Nations generally want their economies to be rich, robust, and growing. But it’s also important to person to ensure that wealth doesn’t flow only to a few people, but rather that as many people as possible can enjoy the benefits of a healthy economy. As is well known, the best way to balance these interests is a contentious subject. On one side we might find free-market fundamentalists who want to let supply and demand set prices and keep government interference to a minimum, while on the other we might find enthusiasts for very strong government control over all aspects of the economy. Suresh Naidu is an economist who has delved deeply into how economic performance affects and is affected by other notable social factors, from democracy to revolution to slavery. We talk about these, as well as how concentrations of economic power in just a few hands — monopoly and its cousin, monopsony — can distort the best intentions of the free market.
>Suresh Naidu received his Ph.D. in economics from the University of California, Berkeley. He is currently professor of economics and international affairs at Columbia University as well as a fellow at Roosevelt Institute, external faculty at the Santa Fe Institute, and a research fellow at National Bureau of Economic Research. His awards include a Sloan Research Fellowship and the “Best Ph.D. Advisor Award” from the Columbia Association of Graduate Economics Students.
It's an hour and a half so I'll get back to you after I watch it.
>>2687776I just read this article by the guy:
https://jacobin.com/2014/04/what-marx-really-meantWhat Marx Really Meant>Treating Marx’s original manuscripts like scripture does them a great disservice.
>Since Brad Delong has attributed some thoughts on Marx to me, I thought it would be useful to publicly air what I understand to be the context. Brad DeLong has been a mentor and advisor for ten years now, and is one of the very few economists broad and open enough to know anything about what Marx wrote. I have met very few other people in mainstream economics departments who cared enough to read Marx, let alone enough to assign the Communist Manifesto and Wage Labor and Capital in a mandatory first-year economics PhD course. (Even I don’t do that.)
>The context of the long-running conversation has been trying to establish a dialogue between Marx and modern growth theory. Inside the modern production function, there is a pretty undifferentiated view of “K” (which leads it into some troubles as bad as any in the labor theory of value). Marx on the other hand distinguishes (at least) machines, technology, and money-qua-productive-input as different from each other conceptually.
>The fact that these are rolled into an aggregate production function by mainstream growth theory is not Marx’s fault. And so when somebody is trying to translate Marx into modern economics, the slippage between “what is ‘K?’” and “what Marx meant” can get confusing. I am still thinking about these issues, and won’t pretend to have figured it all out, but let me lay out some preliminary thoughts.
>Brad is correct in one sense. I believed and still believe that Marx’s view of capitalist technological change is labor-saving. There is no way to read the chapters on machines and modern manufacturing without thinking that Marx was pretty convinced that technologically advanced machinery would displace labor and lower wages:
< But we have already seen that, with every advance in the use of machinery, the constant component of capital, that part which consists of machinery, raw material, etc., increases, while the variable component, the part laid out in labour-power, decreases.
>On the flip side, the increased use of machines can increase the demand for labor. More factories means more labor demand, even if those factories are 90 percent robot. So the relationship of capital and labor is both of these things: the net substitutability of labor by capital, holding output constant, and the gross complementarity of capital and labor while output changes.
< We also know that in no other system of production is improvement so continuous, and the composition of the capital employed so constantly changing as in the factory system. These changes are, however, continually interrupted by periods of rest, during which there is a mere quantitative extension of the factories on the existing technical basis. During such periods the operatives increase in number.
>In terms of wages, I think Marx can be read as saying that medium-run wages are pinned down by institutions, norms, and the reserve army of labor. Long-run wages could be determined by political conflict and changing economic institutions, and short-run wages could be determined by the business cycle and labor-saving technological change. This is a pretty rich theory of wage-setting, and I think focusing on the technological change dimension of it is missing a lot of the full Marx story.
>When “capital” is understood as money and financial services enlisted in circuits of production (the M-C-M increments) or the quantity of investment, I think you can find passages where Marx thinks of them as complements to labor (i.e. they increase labor demand, even if marginal products don’t exist and wages are institutionally set). For example, here is a passage where (a young) Marx talks about capital and labor as complements, and perhaps even thinks of wages at marginal products:
< To say that “the worker has an interest in the rapid growth of capital”, means only this: that the more speedily the worker augments the wealth of the capitalist, the larger will be the crumbs which fall to him, the greater will be the number of workers than can be called into existence, the more can the mass of slaves dependent upon capital be increased.
>In fact, rhetoric aside, this passage is completely consistent with, say, vintage optimal tax theory, which says that the best way to increase workers’ wages in the long run is to not tax capital ever. And I think it is illuminating about the manifold criticisms Marx makes of capitalism. Perhaps Marx thought that even if workers’ standard of living increased under capitalism, it would not undo the exploitative/unfree/undemocratic institutions inherent in the labor market.
>Maybe some of those criticisms are empirically wrong or don’t resonate with contemporary ethical intuitions. In any case, it is not just any particular analysis of inequality and business cycles, but instead the unrelentingly political and conflict-ridden view of the economy that is what is precious to me in Marx.
>But all this said, I think Brad wrote a good column, even if the question of “Was Marx Right?” is fundamentally silly. The larger point is that Marx’s fertile mind generated many ideas, distributed over a lifetime of thinking and writing exactly as capitalism was transforming itself and the world.
>The theological endeavor to discern and police “what Marx really meant” is the worst kind of intellectual program. Marx, like Smith and Ricardo and Keynes, is a place to draw on for inspiration and hypotheses, not the last word on anything. So, at the end of the day, I don’t really care if “Marx was right”, and I certainly don’t begrudge others the right to find support for a variety of arguments on marxists.org. The howls of outrage from the online guardians of the One True Marx in response to the New York Times panel were more irksome than anything written by the panelists.
>Marxist economics is much larger than Marx, and textual exegesis of the original manuscripts, as opposed to reinventing and redeploying the concepts in new historical and intellectual environments, does it a great disservice. Brad is right to look to Capital for inspiration to understand our possible robot future, even if Marxists don’t like it. To paraphrase Joan Robinson, the critics have Marx on their screens, not in their bones. Unique IPs: 239