>>2690048>The whole uyghur genocide narrative is disingenuous on its face. Ask any Chinese person and they will be quick to point out that Americans don't care for Chinese people or Muslims but by some strange alchemy are very concerned with Chinese Muslims. That is to say it's not a cause of the animosity, just a post-hoc excuse for it.You're not wrong. I guess I should have elaborated on that, because while they do believe in uighur genocide, they don't care about it for its own sake. More like, as liberals China represents an existential problem for them and the uighur issue serves as a useful moralist "apolitical" justification for their animosity. That is to say, they don't have to personally examine or rationally justify their behavior because of the assumptions baked into it.
>>2690860if you have to "believe" in materialism, then its a structure of ideas, not an apparent reflection of reality.
>>2690882he has a point tbf
>>2690874Materialism is a structure of ideas and if you think it is anything but then you are philosophically naïve.
>>2690806Ishowspeed (D) vs MrBeast(R) is inevitable
>>2690896Idealism is to have a conception of reality where there is a unidirectional relationship between consciousness and its perceived environment, whereby consciousness takes the supreme role, i.e. consciousness produces the world and determines how the world unfolds. Dialectical materialism posits that there is a mutually influencing, bidirectional relationship between mind and its environment, with both operating materially. The human brain necessarily makes sense of the world with structured ideas that it regularly updates by resolving contradictions which are a stressful and unstable state for the brain when aware. So making sense of the world with structured ideas isn’t itself the problem here.
>>2690814I didn't understand half the words there.
So he's some 20 year freak that pumps his body full of hormones and cosmetic surgery?
>>2690874Some reatrds think the earth is flat, but it's not.
You my friend are a retard.
>>2690949How is that different from tr*nshum*nists?
>>2690874>then its a structure of ideasyeah that doesnt mean materialism is idealism, it means it is a theory
>>2690874You're confusing the map for the territory and declaring real world geography doesn't exist because people use maps to explain it.
>>2690951There is no difference except he's a man trying to be more of an ideal man instead of an ideal woman. If he was leftist all the insults for his looks would disappear from the left and rightists would be talking how bogged and fake he looks instead.
>>2690969It just shows the absurdities of these culture wars that we now know we're spun by Epstein and his zio bourgeois buddies.
Either way the bourgeoisie that runs the medical industrial complex here wins.
In addition these idealists that strive for the platonic form of a gender are a walking contradiction which I worry how about it will be resolved.
I will never be happy until every traitorous right wing reactionary latin american has been sodomized and thrown into a volcano
>>2691021You are not even starting to comprehend the extent of the inter-pedophile solidarity and the lengths those people will go defending each other, even if they aren't even personal friends.
>>2690378Why does being technology stop LLMs from being intelligent? Seems like you have an idealist understanding of intelligence where it is based on something inexplicable and immaterial.
>>2690054He doesn't support AES nations.
>>2690806you can go to iran with a us passport it's just harder to get the visa and you can only go with a tour guide
>>2691065do you know what llms are and how they work
>>2691143He's been recruited into the theil matrix. I can't keep up with who's who in the world of chinlets anymore, but none of this is organic.
>>2691143possibbly hooked into the theil network, also i saw a tweet that said clav and adam are managed by the same agency
everything you see on the internet is fake.
its a big club and you aint in it
"goyslop" and "russian saboteur slave" is acceptable lingo on anti-imperialist/third-worldist twitter now lol. Apparently leftwing anti-semitism does exist (in an isolated corner of the internet). Meanwhile most actual neo-nazis are desperately trying to explain how it's actually good that the president was best friends with a jewish pedophile Mossad asset. What a bizarre world.
>>2691172>russian saboteur slavek * ike slave
goddamn word filters >>2691172Because people finally figured out that its not 1920. Jews, even ignoring those in Israel, are in fact on average quite reactionary and have been for a long time. If you're gonna say "angloid" there's no reason to get in arms about jews.
>>2691065Are you just saying "idealist" because it sounds good or something? It's explained what is meant. LLMs are a technology that, like all technologies before them, mediate relationships between humans. This isn't idealism. It's actually clarifying that the material relation does not vanish when a machine becomes capable of producing a good (in this case, software, or specific kinds of knowledge based labor).
I actually think your description of this as idealism is almost backwards.
The goal of assigning "intelligence" to LLMs that equates them to humans to mystify relationships and confuse material reality with consciousness in the most idealistic way possible, by assigning material products TO consciousness itself. It's like ur-idealism.
We can all be sure that our tech billionaires will NOT be giving up their billions when LLMs rule the world. Why not? Because they know that dominating and controlling LLMs is how they dominate and control societies, their real ultimate goal.
>>2691172can you post some examples? that has not been my experience
>>2691204You're going at it backwards, you're saying the AI can't be intelligent because it is technology, and because it is technology it can't be intelligent and its idealist to say so. But none of this is addressing reality. It doesn't matter if AI is 'technology' (a vague and undefined category), what matters is if AI is actually intelligent. You're letting your ideology dictate your understanding of reality, which is idealism.
>>2691226I think you should ask the “intelligent” machine of your choice to explain your confusion here. Because you are conflating of production of goods with consciousness and claiming that otherwise is to deny reality. Nobody is denying that machines can replace forms of human labor. That’s materialism, not idealism. Please learn what the terms you are using mean and address the conclusion of the post you are replying to.
>>2691235I actually don't understand what you mean, I don't understand your logic at all.
>>2691237It’s a machine that produces goods and preforms service. What’s hard to understand about that? That’s not new, this describes most machines. It’s owned and controlled at economic scales by a specific class of people, and they collect its profit. They won’t give up their profit or this control. Why not? They have “intelligences,” and things like “consciousness” are just minor quibbles in the margins of philosophy, irrelevant (or even “idealist”) I’m told. So why do you think they care about maintaining a system of domination and inequality between them and other human beings? Is it that they are maybe not actually “intelligent,” but are infact machines that produce goods and perform services? “Skeptics” are not denying reality, but infact, seeing through the mystification of what is happening and understanding things materially.
>>2691261Inevitable consequence of the Epstein files is tinfoil accelerationism
>>2691052it's sad. he first tries to engage in meaningful journalism, then runs to do this. he did the same during the george floyd protests/riots, calling it a horde of uneducated, unproductive, stupid hooligans.
>>2691443Is he really a rightoid? He just looks like an anime review channel to me.
>>2691443btw - if you're a man, never do this.
No one cares. No one will genuinely sympathize with your and you're just opening yourself up to ridicule. For instance, if you find yourself at absolute rock bottom, homeless on the street huddled against an alley wall with your dog, people passing by will say "oh that poor dog." That's just how it is. Harden up and grow a stiff upper lip.
>>2691459Fuck off I will trauma dump whenever I want and if you don't want to see it and want me to stop complaining I don't care I'm a man and I'll fucking kill you.
The problem with the world is everyone bragging about how much they've been raped by life, as if that's an objectively good thing and not a sign that society should be demolished to make way for a better one.
Stiff upper lip = yes daddy please rape me harder I'm a good boy I won't complain. Hence why the British cucks vote 90% of the time for Conservatives and then act confused as to why their society has turned into an absolute shithole. Slavery = death. Murder those who tolerate evildoing and we will have a much better world. Kill everyone in the Epstein list. Abolish capitalism.
>>2691172There has definitely been a vibe shift. The generation growing up has no connection to the Holocaust anymore, it's as distant to them as, say, World War I so you'll see a lot more people taking their gloves off with regards to the reactionary elements in Judaism.
Just check out BadEmpanada's new video - most liberals would probably consider this anti-semitism.
>>2691443>almost drank himself to death.I don't get how that is physically possible. I get blackout drunk all the time, I was just blackout drunk posting on /leftypol/ last night. How can you keep drinking past the point you're gonna die?
>>2691459>Harden up and grow a stiff upper lip.No idea what that would mean in most situations. Hurting others works wonders to build up self-esteem, though. As you say, nobody cares. Go find yourself some cars to key. Pick a bus and go to far away dog park with a bunch of peanut butter poison balls.
Or whatever is your speed.
Just realize that the atomization works both ways. The world is your oyster as long as you are not perceived as a threat in a systemic manner.
I'm barely on my phone anymore, I don't really use social media or anything, and the main thing I notice when I'm in a group is how often I sit around with nothing to do while everyone else is on their phones. Then when everyone gets off their phones there's the increasingly long awkward silences, the reticence to start or continue conversations, the unspoken social contract that talking about anything "real" like politics is exhausting, the implicit understanding that sincerity is uncouth and irony is king. I'm lucky I even have a group of IRL friends, depressing as that is to say. You could do everything right, successfully get off your phone and the internet forever, live a completely tech-free life, and the "real world" would still feel incomplete and hollow. So it isn't just the phone, not anymore–it's everything. The entire world is organized around funneling us into this machine. Why? If I were to put a term to what the phone does to a person, I'd say it's "soul-draining," and I have half a mind to call it "demonic possession" but people obviously look at you funny when you say that (even if we're all in agreement that tech billionaires are basically demons). Your soul, your consciousness, is the thing that's being silenced when you tap in to the noise; when your soul is quiet, it turns out you're more likely to accept wage slavery and authoritarianism and anti-intellectualism and bigotry and all that fun stuff. In my experience, the more I actively put down the phone and say "I'm going to simply exist in my own discomfort for a while" the easier it becomes to understand the shape of that discomfort and combat it, usually by making art. The amazing thing is that we live in an era of unprecedented access to actual, real knowledge and art from the entirety of human existence. I'm not saying there's never been a better time to be an artist or a philosopher, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a more critical or important time.
>>2691692It's the withdrawal that kills you. Alcohol and benzos withdrawal are the only two withdrawals that can kill you directly. People drink two bottles of booze for weeks every day, then suddenly stop drinking for various reason and die.
Not to glaze the guy but has hakim ever been wrong about anything
>>2691692Taking shots of pure spirits >40% in quick succession on an empty stomach
>>2691443why would someone with tons of haters publicly reveal such information lol
>>2691676this is the type of shit you'd see, if you got lost on one of those warhammer hive worlds
>>2691676this what uyghas are consuming on reels? im going to roll up again
>>2691884The USSR didn't even collapse it was dissolved by successors in the same party as the founders.
>>2691718>No idea what that would mean in most situations.Stop being sensitive. Harden up.
>Hurting others works wonders to build up self-esteem, though.1) I have no idea how that would help self-esteem.
2) You shouldn't hurt others who haven't hurt you.
3) There is no one here who said you should have self-esteem. I you feel that you don't have any self-esteem, this is good because you are just being honest with yourself (doubly true if you are the sort of person who gains self-esteem by hurting others). You should embrace humility as a virtue and the truth of your many faults, rather than trying to carve out your own little piece of disgusting narcissism and egotism.
>>2691985Take notes, boys
>>2692010It works because it fully leans into the uncanny element of AI generated images.
>>2692010>bred virtual phantoms>bredAh yes, here is someone who is profoundly mentally stable
>>2692025It's not that off thought. AI models train from similar data and, sometimes, each other's outputs. iirc that's how Deepseek's early models were built.The human inheritance implied in the grotesquerie is also there in the "LLM"isms, how Google's AI suggestions were built off redditor answers and often outrageously, but confidently wrong. Or the yesman role that bots like Grok have grown to have and how Elon keeps "lobotomizing" the model or hardcoding his own answers for the thing to echo.
Also,like pets, we tend to shape AI models for our own purpose into lines of models with particular biases, skills and so on, much like domesticated breeds.
Wha ever happened to Rapeoid Ethan and the Raider of Ramallah?
>>2692036This is entirely projection, the word is deployed as nothing more than an empty signifier for effect with no actual thought behind it.
It implies in its abstract unity the counterposing of that which it fails to negate - an expression of social individuality - against a common sociality, which it cannot provide recognition for except on those same terms of its grotesque hyper-stylization.
In fact the usage of the term 'bred' contains that embryo (oh, but we are all wordsmiths now) of the unconscious drivers of human language by which conscious thought is manipulated.
Oh, but is this a materialist explanation of that absolute garbage? Are we done rationalizing the infantile delusions of would be content producers in their abysmal profiteering on the mass-produced intellects of consumers?
Oh but good heavens, we're Marxists.
>>2692077by which conscious thought is manipulated in its aestheticization through the mediation of consumption*
thiel matrix status?
>>2692010epstein kirk shitposts are way better than that
>>2691767So true. Jews are actually still walking around in striped jumpsuits.
>>2691680One effect of the cynical weaponization of anti-semitism accusations is that now in
some leftist circles you can't acknowledge the existance of anti-semitism at all without suspicion that you're a secret zionist. Like in the "third-worldist" circles on twitter (quotes because it's not 100% accurate description but most will know what I'm referring to) you can't offer any critiques of the "ZOG" theory at all without being accused of "centering jewish feelings" etc. etc. Call me crazy but overt neo-nazism is more mainstream on the internet than in a long time and like any ethnically based chauvinism it's bad.
>>2692128Oh boo hoo, I don't care about "anti-white racism" in general
>>2692134>AI contains within it the potential for an enormous advance of the productive force in every area of economic activity, possibly the greatest in human history.Wrong! This writer doesn't know wtf he's talking about!!!!
>>2691884>Communists suffered setbacks to capitalism>This means capitalism is OKDaily reminder that it took feudalism 300 years to die
>>2691884>theirYou are team bourgeois
>>2692134>It will be enormously strengthened ideologically and politically in that struggle because all the objections advanced by the bourgeoisie and its defenders about the “impossibility” of socialism—conscious planning of the economy cannot be undertaken, there is insufficiency of material resources to ensure genuine social equality, it is impossible to liberate human beings from degrading labour, the capitalist system is so complex that nothing other than a system based on the blind destructive force of the market is possible and so on—have been “blown sky high” by the advent of AI.AI was not necessary to blow the "impossibilities" pushed by the bourgeoisie "sky high". Long before the innovation of AI, machine learning, LLMs whatever you want to call it, sophisticated linear programming algorithms existed that made possible the efficient distribution of resources among human populations. This article was written by someone who doesn't have a rudimentary knowledge of the history of technology, doesn't understand what AI as a broader category of technologies is, what place LLMs have in that category, what LLMs actually do, and what exactly are the forces that have been holding back human societies from transcending the capitalist mode of production.
>>2692160Scoot them an email, sure they'll be happy to hear
>>2692182I don't think that guy is a leftcom or a trot
>>2692182>MLoid glazing pedo Russian diplomat to own le leftcomsYour brain on campism.
>>2692182I mean, I just assume all the rich and powerful, who are already above any law or custom in their societies, already do this kind of stuff in private. These people can already buy or do anything.
IMO the allure of Epstein's blackmail OP, for them already rich and powerful, was in being "in the club", sharing the incriminating knowledge, with the implicit trust that convenes. And the theater of power, LARPing as a secret society who rules the world. Giving them another hierarchy to be the top of among the attendants.
>>2692213>pedo Russian diplomat It's fine to point out he's capitalist so lefties shouldn't support him. But that's no reason to support NAFO's distraction propaganda. The western ruling class has been caught with their pants down, so why are you trying to divert attention to Russia with made up shit?
>>2692213>>2692220>everyone's secretly a pedo satanist, it's totally normal, I have no proofs btw, hail hitlerNew "china is capitalist" just dropped
>>2692226Ideas are downstream from class interest, westoid labor adistocrats will defend their pedo benefactors even if one personally comes over and rapes their children.
It's an almost unconscious, pavlovian reflex.
Whataboutism
Clavicular went on Adam Friedland and is about to go on RedScare.
>>2692227It's your Putinoid boy accusing everyone of being pedo satanists.
China IS capitalist btw.
>>2692236>accusingWe're long past mere accusations, you been living under a rock?
>>2692236>everyonelavrov said western elites doebeit
you are just malding because campists got vindicated
>>2692239nta but the people have gone from suspecting their rules to be depraved monsters in their personal capacity… to all but confirming it. And it changes nothing. Lavrov is just cynically playing his side of the culture war the anglos insist on internationalizing.
Neither him not the based "anti-pedo" concervatards at home, are gonna do shit about it though.
>>2692077>people use signifiersyes
>>2692260My bad dude I forgot we breed LLMs
>>2692271The most sane explanation for this room is that being a licensed dentist practice allows you to get your hands on all kinds of drugs but you never know.
>>2692300We should just have regular humans do it and save ourselves a datacenter sucking up more environmental resources but we wont because we live in capitalist hellworld run by techno-vampires.
>>2692303Do AI voices require datacenters?
>>2692271I saw someone post a video with a naked woman fully blurred out with a guy using a magnifying glass to burn their skin, and had a caption something like "Heinous epstein crimes" in red when it was clearly just some porno they dug up.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/jeffrey-epstein-burning-girl-magnifying-glass-myth-debunk-8d2c71This article is being a bit generous claiming he looked like epstein, not really.
>>2692309Yes, AI voices generally require data centers, particularly for the initial training of the models, which demands massive computing power, specialized hardware (GPUs), and high energy consumption. While "inference" (generating the voice in real-time) can sometimes happen on user devices (edge computing), the foundational training and high-quality cloud-based voice services still rely heavily on centralized infrastructure.
>>2692316Yeah, but these are voice models that already exist.
>>2692318Cloud based models still use datacenters which currently sound better than on local devices, which you can bet than any company selling an AI produced audiobook will use.
>>2692303So instead of devolving a cheaper AI text to speech program that can quickly turn any book into an ok sounding audiobook you would rather we hire tens of thousands of actors to record hundreds of thousands of hours of lines all to supposedly save resources?
>>2691680>There has definitely been a vibe shift. The generation growing up has no connection to the Holocaust anymore, it's as distant to them as, say, World War I so you'll see a lot more people taking their gloves off with regards to the reactionary elements in Judaism.It's only been 75 years since the gas chambers*
never mind what equally horrible tragedies have been going on in the world since then and currently So no, a billboard calling out anti-semitism isn't an over reaction.
*Which happened in a completely different country other than this one where no pogrom ever happened against Jews ever and Jews can hardly make any kind of claim for being the worst treated minority.On another note, very interesting that they chose to use the anti-semitism spelling, here I was thinking I was being edgy and subversive writing it that way because even the spellcheck will tell you it's supposed to be a compound word.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AntisemitismI thought it was funny how they get their own compound word when being anti any other group always gets a hyphen.
>>2692329Thinking more, it's probably just the literary thing because they couldn't fit anti-semitism on one line in that format. Ok yeah that's it. Looks like they also substitute "Jew-hate" in some of the versions as well. Wikipedia also uses that as a synonymous term. Very strange sounding as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>Antisemitism[a] or Jew-hatredCompare to Chinese:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment>Anti-Chinese sentiment or sinophobiaAlso funny how the Jews never get the phobia phrasing.
>>2692326>>2692326I think it doesn’t matter much what I think. Silicon Valley capitalists are going to destroy the environment regardless because “muh profit motive 2stronk bruh”
>>2692332Apparently the term antisemitism comes from the German compound word antisemitismus that was then translated into English directly. More modern terms in English use the hyphen instead of making them compound.
>>2692319Well, I wasn't really talking about audiobooks produced by a company that you have to pay for. I'm not for paying money for an AI voice audiobook.
I meant free audiobooks that could be put on libravox, presumably of public domain works.
>>2692402Don't bother, leftypol analysis in 2026 is all about good and bad national/ethnic/religious groups. Jews, both kurds and turks (funnily enough) and eastern europeans are the main bad ones. Sunni arabs included in the case of Syria. It's nationalist spooks all the way down.
>>2692303Raising a californian voice actor is more environmentally damaging than building a datacenter
>>2692339Wasn't there a Trotskyist party that had representatives in their legislature?
>>2692402If you don't understand jewish power you truly don't understand politics. The antisemites are ahead of the curve on this.
>>2692447Data centers require Silicon Valley fart sniffers which I would argue are worse as a whole.
>>2692458Everyone is terrible. But you're probably right.
>>2692469If my grandparents were so hot shit then why are they all dead now? Explain that.
>>2692128>One effect of the cynical weaponization of anti-semitism accusations … you can't offer any critiques of the "ZOG" theory at all without being accused of "centering jewish feelings" etc. etc.Yeah. Also if you go on r/Judaism (yeah I know, but reflective of real people) there are Jews talking about experiencing antisemitism but it tends to revolve around subjective feels, which is all anyone talks about nowadays. A lot of "Jews feel unsafe" stuff. I really don't think they should think like that (because nobody gives a damn) but whatevs.
>Call me crazy but overt neo-nazism is more mainstream on the internet than in a long time and like any ethnically based chauvinism it's bad.That is true, but it's also just retarded. It's a primitive vulgar conservative phenomenon that is more emotional than rational and is also a pseud disease, bound up crackpot thinking as a wider irrational phenomenon.
>>2692497i cant stop thinking of richard Spencer. he wanted a sophisticated intellectual radical right that read evola, spengler, and embraced science.
realising in 2015 that what he had was filled with cranks, kooks, nut jobs, and losers, and it made him very very angry so he had a meltdown where he ranted and raved like h was a plantation owner calling them little 'russian saboteurs' and 'octoroons' which is such a obscure radical term i never heard it used in real life before.
South Koreans are beefing with South East Asians on X over looks
much more fun than muh tankies vs muh annarkiddies
>>2692448that would be the islamists, yes
>>2691443Wasn't he just moments before cheering on ICE raids?
>>2692339Bad news. Bangladesh is basically one of the few countries left that still had a massive industrial working base (a.k.a proles). The fact that the Left doesn't even have a presence there is rough, and is bad news for all the old left guys who thinks that we can replicate the heyday of the Left by forcing people back to the assembly line
>>2691888the modern neoliberal subject is mentally ill and is in constant need for thymos. This is why they keep getting into weird online spectacles, weird sexual identities, and weir political identities that they
will force you to know against your own will
>>2691457i think he's a rightard but either way he was into lolis and shit so he can die
>>2692555>Ick politics in the big 26Idk why i expect better from ISG of all places
>>2692239Everyone is a campist. Because there's two classes, there's two camps.
Those who call others "campists" either don't know which camp they're in, or don't know that they belong to a camp (class) at all
>>2692537Total wodigger death
>>2692573its not an ick to dislike pedos
>>2692612No, its just Ick culture against an online fetish you don't like. You're not battling Epstein whenever you do this shit dumbass
>>2692620Loli-consumers are not just ick. They need to be hunted and executed.
>>2692271He had a dentist girlfriend, who he specifically helped get her dentistry education. It's more likely they were altering teeth to avoid identification by dental record or something when they disposed of bodies.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/columbia-university-epstein-girlfriend-dentist-rt7ph5fp7 >>2692623Including adult words like hunting or killing doesn't make your particular Ick any less unserious than i already is. I view this the same way i view poltards who constanly type brutal rape fantasies against people with coloured hair
>>2692664little girls are pedophiles??
>>2692272Well no, the sanest explanation is that Epstein was a rich guy who 100% would have a physician and an equipped medical bay on his remote island in case of a medical emergency, though I don't know how acute the need would be for dentistry but if you'ew omega rich you can afford it so why not have it in case
>>2692537all nazis are turbo degenerates
>>2693416I don't even think it is gay really
>>2693415>There is something deeply effeminate about this neo-masculinity that zoomers are going through.i think it seems to me like a return to metrosexual men, like let's not pretend millenials didnt do it also
>>2693089Standard PR speak.
Regardless of the why's and how's, /pol/ has been an influence and psyop hub. And an occasional barrel of socially repugnant fish for the feds to shoot. That hasn't retroactively changed.
Like, Chomky's career hasn't changed because the feds decided to show us that he *also* was a hypocrite on top of controlled opposition.
>>2693422It’s homoerotic without crossing the line into open homosexuality, they love playing gay chicken, getting right up to the line without ever crossing it. They love sublimating desire, not eliminating it as their propaganda suggests.
>>2693415>There is something deeply effeminateYeah, it's gonna be the script by which gay dudes became liberated by consumerism, minus the aids cull and genderspecials.
The "ideal" male to aspire to, is to be
faggy "bi" twunks who consume like women but don't fundamentally upset the war of the sexes culture war. Which drives the masculinity mainstream to be wagies, soldiers/cops and slave morality losers in general.
>>2693479I've tried tor and front ends. THey probably don't want this to be by-passable without some kind of data flowing to them, even if it's bunk like age verification usually is. The EU is about to mandate age restrictions iirc, which will funnel large amounts of personally identifying information to all the social platforms. They should naturally want that.
>>2693415looksmaxxers covet form over function, its not masculine at all. to be worried about how you look to others is deeply feminine
>>2693470>The "ideal" male to aspire to, is to be faggy "bi" twunksBased. Nature is healing
>>2693375>ZizekACP has fallen
>>2692780those hippies were destroyed by baudrillard anyways
>>2692836>DREW PERFORMANCE ART UPDATE>Billie Eilish got me deported from the US>I don't actually plan to personally move into her mansionwut.
What's up with Greek Aussies? Pavlou, BE, YPG flag poster. Must be be grown in some ASIS labratory.
>>2693544Greece was a poor part of Europe and exported it's people to richer colonial settler nations.
>>2693375>marxism needs a Nazi, a decrepit old “4th way” reactionary, and a NATO supporting coke headHuman embodiment of cringe
>>2693544lol. 10/10 if true.
>>2692038They continue to make videos and their fans come here to bitch about Hasan.
>>2693795BE is right once again
>>2693795No. Retards just can’t comprehend the concept of disproving your oppositions argument while “accepting the claim as given”.
But BE is wrong in the definition of “multipolarity” being equivalent to anti-imperialist solidarity, but so are many of his opponents. A multipolar world would just mean a chance for trade etc without being sanctioned by Le West.
>>2693795Didn't know BE was this based.
>>2693821oh no not russia
>>2693795He's just a run of the mill western maoists as are 90% of "communists" in the west. And as 90% of "communists" in the west, he doesn't dven know he's a maoist.
>>2693809Liberal babble.
China is one of the only countries in the world that *doesn't* let people under its control starve. And they do it precisely through centralized econic calculation (socialism).
The idea that china has the ability to do central planning but starves people deliberately, while western countries starve people "accidentally" due to capitalism and otherwise wouldn't have, is tantamount to saying the chinese are le evil.
But if you want to accept his premise then sure, since he likes to larp as a third worldist, isn't it *good* that china would starve evil westoud kkkrakkkas like himself? He and the people he's addressing are the enemies of the world proletariat.
>>2693828why are you citing the PRCs successes within its own borders? that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Grok, fucking kill yourself
>>2693830Why wouldn't I? It's the clearest example of what china would do if "the cost benefit analysis added up". Because their definition of "benefit" is serving the masses.
But I guess the charge of "they'd let you starve" isn't in calling china evil, but in calling economic calculation itself evil? Yes, if the cost of not letting you (a rando in some third world bourgeois shithole that can't muster up a revolution) starve is high enough, let's say for an extreme case, getting nuked, they'd let you starve rather than get nuked.
That's what "cost benefit analysis" means, yes. Essentially BE's argument then is a liberal-moralist one: calculating is evil, you should do what is "morally right" (ie soothes his and other westoids like himself's guilt about being complicit in the rape of the world perpetrated by their countries)
>>2693795isn't this the "commies starved a gorillion people" argument?
the soviets, for example, "let" people starve because the cost benefit analysis of having to industrialize didn't add up, so some grain had to be diverted to urban areas
>>2693795he approaches china from the same lens that some western trots and maoists do, believing that china has a moral responsibility to act like the post-ww2 soviet union, despite sharing the pre-ww2 soviet union's geopolitical situation (surrounded by belligerent imperialist powers, relying on foreign firms to industrialize etc.)
>>2693862China today is way closer to post-WW2 USSR than pre-WW2 tho.
>>2693795Both of them are right about the respective points they are making at that moment.
>>2693862hm. this is very curious and i think emblematic of the guilty conscious of first worlders on this site. nowhere has he implied that the PRC has such a responsibility. you are reading that into his xeet. do your best to check your feelings at the door when reading. often times third worlders will make simple objective observations of the status quo that are not necessarily moral judgements or jabs targeted at you, but the identification of present conditions for the purpose of charting a realistic course of action.
>>2693895Badempanada is a greek-australian sex tourist in argentina
>>2693862Unless PRC literally starts WW3 just to prop up this island halfway across the world which is of no relevance to it, he will consider it evil. Meanwhile he will do nothing to pressure his own government to support Cuba. That is what these Trotskyites are like.
>>2693893Did BE really do these things? yikes
>>2693912BE also tongued my anus back in 1992, without my consent.
>>2693895>nowhere has he implied that the PRC has such a responsibility.Are you ESL or autistic? The phrasing of "China would let you die" line does imply they have some responsibility to save lives and be self sacrificing despite cost-benifit calculations telling them otherwise.
BE will never be satisfied until the PRC follows the exact steps which led the USSR to collapse, trying to be the policeman of the world and forcing freedom onto peoples unrelated to them.
>>2693921PRC being the USA's bottom bitch was the real reason USSR had a hard time tbh
>>2686343it's kind of crazy how gamergate facilitated the global rightward turn … like not that crazy I guess since it was a psyop to begin with but I wonder if it will be recognized as such by future historians or if it will be glossed over because lol 'it's about ethics in game journalism' lmao, even
>>2693931Man, people talk about autism only from the perspective of behavioral symptoms and risk factors and whatever, and I'm like, WTF even is autism? It's hard to even research because almost every article is about that other stuff.
So I guess I'm seeing that autists brains grow too fast during childhood and it gets too big for the skull. Maybe the ancients were right. Maybe trepanation is the cure.
>>2693928not watching that but I assume their argument amounts to zoomtranshumanist unc baiting
>>2693948its about Brianna Wu making up harassment campaigns that never happened.
>>2693935It's sad when liberal dupes think laws designed to protect megacorps will also protect them. Of all the anti-AI copes this has to be the most pathetic.
>>2693908there's plenty of people "pressuring their government" its just that the government chooses not to listen, do you think that there's actual democracy at play in these liberal states ?
>>2693948>not watching that buthaha just about sums up 99% of responses to that guy
>>2693942>Wtf even is autismI am autism
>>2693958Pressuring their governments for rent controls, bodega subsidies and "community grocery stores"
Of course they need their pro small business populists need to say something "anti imperialist" during the initial marketing campaign, but then the candidate can go full zionist and nobody will care any more
>Pressuring their governments for rent controls, bodega subsidies and "community grocery stores"
lol you can't even criticize actual pro-cuban groups for their ineffectiveness you just flip straight to whining about democratic candidates
>Of course they need their pro small business populists need to say something "anti imperialist" during the initial marketing campaign, but then the candidate can go full zionist and nobody will care any more
sounds exactly like china
>>2693959If he supports Adrian Zenz there;s no reason to watch him.
>>2693963Mamdani comes from the same pro cuban "socialist" party that went to meet the cuban socialist party in cuba, only to snub them and talk to the liberal opposition instead
>>2693967he comes from the dsa, specifically the faction that works for the democratic party, you literally can't even name another group to criticize or a different reason for it you just keep seething against the lowest common denominator
while also heaping on loads of uncritical support to a nation thats basically doing the same shit zohran and co would do if they ran the federal government and then whine about how the americans won't voot for a good guy into power
>>2693961A mayor doesn't have any control over foreign policy. Adjusting bodega tax policy or whatever is something they can do. Not sure what you expect.
>>2693967DSA isn't real party. It's a large tent org that collects dozens of vaguely leftist groups that don't actually agree on anything. The Cuban story shows this. The people who meet with the opposition did it of their own volition and DSA couldn't even kick them out because technically they broke no rules lol
AOC met with the SPD. Lmao.
>>2693926Are you sure you aren't suffering from shitlib brainworms and/or being too online?
>>2693828ChatGPT what is the cost-benefit analysis of trading with israel
>>2693988The entire basis of China's position in the global economy is the trust that China will not meddle in internal political affairs, that is the bedrock of the goodwill that other nations afford China. And you want that understanding painstakingly cobbled together for several decades upon decades to be thrown overboard just so that some Bedouins can't but vacuum cleaners anymore.
Yes dude, let's just destroy the foundation of China's position in global trade, demolish their defining reputation that has afforded them so much growth and stability, and just jump headfirst into ultra-"left" plans devised by random westerners on leftypol.org who have zero understanding of either the material conditions within China or how China relates to the nations around it. That's definitely what REAL Communists would do.
>>2693795BE's take is lol
USAnos ain't gonna have a revolution, they are gonna get their own BRICS imposed Yeltsinites and "shock therapy" (and goodness willing balkanization). Once the cold war tilts enough for China and the local bourgeoisie's profit stands in managing the fire sale, instead of upholding US hegemony.
And they are gonna love it. They are gonna love it so much, that the liberal majority will probably join the ancap looters and their Dengoid owners against actual socialists.
China doesn't even need you to undermine the USA and win the cold war. When that happens, you'd be just another stepping stone to "socialism with Chinese characteristics"( in China, by 2100).
>>2693988The same one as trading with the US, europe, the commonwealth, etc.
Because israel is not a real country. It's a military outpost of the US. Well, none of them are. leftoids still believe in the fiction of nation states as pertains to the bourgeoisie lol
anything to nail another kapparot to the cross and absolve themselves just like they did with hitler
>>2693989pic rel
>>2693795>>2693841>isn't this the "commies starved a gorillion people" argument?No. When BadEmpanada says multipolarity "isn't real", he's arguing against the types of people that fundamentally believe and argue, directly or not, that multipolarity is an unequivocal good. Thus, all the state actors rising in power as a counterbalance to US hegemony are not just good, they're actually leftist governments, so uncritically supporting these governments is actually socialist internationalism. BE just expressed that argument stupidly, either because he can't grasp the idea clearly or he's deliberately provocative, or it might even be that he's trying to game twitter's algorithm with a short and quick spicy take because twitter's character limit just incentivizes that. Either way, the latter two reasons say more about the state of social media and limits of agitating on them.
>>2693809>But BE is wrong in the definition of “multipolarity” being equivalent to anti-imperialist solidarity, but so are many of his opponents. A multipolar world would just mean a chance for trade etc without being sanctioned by Le West.Multipolarity is a neutral thing. On one hand, it means that a unipolar hegemon like the US can't use that sheer power to terrorize the rest of the world. On the other hand, that doesn't actually mean that wars will become rarer. It must be reminded to people that the world before WW1 was also a multipolar world, but the difference this time is we have drones and nuclear weapons. The barbarism is only cranking up, and we don't even have a Communist International.
>>2693828All that graph says is China uplifted people's spending power, the way in which they got to it is a funhouse-mirror to how the US "reduced poverty" by increasing Americans' spending power, and the economies of the US and China have only gotten more codependent over the span of time that graph records.
>>2693862>he approaches china from the same lens that some western trots and maoists do, believing that china has a moral responsibility to act like the post-ww2 soviet union, despite sharing the pre-ww2 soviet union's geopolitical situation (surrounded by belligerent imperialist powers, relying on foreign firms to industrialize etc.)To say that China, the only country with a billion people ostensibly governed by a Communist party,
doesn't have a moral responsibility for anything just gives up any notion of socialist internationalism (and forfeits internationalism entirely to Capitalism/the Right). Even with morality put aside, it's delusional to expect the Chinese government in 2026 to support just any and every country or movement that claims to be socialist or anti-US, which is what's believed by the people BE is actually arguing against (again, he does it stupidly).
The Chinese state is not socialist, and their bureaucracy are attached to international and domestic norms the same way any US Democrat is. If revolution or civil war happened in the US tomorrow, the Chinese state would sooner back the gray, "apolitical" bureaucrats of the Federal state (whose ideology is preservation of the state and status quo for its own sake) than any Maoist org in the US. Hell, if revolution happened in the US, it might even inspire Chinese people to have one as well. The objective conditions of our time are comparable to the Second International, except we don't have an actionable International, and we have the wrinkle of living after failures of 20th century Leftist movements, and the passing of Fascism and its absorption into Liberalism.
The truth is that China is not socialist, but the fact that the government is run by a self-proclaimed Communist party means that
BOTH anti-government dissent by Chinese people on the basis that the government's not socialist or democratic enough
and people that enter the CPC with the explicit intent of doing capital-R Reformism towards socialism are equally legitimate actions for Chinese Leftists. It's the reality we're stuck with, and the only answer to it if you're not Chinese is an awkward, critical detente with China that please no one.
>>2693821>look at first graph>Obama/Biden, Trump I, Trump II>sees Israel drifted firmly into EU and China's orbit in Trump IIHmmmmm…https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/02/06/china-israel-embassy-lunar-new-year-reception-gaza-war/https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-countryhttps://tradingeconomics.com/israel/imports-by-country >>2693993>actually mean that wars will become rarer. ??? wars are just as neutral as multipolarity
>>2693993>funhouse-mirror to how the US "reduced poverty" Providing a dignified life to a billion people without rape-genociding the entire rest of the world is a mere "funhouse" mirror to the US doing that for an plastic consumer crap, cardboard houses and penis compensation trucks, got it
>>2693993>On one hand, it means that a unipolar hegemon like the US can't use that sheer power to terrorize the rest of the world. The US threatening to give a little tariff to anything selling to Cuba sure has the rest of the world, including your BRICS guys, cowering.
>>2693999trips dunk but I think a multipolarista would argue that multipolarity hasn't been achieved yet and is in the process of being achieved
>>2693996>??? wars are just as neutral as multipolaritySure, but we live in a time with nuclear weapons, and the more widespread wars are, the more weapons in reserves are likely to be used. In the absolute worst case scenarios where the biggest countries on earth are directly warring with each other, the reserves getting used up will get closer and closer to the ICBMs. It's why I said:
>the only answer to [our reality] if you're not Chinese is an awkward, critical detente with China that please no one.People can criticize the Chinese state and
not want a nuclear war between the US and China.
>>2693997>Providing a dignified life to a billion people without rape-genociding the entire rest of the world is a mere "funhouse" mirror to the US doing that for an plastic consumer crap, cardboard houses and penis compensation trucks, got itAnd who made all that?
>>2693999>The US threatening to give a little tariff to anything selling to Cuba sure has the rest of the world, including your BRICS guys, cowering.What? I'm not a campist. I think the people that believe BRICS is a coherent (and
feasible at all) alternative to US hegemony are delusional.
>>2694014>And who made all that?The global proletariat, incl. the chinese, at the gunpoint of the western imperialists
>I'm not a campistYou are, just an unconscious one. You're in the western imperialist camp, ie a "universalist".
There are the conscious imperialists, eg rubio, there are conscious anti imperialists, eg xi jinping, then there's unconscious anti imperialists like iran
But there's also unconscious imperialists, we call those " leftists"
Read mao and learn about the primary contradiction
just post the ACP shill link faggot
>>2694058Badempenuyghur found a new trolling targer eh?
>>2693998>Revolver Ocelot's backstory is he likes to circus clown twirl revolvers while meowing to signal subordinatesIt's the serious tone that makes it really funny
>>2694058>embargo on Israel could lead to world warHow?
Really though why doesn't China just embargo Israel? One small country of a few million people couldn't cost them that much business.
>>2694085because israel is not a country. it's a military base of the US.
it's pointless to do that unless you declare all out economic war on the US itself
also, you can't enforce sanctions if you're not a hegemon.
even the US struggles with kazakhstan mysteriously becoming a top 3 exporter of [everything westerners are not allowed to sell to russia]
china embargoing israel would be a symbolic gesture for no gain (the favorite activity of the westoid leftist) and a whole bunch of drawbacks
they'd blow their "throwing their weight around internationally" prematurely by several decades for 0 gain
btw stopping all trade with a country is tantamount to declaring war with that country
>>2694094Sanctions wont stop porkie from selling, even to rusha
>>2694094>china embargoing israel would be a symbolic gesture for no gain But on the other side of the coin, there is very little loss.
>they'd blow their "throwing their weight around internationally" prematurely by several decades You overestimate the importance of pretending to be neural in everything. Does anyone actually buy it?
>btw stopping all trade with a country is tantamount to declaring war with that countryThat's not true but even if it was, so what? What can Israel do to China?
>>2694131which part of israel=use are you pretending to not understand
>>2694155Israel is not the USA, it's a proxy. Stopping trade with a proxy while keeping it with the USA is not declaring war on the USA.
Realistically it's understandable if they don't completely stop trade but they can restrict weapons sales and parts at the least.
>>2694158>but they can restrict weapons sales and parts at the least.they already did
why don't you apply the leninist principle of "revolutionary defeatism" or "the defeat of one's own bourgeoisie" and organize to dismantle the disunited ssnakkkess of crackmerikkka?
>>2694158They do that already.
Hysterics about china selling "drones" and "weapon parts" is just about commercial consumer crap bought off of alibaba like toy drones and tacticool rifle accessories
>>2694161>they already didYet a post ago you said restricting trade was impossible and a defacto declaration of war on the USA.
Also if autistically following lenin worked the world would be communist by now but situations change.
>>2694163Apparently countries like Canada and the Netherlands officially restricted trade but I couldn't find much about China. Hysterics couldn't be possible if it was easy to find a press release or something. But it's a part of their current diplomatic doctrine to seem neutral so they kinda deserve it in this case.
>>2694185Learn the difference between stopping trade of specific things like weapons, chemicals, radioactive shit, vs embargo vs sanctions
>>2694200I'm a cis hetmoid, I just act gay in leftist spaces because I don't wznt to be discriminated and ostracizing
>>2693952brianna wu being a baby eating zionist grifter doesn't discount the myriad ways in which the legacy of gamergate has influenced the contemporary political landscape, like it was basically year zero for the trans debate something that is now literally determining the outcome of major elections and party policy
>>2693987>and/or being too onlineah yes too online sure mhmm i forgot that things that happen online are not actually real or of any material consequence whatsoever to the 'real world' in which 'real people' inhabit yup indeedy
>>2694205Sometimes I wonder where the real world obsessed people live
What's there really outside other than endless parking lots, roads, cars, supermarkets and fast food slop troughs
>>2693470what I really want is to get sex without spending all my money and wasting my life going to retarded social outings.
the main ideal of a man in any era is the ability to live your life in peace, but whenever you are horny you walk into a woman and convince her to have sex with you in the least ammount of time possible, looksmaxxers are just spending too much money on looking good.
>>2694223What am i looking at?
>>2694205its literally all spectacle
>useless usa elections approach
>hasan starts shilling for the dems again like his like depends on it
like pottery
>>2694220Sex is an experience you share with someone you care deeply about and who has reciprocal feelings for you. What you want is to go whoring which is the commodification of sex and therefore requires money or its equivalent, like a place to stay or drugs.
>>2694299I'm a sex ws commodity sexual. And commodification of the body sexual and class domination sexual.
I don't care about love, I want to sexually consume and dominate another human being & then throw them away, it gives me a sexual satisfaction far greater than mere orgasm *or* phoney "love"
>>2694426Everyone makes mistakes. Nobody's perfect.
>>2694426><Proceeds to ally with Nixon, Pinochet and the Mujahideen against the USSR and other communistsi usually disagree with you but yeah i still dont quite get what did mao mean by this tbh
>>2694437No one likes Indians. Even their allies hate them.
>>2694447Make more of theses, i like them.
>>2694437I mean he is correctly identifying that Indians cheering for Israel do not in fact give a shit about them, but missing the real reason which is simple islamophobia.
>>2694437>not even zionistsZionists will even show love to the Nazis in Ukraine but the Hindutva Indians give them the “yuck” lmao
>>2694447Bakunin of all people wouldn't be mad at Marx for using slurs or anti-Semitism lol.
>>2694426Revisionist pussy drove bro crazy in his later years, happens to the best of us.
>>2694505Should be marx is threatening to get me ASSASSINATED
(Actual cult leader?)
>>2694577Have they actually revealed the contents of Epstein's "little black book" that they somehow secretly obtained?
>>2694609it was Maxwells and has been knocking about for a while.
>>2694577George is so cool.
>>2694677??????? WTF??????????
Don't you know he was
ATTACKED and
ALMoST KiLLED?! >>2694907They've always been idealists who reversed the dialectic. For them:
>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality will have to adjust itself.>We call communism the real ideals which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in mental existence. >>2694925People say that liberals falsely equate nazism and communism to make liberalism seem morally superier, but the truth is that they whitewash nazism and assert that communism is even worse.
In this case they reverse the actual character of nazism and communism: depicting communists as violent, dim, thiggish, sadistic barbarians and nazis as super dispassionade calculated planners steeled by ideological certainty, when in reality the exact oppositd is the case
>>2694930Thats just true, don't work harder. work smarter. 10/10 Montenegrin commandments.
>>2694937that's also because you can attach names (and thus empathize) with a lot of the "victims" of communism,whereas the nazis killed a shitton of people for terrible reasons,but there is no victim that came out and became a celebrity or something,so it becomes abstract numbers instead of another human beings
>>2694960NTA, but that was more posthumous.
>>2694447Where’s the Stirner response video
Oh that’s right
No one has one
>>2694958This is why humanism and moral highground are spooks, the soviets should have cured Solzhenitsyn's cancer with a bullet to the head
Instead of exiling all those whining intellectuals like ayn rand and nabokov they should have put them to work on belomorkanal 2.0 and buried their bones in the cement
Sfalin should not have been joking when he said he intends to execute 50000 nazi apparatchiks
The west will make shit up about communists anyway, might as well go all out
>>2694968Can you explain to me how one can get famous after being murdered that is not 'posthumous'?
>>2694196https://govfacts.org/policy-security/economic-statecraft/economic-sanctions/understanding-sanctions-vs-embargoes-a-citizens-guide-to-u-s-foreign-policy-tools/Embargoes are just expansive sanctions. China can do various sanctions all the way up to a full embargo on Israel and it doesn't mean declaring war on the USA. In fact they have already reduced trade in things like computer chips by almost 50% since Gaza, they just haven't been very public about it.
>>2694925tbf liberals will often lean into the idea that unemotional=bad and emotional=good, so they portray Nazis as cold to make them bad guys. The idea cold=rational therefore nazis=rational is an unintentional consequence.
As for real history, many early SS officers were fanatics and enthusiastic killers. Later into the war many of the true believers essentially threw themselves into soviet machine guns because they actually believed their own superiority bullshit.
>>2694983The problem is that they can't fully enforce an extensive trade restriction anyway because they don't have enough leverage to enforce complicity with their neighbors.
There'd be labubu reselling shrll companies out the ass
Sneako is streaming with fucking James 'goyslop' Fishback, lmao.
>>2694991As stated earlier, it's more about taking a public stance against cooperating with genocidal governments than actually economically hurting them. However after looking into it more China isn't doing nothing, they are just not being very public about their economic shift away from Israel. They have been divesting, restricting trade and doing defacto sanctions since Gaza.
But is that enough of a punishment? People rightfully wish someone would achieve some justice somehow and limited sanctions doesn't seem like much. Since China is the world's second largest power and nominally leftist they are hoping they do something even if only symbolic. I understand China hasn't gone all the way with an embargo but at the same time there is no reason why they can't increase the sanctions at this point since they are already doing them.
>>2695026ideally, China should sanction the US and the entire West for using super imperialism, neocolonialism or unequal exchange to exploit the global south which china is part of
China is justdoing revolutionary defeatism by focusing on domestic issues instead of israel
>>2695147Why didn't they censor the man?
>>2695159because it is islamic propaganda duh
>>2695147I reread this meme a few times and it really doesn't make much sense. Don't Muslims agree with he pilgrim women? The Hijab woman should be pointing at the naked woman. Just replace Jesus with Muhammad and you can keep the same dialogue.
>>2695278i want the gender war to get worse, both men and women need to be angry and insane, I want more incels and more angry women.
>>2695267It's criticizing the hypocrisy of the West, since their labelling a culture as "backwards" is based exclusively on them doing things differently rather than any actual principles.
>>2695278Sorry moids, but if you don't worship fascist girl bosses you are misogynist #glassceiling
>>2695304>the WestThere is no singular west. Pilgrims also pointed to brightly dressed Europeans and complained about their dancing at festivals. That's why they left Europe.
>>2694930>reality will have to adjust itself.>The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in mental existence.So are Bordigists effectively just left-occultists who think by sitting in an armchair hard enough and with sufficient mental concentration that they can will or manifest communism into material being?
>>2695375I think they're just vulgar schrmatic determinists who believe that st. Marx (initially) said the revolution will happen in advanced capitalist countries, every attempt to do socialidm outsidd the west is reactionary and impeding the natural progess of history
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>>2690257banger, always skipped that album now i feel like a retard
>>2695597>implying stalin isnt the reason the USSR was able to do those thingswhy are stalinseethers like this
>>2695924He married sisters by the way.
>>2695702I just think BE is just a cantankerous attention whore, like a left-wing nick fuentes.
>>2695925He married his dead wife's sister
>>2691443This is the average leftypol loli defender.
>>2695597yeeesss, the brezhnevites sending weapons to defend their neocolonies in africa so that africans would sell bananas and fruits for industrial machinery….. totally this is muh national liberation and not the opportunistic bourgeoise and revisionists praticising social imperialism
>>2695954How else do you expect Russians to get bananas and mangos then?
>>2691985>BE is nextShit I hope not he's the lady bastion of free thought
>>2695999Khrushchev did less than 1% the anti-Communist sabotage that Stalin did…
>>2696044khrushchev told all communists parties that democratic socialism was possible and lots of communists got killed because of that, he is in part responsable for the current situation of so many "communist" parties actually being social-democrats
>>2696049That happened on both sides of the sino-soviet split. JCP for example was a Pro-Chinese party during the split and they were SocDems since Miyamoto.
>>2692182lavrov and putin aren't communists and aren't even good leaders.
having said that lavrov is in the emails being met by an epstein associate, but that associate was the norway PM. jeff did beg for an introduction. I don't know if he reappears post 2014 in some other document, but I doubt he'd be sending emails or calling on the phone there would only be circumstantial evidence like flight logs.
>>2695147Islam and christianity need to both be exterminated
Not sure if this means anything but the gay threads on /v/ have been getting less shit as of late. I don't know if it means anything though.
>>2695597he lost the plot, I'm hopping off the bad empanada train.
he had the best run out of any breadtuber by far, but his time has come, it's all downhill from here.
>>2692182russia's been asking the us to latch themselves onto the dollar again since a week ago btw
>>2695702Stalin literally let the USA occupy half of the Korean peninsula under the hope that the wartime cooperation would allow both sides to work together and form a singular democratic Korean state, thank God that revisionist made way for Comrade K.
>>2696233doesnt contradict what i said
>>2696238it doesn't but it does make the point that stalin was a retarded cuck in a lot of ways
>>2696204No they haven't.
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/dear-john
>On the U.S. Dollar Peskov clarified that Russia never intended to abandon the currency .
<“Russia has not refused to use dollars — it was the United States that imposed restrictions on the use of the currency”.
>Dollar settlements? Russia would return to dollar settlements…
<“if it is attractive and the U.S. stops restricting its use”.
>On Negotiation Status:
<“realistically, until there is some kind of settlement on Ukraine, it’s hard to talk about anything concrete”. >guy writing about delusions is called deluze
reality is a pynchon novel
>>2696322It’s pretty good
when did flesh simulator become a nazi? last i checked he was still pretending to be a centrist
>>2696373He is trying to game 20 year old tik-tok bussy and agartha memes is hitting hot there.
>>2696480"Sex worker" is liberal feminist code word for a madam, a petty bourg sex trader, a lady pimp who "made it" and floats like froth on top of the global industry of sex slavery, giving it a marketable face
Lenin put prostitutes to factory work
>>2696480>decolonizeAnd that's how you know Langley is behind it.
>>2696480how the fuck do you unionize sex workers, whom are they going to demand higher wages from, their pimps or their johns?
>>2696545>how the fuck do you unionize sex workers, whom are they going to demand higher wages from, their pimps or their johns?Basically, yeah.
Ideally you'd eliminate pimps altogether. Legalize and regulate the activity just like any other industry. Make bordellos into employee run and owned co-ops. Give them the rights and protections of any other worker.
>>2696568turn sex workers into self-employed petty booj pimps?
r-r-r-revolutionary
>>2696545There's a variety of them. The post i saw before that one was for workers unionizing in nevada brothels. I support this unionization effort, and any like it. We have muchbto learn from those most disenfranchised by the class society, and it says a lot that simply stating my support for those workers gets me attacked not on policy, organizational principle but moralism. The entire point of those accounts is to say shit to farm engagement. Let me add another 3-4 comments defending my moral position since you've called me "just another sex buyer" (burden of proof?).
But of course that's the circular logic of the post. I doubt that poster would platform the women trying to unionize because to do so would be to admit they are workers.
It is one thing to talk about how brutal the mines are. The young deaths from black lung, the bodily harm, the ruin of nature. Coal mining should be abolished, that's the easy moral position. Going to the miners? Organzing among them as an equal? Harder, much harder.
What is to be done with someone who is immersed in vaguely rad lib /ISG/ material (guy who thinks Destiny is an epic prophet, considers Hasan and Agent Kochinski "far left", equates socialism to Government Does stuff, but kinda sorta understands that the organization of capitalist society is not transhistorical as "common sense" likes to dictate.
I know some people like this, but just don't know how to help them educate themselves since they're deeply attached to the format and content of the educated and snarky internet liberal streamer debater.
>>2696573I'm sorry you're so terminally stupid.
>>2696545whores unionizing is class division because I deserve my cheap sex as a man, you are hurting the working class by demanding me, a working man to pay you more of my money which is alredy exploited by capitalism.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2696373I think the way he presents his content on Youtube or whatever is still a little different. On X he's a total nazi. Like a really fucking schizo kind too that thinks everything to leftist is part of a Jewish conspiracy to kill white people.
>>2696480gulag the sex kulak
>>2695999Nazis were defeated under Stalin while Soviet-Sino Split split happened under Khrushchev. Those two things alone outweigh everything on this list.
Looking at the big picture, Khrushchev left office after making the communist movement weaker while Stalin left it stronger.
>>2696765This is on the same level as leftists working to unionize child labor when they should be working on eliminating the practice all together.
>>2696765>I deserve my cheap sex as a manReminder. There's a time when we had moderation, when these sociopathic, ant-life, degen freaks would be insta-yeeted.
>>2696480>Houdini gets owned everywhere he goes.Interesting to know it's not just here.
>>2696863we all remeber the incel posts too
>>2696865More like ….Andrewdini.. amirite?
>>2696480whenever i feel left twitter is infested with retards i remember left instagram and left tiktok exist
>>2696492>"Sex worker" is liberal feminist code word for a madam, a petty bourg sex trader, a lady pimp who "made it" and floats like froth on top of the global industry of sex slavery, giving it a marketable faceNot. even. There are also examples of men who are escort agency owners being trotted out in the media as 'sex worker'.
Couldn't make it up.
>>26968524chan is cooked. The epstein experiment has ran its course.
On a side note, has the nazi problem on twitter gotten worse? I stopped using twitter and my mental health improved but I visited it recently and it feels like a nazi shithole of epstein larpers and bots.
>>2696480Crazy how Houdini always has the worst takes everywhere he goes, especially in regards to women
>>2696991You don't see it much if you've curated a decent algo and block a bunch of accounts, but still it's never more than a few clicks away. Hard to say if it could get any worse really
>>2696991Why is it that rightiods always sound so smug all the time? Like it's not like their thoughts are all that complex or esoteric either.
>>2697042Because most online rightists are a bunch of anti-social, neglected, bitches with a chip on their shoulder, and acting like a smug know-it-all feeds into their ego that they are smarter than the "plebs" they got bullied by in school by.
>>2696480This really hit the nail on its head. The wide umbrella of “sex work” obfuscates the reality that petit bourgeois sex workers (self-employed on Onlyfans) are the privileged face of this movement while the wide masses of sex trafficked and forced into prostitution people in no way shape or form would advocate for pride in sex work or advocate for its continued existence just with the removed stigma. Those are all bourgeois concerns, doubly obfuscated by making it a pro-feminist standpoint and stigmatizing its opposition as a misogynistic standpoint.
>>2696480that faggot houdini has a cringe joker profile picture? i thought he was good with aesthetics
>>2695597It was already obvious he was a revisionist dog in his early videos.
>>2695999I thought you were a left-com? Infantiles are all the same lol.
>>2696862what is so anti life about wanting to get my nut off without entering financial ruin? why do I have to ruin my life as a man to get sex? sex releases healthy chemicals in the brain and I need those to feel good, sex is healthcare and if I'm denied sex or asked to pay too much for it that is akin to the wolrd slowly killing me, prostitues are exploiting the johns.
>>2697047>petit bourgeois sex workers (self-employed on Onlyfans) You should be permanently banned.
>>2697047Truthnuke progressivecels are not ready to accept
>>2697186Hes one hundred percent correct.
Your eyes have been clouded by liberalism. Once those shed you too will be againt the sexual exploitation (rape) of women.
>>2697186typa person who thinks petit bourgeois is a moral judgement and not just the amorphous class that includes everyone that is between proletarian and haute bourgeois and gets mad at the word irrationally
>>2697047Gig based.
This is the ultimate filter for liberals and principled communists.
Prostitutes are labour deserters. Cam where's have no place in the people's revolution. They must know how to engage in productive labour.
I would love to jack off on camera for hours and get paid for it but buildings need to get built, food needs to be produced.
>>2697186True, but only because uploading naked pictures of yourself on an online platform doesn't make you a "sex worker" anymore than being a porn illustrator on Patreon does.
>>2697047I'm not sure how call girls and other such high class hoes are petite bourgusie per-say but stupidpolcels have always been pretty loose with their application of Marxist jargon inspite of their purity politics.
Not to say I'm pro-hookering however.
>>2697234>labour deserters?
yeah prostitutes arent proletarian bc theyre absolutely fucked by pimps and the nature of their job (like some typical housemaid wouldnt be a proletarian either bc they dont associate with other workers etc etc) but your post is just silly
>>2697238>call girls and other such high class hoesidk that post explicitly only refers to online grifts, where are you even reading this lol
>>2697186>You should be permanently banned.You should get sent by the state on to the street to work as a prostitute next time you sign on to unemployment benefits.
>>2697170>I need those to feel goodI really cannot wait until the post-rev male gulags.
>>2696480>>2697047>>2697238man it depends on the exact context, "sex worker" is such a vague term. its like using "movie worker" to mean anything from David Zaslav to an assistant lighting technician on an indie production
for example, there are probably genuinely proletarian sex workers in sectors like the porn industry and similar, and onlyfans owners are petit bourgeoise, but the general image that comes to mind when people think "sex worker", the classic "prostitute", is just lumpen
i refuse to use the term "sex worker" on account of it both being a weird liberal sanitisation of what actually happens and pretty unhelpful for actual analysis. theres a colossal material difference between street prostitutes and someone who sells nudes online. ironically pretty similar for the extremely insidious term "swerf", which in practice just seeks to equate any criticism of one of the most sordid industries out there with having stupid prejudices against trans people
You mean to tell me that Nevada has legal brothels? And that women work at them? Literally having sex with Johns as their labor source? You mean to tell me that these are women who are literally sleeping with people as their labor? Not onlyfans models on Xitter?
Can someone tell this poor woman that she's misguided and actually not a worker? We all know it's bad optics to have sex workers in our movement? Can't this chick see that she's actually petit-bourgeois? If only she read the right instagram accounts, she'd know that unionizing sex workers? Actually counter-revolutionary.
https://www.instagram.com/adalindgray_official>>2697234>They must know how to engage in productive labour.A prostitute that has a pimp and gives him her earnings is engaging in productive labour because they are producing surplus value.
>>2697240Housewives are also labour deserters.
Don't try to morality your way out of this. Both are labour westerners and housewives and prostitutes should be abolished under socialism
>>2697275Making some dude cum in your ass is really productive labour
>>2697234>>2697275there are proles engaged in unproductive labor and non-proles engaged in productive labor btw, stop trying to turn communism into sociology
>>2697276XD
>>2697276>labour westernersThe M3W-GPT bot is glitching out.
>>2697273if a woman in a Nevada brothel is unionizing, she is, by any materialist definition, a worker.
>>2697277There is no currently active party taken seriously that makes the distinction between "productive" and "unproductive" labor in terms of workers who can or can't join. I look forward to you explaining how Starbucks laborers are class traitors or some other fed-backed nonsense designed to trigger (you)s
It is interesting how this rhetoric was popularized by Hazcels, and "unproductive labor" is usually, almost always, a misnomer used to describe jobs primarily held by women.
I'm typing while driving reyards
>>2697277Generating surplus value is productive labour, regardless of what commodity is being sold. You understand that services are commodities yes?
If sex work is work why can't we all just quit our jobs and jack off on camera instead?
The world will still run right?
>>2697296Anon if everybody quit their jobs to grow watermelons the world economy would collapse. That doesn't mean watermelon farming isn't work.
>>2697296if mowing the lawn is work, why can't we all quit our jobs and cut the grass instead?
The world will still run right?
This place might as well be reddit being full of liberal gooners and all.
Productive labor produces something. Unproductive labor doesn't produce a thing, some unproductive labor is necessary for society to function
See slaves are not essential for society.
>>2697289>if a woman in a Nevada brothel is unionizing, she is, by any materialist definition, a worker.yeah w/e bro, ive made it pretty obvious im talking about streamers and shit, or prostitutes who are abused on the streets. not that being a worker automatically makes you proletarian or even CEOs and cops would be included lol, but people here are incapable of nuance and critical analysis so every discussion is just one midwit's slogans against another's
>popularized by Hazcelsthat misconception is much older you amerilard zoomie, communism didnt start with leftoidpol or twitter
>>2697304Do you consider a Waitress at Hooters/Twin Peaks to be doing sex work? Simple question.
>>2697306>write long ass post about how "sex work" as a term is stupidly vague and useless>get ignored and get asked this shit insteadawesome web forum you have here fellas
>>2697303>Productive labor produces somethingYes, it produces surplus value.
>>2697280>stop trying to turn communism into sociologywhat do you mean by this
>>2697260>>2697322the proletarians struggle is to abolish wage-work, ie the exploitation of labor. abolishing prostitution is but one aspect of that
>le bad for societysince when are communists concerned with such moral matters, especially about removing the "bad" aspects of bourgeois society?
>>2697311It's a really simple question. Do you consider a Waitress at Hooters/Twin Peaks to be doing sex work? Could it be that the dichotomy between "rich onlyfans model" and "forced at gunpoint to fuck people in a motel" is not really how the real world works?
If Hooters girls decided to unionize, maybe for better wages, better hours, protection from being harassed by patrons, the ownership of their likeness as it appears in promotional materials (ie Hooters calendars) would you support this unionization effort?
If the answer is no, you wouldn't support them, are you going to talk about unproductive labor? If the answer is yes, then why would it be any different for women working legal brothels?
>>2697315No one disputes they are exploited.
The shop owner is also exploited by the landlord his shop is located on.
>>2697327leftoids here (and everywhere else too) get hung up too much on isolated sentences to think about what makes the proletariat and what makes the middle classes or whatever
>>2697330>uygha still trying to enforce their dichotomy and assuming a lot of bullshit about meyou are an actual retard lmao. please point to what post ive made where i am against fucking unions(!) of all things or where ive even used productive/unproductive as an important factor in what determines ones relation to class (pls ignore the multiple ones where i do the exact opposite!!)
>>2697330That's simply economism for protitutes.
Cops have unions, does that make them workers?
>>2697338Yes but they are exploited in exactly the same way as any other worker. A shop owner paying his landlord is exploited via rent seeking, not extraction of surplus value. A prostitute sells her labour power to her pimp for less than the exchange value of the service she provides, just like any other worker.
>>2697329>since when are communists concerned with such moral mattersNever said anything about morality. It's a waste of labor power and resources.
i wish discussions here would deal with classes instead of "people"
>>2697348worker is not synonym with proletarian. yeah cops are workers lol. not everyone struggling over wages is proletarian but the vast majority are
>>2697352you cant begin and end with exploitation or even managers would be proletarians too, even with your amendment to your original post
>>2697358>its not morality, its efficiency!!trying to make capitalism more efficient isnt communism either
>>2697352Pimps exploit prostitutes the same way slaves were they don't get wages
>>2697364>trying to make capitalism more efficient isnt communismunions aren't communism either…
>>2697358"Waste" is a moral label.
>>2697381>"Waste" is a moral label.Am I being trolled?
>>2697373This whole discussion in general is so painfully online and bourgeois, half of its fuel is coming from the prevalence of onlyfans.
>>2697358Ok, you get your wish. Prostitution is eradicated and so is porn. The porn stars get another job and make less money and the prostitutes become homeless and starve, wholesome 💯 victory.
Leaving aside the obvious moralizing under the guise of efficiency, what is your great insight? The fact that prostitution wouldn't exist in communist society? Congrats for putting 2 and 2 together, I guess.
>>2697358you called it "le bad", thats a moral judgement
>>2697387The prostitutes are already homeless…. This is part of the issue we have.
>>2697380sure, not inherently, but workers fighting over their own wages clearly is (and no i dont mean minimum wage laws)
>>2697387Should hitmen unionize or not? What about meth dealers?
>>2697390Is "I have a bad back" a moral statement? It also has the word "bad" in it.
>>2697409>Is "I have a bad back" a moral statement?no, but saying something is "bad for society" without further elaboration is, regardless if inside your head you had the context
>>2697409did your back murder someone?
>>2697394Fighting over wages is just a part of class struggle not the end goal.
Ultimately having everyone in a union is not necessary to building a revolutionary movement or building a state. Majority of the population of revolutionary Russia and China were peasants who had nothing to do with unions. Unions were great organizing tools 100 years ago but It seems to have passed it's usefulness.
>>2697421>>2697494Are hitmen good for society?
>>2697514oh this retard is a maotard, that explains why all your posts are utter dogshit lol
>Fighting over wages is just a part of class struggle not the end goal.communism literally starts with the fight over wages LOL. nobody said anything about "end goal", i stated it is existing communism - aka THE proletarian struggle - which is empirically correct
>Unions were great organizing tools 100 years ago but It seems to have passed it's usefulness.lol say youre a sheltered faggot without saying youre a sheltered faggot. the union form is still where proletarians associate and struggle today, that theyve been castrated by the state is another matter entirely
>Are hitmen good for society?uygha became a broken record 💔 idc about bourgeois society and neither do immiserated wage workers. if you had read marx you could at least argue that prostitutes are politically and economically impotent and theres no proletarian association thats going to develop out of the lumpen class but youre here bringing up shit about "efficiency" lmao
>>2697519>communism literally starts with the fight over wagesno it doesn't
you are retarded
>>2697519>the union form is still where proletarians associate and struggle todayno, it's where the labor aristocrats do
proletarians struggle and associate through much better organizations - states. see dprk, china, etc.
and they are associate and struggle against your bourgie sex trafficking rapist epsteinite kind
It took women millenia to stop trading sex for subsistence, they now can trade labor for subsistence like me.
Let's not turn back the clock 1000 years.
>>2697542>It took women millenia to stop trading sex for subsistenceThat hasn't stopped.
>>2697519>maotardRevolutionary Russia is maoist?
>i stated it is existing communism - aka THE proletarian struggleSo asking your boss for a raise is communism now? top tier leftcom retardation
> the union form is still where proletarians associate and struggle today,All 9% of them…
>that theyve been castrated by the state is another matter entirelyIt's not a different matter when it comes to their possible organizational abilities of organizing revolutionary movements. Government interference is part of that.
>uygha became a broken recordIt's funny how you avoid giving a straight answer and keep dancing around it. If you support prostitution unions, why not also support hitmen unions or meth maker unions?
I'm a trotskyist. Thoughts?
>>2697607Have you read everything Lenin wrote about Trotsky?
>>2697611No. What's his overall opinion?
>>2697613there is a playlist on youtube about it, you should check it out about before fully taking the trotpill
>>2697529Holy shit, dude. You might not like that communism begins with the struggle over wages, but it's an undeniable fact. Do you think communism started because someone conceptualized it in a vacuum and then reality followed suit or because workers started collectively bargaining for better wages? People like Marx analyzed this and concluded the immiserated wage worker can only effectively improve their situation by getting rid of class society altogether, but that doesn't change how communism historically came to be.
>proletarians struggle and associate through much better organizations - states. see dprk, china, etc.Oh, it's just another unfunny moron trying to be epic.
>>2697630Unfortunately for the western prostitutes, some guy named carl mark already figured it out, so they can now start fighting the class war instead of asking their pimps for more cummies
I like BE
>>2697652everything I have learned about this retard has been against my will
>>2697671 (me)
i dunno about bad empanada but at this point i'm convinced that 90% of former dirtbags and xitter leftists are ontologically evil people
>>2697671What's surprising about this? Only fucking retard analyst watch or read right-wing media. Why would you consume your own propaganda? This is like Western Embassy staff reading Monde Diplomatic or Akahata.
>>2697677these people are supposed interlopers for the left and they're just casually dropping that they have had these boring stints at murder and torture inc in college, like this is complete eichmann shit, fuck these souless careerist ghouls.
>>2695999>Had a cult of personality and did not even bother to stop itIt's well known here that this is not the case.
>Many of the people who were purged by him where [sic] innocentI don't think Stalin was personally purging people left and right. This is just silly.
>>2697679>these people are supposed interlopers for the left and they're just casually dropping that they have had these boring stints at murder and torture inc in collegeThey're interlopers for the left because they watched Hasan or listened to Chapo in uni?
>>2697681i know you're an extremely retarded person and are unable to infer meaning given context and you are cattle who is going to be replaced by an LLM tomorrow, but sami gold (known liberal zionist and objectively an interloper for the left) is bragging that the CIA is more progressive and has overcome it's mccarthyite past, based on his *personal* experience meeting CIA glowies, as in, they're watching Hasan because they feel personally identified with his politics, and thus participate in the "american left". of course you can spin it as CIA interns doing reconnaissance or whatever, though it's obviously more akin to the dumb cumtown sketch
>>2697630>communism begins with the struggle over wagesPrimitive communism didn't have wages.
>Oh, it's just another unfunny moron trying to be epic.You never said why states don't work for worker organization. You just insult anon and pretend you won. This isn't 4chan.
>>2697686>You never said why states don't work for worker organization. It's not that they don't work, but that getting to the point where you can establish one requires a lot of arduous struggle over more immediate, everyday needs. The struggle over wages is the first and most obvious area over which capital and labour comes into conflict. Therefore it's the first and most obvious issue around which to organize and begin building class consciousness.
>>2697685>known liberal zionist and objectively an interloper for the leftIf he's a zionist then he's not an interloper for the left.
>>2697690>If he's a zionist then he's not an interloper for the left.this is some shit tier no true scotsman garbage retort. the guy clearly presents himself as being on the left, god i knew you were dumb but holy shit.
>>2697691>the guy clearly presents himself as being on the leftThat doesn't mean he is lmao. The SPD at one time presented themselves as Marxists but they weren't.
>>2697685It's not reconnaissance lol, it's just that leftist media and analysis is objectively better so even ghouls and glowies will use it.
>>2697687>Therefore it's the first and most obvious issue around which to organize and begin building class consciousness.I don't disagree. The issue is when unions are seen as necessary and something workers must join to move communism forward. We are simply pointing out unions have been crippled for decades and so there needs to be other organizational forms to make the leap to statehood instead.
>>2697695>since capitalism has been a thingNice little caveat you just tacked on. You said the communism only began at the struggle over wages. Clearly this is historically wrong.
>bc thats totally relevant to the convo If Communism is not intrinsically tied to wage struggles that means even if wages are an important motivator for workers to try for communism, wage struggles aren't the only thing needed to reach it.
It's clear you want to have a reason why states are not necessary to reach communism. So you are trying to use a purposefully limited historiography of communism to reach the conclusion you want to reach.
>>2697652I wish the ACP people took the Empanada bait. However, if they are plagued by retards, they do have a common strength. Everyone is there for the grift. It's MLM (heh) but for clout based revenue businesses. The ACP looks less like a party ( or a cult) and more like a formalized version of the sort of clout networks which social media encourages. So they won't do shit unless someone above themselves approves of it. And I'd expect the top people to be smarter than that.
>>2697671if you think podcasts are politics you're ngmi
>>2697894I predict all american grifters will unite under one front, free healthcare, imperialism and treats, take my word for it.
>>2697894Materialist explanation is that, uh, hasan and asmongeld work for the same person or organisation
>>2697894Hasan is a liberal, asmongold is a cockroach, destiny is a pedophile and Twitch streamers should be sent to labour camps. Thats all the material explanation you need to know.
>>2697894I can half-forgive yanks for not blowing up Wallstreet.
I cannot forgive yanks for not murdering Destiny, Contrapoints and Ben Shapiro.
>>2697944Joe Rogan used to support Bernie but then he switched to the Republicans and invited Drumpf to his propaganda shit just for socio-political brownie points. I bet Rogan's scared of getting prosecuted by the glowies
>>2697894Asmongold is a supporter of Trump AND some Twitch moid who just put a shock collar on his dog? How intriguing…..
>>2697685>but sami gold (known liberal zionist and objectively an interloper for the left) is bragging that the CIA is more progressive and has overcome it's mccarthyite past>>2697726>It's not reconnaissance lol, it's just that leftist media and analysis is objectively better so even ghouls and glowies will use it.I met someone who worked for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency in D.C. once at a bar (that's one of the less impressive military intelligence ones), they're just around there, you run into them. "Oh what do you do?" They work for the State Department or whatever. Also saw the Russian military attache at another bar during happy hour, and "military attache" is almost definitely intelligence btw. They're just around D.C., it's part of the atmosphere.
Part of the issue with the CIA is that it's a clandestine intelligence agency so most people haven't met any CIA officers (that they know about) and don't really know who these people are. But I think a lot of them are relatively liberal in the social/cultural sense, and the job attracts high "open to experience" personalities with analytical characteristics. It's really not the boy's club that it was in the 1960s. But they do marketing that you're part of a group of diverse intelli-nerds who are interested in the world.
>>2698261How come the generation who grew up on South Park and Chappelle became PC is this what they call dianetics.
>>2698261>65 liketw tweetwhy care?
>>2698261The last tweet is actually correct.
>>2698261he's right, the 2010s leftoid cultural supremacy was extremely embarrassing and achieved nothing
but same is true of the preceding and proceeding chud cultural supremacy, in each phase of the cycle the two wings of social fascism pointing and crying at each other
>>2698520Looks like total unserious libshit. Abortions aren't nice fun things to have as a hobby.
>>2698376The left basically didn't exist in the 2010s and SJW shit, identity politics shit, was pure liberalism designed by think tanks to prevent anything like OWS from happening again.
>>2698261the fuck is unc even talking about hahahaha
>>2698549That "is" leftoidism
There's only marxism and liberalism, representing the two classes
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