Americans in the know were fucking pissed they couldn't invest in China in the 2000s with their 401ks.
>>2806142It's because they're not real that makes them more appealing. It's like a fantasy that's better than reality, at least some of the time.
>>2805056>getting cringe exposed for wanting covid 2.0 with the hantavirusIts like how all the Trump assassins were centrist radlibs who were driven crazy because their ideology had constrained their ability to imagine any other utopian alternative. A normal, spiritually healthy person can simply discard liberal ideology and work to improve their community or something. If all you have is liberalism, the only utopia available is just picking up a gun and running down a hallway like an NPC. If neoliberalism destroys our ability to imagine a utopian alternative, then the only option is to hope that God (the free market) sends a plague
>>2806079>spreading hate and false information/r/neoliberal, the Jeffrey Epstein subreddit, has spent the entire year seething at Hasan for his wrongthink in critiquing Zionism. I think we all know what the Rahm Emannual NAFTA globalists of the world consider "false info"
>>2805842today if you ask women from Central Asia they are fighting for the right of wearing niqabs and practicing their religion against an intrusive and authoritarian capitalist state. The old bolshevik framework of red enlightenment saving women from evil feudal clericalism just is not true anymore. Religious Catholic sisterhoods and niqab-wearing women are objectively closer to the working class women of the Oppressed Nations than the 'liberated' women who all sympathize with American liberalism and its attendant capitalist empire
>>2806142>>2806165Funny because in France there is a woman that got harassed so much by muslims she was "adopted" by right wingers as the face of Islamophobia,where they unironically say she's beautiful etc,but she's a woman with dyed hair and a septum piercing (they would call her an SJW if they could)
Seems like agreeing with my politics >>> actual appearance
The opposite also happens,where obviously if you don't agree with me your appearance is that of a river troll (people do that here too)
>>2806180cool story bro too bad you are retarded and a abrahamo-fascist. People over in bumfuckistan where they cut off little girls cunts because allah told them to and dress their slave women up in plastic bags are going to have to figure out their own shit because of the failures of the Soviet Union.
Of course FGM and baglife is promoted by women in these places, that doesn't mean we should tolerate it, especially in our countries. And it for fucking sure doesn't mean that it's right, good, or (for fucks sake) communist thought to accept this as legitimate.
>>2800373omg did he marry his secret wifey?
>>2806207>popularized lo-fi emo rap, for the midwest zoomer white girl demographicall I know is this dude is highly overrated, which I have discerned by listening to like maybe three songs. rap can be an instrument of self expression, sure, but it's 95% embodying an aesthetic, which divorces it from any greater intellectual capacity it may have. I say this as someone who likes rap but who ultimately can't take it seriously when jokers like this stand adjacent to what I consider to be more competent acts, and I know that's unfair to say because art isn't a competition, but analysis is subjective so what do you want huh?
also I don't know what this has to do with politics.
man. i recently saw some post about coach red pill/gonzalo lira again, made me think of the guy. that guy had the craziest arc ever to imagine
>getting kicked out from a college in the US because of harrassment allegations
>moving back to chile, becoming a director, directing several romantic comedies with a big budget there
>stealing the credentials famous anti-capitalist economist steve keen, selling a fraudulent paper based on this
>after a failed marriage, become a manosphere influencer in the alt-lite/alt-right, broadcasting from a professional studio with six different camera angles and a cam on a drone
>disappeared after having incredible low cow like chimpouts in streams of Agent Kochinski. destiny, etc.
>emerged again, moved to kharkov and become a frontline war blogger, openly run around in Ukraine while supporting Russia
>gets arrested by the SBU, released after a hoxaist politician told be chilean ambassador to demand his release
>gets arrested again, gets sent to a tornado battalion torture camp, gets send back to the SBU, dies there after they deny him medical treatment for his lung cancer because he smoked 40 cigs a day
epic dude.
>>2806625Richest man in the world btw
>>2806625Is Elon saying he's a socialist?
>>2806631Nah, thats just PR.
>>2806012>EvoliansAnd mfs here call you radlib for saying this geezer is a fascist.
>>2806625The true revolutionary
>>2806595Wait, he died? Lmao I remember when he got kidnapped by Ukrainian glowies and ziggas were genuinely crying for him like he was fucking Lenin or something.
>>2801715The fascinating about Haz is just how little substance there is to like…anything he's ever said or done. You can watch hours worth of his streams and read everything he's ever written, and be left with very little in the way of concrete ideology beyond that. And of the substance is there, most of it demonstrates such an embarrassingly poor grasp of core Marxist-Leninist principles that it makes me wonder why anyone listens to this fag to begin with.
It's something that extends to a lot of the culture around him as well. His audience of active followers is loud and autistic, but not particularly large. If you look at le ACP gorilla army defending Haz's honor, you'll notice that it's the same guys popping up over and over again. Not all of them reply to every Haz-related post, and some show up more frequently than others, but it is pretty consistently members of this pool of 50 or so people leaving the majority of replies, with said replies being generic canned nothing. This isn't the sort of thing that you would see with someone with an actual, organic following. If you look at replies to Nick Fuentes it's the sort of thing you see when a small group of people all in the same Discord server attempts to manufacture consent.
>>2803178Pick fights with people who are bigger than you, and cultivate an audience that goes out of its way to antagonize the people you're targeting so that they feel forced to respond to you. It sounds like a joke but it is genuinely in incredibly fast path to internet fame if you know how to work
>>2806625Hitler was a human so all humans are Hitler
>>2806666damn humans, they ruined hitlerism!
>>2806663People with that kind of parasocial attachment to internet personalities are genuinely sick
How does logo, haz, and hinkle have the following that they do?
>>2806595>>emerged again, moved to kharkov and become a frontline war blogger, openly run around in Ukraine while supporting RussiaHigh autism score move
>>2806760
You can just turn off your router and wait like 30 mins instead
>>2806772KB and Edberg had a good thing going, but I think KB stole money or something and now he doesn't make content anymore. Logo lost his wife and doesn't give any more interesting takes.
>>2803178Be a top tier troll?
It’s not that hard or maybe I’m just jaded from doing it so long
>>2801423>fascist has to hang with fascist because he gets called a fascistPoor babby
>>2806813Wrong. Kantbot has moved on to whatever this is
https://www.patreon.com/posts/sociology-of-156122864and logo just had his second daughter. (still retard who sniffs his own farts). I always liked kantbot better of the duo.
>>2806814>>2806834Piers was on British TV tonight ranting about how trans women are men…
>>2806834Žižek is against moralism and for materialism?
>>2806746Hinkle is well connected, showing up on, for example Russia Today. Haz did the same thing as Bad Empanada, where he started drama with people bigger than himself in order to get exposure.
It should be worth noting that, as I said before, Haz's audience isn't actually that large, and doesn't exhibit much potential for growth. Most of the interaction he gets, and virtually all of the positive attention, is from the same cluster of people who've been hanging around him for a few years now. When I mentioned a small group of people all in the same Discord server, that wasn't just an analogy; I've seen screenshots of Haz on Discord directing his epic ACP army to leave comments on specific social media posts to make him look good in Twitter arguments.
If you want a comparison point, look at the replies to Hinkle's posts, as well as who's replying to posts about Hinkle. There's a lot more variety among the people leaving the replies and what they're saying, and you can tell that a lot of them aren't even part of Hinkle's regular community at all. Sure, Hinkle has a larger follow count, but 1. those are easy to bot, so it doesn't really matter, and 2. if you look at things proportionally, the point still stands: most people with follow counts similar to Haz's get engagement much closer in nature to Hinkle's; you see a few returning people here and there, but most the replies are new or at least from people who don't frequently comment. I've never really seen anything else like what Haz has, where the only regular interaction he gets is from diehard fans.
I think Haz's idea is that his microcommunity of true belivers will one day translate into a mass movement. But it doesn't really work that way. When you cultivate an audience of only true believers, it creates an incredibly odd, cult-like culture that is offputting and/or embarrassing to those that are not already in it.
>>2806931Bilzerian is a dangerous freak. im pretty sure hes why randy fine said he wanted armenians out of washington D.C lol
>>2806931No idea who any of these people are besides fuentes but the fact some literal neo-nazi is crying about "noo please don't be violent or assassinate people" is funny
>>2806934I don't know anything about him except he's far right and looks like a roided out freak. I took one look at him and was like nah I don't need another internet Frankenstein monster to know about, I'm tapped out. Apparently he's rich?
>>2806972based bri, she wasn't even trying to win or be in a debate
>>2807096wow Chris Hansen is such an antisemite
>>2807150what's the original?
it is pretty funny how hasan has embraced being a dog for the democratikkkk party, he might as well be cpusanon at this point
ZINGAnyway, will be funny to see how he has to deal with all of the glaring contradictions to protect his wealth and enablers, he will just yell and call every criticism stupid I guess
>>2807136He really should just embrace his inner incel and go full chud
>>2807211I don't really think what's funny about discovering something recently that has been the same for 15 years.
>>2807221No, this was indeed always his role, but he was insignificant enough to create a "radical" persona. The difference is that now he is big enough to hang out with all of the responsible, realist adults, so all of his radical posing will increasingly be met with institutional pushback, and he will have to try and built a bridge between saying "I am communist" and behavior like a guard dog for THE political project of the capitalism class
>>2807273He has written for columns for the Huffington Post 10 years ago, worked for the Turks before but now does not depend on mainstream media for his clout or living so I am not following your logic here. I would actually predict that Hasan will become more bolder and more aggressive from now onwards with more radical messaging.
>>2807055As a Liberal myself, this video requires some moderation. The three pillars: "liberty, democracy and rule of law", can be equalised under the political supremacy of parliament, or the legislative branch of government, where all civil law (as per Locke) is simply a protection of private property rights. There is no more mysticism to law than this; providing justice in property.
Since all men have a claim to property in their person, they have a right to be not be aggressed upon, since otherwise, this constitutes unlawful theft, trespass or destruction of property. We can see this in how crimes against persons are perpetrated: assault, murder, theft, rape and enslavement are all claims of property over an individual, which they themselves have not consented to; thus, sex is not rape if it is mutually agreed to, whether implicitly or explicitly. Too, the transference of property from one person to another is not theft if the property is transferred voluntarily. So then, the ends are lawful or unlawful according to means, the basis of which is the form of a contract (a contract can either be written or unwritten, according to code of honour). A system of trust relies on unwritten contracts, while an anti-trust system relies on written contracts. The contract is also reckoned to be the basis of civil law, by constitution of a "social contract" of propertied parties.
Once established, all property rights are taken with equal precedence, such that someone with greater property cannot lawfully aggress against another of a smaller property (even if this property is their own person). This is what we call "equality under the law". Rule of law is the idea that even the Sovereign is under the obligation to follow the written law, which is espoused by Coke in his "Petition of Right" (1628), in which the Magna Carta (1215) is invoked, as a defense of the natural liberties of citizens. Here, the citizen is reckoned to then share equality with the Sovereign, by means of their mutual subjection, rather than any exception which the Sovereign should have. This is not a universal opinion of Liberals however, since we see in Kant, the exception he places upon the Sovereign, while the citizen is subjected to the coercion of Civil Law. We may further look at historical examples. In the Roman Republic, we have a role of state called the Dictator, who is entrusted with absolute power in times of crisis, and whose role is thus limited to resolving effective civil war. Once the conflict ends by a harmony of opposed interests (by reconstitution of the social contract), this role disperses and common rulership continues. A flaw in Kant's view then is the imagination of perpetual crisis - and this is the error of all authoritarians. Authority and absolutism is a means to an end, not an end in itself.
Democracy is the most contentious term, since its denotation ("rule of the demos/citizen") has limited historical examples. The democratic system in both ancient Greece and in modern America had slavery for their foundation, and further, only white Christian males had proportional representation in government. One could be "free" thus, but not politically enfranchised. This was also the case in the English middle ages, where the free peasantry persisted as part of the third estate, yet had no presence in the House of Commons. Even at Cromwell's permiership, his constitutional document, "Instrument of Government" (1653) explicitly limited enfranchisement to the wealthy, and voting rights were only further reformed in 1832 under Peele. There is no grand hypocrisy here however, since Locke in his political writings, justified slavery under the state of War, which is opposed to Society, and so sees all aggression against foreign states as a suitable means to acquire further property. Locke and Rousseau see slaves as the descendants of cowards, and so their capture as legitimated by their forfeiting of rights. To the liberal then, a "prisoner of war" is a voluntary slave. As yet, there is of course the legitimate enslavement of subjects, such as the irrational; whether juvenile or criminal. The rights of parents over children is seen as universally permissable (the same as masters over animals), and the criminal (who forgoes his reason) is made subject to law, by his violation of others' rights. The basis of much law is the preservation of reason by self-control; thus, the uncontrolled person is enslaved, first by their passions, and secondly, by the state.
The categorisation of children, animals and criminals as slaves seems adequate, but what of prisoners of war? It is of course true that slavery existed in Africa before Europeans arrived, and they willingly bought slaves from native masters; thus, this transference of property is simply a manner of commodity exchange (the same way much of American land was exchanged for). Here, the laws of property hold, but there is as yet, contrary claims in the slave. As early as Greek antiquity, the idea of freeing slaves was present, and so the inherent human dignity of the enslaved was recognised, but on what basis? If we look at reason, the child is under rights of the parent, but the adult is freed from the parents and gains civil self-determination. Some might say its arbitrary to put an age on reason, but this has always been the case, elsewise there could not be a meaningful distinction between children and adults. There is a further condition however, that some adults are inherently irrational, like the mentally retarded, and so their age does not confer reason, but a heightened dependence upon a master (e.g. guardian). Thus we say that some people have "the mind of a child", and so their legal status is internal, not external, of their humanity. This is even moreso the case under criminal law, where means are more important than ends, as previously discussed; for example, "intent" is a multiplier of legal "guilt", which is doubled as moral guilt. Similarly, if a child is young enough, they have no guilt for a crime, and so the internal and external person is considered.
On examples of internal contradiction within slave relationships, we see how all slave societies regard a moral regulation of force against the enslaved, such as in the Levitical Law, where if a master is too brutal, he himself is made guilty. The idea of "Jubilee" in Judaism is also important, since slavery is inherently limited by the duration of service (7 years). Too, this is equally applicable to children, animals and criminals; that if one abuses either, they themselves are guilty and so are replaced with more suitable guardians. So then, the rights of property over another does not mean the license of absolute power over them. Rights then, are conditional upon self-control and a general social good. The rights of the slave may equally undertake the form of liberating property by benevolent dictatorship (such that both the British Empire and United States compensated slave owners, in purchasing their slaves' freedom). In other cases, slaves may revolt, such as Spartacus, and in which case, the inherent rights of man are given, by the courage to assert oneself (Albert Camus thus calls rebellion a metaphysical claim, but I would again moderate this as a claim of property). There is the final case of masters voluntarily freeing their slaves, which is often only after a period of service. In the first case, freedom is granted, by relinquishing of the claims of property through transferred ownership. In the second, rights are asserted in oneself, and in the last, freedom is granted directly from the master. So then, if the slavery of men begins by the capturing of the prisoners of war, it ends by releasing the prisoners of war. Is it ever right to possess slaves, then? Yes, and no. We see in the rhetoric of slave masters, the concept of enoblement, whereby a slave is made better by the guidance of a righteous master, and so imitating the child-parent relationship. This is made explicit in Robinson Crusoe (1719) where negro slaves were converted to Christianity and then "integrated" into the ways of their masters' civilisation for a period of years, after which, freedom was promised. Here, slavery is both noble and ignoble. In the case of criminals, there can also be this application, in reform or rehabilitation. Some people are never fixed, and so will live their entire lives under subjection of a master, such as life-long criminals, and so they live and die as slaves, which is only fair.
The purpose of this narration is to show the conditions of slavery in regard to a democracy, which we now regard as the rule of the property-owners. However, if all free men own themselves, then why ought they not participate in the political process? The holding of land in particular was most considered, since this is where the value of a nation is also conserved. So then, we can discriminate further to see that only land-holders had the right to vote, as a particular sort of property-owner. Holding land then gives one a share in the value of a nation, and so the concern of the state is simply returned as a self-interest of landed capital. We saw this in the Roman Republic, where the Patricians and Plebs had civil wars for a claim to land, and this was settled by a sharing of powers. All political power then, as regards territorial states, can be said to be the power of land, with the sharing of power being a sharing of land. The English Civil War (1642-51) was largely spearheaded by the privatisation of common land, leading to radical movements such as The Diggers (1649-53) who saw that they had a stake in land by their cultivation of it, which is a sentiment later repeated by Locke (1690), that where land is mixed with labour, one establishes property. This "homestead principle" is later broadened by thinkers in its application upon uncultivated, derelict or abandoned land in general. For example, if I use land which is unused, I gain right to its use (in theory) while the claims to the right of land impersonal of its use are secondary. So then, a private estate may be claimed by those who cultivate its soil - yet this has never been a wholly consistent principle. The radical seed of this idea though is that there cannot be any justice to ground-rents, since they are directly resultant upon the labour of others. For this reason, Rousseau (1755) and Adam Smith (1776) both saw property and land taxes as most justified, with sales taxes also being legitimated. The redirection of rents into public funds shows the homestead principle in the workings of Political Economy, by the implicit and explicit repudiation to the rights of land. Von Thünen (1823) later examines land in relation to a "natural wage", showing that where land is most competitive, wages are highest, the same as what Marx analyses in Capital Vol. 1, Chapter 33 (1867), and for which reason he properly attributes the rise of capitalism to "primitive accumulation" (e.g. the privatisation of land). So then, wages are diminished by the constriction of competition, in capital and land. Thomas Jefferson regarded his ideal America as a collection of independent Yeoman farmers, and noticed how industry produces wage slavery and subordination. The hypocrisy of course is that Jefferson owned slaves himself, and so he lacked any Yeoman spirit himself. To conclude on this point is to show how democracy was never about a system of voting, but a ruling class interest, principally based in the ownership of land.
Now, as opposed to democracy we have another Liberal conception; namely, "Republicanism". The main theorist of Republicanism can be seen as Rousseau, who apart from the Social Contract, sees the fundamental constitution of a Society as the strength of a "General Will", which when manifested, becomes the body of law. The law thus, only gains legitimacy if it accords to the general will, and if it deviates, the source of its illegitimacy is in the denial of the general will. The general will is thus the source of right, which as Rousseau writes, constitutes liberty in equality, and thus by mutual coercion. So then, if the basis of property rights are non-aggression, our continued freedom is in respect to this first limitation. So then, this limit gives possibility to the unlimited. Rousseau writes this explicitly, that Sovereignty is the rule of the General Will, and abidance to this precept is the meaning of freedom. We see this somewhat repeated in Kant, that freedom is our conformity to the Moral Law, by which we become ends in ourselves by Practical Reason. The difference I would say is that Rousseau negatively constitutes law as prohibition (e.g. that which we should not do), while Kant conceives of law positively (that which we must do). Freedom then, is liberty, established by equality, in the General Will. How is the General Will then known? To the typical democrat, the "Will of the People" is seen to be reflected by General Election, where a vote confers a part of the whole of society. To Rousseau however, the General Will, as first principle of Social Contract, may thus appear as any form of government - even monarchy may then appear as a Republic, so long as it expresses the wellbeing of society, which is its true measure. So then, is a society freer by virtue of its suffrage? Not necessarily, and so like in the Roman Republic, if Dictatorship secures safety in times of crisis, is this not preferable to civil war? So then, the General Will may be invoked by a dictator, which the video creator seems to scoff at; as though liberty and equality were merely aesthetics of a voting process. So, voting is not necessarily democratic, democracy is not necessarily universal, and universal governments are not necessarily democracies. The liberal then, cannot be so enclosed within contemporary prejudices, since even a Liberal Democracy can be totalitarian.
Totalitarianism must be entirely separated from authoritarianism, for one can oppose the other. Totalitarianism is the self-styled philosophy of the Italian Fascists, whereby all things are entered into and mediated by the State. Arendt later adds Communism into the Totalitarian concept. What makes each totalitarian is not simply formal authority, but conformity to the narratives of power; an overcorrection of dissidence, etc. It is, as per the words of Tacitus, "More laws, less justice [order]", and so is as Mises writes, a type of "planned chaos", as opposed to Ordo ab Chao. The opposite can thus be true of authoritarians, that they arise to disperse disorder, not to perpetuate it. Liberalism in its policing of counter-hegemonic forces, has inverted to a sort of totalitarianism, or what Foucault and Deleuze refer to as "Control Society" as opposed to "Disciplinary Society", which as it is attributed to Frederick the Great; "My people and I have come to an agreement that satisfies us both. They are to say what they please, and I am to do what I please." Thus, the true king does not fear criticism, and so he is less harmful to the spiritual condition of his people than those who wish to control the mind, rather than the body. Both Fascism and Communism are not simply known as authoritarian thus, but totalitarian, or regimes which seek to control people's minds rather than their bodies, which is equally true of totalitarian liberal states. So then, the criticism of totalitarianism must apply to liberal countries, and must also appreciate the anti-totalitarian effects of authoritarianism, or absolutism. We can say generally then, that liberty is the presence of order, while the presence of law can be disorderly. Order then, is the ends of all liberalism. Ordo ab Chao.
To conclude: voting does not make you free. Defining all politics as the ability to vote or not is a ridiculous metric to determine liberty, equality and the rule of law. In the US, politicians rule by open corruption and bribery, so how can the law rule the land, unless the law is not ruling in all cases, but exceptional to those in power? So then, if the powerful are not ruled, they are ruling everyone else.
>>2807317>As a Liberal myselfi aint readin allat
>>2807318I give a TL;DR at the end.
>>2807320where did you blow in from
>>2807321I've been here since the 8chan days.
>>2806625all thumbs are fingers, therefore all fingers are thumbs
>>2804924that is unreasonably funny
>>2807349Ron Paul Maoism isn't just a meme. A lot of them were ex libertarians and believe that it's easy to convert libertarians to communism by stripping away idealism.
>>2807349incels of the world, unite!
>>2807349Everything they possibly can wrong.
>>2807568>>2807349I don't think haz and the ACP is that bad tbh
>>2807349>taking the libertarian kayfabe at face valueI thought the only benefit of being irrelevant is that then you could be as pure and pedantic as you wanted
>>2807634It’s another marginal wing of the democratic party
>>2807349Honestly I don't see a problem with limited, short term collaboration on specific issues, even with lolberts. If the Libertarian Party organized a campaign against the war in Iran, or to cut all aid to Israel, should communists not participate just because its the lolberts doing it?
>>2807687they are con-people.
>>2807812Why is Agent Kochinski the face of atheism?
>>2807892No wonder know-it-all boomers get relentlessly scammed online
They just don't 'get it' when it comes to computers
>>2807892>writes novel>thinks its a revolutionary original piece of art>actually is the sub par trash an LLM was trained withwhat a genius
>>2807892>>2807949reading between the lines he prompted claudette to pump out a novel for him. this is why writing is dog shit these days.
>>2807634Haz's problem is that he's a moron. Like, he's obviously read Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin, but his understanding of them is so fundamentally contrary to everything they were actually saying that I can only assume he's illiterate and cued his way through everything. His butchering of materialism alone is so goddamn embarrassing that, in a sane world, it would have been enough to immediately discredit him in the eyes of everyone with a functioning frontal lobe right out the gate.
Even if we take Haz's thought as its own thing, distinct from Marxism-Leninism, it's still complete mental mush. The reason it's so hard to formulate a full-on attack against Hazism is not that it's airtight, but because it's an incoherent, inconsistent sludge that is in constant flux between nostalgia for a nonexistent version of the Soviet Union depicted in American propaganda, a revival of 18th century Romanticism, right-wing "neoreacitionary" futurism a-la Curtis Yarvin, hardcore Christian theocracy, Randian libertarianism, Lassallean democratic socialism, and postmodern philosophical naval-gazing. A good faith debate is impossible when there is nothing of substance to debate.
The problem with the ACP generally is that it's full of people who go along with Haz's brain damage. If you're in the ACP, it means that you're either unaware of Haz's "ideology", unaware of core Marxist-Leninist theory, retarded enough to think that Haz is actually saying something of value, or cynical enough not to give a shit. In any case, it reflects pretty poorly on everyone involved.
>>2808037>Even if this were trueWhich it objectively is. His streams, tweets, blog posts, and YouTube videos are all out there for anyone to read and/or watch.
>it's still 100x better than queer-trans-bipoc-sakaism and its hold over the left since OWS.That's the same logic people use when they want to push you to vote Democrat. Haz still sucks dick regardless.
>>2808048Wow… Christians read a book therefore reading books is just like Christianity…. this is so enlightening.
>>2808176zigger final form
>>2807889> be king of atheism> still go to church> OD on heart meds and talk to LLM for three days> OMG I have met robot godmeanwhile zoomers…
> claude count to 200 please< certainly… 1, 2, 12, thirteen, 67, 200 done!> u fucked up< I understand how you might think that >>2808048this ghoul being insanely weathy is why I love BE vibe checking everyone.
>>2808233I don't doubt it at all. Similar things have been happening for decades. I've seen traveling hobo kids getting poisoned by food handed to them by rent-a-cops and cops setting fires to squats in the middle of the night. Reliable dope dealers disappearing and a new dealer just happening to show up who turns out to be slanging fatal hot shots. All kinds of shady shit goes on in the streets of big cities that only people who are constantly on the street are able to observe. Under the dictatorship of Capital people who can't/won't contribute to the valorization of Capital are nothing more than excess population to put down.
There's also the historical precedent: the non-booj colonist population of the Americas was made up of european lumpen who were abducted and forced onto the boats to become indentured servants if the managed to survive the trip. They didn't sign up for that shit.
>>2808225I mean the stuff with Dawkins is very funny true, but he hasn't been 'the face of atheism' in a decade
>>2808360What a scumbag. Though perhaps the law itself is responsible. If a piece of land is 'ownerless' then it obviously should become property of the state
>>2808369Wow, I'm definitely going to take advice from someone who is involved with a social democratic party that controls 11/150 seats in the Netherlands
>>2808360Why doesn't the state just kill him? These are the types of people that should most likely be put to death in my opinion. Not even a death penalty just an extra judicial killing. It's not because he's necessarily dangerous just annoying and makes the state look like a chump.
>>2808176Is this from when they met with the lolberts?
>>2808382Damn ok, you got me, that's bit more legit
>>2808382this fossil is calling newfag-anon a 'dumb cunt' when his uninformed opinion is closer to the truth than your "informed" take rooted in careerist cynicism (bet you think communist praxis is voting every four years and buying Temu)
Rich of you to say when it literally abandoned revolutionary Marxism-Leninism and any hint of MZT for Kautskyite (eurocom) reformist legalism. That is literally what it is known for and why a PSL (right-wing Trot org backed by BRICS capital) front shills it.
>>2808373Your intuition is 100% correct. Don't let this bureaucrat fart-sniffer confuse you.
>>2808225>certainly… 1, 2, 12, thirteen, 67, 200 done!Mr. phi and the other guy who sounds a bit tarded have a field day with the AIs going insane.
>Ok, chatgpt, count the time I'll take to run 10km once I say GO. GO!<good, I'll startten second passes, not even moved a finger>ok, I'm finished with the 10km, how did I do? tell me the time I've spent.<you took 50 minutes to run 10k :D>i-impossible, only ten seconds have passed<I understand how you might feel that only ten seconds have passed, but I guarantee you, you can't run 10k in ten seconds. >>2808497Why do Americans LARP as caring about Ukraine or Russia?
>>2808560They have a lot of assets at stake
>>2808497How big of an event was this supposed to be? Because beneath the autistic war cry of the urah guy, I didn't hear much clapping.
>>2808648You only zoom in on the one speaking like this if attendance is sparse, that's for sure.
>>2808176I'm going to need a few more camera angles to determine whether Haz got crowdmogged somewhere in Europe.
>>2808284that's fucking grim. is anyone investigating this shit?
>>2808233You mean aside from the typical social murder the liberal order inflicts upon them on a day-to-day basis?
>>2807889Didn’t Dawkins basically cut his teeth debating young earth creationists? Like the dude wasn’t exactly some deep thinker IIRC; he was kind of doing the Charlie Kirk thing of making yourself look smarter by debating dumbasses.
>>2808976yeah, the vid is going over poisonings and white van abductions.
>>2808995I mean he's an evolutionary biologist, afaik he has legitimate scientific contributions
>>2808995>>2809042The only thing that really predicts LLM resistance is experiencing it when it was really stupid and nothing else existed (GPT-3). Otherwise it just randomly induces psychosis regardless of education.
>>2809194disgraceful, even for obese redneck white track MAGAts
>>2809262>This video was blocked in your country Fuuuuck
>>2809194This is AI right?
>>2809042I think I should clarify that I believe you can be intelligent in different things; a good example is how Ben Carson is evidently an accomplished Neurosurgeon but also believes bizarre pseudo biblical history. Dawkins is an accomplished scientist, but he isn’t some brilliant philosopher. I wouldn’t trust him to determine if the chatbot has consciousness
>>2809424this happens with engineers who think because they mastered building bridges or pipelines go into other fieldns and become crackpots
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/738673342Some parts of this is black pilling but if mainstream games become chud you can just point out that chuds are basic bitches and thus they lose their punk rock cred. Then again this thread in general seems to be very much out of alignment with reality but gamergate 2.0 is still going to be a major factor in the midterms at the very least. Thus why I post this here.
>>2809272yeah, it's AI. maga can't into rap.
>>2809477There's been like 15 different "GamerGate 2.0s" since like 2017 and none of them have had any effect in IRL politics.
>>2809437Don't know why this is being hated on. I thought this board LOVED dengism. This is real dengism in practice.
>>2809524Chinese billionaires and petit booj good.
AmeriKKKan billionaires and petit booj bad.
Simple as.
>>2809437>I'm a communist because I say comrade over and overZero substance to any of this.
>>2808048why do people insist on having a take on everything
you can just be that youtuber who makes essays about cultural bullshit
we don't need to hear your hot takes on things you know nothing about, and claim to have no interest in yet keep speaking about
staying in your lane is so much easier and makes you so much more likable generally speaking
(this isn't to say you can't speak out against injustice/etc)
>>2809437This would get him a seat at the National People's Congress
>>2809437>I became a communist because muh taxesNo one tell him
>>2809437at least he's withholding taxes from the bourgeois state
>>2809437Dear ACP retards, the reason we call you fascists is not because you have the "wrong" opinions on idpol issues, or because your Edgy New Attitude is too based sigma redpill truthnuke for us feeble minded leftoids to handle, it's because the class content of everything you've ever said, though or done has had infinitely more in common with ᴉuᴉlossnW than it has Stalin, let alone Marx, Engels, or Lenin, and we are not "purity fetishists" for pointing that out.
If your propaganda is designed to appeal to the attitudes of MAGA, a movement driven by the grievance politics of the petite bourgeois and the false consciousness of class-aspirational members of the American working class, you're going to have a party with a petite bourgeois class consciousness. If your funding model is built around money generated by the business endeavors of the petite bourgeois members of your party, you're going to have a party with petite bourgeois class interests. If you start a "communist" party where most of the key founding members are professional internet faggots (petite bourgeois), you're going to have a party that is petite bourgeois.
You have created something that is, not only at a cultural level but even moreso a structural one, designed to attract a large petite bourgeois membership, and to engender a petite bourgeois consciousness generally. And no matter how much you deny it, no matter how many times you say that the Nazis were actually lumpen or whatever other nonsensical cope you pull out of your ass, the class interests of the "revolutionary" segment of the petite bourgeois are in favor of fascism. They don't want to eliminate the social relations of capital, to do away with private property, or to have a revolutionary reconstitution of society, they want to eliminate competition from big capital, to hold on to their own private property, and to go retvrn to the good old days before Walmart came into town.
Enjoy whatever successes you may have, just know they are successes in building fascism, not communism, or anything remotely close to it.
>>2809708What do you mean by the revolutionary segment of the petite bourgeoisie?
>>2809710I put it in quotation marks for a reason. It's members of the petite bourgeois who want democratic socialism enacted violently and in a way that indulges their grievance politics, rather than peacefully via gradual reforms.
>>2809712Ok, I understand how that may be related to their grievance politics but why does that favor fascism?
>>2809492>>2809194>>2809272I'm actually having a hard time telling if this is AI or not, the piggies look very stereotypical but not too cartoony, people like this exist and walk the street, the dude in the back that is not as fat looks very real too.
>>2809437>owner operator who only does it to make more money by denying the imperialist state their tax money>no employees whose labor he is exploiting>offering mutual aid for up to five hours away for free (this is a 14-16 hour day plus a couple of hundred dollars in gas to get there, work, and get back.)>truck, house, and dog is on credit.how is this guy peitie bourgeois?
>>2809807scary as fuck, first time I fell for it, I don't like it.
>>2809819I've always been under the impression that he considered the self employed to be members of the petite bourgeois even when they aren't employing others, although it is possible that I'm. But even if he wasn't part of the petite bourgeois, he would still have very similar class interests to them.
>>2809826It's always fascinating to go into the replies on Haz's tweets, because 99.99 % of them come from the same 20 or so people, all glazing the fuck out of him. Of the remaining. 01%, they tend to be generally unfavorable to him.
>>2809819That literally is just petit-bourgeois (the more progressive section of the petit-bourgeois tho)
The ACP being a cringefest and yet the most successful racially leftist org on American soil in the last 50 years says a lot about American leftists.(Hazoid)
>>2809437See, of course a petty bourgeois can be a communist. In fact, in some cases alliances with the progressive sections of the petty bourgeoisie can be necessary under a capitalism that has taken the form of rentier finance imperialism - state-monopoly capitalism so to speak, with classes and societal stratas being managed, disciplined and played out against each other. Like, some unionized industrial worker might in many cases be better off than the owner of a barber shop. Of course, the petty bourgeoisie is predisposed towards a false consciousness, fearing proletarization, but objective particular interests might align.
But this guy, he gives off some really untrustworthy vibes. The whole reason for him starting a business is "because taxes". I am not even hating on the dude, but he seems to just be a libertarian, an ideological demographic Haz was aiming for since the very beginning.
>>2809850>It's always fascinating to go into the replies on Haz's tweets, because 99.99 % of them come from the same 20 or so people, all glazing the fuck out of him. Of the remaining. 01%, they tend to be generally unfavorable to him.And it's not organic. I still lurk on their Discord servers. Every single Tweet is announced and posted everywhere, telling everyone to like comment, like and retweet. For that effort, the glazing is actually not even that hefty. People who are not outright in the ACP sphere and are just online tend to view them as an anathema.
>>2809850Self employed should be considered under the same terms as aristocrat or artisans, most don't make enough to support themselves solely off the Labour alone, but as you go up the income bracket they tend to hire more and more people.
It would be wrong to consider a YouTuber with 200 subscribers on the same level as Mr beast for example.
I’ve been spamming Marx threads on /lit/ for a few weeks now. Getting burnt out. Will pick up again in a few days
>>2807325>>2807322it's Smith Anon, he lives in the political economy threads. He's real. He's a lib but he's an honest to God real person from the UK.
>>2809524>>2809530China has billionaire, yes
China has petti booj, yes
USA has billionaire, yes
USA has petti booj, yes
but only America has 800 offshore military bases and did dozens of coups to prevent communism, socialism, social democracy, or even basic bourgeois economic sovereignty, mostly against third world countries, but even sometimes in places like Australia.
>>2809900They aren't as successful as they would like you to believe, but insofar as they are, see
>>2809708. They are, objectively, a fascist party. Their successes are successes in fascism, not communism.
China will either push the socialist button in two more weeks or it will take over the US empire just like the US took over the UK. We all know which one is more likely to happen
>>2810015What do you think “fascism” is?
>>2809992>China has billionaire, yes>China has petti booj, yes>USA has billionaire, yes>USA has petti booj, yespeople really need to do per capita stuff to dismiss the first two.
How does someone go from socialist to fascist like ᴉuᴉlossnW did?
>>2810064He must have gotten rejected by a mid communist girl he thought would be easy pickings only for her to be fucking a cop anyway.
another wikipedia account banned for my relentless "vandalism" of the bordiga page (actually just re-adding the garfield meme over and over again)
Anyone willing to carry the torch? It's really funny to annoy wikipedia editors
>>2810015>They are, objectively, a fascist partythey are not
fascists yet, they are trying a new red-brown alliance re-edition.
the ropedman believed in a small state, only the police, military and basic political stuff. also fascism is vey close to imperialism.
>>2810022Read the Haz tweet attached to
>>2809708 and you already have a pretty good idea.
To explain in my own words, Fascism is the bad cop to Keynesianism's good cop. Like Keynesianism, it's an attempt to stabilize capital, to preserve its social relations in the face of crisis and to roll back the clock to an earlier stage. Unlike Keynesianism, it does so with open, blunt force, abandoning liberalism and enacting strong state control in order to purge undesirable elements of society in a very blunt, aggressive way.
What exactly this looks like in practice really depends on the specific situation, because fascism isn't so much a concrete, coherent ideology as it is a particularly aggressive immune response from capital, although ideological eclecticism and nationalist appeals to tradition and social cohesion are common.
>>2809530>>2809989The interesting thing to me is how this sort of vulgar Stalinism comes to resemble the rigid "Protestant" ethic. During the Stalin period there was a shift towards rigid discipline in work and an authoritarian sexual morality in personal affairs and emphasis on the family within the framework of the need to rapidly catch up with more advanced countries (and also to prepare for war) as the USSR found itself isolated given the failure of revolutions in Europe. Herbert Marcuse thought the humanist values that were supposed to be attached to the end of this long road became ritualized into ideology, while the values attached to the means became the real governing values and thus an end in themselves. But with the ACP they are very direct that they see the means as constituting communist ideology, which shares a resemblance to traditional Western "petit-bourgeois" values at earlier stages, which people also internalized as their own values.
To really get people to internalize these values, it doesn't do to just refer to the requirements of society. They have to appear as not imposed on them but flowing from their own ideal nature so obedience is instinctual and automatic (i.e. if you don't submit to discipline then you're a faggot).
Protestantism is when annoying street preachers
Catholocism is when you have a shrine to the Virgin Mary
Orthodox is when Warhammer 40k aesthetics
>>2810232Clearly Protestantism is the weakest of the three. By far. Too bad it's so popular.
>>2810100Fascism's proximity to imperialism is really just an extension of higher-stage capitalist imperialism generally. It's not a defining trait of fascism itself.
>>2810242Less popular than you'd think outside of the Anglo world.
>>2810100>>2810253 (me)
Also, ᴉuᴉlossnW liked spouting ideological word salad because he was a midwit, and Haz does something very similar. In order to understand what they think, you need to look at the totality of their espoused views, looking for the most common threads rather than individual statements.
>>2810019neither stated nor implied. not my goalpost.
>>2809896I don't understand this. Why? I understand that if you have employees, you are exploiting their labor for your own gain (usually this doesn't amount to much. There's a truism that small business owners make about 35k a year, but they like not having a boss.) This is how I understand the petite bourgeoisie. Why does entering into contracts rather than being employed make you petite bourgeoisie if you don't have employees. It just makes no sense to me.
>>2810247I mean the CIA has done this shit all the time with leftist movements so I'm not surprised that Mossad does the same with anti-Zionist movements.
I'm not sure exactly what you're supposed to do about it. (I'm not watching your video btw.)
>>2810253LatAm is increasingly becoming prot
>>2809708>"bankers are anti-human"Haz lecturing when he's a generic Joe Rogan radlib who hasn't heard any ideas expressed in Marx's Capital volume 3
>they to retvrn to the good old days before Walmart came into town.They aren't scientific materialist socialism, they are idealist utopians who will inevitably go Hitlerite when their euphoric dreams fade under the harsh light of God. The American Communist Party reminds me of that Iranian cleric throwing shade: "there are no heroes in America who we could assassinate in revenge because their role models are like SpongeBob". The ACP has no scientists or engineers who study (Chinese!) contemporary science, because they are not real communists who are the class of people that are desperately hungry to feed and clothe their family and friends. The ACP are just the left wing of JD Vanceling cultural critic armchair pseuds. They are literal television characters!
>>2810203Dear enemy, its been a while since we talked. How are you doing?
One thing that seems implicit in much of your posts that I want to respond to is the idea that socialism, or material/industrial progress, will tend towards producing a libertinist/libertarian social/cultural outlook or moral framework.
I think this is just plain false. Socialism is neither inherently libertarian, conservative, traditionalist, or any other specific cultural outlook. Its worker common ownership & control of the means of production.
Ergo, I think its perfectly logically coherent that you be advocate (or at least tolerant of) for various things traditionally considered vices & plentiful consumerist tendencies. However, it is also logically coherent to be radically opposed to the allowance of such vices & to think of certain kinds of austere living to be virtuous (Obviously not austerity in the laissez-faire capitalistic sense of deprivation of clean water, balanced diet, housing, healthcare, etc.)
>>2810392True and Authentic Gay Nazi > Moralfag
>>2810387if your paid a wage its like hourly pay salary is monthly or whatever so like if your a waiter you get paid a wage not a salary
>>2810332fortunately not so. the children of evangelical are being more irreligious. hopefuel
Explain women in video games then
Up yours, woke moralists! We'll see who cancels who!
>>2810464This person seems to be just complaining that lib-leaning SJWs got conflated with left-leaning SJWs, but that doesn't mean that woke didn't exist or that Tumblr SJWs didn't exist.
>>2810469unironically end yourself
>>2810469These women are plain not ugly
And that’s great.
I tire of women always being portrayed as either super hot or cartoonish pretty or ugly
Plainness is underrated
>>2810470Vegeta’s forehead makes a good splash pad for my load
>>2810469Most of those aren't even ugly, just black/brown
>>2810474They don’t mean skin tones they mean the shape and sizes of facial features
No they existed man. You can literally google research papers from peak woke era talking about how owning pet is settler colonial. If woketards want to pull this shit they should not complain if groypers do the same shit 6 years from now and claim that the very real nonsense we see coming from xitter was just "bigfoot sightings" all along
>>2810476 (cont.)
Well, i don't think most of them are straight up cognitive dissonance. I think it's more of a result of living in a bubble. It's the same thing when you ask oldfags what old 4chan looked like. You often don't realize how absurd and stupid your surroundings were
>>2810475Yeah sure they do…
>>2810478Bruh there’s white samples in there as well
Chuds do jack off to black/brown women contrary to what wokescolds tell you
In fact, chuds base their racism off of seeing ethnic men as competition
Their racism will only to women if said women aren’t drop dead gorgeous
OP is this dumb.
Woke existed just like it’s counterpart
>>2810464Ok post some non-woke opinons here or any other left forum and see what happens.
>>2810482Woke seems to celebrate “minorities” by virtue of their status rather than their character
Antiwoke celebrates “majorities” by virtue of their status rather than their character
>>2810483>Woke seems to celebrate “minorities” by virtue of their status rather than their characterNazis celebrated being whites just because of their whiteness. Were they woke?
>>2810484Yes.
Right wing woke
>>2810476>research papers from peak woke era talking about how owning pet is settler colonial.That's just sociology. Science doesn't care about your feelings unless it's a field particularly about them like ergonomics.
>the very real nonsense we see coming from xitterThat's an oxymoron. The platform itself is designed to incentivize nonsense, thus everything that happens there is in context of the nonsense.
>>2810486> That's just sociology. Science doesn't care about your feelings unless it's a field particularly about them like ergonomics.This.
Leftypol seems to have devolved into spiteful lib antics
This place was not leftist much to begin with but it’s really become a whole lot less leftist
>>2810464You've clearly never been in a university lol, you'll find plenty of woke types there.
>>2810488I'm currently attending one and no, I haven't.
>>2810489In the humanities ? People overblow the woke thing, but they definitly exist there, I've had to deal with quite a few crazies.
>>2810488I've encountered one, she was cliqued up with a group of girls and I was the outsider and I felt like I had to watch what I said, it was strangely weird like I was a potential heretic
>>2810490Woke isn’t generally overheated neonhaired landwhale dykes
It mainly is just revisionist history lessons
>>2810491The most notable encounter I had was when someone who barely knew me going around saying I wanted to rape her because of the way I looked at her, the local university leftist student's union was defending her, called them a bunch of cunts on twitter, they called the cops over this and I deleted the comments, Covid came and everyone forgot about this, she never said sorry or gave any reason as to why she was going around saying this shit.
>>2810492True, I studied in history and while most teachers were fine, I did have a pretty crazy one that didn't think history students should learn about WW1 and 2 (In france half the people studying history become teachers, this was very unfair for those who wanted to pass the hard exams for this) and instead taught a bunch of weird pseudoscience stuff like how women are smaller because they eat less meat. She also voted for Macron, lmfao.
>>2810493Most woke lessons is often glazing women in general for having outlier moments in badassery.
Especially if said women are ethnic.
They also tend to mock and patronize men for any nuances or natural disadvantages
But God forbid that you point out womens disadvantages
>>2810464>Woke never existedliterally the first scene in The Boondocks, which was made 20 years ago:
<"Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about 9/11"Huey is a post-Black Panthers Maoist youth (descended from the first explicitly 'woke' cultural revolution of Norman Finkelstein people) who is then immediately scolded by his bourgeois boomer grandpa who tells him "you better not even dream of telling white people the truth! Making white people riot…you better learn how to lie like me"
>>2810488>You've clearly never been in a university lol, you'll find plenty of woke types there.Harvard and MIT gave offices to Jeffrey Epstein because PMC liberals were fascinated by his nazi eugenics female cattle breeding science research in New Mexico:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jeffrey-epstein-studying-evolution-helps-with-understanding-of-medicine-179077591.html >>2810494Man, thats so old fashionned, nowadays any manly woman in history gets called trans. pure presentism…
>>2810497Historical revisionism at work
>>2810482I may be operating on a private definition, but for me "woke" is a mostly artificial and performative acknowledgement of social issues and a mostly aesthetic attempt to appear radical, often primarily through identity issues.
For instance, instead of making a documentary or historical drama based on the history of Africa or Asia, make a show about European history and race-swap the historically white European figures with various racial minorities and maybe have them make little quips alluding to modern social politics. That's my idea of corporate woke.
>>2810501And let’s not forget the master-slave relations that are toxic but it’s given a thumbs up by woke bitches because the characters are hot.
And what’s even more interesting is that some of these woke shows have alt right associations
>>2810464>Woke never existed and the sooner you can accept that, the sooner you can be fully rid of idpol brainworms.Shut the fuck up. You're right that it's not unique. it's left-liberalism as the counter part to the hysterical conservatives that wanted to ban everything and get you fired for making them feel offended in the 2000s.
>>2810499Would you believe me if I told you that the artist is pro-cop
>>2810504This isn't a satirical meme ?
>>2810464>pretending tumblr sjw don't exist while posting from your transfeminism tumblr accountlol
>>2810297The self employed actually technically fall into a bunch of different classes depending on the specifics of what they're doing and how they're doing it, but for the sake of praxis, they can be treated more or less interchangeably, which is why Marx didn't spend a whole ton of time on them outside of saying that they were typically reactionary.
In general, even when they aren't technically petite bourgeois, the class interests of the self-employed are still broadly similar enough to the petite bourgeois that they can be treated interchangeably. The self-employed are individualists who want to preserve their status as self-employed, to preserve their "independence" at any and all costs. They are not interested in joining the proletariat, and as such are not interested in a socio-economic paradigm that promises to proletarianize everyone. I can say on my own end that I've known people like the fag in
>>2809437, and they would, for the most part, rather starve to death than "lose" and become members of the proletariat.
The natural political position of the self-employed is, depending on their level of success, either democratic socialism, Keynesianism, or fascism. In any case, their desire is to roll back the wheel of history to a time when capitalism was more favorable to self-employment. They are no friends of ours.
>>2810326Whenever I think of book worship, this is the sort of thing that comes to mind. There's too much focus on the literal words Marx wrote, not enough focus on what ideas those words were trying to communicate, let alone analysis of said ideas.
>>2810487To be fair, the original purpose of 8/leftypol/ (remember when the sticky referenced Orwell in a positive light?) was to be "leftist politically incorrect". From the very start, it was going to attract a very specific kind of chantard.
>>2810392>Dear enemy, its been a while since we talked. How are you doing?I'm doing good, thanks for asking.
>is the idea that socialism, or material/industrial progressIsn't it really about social emancipation? Material/industrial progress is a means to free people up from drudgery and poverty but what I'm saying is that I think it's getting confused as an end in itself which can end up mirroring (ironically) a bourgeois ideological framing. What every finance bro teaches after all is to delay gratification and reinvest and so forth, even the aesthetics of that bourgeois sort of culture (also look at Palantir) is actually quite austere in a way. It was the bourgeoisie who made things look rather drab and Spartan. Historically the bourgeoisie has driven forward material/industrial progress as well and that's why Marx saw them playing a progressive role at one point. Maybe they still are, idk.
>will tend towards producing a libertinist/libertarian social/cultural outlook or moral framework.There is a serious historical case that material/industrial progress does do that. At least as a tendency. Like there are more permissive sexual attitudes today, weaker religious authorities, all that church/village/patriarchical stuff got thrown into a shredding machine. I think it's an uneven and contradictory process and people try to resist it though.
>Ergo, I think its perfectly logically coherent that you be advocate (or at least tolerant of) for various things traditionally considered vices & plentiful consumerist tendencies. Idk, I've been critical of excessive consumerism (part of the problem is that you need a lot of money to enjoy it and then maybe you realize you're not having any fun anyways). I'm not endorsing compulsive gambling or sex or binge eating, that's just decadence. This is something we need to do think about. Also another thing is obsessive status seeking.
>However, it is also logically coherent to be radically opposed to the allowance of such vices & to think of certain kinds of austere living to be virtuous (Obviously not austerity in the laissez-faire capitalistic sense of deprivation of clean water, balanced diet, housing, healthcare, etc.)It's coherent sure. I don't know about an intrinsic virtue though. I would say "historically necessary" under certain conditiosn but even the Soviet Union would say the point of all that building socialism was to increase happines and make life more fun:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_has_become_better >>2810534Man you missed the uberization bullshit, many people are now "self employed" because it's the only form of employment they can get to put food on the table. I am and I would take a factory job where I can collectively bargain instead of being let go by my megacorp "client" on their whims without any safety net if I could find one. Being self employed is just being a precarized proletarian with 19th century tier regulations for many, many people now.
Now that woke is dead, I kind of wonder when AAA games are going to start to pander to chuds. They are already starting to slide AI shit into their slop.
>>2810563simp KING pays camgirl to be repulsed by him
>>2810558It really does depend on the specific situation. Class analysis is in the abstract is difficult and of limited utility, because there's a zillion different variables to consider, and if we were to have an exact catagory for everything, the number of classes would expload beyond the point of usefulness.
With that said, an Uber driver, in the abstract, is probably best described as part of the proletariat. Regardless of what the law says, they are consistently employed by Uber, and Uber is exploiting them. If, on the other hand, they were to make money directly from the people they were driving around, with no middleman or employer, they would not be proletariat, because there is no exploitation involved, regardless of how much money they make. It sounds like a small difference, but it has an enormous impact on class interests, which are, ultimately, the main thing we should be looking at when translating theory to praxis.
I don't know enough of the specifics of the ACP guy's situation to know for sure how to categorize him, but from the way he talks about what he does, the way he describes himself as a small businessman, I get the impression he's much closer to my if-on-the-other-hand example than the hypothetical Uber driver, someone who works
with clients, sure, but at bottom, works
for himself.
>>2810563A year of corrective labour and brainwashing would turn everyone in this video into hard-working socialists.
>>2810573>Class analysis is in the abstract is difficultI've been making a greater effort to proofread my posts, but for whatever reason, typos keep slipping in anyway.
>>2810563>Guy spends 100k to meet Alice Rosenblum from OnlyFans, only so that she is visibly repulsed by him.I do not condone the Epstein or sexpat stuff, but at least those people have a grounded understanding of the power dynamics involved, in exploiting them. This dork is a literal simp who not only has committed the mortal sin of
paying for porn. But somehow, this man has transcended the loser spectrum and developed feelings for a whore he pays money to… and doesn't get to have sex with. You can't even lay blame on thinking with one's dick. He's just fucked in the head (heh).
>>2810260I think you could judge APC more for their actions, then.
>>2810563that dude didn't pay any money it's all fake it's staged come on bro.
99% of onlyfans income comes from money laundering, there aren't millions of men spending all their paychecks on random women, it's all drug dealers or criminals making their money back, like the people who buy those blank canvass paintings.
>>2810751Y'know, I didn't even think about it at all but I 100% believe you.
>>2810778everyone should just stop watching the news and DO SOMETHING
<do… what exactlySHUT UP, DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW, GIVE A HOMELESS GUY 5 DOLLARS, RECYCLE, GO FOR A WALK, THAT WILL TOTALLY MAKE DONALD TRUMPS HEAD EXPLODE INTO A MILLION PIECES AND DISBAND ISRAEL, I SWEAR
>>2810782I mean he's right though, you actually doing something practical to help someone else will do more good for the world than 5 years of being a dedicated news addict and the most informed guy ever
>>2810778Got a whole ass degree but wont get a job kinda video.
>>2810662>>2810932>>2810569Yes the guy is a fucking idiot and he wasted a ton of money but did she really have to wipe her hand like that and also feel fucking
terrified of him just because he wasn't a white Chad even with security around to kill him if he steps out of line jfc.
>>2810913Those weak arms could rip open a potato chip bag
>>2810940he clearly has cooties. it's a natural response
>>2810941>Those weak arms could rip open a potato chip bagYou underestimate his hand-strength.
>>2810914Bro probably makes more money making these videos than 90% of humanities majors who actually have "serious" jobs.
>>2810563Bro could have bought like 50 escorts twice as hot with that money. Even when being a gooner you still need to be smart about the kinda sluts you pay for.
>>2811018He talks in a funny way. Sounds like a lolcow
>>2810668See
>>2809708. Rhetoric is a form of action, and is in fact 90% of the ACP's action currently. But even if it wasn't, their non-rhetorical action has been directed at building a petite bourgeois party with petite bourgeois class interests and class consciousness.
>>2810942Why can't you admit you're just a misandrist.
>>2810978Because the dumbass caught feelings for an OF model.
>>2811043its misandry for men to make fun of inferior men? beta male excuse
What the OFFICIAL opinion of LeftyPol on President Sunday?
>>2811044Maybe. He's probably not that inferior If he really had 100k to give to some thot. He's probably not that great of a person but he's at least good at accumulating money considering how bad many people are at keeping money. Oh well not every guy can be a player or a chad.
>>2811067>but he's at least good at accumulating money from dads bank account yeah
>>2810469People who play vydia are called gamers, people who make vids sperguing about transhumanists and woke on vydia are called goy. I rest my case.
>>2811133representatives of world dengism
>>2810977What ad, you butthurt happooner?
>>2811018honestly it's so sad that he's so attention starved he's suing idubbz, literally the last noticeable person online who still regularly acknowledges ethan's existence
>>281091330 minutes? pass
>>2811246Bro should sue Bad Empanada so both can get rich off the drama.
>>2809194Definitely AI, can tell from the misspelling on the banner on the back.
>>2810973No, Ishidia is a nazi retard. and he is so obsessed with Europe for some reason. We already have a thread about him in siberia.
>>2810940stop falling for gender war ragebait, everything is staged for clicks, use your brain and stop being a chud that doesn't think
>>2811133it's actually more people.
I'd call it 'the grovel gang', performing: the Chinese century with 1000 thousand years of humiliation for America.
>>2810549
>Isn't it really about social emancipation? Material/industrial progressI structured the sentence you sre referring to in a faulty way. I meant to day "socialism, or AT LEAST material/industrial progress" to show that you think at least the latter of these things (if not both), will tend to libertinism did not mean to say that the latter is equivalent to the former.
>There is a serious historical case that material/industrial progress does do that. At least as a tendency.You see, my own claim is that this a faulty extrapolation of the later of the 20th century, which was dominated by a relatively libertinist/libertarian imperial power, with social liberal & social democratic programs (combined to colonialism) producing an enlarged petite-bourgeoisie & labour aristocracy.
Increases in material wealth is necessary but not sufficient to live out increased libertinist lifestyles.
>It's coherent sure. I don't know about an intrinsic virtue though.I want to make this clear, contra accusations of moralism, that my meta-ethical view is non-cognitivist. Ergo the concept of INTRINSIC virtue is nonsensical to me.
This why I refer to you (and many, many others to be sure) simply as my enemy and not as "evil" (or some such moralistic terminology). Though I hate you with a zeal that far surpasses that of any religious fanatic, I need not, nor make any, appeal to god, nature or intrinsicality.
Our normative foundations & their imperative implications are simply incompatible.
>>2810563daaaaamn what an incel
how many weeks until China becomes socialist?
>>2811454I’m still waiting on them to become Chinese, let alone socialist
>>2811454>>2811455how many weeks until taiwan becomes china?
>>2810563is that the guy with the youtube channel fixing writeoff exotic cars?
>>2811467Taiwan is more useful like it is now, this way the prc leadership can jingle keys in front of nationaloids about how they will totally take it back one day somehow and get upvotes from the plebs
rebuild the kowloon walled city i say
>>2810751yyyeah, it might be staged as well.
I am sure many ukrainian OF 'actresses' are money laundering the corruption schemes from kiev.
>>2810495>"Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about 9/11"Replace black with brown and that's 100% true.
>>2811591kek
Nick is such a spiteful fagg
>>2811572I will never defend chinese capitalism
>chudthebuilder has raised 60k on gofundme
very cool, how do we convince the right wing to attack their own and calls them grifters like the left does to our own people? Because I've raised less than 4k and that's been a pretty consistent thing!
>>2811610well maybe you should go take out some rightoid, then we would know you're legit right?
>>2811572ACK-shually, it was moved to 203~ something. I don't remember correctly. 2038? 2037?
>>2811435Typographical error on my part again, I meant to say "powers" in the plural. I consider the euro-american transatlantic powers to be highly convergent in terms of their libertinist (individualist, consumerist, etc.) attitudes.
And I strongly agree that even the traditionalist manifestations are overwhelmingly lifestylist/consumerist cooption & perversion.
The past at the very least led to the present. Ergo a non-libertinist future cannot simply replicate caricatures of prior forms. It must create a new culture that may be similar in some respects but is ultimately different.
There is no guarantee that future will be yours.
The individual must be abolished.
>>2811648
Fucking slow down
>Meanwhile, I'm facing 15 years in prison for
what the hell did you do
>>2810913I think she wants him
I stand 10 toes deep that I am a better man pound for pound than any right winger and i live that shit. i do not need the money, i do not need the celebrity, i need to see my people better than they are, and that is the difference. I'm not an idiot, I know they rich control the narrative, I know that there are wealthy power players seeding these donations. I will not be convinced by this psyop bullshit. These modern lynchers will not win, they simply lack the character to do so, no amount of hollow dollars will change that. Fuck em. The difference between them and me is that every dollar donated was from a worker, every dollar of solidarity was from someone who struggled to get it. Might be less money but each dollar is soaked in more sweat. We do more with less, that's always been the case. They want to put me in a cell, fuck em. The work doesn't stop no matter how many tons of concrete surround a motherfucker. Born for it. Will die for it. No doubt about it.
>>2811725the FBI came and picked him up because they knew that this shit was gonna happen. One reason they are worried is that Tennessee has strong stand your ground laws and they know how it's gonna play out.
>>2811605>>2811725We need to ruin this mfs life bro. This shit can't go unpunished…
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>>2811740Well he's 100% gonna get off because he's a famous right-wing streamer and Tennessee isn't Minnesota. Trump will probably personally pardon him even and you'll see him on the campaign trail in 2028.
I'm just hoping the fact this happened in May means we'll get another Summer of Floyd with people all over the country burning shit to the ground in protest. That shit was so cash.
>>2811748There was a previous case like it and even in spite of that the guy got like a manslaughter charge. Never even heard of chud the builder tho and Florida is probably even chuddier than Tennessee is.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49459855 >>2811745assassinate Nick Fuentes
>>2811754>Never even heard of chud the builder thohe streamed on twitter and pump.fun which is some weird crypto-infused streaming site where streamers represent their own coin and viewers can invest in it or something? idk this is the first time I'm hearing of it.
his content was just going around in public ragebaiting black people into attacking him and hurling racial slurs at random people on the street.
>>2811725news outlets are saying he shot himself in the arm?
>>2811765yeah he was booked into the hospital for a self-inflicted gunshot wound. chuddie can't even do a shooting without self-destructing lol.
>>2811768
idunno I'm willing to amplify this race war just because it might cause mass protests and violence against the state. this is the last thing MAGA needs having to manage mass domestic unrest while losing a war.
>>2811778her nudes are pretty good i've wanked to them a few times
They do not want another summer of love, to the point where they will bring him up on hate crime charges and make it a federal case, but honestly people aren't going to do shit. Put me in the screencap.
>>2811795Why a lot of chvdcels have copied the looks of early 2010s gay hipsters?
>>2811246It's bad enough that he's a physically repulsive, histrionic, tic-ridden moron as a person. But no, he has to make everything in his life about Zionism, too. He keeps thinking that he'll catch some Ziocuck windfall by talking like the most disingenuous liberal-Zio.
People want to change the channel. No more getting admonished by Zionists. No more having to square the ideological circle of liberal bullshit. No more having one's worldview challenged non-consensual-ly. People want to sit back, get told what to do, what to believe, and have it make sense in their pocket of the world.
Zios know that this plays in their favor, because their opposition has no organization whatsoever. So the moment media buries Palestine again, everyone will just be grateful not having to see or care about how the sausage of US hegemony is made. Yet Ethan insists on tying his everything in his life to the outgoing trend, for some reason.
>>2811796I think a lot of them are low-key envious of liberals.
>>2811667I'm about 60% sure this is AI, but Nick's a massive homo, definitely into catboys, and loves dressing up in cringe outfits so I can't actually be sure.
>>2811635stop gooning
>>2811806trash, first pic was way better, get good
https://www.patreon.com/posts/158213669Chud the Builder. Maybe you've heard of him. Here we have a man who has built his entire platform off of performing some of the most antisocial behavior possible. A man who is truly antithetical to the type of masculinity we promote here at HOUDINI Magazine.
At HOUDINI Magazine, we promote a masculinity that's about uplifting people, seeing people better than they are, being a pillar of your community, pro-social behavior. It's counterintuitive to this sort of grifter, right-wing, hustle-bro mentality that has been propagandized to the point where we now have men like this who build their entire platform off of hate.
The right will protect this man, and they will fund this man, and they will say they protect him because they value free speech. As we know, if you follow me, the right wing's hypocrisy about free speech has already been exposed. Otherwise I would not be facing fifteen years in a Florida penitentiary for criticizing a right-wing influencer.
So how did Chud the Builder build his platform, you might be wondering. What does he do? Does he do on-the-street interviews? Is he one of those speed runners? Does he play video games? That's what streaming was originally all about, so maybe that's what he does. No. He builds his platform off of agitation and antisocial behavior.
Tennessee is an open carry state, so he open carries. That's his right in this country. Then he goes around, finds Black people, and calls them slurs for the camera. Imagine you are with your family, your child, your wife, your children, going about your day. You stop into a corner store or gas station to get a drink for you and your kids, get a bug juice for the kiddo. And here we have this streamer who's being paid handsomely by his right-wing sycophants, and he walks up to you and calls you the N-word straight to your face, right in front of your children. But if you say anything back, then you're against his free speech.
Is this the type of behavior we want in our society? Do we, the people, really want a man who believes this is the example to set for his own children? Make no mistake: you may have bought a small pittance for your children, but you haven't secured their future.
Your child is what? And I'm addressing you directly, Mr. Chud. Your child is what? Four? Six? Based on her pictures? Do you think she's going to grow up and look to her father as someone of honor, of courage, of heart, as someone who made the world a better place? Sure, you might be able to pay off your lifted truck with the money you've made off your virtual lynching, off the hate and animosity you've pushed. But you've fundamentally failed as a man, and you've failed as a father. It's really that simple.
Those clips of you doing this antisocial behavior will be replayed over and over and over again for her as she becomes a teenager, as she becomes an adult, as she becomes aware of who you are. She becomes aware that her father is a bigot of the largest degree, if you're still alive by then. I'm no psychiatrist, but the type of behavior you're engaging in is fundamentally antisocial. It's the behavior of a man who wants to die. He doesn't have a good reason for wanting to die. There's something going on inside him that's causing this behavior.
Of course, the antisocial right-wing faction will celebrate you and give you money and make you a martyr. But it's your daughter who has to grow up in that shadow—the shadow of your screams, the shadow of your bigotry. If there’s one thing I do not fuck with it’s a man that don’t take care of his kids.
You claim that's what the fundraiser is for, to protect your family. But if it was really about protecting your family, you wouldn't have engaged in such a vile act of hatred to begin with. You wouldn't have prompted a public response.
I don't have any children. You can't come after my kids for me telling you this. That's intentional. I don't have very much in the way of intimate relationships. That's intentional, because I understand that when you're playing a game of politics, you piss certain people off. That's what happens. But never mind that. Never mind me. Haven't you seen Heat Mr. Chud? If you wanted to be part of the neo-nazi vanguard, you should have considered this quote:
"Do not have any attachments, do not have anything in your life you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner." Mr. Chud, you've been going around every corner looking for the heat!
Mr. Chud, you're twenty-eight years old living in a collapsing economy. You've made $60,000. You've made some good money off Kick streams, we've seen that nice truck, we know those payments aren't cheap!. You think it'll last? We're both about the same age. We've both come up seeing what happens to YouTubers and streamers as they get older, as their brand collapses, as their audience goes away. Some of those YouTubers make content that is much more palatable than what you do. They make content about video games or films, things that most people have some tangible enjoyment of. Still they struggle with longevity, with making money from their content. Your "content"? Let's keep it a buck: the overwhelming majority of the human species does not enjoy hatred. It doesn't enjoy reaction-bait content where you go up to an unsuspecting person and call them something bigoted. I can't imagine that type of content will be very profitable for long.
What's your retirement plan? Do you have one? Probably not, because you're not thinking ahead. You're a grown-ass man partna. You're twenty-eight years old. You've got a fucking daughter to worry about. And you've disgraced her by your actions. She will grow up in the shadow of your actions. Her friends, whether that's in middle school, college or at work will ask her about your actions. Her entire life is now predicated on your bigotry, on your disgrace. No amount of money from other racists and other bigots can make up for the fact that you are a disgrace as a man. You're a disgrace as a father. Every second that your daughter is alive and self-aware enough to know these things will be a second that she's living in shame and disgrace because of you, because of your actions.
So you claim on your GoSendGo, on your fundraiser, that it's about protecting your kids. You need the money to protect your family from radical "Black Lives Matter protestors". But if it was really about protecting your family, you wouldn't be out here trying to die every day on stream. Yes, you've made your $60,000, feel good about it if you want. You might even make $100,000. All the bigots in the world might rally around you. But no amount of money can make up for reality that every moment she is alive, your daughter will live in shame, knowing her father is a weak man, a bigot, , a failure, a disgrace, a pathetic man without honor. You can't buy honor. Your "fans" can't bestow this on you. It is something you simply are, or aren't and based on the fact that you've spent you one God given life to spread hatred instead of uplifting, it's clear you'll never have it.
You want my armchair diagnosis? Again, I'm no therapist, but I grew up on 4chan. I've been around the block, and I understand why certain people act certain ways. Here you have a man who's looking to die. What he really wants is for him to say the wrong thing to the wrong person, and then he dies. He gets got. I don't think it's a martyrdom complex. I don't think he's trying to die for his beliefs, because he doesn't really have any beliefs. What he has is a facsimile of masculinity, a mask he's wearing and operating within.
We've seen the photos, Mr. Chud. We know you used to cross-dress. We know what you used to look like and how you used to present yourself online. We know that what you're dealing with is an internalized self-hatred that you've been projecting onto other minority groups. Unable to accept yourself, you find yourself accepted by those who can only accept your hatred. It's truly a pathetic existence to live.
It is too late now. You can never be accepted by the people who would have accepted you to begin with. You've already damned yourself and your family line, your lineage, your name, your children, and all those who come after you, to the shame and dishonor you've caused them. The only way to undo that would be to commit seppuku, which, let's be real, you're LARPing. Your masculinity is a LARP. Your masculinity is an illusion. You think you can fool everyone with it, but you can't fool me. They call me Houdini for a reason. I can see past your illusion.
Because you can't cope with who you really are, you've disgraced your family name, you've disgraced your daughter's lineage, and you've simply failed as a man. Maybe that's because you never really were a man to begin with. But I don't want to get too deep into the psychoanalysis.
Under the framework you live in, with the lifted trucks and the gender-affirming mustache, and the phallic obsession with open carry, you are a failure. You've failed to live up to the one thing, the one pledge, the one promise that every man has to make: to put family over everything. Once you have kids, the kids become the priority. So it doesn't matter what you really are, it doesn't matter the lie you're living, because even if this is the supposed truth, your disgrace remains. No amount of $25, $50 donations from bigots racist comments like "NUCK FIGGERS" can undo that.
That's what I have to say to you, Mr. Chud. If you are the type of man you claim to be, the only way to absolve your dishonor is to make the Robin Williams exit. Seppuku. Hara-kiri. Maybe that will restore the honor of the family you've so clearly disgraced. Maybe then the discussion will be about the tragedy of your exit, instead of your daughter growing up in the shadow of your dishonor. You are a failure as a man and as a father.
>>2810563>Rosenblumevery. single. time.
>>2811931THE WHITE MAN MARCHES ON
>>2811875>She becomes aware that her father is a bigot of the largest degree"daughter of a Kick streamer? oh were you sold or something??"
> protect your family from radical "Black Lives Matter protestors"Angela Davis is wrong! There's literally nothing wrong with being a goy cattle breeder slave to the Zionist Jeffrey Epstein pedo cabal
>We've seen the photos, Mr. Chud. We know you used to cross-dresswait wtf??? mean gays are so disgusting hahaha
>>2811745Where is Rumble located?
Where is Kick located?
labels like chud and incel are psyop brainworm archtypes. chud the builder's job is to 'build' a new generation of aggressive white supremacists by getting them to internalise 'chud'. he is a walking blueprint. wouldn't surprise me if he was a low level agent who recieves funding like clavicular.
>>2811968Reminder that we live in this timeline because of some liberal lumpen-loving youth of the USSR love dem jeans and hamburgers way too much.
>>2811981And because the ML bureaucrats were too retarded to just provide them.
>>2811994that went from 0 to 100 real fast!
>>2812027What the hell does this mean
>>2812032He's saying there is not a single black worker on Earth.
>If the USSR had state owned fast food burger joints then schizofascism wouldn't happen in the US
Uhm how??
>>2812089Leftychuds care more about culture war bs than material analysis
>>2811968I don't want to overstate the number of trans Nazis because they're a very tiny vocal minority and pretending they're big is exactly what they want, but holy fuck their mental illness needs to be studied.
>>2812057Idk he didn't exactly challenge him much, at least he tried though I guess.
>>2812143I've been on 4chan /lgbt/ enough to know transfash types are not as uncommon as people would like to think. I mean it's one of the most active boards on the site these days. They openly talk about how they wish the nazis didn't hate them so much because they also want to kill uyghurs and rape women like the cool kids. It's kinda sad but also in a way even more disgusting than traditional nazis.
When will China push the socialist button?
>>2812057dude took too many hits to the head is what it is, frens. he's about as insightful as joe rogan.
>>2812027>porn addiction is part of society at this pointgod damn the chuds are hurting bad
The internet is MKULTRA
>>2812225My ex gf was a trans woman and she became a full fledged neo nazi because some black people lived in the apartment next to her and played music too loud on occasion
>>2812512I dont think she's capable of blowing anybody, she became completely shut off and disinterested in sex not too long after she started taking E full time
>>2812513I refuse to acknowledge or legitimize terminally online transphobic categorizations.
With that said, given that I'm a bisexual male, I would assume HSTS
>>2812516Blanchard's typology is not transphobic.
And the fact that only AGPs get upset about it is also its own self-evidence.
>>2812527Literally a kafkatrap but okay
>>2812524>like a schizophrenicThey are as much a product of these movies as their audience are; any deeper shared social meaning has been annihilated vis-a-vis commodification such that the individual is left with an empty facade which supplements and reproduces their existence through this schizophrenic Neoplatonic babble to be explained as symbolism.
Life for these people amounts to so many empty facts which reflect their lives which are devoid of any real meaning
>>2812225>I've been on 4chan /lgbt/ enough to know transfash types are not as uncommon as people would like to thinkRespectfully, touch grass. 4chan is not representative of anything. It's a fucking anonymous imageboard that is a hive of delusion and clinical mental illness. That's not even remotely reflective of real-world populations.
>>2812509This is just dumb as fuck.
There is no valid excuse for being associated with a group that openly despises you and wants to murder you. It's mental illness brought on by internet brainrot, astroturfing, and severe isolation.
They're only reflective of being raised on 4chan and all the damage that does to your brain.
>>2812524>>2812543In a way they are just reflecting the language of the cinematography of the movies they attempt to explain away, notionally as nothing more than a commodity with absolutely no capacity to reflect historically.
For want of a better term, it's soulless
>>2812531I am a cis male autogynephile (not a "boymoder" or "manmoder" either) and in trying to figure out my gender dysphoria, I read a book recommended by Blanchard titled "Men Trapped in Men's Bodies" (2013), written by a trans autogynephile who saw that furries are analogous, in that as zoophiles, they personify the object of their sexual attraction, and its this inhabitation of one's desire (e.g..by crossdressing) that gave me clarity. The scientific explanation was a neurological crossing of wires (since as an autist, I also have brain damage, so its easier to see where the mutation would occur). Autistic people have higher rates of reported transsexualism, so the data correlates. HSTS differs in sexual orientation of course.
I just mowed the grass better than anybody has mowed the grass ever
>>2812529If you can't trust a Greek law firm that just entered into a partnership for global expansion with a guy who bugged people's phones with Israeli spyware, then who can you trust really
>>2812524Their chud wives bitch at them for having any hobbies that doesn't provide for their immediate family so they make up bullshit to explain to their significant other that they are doing something important. Like, if you actually been with a right-wing woman they just want you to work work work work work. No fucking wonder boomers hate their own spouses.
Extremely weird thing to notice but has anybody else see that rightiods are becoming a lot more into furry stuff? To the point where being a furry is more of a chud than woke thing these days?
>>2812529how was this dude in Venezuela hanging out with Maduro right before he got nabbed and in Iran right before the ceasefire lol.
>>2812561If you aren't trans then maybe you shouldn't say shit about trans issues. Blanchardism is a mental poison - it can be cured like any other, through a camp in which people enter with bourgeois false ideas in their brain, and leave only with proletarian ones.
>>2812260peanut butter is an ultimate health food. Skip the corn syrup next time.
>>2812561why do people make up so many excuses instead of just being a fag
>I am a cis male autogynephile (not a "boymoder" or "manmoder" either)take your pills Alice
>>2812510average BNWO poster
>>2812660I think I'm racist against furries, especially the military ones. imagine getting addicted to gooning to cartoon porn at 13 and keeping the habit so long you find yourself 3 renlistments deep because following orders to debase yourself into murder gives you a stiffy and makes you feel more like a german shephard or whatever, and US army bases are the only place you know where to find the 12 man no holes barred bdsm pup-play orgies that are the only thing that makes you cum.
>>2812509I dunno mate, I don't think it's that deep. I've heard a few of them out because I try to understand what motivates walking contradictions. they're just treatlerites. they got brainwashed by moderate racists like sam harris into thinking that blacks, muslims, and workers rights in the third world will take away their treats: mum's birth control pills, top surgery, and ao3 slash fiction about blonde white boys.
>>2812737drug fucked celebs ❤️ money
>>2812737He's in massive debt like any other rapper that isn't 50 cent who was cunning enough to realize all the tricks music studios do to keep their rappers in line.
>>2812547>There is no valid excuseit is not about whether or not their position is "valid". i am simply pointing out the basic dynamics of the situation. 4chan trans culture (even amongst those that are not even chuds) was also a reaction to similar tendencies in liberalism, that is not to say that /tttt/ culture is necessarily good or not
>>2812701there are some that are like this but that only makes so much sense when we also see the republican government rallying around their persecution. plenty of klansfems also still feel persecuted and like they have crappy lives and they do care about the persecution from republicans, but they do not see much potential in dems to help them in a very substantial manner. there is a distinct element of resentiment here that should be appreciated. you see this for instance in debates they engage with at times about whether trans or black people are "more oppressed". ultimately the trans community feels a lack of real power to do much of anything and this has started to manifest as cannibalism and targeting peripheral issues
>>2812561>i like to jerk off in the mirror>therefore all trans want to jerk in the mirror or fuck straight menBlanchard seems like psychoanalysis but retarded
>>2812792We talking about sex stuff? Been thinking about this because I have no idea what my sexuality is outside of enjoying novelty. I think im a gooner in that I dont internalize a specific sexuality but consume sex as a a product. I'll rotate around different fetishist including vanilla when I start feeling the mundan has become profane . I never feel shame or confusion about my predilections other than other people seem to focus on one aspect of sex and have zero curiosity. I guess people treat sex as something super personal.
>>2812816Sex is about giving another person pleasure, usually someone you care deeply about. Everything else is just various forms of masturbation, some commodified in the case of porn-brained or consumption-brained gooners.
>>2812823It’s about yourself and the other person at the same time
Is China imperialist?
>>2812974Women are horny, it’s just different and that’s why most women are lesbians
>>2812737uygha got the talk
>>2812668>Blanchardism is poisonGenuine question; do you believe that transsexuals have some sort of gendered essence? No one ever offers an alternative, they just deny science instead.
>>2812672You are so cisheteronormative that you think people can't have complex relationships to gender and sexuality. The majority of fetishistic crossdressers are non-dysphoric cis males, whether gay or straight, yet only trans people are hystericised, but even you call outliers "fag" as a naked display of ignorance. You're an imageboard user, anon, you're also fucked up.
>>2812792>therefore all transNonsense extrapolation which is never implied in my words.
>>2812682Yes, I am an autogynephile, and have suffered greatly for it.
>>2813000>>2813015The queer Rojava thing was apparently this. I wonder if he set these guys up to do this. I suspect he got kicked out of Rojava for this.
Like why would you do this? The YPJ didn't actually rock with this kind of stuff, and I'm not even saying saying you can't be a queer rebel in the most abstract sense, but in the concrete sense it's the Syrian civil war that was going on, and you're going to go out there and pose with a rainbow flag in front of rubble with some jargon acronym of a name of a group that doesn't actually exist? You either have to be delusional about the environment you're in, or you're a provocateur.
>>2813000The peoples zionist intelligence agency
>>2813038you are obsessed after 10 years?
>>2813030You're being a bit of a schizo. Some people are just retarded, and that spanish guy was fucking retarded.
>>2813000It's Helalai the Israeli, we already knew this i'm sure.
>>2813088 (me)
>>2813030Having said that, i did here from a very good source years ago that there was at least one person in the internationals who by the YPG were found to be secretly israeli and evicted as a spy.
Wonder if it was him.
>>2813098This came up in my feed. Interesting that a literal retarded(respectful) man read Capital vol 1 before most of lefty
>>2813101I thought the same thing lol
>>2813103
>Crazy that the very people involved in the Rojava project got utterly disillusioned with it
Not at all, many still carry that torch, many stayed, some continued the same work in their home countries, etc. etc.
>>2813098based cerebral palsy enjoyer
>>2813023I don't think gender exists, only sex. Gender is just an abstraction of sex. Transexual = takes action to change sex, non-binary = takes action to remove sex.
>>2813108That shit was pretty controversial among anarchists and a lot of groups wrote long statements against participation in the war on either side. I read a couple good articles from anarchist publications demolishing the arguments for joining the Ukrainian war effort. Not unlike how many Marxists split over whether to support Russia.
>>2813128That is true, however, you didn't see any MLs or Trots signing up to fight for Ukraine at all.
>>2813127>I don't think gender exists, only sex. Gender is just an abstraction of sex.Yes and no. For example, some languages use gendered pronouns for inanimate objects, and so sex and gender are divorced from one another.
>Transexual = takes action to change sex, non-binary = takes action to remove sex.And what is "sex" defined by?
>>2813000not sure why i should care this guy works for a law firm when lenin and castro provided legal services for their employers
>>2813038>HelaliProbably the most interesting figure in the ACPsphere. Very mysterious origins, weirdly friendly and cordial personality, him buying epsteins blackbook lol. Ive seen much speculation about him. I saw that photo of him in syria, still a bit of a reach to say he's in this particular photo where everyone's face is covered.
Funniest shit was when he was on that podcast they do trying to bond with Haz over middle eastern shit like bides and kissing men or holding hands or whatever and Haz is like uhhhh yeah sure, maybe you but not me haha
maybe there's something to the queer freedom fighter thing after all
>>2813000>>2813033>The peoples zionist intelligence agencyIt really just seems to be the LaRouche business model.
That's all ACP is. And if it ever looks any other way, then that's just them climbing the spook ladder and doing ops in their name. IDK why anyone would trust the ACP, but I value their presence as a litmus test.
Anyone who ever relates with the ACP is to be forever blacklisted with a degree of association from any communist org.
>>2813217None of the images says about civilians nor even implied.
>>2813223It's probably a crypto-Islamist seething about the time Brace talked about pissing on the dead bodies of ISIS fighters
>>2812978based retard
>>2812974boring retard
>>2811967> aggressive white supremacists by getting them to internalise 'chud'Calling yourself sewer dwelling mutant zombies to own the libs
>>2811967I think a larger part of the greater chud project is to colonize crust punk aesthetics (And punk aesthetics in generla now that I think about it) because if you control both the underground and the aboveground like what the fuck is going to oppose you? Rightiods are still dubbed "contrarians" and "edgelords" by the masses. We must make being a rightiod basic like it was before 4chan was appropriated and turned into a factory of chud memes that you're supposed to find funny for some reason or else you're a softy or whatever.
>>2811995DPRK survived by cracking down on western culture, China by just providing them.
USSR did the only wrong tbing which was neither, as they usually did for most issues
The curse of being the first
>>2813274Everyone that isnt an aging millenial or a genX think "crustpunk" and "punk" suck because it's revoltingly ugly. It's also not underground at all, it's just unpopular because it's lame and has been.
Actual under-30 people are into looksmaxxing, streamers, romanticised yuppie aesthetic from the 80s, gambling, animes or adult swim cartoons. Punk is nowhere to be found.
>>2813088>You're being a bit of a schizo. Some people are just retarded, and that spanish guy was fucking retarded.Thing is the YPG was trying to recruit Arabs under the SDF front and there was going to be Arab fighters (also probably Kurdish fighters as well) who'd see that and say "we're not going to fight alongside faggots."
>>2813155>him buying epsteins blackbook lolI think now he might have faked that. Like the address book was already publicly available, and he printed it out and made his own "black book" and was trying to sell it at auction for an entry price of $75,000. It didn't sell. He's a con artist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/16/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-fails-sell-auction-twice/>>2813287>Actual under-30 people are into looksmaxxing, streamers, romanticised yuppie aesthetic from the 80sIdk I see a a decent amount of zoomers walking around who look like they're wearing 90s grunge fashion that also looks kind of goth.
>>2813361>I see a a decent amount of zoomers walking around who look like they're wearing 90s grunge fashion that also looks kind of goth.that's just them being mentally ill dysfunctional slobs, not subculture. Easy mistake to make
>>2813247He also calls them clowns on numerous occasions, which they objectively are
>>2813361>Thing is the YPG was trying to recruit Arabs under the SDF front and there was going to be Arab fighters (also probably Kurdish fighters as well) who'd see that and say "we're not going to fight alongside faggots."It wasn't really local facing media though, it was clearly aimed at europe. I'm not saying it wasn't a shit idea, i just don't think it was this 5D chess move, just some naive kids trying to push back at structures (that they honestly have no business pushing back on) which frustrate them.
Also look at the pages in the "black book" in the clip (that was Helali showing it to Business Insider). The book is supposed to be 20 years old, maybe older to the 1990s, but the pages look like they came straight out of a printer. He fabricated it to try and scam people out of money.
>>2813419I also don't actually know what was going on. Like, I wasn't there.
>TanKKKoids still coping about Rojava
Assad LOST
Does anyone have that other thing about him what got him dubbed Helali The Israeli? The thing about knowing that Israeli resort town in South Asia somewhere.
>>2813456that was a gaynazi anecdote
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