>>2467914You're the kind of tard who thinks David is porn.
>>2468138Magacoms are funny to me because it's really obvious that they don't actually care that much about any AES state, or really America for that matter. No, they care about Russia, they want to turn the US into Russia. But "magacommunism" has a better ring to it, so they went with that instead.
Hey, does Hinkle still live in Russia?
>>2468156>Hey, does Hinkle still live in Russia?Yes, for a year+
They say he is stuck there. He is afraid of coming back to america and going to jail.
>>2468603an issue with racism is that you end up taking credit for the great men of your race. this is even a fault in haz's formulation:
>the chinese industrialisedno, chinese industrialists forced chinese people into a particular form of labour. in aldous huxley's "brave new world" you have chemists making things based on instruction manuals, but in their own mind, they dont know what they make - thats the alienated knowledge of civilisation.
>>2466024iirc a poll among trumpanzees said 47% of them would still support him even if his name is in the epstein files
>>2465895then again, is twitter as containment for polyp behavior any better?
>>2464982arguably, without the protests the genocide would be happening faster, and, just as arguably, that's not any good
>>2467178>You can't expect Belle Delphine to seriously want to end capitalism when it's the sole thing that keeps her rich enough to stay out of having to get a real job.Counterpoint: many people who built AES were cases of members of the ruling or at least well-iff classes that worked to demolish the systems which would have benefitted them.
>>2471122Wow, very funny.
Very cool.
>>2468603>>2471122Someone here should try starting beef between Sam Hyde and Haz. It would be so fucking funny. Not just because of the men themselves, but also because their audiences both consist of retarded schizo spergs, and it would be like an infinite salt mine.
I can just imagine, Hyde challenges Haz to a wrestling match because that's something he likes doing for some reason, Haz obviously accepts, and then gets his shit kicked in because Sam Hyde is like three times his size. And then the rest is history.
>>24712341. forget the whole thing
2. just continue pushing it was a transhumanist despite all evidence
>>2470890Right. Why, though? I'm asking in good faith, I barely remember "Red Scare" must be some podcast with a chick with a Russian name or something, but they're people like Aimee-Therese-style or Shoeonhead-style, which put up a "dirtbag left" persona for a few years, but you know they are going mask off as rightwingers at some point.
>>2471043Nah, I guess they're cucking out. When shit gets serious - and an assassination is serious - you can bet larpers and hobbyists will do a runner. Besides, he didn't get "a rush" by some inexplicable supernatural cause, he was shot by a sniper.
>>2471216The CK thing down in Utah is clearly an op. That said, if it wasn't, then such an action would definitely count as the start of a purge, but because people like CK are the one that have to be purged for the good of the entire world.
>>2471218I'm all for it. That would be epic. I mean, I don't know shit about SH except he's a "comedian", he's been a meme for years - the pic of him with an ar or something, IIRC - and he openly says deranged and racist shit without sugarcoating it. I don't know how big he is, yet Haz is basically a midget, so I guess there's a considerable mismatch. I would advice Haz to start training in Jiu-jitsu, though. If he can bring his adversary to the ground quickly and then go for a submission, I guess he could have a chance even if at a disadvantage in size.
>>2471225Don't know why, but all of a sudden I had this thought: what if CK struck a suicide pact with someone and he had himself murdered in public like that as a final clout-chasing gesture? It's almost like a Andy Warhol kind of thing.
>>2471315Here we go. Told ya…
>>2470880>AC is a confirmed, unrepentant and unreformed sex pest,That this is the first thing that comes to mind reinforces how effective that psyop was.
The sexpest thing, the truthiness of which is irrelevant, got very inorganically astroturfed to hide the real controversy going on at the time. Which is that Cuomo had been hiding the COVID statistics after giving the order to release thousands of old people form the hospitals back into nursing homes, claiming they would get appropriate care there (and wouldn't infect everybody) while they were still sick with rona. While also giving those nursing homes immunity from prosecution… for the following thousands of elderly people who died there as a result of that policy.
He was, at the time, in abject fear of the consequences so he claimed to be hiding the numbers, in a press conference, to "not give Trump ammunition". Presumably as a last ditch measure to beg for help. Which presumably came in the form of the sex pest scandal and the subsequent blackout on rona AC coverage.
>>2471574You're right, Cuomo has a skeleton-in-his-closet industrial complex, no doubt. I thought about the corona mass killings he facilitated while I was writing that post, but in the end I just wanted it to be a quick jab about Hasan looking like a better man than him. Also, I didn't remember the exact details of the corona situations like you did.
That said, I agree the sex pest thing was basically smoke and mirrors. I mean, being a sleazy fuck is infinitely less of a crime than conducting mass murders. But he didn't fight back that shit and he substantially admitted his behaviour was out of order. I genuinely hope the entire Cuomo family, now also Cuomo-Kennedy, will be wiped out in the next big pandemic, where some misterious novel virus will infect and kill only the oligarchs.
>>2471627Jeez! Now some nobody with a loli avatar is threatening all of us having a laugh at some good, quality entertainment - which is actually the only "good and quality" thing CK ever did - and I feel really scared. Like I'm logging off right now, shutting down my computer, throwing it in the bin and running away to hide in some cave.
Btw, imagine if that "techbro follower" registered the charliemurderers.com domain
before CK was actually offed… That would be funny! Ah, and why murderer
s?
Guess what? I named that bitch ShoeOnArse and… tadah!!! Speak of the devil… I guess I'm some kind of "Etsy Warlock" at this point, kek!
>>2471724Based John Brown. Oh, and hi Erik! I said I would have signed up to your forum, then I forgot. I see there's not much movement there, but if I start effortposting, maybe some other people will jump in. Or maybe they'll stay away exactly because I'll be there, I don't know… Anyway, I really don't feel inspired to effortpost here on /leftypol/ anymore, things are only faster tonight because of the Utah situation, but this place unfortunately is the shadow of its former self… Maybe it's just a reflection of the general state of the internet, which is all slop and bots and stupidity all around at this point.
>>2471744No, Charlie Kunt won't rest in peace. He's already descending into the hellfire, adobe of eternal agony and infinite pain. Legions of devils are rubbin' it on him before they stick it in…
>it's time to wake upNo, please, Sarahbuffoon, do us a favour: keep sleeping. That's the only positive contribution you can be capable of.
>>2471796Yeah, I mean, how can people still believe all those cretins are not fed their lines by someone? They are a bunch of fake and phonies, they replicate exactly the same dynamics of mainstream media, yet they are somewhat
independent and
alternative… Yeah, sure, and the girls shooting for Blacked.com are all still virgins.
>>2471789>he was a friggin moderate, bro!He said the civil rights act was a mistake and insult Martin Luther king Jr.
Look it up.. It's true.
>>2471824Kek'd so hard on that one that my sides reached warp speed and exited the known universe… If Mr Proven Wrong in Utah was a
moderate, what would a
non-moderate Burger rightwinger look like? The love child of Cthulhu and Hannibal Lecter?
Seriously, what kind of crack has that bitch been smoking lately?
>>2471122Half of his jokes have always been "saying what you think your opponent believes while doing a gay cartoon voice but being so mad about it that you can't really keep up the bit"
Baffled that even a lot of leftists think he was some funny guy who just happened to be unfortunately alt-right
>>2471796>Every single podkkkaster and eceleb is saying the same.Belden is retweeting hysterical conservatives and Biederman is making subtle jabs at Kirk
Get mad at me all you want for dickriding but the OGs never abandoned who they truly are, slackers making dumb jokes about shit that no one can control
>>247178920 years ago, nobody was doing racial incitement. They were not calling for mass, racial retaliation over random violence. They were not tolerating "TND" or anything of the kind. In fact, it was totally verbotten.
I do wonder why these people think that what Kirk did was "moderate", when all he did was present a cleaner version– he didn't call them n-words. He just said they were violent savages that hated all white people and needed to be put in prison or put to death.
>>2471338Big picture, Sam Hyde is probably best described as a manosphere influencer, even though he predates the term (more on that later). At its core, his act really isn't that far off from the kind of thing Andrew Tate does; this really base, materialistic version of masculinity taken to the extreme. What makes Sam Hyde different from the manosphere at large is that there's a much bigger intellectual bent to his stuff. He works this kind of postmodern performance artist angle, where everything he does is, or at least is framed as, a really elaborate ironic shitpost with a deeper satirical meaning, and if you don't find it funny it's because you're just a pea brained neanderthal. He also talks about things at greater length and depth than someone like Andrew Tate is able or willing to, so if you're a teenage boy looking for a role model, he's going to give you much more to chew on than his contemporaries.
And really, that's Sam Hyde in a nutshell. He's a manfluencer for the kind of kids who post on the Sharty; people who are too nerdy and artsy to see the appeal of someone like Andrew Tate, but are still filled with enough stupid misguided teenage boy energy that they want something similar.
The weird thing about him, something that I alluded to earlier, is that he's been around for far longer than the manosphere people I compared him to; long enough ago that I was in high school when I learned about him. I didn't watch him, but if you were in Gamergate circles, which I regretfully was, you absolutely knew who he was. It's kind of amazing that he's managed to stick around for as long as he has.
>>2471789I made the forum too early, should have made it the million visitor thing
we should take over
https://dangeru.us/all/ tho, i used to post there back when it was active
>>2467178>You can't expect Belle Delphine to seriously want to end capitalism when it's the sole thing that keeps her rich enough to stay out of having to get a real jobTrue, but that isn't true of most OnlyFans models. They're not making much money. Now, whether they're falling into the proletariat, and getting "real jobs" I don't know? One whose instagram I followed did bar work for a while, was in some sort of legal, perhaps criminal bother , but her main job from what I could tell was stripping. Wouldn't that be more lumpen-proletariat than anything else?
I take the point about most corporations pay some sort of rent, like OnlyFans models pay a commission to the platform. So if they can make a living from it ike Belle Delphine that would make them petit-bourgeois.
But you could apply the same logic to Uber drivers? Few people, colloquially anyway, would say they're part of the petit bourgeois. "Self employment " in their case is really a con. That isn't to say a lot of drivers themselves wouldn't see themselves as part of the hustle to get rich.
Don't know where i'm going with this really but thanks for the thought provoking post.
>>2472267>Doubt it's genuine since people are always searching for a way to ban him and he might be scared he could be a target by rightoids after thatYes Hasan Piker is secretly a communist, like the Democrats he prescribes you to vote for every single election cycle, at every level.
It's just that they have to pretend to be milquetoast Zionists and sellouts to fit in, once they get within a light years of mainstream relevance.
You know it in your heart, sister. And that's what matters.
< the united states has the political instability of 1990s eastern europe, probably badhttps://xcancel.com/CantEverDie/status/1965852009992696125so many radlib grifters getting cold feet now lmfao
>>2471886because its genuinely tough to imagine somebody more deserving of political assassination than kirk, because in addition to his reactionaryism he was a grifter. he did it for money and clout. and now the leftoid grifters who are doing it for money and clout? obviously terrified
>>2473015That would have been even funnier if the ban was lifted on Oct 7.
>>2473024That's a given.
>>2473027So do I.
>>2473032Yeah if this person thought they were doing a "Luigi but for trans rights" they're absolutely retarded and fucked up lmao.
On the other hand finding engraved ammunition "inside the suspected rifle" without finding the actual suspect sure is convenient
>>2473020>>2473044Actually I'm calling bs on this already.
If the engravings were directly on the bullets why use the "suspected rifle" as evidence and not the bullet found in his body?
If the engravings were on the casings why would the shooter bother writing a "message" if he's shooting from two hundred yards away and presumably didn't leave the casing behind (or they would have found it)?
>>2473020>>2473044It's obviously bullshit.
>they're absolutely retarded and fucked up lmaoIf? That's just like literally anyone mentally ill enough to decide to pull some vigilante bullshit. Like sure, it's funny that some annoying schmuck got killed but even if it doesn't provoke further state repression, which it might not, it still pacifies the masses and points them away from their own activity.
"Politics" stays a spectacle of things other people do, and at best something they do that makes the people in my life I hate shut up, or something I get myself killed trying to replicate forming no larger social inertia.
>>2473032I'm not saying there will be any habbening because of that and obviously I'm not saying this will trigger le revolution, if anything it's gonna be an excuse for even more surveillance and police state. And that's what rightwingers have been already advocating for the entire night. I was sarcastically signaling that it was to be expected the fed and the glowies would have tried to frame the Orem situation as "leftwing terrorism". I still think either is lonewolf-rightwing-on-establishment-rightwing violence or an op (which would be establishment-rightwing-on-establishment-rightwing violence tbh).
>>2473044Again, I don't think situations like this are helpful - at least in the immediate - but I can't help but having a laugh at the entire circus, from the execution itself - very Zapruderesque - to the entire media and political spectacle that came after.
>>2473050It's the fed we're talking about. Everything they say should be treated as bs until proof of the contrary. And let me tell you straight away, I guess there will be some
mysterious fumbling with the
evidence. Mark my words.
>>2473055>if anything it's gonna be an excuse for even more surveillance and police statemaybe, maybe not. the police state is repressive enough as it is, why panic now
>And that's what rightwingers have been already advocating for the entire nightmiddle classers of any ideology are always asking for more state repression against whoever they dislike, theyre always in a state of anxiety. again, nothing new since like, ever
>or an opchanner brainrot. yeah the country has an insane number of guns and mass shootings but this time its some le glowie shit. though i do agree the headlines about some "trans bullet" or whatever are obvious clickbait
>Ammunition inside the rifle was engraved with messages of transgender and antifascist ideology, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing a law enforcement bulletin and source familiar with the investigation.buuuuuuuuuullshit
>>2473053obv its dumb adventurism but its been a hilarious situation all around. like that vid trump released thats clearly made with AI had me cackling
>>2471627anime girl profile pic uyghas are consistently the most retarded posters
Whenever I see an anime girl pfp I instantly stop reading
>>2473139Such is the nature of a grifter.
You have to generate outrage to get people talking and it relies on people not beating your ass out of fear of retaliation from the state.
>>2473180>or something I get myself killed trying to replicate forming no larger social inertia.See, about that second part. Aren't most school shooters inspired by other school shooters? Hopefully you can see where I'm going with this…
>>2473181Based
>>2473103I guess nowadays someone managing a bot factory could set up some script capable of reading incoming email messages with verification codes and going through the reactivation process automatically. If the great geniuses at twitter think their method is effective against bots, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell them… Obv the truth must be that their algo got the meaning of your tweets and they set things up to ban people automatically if they are suspected of having hurt the feefees of rightwingers. I guess you'll never even get that reactivation code.
>>2473139The fact that a children will not have to interact with such a loathsome and disgusting figure in a paternal role is in and of itself good for the boy. I don't know how much genetics plays a role in psychology and personality, I just hope he won't follow into his father's footsteps. And if there's some kind of justice, maybe the former Miss Arizona - and now former Mrs Kirk - cucked the cunt and the boy is someone else's biological son.
>>2473160This. 9 out of 10 are irredeemable cretins.
>>2473167You know the fun thing about the name Charlie? If you go to the English wikipaedo and you type Charlie in the search bar, you get these suggestions first:
>Charles III>King of the United Kingdom since 2022
>Charlie Sheen>American film and television actor (born 1965)
>Charles Manson>American criminal and cult leader (1934-2017)
>Charlie Chaplin>English comic actor and filmmaker (1889-1977)
>Charli XCX>British singer and songwriter (born 1992)
>The Man Finally Proven Wrong in Orem, Utah
>Charlie and the Chocolate Factory>The book
>Charlie Hebdo shooting
>Charlie and the Chocolate Factory>The 2005 filmI mean, it's a peculiar collection of mostly weird and insane characters, events and works of fiction.
Pic unrelated.
>>2473202Again, they pull this tough guy tier one operator shit over every fucking thing
>the green m&m isn't sexy anymore? you libtards just signed your own death warrants>cracker barrel changed their logo? day of the rope right fucking now>mde got canceled? rwds rolling in your neighborhood tonight ;)>target is selling pride merch? billions must die!!!Their "civil war" is gonna be crying to Trump on Twitter to nuke blue states, which is what they've already been doing for the last decade.
>>2473202>>2473225all these faggots talk about is how might makes right, and now that poor charlie kirk has been overpowered by sniper fire, theyre crying and begging trump to declare martial law
>>2471122its hilarious how people like hyde who have made their bones blaming jews for everything are willing to torch everything over the corpse of a vocal zionist
whats also crazy is theyre already acting like the shooter has been confirmed to be a leftist, as if most political violence in this country wasnt committed by the right and most leftists didnt live in places like brooklyn and still wear covid masks everywhere
sooooooooooo many furry artists im following on twitter and bsky crying crocodile tears over this shit and saying how the sanctity of debate must be respected
>>2473260>BAPistthats a fucking thing??
>>2473260Least cringe thing about them tbh
>>2473269Furries are known to be overly sentimental pseuds, I'd expect nothing less.
>>2473269strange, all the really deviant porn artists i follow on bsky are pretty open about the fact that he deserved to die.
vanilla artists are lib scum, be deviant and be free.
>>2472564He's on thin ice I'll give.
He still yells at them, he just supports them to the extent of inspiring more progressives.
Any idea of a party line he doesnt bother since he argues we're in a fascist society and we dont have the class consciousness to handle the direness of it all.
>>2473340Rip what was probably top 5 best sub reddits.
>>2473361>vanilla artists are lib scum, be deviant and be free.uggghh SO performative, lets ignore for a moment that literally all artists are pb by definition and theres nothing le radical (i hate this word) about some random shitheads death, shit is simply just funny brah
anyway i meant weirdo fetish NSFW stuff obviously. i just follow way too many artists ig
>>2473340>>2473380and nothing of value was lost
>>2472692lol at the smoke going through the balaclava
>>2473568ez because Hasan feels more professional solidarity with Kirk than he feels human solidarity with kids in gaza
>>2473020💪💪
>>2471886>>2472248but thats good, people who usually dont act in a shocked manner when shown gore are usually very deformed irl, since they look at gore every morning in the mirror
>>2473340If you're a comrade shill both leftypol and lemmygrad to themPrevent them from being reabsorbed into Meta or Xitter "leftist" groups
(I would if I had dummy accs left)
>>2471218boomer hyde cant even stand his ground against some rando normie libturds. he seems to be pushed by the nostalgic 30yo 4chud millenials who are alcoholics.
>>2473753uhh jussa quick friendly game of hide n seek with our public servant protectors
>>2473756I don't look for gore. When I saw the CK fountain of blood, at first I thought "holy shit". Then I rewatched it again a few times since and I thought "good riddance". I have to say I approached the thing knowing who that piece of shit was. If other people don't want to watch at all or get shocked by doing it, I can appreciate that. Also, Hasan AOCbi has a business reputation and he had to act like that when he reacted to the video. Indeed, I would have been really surprised if he started screaming "LOL!!! Gigachad shooter!!! One for the team! WOW!!! That was cool!!!".
That said, I remember he used to do shock-jock shit years ago, so I really don't know…
>>2473784>>2473806You know what? Aside from being owned by the other guy and throwing many micro hissy fits for that and receiving negative commentary from none other than PaeDestiny aka Epsteiny, he uncannily reminds me of the Trot. The American far right Trotsky. And not only physically. I guess the Trot in real life was an argumentative cunt no one could stand. Maybe one day some other neonazi will crash his head with an icepick.
Also
<talks constantly about "preserving le muh genes">is a chain smoker >>2473914i love heligobter rides :DDDDD
and selling my guntry to amerigans :DDDDDD
>>2473939Dashy bashy planes go crashy
Towers turn to dust and ashy
burgerfats shid and fard their khakis
Time for see-aye-eh to blame Iraqis?
>>2474029youre the only other anon that keeps up with egirls i love you
whats your opinion on all the snoojak shit that just dropped
>>2474336You're thinking of Mastodon (which all of you should have accs on)
Bluesky is simply the Democratic Party's microblogging platform after the GOP took over Twitter.
>>2464958>/r/thedeprogramThe sub has been banned.
Like everywhere else, say with oct7 or any other big USAno propaganda event. The rightoids come flooding in and demanding sympathy and baiting anything else as a response. Then the reddit admins sweep on places and either destitute mods and put their own for "not doing enough" or ban the place.
Did you not show sufficient compassion for Charlie Kirk?
Did you say his policies were akin to Nazism or that his death was a welcome event?
Did the righwinger trolls get their fee fees hurt when they came to brigade the sub?
That's a paddlin'
Other subs like r/trueanon already self-censor when something happens, on account of a schizo of their being sometime involved. But that's generally the intended effect, to crush dissent.
>>2474366aay shout outs 2 u zanon kayposter 💙💚💛 granted i better not catch you dissin badabombi like that one last time.. i definitely dont keep up with that vacuum xerson from the teletubbies but it was in the open that shes a brainbroken chan-obsessed nazi for like a year and a half now. i guess it only came in the public eye now cuz some other famous tokker picked it up and did an xpose. she would spend all day postin&making hyperborea edits of herself and also bonbi edits altho she was exiled and bullied by the bonvibros… and when not she would be in the discord talking bout brenton tarrant and recruiting her underage friends into her "groyper" space as 22 yearold woman
i only came back for and found the recent drama that got big interesting where one of the new girls snoo groomed, got close with a tiktok forum admin/pedomin and got access to mod, sites backside and code. but the relationship went south and she deleted and bombed the whole thing, leaked all DMs etc, actually knew some code.
>>2474618>>2474645nah its a yoke, its unrelated drama to that twitterposter
https://youtu.be/wh8jN803aKw >>2476089always had a hunch she swung that way but the full extent is fucking crazy. turns out she was a big right wing twitter egirl in 2020, went by h8cinder. i know that "white supremacists are the least supreme people" is a cliche but i dont understand how a goblin autist like snoo could ever fall into this. she should be picking flowers and petting puppies, not posting up with race warriors. same shit with sico, she wasnt groomed but doing the grooming. just a bunch of pathetic girls looking to have some semblance of power over others.
is it even possible to fix these types or do they just gotta be sectioned off somewhere without internet access
>>2475930BBC porn is literally their punishment fantasy against white women.
The women they can't get and ignored them in high school get fucked by the lowest people in their mental racial hierachy, making it a humilation in their eyes.
Destiny is a shitbag but that clip of them with xQC is an absolute laugh.
/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1nf2q79/destiny_makes_xqc_briefly_ragequit_their_heated/
>"What you did,unironically, you sat there at your computer and link me shit that compares Barack Obama to the Libs of Tiktok. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH WITH YOUR STUPID DOGSHIT! CUCK! CUUUCK! I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it…" (leaves)>>2472982Now we doing preaction vids.
>>2477424Tfw no gen x gf
My last relationship she was 44, currently talking to a chicks less than half her age tho, which is a bit new to me
>>2471886You know what's really, especially pathetic to me? Streamers like Hasan, who spend hours disavowing the radical actions of the people. Why does the media class of the 'left' always come out in lockstep when these actions happen? It's because they are from the same class. To someone like Hasan, the harm that the oppressor does is abstract, he mourns Charlie Kirk because to him, these debates, this media spectacle, is ultimately for a profit motive. To the media class, the harm of a disrupted status quo is immediate and terrifying. Hasan sits in his studio, a palace built on the crumbs of the very system he claims to critique, and his primary function is not to radicalize but to manage radical energy. To channel justified rage into safe, non-disruptive, and ultimately profitable avenues: donations, subscriptions, merch.
This is the ultimate betrayal, to watch a supposed ally, a self-appointed leader of the people mourn this disgusting white supremacist Charlie Kirk. "I was going to debate him in a month!" he screeches, knowing that a line of profit has been silenced. These cats all play with the same ball of yarn, at the expense of the working class. It is the role of the comprador intellectual, the leftist who has been granted a seat at the table on the condition that he explains to the masses why they cannot overturn it. When a Tyler Robinson acts, he makes their comfortable position untenable. He shatters the myth they so carefully cultivate: that change can be won through debate-club performances and voting guides. That the violence the system inflicts upon the working class is the only acceptable form of He exposes their analysis as a parlor game.
The media left, the streamer left, the PMC class, they are not allies. They are the shock absorbers for the system. Their condemnation is not based on a strategic disagreement; it is a class instinct. They must, at all costs, protect the property relations that afford them their platform and their privilege. To them, the death of a white supremacist is a greater sin than a bombed child in Rafah. A disrupted speech is a more visceral threat than a vaporized family.
They speak of "violence" and "optics" because their world is made of images and discourse. They do not live in the world of material consequences, of bulldozed homes and embargoed medicine. Tyler Robinson did not attack people; he attacked the machinery of genocide. He attacked the profit motive. And that is the one sin the professional-managerial class cannot forgive.
The oppressor class hates Tyler Robinson because he was effective. He moved beyond their controlled reformism and struck at the material base of their power, a voice of unfettered hate has been silence, not by debate, not by the ballet, but from where political power really grows, with the barrel of a gun. And the left-media class disavows him because they know, in their gut, that their entire existence is predicated on the premise that such actions are "unthinkable." They must make an example of him to prove their own loyalty to the very system they purport to oppose.
>>2469811to counter your point: AES states have emerged from under-industrialised low complexity economies in formerly colonial or dynastic states. marx saw capitalism as an intermediate step between feudalism and socialism in the path to communism. in these states quality of life metrics like life expectancy and literacy have only gone up. this is in contrast to the west and its vassals where these metrics have been static or declined.
your post is reductive and betrays an ignorance to both theory and practice.
<NYT GUEST: HASAN PIKER<HASAN COMES OUT AGAINST POLITICAL VIOLENCE AND FOR THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEASI Was Supposed to Debate Charlie Kirk. Here’s What I Would Have Said.https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/13/opinion/charlie-kirk-debate-violence.html(
https://archive.is/cPO04)
>In less than two weeks, I was supposed to debate Charlie Kirk.>The event was scheduled for Sept. 25 at Dartmouth College, and it was meant to be a wide-ranging conversation about American politics, focused on the views of young voters.
>But on Wednesday, tragedy intervened. The entire country now knows the story: Mr. Kirk was fatally shot while speaking at a university campus in Utah. Late Thursday night, an arrest was made in the case.>I found out that Mr. Kirk had been killed while I was livestreaming to my audience on Twitch, as I do nearly every day. While I am exposed daily to images of incredible horror, particularly those of atrocities taking place in Gaza, I was still shocked by the images from Utah.
>What shocked me was not merely the graphic nature of what took place. It was the horror of seeing someone whom I know — not a friend or an ally, but a human being I know personally and have debated before — fall victim to what clearly seems to be a rising tide of political violence.>Even before knowing exactly why Mr. Kirk was killed, I think there are some disturbing and necessary insights that can be drawn from his horrible death, ideas that affect the way many of my viewers — and many of the people who followed Mr. Kirk — see the world.
>The first of these insights is hardly new. The United States has both very loose gun laws and more violent gun deaths per capita than any other developed nation in the world. And while shootings occur most anywhere, campuses can be especially deadly. As news broke that Mr. Kirk was shot at Utah Valley University, there was a near-simultaneous tragedy at a high school in small-town Colorado, where a 16-year-old shot two fellow students. There have been 47 school shootings this year.
>Though it may ultimately prove correct to classify Mr. Kirk’s death as a tectonic political murder, the shooting was not itself uncommon or extraordinary. The victim was.
>The second idea is more general and is connected to perhaps why these kinds of killings happen in the first place. Violence almost never originates in a vacuum, and the killing of a high-profile political content creator — regardless of why it happened — speaks to a breakdown in our social order.
>Mr. Kirk was fond of talking about the ways that urban life has decayed in America, particularly in places like his native Chicago area. In fact, his last words included answering a question about the frequency of mass shootings with a question of his own about whether “gang violence” counted in that discussion.
>Any answer about civic decline in America also has to include a discussion about the failure of our political and economic establishment to reconcile with social challenges that have touched every place and aspect of American life. Too many examples of the deadly gun violence we see today are, it seems to me, indicative of this decline.>The social challenges include rising rents and homelessness, the destruction caused by climate change, titanic levels of inequality, and too many others to name here. Our capitalist way of life — always accumulating, never evening out — leaves more and more people to deal with these problems on their own.
>This produces feelings of isolation and resentment as material conditions worsen. And considering that our society is swamped by and yet somehow stitched together by a 24/7 news cycle that too often feeds this resentment, it is little wonder that a country of stressed-out gun owners would have so many grim, needless gun deaths.
>This connects to my final idea.>Americans inhabit a culture of violence to which we have become habitually desensitized. There’s a connection between our culture of violence and American foreign policy. Over time, our culture of violence has targeted people around the world — anywhere from Cuba to Iraq — people who serve as literal targets for American weapons and bombs, absorbing what I think of as Americans’ excess capacity for violence.
>For years now, American politics has taken on an increasingly punitive flavor. During the George W. Bush era, Arabs and Muslims were (and remain) singled out for suspicion. Their civil rights were routinely violated as we embarked on fresh wars against Arab and Muslim countries, and we regarded lives in those countries as less precious than our own.
>The Barack Obama years were not so much a correction as continuity, with drone strikes, night raids and forever war. What followed in President Trump’s first term and in Joe Biden’s administration was still more of the same: extreme rhetoric about designated American enemies combined with aggressive sanctions and secret operations aimed at destabilizing entire countries.>A foreign policy organized around punishing and killing our supposedly sworn enemies, diplomacy be damned, conveys the terrible message that we can only kill and maim our way to achieving the world we want to live in.
>I fear that this is most evident in America’s ironclad support for Israel. The genocide in Gaza has claimed tens of thousands of innocent lives. Meanwhile, Israel has carried out brazen assassinations and attempted assassinations in Iran, Qatar, Lebanon and Yemen. >Backed up by Mr. Trump and, previously, by Mr. Biden, our government’s virtually unyielding support for Israel tells a scary story about the country we live in.
>It suggests that, merely because we designate them as such, American enemies can be marked for death. Whether such rivals pose a legitimate threat, the “fire and fury” of our military and our allies have clearly become the default answer for how we deal with a world whose interests don’t align with our own. Pulling a gun or launching a missile has become part of our national character, a sad reduction of morality to the time it takes for fingers to pull triggers.
>I would have liked to ask Mr. Kirk about all these things. He and I identified some of the same problems, but our views clashed about their causes and their potential solutions.
>Americans, especially younger Americans, feel a sense of growing hopelessness as so many of those in power refuse to listen to their struggles, economic and otherwise. One side, Democrats, offers mostly platitudes, while the other, epitomized by Mr. Trump, frequently takes advantage of people’s resentments and redirects them toward vulnerable communities. Mr. Kirk, an ally of Mr. Trump, was an expert at the latter.
>I wanted to debate Mr. Kirk. But because of a violent act, now I can’t.>>2477876>>2477876>why the fuck would he write this?Honestly, confusing. I'd say that the end goal of any influencer, in any format is to get MSM access and money.
But Hasan is already filthy rich, gets paid outrageously well for his "content creation" and seems pretty much untouchable because of the role he has in arbitrating discourse and revenue downstream.
So IDK, maybe he wants a political career? Status?
>>2477818Going to take a page out of Kwame Ture's page here:
Hasan's policy was, if you show your opponent the error of your ways and sway them with citations and rhetoric and the very material reality they live in, his opponent and his followers would be moved to the change their hearts. That's very good. He only made one fallacious assumption. In order for such tactics and strategies to work, Kirk and his followers would have to have a conscience. As we have seen, they have none.
When is it going to stick that "debate" should only be reserved for solving problems amongst like-minded people and not some blood sport for people to oogle and spectate?
>>2478955I have an account just to follow another locked account, but that's it. Nevermind being a fascist, unless you have a sizeable followerbase, or you have a circle of very online mutuals, then it's literally useless, the algorithm literally does not show your tweets to anyone if you're a brand new account, they dont even show in search, I guess to push you to buy the premium features. I've been using xcancel for months to get around the nag screen
> Why is there no proper alternative to it? In some regards, it's fine that there's no alternative to it, twitter wasn't enjoyable, it was mostly a habit for me. This place, with all its defects, is a lot better. When I got banned, I wasn't really in a hurry to make a new account, and all the people that I used to be my mutuals with have grown deranged in their own unique way. It really is not a good place to be in.
>>2479210Right, i don't get why
>Death is a design flawis supposed to be reddit or whatever, except for the cringy metaphor. Conquering death is the ultimate goal of medical research for the foreseeable future and this is really one of the few points on which Elizier Yudkowsky was entirely correct.
>>2479238What the fuck?
Also I think this is the first time I’ve see Wu has ever sat she was trans.
This is irrelevant now but even during Gamergate, where she become a name, she never said she was trans despite claiming to get countless death threats every day. I think she is genuinely scared now in a way she wasn’t back then.
Something very bad must be happening in RW space right now.
>>2479494Bullshit. Excuses for ruling class terror are just as replaceable as propagandists. More, probably.
If anything, it's a good thing some terminally online irony poisoned idiot did it, it adds some ambiguity and deniability to the situation.
>>2479494>you quite simply do not perceive of this as an adult should>for you, this is all just memes on a computer>a political action that is already having clear political consequences that are negative for the politics and people that you pertain to be on the side ofwhat the fuck is wrong with this guy? he's blaming on US because we chuckled about a high-level right-winger (not a simpleton like he tries to portray how kirk was) getting undone?
fucking moron, the right-wing rethuglicans and right-wing demokkkraps always act on behest of their capitalist donors, not left-wing causes or communist causes, and they either move things further right slowly because they can't find a reason to move things faster or they take any opportunity, opportunities like this, to move things faster, but that doesn't mean that's because someone chuckled at kirk's death.
this guy is lost.
>>2479720if these pseuds werent pseuds they wouldnt be youtubers to begin with i guess and they could make more compelling points about how propaganda of the deed is bullshit or something but they can just resort to gibberish and morals
>>2479842>leftist streamersgood riddance
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