There has been speculation that a lot of the culture war threads on /v/ are being perpetuated by facebook groups of all things.
>>2829839I wonder why people still go to that website now that it's openly known to be compromised by the biggest bourgeois in the world.
>>2829672Do streamers deserve prison? It's very possible.
Streamers are the reason for many social ills. Eventually will come the "Time of Beaver Dams" when holy men wield EMPs and bust into streamer homes, smashing microphones, cameras, and wifi box. Even educational streams will be dammed up.
>>2829672is he wrong? people are freaking out online about corruption because $200,000 of toys got stolen in utah by the mormon mafia. thats what took for people to woke up that the state is totally corrupt.
>>2829907>thats what took for people to woke up that the state is totally corrupt.i think they knew before. just because people are mad at the latest shitty thing that happened doesn't mean it was the first thing they were mad about
>>2829548It's good to enjoy life. Learn to fall in love with yourself. People aren't obligated to like you or respect you, but when you look in the mirror, you can still love what you see.
>>2829907>Plastic speculator fucks up and cosigns his investment to a business and is surprised when he gets shaftedcrazy how much people give a shit about this
>>2829738>So what do you think of IDF Signifier?He put out a 'Why I left the
white left' today.
I feel some comrades in my org are just depressed stoners or chain smokers who's only source of hope is being a communist. It feels kind of weird.
>>2829949Most orgs are support groups for alienated communists.
>>2829951Fuck thats too real I need a smoke
>>2829672Oh joy, Haz is still a idiot who wants to smash things. He is nothing but a provocateur that says anything to get clout. He is a pointless retard who will never have any power. and BE is also a idiot, saying anything to get clout and rage bait.
TL;DR Stop believing these pathetic retards, they will never have power and are nothing but a bunch of retards and contrarians that want clout and money.
>>2829953BE and Haz are still right tho, gamers are cattle.
>>2829960Why are internet addicts better than gamers?
>>2829960Of course you'd think that. God I swear this website is nothing but full of contrarians and people who hate any sort of fun.
And again, you're falling for a pair of retards who will say anything to get clout. They have never been right about anything, stop simping for pseudo-leftist (read: fascist) retards on the internet and form your own options.
>>2829951How do I avoid judging my comrades? I already know that I'm no better myself and they are far better communists that I could ever be, but I hate when they indulge too much in drugs.
>>2829960It's like
>>2827316 said about BE
>Bro literally left Australia - the highest HDI country on Earth - to be a digital nomad in a gentrified suburb of Buenos Aires full of crakkker expats who don't have to pay taxes - and thinks that makes him equally as third world as someone living in the favela or in a Sub-Saharan African/Indian corrugated sheet metal slum house with no access to clean water.And Haz is a LaRouchite retard pretending to be a communist. Not only that but In a livestream, Haz claimed that rights in a communist society would be derived from the Bible and Quran and that communism and theocracy are the "same thing.",
Haz is a conservative/fascist retard pretending to be a communist.
>>2829964I'm not simping, i just said that they were right about a thing. I'm not gonna defend then if you say you hate then or disagree with their points because i'm not a parasocial fan of ecelebs, lol. Having said that gamers who make videogames their intire identity and think gaming is a serious political issue are still cattle, look at asmongold for example
>>2829963>Why are internet addicts better than gamers?They are not, they are even worse
>>2829953>He is nothing but a provocateur that says anything to get cloutthats how trump won though
>>2829987animals in Africa, important distinction
>>2829953Retarded idpol brained anarchists shitting on Haz is really making me consider checking him out.
>>2829959Trump scaring corporations into shutting up about idpol has been a net positive. Who gives a fuck about their freedom of speech, and every previous attempt of their's at being inclusive has done nothing except give fascists more ammo
>>2830011It's an important distinction because the heightened flight response of wild animals to humans and human sounds/voices does in part explain the lack of domestication of animals there. Out of Africa humans started domesticating animals all along their migration routes.
>>2830008Thing is that both Haz (now) and BE crumble in live debates
>>2830016Gamers got the anti-woke slop (Gacha and coomer games) they want but it turns out it's even more predatory and the quality is even lower, if not considerably much lower. Shonen anime is also kind of slumping ATM too from all the repetitive wish fulfillment fantasies.
>>2829672BE not beating the lolcow allegations
view wise BE is doing horribly the fuck happened? I remember when he had like 100k or so on average
>>2830041Probably cause he pissed off Hasan fans.
>>2830041His YouTube viewership dropped but now he gets +1000k viewers on stream.
>>2830041Personally, after the 10000th ethan klein slop video I stopped paying attention
Unrelated but generally speaking I think the purpose of the redscarepod and other such dark enlightenment places is that they exist to shore up clout for the right as cool and edgy rather than mostly boomer and twitch chud pilled. Thus making it more attractive for women and men alike to become a rightiod but your average chud grug is very very cringe, this is what I call "Clout as a currency" it is basically superstructural capital that basically nuked pride month as a whole (Nobody is doing it now) and made being trans illegal but the cost of this is that more and more people think that chuds are weak ugly retards. However /lit/ and redscarepod are basically the farm from warcraft or pylons from starcraft, thus granting even more superstuctural capital. The actual material base however is more akin to gold and lumber which have a finite resource rather than the farms in warcraft. In any sort of culture war you are going to have people who lose clout, Sydney Sweeney is a lost hero unit, Asmongold is still kicking but he's fallen off somewhat with his zoomer pope status being challenged as more women turn chud and more men turn left for example.
>>2829738kamala's strongest soldier, a modern day oskar schindler saving jews from the zootopian holocaust.
>>2830041Turns out being an annoying asshole who picks fights with everyone doesn't make people like you.
>>2830127how is having sex bad
I am too chubby to send nudes to regular people but fat fetishists will also shit on my physique too. The plight of being mid-weight.
>>2830127A seperate laptop for porn is smart.
Indian Motorcycles is apparently hiring conservative influencers to attack Harley Davidson as being gay. No relationship to actual gay bikers.
>THE CONSERVATIVE INFLUENCERS have spoken: Harley-Davidson—whose motorcycles helped create the paradigm of American masculinity—is in fact woke and gay.
>The past week has seen wave after wave of MAGA personalities and meme accounts decide, seemingly out of nowhere, that Harley-Davidson was company non grata. MAGA influencer Priya Patel declared the manufacturer “fundamentally anti-American,” while Hercules actor-turned-tweeter Kevin Sorbo said his friends were abandoning Harley-Davidson en masse.
>Conservative meme account “Prison Mitch” told his more than 100,000 followers that Harley-Davidson is “woke and gay” then posted a picture of a man in a biker’s vest having gay sex (jarring but basically SFW), quipping that Harley-Davidson riders rode a very different kind of “hog.”
>Right-wing attacks on supposedly liberal corporations aren’t new. But, beyond the confrontational imagery, this campaign against the motorcycle giant stands out for the fact that Harley-Davidson doesn’t appear to have done anything terribly “woke.”
>Instead, the effort seems designed squarely just to benefit Indian Motorcycle, a Harley rival. How can you tell? Because basically every influencer throwing a grenade at Harley is also simultaneously boosting its competitor. Prison Mitch, for example, posted a Marco Rubio meme with the secretary of state in an Indian biker’s vest.
>“Harley Davidson spent years pandering to activists and corporate DEI politics,” complained pro-Trump personality Isabella Maria DeLuca, who is not a noted motorcycle enthusiast. “Indian Motorcycle spent years building motorcycles and honoring American heritage.”[…]
>The bizarre storm began on Wednesday, when mixed martial arts fighter Sean Strickland posted that he was ditching Harley-Davidson motorcycles for the, in his view, substantially less woke Indian Motorcycle.
>“Officially made the switch to Indian Motorcycle,” Strickland wrote. “What does Indian stand for? No fucking clue, the way it should be. Everytime I got on my harley I was indirectly supporting radical idealogy [sic] that actually pushing radical idealogy [sic] on children.
>“There is no going back from that,” he concluded.https://substack.com/inbox/post/200205206Why are people on the internet, in public social networks, so rude for no reason? Like you made a public post with open replies in a social network that shows your posts to others and I'm the weird one for leaving a completely reasonable non-confrontational reply about videogames? Geez Louise man
>>2830202Throw all these "MAGA influencer" degenerates in prison please.
>>2830208there's no penalty for being an asshole, so the rate of assholes is higher than anywhere else
>>2830139If you're a (cis) woman, nobody will care how your body looks so long as they have ur nudes.
If you're a guy, yeah you're fucked.
>>2830202motorcycles in general are probably the gayest mode of transportation. even a bicycle is not as gay because at least the rider is doing all the work pedaling, but with a motorcycle it's just this big powerful engine right up against your ass, pounding your ass down the highway at a hundred miles an hour whilst you grip the handlebars holding on for dear life telling yourself that you're the one who is really in control even though you know in the back of your head that this dangerous wild machine could betray you at any moment and send you straight to the emergency room.
>>2829672>holy men with hammers will smash the gamecubesif temperance movement taught us anything, it will be holy women. they will lead the fat husbands out of plato's cave, just as they did with alcohol
>>2830273The US legalized that shit in like 8 years afterwards.
>>2830278yes and still. haz wont smash a single gamecube. soyjak's wife will
>>2830288They just bitch about it on reddit.
Internet MLs are more wreckers than demsocs, anarchists, leftcoms combined these days.
So it was confirmed that Houdini is dating a 19 year old? Lmao
>>2830335He's denied the allegations, how was it confirmed?
>>2830323Trvthnvke. The sectarian bullshit and LARPing coming from them is really insufferable
>>2830323If internet MLs are so insufferable why aren't you shitposting on a fucking demsoc, anarchist, or trot website?
>>2829672this has to be trolling right?
>>2830409This is not an ML website or an ML board. If you didn't throw a fit every time someone disagrees with the campist's favorite nation of the month or mentions Bordiga, Kautsky, Trotsky, Pannekoek etc. nobody would complain about the "MLs"
>>2829672If you can’t tell from the thumbnail and contents of the video that it’s satire then you’re an autist
>>2830127this is just helping hasans popularity
>>2830409This is a demsoc website
>>2829672>>2830422It's satire until the end, when he basically says "you should get better hobbies that develop you as a person".
The thing is, listening to barely literate midwits for hours on stream reading Twitter hottakes isn't exactly a better hobby than watching Marvel slop or being a Taylor Swift fan.
I would even argue that Swifties have more emotional and social intelligence and genuine human contacts with people around them than the average nerd who develops a parasocial relationship with people like BE or Haz. Most redditors who watch Marvel slop have a wife, a job and a normal family life, and don't spend their whole free time arguing with maladjusted Twitter addicts.
And the irony is that 99% of their fanbases are gamers, they are basically spitting on their niche audience.
>>2830323it's all posting. they're not wrecking shit.
>>2830407Its so funny to disavow platner, especially this late in the game, as if the election wasn't up to like 20,000 voters in Maine and platner hadnt met them all personally by now.
>>2830738I think it's nonsense parasocial politics mostly, but it is very cynical for people like Hasan to attach themselves to Platner even though a) has a is materially irrelevant to a campaign that is being mostly carried on the ground b) platner is a war criminal. It's pathetic careerism.
>>2830742True, but having a war criminal who would vote for more gibs is better than one that wants to take shit away from you. On a purely selfish level.
>>2830794I don't give a fuck man, sorry
What's some LeftyPol APPROVED Youtubers to follow? Is Cuck Philosophy a genuine good leftist youtuber?
>>2830794this whole beef with FD has been really stupid.
>>2830797What do you mean you don't give a fuck about my favourite sloptuber?
>>2830801when are we going to have a hasan AMA
>>28307941 sloptuber changed his mind after weeks of constant harassment by another sloptuber.
Another epic win for Palestine and Multipolarism!
>>2830799I think BE is about it. Only when he is shitting on the west not when he attacks Serbia
>>2830738it has nothing to do with being pure. i don't care if platner wins, because it's not a victory for anti imperialism, anti zionism, not even the american proletariat in maine. you're just electing some petty bourgeois democrat war criminal who pretended to be lefty in order to win a race. what makes me mad is nobody learned any lessons:
>never believe a politician's rhetoric>don't trust petty bourgeois>don't trust imperialist troops>don't trust a guy who's entire life story contradicts who campaign>don't trust a guy with an AIPAC brother in law>don't trust a guy who pretends to be anti war after working for blackwaterthe naivete is what makes me mad, not the voting for him. you can vote for platner while admitting he's sus, but what I saw instead was this huge resistance to the idea that he was sus while smearing everyone who pointed at his entire life of serving zionism as "hasbara".
>>2830844Is he a ukrainoid?
Im gonna bring up so old topics.
What are the following up to nowadays
>Soygon of Cuckkad
>PJW
>Gavin McCinnes
>Stefan Molyneux
>Stephen Crowder
>ThatGuyT
>Lauren Southern
>Baked Alaska
>BadEmpanada
>Laura Loomer
>>2830862Bad empanada is the only person who is still relevant in your tweet
>>2830875is he still a freak?
>>2830794BE struck gold with becoming a secondary character in the h3 vs. Hasan drama. He has been trying to recapture that ever since and it's getting sad. This latest beef got no juice whatsoever. A guy who's famous for talking about hip hop and movies or some shit won't say ZOG, let's make 10 videos about that. Who the fuck cares.
>>2830967You dont understand the dialectical relationship between the US and Israel.
I think its safe two say that both countries have a Zionist Ocxupied Government, or simply ZOG for short.
I don't see what the problem is and why so many leftoids (liberals) are afraid to say it.
>>2830970>both countries have a Zionist Ocxupied GovernmentThe zionist regime is occupied by itself?
>>2830970I don't understand the autistic attachment to that term in particular. Say literally any other equivalent phrase that doesn't have historical baggage.
>>2830970example of zionist occupation is palestine and lebanon. america is a collaborator in zionist occupation that has been bribed and blackmailed. to that extent it is not a victim of zionist occupation but a collaborator. refute this point directly. furthermore "ZOG" is a slogan coined by burgerfat nazoids in the 1970s, which is why leftoids are hesitant to use it. it's like saying pretending 1488 is an anti imperialist slogan. to refuse to say ZOG is not to be pro-zionism, but against the framing of America as a victim of zionist occupation. Palestine and Lebanon are real victims of Zionist occupation.
>>2830970>You dont understand the dialectical relationship between the US and Israel.i explained it perfectly. the US is bribed and blackmaild by Israel. Israel is given weapons by the USA. palestine is actually occupied by zionists. the USA and israel are merely zionist by nature. there is no rescuing the US government from zionism because it was founded on anglo-prot zionism, AKA manifest destiny.
>>2830975no actually you're autistic for noticing the history and context behind the slogan, say 1488 now or you don't really love palestine like i do
>>2830975There's clearly an element of internet edgelordism to it. Saying ZOG makes liberals mad so it's now a mandatory shibboleth despite being a dumb framing where the US is a victim, and despite the fact that it was coined by american neo-nazis who used ZOG to mean, like, race-mixing and shit.
I occasionally chuckle when someone is called a "zog slave" or something similar but it's still retarded.
>>2830978>it's like saying pretending 1488 is an anti imperialist slogan.Someone should get BE to start saying 1488 now lol
Think of the Earth and the moon.
We we agree that the moon revolves around the earth, this is the primary relationship.
Now to say the moon has no effect on the earth is absurd.
The moon controls parts of the earth.
Can controlling here not be considered ocupied?
People simply do not like the origin of the word ZOG despite it being quite an accurate description of the material condition of things.
To say Heidegger didnt bring new thought to metaphysics and ignore him is the same as to ignore ZOG.
The nazis made alot of shit we use today in daily life, LSD, rockets, etc.
5o completely abandon a word due its origin is illogical and liberal.
>>2830990>Can controlling here not be considered ocupied?No that's not what occupation means. Palestine is occupied. The USA is not, it's the perpetrator enabling the occupation of Palestine.
>>2830995So let me get this straight.
If people sworn to idealogy, give money to every single politician and public figure to ensure they all say the same thing, thus keeping their population under their control; this is not occupying?
>>2830875Laura Loomer is the real president of the United States
>>2830970So Israel would be fine if it didn't have a ZOG? And we're supposed to be the liberal Zionists?
My final question to you.
Are there zionists working in our government?
If there are then do zionists not occupy our government?
>>2830995Wrong. Bourgeois Euro"amerikan" lumpen immigrant colonizers occupy land they call amerika.
>>2830994but the word, the grouping of letters, the sound it represents, is just an icon. one that to most people does not even represent the idea you would like it to. no one is saying throw away the idea, they're saying change the icon. if you understand how language works colloquially you will also understand that this is a necessity. you can't epic reddit debate away the perception of the term.
>>2830590>The thing is, listening to barely literate midwits for hours on stream reading Twitter hottakes isn't exactly a better hobby than watching Marvel slop or being a Taylor Swift fan.When did BE suggest people should do that?
All he said is that it’s better to spend your time on hobbies that build you as a person for example researching history.
>I would even argue that Swifties have more emotional and social intelligence You would be wrong to argue that.
>and genuine human contacts with people around them than the average nerd who develops a parasocial relationship with people like BE or Haz.Sure people who have parasocial relationships with streamers are annoying but most BE fans are less parasocial than most swifties and unlike Taylor Swift BE has made a conscious effort to stop his fans from forming parasocial relationships with him.
>Most redditors who watch Marvel slop have a wife, a job and a normal family life,Most “redditors” don’t exist, half of reddit is bots.
Do you think that people who watch your designated hated streamer don’t have jobs and families? I hope you realise that that’s a form of parasocialism aswell, who don’t know these people personally and these caricatures you’ve drawn up don’t exist.
>and don't spend their whole free time arguing with maladjusted Twitter addicts.But they do spend there free time arguing with maladjusted reddit addicts, which they are themselves.
>And the irony is that 99% of their fanbases are gamers, Once again, you’re being parasocial. You don’t know these people personally and wether or not they’re gamers.
>they are basically spitting on their niche audience.Idk the comment seems to agree with BE.
>>2830978>>2830989Stalin talked about how supporting the Emir of Afghanistan helped defeat British imperialism. Campists currently argue that supporting a capitalist theocracy in Iran is anti-imperialist. Using the same argument we should support white nationalism to help start an ethnic based civil war and weaken the American empire. Therefore 1488 is an anti-imperialist slogan.
>>2830994Heidegger was a fuck head.
Read Adorno
>>2831133Yeah who can forget when the Bolsheviks supported the Black Hundreds to weaken the Russian Empire
>>2831150Black hundreds wanted to support the monarchy while white nationalism would destroy the US empire. US only gets away with it's shit by pretending to be a freedom loving democracy fighting tyranny. Leftists know it all pretend but average person doesn't. Third worlders actually think if they moved to the US they can achieve the "American Dream." Third worlders work hard making American porky rich and stabbing their own working class in the back. But the instant the US declares everyone but whites will be slaves even potential collaborators will think twice about running to put a chain around their neck.
Seriously why do you think capitalist liberals love Hamilton and other "anti-racist" media that tries to show how accepting America is? Because by pretending to accept non-whites they get self motivated POC workers who throw their entire lives into capitalism. White nationalism completely destroys this illusion.
>>2831133I believe it. JDPON don has done a pretty good job at ending the usian empire.
>>2831133I hate this quotemining shit. You ever think he supported the Emir of Afghanistan not because it was historically progressive but because it would be useful for the Soviet Union not to have a BOG (british occupied government) on their border?
>>2829548How much did he have to pay her to be in this pic?
>>2831194The same goes or at least went for foreign policy of most states including Russia, Iran and China. Surely they won't bomb me, I got nukes or Hormuz or rare earth metals. Again, they're not always wrong, it looks like they are backing off from China at least in a direct military confrontation sense.
>>2831195And even if it was something third worlders didn't know, now they do because the internet is a thing. Many black children in Uganda or whatever are certainly listening to gamergate/incel slop right now because mobile phones got incredibly cheap for what they can do and that's just what you talk about on the internet basically.
>>2831162>while white nationalism would destroy the US empireIt would not, it wouldn't change much at all, US was white nationalist for most of its history and did just fine. It's basically white nationalist now
>US only gets away with it's shit by pretending to be a freedom loving democracy fighting tyrannyWrong, it gets away with it because of pic rel
>Leftists know it all pretend but average person doesn'tYou underestimate the intellectual capacity of the average person. Most people understand America is not some bastion of democracy and freedom. It's actually a bit passe to make such a trite observation to most people
>Third worlders actually think if they moved to the US they can achieve the "American Dream."third worlders think they can receive higher wages for the same work in the US, which they can
Millions of people don't migrate to the first world because they are "tricked" into it you dumb asshole, they do it because they have an economic incentive to do so. This incentive would remain regardless of if the American ruling class considers itself of calls itself openly white nationalist
>US was white nationalist for most of its history and did just fine. It's basically white nationalist now
not true, the US never considered itself as an exclusively white nation, it was a contested issue that got strongly resolved in 1867, the US however has been white supremacist consistently
>>2831200Poland reminding everyone they are the ultimate cucks.
>>2831211This is splitting hairs, until the 1960s black people were not considered equal citizens with full rights compared to white people. That's white nationalist enough for me
>>2831199Is he a coomer brained porn addict?
Lots of the new left is, they view their transgender only fans subscriptions praxis.
>>2831199They are really going after Hasan
>>2831264pickled garloid, tastes like shit.
>>2831256they won at grifting a bunch of conservative petty dudes in the USA into thinking that communism is when you give haz and hinkle money so they can drink champagne and smoke cigars and be gym rats in different countries
>>2831223he dated janice griffith for a while
>>2831019wrongschizo is back
>>2831273Honestly that's the dream dude they got it figured out. Imagine getting paid to larp like that
>>2831264Looks like pickled pineapple with koolaid mixed in.
Why is yugopnik shilling crypto? The deprogram more like the reprogram
>>2831317Yugo fell off dude. It's a shame, he was always my fav
<French-Iranian author Marjane Satrapi, author of 'Persepolis', dies of 'sadness' at 56https://www.france24.com/en/culture/20260604-french-iranian-author-marjane-satrapi-author-of-persepolis-dies-at-56Her husband died last year.
>>2831317>crypto lol what. shame i thought he was one of the less grift ones
>>2831317>>2831319>>2831337his xitter account got hacked
>>2831326That Mountain Dew looks like it tastes good
White supremacists discovering for the first time the concept of the crisis of overproduction and realising that the white race needs communism, too. So cute!
https://counter-currents.com/2026/06/the-robot-hotdog-stand/(Warning: Neo-Klansmen website!)
>>2831328
>Woman whose family was murdered by SHITslamists is not friendly towards the iRANian regime and thus must be a zionist!
TanKKKiddies are pathetic.
>>2831365
Imagine comparing a communist party to clergy loving faggots.
Couldn't make it up, honestly.
>>2831368Both are historically progressive.
>>2831402whoever said it, they're not wrong. I know most don't agree with haz (and neither do I tbh) but the statement is not wrong. most of these non class struggle movements want exactly that, homo, queer friendly, forced diversity techno fascism. I mean I thought this was already an established belief of the left
>>2831256as much as I hate these fuckers, you cant lie, the progress they'ver made as a group is remarkable. I don't just mean spreading online popularity, but I also see these guys doing great community action, organizing Marches and protests. they're very small in scale, but the effort is there, the planning anf organization and praxis is there. wish we could replicate some of that, but most of us typical ML's are just internet warrior losers moralists who go out of our way to shit on any kind of movement for not being ideologically pure, while not building one ourselves
>>2831411Hasan goes Gorsky-mode
Anyone watch this youtuber?
https://www.youtube.com/@rohanxdavis/videosHe has some really good videos about the history of India and current resistance against hindutva fascism.
>>2831425yeah i watched a few seems p good but npt quite marxist enough
>>2831425Yea i do occasionally. @arunannow is also prety good.
>>2831422two retards fighting
>>2831411>>2831412Thiel is the perfect example of a literally gay techno-fascist
>>2831510I saw that live, is this the first time this happened?
>>2831412My own personal reaction to this stuff is that homophobia is wrapped up in an irrational fear of being perceived as gay more than anything else. It doesn't really have much to do with actual gay people. It's not "making gay jokes" either or making fun of a particular gay person, or depicting gay men as something other than magic fairy elves who exist to reaffirm liberals in what they already believe. That's that Woke 1.0 stuff where if you depict gays as antagonists or villainous in media then GLAAD will be up your ass about it.
I don't get the feeling that Hasan has any fear of being perceived as gay, like he's just this himbo who likes to bantz and if in the same room as a gay guy he'd say he'd put him out of business if he happened to be gay. That could be funny. With a guy like Haz even the implication that he could possibly be gay could provoke a violent reaction if going by his manic Twitter threads on the subject. Generally speaking what a lot of homophobic men share is an incredibly fragile ego, fear of ridicule, a lot of overcompensating projected outwards. Also relatively common among lumpen hoodrats and criminals, like how people get shot for perceived insults or disrespect.
>>2831663Platner really has the establishment scared
>>2831598I legitimately wonder what he thinks of us
>>2831408Maybe your precious theocrats shouldn't have murdered so many other anti-imperialist if they really wanted their support down the line. But what are you even complaining about? Allah is so powerful he will surely save his clergy from Yahweh's golems, right?
>>2831642Skull and bones are cool. Militarizes all over the world and throughout history use them as symbols. Pretending it is exclusively nazi is insane. Reminds me of the story when some kid dressed up in an East German uniform for Halloween and the retard Americans though it was a nazi uniform and had him expelled lol
>>2831663The accusation must be taken seriously. An investigation should be launched into the matter.
>>2831642He's either so much of an ignorant uneducated sub 100 autism score crayon eater dumbass that he genuinely didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo (in which case is he really the best fit for the responsibility of a senator?) or he lied about it. In the end, whether or not he lied about knowing it was a Nazi tattoo is not the most important thing. It's the mountain of other shit that is most concerning. Or should have been most concerning to those who blindly pushed his candidacy and endorsed him.
tldr on the latest Platter shit? Some random ex came forward with some accusations or what
>>2829672no more game, no more streamer, no more anime
>>2831713yeah his zionist ex. and rightoids are now #believeallwomen feminists suddenly
>>2831719That shouldn't bother leftists who have been #believeallwomen for a long time. Surely leftists agree these accusations should be taken seriously and investigated?
>>2831729believeallwomen was always a liberal feminist movement to give upper class women an edge in capitalist competition. Western leftists as usual just tried to grasp any random protest movement to despite obvious pitfalls. Real accusations need evidence not just gossip mongering by zionist ex girlfriends.
But who knows it could be real but really besides the point since Platner is running on some lib atoning for the past redemption story. If he's smart he will ignore everything and let the story blow over but he's not really the brightest bulb so we'll see
>>2831365
Hee family were communists you fucking tanKKKiddie, LARPer.
>>2831133Except that white nationalism wouldn’t hurt the U.S. empire. At least you tried tho.
a lot of suspicious on xitter the xvxrything xpp (relatively new accounts with very few previous posts) defending graham platner with very samey posts. most common template is implying that criticism of platner is advocacy for susan collins.
>>2831846wow. a suspiciously cropped screenshot.
>>2831365
The islamists executed her uncle for being a communist.
>>2831847Is this cope? There are like 4 posts on r/livestreamfails in the last minute alone.
>>2831851and you posted none of them
>>2831854Exactly, now cope and seethe more. Ethan lost. Q lost. Sharty lost.
>>2831846Well that’s good news. It’s great to see Ethan Klein get a reality check.
I also want denims to sit on my face.
>>2831923Nobody takes them seriously now because most of the left by this point embraced either populism or Marxism. These people will still affect the DNC but they are despised or ignored by everyone aside from Warren/Kamala shills.
Crazy that a Hunter Biden X Hasan Stream still hasn't happened.
>>2831935That's an inversion and a lie, left-populist and marxists were full of people like this. These people were calling the shots on the left from Occupy to peak woke until they ragequit and turned on us because we werent transphobic enough while the corporate DNC promptly ignored them from the start. Bernie on the other hand got easely subverted and they crashed his whole brand.
There is a reason UK Labour got subverted, and is now collapsin too, and not the DNC.
Corporate Democrats have surprisingly good antibodies that filter out these people, their seemingly naive corporate wokeness keep the feminist subvertors and the ethnic strivers at bay only the true believers stay in.
>>2831937Hunter was on channel 5 so i think it's a question of time
>>2831950That's pretty clear
>>2831954it's sad that you think this is clear
>>2831958My brother in christ why can't you have a normal one in jungle massive two thousand and twenty six groyper
>>2831994Graham Platner got it, funnily
>>2831988He should sue the judge
>>2831986It's always this macho posturing between these two when they're together, mostly coming from Hinkle who seems completely checked out, so gay
>>2831986I am sure that at some point, they awkwardly kissed while drunk and both enjoyed it but then never spoke of it again and avoided all touch after that point.
>>2832036True. But it's not just dads.
>>2831986The edit itself is funny and kind of kino even though the message doesn't make sense at all
>>2832036I love coming home to my boywife having made me dinner, but at the same time you can't exactly expect someone to wait on you hand and foot if they're also working 40 hours a week. If you financially support your partner then they should treat you like a god when you get home though true
>>2832036both partners work these days so this is just a "RETVRN TO EARLIER PHASE OF CAPITALISM" type reaction to declining conditions
>>2831642The tattoo bullshit was a non-issue because it's just a skull and crossbones tattoo. Marines are retards they're not going to know obscure historical symbols. You can find redditors asking for advice because they didn't it resembled SS imagery, just like nobody here knew it was either until people started talking about it.
This other shit is just angry ex girlfriends and I'm supposed to believe them solely based on their word. Sorry, but women lie sometimes, oh look:
>>2831663This is all just a media circus by the democratic establishment too. His politics are right in line with a Bernie Sanders so if you support him you have no justification for denying him. It's just a lib-out. I don't even vote but this shit is fucking stupid and you kids are falling for it so easily. Half of you morons defend Gucci Loafer Socialism Hasan here daily and yet a skull tattoo is gets you to freak out.
Any argument against this is fundamentally stupid too. Does Platner support Nazi-based politics, yes or no? No? He's not a Nazi so shut the fuck up already.
>>2832190>His politics are right in line with a Bernie Sandersso he is a zionist
>Does Platner support Nazi-based politics, yes or no?he is a zionazi by your own admission, so yes
>>2832189He doesn't like the feminisation stuff otherwise absolutely yes
>>2832190>Does Platner support Nazi-based politics, yes or no? Yes, he is literally an American Einsatzkommando and brags about it constantly. He is on record as saying he wished he could have fought in more wars and killed more people, including the genocide of indigenous Americans. His entire platform is the re-armament of America to fight a war against China, who he views as an existential threat to the American way of life. He is a nazi all the way around.
Is it even possible to live outside the spectacle? I've thrown my phone out and it just doesn't matter. I feel like I'm going into psychosis, there's no escape.
>>2832190>Marines are retards they're not going to know obscure historical symbols.they roughly understand them to be evil symbology meant to intimidate their victims by invoking what's understood to be one of the biggest atrocities in history. they get these tattoos to show that they're the face of death to impoverished iraqi peasants. really, the reason why there's no fuzz is because americans can't conceptualize arabs as people, so it's ok to go around with "genocide" inscribed all over your chest as you mow through iraqi children
>>2832190>Marines are retardsThen he is not fit to be a senator. Such a retard can be tricked into doing anything by the snakes in DC.
> I'm supposed to believe them solely based on their wordYou're supposed to take the accusations seriously and not dismiss them out of hand. Does this really need to be explained to people in
this website? Society such as it is today, through a series of culturally ingrained attitudes makes it difficult and sometimes undesirable for abused women to come forward with accusations.
>His politics are right in line with a Bernie SandersSome of his politics align with Bernie that is true. For example he is a liberal zionist. His politics regarding the USA military and USA imperialism align 100% with the average republican. He wants to expand the USA military, pay USA volunteers better, and to restore the domestic military industrial complex production capacity so that the PRC does not get ahead of the USA.
>Does Platner support Nazi-based politicsYes. Better conditions for USA workers and a robust welfare state for USA workers without dismantling the USA's global exploitation system is national socialism.
The Fight Agency/AOC/Hasan Piker alliance should have found a better candidate. Now they are stuck blaming the public for their own fuck ups. "The progressives can't fail, they can only be failed!" they say.
>>2831988the most obvious outcome ever, i'm surprised the retard didn't drop the lawsuit, i guess he thought one of the biggest e-thots wouldn't be able to conjure up the lawyer money for some reason
>>2832219>Then he is not fit to be a senatorwhy would you want competent senators? because you're an imperialist that wants a strong american empire?
>>2832212>Is it even possible to live outside the spectacle?you need to wait until the spectacle itself collapses which it will, collapse, eventually
>>2832217Furthermore Platner is an educated man from a wealthy family and assuming he's "just some retard" is covering for him. He knew exactly what a Totenkopf means, and that's why he got it. He is an American Einsatzkommando, and he is PROUD of this fact.
>>2832273I know educated people who know shit about history. I can easily see a situation where some sort of over educated but uncurious man would just think it's a cool punisher thing. Being ahistorical (Outside of having an interest in the Roman Empire) is like the most American male thing there is
>>2832278No, Platner made it clear through his Reddit posts that he represents EXACTLY what the Totenkopf represents. It doesn't even matter if he is entirely aware of the history of the SS when he is serving the same purpose in society that the SS did in Nazi Germany.
>>2832278>some sort of over educated but uncurious man would just think it's a cool punisher thing.nevermind that this is grasping for straws, you say this as if tattooing the "cool punisher skull thing" wasn't like literally advertising "i want to commit war crimes with impunity like my capeshit hero does"
>>2832040
>If you were a real communist you'd have supported the theocratically regime that murdered hundreds of your comrades under CIA and Mossad orders
The STATE of tanKKKiddies
>>2832219>Better conditions for USA workers and a robust welfare state for USA workersThe Nazis made conditions worse for German workers.
>>2832190>This is all just a media circus by the democratic establishment too. His politics are right in line with a Bernie Sanders so if you support him you have no justification for denying him. It's just a lib-out. The circus is pretty funny but I think 90% of it is probably based on social class background / social cues from people in different settings, things like that, but people are sort of repressed and don't say that openly, so they have to talk around it while increasingly doubling down and getting angrier at each other.
There was this Democratic consultant from Los Angeles who worked for Rob Reiner saying Platner is dangerous because he plays with guns and likes axes. (Funny thing is the consultant got fired from a campaign once for threatening to "put a bullet" through the forehead of an opponent.) Contrapoints is anti-Platner. James Carville who is very Dem establishment is pro-Platner and sounds kind of personally pissed off because he's a redneck from Louisiana.
>>2832389>getting comrades arrested by fedpostingimpeccable anarchist praxis. rev and reve is peak anarchism.
>>2832323non-sequitur. don't reply.
>>2832036they finally made a divorced dads charity. I'd be advocating for better paternity and maternity leave, cheaper childcare and education. how many stay at home mums even are there? this shit is niche.
fuck this creepy wifebeater bullshit.
>>2832445Based druggy failson
>>2831923As someone who is trans, she kind of has a point. While not all trans people are privileged the ones who can afford surgical procedures ike FFS, SRS, etc. usually come from at least a middle class background.
>>2832451But what's the point? You're more likely to be attractive as a cis person if you're rich as well, does that make that inherently bourgeois or whatever dumb shit?
>>2832445bros do you think he ever posted on 420chan? is he /our guy/?
>>2832445Dangerously based
>>2832486Mfs said the same thing about 2016 and then 2012 before it
>>2832445thats it im becoming a democrat, fuck I just came
I never understood what anons meant by becoming reddit
>>2832491they were right the first time
Can we get a "TOTAL NEPO BABY DEATH" in the comments of this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9jIOdt2QRg>>2832508They're just using reddit to mean cringe
>>2832530Reddit is a specific type of cringe because their karma system. Everyone writes with a saccharine tone has bland unoffensive opinions and throws in Whedonesque quips in order to get as many upvotes as possible. Feels like a grown adult trying to act like a cutesy child with a falsetto voice.
>>2832335IMO what they are doing is reframing criticism of Platner to things that are in control of the partisan PR mechanisms. So now both sides will vociferously yell about Platner's exes, his cringe posting, irrelevant personal shortcomings and such. Because obviously, there is no contest to theactual criticisms of Platner being a mask Fight Agency and it's funders are wearing. Much of the lore they built the character around, being demonstrably false,from being an actual neonazi to a nepo rich failson.
And also, the man constantly demonstrates having no agency whatsoever. He's skipping all debates and cannot appear in public without reading a written statement or having an obsequious team of bought and paid for "journalists" lead his every word. And even then, he manages to catch himself in his own lies sometimes.
It makes a lot more sense if you look at it not from the adversarial PoV. But from the need to "pad" a flimsy fictitious character with inocuous bullshit that can be safely discussed. Because the "old" Platner character was too damaged by the leaks, to obscure how the political sausage is done. And since he's a plant for largely bipartisan interests, both sides are invested in blotting that out.
>>2832548 (me)
The problem with Platner is that it makes it too easy to see how the sausage is made. From the media marching in lockstep with demonstrable lies, to the PR industrial complex.
What the character was given to work with, by Fight Agency, has become toxic. So now there needs to be a lot of other stuff to dilute the problem and, from the resulting culture war discourse, begin building a better character. Like with Mamdani (And Fetterman!), these people work mostly through negative polarization. It enables to build a character mostly through implicit traits, signalled through antagonism. Besides the PR advantages of never having to make a stand on anything, it actually builds loyalty on the retarded people who fall for it.
Afterall, the Graham Platner they know, is 80% of their own making, in their head. Inferred from the discourse and their own biases and so tailor made to be whatever they want. Like an obsessive delusional fan, constructing an elaborate parasocial relationship. Except that just normal nowadays, as well. So when, or if, the man is afforded a seat and behaves like the sock-puppet he is, the fans, because that's what they are, will be easier to gaslight into revising their own head-canon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Katz_(political_strategist) >>2832547That is one ugly kid.
>>2832630Pretty sure Iceland has eliminated DS by this exact practice.
Being retarded sounds like existential hell. I wouldn't want to be born retarded. I couldn't form social relationships like others, I cant labor, I cant reason. Absolutely hell.
>>2832630rightoids think your should have the kid. but bully it and call it retarted.
>>2832552>KatzAnd people thought Ziohran was gonna stand up to israel.
>>2832630>McJuggerNuggetsnow there's a name i haven't heard in a long time
>>2831200The fuck is this color gradient, maybe my eyes have problems but this map is unreadable.
https://houdinimagazine.com/articles/2026-06-05-chris-smalls-houdini-rebukes-jacobin-racist-hit-piece-amazon-labor-founderYou're about to read a piece that calls Jacobin magazine's attack on Chris Smalls exactly what it is: a racist hit piece. Some people are going to say we're too harsh. That we're fracturing the left, that this is an unfair attack on the DSA’s Reform & Revolution Caucus. That we should play nice.
We don't care.
In a world that proclaims victory over history in the midst of empire collapse, how do we locate the gaps where new realities form?
HOUDINI magazine contributors, writer M.M. Ferguson Cashiola [MMF] (
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Drawing from Derrida, Marx, spectacle studies and the classical political economists, this 8-page zine asks to stop waiting for the messiah and start facing the specters that are already here. The ghosts that surround us move under moon cover. "How the Night Moves" is a study on the phantasms we exclude from our "end of history," and the socialist promise of breaking the alienation and returning the human essence to itself.
Previously a Patreon exclusive, now released for free on itch.io as part of our Zine-O-Rama II jam.
https://houdini-magazine.itch.io/how-the-night-moves-zine-houdini-magazine>>2832757Thats embarrassing. None of them except Eddie are in that sort of shape. Then with the fake muscles it makes Eddie look even worse. Im suprised he agreed to it.
>>2832757They mass produce shit like this tbf I doubt these guys have a lot of direct oversight over it
>>2832630Aye Ramzpaul. I remember I used to watch him all the way through 2012-2015
>>2832445This white boy has a lot of soul.
>>2831986>cosmic order<total right-wing spookeryYeah, Haz is a right-winger pretending to be a communist. God this macho posturing by those ACP types is pathetic.
>>2831986It took me a while to see it but i've realize that haz, logo daedalus and everyone around that ciricle is a moron with a massive ego.
>>2832445His handler has a way with words
So, what's the political angle for rehabilitating him?
You don't think… It can't be, right?
>>2832630Good. Stop burdening women with a lifetime of needing to provide 24/7 care (unpaid labour) to a tard baby.
>>2832445>>2832972>You don't think… It can't be, right?No democrat ticket has won POTUS this century without a Biden on it
>>2833058Ok at first I was like "surely a silly mistake" but now tbat I know a pole is involved I'm not so sure
>>2833070Please be less gullible, they literally admitted that they knew not to send it to German customers 🤔
>>2828326>the colonizer will use the violence of the colonized against its subjugators to justify more violenceNo shit, motherfucker.
This is the right-wing intellectual Svengali philosopher I’ve been hearing about?
>>2833085That idiot is nothing but a blogger who peter thiel boosted. Honestly pretty embarrassing results.
>>2833058More evidence Poles are scum
>>2832990So you are saying to abolish marriage?
>>2832420I asked about the trial. your special-needs opinions aren't useful anon.
>>2833214Completely unsurprised. Always knew he was trying to hide some shit with that moustache.
>>2833202There would be less gender dysphoria amongst AMABs if men's fashion had more to offer than just fucking pants and T-shirts.
>>2833228The Great Male Renunciation and its consequences have a been a disaster for humanity. A huge part of why I transitioned is being able to wear dresses and skirts and makeup, maybe if I was born a nobleman in 18th century France things would have turned out different.
>>2833259Fact: Sex freak and porn addict Hasan doesn't give all his money to random women being sued by youtubers
Evil.
>>2833259>he did not openly help them because Klein was trying to get to him through themHow's KKKlein gonna handle Hasan bankrolling their legal defense and possibly fucking KKKlein over?
>>2833271Zermatt, Switzerland
>>2833284I bet he did a lot of drugs and had a bunch of sex at that hotel.
Hitl3rHitl3r
Ethan KKKlein
Ethan Dekline
Ethan Kleansing
Benjamin Ethanyahu
>>2833284wrong, try again
>>2833023>No democrat ticket has won POTUS this century without a Biden on itthe absolute state
>>2833287What does this mean
>>2833058if only there was some other unicode character one could use to symbolize the sun 🌞
>>2833214the white nationalism cuck porn complex strikes again
>>2833234>A huge part of why I transitioned is being able to wear dresses and skirts and makeupit's almost like gender isn't real
>>2833323Read the fucking thread?
>>2833323He lost the case partly because of a precedent he himself set when he was sued frivolously and everyone rallied behind him to defend free speech
>>2833340Why scroll through a whole thread when you're just dumping random garbage on the board? Nobody asked you to reply.
Denims is hot as fuck
>>2833450You know, the pants. Theyre warm
>>2833450ur mum. Denims is her street name.
>>2833466>What should he do next?Ethan KKKlein should :
>Get cucked, then divorced by his IDF assigned wife.>Lose the custody on his children to a judge that cites his VERY public crashouts And his dogshit parasite incident as evidence of being unfit to parent.>Pick up a gun, flee to Israel.>And get immediately killed/raped by some IDF yokels who fail to see the Jewish masterrace at a checkpoint, in this scrawny histrionic loser who in all lights looks like a crackhead.Then the terrorist wife can do like Kirk's and milk the remainder of his image dry, for clout and merch.
>>2833476That one guy from the memes is Jewish?
>>2833476alexy sayle is also a communist
>>2833060I got the same GOG notification lol, poles are not beating the allegations any time soon
>>2833476>>2833504>'left the communist party in 57' was the worst insult she knew.Based Mum btw lmao.
>>2833522This is silly. Poles are hitlerites because they're nationalists, but they're not literal hitlerites like ukrops or baltoids might.
>>2833542bro look at the fucking response they gave. they are hitlerites
>>2833542>Poles are hitlerites because they're nationalists, lol no. I have no dog in this fight because Im not european but from what I observe online they have a massive complex that they cant get over with respect to both western and eastern europe. And they are huge racists. Nationalism doesnt enter the equation here.
>>2833552Almost every pole I see online has some sort of weird superiority and inferiority complex
Candace owens and Andrew Tate are both currently on trips to Russia promoting Russia, meeting with government officials and being interviewed all over Russia while saying what an amazing country it is
>>2833561The anti imperialist right again just mogs the western left again.
Anarchists go join asov and these chads meet some goats
>>2833561>grifters going to promote czar autocracy and orthodoxywowzie
>>2833561Russia is so weird, its a right-wing hyper conservative shithole but its also fighting an anti-imperialist war against american puppets who also happen to be neonazis. Feels like the only people that are anti-russia are liberals and neonazis (for obvious reasons)
>>2833466keep eating his own poo until he dies
>>2833605the peak of pro russia was during the obama years as putin was a conservitive white guy you could point too as a good example.
But the reality is putin is pretty much for the same shit as the west but russia in charge instead, if you talk to actual russians online they will tell you what a cu ck putin is
Do you think Ethan Klein tasted his own poo? He talks about poop way too much. Also that image of him wearing a diaper.
>>2833599>The anti imperialist right again just mogs the western left again.That Russia is rolling out the caviar for dregs like Andrew Tate says more about the Russian government than it does the Western left.
>>2833605>Feels like the only people that are anti-russia are liberals and neonazis (for obvious reasons)Russia used to try to court American neo-Nazis / "DR" / alt-right types in the 2010s as a based antisemitic opposite pole to ZOG. This has been mostly forgotten but Richard Spencer led "Russia Is Our Friend / The South Will Rise Again" (not very catchy) at Charlottesville in 2017. Spencer became pro-Ukraine after the alt-right basically collapsed. The only ones in American alt-right scene who really remained pro-Russia that I know of was Erik Striker and Mike Enoch, who are two podcasters.
Then Russia shifted to standard GOP/Trump conservatives after Trump won. Basically ditching the wignat fringe for Republican hottie representative Anna Paulina Luna while promoting the based and trad Christian schtick. There are still a lot of MAGA rightoids who are stuck in 2017 negative polarization to Russiagate, but it has been waning in popularity. An interesting thing is that Trump loyalist "influencers" like Laura Loomer (and others) have been sounding like Russiagate libs in recent weeks, which I don't think is random, it's like a shift in messaging from the top being communicated downstream as Russia gets frozen out. Candace Owens is now a "stupid person."
It's sort of funny that Russia spent like 50+ years trying to get the western left to support them. Then after obama's victory larping as trad anti homo civilization last bastion of christianity is what gets conservatards in the west to hope on board.
>>2833789obama's second victory*
never ind that McCain wanted to nuke Russia off the face of the earth.
>>2833788NATO wanted to subjugate and steal everything but the Russian bourgeoisie obviously wanted more than fractions of a penny on the dollar. And out of greed and arrogance the west refused to give any concessions thinking they would bend the knee because it was end of history. Ultimately it's their own fault Russia told them to get fucked.
>>2833790Even if Mccain wanted to nuke them he lost while Obama and the Democrats were fully behind Ukraine. So of course they hate the democrat's guts. They clearly hoped that by supporting republicans it would get them back into the western capitalist fold but Trump is even more greedy and domineering than Obama lol
>>2833924he's such a ridiculous goober
>>2833924>win a debate for $1000 kek. And who's gonna be the arbiter of that, his buddies?
>>2833907Notice how he's wearing a suit now. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working with the democrats directly now through the fight agency.
>>2833907CPUSAnon type rant
>>2833907>socdem betrays the movement for personal profitShocking
>>2834003Has everybody at the robot level been murdered?
>>2833907Now repost this whenever PSL gets glazed to undo some of that damage on the postertariat.
>>2833788Spencer married a Russian woman and became anti Russian after she left him and took the kids lmao
>>2833788My read is that Russia spent years trying to court the left, such as with old-RT, they however realized that the left isn't getting power in the USA and that at least with the right there is a decent chance of SOME return-on-investment.
>>2834226Correct. Also, the left also boycotted them for guilt of association and called them chuds. It came to the point where only right-wingers would go on RT and Sputnik and such - you reap what you sow I guess.
>>2834277> the left also boycotted them for guilt of association and called them chuds. It came to the point where only right-wingers would go on RT and Sputnik and such - you reap what you sow I guess.That's not really how i'd put it. I'd say the defining factor was the closing down of RT offices in Europe and the USA and the mass removal of all the old RT content from digital platforms.
After that courting the right was more of a choice, if one they were pushed into, by RT, not a matter of the previous leftist contributors 'boycotting them and calling them chuds.'.
>>2834006> I wouldn't be surprised if he's working with the democrats directly now through the fight agency.Always has been. I mean for fuck's sake he is the nephew of Cenk Ugyur of TYT.
>Notice how he's wearing a suit now.Weak premise that fails to support your correct conclusion. Replace the completely irrelevant observation that he wears a suit (Marx and Lenin also wore suits… so what?) with observations concerning his actual cucked behavior
>>2834226>>2834277I agree but also I think were seeing a realignment of the U.S towards Asia and Eurasia. The uptick in podcasters going to china and Russia has been steadily increasing since the start of the 2020s. I wouldnt be surprised if this was being allowed if not encouraged by the state department to lay the groundwork for realignment. NATO is a walking corpse, Trumps already bent the knee to Xi and has been trying to find an exit for the Ukraine war. Younger generations are meh about Europe, even our RVTURN guys think euros are all gay. Get ready for the Pacific century, the weebs won.
>>2834282This is a partial picture.
RT for sure boosted "socially conservative" MLs like Galloway, maybe some of the Infrared figures too.
Shortly after RT was banned in the EU Putin hosted the BRICS summit. Shortly after that in turn media networks across RT / CGTN / TeleSur did some sort of consolidation or at the very least grouping or cross-connecting of staff. The left-oriented astroturf towards the anglophone as an angle was instead handed over to CGTN and TeleSur (today resting more resolutely with the Chinese). One result is Wave Media, whose staff started out in a shared China news programming format on both CGTN and Telesur. Wave Media people also appear on BreakThrough News. BT News is a PSL news media front. Both PSL and CPUSA shill Democrats today. CGTN have been known to host Infrared, as and Geopolitical Economy Report. Ben Norton, who started out on The Greyzone which had a reciprocal relationship with RT, split, formed the new org, later relocated to China.
In both the cases of Infrared and Ben Norton we have figures who started out with obvious ties to Russian/Chinese political interests leveraging rightist populism, to, after getting 'burned' by that not working as intended (anti-vaxx, MAGACom), they reorient to a socially progressive slant (Harmonious Ben, trans-inclusive Haz) but still with fundamentally the same external funding source.
This has become more clear with 1. World Anti-imperialist Platform 2. Sovintern 3. PSL / BT News monopoly-capitalist growth 4. CGTN not prohibiting contact with Marcyite / Schillers Institute / WAP adjacent figures and indeed establishing prolonged non-interrupted connections with these petty bourgeois opportunist elements. BT News recently also absorbed People's Dispatch fyi.
I think points are emerging establishing a pattern towards Deprogram, Lemmygrad and Prolewiki being a part of this as well. The only thing a bit more grey is to which extent Hasanabi, DSA, CTH, Hexbear, and CPUSA are.
>>2833907Why th do so many people watch this idiot?
>>2834331Dont forget the SOVINTERN
>>2833924oh so this is what ACP means when they say that they "Embed themselves in local communities".
I knew Haz was a grifter and a idiot with a huge ego from the very beginning with "Sage" being the only guy to call Haz out while the rest of leftypol at the time praised Haz.
>>2833924Do you think he carries the briefcase or do you think one of the others is made to be the little briefcase bitch boy?
>>2834374>"Sage" being the only guy to call Haz out while the rest of leftypol at the time praised Haz.That's not true, the user base was split. I remember having many a laugh at this retard being an short tempered pseudo-literate manchild.
>>2834398Why i'ma forced to like bad abstract art just because mexicans with gay greek statues as their profile pics don't like it ?
>>2833907just a reminder that President Biden did not close the concentration camps and the liberals just rebranded them as detention centers and kept them operational for Trump's second term
>>2834398Hes right.
So your idealist brain cant comprehend concepts like this.
Go jack off to Jesus Piss Christ and whatever "avant guard" experimental edgy "art" or whatever you enjoy.
Probably porn.
>>2834398Art does not really matter one way or the other, it's stupid to argue or care about
>>2834398>just because the map will never capture the true details and roughness of a territory>doesn't mean there is no territory>saying art arises from nothing, a map with no territory, is the abstraction that should be criticizedeh, he's kind of right, but human beings can still conceptualize (produce a map) without reference to the outside world (being subject to territory). I'm not an art snob but I think more people would identify with art that attempts to capture reality in some regard, as abstract art tends to be very… personal to the artist shall we say.
>>2834398Tankies have always been like this. Like all conservatives they glorify and take credit for a past they didnt build and refuse to acknowledge the present day. Like I'll take a tankie over any fox brained boomer anyday and they dont engage in half the historical revisionsim that you're dye in the wool reactionary does. But don't forget they're reaching for something thats beyond time.
>>2834398JFC why is abstract art anti-communist?
I'm a tankiddie
>>2834600I dont even care for video games anymore. The bar is so low that the standard for a good game is if it can let manchildren goon or not.
>>2833924He's right of course but his point is undermined by the fact that he's a retard.
>>2834600>eleven year old face with huge titsPedoslop
Someone in the BE comment section of his latest Platner video is saying that Caleb Maupin recently is starting to voice support for Platner as well?
"no he made a recent stream about the news of Platner's leaks and handwaived it off."
Anyone Maupin masochists who follow his streams and know what the guy (@RTSG_Prism on YT) is referring to is correct?
>>2834203>Spencer married a Russian woman and became anti Russian after she left him and took the kids lmaoThat probably had an effect. There's a ridiculous picture of him, her (with a St. George's ribbon) and Laura Bush and I still don't know how that happened.
>>2834226>My read is that Russia spent years trying to court the left, such as with old-RT, they however realized that the left isn't getting power in the USA and that at least with the right there is a decent chance of SOME return-on-investment.That could be it, but I think two other things might be true. One is that the Russian government just came to see the Western left as their enemy. Not even really because leftists called them chuds, but because they're actually very conservative and don't like what the left is about, they view it as harmful to Russia and potentially destabilizing. The second thing is that most people (including governments) don't really have a wholly accurate picture of what's going on in other countries, because how can you if you're not from there? So I can see some Russian guy with a relationship to the intelligence services seeing some Texan secessionists and thinking that's based (cuz Texas! yeehaw!) and, like, real and shit, and then trying to reach out to those guys. But nobody in Texas takes those people seriously if they're even dimly aware that they "exist." They only got into one armed standoff with the feds in the 90s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Mountain_Resort_hostage_crisisThe U.S. government is like this too with other countries. This kind of thing can also backfire. If you remember Alexei Navalny, he really didn't want to get close to Western influences that wanted to court him, because he was very well aware that it would undermine his credibility in Russia if he flew to the U.S. and gave speeches at think tanks, which would've surely loved to have had him.
Another thing I'm considering is wheter they're worried about domestic ideological spillover. Maybe not that much (Russians are like "literally who?" when hearing about Western leftists), but the U.S. motivation for backing Islamists vs. the USSR was geopolitical, but also because the U.S. feared communism "infecting" Americans much more than Americans converting to Islam (not realistic). That backfired eventually, but there's a reason why Russia invites the ACP to Russia and not the DSA. Maybe they would and idk, but I don't think want people just running around over there and not being able to control them. But the ACP will play ball with them, and there's something about the ACP that is more "compatible" with what they're doing in Russia.
>>2834006>Notice how he's wearing a suit now. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working with the democrats directly now through the fight agency.He wants to be Zohran now. I wonder if Hasan will run for office one day. Brandon Herrera will get into Congress in November and he's a Rhodesiaboo gun YouTuber clown.
>>2834441>I'm not an art snob but I think more people would identify with art that attempts to capture reality in some regard, as abstract art tends to be very… personal to the artist shall we say.A lot of what people don't like about abstract art is that it's inaccessible and irrevelant to their lives. Which can also be the point. Say, I'm an abstract artist, I define myself by being disinterested in your interest as I engage in "pure" art for its own sake (or whatever), or maybe I'm trying to destroy art. Like the two sorts of people who hate art the most are philistines and avant-garde artists, who have deliberately tried to attack the concept of art (which is quite a paradox as there are gigantic art museums filled with their stuff). Let's become art squad terrorists who hang upside down from the ceiling because we're alienated. Also it probably matters how you see the art and where, like what's the social situation.
Dunno if it's just abstraction though. Like quilts are full of abstract shapes, but it's a completely different social environment because it's old ladies. It's not really appreciated by the high art world. It's usually categorized as "folk art." Idk a lot about art though.
>>2834729>But nobody in Texas takes those people seriously if they're even dimly aware that they "exist."Yeah I always got the sense that the ACP's relationship with the Russian government was basically like this. It gives a sense of what it's like to be on the receiving end of the more pathetic US regime change ops, where they would pick some random politician or media figure from the target country and parade them around as the face of The Opposition (TM) and treat them like the leader-in-waiting. Meanwhile people in the country had either never heard of this person before or they were widely despised. Nalvany is a good example, Guido is another. Even Syngman Rhee was some literally who expat who sat out the entirety of Korea's independence struggle in the US while Kim Il Sung was camped out in the mountains fighting the Japanese. Haz strikes me as a Russian attempt to do something similar, but its even more embarrassing because he's such a clown.
>>2833271Certainly! As a multimodal AI assistant, I can see that his name is
Tony. Art and enter won’t exist under communism anyway. Your work will be fulfilling such that it doesn’t feel like work at all.
>>2834752>enterI meant entertainment
>>2834752This guy didn't read Stalin
>>2834752>Philistinismreactionary
>>2834827dude what the fuck? Please tell me that's edited how can someone look like that?
Do you guys think that people on the internet became more anti-social and nihilistic then 20 years ago ?
>>2834830That's a very common phenotype
>>2834836He was always a racist weirdo actually. I pointed this out on /leftypol/ many years ago and got flamed for it, supposedly just hating him for being a Jew even though I pointed out his own antisemitism against other Jews in Israel.
>>2834006Apparently Fox News keeps using clips on him so he decided to dress nicely for the optics.
>>2834398You might be legitimately illiterate if you think this is a critique nazis would make.
>>2834865the nazis hated post modern art and viewed it as "degenerate", the style of the "critique" is different, but its result is identical
>>2834878The claim was that their views are the same. If the critique is different the views are not the same.
The result being identical is just observably untrue.
>>2834935normalize doxxing
>>2834941She (Antipersonhood) has her full name on her IG profile.
She’s a known forced-birth activist.
>>2834840Don't know much about this guy. What did he do?
>>2834935Pedophile apologist
what do you think of gusanos?
Does leftypol nowadays go unmodded for days at a time?
>>2834952We sure she ain't trans?
>>2833933Maybe they did kill Charlie after all by grooming that guy in their Discord and that's why the FBI is investigating him.
what yall think bout women that be shoppin
>>2834827took me a while to realize this wasn't an edit
>>2834729The western "left" is just gay nazis, literally
No one on earth should see tbem as friends
>>2835326they should only be shopping for dis dick youknowhwatimsayin?
>>2834738I mentioned the Texas thing because it's very funny. The "Republic of Texas" group in the 90s was a local expression of the wider militia movement, and now there's one (or maybe two?) of these groups that is more like an "activist" group, but they only seem to appear when a Democrat gets elected president, because what they're really doing is reacting negatively to Democrats. But then when a Republican gets into office you don't see them because they're not angry. It's a conjuctural "movement" like that, it's not a real expression of seperatist sentiment with historic roots. Like what makes Texas a "nation," it's not language or culture beyond having Texas-shaped waffles that you can buy at the grocery store.
But then one of them would go to Russia to attend a conference at the Ritz Carlton, and it's a really expensive hotel and there's Irish nationalists there and also some DPR guys, and they're talking about the crimes of American imperialism and capitalism, and the Texan guy is like well, this is awkward, and never went back. That language is just way too weird and exotic for the people who'd join a group like this. But like I said, I can see a Russian guy getting into it because he sees it as exotic and interesting and can wear cowboy hat in take a selfie with the guy and LARP as a cowboy. You know Stalin liked Westerns.
>>2834608What funny is this meme pretends a literal picture of a women shouting with some text added in is revolutionary art instead of a basic advertisement in the modern world. While it's clearly more message focused than the Stalin painting, it's really not that radically different in subject.
What that poster is railing against isn't human focused messaging but artists pretending galleries full of upside down urinals and blank canvases will get workers to become communist somehow.
>>2835365Is the IDF paying his legal fees? How the fuck can he afford all these lawsuits? Fucking no one watches their podcast anymore.
offtopic but if we use the definition of paligenetic ultranationalism then doesnt that mean the allies were fascist too? Fdr america was quite paligenetic
>>2835369Who said I was seething at Duchamp? I'm calling out the leftists who pretend that more of Duchamp would have totally convinced western workers to become communist. If the USSR funded more of this type of art it would not have helped them win the cold war. The problem was increasing market organization in the USSR, not what art was spread around.
>>2835349that is the gayest music video I've ever seen, I just wanted to say.
>>2835368Forgetting the ultranationalism part of it. I’ve seen plenty of WW2 propaganda and a lot of the stuff the federal government was producing was oddly inclusive—stuff like white and black workers working together, there was one that had someone lifting a top hat colored the Stars and Stripes next to someone lifting a sombrero and in English and Spanish it said “Americans all: fighting for freedom” if I remember right.
Of course it was also extremely racist towards the Japanese, still a running theme of the war I think was that it’d transcend racial divisions within the United States. I think most “ultranationalism” within the U.S. would take the character of racism more than “all of us work together to fight the Nazis”
>>2835379and I would agree with that except for the fact that we also have fascist movements like brazillian integralism. Which was a multi racial fascist movement.
Fascism takes the aspects of the country it finds itself in. America during that time had a political current that believed itself to be this "multiracial" civilization state. So its not suprising a american fascism could adapt multiracialism just like brazilian intellgralism did
>>2834737Final message situation is crazy.
>>2834737perhaps i am turning schizo but unfortunately i think they may have stumbled on some glowies in the mormon mafia. perhaps it was as serious as guns for drugs being smuggled through mormon churchs and the profits being laundered through the lego stores. brainwashed mormons are the ultimate glowies. mormon churches in the third world. speak many languages. know how to preach and pitch a product. patriotic to america. don't get high off the product.
>>2835384I mean I don’t want to sound like a dick but saying that America in the 40s considered itself a “multi racial civilization” seems absurd; there was still some deeply rooted racism, not even talking about Jim Crow—Lovecraft’s writings at the time I think speak to an understanding of America as an explicitly white civilization where “the other” was residing within it. I tend to think of the FDR years as maybe an example of a highly idealized social democracy; perhaps one that briefly had a chance of becoming a true socialist democracy.
>>2835396>I mean I don’t want to sound like a dick but saying that America in the 40s considered itself a “multi racial civilization” seems absurdI understand why you react that way but im not saying it was the sole or dominant political current. I specified that there was some political currents during that time that believed in the multi racial civilization thing. That america true founding ideals was this multiracial civilization idea and thus a potentially "progressive" fascism could emerge that adopts it as a ultranationalist ideal.
Thats what im saying. Am i making sense here?
>>2835409>Who tf has ever said this???People who learn about Jackson Pollock being funded by the CIA. Some leftists try to argue the USSR should have also funded experimental art to compete on that level.
>>2835423I’d make that argument too, if the artist wants to spread a message in favor of the party, who cares what abstract or weird avant garde form it takes?
>>2835378>intermarriage rate: 2%Easy to keep the numbers that low when misegination is illegal.
>>2835427Also lmao like Modern Hebrew isn’t a constructed language
>>2835423No one has ever said this. Stop coping because people find Socialist realism boring and trite.
>>2835424Sure if artists want to do that by themselves they can. But should the USSR have funded it's publishing and distribution? Would it have been worth the price? I would argue no, that art has limits in what it can convince and simple marketing really is the most convincing. In fact Abstract Expressionism and the many other experimental art movements fell apart in the west for the same reason. It's only a small minority of artists and art collectors who ever really cared for it. In fact the CIA never needed to bother funding Pollack at all since it amounted to nothing in the end. Same thing with Chess competitions, Olympic Sports or any other cultural bullshit. The USSR should have put full focus on it's actual economy while keeping the simple messaging to tell people what their goals were.
>>2835433>No one has ever said this. Other people are literally saying it this thread tho
>people find Socialist realism boring and trite.So what? The point of socialist realism was to convey messages about prosperity and strength in very clear terms. It's was never supposed to open the third eye, be a transcendent experience, express individualism or whatever.
>>2835447>Other people are literally saying it this threadShow me one, schizo.
>The point of socialist realism was to convey messages about prosperity and strength in very clear terms.Yeah that's exactly why it's boring. It was more of an advertisement or piece of propaganda than an actual art movement.
>>2835447>that art has limits in what it can convince and simple marketing really is the most convinciningTerminally capitalist brained.
>>2835450>Show me one, schizo.Here you go
>>2835424>an actual art movement.Not being a capitalist slave takes priority over art movements in my mind.
>>2835451Socialism is a technical arrangement of economy and society, not magic. You are trying to tell people they will be better off owning the means of production. What exactly can abstract expressionism convince people of? How does it convince people of anything at all?
>>2833476Noice!
I remember Alexei Sayle from that time Edmund Griffiths was on his podcast, to discuss the antics of British socialist micro-sects and what they should do instead:
https://audioboom.com/posts/8479043-what-isn-t-to-be-done-with-edmund-griffiths How the Libertarian Movement Missed the Authoritarian Moment
https://www.theunpopulist.net/p/how-the-libertarian-movement-missedThis is a longform interview with Shikha Dalmia of The Unpopulist/Institute for the Study of Modern Authoritarianism. To give some background on Shikha Dalmia, she worked at Reason Magazine, however her anti-Trump stance proved to be a step out of line for Reason which is why she has been raising the alarm regarding right-wing cancel culture and authoritarianism which has been dangerously overlooked, even more so from many "libertarians" who were able to spot authoritarianism with an eagle eye from healthcare reform to campus speech restrictions but were not able to do the same for Trump whose authoritarianism has been blatant.
Here are the highlights below, the rest of the article can be found in the link above.
Shikha on her break with libertarianism
My break with libertarianism happened when Trump arrived on the scene. I was working at Reason magazine at that time and, the minute Trump came down the golden escalator, it was clear to me that he was a different kind of politician: he was a demagogue and an authoritarian, he didn’t really understand liberalism, and he didn’t understand America’s core commitments. He was closer to demagogues that I had seen in India, like Narendra Modi, who preceded Trump by a few years. Given this, I was a little bit more sensitized to demagogues in general and Trump in particular, so it was pretty clear to me that the libertarians around me were just not seeing him as the same kind of threat as I was.
In fact, there was general chuckling at the way he was sticking his finger in the eye of the left and going after liberals. It is not that libertarians were completely unconcerned about Trump; it’s that they were just not taking the threat seriously. They were treating him as a normal politician, just bad in a different kind of way and, at best, maybe a corrective to the excesses of the left. This chasm between me and libertarian circles just kept growing, and it was getting hard to get my point of view taken seriously.
On Libertarian Hypocrisy
Before Trump, libertarians would start warning of slippery slopes at a president’s use of the state for any goal. I, personally, wrote a gazillion pieces about Obama and Obamacare and how it represented a “road to serfdom,” in Hayek’s famous phrase, because it involved forcing people to buy healthcare. I wrote a piece encouraging a civil disobedience movement against Obamacare’s mandate. The thought was if a president can force you to do this, what else would be required?
But Trump was infinitely worse than any of them—in a league of his own—and I just didn’t see the alarm. He didn’t even bother to couch his agenda in some high-minded language. He divided the population into “us versus them” and promised to use the draconian powers of the state to help “us” and hurt “them”—a complete violation of the fundamental neutrality of the state, which is a basic commitment of liberal governance—and libertarians merely shrugged.
That got me thinking: Why is this? The reasons are partly political, partly sociological, and partly theoretical. Politically, since libertarianism arose in the heyday of the Cold War and made an alliance with socially conservative traditionalists and neo-conservative foreign policy hawks, it got inflected with a certain right-wing flavor. Libertarians became so attuned to fighting the leftist threat abroad that, once Communism fell, like the rest of the right, they had to find a new leftist threat at home, which primed them to be receptive to Trump’s message and his preoccupation with the leftist enemy.
The Difference Between the Far-Right and Problematic Social Justice
When I was in my libertarian days, I wrote my share of columns against the progressive left, arguing that there have been so many excesses and stupid notions that they have flirted with. I remember, at one time, there was this push for something called “affirmative consent,” the idea that, given the differential power structure between men and women, men can never assume that women are consenting at any stage of the sexual act until they have obtained affirmative consent. I wrote a piece pointing out how stupid this whole idea was, and I got attacked in Jezebel as somebody who likes being raped, so I’m very familiar with these leftist excesses.
However, I still think that leftists very often have the right cause; their means are just over the top and illiberal. Whereas with the right, I think both their ends and their means are illiberal. Basically, the progressive insight is that individual self-actualization requires certain conditions to be achieved. In societies riddled with say, class, caste, gender, and racial hierarchies, members of those groups can’t actualize themselves without first jettisoning systems of oppression and exploitation. Moreover, in any society, no matter how lofty its principles, the initial distribution of rights and privileges always favors dominant and powerful groups. So, the important task for any liberal society is to dedicate itself to creating a level playing field by dismantling these structures and make the systems work in a neutral, impartial, fair, and non-oppressive fashion for all.
America has been constituted on the notion of freedom and individual liberty for all. Yet racial slavery continued for 100 years after its founding and the structures and legacies of racism persist to this day. To the extent that groups have been subjugated and oppressed by virtue of immutable characteristics, whether that is race, gender, sex, or sexuality, this discrimination has to be challenged collectively, otherwise we cannot achieve individual freedom or actualization. So, progressives are right about that. Where the problem emerges is when they embrace illiberal means or they don’t want to make the political case for their cause and bring people along. They are in a hurry because these injustices are so intolerable that they want results now.
But, for all the social levers that the woke left has used to accomplish its causes, it has never become powerful enough to control the levers of the state in the way the right has. Hence, the excesses of these progressives can be fought through normal liberal channels, and we have seen that happen repeatedly. For example, on the issue of gay rights, religious conservatives have won a number of victories, like obtaining religious exemptions for businesses who wish to refuse baking cakes for gay marriages because doing so goes against their conscience. The left can be a problem but, until you’ve got a Jacobin takeover of this state, I’m less worried about them.
Thoughts
>>2835365proud Zionist cultural traditions: defending genocide and suing people
>>2835369dadachads, I kneel..
>>2835447>But should the USSR have funded it's publishing and distribution?<should a communist party fund propaganda?do you hear yourself speak? you never know what kind of propaganda will stick. what you're talking about is the classic question of exploration vs exploitation. if you don't fund exploration then all you will get is bland slop and your communist experiment will become known for producing bland slop
>>2835557><should a communist party fund propaganda?Never said they shouldn't. Only that they were right to not fund overly experimental art without a clear message. However, they should have put a lot more into propaganda for their own people while taking a cue from successful American propaganda. Imagine a communist Rambo/007 taking down Islamist drug dealers backed by western capitalists. China has figured that out. Just look at movies like Wolf Warrior.
>you never know what kind of propaganda will stick. The most successful American propaganda was always action movies and advertisements showing smiling, conventionally attractive people having a nice life. Random colors on a canvas or films showing a single shot of a building for 8 hours was always niche in the west.
>your communist experiment will become known for producing bland slopMaybe but who cares? Slop fulfills a purpose by giving the majority something filling and cheap.
>>2835595stop navel-gazing and learn how to actually communicate
>>2835603just let the art hoes cook
>>2834608The first isn’t even art it’s an ad for a books
You also chose to omit examples of socialist realism that depict day to day Soviet life
I know you want play around with paint and make some vague esoteric abstract painting but the socialist realist movement put the brushes, paint, skilled artists, institutions of art and channels of distributing art under central proletarian control and dedicated them to making art that represented the masses and the masses could understand , not some absurdist splat you need a masters to understand.
>>2835657do stalinists realize how paternalistic they sound defending art control in the big 26 because the masses are retarded or something
>>2835666What is art control and when did I defend it?
>>2835673Because in the Russian empire the only people who had gone to art school were aristocrats and paint and canvases were a commodity socialist put those resources under control of the proletariat I don’t know how that’s “art control” anymore than the anarchy of production is
>>2835666The most libbed up post I've read today
>>2835659I like the one with the women in it. They're pretty hot.
>>2835688Replace Trotsky with Khruschev and it would be accurate.
>>2835688It's moreso the other way around. One of the first things trotskyists will bring up when you converse with them is that they don't support stalin
>>2835813The future USSR will just be Brazil and Argentina joining forces. They'll be unstoppable in soccer.
>>2835817>Lulaism with Mileian Characteristicsngmi
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