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CORE THEORY >The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord📖 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ
<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin📖 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA
>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer📓 •
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY
<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-0.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE
>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs
<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault📖 •
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko
>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard 📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-1.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs
<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M
>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-2.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4
<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze 📖 •
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY
>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson📖 •
https://leftypol.org/edu/src/1782045945238-3.pdf📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4k26xGx1zI
<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida📖 •
https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q
>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher📖 •
https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher📺 •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI—————————————————–
SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL
>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory📖 •
Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of
Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm📺 •
Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30📖 •
Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of
History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm📺 •
Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI 📖 •
Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of
Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm📺 •
Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo📖 •
Louis Althusser -
Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm📺 •
Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw
<Documentaries•
The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA•
Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I•
The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and
The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc•
HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco
>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)•
We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y•
Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg•
The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs•
Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw•
The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI
<Situationist Archives•
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I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/•
Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys•
Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing>>2868260Lenin organized a group of garrison soldiers, sailors and factory workers to take over Petrograd (the capital at the time). It was a coup d'état. Not about convincing the common retard to "vote for them."
>>2866803It's a known phenomena in certain circles where fascists and MLs hook up/have sex cause they're fixated on each other or the fascist is just really attracted to political extremism or something. Meaningless heresy post from me but it's a thing
>>2868276My favorite part is "I read it like 15 years ago, I don't remember" and it's the most basic thing about Leninism.
>>2868260i've found its very hard to argue with libs because they lack so much fundamental knowledge of Marxism or socialism or even any kind of complex political, economic, philosophical, anthropological system or ideology or any understanding of the history and contexts of any ways of thinking.. all they really know is to be really loud and annoying with their beliefs in regards to the most pressing specific issue that they can easily take a side on and is widely popular at the moment. thhey'll just argue about abortion and trans bathrooms, how gender is a social construct, or how trump is a rapist. very rudimentary knowledge of modern politics, and almost no knowledge of any greater systems, just stronger opinions on very specific issues and that's it. the worst part is, just because most of these libs are debating 10 autism score inbred retarded MAGGers who boast about their wishes to enslave women, the libs think of of themselves automatically as the most "educated and empathetic" group out there (they're always sure to use those specific terms, when none of those are true lol). all in all, yeah its just difficult cause you'll be so fucking deep into theory, and some libfag will say some bulsshit that exposes a sever lack of information, and it often just leaves me stumped because I realize how far behind they, and because the deconstruction and conversion process can take so long, at that point anything I say will just make me feel like a crazed lunatic shouting propaganda, the same way we view Nazis when they start randomly talking bout herrenvolk and judeo bolshevism. I mean, maybe I could sit them down for a 10 part lecture and explain how creation of civilization and the subsequent invention of private property has influenced the superstructure, but I just get stumped cause I feel like I cant say anything in a span of few minutes that could even get them understand even a fraction of what i'm trying to get across
>>2868300Yeah, basically this guy has a daily youtube stream where he dunks on MAGAtards so the two clips I've seen of him engaging with MLs is pretty much just him not understanding what he's arguing against and acting like the other person doesn't understand politics. Seems like a common lib thing.
>>2868276I mean, you capture the essence of the vanguard, but you must understand that even the vanguardist Lenin had–at the least, a dual faceted, and at most, a multi-faceted approach to the revolution. Leninism is not a dictatorship of the party, it is only meant to serve as a tool to lead the masses and their existing movement (or build one for them if they don't have it currently). But the movement must have two faces: a hyper-centralized, organized core (often secretive and militant), and a mass movement of sympathetic supporters who are not card carrying members of the party (or any party for that matter), but are the sympathetic base that can use their numbers to their advantage, i.e. to protest, or strike or any other mass activity which can be done to showcase the strength or popularity of the movement, and just exist as a popular base whose existence can agitate (even slightly) the establishment. these are the two pillars, just as theory and praxis itself are dual pillars of action, both the core and masses are big enough to render the other futile with their nonexistence. some might say without the mass support the Bolsheviks had gained in the last year or so before the revolution, they may have never been able to conjure up enough soldiers to survive the war. if we are to start any organized militant action (just a hypothetical glowies, don't come after me) we would first need to engage the masses and provoke them with a mass media campaign aimed at agitating and bringing them to our side. without their moral support, we wouldn't survive
>>2868314>and a mass movement of sympathetic supporters who are not card carrying members of the party (or any party for that matter)It's my understanding classic ML strategy really shows its strength through mass organizations. The "party" could be electorally small but votes in parliament are not necessarily how MLs measure their own success, it's one arena to conduct struggle but so is being able to command the support of millions in the streets and have the power to shut down factories and railyards and ports. Or wield power through a nation-wide sharecroppers' / landless farmers' league. The cadres in the party rank up based on their experience and ability leading those mass organizations comprised of people who are not necessarily communists themselves, as you point out. It's the ability of communists to get into and politicize and influence interstitial spaces where people live and work and become terrain of struggle.
When you do read about that, I'm like oh word I can see how this would've been very effective and threatening. Thing I'm not sure this ML in the video understands that either, he's just smugly saying "uhh read Lenin, what do you mean you haven't read Lenin" and then gesturing to vote for a third party. The natural reaction from anyone is going to be no, I haven't, what the hell are you talking about, you tell me "what should be done."
>>2868360>Thing I'm not sure this ML in the video understands that either, he's just smugly saying "uhh read Lenin, what do you mean you haven't read Lenin" and then gesturing to vote for a third party.I wish smarter MLs would show up in these type of arguments with libs. I don't think the lib outsmarted him or anything, but he could've made better points.
>>2868367I don't know what they're really debating or what the context is. If it were me though, I'd probably not care about debating Lenin/Stalin/Mao whoever with the lib, but to challenge the lib on the limitations of his own politics. He has a Minnesota flag behind him, but there's a direct example there of workers openly confronting authority because they naturally see these ICE agents as their enemy. He probably supports that too, but that's not voting either.
Try to break them out of their box. Also I think MLs probably get too caught up in their own aesthetic. Liberals talk about freedom, liberty and equality but without any teeth to those things. But how can you say Americans really free or equal when they're being coerced by the state or by bosses, that's a contradiction within liberalism. A liberal can't win that argument straight up. Also the rich and well-connected want to make life so difficult that people can't go out and stand up to those ICE agents because they're too exhausted just trying to make enough money to survive. Trying to make these terms mean something different might not have a good track record either though, and you might not turn the guy into an ML (but it's not like that ML's approach is doing it either), but you might push the guy to at least not actively oppose what you're doing. (Or if not him, his listeners.)
>>2868417she can seize my means of reproduction
>>2868395I think he just does call ins with people and argues with them. I never watched one of his streams because watching a lib argue with MAGA for two hours sounds like a nightmare.
>>2868329this is gayer than sucking dick
Argentina haters when they find out what country Che Guevara was from (it wasn’t Cuba)
Who tá is listening to Red Scare podcast at this point? Leftists hate them now, the right-wingers they pander to don’t care for them either
Peter Thiel needs to cut the bucks because no one is listening to that shyt
>>2868588He has already pivoted to the plastic meth tool
Trying to sell a podcast by two artsy fartsy women from NYC to 80 autism score rightoids who would rather listen to Asmongold rant about how the latest Marvel cape shit movie is woke was such a retarded idea it could only come from a gay conservative
>>2868013I think Spencer got it right back in 2020. the Democrats are just as much white supremacists and impertialists as the Republicans. They're just less obvious about it and more competent. Trump has been a blessing for communism world wide.
>>2868632>Using strategy to defeat your enemies is Jewish and subversiveDoes he explain his reasoning on why the Aryan master race is supposed to be retarded?
>>2868013Didn't Obama deport more illegals then Trump?
>>2868280So the moralists who don't live in delusional fantasies or post degen memes are all secretly gay and the degens on both the right and left who make femboy memes and smoke weeed are totally hetrsoxual
>>2868632The Trojans were Turkish and worshipped the same gods as the Greeks, despite the gods having favour on different sides. Athena is worshipped by the Trojans but Athena betrays them anyway - what if its just that the gods are evil and not the men who are their playthings? Odysseus being the first Jew has a basic theme in the exodus I suppose, and Odysseus is also intellectual, but apart from this, I don't see the connection, especially since Odysseus rejects the Sirens and the land of the Lotus, where fleshly desires reign. This is not Dionysian. Athena leads Odysseus home like she gave power to Diomedes of the Greeks, so is Athena the Jewish goddess (e.g. Ashera)?
>>2868632what a dumbass lol
>>2868367>smarter MLsalmost an oxymoron
>>2868632>Ukraine flag why am I not surprised
>>2868632what is this guy even in favor of anymore? seems like the white supremacist snake is eating its own tail
>>2868280>It's a known phenomena in certain circles where fascists and MLs hook up/have sex cause they're fixated on each other or the fascist is just really attracted to political extremism or something.But who tops, and who bottoms?
>>2869109This is why you are the exact same as the chuds on 4chan, thinking of porin sexuality constantly, porn rotten freaks, you should stick to hanging out with those freaks
>>2868013So does this mean they're gonna make Democrats win in 2026 and 2028? Can't imagine any other reason they'd give the likes of Fuentes new marching orders.
>>2866143I agree with him in principle, but I think the correct interpretation is to dig up kissenger's bones, smash them to powder, mix that powder into a slurry and pour that slurry into a sewage pond.
>>2868417invite her to my reading group 🫠
>>2868280>>2869109the only time I heard if this I think the fashie was into bottoming because he has a smackie with HIV.
/pol/: Hispanics pretending to be white
/leftypol/: White guys from Portland and Seattle pretending to be ethnic
>>2869341Bad Empanada had a video where he watched some of these JDL freaks. Can anyone remember what it was called or a link?
One of them was all fucked up and had no teeth like a crackhead. It was funny.
>>2869324>/leftypol/: White guys from Portland and Seattle pretending to be ethnicNope. A lot of us are non-White. It's funny how you /pol/tards try turning being White into an insult tho. Like you idiots come here and do like the reverse of the "post-hand" thing as it would go on /pol/. I get it tho, you guys tire of being around the /pol/tards, you come here and see a more intelligent class of people and are like:
>Ahhh this must be where the White people are!>If only I could make them see their "suicidal empathy" that all of us noble White people we could have an intelligent community of White supremacists! >>2869522You know over 50% of Israel's population is native to the middle east, right? It's not just Ashkenazim.
>>2869372>SHE ITS SHE<slowly pulls out pepper spray<whatd youse say!? lol crime fighting at its best
>>2869552yo this video just keeps getting better and better. This person overpowers two cops and then finally gets them to use the preferred pronouns.
<I'm gonna spray him >please stop misgendering me<Alright, I'm gonna spray her >>2869522gottem
>>2869524nobody cares bro. you steal palestinian, lebanese, arab, iranian, moroccan, and ethiopian food, and then fuck it up by making it bland and adding quinoa.
by the by, looking for quinoa and other granola yoga mum hippy dippy vegan bullshit in the menu is how you avoid the israeli restaurants masquerading as "middle eastern".
>>2869246>>2869630I feel like every single new radical leftist online phenomenon (whether its a small podcast or even a big movement that forms) ends falling into these electoral causes, because at one point they realize they cant just sit and critique everything from their armchairs, so they look to join or support a real movement, but most most of them and been soycucked by influencer culture and lifestyle so they no longer have it in them to get out and start something that resembles a real vanguard, and instead just find some rradlibs to endorse because "truss me vro they better than ze other options its critical support in the face of orange hitler dis da political revolution n sheet"
>>2869630Havent watched those guys in a while, wtf happened? This is disgusting
>>2869682Always been a grifter opportunist
>>2869630saw a paul cockshott video the other night called uniting the left or left unity or something and he made the point that in practice basically everyone is a social democrat because we're just watching, waiting, and voting instead of organising the party as a dual power congress or forming a red militia.
mamdani has been pretty good so far, just because he's eventually going to cuck out, because the DSA sucks, and the nature of bougeois democracy doesn't make it necessary to hate the guy: he's making the right people seethe.
the podcast is also pretty good and mike hasn't said any cringe shit defending platner on it.
weak drama. the platner shit is moot: he quit. the deprogram boys continue to recommend gold when it comes to books and content. reddit sucks.
>>2869630Idk why ultras are so sharply critical of Zohran. For all his flaws, he is a means to an end of agitating for class warfare. I have a feeling Rabb will have a similar outcome.
>>2869693>just because he's eventually going to cuck outhe already has
Sorry I can't really take people seriously that got into leftist politics in the first place because they were exposed to lefty ideas thanks to Bernie Sanders' or AOC's electoral campaigns and then shit on Mamdani. Bitch, without electoralism you'd still be a little chuddy, shut the fuck up. Your wokescolding is annoying.
I wonder how Mike feels right now. He used to be very sceptical of Plantner and basically disavowed him during tattoo gate but only pulled a 180° because of the AIPAC attacks and because Hasan talked him into it. That's what you call egg on your face, and now the neolib destiny/ethan klein audience are trying to psy-op the ultras, the same way every second ultra poster on this board is just a sharty troll who has figured out they can post anything as long as they are doing it under the ultra banner.
>>2869524Damn, didn't know they had Sushi and English breakfast in Morocco.
>>2869759Just preparing him for the Flocked world he is going to grow up in. Big brother is always watching.
>>2868314>we would first need to engage the masses and provoke them with a mass media campaign aimed at agitating and bringing them to our side. without their moral support, we wouldn't surviveISIS, Al-Qaeda and Mexican drug cartels captured entire cities, towns and villages with relatively small militias.
Next to zero resistance in the non-Pashtun cities in Afghanistan where Taliban isn't popular.
I think you underestimate how passive the average person is. They're not going to risk their lives like an organized group of disaffected armed young men would.
Prigozhin had a very real chance of seizing Moscow. He chickened out. Cucktin's approach to the war is unpopular among the soldiers.
>>2869758people getting electoralism fatigue is a good thing, you are just a reactionary, you belong in the dustbin of history
>>2869716>he is a means to an end of agitating for class warfareHe's a reformist
>>2869716>Idk why ultras are so sharply critical of Zohranbc they're children
Yeah, grow up.
>marx: *scientifically proves the thing that produces social change is class struggle*
>socdems come in and waste an entire century (and counting) doing class conciliation making sure everything stays the same
>to this day leftoids still defend them and accuse you of not actually wanting things to change or understanding how they do if you dont support them
material explanation?
>>2869819b-ut zorhan has hype and aura
>>2869819Give up, they've beaten you for an entire century like you said. Obviously they're too strong for you.
>>2869819Russophobia and Sinophobia
>>2869819If even Rosa was defeated by them, what chance do you have?
>>2869824How can one man be so based
>>2869630While I have critiques of JT's video, internet communists are whiny, nitpicky faggots so I don't blame JT for telling that guy to fuck off
>>2869824If he actually does it (he won't) he'll have my respect
>>2869945Not a burger. If he tried, how would it actually go down? I don't know how that works. Would he have NYPD do it? In that case he would probably have to purge it like Saddam in 1979.
>>2869952He literally just can't. The NYPD is apparently independent of him. He can't order them to do shit.
>>2869955True, the NYPD answer to nobody but the police unions
>>2870081This man living my dream.
I love you autistic bird man.
>>2868260The lib's take is bad on his own terms. He says he wants to reform the electoral system to make it easier for third parties. But Instant Runoff voting does not have a track record of helping third parties much. A change to a proportional system would do that. Even if you stay within the ultra-myopic scope of electoral reform
to another single-seat election system, Approval voting or Bucklin voting or some Condorcet method would deliver third-party candidates more often.
I'm just going by this short clip, but it appears the ML did everything to come across as a weirdo. You are not going to win over the host, you can only hope to let listeners feel some cracks in the host's ideology. Set this very modest goal and talk in a gentle way.
Destiny and a bunch of other Kick streamers were kicked out of the National College Democrats Convention under the threat of security, likely based on Hasan's request by a guy with a Pali cloth. The Hasanist-Leninist coup is underway. Neoliberalists-Nafoists OUT. Anti-zionists are in control. Stand back and stand down.
https://nitter.poast.org/PolitiConcern/status/2078613307993239612Rumors are swirling over a planned group walkout stunt during Hasan's speech by come factions of the dem college students and social media agitators.
>>2869947saji sharma did a review of this trashfire and makes a compelling case that it's one of the shittest most irredeemable films of all time. uwe boll should have stuck to boxing, filmmaking with CTE must be really hard. ofc the actors in that scene were israelis, as israelis are the living manifestation of racism.
back in the day people were saying that uwe boll was making his shit videogame movies through some kind of german bundesfilm grant program. if he's done that again making explicit nazi propaganda might get him in the shit, depending on how committed the german state is to islamophobia.
>>2870210>depending on how committed the german state is to islamophobia.Yea, about that.
He'll be fine.
>>2870194investing significant time to blowing and cupping the balls of people that hate them is a democrat tradition. telling israel and nato to piss off is a good start, but they still need to fuck off corpo, arms, crypto, the military, and every other cunt that stabs them in the back.
>>2870208hasan is the least offensive DSAcrat and the face of normie anti-zionism. pulling a walkout stunt is going to make the protestors look like zionists or some other kind of gay baby.
>>2870218lmao, that aged well.
>>2870208fucking ultra takoids third worldists now doubt. spit on em. ptooey
Andrew and Tristan Tate, brothers who are social media influencers, were arrested by federal authorities Saturday in Miami, the US Marshals Service said.
The charges against the pair were not immediately announced. Brady McCarron, a spokesperson for the marshals, said the warrant was sealed.
They were arrested on an extradition request from the UK, according to a person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the case.
A news release from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Andrew Tate, 39, had been charged with seven further counts of rape, three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation, three counts of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and 19 additional charges for offences relating to indecent images of a child and extreme pornography.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/jul/18/andrew-tristan-tate-arrested-miami>>2870241Kek. get fucking rekt.
Sadly these two freaks will thrive in UK prison though.
>>2870241>jordan peterson dying>tate brothers prisonjust need nick fuentes to fall down a flight of stairs and get paralyzed from the neck down and all will be right in the world
>>2870251i forgot all about dr jordan peterson
>>2870259Lmao. New meme format?
>>2870259Why did he do it?
>>28702369/10 gives me hope for the future TBH
>>2870241Still think about how there are millions of confused dweebs that idolized these epstein wannabe sex traffickers because "muh masculinity".
>>2870194Guy in the keffiyah was the College Dem National Vice Chair.
>>2870251>all will be right in the worldoh my sweet summer child…
>>2870259This is better than the other version specifically because of the detournement aspect
>>2867193I honestly think incels occasionally love themselves too much. She's cute tho
>>2870294i like how it added all the muscle
>>2870241Does this mean Barron trump is no longer a fan?
>>2870251>>2870254Clav lost all of his roided fake muscles after his plastic surgeries. Maybe he will soon die.
uyghas acting like Argentina is some fascist hellhole because it’s mostly white and has a libertarian president
1) That region (including Chile, Uruguay and southern Brazil) was sparsely populated before Europeans started immigrating en masse during the 19th century and barely had any slavery, hence why it’s so white. Nazis went there because there were already huge German communities.
2) They had a generic LatAm succdem government just a few years ago. It’s also the birthplace of Che Guevara, Eva Perón, Maradona (one of the few openly leftist soccer players) and Pope Francis.
Just chill ffs.
Settler Libcuck 9000 has joined the chat
>>2870356it's not mostly white
>>2870362If we take "white" to mean european then yes, overwhelmingly so. anglo-american definitions here wouldn't apply
>>2870348why do communists just have so much fucking aura??? if only they knew our history everyone would come flocking to us
>>2870346Almost as if both Haz and Jesus were people from the Levant
>>2870356ArgenSSimians are ontologically fascist KKKolonizers.
>>2870384you call that a source?
I’ve read on /pol/ that the term “Karen” was a Jewish psy op to make people hate white women, these uyghas literally turned into SJWs but for white people
>>2869819Racist leftcom babble. If you don't support nationalism and social democracy, you're a chauvinist ignoring the revolutionary movement of the 21st century. We gotta defeat Donald Trump y'all. Your theorycel bullshit ain't doing shit
>>2869819You only think things stayed "the same" because you're doing the ultra meme of "if the mode of production doesn't change then nothing ever happened"
We're gonna pretend there wasn't a systematic undermining of social democracy as well since the 60's, accelerating since the fall of the URSS, nah bro, they're all libs so they're actually the same.
>>2870276A product of the Epstein Class controlled media wanting to normalize their depravity.
>>2870384Don't care; still listening to Woody.
>>2869828Got filtered by Debord award
>>2870384>Guthrie's second wife, Marjorie Mazia, was born Marjorie Greenblatt, and her mother Aliza Greenblatt was a well-known Yiddish poet. Guthrie wrote numerous Jewish lyrics that can be linked to his close collaborative relationship with Aliza Greenblatt, who lived near Guthrie and his family in Brooklyn in the 1940s. Guthrie, the Oklahoma troubadour, and Greenblatt, the Jewish wordsmith, often discussed their artistic projects and critiqued each other's works, finding common ground in their shared love of culture and social justice. Their collaboration flourished in 1940s Brooklyn, where Jewish culture was interwoven with music, modern dance, poetry, and anti-fascist, pro-labor, socialist activism. Guthrie was inspired to write songs that arose from this unlikely relationship; >These lyrics were rediscovered by Nora Guthrie and were set to music by the Jewish Klezmer group The Klezmatics with the release of Happy Joyous Hanukkah on JMG Records in 2007. The Klezmatics also released Wonder Wheel – Lyrics by Woody Guthrie, an album of spiritual lyrics put to music composed by the band.[139] The album, produced by Danny Blume, was awarded a Grammy Award for Best Contemporary World Music Album.[140]Lol he wasn't even Jewish, his wife was
>>2870384>Woody and Marjorie had three children, including a son, Arlo, and when it was time to prepare for his bar mitzvah, Marjorie contacted Yeshiva University’s Rabbinical School. They sent a young rabbinical student named Meir Kahane – who was later to become the founder of the JDL and an MK.https://www.jpost.com/international/article-749814
>In preparation for Guthrie’s “Hootenanny Bar Mitzvah,” his parents hired a “sweet young rabbi” as a tutor, Guthrie told The Journal during a phone interview. The rabbi’s name was Meir Kahane, who went on to become the extremist founder of the Jewish Defense League and the Kach political party.
>“Rabbi Kahane was a really nice, patient teacher, but shortly after he gave me my lessons, he started going haywire. Maybe I was responsible,” Guthrie said with a laugh.https://jewishjournal.com/culture/arts/10614/ >>2870384I hate nativists so much
>>2869716US is getting so shit that thirdworlists are starting to support US politicians
>>2870294Why don't you just draw it in MS paint yourself? Im sure it would still look like an 8 year old made it. What is the point of generating this?
>>2870384The woke left is trying to cancel Woodie for being pro USSR and rightly justifying molotovribbentrop
>>2870384Wtf bros didn't know he was a jew
>>2866547>A boat ride in Turkey cost like $100and the plane tickets?
and the hotel room cost?
and the food?
and what about work? are they on a vacation trip or how does that work? how can they afford not to work and have leisure time?
>>2870651money from tulsi gabberd's slush flund for black ops
>>2870651They're probably there on some supposed "party business" no? Or do you think they're actually on vacation sponsored by their members?
> what about work?Both these guys are streamers who make money by sitting in front of a camera lol
>>2870651Can someone explain to me why they all felt the need to be in Turkey during the NATO conference? They sure where not there in solidarity with repressed leftists.
>>2870654>Both these guys are streamers who make money by sitting in front of a camera lolyeah I guess it's fucking possible.
a barista is 'bourgeoise', 'parasites' even (some of the statements I've seen from their crowd) but these modern-day minstrels somehow aren't.
>>2870659I think that debate was mostly about what constitutes a "productive worker", aka someone who generates surplus for capitalists through the transformation of commodities by their labor, who should thus be organized as revolutionary proletariat. Imo, barista is a bit of a blurry occupation in that regard because at first glance it's a service job, but they still produce commodities in the form of fresh coffees that people consume, so idk they seem pretty proletarian to me.
It's a bit of a silly discussion in the first place. But the occupational status of their leadership is not really relevant to that I think. It's not a moral category like you seem to be implying. Lenin was a lawyer, but his non-productive worker status has no weight on who the Bolsheviks should have been organizing on a class basis or made them less of a proletarian party because he was not a factory worker or smt
>>2870651They were invited to a conference there, but why does it matter? Do you think blue collar workers in Western countries can't afford a vacation (not saying they are blue collar workers, but that's the point you are making)? Do you have to be a homeless bum who works day jobs to be a communist?
>>2870537>We're gonna pretend there wasn't a systematic undermining of social democracythats only possible because social-democracy fundamentally keeps the class rule intact
>>2870671don't really care either way but it looks fucking garbage lol
>>2870716>Do you think blue collar workers in Western countries can't afford a vacationNTA but i do think they should not vacation in Turkey, yes.
>>2870716I think it does matter if Haz et al are getting paid by either US/Russian/whatever intelligence to be wreckers. How can you trust someone if they're a paid propaganda tool?
>>2870747In which country are you allowed to vacation in?
>>2870761Oh okay so we are just fedjacking now after you realized your argument was retarded
>>2870768How is it fedjacketing? They literally have gone on state-sponsored visits to Russia to do stuff no normal person would be allowed to do
>>2870768IDK anon, none whilst they are holding the NATO summit and repressing their leftists.
>>2870747>NTA but i do think they should not vacation in Turkey, yes.thats stupid, you're falling for national spooks. communists should have access to every single community on the planet
>>2870821Ok anon. Enjoy your visit to Tel Aviv, i guess.
>>2870838spooked out of your gourd son. america is a bigger threat to humanity than israel could ever hope to be and nobody has a problem with workers traveling to and agitating here
>>2870840Not who you responded to, but I would look at a comrade very weirdly if they told me they went to USA on a holiday
>>2870841What country are you from?
>>2870841as a yank i welcome any and all foreigner that would like to live in hawaii and agitate for independence
>>2870842Finland
>>2870843I don't consider Hawaii to be part of USA
>>2870844>I don't consider Hawaii to be part of USAall the more reason to move here : ) we promise to assimilate you only a little bit
>>2870840> nobody has a problem with workers traveling toI do.
You should not be travelling to vacate in the USA.
Honestly, i can imagine you being shamed out of many an organizing space after admiting this.
>>2870850>attending socialist conferences in reactionary countries is le bad actuallymarx lived in London btw
>>2870853They attended a socialist conference? That's weird because they were actively glazing Turkey in the press as it was rounding up and arresting its socialists.
https://rrn.com.tr/en/jackson-hinkle-turkey-should-possess-nuclear-weapons/ >>2870869Geopolitical reasons.
>>2870869>Turkey>great civilizationWeren't they just a bunch of stepp-hillbilly mercenaries that turned on their employers in the middle ages and kept a chunk of the Roman Empire as loot?
>>2870869Im sorry but I'm never calling the country anything other than Turkey. I don't have those umlauts on my keyboard
>>2870868>Politically, he is a Eurasianist who favors closer relations with China and Russia, and is one of the most anti-American politicians in Turkey.Im supposed to hate this guy?
>>2870877>In Turkey, on 21 March 2008, Perinçek was detained as part of an investigation into the alleged organization named Ergenekon. This followed the arrest and detention of 39 suspects in January 2008 during raids targeting Ergenekon. On 5 August 2013 Perinçek was sentenced to aggravated life imprisonment.[14] He was released on 10 March 2014 together with many other prisoners.Turkish nationalists seem to be sensing a change in the winds and switching sides to China and Russia
>>2870568How is any of this Arlo’s fault?
>>2870869Bourgeois reasons.
>>2870953turkish nationalists care about one thing, redrawing the borders around them to strengthen the empire, they're smart enough to realize their relationship with the west actively counters that idea through israel. playing both sides will always be turkeys thing but at a certain point america will make them choose
>music makes the bourgeois sing and the rebel
What did Madonna mean by this?
Who's going to win the worldcup finals bros?
This unironically isn't even good spectacle.
>>2870384Okay, so what do we pragmatically do with this new info?
>>2870391They are killing themselves because right wing internet propaganda indoctrinated them into an insane worldview that stokes their inferiority complex.
>>2869828>Guy Debord and spectacle=Frankfurt SchoolAt least know what you are bitching about.
>>2870620>idgi????? why do people do something that takes 10 seconds instead of something that takes 10 minutes??????????????oh boy
>>2869828With comrade Gabriel Rockhill successfully exposing the CIA promotion of critical theory we need to discuss how critical theory (especially that of the Frankfurt School and deconstruction) is ultimately rooted in Jewish supremacist thought. Meaning, students of critical theory are being conditioned to see the world through a distinctly Jewish paradigm and this no doubt will end up conditioning them to think like Zionists.
Epistemology matters. We know that the Frankfurt School was overwhelmingly made up of Jewish intellectual elites who had very strong Jewish identities. Walter Benjamin was obsessed with Kabbalah (Jew-voodoo) and Jewish messianism and held a very Jewish-Gnostic outlook, nearly identical to that of the genocidal Jewish settlers in Palestine who want to accelerate the end times. Erich Fromm was heavily inspired by the teachings of Chabad-Lubavitch, one of the biggest genocidal Zionist organizations in the world. Hell, even Adorno’s “negative dialectics” have their root in Kabbalah and traditional Jewish thought. Critical theory itself is stylized in a way similar to Talmudism. As far as postmodernism is concerned, Derrida was very traditionally Jewish as well and this too made up the backbone of his deconstructionist method.
So why is the ivory tower trying to make us think like Jews? Why can’t we throw out this garbage and embrace a distinctly Palestinian and Islamic paradigm as our source of interpreting modern society? Intellectual elites love privileging Judaism over the universal faiths of Christianity and Islam because said elites love how Judaism practically worships intellectuals and calls for intellectual elites to rule over the toiling masses.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CYl845GORmM(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2870210>we boll should have stuck to boxing, filmmaking with CTE must be really hard.uwe boll has been making trash films for like 20 years though
>>2871229Rockhill explicitly called them Jewish supremacists and Zionists.
>>2870855well, everyone knew by the time what Marx was doing for a living. and we know what he was doing for a living.
also, 'lived' is an understatement. He was exiled. the german government want him dead.
>>2871247>european detectedtoo bad.
>>2871218If you're gonna make something purposefully look like shit or low quality, you might as well do it yourself no? Or generate something more impressive that you can't do yourself at least
>>2871248i'm american. it used to not do this when logged out. just kinda funny. not a big deal
>>2871250in addition to taking less time, the sloppa imitating 8 year old honestly did better than an actual 8 year old would have, or most adults for that matter.
>uh uh well ackshually uh if you wanted Spain to win ur a freakin cringe libtard
r/RSP is crying over Argentina losing, feels good
Israeltina lost. Cape Verde won.
>>2871271most classless group of cavemen in the entire tournament
>>2871276i don't even like football but it's crazy that fifa doesn't do anything about it for the sake of their own brand.
1 minute of silence for the right-wing pedophiles with anime avatars on X who adopted Argentina as their team
>>2871272anya taylor is funny lookin and a fake blonde
>>2871340Argentina lost, Hasan won. Seethe.
>>2871342honestly half expect BE to make some fucktarded video about how the argies losing was some imperialist ploy
>>2871340BE is always right about these guys but people don't like admitting it
>>2871340Only thing Pedo Empanada destroys is his credibility.
>>2871349it's really easy to criticise others while only bringing toxicity and clout chasing to the world yourself. if BE wants to show he's better then he should try building a brand that isn't totally based on attacking other leftists
>>2871351like yeah, hasan is a democrat shill, but i would still rather hang out with him than BE and it's not even close
>>2871352What does it matter who you want to hang out with?
>>2871351You would hate Marx and Engels, who spent far more time beating down Proudhon and Bakunin and Duhring than they ever did on the bourgeois of their time
>>2871354people who are are unpleasant creeps can't build movements.
>>2871355idk, i mean they definitely seemed pretty self-centred, i probably would respect people who were 'active' revolutionaries rather than primarily theorists more yeah
>>2871355Yeah, they do sound kinda pretentious dicks tbqh.
>>2871357BE clearly isn't trying to build a movement though, and the movement Hasan is building is just guiding people towards the democratic party, a genocidal imperialist capitalist party that will not change.
Pedo Empanada isn't even a communist.
>>2871351Fucking lmao you spineless rat
>>2871364So? And hasan is?
>>2871364So? The truth is the truth no matter whose mouth speaks it
>>2871364He's actually a trot
>>2871370More communist than him.
>>2871371then why not just say 'hasan is shit' (true) instead of spamming this retard's videos on this board, i swear i've seen 20 fucking BE videos linked on this website
>>2871370hasan doesn't reject the label, be does
>>2871364>the reactionary sexpat isn't a communistimagine my shock
>>2871362If it won't change then it will split as a result of Hasanites joining it.
>>2871376Honest reactionaries are better than lying opportunistic “communists”
At least BE didn't endorsed Platner
>>2871352Yes and I am a mighty king, reigning over lands as far as I can see, come my son I have a magnificent bridge to sell you! Why ofcourse, the sky is green and the grass is yellow, because I say so!
>>2871374Brother this is /isg/
>>2871380real communists hold their noses and vote for the rapist murderer you fucking disgusting thirdoid ultroid fuck you
>>2871379>Honest reactionaries are better than lying opportunistic “communists”false, Lenin knew Roman Malinovsky was an okhrana spy and let him continue to do good party work, you dont care about winning enough
At least Hasan isn't a pedo.
>>2871378Highly unlikely, most of these Hasanites are just liberal progressive democrats already who will compromise and move to the right on any position the Democrats pressure them enough on, as seen with previous "socialists". The ones that won't are incredibly few in number if they exist at all and will just be drummed out of the party when they become too much of an annoyance and it'll be easy since there is no genuine strong coalition or coherent movement to pressure anyone, just various individuals who are slightly more left than the average democrat politician.
Proof that BE is a pedo?
>>2871403He's a westerner that went to go live in an impoverished country for unknown reasons + he looks like one
Proof that BE isn't a pedo?
DNC shills out in force
>>2871407>bro trust meWhy are Hasanoids like this?
>>2871416Bro is the true fourth sword of global revolution
>>2870674another weird thing they have is that their crowd is obsessed in (name-)calling 'leftist' whatever thing they don't like. even to people that have read Marx, publicly shown they read Marx, Lenin, Mao, call themselves communists, they are somehow 'demoted' by the ACP crowd and end up called 'leftist'. the ACP crowd use the word 'leftist' as a slur.
absolutely infantile.
>>2871267I lost 50 dollars by thinking that ZIOnel MeSSi would win.
I should have supported the true antiimperialist in the room. Yamal and the God-Emperor Sanchez
COMUNISM WILL WIN >>2871340BE has a discord server?
>>2871420>>2871416cannot unsee what has seen.
>>2871416lol speed was there?
>>2871427Of course he does. Easy access to minors.
>>2871426I lost $20 on Cape Verde because they never called Messi’s fouls
>>2871430That's future vice chairman to you.
>>2871436Richard Spencer (that Nazi who got punched) realized this and became a full pro-EU/NATO neoliberal
>>2871442A continuous increase in co2 levels is a nothingburger?
>>2871415I acknowledge there's no proof whatsoever that BE is a sexpat, but it's funny and it's the kind of thing he would probably say if it was about someone else
>>2871378>then it will split as a result of Hasanites joining it.then there will be three dengist parties in the US instead of just two
>>2871400>most of these Hasanites are just liberal progressive democrats already who will compromise and move to the right on any position the Democrats pressure them enough onFirst, if that were true then I don't think the Democratic leadership would be reacting the way they are, i.e. losing their shit and seething about it. Second, even if it is true then it just means that the growing desire for American politics to move left will still require a genuine outlet, one that actually pursues the kind of policies they want (a kind of social democracy that the DNC has made it clear they wont tolerate). That puts us back to square one, where these people will either take over the Democratic party or split from it. The growth of the DSA is a political manifestation of a material phenomenon, that is the intensification of class antagonism in the US. Even if the DNC completely succeeded in absorbing or otherwise neutralizing the DSA, they wouldn't eliminate the material basis for its growth.
>>2871505The class antagonism there is between the petit and haute bourgeois, not between the proletariat and bourgeois which is what you’re implying
>>2871508Who won and who lost?
BREAKING: CLAVICULAR JUST BROKE UP WITH HIS ISRAELI HONEYPOT GIRLFRIEND
>>2871420Fuck sake.
>>2871416This man needs new glasses.
>>2871426You didn't put your money on Spain?
You tool. They've had a great tournament. Solid squad.
We could have told you this for free beforehand anon.
>>2871576I really thought that the match was fixed
Hell, 2 goals were nulled to Spain. Couldn't think that Argenina would suck so hard. But its not the first time that has happened this cup. Cabo Verde has eaten millions in bets like that
>>2871574He just wanted the $7,000.
>>2871512No it isn't, there is obviously a class antagonism among American between workers and the bourgeoisie, and the increasing appetite for social democracy is a manifestation of it. Petty bourgs align far more with the DNC and GOP than they do the DSA.
X suspended the british consulate in Jerusalem account for posting these.
should be
https://nitter.net/UKinJerusalem>>2871601literally "shut it down!"
>>2871505Losing their shit does not mean any of this is a meaningful threat to them, they lost their shit at AOC and would anyone claim she is a threat to the Democrat establishment at this point? Wasting all this energy trying to win over a genocidal party is a doomed strategy, all this anger and energy does require an outlet but idiots like Hasan and DSA are channeling all of it into ineffectual attempt at taking over the Democrats, years of work that could be spent building an actual workers party and stronger labor movement is wasted just to end up back at square one in a few more years as you yourself say. That's a stupid strategy. The material basis has existed since the decades, over a century, but it hasn't resulted in a strong lasting socialist movement or party in this country and this won't be any different. Why would it?
>>2870626That's my thoughts too.
Literally EVERYONE, even the most hardcore third worldism is shitting and laughing at Argentina right now.
Only way they come out of this one is via a communist revolution.
>>2871229What's wrong with Judaism and Kabbalah?
>>2871746I mean, I don't know shit about football and I even I could see the way they acted like childish assholes all the time
>>2871340Lel people still seething at BE for being correct about everything
>>2871423Ehh these things are not really my issue with them. It's not a bad thing to differentiate yourself from the chaff. Especially in america where people consider even the DNC "leftist" lol. I care more about the regressive social views of their leadership, their views on homosexuality and feminism and stuff, though imo it doesn't necessarily represent the party as a whole, it doesn't look good to me. But them calling people "leftists" as an insult is not that big a deal
They seem to be quite hostile and abrasive to those who they deem enemies of their party line or whatever, doesn't really matter if they've read the correct books or not
Also this is mostly just randos beefing on twitter, which is not really consequential
>>2871899Argentina losing the finals is what will cause a revolution
>>2871899Haven't been following the world cup. Argentina made it to the finals? Gross, I was rooting for mexico or Brazil. Who else made it?
>>2871254>Lenin wears western style suit<I sleep>Hasan wears eastern style suit>REAL SHITit's kind of funny how the Zhongshan suit makes Mao live rent free (lol) in chud brains even though Chiang Kai Shek and Sun Yat Sen also wore them. But eastern scary and bad I guess.
>>2871430remember when speed dressed as a bolshevik and lit himself on fire
Why did Stalin intially give his support to Chiang Kai Shek?
>>2871871What is this slop
>>2871899sports fans will put more effort into civil unrest over their team losing than over actual political issues lol
>>2867187> Video of presenting police not doing their jobJust need more white people to be beaten up by cops to think grander o algo
>>2872056>Yehuda HaKohenOhhh yeah. He's bad news. Incidentally members of his cult were trying to get in with Infrared/ACP people, like some shared Discord server. Weird stuff.
>>2871871> 2:00 - "The Nordic Countries with their social democracies and socialist societies many western socialists envision…"And this video is complete retardation. The Nordic countries are capitalist, you retard.
In the next year or so, there will be a new hot type of youtube reviewer chud archetype. Y'know how they be, they will pretty much make being into Fallout their only personality and come off as a well educated hipster type but then go on rants about how indie games and woke suck. The reason for this is quite simple, chuds are starting to look like a bunch of retards who are culturally philistinic but there isn't any actual intellectuals in the right these days so the best they can come up with is "Smarmy anti-woke reviewer who's autism score is 100 instead of in the 90's" like Critical Drinker and the like come off as.
>>2872216That's their commune right? Sheesh that place looks like a dump. Hope they know home renovation and landscaping.
>>2872221Yep, that's their place. They can't even pick a few weeds and make it look presentable.
>>2871977Anarchists are the living embodiment of individualist
>everybody wants a village, nobody wants to be a villagerbrain rot
>>2872216why are you mad at the only group that does anything at all to build dual power in the USA
>>2872216>white trash burger wearing afrika korps shirtwhich political side is it again
>>2872229They're Duginite Nazbols at best and Nazis at worse.
They are anti-communists LARPing as leftists to try to drag people into reactionary thought.
They do nothing but seethe about gays and say (unironically) that Islam IS communism.
Bro is wearing a t shirt repping a Russian PMC that beheads puppies and who's found has SS and Totenkopf tattoos.
They do NOTHING to help America. You think a handful of hyper reactionary social democrats in a streamer's cult will save your shithole country? For the love of Marx start reading theory.
>>2872229>dual powerI don't think they have even a single power.
>>2872236They arnt duginists or nazis thats retarded you dont know anything you are fucking talking about
they DEFEND dugin from being called a nazi and cooperate with eurasianists for Multipolarity purposes they do not agree with the ideology at all further there is no reactionary thought im a trans woman and they have been nothing but kind and i have not seen them in official party buisness push anything even remotely reactionary
they do shit like rep Wagner as a thing to make people angry or get engagement
and they do help you can see they do alot with what little the ACP has you can see all the work they do here
https://acp.us/chapters >>2872236ACP looks like a Larouche style cult for the social media era. They trade in clout and, as soon as they are established enough, they'll begin selling their services to the glowies, all the glowies, to meet inside and spy on each other.
Even if one thinks the ACP are just misguided, all they have is clout and all they seek is more of it. At best, they are a red tinted MLM for clout-based business, like influencers.
>>2872240>They're not Nazis, they defend Nazis from being called Nazis I'm sorry you're retarded
>>2872248it measures exposer retard the entire point of a leninist party IS propaganda primarily agitation is the main engine
>>2872249Not watching your Nazi cult's anti-communist propaganda
>>2872251Well if we're comparing all the socialists parties in America, they're way behind in the twitter likes battle.
>>2872139DropSite also named HaKonen as a top Canary Mission doxxer. He lives in a West Bank settlement, before moving there he was a JDL guy and some kind of mobster from NYC. At the same time he is pushing this idea that Israel is a non-Western state and should adopt some Eurasian / anti-Western multipolar larp.
>>2872252So you dont actually know anything about them what they believe or what they do you just spew bullshit that other leftists told you to think
>>2872255In members over time they have had the fastest growth rate of all of them
>>2872338How many do they have?
>>28723421k members in 3 years
>>2871684>Wasting all this energy trying to win over a genocidal party is a doomed strategyOf course it's doomed, the best possible result is that there will be a purge and the DSA people will be thrown out of the party, hopefully turning that organization into a real party in the process. Imo they should just jump ship now and cut out the middle man. What I don't believe though is that the entire thing is an elaborate kabuki theatre where the opposition between the DNC and DSA is totally staged. The former have shown that they are serious about keeping social democrats from influencing the party, which of course also applies to anything more radical. And I find it pretty hard to believe that the entire politics of the DSA is an elaborate ruse that isn't even interested in social democracy. Such a thing would be impossible to pull off in an organization that's so decentralized and with so few tools to enforce any kind of party line. Even if the leadership tried to pull something like that, they'd eventually start attracting people who took it seriously.
>>2872349Today I must remind them:
>Unlike political parties in some parliamentary systems where the central party leadership can force members to vote a certain way or easily strip them of their party affiliation, the American political system gives the Democratic National Committee (DNC) almost no formal control over how elected officials govern, vote, or act. The DNC is primarily an organizational, fundraising, and campaign strategy body—not a public policy or legislative governing unit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_CommitteeSo if you're already getting your money from small donors they have no power over you with the money. The only other power they have is inside congress with the committee assignments, but the same thing would apply if you were there as a third party.
>>2871760>What's wrong with Judaism?Is that a serious question?
are we pretending that one cult is worse than the other cults again
>>2872444Bro's name is HerZOG 😭
>>2872229because its easier to get at the people doing anything than it is to admit maybe you're wrong about them
>>2872449The question wasn't which is worse:
>>2871760>What's wrong with Judaism? So did anyone clip Ben Shapiro saying 'The Kulaks must burn"?
>>2872450sjws changed it from hiszog. smh. the vvest has fallen
>>2872487So he is now a marxist-leninist?
>>2872315sorry thuglicans, blackbook shit doesnt work anymore? don't like it theres the door.
I don't think I will be a good cadre, I really do suck at speaking. At least I hope I'm able to develop other comrades.
>>2872229*build dual living-space
>>2872452>because its easier to get at the people doing anything than it is to admit maybe you're wrong about themHow is some wannabe commune thing noteworthy at all? Do you know how many of those there are in the USA?
>>2872216place bets on when the weird kinky sex scandals leak?
It's funny too because ACP are the same people who would virulently hate on any hippy commune.
>What if we do our own hippy commune?
>But shittier?
>With way more dicks to chicks ratio?
>>2872236>Nazis at worse.Crazy how they borrow more from Heidegger than Marx and we're supposed to pretend not to notice what praxis that implies.
>>2872553lots of closeted bisexuality, and coke
The ACP's haters are like 90 percent neurotic transhumanists who have a level of political narcissism only rivaled by Epsteinites so thats fucking bleak considering I don't even like the ACP for all the coal they post online
>>2871760Judaism and Jewishness is literally just bourgeois society
>>2872236>muh wagners a hecking nazi brigadeliterally just kill yourself newgen transhumanist cuck
>>2872585>Muh both sidesYeesh, truly the worst type of posters. What is the point of your statement even?
>>2872589>waah waah waah don't shit all over me for posting coal only shit on the people I don't like for posting coal just kill yourself already
>>2872592larping as a sharty user award o algo
>>2872585>Judaism and Jewishness is literally just bourgeois societyGet tf out of here, Bakunin
>>2872587They did emphasize that Wagner is a private military company. Strange thing for communists to support. Blackwater was also a PMC. It's also pretty stupid as mercenaries can cause you a lot of trouble. Machiavelli:
>Now, the armies a ruler is depending on to defend his state will either be his own, or mercenaries, or auxiliaries, or some combination of these. Mercenaries and auxiliaries are useless and dangerous. If you are counting on mercenaries to defend your state you will never be stable or secure , because mercenaries are ambitious, undisciplined, disloyal, and they quarrel among themselves. Courageous with friends and cowardly with enemies, they have no fear of God and keep no promises. With mercenaries the only way to delay disaster is to delay the battle; in peacetime they plunder you and in wartime they let the enemy plunder you. Why? Because the only interest they have in you and their only reason for fighting is the meager salary you’re paying them, and that’s not reason enough to make them want to die for you. Sure, they’re happy enough to be your soldiers when you’re not at war, but when war comes, they run for it, or just disappear. >>2872645When they blew up Proghozin they kinda folded wagner in the state, but still somehow gave them the distasteful name of "africa korps" and let them kill and rape away random villagers. I will never understand Russian foreign policy, it's like they don't care
>>2872749BE talking about americans :
>Every single American is baby killers that deserve to be nuked, they kill the third world and then throw a party about itWhen you talk about argentinians
>hmm actually, muh presumption of innocence, muh prejudice, you're doing an hecking stigmatization >>2872749>>2872755Even more funny after Argentina voted for Maradona Trump
>>2872749The way he describes it you'd think argentina has full socialism.
Isn't it amazing that a whitoid can just move there and reap the benefits they haven't contributed to
>>2872749Lolllll I knew this piece of shit was gonna be like this. Why can't he just accept that the team behaved like animals and move on
>>2872774>The way he describes it you'd think argentina has full socialism.only if you are a retard
>>2872807Argentina was the more Zionist team though. But ok I apologise for the small fraction of my tax money that goes towards bombs for Israel
>>2872812shit apology, blow your brains out with one of your guns.
>>2872817I'm from UK so I don't have any 😔
>>2872755>BE talking about the most imperialist and reactionary country in history responsible for untold atrocities and killing literal millions of communists across the globe>It's bad
>BE talking about a random latin american country under the boot of US imperialism >It's not as bad as the US
>Your retarded ass>Why isn't he treating them like the same thing???? Whaaaaa???? Holy fuck man american chauvinists are insane
>>2872813Ok I will give a slight concession, I think some of the stuff people have been saying about Argentina, the country of millions, is fucked up. But everything being said about the football team is correct and some of the stuff people have been saying about Argentines seem to be a loser nation who can't get over losing a suicidal war that they started, and by "they" I mean their fascist dictator. Like they could just admit the whole thing is stupid, ok you want the Falklands back but you don't have to be so obsessed about it, the Malvinas tribute thing at the end of the game with England was just lame, it's so obvious. How about talk about something that's actually an atrocity in the world like Gaza. Oh no, we can't talk about that because Israel are trying to rig the world cup so we win
>>2872822It's just very telling for mr "you should be ashamed of your country of war criminals" to be now defending where he lives even though it's also Zionist as fuck
>>2872822you're clearly mentally challenged
>>2872822>Holy fuck man american chauvinists are insanethe whole platner thing proved beyond any doubt that iron felix's accusations of strasserism in the american "left" are true for at least a significant sector of it
>>2872825Because it's literally incomparable you dumb fuck. Argentina is only as reactionary as it is because of America's influence over the continent, not the other way around. America supplies 80% of the weapons for israel, it sends them billions of dollars. Anything that retard Milei could do that is also "zionist as fuck" is peanuts in comparison
Christ you idealists make me fucking sick. Nothing is real to you retards, it's all just thoughts and vibes and sin and shit. Yes america is a thousand times worse than argentina, it's not "telling" at all to make that observation
>>2872826You are literally retarded
>>2872831Stay mad dummy
>>2872833It's abhorrent, god I hate americans so much man. The thing is they can't even see it. Fish talking about what's water type shit
>>2872843THE LARP
IS UNREAL
Argentina did nothing wrong, messi is a heckin wholesome third world socialist billionaire, the US backed military dictatorship was right to decolonize the falklands
BE is an anticommunist who pretends to be riled up on the internet for money. If you give him the time of your day, you're hopeless.
>>2872843Vibes based socialism.
That’s all this is.
>>2872749This is gold lmao
>>2872822>talking about countryNotice how I didn't even mention a country, I said American and Argentinians, as in when he speak about the people living there, not their government.
Also my problem is not that he's wrong in the first point, nor that I think america is good or whatever, it's that he plays the exact cards that topple the argument above, in an obvious ironic act of hypocrisy.
>>2872864If I speak I'm in big trouble
>>2872868Of course chuds would find the anti-capitalist/anti-rape culture game that women are celebrating "boring", lol
>>2872870It makes no difference, you're just coping about semantics now. You defined them by their nationality in the first place so the difference between the nations is what matters
Americans live in america, argentinians live in Argentina. The difference between those populations as people is on that basis
Yes when you're talking about different people in different countries it's not all the same nebulous thing, there's nothing hypocritical about that
>>2872842.>it's AmeriKKKa's fault that ArgenSSimians are racist and zionist
The cope is real
>>2872843Haz fucking grew up?
That's crazy.
>>2872889But those people are clearly from Nuuh Yawck
>>2872899>argentina has been a racist nation since its very inception>Shows a UN resolution from this yearLOL ok retard
>this is coming from someone who preferred them to beat spainThat's the gravest crime admitted to itt so far
>>2872749Why are burgeroids so obsessed with condemning Argentina, like they aren't committing two genocides concurrently, in the middle east and in the Americas right now? Is this some sort of mega burger cope? Do you think wealthy white Americans aren't currently full on Hitlerites driving hitlerism abroad
Argies aren't more racist than the rest of latam they're just way louder, shameless and more extroverted.
They say out loud and proudly what other latinos only say timidly in closed doors.
If you have a any opinion about Argentina due to the world cup other than "Such a dirty team", you are a literal fucking subhuman. You need to be put in an electric chair gor being a fucking retard
>>2872903Yes, it's a particularly american cope. Nobody actually cares or knowns anything about argentina, they're just repeating nonsense they heard other burgers say as a sort of "see, other countries are bad too!!!" type of thing
its bad when oppressor nations beat oppressed nations like argentina yes
BE realizes that much of the Argentina hate in connection with the world cup doesn't even come mostly from the US or even American leftists, yes?
>>2872842How could what we say on Twitter possibly not be about vibes?
>>2872906It is actually more racist to call a black player a monkey out loud rather than just think it
>>2872576what borger is describing here is an extremely standard definition of communism and you can't just refute it by putting a soyjak next to it
>>2872585you will never be a party
>>2872929That's fair enough, but Im talking more about people's outlook
>>2872843Was watching this live yesterday kek. Apparently they infiltrated some fat club making powerpoints against jackson and eddie.
>>2872315>was responsibleAccording to whom?
>>2872897>including all of central europe in WWI and WWIIA nazi made this map lmao
>>2872798Who is the guy in the mask?
Not a Matan viewer but every episode I click is the masked guy.
>>2872807>apologise for gaza.I will go to the future Trump Tower personally and apologize
>>2867672>>2867674Maybe not the right thread, but a good question to ask oneself is could China be as powerful as it is today if it was orthodox marxist? It's really annoying how you cannot really compete against capitalism in a peaceful competition without adopting their methods. Almost as if any truly socialist country needs to destroy capitalist empires before instituting socialism.
>>2872753>When they blew up Proghozin they kinda folded wagner in the state, but still somehow gave them the distasteful name of "africa korps" and let them kill and rape away random villagers. I will never understand Russian foreign policy, it's like they don't careIn the main foreign policy is a reflection of domestic policy (also domestic "contradictions"), it tells you something about the state. There was a lot of crime in Russia in the 1990s after the implosion of the USSR, but what happened is that elements of this mafia/criminal community were half-integrated with the state. You have a regular state as the main structure and then criminal side wrapped around it like an exoskeleton. Then the state pumped money and weapons into this autonomous paramilitary group, which was not completely controlled by them, and that was dangerous because the state loses its monopoly on violence, which was compensated in this case by Prigozhin being personally close to Putin. This was functional in Syria or in African brushfire wars but turned into a liability when the Ukraine war turned into a regular war, because that created competition over resources between the regular army and this private army, which then turned into a violent conflict between the two; or between Prigozhin and the Ministry of Defense. Then the principal let this fester until it got out of control.
The "Nazi" thing might be too easy. Like yeah they named themselves after Richard Wagner, and some of them had Nazi tattoos (well, they were criminals, recruited out of prisons), and may or may not have chopped a guy up in Africa and arranged his arms and legs in the shape of a swastika. But I don't think that is because of Nazi ideology and Wagner is a neo-Nazi organization as much as these guys are just violent criminals and killers.
>>2872922>BE realizes that much of the Argentina hate in connection with the world cup doesn't even come mostly from the US or even American leftists, yes?Yeah Americans don't pay that much attention to soccer. They just saw Argentina for the first time and are like "why are they like this?" And everyone else in the world goes, okay, let us explain. First of all, these people are bastards…
>>2872967>Almost as if any truly socialist country needs to destroy capitalist empires before instituting socialism.nonsense, the CPC has already established that peaceful coexistence with these empires is the way, you are just a CIA ultroid thats mad because China is winning
>>2872897Slavery was widespread in the Spanish Empire and was legal in Argentina until 1853. I don't think you need the Americans to trick them into be racist to Black people.
>>2872889you gotta ask yourself what class of argentinian is wealthy enough to travel to the USA in these times. and is that class representative of the majority
>>2872967They'd probably be in a situation close to Cuba. Not entirely blockaded but cut off from the world without much of the development that has made them successful.
Many leftists outside of China would prefer this situation to the current reality because of the seething over revisionism.
>>2872993That goes for every country in latin america dumbass
>>2872982>In the main foreign policy is a reflection of domestic policy (also domestic "contradictions"), it tells you something about the state. There was a lot of crime in Russia in the 1990s after the implosion of the USSR,Reminder about preegozynn.
>He participated in a burglary spree in Leningrad, before being caught after choking a woman on the street during a robbery, with him and accomplices then stealing the woman's earrings and boots.[45][47] In 1981, he was sentenced to twelve years' imprisonment in a high-security penal colony for robbery, theft, fraud, and involving minors in criminal activity.[43][47]Fucking clown country.
>>2872993>and was legal in Argentina until 1853thats when the argentinian state was founded, so it was never legal in the sociopolitical entity currently known as argentina
>>2873028Crime pays well.
>>2872988Is this bait?
>>2873005So in other words the capitalists are right. Why can't a socialist country form a trade bloc with other socialist countries and defeat western capitalist empires in the game of consumerism? But then again, China is doing that and now america is threatening war. Seems like Trotsky was right. We should apologize to the great alpinist.
>>2873043>washington post>chinafile>worldpeachfoundation blogChina needs to enslave american twitter users. Plox china, plox enslave these cretins. I will volunteer to be enslaved with them just to rub it in.
>>2873063American rich are more dangerous lol. They are openly and actively right now taking away your human rights by pushing for unincorporated territories so they can suspend the constitution. There is no way they didn't honeypot Taibbi with something.
>>2873005China way to fucking big to compare it to Cuba in any way
I'm a trot, I hope you don't hate me.
Maybe we should ask the Chinese and Georgians what they think of their historical leaders? No let's hear it from propagandized Americans instead
>>2872912ArgenSSimians were already hated and laughed at by everyone in the iberosphere. AmeriKKKans are just getting up to date.
>>2872875Argentina is also in America
>>2872930I never said other latinos just think it, but that they dont say that stuff in public. I'm Chilean and I see it a lot. A person will act polite with a venezuelan migrant for instance only to then get home and say "narices de enchufe culiaos pa cuando los hechan"
>>2873422end result of subscribing to an ideology that believes you should be able to do anything you want to whomever you want and any pushback is an unjustified assault on you and your values.
>>2873422Rape is about expressing power, and conservatives view their children specifically and children in general as chattel over which they should have unlimited power.
>>2873456What's specific about football to make so many people revert to cavemen?
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