>>2818399>That still doesn't equate to worthless.As a vehicle for agitprop?
>None of us haveYes, I'm deliberately reducing the conversation for western movies, I said that I was doing it. if you don't like it then don't argue anything, it would be a waste of time to argue categorically in a way that is fundamentally removed from the current moment.
>>2818399>You psychos have this bizzare obsession with breadtube faggots and keep seeing them in places that don't exist.Also this is deranged, as if western art performing anti-capitalism wasn't widely understood as a feature of capitalism already by most philosophers indulging in ideology, you guys are way out of line because bad empanada makes you extremely angry, and you need to take a breather.
>>2818436>As a vehicle for agitprop?Yes. Most any tool that can be used by the bourgeois can be used by the proletariat. That's like Marxism 101.
>Yes, I'm deliberately reducing the conversation for western moviesWhy? But also, the point still stands.
>>2818441>Why?Like I said, it would be divorced from the current moment where movies are obviously not transforming the base, as I said already, which would imply that art is reinforcing conditions from the superstructure, no matter how anti-capitalist they present themselves as. It doesn't matter if it's Wall-E or the new superman movie, over-consumption and genocide are unchanged facts despite their existence and wide recognition.
>>2818433>but this bitch is fed posting on mainbased, houdini style
>>2818440>as if western art performing anti-capitalism wasn't widely understood as a feature of capitalism already by most philosophers indulging in ideologyWho are these supposed "philosophers indulging in ideology"?
>you guys are way out of line because bad empanada makes you extremely angry,He annoys me, but he does not make me angry. What does anger me is that a man as obviously stupid has an audience, even if it is a small one, and that said audience consists of people stupider than him.
Of course, the overall sentiment you're trying to express is that I've automatically "lost" because I felt a negative emotion towards something that doesn't bother you. It's an absolutely moronic thing to think, but it's also unfortunately common enough that I'm not exactly surprised to see it.
>>2818442That's like asking why over-consumption and genocide still exist despite people watching Hasan Piker, reading Noam Chomsky, and listening to John Lennon. If you think that Wall-E represents anti-capitalist politics in any meaningful way, I genuinely don't know what to tell you.
>>2818457>Who are these supposed "philosophers indulging in ideology"?Simon Penny? Mona Sarkis? Robert Pfaller? And yes, eventually recuperated by Mark Fisher and Zizek? It's not particularly controversial!
> That's like asking why over-consumption and genocide still exist despite people watching Hasan Piker, reading Noam ChomskyIt is a valid question, I know you're trying to reduce it to some sort of absurd, but those are, indeed, ostensibly anti-capitalist figures! Why are the excess of capitalism still so ever-present if anti-capitalist figures are not only present, but mainstream!
>>2818458 (me)
It seems you're willing to recognize that indeed, anti-capitalism is something that CAN be performed without it transforming the base, but you're just not willing to extend it beyond Hasan Piker or whatever, why?
>>2818463 (me)
Maybe you can counter with a western movie that is in your opinion actually valuable as an ideological vehicle for communism, and has demonstrable impact to advance its cause? Like what sort of pedagogical masterpiece is everyone missing here
>>2818458>>2818463It's because, in truth, they don't actually offer any meaningful opposition to capitalism besides, at most, complaints that it isn't being done in a better, more equitable way. They're pretty much universally advocating for Franklin Roosevelt, not Vladimir Lenin.
Going back to Wall-E, it addresses problems caused by capitalism, but does so from a very individualistic, moralistic lens, where the problem is not our underlying economic system, but instead greed, sloth, and gluttony. Remember, the movie ends with everyone going back down to earth and arbitrarily deciding "okay, we're going to stop being so lazy and take better care of the environment now!", which somehow makes everything better.
>>2818469The problem is that Western cinema generally is controlled by the bourgeois. If something has a genuinely radical message, it's not going to receive the funding or marketing it needs to reach a mass audience. You're asking for something that isn't allowed to exist.
>>2818422>ha$an says maureen gallindo is hecking antisemiticlol that lady is obviously more than a bit incoherent and it's unlikely hasan, who deems himself a serious politico, would support her, despite the fact that he doesn't risk anything in particular because he is not a serious politico, he's a twitch streamer.
>>2818422She's too much of a schizo to support.
Only salvageable part of her rhetoric is that supporting Israel over your own country's interests is treasonous.
>>2818486pretty much my take on her too
>>2818486>She's too much of a schizo to support.schizo bad but psychos like Platner (glows) are good enough for Haᛋᛋan (millionare)
>>2818485>he's a twitch streamer.and a DNC agent
>>2818497platner is at least a socdem making socdem points
>platner is at least a socdem
everytime you read the word "socdem" translate it in your head into "neoliberal" if you want to stop being cattle
>>2818481>Going back to Wall-E, it addresses problems caused by capitalism, but does so from a very individualistic, moralistic lensOk let's extend the movie catalogue a bit further, what about critically acclaimed documentary The Voice of Hind Rajab? It offers a much more succinct prescription, ending the genocide. Despite massive critical acclaim, the genocide is still present and shows no signs of stopping from the western world, it has sparked no protests in the west, in fact, it has achieved nothing, despite winning mainstream awards, why is this?
>The problem is that Western cinema generally is controlled by the bourgeois.But that would sort of affirm that you can't produce art under the current mode of production that also doubles as an effective vehicle for agitprop, yes? I know we're somewhat in agreement at this point and we're hashing out practically details, but when I look at the replies against Bad Empanada, nobody is jumping to the fray presenting Yo Soy Cuba as a counter-example, which I would still suspect that it would be co-opted anyway under capitalism as interpassive entertainment, because Cuba IS being starved
>>2818500it doesn't really matter either way, that he is a socdem is obvious, but ultimately irrelevant
>>2818412>it is objectively useless.Then why does art exists?
>>2818507 (me)
What about this? Was this a useful vehicle to change foreign policy? What about Michael Moore's Farenheit 911, was that an effective vehicle to end the Iraq War? Was the prescription of ending the iran war framed as "individualistic" here, or what do you think failed during the anti-bush, anti-iraq war era? what is your diagnosis here, what do you think was misunderstood about the message, what was not captured that would've made anti iraq-war art actually effective to alter foreign policy
>>2818556why does any entertainment exist, really. why do theme parks exist. why do sex shops exist.
>>2818558All those things have a reason of being, they respond to a need. Otherwise, there wouldn't be an incentive for humans to develop these industries. When you are saying that art is useless, you are pretty much saying there's no reason for it to exist. So explain how every work of art of any type wasn't inspired by any purpose.
>>2818564when BE says art is "politically useless", he is saying art is unable to achieve the political goals it's aiming towards. but i suppose letting americans quell their guity conscience by allowing them to indulge in the consumption of "correct" media IS a social function, you're right!
>>2818567I don't give a fuck about Americans breadtubers. I do care about BE's broad statement because I think is fundamentally wrong. To say art and artists are overrated is one thing, to say they are completely worthless politically is another. Yes, art alone doesn't win revolutions, and artists aren't revolutionary geniuses either, but then for what purpose do humans create art to represent political movements or express struggle? Why does propaganda manifest through art?
>>2818573>but then for what purpose do humans create art to represent political movements or express struggle?in the case for americans, it is to let them indulge in politically inert performance of action, as i explained before, you're right, that is indeed a useful incentive for the production and reproduction of art in the west, don't sell yourself short, you were onto something!
If 4chan is supposed to be "edgy" and "contrarian" why haven't they gone full woke now that every fucking social media from Instagram to X to TikTok is filled with mysognistic, racist and homophobic bullshit
It's almost like they were just bigots all along
>>2818576Because you arent selling them on the fact that most corporations are outselling them to indians and globalism and so on.
if you asked them what they think of elon musk they would most likely hate him on /pol/ for trying to replace them.
>>2818553>that he is a socdem is obviousnot really, just saying socdem things doesnt make you a socdem, I know its hard to believe but sometimes political candidates lie
>>2818578Anti-Indian racism is rampant on X and Instagram. My point is why does /pol/ still pretend being a chud is le heckin countercultural when the last years prove these reactionary beliefs are still widespread in society and were just slightly held back during the Obama era
>>2818591yes but they were never rampant before a few years ago.
they follow thrends SOMEWHAT. which is what you see at pol and int. that being said if you want be taken super seriously at there you just need to not worry about that and do what you are still doing like IT and car manufacturing until it dies off like atheism did similarly on youtube.
everyone wants le edgy leftism but cries about a guy dating a 19 year old
>>2818424The real question is: why is this unacceptable but platner is ok? Why are big meanie words too much but a guy directly protecting an american torture and murdercamp is fine?
>>2818557fat mike is the ethan klein of pop punk. just a really creepy dude. here's the completely non-regrettable jewish supremacist skinhead anthem he wrote for fuck knows what reason.
what a cunt. I fucking hate him.
>>2818591>why does /pol/ still pretend being a chud is le heckin counterculturalVictim complex. Ayone disagreeing with them means they are opressed and therefore the underdog.
>>2818581and what is he then? don't say "nazi" because there's no evidence for that, but him being a socdem is not just simply in what he said but what's logical for a man like him to do
>>2818614He is BTFOing reactionary third-worldists
HUGE DRAMA
BIG DRAMA
zizek be like shniff
haha
>>2818614damn dude fell off. If you eliminate his stupid accent and short bus cadence by just bulleting his points this is the exact same shit fashlibs like destiny and douglas murray bang on about:
>third world countries are fascist>black south africans are rapists>africa needs liberal feminism and liberal queer studies>the burkinabe government is homophobic>black south africans long for apartheid>you can't blame europeans for the dire state of colonial nations and the third worldtotally fucking washed bro. what conference is this where those international relations wonks are just sitting there like this is sophisticated or groundbreaking?
>>2818608you're actually so weak man it's unbelievable
>>2818576They won't go woke but I can see them becoming anti-authoritarians again
>>2818720you know what's fucking weak dude? every fucking record on his label. especially the debut albums because he signs trash.
>>2818720you know what else is weak, fat mike. after signing frenzal rhomb for an album, the fat fuck comes to straya to meet them. they guest DJ rage on a friday together, apparently by sunday they were jack of the bastard because they slammed his head into a bin and kicked the shit out of him.
it was in fat mike's sad clown and yuck kink stories era. rumour has it he spent the whole time with them insulting everyone and everything, talking about how much money he had while buying expensive spirits, and begging them to find him coke. they did not find any coke.
now, details are sketchy on this bit. apparently he had a sook, got paralytic and tried to grope a woman (possibly staff) at one of the punk bars. it's a tiny scene over here, and everyone's very nice. you don't wanna be known as the guys with a rapist mate. so it'd kind of explain why they punched on.
Joe Rogan:
>Billionaires are billionaires because they work 20 hours a day
So they only sleep 4 hours a night? But let's investigate this - here, Joe is assigning quantity to the returned value on labour, that if one works 20 hours a day, he should eventually make a billion dollars. If we round UP the median salary of the US to $70,000/y, and convert the gross into net payment, it would take over 14,000 years for this to add up to $1,000,000,000. If we triple the workload, so that 8 hours a day turns to 24 hours a day, it would still take over 4,000 years to make $1,000,000,000 - with your body being a pure vessel of endless labour. So, there's a slight problem in the labour theory of billion dollar values, and so it is necessary to assume that the billions which a person is worth, must come from the labour of others.
>>2818606>The real question is: why is this unacceptable but platner is ok?because platner is fight agency approved, the other lady isn't
>>2818606>The real question is: why is this unacceptable but platner is ok? because maine voters decided they didn't care?
>>2818614Indistinguishable from leftypol anti-third worldist rhetorics
>>2818606you need an answer? it's not obvious?
platner is contesting a repub senate seat in a state where the unions are heavy arms factories. galindo is contesting a primary in texas, which for all intents and purposes IS israel.
from their perspective if galindo smokes the dem zionist in the primaries she'll only choke when she needs to be elected by the biblemunching zionist public in the general. even worse, if they don't speak out against her their pimps at aipac and jstreet won't pay them.
platner could win and be ok, win and have a stroke like conehead, or lose: the dems are risking nothing but ther credibility (still nothing).
This is a Maureen Galindo thread now, hasanist-platnerist bots aren't welcome here.
>>2818891texas would never elect someone that talks about converting ice facility centers into zionist/pedophile re-conversion center. their two assigned senators are rabid zionist lovers, lmao.
it's stupid to say the least.
not even in Minnesota or California where the most radical anarchists live say this.
it's obviously a co-option campaign to de-mobilize people away from the democratic party.
she's an insane radlib.
>>2818900but counter-point, the 'appealing to the base democraps' are talking like fucking rethuglicans in texas.
>deport the inmigrants>I demand trump to be more warmonger with Iran. invade Cuba, etc.lmao.
such a clown country.
>>2818891>>2818900>>2818907I wouldn't worry about it. straight's still closed, israel is still doomed, trump is still definitely a chomo.
>>2818900I BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL WIN
ITS HER TURN
GO AWAY DEMORALIZER HA$ANCHUD, BERNIE (zionist) LOST!
>>2818900>someone that talks about converting ice facility centers into zionist/pedophile re-conversion centerI just saw the clip where she said that zionist billionaires should be in internment camps and that the pedos she put into the ice detention camps would mostly be jewish zionists while wearing hot pink barbie glasses, and honestly between this and NYT admitting that the IDF are rapist child molesting thugs this is shaping up to be a crazy week.
you son's of bitches I'm in. somebody do a maureen edit of this.
>>2818943>somebody do a maureen edit of this.you forgot to clarify it has to be her choking Haᛋᛋan tho
>>2818614i don't what he said or seen the video but
based zizek
>>2818614Not watching the video.
But I'll go ahead and dispense the usual defense of Zizek's politics, every time he comes out to say something ghastlier than before. To save us the time:
>You are just wrong, your lying ears are wrong and cannot grasp the nuance of this great philosopher's arguments for the European(NATO) Herrenvolk>I am mostly concerned with his academic work and you should let me derrail the discussion you see…>Zizek's academic work is blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla HEIL HITLER bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blaHEIL HITLER blablabla bla bla bla bla HEIL HITLER blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla HEIL HITLERbla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla HEIL HITLER bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla blablabla bla bla bla bla… >>2818961lies he said HEIL BORDIGA
>>2818961It's 4 minutes long and his argument is simple. You might as well engage with it instead of posting a wall of cope
>>2818962life is unfaaaairrr
>>2818946no, her choking greenblyatt
>>2819073can't she choke both?
>>2819028I saw an israeli left protest get smashed by the idf riot goons while they were chanting
from jerusalem to hebronand I deadass wished they'd get beaten harder. fuck israelis. if they want to stay after the collapse they can live in palestine.
>>2819057I pirated it, its way similar to disco. 7/10 so far.
>>2819057don't like the character art. why do the protags look like generic jrpg kpop pretty people? that's not in the spirit of DE
>>2819184>independent unionsyou'd think ultras would be able to get this basic thing right
DESTINY UNBANNED ON TWITCH
>>2819223hasan's gonna flip!!!
>>2819206fuck hbomb for this tbh, just a corpo sellout, doesn't wanna risk his infinite patreonbux huh.
>>2819264yeah right, keep telling yourself that. american 'self defense' laws are insane.
DESTINY HAS BEEN RE-PERMABANNED
>>2819272lmao wtf is goin on
looksmaxxing becomes pretty funny when you realize its just zoolander irl
>>2819317I watched zoolander for the first time recently and that was all I could think abour lol
>>2819263>>2819206Whatever a terminally online american sexually harrasses people there is a high chance of then responding "i'm autistic" or "as a rape victim" as a shield from backlash.
>>2819206Who are these people and why should we care?
>>2819317There's a resemblence but I think even more to Bret Easton Ellis' other novels like Glamorama.
>>2819441tragic. s'ing my zamn h
what should I say if I just don't give a shit about hasan piker?
>>2819438>@GoyEmpanada kek
>>2819453“Oh sorry, I don’t watch Twitch”
what is the issue with two consenting adults having a relationship and why does this discussion about Houdini feel targeted, so what if he's dating a 19 year old?
>>2819476It’s not criminal but it is embarrassing and it’s drama around an eceleb, which is what the internet was invented for
>>2819477embarrasing? how
>>2819490Why would anyone try to date someone out of their age range? What could you possibly get out of it when one party has vastly more life experience than the other?
>>2819498you live in a world where the average person is over the age of 60
maybe they both like obscure 80s new wave music, maybe they're both socialists, from what i read on siberia this all started because someone saw him with the chick at a BDSM club, that's a shared interest
>>2819498Even if someone is younger than you they'll have their own life experience which is different from yours. Plus sharing your own life experience can be rewarding in itself.
>>2819477the internet was invented to provide a distributed and fully redundant military communications network that could survive nuclear war.
>>2819263This poor girl is insanely traumatized and all you can think of is how to continue the fetishization of that predicament. Hbomber guy is 100% in the right, here. This girl needs help, not validation.
>>2819206hbomberguy can die, for all I care. he rallied for nazis in ukraine, doing fundraising events, and so on.
fucking pathetic sell out.
>>2819115>I pirated it, its way similar to disco. 7/10 so far.How is the dialogue? Does it have the clever references to lefty culture like the first did, or does it fall flat?
All the good writers are gone, so i am very suspicious.
I follow this lib (though, I'd say he's more like a realist), along other oil markets specialists, who have helped me to understand where the oil market is since 2017.
he has a hot take for the democratic report, the 'autopsy report'. give or take, it highlights the issues that the DNC faces.
00:00
>Now the Democratic Party has come out with an autopsy report on why they lost the 2024 election. I don't need to read that. They all say the exact same thing. All they do is highlight who they ignored during that particular election. As if it even matters, it's not like they know how to talk to anyone anyway. I mean, they could talk to everyone or ignore everyone. It really wouldn't make any difference. And this is why the Democrats lose. Let me explain this to you. If you ever noticed right-wing influencers, what are they talking about? What are the words they're using? What are they saying?
00:29
On chuddies influencers:
>You look at any right-wing influencer, they're simply repeating what Donald Trump says, or what Fox News says, or what the Republican Party says. They are amplifiers of the same overall message. I've never heard one have an original thought in my life, and that's actually good for Republicans.
00:45
On left-leaning democrats:
>What do left-wing influencers do when they talk about a subject they're all giving their own opinions on it and that's often quite disconnected from the opinions of Democratic politicians? What I'm saying is they're not amplifying the Democratic message. The reason they're not amplifying it is because it's terrible. Let me give you an example. I spent two years talking about the OPEC 2020 deal and the effect it had on gas prices under the Biden administration. Not a single Democrat [politician] brought it up one single time ever.
01:12
On the disconnection between dnc politicians and the influencers:
>The first time the OPEC 2020 deal was brought up was after Donald Trump had won election the second time. After it was far too late. Why didn't they [democratic politicians] bring it up? Well, they were focused on blaming oil companies for high gas prices. I'm sorry, are there oil companies on the ballot? Do they run for office?
01:28
>Another example, you know, a month or two ago I started talking about how the big beautiful tankers coming to the United States that was going to take our gasoline and diesel was going to make our gas prices go much higher than they normally would during a time of high oil prices. So Donald Trump said big beautiful tankers were coming and it was beautiful and I told you why it was horrible. And when I explained to you why it was horrible, you understood that that made Donald Trump an idiot for thinking it wasn't. What have you heard Democratic politicians say about the tankers coming?
01:57
>They say all these tankers are coming and oil companies are making record profits. So let me ask you again, how many oil companies are running for office in the midterms? You have all of these Republicans talking about how beautiful it is that all of these tankers are coming to get our gas and diesel, and you're talking about oil companies. And not talking about how unbelievably stupid it is for Republicans to think this is a good thing.
02:22
>And you wonder why you can't win an election. And what did the Republicans do in response to you focusing on oil companies again? They did the same thing. They're like, yeah, those oil companies are price gouging because you literally let them off the hook. And from my perspective, if you can't do something as basic as figuring out how to talk to people, then why in the world would I trust you to write policy and law that I would support that's actually good?
02:48
>And let's be honest, most of us feel like the country is literally on fire and burning around our feet. And where are the firemen? We can't find them since you canceled them for saying something that offended you. Do I even need to tell you what to do with that autopsy report? Or would that be too offensive too? Thanks!
tl;dr the democratic politicians are focused on blaming everyone else but trump, and never themselves. their content creators aren't unable to echochambering their narrative because they don't have one. and trump is effective because everyone follows him like a herd.
>>2819192wait until ultras hear that foreign policy is also a factor to weigh in.
>>2819637uhm actually the workers have no nation ☝️🤓
>>2819639nah, ultras be like:
>China exports to Israelalways ignoring that's private to private given that China since 2023 placed in Israel a high-risk (red category) zone and placed a formal ban on new Chinese investments and capital injections.
and China is more likely waiting for the ICJ to rule something, because China likes to abide to international laws.
>>2818961>HerrenvolkI could have sworn that was an israeli leather handbag brand. they had like herringbone inlay or some shit.
>>2818994nta; but zizek has become dugin for nato-diet-leftist.
>>2819646I've never interpreted him as a NATO defender. People mostly say that due to his critique of campism and some provocative thinkpieces. Not to dismiss that critique entirely, because if you look at his history there is some of that there, but the video anon linked doesn't contain that.
>>2819641>>2819637>>2819192China loves Israel and Israel loves China.
Sorry this hurts your feelings.
>>2819643You mean Herrington
>>2819641Poor Chynah, they're the real victims from Israel and ultraism with western characteristics uwu
>>2819751No electric Kaya?
the right wing retards raiding lpol are slowly becoming more obvious as the days come by.
>>2819644>no I don't support galindoThe only different between her and Platner is that Galindo hates zionism and hasn't killed children.
When will China push the socialist button?
>>2819779By 2050, they made it pretty clear!
>>2819779Never they love israel's money and stolen palestinian homes
>>2819206all i remember is this video's thumbnail.
i wouldn't be surprised if they were a /get/fag if there was zooshit in the vid.
>>2819206I don't know what either of these two are talking about but banning "lolicon" always comes with banning all kink stuff I actually wanna watch in porn and that justification of only caring about LE HECKIN CHILDREN has been used to ban media that has nothing to do with fetishes
>>2819804BE annihilated by that first tweet
>>2819577>this woman needs to be locked in a mental asylum because her fetishes offend meLol, go eat a bullet
>>2819806Not really all of an own if you're a westerner from an even more privileged country
>>2819819You're only speaking in meme talk and meme images, so perhaps don't throw stones from your glass house.
>>2819817Nothing inherently wrong with being a westerner but a lot wrong with being a western third worldist edgelord
>>2819822How is that a meme image? It’s literally an unedited page from Watchmen
>>2819822Opinion Discarded
>>2819824Okay you're only talking in meme speak and children's comics that are being used as memes like a functional adult lol
>>2819827Le opinion discarded
>>2819828Watchmen is the great American novel on the level of The Great Gatsby or Hucklebery Finn, it just happens to be in the comic book form
>>2819823You're using identity politics to make an argument, so expect to be confronted with identity politics when you're an Amerikkkan talking shit
>>2819831It's a children's comicbook
>>2819830>no meme speak>uses lele le
>>2819833How is that idpol? It's not idpol to say that being a black white nationalist is more pathetic than being a white one
>>2819834watchman is my fav children's comics
would give to all kids
>>2819831Comics are glorified kiddie cartoons and superheroes by definition are inseparable from fascist power fantasies. Especially in the case of Watchmen where the message is “genocide is good if it’s for world peace”, which is essentially NATO’s doctrine
>>2819835>Le no meme speak>Le uses lele le le
>>2819840That scene is so dumb. Moore is trying to make a point about how Dr Manhattan doesn't care about human life I guess but it's clear that he is upset by what is happening so why doesn't he stop the bullet other than that he's holding the idiot ball in order for the comedian to drop an epic diss on him?
>>2819840>It's not a children's book it has violence I'm a big boy!!!Lol
>>2819842Ozymandias is not a hero, there are no heros in that world, if you can’t read between the lines in Watchmen you’d blow your brains out reading Tolstoy
>>2819644>no I don't support galindo, i think she's a crank.She's a batty cat lady yes
>but no democrat should have never come out with a condemnation against galindo until they can get censors against randi fine.That's dumb because they need a majority in the House to do that, which they don't, while the primary is next week. The Democrats will probably lose that district anyways though to a Latinx military chud because of Republican redistricting.
>>2819848It’s not that Manhattan doesn’t care, it’s that he has no way to relate to other humans because he doesn’t see time linearly
>>2819777yeah but for hasan fans (zionists) someone saying there are jews in hollywood equals being some kind of nazi domestic terrorist and its way worse than anything platner has done and could ever do so hasan is forced to denounce her if he doesnt want to lose his audience
>>2819857That seems like bullshit though because why he is he trying to tell the comedian not to shoot her then? If he already knows what happens then why does he even bother. If you are gonna say "he has no choice because it's predetermined" then ok, why did he initially perform such a dumb action in the first place to let it get time looped or whatever.
>>2819861>I AM A BIG BIG BOY READING BUIG BOY CHILDREN'S COMIC BOOKS TAKE ME SERIOUSLY NOWlol
>>2819865Alan Moore has been the darling of “serious” literary circles since the 80s
>>2819867Bro he's obviously trolling you
>>2819850“Moral ambiguity” is cheap bullshit meant to plug reactionary anti-communist views but make them seem cool and rebellious. To the average American goycattle the “nuance” will completely miss them, as is intended
Also comparing a master of the literary world like Tolstoy to a Zionist hack like Alan Moore is like pretending gold and shit have the same value
>>2819869I’d love to see you cringe and wince reading Huck Finn
>>2819873I don’t read westoid slop so I wouldn’t have an opinion anyway
>>2819871>Posts some shit What a big boy you are
>>2819871Is this thing worth reading or just a shock meme?
>>2819877Stalin’s favorite book was A Christmas Carole, just letting you know
>>2819882They're too stupid to realise he's on their side
>>2819882Damn. Nazis also love water! We all need to drink bleach instead
>>2819885Yeah but before that is it decent I guess, I've enjoyed porn where people die before (tho I prefer when that doesn't happen ofc)
>>2819854>That's dumb because they need a majority in the House to do thatit's obvious he's talking about rallying for it, as proposed policy once they get the chance, a commitment, etc.
>>2819884Okay and? Even great men can have shit taste. It would certainly explain why he was suicidally forgiving of internal enemies though
>>2819891You're a pedophile?!
>>2819892What’s your favorite novel?
>>2819892And by the way Russian literature is western and Russia is a western country
>>2819896I don’t usually indulge in fiction but if I had to choose a favorite fictional book it would be How the Steel was Tempered
>>2819897That must be why their fellow western nations are so committed to the idea of genociding Russians along with Han Chinese who are also westerners by your logic
>>2819902Are Irish not western because they were targets of genocide?
>>2819903No Irish are westoids, they participated in the slave trade even after being its first victims because they simply saw the untermensch as animals
>>2819905Are Tutsis westerners? Are Hutus?
>>2819899>Makes you a pedophile to call my chidren'd comic a children's comic here is some of my pornI don't get your logic. Did reading porn 24/7 give you that revelation?
>>2819900Maybe you're retarded. Ever thought of that?
>>2819916>This children's comic is a children's comic<Nu Uh here is some porn I jerk off toLol, what
>>2819882>so apparently nazis are also on the crusade against Platner.His haters include a weird mix that runs from Bad Empanada-type leftists and Zionists and militant/extreme NAFO centrist types yeah. I've seen some Arab leftists getting blackpilled that he's a representative of the American left though considering his military background which is more understandable.
>>2819918yeah and i'm sure pigs can ascend to heaven also
>>2819935There are these leftychud types who shill child-murdering shitlibs and call everyone else crazy, only to hide behind us "blackpilled" arabs at the very end. You know. People like you.
>>2818360>As if BE isn't? The dude is a self-loathing whitoid who goes around taking up whatever cause is willing to rape him the hardest.He has a noble heart.
>>2819954would you rather have someone shit in your mouth, or have someone give you a piece of chocolate instead?
>>2819913but seriously, that made no fucking sense.
>>2819918>the right look calm whenthey get enraged, thou.
>>2819971what kills me about that cult is how in response to criticism of graham platner they will yell "YOU DON'T ALLOW REDEMPTION. YOU DON'T LET PEOPLE CHANGE." in defense of a guy who has
never expressed recognition much less regret for the crimes he committed. which is, you know, the first step towards redemption and change. but then even if he did do that, he would not be the best choice for a candidate in a senate race. AND, also, in addition to that, the forgiveness is not ours to give, right? every veteran war criminal such as himself oughta do charitable work in the middle east that materially helps the communities he helped destroy and it is up to them whether or not he is forgiven. of course, this in absence of a justice system willing to prosecute war criminals like him, which all USA active military and veterans are.
>>2819983no one in the us really cares about your grief circus, so no that'd be a terrible idea to be a senator, in fucking maine
>>2819989>>2819989>but building a politics around atonement and charity really doesn't have anything to do with socialism eitheragreed. i didn't say it did. however i'm pointing that that community is pushing that aspect nonetheless. you see? why are they putting themselves in that position? unforced error.
>>2819995>your grief circusyou are misreading my post! don't read in emotions and intentions that aren't there, friend. be sure to parse the proper context of the conversation. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
>>2819989Platner is even worse than a veteran, he is (may Allah forgive me for uttering this word) a Democrat. Fr, listen to the state of the discourse around this guy.
>He hasn't apologized! >He hasn't redeemed himself!>He hasn't repented!Idealist drivel, mfs sound like a bunch of judgemental housewives at a church bake sale. A politician should be assessed solely and exclusively based on their usefulness to the working class movement. You could say about Platner that his attitude is possibly an indicator that he still harbours imperialist sentiments. That's not an unreasonable assessment, but it's a separate issue from abstract moral questions of repentance and redemption. Frankly however, the fact that he's running as a Democrat his a far stronger indicator of this, and it should immediately disqualify him from receiving socialist support. If you're trying to determine whether to support a former soldier for office or accept them into your party, then you should he considering whether their commitment to the cause is sincere, and whether they bring something useful to the table. You shouldn't be basing your decision on whether or not you think they've sufficiently repented. If anything, redemption and repentance can only really happen
after a former reactionary agent has been allowed to put themselves at the disposal of socialism to prove their commitmemt and worth. When the Soviets put deserters into punishment battalions, the point was for them to redeem themselves through heroic action at the front. They didn't demand they somehow redeem themselves first, and only then allow them to return to the war. In Platner's case though, he immediately fails the test due to his current, existing political affiliations. The military stuff is just icing on a rotten liberal cake.
>>2819989>I think Platner at best has more in common with Bernie and AOCtrvke, he is AT BEST a lib zionist just like those other two and the army of influencers that try to portray them as something else are the same
>>2820002>you are misreading my post! don't read in emotions and intentions that aren't there, friend. be sure to parse the proper context of the conversation. 👍👍👍👍👍👍well it's an absurd thing to ask either way, if you ask me
Misogyny is cringe. Imagine thinking women are so important that you waste time and energy hating them.
>>2820048Women are just people and hell is other people
The fact that the anti-Platner hasbara spammers are shilling Galindo makes it even more obvious that she's a plant. Not just by the GOP (already proven, getting GOP superPAC support) but likely IDF as well.
>>2820076>she cares about american uniparty affiliationngmi
>>2820076>anti-Platner hasbara I refuse to believe an actual human wrote this, you must be a blue maga LLM, if an actual human wrote this it means we as a species have been 100% cattlefied and there is no hope left
>>2819960Well, you're shitting out of your mouth
>>2819206>receiving pleasure from executing civilians and engaging in extreme hyperviolence in GTA<I see no problem in this, it's obviously fantasy.>receiving pleasure from lolicon<Completely reprehensible. This is tantamount to real child abuse.None of you were around for Jack Thompson and it shows.
>>2820215can't you goon to drawings of children without spazzing out and trying to normalize this shit? i don't give a fuck about your fetishes and perversions as long as you don't shove that shit into my face. yet, here we are, and you deranged pervert are trying to tell me your appalling fetish is the same as a satiric video game
Remember that Simpsons episode where Marge wants to censor Itchy & Scratchy
>>2820076If you vote Dem at all don't bother calling yourself a leftist
>>2820230If you vote at all you’re legitimizing and reinforcing the system
>>2820048soft dainty hands typed this post
>>2820240dropping trvkes on joe's bald ass
>>2820240the yakubian is unable to comprehend this level of woke
>>2820240It makes perfect economic sense to import slaves when the Indigenous population can't really be enslaved for a number of reasons. The main one being that America was their homeland and they could easily escape and return to their own communities, or at least among culturally similar people in an environment they were familiar with and capable of surviving in. Africans by contrast had no connection to non-European peoples in America, no knowledge of their language or culture, and no experience surviving on that continent. They were far more dependent and easier to control when transplanted from their homes. This is also why the Assyrians and Babylonians practiced mass deportations, why the Romans stationed auxiliaries far from their homelands, etc. I also wonder what this guy thinks about still living Indigenous people. Like, where does he think they came from? What about all the archeological evidence of human habitation of the Americas going back tens of thousands of years before he says Africans arrived?
>>2819989do burgermunchers really give a fuck about veterans? there sure a lot of them smacked and cracked out on the streets.
>>2820240>history is his storyand his ass is dumbass.
gee, no wonder why joe rogan it's now only watched by boom booms.
>>2820284pretty sure it's an edit.
>>2819884>Stalin’s favorite book was A Christmas CaroleSource?
>>2820218Hey retard, the point is that violence is normalized and viewed as perfectly acceptable, even though the exact same arguments against lolicon can be (and have been) used against it. The only difference is that it offends western puritan moralfaggot sensibilities.
Gunning down brown kids for DECADES as a machine gunner and rejoining the military 5 times to do this then becoming a contractor doing it while saying how you love war and killing browns is less bad to libs than saying some mean stuff about Zionist
Hopeless
>>2820240>LISTEN UP WHITEY WHAT ABOUT MY STORYIt's just jewish propaganda to cover up their involvement in the slave trade. They are worried about a cross-racial antagonism because of the wars and the election rigging.
>>2820292No "moral-less" pedo, the argument is that it normalizes sexual objectification of children and the most wretched paraphilia disorder to exist.
>>2820215>>receiving pleasure from executing civilians and engaging in extreme hyper-violence in GTAHyper-violence in pop-culture brought by the bourgeois is part of the conditioning of people to become desensitized to violence. This however is actually good, unlike your pedoness it will only backfire since the bourgeois hope to condition people to be ready for their own warmongering, when in turn, it also conditions them for the violence to be had in the war for emancipation - the class war.
>>2820342Yes, and that argument is just as valid as saying violent videogames normalizes violence in society. Keep up, moralfaggot.
>>2820371A valid argument, going far beyond videogames and as far back as propaganda movies.
>>2820379It was not nearly as effective during the times of war posters, lest they used real graphic images and gore depicted. That type of shock value is an incubator for psychopathy.
>>2820379>>2820382Au contraire; we have the lowest rates of violent crime in history.
>>2820388I don't think I can trust the bourgeois states' own statistical reports, they are notorious for falsification and control of narrative.
Bourgeois peace in itself is objectively a violent crime, two reigns of terror - Mark Twain.
>>2820391“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
>>2820393Adding into comparison of dwindling down, the most that could be made (if statistics are to be believed) is a dwindling down, from a period of already apparent violence from mere decades ago.
>>2820394This "dwindling down" could be a result of seeking self-preservation in individualistic society, rather than a self-realization against depravity and cruelty. Since it would be entertaining to them to inflict it upon others - but not have to experience it themselves. It is fine for them to cheer for wars, as long as they are not within those wars.
houdini might be dating a teenager but at least he's anti-platner
>>2820502dude smokes meth with a florida juche cultist lol. they probably pimp too.
>>2820240>AFRICANS PEOPLE ALWAYS LIVED IN AMERICA>>2820312<ACTUALLY THIS BLACK GUY IS JUST TRYING TO COVER UP THAT IT WAS THE EURO JEWS WHO DID ALL THE SLAVE TRADE. ANGLO PROTS ARE INNOCENT!two schizos fighting
>>2820076>muh platner>muh galindoboil all reformists, boil all people who cheerlead and argue over their favorite bourgeois-political celebrities. build an independent working class party or die
>>2819869>“Moral ambiguity” is cheap bullshit meant to plug reactionary anti-communist views but make them seem cool and rebelliousfunny thing is dogmatists and zealots of any ideology, or religion, or what-have-you, think moral ambiguity targets them and them only. they can't stand a work of fiction not being a telegraphed morality play
>>2819188>don't like the character art. why do the protags look like generic jrpg kpop pretty people?because they fired the real artists and made slop
>>2819848Because at that moment he still somewhat holding on to his humanity, he hasn't caught up yet with just how far removed from everyone he has become, that's why he protests "don't", pretending to care by telling the comedian no, but not actually doing anything to help. He doesn't intervene and save the woman and her unborn child from the comedian, because he just doesn't think to
>>2819922I can't believe your overrating to children's comics
Children's comic and books like maggot baits should seen by kids openly, if he an rating for age to keeps more mature comic books like SpongeBob
>>2819889>>2819881it is snuff rape porn of a 1st year underage high schooler, so nah.
one thing i appreciate about houdini is that he's not rich, that dude is straight trailer trash. it's refreshing
>>2820646yeah im pretty tired of these "red jordan peterson" types
>>2820251Don't argue with the videobro, this man is completely insane lmao
>>2816821Saved. Epsteini. I bet they'll show this at his trial to show his character.
>>2819881It's shit but not for moralfag "hurrrr its snuff ceepee" reasons but because its tasteless misery porn no different from other garbage like oyasumi punpun
>>2820646>>2820714Whatever lets you justify soyfacing over fascist propaganda lol
>>2820770What's so remarkable about looking like a pedophilic discord moderator?
>>2820770isn't he getting deported?
>>2820775He is.
>>2820774Clashes with the whole transhuman chrome plated cosmic aryan aesthetic.
>>2820807>he's canadian lmao i should've guessed
>>2820839>why are israelis like this?because american leftists vote for zionists like aocia that coddle them and attack anti-zionists like maureen galindo that would put them in jail and re-education camps where they belong
>>2820755>your consumption bad mine good!your are a soyed out lifestylist with 0 revolutionary potential, you need to be locked up in a monastery with the rest of your menshevik kin so you cant bother proletarians with your woke scolding nonsense anymore
>>2820846mensheviks were marxists, these people are narodniks
>>2820850>these people are narodniksimpossible because narodniks despite their flaws still were revolutionary, red jordan petersons never will be revolutionary
>>2820846>I’m a mindless goyslop consoomer which means everyone else is!!!It’s really genuinely quite sad you’re so addicted to treats you can’t imagine using your time for anything more productive than soyfacing over Tard Wars or some other Pentagon slop
>>2820855Jordan Peterson took so many drugs that he had to be put in a medical coma to detox. He was anything but a nofun teetotaler.
I dare any apologist for neo-nazi “entertainment” to go to the DPRK or any other AES or anti-imperialist nation and ask the people there what they thought of the latest installment in the Glupp Shito franchise. At best you’ll be met with blank stares, because people in the imperial periphery actually have to work for a living and don’t have time for mindless Pentagon slop. And heaven help you if they DO recognize what you’re talking about…let’s just say you’ll be lucky to walk away without any broken bones
>>2820868I mean, Avengers Endgame made like 600 million in China for better or worse. Yeah it's slop but don't fool yourself into thinking people outside the west are magically above it all.
>>2820875Honestly just look at any recent Chinese action movie. They all look like something Micheal Bay would make.
>>2820875The moneychangers in the temple can claim whatever numbers they like, finance capital is theirs to manipulate as they please and has no value beyond Red Shield’s monopoly. I’ve talked to plenty of members of the Communist Party of China, since unlike you nazi scum I don’t consider people from the imperial periphery to be subhumans, and almost none of them had even heard of “the Avengers” when a comrade of mine accidentally brought it up and the one who did recognize it immediately denounced it as dime-a-dozen fourth Reich agitprop
>>2820877>>2820868BASED BASED BASED BASED BASEDDeath to Hollywood. Death to imperialism.
>>2820868>AESGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>2820873Anti-consumerism is the worst product of consumerism.
feels good being in the global south so I can pirate without any trouble all the hollywood classics the pentagon kindly funded for my pleasure, feels good not being a retarded yank obssesed with being productive so I can spend the entire weekend doing nothing but watching them and being a slob without guilt
>>2820903Noah Samsen owes me sexo
>>2820910i predict BE is gonna get baited into saying something insanely racist and he'll ruin noah's stream. he's been getting really unhinged lately. i won't be watching though.
>>2820910Idgaf about this. I only want to see Ethan KKKlein suffer
>>2820911How much did you pay him?
>>2820910this is boring tbh
>>2820898I thought that said Holomdor at first, yes Elon the Holomdor is fake and gay
>>2820921And ironically enough FD ended up looking more unhinged by comparing use of ZOGslave/ goyslave to -er N word, shouting at him to call him that made him look like a total drama queen. FD primary focus was tone policing.
>>2820958He is a hardline anti-zionist from what little I've seen of him, so he is based.
>>2820646(this was my only post in the long back and forth btw, I did not weigh in on whether comics were "good" or "bad" yet anon had to accuse me of "soyfacing" at "fascist propaganda" based on this post alone)
>>2820966First thing I noticed was the yummy bulge in his shorts
>>2820968I guess when he's behind bars the black people he sees will be pimping out.
Chud will be gimping out.
And when they're done with him he'll be limping out.
In the aftermath his followers will be wimping out.
>>2820966BE if he was br*t and less unhinged
>>2820984BE has worse genetics than kanervacle
>>2820877>>2820868You have a noble savage view of third world people.
>>2820868>AES or anti-imperialist nationBut these don't exist in the first place
>>2821027doesn't take much and that's messed up
cuz these people do a lot of simple shit to impress us
Bad empanada is such a faggot, I hope the US invades argentina and sends his faggot ass back to Australia
>>2821038yeah nah i'm out of this politics stuff. good luck with killing every human being.
>>2821045Holy fuck. You absolute imbecile. Just put a bullet in your brain as a favour to the rest of the planet.
>>2821043Assad lost
Maduro lost
Iran is losing
Russia is losing
China loves Israel and zionism
Sorry to ruin your ""fun"", tankkkkkkkkoid
>>2821064kill yourself american NAFO epsteinite
>>2821099You first infantile tankkkoid campist vatniKKKKK larper
>>2821130go get blown by a geran-2 drone your fucking epsteinite bandeirite hohol chud
>>2821136Go die in a trenchole to secure the profit$$$ and treat$$$ of your ch¥nese and vatnikkkkkk overlords, tankkkkkkiecel.
BE is losing his fucking mind.
>>2821099>>2821130>>2821136>>2821141Is this the way gentlemen ought to behave? Come on lads.
>>2820997No I’m just normal. Way to expose yourself as a freak completely disconnected from the real movement!
>>2820959i'm not gonna pretend it's not weird to call a black person an anything slave
>>2821164He is right about everything
>>2821183also typically the fascists calling for gaza activists to be beat are not punished
>>2821064i dont give a shit about any of that you retarded hasanoid, kamala still lost kek
>>2821183You're doing good work.
i hate persian women
>>2821296Lmao, Noah trying not to laugh here.
>>2821307
how do you know that
>>2820958>KavenackleKav is like the Jekyll to BE's Mr. Hyde lel
I can't fucking believe Hasan is a democrat. I became a communist because of him.
>>2821348I'm sorry bro. It could be worse, [spoiler]I listened to Agent Kochinski in my early political journey and I still cringe at the memory to this day[/spoiler]
Federal officials have served subpoenas to Marxist political influencer Hasan Piker and CodePink cofounder Susan Medea Benjamin as part of a wider investigation into whether U.S. organizations and leaders violated U.S. laws and sanctions in supporting Cuba's communist regime, Fox News Digital has learned
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/feds-subpoena-hasan-piker-medea-benjamin-over-cuba-trips>>2820910i'm starting to suspect that Bad Empanada has legit autism lol
>>2821359he's definitely socially inept
>>2821045>good luck with killing every human being.nou xxrickandmortibonglover420xx
i was juat stateing da faxs >>2821359Be glad it's Thunberg tism and not Musk tism
Was it a total BE win again?
>>2821462sort of
guy had zero arguments and tried to bait BE into saying the n-word which he didn't do
>>2821450banned from twitch rip bozo
>>2820910FD wants to be the victim so bad
>>2820910I've watched the whole "debate" now. BE is being a coward for hiding behind the "it's just a joke!" defense. instead he should have pointed out that Zionists occupy high positions of power in nearly every Western country. that is, Western governments are literally occupied by Zionists
what BE should also do is point out how when Nazis use ZOG, or "Zionist" in general, what they mean is Jews. so ZOG really means JOG. Nazis don't actually have a problem with Zionism for the most part. they love the notion of all Jews getting the fuck out of every country except Israel. they view Israel as a model ethnostate
>>2820910FD is so embarrassing, just screams jewish nigger in place of having to defend his own zionism
>>2821469it is very sus to call a black person an anything slave
>>2821738white people where slaves as well and BE isnt american
>>2821741that's not how it works
>>2821741Not to mention white slaves were brought to the Americas a full year before the first black even landed, and many blacks themselves were slave owners
>>2821747calling a black person a goyslave =/= calling them a slave
and yes it is how it works when your entire grift is IDpol and you have nothing materially to contribute other than civility politics to genociders
For what is worth BE is right and it's fucked up that there are still people playing hidden antisemitism and instantly equating anti-semitism with nazis, but BE is such an odious person and like the worst representative of a take that is highly controversial
>>2821757ZOG is a nazi word though. I mean I don't super care that much but it's kind of a bad look, just use other words to say the same thing.
>>2821755no it's not how it works you socially inept shut in. language isn't purely about semantics and grammar. this isn't math.
https://youtu.be/YjDPK7PPdbo?si=e5zyPuUsb2XBwYBbWhy are there so many fascists under the comment section of this video
>>2821758but also it's been widely recuperated in the midst of a genocide and the idea of government being captured by foreign powers is true* in most of the world. i just don't think it's a sensible priority to police anti-semitism at a particular moment where there is so much understandable animosity towards israel
*by americans
>>2821758>ZOG is a nazi word thoughWho cares though? Is that the automatic association people that don't know the origin of the word make?
There's tons of words in the online lexicon that come from these kinds of groups cuck, -oid, libtard, even the word zio was coined by david duke I believe. Does anyone that isn't a pearl clutching liberal give a fuck about where these terms originate? "bad look" to who?
>>2821761liberal analysis is stuck in the dogma of 1950s politics where calling someone the N word or using a slur to describe a jewish person puts you in the same camp as an american segregationist/moderate or nazi.
We're now in 2026 where black people gained the highest office of the united states and used it to bomb the middle east and jewish people are now committing a genocide.
Deeply unserious politics that is eternally spooked by a past no longer relevant.
>>2821758Nazis used lots of words, ZOG was never used during a genocide - big difference.
>>2821786FDs whole shitck is we should have just been nicer to the meany jews and they might stop the heckin genociderino
not how this works
>>2821758you are goyslave
>>2821788FD completely lost it after BE made a self-deprecating joke about both their hairlines. That was quite funny i can't lie.
>>2821782to anyone with a knowledge greater than the past 2 years?
BE was completely right and IDFsignifier los t the debate.
>>2821788also key thing being, BE isnt a nazi - why do nazis get free reign to appropriate leftism with gay abandon but we take one of there funny words and re-appropriate it and we're suddenly fucked?
eat shit FD its a joke
>>2821792do you think random people outside the internet know what ZOG is, let alone that it's an internet meme word invented by 4channers
>>2821795people only pretend to care about this shit because they'd rather get offended than do anything.
There is literally nothing inherently offensive about suggesting the government is occupied by zionists or people are slaves to the IOF.
If a nazi said it id cringe, if a communist said it id throw my fist up.
>>2821795was invented by neo nazis in the 80s, but yeah using neo nazi phraseology definitely has no negative effects whatsoever
>>2821797>okay yeah it's a word invented by neo nazis and is deeply connected to it, but you see it doesn't matter because it's true or something (zionism is not foreign in the USA, nor "occupying", anymore so than any other idea) >>2821802if a neo-nazi said 'sex' would you stop saying sex forever?
>>2821805neo nazis did not invent the word sex, did they? the word ZOG was invented by neo-nazis, and operates on a false implication
>>2821808neo-nazis didnt invent the concept of zionism or zionists occupying a government no
>>2821802>zionism is not foreign in the USA, nor "occupying", anymore so than any other ideaalso used by a leftist the meaning clearly means 'the government acts in zionists interests, we can demonstrate this thru lobbying and aid given to them'
>>2821809the word "zog" is built on a false implication, it is inherently a neo-nazi word for that reason, it's no different than saying "bix nood", since that too is also a neo nazi word built upon neo nazi foundations, the idea of a "zionist occupied government" means nothing if you have a basic understanding of zionism, but if you're a raving neo nazi it makes perfect sense since you're scapegoating the issues of the USA on a "foreign" ideology, therefore we need race war NOW and so on and so forth
>>2821813would we call american aid to turkey, TOG? because there is a great political interest in giving economic and military aid to turkey?
>>2821758>it's kind of a bad lookGuess we need to waste time fighting amongst ourselves now to find a more politically correct term to please the shitlibs
Children are dying, and faggots like you only care about optics so you can proudly boast about your allyship on normie social media. Shitlibs dismissing genocide because you used a no-no term is more than enough to tell me that they also side with the zionist murderers
>>2821818you realise when posting on social media 'optics' is almost all you can achieve in the first place?
>>2821816>>2821816The funny thing is most people considered 'zog' are white upper class Americans lmao, and nice try with trying to compare nix to that, but it doesn't chart as there is nothing inherently offensive in calling someone a zionist or suggesting they hold positions of influence in government. The zionists call themselves zionzsts! You are a faggot!
>>2821822never said you couldn't call them that, but that it's a false premise built by neo nazis to convey their ideology
>>2821820If you're not using social media to organize or threaten zog and their shabbos goyim, then you failed. Everything else is performative arts
>>2821826ok nazi, show us how much amazing organising you've done then
>>2821826and now you proved the point i'm trying to make exactly, thanks, little neo nazi! couldn't keep your hands in your pants for much longer, could ya?
>>2821828Any answer I give you doesn't excuse the time you wasted farming likes
>>2821831I'll rest my case, thanks
>>2821830ZOG means "zionist-occupied government", which we 100% are. Go split hairs back on bluesky
>>2821837yeah and it's a false premise, you're too busy though pushing in your neo nazism though, so thanks for revealing exactly where you came from, and what you are
>>2821840Were back to the 'you can't say words said by a nazi!' Toy throwing out of the pram obviously nonsense argument again, completely infantile
>>2821824It is not a false premises, are you suggesting the American upper class aren't zionists?
>>2821846*words invented by neo nazis, to serve neo nazism, based in a false premise which only makes sense to a neo nazi, hardly infantile if you ask me
>>2821847oh yeah, when are you gonna start describing pro-gulf support as AOG? or TOG? or SOG? or for those who support countries like india, IOG? because by this pissy definition, they'd all be true at once
>>2821849Which words did the nazi invent in 'zog' 🤣
>>2821851Sure why not, eog is a good one too (Epstein occupied government)
>>2821840>words what we used on a daily basis are suddenly bad when arranged in a certain way because fascists used it firstIf this shit is at the front of your mind instead of the genocide being committed by a zionist regime, then please kill yourself
>>2821852the combination itself? stop playing dumb you lobotomite
>>2821854i'm suggesting you shouldn't say it, because it makes you look like a neo nazi, or someone who is chronically addicted to using the internet, to a point of derangement
>>2821802>using neo nazi phraseology definitely has no negative effects whatsoeverPlease describe in detail the horrifically negative and extremely consequential effects saying ZOG on the internet has on society
>>2821857how about making people think anti zionism is a nazi movement?
>>2821856By your logic black people can't use the n word or gay people can't say faggot, shut up idiot lmao.
Redefining words when done by minority but tokenized 👍
Redefining word when its to do with Palestine 👎
>>2821857it makes you look deranged, invites neo nazis and various cranks to join alongside you, and gives your opponents even more ammunition against you? it takes 5 seconds to find out that ZOG was created by neo nazis for their specific ideological purposes, saying it opens you up to criticism that is entirely avoidable otherwise
>>2821859They already think that, next
>>2821862but we havent redefined it tho…
>>2821865doesn't mean you need to help them to do that.
>>2821862what the actual fuck are you talking about, lobotomite? no it isn't, it's a word entirely used to serve that one purpose, but go ahead and make yourself look like a neo nazi, isn't my problem
>>2821859> people think anti zionism is a nazi movement?and you think the anti-semitism police has nothing to do with this perception?
>>2821866The mere act of saying zog as a non-racist, communist or leftist who is pro Palestine but not anti Jewish is the redefinition to terms within our ideology.
>>2821864> invites neo nazis and various cranks to join alongside youlast i checked neo nazis were super huge on israel
>>2821868>you can't say the n word that's what the slave masters used to call us, nazis used that word!You to the members of N.W.A
>>2821870it isn't redefining things, you're just pretending it is because you said it, not the fact that it's a poisoned term you don't even have to use? no one's making you use it because it's right and correct
>>2821873and these neo nazis are?
>>2821874lobotomite
>>2821876>and these neo nazis are?every single one that uses israel as an example of they the US should be an ethnostate?
>>2821876They hate me because they are both wrong and a Jewish nigger
like richard spencer was super HUGE on israel in 2016 come on lol
>>2821878they prefer south africa or their favorite failed state, rhodesia to israel, it's merely them using it as an example of liberals being hypocritical
>>2821864>it makes you look derangedTo who? More pearl clutching libs? Big whoop, most of them already think you're insane if you think Palestinians are human beings who deserve to live
>invites neo nazisTo where? The movement? They won't like it there regardless of how much people use the word zog lmfao
>nd gives your opponents even more ammunition against you?God sheesh yeah when you put it like that we're truly FUCKED. God what if ziorats start accusing us of using the word zog? Then how will we recover???
>saying it opens you up to criticism that is entirely avoidable otherwiseWho gives a fuck? It's already one of the most criticized political positions out there, I really don't think this is make or break stuff dude
>>2821866I don't think it does, nor that you should care what people who think pro palestine is a nazi movement think
>>2821884>it's merely them using it as an example of liberals being hypocriticaland they're correct, it is an obvious contradiction, israel enjoys a special contradictory position in liberal rhetoric, which includes equating anti-semitism with nazis. which is why your tactic of doing more liberal hand-wringing is baffling to me
>>2821888yeah but probably unwittingly
>>2821889is it hand-wringing to say using a word created by neo nazis is idiotic and only makes you look deranged, and that it's a bad strategy?
>>2821894>>2821894Address the n word comparison you wont coward
>>2821898i won't because it's idiotic
Why does idpol put so much emphasis on who says what?
>>2821911because idealism
>>2821911i'm a liberal and i think we should cede a popular idea to the nazis entirely instead of using it as a stepping stone to build a coherent model of politics on people clearly disgusted by palestinian occupation and the gaza genocide, and in turn, completely confirm to the liberal stereotype nazis have crafted
>>2821911because who you are matters more than what you are doing in liberalism, its how you signal in and out groups.
>>2821916>palestinian occupationwoah, cool it with the anti-semitism bud
>>2821894i'm sorry you're absolutely right, nazis think liberals hold israel to an undo importance, and i think we should confirm that perspective by making saying ZOG tantamount to burning crosses, that should do it
GOW (goyslave occupied website)
>>2821925thanks, my favorite neo nazi
>>2821919if you want to make yourself look deranged, go at it, i'm just the guy suggesting you shouldn't
>>2821928The actual Nazis are the genocidal treatlerites in the Democrats and DSA, they even affirm Nazi social views of endorsing bourgeois sexuality!
>>2821928Nobody gaf except libs dude
another day, another kms
>>2821928>look derangedits you and people like IDF zognifier that look deranged
amerilards are so mindbroken by the jewish question on both sides and their white guilt drives them to unironically believe palestine will be saved if they say imply israel controls the U$ and not the other way around (throwing around nazi buzzwords while theyre at it)
>>2821960imagine being so retarded you think saying or not saying zog will save palestinians, while pearl clutching about it to boot
>>2821981im not the one pretending poasting will determine the fate of palestine lmao, just calling you a pseud mongoloid for saying explicitly neonazi bullshit like ZOG and trying to back it up with radlib reasoning, a more sensible position than spouting shit like idf hasbara or w/e out of nowhere i think
What do you think of IDF Signifier?
>>2822003>im not the one pretending poasting will determine the fate of palestine lmaoThat's because that's something you imagined to argue against lmfao, nobody itt was saying that retard. You're literally just seething about wrongspeak
>>2822029more likely jacob brunton whoever the fuck he is doesn't understand what "marxian socialism" is. what marx's critique of capitalism was or what the "socialist ideal" is.
OR thas a trvke?????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
>>2822043I remember liking this show way back when. Was it actually any good?
>>2822049it was zog (zombie occupied government)
kill me please
>>2822029socialism in one plantation
BadEmpanada vs FD Signifier debate:
https://youtu.be/GdbnmhYid_Q>>2822029Yeah. Read George Fitzhugh. Guy was more or less a Proudhonist with dixie characteristics. Saying his critique of capitalism is indistinguishable from marx is very dishonest though.
>>2822198>We treat the Abolitionists and Socialists as identical, because they are notoriously the same people, employing the same arguments and bent on the same schemes. Abolition is the first step in Socialism: the former proposes to abolish negro slavery, the latter all kinds of slavery – religion, government, marriage, families, property – nay, human nature itself. Yet the former contains the germ of the latter, and very soon ripens into it; Abolition is Socialism in its infancy.I don't see a socialist here.
>>2822255fakenews, xit doesn't use the bird anymore.
In this thread posters figured out this larping white nationalist twitter girl is photos stolen from an onlyfans girl
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/535719102/white-women-are-waking-up>>2822303A lot of them are seething and coping too
>>2822298the stupid shit people will do out of spite
>>2822309Better than shilling for war criminal platner who loved gunning down brown kids for decades
>>2820958>>2820966is that the tourist weapons cache in HCMC?
>>2822310ok. also better than kicking a dog. why are you mentioning this? stop shadow boxing. don't respond.
>>2822298>good things are comingwhat, is he finally getting paid for hosting an obvious psyop?
>mfwhow much a loser he has to be to host someone like who has 0 chance of winning the in the state of yeee-haw Ziotexas, and pretend that's a winning.
>>2822314Graham platner is a psyop war criminal
>>2822315uh-huh, and the punch line is?
>>2822311>is that the tourist weapons cache in HCMC?Probably. IIRC he spent some months in vietnam a few years ago.
>>2822314>>2822298>>2822309I think he's just trolling.
>>2820910IDF Signifier is a glutton for punishment. why does he think he claim to be rising above drama while inviting drama at every turn?
>>2822328I'm surprised he wasn't raped to death
>>2822298Why is this bad?
>>2822378because Ha$an doesn't approve that lady
Hasan is neither a marxist nor a bourgeois class traitor
Flávio Bolsonaro is currently tanking in the polls for the 2026 Brazilian election after an article on The Intercept revealed the film Dark Horse (2026) was financed by known fraudster Daniel Vorcaro.
The Intercept was the vehicle responsible for Vaza Jato, which exposed the lawfare against Lula and helped him get out ouf jail in 2019, so they might have saved his ass again.
Hasan met Gabor Maté and Aaron at a creator's convention in Vancouver last month. Yesterday he had a neutral Twitter exchange with Max Blumenthal.
Is the Hasan/Grayzone interview going to happen?
>>2822378The annoying part is people here shitting on candidates who can actually win while worshipping right-wing plants.
>>2822427>right-wing plants.but enough about AOCIA and Platner
>>2822450How come he looks like a soyjak?
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