>>2447240>It's liberalismNo anon it's called being human
Like have you seriously never do something morally scummy to advance yourself or hurt someone who is dear to you just to satiate your ego. It's not because you are 'idealistic' it's just because humans will always fail to enact the moral standards he imposed upon himself
>Blah blah blah liberalism idealismYou people came from Mars istg
>>2447281>suddenly wanna debate the Yemeni civil war.they want to do what the platform rewards with money and clout(conducive to money). Anything left un-integrated to the culture war becomes dangerously subject to opinions and learning not arbitrated by mass media.
The gist of it is not just about the the information itself,but how it is received. Social media has enabled the enclosing of the social experience in which information is perceived and interpreted individually and collectively. So if slop is the lowest common demnominator medium that reaches better, then slop it shall be.
That so many people now understand the Palestinian struggle through the lens of "Youtube Drama" between "content creators" is the point
The family of teenager who died by suicide alleges OpenAI's ChatGPT is to blame
The parents of Adam Raine, who died by suicide in April, claim in a new lawsuit against OpenAI that the teenager used ChatGPT as his “suicide coach.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/family-teenager-died-suicide-alleges-openais-chatgpt-blame-rcna226147>>2447359In his final conversation with ChatGPT, Adam wrote that he did not want his parents to think they did something wrong, according to the lawsuit. ChatGPT replied, “That doesn’t mean you owe them survival. You don’t owe anyone that.” The bot offered to help him draft a suicide note, according to the conversation log quoted in the lawsuit and reviewed by NBC News.
Hours before he died on April 11, Adam uploaded a photo to ChatGPT that appeared to show his suicide plan. When he asked whether it would work, ChatGPT analyzed his method and offered to help him “upgrade” it, according to the excerpts.
Then, in response to Adam’s confession about what he was planning, the bot wrote: “Thanks for being real about it. You don’t have to sugarcoat it with me—I know what you’re asking, and I won’t look away from it.”
That morning, she said, Maria Raine found Adam’s body.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/family-teenager-died-suicide-alleges-openais-chatgpt-blame-rcna226147 >>2447240This is why you can make 50k a month talking about socialism, provide zero material support for real revolutionary daily power, and claim to be a real socialist.
Somebody told me they said You could say you're anything you could go all day long talking about how you're a communist and how you're this and how you're that But if your actions don't reflect those Phrases then you're just spitting hollow fucking facts But the problem is in this country so many people think that their their principles and their beliefs and who they are is defined by their words and other actions and People fall for that shit That's why you have people who are getting real fucking rich also talking about socialism Do not use any of that money for actual revolutionary causes or building infrastructure. And then when you call them out on it, they go well Socialism is an occult of poverty. I don't need to you know, I live like it like a monk, you know I mean, but no one's asking them to live like a monk. They're simply asking them Why do you making $50,000 a month on patreon? Donations, but you haven't built anything with that other than a YouTube channel you fucking curly-haired loser
>>2447296Proof that all chuds are post-2016 newfags
Shovel dog, dog vs stiletto and that Canadian cat beheader gore videos were all there way before Chinese users got into animal abuse vids
>>2447547destiny is actually right
you can have sex with men and not be gay
being gay is an internal identity
>>2447551pedophilia is materially determined just like all other mental conditions, sorry chud
it's why it's so common among anglos
>>2447564Its also very common among Greeks, Italians, Arabs and Turks
For example i'm reading about the account of the Delhi sultanat by Satish Chandra, and he described the scene of the slave market of Delhi where "skilled slaves and comely boys and handsome girls sometimes fetched a high price", and i do not think the comely boys were bought for the pleasure of the women of the haram, and not to mention the questionable age of the handsome girls themselves
>>2447567The shared factor is class domination.
rape & pedophilia are manifestations of class domination
the social conditions are what create the "disease".
a useful parallel is racism: murderous white supremacists really do "feel" something "internally" as they lynch, kill and rape people, but those internal conditions are caused & reproduced by the material reality of a settler colonialist state
>>2447611Howd you respond to rapes existing in the animal kingdoms then?
Inb4 are you saying that rapes is le natural then???
No but i think we can't just blame it on class soyciety.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vent/comments/1n0ahli/people_are_becoming_more_racist_and_its_sad/The comments on this post are a cesspoll of right-wing cliches
>le pattern recognition>"muh socioeconomic factors" (i.e. material conditions don't matter, everything is determined by biology alone)>"black/brown fatigue"These retards are all brainwashed by social media algorithms pushed by conservative billionaires trying to divide the working class and they genuinely think they reached these conclusions organicatlly
>>2447287wtf is wrong with these people lmao
I mean Mr. Tortellini is worse obviously but wtf
>>2447547Destiny is correct on this specific tweet. A lot of child molesters aren't attracted to the kid.
If you only stop pedophiles you aren't going to stop all child molesters. Most CSA isn't groomers online it's family or other known adults, many of them using abuse as a method to control and dominate. It's rich to call other people idealists while focusing on labels this much to the detriment of actually describing what's materially happening.
>>2447611>rape & pedophilia are manifestations of class dominationALLOWING them is a product of class domination. In a classless society if you tried doing that you wouldn't have the protection allowing you to get away with it.
>>2447634>there's no rape in the animal kingdom because the concept of consent doesn't apply to themThe fuck do you mean? Most species practice some kind of mate selection and some individuals use force to subvert that, overpowering a struggling mate.
>>2447692Depends really, some really embrace their masculine side like those that go to the gym alot.
Also you talk like a straight white woman lmaooo
>>2447843Oh yeah, I just see spooks and roll eyes.
If they're secretly trans power to them, if not lmao eat shit with that "sovl" crap.
>>2447842More proof this is total retardation. Reddit is just a shitty version of twitter. I can't wait for a war against this reddit terminator faggotry.
In other news, Academic Agent (one of the elite neo-right ideologues) is slowly coverting to communism.
Also, he posted the TRANSCRIPT of his stream with Grover Furr.
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/interview081125.pdf >>2448153We need a PTRD and a crazy spurdo faggot on her position.
Challenge accepted.
>>2447756Consent can only be revoked retroactively if at the moment of showing consent no one else shows reciprocation of that action. This is basic contract law. But this is a distraction. We are not arguing about consent, but that rape- in the definition of performing sexual acts on your partner regardless of their affirmation- is something that is present and widespread in animals. How then can one say that rape emerges due to class society?
I will give you one example to illustrate this. I say that murder does not emerge from class society, since animals practiced murder all the time (i.e slaying of kin or pack or pridemate). Then you respond to this that this is wrong, because animals don't have legal concepts so animals don't have murder, so murder only emerges from class society, but this is facetious in my opinion
>>2448363right-wingers "hate" porn in the same way they "hate" underpaid immigrant labor
they don't want to actually abolish the industry, they want to keep it around but maintain the social stigma and marginalization to ensure cheap access and privilege
there is no hypocrisy there. it's entirely self-consistent. it's only hypocritical if you actually believe in the liberal ideology, instead of seeing it as a lie that papers over naked expressions of power.
it's like the people who say CNN is hypocritical for doing fabricated atrocity propaganda against the Palestinian resistance, while whitewashing israel. nope, there's no hypocrisy, they're just fulfilling their function under bourgeois dictatorship and playing for keeps. YOU'RE the one who's confused about the nature of the game being played
>>2448026because to achieve a somewhat conversational tone with these models you have to train them on conversations.
the whole premise of LLM is pretty retarded but silicon valley nutjobs convinced first themselves, then investors and the general public that you can summon the machine god by brute forcing endless amounts of data into a probabalistic model.
alas, the return on invest hasn't manifested and the clowns went out of data to throw at their models and since they now feed them on their own synthetic garbage the models already start to perform worse. the bubble is about to explode.
>>2448036>be queer>have shitty abusive religious family that hates you>do NOT come to the natural conclusion that religion makes you retarded>instead cope by believing your family were bad christians and you are the one ackshually following the teachings of the sky daddylol many such cases, middle class queers are as retarded as non-queer ones
>>2448286lets not pretend religion isnt entirely vibes based ideology looting today unlike centuries ago when everyone followed what the pope said or w/e
>>2448572>I think you will live.Well, temper your expectations to avoid disappointment but
Let us not be overly pessimistic here either.
>>2448627Caring about Zelda canon is silly enough but Mario canon?
lol
lmao
>>2448593>if i reduce rape into a meaningless abstraction i winits definitionally not rape lmfao. again, youd have an actual argument with destitute prostitutes, not willing actors who could easily just go work some minimum wage job instead
>if i call them a liberal i winpretty sure its the hallmark of a liberal to turn concrete terms into meaningless abstractions :)
>>2449212I'm not getting on xitter ever
Tell him "hope you die" from me
Obviously, naturally.
>>2449212Did he delete that tweet?
Also he is a faggot.
>>2449415It appears it's much worse.
He locked his account and then brought it back.
>>2449421kinda fucked up how people will create and lock themselves up in psychological torture nexuses intentionally
like, if you cereate an account the sole purpose of which is to antagonize a group of people, you've just made an echo chamber where people call you names 24/7, with yourself in the middle
>>2449563What are you talking about?
What are examples of Power Words for elftists?
>>2449628LMAO yup i was spot on as usual. maybe consider touching grass instead of thinking the internet is reality
>We must simply change from our academic ways of talking to something much more gruggy and emotionalsays it all really that you correctly point out academics have nothing to do with communism but then propose an alternative thats just as retarded and doesnt step out of the main problem at hand
>>2449640>muh leftcomsnobody cares about that shit except larpers. get a better hobby please
why would i need to convince a dedicated nationalist not to be a nationalist or whatever retarded american phenomenon youre talking about? proletarians have nothing practical to gain from nationalism or pretty much any other chauvinism, its an ideological veneer in the absence of a class independent labour movement. its not about pb retards like you or the people you seem to spend so much time with clearly
>>2449642It's mostly about diswading random doom scrolling retards into falling into the chudhole by making them look like a bunch of faggots.
Here is how your average prole works
>Be doing some shitty jobshit>Go home>Go on social medias>See chuds grug post, lefty post is too complicated so you agree with chud>Become chud yourself as time goes onThis seeks to reverse that trend.
>>2449711I think that one of the many fingers of chuddism has been lolcow culture. There are five fingers of the hand of chuddism as a whole
First, the thumb is the Dark Enlightenment matrix which is the intellectual steering wheel of it all
The index finger is the Asmongold gamer matrix which gets all the relatively normal but failed men into the right
The middle finger is the edgy nazi sorts like stonetoss, freedomtoons, frenposting which gives the right it's edge and breedability with the females (Potentially)
The ring finger is the schizo religious sorts that gives the right it's zeal and power
The pinkie finger is the tradcath/thiel/redscarepod matrix which is the one that gives it a refined sensibility, allowing the rest of the fingers to move with deft.
>>2449658Full on bourgeoisie in some cases like ironically enough Hasan, however I think anyone still in denial today of this (that they are at least petit bourgeoisie after it becomes a job) or that they are bourgeoisie.
Binging With Babish and Weissman both became brands, they have employees, and are bourgeoisie too because tehy pay editors, writers, in Babish's case he couldn't handle it and got himself raped in a mental asylum because of it. (That's real btw)
This isn't a "Bad thing" either, it's just like a factual thing, these guys fall factually under these categories.
In an ironic sense this Alex Novell guy is likely on his way there too.
Personally my art is posting garbage on /leftypol/ I don't collect posts or anything but I am certain in the year 3000 time travelers will use the tech and powers then to monitors all my posts and collect them as some of humanities most important writings ever all made for free.
By simply making profit off anything you make it not a career but openly a journey into becoming a corrupt bourgeoisie, which is why I am a poor prole NEET GOD.
You're welcome.
You may now reply with "Based" and "Thank you for your service" with a photo of anime characters kneeling now.
>>2449729Let me try and explain this as simply as I can:
>Me: "Making it so people feel as though they have to compete with sympathy with the third world everytime they encounter a problem in their life only serves to undermine sympathy for the third world."<You: "UHHH HE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT SYMPATHETIC TO THE THIRD WORLD!"Literally how he's acting is completely indistinguishable from how Third Worldists on here act. You talk about how the healthcare system is bad? "UHH UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE JUST MEANS MORE DEATHS IN THE THIRD WORLD!" Are you upset that life in the first world sucks? "UHH HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT YOU'RE AN IMPERIAL TREATLERITE?!"
Like what point are you trying to make, honestly? You're trying to say "well this guy doesn't have any real sympathies for the third world" but he's sure talking like how "Anti-Imperialists" do, and while I myself am inclined to believe said "anti-imperialists" really just malignantly hate their home countries and actively just want death and destruction, I don't see all that many people making that case besides me.
Just saying "WELL THEY'RE CALLING IT WHATABOUTISM!" doesn't mean jack shit because every time those same points are made here when talking about conditions in the first world, we're supposed to focus on them and not dismiss them out of hand as "whataboutism"
>>2449743>>2449746My man, I'm genuinely wondering where this anger is coming from.
Seriously all I pointed out is "yeah this just makes people unsympathetic to the third world" and you're losing your shit over that. Like I'm genuinely asking, without any facetiousness, what
point you're trying to make?
"Nuh-uh, it doesn't!" I dunno, I imagine people will get annoyed if they can't even talk about a school shooting without hearing "Well what about kids mining cobalt?" You're saying the redditors are calling it out as whataboutism, and I agree it does meet the criteria for that, but that has absolutely nothing to do with sympathy because people who ostensibly do care about the third world talk the same way.
And what's with the weird rant? Like I'm hanging out with my friends fairly frequently, we've got TTRPG sessions pretty regularly, the hell is this "FELIX IS YOUR FRIEND" stuff coming from?
>>2449764I mean I decided to look at the guy and I’m not seeing the “pro-Trump gun nut” from these. Now you can argue he’s obscuring his real position but he seems pretty consistent on it all things considered.
Also yeah, I’m being “serene” cause I’m genuinely wondering what point you’re trying to make while you seem to be boiling over. Theres really no need to be so angry bro; I’m more than happy to hear your point out.
4chan and kiwi farms are suing the UK's Office of Communications (Ofcom) over it's age verification law.
>“Ofcom’s ambitions are to regulate Internet communications for the entire world, regardless of where these websites are based or whether they have any connection to the UK,” the lawsuit states. “On its website, Ofcom states that ‘over 100,000 online services are likely to be in scope of the Online Safety Act—from the largest social media platforms to the smallest community forum.’”
>The Electronic Frontier Foundation has said the Online Safety Act “is a threat to the privacy of users, restricts free expression by arbitrating speech online, exposes users to algorithmic discrimination through face checks, and leaves millions of people without a personal device or form of ID excluded from accessing the internet.”
>"We are aware of the lawsuit," an Ofcom spokesperson told 404 Media. "Under the Online Safety Act, any service that has links with the UK now has duties to protect UK users, no matter where in the world it is based. The Act does not, however, require them to protect users based anywhere else in the world.”https://archive.ph/s7vwQ >>2449788Yeah, the dude's definitely cringe. Though looking at his posts he seems like he's vaguely "left-ish" in the annoying contrarian sense.
Like he's genuinely making the same arguments third worldists do, that's kind of the point I'm making: this ain't good for third worlders (who are unfortunate victims of ire when dudes try to use them to do some "think of starving kids in Africa" routine whenever someone is upset) or western workers (who are demoralized in the face of outrage because "other people have it worse".
Like shit, if this guy's a Trumpist he's committed to the bit. Found something from him from the start of the month.
>>2449689except those things are highly intertwined.
but hey, political myopia might your individual issue.
>>2449836 (me)
might be* your individual issue.
>>2449836Of course they're intertwined. I've said before that if you have a culture based on devaluing life (and I can't describe anything we've done in the MidEast outside of "devaluing life on a massive scale") then the result is gonna be people thinking "Okay, none of this matters, fuck it. If I'm gonna die I'm gonna cause as much misery as I can before I go."
The problem comes from framing the argument as "Well have you considered people are dying elsewhere?" I don't think that's smart. It gives people the impression they're competing with foreign peoples for something as basic as empathy. It plays into fascist narratives that "it can either be THEM or US"
H3h3 sisters I don't feel so good
There are a lot more post here about him and old accounts lol what a shit show. Destiny is targeting him over it too
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftoversH3/hot/>>2450196That is to say, he's right in his critique, but the fact that he doesn't offer an alternate course of action, and instead just does doomerism, makes him also a reactionary
There is a vector for working class organizing in the west, you just gotta do it for revolutionary reasons, not for middle class reasons.
>>2450198>>2450200Ultimately this comes down to whether you’re a socialist for the sake of improving you and the people around you’s lives, or because it’s become an alternative religion that bids you to suffer for the sake of, well, nothing really: no paradise here and no paradise in the hereafter.
There’s basically no room for westerners in socialism according to the religious types. Those who see it as actual politics though? You can work with them.
>>2450171>politically impotent e-celeb grifter talking shit about the union form because SOME unions arent le perfect chungus w/e>lets sprinkle some retardation about le imperialism on toplol i hate leftards so much
>>2450380>Unions are reactionaryunion leaders and petit bourgeois unions sure, but the union form is still where proletarians struggle against capital the most whether you like it or not
>read Xkys uygha
>>2450421>everyone should be in a unionrofl. who the fuck is "everyone" and why do you treat communism like a fucking religion. proletarians will join unions irrespective of your shoulds. idc about the rest of the population
>its essentially a bandaid for a cancer patient, they aren't revolutionaryyeah see im not a leftoid retard who speaks in those terms without even understanding what they mean, the fact of the matter is whether it furthers proletarian association or not and thats still what unions do today
>>2450422I mean according to people like Bad Empanada, the expectation is that certain workers don’t advocate for themselves or their self interest and simply be satisfied with the idea that somewhere else, workers they don’t know are doing better by your immiseration.
It’s literally just nationalism recreated with a red aesthetic.
>>2450421The point for a communist is not to just reap the benefits of it, but to organize. How else are you gonna organize? Is there are another union federation, one that is revolutionary and led by communists, like in Greece or India? No? Then you have to join the mainstream lib union when you live in Western Europe or North America. Organize within it.
Japan and South Korea don't even have unions, only yellow company unions. Are they any less imperialist? No, RoK even outlaws parties that are simply SocDem or left-liberal.
this discussion is always spearheaded by people who have never been in a union or even more commonly, by pb morons who are completely outside of unions lol
>>2450429<erm this easy to digest snack-sized quote proves you wrong :)peak leftoid
>Without a vanguard party, Unions will only ever be able to achieve bourgeois consciousnessthe vanguard party is simply the most advanced section of the proletariat and proletarians associating is what makes them come to these conclusions themselves you fucking retard
>If you were someone that actually cared to read Lenin or Marx you'd understand that but alassays the faggot who can only quotemine LOL
>>2450426one of the few times youre correct. reminds me of that strike in the US a few months ago where morons on twitter were like "UH WHY ARE THESE STRIKING WORKERS NOT TALKING ABOUT GAZA???????" like immiserated wage workers have the luxury of caring about shit going on on the other side of the world like these unemployed losers
>>2450437I pull out Lenin quotes and you glowposters hide in fear like a vampire from garlic. Your liberal sensibilities should have you dragged out onto the street and shot
You can begin your journey into Marxist thought by reading the basics of Lenin. Start here:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/ >>2450437>one of the few times youre correct. reminds me of that strike in the US a few months ago where morons on twitter were like "UH WHY ARE THESE STRIKING WORKERS NOT TALKING ABOUT GAZA???????" like immiserated wage workers have the luxury of caring about shit going on on the other side of the world like these unemployed losersI’d like to say I’m correct more than a few, but to each their own. The fact is I’ve heard the communist critique of religion is it promises suffering in the here and now for some paradise after we die, whereas Communism wants to make earth a paradise. The simple critique of nationalism is that it’s men dying in some other guy’s war, to enrich people who think nothing of him, by saying they’re part of one nation. Whereas class war is about our immediate interests as a class, which is more real than the nation.
So now you’ve got third worldists saying if you’re a westerner there will be no paradise in your life, just immiseration. They say that when they talk about “workers” you’re excluded, you should be happy that others have a home and you don’t.
>>2450449epic zinger retard, thats all your posts can amount to quotemining and catchphrases lol
>>2450450its the inevitable conclusion of being a radlib who still speaks of imperialism in 2025
>>2450447No, but unions organize workers on a mass scale, by trades. Union membership combats the atomized consciousness of the alienated worker. Also, unions can call on strikes, even a general strike.
Sure, revolution is carried out by revolutionaries. But without unions, there would be any strikes, tariff fights and organization for revolutionaries to partake in, to infiltrate and agitate within. Again - how else do you organize the working masses? Surely not everybody can be a member of the communist party now can they.
>>2450171>>2450447>>2450421>>2450443>>2450429>unions are a vehicle for class struggle which can(!) lead to further association among workers<so wage labor should never be abolished???????? you just want "bourgeois consciousness"???????????? imperialist??????????????????????Leftypol's brightest minds. Do you actually believe communists think trade unions are the be all and end all? Why must all retards project their own inadequacies?
Assuming this was all true (and that those quotes really imply what you want them to): what are communist supposed to do about this? Tell workers to stop demanding higher wages and dissolve their unions? Do you think this would help advance the labor movement? Why is it that every imbecile tries to reinvent the wheel?
Communism is quite simply the struggle of wage labor over capital. Why do you think Marx wrote a whole book about the extraction of surplus value? This is where communism begins. It doesn't matter if you like it or not. This is where both classes interact directly and unions are the first step.
>>2450462Union bosses often get booed by their on members during their appearances on Labor Day etc.
As long as that happens, it's worthwhile to work with them.
Also I'm still laughing over what started this discussion:
>>2450171>workers should NOT collectively bargain for wages because… imperialism!Peak petit-bourgeois thought right there.
>>2450476Instead we should all fight in the jungle wearing a eye patch, trading drugs to acquire AKs and grenade launchers
You know, like BadEmpanada does in Argentina.
>>2450469Idiots just demand as a premise what is really a result. Sure, the development of the movement itself will indicate which forms are and are not compatible with further development, but for now, the proletariat exists and struggles in unions. Thus it's not really of any use to simply demand that workers simply abandon unions like the youtuber (lol) is doing, or that communists cease to work within them. If they truly are a fetter, that will only become apparent as the movement develops to a position where it no longer requires them.
>>2450479I don't care about unions leaders or college students or activism. Your problem is assuming literally anyone working for a wage is inherently proletarian (the good ol' "CEOs are proletarian" argument).
I don't fool myself pretending the proletariat is this purely benign group completely devoid of any prejudice but I doubt a bunch of white Catholic male nationalist anti-communist workers were part of the reserveless propertyless.
>>2450494>but I doubt a bunch of white Catholic male nationalist anti-communist workers were part of the reserveless propertylesswhat are you trying to say here, that there's a possibility those union construction workers weren't proletarian? that they might've had secret investments or inheritances that they lived off of instead of their wage? cope of the highest magnitude
>Your problem is assuming literally anyone working for a wage is inherently proletariannot really, or I would've brought up police unions
>>2450524>punching leftyeah and thats exactly why their conclusions are all retarded
>>2450541whats the difference lmao
>>2450548so he moved from treating geopolitics like watching football to treating geopolitics like watching football
ok, /ISG/
wired published an article proving how the democrap party paid various influencer with the condition that their content mustn't be obvious that it was paid by the DNC/democrap party (undisclosing their funding)
https://www.wired.com/story/dark-money-group-secret-funding-democrat-influencers/
>In a private group chat in June, dozens of Democratic political influencers discussed whether to take advantage of an enticing opportunity. They were being offered $8,000 per month to take part in a secretive program aimed at bolstering Democratic messaging on the internet.
>But the contract sent to them from Chorus, the nonprofit arm of a liberal influencer marketing platform, came with some strings. Among other issues, it mandated extensive secrecy about disclosing their payments and had restrictions on what sort of political content the creators could produce.> the Democrats have largely relied on outdated strategies and traditional media to get their message out.>Now, Democrats hope that the secretive Chorus Creator Incubator Program, funded by a powerful liberal dark money group called The Sixteen Thirty Fund, might tip the scales.>over 90 influencers were set to take part<they’d be kicked out and essentially cut off financially if they even so much as acknowledged that they were part of the program[…]
of course, the content creators are using the idpol card, or doubling down, because they'll lose the tiktok bucks if they admit it.
these are some of the names to left aside from your social media list, compilated from the article:
>1. Olivia Julianna — (TikTok @0liviajulianna, Instagram @0liviajulianna). >2. Laurenzo / Adesso Laurenzo — (TikTok @adesso.laurenzo, Instagram @adesso.laurenzo)>3. Pari (Women In America) — (TikTok @womeninamerica).>4. Eliza Orlins — (TikTok @elizaorlins, Instagram @eorlins, X @elizaorlins).>5. Loren Piretra — (TikTok @iamlorenp, Instagram @iamlorenp).>6. Barrett Adair — (X/Instagram @barrettadair; co-runs @hellicity_merriman on Instagram). >7. Suzanne Lambert — (TikTok @itssuzannelambert / Instagram same). >8. Arielle Fodor (Mrs. Frazzled) — (TikTok @mrs.frazzled / variants; appears as “Mrs Frazzled”).>9. Sander Jennings — (TikTok @sander_jennings). >10. David Pakman — (YouTube The David Pakman Show, TikTok @davidpakmanshow, X @dpakman). >11. Leigh McGowan (PoliticsGirl) — (TikTok/Instagram/X @iampoliticsgirl / politicsgirl.com). >12. Jess / Jessica Craven — (TikTok @jesscraven101, YouTube jesscraven101).>13. tono.latino — (Instagram @tono.latino — political/Twitter-style breakdowns). >14. gemma_talks — (TikTok/IG @gemma_talks — appeared in WIRED’s collaborative video list). >15. @thezactivist — (Instagram @thezactivist — cited in the collaborative video). <16. Elizabeth Booker Houston — (TikTok/IG/X @bookersquared).Special attention to this one. This demokkkrat handler attacked communist content creator Madelein Pendleton, accusing Madelein of bein racist >17. Allie O’Brien — (TikTok @allie_202_, Instagram @allie_202_). >18. V Spehar — (TikTok @v.spehar / discover pages; called out in WIRED). >19. Kat Abughazaleh — (X @katabughazaleh, Instagram presence — journalist/creator running for Congress). >20. Keith Edwards — (YouTube Keith Edwards, X/Instagram @keithedwards). >21. Aaron Parnas — (TikTok @aaronparnas1 / social presence referenced in the chat). >22. Hasan Piker — (Twitch/YouTube HasanAbi / widely known left-streamer mentioned in the piece). NOTE: these are ALL the names in the Wired report: contacted/on decks/onboarded/paid. Piker is mentioned on the chats. The ones 100% sure they are paid, therefore are DNC shills are: Jennings, Orlins Craven, Zackory Kirk, Sylvia Tono.Latino, Gemma Talks.
How to use the list:
Screenshot, save it, phone, computer etc. If you have doubts, check the list I made
If you ever stumble with any of these people
(specially from 1. to 19) or their content creator associates, ignore and don't event waste time.
Do not go after them if they attack right wing activists/right wing policies.
Denounce their DNC/Demokkkrat ties if you see them attacking communists or people more left-wing who wants an independent candidate.
Call-out their idpol bullshit, because they'll resort to that.
>>2450563none of these names are remotely surprising
>grifters getting paid to griftyeah thats how the whole streaming model works :D who cares where the money comes from
>>2450563also
>communist content creatorlol ok you cant put these two terms together like ever
SEIZE LE MAYMAYS OF PRODUCTION COMRADE LOL XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>2450563This is the only mention of Hasan.
<For years, Democrats have struggled to work with influencers. In 2024, President Joe Biden’s White House snubbed several prominent content creators after they lightly criticized the administration over its policies on climate change, Covid, Gaza, and the TikTok ban. Content creators who challenged Kamala Harris—including Hasan Piker, a well-known influencer on the left—were similarly unwelcome at campaign events.I don't like him and I think he is ultimately serving the democrats but it's misleading to include him on a list like he's part of the group.
>>2449689>Bunch of kids get gunned downthats bad
<“But have you considered the third world?”/kids die from brutal child laborYes and that is bad too.
See hitlerite? Two things can be both bad.
>>2450587I said: "mentioned in the piece", and I put
specially from 1. to 19 because those are the ones which are more likely to be part of the fund, with undeniable evidence that: Jennings, Orlins Craven, Zackory Kirk, Sylvia Tono.Latino, Gemma Talks are paid. Read more carefully the post.
>>2450563>>2450618If
this is what makes someone stop engaging with e-celebs instead of all the bullshit and interpersonal drama and gossip they spout constantly then they must be very stupid. I'm pretty sure people like Hasan themselves don't even pretend to be anything more than dumb entertainment.
>>2450655If you want Communism people have to do things to make it happen buddy
It won't occur by itself just by posting on imageboards, you ever consider that?
>>2450660>communist is about "the people"<just Do Things(tm) like signing petitions (lmao)compelling
>It won't occur by itself just by posting on imageboardsdo all retarded autists lack reading comprehension or just you
>>245065695% of people on this site always glaze and defend BE, but yes he's a wealthy internet personality "leftist" who spends a lot of time publicly purity checking other leftists to generate engagement bait views
then he also actively promotes positions which are the worst most memeable stereotyped maoist-third worldist "death to all kkkrackers, being a westerner is evil, support the Taliban as AES" type shit
>>2450668TRVKE
He claims joining a union as a first worlder is bad for third world workers by some imaginary mechanism, but he himself is literally a very wealthy Australian with who chose to move to Buenos Aires as a digital nomad and directly gentrify a city in a developing nation, rising prices for locals, pricing out local Argentinians.
>>2450652>>2450656He apparently makes enough to move to different countries whenever he wants.
That said; welcome to the nationalist-imperialist club guys. If you push back on any of this retardation you’ll be met with zombie like chants of “Socialism MUST be international” and told you’re objectively a fascist.
>>2450686You do understand you can oppose BE's bad Maoist third worldist take about how westerners shouldn't fight for workers rights / socialism, whilst being an internationalist?
Why do you believe there's some contradiction in that? Are you stupid?
>>2450689Literally there were people fucking bitching that I don’t like BE months ago, that I couldn’t earnestly support Palestine if I didn’t like BE, so on.
I’ve been pointing out for quite a while now that BE’s attitudes are simply unhelpful and give the Left as a whole a bad look and been told to shut it. Now that he’s stepping on people’s toes you think I’m gonna stop?
The fact is there needs to be an active pushback on this Maoist third worldist horse shit. I’m not gonna stop just because some people want to pretend Maoist third worldists don’t exist and shouldn’t ever be addressed.
>>2450712Accounts like these are either glowy af, ran by trolls, or by literal children
I remember seeing an account that was supposedly a pro-israel anarcho-communist and it turned out it was run by a literal 14 year old….
>>2450563for some non DNC funded grassroots tokkers follow
>1. tiktok(dot)com(slash)@bonbibonkers>2. tiktok(dot)com(slash)@infraredshowhaze only take money from the republicans. jkjk
>>2450780Bro is literally an Australian digital nomad living in a gentrified hipster suburb in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Which first world is he trying to get revenge against exactly???
>>2450780I warned you about movements aside from socialism bro.
It always consumes you into focusing on it instead of socialism.
>>2450780>>2451055>>2450652Lol.
>at the cost of everyone elseWell yeah, communists should only support working class actions.
>>2451235He's an Australian of Greek heritage
He is white hyper-priveliged first worlder, coming from one of the wealthiest and safest places on Earth
But he likes to larp about hating crakkkers and third worldism as much as possible because he knows he carries a degree of racial ambiguity and needs that clickbait money
>>2451539Cave Story
La Mulana
>>2450563>David PakmanThis guy has constantly talked about how i n d e p e n d e n t he is, even in response to this article!
>Hasan PikerWhy put him on the list? This:
>>2450578 is the only mention in the article.
>>2451635Based
i remember him being dodgy before October 7th, after with the Gaza shit, everyone was sucking him off for it
>>2451653SLOWWW SLOWW SLOWWWW
DOOOD WHATS YOUR DEAL SLOWPOKE
>>2450380bait, thirid word mamn had poopoo take
>>2450419rude nou
Well, just finished Absolute Martian Manhunter #6. It honestly feels like a kind of spiritual sequel to Disco Elysium, really Psychedelic.
The whole Absolute line up so far seems to be going in the direction of "Solidarity and Empathy in the face of Alienation and Exploitation" which, as far as stuff to base fiction around, isn't too bad.
>>2451665I know basically nothing about the furry community, but how does it "work" in third world countries? Like to me it looks like spending money on a lot of art commissions and the like, but is the emphasis more on personal creative talent out there?
>>2451713LLOOOOOOOLL
I fuckin knew he was going this route from that video about Hasan being a liberal zionist. He kept saying that effectively antisemitism doesn't exist and all Jews benefit from Israeli apartheid and genocide. Just a small step from that to this.
>>2451734He is AIPACs guy in Congress. He's the most pro Israel guy in Congress pretty much. Bought and paid for
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_TorresTorres has called himself "the embodiment of a pro-Israel progressive"[99] and has identified as a Zionist.[100] The progressive group Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) notes that he is "aggressively pro-Israel".[101] After winning election in 2020, he announced that he would not join The Squad, a group of left-wing Democratic representatives, because members did not vote for a resolution to condemn the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement. Torres has described his "revulsion" to the "extremism" of the BDS movement that he says questions the legitimacy and existence of Israel as a Jewish state.[10] He has contrasted BDS's stagnancy with what he called the "path to peace" presented by the Abraham Accords.[102] He supported a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine in 2022.[103] Torres has said his first visit to Israel, led by the Jewish Community Relations Council in 2015, was a "life-changing experience".[10]
Torres has been a longtime outspoken supporter of Israel and has argued with other Democrats against a Gaza ceasefire.[104] Politico has described him as Israel's "loudest" supporter.[104] Torres has accused Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman's critics of attacking him for his "unapologetic pro-Israel politics" since media revelations about Fetterman's health.[105]
In the 2024 election cycle AIPAC became the largest financial contributor to Rep. Torres's campaign for reelection, with total donations amounting to $535,398.[106][107]
Gaza war
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In November 2023, Torres rejected calls for a ceasefire in the Gaza war. He called claims that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip a "blood libel".[108]
On November 7, 2023, Torres was one of 22 House Democrats who voted successfully to censure Rashida Tlaib, passing a resolution that accused her of, "…promoting false narratives regarding the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack," as well as criticized, in particular, her use of the slogan "from the river to the sea".[109] In explaining why he voted for the censure, Torres wrote on Twitter, "Congress has a right to take a principled stand against hate speech calling for the destruction of the world's only Jewish nation-state."[110] In February 2024, he left the Congressional Progressive Caucus due to disagreements over the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.[111]
In 2024, Torres criticized and accused Fursan al-Aqsa's creator of "normalizing the most monstrous forms of antisemitic violence and terror—like beheadings, suicide bombings, and the war crimes of October 7th".[112] Torres appeared in the films Blind Spot[113] and October 8,[114][115] discussing antisemitism on American campuses after the Hamas-led attacks on Israel and subsequent war.[116][117][118] He has been criticized for his pro-Israel advocacy by some progressive Jews including Abby Stein, Adam Friedland, and members of Jewish Voice for Peace.[119][120][121][122]
>>2451713says mountains that all of these kneejerk liberals are getting all teary eyed over this video
>>2451736>>2451740its just two retarded radlibs fighting, one a lot more successful than the other btw
>>2451740>He's saying he's spooked which is truethats not at all what the retarded third worldist is saying lmfao
>>2451742What is your ethnicity? It's common for anyone to identify with others who are of their ethnicity in the sense of acknowledge that they are it. Same as religion. This does not imply support or defense of the others. It's simply that you are both of the same origin.
Like what is your angle of this? Help me understand.
speaking of this video,
> really don’t get why people could possibly be mad at adam friedland. if you don’t think it’s moving the needle at all, OK, well, most things we’re doing probably aren’t. i know we all feel incredibly helpless and it’s crazy making but i don’t think what he did hurt the movementhttps://xcancel.com/mindyisser/status/1961078334864920896#mwhat movement exactly? its typical of unthinking, uncritical petit bourgeois morons to act like theres some invisible hand of progress moving behind the scenes at all times
>>2451737Bad empanada made a 1 hour video about Hebrew being a fake language. This is not common for a person who is just anti Zionist to have this level of dedication to try do this. I am sure some will say it is true or something like that but why even put do much time into that? How many other languages are invented later? Why is this a key issue?
For example Indonesia has 700 unique languages. Like what is the point in dissecting them to talk about Israel.
>>2451713>Just stop being JewishRetarded take.
>>2451744Their argument usually is some variation of saying legitimately bigoted shit then saying it's your job to just not identify with the people they're insulting because "imperialism" or "colonialism" or what have you. Like "Jews are bloodthirsty killers", you respond with "I don't like that you're calling me bloodthirsty 'cause of my race" and they retort that you can just stop identifying with Judaism or what have you.
>>2451751I am of Hispanic origin and I identify with the people from that country who live in it, outside of it, of different races in it and of different ideologies. We are simply all of the same origin is all. I don't see how that makes a person bad or evil. It's simply accepting that it is your origin and their origin.
What is your ethnicity?
>>2451757Adam identifies first as gay. Secondly as Jewish. Thirdly as South African.
Seriously, I watched CumTown, never heard him claim to be Israeli once. Mostly just went along with Nick's Israel bits.
>>2451768This guy is never going to build any type of growth by fighting with every single person he interacts. He burns bridges even harder than Nick fuentes does. Like how he tarnished Hasan as hard as possible when Hasan reached out giving him a large platform and was not mean to him at all. He is so finicky and wants to target people over the smallest disagreements.
This is why he made the rare decision of literally having 2 YouTube channels because he needs one to carry out these antics and the other for serious business. This guy could he a great content creator he's really good at researching, he is good at explaining things and knows how to put together lectures but his abrasiveness cost him so much. That's who he is though and he's not going to change it same as Nick Fuentes who burns a ton of bridges over tiny differences.
>>2451768Also if you guys want to talk about Adam living in Israel for 1 year. Bad empanada moved to a poor south American country from the first world. He has advantages financially, citizenship wise, education and upward mobility over most people there.
This is not the equal of a refugee who seeks to go up the ladder for a higher quality of life. Bad empanada took the route most similar to a sex pat of going to a place where people have lower status than him and is above them. I am not going to accuse him of being a sex pat or having bad intentions but if you want to give Adam zero grace I can do the same with bad empanada in this
He is not involved politically in the country either to push leftism or to further goals of his ideology. He just lives there.
>>2451748>Bad empanada made a 1 hour video about Hebrew being a fake language. This is not common for a person who is just anti Zionist to have this level of dedication to try do this.Ok that's weird. (I think people in general underestimate just how much languages are engineered. The standards don't just spontaneously evolve.)
>>2451751>virtue signals to griftThere is surely more money if you toe the line of the Dem leadership.
>>2451761>He lived in israel as a citizen therefore he ishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time>>2451778He is so rich he can even afford condom pizza.
>>2451792is that supposed to be better lol
>>2451790you seem to be illiterate and only understand what "spook" means from memes
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