>>2606510real talk, should robot sex be shunned after the revolution or nah? ignoring all the ethical dilemmas about slavery i mean. every time i see some ugly chick/dude post about how AI bfs/gfs are gonna own the other side of the gender war i roll my eyes. humanism should stressed in every aspect of life.
at the same time id kill someone if it meant monika would be real.
>>2606688>humanism should stressed in every aspect of lifereal life doesnt care about your philosophical frameworks
>>2606688Robot sex should be stressed above anything else
>>2606688Robot sex dolls are like flying cars: some sci-fi trope that is cool in movies and books but in real life would be horribly impractical and expensive. Just stick to escorts or camgirls if you want sex but you're too shy to get it the normal way.
hasan is still on that epstein shit. like jesus how many times can you regurgitate this shit. the news is that the elites are pedophiles. yeah no shit whoopdie fuckin do
>>2606760What if you're too shy for escorts and camgirls?
In a socialist country, would prostitution still exist?
>>2606760>expensive.That's what debt financing is for.
>stick to escorts or camgirlsSo you want to encourage human sexploitation instead of just making a more realistic fleshlight?
>>2606949no
>>2606970
shit you found me
>>2606760>horribly impractical and expensivelmao men already have no issue penetrating a bunch of squishy plastic in a tube or blowup dolls
>>2606949why are prostitutes always left out of "From each according to his ability"? it sucks, but you gotta be realistic
80% of sex workers do it purely out of necessity. 15% do it just because they make better money compared to a normal career, despite said careers being available. then theres a remaining 5% who are legitimate sex freaks and love it.
after all the conditions have been addressed, objectively speaking theres still gonna be a number of promiscuous girls who ask for gifts/cash in exchange for what they already do for fun. as long as its not encouraged, cant say i care too much about locking them up.
>>2607022when is he going to meet netanyahu?
>>2607022fell for it again award dot joint photographic experts group
>>2607102new vegas clears morrowind
>>2607106and they shoved most of the humor into an optional perk
>>2607082Retard swarthoid on the right needs to look in a mirror, he literally looks Italian and if he was 5'6 or below he'd pass for a full on Mexican.
>>2604696that pic made her look like she was some mixed race qt but it's just some ugly nepo j witch
>>260699080% of prostitutes do it because it pays better than a minimum wage job at a factory/farm. Yes, I'm calling them hoes immoral lazy ass mother fuckers. 10% legit were coerced into it or are mentally incapable of holding a proper job, etc. The other 10% faced some kind of early adulthood trauma (parents kicking them out, for example) and adopted a lifestyle.
No, I'm not talking out of my ass. When I worked minwage factory job, 8-10hours a day, a stinky ass hoe in my country who gave merely 2 bjs a day earned better than me. That's 8-10 hrs vs 20 minutes.
So yeah, the communist political program is still dragging their asses to a factory and giving them their own apartments. The mentally ill 10% require special care, obv.
>>2607214I am going to watch it now at 7:30 AM
>>2604696Tbf, Odessa was founded by Catherine the Great and it's always been majority Russian. Also, the Kiev regime dropped an S from its name.
That said, I really don't see how that woman is some kind of gigapussy…
>>2605972He did that clown show with Mike Tyson last year and he must have thought he was the real deal. That said, I guess he still got tens of millions anyway. He also doesn't have a brain like his brother, so there's no risk of brain damage.
>>2607146Jeff dealt with powerful people. Also, Drew will never have a girlfriend.
>>2607206<Humans need to be worker slaves foreverThanks, Mr Pope.
>>2607298>Lifts-her-Taillmao
>>2607412it's just bog standard diamat
>>2607418no,a study in the netherlands even showed that they make more money illegally than working in the designated brothel
>>2607423>netherlandsLol
Next you're going to use americans as an example of the proletarian condition
>>2607215>80% of prostitutes do it because it pays better than a minimum wage job at a factory/farm.Ok, material reason. I wonder what is teh thesis
>Yes, I'm calling them hoes immoral lazy ass mother fuckers.What? For wanting more money in a capitalist state?
>>2607214Been seeing a lot of posts about it on rednote, so I suspect the international audience will like it like the other ones. Cameron was talking about maybe not doing 4&5 if this one doesn't do numbers, but I bet he will.
>>2607215Bro nobody forced your dumb ass to go blow your wages on sex workers. I feel like in socialism it's perfectly fine if some people choose to contribute to society through fucking.
>>2607412But how do you know that you know?
>>2607433For avoiding productive work. Under War Communism prostitutes were placed in labor camps.
>>2607462bourgeois metaphysical question
>>2607467>muh war communism>muh labour campsThings that bourgeois states dont do
>>2607482Why is it bourgeois?
>>2607482no investigation no right to speak
>>2607521you do not have a right to talk nonsense
>>2607516the invariant dharma of the ICP told me so
>>2607447I think the funniest thing is that what I keep hearing as a critique is Avatar's "lack of cultural relevance" or whatever as though "cultural relevance" (aka memes) are the currency that decides whether something is "good" or not.
Also yeah, Cameron continues to amp up the "American Imperialism is bad" stuff perfectly. Like its almost impossible NOT to pick up I'd say.
>>2607769It’s not like any other Hollywood slop had any cultural relevance
Please educate me on China. What's the current government like? Is it really socialist?
>>2608182Asking the important question
>>2608182The evil Navi chick says she wants to keep Quatrich as her personal pleasure slave.
>>2608195The ugly disgusting Nazi sloptuber is creating fake narratives which she then 'intelligently' dismantles.
That moron supposedly was deradicalising alt right chuds according to NYT.
Combat liberalism, always.
>>2608195of all the things to go after cointelpoints over
>>2608195I mean there is deffo evidence that preteens were getting trafficked. but she's not wrong re: yanks being massive pedos and their culture being gross.
>>2608218To think child marriage is still legal in many states in the US.
>>2607836Eddie just loves his "dialectics"
>>2608369Ah so the voice is that of midwester marx?
>>2608179can you take your grandma to watch this
>>2608179It is a reactionary yankee take on native anti-imperialist resistance. But it was still a well made animated film. I liked the drug scene. Quatrich was basically the protagonist of it though lol, main character has no personality. Also idk why Spider trusted main character man at all after he almost killed him for the greater good, it would be normal to run away after that I think.
Cameron is going to make these films forever and it shows in the film. There is nothing approaching a resolution. The Na'avi need a military strategy or they are never going to win, they are purely reactive. But it doesn't matter how many battles they win because they don't have an actual strategy. They will just be slowly attritioned down until they can't fight back. This is fine because Cameron wants to keep it going with just the baddie humans attacking and then probably have god show up at the end and save the day and family drama for 10000 years.
The Na'avi need a proper military strategy. The battles they win need to lead to something, they need to learn the strategy of Protracted People's War. And further than that they need to industrialise. First they need to get rid of the anti-technology sentiment because it is not useful. They have experts in the form of the scientist base and they can abduct more experts from the city. Then they need to build mines, concrete, explosives factories, and arm everyone for an assault on the city. Then they need a plan to develop a nuclear program and create missiles to fire at the incoming venture stars. That is the only way Pandora can stay free and its the only way they are going to save the whales, the forest and the ancestors.
>>2608424i'd watch that movie
I've just realized that fascism is the elitist's way to avoid socialism. Fascism is a tool for the capitalist. Many companies and elite bigots financed Nazi germany. In return, Hitler killed the socialist movement and removed labor unions. What's even crazier is that some of those companies were American, and bombers were instructed not to strike their factories. This is why I never understood fascism before, because I thought it had a deep philosophy, but now I see it's just the mise en place of a movement that wants to violently supress socialism. How it seeks its goals it's what it needs to be understood. Thoughts?
>>2608427I mean even if the Na'avi just got together (like they do in the film) and all attack the human city at once it would be a start, because it is basically the foothold of the corpos and with it gone they will have a much harder time coming back. Kill all the humans that won't collaborate with you and the rest can work building factories in the city. The enemy foothold is destroyed and the Na'avi have a kickstart in industrialisation. Also the whaling operation is completely stopped overnight if the city is destroyed.
>>2608195>>2608385Do you think Contra and Bill…?
>>2608424I don’t think they’re gonna industrialize. I think the resolution Cameron is gonna go for is the humans basically “becoming Navi”. I mean this film is really leaning into that theme.
I don’t think Cameron is “anti tech”, like the dude is more committed to scientific advancements than most directors. I think what he is ultimately setting up is a confrontation where humanity changes itself and “lives in harmony with nature” without necessarily being primitive. I’m thinking solar punk or eco socialism. Like something remarkable about the film is it shows a kind of growing consciousness or solidarity among certain human characters. Like, them recognizing that it’s not a matter of just appealing to the corpo scumbags or military psychos, you’ve got to fight them. Like there’s a line where I think Jake is talking about “the suits who’d never understand the world as we see it”.
The only character who seems to be wholly unredeemable ironically is the weasel looking corpo guy and the whaler. Their irredeemable nature is due to their proximity to and participation in capitalist exchange.
So I think what he’s setting up isn’t humanity giving up their technology but becoming some kind of peaceful eco-utopians in part by them overthrowing the ruling class through a kind of radical gaining of collective consciousness.
>>2608430replace elite with financial capital and you get a better definition
>>2608447Yeah I think that is what Cameron is going for, I just don't think he's really executing it properly. It ended up feeling reactionary in some ways. The fixation on family and praying to god to win battles. I wish it was just connecting to the ancestors which is cool and not the godess thing.
>>2608397no you fucked up retard
>>2608195Contra's takes are consistently annoying and retarded.
>>2608179Clarify for me, is the avatar here training his xeno gf to use weapons against her own people or against the human invaders?
>>2608496The Ash People in the movie are basically religious nihilists (openly rejecting the divinity of the Navi’s god and expressing contempt to her in a ritualized sense) that subsist off raiding other tribes for resources. They quickly become fascinated by human weapons (which many of the Navi have a taboo against) and so the marine dude basically goes Colonel Kurtz in his attempt to crush the MC’s insurgency.
What’s funny is basically all the other humans start to think he’s going off the deep end and he’s basically “going native” in a way he doesn’t even acknowledge. Like imagine if General Mattis walked into Pentagon briefings dressed like he just got back from Hajj with his Burka wearing wife in tow.
>>2608503I thought she is Lebanese
I just heard that tucker carlson won antisemite of the year 2025. I could have sworn ms. rachel already won antisemite of the year this year. between this and the number of women who have won I'm starting to think this isn't a real contest.
if anybody follows speedruns it's like the twin galaxies situation where the self appointed judges have a vested interest in the results and its all political. I think it reflects poorly on the anti-semite community that they haven't formed an independent body composed of community contributors to judge awards like this.
how the fuck was there an open market on this league when there's no integrity commission to vet anti-semites?
https://polymarket.com/event/2025-antisemite-of-the-year>>2608584To be honest I think Fascists are driven so much by gut feeling that it kind of explains a lot of how contradictory their ideology was. As far as I know it was Mosley who arguably laid down the closest to a "scientific" kind of Fascism but even then he veers off into vibes.
>>2608512>What’s funny is basically all the other humans start to think he’s going off the deep end and he’s basically “going native” in a way he doesn’t even acknowledge.tbf it worked for Lawrence of Arabia.
>>2608603>tbf it worked for Lawrence of Arabia.I mean, given that the goal of the humans from 2 onwards is to colonize Pandora for permanent human habitation, having one of your most important, having one of your most important assets start dressing and talking like the locals, taking a native wife, and handing out guns to them like candy might not be a wise decision.
>>2608503I will always support Frogan and the Ayyrabs podcast 100 %. They are the bravest. Just look at their stuff on Youtube:
>Who has the biggest moobs?>Avocados taste like what?>Would you date an alien?Of course, there are people who are like "NOOO SHUT IT DOWN." Powerful people…
>>2608604While I get being nervous about defections divide and conquer is a basic tactic. Picking a smaller ethnic group to favor, especially one who needs your supplies and can't be independent, then giving them advanced weapons and setting them to fight the other tribes has worked many times.
>>2607215As far as I am aware, the percentages are more like the reverse (Like 80%ish are poor, traumatized, trafficked, etc. While 20%ish are petty bourgeois degenerates. From memory Gail Dines cites these stats); That said you aren't likely to encounter victims of outright human trafficking in your day to day life.
Whatever the case may be though, even if 100% were all petty bourgeois, you are right that socialism would force them into regular employment, hence avoiding a huge social waste opportunity cost.
>>2608629'Frequent Hasan Piker collaborator' lmao
>>2608629Du bist deutscher. Ich sehe dich.
>>2608629famous Hasan enjoyer, BadEmpanada
also basedbasedbasedbasedbased
>>2608640Can't wait to pick a side between bitchass capitalists
>>2608642He initially tried to suck up to hasan for a career boost, when he was ignored, he realized ghat "feuding" (one sidedly) and anklebiting bigger ecelebs works just as well
>>2608749no, he initially told hasan to fuck off, then when hasan boosted his palestine shit he endorsed it in the interest of the people of palestine, then when hasan started shilling genocide dems again based empanada called him out without fear or favor.
>>2608612I went into my local DSA and said that liberalism was merely a ploy by merchants and lawyers and the scales fell from their eyes. But instead of becoming socialists they vowed to become subsistence farmers and give their crops to their baron. Can't win 'em all.
>>2608640What do they even have to fight about?
>>2608629I respect BadEmpanada
>>2608629I don't have a problem with jews actually
>>2608810>A little girl diedShame on her parents for bringing her to the Hitler youth beach party.
Though, considering what they believed…
one less potential settler.
>>2608749>a career boost>he realized ghat "feuding" (one sidedly) and anklebiting bigger ecelebs works just as wellhe predicted he would lost subs for shitting on Hasan over the Platner thing and thats exactly what happened
>>2608629>Yeth, and? What a madlad
>>260882115 million of my kids died in your mother's stomach last night.
>>2608829>one less potential settlerCareful with the anti-semitic comments
>>2608886Engagement farming final boss: sluts and Islam.
Guaranteed to get 17462882635 comments on your post.
>>2608886don't see the problem desu
>>2608899i forgot leftoidpol got filled with retarded theists these days for culture war reasons
>>2608909The Seething Sunni Republic or the Coping Shia Commune, you must choose, leftist man.
>>2608793>What do they even have to fight about?If you really have no idea you could watch the video.
>>2608888So every jew in the planet is a potential settler? Jawohl, mein Führer
>>2608956>So every jew in the planet is a potential settler?Only those sympathetic to Israel, which I reckon is the vast majority, at least within NATO. But regardless, this was a Zionist event by a settler and IDF supporting organization. That child's parents declared her a settler by attending a Chabad event.
Personally, I find it irresponsible to use children like that, but what do I know? I don't hold views by which my children are means to further some divinely ordained mission for racial supremacy in the holy land.
>>2608821haha I remember this kid. He was a sakaist who used to apologize about how his grandpa was a racist settler lol. He did a podcast with a fat black autistic lesbian who ate it up. She spoke fluent Chinese. This was in the Marxism-Maoism-Lesbianism days. Funny days lol.
>>2608779Haz is still alive?
>>2609027why is this pic so accurate tho?
>>2609227Why would BadEmpanada say this?
>>2609231N for Nimrod, libtard.
>>2608956>So every jew in the planet is a potential settler?yes? that's literally how Israel works. even more so with people born into Zionist families. your best bet for taking out Zionists and future Zionists is at Zionist events
>>2609248>fedpostingyour best bet for taking out zionists and future zionists is finacial, consumer, and social boycotts. sanctioning israel. dissolving the apartheid state.
we oppose terror, and that's why we want to focus on the fascist terror of the israeli state and settlers. they are infinitely more destructive than some random bozos even ISIS has disavowed.
>>2609241Evidence America is a failed society. The state needs to delouse him and his house to make sure pests don't infest the neighborhood.
>>2609263I only oppose terror for tactical reasons. I couldn't give a shit if zionists get murked. And ISIS is an Israeli asset.
>>2609275this would be 1000x more effective if chabad for israel didn't support israel, and israel didn't airstrike childrens hospitals.
nobody supports the terrorists, but if people rhetorically paint that little girl on the side of an idf bulldozer it's going to backfire.
>>2608993wtf are you talking about, jesse?
>>2609282kek. nice music choice.
so many important news to cover and hasan spends 4 hours stroking his own ego rehashing the one time that nicki minaj fans got angry at him.
i really think that democrat campaign agency he signed with has instructed him to focus on inconsequential shit.
>>2609241A strange personality straddling the line between lolcow,genuinely mentally ill and puppetmaster.
Asmongold's public persona embodies USian mediocrity, intentionally. He constantly appeals to the lowest of the low brow by acting the fool, on everything. Including politics now as well. And yet, Asmon seems to have positioned himself in a balance with regards to his main gig of gaming content, where nothing he says or does sticks to him. But his words still command loyalty among a following who seems to mostly "play along".
Kind of Trumpian
>>2609365bademp sees a 20 second clip from a 30 minute long video from an australian guy he's never heard of before, assumes he hasn't talked about palestinian deaths and israeli occupation enough, even though he's spent over a year and a half attacking the australian israel lobby, and antagonizes him because he's a content farmer who can only stay relevant by instigating drama with other people
>>2609402wrong wrong wrong: tom tanuki is massive for an australian far left channel, fired the first shot, and used zionist talking points to do it.
this is only the first time he's taken shots at BE on main. him and saltyjordies were referring to BE when the media shilling israeli conscientious objectors. five solid misguided minutes talking about
>solidarity with the israeli working classon their rolp podcast; israel abandoned the bundist kibbutz propaganda decades ago you fucking dickheads. they import a racialised working class from india, bangladesh, and thailand to avoid enfranchising palestinians through labor.
>>2609427old mate didn't stop the genocide, didn't inspire a popular movement against the genocide, didn't change a fucking thing. if anything it's just sad. one look at the homeless veterans pissing their pants fented out in the street should have taught him what yanks really think of their soldiers.
>>2609427I mean, does Bushnell matter?
If he does, why does Bushnell matter and not all the other one's who immolated themselves for Palestine but don't get any memory?
And if his immolation matters, what did it achieve? (nothing)
>>2609457>aussie far leftLmao
>>2609427I have completely forgotten about it until reading this post. Looks like BE is right.
>>2609402Wrong. You cannot call yourself leftist and call the deaths of zionists bad. The australian humanizes zionists so he is a fascist. Bad Empanada has exposed these zionist tendencies of the fake left imperialists. All who attack Bad Empanada for being right are crypto-zionists, or their misinformed idiots
>>2609316he's right insofar as jewish children are worthy of media outrage even though israel murders dozens of children on a daily basis, what's so controversial about this? is this board going to walk the zionist line just out of sheer bad empanada derangement syndrome?
>>2609518that's the only thing he's ever been flat out wrong about, but to be fair no one was prepared for how undignified charlie kirk's death was. kids literally film themselves saying "can you pass me the kirky" at thanksgiving because they think it's hilarious
>>2609518>>2609522Bad Empanada is not wrong in this case. He is playing 4d chess by being sarcastic to trigger liberals
>>2609518I won't blame him for this because frankly I'm surprised at how even despite the liberal media at the time saying the "we disagree with him but he was a champion of debate and hearing both sides blah blah blah" people really just forgot about him.
>>2609427wheres the lie lmao. propaganda of the deed is a fucking sham and i wont forget how mods were on damage control 24/7 those days banning anyone who said anything that wasnt praise for some depressed mentally ill person killing himself
>>2609533Proof that superstructure has real effects is ghat bushnell killed himself instead of fellow american soldiers
Secular christianity
>>2609522He was also flat out wrong that Americans would support the genocide
Guess the gentrifying Australian edgelord can get things wrong :^)
>>2609541Americans DO support the genocide.
>>2609518Once more, further proving Third Worldists have more in common with right wingers than leftists.
>>2609548go fetch your meds
>>2609548>OMG stop saying potd doesnt work!!!!! think of the optics!! the morals!!! solidarity!!!!!!!you have a lot more in common with third worldists than you realize brah
>>2609548>Third Worldists have more in common with right wingers than leftists.TRUKE
>>2609552He dismissed a guy immolating himself outside of the Israeli embassy but then started sweating “oh God, Kirk got shot, this is bad!” He clearly values the lives of right wingers more.
>>2609427>muh edgelordIs this too far for you? You were all about calling people "moralists" the other day, what happened?
>>2609555the kirk takes pissed me off but he came off it when it unravelled maga instead of galvanizing it and excusing donald X jeffstein.
ICE raids are still a daily occurrence though so it's pretty clear that no matter what stance you take on kirk it doesn't fucking matter.
>>2609555nazis started literally making lists out of people laughing at charlie kirk, tons of people were unfairly fired. we're lucky they're tremendously incompetent and their efforts were wasted. reading rightful concern for right wing blowback as "valuing their lives" is an interpretation so forced, it could only come from a retarded cpusa member. now hand your dues so that the cpusa leadership can continue living cozy lives.
>>2609555>He clearly values the lives of right wingers more.but when people tell you not denouncing Platner is putting the lives of US americans above everyone else you cried about moralism, shit goes both ways, no crying now
>>2609557His edgelordism is a symptom of moralism, not a repudiation of it.
>>2609564He dismissed a guy who was willing to die publicly and painfully for Palestine. Beyond dismissing it he had clear contempt for the man, “the world shouldn’t stop just cause some guy killed himself”, then Kirk dies and apparently the world
should stop because some guy was killed.
Besides he already says we’re all Nazis and the like, why should we care if this is their “Reichstag Fire moment”? What, we’ll go from 99% Hitler to 100%?
>>2609548This is the most schizo attempt at rebranding horseshoe theory I have ever seen, sometimes you make Felix seem like a normal dude, you both need to be locked up.
>>2609577>Besides he already says we’re all NazisHe says that about liberal zionists doe, are you self-reporting as one?
>>2609577You are the most boring fuck in this shithole board
>>2609539It's only a matter of time before one of these freaks transhumanistjakpost on an official goverment account
>>2609577Wrong. You are moralist. Your moralism has rendered you unable to grasp anti-imperialist post-irony and sarcasm. Yoy just dont get that the response you exhibit is what BE wants to provoke from chauvinists
>>2609577what % hitler was graham platners totenkopf tattoo?
>>2601769if this seems shocking to you, you should try reading plato
>>2609566>”people”You mean Felix, and there’s no need to denounce someone you didn’t endorse. Playing some moralists game isn’t something I’m gonna do.
Secondly I’m pointing out hypocrisy, not talking about him refusing to confine himself to moralistic standards. Before Bushnell was even cold he was sneering that nothing he did mattered, and I’d seen people say that if Bushnell really wanted to do something good he could’ve tried shooting someone at the embassy instead of “meaninglessly killing himself”
But someone actually shot Charlie Kirk and he starts sweating “Oh no guys! This is bad!” But now with the Bondi Beach shit he’s laughing at it and scolding anyone “on the left” for calling it a tragedy. Whether it’s intentional or not he’s basically doing the job of demoralizing the Left and creating propaganda for the Right. I don’t know all that much about the Bondi Beach shit but wasn’t one of the victims a little girl? So in comes some “pro palestine” guy laughing about it. So he doesn’t want people killing right wing propagandists, he doesn’t want people killing themselves to bring attention to Israel’s crimes, but he
does think murdering a bunch of random people in such a way that Israel can milk it for sympathy is great and don’t you dare publicly say it’s bad.
He’s literally the type of “pro palestine” activist that Israel would want. He’s more of a boon to the Right than the Left.
>>2609592>But now with the Bondi Beach shit he’s laughing at it and scolding anyone “on the left” for calling it a tragedy. Whether it’s intentional or not he’s basically doing the job of demoralizing the Left and creating propaganda for the Right.You are speaking like a zionist.
>>2609577>then Kirk dies and apparently the world should stop because some guy was killed.look, again, that's you putting words in some guy's mouth because you dislike him. i'd argue with you further but you're literally retarded if you think anyone is entertaining your clown show where you just literally invent strawmen from sheer air.
>>2609592>You mean Felixmedicate yourself, your obsession with a literally anonymous poster is embarrassing.
>>2609579Third Worldists love Nazis the same way Zionists do; it gives them something to point to and say “this is the norm, this is why we’re right in whatever we do”. When they see someone on the Left they’ll heap scorn on them for imagined deficiencies and declare them no better than fascists and when they see someone on the Right they’ll praise them or boost them in one way or another. Because ultimately they’ve substituted class struggle for racial or national struggle and they want the battle to fall along those lines.
>>2609592you're putting words in his mouth. he's not celebrating the bondi shooting. he's contrasting it with the response to palestine which is way worse and is flat out being ignored, and that the shooting was a gift to zionist censors. he didn't mourn kirk he warned people that shooting dumbass puppets like him would be handing martyrs to the fascists, who immediately tried to hoist kirk as a homegrown horst wessel. he didn't mock aaron bushnell (destiny did) he said that the US public was too callous and two faced to be moved by actions such as this and that activists should use their lives not kill themselves.
bondi was not perpetrated by the left. we don't need to apologise for it. the only miss was that any uptick of violence in the wake of charlie kirk has been imperceptible amongst the background chaos and daily shootings in the united states.
>>2609592>You mean FelixNot everyone who disagrees with you is Felix.
>He’s literally the type of “pro palestine” activist that Israel would wantYour party (in its current state) is literally the type of "communist" party the democrats that fund Israel want. Keep not denouncing Platner in the name of "pragmatism", you are doing great.
>>2609610is graham platner's fed posting and totenkopf tattoo a mere imagined deficiency?
>>2609610when third worldists want an example of left chauvinism, they point at you, retard.
>>2609617>left chauvinismNever heard this term before. Is this like the Social Imperialism Mao pulled out of his ass to explain why he didn't listen to Soviet engineers about the great leap forward?
>>2609617>when third worldists want an example of left chauvinism, they point at you, retard.Good I hope they do because it makes them look absurd by comparison. The seething they have for a guy for saying "The average American isn't an SS officer" shows where their priorities are.
>>2609615>is graham platner's fed posting and totenkopf tattoo a mere imagined deficiency?Your claiming we endorsed and support him sure is.
>>2609613>you're putting words in his mouth. he's not celebrating the bondi shooting. he's contrasting it with the response to palestine which is way worse and is flat out being ignored, and that the shooting was a gift to zionist censors. he didn't mourn kirk he warned people that shooting dumbass puppets like him would be handing martyrs to the fascists, who immediately tried to hoist kirk as a homegrown horst wessel.He posted mere hours after the shooting "don't ever let them force you to show sympathy to zionists" so it seems like he sure doesn't fucking care about optics or handing martyrs to Israel when it's not a right wing guy being shot. Oh, but some guy said "It's a shame what happened to the girl at Bondi Beach"? Rake him over the coals and call him a zionist manipulator. Somehow a viscerally repulsive man saying "don't mourn the Bondi Beach victims" isn't handing them a victory.
>he didn't mock aaron bushnell (destiny did) he said that the US public was too callous and two faced to be moved by actions such as this and that activists should use their lives not kill themselves.He stared dead-eyed at the camera and said "why should the world stop just cause some American soldier killed himself? He was completely casually indifferent to the man's death.
He can't have his cake and eat it too. He can't be publicly sneering at dead leftists or mass shooting victims as unimportant then panic about optics when some fucking racist douchebag gets a new hole in his neck.
>>2609613>bondi was not perpetrated by the left. we don't need to apologise for it. the only miss was that any uptick of violence in the wake of charlie kirk has been imperceptible amongst the background chaos and daily shootings in the united states.We don't need to apologize for it but we don't need to publicly state "who cares" either.
>>2609621Basically he'll say every single American is a little Eichmann and to the right of Himmler, blah blah blah, and if you say "that's absurd and you're insane" he decries you as a left chauvinist.
>>2609625i like how you went from "he cried over a dead fascists because he's a nazi like all third worldists" to "uhhm sweaty bad empanada does not have heckin good optics", just a paragraph or two away from accusing random people of calling you a nazi. you're the most ridiculous person on this board and no one should take you seriously
>>2609631He sweated over some dead right winger because “muh giving fascists martyrs” shit while previously showing contempt and disregard for a pro Palestine martyr and just not giving a fuck about Zionists being able to point to him showing disregard for a mass shooting. I’m not the one being contradictory here.
>>2609635>He sweated over some dead right winger because “muh giving fascists martyrs” shithe did so while fascists were already lionizing him, making blacklists of people who tweeted about charlie kirk, while trump was organizing a memorial on public TV. the bushnell comparison is completely irrelevant because, indeed, no one cared! like look around, are people singing "we are aaron bushnell"? the fuck are you even on about, why are you keeping tabs on this like your life depends on it, can you just hate e-celebs like a normal dude instead of doing it in a way that makes you look fundamentally dishonest?
>>2609637I personally know at least three people whose awakening to the Palestine issue was Bushnell’s death and since that death the U.S. public has grown more anti-Israel, but I understand it’s very important for third worldists to create apathy and contempt for anyone in the Western Left so they can keep grifting off “everyone around you is a Nazi”
>>2609639>I personally know at least three peopleI know six who were radicalized by bad empanada on israel-palestine, and he didnt even have to do self-immolation, i'd say he's winning this round.
>>2609640Okay, and? I’m certain there are just as many who were negatively polarized by his “you are all Nazis and nothing you do matters” attitude. I doubt all that many people became more pro Israel after Bushnell’s stunt.
>>2609642>Okay, and? I’m certain there are just as many who were negatively polarized by his “you are all Nazis and nothing you do matters” attitude.i dont think that's true because he has never said that, that's part of your invented strawman
>>2609625> don't ever let them force you to show sympathy to zionistsholds up. chabad's website has pages and pages of apologia for the genocide.
> we don't need to publicly state "who cares"thanks to "edgelords" eli schlanger has been quietly deleted from commercial broadcasts and propaganda. it's not even who cares, it's taking a principled stance to not participate in eulogizing zionist extremists or shamelessly waving their dead children in peoples faces. we know that chabad activists spend hours of thelr lives spamming
> amalek> pallywood> baby terroristunder photos of kids blown up in gaza.
> "why should the world stop just cause some American soldier killed himself?> He was completely casually indifferent to the man's death. so was the rest of the continental united states bro. they were also casually indifferent to the deaths of like 100k palestinians. the world didn't stop.
>>2609637this. CPUSAnon is acting like he wrote him a fucking eulogy.
>>2609645>it's not even who cares, it's taking a principled stancenot something CPUSA can do, they just anemically yield to war criminals like Platner, in a way that's just leaves enough room for them not to be responsible, until the stakes are inflated and it's lesser evilism all over. just a nothing organization with no backbone or credibility.
>>2609643His entire shtick is saying the average person in the west is essentially a Nazi and dismissing any attempt at political action here as pointless.
>>2609645>so was the rest of the continental united states bro. they were also casually indifferent to the deaths of like 100k palestinians. the world didn't stop.Literally Israel is more unpopular than ever before in the West and Zionists are resorting to more absurd measures to try and control public opinion. Fucking Kamala likely lost cause of Gaza. Whining “Durr there’s no point and you all don’t really care.” When there’s been months of protests serves no purpose other than to tell people to stop protesting because it doesn’t matter.
>>2609651now you're putting words in my mouth. I'm just telling anyone who celebrates aaron bushnell that they'll die in vain and they shouldn't kill themselves.
>>2609651>His entire shtick is saying the average person in the west is essentially a NaziI think I've been watching a very different e-celeb, are you sure it's bad empanada or one of your fun strawmen
>>2609652If you accept the notion that Bushnell’s death and the vast protests against Israel haven’t moved the needle on US public opinion on Israel then you’re basically saying it’s a completely pointless exercise to engage in any kind of anti Zionist activism. Theres no reason to actually try because it doesn’t matter, just go home and indulge in whatever you want because nobody cares if a bunch of Palestinians die, and if you actually give your life to the cause it still doesn’t matter because the cause is pointless from the start.
>>2609657>If you accept the notion that Bushnell’s death and the vast protests against Israeli like how you lumped in "vast protests" because you're not even convinced of your own claim.
>>2609657still putting words in my mouth. I cautioned against self immolation, when did I deride public demonstration?
I'll make an exception for ya: you're more than welcome to light yourself up mate.
>>2609651>Literally Israel is more unpopular than ever before in the West and Zionists are resorting to more absurd measures to try and control public opinionYou mean in a vibes kind of way. Or in a, people are not gonna vote for politicians who aid Israel in genociding kind of way?
Because the latter doesn't seem to gain much of any traction. And, if you haven't noticed pretty much everyone left of Trump is now some variation of liberal Zionist denouncing "Netanyahu" or coming up with their own pandering. Spain, Ireland, Turkey, UK, France, Sweden,Italy, (kind of)Germany… all have "denounced" the genocide in some way while doing literally the opposite and enabling it without interruption.
Everyone is on board with "the Trump Plan" in the real material sense, while hand wringing for the camera. The "protests" when they get big, are often co-opted by liberal zionists moving the goalposts to "peace" and "ending the cycle of violence" and "co-existence" and so on…
All BE does is point out the fact that Western states are run by and for the people of the West in a broad sense, not just a narrow ruling elite. They serve the broader Western nations over and above any class struggle that may exist there. Only with this can it be explained why imperialist countries have so much support from their working class and why there's never been any effective movement opposing them.
This is why imperial core marxists get so angry, because it pops the bubble they live in from reading 1800s political theory before the capitalist imperialist system solidified.
>>2609663
> Gaza is destroyed, Palestinians have been genocided
This, it's long over. Gaza is already a bunch of rubble and soon most palestinians will either be dead or displaced. In a decade or two someone like CPUSAnon will simply handwave the memory as something that only third worldists are concerned about, and that americans are currently not responsible for the mistakes in the past, or some other grand gesture like that.
Gaza is unlivable and the Judaization of the West Bank is going full steam ahead. All the US "left" did to oppose it was get some Turtle Island T-shirt wearing college kids to get themselves arrested for a day, and pretend as if a US infantry soldier burning alive was politically meaningful.
>>2609661 (me)
And more importantly, the deed is done. Gaza is destroyed, Palestinians have been genocided and continue being ethnically cleansed from the west bank at record pace. The occupation only gets more repressive with time.
A few wrinkling of noses when the genocide gets blasted in social media 24/7 is less than nothing. If NATO citizens weren't FORCED to stare at the carnage, as is the case for Sudan or was for Yemen, they would not give a flying shit. The "bad rep" that Israel and Zionism has is not on account of genocide, it's because Zionists are annoying fucks. And their extremely privileged status as a movement keeps being brought to the fore.
The moment all the EU socdems declare the matter solved and look to the future and the media can stop showing the gore, nobody cares. Because nuisance is gone. Give it a couple of years after the new Oslo.
>>2609661There have been plenty of polls showing even Republicans (young republicans granted) would vote for an anti Israel candidate who promised to cut funding to Israel to fund programs like Medicaid over a pro Israel candidate in general. But the problem with elections is that many of these options don’t even materially “exist” to people as an electoral option. Both parties establishments function as a lid to keep certain policies simply unavailable—through donors sure, but also economism. “Local politics” is how independent candidates would get their start but the jobs are both unglamorous and poorly paying if you’re honest, you will compete likely against two other candidates who have an infrastructure that’s truly national. American society as a whole has only become more atomized and individualistic in no small part thanks to the structure of capitalism here so retarded takes like this
>>2609662 presumes a kind of collective will and action that doesn’t actually exist out here. A collective will to act
can be built but it’s an uphill struggle that gets internally sabotaged by factions saying everything is pointless anyways.
>>2609668Already nobody cares. People who talk about Gaza today are seen as behind the times, the pro-Palestine movement was just a fad that is no longer "it". This is because the "Left" in the USA are just trend-chasers rather than people interested in internationalism as a principle. And it cannot be otherwise, since actual internationalism would be harmful to their self interest.
>>2609669They have ableist slurs but never opposing arguments.
>>2609670That third worldists dismiss arguments without addressing them doesn’t mean there is no argument.
>>2609674The glorious US internationalist revolution will happen any second now, the reason why nothing with any semblance to it has ever happened was just an accident without material reasons o algo.
>>2609670>internationalism as a principle. >actual internationalism would be harmful to their self interest.You must have some very particular idea of what internationalism entails because average American would massively benefit from global socialism.
>>2609678No better vindication of Third Worldism. So much of the West literally see the peoples of Africa, Asia, etc. as less than human. CPUSAnon and the Bordigoids can hue and cry about it.
>>2609670I don't even care about the USA, to be frank. The conditions will be forced upon them from outside anyway by the cold war. To me the gross liberal Zionism of the EU is much worse. I was just pissed at this "reputational damage" argument, about "moving the needle".As far as I'm concerned, the "needle" is an abstraction of a PR machine which has gotten very efficient at turning money into public opinion. Everything goes if you are willing to pay. So Israel taking "diplomatic damage" or opinion polls is saying nothing has happenedand nothing will happen.
But hey, we are getting a wave of fascists mirroring south america. So soon there won't be a need to even pretend to dislike Israel or concentration camps (for "migrants") are an unseemly thing.
>>2609681You don't understand how the livelihoods of average US Americans are propped up by the global financial system enforced via the dollar at the expense of the majority of the world population.
>>2609687>You don't understand how the livelihoods of average US Americans are propped up by the global financial systemThis is also something that americans intuit, which is why they're voting for Trump who is promising pain abroad to "fix" the economic woes within the US. So called communists here understand less than random-ass people on the street
>>2609678These people are fucking disgusting.
>>2609677Not sure what you’re trying to get at here. Revolutions are born from conditions at home and fought by domestic workers predominantly. I can’t think of any historical case of a revolutionary upending of the political status quo based purely on foreign policy.
>>2609689>fought by domestic workers predominantlyTheres your problem
>>2609687Maybe 50 years ago. Cardboard houses, plastic crap, corn syrup food, lead water, medical debt, worthless jobs and homelessness doesn't add up to much benefit. Global socialism gives guarantees worth more than whatever cheap bullshit the average American has.
>>2609688No, Trump promises a dream of a better life that most don't have. Some people think that's better than the Democrat's offer of nothing.
>>2607218>thinking machines ruined the videoThey still cannot delay the Butlerian Jihad
Reminder that Nabokov is Epsteinian.
>>2607218warhammer avatar dune pluribus baldurs gate
consooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomLe epic wholsome chungus CPUSAnon just wants free healthcare and watch his slop and play his vidya
consoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom >>2609718>you must be miserable until The RevolutionFuck off.
>>2609817>americansThere's your answer.
>>2609518BE looks and acts Israeli
How many Hail Maos do i need to say for my sin of consooming trans breakcore music while playing BG3
>>2609610You really shouldnt use the name of your party when you post your schizophrenic victim complex bullshit, I'm sure there are good but misguided people there who are not mentally ill like you, its not fair for them.
>>2609998you are beyond salvation, sorry
>>2609518>He was not worth itHe was worth it for the memes alone, dork
>>2609998To cure your Ultraism you must play Wukong on a Huawei PC.
>>2609670>Talking about principles and moralityMiddle class pearl clutching petit bourgeois socialist
>>2610027 (me)
Joking aside its kinda ironic that that anon talk about internationalism while subtly implying that American workers cant oppose imperialism because of their national interest.
If you think like that then you don't believe in internationalism. You believe that Marx is wrong regarding internationalism because if internationalism is true then 1. American workers would feel more attached to oppressed workers than to their bourgeois state and 2. Third World workers would materially benefit from sabotaging their respective bourgeois states in the name of internationalism.
There is no way to believe in a world systems theory and then believe in proletarian internationalism. At best you can only believe that in some far off future workers will benefit from espousing international worker solidarity, when productive forces are even across the world, but for the now and here the material interest of workers have more in common with their respective world systems and thus respective national states and national governments. So do not be a coward and say that you are a true internationalist, say it loudly that you think that Marx is wrong
>>2609674>>2609674Are the third worldists in the room with us right now?
>>2609670>since actual internationalism would be harmful to their self interest.Hail ᴉuᴉlossnW
>>2610136at least he's honest
>>2609669>A collective will to act can be built but it’s an uphill struggle that gets internally sabotaged by factions saying everything is pointless anyways.Daily reminder that the Treatler discourse is being spread in a glow op to prevent any attempts of building a movement through sowing infighting, doomerism, and making socialists look like self-hating psychos.
Even if someone isn't a glowie (like BE), they're partaking in it albeit unaware.
>>2610163You guys on /USApol/ call anyone who thinks dickriding the democratic party is bad or counter productive an "ultra" or "TWist" or "Felix", if anyone glows here is you.
>>2610163Divide and conquer, the #1 CIA tactic
>>2610175Yes dude, I totally love the DSA/CPUSA and Democrats. Absolutely 100% will jump to defend them from critique.
Have any other words you'd like to put in my mouth? Anymore stuff to make up about me ?
>>2610035None of them ever consider that this would also mean it is in all third world workers interest to only liberate themselves, while helping to maintain the oppression of others, so they can benefit from it. The ultimate conclusion would be that the SPD made the right call at the start of WW1.
Thinking of creating a podcast / show called 'String Them Up' where every week I make the case for why some billionaire / politican should be hanged. The entire thing would be rage-bait listening to work people up and to get them to play along.
I'd roleplay as the MC of a new Terror and play devil's advocate on the individual's behalf, listing the crimes of the individual and their disgusting wealth along with bits of humour. The listeners would be an audience at the gallows pleading with the MC to execute them, just tuning in to hear about the vile injustices they commit in the name of wealth.
The show would end after every mock trial with the words "String Them Up" and the sound of a gallows drop.
I'd also release a side episode every week explaining out-of-character what role said person plays and the political context for their existence to educate the listener.
Good idea or no?
>>2610316>Good idea or no?It's a great idea if you want to be door knocked by the feds
>>2610316im reporting you to Kash Patel RIGHT NOW
>>2610323Relax, it's a fictional portrayal of a dystopian world in which the evil proletariat have seized power and are carrying out their crimes of
liquidating murdering innocent
bourgeois cockroaches entrepreneurs
>>2610324>im reporting you to Kash Patel RIGHT NOWOn it
I'm engraving(sharpie) their bullets as we speak, boss!
michael from pah is currently crashing out at BE
>>2610359forge the evidence while the donut is still hot
>>2610397oh it's that central_committee retard
fuck him
fuck BE
michael from pa says BE encourages people to do nothing and that dirty disgusting foreigners are wrong and not allowed to criticize the USA left.
he says to vote real hard.
>>2610397>michael from pa says BE encourages people to do nothinghe is right in this part, despite all the bemoan by BE of what people should do he never does or points to somewere to make anything he says real, all he wants is more views for that sweet youtube cash.
>michael from pa says BE encourages people to do nothing
No lie detected
sneed
>>2610471>he never does or points to somewere to make anything he says realYes he does, he often repeats that building an independent third party even if it means ignoring electoralism in the short term is what he considers the correct move and often points out that other countries actually managed to break two party systems this way, the only problem is that it can take decades. If he is correct or not thats another subject.
>all he wants is more views for that sweet youtube cashIf that was his endgame he would pander to the Hasan audience. Pic related.
>>2610397>michael from pah*googles*
Ah, so another Hasan orbiter.
It's so funny that, they have to tail Hasan and the man himself has to do whatever the Dems tell him. So now these leftoids have "decided" to die on the hill of a literally-who, MIC plant, proud imperialist veteran, first time candidate for senate who used to gloat about *loving* killing poors and got a Nazi tattoo to commemorate it.
If I didn't despise these sellouts I'd pity them. For they are clearly being given a suicide mission to discredit "the left", by their handlers.
>>2610555An now liberal Zionism. And once the orange man is out and some (D) takes his place, all the wars become righteous again.
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>>2610547>If that was his endgame he would pander to the Hasan audience. Pic related.First, the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. You can have deeply held political views while also being motivated by fame and fortune. In fact, the former often leads to the latter, because activists want larger platforms, and so they'll end up seeking popularity because of that.
Second, in a lot of cases, a more niche audience is actually better for your bottom line. Because they feel they have more of a personal stake in your output, they tend to provide more support for longer. For an example on the right, Sam Hyde's content is deliberately unpalatable and inaccessible to a mass audience. But he's been able to maintain his cultural relevance significantly longer than most of the other rightoids who got popular around GamerGate, and it's because his followers feel deeply attached to him personally.
My impression with BE is that he makes a spectacle out of himself, being such an unremitting asshole about everything he thinks, is because he wants to expand his audience while also curating it. He wants a cult audience of people who he knows are not only truly receptive to his talking points but also going to be with him for the long-haul.
>>2610037I can't think of a quicker way to rot your brain than spending a week watching some smelly dipshit who can't clean his house endlessly shake his head with every syllable as he says the most fascist shit he can think of.
>>2610175You think calling out people saying "americans aren't genetically proletarian and are subhumans" is dickriding the Dems lmao. Contrarian pussy.
>>2610647i dont think anyone is saying this anon. you should receive your daily medication
>>2610020Like clockwork
>>2609714>No, Trump promises a dream of a better life that most don't have.Intentionally bad misread or stupid? His own words is "everyone is scamming america" or whatever, what do you think this sort of rhetoric implies? That the US is naturally exceptional and the only reason your life is so miserably is because of foreign actors having it too good. You're fucking retarded, stop excusing treatlerites.
>>2610647You only "call out" all people who evaluate the "amerikans" on scientific material basis of their collective existence, history, and actions. amerikans have no proletarian history, but history genocide and colonialism and slavery as the majority of the settler mass were european petite-bourgeois and indentured lumpen convicted felons.
The ultimate lesson of the 20th century is merely that the struggle for the liberation of humanity will be waged against, not alongside, the first world "working class". Failure to acknowledge this is simply failure to properly analyze history.
>>2610743Yes. To advance further as humanity, the 3rd world proles need to avoid becoming 1st world treatlerite cargo cultists. We need cucktin to nuke the west but he is too cucked for that.
>>2610631I dont know, I would agree with you if he leaned more into parasocial BS like Hyde does but he doesnt.
All political content creators want to expand their audiences if possible and have a loyal audience, its his income source at the end of the day and the idea is to get your message across as many people as possible while not getting audience captured by people whose ideas you dont share but would end up having to pander to them for money, because thats what happens if you not "curate it" as you put it. If not, whats the point? But he doesnt seem driven just by that, or at least doesnt put it above his principles. As long as it stays that way I think he isnt doing anything wrong really. I dont even agree with him on everything (Ukraine for example) but his reasoning is always pretty consistent.
>being such an unremitting asshole about everything he thinksI think this is an exaggeration, maybe thats the way it looks if you only see his social media posts.
Third Worldist!!
Campist!!
Tankie!!
Authoritarian!!
Stalinist!!
Commie!!
I wonder what term they'll come up with after TWist has run its course
>>2610761Invoking the past like a puppet and making it dance isn't an argument.
>>2610761Gibberish
>>2610793No. No one does.
>>2610778>>2610801Are you having trouble figuring out the argument presented in my post? It's pretty straight forward guys
>>2610800You disagree with my inclusion of campist on this list? How so?
>want to create a reddit account for a niche fandom posting
>account globally shadowbanned at first post, presumably as "spam bot"
>create a second account on my reserve email
>account globally shadowbanned at first post
>create a teritary email and create another account with VPN off (I usually have VPN on when browsing)
>account globally shadowbanned at first post
>create yet another email and create another account from reddit's phone app
>write to my friend living in a DIFFERENT COUNTRY and ask him to create an account from his home PC on my behalf
>friend reports that the account was globally shadowbanned before he could even transfer the control to me
>account globally shadowbanned at first post
>enlist mom's help by asking a temporary access to her email account
>create a reddit account on mom's email using the reddit's phone app run on my PC from an Android emulator
>account globally shadowbanned at first post
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I JUST WANNA TALK WITH A FELLOW FANS ABOUT MY SLIGHTLY AUTISTIC OBSESSION WHY DO YOU ALLOW NEO-NAZIS TO EVADE BANS LIMITLESSLY REDDIT BUT WOULD NOT EVEN ALLOW ME IN????!!!!!
>>2610992just comment instead of making a post until like 100 karma I guess ?
>>2610996Actually I had tried doing just that on a couple of these attempts (commenting instead of posting). It didn't make any difference.
>>2610992Are you a fan of Zootopia?
>>2610761You forgot opportunist, falsifier, denier, modernizer, reactionary
>>2611031No. In fact, I had never even watched it.
>>2611035No, I did not. Most of those are mostly used by leftcoms, who would be more unlikely to use words like tankie or campist, it's a different category of retard. They are the same in that they're both anticommunist, but they're using more marxist coded language and zingers from the lasagnalord
>>2611090Leftcom retards thing workers will spontaneously just gain ultra class consciousness and just combust into internationalist revolution and seize the MoP and cease commodity production, when there has been zero signs of it for like a century now and 99.9% of workers do not even know what any of this shit means.
They will then their superb organic centralism which is supposed to oversee and supervise things but the leftcom parties barely have 12 people with no connections to real workers at all.
Leftcoms are mentally ill.
>>2611108Trvke. Leftcom retards are actually workerist tailists in denial.
first capists
>>2611111now
>workeristshow long till I see marxist used dismissively/perjoratively.
can we talk about some shit that's actually happening? coffeezilla dropped a vid on the epstein shit, the ipad kids running the justice department f*cked up the redactions, and all the stuff that's coming out is heinous.
>>2611155fuck your coffeezilla, all yank rich men ar epodes we know that already
>>2611155but we've already klnown that the ruling class are satanic pedophiles for decades now
>>2611177Go from unfathomably fat to hyper fat, then get shot, all the while being an illegal alien: mfw I'll never be this american.
>>2611173You are 2 days too late
>>2611170Say what you will but a Demonrat admin would never release anything
>>2610909Lassalean 𝑁𝑖𝑔𝑔𝑒𝑟
>>2611155>how long till I see marxist used dismissively/perjoratively.You see it every time you see someone call anyone a TWist or campist or tankie
I wanna know the tendencies in leftypol
Please quick vote in this poll:
https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp7GDMDgM>>2611226
>she doesn't know about the wordfilters
typical jewish nigger
>>2611223
take your meds schizo
>>2611108Leftcoms don’t believe in “spontaneous revolution” or magic class consciousness. The basic Marxist point is that communism does not begin with a political seizure, but with the emergence of new social relations of production capable of reproducing society without capital.
That’s exactly how capitalism developed. Long before any capitalist state power, through concrete transformations in production (tenant farming, rent competition, market dependence) within feudal society.
Expecting communism to appear only after a party seizes power is the ahistorical error Marx explicitly criticised.
>“The mode of production of material life conditions the social, political and intellectual life process in general. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.” Marx, The German IdeologyPolitical organization does not create a new mode of production; it stabilizes and defends one that already exists.
A communist party, must derive its power from new economic subjects produced by new relations of production just as bourgeois parties arose from capitalists and wage workers generated by capitalism.
ML parties instead drew their base from workers (also soldiers and peasants) fully embedded in capitalist production, which is why their politics never escaped the capitalist mode of production in the first place.
>>2611324>Political organization does not create a new mode of production; it stabilizes and defends one that already existsthis is undialectical nonsense. we can decide to change things, assuming there is fertile ground for such changes
>>2611352"Fertile ground” isn’t a matter of will or abstract decision making, it’s the material relations of production that define what can actually exist.
You can’t just decree new social relations, you can only intervene in, accelerate, or defend transformations that are already emerging materially. Political work is reactive and consolidating, not generative in the sense you’re implying.
Capitalists didn't create capitalism once they achieved political power, they were a product of a new economic model, political power was established afterwards.
>>2611407>You can’t just decree new social relationsno one is saying this. what is possible is to change the rules. just like how private property was made a thing via enclosure. the way you do this is by seizing power and indeed decreeing that private property is no longer a thing. shrimple as
>>2611447'private property' is a social relation you mongrel
>>2611447Is this really what stands for ML understanding of economics?
Enclosure didn’t happen because someone “changed the rules” in the abstract. It was the political codification of already developing material realities. Dissolution of feudal obligations, monetization of rent, market dependence, surplus rural labour. The state ratified a transformation that was already underway.
Decrees don’t create new social relations by themselves, they only have force when they correspond to material relations that can actually reproduce themselves. That’s why “abolishing private property” by decree, without new productive relations to replace it is impossible.
Seizing power can accelerate or stabilize a transition, but it cannot substitute for the emergence of a new mode of production.
>>2611772Trump really has overseen the Bumfights-ification of burger rightoids
>>2612103Not gonna watch this but I'm gonna go ahead and assume he accidentally redpilled himself doing research for his GLADIO video
>>2612136the video is about how he tips every worker he can and thinks that redistribution of wealth is virtuous. im not familiar with his content, but he seems massively popular.
>>2612139>new rev and reve!!Holy shit lets goooooo. Only YTer i ever patreoned, because of the gaza vid.
Fuck Jesus, Adi Callai is new best Christmas man from occupied Palestine!
>>2611698myes but still there were real actual changes to law and so on. if you broke them the state would ultimately have you murdered. just like we will murder porky. you're making it more difficult than it is
>>2612139The Gaza ghetto uprising was really good, I recognized him immediately in this thumbnail even tho I only watched that video once when it came out like a year ago. I will definitely watch this one, thanks for notifying us anon
>>2612202You are an idiot.
>>2611320I immediately recognized its revolutionary potential when I saw a video of Fidel Castro fighting Reagan in a WWE match.
>>2612228That was the first piece of media not from the usual suspects (EI, etc.) after Oct7 that made me think, damn were not just going to descend In to liberalism with this, and more than thst he was uncompromisingly radical in their positions and arguments.
All his content is informative, went thru after that video popped off and leaned/was better able to formulate and articulate thoughts on the topics.
>>2611324>A communist party, must derive its power from new economic subjects produced by new relations of production>>2611407>it’s the material relations of productionnew relations of production require sufficient productive forces, which is exactly what ML are building. communist productive relations are predicated on a lack of scarcity which is materially conditioned by a quantitative change in productive forces leading to a qualitative change in relations of production, just like how the solidification of bourgeois right over devine right of kings was predicated on the invention of the steam engine
>You can’t just decree new social relations>Decrees don’t create new social relations by themselvesexcept that is exactly what ultras are demanding when they critique the soviets for "not abolishing commodity production". they very much precisely do in fact believe that socialism is a matter of passing a bill that says no more commodities and that the soviets consciously chose to betray the revolution by not doing so
>>2612255The bolshevik revolution was premature and doomed from the start but they couldn’t have known at the time
>>2610992Had the same happen to me. Every account I create is shadow banned instantly with no clue as to why
>>2612264it would have been fine if not for revisionism after stalin. unfortunately khreschev didn't understand dialectics and tried to stick to dogma in rhetoric after the material conditions changed while also compromising the base with his actions
>>2612272Revisionism happened precisely because the political party form has no inherent blocks to it
>>2612302>the political party form has no inherent blocks to itwhat would that even look like
>>2612269>>2612241Like the Stalin fighting Hitler one
>>2612303People with bad thoughts would explode as soon as they thought of revisionism
>>2611324>Long before any capitalist state power, through concrete transformations in production (tenant farming, rent competition, market dependence) within feudal society.As you just pointed out Feudal states backed those capitalist processes before capitalists officially took power. Meaning it was feudal state power that facilitated capitalism. And so socialism can also be facilitated through state power.
>Expecting communism to appear only after a party seizes power is the ahistorical error Marx explicitly criticised.Yeah, because it doesn't happen automatically. The state needs to actively push to get the boulder rolling.
>which is why their politics never escaped the capitalist mode of production in the first place.Simply killing the capitalist class and having workers collectively owning the economy means the economic system isn't fully capitalist anymore. Yes, they need to go further than just that but it is still a step out of capitalism. This is not higher phase communism you want but it's the beginning of the lower phase of communism Marx talked about which MLs call socialism.
>>2612264But it wasn't doomed from the start. It took several decades of bad leadership to sink the USSR and it could have been turned around at many points. The fact the CPC successfully did avoid this doom means it wasn't destined.
>>2612303The problem was insisting Democratic Centralism included unanimous party unity over possible factionalism. After revisionist take a single misstep it then becomes next to impossible to reverse it unless you have a military coup. Fix this to where the party can reverse bad decisions instead of pretending everyone agrees 100% with all past decisions.
>>2612310ai slop but the names got a laugh out of me
>>2612255The real issue you’re avoiding is when productive forces are sufficient. A century ago, in largely agrarian and semi-capitalist conditions, it made sense to argue that the task was basic industrialization. Capitalism was not yet the dominant mode of production.
But that argument cannot be extended indefinitely. If political power is exercised through capitalist relations, even if the social base is workers rather than capitalists, then the power of the state still derives from and reproduces the capitalist mode of production. At what point does quantitative growth stop being preparation and start being reproduction of capital?
Historical qualitative breaks don’t occur because productivity hits some abstract level, but because new productive capacities no longer fit the old relations. The steam engine mattered because it reorganized labour, coordination, and surplus extraction beyond what feudal relations could contain.
What is the equivalent rupture now? One possible answer is that globalized communication networks already make large scale, non market organization of labour technically possible. The barrier is no longer productive capacity, but the persistence of capitalist social relations.
And yes, some ultras have made the retarded argument that socialism is just a law abolishing commodities. That critique deserves to be mocked, but it is not representative of leftcom analysis, especially the communization variant, has always focused on material reproduction, not legislative fetishism.
>>2612517Feudal states did facilitate early capitalist processes, but they did so because those processes were already materially underway and provided revenue, military capacity, and administrative leverage the feudal order itself increasingly depended on. The state didn’t invent capitalism, it selectively enforced and generalized relations that were already becoming dominant. This is an important distinction.
The point is that state action can accelerate, protect, or generalize new relations, it cannot substitute for their material existence.
Killing the capitalist class does not abolish the capitalist mode of production if wage labour, value production, and accumulation persist. In Marx, a mode of production is defined by social relations, not by which class occupies managerial positions. Collective ownership administered through value relations is still capital.
The “lower phase of communism” Marx describes is already beyond commodity production and wage labour, even if distribution still reflects scarcity. Calling capitalist reproduction under workers management “socialism” doesn’t make it a transition out of capitalism, it makes it a different political form of capitalism.
That’s the historical question ML theory never resolves at what point does developing productive forces through capitalist relations stop being preparation and start being the reproduction of capital itself?
>>2612629>it cannot substitute for their material existence.When the state is the totality of all society, why not? If Marx thought communism could happen in his lifetime then why is it suddenly impossible now?
>In Marx, a mode of production is defined by social relations, not by which class occupies managerial positions.But without the bourgeoisie to stand in the way there is nothing to stop the worker controlled state from changing the MoP
>The “lower phase of communism” Marx describes is already beyond commodity production and wage labourHe was actually very vague. When he talked about it he didn't mention the elimination of commodity production specifically but was going on about rights and equality:
<But these defects are inevitable in the first phase of communist society as it is when it has just emerged after prolonged birth pangs from capitalist society. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm>That’s the historical question ML theory never resolves at what point does developing productive forces through capitalist relations stop being preparation and start being the reproduction of capital itself?It is basically impossible to eliminate commodity production when you need to deal with he rest of the world that still uses commodities. This is just an economic version of a similar argument anarchists have when they insist the USSR should have given up the state organization of economy and have no hierarchy in the military to achieve communism before actually winning.
>>2612693
Leftcom above just argued ML states are incapable of changing the MoP and need to wait for it to happen naturally. Your post seems to imply the opposite?
Bros does anyone have a good viedo essay to watch
Arlo, the Nintendo puppet, is now worried about the transfer of wealth from the poor and working class to the rich.
>>2612654Who said it's impossible? I believe it is possible. The state being "the totality of society", by this you mean the nationalization of industry. Has nothing to do with alternative social relations of production.
Political power reflects the economic mode of production and the class whom it represents, in ML States it unusually represented the exploited working class, but nevertheless the political apparatus is connected to capitalism and relies on it to maintain influence.
I'll agree he was vague on the lower phase of communism, but it is clear he believed it was a structurally qualitative transformation. Not the simple nationalization of industry.
>“Between the individual and society there stands only the producers’ association, and this association has the ownership of the means of production in common.” - Marx, Critique of Gotha Program >"In a society which has advanced to this stage of development, the producers do not exchange their products." - Marx, Critique of Gotha Program Yes we live in a global economy, communism is not a national project to be realized within the boundaries of nation states. I am not arguing some retarded anarchist moral point on abolishing hierarchy and military. I am substituting economic organization for political capture as primacy of the realization of communism.
Without underlying new communist economic relations of production, the party can do nothing but alter the rules of capitalism to be more favourable to workers, or in pre capitalist societies develop the means of production to the point a communist economic model is possible.
Neither of which constitute the desired transformation. New economic relations, which can sustain itself seperate from capital must be developed, the parties role is to accelerate and defend the growing economy, not to institute it from above by decree.
>>2612713I think you are talking to a different poster, but regardless in never claimed it will happen "naturally". Technological development alters the organizational capabilities of humanity. This can be planned, not just spontaneous.
Basically MLs get so caught up in political power questions they forget what communism is about. We are beyond the stage of needing to develop the productive forces in pre capital societies, adjust your strategies or remain irrrelevant.
>>2612689What the FOK does this greek-austalian-argentine bearded sloptuber know about anything anyway?
>>2612716We gotcha fam:
>>2612139Or watch the vid Gaza Ghetto Uprising vid if you didn't see it.
>>2612264Imagine being this much of a Menshevik in the year of our lord 2025 lmao
>>2612736Mensheviks won.
Seethe and cope Leninoid.
>>2612746Very funny anon 😂
Happy Xmas! Feeling nostalgic for the 420chan jingle and snow.
>>2612748<Long live our fraternal parties! (Prolonged applause.)
<Long life and health to the leaders of the fraternal parties! (Prolonged applause.)
<Long live the peace between the peoples!
<(Prolonged applause.)
<Down with the arsonists of war! (Everyone stood up. Stormy, prolonged applause that became an ovation. There were shouts of "Long live Comrade Stalin!" "Long live the great leader of the working people of the world, Comrade Stalin!" "The, great Stalin!" "Long live peace between the peoples!")Banger for sure
>>2612689It looks like by the end of this conflict they are gonna pull the rug under western audiences as they did with linguistic shibboleths and neonazi symbology.
if you go to places like:
https://www.kyivpost.com/https://www.pravda.com.ua/ or their hilarious "historical" Pravda project (picrel)(
https://www.istpravda.com.ua/articles/2021/01/27/158890/)
It's like they are replaying the iron curtain script in complete denial of the last half century and, like, all of modern information technology. They got all these people, who obviously I'm not academically qualified to critique, spouting Gehlen organization takes with the occasional woke slop to wash it all down.
Yous average MSM enjoyer is gonna talk like the Nazoids, but guilelessly, earnestly believing the cold war fascist slop because it's the new virtuous thing to say and more importantly, they never experience any of the tensions of upholding that stuff. The average "supOOOOrter" never goes to war, never gets "foreign policy-ed" by a greater power and never has to actually live with the fascists their governments install abroad.
Cockshott video be lyk audiorel
https://twitter.com/catastrop_h_ic/status/2003795353838272732#m>basic ass communist take on intellectual property<You cannot be older than 12 bruh<Some of the most exploited workers in the capitalist system are artists and musicians<The most stupid ppl saying they don't believe in IP so they can steal artists work, make porn of it, do irreversible ecological damage<The much-maligned profit incentive funds R&D departments to do all kinds of crazy expensive shit<A temporary monopoly in exchange for advancing humanity's interests is a good deallook at our leftoids dawg
>>2612759He thinks China is capitalist.
Dropped
>>2613102You fucked up by going on twitter to begin with
The revolution happens in TruthSocial
>>2613182Brandon Overrated Kak Torres
>>2613183the revolution will be retruthed
>>2612517>After revisionist take a single misstep it then becomes next to impossible to reverse it unless you have a military coup. Fix this to where the party can reverse bad decisions instead of pretending everyone agrees 100% with all past decisions.but china is demcent
>>2612629>What is the equivalent rupture now? its computers. the global economy has been running on fumes since the 70s.
>>2612629>Historical qualitative breaks don’t occur because productivity hits some abstract level, but because new productive capacities no longer fit the old relations. its the same thing. sedentary agriculture leads to a surplus of food changing social relations, steam engine leads to surplus commodities changing social relations. computerized automation leads to changing social relations. the problem is uneven development and lack of revolutionary consciousness in the most developed countries and relative development of communist countries to hostile imperialist ones.
>The real issue you’re avoiding is when productive forces are sufficient.I'm not. Full communism is predicated on a post-scarcity economy.
>>2609682Sorry to say but the Third World is worse and has brought destruction upon itself.
t. Thirdie Pajeet
>>2613185resentful ACPoid detected
>>2613222You will still flee to the West, so I've still won, no matter how self-hating you are :^)
>>2612726>by this you mean the nationalization of industry. Has nothing to do with alternative social relations of production. I'm saying having control of industry (nationalization) is the first step to transformation (alternative social relations of production.) You can't actively change how production works without first controlling the MoP first.
>communism is not a national project to be realized within the boundaries of nation states. That's the issue. You can't completely change everything when most the world is still capitalist and we don't have complete control over human affairs. That was the reason Stalin explicitly gave for keeping commodity production in his 1951 pamphlet Economic Problems of Socialism. However he argues for continuing to move the economic system towards fully realizing communism step by step as was technologically and politically possible. It was Khrushchev who back pedaled with his market reforms.
>the parties role is to accelerate and defend the growing economy>not to institute it from above by decree.Not sure what the difference is exactly. If you control the MoP, the workers, the economy, society as a whole and you have the technological capability, then essentially it is "decrees" from the controlling part of the body that changes how the body functions.
>This can be planned, not just spontaneous.I fully agree with this statement. But it seems to clash with your earlier assertion economic change can't be imposed from above. Can you clarify?
>Basically MLs get so caught up in political power questions they forget what communism is about. Most anti-revisionist MLs agree things got off track long ago and often point towards Khrushchev. However I also point toward the structure of Democratic Centralism as being part of the blame allowing revisionists to hijack the Party in the fist place.
>>2613215Demcent makes policies harder to reverse. So when you are right you keep going correctly but when you are wrong you can crash.
Demcent lead to Khrushchevite revisionism being forced on the entire party, derailing USSR for decades allowing many weaknesses to pile up. All it took was Glasnost to show it. On the other hand CPC Demcent did not derail to the same extent because of Mao fighting Khrushchevite revisionism. They also didn't have Glasnost allowing them to hide weakness.
>>2613231Idgaf about ACP screeching retards
I also dgaf about your sloptuber
https://ofpatmos.substack.com/p/fight-jewish-exceptionalismBadEmpanada's first substack article.
Fight Jewish Exceptionalism
Anti-Zionists need to attack Israel as they would any other settler colonial ethnostate. This means treating Jews equally rather than as sacrosanct.
>>2613468billions must uphold the anti-Yakubian perspective
https://twitter.com/jacobin/status/2004190396109173179#m
>pic of marx and jesus together>tweet by jacobinoh no
<The conventional understanding of Marxism as doggedly anti-religious is wrong.oh no
<In fact, as philosopher (…) arguedoh no…
<Christianity and Marxism have at times inspired in humanity a radical sense of hope to build a more just worldbruh
>>2613259No I won't. I'll stay here and drown with this ship. At least I'll have the satisfaction of watching it all go down.
>>2613560Extremely weak Christoid tricknology.
>>2612139he spends a ton of time shitting on organizers of palestine protests for trying to identify agents provocateurs. anarchist try not to marginalize a mass movement by non-consensually escalating conflict with authorities in spite of the consensus of protestors challenge: impossible.
I'll never understand the anarchist impulse to infiltrate non-violent mass movements and use them as cover for vandalism. I don't even disapprove of vandalism, I just don't know why they don't just do it on their own time.
Eugenics kun might be a schizo but he is unironically right about Germanics. The more northern the European country the more depraved the people are. There's a hitler particle in all of them.
>>2613863>he spends a ton of time shitting on organizers of palestine protests for trying to identify agents provocateursCorrect though. If you're doing that you are playing straight into the hands of the state and its counterinsurgency strategies.
>>2613220>It's computers Yeah I fundamentally agree, but ultimately I believe it is social networking that ultimately enables alternative mass organization of productive labour outside market relations.
>It's the same thingSee this is where you have it backwards. The social relations of production that created sedentary agriculture, or the social relations of the factories (which was made possible due to rent price competition of tenant farmers in English agriculture) created alternate class structures, that later led to political ratification.
You have it that we invented some technology, which created surplus, that then changed the social relations. The social relations changed immediately, when people started practicing agriculture, it was a qualitative break.
>Full communism is predicated on post scarcity economyYes, and when do you arbitrarily decide it at that point? We are already there, the need to develop the productive further before a qualitative break has already happened.
>>2613318>Nationalization is the first stepWhy would that be necessary? Communist economic relations don't need to start on highly developed industrial productive technology, oppositely it should be practiced and developed in low stakes productive spheres, where capitalism is failing to provide adequately.
Capitalism did not start by seizing the feudal political apparatus, in fact, capitalism began with competitive rents in English agriculture. Driving productivity and market dependency on the increasingly proletarianized rural work force.
>Stalin, economic constraints No one is denying external constraints. The issue is how they are theorized. Stalin’s argument explains why commodity production persisted, it does not explain how it was supposed to be overcome. When capitalist relations are justified indefinitely on the basis of external pressure, the transition loses any internal orientation.
Marx’s point was not that communism requires “complete control over human affairs”, but that a communist society must be able to reproduce itself on non capitalist foundations. If internal reproduction (I don't mean within national project but general communist project) remains governed by value and wage labour, then external trade isn’t a constraint, it’s simply an excuse for reproducing capitalism domestically.
>Not sure what the difference is, spontaneity vs planningOkay long answer
Planning does not require the state to become the total owner of production. Planning means consciously organizing production and coordination on the basis of new material capacities, technologies and practices. Those can and historically do emerge within the prior mode of production, just as capitalist relations emerged inside feudalism.
When I say the party should accelerate and defend a growing economy, I mean it should generalize and protect new non capitalist relations that are already materially viable. That’s different from trying to impose them administratively while production still runs on wage labour, value, and accumulation. Control over the MoP gives administrative leverage, but it doesn’t itself create new social relations.
This doesn’t mean “waiting” or spontaneity. Technological development absolutely alters humanity’s organizational capacity, for me global networked communication is crucial in organization practices of 21st communism. The point is that these capacities can be organized before and beyond total nationalization. Making the state the universal owner can actually freeze those capacities into capitalist forms, because the state’s power is still derived from capitalist reproduction.
That’s also where the contradiction comes in if a party’s power rests on managing capitalist production, then instituting a new economic base means undermining the very source of its power. Nationalization isn’t neutral, it creates its own structural incentives to preserve capitalism.
Economic change can be consciously planned without being imposed from above. Planning coordinates practices, decrees substitute for them. Marx’s point is that social relations are transformed through how production is actually organized, not simply by who holds political control.
That’s why I’m saying ML strategy remains trapped in political capture, while communism is fundamentally about economic reorganization. We are past the historical moment where “develop the productive forces first” explains everything, clinging to it just reproduces capitalism under new management.
Attempting to impose new economic relations from above is unnecessary, structurally contradictory, and politically unpopular. A state whose power rests on managing capitalist production is unlikely to risk its position by instituting a new base; more likely it will shift the goalposts and stress external constraints.
>KruschevBlaming individuals for structural issues is idealism. "If only we had the right man for the job", similar to liberal framework.
>>2613893
Would you say theescelations to building occupations and factory decommissioning 'shits up the movement'?
Houngry
This article is excellent it has endless amounts of data to prove this. I feel some would get too butthurt to even read it but I hope one of you passerby people does. Bad empanada liked it btw. It has several other articles breaking this one down into pieces as well if you prefer that instead on this guy's sub stack.
https://tariqacknickulous.substack.com/p/no-jews-today-are-not-oppressed
>Jews Are NOT Oppressed: The Myth of Systemic Antisemitism
>Jews today are not a systemically oppressed group; they are extremely privileged. Antisemitism is not systemic oppression. This narrative only serves Zionism.Hope someone likes it
>>2613902
I can't really be clearer here. What doesn't help is that the original 'critique' is jut vageposting and seething.
If one would make decent arguments instead of pretending like were on twitter with Charlimits and 'le epic dunk and le based ratio'-culture then perhaps I could be clearer, having something to actually work with.
Mods, permaban chagos poster.
>>2613938>I feel some would get too butthurt to even read it Not exactly controversial or new information, at least for the left.
>>2614105i enjoy him but he is also surrounded by pseudo-intellectuals
>>2614105Emigre, dilettate-intellectual, unreliable.
>>2614124
>watched the video for maybe 30 seconds
>gimmick
Oh you mean the same language that's still used today in serious academic circles in an attempt to describe the mute, invisible, and unmeasured aspects and flows that actually lead to material change in society?
>>2614129MODS PERMABAN THIS DELEUZE GUATTARIAN NOMADIC WARMACHINE RHIZOMATIC MODERNIZER, NOW!!!
>>2614129>used in academic circlesThat's not a good thing
>>2614129GO BACK TO /DEAD/
>>2614129>>watched the video for maybe 30 secondsoh? is there a rule against commentating on a video you just started watching?
>Oh you mean the same languageby "zizek burying it under 30 tons of dirt" i mean that zizek has demonstrated that you can invoke lacan's ghost to say literally whatever, it's so choice that it's lingo that describes the "mute, invisible and unmeasured", don't you think? not saying that it's useless, but also that everyone will probably raise an eyebrow because it lends itself so well to fraudulent rhetoric. having said that, i feel genuinely respectful for anyone insisting on leveraging it.
fuck i deleted my other post i'm going back to sleep
>>2614146>is there a rule against commentating on a video you just started watching?Oh so we need rules now to avoid being rude to someone (me) who was legitimately stoked to see someone they follow giving a rare interview? Fascist…
>you can use lacan's ghost to say literally whateverI feel you there. It does come across as psychobabble bullshit but I think that when it's used in good faith to legitimately try and grasp the zeitgeist, it's permissible. Also she's a woman, and lacan is just astrology for girls who read theory. Let her cook.
>>2614161the co-host of Trueanon, pretty much the only significant/legitimate communist podcast for an american audience. This is ISG I would have expected you guys who know who she is but I guess you're all too cool for it or something
The problem with psychoanalytic bullshit is that it has no pathway to praxis
And any theory that has no praxis is wrong by defailt because how are you going to verify it?
>>2614169Aren't they radlibs like chapo
And wasn't it founded by a fed who was a mercenary for the US and killed syrians
>>2614173>aren't they radlibsno lmao. And chapo aren't radlibs.
>fed mercenary killing syriansyou really just believe whatever you hear don't you?
Man this website is full of the dumbest people who are irreverent for no reason lmao
Chapo are radlibs and true anon is opportunist.
>>2614178what does that make leftypol?
>>2614179Leftypol is an imageboard, not a podcast or influencer and therefore doesnt have a political line or ideology or whatever
>>2614181oh so the people here are even less relevant?
>>2614169Ah this shitty podcast
I tried to listen to it once but it was boring and uninteresting
And no im not american
>>2614177>P..pls care about my favorite podcasters!!Lol
>>2614177By what metric are truanon "communists"?
Also didn't chapo endorse that nazi tattoo guy a month or so ago
>>2614185Getting clout and stripes?
>>2614177Chapo certainly are radlibs, straight radical posturing. Just like all Americans.
>>2613889>Blaming individuals for structural issues is idealismOpportunism and revisionism are structural issues.
>>2614232No, they are doctrinal issues
i think chris hedges might be my favourite leftist
>>2614185US IMPERIALISM burger (imperial core) "leftism"
>>2614177>chapo aren't radlibsupvoted
>>2614245there are incentive structures that economically stimulate opportunistic and revisionistic elements
>>2614102Damn, I can’t believe doomscroll would interview the virulent anti-semitic polish nationalist, Liz Franczak
>>2613893I'd say that when there is a peaceful mass demonstration it's perfectly fine for protest marshalls to separate the edgy loner with no friends, no phone, a hammer, bottle of milk, zipties, and fox tail buttplug from families. the footage he found of PSL surrounding an anarchist was exactly that: fuck off tacticool weirdo we don't know you.
psl had an affinity group and unity of tactics. that wrecker did not.
>>2613867see above. speaking of counter insurgency why does this modern day lassallian finish up by calling to scope out the power grid like feds here and amongst the fascists do? is there some special counter terrorism law about the power grid?
>>2613900I don't disapprove of these tactics when activists engage them of their own volition. I do disapprove of "anarchist" wreckers deliberately baiting violent reprisals from the cops.
liz franczak is a fed.
>>2614173> mercenary for the US and killed syriansISIS but yeah.
>>2613889>I fundamentally agreeo ok. yeah i think computers seriously push down the rate of profit and increase contradictions
>The social relations changed immediately, when people started practicing agriculture, it was a qualitative break.i thought there was a lag. fuedalism hung on for centuries after industrialization. but how can u really know for prehistory
>and when do you arbitrarily decide it at that point?its not arbitrary. take china for example. they have to balance increasing qol with national defense from imperialism. it happens when all basic needs are met through surplus and distribution can occur according to need due to lack of scarcity. i expect it will happen sector by sector, like first food, then housing, and luxeries will remain market distributed until full communism
>We are already therei mean in a sense we are internationally, but not nationally, and the surplus is held by imperialists. if the west went commie tomorrow yeah we could plan a redistribution that fulfills everyone, but thats not what we have, instead the least developed nations went commie first and will likely have to prove themselves through trial by fire until the first world gets so jealous of abundance they revolt
we only think they can press the button now because they have just overcome absolute poverty, yes its in the cards but the priority is still defense
>Blaming individuals for structural issues is idealism. its less the individual and more what he represents
>>2614189well they are not chapo
though i do agree they have lost their edge due to patreon comfy
>>2614260I think he's easily the weakest kind of radlib, crying crocodile tears about how america has lost its way and abandoned it's laws and values to be a fascist empire. brother, when has the US ever applied its values universally? when has it not been the violent oppressor? what golden age of enlightened liberal democracy are you referring to chris???
posting some quality in this thread
Who Controls American Media and How is Israel Involvedby uncivilized
Four corporations dominate American media and influence the information consumed by the majority of the world. This video by Salem breaks down how consent is manufactured, how TikTok disrupted the system, and why it was forced back into line. From media consolidation to propaganda, this is how power communicates…and how Israel is connected to it all.
Follow uncivilized on social media:
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>>2614102That's crayzeeeee
>>2614447wow_mao and yugopnik crossover? a video about slurs? and they didn't bring nick mullen in? damn…
>>2614447The long awaited balaclava boys colab
>>2614447finally some good theory
>>2614179Knee jerk contrarian left
>>2614179The
REAL movement
>>2614434>Feudalism hung on for centuriesYou are confusing feudalism as an economic mode of production, and feudalist control of the political apparatus.
The distinction is absolutely massive and a huge reason current praxis fails so hard.
>>2614588they know their target audience. can you blame them?
>>2614531>You are confusing feudalism as an economic mode of production, and feudalist control of the political apparatus.no i dont think so. first industrialization, then consolidation of capital, then political power. its not a single factory is built and then suddenly the mode of production changes, especially if you still have most people as artisan craftsman or smallholders producing for use instead of for exchange.
if a nation like china still has most people producing for exchange, its not because of a bad political choice but because of the limits of production relative to the population and productive forces. they literally still had/have people living with dirt floors until like last week
>>2614592Mocking non-whites for worshipping Euroids is good actually.
>>2614177>some drunk deadbeat of a father who tells people to vote blue no matter who and biden is the lesser of the two evils is not a radlib Topkek
I might have changed the course of history of inceldom forever.
I was browsing websites the other day about criminals and found those that you can have pen pals that are criminals and it was neat to look at their introductions that are so sweet then you see they literally did a homicide. So I made a thread on /pol/ about it and now it is on thread #2. It appears some users there are even willing to message or mail a letter to the prisoner women. I may have saved some incels and given prisoner women entertainment
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/524418880#bottomhttps://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/524405276#p524405276Check it out
The Minaj is making a song on Der Kirk with Erikkka.
On the tune of the tradwife anthem, WAP, together:
There's some Zios in this house, there's some Zios in this house
I said JD's a freak, Erica or the Jeet
Wet Ass Charlie, make that Turning Point tweak!
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