>>2152503Madone what's wrong with you getting all that rabid. Still, you didn't understand what I meant. I didnt say that women look for dudes that make more money because they themselves are poor. If I had said or implied that then your response would make sense.
What I say is that women look for dudes with money because of the way relationships work in capitalism and because of our current superstructure. Out of that you made up a very personal interpretation that was easy for you to attack and that you likely feel very strongly about, something like a strawman but I wouldn't say it's quite precisely that.
And while you are not retarded you are very angry right now and need to relax.
>>2152510What I say is that women look for dudes with money because of the way relationships work in capitalism and because of our current superstructure.
actually men look for women who are men because of the submarinism of our ecological underpinnings of our economy. Think again retard.
>>2152517If you understand what the words mean then it's not difficult to figure out.
Right now, everything is a status symbol, and all relationships are transactional. The same way having a hot girlfriend is a status symbol for dudes, having a rich bf is a status symbol for a girl. And the more status symbols you have, the higher you can feel on any given hierarchy (and people are hierarchy-minded for reasons that I don't really think I have to explain). Women look for dudes with money because having a poor bf would make them feel more shame and inferiority the more poisoned by the zeitgeist they are, the same way it's shameful for dudes to be with a fat girl.
And people that see this bullshit for what it is are usually capable of being less influenced by it all, so this isn't a "woman thing" but a "we live in a society honka honka honka" thing.
>>2152534 (You) (You)
My pimp game is so amazing every pimp and giggolo wants to use me as bait. But I don't like manipulating people. This one 6 ft something player spontaneously swore fealty to me even. I know I can get an endless pack of wolves as long as I throw them bitches.
>>2152558I don't get these people. They upload like 500 videos a day to an audience of basically nobody. Is it really
that profitable?
Also loling at them describing "Woke" as a "movement"
>>2152671black nationalism in south africa isnt the same as white nationalism
they are also trots so internationalists
>>2152668Age is just a number.
But for real tho I hope you've been saving up money and also you should get a better job. I've heard a lot of people that said they moved out of America in their 30s say it turned their life around.
>>2152558Video games and politics
A powerful combination
>>2152702EFF has no idea what jackson is or a cia op has been planted there
EFF is trotskyists and support LGBT which is the opposite of jackson
>>2152668Start writing socialist fiction. It doesn't have to be good quality, it will help you regardless and we need more of it. Just start writing, join a writing group maybe (but don't join a critique group or you will want to kill yourself)
Just make something. It will be hard but it will make you feel better.
Make new friends. I think often standard male friendships aren't very intimate and this is a massive problem for men, much bigger than evil misandrist feminazis or whatever.
IDK if this is something you already do, but start going on protests. Put yourself out there. Even if the protests don't do anything it will be valuable experience in lots of ways and will make you feel like you're doing something.
Play a cool game like rain world or just any game that's really cathartic.
Come to Britain, we need more people willing to actually organize who aren't trots
Maybe change your ideology. I'm not saying this is necessarily the right thing to do and obviously I have an ulterior motive here, so you can decide if this is really the best thing for you and if its not then don't bother.
But if you are dissatisfied with CPUSA maybe look into reading the collected works of the PCP, works of the CPI(Maoist), Ajith, J. Moufawad Paul.
(Sorry for sounding like a missionary)
>>2152564That's disgusting
Link?
>>2152735Keep soying out over personal opinions
Did you also soy out when Galloway interviewed Andrew Tate?
>>2152760>>2152735No one cares about your fucking discord.
Kill yourself.
>>2152758No one can help you now. Real recognizes real. You're probably not even in an org
>>2152760Super based if true.
>>2152743>Your white fragility will not tone police EFF. It's funny to me how they flip into this on a dime when criticized. Makes me think that's a reason why a lot of leftists online are attracted to Malema's image too because he leans into that as a trolling-the-white-people thing and he's got so much rizz, and then they have Hinkle onto their podcast. It's just making fools out of them.
If anyone wants criticism of the EFF from the left, I'd just read articles from the SACP which has long described them as a demagogic and shallow populist formation. Initially a right-wing populist faction of the ANC's youth wing that has origins in an aspiring and parasitic bourgeois strata who had been frozen out of the loot during the neoliberal turn of Thabo Mbeki. This is called tenderpreneurism. The left (which they consider to be themselves and COSATU) were marginalized, but joined with Zuma who suggested an anti-neoliberal agenda (state-led industrialization and infrastructure projects) but it was a contradictory coalition. The right-populists and Malema specifically were brought to heel, so he bolted and formed this left-wing populist thing, or what appears to look like left-wing populism.
https://www.sacp.org.za/content/african-communist-1st-quarter-2021-issue-no-204Anyways, the party has been declining over the past year. They underperformed in the elections and saw members bolting to Zuma's MK party.
>>2152724Seems true
Yes, the British supported Native American tribes in their conflicts against the United States at various times, particularly during the late 18th and early 19th centuries. This was part of Britain's broader strategy to weaken the U.S. and maintain influence in North America.
Key Instances:
1. American Revolutionary War (1775–1783): The British supplied weapons, ammunition, and support to several Native American tribes, including the Iroquois Confederacy, Shawnee, and Cherokee, to resist American expansion.
2. Northwest Indian War (1785–1795): After the U.S. gained independence, Britain continued to support Native resistance in the Ohio Valley by supplying arms to the Western Confederacy, a coalition of tribes. This culminated in the Battle of Fallen Timbers (1794), where Native forces, backed by the British, were defeated by the U.S.
3. War of 1812 (1812–1815): Britain actively allied with Native American forces, particularly under Tecumseh's Confederacy. The British supplied Tecumseh’s forces with weapons and coordinated attacks against American settlements. However, after Tecumseh's death in 1813 and the British defeat, Native resistance weakened significantly.
The British used Native American alliances as a strategic tool to counter U.S. expansion but abandoned their Native allies after losing key conflicts.
>>2152908It's mysoginy, he doesn't see her as a partner but as s piece of meat he uses as a cum dumpster, he was literally parading her as a trophy
I don't know why she even subjected herself to that…
>>2152981>I don't know why she even subjected herself to thatShe's probably an exhibitionist and was getting off to it. That wasn't the only time she went out naked, she has been accused of sending employees porn and even got investigated by Venice police for public indecency at one point lol
>>2153053Yeah, she would be at least 3X as fat and black dude wouldn't be ripped gangster he would be a skinnyfat geek with glasses.
>>2152908
>Is this some hotwife wifeVery likely. Kanye's cuckhold fetish is well-known because he makes all his fetish's very public. He likes to be the cuck, he likes to cuck others, he comes at it from all directions. He hires pornstars with huge dicks to fuck his wife (he "got" a pornstar, Dredd, who actually has a dick so huge it is literally an elphantisis-like birth defect, to fuck his girlfriend, I forgot which one it might have been Bianica, for Valentines day.) He likes to imagine he's cucking his wife with some other guy using his BBC.
He's a notorious sex and porn addict and showing porn to others and making fetishisitc demands on his female associates, such as wearing specific lingere, jacking off on the phone with them, sending them pictures of his dick, and him and other people fucking. He forces collaborators to watch porn with him and opening talks about his porn addiction on Jimmy Kimmel (or maybe it was Fallon).
And to reiterate yes he's really really into cuck stuff.
>>2153159I don't but he literally call it his Big Black Cock.
>“See my problem is I be wanting to fuck but then after I fuck I want a girl to tell me how hard they been fucked while I’m fucking them. Then I want her to cheat on me …” Other text messages allegedly read: “Is my dick racist? It is. This fucking racist dick of mine. I going to beat this fucking racist dick for being fucking racist. I’m going to stare at pictures of white woman with black asses and beat the shit out of my racist dick … Beating the shit out of his big black cock.” But, also, and I realize that it's weird that I know this but I do, he super size conscious and hates pictures of it where it looks small, which is probably most of them because he has like something like anorexia-vision for his cock I'm sure.
>>2153159I just looked him up its not that big
Like big for porn movies and stuff but hes got a shit load of fish eye angles and stuff.
>>2153171Oh I meant Kanye West's cock no Ddred's
I always wanted to see Ye's cock
>>2152714>guess this means Molotov is a fascist too>Fuck the red fascist Soviet UnionRight after that they tag teamed Poland (I know they're "genetically evil" or whatever you guys say) and Stalin was fully expecting to ride with Nazi Germany all the way until they take over the European powers. That Hakim/Maupin fantasy that it was just a necessary action to stall while Stalin built the Marvel Avengers is so historically inaccurate it drives me crazy.
There's a reason these Stalin-stan MLs like the ACP (fuck your stupid ordinance you don't enforce) act the way they do.
>>2153373Emotional nonsense. Nazis invaded Poland and that was on Sept. 1-3rd 1939. Soviets offered Poland aid, which was refused.
USSR actually moved in after September 17th to protect fraternal ethnic populations, weeks later. At this point, the fascist Polish government ministers abdicated, and had not set up a government-in-exile by about September 14th to 15th in 1939. How can you "invade" no man's land and stateless territory?
Polish Marshal Rydz-Smigly explicitly ordered the Polish Army not to fight against Soviets, because Polish command did not see USSR as co-belligerent with Nazis. Neither did the Polish troops, or the League of Nations for that matter. Churchill was in full support. Because it wasn't a "joint invasion" and USSR did not collaborate with or help Nazis. In fact, USSR prevented Nazis from murdering millions there
Also, this territory was stolen by Poland when the fascist Pilsudski invaded in 1920 and committed pogroms there, which is why Churchill supported USSR asserting its decades-old "Curzon Line" claim from the First World War period. Hence why it's still not part of Poland today.
Your historical "facts" come from history.com. You've embarrassed yourself, fascist.
>>2153495I can accept a realpolitk argument for the M-R pact but I'm not sure it turned out to be a very intelligent chess move by Stalin honestly, because the Nazis had a free hand to invade France which collapsed in a month. Okay, nobody expected that would happen so fast, but Hitler then could deploy his full army with European industry under his control at Russia. The invasion of Poland happened a week after they signed the pact, so it seems to me like it emboldened Hitler and made him stronger, which was not good. Fidel Castro made this argument. Also why the fuck would you ever make a deal with the Nazis.
To be fair, the Western countries tried to do that too. Actually everybody thought they could work it to their advantage but it blew up in everybody's faces. The reality is that nobody wanted a war except the Nazis, and eventually, you'd have to fight them. There was no other choice in the end because they were lunatics.
As a sidequest, this was disastrous for Western communist parties too because now their countries are at war with the Nazis while the USSR is at peace with the Nazis. And they followed the Soviet line in everything, so suddenly they started sounding like those Duran guys except it's Hitler who is for peace and Churchill is for war. If you had joined one of these communist parties in the past few years because that was the most anti-fascist thing to do, it would've been completely baffling.
>>2153571Man I’ve given up on dating apps and I’m not gonna risk stepping on anyone’s toes or being called a creep. Besides I’ve got nothing in common with women. So yeah, this is just another shitty holiday where customers fuck up my store looking for flowers.
Only question is if I can get cheap hooch today.
>>2151356>given how “anti-woke” seems bigger among games consumersWhich games consumers?
It’s not the 80s; “gamer” is no longer a monolithic block. The overall game industry now is much closer in shape to something like the music industry, where there’s several different demographics with relatively little overlap in consumption habits. People who play games like Pizza Tower and Binding of Issac probably don’t play games like Call of Duty and Battlefield, and people who play Call of Duty and Battlefield probably don’t play Angry Birds or Candy Crush.
And honestly, I think that, more than anything, was what Gamergate was rebelling against; the feeling that something that was formally “theirs” now belonged to everyone, and now need not appeal to them specifically. If you read between the lines, a lot of it is them trying to cope the old order of things back into existence; a lot of “you should be making games for me and only me!”, with everything else just being an abstraction on top of that.
>>2151356>>2151360>>2151432Apparently it was a) a thing they already did, and b) was the removal of all non-federal holidays, regardless of politics. I’m willing to believe them, because Juneteenth is still there.
>>2151468In my experience, memes generally follow a pretty predictable life-cycle:
They start as a funny image/clip/phrase, that funny image/clip/phrase becomes a community-wide inside joke, that inside joke spreads to other communities surrounding that community, then to the communities surrounding those communities, and from there spreads into the wider internet, becoming ubiquitous. Eventually, you reach the point where people run out of interesting things to do with the meme, and it begins stagnating, leading to it either gradually fading out or rapidly dying as everyone decides they’re sick of it. After a while, the meme sees a resurgence, but it’s in a greatly reduced capacity, never quite fading out of the public consciousness, but also never again reaching anything near the cultural clout that it had at its peak ever again.
Not everything fits into this timeline perfectly, but Wojaks and their variants definitely do, and right now, we’ve hit stagnation. They’re definitely still around, but we’ve reached the point where they’ve become predictable and boring, and you’re allowed to admit that they’re predictable and boring without getting shit for it.
>>2152972The anti-woke crowd has always been roughly split into two groups: the kind of people who like Asmongold and Joe Rogan, and the kind of people who like Sam Hyde and Nick Fuentes. The former, much larger group is getting everything it ever wanted, and is now more-or-less content with the way things are going. This leaves the latter, much smaller group to stew in its own juices and become more and more schizoid.
>>2153601Man I wish it was just jackasses asking for products, there’s also the sheer destruction and rudeness. An older coworker of mine had someone slam a cart into their side and huff “YOURE IN MY WAY”. I explained to a customer that we only carry a Christmas product for our winter season and she huffed “ITS WINTER RIGHT NOW”
>>2153602It’s not based, just a surrender. I’ve had enough of exploitative dating apps, and we’re simultaneously in a weird place where a guy approaching women is creepy and impolite but women approaching men is too much work, so nothing really happens.
>>2153674What's more, the appeal page informs me that my account isn't suspended.
That's strange, I wonder if someone is surveilling my internet connection!
>>2153670the first residues of beverage dated 7000 BCE in China.
From wikipedia "Archaic Homo sapiens, the forerunner of anatomically modern humans, evolved in the Middle Paleolithic between 400,000 and 250,000 years ago."
>>2153661See is Grindr just for gay dudes or lesbians too? Either way I think the LGBT community is just more open to some kind of do or die approach to dating, right? Be forward with what you want and get either a yes or no.
It feels like with hetero dating there’s something like, a hundred different versions of what’s considered “acceptable” and all of them are contradictory, often with one person’s conception of “acceptable” being another’s sexual harassment. Like approaching at bars for example, I had it beaten over my head that if a woman is intoxicated she can’t consent, so why would I try to approach a woman there? Even if she’s not intoxicated at the moment, she could be later, so what if the whole things a waste of time and you get blasted as a creep on social media? Shit, don’t even get started with work—that’s a talk with HR and potentially losing your job. Then there’s that meme about the ugly guy and the hot guy both telling some chick at work she looks good, and I’ve seen women unironically say “Well if you’re ugly you should know better than trying to approach.”
Okay, well what if you just think you’re ugly? I’ve been told I look good a couple times but I don’t feel it, at all. Some women want to be pursued, others want no to mean no (and that’s what I default to)
Shit it’s not even like a “the worst she can do is say no” thing anymore. You just give a girl your number and next thing you know it’s blasted on Instagram—“this creepy guy tried asking us out!” So yeah, I think Grindr works cause it’s mostly LGBT; I think any attempt to make an equivalent for straight people would fail.
>>2153661calling grindr a
dating app feels a bit inaccurate, it's way more of a hook up app
>>2153753Yeah, it was in my rotation for a while but it's been so enshittified that at this point it's hardly worth even having it on your fucking phone. Same with tinder, and all the other shit match.com owns. All they want you to do is pay for their premium service.
I met my current girlfriend on Taimi, which in my experience was the least obnoxious app, and would recommend it to anons that are or are into black and/or queer partners. It might be a regional thing because I'm in the South but those demographics are heavily represented on it. Of course it also wants you to pay for its bullshit premium tiers but it's possible to meet people without them.
>>2153157It seems you need to believe that all woman are sexually pure until a man corrupts her? Because all evidence shows she was sexually on the same page as Kanye and that she only now separated over the swastika shirts. And who knows if that separation is permanent or not.
Also she's 30yo so you can't pretend she some easily influenced teenager and she is legally married so she always had the power to divorce and get millions. She didn't need to wait this many years unless she wanted to.
>>2153764>Also she's 30yo so you can't pretend she some easily influenced teenager
>"Innocence" is a relative quality, not a guarantee of youth. In fact, if said fenale party was a teenager in this, chances are she'd use her minor status to make the man look really bad. >>2152495And you notice the amount of marriages and procreation has declined?
Also, the amount of women who outearn their husbands are a minority compared to those who also went to college and graduated.
>>2153196Yet these same people think children working at McDonalds for three days a week is abusive?
Just goes to show that treating children as a minority free from work is paradoxical
>>2153838By now no one is surprised by any ghoulish opinion voiced by this
liberal. He is irrelevant.
>>2153973Yeah, I'm really getting the impression that he's a huckster. I'm getting the feeling while reading this that he's trying to distract me with sleight of hand while picking my pocket. The terms, concepts, and references he uses seem more like ornaments than actual integral pieces of his writing.
>They thus represent the quintessential target of true absolute enmity for the political partisan, being an agential manifestation of the universal modern state itself, a kind of killer surveillance-bot designed to exterminate would-be partisans. The enmity toward leftists shared by partisans is not simply based in ideological disagreements or conflicts in values. It is like the enmity reserved toward a snitch, whose sole mission is to eliminate and give away the partisans position against its state enemy. On a certain level, it is not even personal. The very alignment of their contrary subjectivities pit them against one and another in a war of absolute annihilation.
>Leftism is an ideology of leveling and standardization, flattening out stratified socio-political terrain into conventional smooth-space. The leftist, being therefore an agent of universal surveillance, raising every point of political contention, antagonism, and contradiction to the status of striation on the topography of universal political form (to be smoothed over, i.e. #BLM!). The partisan irregular, by nature, occupies points of antagonistic contradiction, and thus situates its position toward content rather than form. The partisan has no regard for any ‘political spectrum’ or representation of politics, it embodies political antagonism itself. >>2153965 Horseshoe Theory: Wow, I discovered that both anarchists and Nazis agree on killing each other, so they are the same. I'm so smart.
马蹄铁理论:哇我发现了无政府主义者和纳粹都赞同杀死对方,所以他们是一样的,我真是太聪明了
>>2153952Interesting that in this case the cons
oppose parental authority. So if I have it right, kids should not get to decide to take hormone blockers, but they should decide wether to keep a baby? Pick a side, guys
>>2153986He is right about one thing: Neuralink type brain chips will be used as kill switches. Corporations will normalize them using some slick advertisements to make it look cool while also saying you need them to get good jobs and conservatives and liberals will say it is everyone responsibility to reduce crime and terrorism by being tracked. Western leftists will get them as well because they are stupidly sympathetic to any emotional argument about the "greater good."
>>2154164Parental authority isn't some absolute with no limits. Murder would be one of those limits.
>>2154171So how do the twitter anarchists feel about King Elon firing all those government workers? Do they suddenly turn liberal and defend the state?
>>2154276He should really turn that power towards something more productive.
Focusing that much on spectacle can’t be healthy.
>>2154167Isn't it mostly feminists that've been pushing the "only women being intoxicated can't consent" line?
Anyways, unrelated to that, ahem.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/02/kennedy-rfk-antidepressants-ssri-school-shootings/RFK Jr. Is Already Taking Aim at Antidepressants
>Hours after being confirmed as Secretary of the US Department of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. issued a statement that laid out sweeping plans for his first 100 days in office. Chief among his goals, he wrote, was to combat what he called a “growing health crisis” of chronic disease. The document called for the federal government to investigate the “root causes” of a broad range of conditions, including autism, ADHD, asthma, obesity, multiple sclerosis, and psoriasis. Conspicuously absent was any explicit mention of childhood vaccines, which Kennedy has long railed against as the head of the anti-vaccine advocacy group Children’s Health Defense.
>But the document did zero in on another one of his fixations: a class of widely prescribed drugs that treat depression, anxiety, and mood disorders. The government, he said, would “assess the prevalence of and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics, [and] mood stabilizers.”
>Kennedy has repeatedly railed against what he sees as rampant overprescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, commonly known as SSRIs, which treat depression and anxiety and include medications like Prozac and Zoloft. As with his previous assertions about vaccines, many of his statements about these drugs are not backed by science. In a 2023 livestream on X with Elon Musk, he claimed that “tremendous circumstantial evidence” suggested that people taking antidepressants were more likely to commit school shootings. (Actually, most school shooters were not taking those drugs, evidence shows.) Kennedy has also called people who take SSRIs addicts—and then tried to claim he didn’t during his confirmation hearings.
>When government researchers follow Kennedy’s orders to study SSRIs, they’ll find reams of research, including long-term studies, that have found that the drugs are safe and non-addictive. That’s good news for the 13 percent of American adults who use SSRIs to treat depression and anxiety. In addition to this well-documented track record of safety, manufacturers have closely monitored adverse reactions to the drugs in children and teens. The Food and Drug Administration already requires drug manufacturers to include warnings in packaging because of some evidence that SSRIs can cause a temporary increase in suicidal thoughts in pediatric patients (though evidence on this point is mixed).
>So despite this evidence, what options does Kennedy offer in response to the supposed overprescription of and addiction to SSRIs? In a podcast appearance last July, Kennedy said he planned to dedicate money generated from a sales tax on cannabis products to “creating wellness farms—drug rehabilitation farms, in rural areas all over this country.” He added, “I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need—three or four years if they need it—to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities.” The farm residents would grow their own organic food because, he suggested, many of their underlying problems could be “food-related.”
>In advance of Kennedy’s confirmation, 15,000 physicians signed an open letter opposing his appointment; the letter specifically mentioned his false claims “linking school shootings to antidepressants.” During the confirmation hearings, Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN) said Kennedy’s statements about antidepressants “reinforce the stigma that people who experience mental health [conditions]…face every single day.” Smith said she was “very concerned that this is another example of your record of sharing false and misleading information that actually really hurts people.”Welp, I might lose my prescription if this asshole decides that the evidence don't real.
>>2154201Elon's Neurolink brand might be a grift for now but the tech is possible
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/brain-body-linking-microchip-helps-paralyzed-man-regain-movement-in-arm#Brain-surgery-with-real-time-feedbackWe both know after it gets officially approval by corporate paid doctors and psychologists it's marketing just needs to spin it as a way to help the community or reduce depression and western leftists will fall for it. I can already see condescending retards calling you a luddite schizo, how you should not to do your own research and you need to trust the experts.
It's really funny seeing groypers freaking the fuck out at the rest of the mainstream Right for acting as it always has.
I don't have any screencaps on hand, but one of them said something along the lines of "Fools! They're placating you by putting boobs back in media removing the pronouns and making the gay stuff more subtle!" and, like, where the hell have you been for the last fucking forever? The whole point of Gamergate was "we hate political correctness and want sex and violence that appeals to straight men back in our media". The mainstream Right has been clear that what's going on right now is exactly what they wanted. The only major area of disagreement I've seen was the h-1b visa stuff, and even then, that wasn't a deal breaker, just kind of something they disliked. It's very much a populist movement, and guess what? Christian Nationalism isn't very popular.
Also, something I've noticed is that, on Twitter specifically, these people (groypers) show up everywhere, but they all have microscopic follow counts, with even the big man himself Nick Fuentes barely breaching 500k, and very few likes on their individual posts. I guess it goes to show just how chronically fucking online these faggots are.
Oh, and speaking of, they act like leftists just discovered rude words, which to me, speaks to how little they interact with actual leftists. I've been calling people fags and retards since I was like eight, and unlike these guys, it's not because I'm trying to be edgy, it's just the way I talk.
>>2154572Honestly it's not done me any harm, and it's helped keep me going after being beaten down a ton at work.
Yeah yeah, I know, "Big Pharma, they're just putting out pills so you don't realize how fucked the world is"
>>2154677Yeah, I've noticed some weight gain since I've started on them, taking supplements and working out more to try and counter-act that.
>>2154689>Why are young men turning right wing?<"YAAAAAAAAS! THE LOSERS AREN'T TALKING TO WOMEN! STAY QUIET MOID!"I think the thing that really blows my mind about liberals is like, they'll celebrate shit like this, men being more socially isolated, less willing to speak to women, etc, then act blindsided when those men end up listening to Andrew Tate and the like saying "you shouldn't respect women at all."
Shit I even saw a few after the election saying "Well I've NEVER seen any example of men being made to feel alienated from the left!" And it's like, you people were literally asking "would you rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a man" and then snickering at men getting upset. The only answer I can think of for why they think this way, is they imagine they're only insulting "misogynist men" and not, y'know, all men.
>>2154708Let me tell you dating apps are an even more exploitative and awful nightmare. The people who run them literally refer to men as users and women as products. It creates a culture that's way more alienating than the old "approach in person" method.
>>2154743ssri facts for retards:
1. they are fairly effective for around ~50% of the people who take them for depression. there is likely a genetic component.
1a. however, benefits for depression are obtained after around 8 months of usage and continued usage brings no benefits
1ai. they continue being fairly effective for anxiety
2. they are indeed not the most effective treatments for depression. MAOIs like phenelzine nuke depression but have dangerous interactions with cheese and wine among other things so psychs are unwilling to prescribe them (most people are retarded). additionally, psychedelics show robust anti-depressant effects even stronger than ssris that last several months. however, it's not fair to ask say your average 50 yr old isolated lady to trip without supervision or most likely without any prior drug experience. there's research into non-hallucinogenic psychoplastenogens so stay tuned for next 5-10 years. ketamine is also effective but only short-term, might be neurotoxic, is likely urotoxic, and has been commodified by extremely predatory quasi-unregulated clinics.
3. dunking on people for taking ssris in the current alienating, lonely, unnatural capitalistic hellscape is cruel. have some shame and consider killing yourself.
>>2154743Oh no not le heckin poor oppressed breeder moids
I have yet to see Gay and Bi man as violent, antisocial, sadistic and spíteful as hetero males so don't say ""young men""" in general
>>2154743You consistently keep bringing up 4chan bullshit and not developing any of your positions, or at least I haven't noticed that. Please read a book.
>>2154689I don't think this post was made by a liberal or a radlib. He looks like some slightly left-wing black sports fan from the profile. It doesn't look like this post was made to gloat, but rather because the author is himself one of these guys.
>>2154743CPUSAnon consistently on point, radlibs drive young men to the right, its the duty of Socialists to present ourselves as the alternative to the idpoloids and not an ally
>>2154810>>2154806>Only hetero males talk like thatnot true retard
>I have yet to see Gay and Bi man as violent, antisocial, sadistic and spíteful as hetero males so don't say ""young men""" in generalGay men are still just men, and to suggest we are somehow more innately peaceful or sociable is to separate us from the general body of masculinity as abnormal. It is insulting to suggest that we are docile compared to "le violent straight men"
>>2154848>It is insulting to suggest that we are docile compared to "le violent straight men"I'd say gay men are more sociable, friendly, which is kind of like a racial bonus in an RPG but that is not the same thing as docile.
>MishimaGay men tend to have a strong sense for aesthetics, which I think is one reason why gays make up a disproportionate number of priests, but they suppress their sexuality and sublimate their energies into all those rituals. What Mishima was doing (in his fascist way) and what drag queens do is more of a Nietzchean will to power thing. I think Todric Hall (Taylor Swift bff) is emblematic of the latter.
>>2154813>You consistently keep bringing up 4chan bullshit and not developing any of your positions, or at least I haven't noticed that. Please read a book.I talk about stuff young men are seeing right now, not bolts of linen that are irrelevant to anything they're actually concerned with.
Like I dunno if there's a term for this already, but the impression I get from the way people talk here is, to use a metaphor, like a preacher punching someone in the gut then saying that the reason people don't attend some mass is because of obscure biblical prophecy and we should spend more time debating the filioque controversy and less time talking about how he's known as "the gut-punching preacher".
>>2154848I try not to see it as a kind of war with two distinct sides, I think there are attitudes that we should encourage and those we should discourage. And I think there's a trend of "learned idiocy" that think all discussions on completely minor things like maybe being more polite or less alienating should be displaced by the constant appraisal of deep theory. Like worrying whether the foundations will really last for the next 10 years while your plumbing's backed up and spewing shit everywhere.
>>2154874Man the left really has the best propagandists for Fascism. Someone points out a problem that, whether you like it or not, is important to enough people, and you screech that they should be fascists.
Seriously, who are you even trying to appeal to? Not the masses that’s for sure, you’ve made it clear you hate them. The fact you want so many of them to be fascists is obvious enough.
>>2154882Look man I get that there’s a lot of retards out there among dudes, everything Andrew Tate says is pretty much just a definition of toxic masculinity, but I think there’s a genuine empathy gap that a lot of people notice. It becomes even more pronounced because, like it or not, it seems the Left is saddled with “empathy” or “caring” as their appearance, so the moment there’s a distinct lack of that, people notice—like a “family values” Republican sucking off a Trans woman in a seedy bathroom.
Like I care about women not having to be stuck in broken relationships with narcissistic psychos. Crowder fuming over his wife being able to leave him is example enough of why a literal, legal system of patriarchy is bad. However I don’t believe that men are the “evil gender” or something ridiculous like that.
There’s a trend when talking about men’s issues I’ve noticed, where the only people that seem to treat them as serious and worthy of discussion on their own merits are the political Right. When those part of the broad category of the Left don’t just dismiss them out of hand, there’s always these verbal “escapes” they leave themselves, as if to say to the wider Left: “Don’t worry, I don’t care about this *that* much.” To use an example of the liberal left, Jon Stewart had an interview after Trump won again, and they got into how young men went Right, and how they feel alienated, isolated, even hated. His response was along the lines of:
>”It seems ridiculous to say, but a lot of men feel as though they aren’t being represented or acknowledged in government.”Well, yeah. I can see plenty of homeless guys in my town, should I presume that just because they’re men they should feel represented? I’ve had plenty of conversations with other men, I’ve heard their despair, their fears, and I’ve yet to see one who feels truly represented by society at large. We’re flesh automatons, whose purpose is to fight wars and destroy our bodies while we labor, but all the wars are meaningless conflicts fought with drones and modern labor is out of the factory and in the cubicle. The mere idea that we can feel this intense alienation and loneliness is absurd, tools aren’t supposed to feel anything, you don’t ask your toaster if it feels represented—that’s reserved for people.
Sorry for going on a rant, but it’d just be nice if, when discussing men’s issues, we didn’t treat it as an act of profound self-centeredness on the part of men, or as a side quest to the real people’s issues.
>>2154944I mean, there is the elephant on the room that politics are just segregated by gender now. The left and the right in general are just gendered hugboxes for resentful people, such that the right just dismiss all female issues as landwhales being triggered that some imaginary men are catcalling then and the left dismissed as male issues as "creeps" and uggos just shitting themselves because there's no booba in vidya.
Ofc, i'm not doing some Stalin is as bad as Hitler tier rightoid propaganda, but there is this general trend caused by sexual tensions and the cost of living crisis which animated the discourse, and sooner or later we will end up in a South Korean like situation
>>2154959It's just gweilo culture. Gweilo believes it is his or her duty to enforce morality around them as a busybody. Lots of proverbs on this topic from the Far East you can google.
多一事不如少一事 (duō yī shì bù rú shǎo yī shì) - "More trouble is worse than less trouble."
闭门造车 (bì mén zào chē) - "To build a car behind closed doors."
枪打出头鸟 (qiāng dǎ chū tóu niǎo) - "The bird that sticks its head out gets shot."
他人の芝生は青い (tanin no shibafu wa aoi) - "Other people's lawns are green."
口は災いの元 (kuchi wa wazawai no moto) - "The mouth is the source of disaster."
出る釘は打たれる (deru kugi wa utareru) - "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down."
사돈 남 말 한다 (sadon nam mal handa) - "The in-law's business is someone else's business."
남의 떡이 더 커 보인다 (nam-ui tteok-i deo keo boinda) - "Other people's rice cakes look bigger."
There are pros and cons to both busybody culture and don't concern yourself with others culture. While busybody culture can be very annoying and full of double standards, at least it can prevent some unnecessary deaths from drownings and other accidents where everyone just stands around rubbernecking instead of helping.
>>2154848literally called Glownonymous
radlibs are not more important adversaries than the right wing. Retarded post
>>2154954Thanks homie.
>>2154959I saw one example of that IRL a few years back. It was a couple in the midst of a breakup. Dude was kind of a chubby guy, woman looked about his height. I was pushing carts and this was at the edge of our parking lot, by this brick wall. I kind of saw them walking around earlier, woman had this real angry look to her. Eventually I hear
>”WHAT, SO YOU DON’T LOVE ME ANYMORE?!”It was the woman saying that. I look over, and I see the dude with his hands at his side, open palmed, back to the wall, and the woman just reels back and slaps the side of his face. She’s yelling something incoherent at him, getting in his face, even grabs his throat a couple times. All the while this poor dude is just taking it.
I went to get my manager, basic gist was “as long as it’s at the end of the parking lot it ain’t our problem.” Now if it was a dude beating a woman, shit, I’d probably get a talking to if I didn’t physically intervene.
Which isn’t to say we should stand by if a man is hitting a woman, or even consider it to be a “fair fight”, but I can’t help but think of how the right approaches men’s issues. It’s kind of like they reinforce the most negative sexist stereotypes, stereotypes that unironically plague men, too, but it can be rebranded as a form of male empowerment. To use an analogy from a story I once thought up: imagine a society that’s lived under a strict caste system for hundreds of years, and then almost overnight the legal enforcement of that system is gone; in fact it isn’t just gone, there are even efforts to try to undo it, halfhearted though they are. Now imagine in such a society: what happens to the warrior caste? The remnants of the old system still exist, they’re still defined as born killers and fighters, but the conditions that necessitated that status are gone: there’s no more wars to fight, we don’t need muscles we need brains, yet you’re still inherently dangerous—sure some good-natured people will say you’re “free” from your caste too, to be whatever you want to be, but you’re still ultimately defined by it. You’re expected to be violent and strong and dangerous, such that if any fight breaks out and you’re around, it’ll be assumed you instigated it. In such circumstances your “freedom” feels more like a new kind of chain, worse than the old one.
Andrew Tate would lead men into a world of constant stress to prove who’s the most “manly”, and deprive men of the joy of reading and writing because “reading is gay” or whatever. But he does offer men one thing: the women slapping you around? They’re doing that because they don’t know “their place.” He gives you permission to slap them back, to tell them to shut the fuck up, that you’re tired of hearing about their bullshit. While a truly emancipatory view of gender would be one in which men don’t have to see themselves or be seen as loaded guns just waiting to be fired, liberals propose a world in which those guns have to be locked in a safe for all eternity lest they hurt anyone, and rightists are proposing an armatocracy—rule by the gun. Neither actually benefit men, but one at least gives them the impression of having a place in the world.
>>2154991this is a much smaller problem than you think it is, and actually skews the other way. the manosphere shit is aggravated, atomized men who spend more time fantasizing about these sort of things. the internet puts this shit in front of your face.
reactoids going to reactoid - andrew tate is just another form of reactionary propaganda amongst many and the actual contradiction is not radlib's views on men but women having had free'd themselves from being forced into marriage with unattractive, behaviorally shitty men. the very first class war was between men and women as per engels
>>2154995Methinks you didn't really consider what anyone said. And he's right.
Men are still expected to be the brutes whose problems are downplayed and dismissed.
Women can and do physically and socially assault men and they get off with a wrist slap.
But if a man were to throw back in self defense, he's wrong.
>>2154991>>2154881This is why singlehood is a blessing for men.
I wish less men would complain about feeling lonely just because they don't have a female counterpart yapping their ear off.
Same for women.
I remember when I worked in Publix there were a couple female coworkers who were whining about being lonely from single hood.
One admitted she had bipolar and she said she would stick by her man even if he was fucked up.
I don't trust heterosexual romance. It's always about reducing peoples roles to their genitals.
People like to talk about how we've progressed but we haven't really
Weeaboos were the smart ones for investing their Aphroditic drives for fiction
>>2155030The man himself was never relevant, there was always gonna be a grifter who'll try to appeal to disaffected young men, I was just using him as maybe the most notorious example.
>>2154995My own personal hypothesis is that the culture that predominates the internet eventually slithers into the mainstream. Which isn't to say that the internet is gonna turn every man into a stormtrooper, but that there will be circumstances wherein discourse online inspires actions or movements in the real world, which can do great harm or great good.
>>2155023I heard a story once that one of the last things Nietzsche did when he had a rare moment of lucidity among his madness was draw a picture of a man and a woman embracing one another.
Which is to say, I think we yearn to not just belong to ourselves, but to share our lives with another. Not to dominate, nor be dominated, but to live in true equality with another.
>>2154959Women are physically weaker compared to men, a man can kill a women with a single punch, meanwhile women can at most scratch you, c'mon bro. Yea, there are women doing domestic abuse against men, I know that, I've got some anecdotes, but, the male is always larger, guy is getting intimidated by a woman two heads shorter than him?
<"Yes ma'am I'm sorry ma'am I'm so sorry It's my fault I'm so sorry I'm so sorry…"Guys like this should go into therapy, straight to therapy. It looks goofy. He could pick her up and throw her out of a window and he just stands there like a bitch, lmao.
>>2154975Nah, video related. Only Blacks helped while whitey watched like goofs.
>>2155045>My own personal hypothesis is that the culture that predominates the internet eventually slithers into the mainstream.I think it's better to think of it in terms of "obscure internet" and "mainstream internet" than it is "internet" vs "mainstream". Because the internet
is mainstream at this point, but most people aren't watching Nick Fuentes, for example.
>>2155057Ignoring she can use tools or techniques to cover the gap, abuse is still abuse.
Just like it's still rape even if the child is a boy.
>>2154869>It's funny how you're promoting "masculinity" yet also agreeing that young men are pussies who have been bullied too much online and need to be coddled.>>2154880>I don't see your point, people being upset at prejudice towards them is not mutually exclusive with the ideal of strength. For the record as well, it is a good thing radlibs are alienating young men away from liberalism lol, its just disappointing Socialists are taking their lead.I have a few scattered thoughts. I think a difficulty with idpol is that identities are often "branded." Like if you're a black man in America, you can't really avoid that and sooner or later someone is going to remind you of it. Gays can blend in a bit (unless you can't) but something might happen sooner or later that marks your difference. Now, idpol-based movements can make stupid decisions or do things that hurt them, but the prejudice needs to be the focus of the attack, because until the prejudice ends, these identities will continue to have real power. I personally feel the pull toward a more assertive gay identitarian politics, although that's more of an emotional feeling (although I sometimes think to myself, if I'm feeling something, then it stands to reason there are other people feeling that too).
Which is a problem for the Democrats, because there are a lot of people who don't like this stuff. But the Democrats abandoning it to sound like social conservatives might even make the situation worse for them because it'll come across as insincere, which is not a new problem for the Democrats. However, I think a lot of people agree with a universalist program that gay people (etc.) should have rights because "everyone should have rights" even if they don't personally approve or like everything gay people do.
Last thing, in terms of strength, people have tended to underestimate gays because of the sissy thing. But a neo-Nazi skinhead tried to jump someone on the fringe of my city's Pride parade a few years ago and the would-be victim punched the Nazi in the throat and killed him. There was an attempted mass shooting at a gay bar in Colorado (?) a few years ago that ended with the shooter being disarmed and pistol whipped by drag queens. Like you were saying, these are still men. I also really don't believe in any kind of victim mentality, and the progress that sexual minorities have made is mostly bound up in immanent courage and self-affirmation.
I actually think a "contradictory" but probably true thing is that the ferocity of gay culture might correspond with a steelier and "stronger" attitude in a pinch. The Black Panther Party also had this. It just looks weird because it's, like, drag queens – hah! Who is afraid of that? But if RuPaul was a general I think he'd be like Alexander the Great or something. Or what Confucius said, "never give a sword to a man who can't dance."
>>2154991>While a truly emancipatory view of gender would be one in which men don’t have to see themselves or be seen as loaded guns just waiting to be fired, liberals propose a world in which those guns have to be locked in a safe for all eternity lest they hurt anyone, and rightists are proposing an armatocracy—rule by the gun. Neither actually benefit men, but one at least gives them the impression of having a place in the world.At best we might have to hope for a "New York City" rule. If you've ever been there, it's just an overwhelming number of people, and so many different people. You'll see some of the world's top fashion models walking by next to someone who just landed there from Nepal. How it all works is completely baffling, but it seemed like an important part of it is that everyone agrees to mutually not fuck with each other while doing their thing everyday in exchange that other people not fuck with them, and then they go home, or they go out somewhere, where they do their own thing with other people doing that kind of thing. Very simple. We live in an incredibly large and diverse society with many different interests that are only growing more complicated and varied.
>>2155046I posted this in /usapol/ and I'll post it here.
It's so funny to me that Musk is this habitual deadbeat despite having a fortune of nearly half a trillion dollars. He could set this lady up for life with what would be less than a minor accounting error on his fortune, and he chooses to ghost her instead.
I don't know if it's because he's a its literally in his instincts to be a deadbeat regardless of wealth, or if he's an actual fucking dragon in human form who cannot be parted with single cent of his hoard.
>>2155048>Ethan losing his mind lmaoidk Seeing how his "content nuke" is just like a full hour of Ethan trying to produce the most accessible anti-zionist bait in the world. I think it's safe to assume he's just desperately trying to become a heel to Hasan vaguely anyone leftier or less of a Zionist than himself.
You know, Destiny tried to follow a similar path. But Ethan is probably more of an asset and less of an actual retard, despite the act. it could work for him. Hasbara could benefit from having less conceited wunderkinds and professional victims and more retards like Ethan lowering the bar for entry into the cult.
>>2155059I'm not even saying this as, like, encouragement or anything, but I barely listen to Hip-Hop and I got into Kendrick Lamar 'cause of the feud with Drake, and at this point I have no clue how Drake gets out of this without just killing himself or Kendrick.
Like there's midwestern MAGA dads learning about this fucking beef from their kids. This one song calling Drake a pedophile, a fake Black person, and tearing down his entire ego may be one of the most popular songs in the world. I don't think Drake's reputation can ever fucking recover from that. This one song got as many Grammys as Drake did in his whole career, right? Either way, a bunch of his colleagues were singing along to "a minor" at a widely televised event. Then the fucking superbowl comes around, and Kendrick has two of Drake's exes on stage with him while he plays "Not Like Us".
And what's this fucking clown do? He tries to sue Spotify because his ego wont let him accept that he fucking lost. Like, I can't think of anything he can do to prove Kendrick's "colonizer" accusation more correct than
that.
Goddamn this was a great beef.
>>2154813>>2154806>>2154813>>2154859>>2154867LeftyPol really is just another imageboard.
The typical solipsism is so too much as usual
>>2154276>If that isn't autism, I don't know what it.It's business savvy. Ethan's content nuke is bait anyway. So that allows BE second channel(slop channel) to overlap with many other content creators, it leads to personal and algorithmic networking. Ethan's self debasing journey to become the dumbest representation of hasbara will drive the audience towards BE videos as well. And it's still decent content refuting Zionism.
you know, the worst thing that could happen to Ethan is that he is exposed for being a cynical hasbarist feigning stupidity. The former will not matter because he will always be "batting" for that side of the culture war. But the latter could actually destroy his career. And BE is open about going for that with involving Hila. If Ethan is put in the spot of defending her he'll have to choose between exposing himself or throwing her under the bus, lose/lose.
In more ways that one, probably, since Hila may be his liaison to the Israeli glowies >>2155059the Super Bowl itself was the most watched event, no shit the halftimes gonna get the same number of views. kendrick being a theatre kid roleplaying as a revolutionary is infinitely more cringe than drake being a theatre kid roleplaying as a gangbanger. him saying vague "fuck da white man" statements as part of a pre-approved million dollar deal in a billion dollar industry and "fuck pedophiles" while being friends with celebrity pedophiles is literally the second coming of Lenin.
plus hes 5'5 and sounds gay
>>2155280Sucks it's from a zigger, but it's a good take.
>>2155281>>2155298>>2155310>>2155453You could drown a baby in gasoline until brain damage through oxygen deprevation, and you'll get more intelligent responses that these posts lol.
Kendrick Lamar's performance is the black man equivalent of Biden being like, "We're working on a ceasefire!"
>>2155387By the way interracial porn has
NOT gone down since USAID went defunct, check /gif/ or /co/ if you don't believe me.
>>2155414>>2155280I'm finally watching this garbage and this is the worst halftime show I've ever seen. Kendrick can't dance for shit and his backup dancers can't either.
Ok the American living uygha flag is kind of interesting I guess.
The music continues to be loud as shit. Ain't no way anyone who doesn't already know the lyrics can even understand what he's mumbling on top.
Oh my god all these fucking lines Samuel L is saying.
>I see you brought your homeboys with you>the old kultur cheat code>scorekeeper deduct 1 lifeNow the dancers are dressed in all White like they're headed to a Diddy freakoff gyrating in the dumbest way possible.
All the women start speaking in unison like some creepy alien hivemind in a movie. He says he's going to play their favorite song. A little teaser of 'Drake is a pedpohile' start playing
>Woah I need to slow it down first<proceeds to perform the lowest energy most mumbly song yet supposed to sound like he's mumbling in your ear while pillow talking youvery diddyesque.
<the woman starts singingWoah is someone going to actually pretend to perform?
<Next song<They're doing another pathetic Daft Punk - Around The World video attempt.Alright is this it? The next song has to be the pedophile anthem right? That's what we're all here for, you said so yourself earlier in the performance Kendrick. We don't care about this crap.
<Samuel L returns>Yeah that's what America wants! Nice and calm<pedo horns start playing>Don't. Mess. This…. (he begins to realize what's coming) :0
>It's a cultural divide I'ma get it on the floor<Alien hivemind women: you really bout to do it?>40 acres and a mule this is bigger than the music<you really bout to do it?>yeah they tried to rig the game but you can't fake influence<they get on em like that????(the closed captions on the official upload don't even know)
<that song you've heard a 100 times too many last year starts playing<he keeps low energy walking around stage<Background dancers keep jumping around like monkeys. I think they're literally curling their arms inward like the classic monkey pose.<the whole crowd saysA MINNNNNNNNNNNORRRRRR<massive applause for themselves breaks outThey actually let Mustard come out. Yupp his pre-recorded beats were doing 90% of the work in this "performance"
>turn this tv off, turn this tv off>turn this tv off, turn this tv off>turn this tv off, turn this tv offGladly Kendrick.
>>2155797>based on most classics down to TupacWhat does that mean? You're saying he has the most classic songs? Tupac really doesn't even have that many classic songs either.
>Kendrick is that he was moderately unknown outside rap circles, this beef changed that.He won the Pulitzer LMAO. He's an NPR type rapper.
>>2155653It's insane to me that this many people are all
this attached to the fucking pancake mammy.
PepsiCo rebranding it to "Pearl Milling Company" was basically a second 9/11 for a very weird kind of boomer and GenXer
>>2155825He's right. Modern day MLism is little more than an online subculture akin to being a Groyper or a Brony.
>>2155832The obsession baby commies have with that map is peak leftoid slop only surpassed in corniness by the likes of FALC memes or the "Labour creates all wealth" fake quote.
>>2155871Haha very funny nafoid. Russia shuts down neo-nazi movements on the regular. There is a collage of a bunch of news stories from russia where they are arresting white power leaders and other far right movements. Russia keeps its far right problems under control. Ukraine is elevating them SPECIFICALLY against russia.
Ukrainian national identity is genocide of russians. Read Hrukrainian nationalist pamphlets from the early 1900's and you will see it.
>Hate your russian culture>Hate your russian wife>Hate your russian childrenThis was a real pamphlet by the way. A zigger might probably find it. The Hruks are deserving of it because they were always a rebellious fake ethnicity.
>>2155825If you're looking for a critique of ML, especially a more theoretically technical one, this really isn't the video. It's mostly taking a load of historical failures of AES and saying "this was bad" moreso than digging into the foundations of ML theory. Seems to me like a video made by a bitter apostate aimed at hyper-online tankies, online ideological combat as opposed to ideological development. Of course, the stated intention of the video is to jog critical thinking but I don't think it is going to be the effect. There are criticisms of vanguardism, the party form, dogmatism etc that can be made (from MLs no less) but the video doesn't really get into the meat and potatoes of it nor does it do enough to critique the
practical shortcomings of
contemporary leninist organizations (of both the trot/non-trot varieties) which seem to underpin the motive for the ideological switch.
>>2155873I think it's a difference between Jungian Thinking and Feeling. "Common sense" is an appeal to Thinking, "Normalcy" is an appeal to Feeling.
>>2155885I don't listen to them, I only visit the reddit. I don't know anybody who could even bare listening to their intense vocal fry.
>>2155889"To jog critical thinking"
These videos are anti-tankie slop for the nice and non authoritarians leftists that the liberals should support there is no critical analysis worth in them nor criticism that can be used, it boils down to open idealism that ignores material conditions or political realities of the past to attack those that support socialism in the pretend, nothing new coming from bad mouse as these "critics" in line with displays such as the fact that he don't care about support to the end of the embargo against Cuba because that will not bring instant communism as his infantile ideological view of the world shows.
In the end this type of anarchism or whatever it is it's just a personality trait that in no way challenges capitalism in no place other than the head of the consumer.
Do you have anything to say for yourselves, psychoanalysincels?
Article:
https://www.parapraxismagazine.com/articles/notnothing>>2155919They may be reactionary, but they aren't reactionary enough to support Nazism, after all most of them suffered through colonialism from the red nations so they know how Hitler is like, so there is a limit to reactionarism that the west doesn't have.
Also which nation had a billionaire member of the government doing a hail Hitler recently ?.
>>2155931You won't see them support Nazism either way, unlike the west, that calls him evil yet In no level on its history did a a policing of nazifacism on its territories, the voting on UN is just one of the long history of the association of the west with nazism.
Guess hate for the Russian goes above the hate against the Nazi to justify these historical actions no.
>>2155931>Hitler isn't even as big of a bad guy in asian and african nations.Watch “The Act of Killing” (2012), the movie follows retired members of fascist death squads that tortured communists to death in Cold War Indonesia. They happily oblige to do reenactments of garroting prisoners or burning houses down. Something they all mention is those WW2 movies and how they loved the parts with the Nazis in it and how they sometimes copied execution methods because they thought Nazis were cool commie killers.
>”Those guys for sure knew how to kill commies!”Its a worldwide problem, Nazis shouldn’t be given an inch.
https://www.citationneeded.news/elon-musk-and-the-rights-war-on-wikipedia/https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundation-doxing-editors-antisemitism.htmlhttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/02/elon-musk-wikipedia/681577/https://forward.com/news/686797/heritage-foundation-wikipedia-antisemitism/wikipedia is under attack
>Heritage Foundation plans to ‘identify and target’ Wikipedia editors
>Employees of Heritage, the conservative think tank that produced the Project 2025 policy blueprint for the second Trump administration, said they plan to use facial recognition software and a database of hacked usernames and passwords in order to identify contributors to the online encyclopedia, who mostly work under pseudonyms. It’s not clear exactly what kind of antisemitism the Wikipedia effort, which has not been previously reported, is intended to address. But in recent months some Jewish groups have complained about a series of changes on the website relating to Israel, the war in Gaza and its repercussions.
>In June, a panel of Wikipedia editors declared the Anti-Defamation League a “generally unreliable” source of information about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, limiting when the organization can be cited in Wikipedia articles. And there was an outcry this fall among some Jewish scholars and pro-Israel activists over edits to Wikipedia’s entry for Zionism to add references to “colonization.”
>The Heritage Foundation sent the pitch deck outlining the Wikipedia initiative to Jewish foundations and other prospective supporters of Project Esther, its roadmap for fighting antisemitism and anti-Zionism. The slideshow says the group’s “targeting methodologies” would include creating fake Wikipedia user accounts to try to trick editors into identifying themselves by sharing personal information or clicking on malicious tracking links that can identify people who click on them. It is unclear whether this has begun.
>Tamzin Hadasa Kelly, a prolific Wikipedia editor, said that the methods mentioned in the Heritage document were familiar, and that Wikipedia editors know that it can be difficult to maintain their anonymity.
>Several prominent Jewish groups have also expressed concern that Wikipedia is tilted against Israel. A World Jewish Congress report released in March said the site’s articles about the Israel-Hamas war were biased in “terminology, framing and lack of context, one-sided sources and critical omissions,” while Aish.com, an Orthodox news website, said in November that it had been “hijacked by digital jihadists.”
>In May, the Los Angeles Jewish Journal ran a cover story titled “Wokepedia?” that described “seven tactics Wikipedia editors used to spread anti-Israel bias.” The article said that the term “anti-imperialism” had been added to the Hamas page as one of the Palestinian terror group’s ideologies, and the term “antisemitism” removed. Neither term is currently on the Hamas page; editors frequently discuss and change the content of controversial articles.
>The Heritage Foundation told prospective donors the project would be led in part by Tom Olohan, a former FBI agent, and noted that he had won a SHIELD award from the ADL in 2015.
>The ADL had faced backlash in 2021 after several of its staff members were found to be editing Wikipedia entries on domestic extremism to add information about the organization’s research. The site’s rules generally discourage editing aimed at promoting an organization the editor works for, but an ADL spokesperson said at the time that its employees had followed the rules by disclosing that they worked for the group. >>2155825Watched it- but I have a few thoughts.
1. The video series he's making seems to be criticising MLs and ML structures rather than ML theory. No doubt, his points out to the problems regarding the treatment of women, the corruption that took hold within the state are certainly points to consider. But is this more of a criticism of terminally online MLs who dickride everything the USSR did, or the theory itself? Badmouse's initial purpose is a bit general.
Which brings me to point 2.
2. I do feel the "Ideological dead end argument" is silly. Marxism Leninism like any other ideology is not stagnant- hell for a so-called former Maoist he should know this. What irks me about this line is there are former Marxist Leninists who became more anti-statist Lefitsts or Horizontalists through precisely Marxist Leninist analysis-
Subcomandante Marcos via Neo-Zapatista theory, Abdullah Ocalan via Democratic Confederalism, even the directly democratic formation of "laocracy" through the KKE during WWII.
3. The margaret thatcher analogy needed some work. Using a vehement anti-communist who lead mass privitisation is a bit of a stretch. The BM could have made such arguments for figures like Peron, or hell even Labour leaders such as Paul Keating, Anthony Albanese or kevin rudd- that would have at least been better in the idea of "we shouldn't settle for less".
4. Schrodinger's Revisionist/ the Parenti razer argument actually do hold weight. I do have a lot of respect for Parentti, and he's far from uncritical- but MLs do tend to use him ad nauseum to justify EVERYTHING the USSR did- even though folks like Parenti opposed such policies. Pic related.
5. Badmouse's critique of Democratic Centralism I'd argue was ill founded- Badmouse doesn't seem to address the origins of WHY dem-cent was formed- and WHAT it was in response to. While I may disagree on Lenin's democratic centralism it was done in a way to prevent factionalism in the party and tear itself apart. Given how you could have had multiple factions fucking off and doing their own things while undermining others is a valid point to have. Wether having a centralised state apparatus and seeing how said "dem-cent" applied in other Marxist leninist circles is worthy of
6. The on authority argument is pretty succinct. I was honestly expecting him to link to "on authorities" multiple refutations, but I was pleasantly surprised he actually talked about how Liberation can't really be deemed "authoritarian" on the basis that the act of liberation is a response to an authoritarian action.
7. I'm not a fan of the "Dengists leave"- argument. Having read why Deng did what he did- I think the point is to at least understand WHY- we can point to how opening up and dismantling the communes was bad or even chucking your support behind Pol Pot was fucking dumb- simutaneously, there is some understanding as to why he did it. The soviet bloc was falling, communism was crumbling around china- while we can talk of the internal factors, these external factors can't just be dismissed.
I think the thing what Bad Mouse seems to forget is that an explanation isn't necessarily an excuse- a question that ML critics could ask would be, would you be willing to adopt Deng's policies in such a scenario- and actually question as to what they could do better if they deem it to be a mistake.
Actually get a conversation going- Badmouse doesn't seem to want to have it. And I do find the regular "fuck offs", "come ons" and "don't bother" x y and z demonstrates a big headedness and dismissive attitude.
For a man who encourages critical thinking, why not discuss as to WHY the USSR came to such policies- the man is capable of explaining it and pointing it out and elaborating on what was wrong- hell he even operates on what could be done! By encouraging empathy, Badmouse could actually get a democratic discussion going so we have a set plan to do better- the guy can extend such a hand to trots and Maoists but not dengists??
8. Yeah the numbers and influence that the USSR had section was actually well thought out, honestly this is a pretty damn good argument. The latter half of the "popularity argument" actually holds a lot of weight.
9. I take issue with the strawman of Lenin 45:40. This completely flies in the face of how Lenin was starting to see the cracks in the USSR in so far that he realised that they were keeping elements of the Tsarist Regime, and even offered a critique and solution of soviet Bearaucratization in his April thesis. Again, for a so-called former Maoist/ ML he treats Marxism Leninism as stagnant and never evolving?
And again i take the whole "it actually is the ideology that is flawed"- but flawed in what context? Yes, Badmouse does point out the deliberate revisionism of Marxism done by the USSR under Stalin- this is irrefutable, but does that mean that MLs should therefore adhere to everything that Stalin said? That they should keep up the homophobic policies, the realpolitik- of course not- but by that logic it doesn't come with a few policy changes, they KNOWINGLY made ideological changes based on evidence. They are CAPABLE of not being dogmatic. Why this need to paint MLs under one brush. Yes, it can be applied- but point to me how the communist party of Cuba: which under the guidance of ML theory recognised the rights of gay people and trans people and the American Communist party (if they could even be called ML) which opposes them are similar? His talk of the "inability to construct and critique yourself" is applying to MLs is dumb. Some are capable, some are not. The point of any revolutionary is to align with the ones who can-
it's why the Democratic Confederalist experiment of Rojava has been successful in regards to a united front, in so far that it allows MLs and Anarchist-aligned factions to discuss, talk and do away with dogma. That being said he's right about Gadaffi and Assad for that matter. The DPRK accusation is pretty disturbing.
10. Find little disagreement with the "critical support" and "truth" aspect of his video.
11. Badmouse is doing this out a sense of regret- and while this understandable, it doesn't mean he could have offered alternatives or ideological breakthroughs to self-critique. I say this as someone who's dabbled in Anarchist and ML theory (which is what made folks like Apo, Bookchin and Kidale appealing)- socialist ideologies EVOLVE they are never stagnant.
I empathise with his regret, but trying to portray ML as an entirely hopeless ideology is silly- although he does make damn good points, he makes little difference between the theory and practicioners, the regresses and advancements. At least he's willing to point out that this is a systematic problem of the left IN TOTAL.
Overall good points, but I don't agree with his conclusion that Marxism Leninism is overall lost- it is capable of advancing and changing- the question will be wether its adherents are capable of doing so.
>>2155906Ok, it's pretty clear you didn't watch the video in full- he goes into detail of the very argument of "material conditions" and "political realities" 8 minutes in- including the point that what would compell a so-called Marxist Leninist leader to rob people of abortion rights and create a vanity project? How can "material conditions" get you so far to do that?
How could "material conditions" compell the USSRs homophobic policies- never mind that they had research and scientists who came to the conclusion that such people weren't crypto-fascists or bourgoise degenrates, but people? The fact is: you can't- in spite of the research given to them, the USSR ignored these findings and people suffered for it.
His points are clear in talking about a revolution: do they adhere to the principles that they set out to achieve in the first place?
As for Cuba- at worst he called it a nationalist revolution- which historically is true: Cuba didn't officially become communist until a few years after the revolution- even Fidel Castro repeatedly stated during the revolution "we are not communists". At no point does he even justify the blockade against them in the video.
>>2156294>he goes into detail of the very argument of "material conditions" and "political realities" 8 minutes in- including the point that what would compell a so-called Marxist Leninist leader to rob people of abortion rights and create a vanity project? How can "material conditions" get you so far to do that? maybe the 27 million that died between the civil war and ww2 had an impact on the decision making.
also "vanity projects" is a meaningless label as long term plans that will yeald gains only in the future, such as the chinese "ghost towns", gets labeled as such, so without specifics you are just spewing meaningless drivel.
>How could "material conditions" compell the USSRs homophobic policies-same that compelled the GDR to NOT have them, in other words, if the political reality and social adoption of these ideas where present, simple as, pro-LGBT ideas wasnt present on the USSR on the political or popular sphere while orthodox christianity was deeply entertwined and influenced the masses of the USSR in majority, couple that with the global view that homosexuality was a disease you get the backwards views by the party and the people about the question thus their policies
the progressiveness of a party or leftist ideology was never given in history as man or moviments are always limited by the material support of the masses and you can only push or break a bondary if the party and the people are willing to do that, as one influence the other as the communist party must be part of the working class, just look at Marx himself, he changed, yes, but in line of progressiveness of the time that was backwards to even the USSR.
>never mind that they had research and scientists who came to the conclusion that such people weren't crypto-fascists or bourgoise degenrates, but people?scientific theory will only find adherance if the people knows it and is a popular conception by the masses and or the state allows it, in other words, it's political in nature that it will ever get popular and it will only get popular by the overthrown of the previously acepted ideology that ocupied its place, as show by the fact that Eugenics and scientific racism Was an openly scientific field accepted at the time in the four corners of the "civilized" world yet when the USSR it got purged so hard that the genetics field got hit as well by association and demonized, these scientists that came to these conclusions were not popular or had no support to cause a upheavel against the established views of the LGBT folk in the USSR while in the GDR they had an long tradition about the question in the form of the sexologist academy that was burned down by the nazis and cuba would be like the USSR, completely deprived of a thought about the LGBT in its movements, but because the GDR existed, and had wide political ties and influence on Cuba the LGBT thought had far move influence to cause a Upheaval of the Status quo than they ever had in the USSR.
>His points are clear in talking about a revolution: do they adhere to the principles that they set out to achieve in the first place?what principles they did not adhere or casted aside into the pit to never return ?, every compromise of reality that they had to do to continue existing in the face of adversity was still remembered by the USSR as future pursuits, unfortunately compromise when you can't do something is a real thing, you would know rojavist, the oil is still going to the USA for defence grants to keep existing.
>As for Cuba- at worst he called it a nationalist revolution- which historically is true: Cuba didn't officially become communist until a few years after the revolution- even Fidel Castro repeatedly stated during the revolution "we are not communists". At no point does he even justify the blockade against them in the video.he did it on twitter, you only saw this video and knows nothing about the history of badmouse and how much he is a sniveling ideology shopper ?.
again, i'll repeat, this video is just slop for the "anti-Tankie" cattle for his new (tm) ideology, whatever it is, the ancap turned anarchist turned tankie turned ultra changed again so it doesn't matter much, your own critic of the video shows how it's full of generalizations, incapacity analisis of context of what was happening or these ML countries show its just a hitpiece down to promiting DPRK slander to being cozy with US line of the Cold war, utterly useless to anything other Gaining popularity for this slop by trying to be the good boy in the eyes of liberal stablishment so liberals can wear cozy little revolutionary caps and do nothing.
and i will go even further and say this new whatever ideology is meaningless on impact on politics, USSR fell 30 years ago yet it has more contemporary impact of left politics than them that did not achieve anything worth at that time, as they don't achieve no goals and stack no revolutions or support in domestic matters they are effectively inbred hicks of lefitsm that exist to shoot at the ones that do and waste time, a true ideological dead end.
>>2156227Based
Fuck glowiepedia and anybody who defends it
This is why the soviet union fell
https://xcancel.com/sovietvisuals/status/1891298581631430679#mBecause such cartoons were allowed
Instead of making cartoons about scientific techno-socialist future, they were glorifying backward national petty culture and romanticizing the p*asant lifestyle
And yes I know the cartoon is actually about the war or whatever, but it's no excuse
>>2156717soviet union promoted ethnic nationalism among the republics
decades later, ethnic nationalists dismantled the union
simple as
>>2156505>now they are turning around and dickriding EFF and Malema who MAGA faggots literally believe is instituting total crackkka death in South AfricaYeah that's not going to go over well with the MAGAfags but when Infrared first started making videos they had one about the EFF which they considered a model of sorts. Anyways, he writes:
>"The important thing is that it DOES reflect the majority of the masses in the country that it exists in"The EFF received 10.8% of the vote in the last election. Not terrible but not great and they lost seats (and also other party big-wigs who jumped ship immediately afterwards, perhaps sensing this project has a limited shelf-life).
>"But make no mistake, the 'Western left' would indeed find a home in South Africa… with the DA, not the EFF."The Democratic Party's base would probably be with the DA although I think many blacks would be the ANC, but a lot of Western leftists like the EFF precisely because of the party's image and black identity politics. But this might be something where Haz has a more accurate perception of the EFF than the Western left does, which largely just sees an image (Malema in the red beret with a stadium crowd – wow). The EFF's total crakkka death is not the reality but the "threat" of it is a form of media trolling and triggering, so Malema will insinuate it to provoke controversy or say something edgy like "cut the throat of whiteness" and then wait for the reaction and say "ah, you see how scared they are of the EFF!" It's a party that knows how to use social media, and Malema has constructed a kind of celebrity image, unfortunately I don't think social media has brought much good.
The EFF is also funded in part by payoffs under the table, notably a shady Italian tobacco businessman named Adriano Marzotti, and operates according to a Führerprinzip (Malema is "commander-in-chief" and runs the party as a personal dictatorship, his word is the rule). Malema also says a lot of different stuff, like on the land question he has demanded land expropriation without compensation but at other times said he would compensate farmers for constructed assets built on the land. But anyone who knows anything about land knows that the actual stuff built on land (buildings, silos, barns, irrigation systems) can constitute a solid percentage of the value. He has also buttered up the Zulu king who is one of the largest land owners in the country.
BTW, a funny thing is they claim the lineage of Trotskyism in their party program. And Malema himself is not anti-LGBT, and he's pro-open borders. And he's also said he loves Putin and would supply arms to Russia if he were the leader of South Africa (although liking Putin is not a fringe position in South Africa as it is in the West). But like I said, it's a personalistic vehicle for Malema, which makes the EFF's politics fairly capricious.
>>2156515>Land is the most fundemental means of production<physiocracy hoursThis is an interesting thing as most of the EFF's supporters don't live in rural areas. The ANC, MK and IFP all have a greater rural base than the EFF. Most of the EFF's supporters are young people who live in townships, which are filthy overcrowded suburbs built to segregate blacks during Apartheid, and there's a lot of pissed-off unemployed people who live in them (this is also a historical base for the ANC). So what's interesting about that is these are not farm workers, most EFF supporters have never worked a day's worth of farm labor in their lives. Look at this girl with the hoop earrings in this campaign ad, she's not a farmer. I think the word "land" has a strong symbolic and romantic attraction. It's like, fresh air, skies, less noise…
>>2156743People on soy booru who argue with one another.
It's meant to be nonsensical and n a way it helps more than some retard unironically making "Palestinians when" soyjaks which are far worse.
>>2156879>Joshua Landis, director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, said “it is good to see the U.S. actually invest in improving the region if, in fact, this is what the contract means.” He added, “The Kurds are too weak to sustain their control without U.S. military support, which will not be offered indefinitely. When the U.S. pulls out of Syria, as I suspect it will do in the coming years, it will abandon the collaborative elite that it is now assembling in Northeast Syria,” Landis told VOA. “This will come at a tremendous cost to those being asked to trust and depend on the United States today,” he said.say it ain't so! lol
>>2156925image is advertising upcoming protests the based retard just thought it was showing one that was happening even though these are from a fair few years back.
Did he give up on ZA?
>>2156953My union has a telegram channel. There's also telegram channels for all sorts of labor organizing. But it's really focused to that. Since it's a union space, it's pretty succdem and I keep my thoughts to myself mostly. People share their experiences and ask questions etc.
The local chapter of the biggest communist party gathers to discuss happenings, like future protests, news from other chapters, articles from the party newspaper, etc.
If you're looking into something like that, it might make sense for you to try to organize locally?
Regarding other communities, at this point I avoid them all because I just get angry and I would rather not tie it to my offline persona, saying shit that will get me shot by the feds.
Even here I get angry reading half the threads lmao. I'm not the most educated person on this site, but some of y'all really speak too confidently and arrogantly about shit y'all have no idea about.
>>2156990but some of y'all really speak too confidently and arrogantly about shit y'all have no idea about.
That's leftypol but also just americans on the internet in general.
>>2157026Nta but whenever I tried getting involved with the leftists/communists in IRL it was painful and awkward. First, was the time I tried joining a DSA book reading. It was just a group of snobbish, elitist intellectuals sniffing their own farts. Then, I joined the 2020's protests. The people I met on the ground were all in to for the show. No politics beyond "Fuck da System!". Then I met another group of socialists, they were canvassing while I was on my way to work. We actually talked and exchanged socials and were arranging to actually move forward with me agitating at my workplace and collage campus, but then the way I was in contact with went off on me because I wasn't a ML and I was against the People's revolution and some other drivel. I ghosted him.
Why can't we a well adjusted intellectual like Lenin to lead the left today?
>>2156596>what vanity projects The one he talks about in the video regarding cecauscau and his presidential palace. Or even the disturbing accusations he made about the DPRK.
>same that compelled the GDR to NOT have them, in other words, if the political reality and social adoption of these ideas where present, simple as, pro-LGBT ideas wasnt present on the USSR on the political or popular sphere while orthodox christianity was deeply entertwined and influenced the masses of the USSR in majority.Firstly, LGBTQ ideas WERE present in the USSR and they did have scientists backing them. Nikolai Sameshko being one- and in spite of his findings he was unjustly censored.
>scientific theory will only find adherance if the people knows it and is a popular conception by the masses and or the state allows it, in other words, it's political in nature that it will ever get popular and it will only get popular by the overthrown of the previously acepted ideology that ocupied its place, as show by the fact that Eugenics and scientific racism Was an openly scientific field accepted at the time in the four corners of the "civilized" world yet when the USSR it got purged so hard that the genetics field got hit as well by association and demonized, these scientists that came to these conclusions were not popular or had no support to cause a upheavel against the established views of the LGBT folk in the USSR while in the GDR they had an long tradition about the question in the form of the sexologist academy that was burned down by the nazis and cuba would be like the USSR, completely deprived of a thought about the LGBT in its movements, but because the GDR existed, and had wide political ties and influence on Cuba the LGBT thought had far move influence to cause a Upheaval of the Status quo than they ever had in the USSR.Then by that logic wouldn’t it have been important for the USSR to possibly learn from the GDRs example? This also points out of a massive failing on the USSRs part- the fact that it neglected scientific findings for the sake of maintaining some vague “popular will”. If I started talking about trans rights in a rural part of America which hypothetically had a workers revolution, should a workers state maintain their homophobia due to some degree of “Christian evangelism” or popular consent? No.
Again, pro lgbtq findings weren’t necessarily unpopular until the time of Stalin’s leadership.
One has to question not only the ideological underpinnings of a system but the system itself if it can just dismiss actual scientific research for one and adopt pseudo scientific research like Lysenkoism for another!
This can be seen when In the early 1920s. The Soviet government and scientific community took a great deal of interest in sexual research, sexual emancipation and homosexual emancipation. In January 1923, the Soviet Union sent delegates from the Commissariat of Health led by Commissar of Health Semashko. to the German Institute for Sexual Research as well as to some international conferences on human sexuality between 1921 and 1930, where they expressed support for the legalisation of adult, private and consensual homosexual relations and the improvement of homosexual rights in all nations.
So no, your analysis is fucked. If the Soviets had the power to form joint research communities with other scientific communities and share their knowledge, then one has to question why homosexuality was criminalised under Stalin and Kruschev especially when the GDR ACTIVELY EXISTED.
>His points are clear in talking about a revolution: do they adhere to the principles that they set out to achieve in the first place?Again more evidence you haven’t been keeping track.
Some points would include the expansion of workers rights and democratic rights. As the USSR continued on it became a lot more bearaucratised taking away power from the Soviets all the while maintaining a form of class relations, and while initially it started this way, it became clear the USSR and its vanguard party didn’t give a shit about popular will of the people.
I’d be pretty pissed off at also the rampant corruption within the Soviet ranks while cadres argue “the serve the Will of the people”
Id also argue respect for national sovereignty would come into question when you collectively punish ethnic minorities with ASSRs and dissolve said ASSRs.
He actually provides citations and goes through the very arguments you point out! Whenever folks like you state “uh but what’s the alternative” or “well x was going to happen which why you got y” and you’re met with disagreements- considering there were alternatives you stick your head in the sand.
what principles they did not adhere or casted aside into the pit to never return ?, every compromise of reality that they had to do to continue existing in the face of adversity was still remembered by the USSR as future pursuits, unfortunately compromise when you can't do something is a real thing, you would know rojavist, the oil is still going to the USA for defence grants to keep existing.
1. The oil isn’t going to the USA, as we’ve established multiple times. The Rojavans control their own oil and the only person who WAS buying was Assad. Effectively, the USA is still maintining the blockade on Syria- only easing on it to “provide military aid”. Rojava couldn’t sell the US their oil even if it wanted to. Assad is gone bro, let it go.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/1/7/us-pauses-select-restrictions-on-syria-offering-hope-on-western-sanctions
>he did it on twitter, you only saw this video and knows nothing about the history of badmouse and how much he is a sniveling ideology shopper ?.Can you give us a link?
>utterly useless to anything other Gaining popularity for this slop by trying to be the good boy in the eyes of liberal stablishment so liberals can wear cozy little revolutionary caps and do nothing. Why is that whenever there is a criticism of the USSR it’s always the same buzzwords and paranoid conspiracy theories that you’re furthering the interest of liberal elites when communists and the like despise them? Why do you assume there’s going to be an automatic double standard?
Let’s try this again since you want to argue like a child.
A liberal criticises the USSR for being communist and wants to see it burn.
A communist criticises the USSR because they believe it doesn’t hold to their principles and has issues with its leadership and either wants a reform of the socialist system or a secondary revolution to establish a socialist system.
They are not the same.
>USSR fell 30 years ago yet it has more contemporary impact of left politics than them that did not achieve anything worth at that time, as they don't achieve no goals and stack no revolutions or support in domestic matters they are effectively inbred hicks of lefitsm that exist to shoot at the ones that do and waste time, a true ideological dead end.Again, given how the USSR repressed and backstabbed some of its allies and fellow revolutionaries, and knowingly edited, revised and chose theory when it suited them there is an argument to be made.
I’m not saying the USSR was without merit, I’m saying you’re pea brain for thinking that these flaws were inevitable and that we should accept them.
As for the abortion rights being taken away, there is nothing that justifies it. The death of millions during the time of those wars was tragic, that does not justify policing women’s bodies, ever- especially without their democratic output.
>>2156725Ngl anon, I think that’s a damn good idea.
I’d argue no- the USSR shouldn’t be rejected or demonised, but it shouldn’t be replicated or evangelised either.
>>2157058What I think we're really missing is two things. First, we need to be assessing a socialist project against the most pressing tasks of the revolution in a given moment. In some cases this could be easy, like I'm sure everybody would agree that in 1942, the most pressing task facing the worker's movement was the annihilation of Nazism. Other times it could be more difficult (like today for example), but the point is that we should be looking at these projects against specific, measurable goals rather than abstract values. For example, it's a lot easier to tell when the goal of smashing Nazism has been sufficiently accomplished than the goal of liberating the workers. One is concrete while the other is highly abstract. Of course this would require consideration of how pursuit of short term goals could affect the ability to achieve long term goals, like it would be counterproductive for a socialist party to win an election by just becoming liberals. The point is just that we should be thinking in terms of what needs to be done in the short and medium term, not just what we would like to see in the long term. We should also consider whether these tasks are being achieved as a sort of vanguard or rearguard action, i.e. whether they are done to empower subaltern revolutionary forces or to pacify them in order to ultimately preserve the rule of the old order.
Second, I think we need better metrics to identify the class and political character of a state. I think its incorrect to assume that because a state is repressive or lacks democratic forms, this means it is not representative of the class it claims to represent. This ties into the first point actually, since if we can agree that achieving a set of goals is objectively in the interests of the workers and revolutionary socialism, then a state which achieves those things represents those interests even if it is undemocratic. I think that our understanding of democracy is flawed too. People often argue about whether the USSR was democratic, but these generally just boil down to an argument about which systems are best for achieving democratic ends. Both MLs and Anarchists have yet to shake the liberal spook that democracy is when you vote for things, that a state is defined most effectively by the specific form of its institutions and not which interests are most prominently represented in policy. When a state represents an organic synthesis of the interests and desires of the broadest possible segment of society, then it will in practice be democratic. This is the difference between democratic form and democratic content, and the former should just be a means to achieve the latter, which is the real goal. What interests are represented in this synthesis and which are excluded are what truly determines the class character of a state. This in turn is predominantly determined (imo) by its mode of production, since this is what delineates the boundaries between the most fundamental and irreconcilable of interests: class interests. I would say that a socialist autocracy has a greater ability to become a true democracy than a capitalist "democracy," simply because a socialist system has fewer and less intense social contradictions, allowing for more people to be represented by the prevailing synthesis of interests.
In my personal opinion, the USSR was both achieving many of these pressing revolutionary tasks as well as exhibiting a kind of democratic content which was at least highly representative of proletarian interests, therefore it was worth supporting at least until the Glasnost period despite doing lots of shit I consider indefensible.
>>2156953Nukechan is good but it's slow.
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>>2157242For those wondering who this is:
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