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Трясемся от грядущей мобки, охуеваем с пиздеца и ждем левого поворота пыни вместе.
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>>2260407
In this very thread, yeah

Kosmos 482, a failed Venus probe launched by the former Soviet Union in 1972, re-enter Earth's atmosphere, splashing down in the Indian Ocean west of Indonesia

>>2260326
"After you die, they will make your corpse dance"

>>2260374
Lenin is more difficult to make a nationalist symbol cause he was truly communist. But that hasn't stopped people.

i lobe lenin

>>2260374
<capitalism finally recuperated Stalin
He's being recuperated in Russia for ages now, it's not a recent thing

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>>2260353
This is the Hungarian answer. They arrested a Ukrainian spy working under diplomatic cover and extradited him. Much better then what the Hungarian spy in Ukraine is going to get, if the allegations are true. I watched the video put out by the SBU about the alleged Hungarian spies and it's very weird. The supposed agent and his handler are talking to each other like if they were in a gay romantic relationship. Not something I would except from military intelligence. The video was put out only a few days after the EU-backed opposition leader in Hungary published leaked footage about the Hungarian Minister of Defense talking about "preparing for war", which is the job of every defense minister ever. It didn't cause much outrage, but the intent was precisely that by attacking the policy of military strengthening.

True or not, the claims by Ukraine that Hungary wants to take Transcarpathia are really annoying when the Hungarian government has always made it sure to avoid giving even the slightest hint of that, unlike Poland that has talked about sending peacekeepers to Ukraine several times and openly discussed historical revisionism wrt Lemberg Lwów Lvov Lviv.

Dont worry russiabros, there will be no mobilization.

>>2262666

Fundamentally the western liberals do not understand this. They think that somewhat the "Putler Regime" (ie. Stabilized post-yelstin national-liberal capitalism) has some profound ideological connection to the Stalin era USSR (essentially they manage to cobble this view together using their unifying concept of "authoritarianism"). And that's their explanation for why all this pro-Stalin discourse in Russia and other post-Soviet states.

The truth is though that after like 2ish decades of Stalin bashing (starting in perestroika), recuperating Stalin became increasingly an ideological necessity for post-Soviet capitalism.

Since materials conditions for the vast majority of the post soviet states' populations remained well below that of even revisionist Soviet times, attacking Stalin backfired with increasing intensity. People associated Stalin with not only a strong state, but rapidly growing economy, increased social mobility, more economic equality, punishments for corruption, etc, etc. (and they generally correct about all this).

Ergo, especially with the 2008 recession & relative economic stagnation thereafter, it was imperative to redirect pro-Stalin sentiment in a way that neutralized it, by making Stalin the equivalent of just "A Good Manager/Boss/Tsar" devoid of any marxist content & ignoring the change of the mode of production.

Even with this, contradictions are sharpening, and a small but growing section of people both young and old are investigating Marxism with renewed vigor, and strong positive feelings associated with Stalin have contributed to this, despite all the efforts of the post-soviet capitalist ideological apparatuses to recuperate him.

>>2264643
>Fundamentally the western liberals do not understand this. They think that somewhat the "Putler Regime" … has some profound ideological connection to the Stalin era USSR
I think there's a more plausible argument that they've got this upside down. It's more that the Stalin era can't be understood merely in terms of Marxist ideology but also through the lens of Russian history, political culture, and psychology that leads to periodic lurches into a certain kind of defensive reflex or… security-first mentality.

>>2264680
the same way james connolly and other irish nationalists are recuperated in ireland to be a vague nationalist symbol

>>2264680

I sometimes forget that there is a reason why your flag is that of 'gaynazi'. It suits you well.

I am not all surprised that my, (in passing, because the main point in my post was to describe why post-soviet states have tried to recuperate Stalin) very materialist explanation of the enormous pro-Stalin sentiment in Russia, provoked you (a kind of trot if I am not mistaken, correct?) to write a psycho-cultural retort.

>leads to periodic lurches into a certain kind of defensive reflex or… security-first mentality.


This is PRECISELY the problem with the Russian psyche, and a good reminder that they too are merely human beings, and thus very much capable of incredible feats of degeneration:

Their lurch is only periodic, when, at least if the goal is socialism & communism, it must be made eternal.

No aspect of society must ever be excluded from the possibility of gosplan's totalizing embrace. Human society must become a single elegant machine.

Put in a more colourful way: "If man's every breath isn't controlled, eventually he will rape you with it. And you will deserve it for not having taken the measures to control it."

t. Your faithful totalitarian, mass-murdering, eamobulgaric judeobolshevik enemy.

>>2082477
>>2082473
this is a cycling ocurring event.
>>2085880
>in the DPRK everything is not as shitty as LeBron and the Americans paint it, but it is worth understanding that the degenerating socialism there
Read The Principles of Communism by Engels, question 1.

>>2092477
>who broke a country into 15 pieces
that's yeltsin.

>>2264811

I think its fair to say there is a kind of degenerated socialism in the DPRK; I think its also fair to say, given its survival as a relatively planned economy to this day compared to the defunct USSR and modern China, that it has the least degenerated form of socialism in the world today.

There is at least as much to learn as there is to critique.

>>2092477

An independent ukraine formed before the bolsheviks took full power. They in fact recuperated most of it for the USSR.

If possible, someone should link Yulin's video on this if they remember the title.

>>2264841
>I think its fair to say there is a kind of degenerated socialism in the DPRK
there's no degeneration as long the working class is emancipated, fullfilling Question 1's answer. that's what AES do, even if they have to change some other stuff because of the material conditions.

>>2264869

That's vague though. What does it mean for the proletariat to be liberated?

Liberation in general is a very nebulous term that many an ideology lays claim to.

>>2264882
it's not vague. when capitalists can twist laws, overthrow their own governments they don't like, convice governments to impose special taxing conditions, subsidizes, and governmental protectionism, they survive punishment from their hiddeus crimes or get preferential treatment, they are allowed to steal labor value, freely hoard, and speculate, that's the opposite of their liberation.

>>2264811
>Read The Principles of Communism by Engels, question 1.
Освобождение пролов - это когда они даже в интернете не могут написать, как у них все хорошо?

>>2264936

Yes absolutely. It frees them from the immense degeneracy of the contemporary world internet, with its pornography, social media addiction, culture wars, advertising, etc, etc, etc.

While one should engage in both study and critique of the dprk, this is definitely not one of those areas.l that deserves critique.

A physically disconnected intranet is absolutely the way to go for a socialist state, with only limited & controlled access to the global internet in universities for the purpose of research.

>>2264955
>Yes absolutely. It frees them from the immense degeneracy of the contemporary world internet, with its pornography, social media addiction, culture wars, advertising, etc, etc, etc
При виде сих оправданий луддита вспоминается одна басня:

Голодная кума Лиса залезла в сад;
‎В нем винограду кисти рделись.
У кумушки глаза и зубы разгорелись;
А кисти сочные, как яхонты горят;
‎Лишь то беда, висят они высоко:
‎Отколь и как она к ним ни зайдет,
‎Хоть видит око,
‎Да зуб неймет.
‎Пробившись попусту час целой,
Пошла и говорит с досадою: «Ну, что́ ж!
‎На взгляд-то он хорош,
‎Да зелен — ягодки нет зрелой:
‎Тотчас оскомину набьешь».

>>2264997
Sour grapes? How?

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/rus/zxxx/202505/t20250507_11616681.html

Ooooh, so that's why Putin has responded to Vietnamese PM with "from taiga to the British seas, Red Army is the strongest of all". XI did a dominant-worded letter to Russia, and Putin has responded with non-sequitur to Vietnam, for some reason

>>2265402
China is finally becoming more internationalist with its fellow communist neighbours in Vietnam and Laos. The autism in the south china sea has been agreed upon by both parties. I think China is forcing Russia to follow its line, which is good.

>>2265405
Yeah, China is attempting to influence Russian media, to shift the nonsensical entrenched anti-Chinese sentiment towards realistic pro-Chinese one. Russian academia and media are resisting, they love anti-communism - and American money - too much

- An action plan for joint film production between the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation and the State Administration of Cinematography of the People's Republic of China until 2030;
- Memorandum of Understanding in Joint Cooperation between Lomonosov Moscow State University (Russian Federation) and the People's Daily newspaper (People's Republic of China);
- Memorandum of Cooperation between Lomonosov Moscow State University and the Media Corporation of China;
- Agreement on Strategic Cooperation between St. Petersburg State University and the State Administration of Foreign Specialists of the People's Republic of China;
- Memorandum on Deepening Cooperation between the Federal State Unitary Enterprise All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK) and the Media Corporation of China;
- . Memorandum of Understanding and cooperation between the TV Channel "Russia Today" and the Media Corporation of China;
- Memorandum of Strategic Cooperation between Russia Today TV Channel and Xinhua News Agency (People's Republic of China);
- Memorandum of Cooperation between the National Media Group and the Media Corporation of China;
- Memorandum of Cooperation in the field of news between Gazprom-Media Holding Joint Stock Company and Xinhua News Agency (People's Republic of China);
- Memorandum of Understanding and Cooperation between the All-Russian Public Movement of Children and Youth "Movement of the First" and the All-China Youth Federation (2025-2026).

>>2265415
I am amazed that Vietnam and China has relaxed relations and peacefully drawn up an agreed upon territorial boundary so easily. It's given me quite a lot of hope.

>>2265418
Relations between China and Vietnam were tense only in Westoid propaganda https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/08/pentagon-vietnam-military-china-us-war/ It was wishful thinking

>>2265439
I was referring to the spits of land in the sea.

>>2264936
in what earth is "having internet" a goal for working emancipation? don't be dense. and that's to protect them from propaganda.
just in night I was talking with a brainless child, showing him how bordiga got so propagandized with the ᴉuᴉlossnW regime, he thought hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW would be the savior of europe from the anglo terror.
of course the anarchist couldn't cope with the reality.

>>2265652
Bordiga was perfect, though

>>2265652
>in what earth is "having internet" a goal for working emancipation?
Приехали. Технический прогресс никак вообще не помогает пролам в их борьбе.

>and that's to protect them from propaganda.

Ааа, так ты народ за быдло, которое само распознать пропаганду не может, считаешь. Пропагандой, разумеется, считается все то, что не по нраву великолепному, неотразимому, грациозному, прекрасному - товарищу Киму.

>>2265800
>Пропагандой, разумеется, считается все то, что не по нраву великолепному, неотразимому, грациозному, прекрасному - товарищу Киму.

Riiight. Do you have any proof he does this, or do you just ASSOOOOOM?

>>2265812
>докажи что зимой падает снег!11!
Да не, лол, он же не делает этого.
Каждый кореец с КНДР после сложного рабочего дня идет домой, а потом заходит в интернет у себя на домашнем компьютере и читает, как мы тут обсуждаем их жизнь, параллельно посматривая на ютубе, как загнивают крысы с юга.

>>2265841
>Kim has personally forbidden you to read leftypol

>>2264997

Luddite? Malakies. The DPRK has an intranet. Its physically unconnected to the world internet, and thus free of its capitalist sicknesses.

Stop behaving a ignorant degenerate perestroikoid. Clearly the 90s didn't rape you and your family harshly enough.

>>2265859
>Its physically unconnected to the world internet
Верно, но вот только есть нюанс!
>and thus free of its capitalist sicknesses
Доступ простым пролам в интернет - это, как считает товарищ Ким и ЦК, капиталистический атавизм. А вот товарищу Киму можно сидеть в интернете, он то знает, как избежать всех тамошних опасностей.

>>2266494

Again malakies. There is actually also internet access in universities for research.

Just admit you are post-soviet degenerate, drunk on liberal ideological catechism, who is addicted to some combination of readily available internet pornography, gambling, social media slop, culture war garbage, etc.

Ergo, you cannot but think of it as the worst betrayal of the ordinary Korean worker that he is restricted in accessing from such filth.

You are a perfect example of why I tend and more disagree with the Stalin era Soviet penal labour system. Its simply a waste; Filth like you is a net loss to society. You and your family need simply be killed off and your organs recycled to help people far more worthy of life.

>>2264798
>No aspect of society must ever be excluded from the possibility of gosplan's totalizing embrace. Human society must become a single elegant machine. Put in a more colourful way: "If man's every breath isn't controlled, eventually he will rape you with it. And you will deserve it for not having taken the measures to control it."
You sound like a character in We. (Which is a very interesting Russian sci-fi novel.)

>I am not all surprised that my, (in passing, because the main point in my post was to describe why post-soviet states have tried to recuperate Stalin) very materialist explanation of the enormous pro-Stalin sentiment in Russia, provoked you (a kind of trot if I am not mistaken, correct?) to write a psycho-cultural retort.

Well I was thinking about the siloviki. Russia isn't unique in there being a security apparatus but Putin himself comes out of it and referred to the system he was building in the 1990s as a "vertical of power" (or вертикаль власти) as a way to hold the country together. And it's this that has continuities with Russian history and political culture. Stalin didn't invent that either but he understood the need for a chain of command, control, and loyalty that runs from the top down. There's just a whole bunch of these people in Russia, and the government loves to give them uniforms so they feel important. This has a long history (which also predates the Soviet Union, Friedrich Engels alluded to this class or stratum – in both the civil and military branches – in the 1850s, "a set of cunning, low-minded, narrowly-egotistical subordinates … ambitious from vanity and love of gain; sold, life and soul to the state, and yet trying, daily and hourly, to sell the state, in detail, whenever they can make a profit by it") and there are many reasons for it that come from history, and maybe geography to some extent because the country is just so large and sprawling.

>>2266511
>You and your family need simply be killed off and your organs recycled to help people far more worthy of life.

Gay nazis and liberals don't understand that the decisions stalin and other bolsheviks made weren't made as a result of some psychological character, but were rational, calculated responses to real conditions
they don't really believe that socialism is "scientific", they think it's a sort of virtue signal, rather than an actual description of the methodology

they don't believe that a scientist can dissect a frog without secretly getting off on it, because they don't understand the mindset of a scientist, it is alien to them
they think that when a physicists drops a ball from the top of a leaning tower, the physicist is exhibiting some kind of deeply held psychological / cultural entanglement with the act of dropping balls
in fact, the physicist is measuring gravitational acceleration

thus liberals and gay nazis view marxists with the same deep suspicion that normies view surgeons, veterinarians, pathologists, etc: "they must be perverts"

>>2266650
>I said so

Can some russian here explain the caste system of russian prisons?

>>2266511
>There is actually also internet access in universities for research.
Кванмен (광명망) не подключен к остальным странам. Не интернет это. Скорее, локальная сеть по всему Пхеньяну.

>Just admit you are post-soviet degenerate, drunk on liberal ideological catechism, who is addicted to some combination of readily available internet pornography, gambling, social media slop, culture war garbage, etc.

У Гегеля есть замечательная статейка - "Кто мыслит абстрактно?". Думаю, ты кое-кого в ней узнаешь.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/se/abstract.htm

>You are a perfect example of why I tend and more disagree with the Stalin era Soviet penal labour system.

Без комментариев. Красная фашня как она есть.

>>2266709
Да нечего объяснять. Касты сейчас практически исчезли.

>>2266709
>Can some russian here explain the caste system of russian prisons?
Well, I will simplify it for you because I am not an expert myself and every prison has its own nuances, plus the system has probably changed a little bit over the years. (And it's not like every prisoner experienced the same version of it)

>Muzhiki

The prisoner normies, the "grey mass" and so on. The majority of incarcerated are in this category.

>Blatniye

The prisoner aristocracy, criminal authorities, people who have connections in the criminal world, they control the black market and stuff. Also they make sure the caste system and its customs are strictly followed

>Petukhi/Obizhenniye/Kozly

The lowest category of prisoners. They do the worst jobs that nobody wants to do (especially cleaning the shit from toilets and similar stuff) and get beaten regularly. There is a lot of homophobia involved here, "petukh" is literally "rooster" but also "faggot".

Pedos are automatically in this caste, and the way how other prisoners get into this caste is, well, rape. In the prisoner jargon, "opuskanie" (lowering/dipping). If the blatniye decide you've sinned against the prison's moral code, you get fucked in the ass and since then you are a petukh.

According to the customs, the normal prisoners (muzhiki) are supposed to not talk with petukhs, not to sit next to them and not to touch them or their things.


There are many more categories and subcategories, sometimes the snitches have their own caste, sometimes the caste names are completely different, it's a mess. And it's better to not know much about this.

>>2268308
Opuskanie is rarely straight up rape, someone will rub their dick on the new opushenny's lips and he'll join that caste.

When is Putins televised statement. I've heard it may be quite an important one.

>>2268354
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