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https://theconversation.com/how-the-u-s-could-in-fact-make-canada-an-american-territory-246877

<In one treaty, the U.S. annexed the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming. It subsequently illegally invaded Indigenous territory in the west.


>Canada could be next — perhaps not immediately as the 51st state, but quite possibly as a U.S. territory that would deny Canadians any voting rights for Congress or the presidency, allow only some autonomy and make questions of citizenship ambiguous. The constitutional architecture exists in the U.S. to make it happen.


<That’s the wrong reading. How Trump could make good on the threat can be found in the U.S. Constitution. There is both potential and precedent for the U.S. to acquire territory through cession or subjugation.


what is the chance this happens in practice? How does NATO figure into this?
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>>2246226
> Exactly what it says on the tin dumbass. Too many people.
IN REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU ARE SO STUPID HOLY SHIT

>>2246224
>being against something plastered with fascist buzzwords and dogwhistles is fascst

nice psyop.

>>2246125
Best case scenario, and this is absolutely best case and even then its still wildly unrealist. Is that trumps war with canada becomes his Ukraine. Thats if he has a bunch of secret miliary factories tucked away somewhere and still manages to maintain enough power and support in the middle of rolling black outs and food riots. Canada isnt iraq its right next door and the U.S empire isnt going to be able to pull off the

>worry not citizens, consuming wins the war here while our boys and girls win the war over there


The last war absent of treats for the American people was like the civil war. Going to be hard to convince americans to be living like extras in cold mountain to kill our neighbors north. I wont doubt trumps stupidity but I doubt he could even get the support to launch an invasion in the first place. If he did the most likely outcome would be a rapid descent into civil war. One where I guess Trump and a random assortment of states with populations less than some counties in L.A. States that are in the middle of multiple crisis, bird flu, measle outbreaks, tainted milk, yearly climate disasters, collapsing expensive car centric infustructure and likely facing their own internak civil wars. So trump and lets say Texas and Florida successfully maintain Christian shria law in the cities and keep the infustructure running. Itll be that, Israel and the trump state vs the whole world.

>>2246231
Obviously Trump isn't actually going to invade Canada, however, if he did, Canada would be done within days. All their major cities are right on the border, the US could just conduct an air war against the arctic north until all the stragglers were dead or surrender.

>>2246233
Liberals actually believe Trump will fuck over every major US-Canada multinational over a war 60 miles from our border and turn Toronto into Baghdad.

This is what happens when you have no understanding of Capital Acummulation.

>>2246229
>What do you think the term 'over'populated is in reference to, itself?
>IN REFERENCE TO WHAT
Too. Many. People. Meds.

>>2246214
>because of resources being linear and population growth being exponential
except we're not fucking rabbits, and most of the world is dipping below replacement rate. All the "population explosion" alarmist theories are bullshit, and its becoming increasingly obvious with time passing and countries developing.

>>2246243
> Too many people
I see so overpopulation is when the number reaches THE BAD NUMBER (undefined) and then its 'over'populated.

Meanwhile Malthus:

> The happiness of a country does not depend, absolutely, upon its poverty, or its riches, upon its youth, or its age, upon its being thinly, or fully inhabited, but upon the rapidity with which it is increasing, upon the degree in which the yearly increase of food approaches to the yearly increase of an unrestricted population.


It's because of linear growth of resources you absolute fucking mongrel. Did you fail every class you ever took?

>>2246249
I mean yes we will not have a population explosion but our resources are still running out

>>2246243
Like please read the definition for a tautology before you engage in an internet debate ever again. So your stupidity cant psychically harm the next anon.


>>2246261
Youre too stupid to talk to.

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>>2246052
>>2246053
Based and Mexicopilled

>>2246263
Weirdo

>>2246233
x2 dubs of truth

>>2246053
The Tory Entity will be no longer yet!

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>>2246233
Okay lets say trump just has the airforce level Toronto. The Canadian military and a mass of pissed off refugees pour into the U.S through our massive border. Gain international support and start dismantling the U.S infustructure from the inside out. Trump would be lucky if the war was a quagmire. Its going to be a rapid defeat ending with him swinging in the Hauge or blowing his brains out in burger bunker. Its oger dude, we're not invading canada, we haven't won a war that wasnt just bombing and bullying poor people.

>>2246597
>The Canadian military
so, like 12 guys?

>>2247252
It's like 70k iirc, more than enough to form the basis of an insurgency.

>>2247401
They won't do shit. They're like Scottish nationalists talking a big game but will be absolutely docile when imposed on.

>>2247402
Subduing the Scots literally took centuries though.

Canadians would surrender without a single shot fired. It would be a 2 week news cycle sort of thing, Canadians know they are already effectively not a real country.

158 years mark down. 92 years left to go.

>>2247448
this is true, Canada is very reliant on trade, it comprises 65% of their total GDP, well above the global average. I'm confident most canucks would rather live as part of the USA than face a few decades of crippling austerity if Trump ever decided to stop trading

>>2247462
>I'm confident most canucks would rather live as part of the USA than face a few decades of crippling austerity
Not if it meant giving up basic shit like voting rights and the social safety net, plus language and treaty rights for Quebec and Indigenous people. Not to mention that Trump's trade fuckery has clearly hit the Americans just as bad, so it's not like annexation would even improve conditions for anybody.

>>2247462
the US is going through crippling austerity regardless, so the choice is between crippling austerity AND being the 51st state or crippling austerity but you get to keep the last vestiges of public healthcare

>>2247475
>>2247479
if Canada hopes to pin their sovereignty on the chance Americans would suffer just as bad in the event of trade stopping completely I think they're going to be sorely disappointed. 40% of Canadas total GDP is import/export trade with their neighbor to the south and trade with Canada makes up 4% of the American GDP. also It's cute that Canadians still think they're going to have public healthcare yet alone a social safety net in this scenario, with austerity those are the first to go

>>2247515
Canada is screwed regardless of what happens

>>2247515
>40% of Canadas total GDP is import/export trade with their neighbor to the south and trade with Canada makes up 4% of the American GDP
If the Americans had competent leadership then you'd be right, but they don't. Trump is currently sabotaging trade relations with the entire world, which is obviously hurting their own economy and giving Europe and China a stronger incentive for closer trade relations with Canada.
>It's cute that Canadians still think they're going to have public healthcare yet alone a social safety net in this scenario
But we won't get them as part of the US either, so what's the incentive to accept annexation?

>>2247515
> if Canada hopes to pin their sovereignty on the chance Americans would suffer just as bad in the event of trade stopping completely
I mean, see, if Trump had focused his efforts into annexing Canada, and threatening a massive trade war against Canada to achieve this, I think it would be a no-brainer, but Trump instead chose to focus on trade deficits which means leveraging a trade war against the whole world, americans will suffer a lot more than canucks in the short term, and Trump has crammed himself into some sort of stupid trap where the USMCA matters immensely, a lot more than it would matter otherwise

I feel compelled to remind people that Trump's talk of "economic pressure" to achieve Canada's annexation is basically just the use of sanctions to install a new government, and that this has literally never worked.

>>2246597
>Okay lets say trump just has the airforce level Toronto
real life isn't an 80s action thriller

>>2247547
It worked in Nicaragua in the 90s though

>>2247547
>Trump's talk of "economic pressure" to achieve Canada's annexation is basically just the use of sanctions to install a new government
source on this?

>>2247644
The source is Trump's own words. He said he would use economic pressure to compel Canada to accept annexation.

>>2247679
source on it being trumps own words?


>>2247687
Trump intuits the dialectic:
“Canada and the United States, that would really be something,” he said. “You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like, and it would also be much better for national security.”

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/708570127
LMAO
Rightoids really are globalists.

>>2247447
and now all they can do is v00t?

>>2109422
came here after election day to say you're wrong

>>2109422
>Canada is gonna get govern by trumpoids after Trudeau.
C&s doomer mark carney won instead

Why stop at Canada? If they’re not a country, Australia, UK, and New Zealand should all be part of the US as well

>>2149865
>they're just looting office supplies.
>"The military industrial complex is a good thing, we need to spend $10,000,000,000 more dollars on our blank checks that are never ever audited"
yoink!

How dare infringe canada's right of self determination to be english crown' colony

Expect the unexpected eh

>>2249720
>If they’re not a country, Australia, UK, and New Zealand should all be part of the US as well
Yeah, they should. If they were big boy countries they would have their own flags.

American hegemony is rooted first and foremost on its network of allies. Annexing Canada is more than possible but it would be completely idiotic move. Americans survive only because countries in Eurasia are too busy fighting each other. If they would unite against them they would eat americans alive.

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>>2278763
>If they would unite against them they would eat americans alive.
The problem is they're not smart enough to do that. If they were, they wouldn't be fighting each other in the first place. Just replace the aliens in this comic with America and the humans with every country besides America and the EU.

Why hasn't the burgers annexed maple syrup county?
Has the dream fizzled burgerbois like everything these days???


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