https://theconversation.com/how-the-u-s-could-in-fact-make-canada-an-american-territory-246877
<In one treaty, the U.S. annexed the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming. It subsequently illegally invaded Indigenous territory in the west.
>Canada could be next — perhaps not immediately as the 51st state, but quite possibly as a U.S. territory that would deny Canadians any voting rights for Congress or the presidency, allow only some autonomy and make questions of citizenship ambiguous. The constitutional architecture exists in the U.S. to make it happen.
<That’s the wrong reading. How Trump could make good on the threat can be found in the U.S. Constitution. There is both potential and precedent for the U.S. to acquire territory through cession or subjugation.what is the chance this happens in practice? How does NATO figure into this?
>>2109380Well, first, the whole of Canada wouldn't be a 51st state. They would annex each Canadian state.
Second, it isn't going to happen. Canada is gonna get govern by trumpoids after Trudeau. So Canada is likely gonna enter in a special socio-economic structure with the US. With a shared army. Apart from NATO.
>>2109380>what is the chance this happens in practice?It seems unlikely since it would be extremely and unnecessarily disruptive. It would alienate America's allies and neutral countries, win Trump no political favours, and create a long term political headache for no real gain. Even if it did go ahead I can't see the next dem president seriously putting in the effort to maintain it. It could happen, but honestly even if he ordered a takeover I'm not confident that the military would even go along with it.
>How does NATO figure into this?It doesn't. I'm sure the rest of NATO would protest but Europe is basically completely disarmed. They need the Americans to stay because they literally can't defend themselves.
>>2109432Quebec at least would have to be a separate state if they didn't want to be dealing with constant unrest over language rights. That means that the maritime provinces would probably be their own state as well since they would be split off from the rest of Canada. The western provinces would probably push hard to be their own state too since their heads would explode if all their policies were dictated by Ontario. If the Americans wanted to be able to actually govern the country without issue then they would need at least 4 states.
>>2148709If they continue this simping behaviour instead of taking a strong stance in favour of Canadian independence then they will probably lose, or at least get stuck with a minority government. Honestly the fact that our right have been such suckups to the Americans even after this could seriously damage their long term prospects. Personally if I were PM I'd invoke section 33 of the constitution and make it illegal to advocate for annexation, then crack down hard on them. Vidrel. I'd also probably start looking into a nuclear deterrent and security cooperation with Russia and China, but ofc no spineless lib politician would ever do that.
>>2148710They're not feigning it, people would be pissed. Nobody here wants to be part of the US except for a handful of right wing schizos, and even ordinarily right leaning military types have been talking openly of armed resistance. Whether they would meaningfully resist and to what extent though is another question.
>>2148716>It seems unlikely since it would be extremely and unnecessarily disruptive.<Skullfucking and looting the western hemisphere (and perhaps other places as well) ensuring the US becomes the largest country on the planet, with the largest oil, gas and mineral reserves, a working age population rivaling China, and 95% surrounded by oceanvs
<Letting American power decline in order to prop up recalcitrant shitlib never-Trump eurocrats and Canadians who try keep out American businesses with regulations and tariffs, whilst letting the Chinese squeeze out what's left of American market share and soft powerThat's the play here. It's obviously very disruptive, but what are the Europeans going to do, send strongly worded letters and condemn the US at the UN?
>>2148734They only really need the resources. That's what, Alberta? The Ring of Fire? Add in Greenland, and there's still barely anyone living in those territories compared to the rest of the US.
I don't think they care about allies anymore. What's happening in America is the formation of a "open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital" as described by Dimitrov. With the caveat that tech/industry are also onboard with this.
America's interests are the interests of it's ruling class. Who explicitly want this. Like who among them is seriously opposing this? Mark Cuban?
>>2148790>>2148766Canada wouldn't be annexed as states, they would be unorganized territories like american samoa. Former canadian citizens would be therefore US nationals not US citizens and would not have the right to participate in federal elections or govern themselves instead a territorial governor would be appointed to rule them.
I.e. canada would become a colony of the US not part of it.
you're high if you think they will give Canadians the right to vote
>>2109438The population of New England is 15 million yet they get 6 states
Canada is basically an extension of the Northeast
>>2149059We're coming for you beaver boy.
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>>2148766>>2148863>b-but C-Copenobody cares, literally.
The collapse of the US Empire will inevitably involve a series of COPES & ACCEPTANCES.
The Canada vs. USA war WILL become real!
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