Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 16:34:00 No. 333197
Well the situation with PS is that Halla-aho has unified the party, now he steps down but does not disappear - he will still hold considerable power in the party for a year or two atleast and still sits in the Helsinki city coinsil. It's too early to tell where the party will head now but what is it is not is the 'Finnish Rural Party', those old 'leash thr ctrime-barons' populist elements have now been completely purged and the party is solidly conservative and right wing. Still bonkers, mind you, none of the possible replacenet candidates are sane or stable people in any way.
Other news: the social- and healthcare referom 'SoTe' went through. *party whistles*
So now there are 18 or so social services and health care 'provinces' with elected government. This has been in the making from, 2015 at least. Probably some share of the municipal tax will now be diverted to these 'provinces'. that's still future how that will be handled we'll see but the first election should be in early 2022 - ho hum.
>>332641 This is fine, we have some passive swedish knowledge, but the level of collequalism here goes at above at lest my head :(
>>332610 Thank you.
Are we looking for a moderaterna led goverment in Sweden in 2022 (I doubt not right way though)?
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 18:14:44 No. 333374
>>333197 Well, this shit was about "market rents". There is a claim that most swedes don't want market rents so if Moderaterna (macht frei) and their "omg market rents so good!" - coalition wins the next election we can draw the conclusion that swedes are just as retarded as I think they are. If Ayn Rand Lööf gets anywhere close to ruling anything but her own kid I am srsly defecting to the DPRK.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 21:22:59 No. 333821
>>333366 >Ⓐ >☭ lysmaskar ligger geranterat bakom detta
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 21:47:04 No. 333875
>>333821 Säpo-Kenneth igen.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 22:24:39 No. 333966
>>333875 i mitt sinne är det Lennart Bladh. han dog aldrig, utan blev rekryterad av myndigheterna då han var sanningen på spåret. varje gång något skumt händer så är det inte lysisar utan mantisar som ligger bakom
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 23:17:00 No. 334078
>>333966 Ja, varför inte. Det ena är ju lika troligt som det andra.
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 14:40:21 No. 335302
>>330114 >Halla-Aho had actual popularity among proles. True. I assume he'll become like a Heinäluoma (famous old demari) kind of figure within the Finns party. He'll bring his considerable personal votes to the party pot and is able to influence its policy, if all goes well - and he's a kind of guy who likes that sort of thing. Anyway his real problem is his past writings and his way too long membership in Suomen Sisu, a fascist organization. Along with a not entirely ironic cult of personality he has going. All that makes a bit too tough optics for a prime minister, say.
So he steps down now, when it's convenient.
The talk will be all about the budget in august when they will be having that party meeting of theirs.
No worries, Purra's a Sisu-person too.
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 14:58:39 No. 335321
>>335302 Yeah, the fascistic stuff isn't just optics either, it's a real deal breaker for many prole voters. I know a guy at work who's got serious Persu sympathies. Worked the same factory job for 20 years, doesn't speak a foreign language and is scared of immigration, but he just can't stand the open racism of the party. I swear to God, if the Left was sble to just listen to guys like him on immigration, and actually do the smallest thing for the workers, Persut would be a non-entity among the proles. Depressing.
Anonymous 2021-06-26 (Sat) 18:06:15 No. 340272
So is the Swedish Social Democrats gonna form a government?
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 04:20:00 No. 345362
Hi, not Scandinavian, just posting to say that I miss Jan Myrdal every day :(palestine Palestine
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 19:39:44 No. 346546
SAATANA PERKELE VIINAA
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 19:41:39 No. 346549
Blir det nyval eller?
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 21:39:04 No. 346851
>>346549 /kafferep/ med talmannen först, men efter det kanske. om inte C kan tänka sig kohandla med V
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 17:52:58 No. 349831
Hur är stämningen i Sverige efter polismordet?
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 17:57:08 No. 349843
>>349831 Petite-bourgeois corporatists, liberals and neocons
seething Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 20:37:29 No. 350160
>>329853 Verkligen. Hängt på leftypol sedan den gick i graven.
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 21:55:32 No. 350344
>>349831 "En attack på vårt fria samhälle!!!"
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 22:07:35 No. 350377
>>350344 "Samhället måste agera!"
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 09:44:04 No. 351484
>>211966 hey, Krautfag here, can anyone give me a short rundown of how shit is going up there?
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 09:47:57 No. 351487
>>349831 Normala svenskar upprörda, parasiter glada
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 10:47:41 No. 351549
>>351484 Sweden is an absolute shitshow. Norway being mountainporkies. Danes are ok i guess? Neoliberal right wing populist coalition taking power soon in Finland.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 13:33:06 No. 351669
>>351549 don't both norway and denmark both have reactionary parties in goberment? also
>Norway >mountainporkies >not mountainuyghurs Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 13:35:55 No. 351675
>>351669 they are soccdems, soccdems who are willing to sacrifice being pro immigration to stay in rule
if that makes them reactionary is up to you
and swedish soccdems, who are among the other few still relevant "lefty" parties in Europe, are going down the same path unsurprisingly
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 14:03:45 No. 351696
>>351675 >and swedish soccdems, who are among the other few still relevant "lefty" parties in Europe, are going down the same path unsurprisingly fair point
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 14:59:24 No. 351762
>>351487 Parasiterna är kapitalisterna. Poliserna är deras skydd.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 15:18:52 No. 351785
>>351762 sverige är ett sånt land som om det inte fanns poliser att slå ner revolutionärer skulle folket bilda miliser att göra det
så de enda polisen skyddar kapitalister mot är desamma de skyddar medelsvennson mot, om du inte anser tjuvar har heder
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 17:53:02 No. 351956
>>351675 >they are soccdems, soccdems who are willing to sacrifice being pro immigration to stay in rule The succs haven't been in power in 8 years, though odds are they'll get back in this fall. At least this time they'll have a decently sized Rødt on their left to call them on their shit policy.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 21:55:55 No. 352489
>>351956 This. Its neoliberal policy to crush the welfare state.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 21:58:48 No. 352492
>>351669 Norwegians fill their mountains with gold. uyghurs fill them with taliban fighters and gay sex.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 04:38:07 No. 352994
>>352458 Why Sp is so popular? Ruralites having false consciousness?
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 05:02:46 No. 353030
>>211966 klass mot klass pic: why is all that garbage on the floor
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 08:54:51 No. 353325
Finns det någon marxistisk förklaring varför bönderna historiskt sett var friare i vissa länder än andra som tex sverige kontra ryssland?
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 08:59:10 No. 353330
>>352994 I think it has something to do with the norwegian countryside still being a viable place to both live and work in, unlike sweden
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 10:01:54 No. 353358
>>352994 >>353330 They seem to be taking a lot of votes from KrF, V, H, FrP voters who are dissatisfied with the current government but don't really get
why the gov sucks.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 13:36:14 No. 353550
Are Norway Parliament proportional? I saw the seat projections and it doesn’t tally with vote %. If it isn’t then how come SV and R don’t make electoral alliance or pacts?
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 17:05:52 No. 353805
>>353550 Semi-proportional, if a party get 4% or more votes, it gets to partake in the deployment of leveling seats, but parties below this only get the initial seats. This is why Rødt currently only has one seat but is projected to get 8 or more.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 20:08:32 No. 354044
>>353612 Socialisera Tobias Hübinettes fastigheter.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 20:11:41 No. 354046
>>351675 I wish Swedish socdems would be like this.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 20:16:52 No. 354058
>>353612 sommarstugor är ett borgerligt påfund
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 21:00:32 No. 358074
>laitan Pohjanmaidan langan päälle >hypään ruotsalaiskielten vastauksia yli >"Jaaha, ei oo mitään tänään" >menen takasin mihin tahansa tein aiemmin Mut ensin nyt uutista Suomelta: Riikka Purra-niminen nainen aio Persen puheenjohtajuudeksi:
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12003400 Parhaillaan on varapuheenjohtaja.
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 12:48:02 No. 359412
>>358141 Stefan "Svetsarn" Löfvén
Stefan "Jag är riksdagen" Löfvén
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 12:54:35 No. 359424
>>358074 Pohjoismaiden. Jos tämä olisi Pohjanmaiden lanka, täällä puhuttaisiin varmaan vielä enemmän ruotsia.
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 12:56:19 No. 359427
>>358074 Ja Riikka Purra on ihan painajaismainen akka. Tatcher 2.0 with juntti charasteristics.
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 20:46:14 No. 360136
FINBROS Look at this shit. Apparently by the average wealth per adult, we are closer to Eastern Europe than to Western European countries, certainly much closer to East Yuropoors than Scandis? Now, this info is from Päivän Byrokraatti (I'll link it in the end), but the numbers check out. It doesn't surprise me we are way bellow other Nordics, but it does surprise me we're actually closer to the old Eastern Bloc countries.
1. What are the causes of this (I mean actual causes, not what PB pushes)
2. What conclusions should we draw from this in terms of the conditions of the Finnish proletariat, and our strategy going forward and
3. Should we seced from the Nordic General and take our rightful place among our East Europen comrades?
Here's the PB article, if you can read it without grinding your teeth to dust:
https://paivanbyrokraatti.com/2021/07/06/suomi_jaa_jalkeen_lansimaista/?fbclid=IwAR2RL7IC2uPEswEj0IUPtYF4VE4AteSNLu27pG5dbMCCmZKyJf8Wk-Oumrg Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 21:20:20 No. 360201
>>360189 Why is Finland so far behind though? Is it particularly aggressive against tax evasion or something?
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 21:37:37 No. 360224
>>360201 I don't by that it's simply a difference in billionaires. In 2001 the Swedish and Finnish average was about the same, meaning Finland has fallen behind massively.
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 06:29:28 No. 360974
>>358141 So what is his new coalition going to be?
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 09:27:00 No. 365809
Bump. WHAT HAPPENED??
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 10:37:59 No. 365842
>>365809 same goberment as before, except they need to find a new landsbygdsminister (rural minister). or maybe they can re-appoint Jennie Nilsson?
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 15:20:05 No. 366230
>>365842 And this whole debacle doesn't end badly atleast some of the parties involved, or do they calculate there's enough time to elections for the voters to forget? Is there though? I read somewhere that the next potential crisis with Löfven's minority cabinet will be with the budget at autumn.
All I can say it's hard to imagine that sort of thing play out here. If this happened here, the V-party would feel it in the next elections and get reminded of it all until eternity. "You want to dissolve the government again, eh?"
Why replace the rural minister specifically?
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 20:01:17 No. 366675
>>366230 >Why replace the rural minister specifically? she resigned in order to regain her seat in parliament so she could take part in the vote
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 11:54:15 No. 367757
>>367696 Even Ap and SV are rising. That’s a good sign. How many seats they gonna take?
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 13:28:47 No. 367873
>>367696 What's happening in Norway to cause this rise for the Red party? And what is the Red party doing right? Vikingbros, 'splain yo' selvez.
Red Man 2021-07-10 (Sat) 13:37:58 No. 367893
>>367873 Actually I am one of the campaign staffers in the Red Party so I can try to explain.
In short terms it is mostly because the Red Party is very uncompromising, even to the other left wing parties. So people see that they actually do what they are told.
They have also with just one representative done a lot of stuff and people see them as a very clear opposition.
The rise of the Red Party is phenomenal, only rivaling the once right wing populist party The Progressive Party.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 15:37:40 No. 368021
>>367893 Since it isn’t proportional representation, would forming an electoral pact with SV get you more seats? Would R even want to?
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 15:58:19 No. 368044
>>211966 Mysig bio. Var någonstans? :-)
technocracy Technocracy Red Man 2021-07-10 (Sat) 16:09:26 No. 368058
>>368021 The problem is that SV wants go into a coalition with AP (Labour), for Red that is a no-go and therefore making an electoral pact would be unfeasble and that is despite our policies being very much alike.
If I could try to make a comparison, then I would say SV believes in putting socialism through electoral means, while Red does believe in a vague sense a revolution.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 16:20:21 No. 368070
>>368058 A few more questions, based Red Man.
1. What is SV?
2. Also, has there been some happenings in Norway that would cause people to look for alternative?
3. I hear that Red party is still somewhat Communist and has actual backing within actual working class people, like oil and public transit workers. Is this true?
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 18:41:37 No. 368218
>>368058 It cant be a short term ' get as much seats' agreement? You two have to sync approach to government too?
Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 09:40:17 No. 369265
>>368070 Sosialistisk Venstreparti (socialist left party).
Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 11:51:51 No. 369365
>>367893 >The rise of the Red Party is phenomenal, only rivaling the once right wing populist party The Progressive Party. Ah, yes! The rise of the populists.
technocracy Technocracy Red Man 2021-07-11 (Sun) 14:35:05 No. 369544
>>368070 SV is the Socialist Left Party. They are in theory a socialist party, but in practice a social democratic party (in the real post war sense however). They are trying to become this big-tent left wing party, trying to unite environmentalists, agragrians and so on.
2. Covid-19 has made the differences between the rich and the poor much more apparant. With students struggling, healthcare workers and teachers are even forbid to strike and people lining up to get food more then ever. It has made Red much more appealing to the general population. Now that is in the short term.
In the long term I would say it is the natural tendency of a social democratic country to get rid of its welfare programs. As social democracy is built on class peace, meaning that to not provoke class war (with the high union rates and all that) you go with a boiling the frog movement. Focusing on "effeciency" and stating that this is to make the welfare state better and so on so on. It is a bit hard to explain in a written way for me without me going to deep into how Norwegian Capitalism is organized.
3. This is true yes. It has the word communism on its maximum program, although the leadership does not like that word. Probably the best thing with the Red Party is that it promotes ordinary working class members to its parliamentary lists and not apparatchiks, to a large degree of course.
>>369365 It is true that the Red Party is a populistic party, but what seperates it from other populist parties in Norway (of which we have a had a few). Is that it has a steady growth of members and voters. Now does that mean it will not meet the same problem as Podemos, Syriza and Enhedslisten. Sure, but that is why we have a party democracy.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 14:47:36 No. 369568
>>369544 >It is a bit hard to explain in a written way for me without me going to deep into how Norwegian Capitalism is organized. Please do.
Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 18:52:16 No. 369966
>>369544 >Now does that mean it will not meet the same problem as Podemos, Syriza and Enhedslisten. Isn't Enhedslisten like your sister party? What problem does Enhedslisten face?
Red Man 2021-07-12 (Mon) 23:01:20 No. 373382
>>369568 To start with the problem of social democracy and the Norwegian kind more specifically we need to understand how this specific form of capitalism is organized. So Social Democracy predicates on giving the maximal concession to the workers in the economic and some concessions of the political sphere (in terms of increased democracy, increased women’s rights, minority rights, LGBT rights etc.). As the goal is to the end the class war and going to class peace. It is not just capitalism with welfare like social liberalism. As Social Liberalism predicates on not giving concessions to the workers but helping them with the market.
This class peace is institutionalized by accepting workers unions and establishing capitalistic unions, with the state being the moderator. This is called roughly translated Three Parts Cooperative. In Norway, the workers are (mainly) represented by LO, and capitalists are (mainly) represented by NHO, and the State is the political sphere of the capitalists. The goal of the State is to facilitate that the tensions are as low as possible so that the political field is not changed to drastically. This means that the negotiations are rarely by striking or lockout, but rather through consensus facilitated by the State between LO and NHO. Since the profit rate was so high and the economy back then was not nearly globalized as now, the Norwegian capitalists did not see the reason to exploit the workers as hard as their European counterparts. Instead, they traded this for less political radicalism. Now even if NHO tried to do back then something radical, the state would intervene and fight for the workers in order to keep the peace. During the 50’s and 60’s the class peace was so strong that the liberals who wanted to remove social democracy essentially capitulated to the progressive reforms.
The issue of social democracy as we Marxists know that class peace is fundamentally impossible due to the contradiction of labour and capital. Norwegian Social Democracy specifically predicates on oil and a high rate of profit in order to maintain its high rate of welfare in theory. The issue is that rate of profit has sunk, and oil is becoming less and less demanded in the world market, making it much harder to establish a fair consensus and as we know the capitalist’s nature of infinite expansion has to expand somewhere. This led to partial privatization, splitting public companies, cutting of benefits for the poorest of the working class etc. Which has reinvigorated the class war in Norway.
In order to conclude, the main problem of social democracy is not its imperialism (solely), but rather that the system is predicated on an inherent contradiction that seeks to unite labour and capital.
socialism Socialism Red Man 2021-07-13 (Tue) 16:09:10 No. 374895
>>369966 It has done compromises with the Social Democratic leading it to stagnate like Blocco de Esquerra in Portugal.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 17:06:04 No. 374992
>>373382 Good post. We have essentially the same system in Finland.
True to a degree, but as we know, the capitalists have firmly been moving towards social liberalism. Inside the past year alone two of the biggest employer organizations in Finnish industrial sector have unilaterally decided to end the system of negotiating nationa contracts with the unions. We'll soon see if they're playing as tough in deeds as in speech.
> the main problem of social democracy is not its imperialism This, so much this. The "le imperialism" meme as the go to explanation for Nordic social democracy is a stupid, lazy cop out. Social Democracy was something that, at least in Finland, was created through super intense and militaant class struggle, with Social Democrats pretending to be basically Socialists but more "moderate" and "responsible". Yeah, yeah, I know, SucDems are traitors and they killed Rosa in Krautland etc. etc. but come on. Social Democracy, such as it can be said to have existed as a system distinct from what you call social liberalism, has been disintegrating with ever increasing rapidity as we have become integrated to the imperialist Western economy.
The concessions weren't given by wise and far-seeing capitalists, they were taken by the workers. This needs to be understood by the Communists today.
Red Man 2021-07-13 (Tue) 21:48:40 No. 375585
>>375030 From my comrades on the left wing of Red, we seem to be inspired more by PVDA-PTB of which I have heard they have reached new heights. On the right wing of Red they seem to be more inspired by Enhedslisten, but if you can show me the polls I would be very interested.
With the Red Party I do really think it will rise to 10-15% in the future. There are no parties that really want to take a firm opposition to the gap between the rich and the poor quite so seriously. We also see in Norwegian politics that parties really get a boost when they break the parliamentary limit of 4%, but I can be wrong of course. Also if you are a Danish Comrade tell me about the situation there.
>>374992 Thank you! I am not the best at writing so I appreciate it. However as I know in Finland the left is really struggling there, just as in Sweden. Is there really any hope for a resurgent left in trying to overcome the social democratic quagmire?
socialism Socialism Sage !61KGLATVW. 2021-07-13 (Tue) 21:49:25 No. 375590
Greta Thunberg is the least autistic Nordic person.
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 02:11:02 No. 376238
>>375585 >Enhedslisten, but if you can show me the polls I would be very interested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Danish_general_election Enhedslisten is reaching 8 to 9% in the polls in 2019, and not at the expense of Socialist People's Party and Social Democrats.
I hope it does too. It is interesting to see two different socialist parties appealing to different sections of the country.
I am sorry but I am not European, I just want to know more about the Red Party, PVDA-PTB, Enhedslisten to push my local demsucc (think SV and Die Linke tier) party in that direction Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 16:26:29 No. 377350
>>376918 Oh man I wish Moxnes was even a tenth as based as Stalin. Though don't let VG see that picture!
Red Man 2021-07-14 (Wed) 18:07:53 No. 377562
>>377341 Economically they are similiar (in theory), in fact when writing the blue book which was the basis of Norwegian Social Democracy post WW2 they (Gerhardsen and co) were very much afraid of being linked to how fascists (Quisling) organized their economy.
However one crucial fact which is missing is the context of these reforms. In the case of fascism more specifically the more revolutionary wave of which Strasserism is insipired by the class collaboration is seen as a way to transcend the conflict by Fascists. However Fascists in practice are oppurturnistic and never implement these reforms truly and end up consolidating with the bourgeiois.
As for Social Democracy this is still in the context of bourgeiois parliamentary democracy and comes from the percieved or real threat of revolution. Therefore if these reforms are not implemented then there is a high chance of the workers actually making a revolution.
>>377350 I have met Moxnes a couple of times and he is pretty interesting. As a leader he has the skills and charisma no doubt, the irony with him though is that he defintively a fan of iron-clad centralism within the party similar to the Bolsheviks in the late 1918-1919s.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 18:48:59 No. 377674
>>377562 fascism lowered wages of workers and drove privatization to insane levels
social democrats increased wages and put a lot of industry into the public sector
Neoliberalism is closer to fascism than social democracy
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 20:08:08 No. 377856
Medans Hyresgästföreningen bevisade sig själv vara extremt baserad nyligen med deras motsättning mot marknadshyror utan att förespråka något officiellt parti i vår karusell-riksdag - vad av fackföreningarna?
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 20:55:59 No. 377933
>>375585 >Thank you! I am not the best at writing so I appreciate it. However as I know in Finland the left is really struggling there, just as in Sweden. Is there really any hope for a resurgent left in trying to overcome the social democratic quagmire? Right now the situation seems hopeless in the short term. The Social Democratic party is still rather strong and is associated heavily as the Left in the minds of workers. Aside from this we have the Left Alliance (which I'll for now call VL) which is a satanic abomonation of a radlib party. For my entire life they've staid at 8%, give or take 1%, and they seem to be quite happy occupying this position. They're a thoroughly, completely bourgeoisfied "big tent" party for radlibs.
Aside from these, we have two Communist parties. SKP and KTP. Both are miniscule and isolated. KTP is the more "based" in terms of theory, but they have more historical baggage than actual future potential, as I judge it. They're like monks preserving the integrity of ML theory against opportunist revisionism or whatever, but what good is a revolutionary vanguard that's completely cut off from the masses? I was shortly a member of this party, and while I respect them, I don't see a future there. SKP are a bunch of radlibs, even cringier than the VL.
The VL does have some working class base in the construction trades, nurses and rural workers of the North. But the party is led by a Finnish-Swedish rich kid intellectual, and her ilk has completely taken charge. They take their working class support for granted, and don't seem to wonder at all why literally all frustration at SocDems is channeled to the far right rather than left. They're just not interested in truly radical politics, or even basic class politics.
It all seems very bleak. My only position now is to try building working class consciousness from within the union movement, community organizing or something along those lines. Actual proles, even the ones who sympathize the far right, are pretty smart and easilly open to persuasion and solidarity. I think part of the problem is that the history of class struggle in Finland is particularilly bloody and difficult, more so than in other Nordic countries. Workers actually appreciare Social Democracy for this reason, and are ultimately reluctant to take up the arms of class war once again.
I'm still hopeful though. I can't see it right now, but there's something brewing. I also believe that once the class concsious starts taking shape, it will also be all the more militant.
To put it in another way: In some Western countries, especially Burgerland, you can see a willingness and curiosity for some kind of class consciousness, but people don't quite know what it entails and how to get there. In Finland there's an obvious necessity and growing preassure for class consciousness, but people do know what it entails and what it'll take, so they are reluctant and unwilling.
What I find difficult to understand is, why does Norway have so much better (if still not good) situation with the Left. If you were to guess, what would you say is the difference between the conditions of the Left in Norway and Sweden, for example?
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 20:59:24 No. 377944
>>377856 >Borde jag som Marxist-Leninist gå med i SAC? jag misstänker att de inte är superpeppade på att ha ML:ar som medlemmar. men jag tror inte det skadar att ha ett örat åt deras håll åtminstone. jag har lite grejer att ta upp med min lokala SAC-avdelning
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 21:01:14 No. 377948
Good editorial about the role of state intelligence agencies, with a predictable tard in the comment. Translate with google.
https://www.nordnorskdebatt.no/myndighetene-er-pa-farlige-veier/o/5-124-133064 ?
Red Man 2021-07-14 (Wed) 23:14:56 No. 378238
>>377948 I got that brochure on my letterbox lol
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 20:14:39 No. 380158
Is it a coincidence that Swedish union rates take a huge decline the moment the country joins the EU?
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 16:29:23 No. 398528
>>377856 Ja, en stor del av deras grej är att de först och främst är ett fack.
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 17:32:35 No. 398639
>>380158 What do you think?
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 17:47:05 No. 398659
>>398639 The EU is a paid subscription to neoliberalism, so yes of course.
4th_international 4th International Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 20:09:53 No. 398861
>>377944 >>398528 Tack.
>jag misstänker att de inte är superpeppade på att ha ML:ar som medlemmar Det är ingen fara gissar jag. Det är enormt att de är ett proletärt, klasskämpande utifrån industriprincipen till att börja med, och att de tydligen också är facket som lyckas strejka mest just nu (de växer även).
Om de visar sig vara överrepresenterat i ideologiska anarkister (vilket jag tvekar på lite) så kan jag bara luta på Marx (vilket onekligen ändå är en hit bland en markant andel) och Hönskatapulten (i vissa områden såsom direkt-demokrati och kommunism utan att nödvändingtvis nämna honom)… De behöver inte veta min positiva syn på Lenin och Stalin, ha disputer över definition av staten, etc… Det är en fackförening, inte ett parti, trots allt. Det handlar huvudsakligen om att få in så många arbetare som möjligt in i denna organisation, i formering av ett kamporgan i deras klassintresse. Om man märker att vissa individer därefter även är lämpade för det kommunistiska partiet så får man väl ge dom en pamflett i privat, hehe.
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 14:51:29 No. 400727
>>398861 What does this say… can you use English? Every other Nord here uses English. They have the courtesy to discuss things in a common language, on the thread's given one, and it would be nice if you would include yourself to that topic.
Red Man 2021-07-25 (Sun) 16:04:33 No. 400993
>>400727 Thanks.
> I suspect that they are not super excited to have MLs as members There is no danger, I guess. It is enormous that they are a proletarian, class-fighting based on the industrial principle to begin with, and that they are apparently also the union that is succeeding in striking the most right now (they are also growing).
If they turn out to be overrepresented in ideological anarchists (which I doubt a bit) then I can only lean on Marx (which is undeniably still a hit among a significant proportion) and the Chicken Coop (in some areas such as direct democracy and communism without necessarily mention him)… They do not need to know my positive view of Lenin and Stalin, have disputes over the definition of the state, etc… It is a trade union, not a party, after all. It is mainly a matter of getting as many workers as possible into this organization, in forming a fighting body in their class interest. If you notice that some individuals are then also suitable for the Communist Party, you must give them a pamphlet in private, hehe.
(Here you go)
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-08-01 (Sun) 16:37:25 No. 415113
>>400727 >Every other Nord here uses English inte jag
Anonymous 2021-08-01 (Sun) 16:46:02 No. 415125
>>400727 DET BLIR ARBETSLÄGER FÖR DIG SMÅBORGARJÄVEL
Anonymous 2021-08-02 (Mon) 14:31:09 No. 417995
>>417820 Varför är allt på amerikanska i ditt förslag av hur en tråd för nordbor bör vara? Har du ingen självrespekt? Ingen egen kultur?
Gå och titta på hur det är i /LatAm/, /Hungern/, /Brasilien/, /Tyskland/ etc. Ingen sitter där som du och gnäller på andra för att dom inte pratar amerikanska som du gör 24/7 för ingen anledning i ditt småborgarkvarter.
Var inte ett sånt jävla hanrej och låt oss konversera hur vi vill i den här tråden din Mc*onald's tölp.
stalin Stalin Anonymous 2021-08-02 (Mon) 14:42:31 No. 418019
>>415128 Swedes are truly the Anglos of Scandinavia.
Finns are the Irish Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 18:03:39 No. 425045
Can any Finns describe the erosion of the national transport service VR? First the state's ownership of it was distilled, and then its monopolies on the transport sector ended, am I getting it right? Did this cause trouble between interoperability between different railway companies?
Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 18:56:47 No. 425095
>>425045 The state owns most of the tracks excluding some private spurs. In the past, VR was a state business and owned the tracks and all the facilities. It still owns significant number of station buildings and such which the state now leases. There has been scandas about VR scrapping some arguably usable roiing stock yo prevent it getting into hands of any potential 'lean routes' competitor via some og VR's old stock being moved into a 'national rail equipment bank' of sorts or being actioned off by the order of its state owner.
Anyhow, as things now stand, VR operates all of the passenger rail, most of it via contract with the provincises but the trunk routes are profitable, VR also does like 90& of the freight still but here are some rpive operators now: Fennia rail with 6 refurbished soviet locos and Operail of the Estonian government with 6 old-new Turkish Powerhauls and sone American refirbished C30s to come to augment them! Anyway, there will be monopoly on passenger traffic up until 2023, it would have never been dismantled unless EU had said so and you all know what - I think it's a good thing. Just right now VR only operates all long distance OK, but it also has deemed that all local trains excluding Helsinki are worthless. Only from 2020, from the ficking corona year there have been some trial-natured local train like services in Tampere with disgerateningly few stops and only one stop being built for the time being.
Abalysis after the ramble:
The trend with the Finnish railways will be further deregulation while the resources are meager. What little there is will be used to further the electrification (25 kV), the Helsinki-Oulu trunk route and the Helsinki - Turkuku route. As said, this will al come directly from the state budged, which is meager, and fear our next cabinet will be Coalition party led - I fear. It will be "cold ride", as we say in general, but I doubt the rails will be much affected. As things stand is a consensus thing and not politicalized. The rail monopoly will end in 2023 which means some hypothetical competitor to VRs passenger hegemony could arise in the 'lean routes' market or otherwise. Maybe they'll do express pr American style one dirction commuter kind of apptern places like Kupio, Lappeenranta or Oulu.
Is it bad, if I think that as things stand, icrease of market orientedness is generally a good thing for the Ginnish railways, exclding the untimely abandonment of some beloved rollingstock?
Pictures:
1) Tampere Local train line (Tesoma) is under construction, but shoud be finished soon
2) VR commuter carriages in disrepair, ostensibly parked for storage but the foamer conspiracy is that parked for destruction
3) Estonian Opoerail's Dr20 diesel at right, 6 in all, and Dr21 unknown (to me) number to arrive. Both are in 2 MW power range and will operate in cross border transhipment and paper mill shunting service, I know becaus they don't have their own wagons - only Fenniearail (with it's 6 refurbished soviet diesels) has some wagon stock.
4) 2x Fenniarail Dr18s 1.55 MW each pulling some rented Swedish "sea rail" wagons, which are actually permanently coupled twins, for some reasone. Now containing paper.
carlism Carlism Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 19:36:48 No. 425137
>>425095 Do you have a source on the EU demanding privatization of the railways, and why do you think it's good? Is it because it degraded too much and even a market alternative would do better?
Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 22:26:06 No. 425383
>>425095 >>425155 car bad
train good
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 13:48:58 No. 430903
>>425383 Detta, men oironiskt.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 14:21:13 No. 430931
By Odin's beard!
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 16:11:50 No. 431082
Is there an aspect of Swedish neoimperialism to compulsory Swedish in Finnish schools, or is it just the diaspora keeping this policy alive? Also, is it true Sweden largely controls the Baltic financial sector?
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 08:02:52 No. 436298
jahopp, dags för leftypål att haverera och bli piss igen. vars ska man bege sig? :(
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 10:22:03 No. 436373
>>431082 >Swedish neoimperialism to compulsory Swedish in Finnish schools this is due to Finland having a sizeable Finnish-Swedish minority due to historical events, not present-day Swedish policy. personally I think Finnish should be an option in Swedish schools, especially in Norrbotten
>Also, is it true Sweden largely controls the Baltic financial sector? Finnish-Swedes are the Jews of the Baltic, yes. pic related
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 14:07:01 No. 436703
>>436373 Finnish-Swedes more so than Swedes themselves? I only remember reading that Sweden swooped in to capitalize on the Baltic states' newly marketized economies in the 90s.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 16:54:00 No. 437239
The Red Party rising to a record 7.5%!socialism Socialism
Red Man 2021-08-10 (Tue) 17:10:27 No. 437292
>>437263 I literally do not know where they are coming from, but it just continues to rise and rise. In my three years, I have never seen this rise before. The bourgeoise are panicking thinking that Red just might get influence in the next coalition. Some of the smears they have tried are
"Increasing the wealth tax is pure communism!"- The Conservative Party
"If the Red Party wins they will govern like Victor Orban and Donald Trump"- Neoliberal Think Tank
"The Red Party is just as bad as the Nazis"- The Conservative Party
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 17:45:33 No. 437362
>>436703 >Finnish-Swedes more so than Swedes themselves? yes. and keep in mind Finnish-Swedes (finlandssvenskar) are distinct from Swedish-Finns (sverigefinnar)
quite likely. but Finland wasn't part of the USSR, even if it was hurt quite hard by the dissolution
>>437255 basert
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 18:11:06 No. 437405
>>437362 Can you elaborate on what makes Finnish Swedes more bourgeois than Swedes? Is it because Swedish settlers were people of wealth, or exploited the Finns? I heard even things like higher education in Finland is effectively segregated between Finns and Finnish Swedes.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 18:49:10 No. 437447
>>437263 >Where are all the new voters coming from? from Ap, FrP and V probably
http://www.pollofpolls.no/?cmd=Maling&gallupid=4399 >>437405 because Finnish-Swedes are a minority that looks after their own. they also make up a disproportionate part of the Finnish aristocracy, for historical reasons. Swedes that moved to Finland tended to be aristocrats. Finns moving to Sweden tended to be peasants engaging in slash-and-burn agriculture (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn#Northern_Europe ), so called
svedjefinnar . when the USSR collapsed you had a similar thing but with industrial workers moving from Finland to Sweden
Swedes living in Finland are not Finnish-Swedes, but a much smaller minority. because there's a lot of people moving over the Baltic you get a lot of terms for these groups. in Swedish:
svenskar - Swedes
finnar - Finns
finlandssvenskar - Finnish-Swedes
sverigefinnar - Swedish-Finns
sverigefinlandssvenskar - Finnish-Swedes living in Sweden
finlandssverigefinnar - Swedish-Finns living in Finland
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 19:17:04 No. 437505
>>400727 just use google translate like the rest of us lmao it's a nordic thread
lenin_cap Lenin Cap Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 19:21:11 No. 437512
>>437263 maybe Ap voters go to SV and SV voters go to Rodt?
lenin_cap Lenin Cap Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 19:22:45 No. 437519
>>437505 DeepL is vastly superior
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 19:28:27 No. 437538
>>437519 >>437519 ah didn't know about it thanks
lenin_cap Lenin Cap Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 19:47:58 No. 437583
>>437505 >>437538 Translating is a hassle that most people aren't bothering with, which effectively limits the conversation to just a few people. It seems everyone but some Swedish people here use English, which facilitates communication amongst ourselves.
Red Man 2021-08-10 (Tue) 20:05:24 No. 437603
>>437512 Dissapointed AP voters just go straight to Red as Red is much less on idpol and environmentalism then SV. Who is much more of Labour Aristocratic party. To oversimplify it a bit.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 21:41:39 No. 437753
för helvete, ytterliggare en domänstrid
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 06:56:25 No. 438358
>>437292 I suspect it may be people who like us but see Red as a wasted vote due to being below 4%. Now that the polls are showing consistently above the limit, those people feel secure in voting for us.
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 08:39:04 No. 438412
>>353325 Det här vill jag också veta
Red Man 2021-08-11 (Wed) 11:06:56 No. 438536
>>438358 That could be the case. I do remember that Moxnes mentioned the main reason people did not know was because of that reason you mentioned.
>>438306 Is the Swedish Left finally getting its feet together??
Also is there any interest in a Norwegian Election Thread soon? I can give some live updates that would be very interesting.
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 11:48:14 No. 438561
>>438536 Start it when you feel there's enpugh interesting things happening, though the results are still more than a month away.
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 11:55:35 No. 438564
>>438536 Best to keep it within the general
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 14:17:16 No. 438700
>>438306 >V > C kännsbramannen
>>438536 >Also is there any interest in a Norwegian Election Thread soon? dew it
Red Man 2021-08-12 (Thu) 06:48:53 No. 440782
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/28vmMG/roedt-skifter-maktstrategi-vil-ha-sv-allianse-for-aa-presse-ap-og-sp This is very interesting. Red tried to get a left wing oppositional front with SV and SV declined. While SV invited Red to go into the Red-Green coalition
Obviously Red will decline (or has already declined?)
However the X-factor is that SV will for the first time allow its members to decide if it goes into a coalition or not (after the election).
However this means that the SV leadership has clearly chosen to go with the neoliberals (AP and SP) rather then the socialists (Red Party).
socialism Socialism Anonymous 2021-08-12 (Thu) 07:16:01 No. 440844
>>440782 Idk man sounds like SV and R are in a love hate relationship with each other with narcissism of small differences.
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 09:36:24 No. 442905
>>329778 Еивэт нэуттаиси осааван.
left_communism Left Communism Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 10:26:21 No. 442938
Harbin någon koll på hur det faktiskt var med de apatiska barnen?
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 10:39:24 No. 442954
>>442938 två av fallen har uppdagats vara simulanter. SVT har ett reportage:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/granskning-lyfter-ny-debatt-om-apatiska-flyktingbarn men 150 barn på 3 år gör det till en icke-fråga
Anonymous 2021-08-14 (Sat) 02:10:39 No. 444173
bbump
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 14:51:59 No. 447819
Watching NRK's "Fuckload of Questions" where they interview every party leader. FrP's leader Sylvi Listhaug is about what I expected.
>Who's your political role model? <I've always liked Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. >Fox News or NRK? <Fox News. >If you could invite anyone you want for dinner, who would it be? <Maybe Biden, to hear his thoughts. >Train or highway? <Highway. https://tv.nrk.no/serie/sjukt-mange-spoersmaal/sesong/1/episode/6/avspiller Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 20:14:11 No. 449811
SPLITTRINGEN VAR EN BRA SAK
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 02:41:37 No. 450260
https://e24.no/naeringsliv/i/jB4mGn/ssb-forsker-utleieinvestorer-har-soerget-for-betydelig-hoeyere-boligpriser Economic model demonstrates rentals drive up housing prices,as if that wasn't already obvious. Bourgeois economists are all
supply this, demand that until you point out maybe allowing hoarding of housing supply isn't a good idea.
Anonymous 2021-08-20 (Fri) 17:02:34 No. 454603
ALLIANSFRITT SVEALAND!
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 17:07:44 No. 457406
Nordbros holding a pro-Cuba demonstration in Oslo on Tuesday. Wish I could be there but I'm busy.
https://www.facebook.com/events/961133911408468/ Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 17:09:42 No. 457412
>>457406 Is Red and SV Party gonna be there?
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 17:57:19 No. 457473
>>457412 Red will be there, dunno about SV.
Anonymous 2021-08-27 (Fri) 21:14:18 No. 465177
>>463901 Good question, I think a large part had to do with the fact that Finland was part of the Russian Empire prior to the Revolution. It is a crime how the proud Reds are remembered today…
Pieni Suomen kansa katkoo kahleitansa! ==Eläköön punakaarti! Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 07:47:49 No. 468559
>>468401 >attentat mot personlig egendom >detta kommer att få arbetarklassen på vår sida det här är inte grejen chefen
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 09:04:43 No. 468684
>>468401 I'm not saying this was definitely feds but it's something I'd do if I was a fed trying to discredit the climate movement.
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 09:09:07 No. 468688
>>468401 Pretty based. I once threw a breezeblock through the back window of some cunt's Range Rover. Though that was because of his pro-hunting stickers rather than the climate specifically.
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 09:13:59 No. 468691
>>468688 >that was because of his pro-hunting stickers wildlife care is socially necessary anon. typical city dweller behavior
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 09:16:20 No. 468692
>>468691 Haha. Alright. It's the hunters that wiped out all the predators in the first place.
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 09:49:41 No. 468703
>>468691 How is hunting wildlife care?
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 11:04:47 No. 468733
Vad händer med alla kaosautister när välfärdsstaten brister?
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 11:19:14 No. 468742
>>468738 No sir. TRUE and HONEST.
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 16:22:30 No. 469061
not socialist but thought i'd post this short note
https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/iceland-workweek-working-week-shorter-hours-trials-research-alda-autonomy-study 35 hour work week with no reduction in wages led to happier workers and no reduction in performance in trials of >1% of the Icelandik population.
>the trials encompassed not only offices but also playschools, city maintenance facilities, care homes for people with various disabilities and special needs, and beyond. The Reykjavík City mayor’s office was included as well. Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 20:46:07 No. 469298
>>468692 found the nollåtta
>>468703 do you know what happens whenever wildlife populations soar? especially after dry summers? they die. feel free to compare to Australia's wild horse problem
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 22:16:51 No. 469377
>>469298 What do you think happened before humans came along to 'fix' the ecosystem? Was everything just broken all the time?
Anonymous 2021-08-30 (Mon) 22:46:16 No. 469423
>>469377 if you have a problem with humans changing their environment to suit human wants and needs then why are you even here? please neck yourself
Anonymous 2021-08-31 (Tue) 03:38:03 No. 469777
>>469298 >especially after dry summers? they die. Big if true.
Anonymous 2021-08-31 (Tue) 06:23:18 No. 469878
>>469423 Hunting doesn't fit human needs though, it only suits a tiny minority of faggots that continue to fuck up the environment for everyone else.
Anonymous 2021-08-31 (Tue) 15:45:20 No. 470328
>>469377 There was a lot of death.
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 12:02:06 No. 471558
How is the Icelandic election going?
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 14:54:17 No. 471753
>>471558 Follow-up: do we even have one Icelandic anon here?
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 19:53:39 No. 472275
>>471753 We had one Greenlander on 8chan.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 05:37:57 No. 473248
>>468401 This is retarded as fuck.
1) the making of a car tire (vulcanized rubber) expends a massive amount of oil.
2) tires that are punctured are often left to rot in landfills further contaminating the atmosphere and land.
So yeah, good job you cunts.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 06:25:04 No. 473280
>>473248 I think the point is that they don’t want oil to be converted to the tire. And also slashed tires and used tires still pollute the environment either way so your second point is moot.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 06:58:00 No. 473306
>>473224 What can you expect more from radlibs? They have room temperature autism score.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 07:05:22 No. 473311
>>468401 >You blame SUVs are the cause of climate change >Doesn't realize that motorcycles are the main cause How retarded 1st Worlders are. That's what excess cuntpitalism does to a mf.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 07:06:38 No. 473313
>>473224 pretty much every company on that list is an oil company or a mining company.
hope you're keen to pedal your shit car to work.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 07:23:02 No. 473324
>>473313 I already have been using bicycle and public transport for years. I don't miss the stress of using cars with their endless traffic jams and braindead drivers.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 07:30:47 No. 473328
>>473313 of course the fucking succdem thinks the only option is cars
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 07:39:52 No. 473334
>>473328 perhaps there's some kind of language barrier hiding my subtle point: quite literally all cars and all vestiges of car culture should be destroyed or condemned to the victims of capitalism history museum.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 10:07:07 No. 473456
>>468559 >>468684 >>473224 >>473248 >>473306 pearl clutching liberals, no you won't get to keep your fucking SUV in the coming survival communism
>>473334 based bizarro-socdem
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 10:19:57 No. 473463
>>473334 >quite literally all cars and all vestiges of car culture should be destroyed found the metropolitan. we can and should expand public transport, but don't pretend people in rural areas will be able to live without cars any time soon. a lot of this shit comes down to the kind of solutions that plop out of the planning equations
>>473456 SUVs aren't the problem, idiot. it's the mode of production that's the problem. we cannot know
a priori what place bigger cars have in an eco-socialist economy
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 10:25:07 No. 473464
>>473463 >we cannot know a priori what place bigger cars have in an eco-socialist economy haha
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 10:30:38 No. 473467
>>473464 >he thinks cars with powerful engines, high ground clearance and four wheel drive are useful tools? >what an idiot lol absolutely utopian
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 10:35:22 No. 473471
>>473456 >no you won't get to keep your fucking SUV in the coming survival communism Never had one anyway. SUVs are bad, but there are much
much bigger polluters out there.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 12:03:44 No. 473560
>>473514 hmm, I guess it didn't
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 12:31:31 No. 473582
SUVs are fucking dumb to have anyway. How are you people still talking about this?
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 12:34:26 No. 473584
>>473582 a lot of small SUVs are just as fuel efficient as your average sedan now, just saying. i prefer public transport, however.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 12:41:16 No. 473589
>>473582 Yeah they are, but vandalizing personal property isn't a good loo.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 14:53:09 No. 473717
>lol you can't blame cars, look at these big companies! >those big companies polute to run your car >lol I don't even use a car
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 16:17:34 No. 473842
>>473717 nordicks aren't good with dialectics desu
you could even say that we're honorary anglos Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 16:18:34 No. 473846
>>473334 >>473313 Inbred retard believes gasoline and tires are the main byproducts of oil refining
Classic illiterate succdem
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 16:19:13 No. 473847
>>473717 What is the percentage of carbon emissions caused by cars again?
That right, you don't know, you are just a grifter
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 20:52:01 No. 474481
>>473846 the only oil products allowed under socialism will be olive oil for the italians and a big cauldron of oil in which you will be boiled alive for your presumptuousness.
(and then given to the italians)
Anonymous 2021-09-03 (Fri) 14:49:26 No. 475660
>>306275 >Oh, and you always get pickled white cabbage on the side to your pizza BASED
Anonymous 2021-09-03 (Fri) 15:43:36 No. 475771
>>475652 Danmark var ett misstag.
Anonymous 2021-09-03 (Fri) 19:26:23 No. 476116
>>475652 Hände något?
Breven i tråden fick mig för övrigt att läsa på lite om clownen i fråga… han har tydligen verifierbara hjärnskador sedan en trafikolycka i vuxen ålder, vilka påverkar hans beteende. Tragiskt.
Anonymous 2021-09-03 (Fri) 22:06:37 No. 476378
>>476116 Har inte hört något än, fick infon hastigast från en annan kamrat så tänkte att jag skulle dela här. Om någon får reda på någonting så får ni gärna skriva det här i tråden.
Anonymous 2021-09-04 (Sat) 01:40:48 No. 476560
Lmao ABBA is getting back together. Hope they made good music.
Anonymous 2021-09-04 (Sat) 12:26:05 No. 476900
>>476465 >let's provoke people in the suburbs by tearing up a koran >oh no we're being confronted how could this happen? >run away! den evige dansken
Anonymous 2021-09-04 (Sat) 14:14:50 No. 476966
>>476465 Tack för delning kamrat.
>>476560 To quote the immortal sillstryparen: they don't give a fuck about anything, they just want to make quick money.
Anonymous 2021-09-05 (Sun) 20:26:12 No. 478895
Please post the DPRK moomins picture QUICKLY I need it thx finn/swedebros
Anonymous 2021-09-06 (Mon) 11:57:54 No. 479566
>>479506 did you by chance see the /his/ thread I made earlier today that's still going?
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 23:29:03 No. 481603
>>472275 Greenland is part of Denmark, not Iceland.
DEATH TO AMERICA 2021-09-08 (Wed) 00:41:18 No. 481676
>>481642
Anonymous 2021-09-08 (Wed) 01:20:03 No. 481721
>>481706 >RENT FREE <I AM A RETARD AS ALWAYS, DEATH TO AMERICA.
Anonymous 2021-09-08 (Wed) 08:49:48 No. 482278
>>481676 WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE
IT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNING
Anonymous 2021-09-08 (Wed) 21:50:04 No. 483021
Vad tycker ni om Sveriges Kommunistiska Parti?
Anonymous 2021-09-08 (Wed) 22:18:22 No. 483056
>>483021 fikar hos dem då och då. de hade nåt stort drama för typ två år sen
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 10:00:01 No. 483911
>>483056 K hade ju någon split med några invandringstritiska medlemmar. Har SKP också haft drama nyligen?
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 16:20:15 No. 488005
>>483911 aha K och SKP är inte samma parti. var K jag menade
Anonymous 2021-09-12 (Sun) 21:31:24 No. 490516
>>469061 How come people don't get more done with more time? Don't they have quotas or calls they
have to take or something?
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 06:58:59 No. 491193
kritiskt stöd för tyskland mot fransk och britisk imperialism
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 08:50:11 No. 491287
>>491283 You shut your whore mouth.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 18:11:24 No. 497217
How is the Icelandic election going? The Socialist Party there seems based.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 22:11:37 No. 497511
>>496979 One is not en sann revolutionär until man blir stoppad av en mörkblå Volvo V70 med två slipsklädda herrar från Författningsskyddet som vill tala med dig om hur farligt extremism är.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 07:30:25 No. 498020
Finns det ett riktigt vänsterligt bemötande av boken genusdoktrinen?
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 08:27:21 No. 498036
>>259933 Äh, det är bara internetkäbbel, men ja kasta ut snubben helt klart. Att fucka upp något Kakabaveh style är inte riktigt samma grej som att dilla med den där typen av efterblivenhet i 20 år.
Snubben kan ju testa. Den som ens rör Rasmus kolar troligen . . .
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 08:34:32 No. 498041
>>496979 Tror du på allvar att du gör någon skillnad när du tomtar runt bland afa?
Det är på samma nivå som världsåskådningsmarxisterna.
Börja producera ny extremt seriös kritik, eller assistera folk som gör detta efter bästa förmåga om du vill se till att något händer. Det är vad Engels gjorde. Det gick halvbra. Men något hände.
>>497511 Detta.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 08:37:03 No. 498042
>>483613 "Demokratiskt vald" GG statens statens skenrepresentant för "vänstern"
Statsvetenskap 1?
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 08:37:36 No. 498043
>>481676 Extremt grundat uttalande.
Anonymous 2021-09-17 (Fri) 15:15:17 No. 498427
>>498041 Slut käften och sluta ta skitpostande så personligt, jävla veckoslutsakademiker.
>>497511 Precis! Just så!
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 06:07:29 No. 499083
VIF i frid Hanif, en soldat har fallit men kriget mot PK och svensk avundsjukekommunism fortgår. Eller är det för sent att räkna ut honom? Har han kanske rentav en strålande framtid som Anders Bard-akolyt framför sig?
>>498777 Trevlig triplett & skönt nytt skivomslag
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 12:15:24 No. 499282
>>499083 hela Sveriges husbabbe
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 09:20:38 No. 507742
Vad tror ni om att Liberalernas nya immigrationsminister fick avgå som kulturminister i chile för att han påstod ett museum över pinochets brott förfalskade historien?
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 13:23:36 No. 507923
SPEAK ENGLISH YOU ARROGANT ASSHOLES
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 13:27:07 No. 507928
>>507923 (Swedish accent) Tey tönt tich os engliska in der skoole veri güüd :DDDD
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 15:36:54 No. 508036
>>507939 So will there be a massive police escort to keep the fash relatively safe?
also
>Soldiers of Odin I thought those clowns had given up by now, but I guess they're slow learners eh?
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 16:15:57 No. 508068
>>508036 >So will there be a massive police escort to keep the fash relatively safe? Most likely. Police is very zealous and pro-active when it comes to securing fascist demos from antifascists.
SOO still exists but they don't do much "street patrols" or activism anymore. They are mostly a drinking club for neo-nazis who go to some demo once a year.
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 17:10:25 No. 508121
Hey swedebros, is there a left equivalent for huha antifa? And why are there so many fash songs in your language?
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 18:08:23 No. 508202
>>508121 >And why are there so many fash songs in your language got some examples?
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 18:23:58 No. 508232
>>508121 >huha antifa what, you mean AFA?
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 21:54:47 No. 508603
>>508121 The main organization active today is probably AFA (Antifascistisk aktion), founded during the anti-fascist struggles of the early 1990s. You also have the syndicalist youth organization SUF, it too originates from that period. Then there are newer organizations which I am not too familiar with, like SAF/GAF (Stockholms/Göteborgs Antifascistiska Front). And of course various aggregate organizations and smaller local groups.
Over the years the scene has changed and organizations have come and gone. Previously you had orgs like AFS (Antifascistiska Skinheads), Kommando Anton Nilsson, Tomtekommandot, and RF/Revfront (Revolutionära fronten) to name just a few. Revfront was particularly notorious due to their liberal application of violence.
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 22:00:00 No. 508620
>>508068 Is NMR/Vastarintaliike still around?
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 14:05:08 No. 509958
>>509829 coolt. jag vet att K brukar köra grundkurser också, skadar inte att fler grupperingar kör på
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 16:43:04 No. 510209
I heard Sweden largely controls the finance sector of the Baltic countries. Can someone elaborate on the details and history?
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 17:09:00 No. 510282
>>510209 *Finnish-Swedes
but yes. they are the jews of the Baltic
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 17:22:30 No. 510309
>>510282 Any details or reading material? Also I thought Swedes themselves took over the finance of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 17:33:16 No. 510322
>>510309 not sure about reading material but the quintessential finnish-swede is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Wahlroos some finnish comrades I know made this Wahlroos themed C64 demo a bunch of years ago:
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=OXoPpOXVrfc by contrast Swedish-Finns tend to be working class
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 21:51:32 No. 510841
>>510831 Oh nah I’m not Nordic, I was asking spurdo.
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 22:01:04 No. 510859
>>510853 Speak English or else I will shoplift from Ikea.
Anonymous 2021-09-25 (Sat) 21:20:44 No. 512996
>>510999 turns out blitzkriegs doesn't work in sparsely populated woods
Anonymous 2021-09-25 (Sat) 21:50:33 No. 513068
>>510831 dra din gamla engelska i röven :-DDD
Anonymous 2021-09-25 (Sat) 21:57:52 No. 513079
>>510859 It's spelled IKEA (Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd) and it's a multinational corporation so of course you should shoplift from there.
Fun factoid: the founder was an organized nazi!
Anonymous 2021-09-25 (Sat) 22:20:33 No. 513119
>>513079 Another fun fact: IKEA is legally a non-profit and is headquartered in the Netherlands because the owners hate taxes.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 09:16:54 No. 513757
>>497217 Looks like they aren't going to get into parliament.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 11:25:24 No. 513839
hur avkoliniserar vi lappland?
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 12:22:53 No. 513901
>>513848 Their smile and optimism: gone.
Very good. Can I ask what the image text says?
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 12:28:32 No. 513906
>>513901 Neonazis from the Nordic Resistance Movement attacked antifascists in Göteborg. Here's the result.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 12:28:49 No. 513907
>>513901 Text says: "NMR neo-nazis attacked antifascists in Göteborg. This is the result."
This was few years back. Both of these losers are Finnish but they traveled to Sweden to get their asses kicked.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 12:34:43 No. 513914
>>510999 Sure. It take's a shit load of commies to take over a country and still they fail if there's righteous and brave people fighting back.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 12:44:18 No. 513922
>>510209 >>510282 >>510309 This motherfucker right here. He's the arch-porky of the Baltics and Scandinavia. He's a Finnish-Swedish investment banker called Björn "Teddy Bear" Wahlroos. That shit-eating grin is frozen on his face because he owns more property than you could ever wrap your puny little mind around. He even owns you. In his youth he was a Stalinist of the most radical ilk when it suited him. Then he grew up and went into finance, like his degenerate alcoholic father who was the chief of staff in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce in the 70's.
An investigative economics journalist wrote a book about him together with journo-students some years back, but I doubt there's an English version.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 12:49:53 No. 513930
>>507939 So how did it go?
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 15:04:35 No. 514051
>>513922 to add to this, nalle wants to privatize the Baltic Sea, and other such deranged randian ideas
Anonymous ## Mod 2021-09-26 (Sun) 15:51:03 No. 514133
Hi /nordpol/, would you like this thread to be cyclic, or keep making new threads when they are full?
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 17:02:00 No. 514318
>>514133 cyclic works for me
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 17:06:33 No. 514325
>>513922 What's the book's name? It's worth knowing at least for the people who know the language or are willing to translate.
>>514133 Cyclic
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 17:07:08 No. 514328
>>511105 Absolut bisarrt att se detta när man en gång i tiden skrivit NylBrs beväringsinfo
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 17:10:25 No. 514334
>>511105 Absolut bisarrt att se detta när man en gång i tiden skrivit NylBrs beväringsinfo>>514330
Absolutely bizarre seeing this as someone who has written Nylands Brigads beväringsinfo. Also not a swede.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 17:22:42 No. 514359
>>514330 For context, Nylands Brigad is a Swedish-speaking Finnish elite regimen.
This comrade
>>514334 is a certified badass
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 18:10:01 No. 514438
>>514358 no selfies please
Anonymous 2021-09-28 (Tue) 18:28:40 No. 518832
Why have social democrats dominated Swedish politics for over a hundred years? I assume they've presided over some right-wing stuff despite being a centre-left party - can Swedes elaborate on this? And for other Nords, how are the soc-dems in your country? Are they complete bourgeois parties with no merits?
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 19:17:42 No. 522740
Varifrån kommer alla dessa vapen och bomber egentligen? Där jag växte upp har det också tydligen sprängts, två våningar under min barndomslägenhet. Jag bor inte i Sverige sedan flera år tillbaka, och det är svårt att få insyn utan sensationalism, men jag minns inte den nivå av våld som man hör om idag. Varför tror ni att det är så annorlunda idag? Kan man säga att det är ett uttryck av den nyliberala samhällsförvandlingen, eller hur tänker ni?
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 19:24:23 No. 522753
>>522740 >Kan man säga att det är ett uttryck av den nyliberala samhällsförvandlingen Javisst, men det är nock en del historiska tillfälligheter med i spelet också. Tydligen har det smugglats in en hel del sprängmedel från balkan vilket då leder till ökad sprängningsfrekvens.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 19:41:37 No. 522783
>>522740 >egentligen: actual >Där: There? >jag: I >upp: up? >det: it >två: two >under: under >min: my >barndom: childhood >bor inte i Sverige: wasn't born in Sweden >och: and >är: are >svårt: black >utan: without >sensationalism: sensationalism >våld: forest? >idag: today >Kan: Can >säga: say? >av den: about the >nyliberala: neoliberal >eller: or This is pretty much all the rest of us Nords can understand. More of us speak English than Swedish, the latter of which we know less than you might think, so keep that in mind.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 19:50:51 No. 522805
>>522783 Tja. Vi har nu nått ett stadium av kulturimperialism där en del infödda svenska barn talar engelska istället för svenska. Det är också någonting att hålla i sinn när man väljer vilket av de två språken man ska bruka.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 19:57:17 No. 522828
>>522805 >Vi har: We have >ett stadium av kulturimperialism där: a stadium of cultural imperialism there >svenska barn talar engelska: swedish children speak english >för svenska: for swedish >Det är: There are >någonting: something >av de två språken: of the two languages Sorry, we still don't know what you are saying really. But I figure you made some point about Swedish kids also learning English… if that's true, then go on ahead and speak the international tongue.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 20:06:50 No. 522850
>>522805 Detta tycker jag är ganska intressant faktiskt. Jag har märkt genom åren hur fler och fler engelska lånord blivit vardag i svenskan. Varför har det blivit så? Samma fenomen verkar inte ha spelat ut sig i andra nordiska länder trots liknande förhållanden, åtminstone inte på samma nivå.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 20:12:18 No. 522860
>>522850 Mnjä, har dålig koll men danskar verkar vara rätt jävla svåra på engelskan. "Kompoter", "Gå kold törker" och allt vad de säger… som motpol har vi Island där de visserligen pratar mycket engelska men också är ettriga på att hitta på egna inhemska ord för nyinkomna begrepp, istället för att bara svälja engelskan.
Men skit samma, min poäng är att språk och kulturer inte ska förintas oavsett storlek eller (brist på) förtjänster. Tänk globalt, agera för klassen men tala skandinaviska!
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 06:41:47 No. 523628
Fuck the swedes, seriously. Make you own thread where you can circle jerk with your retarded language. This thread is for all northerners so speak english. Fucking arrogant nationalist pricks.
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 09:53:33 No. 523827
>>523628 våra bröder till syd och väst har fritt fram att skriva i sina respektiva språk
våra grannar till öst hoppas vi inte sov över sina svenskalektioner
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 14:03:19 No. 524224
>>523628 Lol at this guy, we may be socialists here but we are Swedes first of all. Its not our fault you were born in an inferior country lmao
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 20:23:56 No. 524833
>>518832 Bumping this question
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 23:29:35 No. 525098
>>491269 Everybody just ended up copying it from the 13th century Danes. Now nobody gives a shit about the cross and people mostly think it as a symbol of common Nordic history and not much else since Nordic countries are basically areligious anyway.
Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 15:12:52 No. 526492
>>526347 >schizo infografik >kulaks (peasant farmers) försök åtminstone vara subtil pol
det är också välkänt att marx primärt skrev kritik och väldigt lite om vad som borde göras
Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 22:25:12 No. 527227
How many of you’re actually “torture is a legitimate way to reach admissions “ tier tankies?
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 22:22:08 No. 533552
>>524726 Nope, but he couldn't use his alibi.
He was with his male lover. Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 22:39:48 No. 533594
Goodbye red guard, goodbye for a moment only. Goodbye brothers and goodbye, I call elsewhere I received. We'll meet again and the fight will start again. If we are not, our children will join the front. They continue the work of the Reds, it can't break us. Yes, young people hear the call, just as bright it always rings.
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 22:46:19 No. 533611
The Rose is Red
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 09:11:59 No. 539606
Why is the Swedish left so opposed to using mandatory means to increase vaccination? Is it the same in other countries?
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 10:27:55 No. 539634
>>539606 >Why is the Swedish left so opposed to using mandatory means to increase vaccination? are you aware of the Swedish eugenics program?
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 11:28:35 No. 539668
>>539634 So a bad experience? Since the current leftist party was the only ones opposed to it back then
Anonymous 2021-10-09 (Sat) 12:50:58 No. 539720
>>539606 Socdems are for tighter control because they care more about public health than economics. Right wing liberals want to open up the economy because money and right wing nationalists think the vaxxine is a conspiracy.
T. Finland
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 11:09:33 No. 540849
Kan någon förklara för en dum chinlet vad de där kvinnomorden tidigare i år hade med mansnormer att göra när de främst begås av folk som de flesta åtminstone anser borde få psykisk hjälp?
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 12:54:29 No. 542433
>>540849 att man har ett trasigt psyke betyder inte att man inte påverkas av omgivningens kultur & politik
det kan ofta vara precis tvärtom Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 13:58:26 No. 542494
>>539636 They never paid back the machines we built there. Finno - Korean Hyperwar 2.0 soon.
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 14:00:58 No. 542496
>>539606 Because Swedes are higher than anyone on idpol.
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 19:30:10 No. 542940
>>542494 funny, neither ave they paid back the volvos we sold them long ago
t.swede
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 20:25:58 No. 542987
>>542949 >filename finnish-swede detected
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 20:55:45 No. 543036
>>542949 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqZMu4XiIn4 motherfucking finno fuckers causing the world to fuking collapse.
IF FINNO DIDNT EXIST THE GREAT HWAN EMPIRE AND THE OTHER NATIONS WOULD HAVE UNITED TO FORM THE UNITED PLANETARY EMPIRE
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 20:59:53 No. 543046
>>498048 I asked for a source, not glowpedia.
Anonymous 2021-10-12 (Tue) 17:27:31 No. 544261
Finns det någonting ”revionistiskt” angående kirunasvenskarnas öden från Svesk vänster? Ej hittar något och frågar av ren nyfikenhet
Anonymous 2021-10-12 (Tue) 17:29:33 No. 544268
Finns det någonting ”revionistiskt” angående kirunasvenskarnas öden från Svesk vänster? Ej hittar något och frågar av ren nyfikenhet
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 08:57:51 No. 545062
Is there any anti doomer material on the future of the Swedish welfare state?
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 11:32:11 No. 545160
Just moved to malmö, what do now
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 14:33:39 No. 545429
NATO always asks Finland how many Russian troops are in Finland.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 15:00:58 No. 545471
>>545062 you mean things about it ending or?
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 15:04:26 No. 545481
>>545429 Go suck Mannerheims rotten cock you filthy lahtari.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 15:58:40 No. 545577
>>545481 First fatherland and then socialism. Finland is extremely conservative but also leftist in their economic tribalism.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 16:55:42 No. 545673
>>545577 Finns are exceptionally nationalist but centrist, more like. Thus any socialist movement that arises in the country will necessarily have to adapt to the nation and have a pronounced nationalist aspect.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 17:51:59 No. 545725
>>545577 >fatherland kusligt
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 20:19:11 No. 545885
>>545725 We use "isänmaa" in Finnish so it doesnt sound gay like your language.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 20:21:52 No. 545887
>>545673 You underestimate KGB influence in Finnish politics only a strongman like Kekkonen (who was the leader of centrist party) could negotiate with the left. After all it was the social democratic party that declared war on the bourgeoisie Finnish government.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 23:55:59 No. 546109
>>545851 >Socialism literally means NATIONALIZED industry Not necessarily true.
Okay and? Socialism eliminates the distinction between your countryman and culture with the rest of the world.
and that is good actually Anonymous 2021-10-14 (Thu) 17:53:14 No. 547026
>>545160 röka pisspipa i lilla bagdad sitter ju aldrig fel
Anonymous 2021-10-15 (Fri) 05:57:13 No. 547699
>>545481 Mannerheim was like the only guy who wanted to at least try diplomacy with the soviets
Anonymous 2021-10-15 (Fri) 13:41:49 No. 547995
>>547699 Why didn't Finland do the land swap again? Wasn't it because parliamentary proceedings took too long since they couldn't agree? Or did the parliamentarians just refuse to consider it altogether?
Anonymous 2021-10-15 (Fri) 13:46:26 No. 547998
>>545894 >raped and pillaged by foreign capital he said, living in an imperialist country
Anonymous 2021-10-15 (Fri) 15:56:43 No. 548137
>>547995 Wasn’t Finland’s only defensive line within the land that would swapped?
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 01:07:48 No. 548784
>>548137 Doesn't seem like a good reason. If the USSR wanted to, as we saw, it could defeat Finland quite easily. In exchange the Finns would get more forested land, with timber being the central industry of Finland at the time (and still so).
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 13:54:24 No. 549364
>>545429 they could ask the amount of time they toke to break the soviet defenses, im kidding, even with their nazi allies they were unable to.
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 19:24:07 No. 549701
>>549355 see it from the bright side, even if they had won it would just have been 50 years of a failed implantation of socialism and then leave you poorer than you're now
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 20:03:18 No. 549799
>>549701 Finland would have their own form of nostalgia just like even the most industrialized parts of the Eastern Bloc:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie Support for the Finnish communist party was naturally high and even took part in government some times, so the people themselves were realizing the need for socialism. Now under capitalism its properties are being privatized and exploited, parts of Finland sold out at the expense of the native workers who actually made it all.
BTW Finland's world-renowned education system is heavily borrowed from East Germany in particular.
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 20:06:43 No. 549812
>>549806 >East Germany is Eastern European Nice selfie.
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 20:20:47 No. 549845
>>549812 asia extends from the pacific in the far east to the Rhine and Torneälv in the west
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 20:33:41 No. 549855
>>549852 yeah but they're different from other eastern european countries (good reason to distrust the west) and baltic countries (more peaceful contacts with their western neighbors)
Like would the modern republic of germany ever consider gifting poland a whole mountain? don't think so
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 00:43:53 No. 550224
>>549701 >even if they had won USSR won, both wars. After the "Winter war" Finnish workers set up the Finland–USSR Peace & Friendship Society. Almost 40,000 people joined immediately (soon all the leaders were arrested and the org banned). After the "Continuation war" the most popular party among the war-veterans was the SKDL (Communist led 'People's front' party). In 1945 elections the SKDL was the second largest party (and that's very telling, since Communism was illegal in Finland since early 1920's).
My grandfather fought in the Winter war and in the Continuation war. When he got home from the war, he said he never wanted to fight for the rich again. He was never very political, but after the war he subscribed to communist and pro-USSR newspapers.
These are "what if" imaginary scenarios. But think about this: What if USSR forced Finland into socialism after WW2. Finland is the road to Scandinavia. It's likely that Sweden and Norway turned to socialism after that. And when the whole North was socialist, the future of Communism and USSR would have been much different.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 00:51:15 No. 550229
>>549701 That sounds like sour grapes
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 15:01:56 No. 551186
>>550224 How would this domino effect Finland, Scandinavia, Europe have worked?
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 21:11:43 No. 551864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW1ZBJozQNU K håller en digital studiecirkel runt sitt partiprogram
https://kommunisterna.org/politik/partiprogram personligen är jag missnöjd att de är för samma dödliga narkotikapolitik som sossarna och resten av partierna, nu även V inkluderat
Anonymous 2021-10-18 (Mon) 08:27:57 No. 553162
>>542433 Fast hur vet vi dessa människor påverkas av samhället istället för att de i egenskap av våldsamma människor ger sig på de svagare, då främst de kvinnor som lever med dem?
Anonymous 2021-10-18 (Mon) 20:35:08 No. 554090
Nordic people, how are the Greens in your country? Do they have a left wing that is worth getting into or are they all bourgeois and a waste?
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 02:04:19 No. 554439
>>471558 went terribly lol
>>471753 i come here *very* rarely but i do recall seeing another icelandic person on here a while ago
>>554090 they suck
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 11:00:41 No. 554839
>>549852 of course Finland is eastern
eastern Sweden that is >>554090 >how are the Greens in your country? cucked beyond belief by bourgeois idpol
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 11:36:11 No. 554889
>>554439 Oh why? What happened in Iceland? I read that J didn’t get into government.
Anonymous 2021-10-19 (Tue) 11:36:36 No. 554890
>>554889 >government I meant parliament.
Anonymous 2021-10-20 (Wed) 19:25:34 No. 556878
Hello Nordic crackers!
Anonymous 2021-10-20 (Wed) 19:27:30 No. 556884
>>556878 Red and Socialist Left got pretty good results in Norway
Anonymous 2021-10-20 (Wed) 20:58:45 No. 557018
What’s going on with the universites in Denmark? Saw some resolution passed about the conduct of research passed
Red Man 2021-10-21 (Thu) 17:23:01 No. 558191
>>554090 Cucked by idpol in Norway. Although they are left wing economically
Anonymous 2021-10-21 (Thu) 20:22:25 No. 558437
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12154244 New report shows Soviet partisans attacked Finnish villages tens of times during the Continuation War, massacring 150 civilians, many women and children.
Anonymous 2021-10-21 (Thu) 20:51:42 No. 558519
>>558437 Wait till you learn what happened to the actually communist Finns who migrated there in the 20s
Anonymous 2021-10-22 (Fri) 14:10:54 No. 559854
>>558437 >Asiakirjoista paljastui, että Suomeen tehtyjen iskujen siviilikohteet, kuten Lokka, oli väärennetty sotilaskohteiksi. Partisaanien heti iskujen jälkeen lähettämät sähkösanomat kellonaikoineen ja karttatietoineen vastasivat tarkkaan Suomen tietoja siviilikohteisin tehdyistä iskuista. <From the records it was revealed that the civilian targets of the attacks on Finland, Like Lokka, had been (forgeried)? into military targets. The partisans' reports and electrict messages sent staight after the strikes, together with their timing and (map information)? correlated strongly with Finnish knowledge regarding the strikes at civilian targets. It sounds like the partisans were either given false information regarding the targets, or more likely that they sent falsified reports to the government that they were actually military targets.
<In his book Erkkilä states that many sources point that the primary responsibility on the attacks is to the Finnish civilian-villages is on the leader of Soviet-Karelia Gennadi Kuprijanov. Interestingly enough the person mentioned here was accused in the Leningrad affair.
This isn't really news though, it's common knowledge in the north that these kind of things happened.
Anonymous 2021-10-22 (Fri) 22:21:36 No. 560689
>>556884 How the fuck did you chads manage that, while the rest of Europe's socialists got (mostly) completely BTFO'd?
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 07:17:31 No. 561137
>>560689 Adopting the immigrant policy of the right
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 11:18:11 No. 561288
>>561267 But that’s what happened, the Norwegian and Danish soccdems are the most anti immigration in Europe
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 11:48:48 No. 561307
>>561297
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 11:54:55 No. 561318
>>561137 <Re-adopting the immigrant policy of the left FTFY
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 18:45:31 No. 561911
>>561814 If you’re wondering about our true leftist parties I think one of the Leninist ones recently splintered over trans issues
Anonymous 2021-10-23 (Sat) 22:22:36 No. 562251
QUESTION <https://www.riff-raff.se/ /lit/ just suggested I read this. what does /nordpol/ think of it?
Anonymous 2021-10-26 (Tue) 16:47:17 No. 567430
>>562251 It's ultraleft stuff in the councilist/communization tendency.
Anonymous 2021-10-26 (Tue) 16:50:44 No. 567433
>>566878 This looks like a guardian author profile picture
Anonymous 2021-10-27 (Wed) 19:39:14 No. 569813
efter de här skriverierna om adoptionsbarn som handelsvara antar jag vi alla är skyldiga tobias hubinette ett stort förlåt
Anonymous 2021-10-27 (Wed) 19:43:16 No. 569830
>>569813 Okay let me guess…
>After they have … about adopted children … I will … Don't know what this means.
Anonymous 2021-10-31 (Sun) 17:54:59 No. 574859
Olen piakkoin muuttamassa pienestä tuppukylästä suureen yliopistokaupunkiin. Mitkä ovat parhaita paikkoja tavata toisia vallankumouksellisia?
Anonymous 2021-11-10 (Wed) 17:39:21 No. 592140
“Borgerlig idé att det är viktigt med kvinnlig statsminister ”
sage sage 2021-11-13 (Sat) 18:29:25 No. 596363
>>592353 >vänsterpolitik är när vi har en obruten linje av manliga statsministrar detta kommer säkerligen att bli en givande politisk diskussion änna
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 20:28:50 No. 596490
>>596363 det roliga är att du säkert är seriös
stadiet av vänstern
Anonymous 2021-11-14 (Sun) 00:31:35 No. 596684
>>596541 Ni får lära er skandinaviska i skolan. Gör bruk av det.
Anonymous 2021-11-14 (Sun) 02:16:32 No. 596889
>>514328 vad fan, jag tänkte mig inte att det skulle finnas andra som har gått milin i Nylands Brigad här
Anonymous 2021-11-14 (Sun) 21:58:39 No. 597912
>>596363 >vänsterpolitik är när vi har en statsminister med fitta istället för kuk jag bryr mig inte om vilket kön högsta hönset i socialfascismen har anon
>>596541 nej
Anonymous 2021-11-17 (Wed) 11:12:42 No. 602115
>>550224 Your father did better as a communist in capitalist Finland than most communist Finns did in communist russia
Anonymous 2021-11-17 (Wed) 16:36:42 No. 602345
>>602119 Why were so many Finns guilty of wrecking in the USSR?
Anonymous 2021-11-19 (Fri) 22:34:03 No. 606839
Rödpillra mig om tobias hubinette.
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 09:57:24 No. 608131
>>606839 bokstavligen vem?
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 10:59:21 No. 608199
>>602345 It was mostly Finnish communists who founded the Soviet Karelia (Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic) and took most of the leadership positions. The project of building socialism in Karelia took a very Finnish form in terms of language, culture etc. while Karelian people and culture was not equally represented in the Party and govt of Republic.
Eventually this led the CPSU accusing many Finnish communists being guilty of bourgeois-nationalism. Many Finns were expelled from the Karealian Communist Party and government positions. Later when Yezhov and his traitorous cronies in the NKVD started their killing spree, they used these accusations to execute many Finns as "spies" working for White-Finnish bourgeois-fascist secret police.
So yeah, many Finnish comrades were guilty of neglecting Karelian comrades. Many of them sure deserved to get kicked out of the Party and tought a lesson, but the Yezhovschina era accusations are mostly paranoia and product of anti-Soviet conspirators in the NKVD.
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 12:54:04 No. 608299
>>545577 >>545673 Retardation and brain rot. Finns are not "extremely conservative and nationalistic". This is moaning of radlibs and wet dreams of rightist nerds who have dipped a bit too much into their own supply. Historically Finland was ex-tre-me-ly red country. Our patriotism is of the Irish variety. Rightists are traitors to the country and the people. Bought and paid for gimp boys of foreign powers, and they should be treated as such.
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 14:22:24 No. 608355
>>608299 You can say whatever about who should lead the country but you can't deny that Finns are particularly nationalistic as it is now.
>Historically Finland was ex-tre-me-ly red country Exaggeration. Otherwise they would have swept through in 1917, or at least win.
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 15:07:30 No. 608392
>>608199 so the response to "a lot of the people trying to build the future society ending up in a ditch" is just "shit happens" ?
Anonymous 2021-11-20 (Sat) 16:28:23 No. 608462
>>608355 Damn reactionary finns whose whites werent dissunited like those in Russia and didn't want Russia to stay in terrible war
Anonymous 2021-11-22 (Mon) 18:09:28 No. 612290
>>533594 >click on video >go to comment section >see this: <spürdo sparde fr persitend! XD XD XD XD XD why though
Anonymous 2021-11-22 (Mon) 18:29:42 No. 612318
No niin poijaat, rinkirunkataas vähän.
Löyty tällaista yllättävän viiltävää analyysiä keltaisesta lehdistöstä:
https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/cbe46e55-3d09-4cba-a7c6-0c2d8d087177 Tuumin, että jooh, sitähän se tarkoittaa, että VL jää oppositioon, mutta onko tuon niin väliä. Niukaltipa löytyy ratkaisuja sieltäkään
Täällä aika hirveä ruotsi-RR. Mutta minkäs teet, niiden lautakulttuuri on olematon, vain joku kanal4, johon "Finland må ikke posta längre och ingen av värd gick förlörat." Ne on aina ihan täpinöissään, kun löytäätoisia ruuotsalaisia laudoilta :D
Anonymous 2021-12-01 (Wed) 14:57:29 No. 625484
>>625373 Finland was already right-wing, staunchly anti-communist, and had a history of cooperating with Germany. USSR didn't attack Hungary or Bulgaria yet they still attacked the USSR because they were bitches of Hitler. Same thing would likely have occurred with Finland, which mind you had its own dreams of Lebensraum into Russia.
Anonymous 2021-12-02 (Thu) 09:01:54 No. 626589
>>612318 Parasta olisi se, että meillä on porvarihallitus ja ne tekee porvariasioita häpeilemättömästi ja liitot ja kansalaisyhteiskunta lyö takaisin ja kovaa.
Nää "mussun mussun" vasemmistohallitukset töppäilemässä ja tekemässä +-0 samoja asioita kuin kokoomus on nettonegatiivinen tekijä sille, että tässä maassa tapahtuisi yhtään positiivista kehitystä ainakin mitä luokkatietoisuuteen tulee.
Anonymous 2021-12-07 (Tue) 17:56:44 No. 634903
Are work conditions degrading in your guys' countries? Things like employers cutting down on benefits, getting more aggressive against unionization, etc. like there is in America.
Anonymous 2021-12-07 (Tue) 18:12:47 No. 634918
>>625373 fuck off
he did nothing wrong
Anonymous 2021-12-09 (Thu) 20:32:40 No. 638171
>>612318 Pitäisköhän liittyä Vasemmistoliittoon. En kyllä tiedä voiko siellä oikeasti tehdä mitään muuta kyn hymistellä kiusaantuneena EU:ta kannattaville wokettajille.
Täytyy toivoa, että Teknologiateollisuus heittäis kunnon rähinät käyntiin. Neuvottelut on keskeytyneet ilmeisesti palkankorotuksista, Teollisuusliitto vaatii about 3%, joka inflaation jälkeen on 1%. Aivan vitunmoista pelletouhua, että liitto ei tämmösenä aikana vaadi enempää, ja että noistakin vitun hikisistä roposista joudutaan tappelemaan.
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 11:46:19 No. 640930
>>640852 I warned you about NATO bro
I told you dog
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 20:02:57 No. 641383
>>641373 Won't minimum wage standards bolster the quality of life of people, or is minimum wage going down somehow?
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 20:18:06 No. 641418
>>641383 for the Swedish case it is ultimately an infringement on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltsj%C3%B6baden_Agreement tl;dr: in Sweden and most other Scandinavian countries wages are haggled between the unions and the employers. this ensures high union membership
>Won't minimum wage standards bolster the quality of life of people It Depends. look at the US. on the other hand my inner accelerationist hopes porky is this stupid also in the EU, because low wages in the core undermines imperialism
>or is minimum wage going down somehow? this remains to be seen. but the EU is a bourgeois institution, so we already know the general direction in which it moves
gotta go, drinking with some buddies
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 20:47:15 No. 641447
>>641418 >low wages in the core undermines imperialism i thought it was the opposite, you know like in the US where wages are low so that the military has an easier time hiring people to risk life and limb to go off murdering in some foreign land for porky super-profits.
Anonymous 2021-12-11 (Sat) 23:39:24 No. 641636
>>641447 but anon that just moves where the core is
as the EU goes the same direction as the US, here too we will see the rise of a mercenary war machine. there is already talk in this direction
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 00:18:31 No. 641676
>>641636 You really think the EU will copy the US's failed strategy ?
Name one war the US has actually won in the last 20 years.
Also the EU doesn't have enough domestic energy reserves to play empire.
>the rise of a mercenary war machine. Mercenaries kinda suck though, they have no incentive to win, they have an incentive to drag out conflicts indefinitely, and milk it for money.
Anonymous 2021-12-12 (Sun) 01:27:09 No. 641791
>>641676 >You really think the EU will copy the US's failed strategy ? we're all living in amerika
more seriously, I dunno
Anonymous 2021-12-13 (Mon) 18:42:49 No. 644075
vad i tusan det snöar här på leftypol
Anonymous 2021-12-24 (Fri) 16:09:43 No. 659018
>>659000 Emmä vietä joulua
ei oo varsinainen lomaa
Anonymous 2021-12-29 (Wed) 09:35:15 No. 665385
vad läser ni?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 02:24:02 No. 674311
finalnd introducing a 24hour (4x6) work week?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 03:02:20 No. 674345
Finland considering joining NATO??
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:38:33 No. 674865
>>674345 They just said they have the right to and don't have to listen to Russia, pretty sure it's not tabled right now. Most Finns also oppose outright membership, though Finland was working with NATO anyways already.
Anonymous 2022-01-08 (Sat) 15:33:42 No. 681749
>>674345 It's always an option to use as diplomatic pressure
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 17:50:25 No. 685400
Socialdemokratisk statsminister får villan städad av illegal & underbetald migrantarbetare. varför gör dom så här
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 19:07:13 No. 685504
>>685400 >ledaren för ett borgerligt parti gör borgerliga saker >varför gör dom så här anon jag
Anonymous 2022-01-10 (Mon) 22:40:11 No. 685749
>>674345 You can't blame them when you consider Russia is next to them.
Unique IPs: 140