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 No.211966[Last 50 Posts]

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.

 No.328115

>>325621
it's about deregulating rent as >>327249 says
one possible result of this is a snap election (nyval), since no other government constellation is likely to be voted through given current parliamentary makeup. in this case we'll likely see V and SD get more votes, L being ejected from parliament and possibly MP and (om gud vill det) KD also being ejected

 No.328144

>>328115
These parties mean nothing to me, is your projected result good or bad?

 No.328145

>>328115
>tfw may live to see a parliament with actual fascists and communists, but no FP, KD or MP
not the future I envisioned, but I'll take it. dialektiken är stadd i rörelse kamrater

 No.328151

>>328144
Not her, but:
>L = neolib shitheel party with vague classical liberal characteristics
>MP = neolib shitheel party with vague environmelntal characteristics
>KD = neolib shitheel party with vague christian characteristics

 No.328153

>>328145
>V
>kommunister
anon jag

 No.328154

>>328153
jamen kolla, om V får fler mandat så ökar chansen att en genuin kommunist får en ledamotspost
MATEMATIK och FAKTA ok kamrat kompis

 No.328158

>>328154
om V kan sluta sossa ner sig först så skulle jag ha mer tro på detta
jag lär nog rösta på V vilket som

 No.328193

>>312533
Meh, not comparable to Sp anyway.

 No.328207

It's live https://www.nrk.no/valg/2021/valgomat/

Got Rødt obviously, but it's fun to compare with other parties, like seeing how retarded MDG are at times.

 No.328240

Grejen är bara att det är väldigt svårt för mig att få upp förhoppningarna med V när de är så jävla kassa. De kommer nu altså försöka avveckla den centristiska regeringen för att låta SD få mer mandat och några futtiga mer åt sig själva (ett parti emdast bestående av socialdemokrater). Hittar inte linjen för förhoppningar i detta.
Om V hade utveckats mer som det Norska Rødt så hade jag kunnat förstå hur man kan se potential i nån slags intra-kommunistisk återuppståndelse i det döende partiet, eftersom dom t.ex. faktiskt låter sådana personer ta plats i organisationen. Vart är Marxisterna, kommunisterna i V? I Kommunistiska Partiet (K), förmodligen.

 No.328314

>>328158
battered wife syndrome
t. lär nog också rösta v

 No.329422

Not a big fan of being on this site, however,

LÖFVEN IS GONE. LET THE CHAOS BEGIN.

 No.329548

>>329422
>LÖFVEN IS GONE
<Fattar tag om popcorn:en
>Not a big fan of being on this site, however,
Kan du utveckla lite varför du tycker så? Som en svensk som länge använt sajten; jag har märkt att, till skillnad från många andra nationaliteter, så är det väldigt få svenskar här och jag är nyfiken till varför detta är fallet.

 No.329640

>>329548
Han/Hon kanske inte vill umgås med anglos hela dagarna. ;)

 No.329756

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>>329640
han/hon får tuffa till sig

 No.329759

>>328240
>Vart är Marxisterna, kommunisterna i V? I Kommunistiska Partiet (K), förmodligen.
i min erfarenhet finns de i K. jag vet att det finns en del folk i V som läst Kapitalet, men det märks tyvärr inte utåt

>>328314
;_;

>>329640
>*nglos
censurera dina skällsord, mannen

 No.329771

>>328240
>>329759 (jag)
kan tillägga att jag planerar sprida snoppskottska tankar i K när pandemin är över. för sajber i framtiden!

 No.329778

Осааткохан не руотсалаисет тэллэ енглантиа? Воисин ванноа, еттэ се оли енглантикиелинен лаута.spurdoSpurdo

 No.329819

>>329771
>kan tillägga att jag planerar sprida snoppskottska tankar i K
Baserat! Har planerat att göra detsamma. Vi kanske ses 😳Kommer inte säga vilken stad jag skriver från

 No.329831

>>329759
Hur är K egentligen, och vad har hänt med Rättvisepartiet?

Censur?

 No.329835

>>329640
Vart hänger svenska vänstermänniskor äns online? Är det bara Fa*ebook nuförtiden eller? IG? Reddit?

 No.329846

>>329835
Ingen aning, jag använder varken FB, reddit eller IG (vad det nu är). Flashback har en del, typ 8 personer som leker Q&A med avskummet som annars hänger där.

 No.329848

Blir det nyval nu eller? Vem kommer att bilda regering?

 No.329853

>>329835
jag saknar socialism.nu, det var goda tider.

 No.329860

>>329846
IG = Insta = Instagram

 No.330044

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https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11991803
A minor bombshell - Halla-aho wont run in the next 'Finns' Party chairman election.

What nao, my Finnish dudes??
>inb4 mikään ei muutu - elektoralismi on vain distraktion ikuisesta vallankumoksesta!

 No.330066

Never mind, it looks like Löfven wqas replaced by Löfven.

Wut?

 No.330109

>>330044
Hän näkyy kuin “se tunne kun liian älykäs„-kuva

 No.330114

>>330044
Riikka Purra will replace him, and the same shit continues. The party didn't need Halla-Aho to rise, and it won't go down with him either, I'm afraid. But I do think this will curtail their popularity somewhat. Halla-Aho had actual popularity among proles.

 No.330124

>>330066
Swedebros, explain yourselves.

 No.330173

>>329819
>Har planerat
jag ser vad du gjorde där
är inte aktiv i K, men man vet aldrig vad framtiden bjuder
håll utkik efter anspelningar om "ryskt matrjosjka-forum"

>>329835
ingen jävla aning. tycker jag bara ser cancerskärmdumpar från twitter och FB. en yngre kamrat säger att det är på tiktok det händer. dagens ungdom…

>>330124
käbbel

 No.331665

>>330066
so nothing changed?

 No.332610

>>331665
The Center Party and the Left Party are having huge troubles agreeing on a budget at the moment. The sosses are dependent on mandates from both these parties to make a coalition. The Liberals don't want to be with a sosse-center coalition anymore and wanna only team with the Moderates instead. The sosses have 5 days on them to tell if they are going to hold a snap election or resign (talman will try to make a new coalition in that case).

It's looking more likely for a snap election as the sosses can't build a coalition with support of the majority of the parlament.

The smug Center Party could in theory reign alone despite only getting like 8% of the votes.

 No.332641

>>332610
>The sosses have 5 days on them
top swenglish

 No.332654

>>332610
>sosses
Whut?

 No.332665

>>332654
succdems

 No.333197

Well the situation with PS is that Halla-aho has unified the party, now he steps down but does not disappear - he will still hold considerable power in the party for a year or two atleast and still sits in the Helsinki city coinsil. It's too early to tell where the party will head now but what is it is not is the 'Finnish Rural Party', those old 'leash thr ctrime-barons' populist elements have now been completely purged and the party is solidly conservative and right wing. Still bonkers, mind you, none of the possible replacenet candidates are sane or stable people in any way.

Other news: the social- and healthcare referom 'SoTe' went through. *party whistles*
So now there are 18 or so social services and health care 'provinces' with elected government. This has been in the making from, 2015 at least. Probably some share of the municipal tax will now be diverted to these 'provinces'. that's still future how that will be handled we'll see but the first election should be in early 2022 - ho hum.

>>332641
This is fine, we have some passive swedish knowledge, but the level of collequalism here goes at above at lest my head :(

>>332610
Thank you.
Are we looking for a moderaterna led goverment in Sweden in 2022 (I doubt not right way though)?

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 No.333374

>>333197
Well, this shit was about "market rents". There is a claim that most swedes don't want market rents so if Moderaterna (macht frei) and their "omg market rents so good!" - coalition wins the next election we can draw the conclusion that swedes are just as retarded as I think they are. If Ayn Rand Lööf gets anywhere close to ruling anything but her own kid I am srsly defecting to the DPRK.

 No.333821

>>333366
>Ⓐ
>☭
lysmaskar ligger geranterat bakom detta

 No.333875

>>333821
Säpo-Kenneth igen.

 No.333966

>>333875
i mitt sinne är det Lennart Bladh. han dog aldrig, utan blev rekryterad av myndigheterna då han var sanningen på spåret. varje gång något skumt händer så är det inte lysisar utan mantisar som ligger bakom

 No.334078

>>333966
Ja, varför inte. Det ena är ju lika troligt som det andra.

 No.335302

>>330114
>Halla-Aho had actual popularity among proles.
True. I assume he'll become like a Heinäluoma (famous old demari) kind of figure within the Finns party. He'll bring his considerable personal votes to the party pot and is able to influence its policy, if all goes well - and he's a kind of guy who likes that sort of thing. Anyway his real problem is his past writings and his way too long membership in Suomen Sisu, a fascist organization. Along with a not entirely ironic cult of personality he has going. All that makes a bit too tough optics for a prime minister, say.

So he steps down now, when it's convenient.
The talk will be all about the budget in august when they will be having that party meeting of theirs.

No worries, Purra's a Sisu-person too.

 No.335321

>>335302
Yeah, the fascistic stuff isn't just optics either, it's a real deal breaker for many prole voters. I know a guy at work who's got serious Persu sympathies. Worked the same factory job for 20 years, doesn't speak a foreign language and is scared of immigration, but he just can't stand the open racism of the party. I swear to God, if the Left was sble to just listen to guys like him on immigration, and actually do the smallest thing for the workers, Persut would be a non-entity among the proles. Depressing.

 No.340272

So is the Swedish Social Democrats gonna form a government?

 No.342083

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vila i frid peps :(

 No.342689

>>342083
VIF i frid

 No.344742

jag hoppas alla här inne dagligen lyssnar på zyklon boom/zum beispiel/marre maräng

 No.345362

Hi, not Scandinavian, just posting to say that I miss Jan Myrdal every day :(palestinePalestine

 No.346066

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>>345362
Yeah, Myrdal was based

 No.346546

SAATANA PERKELE VIINAA

 No.346549

Blir det nyval eller?

 No.346851

>>346549
/kafferep/ med talmannen först, men efter det kanske. om inte C kan tänka sig kohandla med V

 No.349831

Hur är stämningen i Sverige efter polismordet?

 No.349843

>>349831
Petite-bourgeois corporatists, liberals and neocons seething

 No.350160

>>329853
Verkligen. Hängt på leftypol sedan den gick i graven.

 No.350344

>>349831
"En attack på vårt fria samhälle!!!"

 No.350377

>>350344
"Samhället måste agera!"

 No.350869

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>>349831
>Vi måste stå enade mot detta fruktansvärda illdåd!
>Ett hot mot demokratin!
>V-vi använder alla resurser för att hitta mördaren!

en gris mindre, boo fucking hoo

 No.351389

>>350869
>han sparar tumnaglar

 No.351480

>>351389
<hon vet inte hur hemsan funkar

 No.351484

>>211966
hey, Krautfag here, can anyone give me a short rundown of how shit is going up there?

 No.351487

>>349831
Normala svenskar upprörda, parasiter glada

 No.351549

>>351484
Sweden is an absolute shitshow. Norway being mountainporkies. Danes are ok i guess? Neoliberal right wing populist coalition taking power soon in Finland.

 No.351669

>>351549
don't both norway and denmark both have reactionary parties in goberment? also
>Norway
>mountainporkies
>not mountainuyghurs

 No.351675

>>351669
they are soccdems, soccdems who are willing to sacrifice being pro immigration to stay in rule
if that makes them reactionary is up to you
and swedish soccdems, who are among the other few still relevant "lefty" parties in Europe, are going down the same path unsurprisingly

 No.351696

>>351675
>and swedish soccdems, who are among the other few still relevant "lefty" parties in Europe, are going down the same path unsurprisingly
fair point

 No.351762

>>351487
Parasiterna är kapitalisterna. Poliserna är deras skydd.

 No.351785

>>351762
sverige är ett sånt land som om det inte fanns poliser att slå ner revolutionärer skulle folket bilda miliser att göra det
så de enda polisen skyddar kapitalister mot är desamma de skyddar medelsvennson mot, om du inte anser tjuvar har heder

 No.351956

>>351675
>they are soccdems, soccdems who are willing to sacrifice being pro immigration to stay in rule
The succs haven't been in power in 8 years, though odds are they'll get back in this fall. At least this time they'll have a decently sized Rødt on their left to call them on their shit policy.

 No.352458

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Fresh numbers from Dagbladet: http://archive.today/rDp4q

 No.352489

>>351956
This. Its neoliberal policy to crush the welfare state.

 No.352492

>>351669
Norwegians fill their mountains with gold. uyghurs fill them with taliban fighters and gay sex.

 No.352994

>>352458
Why Sp is so popular? Ruralites having false consciousness?

 No.353030

>>211966
klass mot klass pic: why is all that garbage on the floor

 No.353325

Finns det någon marxistisk förklaring varför bönderna historiskt sett var friare i vissa länder än andra som tex sverige kontra ryssland?

 No.353330

>>352994
I think it has something to do with the norwegian countryside still being a viable place to both live and work in, unlike sweden

 No.353358

>>352994
>>353330
They seem to be taking a lot of votes from KrF, V, H, FrP voters who are dissatisfied with the current government but don't really get why the gov sucks.

 No.353430

>>352994
Euroscepticism

 No.353550

Are Norway Parliament proportional? I saw the seat projections and it doesn’t tally with vote %. If it isn’t then how come SV and R don’t make electoral alliance or pacts?

 No.353612

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Hur löser vi det här?

 No.353805

>>353550
Semi-proportional, if a party get 4% or more votes, it gets to partake in the deployment of leveling seats, but parties below this only get the initial seats. This is why Rødt currently only has one seat but is projected to get 8 or more.

 No.354044

>>353612
Socialisera Tobias Hübinettes fastigheter.

 No.354046

>>351675
I wish Swedish socdems would be like this.

 No.354058

>>353612
sommarstugor är ett borgerligt påfund

 No.358074

>laitan Pohjanmaidan langan päälle
>hypään ruotsalaiskielten vastauksia yli
>"Jaaha, ei oo mitään tänään"
>menen takasin mihin tahansa tein aiemmin
Mut ensin nyt uutista Suomelta: Riikka Purra-niminen nainen aio Persen puheenjohtajuudeksi: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12003400
Parhaillaan on varapuheenjohtaja.

 No.358141

>>211988
>manipulates the entire swedish political landscape for over 7 years
>btfos rightoids, leftoids and centroids
He's too powerful, I yield

 No.359412

>>358141
Stefan "Svetsarn" Löfvén
Stefan "Jag är riksdagen" Löfvén

 No.359424

>>358074
Pohjoismaiden. Jos tämä olisi Pohjanmaiden lanka, täällä puhuttaisiin varmaan vielä enemmän ruotsia.

 No.359427

>>358074
Ja Riikka Purra on ihan painajaismainen akka. Tatcher 2.0 with juntti charasteristics.

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 No.360136

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FINBROS
Look at this shit. Apparently by the average wealth per adult, we are closer to Eastern Europe than to Western European countries, certainly much closer to East Yuropoors than Scandis? Now, this info is from Päivän Byrokraatti (I'll link it in the end), but the numbers check out. It doesn't surprise me we are way bellow other Nordics, but it does surprise me we're actually closer to the old Eastern Bloc countries.

1. What are the causes of this (I mean actual causes, not what PB pushes)
2. What conclusions should we draw from this in terms of the conditions of the Finnish proletariat, and our strategy going forward and
3. Should we seced from the Nordic General and take our rightful place among our East Europen comrades?

Here's the PB article, if you can read it without grinding your teeth to dust: https://paivanbyrokraatti.com/2021/07/06/suomi_jaa_jalkeen_lansimaista/?fbclid=IwAR2RL7IC2uPEswEj0IUPtYF4VE4AteSNLu27pG5dbMCCmZKyJf8Wk-Oumrg

 No.360189

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>>360136
Sweden is so high because they have a lot of billionaires.

 No.360201

>>360189
Why is Finland so far behind though? Is it particularly aggressive against tax evasion or something?

 No.360224

>>360201
I don't by that it's simply a difference in billionaires. In 2001 the Swedish and Finnish average was about the same, meaning Finland has fallen behind massively.

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 No.360569

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 No.360974

>>358141
So what is his new coalition going to be?

 No.365809

Bump. WHAT HAPPENED??

 No.365842

>>365809
same goberment as before, except they need to find a new landsbygdsminister (rural minister). or maybe they can re-appoint Jennie Nilsson?

 No.366230

>>365842
And this whole debacle doesn't end badly atleast some of the parties involved, or do they calculate there's enough time to elections for the voters to forget? Is there though? I read somewhere that the next potential crisis with Löfven's minority cabinet will be with the budget at autumn.

All I can say it's hard to imagine that sort of thing play out here. If this happened here, the V-party would feel it in the next elections and get reminded of it all until eternity. "You want to dissolve the government again, eh?"

Why replace the rural minister specifically?

 No.366675

>>366230
>Why replace the rural minister specifically?
she resigned in order to regain her seat in parliament so she could take part in the vote

 No.367696

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Red Party still climbing up in the polls with a record 6%. Is Norway finally getting commiepilled?socialismSocialism

 No.367744

>>367696
I Hope so

 No.367757

>>367696
Even Ap and SV are rising. That’s a good sign. How many seats they gonna take?

 No.367873

>>367696
What's happening in Norway to cause this rise for the Red party? And what is the Red party doing right? Vikingbros, 'splain yo' selvez.

 No.367893

>>367873
Actually I am one of the campaign staffers in the Red Party so I can try to explain.

In short terms it is mostly because the Red Party is very uncompromising, even to the other left wing parties. So people see that they actually do what they are told.

They have also with just one representative done a lot of stuff and people see them as a very clear opposition.

The rise of the Red Party is phenomenal, only rivaling the once right wing populist party The Progressive Party.socialismSocialism

 No.368021

>>367893
Since it isn’t proportional representation, would forming an electoral pact with SV get you more seats? Would R even want to?

 No.368044

>>211966
Mysig bio. Var någonstans? :-)technocracyTechnocracy

 No.368058

>>368021
The problem is that SV wants go into a coalition with AP (Labour), for Red that is a no-go and therefore making an electoral pact would be unfeasble and that is despite our policies being very much alike.

If I could try to make a comparison, then I would say SV believes in putting socialism through electoral means, while Red does believe in a vague sense a revolution.socialismSocialism

 No.368070

>>368058
A few more questions, based Red Man.

1. What is SV?

2. Also, has there been some happenings in Norway that would cause people to look for alternative?

3. I hear that Red party is still somewhat Communist and has actual backing within actual working class people, like oil and public transit workers. Is this true?

 No.368218

>>368058
It cant be a short term ' get as much seats' agreement? You two have to sync approach to government too?

 No.368235

Kinda off-topic, but Mika is my favorite ScandinaviannaxaliteNaxalite

 No.369265

>>368070
Sosialistisk Venstreparti (socialist left party).

 No.369365

>>367893
>The rise of the Red Party is phenomenal, only rivaling the once right wing populist party The Progressive Party.
Ah, yes! The rise of the populists.technocracyTechnocracy

 No.369544


>>368070
SV is the Socialist Left Party. They are in theory a socialist party, but in practice a social democratic party (in the real post war sense however). They are trying to become this big-tent left wing party, trying to unite environmentalists, agragrians and so on.

2. Covid-19 has made the differences between the rich and the poor much more apparant. With students struggling, healthcare workers and teachers are even forbid to strike and people lining up to get food more then ever. It has made Red much more appealing to the general population. Now that is in the short term.
In the long term I would say it is the natural tendency of a social democratic country to get rid of its welfare programs. As social democracy is built on class peace, meaning that to not provoke class war (with the high union rates and all that) you go with a boiling the frog movement. Focusing on "effeciency" and stating that this is to make the welfare state better and so on so on. It is a bit hard to explain in a written way for me without me going to deep into how Norwegian Capitalism is organized.

3. This is true yes. It has the word communism on its maximum program, although the leadership does not like that word. Probably the best thing with the Red Party is that it promotes ordinary working class members to its parliamentary lists and not apparatchiks, to a large degree of course.

>>369365
It is true that the Red Party is a populistic party, but what seperates it from other populist parties in Norway (of which we have a had a few). Is that it has a steady growth of members and voters. Now does that mean it will not meet the same problem as Podemos, Syriza and Enhedslisten. Sure, but that is why we have a party democracy.socialismSocialism

 No.369568

>>369544
>It is a bit hard to explain in a written way for me without me going to deep into how Norwegian Capitalism is organized.
Please do.

 No.369966

>>369544
>Now does that mean it will not meet the same problem as Podemos, Syriza and Enhedslisten.
Isn't Enhedslisten like your sister party? What problem does Enhedslisten face?

 No.370136

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DEUS VOOLTERak-47AK-47

 No.373382

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>>369568
To start with the problem of social democracy and the Norwegian kind more specifically we need to understand how this specific form of capitalism is organized. So Social Democracy predicates on giving the maximal concession to the workers in the economic and some concessions of the political sphere (in terms of increased democracy, increased women’s rights, minority rights, LGBT rights etc.). As the goal is to the end the class war and going to class peace. It is not just capitalism with welfare like social liberalism. As Social Liberalism predicates on not giving concessions to the workers but helping them with the market.
This class peace is institutionalized by accepting workers unions and establishing capitalistic unions, with the state being the moderator. This is called roughly translated Three Parts Cooperative. In Norway, the workers are (mainly) represented by LO, and capitalists are (mainly) represented by NHO, and the State is the political sphere of the capitalists. The goal of the State is to facilitate that the tensions are as low as possible so that the political field is not changed to drastically. This means that the negotiations are rarely by striking or lockout, but rather through consensus facilitated by the State between LO and NHO. Since the profit rate was so high and the economy back then was not nearly globalized as now, the Norwegian capitalists did not see the reason to exploit the workers as hard as their European counterparts. Instead, they traded this for less political radicalism. Now even if NHO tried to do back then something radical, the state would intervene and fight for the workers in order to keep the peace. During the 50’s and 60’s the class peace was so strong that the liberals who wanted to remove social democracy essentially capitulated to the progressive reforms.
The issue of social democracy as we Marxists know that class peace is fundamentally impossible due to the contradiction of labour and capital. Norwegian Social Democracy specifically predicates on oil and a high rate of profit in order to maintain its high rate of welfare in theory. The issue is that rate of profit has sunk, and oil is becoming less and less demanded in the world market, making it much harder to establish a fair consensus and as we know the capitalist’s nature of infinite expansion has to expand somewhere. This led to partial privatization, splitting public companies, cutting of benefits for the poorest of the working class etc. Which has reinvigorated the class war in Norway.
In order to conclude, the main problem of social democracy is not its imperialism (solely), but rather that the system is predicated on an inherent contradiction that seeks to unite labour and capital.socialismSocialism

 No.374895

>>369966
It has done compromises with the Social Democratic leading it to stagnate like Blocco de Esquerra in Portugal.socialismSocialism

 No.374992

>>373382
Good post. We have essentially the same system in Finland.

>Social Democracy predicates on giving the maximal concession to the workers in the economic and some concessions of the political sphere (in terms of increased democracy, increased women’s rights, minority rights, LGBT rights etc.). As the goal is to the end the class war and going to class peace. It is not just capitalism with welfare like social liberalism. As Social Liberalism predicates on not giving concessions to the workers but helping them with the market.

True to a degree, but as we know, the capitalists have firmly been moving towards social liberalism. Inside the past year alone two of the biggest employer organizations in Finnish industrial sector have unilaterally decided to end the system of negotiating nationa contracts with the unions. We'll soon see if they're playing as tough in deeds as in speech.

>In order to conclude, the main problem of social democracy is not its imperialism (solely), but rather that the system is predicated on an inherent contradiction that seeks to unite labour and capital.

> the main problem of social democracy is not its imperialism
This, so much this. The "le imperialism" meme as the go to explanation for Nordic social democracy is a stupid, lazy cop out. Social Democracy was something that, at least in Finland, was created through super intense and militaant class struggle, with Social Democrats pretending to be basically Socialists but more "moderate" and "responsible". Yeah, yeah, I know, SucDems are traitors and they killed Rosa in Krautland etc. etc. but come on. Social Democracy, such as it can be said to have existed as a system distinct from what you call social liberalism, has been disintegrating with ever increasing rapidity as we have become integrated to the imperialist Western economy.

The concessions weren't given by wise and far-seeing capitalists, they were taken by the workers. This needs to be understood by the Communists today.

 No.375030

>>374895
Oh really? Enhedslisten looks to be in confidence and supply arrangements at best. Hell they are even polling the highest ever lately. I always thought that european left wing parties usually stagnate after a while because the populace just doesn't want socialism. I doubt that Red will break 10%, at least not at the extreme expense of SV and Ap. Even PVDA-PTB with very similar ideology and approach to government as yours is stagnating at the polls lately. Of course I hope to be proven wrong!

Also I do agree with you about social democracy being a cursed alliance between labour and captial. My country's Rosa-killers betrayed my more radical socialists and communists and build Tripartism and a welfare state that is slowly falling apart in post-USSR neoliberalism

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 No.375585

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>>375030
From my comrades on the left wing of Red, we seem to be inspired more by PVDA-PTB of which I have heard they have reached new heights. On the right wing of Red they seem to be more inspired by Enhedslisten, but if you can show me the polls I would be very interested.
With the Red Party I do really think it will rise to 10-15% in the future. There are no parties that really want to take a firm opposition to the gap between the rich and the poor quite so seriously. We also see in Norwegian politics that parties really get a boost when they break the parliamentary limit of 4%, but I can be wrong of course. Also if you are a Danish Comrade tell me about the situation there.

>>374992
Thank you! I am not the best at writing so I appreciate it. However as I know in Finland the left is really struggling there, just as in Sweden. Is there really any hope for a resurgent left in trying to overcome the social democratic quagmire?socialismSocialism

 No.375590

Greta Thunberg is the least autistic Nordic person.

 No.376238

>>375585
>Enhedslisten, but if you can show me the polls I would be very interested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Danish_general_election

Enhedslisten is reaching 8 to 9% in the polls in 2019, and not at the expense of Socialist People's Party and Social Democrats.

>With the Red Party I do really think it will rise to 10-15% in the future

I hope it does too. It is interesting to see two different socialist parties appealing to different sections of the country.

I am sorry but I am not European, I just want to know more about the Red Party, PVDA-PTB, Enhedslisten to push my local demsucc (think SV and Die Linke tier) party in that direction

 No.376918

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>>376238
I wish you luck! It aint easy, but it is worth a trysocialismSocialism

 No.376962

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Svängde runt Åland senaste veckan, överraskades av vad som verkade att vara en relativt aktiv scen I Mariehamn. Väntade int' nå't sånt från en stad med ca. 11 000 invånare.
Känner nå'n här folk däromkringifrån? Nå't om scenen i stan? Min nyfikenhet vaknade på vägen till Pub Ettan.

Koukkasin Ahvenanmaan kautta viime viikolla ja yllätyin aktiivisen skenen ilmiöistä Maarianhaminassa. En ihan odottanut sellaista noin 11 000 asukkaan kaupungilta.
Tunteeko kukaan täällä ketään tuoltapäin? Jotain paikallisesta skenestä? Uteliaisuuteni heräsi matkalla Pub Ettaniin.

Swung 'round Åland last week, was surprised by what seemed to be a surprisingly active scene in Mariehamn. Didn't expect that from a city with about 11 000 inhabitants.
Does someone here know anyone from thereabout? Something about the local scene? My curiosity was tickled on the way to Pub Ettan.

 No.377341

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>>373382
So how exactly does Nordic social democracy differ from the Strasserite ideal of class collaboration?

 No.377350

>>376918
Oh man I wish Moxnes was even a tenth as based as Stalin. Though don't let VG see that picture!

 No.377562

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>>377341
Economically they are similiar (in theory), in fact when writing the blue book which was the basis of Norwegian Social Democracy post WW2 they (Gerhardsen and co) were very much afraid of being linked to how fascists (Quisling) organized their economy.

However one crucial fact which is missing is the context of these reforms. In the case of fascism more specifically the more revolutionary wave of which Strasserism is insipired by the class collaboration is seen as a way to transcend the conflict by Fascists. However Fascists in practice are oppurturnistic and never implement these reforms truly and end up consolidating with the bourgeiois.

As for Social Democracy this is still in the context of bourgeiois parliamentary democracy and comes from the percieved or real threat of revolution. Therefore if these reforms are not implemented then there is a high chance of the workers actually making a revolution.

>>377350
I have met Moxnes a couple of times and he is pretty interesting. As a leader he has the skills and charisma no doubt, the irony with him though is that he defintively a fan of iron-clad centralism within the party similar to the Bolsheviks in the late 1918-1919s.socialismSocialism

 No.377674

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>>377562
fascism lowered wages of workers and drove privatization to insane levels
social democrats increased wages and put a lot of industry into the public sector
Neoliberalism is closer to fascism than social democracy

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>>377674
In practice and functionally yes, but Fascism is distinct and something very specific. We should be careful not making Fascism the boogeyman of the Left.socialismSocialism

 No.377856

Medans Hyresgästföreningen bevisade sig själv vara extremt baserad nyligen med deras motsättning mot marknadshyror utan att förespråka något officiellt parti i vår karusell-riksdag - vad av fackföreningarna?
För mig står det mellan LO och SAC pga att de är dom som organiserar på industriprincipen. Men LO, till skillnad från Hyresgästföreningen, är partibundet till Socialdemokraterna och har de senaste åren röstat ja på ett antal olika arbetar-fientliga områden (t.ex. angående strejkrätt, LAS… har även varit korruptionskandaler med att LOs fackpamp tagit pengar från LO bössan och använt för semesterresor…).
Detta har ledt mig in i en knutpunkt som jag har svårt att resonera mig ut ur. "Borde jag som Marxist-Leninist gå med i SAC?" är min fråga till er kamrater, helt enkelt.

 No.377933

>>375585
>Thank you! I am not the best at writing so I appreciate it. However as I know in Finland the left is really struggling there, just as in Sweden. Is there really any hope for a resurgent left in trying to overcome the social democratic quagmire?
Right now the situation seems hopeless in the short term. The Social Democratic party is still rather strong and is associated heavily as the Left in the minds of workers. Aside from this we have the Left Alliance (which I'll for now call VL) which is a satanic abomonation of a radlib party. For my entire life they've staid at 8%, give or take 1%, and they seem to be quite happy occupying this position. They're a thoroughly, completely bourgeoisfied "big tent" party for radlibs.

Aside from these, we have two Communist parties. SKP and KTP. Both are miniscule and isolated. KTP is the more "based" in terms of theory, but they have more historical baggage than actual future potential, as I judge it. They're like monks preserving the integrity of ML theory against opportunist revisionism or whatever, but what good is a revolutionary vanguard that's completely cut off from the masses? I was shortly a member of this party, and while I respect them, I don't see a future there. SKP are a bunch of radlibs, even cringier than the VL.

The VL does have some working class base in the construction trades, nurses and rural workers of the North. But the party is led by a Finnish-Swedish rich kid intellectual, and her ilk has completely taken charge. They take their working class support for granted, and don't seem to wonder at all why literally all frustration at SocDems is channeled to the far right rather than left. They're just not interested in truly radical politics, or even basic class politics.

It all seems very bleak. My only position now is to try building working class consciousness from within the union movement, community organizing or something along those lines. Actual proles, even the ones who sympathize the far right, are pretty smart and easilly open to persuasion and solidarity. I think part of the problem is that the history of class struggle in Finland is particularilly bloody and difficult, more so than in other Nordic countries. Workers actually appreciare Social Democracy for this reason, and are ultimately reluctant to take up the arms of class war once again.

I'm still hopeful though. I can't see it right now, but there's something brewing. I also believe that once the class concsious starts taking shape, it will also be all the more militant.

To put it in another way: In some Western countries, especially Burgerland, you can see a willingness and curiosity for some kind of class consciousness, but people don't quite know what it entails and how to get there. In Finland there's an obvious necessity and growing preassure for class consciousness, but people do know what it entails and what it'll take, so they are reluctant and unwilling.

What I find difficult to understand is, why does Norway have so much better (if still not good) situation with the Left. If you were to guess, what would you say is the difference between the conditions of the Left in Norway and Sweden, for example?

 No.377944

>>377856
>Borde jag som Marxist-Leninist gå med i SAC?
jag misstänker att de inte är superpeppade på att ha ML:ar som medlemmar. men jag tror inte det skadar att ha ett örat åt deras håll åtminstone. jag har lite grejer att ta upp med min lokala SAC-avdelning

 No.377948

Good editorial about the role of state intelligence agencies, with a predictable tard in the comment. Translate with google.
https://www.nordnorskdebatt.no/myndighetene-er-pa-farlige-veier/o/5-124-133064?

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>>377933
Interesting. I think it is mainly because the Red Party and the Socialist Left party has made a secret agreement to tone down the idpol from a strategic viewpoint. Also the Red Party focuses a lot of work in grassroot movements and Trade Union movements and it actively tries to get their endorsements. Recently it got an endorsement from an organization that wants to reduce childhood poverty for example.socialismSocialism

 No.378238

>>377948
I got that brochure on my letterbox lolsocialismSocialism

 No.379116

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>>378215
> I think it is mainly because the Red Party and the Socialist Left party has made a secret agreement to tone down the idpol from a strategic viewpoint.
Seriously?

 No.379201

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>>379116
Magnus Marsdal in Manifest Tankesmie (which is a socialist think tank) said so at least in his new book. I mean even Moxnes said "It is a form of racism to believe that Norwegians can not do hard work as immigrants from Eastern Europe do in the fields." and he has been adamant in reducing the amount of worker-immigrants from EU for example.socialismSocialism

 No.379635

>>379201
Holy based.

 No.380158

Is it a coincidence that Swedish union rates take a huge decline the moment the country joins the EU?

 No.398528

>>377856
Ja, en stor del av deras grej är att de först och främst är ett fack.

 No.398639

>>380158
What do you think?

 No.398659

>>398639
The EU is a paid subscription to neoliberalism, so yes of course.4th_international4th International

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 No.398861

>>377944
>>398528
Tack.
>jag misstänker att de inte är superpeppade på att ha ML:ar som medlemmar
Det är ingen fara gissar jag. Det är enormt att de är ett proletärt, klasskämpande utifrån industriprincipen till att börja med, och att de tydligen också är facket som lyckas strejka mest just nu (de växer även).
Om de visar sig vara överrepresenterat i ideologiska anarkister (vilket jag tvekar på lite) så kan jag bara luta på Marx (vilket onekligen ändå är en hit bland en markant andel) och Hönskatapulten (i vissa områden såsom direkt-demokrati och kommunism utan att nödvändingtvis nämna honom)… De behöver inte veta min positiva syn på Lenin och Stalin, ha disputer över definition av staten, etc… Det är en fackförening, inte ett parti, trots allt. Det handlar huvudsakligen om att få in så många arbetare som möjligt in i denna organisation, i formering av ett kamporgan i deras klassintresse. Om man märker att vissa individer därefter även är lämpade för det kommunistiska partiet så får man väl ge dom en pamflett i privat, hehe.

 No.400727

>>398861
What does this say… can you use English? Every other Nord here uses English. They have the courtesy to discuss things in a common language, on the thread's given one, and it would be nice if you would include yourself to that topic.

 No.400993

>>400727
Thanks.
> I suspect that they are not super excited to have MLs as members
There is no danger, I guess. It is enormous that they are a proletarian, class-fighting based on the industrial principle to begin with, and that they are apparently also the union that is succeeding in striking the most right now (they are also growing).
If they turn out to be overrepresented in ideological anarchists (which I doubt a bit) then I can only lean on Marx (which is undeniably still a hit among a significant proportion) and the Chicken Coop (in some areas such as direct democracy and communism without necessarily mention him)… They do not need to know my positive view of Lenin and Stalin, have disputes over the definition of the state, etc… It is a trade union, not a party, after all. It is mainly a matter of getting as many workers as possible into this organization, in forming a fighting body in their class interest. If you notice that some individuals are then also suitable for the Communist Party, you must give them a pamphlet in private, hehe.

(Here you go)socialismSocialism

 No.415113

>>400727
>Every other Nord here uses English
inte jag

 No.415125

>>400727
DET BLIR ARBETSLÄGER FÖR DIG SMÅBORGARJÄVEL

 No.415128

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>>400727
>They have the courtesy to discuss things in a common language
scandinavia already has a common language: Swedish

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>>415128
>>415125
>>415113
>Kjinna kvinna blinna poopa brappa
English is the language of choice for Nords, swedejävels, especially for the newer generations. Your languages aren't even that mutually understandable but hey look, everyone here and on this board knows English, so let's use that.

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>>417820
Varför är allt på amerikanska i ditt förslag av hur en tråd för nordbor bör vara? Har du ingen självrespekt? Ingen egen kultur?

Gå och titta på hur det är i /LatAm/, /Hungern/, /Brasilien/, /Tyskland/ etc. Ingen sitter där som du och gnäller på andra för att dom inte pratar amerikanska som du gör 24/7 för ingen anledning i ditt småborgarkvarter.
Var inte ett sånt jävla hanrej och låt oss konversera hur vi vill i den här tråden din Mc*onald's tölp.stalinStalin

 No.418016

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>>417995
No idea what you said, try again sweedie.

 No.418019

>>415128
Swedes are truly the Anglos of Scandinavia.

Finns are the Irish

 No.418027

>>417820
tyst med dig jänkarjävel

 No.425045

Can any Finns describe the erosion of the national transport service VR? First the state's ownership of it was distilled, and then its monopolies on the transport sector ended, am I getting it right? Did this cause trouble between interoperability between different railway companies?

 No.425095

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>>425045
The state owns most of the tracks excluding some private spurs. In the past, VR was a state business and owned the tracks and all the facilities. It still owns significant number of station buildings and such which the state now leases. There has been scandas about VR scrapping some arguably usable roiing stock yo prevent it getting into hands of any potential 'lean routes' competitor via some og VR's old stock being moved into a 'national rail equipment bank' of sorts or being actioned off by the order of its state owner.

Anyhow, as things now stand, VR operates all of the passenger rail, most of it via contract with the provincises but the trunk routes are profitable, VR also does like 90& of the freight still but here are some rpive operators now: Fennia rail with 6 refurbished soviet locos and Operail of the Estonian government with 6 old-new Turkish Powerhauls and sone American refirbished C30s to come to augment them! Anyway, there will be monopoly on passenger traffic up until 2023, it would have never been dismantled unless EU had said so and you all know what - I think it's a good thing. Just right now VR only operates all long distance OK, but it also has deemed that all local trains excluding Helsinki are worthless. Only from 2020, from the ficking corona year there have been some trial-natured local train like services in Tampere with disgerateningly few stops and only one stop being built for the time being.

Abalysis after the ramble:
The trend with the Finnish railways will be further deregulation while the resources are meager. What little there is will be used to further the electrification (25 kV), the Helsinki-Oulu trunk route and the Helsinki - Turkuku route. As said, this will al come directly from the state budged, which is meager, and fear our next cabinet will be Coalition party led - I fear. It will be "cold ride", as we say in general, but I doubt the rails will be much affected. As things stand is a consensus thing and not politicalized. The rail monopoly will end in 2023 which means some hypothetical competitor to VRs passenger hegemony could arise in the 'lean routes' market or otherwise. Maybe they'll do express pr American style one dirction commuter kind of apptern places like Kupio, Lappeenranta or Oulu.

Is it bad, if I think that as things stand, icrease of market orientedness is generally a good thing for the Ginnish railways, exclding the untimely abandonment of some beloved rollingstock?

Pictures:
1) Tampere Local train line (Tesoma) is under construction, but shoud be finished soon
2) VR commuter carriages in disrepair, ostensibly parked for storage but the foamer conspiracy is that parked for destruction
3) Estonian Opoerail's Dr20 diesel at right, 6 in all, and Dr21 unknown (to me) number to arrive. Both are in 2 MW power range and will operate in cross border transhipment and paper mill shunting service, I know becaus they don't have their own wagons - only Fenniearail (with it's 6 refurbished soviet diesels) has some wagon stock.
4) 2x Fenniarail Dr18s 1.55 MW each pulling some rented Swedish "sea rail" wagons, which are actually permanently coupled twins, for some reasone. Now containing paper.carlismCarlism

 No.425137

>>425095
Do you have a source on the EU demanding privatization of the railways, and why do you think it's good? Is it because it degraded too much and even a market alternative would do better?

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>>425095
TRAINS

 No.425175

>>418016
>sweedie
lol

 No.425383

>>425095
>>425155
car bad
train good

 No.430903

>>425383
Detta, men oironiskt.

 No.430931

By Odin's beard!

 No.431082

Is there an aspect of Swedish neoimperialism to compulsory Swedish in Finnish schools, or is it just the diaspora keeping this policy alive? Also, is it true Sweden largely controls the Baltic financial sector?

 No.436298

jahopp, dags för leftypål att haverera och bli piss igen. vars ska man bege sig? :(

 No.436373

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>>431082
>Swedish neoimperialism to compulsory Swedish in Finnish schools
this is due to Finland having a sizeable Finnish-Swedish minority due to historical events, not present-day Swedish policy. personally I think Finnish should be an option in Swedish schools, especially in Norrbotten
>Also, is it true Sweden largely controls the Baltic financial sector?
Finnish-Swedes are the Jews of the Baltic, yes. pic related

 No.436703

>>436373
Finnish-Swedes more so than Swedes themselves? I only remember reading that Sweden swooped in to capitalize on the Baltic states' newly marketized economies in the 90s.

 No.437239

The Red Party rising to a record 7.5%!socialismSocialism

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This is the highest polling the Red Party has achieved ever and this is in the day when people can vote early. Is this a sign that the Norwegian Proletariat is finally awake?!socialismSocialism

 No.437263

>>437239
>>437255
It is not even at the expense of the SV. Where are all the new voters coming from?

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>>437263
I literally do not know where they are coming from, but it just continues to rise and rise. In my three years, I have never seen this rise before. The bourgeoise are panicking thinking that Red just might get influence in the next coalition. Some of the smears they have tried are
"Increasing the wealth tax is pure communism!"- The Conservative Party
"If the Red Party wins they will govern like Victor Orban and Donald Trump"- Neoliberal Think Tank
"The Red Party is just as bad as the Nazis"- The Conservative PartysocialismSocialism

 No.437362

>>436703
>Finnish-Swedes more so than Swedes themselves?
yes. and keep in mind Finnish-Swedes (finlandssvenskar) are distinct from Swedish-Finns (sverigefinnar)

>I only remember reading that Sweden swooped in to capitalize on the Baltic states' newly marketized economies in the 90s

quite likely. but Finland wasn't part of the USSR, even if it was hurt quite hard by the dissolution

>>437255
basert

 No.437405

>>437362
Can you elaborate on what makes Finnish Swedes more bourgeois than Swedes? Is it because Swedish settlers were people of wealth, or exploited the Finns? I heard even things like higher education in Finland is effectively segregated between Finns and Finnish Swedes.

 No.437447

>>437263
>Where are all the new voters coming from?
from Ap, FrP and V probably
http://www.pollofpolls.no/?cmd=Maling&gallupid=4399

>>437405
because Finnish-Swedes are a minority that looks after their own. they also make up a disproportionate part of the Finnish aristocracy, for historical reasons. Swedes that moved to Finland tended to be aristocrats. Finns moving to Sweden tended to be peasants engaging in slash-and-burn agriculture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn#Northern_Europe), so called svedjefinnar. when the USSR collapsed you had a similar thing but with industrial workers moving from Finland to Sweden

Swedes living in Finland are not Finnish-Swedes, but a much smaller minority. because there's a lot of people moving over the Baltic you get a lot of terms for these groups. in Swedish:
svenskar - Swedes
finnar - Finns
finlandssvenskar - Finnish-Swedes
sverigefinnar - Swedish-Finns
sverigefinlandssvenskar - Finnish-Swedes living in Sweden
finlandssverigefinnar - Swedish-Finns living in Finland

 No.437505

>>400727
just use google translate like the rest of us lmao it's a nordic threadlenin_capLenin Cap

 No.437512

>>437263
maybe Ap voters go to SV and SV voters go to Rodt?lenin_capLenin Cap

 No.437519

>>437505
DeepL is vastly superior

 No.437538

>>437519
>>437519
ah didn't know about it thankslenin_capLenin Cap

 No.437583

>>437505
>>437538
Translating is a hassle that most people aren't bothering with, which effectively limits the conversation to just a few people. It seems everyone but some Swedish people here use English, which facilitates communication amongst ourselves.

 No.437603

>>437512
Dissapointed AP voters just go straight to Red as Red is much less on idpol and environmentalism then SV. Who is much more of Labour Aristocratic party. To oversimplify it a bit.socialismSocialism

 No.437669

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In the Finnish civil war of 1918 the WHOLE LEADERSHIP of the White Army were Swedish speaking Swedo-Finns (finlandssvensk). Many Swedo-Finnish workers joined the Red Guard though.

 No.437753

för helvete, ytterliggare en domänstrid
när tar vaktisdramat slut?

 No.438306

V klättrar till fjärde största parti enligt Demoskops nyaste opinionsundersökning.

S 24,6%
M 23,2%
SD 19,9%
V 10,2%
C 10,1%
KD 5,4%
MP 3,5%
L 2,3%

 No.438358

>>437292
I suspect it may be people who like us but see Red as a wasted vote due to being below 4%. Now that the polls are showing consistently above the limit, those people feel secure in voting for us.

 No.438412

>>353325
Det här vill jag också veta

 No.438536

>>438358
That could be the case. I do remember that Moxnes mentioned the main reason people did not know was because of that reason you mentioned.
>>438306
Is the Swedish Left finally getting its feet together??

Also is there any interest in a Norwegian Election Thread soon? I can give some live updates that would be very interesting.socialismSocialism

 No.438561

>>438536
Start it when you feel there's enpugh interesting things happening, though the results are still more than a month away.

 No.438564

>>438536
Best to keep it within the general

 No.438700

>>438306
>V > C
kännsbramannen

>>438536
>Also is there any interest in a Norwegian Election Thread soon?
dew it

 No.440782

File: 1628750933509.png (315.32 KB, 519x488, ClipboardImage.png)

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/28vmMG/roedt-skifter-maktstrategi-vil-ha-sv-allianse-for-aa-presse-ap-og-sp

This is very interesting. Red tried to get a left wing oppositional front with SV and SV declined. While SV invited Red to go into the Red-Green coalition
Obviously Red will decline (or has already declined?)
However the X-factor is that SV will for the first time allow its members to decide if it goes into a coalition or not (after the election).
However this means that the SV leadership has clearly chosen to go with the neoliberals (AP and SP) rather then the socialists (Red Party).socialismSocialism

 No.440844

>>440782
Idk man sounds like SV and R are in a love hate relationship with each other with narcissism of small differences.

 No.440871

File: 1628755994048.png (536.35 KB, 650x366, ClipboardImage.png)

>>440844
Not really. Most people who like Red like SV and vice versa. I think it is rather a difference in strategy instead here, but I am sure if SV gets kicked to the curb by SP, they will work with RedsocialismSocialism

 No.441365

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This is a "Super-Poll" by NRK (Norwegian BBC), meaning that unlike other polls which ask 1000 people as their sample size, these ones around 10 000 people. Leading into much more accurate numbers. Luckly the Red Party is still above the threshold although it has sunken a little bit since the summersocialismSocialism

 No.442905

>>329778
Еивэт нэуттаиси осааван.left_communismLeft Communism

 No.442938

Harbin någon koll på hur det faktiskt var med de apatiska barnen?

 No.442954

>>442938
två av fallen har uppdagats vara simulanter. SVT har ett reportage:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/granskning-lyfter-ny-debatt-om-apatiska-flyktingbarn
men 150 barn på 3 år gör det till en icke-fråga

 No.443968

File: 1628894740435.jpg (137.46 KB, 400x529, kfmlr-mot-den.jpg)

Förvandla hela samhället till en enda stor fabrik som producerar välstånd och borgarlik!

 No.444173

bbump

 No.447819

Watching NRK's "Fuckload of Questions" where they interview every party leader. FrP's leader Sylvi Listhaug is about what I expected.
>Who's your political role model?
<I've always liked Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.
>Fox News or NRK?
<Fox News.
>If you could invite anyone you want for dinner, who would it be?
<Maybe Biden, to hear his thoughts.
>Train or highway?
<Highway.

https://tv.nrk.no/serie/sjukt-mange-spoersmaal/sesong/1/episode/6/avspiller

 No.449811

SPLITTRINGEN VAR EN BRA SAK

 No.449824

>>449811
VI HANDLADE SOM KOMMUNISTER SKALL GÖRA DÅ KLASSKAMPEN SKÄRPS!

 No.450260

https://e24.no/naeringsliv/i/jB4mGn/ssb-forsker-utleieinvestorer-har-soerget-for-betydelig-hoeyere-boligpriser

Economic model demonstrates rentals drive up housing prices,as if that wasn't already obvious. Bourgeois economists are all supply this, demand that until you point out maybe allowing hoarding of housing supply isn't a good idea.

 No.454603

ALLIANSFRITT SVEALAND!

 No.457406

Nordbros holding a pro-Cuba demonstration in Oslo on Tuesday. Wish I could be there but I'm busy.
https://www.facebook.com/events/961133911408468/

 No.457412

>>457406
Is Red and SV Party gonna be there?

 No.457473

>>457412
Red will be there, dunno about SV.

 No.463894

The March of the Red Guard. Kaikki kunnia kaatuneille tovereille!

 No.463901

>>463894
Btw why is Finland the only Nordic country with a Communist rebellion but rest of Nordics are cuck dems that we established as well after civil war?

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 No.465177

>>463901
Good question, I think a large part had to do with the fact that Finland was part of the Russian Empire prior to the Revolution. It is a crime how the proud Reds are remembered today…
Pieni Suomen kansa katkoo kahleitansa!
==Eläköön punakaarti!

 No.468401

File: 1630295007430-0.png (1.35 MB, 640x853, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1630295007430-1.png (558.02 KB, 640x480, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1630295007430-2.png (1.44 MB, 640x853, ClipboardImage.png)

Malmökamraterna levererar.

 No.468559

>>468401
>attentat mot personlig egendom
>detta kommer att få arbetarklassen på vår sida
det här är inte grejen chefen

 No.468684

>>468401
I'm not saying this was definitely feds but it's something I'd do if I was a fed trying to discredit the climate movement.

 No.468688

>>468401
Pretty based. I once threw a breezeblock through the back window of some cunt's Range Rover. Though that was because of his pro-hunting stickers rather than the climate specifically.

 No.468691

>>468688
>that was because of his pro-hunting stickers
wildlife care is socially necessary anon. typical city dweller behavior

 No.468692

>>468691
Haha. Alright. It's the hunters that wiped out all the predators in the first place.

 No.468703

>>468691
How is hunting wildlife care?

 No.468733

Vad händer med alla kaosautister när välfärdsstaten brister?

 No.468738

>>468688
Detta är bete

 No.468742

>>468738
No sir. TRUE and HONEST.

 No.469061

not socialist but thought i'd post this short note

https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/iceland-workweek-working-week-shorter-hours-trials-research-alda-autonomy-study

35 hour work week with no reduction in wages led to happier workers and no reduction in performance in trials of >1% of the Icelandik population.
>the trials encompassed not only offices but also playschools, city maintenance facilities, care homes for people with various disabilities and special needs, and beyond. The Reykjavík City mayor’s office was included as well.

 No.469298

>>468692
found the nollåtta

>>468703
do you know what happens whenever wildlife populations soar? especially after dry summers? they die. feel free to compare to Australia's wild horse problem

 No.469377

>>469298
What do you think happened before humans came along to 'fix' the ecosystem? Was everything just broken all the time?

 No.469400

File: 1630362655842-0.jpg (2.55 MB, 3072x4096, forsvargonz1.jpg)

File: 1630362655842-1.jpg (70.19 KB, 1024x682, forsvargonz2.jpg)

Defend the life of Chairman Gonzalo! From Denmark :)

 No.469423

>>469377
if you have a problem with humans changing their environment to suit human wants and needs then why are you even here? please neck yourself

 No.469777

>>469298
>especially after dry summers? they die.
Big if true.

 No.469878

>>469423
Hunting doesn't fit human needs though, it only suits a tiny minority of faggots that continue to fuck up the environment for everyone else.

 No.469893

>>469878
>what is arboriculture?

 No.470328

>>469377
There was a lot of death.

 No.470417

>>469377
>Was everything just broken all the time?
Yes.

 No.471558

How is the Icelandic election going?

 No.471753

>>471558
Follow-up: do we even have one Icelandic anon here?

 No.472275

>>471753
We had one Greenlander on 8chan.

 No.473224

File: 1630559377858.png (324.92 KB, 1080x1079, Its crapitalism.png)

>>468401
<Climate change mostly caused by big corporations
>Radlibs: "Kill the SUVs!"
Brainwormed

 No.473248

>>468401
This is retarded as fuck.
1) the making of a car tire (vulcanized rubber) expends a massive amount of oil.
2) tires that are punctured are often left to rot in landfills further contaminating the atmosphere and land.

So yeah, good job you cunts.

 No.473280

>>473248
I think the point is that they don’t want oil to be converted to the tire. And also slashed tires and used tires still pollute the environment either way so your second point is moot.

 No.473306

>>473224
What can you expect more from radlibs? They have room temperature autism score.

 No.473311

>>468401
>You blame SUVs are the cause of climate change
>Doesn't realize that motorcycles are the main cause
How retarded 1st Worlders are. That's what excess cuntpitalism does to a mf.

 No.473313

>>473224
pretty much every company on that list is an oil company or a mining company.
hope you're keen to pedal your shit car to work.

 No.473324

>>473313
I already have been using bicycle and public transport for years. I don't miss the stress of using cars with their endless traffic jams and braindead drivers.

 No.473328

>>473313
of course the fucking succdem thinks the only option is cars

 No.473334

>>473328
perhaps there's some kind of language barrier hiding my subtle point: quite literally all cars and all vestiges of car culture should be destroyed or condemned to the victims of capitalism history museum.

 No.473456

>>468559
>>468684
>>473224
>>473248
>>473306
pearl clutching liberals, no you won't get to keep your fucking SUV in the coming survival communism
>>473334
based bizarro-socdem

 No.473463

>>473334
>quite literally all cars and all vestiges of car culture should be destroyed
found the metropolitan. we can and should expand public transport, but don't pretend people in rural areas will be able to live without cars any time soon. a lot of this shit comes down to the kind of solutions that plop out of the planning equations

>>473456
SUVs aren't the problem, idiot. it's the mode of production that's the problem. we cannot know a priori what place bigger cars have in an eco-socialist economy

 No.473464

>>473463
>we cannot know a priori what place bigger cars have in an eco-socialist economy
haha

 No.473467

>>473464
>he thinks cars with powerful engines, high ground clearance and four wheel drive are useful tools?
>what an idiot lol
absolutely utopian

 No.473471

File: 1630578921923-0.png (910.5 KB, 1080x1949, Holy shit.png)

>>473456
>no you won't get to keep your fucking SUV in the coming survival communism
Never had one anyway. SUVs are bad, but there are much much bigger polluters out there.

 No.473514

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>>473463
>don't pretend people in rural areas will be able to live without cars any time soon
oh, so the car vandalism happened in a rural area did it?

 No.473560

>>473514
hmm, I guess it didn't

 No.473582

SUVs are fucking dumb to have anyway. How are you people still talking about this?

 No.473584

>>473582
a lot of small SUVs are just as fuel efficient as your average sedan now, just saying. i prefer public transport, however.

 No.473589

>>473582
Yeah they are, but vandalizing personal property isn't a good loo.

 No.473717

>lol you can't blame cars, look at these big companies!
>those big companies polute to run your car
>lol I don't even use a car
retards

 No.473842

>>473717
nordicks aren't good with dialectics desu
you could even say that we're honorary anglos

 No.473846

>>473334
>>473313
Inbred retard believes gasoline and tires are the main byproducts of oil refining

Classic illiterate succdem

 No.473847

>>473717
What is the percentage of carbon emissions caused by cars again?

That right, you don't know, you are just a grifter

 No.474481

>>473846
the only oil products allowed under socialism will be olive oil for the italians and a big cauldron of oil in which you will be boiled alive for your presumptuousness.
(and then given to the italians)

 No.475652

File: 1630680186965.png (78.77 KB, 302x320, stockholm.png)

Någon kamrat i Stockholmstrakten som har tråkigt?

 No.475655

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 No.475660

>>306275
>Oh, and you always get pickled white cabbage on the side to your pizza
BASED

 No.475771

>>475652
Danmark var ett misstag.

 No.476116

>>475652
Hände något?
Breven i tråden fick mig för övrigt att läsa på lite om clownen i fråga… han har tydligen verifierbara hjärnskador sedan en trafikolycka i vuxen ålder, vilka påverkar hans beteende. Tragiskt.

 No.476378

>>476116
Har inte hört något än, fick infon hastigast från en annan kamrat så tänkte att jag skulle dela här. Om någon får reda på någonting så får ni gärna skriva det här i tråden.

 No.476465

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 No.476560

Lmao ABBA is getting back together. Hope they made good music.

 No.476900

>>476465
>let's provoke people in the suburbs by tearing up a koran
>oh no we're being confronted how could this happen?
>run away!
den evige dansken

 No.476966

>>476465
Tack för delning kamrat.
>>476560
To quote the immortal sillstryparen: they don't give a fuck about anything, they just want to make quick money.

 No.478895

Please post the DPRK moomins picture QUICKLY I need it thx finn/swedebros

 No.479506

File: 1630921772596.png (415.29 KB, 1400x980, 1630920160785.png)

So what's the modern finnish view on the winter war?
do mainstream conservatives have some funny ideas about it?

 No.479566

>>479506
did you by chance see the /his/ thread I made earlier today that's still going?

 No.481603

>>472275
Greenland is part of Denmark, not Iceland.

 No.481676

>>481642
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LOUIS PROTESTS 2017 年圣路易斯抗议活动 NUCLEAR TESTING BIKINI ATOLL 比基尼环礁的核试验 UNITE THE RIGHT RALLY 团结右集会 CHARLOTTE PROTESTS 夏洛特暴动 ATTACK ON SUI-HO DAM 袭击穗河水坝 MILWAUKEE PROTESTS 密尔沃基骚乱 Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 奥尔顿·斯特林和菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚的射击 Occupation of the Malheur NationalWildlife Refuge Malheur国家野生动物保护区的占领 death of Freddie Gray 弗雷迪·格雷的死 Shooting of Michael Brown迈克尔·布朗的拍摄 death of Eric Garner, Oakland California 奥克兰奥克兰市埃里克·加纳(Eric Garner)逝世 Operation Condor 神鹰行动 Occupy WallStreet 占领华尔街 My Lai Massacre 我的大屠杀 St. Petersburg, Florida 佛罗里达州圣彼得堡 Kandahar Massacre 坎大哈屠杀 1992Washington Heights riots 1992年华盛顿高地暴动 No Gun Ri Massacre 无枪杀案 L.A. Rodney King riots 洛杉矶罗德尼·金暴动 1979 Greensboro Massacre 1979年格林斯伯勒大屠杀 Vietnam War 越南战争 Kent State shootings肯特州枪击案 Bombing of Tokyo 轰炸东京 San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing 旧金山警察局公园站爆炸案 Assassination of MartinLuther King, Jr. 小马丁·路德·金遭暗杀。 Long Hot Summer of 1967 1967年炎热的夏天 Bagram 巴格拉姆 Selma to Montgomery marches 塞尔玛到蒙哥马利游行 Highway of Death 死亡之路 Ax Handle Saturday 星期六斧头 Battle of Evarts 埃瓦茨战役 Battle ofBlair Mountain 布莱尔山战役 McCarthyism 麦卡锡主义 Red Summer 红色夏天 Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀 Pottawatomie massacre 盆大屠杀 Jeju uprising 济州起义 Colfaxmassacre 科尔法克斯大屠杀 Reading Railroad massacre 阅读铁路大屠杀 Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀 Bay viewMassacre 湾景大屠杀 Lattimer massacre 拉蒂默大屠杀 Ludlow massacre 拉德洛屠杀 Everett massacre 埃弗里特屠杀Centralia Massacre 中部大屠杀 Ocoee massacre Ocoee大屠杀 Herrin Massacre 赫林大屠杀 Redwood Massacre红木大屠杀 Columbine Mine Massacre 哥伦拜恩矿难 Guantanamo Bay 关塔那摩湾 extraordinary rendition 非凡的演绎 Abu Ghraib torture and prison abuse 阿布格莱布的酷刑和监狱虐待 Henry Kissinger 亨利·基辛格 TIMBER SYCAMORE DANNY CHEN PROJECT ICEWORM CHINESE EXLCUSION ACT BIKINI ATOLL GUANO ACT LOVE CANAL JIM JONES PEOPLE'S TEMPEL PARENT'S CHOICE HEAVY METALS OPERATION BROTHER SAM 2021 TEXAS BLACKOUTNSA MASS SURVEILLANCE KENT STATE KENT STATE UNI CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY DAVID MISCAVIGE 佔領華爾街 MAY 4 1970 MASSACRE 肯特州立大学枪击事件 MAY 13 1985 MOVE BOMBING「MOVE」組織轰炸 RED SUMMER 1919 HOUSE UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE 众议院非美活动调查委员会 TRAIL OF TEARS 美国本地人种族灭绝 JIM CROW SEGREGATION 吉姆·克勞法 HUMAN RIGHTS 人權 CITIZENS UNITED 联合公民诉联邦选举委员会案 SAFETY 安全 HIGH SPEED RAIL 人民共和国高速铁路 STRONG MASS LINE 群众路线 REPUBLIC OF HAWAII 夏威夷共和国 THIRTEEN COLONIES 十三殖民地 VIETNAM AFGHANISTAN IRAQ 伊拉克 EDWARD SNOWDEN 爱德华·斯诺登 SCIENTOLOGY 山達基教會 GUANTANAMO BAY DETENTION CAMP 关塔那摩湾拘押中心 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE 諾貝爾和平獎 BARACK OBAMA 贝拉克·奥巴马 COMMUNISM SOLIDARITY LABOUR ACTION ANTI-CAPITALIST PRO-REVOLUTION PROTEST MOVEMENT ANTIFA RIOT POLICE BRUTAILITY POLICE OCCUPATION PAID SUSPENSION LEFTIST COUNTER PROTEST CHARLES MANSON MANSON FAMILY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BORDER CONCENTRATION CAMPS MKULTRA ASSASINATE FRED HAMPTON JANE FONDA EUGENE DEBS MALCOLM X EAT THE RICH THE CRUMBLING OF AMERICA REAGANOMICS INFOWARS MANUFACTURING CONSENT FASCIST OLIGARCHY FBI HONEYPOT NSA SPYING ICE DEPORTATIONS WAR ON DRUGS PRISON SLAVERY CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE ENHANCED INTERROGATION SCIENCE OF IDENTITY FOUNDATION MY LAI PRISON RAPE DEPORTATION MS13 PIZZAGATE LOLIHENTAI PURCHASING KINDER EGG LOTTERY OPERATION SEA SPRAY PATRIOT ACT AMWAY 21 SAVAGE 奇多贝尼托 SCOTT WARREN NET NEUTRALITY LOVEINT EGLIN AIRFORCE BASE COINTELPRO OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD OPERATION EARNEST VOICE OPERATION AURORAGOLD 1999 BELGRADE EMBASSY BOMBING IRAN AIR FLIGHT 655 QASEM SOLEIMANI JEFFREY EPSTEIN MASS PEDOPHILIA ABROAD AND DOMESTIC OPERATION SNOW WHITE HARVEY WEINSTEIN OPERATION CONDOR AARON SWARTZ WACO SIEGE RUBY RIDGE SIEGE 1998 CAVALESE CABLE CAR DISASTER PROJECT ELDEST SON GUNS FOR ANTIGUA GARY WEBB FREE BURMA RANGERS STRONGHOLD RESCUE & RELIEF MCNAMARA'S MORONS PROJECT APPLE PROJECT MIRROR PROJECT WITCH GEORGE PELL ACQUITTAL FORT DETRICK KILLING OF HUEY LONG BLAIR MOUNTAIN ERIC HARROUN MIRACLE VALLEY JINGMING BUILDING INCIDENT YANGJU HIGHWAY INCIDENT 16754432 JAPANESE WARCRIMES OPERATION ASIAN TOUCH OPERATION FREEDOM DEAL CHILEAN COUP D'ETAT TULSA MASSACRE MERE GOOK RULE MORO CRATER CUBANA FLIGHT 455 OPIOID EPIDEMIC SACKLER FAMILY JADE HELM 15 NO GUN RI RYAN WHITAKER PROJECT SUNSHINE WECH BAGHTU DASANI FAKE WATER ICE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ICE HYSTERECTOMIES OPERATION MIDNIGHT CLIMAX OPERATION MONGOOSE JULIAN ASSANGE EMMETT TILL ANDRE VITCHEK NIKOLA MOTORS FORT HOOD MISSING SOLDIERS AGRICULTURAL ABCD AARON SWARTZ KENTUCKY POLICE HITLER RUSHAN ABBAS GITMO US MILITARY BUYS APP DATA ELAINE MASSACRE LITTLE HIROSHIMA LYSOL INJECTION US RACTOPAMINE MEAT PIKETON WASTE BONUS ARMY DANNY CHEN NORTH DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE PROTESTS 北达科他州接入管道抗议 FERGUSON PROTESTS 弗格森暴动 ST. LOUIS PROTESTS 2017 年圣路易斯抗议活动 NUCLEAR TESTING BIKINI ATOLL 比基尼环礁的核试验 UNITE THE RIGHT RALLY 团结右集会 CHARLOTTE PROTESTS 夏洛特暴动 ATTACK ON SUI-HO DAM 袭击穗河水坝 MILWAUKEE PROTESTS 密尔沃基骚乱 Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 奥尔顿·斯特林和菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚的射击 Occupation of the Malheur NationalWildlife Refuge Malheur国家野生动物保护区的占领 death of Freddie Gray 弗雷迪·格雷的死 Shooting of Michael Brown迈克尔·布朗的拍摄 death of Eric Garner, Oakland California 奥克兰奥克兰市埃里克·加纳(Eric Garner)逝世 Operation Condor 神鹰行动 Occupy WallStreet 占领华尔街 My Lai Massacre 我的大屠杀 St. Petersburg, Florida 佛罗里达州圣彼得堡 Kandahar Massacre 坎大哈屠杀 1992Washington Heights riots 1992年华盛顿高地暴动 No Gun Ri Massacre 无枪杀案 L.A. Rodney King riots 洛杉矶罗德尼·金暴动 1979 Greensboro Massacre 1979年格林斯伯勒大屠杀 Vietnam War 越南战争 Kent State shootings肯特州枪击案 Bombing of Tokyo 轰炸东京 San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing 旧金山警察局公园站爆炸案 Assassination of MartinLuther King, Jr. 小马丁·路德·金遭暗杀。 Long Hot Summer of 1967 1967年炎热的夏天 Bagram 巴格拉姆 Selma to Montgomery marches 塞尔玛到蒙哥马利游行 Highway of Death 死亡之路 Ax Handle Saturday 星期六斧头 Battle of Evarts 埃瓦茨战役 Battle ofBlair Mountain 布莱尔山战役 McCarthyism 麦卡锡主义 Red Summer 红色夏天 Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀 Pottawatomie massacre 盆大屠杀 Jeju uprising 济州起义 Colfaxmassacre 科尔法克斯大屠杀 Reading Railroad massacre 阅读铁路大屠杀 Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀 Bay viewMassacre 湾景大屠杀 Lattimer massacre 拉蒂默大屠杀 Ludlow massacre 拉德洛屠杀 Everett massacre 埃弗里特屠杀Centralia Massacre 中部大屠杀 Ocoee massacre Ocoee大屠杀 Herrin Massacre 赫林大屠杀 Redwood Massacre红木大屠杀 Columbine Mine Massacre 哥伦拜恩矿难 Guantanamo Bay 关塔那摩湾 extraordinary rendition 非凡的演绎 Abu Ghraib torture and prison abuse 阿布格莱布的酷刑和监狱虐待 Henry Kissinger 亨利·基辛格 TIMBER SYCAMORE PROJECT ICEWORM CHINESE EXLCUSION ACT BIKINI ATOLL GUANO ACT LOVE CANAL JIM JONES PEOPLE'S TEMPLE PARENT'S CHOICE HEAVY METALS OPERATION BROTHER SAM 2021 TEXAS BLACKOUT SCIENCE OF IDENTITY FOUNDATION

 No.481721

>>481706
>RENT FREE
<I AM A RETARD
AS ALWAYS, DEATH TO AMERICA.

 No.482278

>>481676
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE
IT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNING

 No.482321

>>481676
BASERAT

 No.483021

Vad tycker ni om Sveriges Kommunistiska Parti?

 No.483056

>>483021
fikar hos dem då och då. de hade nåt stort drama för typ två år sen

 No.483613

Näver forget

 No.483911

>>483056
K hade ju någon split med några invandringstritiska medlemmar. Har SKP också haft drama nyligen?

 No.488005

>>483911
aha K och SKP är inte samma parti. var K jag menade

 No.490516

>>469061
How come people don't get more done with more time? Don't they have quotas or calls they have to take or something?

 No.491193

kritiskt stöd för tyskland mot fransk och britisk imperialism

 No.491269

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Why do Nordic chinlets obsess over the cross and just make recolours of it?

 No.491283

>>491269
Beats tricolours

 No.491287

>>491283
You shut your whore mouth.

 No.491379

>>491269
>Another serious blow was a very high percentage of people who stated that they were religious. 55.3 million, or 56.7%, of those who provided answers stated that they were religious (the question was asked only of people older than 16-years old), 42.2 million stated that they were atheists, and around 1 million refused to give an answer. Historian Valentina Zhiromskaya stated that people expected to be persecuted if they declared themselves as belonging to a religion, but considered the answer to be important: If many people would say that they are religious, the authorities would have to open the churches, was a common attitude.[5] The Soviet authorities were so upset by the results of the census that they did not include a question on religion in any future censuses

 No.491702

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Asker is based Egoist??

 No.492001

>>491702
spooky

 No.496979

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 No.497047

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 No.497217

How is the Icelandic election going? The Socialist Party there seems based.

 No.497511

>>496979
One is not en sann revolutionär until man blir stoppad av en mörkblå Volvo V70 med två slipsklädda herrar från Författningsskyddet som vill tala med dig om hur farligt extremism är.

 No.498020

Finns det ett riktigt vänsterligt bemötande av boken genusdoktrinen?
Eller kritik av samma institutioner men från vänsterns synvinkel

 No.498023

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 No.498036

>>259933
Äh, det är bara internetkäbbel, men ja kasta ut snubben helt klart. Att fucka upp något Kakabaveh style är inte riktigt samma grej som att dilla med den där typen av efterblivenhet i 20 år.
Snubben kan ju testa. Den som ens rör Rasmus kolar troligen . . .

 No.498041

>>496979
Tror du på allvar att du gör någon skillnad när du tomtar runt bland afa?
Det är på samma nivå som världsåskådningsmarxisterna.

Börja producera ny extremt seriös kritik, eller assistera folk som gör detta efter bästa förmåga om du vill se till att något händer. Det är vad Engels gjorde. Det gick halvbra. Men något hände.

>>497511
Detta.

 No.498042

>>483613
"Demokratiskt vald" GG statens statens skenrepresentant för "vänstern"

Statsvetenskap 1?

 No.498043

>>481676
Extremt grundat uttalande.

 No.498048


 No.498427

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>>498041
Slut käften och sluta ta skitpostande så personligt, jävla veckoslutsakademiker.

>>497511
Precis! Just så!

 No.498777

sådan är kapitalismen
otack är den armes lön
det är de rikas paradis men
ingen hör en fattigs bön!

 No.499083

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VIF i frid Hanif, en soldat har fallit men kriget mot PK och svensk avundsjukekommunism fortgår. Eller är det för sent att räkna ut honom? Har han kanske rentav en strålande framtid som Anders Bard-akolyt framför sig?

>>498777
Trevlig triplett & skönt nytt skivomslag

 No.499282

>>499083
hela Sveriges husbabbe

 No.507742

Vad tror ni om att Liberalernas nya immigrationsminister fick avgå som kulturminister i chile för att han påstod ett museum över pinochets brott förfalskade historien?

 No.507813

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>>507742
ännu en kandidat till ofrivillig speleologikurs

 No.507923

SPEAK ENGLISH YOU ARROGANT ASSHOLES

 No.507928

>>507923
(Swedish accent) Tey tönt tich os engliska in der skoole veri güüd :DDDD

 No.507939

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Next saturday (September 25th) neo-nazis, fascists and other racist right wing lunatics will hold a anti-immigrant demonstration in Helsinki called "Wake up Finland". It's organized by the Soldiers of Odin and other openly fascist groups.

Anti-racists have declared a counter-demonstration called "LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND". Communists and other militant anti-fascists are going to join it. It will probably be a peaceful event but I still hope the nazis get their asses kicked badly.

 No.508029

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>>507923
Försök tvinga oss

 No.508036

>>507939
So will there be a massive police escort to keep the fash relatively safe?
also
>Soldiers of Odin
I thought those clowns had given up by now, but I guess they're slow learners eh?

 No.508053

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>>507923
alliansfritt sverige jänkarjävel

 No.508063

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>>507923
käften jänkare

 No.508068

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>>508036
>So will there be a massive police escort to keep the fash relatively safe?
Most likely. Police is very zealous and pro-active when it comes to securing fascist demos from antifascists.

>I thought those clowns had given up by now, but I guess they're slow learners eh?

SOO still exists but they don't do much "street patrols" or activism anymore. They are mostly a drinking club for neo-nazis who go to some demo once a year.

 No.508075


 No.508121

Hey swedebros, is there a left equivalent for huha antifa? And why are there so many fash songs in your language?

 No.508202

>>508121
>And why are there so many fash songs in your language
got some examples?

 No.508232

>>508121
>huha antifa
what, you mean AFA?

 No.508603

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>>508121
The main organization active today is probably AFA (Antifascistisk aktion), founded during the anti-fascist struggles of the early 1990s. You also have the syndicalist youth organization SUF, it too originates from that period. Then there are newer organizations which I am not too familiar with, like SAF/GAF (Stockholms/Göteborgs Antifascistiska Front). And of course various aggregate organizations and smaller local groups.

Over the years the scene has changed and organizations have come and gone. Previously you had orgs like AFS (Antifascistiska Skinheads), Kommando Anton Nilsson, Tomtekommandot, and RF/Revfront (Revolutionära fronten) to name just a few. Revfront was particularly notorious due to their liberal application of violence.

 No.508620

>>508068
Is NMR/Vastarintaliike still around?

 No.509829

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SKP håller en grundkurs i kommunism, kan rekommendera den för folk som är nya till socialism och speciellt marxism. Jag gick den när jag började röra mig bort från högerbliveriet, och den fick mig att bättre förstå vad marxism och leninism faktiskt innebär.

Man läser en kort text i veckan, tillsammans med en föreläsning som hålls på zoom.

Om någon av er eller någon ni känner skulle kunna vara intresserade är ni varmt välkommna!

 No.509958

>>509829
coolt. jag vet att K brukar köra grundkurser också, skadar inte att fler grupperingar kör på

 No.510209

I heard Sweden largely controls the finance sector of the Baltic countries. Can someone elaborate on the details and history?

 No.510282

>>510209
*Finnish-Swedes
but yes. they are the jews of the Baltic

 No.510309

>>510282
Any details or reading material? Also I thought Swedes themselves took over the finance of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

 No.510322

>>510309
not sure about reading material but the quintessential finnish-swede is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rn_Wahlroos
some finnish comrades I know made this Wahlroos themed C64 demo a bunch of years ago: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=OXoPpOXVrfc
by contrast Swedish-Finns tend to be working class

 No.510441

File: 1632509919591.png (64.04 KB, 1684x824, ClipboardImage.png)

Obligatorisk.

 No.510799

File: 1632519539836.png (808.42 KB, 495x738, the swede.png)

>>510441
baserat och swänskpillrat

 No.510819

>>507928
🤔🤔🤔

 No.510831

>>510819
Act like it then 😊

 No.510841

>>510831
Oh nah I’m not Nordic, I was asking spurdo.

 No.510853

File: 1632520681435.png (314.38 KB, 800x800, amerifat.png)

>>510841
om du gnäller om att vi ska tala engelsk så du int'

 No.510859

>>510853
Speak English or else I will shoplift from Ikea.

 No.510999

Can someone here tell me what went wrong with Winter War?

 No.511003

File: 1632524493428.png (63.01 KB, 750x470, ClipboardImage.png)

>>510853
I wasn’t “whining” retard, literally just asking spurdo out of curiosity.

 No.511105

Svenskar e bögar men ni har SAAB aeroplanes that are shit but better than nothing. See you in volunteer brigades! My father learned Finnish in the nylands brigade because all the commands are in Finnish.
PS. Its better to defend your land outside national boundaries to prevent civilian casualties. We dont have that luxury.
PPS. SKP strongly recommends communist presence in the military and frown upon pacifist hippies.

 No.512996

>>510999
turns out blitzkriegs doesn't work in sparsely populated woods

 No.513068

>>510831
dra din gamla engelska i röven :-DDD

 No.513079

File: 1632607071883.png (117.84 KB, 400x116, ClipboardImage.png)

>>510859
It's spelled IKEA (Ingvar Kamprad Elmtaryd Agunnaryd) and it's a multinational corporation so of course you should shoplift from there.

Fun factoid: the founder was an organized nazi!

 No.513119

>>513079
Another fun fact: IKEA is legally a non-profit and is headquartered in the Netherlands because the owners hate taxes.

 No.513757

>>497217
Looks like they aren't going to get into parliament.

 No.513839

hur avkoliniserar vi lappland?

 No.513848

File: 1632656023731.jpg (511.03 KB, 914x721, sieg fail.jpg)

>>508620
Yes, but don't use the name NMR in public. They have all these front groups with different names. They have a news/media-website where they are pushing heavily for the new Lapua-style "Sinimusta" fascist party that is trying to get registered as official party. Many NMR-members are now members of the "Sinimusta" crigelords.

 No.513901

>>513848
Their smile and optimism: gone. Very good.
Can I ask what the image text says?

 No.513906

>>513901
Neonazis from the Nordic Resistance Movement attacked antifascists in Göteborg. Here's the result.

 No.513907

>>513901
Text says: "NMR neo-nazis attacked antifascists in Göteborg. This is the result."

This was few years back. Both of these losers are Finnish but they traveled to Sweden to get their asses kicked.

 No.513914

>>510999
Sure. It take's a shit load of commies to take over a country and still they fail if there's righteous and brave people fighting back.

 No.513922

File: 1632660258371.jpg (99.2 KB, 1600x900, nalle.jpg)

>>510209
>>510282
>>510309
This motherfucker right here. He's the arch-porky of the Baltics and Scandinavia. He's a Finnish-Swedish investment banker called Björn "Teddy Bear" Wahlroos. That shit-eating grin is frozen on his face because he owns more property than you could ever wrap your puny little mind around. He even owns you. In his youth he was a Stalinist of the most radical ilk when it suited him. Then he grew up and went into finance, like his degenerate alcoholic father who was the chief of staff in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce in the 70's.

An investigative economics journalist wrote a book about him together with journo-students some years back, but I doubt there's an English version.

 No.513930

>>507939
So how did it go?

 No.513961

File: 1632661856656.mp4 (2.94 MB, 720x1280, mielenosoitus.mp4)

>>513930
Not much happened. Nazis gathered and made some cirngy speeches. Counter-demonstrators made noise and shouted slogans against them. Small group of Communists with hammer & sickle flags were the most loud and active. All the noise really ruined the nazi gathering but there was no fighting. Couple of people (anti-fascists I think) got arrested.

 No.513965

>>513922
But does he have a catchy song about himself?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-EEZxIDLmc

 No.514051

>>513922
to add to this, nalle wants to privatize the Baltic Sea, and other such deranged randian ideas

 No.514133

Hi /nordpol/, would you like this thread to be cyclic, or keep making new threads when they are full?

 No.514223

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>>514133
Cyclic please.

 No.514318

>>514133
cyclic works for me

 No.514325

>>513922
What's the book's name? It's worth knowing at least for the people who know the language or are willing to translate.
>>514133
Cyclic

 No.514328

>>511105
Absolut bisarrt att se detta när man en gång i tiden skrivit NylBrs beväringsinfo

 No.514334

>>511105
Absolut bisarrt att se detta när man en gång i tiden skrivit NylBrs beväringsinfo>>514330
Absolutely bizarre seeing this as someone who has written Nylands Brigads beväringsinfo. Also not a swede.

 No.514358

File: 1632676857415.png (2.09 MB, 1200x1298, ClipboardImage.png)

>>514330
Passar inte bysorna så är det inte nödvändigtvis käringens fel!

 No.514359

>>514330
For context, Nylands Brigad is a Swedish-speaking Finnish elite regimen.
This comrade >>514334 is a certified badass

 No.514438

>>514358
no selfies please

 No.518832

Why have social democrats dominated Swedish politics for over a hundred years? I assume they've presided over some right-wing stuff despite being a centre-left party - can Swedes elaborate on this? And for other Nords, how are the soc-dems in your country? Are they complete bourgeois parties with no merits?

 No.522740

Varifrån kommer alla dessa vapen och bomber egentligen? Där jag växte upp har det också tydligen sprängts, två våningar under min barndomslägenhet. Jag bor inte i Sverige sedan flera år tillbaka, och det är svårt att få insyn utan sensationalism, men jag minns inte den nivå av våld som man hör om idag. Varför tror ni att det är så annorlunda idag? Kan man säga att det är ett uttryck av den nyliberala samhällsförvandlingen, eller hur tänker ni?

 No.522753

>>522740
>Kan man säga att det är ett uttryck av den nyliberala samhällsförvandlingen
Javisst, men det är nock en del historiska tillfälligheter med i spelet också. Tydligen har det smugglats in en hel del sprängmedel från balkan vilket då leder till ökad sprängningsfrekvens.

 No.522783

>>522740
>egentligen: actual
>Där: There?
>jag: I
>upp: up?
>det: it
>två: two
>under: under
>min: my
>barndom: childhood
>bor inte i Sverige: wasn't born in Sweden
>och: and
>är: are
>svårt: black
>utan: without
>sensationalism: sensationalism
>våld: forest?
>idag: today
>Kan: Can
>säga: say?
>av den: about the
>nyliberala: neoliberal
>eller: or
This is pretty much all the rest of us Nords can understand. More of us speak English than Swedish, the latter of which we know less than you might think, so keep that in mind.

 No.522805

>>522783
Tja. Vi har nu nått ett stadium av kulturimperialism där en del infödda svenska barn talar engelska istället för svenska. Det är också någonting att hålla i sinn när man väljer vilket av de två språken man ska bruka.

 No.522828

>>522805
>Vi har: We have
>ett stadium av kulturimperialism där: a stadium of cultural imperialism there
>svenska barn talar engelska: swedish children speak english
>för svenska: for swedish
>Det är: There are
>någonting: something
>av de två språken: of the two languages
Sorry, we still don't know what you are saying really. But I figure you made some point about Swedish kids also learning English… if that's true, then go on ahead and speak the international tongue.

 No.522850

>>522805
Detta tycker jag är ganska intressant faktiskt. Jag har märkt genom åren hur fler och fler engelska lånord blivit vardag i svenskan. Varför har det blivit så? Samma fenomen verkar inte ha spelat ut sig i andra nordiska länder trots liknande förhållanden, åtminstone inte på samma nivå.

 No.522860

>>522850
Mnjä, har dålig koll men danskar verkar vara rätt jävla svåra på engelskan. "Kompoter", "Gå kold törker" och allt vad de säger… som motpol har vi Island där de visserligen pratar mycket engelska men också är ettriga på att hitta på egna inhemska ord för nyinkomna begrepp, istället för att bara svälja engelskan.

Men skit samma, min poäng är att språk och kulturer inte ska förintas oavsett storlek eller (brist på) förtjänster. Tänk globalt, agera för klassen men tala skandinaviska!

 No.523628

Fuck the swedes, seriously. Make you own thread where you can circle jerk with your retarded language. This thread is for all northerners so speak english. Fucking arrogant nationalist pricks.

 No.523817

>>523628
t. pekka

 No.523827

>>523628
våra bröder till syd och väst har fritt fram att skriva i sina respektiva språk
våra grannar till öst hoppas vi inte sov över sina svenskalektioner

 No.523841

>>523628
småborgare

 No.524224

>>523628
Lol at this guy, we may be socialists here but we are Swedes first of all. Its not our fault you were born in an inferior country lmao

 No.524726

File: 1633113040096.jpg (588.39 KB, 895x908, Joe_hill002.jpg)

did he do it? the murder I mean

 No.524798

File: 1633118400848.png (183.93 KB, 865x1000, stsv.png)

>>523827
>>524224
baserat & swärjepillrat

 No.524833

>>518832
Bumping this question

 No.525066

File: 1633129147142.gif (6.36 MB, 450x381, laughing-31.gif)

>>524224
>swedes superior to any other nordic country
And socialism first everything else after. Like with your preferred han/hon/hen gender pronouns.

 No.525098

>>491269
Everybody just ended up copying it from the 13th century Danes. Now nobody gives a shit about the cross and people mostly think it as a symbol of common Nordic history and not much else since Nordic countries are basically areligious anyway.

 No.526347

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>>509829
Glöm inte dessa.

 No.526492

>>526347
>schizo infografik
>kulaks (peasant farmers)
försök åtminstone vara subtil pol
det är också välkänt att marx primärt skrev kritik och väldigt lite om vad som borde göras

 No.526520


 No.526676

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 No.527227

How many of you’re actually “torture is a legitimate way to reach admissions “ tier tankies?

 No.527244

File: 1633213976301.png (1.37 MB, 1024x769, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.533552

>>524726
Nope, but he couldn't use his alibi. He was with his male lover.

 No.533556

File: 1633472620848.png (1.19 MB, 1124x628, ClipboardImage.png)

Länge leve BÖG!

 No.533594

Goodbye red guard, goodbye for a moment only. Goodbye brothers and goodbye, I call elsewhere I received. We'll meet again and the fight will start again. If we are not, our children will join the front. They continue the work of the Reds, it can't break us. Yes, young people hear the call, just as bright it always rings.

Goodbye red guard and our flag red. Goodbye red heroes, where is probably your grave. On the side of the hill a red rose, bursts into bloom, it is soaked with the blood of the workers, it is tenderly cared for.

Goodbye red guard and our flag red. Goodbye comrades, fighters, goodbye faithful.

 No.533611

The Rose is Red

Von Döbeln led his troups to Jutas
and canons grimly blared.
In 1808,
barely fifteen was the boy.
He got a wooden cross on his grave
when the fallen were buried at night.
An unknown friend found a flower somewhere
and put it on his grave.

The rose is bright purple,
and love is pale like the deadly earth.
The rose has died just like he died,
who took, who took his life.

A hundred and ten years have passed,
in Tampere they battle in snow.
Brother against brother they fight,
and for their country they both died.
A blanket of white snow covers them
both in a nameless grave.
But no! – For each of them
a rose has been silently brought.

The roses are pure purple,
and love is pale like the deadly earth.
The roses have died and withered,
and quarrels have disappeared.

When they couldn’t hold Summa they ran away;
he among them – who could cast blame?
They heard just one explosion,
and died heroes, all of them.
Books will not carry pictures of them.
The strongest men get broken.
On almost an empty coffin
a delicate rose lies, my friend.

The rose is pure purple,
and love is pale like the deadly earth.

And then what, what happens now?
Many people have asked.
This must never happen again.
This madness must not be allowed.
Our fathers’ fathers and our fathers too
have fallen in mindless battles.
In vain? No! – But let’s admit:
justice is not gained with a sword.

Only the rose is bright purple,
and love is pale like the deadly earth.
The rose is the blaze of the heart,
and its purple will not wither.

 No.539606

Why is the Swedish left so opposed to using mandatory means to increase vaccination? Is it the same in other countries?

 No.539634

>>539606
>Why is the Swedish left so opposed to using mandatory means to increase vaccination?
are you aware of the Swedish eugenics program?

 No.539636

File: 1633775658161.png (3.03 MB, 2048x1536, finno korean.png)

I'm just going to leave this here.

 No.539668

>>539634
So a bad experience? Since the current leftist party was the only ones opposed to it back then

 No.539720

>>539606
Socdems are for tighter control because they care more about public health than economics. Right wing liberals want to open up the economy because money and right wing nationalists think the vaxxine is a conspiracy.
T. Finland

 No.539968

File: 1633801674777.jpg (72.61 KB, 693x448, 141881-full.jpg)

>>533594
>goodbye for a moment only
Tfw 2021

 No.540849

Kan någon förklara för en dum chinlet vad de där kvinnomorden tidigare i år hade med mansnormer att göra när de främst begås av folk som de flesta åtminstone anser borde få psykisk hjälp?

 No.542433

>>540849
att man har ett trasigt psyke betyder inte att man inte påverkas av omgivningens kultur & politik det kan ofta vara precis tvärtom

 No.542494

>>539636
They never paid back the machines we built there. Finno - Korean Hyperwar 2.0 soon.

 No.542496

>>539606
Because Swedes are higher than anyone on idpol.

 No.542940

>>542494
funny, neither ave they paid back the volvos we sold them long ago
t.swede

 No.542949

File: 1633981324623.jpeg (237.74 KB, 1942x1223, karta.jpeg)

>>542940
>we
anteeksi but volvo is a Finnish company :DDD used to make ufo parts back in the day and """stockholm""" is actually our city Tukholma :DDD also """Rome""", """London""", """Paris""", jne.

 No.542987

>>542949
>filename
finnish-swede detected

 No.543024

File: 1633985471279.png (715.15 KB, 703x802, :DDDDDDDDDD.png)

>>542949
I wonder if Greece is there just because or because someone made a theory the ancient greeks originated from the baltic region

 No.543036

>>542949 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqZMu4XiIn4

motherfucking finno fuckers causing the world to fuking collapse.
IF FINNO DIDNT EXIST THE GREAT HWAN EMPIRE AND THE OTHER NATIONS WOULD HAVE UNITED TO FORM THE UNITED PLANETARY EMPIRE

 No.543046

>>498048
I asked for a source, not glowpedia.

 No.544261

Finns det någonting ”revionistiskt” angående kirunasvenskarnas öden från Svesk vänster? Ej hittar något och frågar av ren nyfikenhet

 No.544268

Finns det någonting ”revionistiskt” angående kirunasvenskarnas öden från Svesk vänster? Ej hittar något och frågar av ren nyfikenhet

 No.545062

Is there any anti doomer material on the future of the Swedish welfare state?

 No.545160

Just moved to malmö, what do now

 No.545162

>>545160
Move to Finland.

 No.545429

NATO always asks Finland how many Russian troops are in Finland.

We say 10-12 Division under 1 meter of land.

 No.545471

>>545062
you mean things about it ending or?

 No.545481

>>545429
Go suck Mannerheims rotten cock you filthy lahtari.

 No.545577

>>545481
First fatherland and then socialism. Finland is extremely conservative but also leftist in their economic tribalism.

 No.545673

>>545577
Finns are exceptionally nationalist but centrist, more like. Thus any socialist movement that arises in the country will necessarily have to adapt to the nation and have a pronounced nationalist aspect.

 No.545690

>>545577
>First fatherland and then socialism
>fatherland

 No.545725

>>545577
>fatherland
kusligt

 No.545851

File: 1634154406504.pdf (7.67 MB, 212x300, 1634154305422.pdf)

>>545577
Being a socialist is the most nationalist thing there is. Socialism literally means NATIONALIZED industry. Capitalism exploits your countrymen and commodifies your culture.

 No.545885

>>545725
We use "isänmaa" in Finnish so it doesnt sound gay like your language.

 No.545887

>>545673
You underestimate KGB influence in Finnish politics only a strongman like Kekkonen (who was the leader of centrist party) could negotiate with the left. After all it was the social democratic party that declared war on the bourgeoisie Finnish government.

 No.545894

>>545577
>First fatherland and then socialism
You say it like those two are mutually exclusive. Nationalizing the industry and our abundant natural riches, putting public infrastructure back into public hands and making it all work for the benefit of the country's native population instead of letting ourselves be raped and pillaged by foreign capital day in and day out to own the libs sounds pretty fucking patriotic to me.

 No.546109

>>545851
>Socialism literally means NATIONALIZED industry
Not necessarily true.

>Capitalism exploits your countrymen and commodifies your culture.

Okay and? Socialism eliminates the distinction between your countryman and culture with the rest of the world. and that is good actually

 No.547026

>>545160
röka pisspipa i lilla bagdad sitter ju aldrig fel

 No.547699

>>545481
Mannerheim was like the only guy who wanted to at least try diplomacy with the soviets

 No.547995

>>547699
Why didn't Finland do the land swap again? Wasn't it because parliamentary proceedings took too long since they couldn't agree? Or did the parliamentarians just refuse to consider it altogether?

 No.547998

>>545894
>raped and pillaged by foreign capital
he said, living in an imperialist country

 No.548137

>>547995
Wasn’t Finland’s only defensive line within the land that would swapped?

 No.548784

>>548137
Doesn't seem like a good reason. If the USSR wanted to, as we saw, it could defeat Finland quite easily. In exchange the Finns would get more forested land, with timber being the central industry of Finland at the time (and still so).

 No.548858

File: 1634349518487.jpg (31.05 KB, 515x329, 79c.jpg)

>>547998
>he said, living in an imperialist country
Yes, and? Doesn't mean we don't get fucked over by other, larger imperialist powers. Finnish forests are still gonna get clear-cut, our public infrastructure is still gonna be sold off to the highest bidder and public services are still gonna be driven into the dirt and ultimately privatized regardless.

 No.549355

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>>545577
Nothing wrong with fatherland, but spouting anti-communist jokes about dead Soviet soldiers is nothing but bourgeois fascist filth.

 No.549364

>>545429
they could ask the amount of time they toke to break the soviet defenses, im kidding, even with their nazi allies they were unable to.

 No.549701

>>549355
see it from the bright side, even if they had won it would just have been 50 years of a failed implantation of socialism and then leave you poorer than you're now

 No.549799

>>549701
Finland would have their own form of nostalgia just like even the most industrialized parts of the Eastern Bloc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostalgie
Support for the Finnish communist party was naturally high and even took part in government some times, so the people themselves were realizing the need for socialism. Now under capitalism its properties are being privatized and exploited, parts of Finland sold out at the expense of the native workers who actually made it all.
BTW Finland's world-renowned education system is heavily borrowed from East Germany in particular.

 No.549806

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>>549799
>comparing finland to generic eastern euro countries rather than the baltic ones

 No.549812

>>549806
>East Germany is Eastern European
Nice selfie.

 No.549845

>>549812
asia extends from the pacific in the far east to the Rhine and Torneälv in the west

 No.549852

File: 1634416143503.png (179.29 KB, 641x530, 1498530852440.png)

>>549845
So you're saying Finland is eastern after all?

 No.549855

File: 1634416421322.jpg (869.7 KB, 1499x560, halti.jpg)

>>549852
yeah but they're different from other eastern european countries (good reason to distrust the west) and baltic countries (more peaceful contacts with their western neighbors)

Like would the modern republic of germany ever consider gifting poland a whole mountain? don't think so

 No.550224

File: 1634431432652.jpg (176.5 KB, 900x1172, Murskaa-Fasismi.jpg)

>>549701
>even if they had won
USSR won, both wars. After the "Winter war" Finnish workers set up the Finland–USSR Peace & Friendship Society. Almost 40,000 people joined immediately (soon all the leaders were arrested and the org banned). After the "Continuation war" the most popular party among the war-veterans was the SKDL (Communist led 'People's front' party). In 1945 elections the SKDL was the second largest party (and that's very telling, since Communism was illegal in Finland since early 1920's).

My grandfather fought in the Winter war and in the Continuation war. When he got home from the war, he said he never wanted to fight for the rich again. He was never very political, but after the war he subscribed to communist and pro-USSR newspapers.

>it would just have been 50 years of a failed implantation of socialism and then leave you poorer than you're now

These are "what if" imaginary scenarios. But think about this: What if USSR forced Finland into socialism after WW2. Finland is the road to Scandinavia. It's likely that Sweden and Norway turned to socialism after that. And when the whole North was socialist, the future of Communism and USSR would have been much different.

 No.550229

>>549701
That sounds like sour grapes

 No.551186

>>550224
How would this domino effect Finland, Scandinavia, Europe have worked?

 No.551864

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW1ZBJozQNU
K håller en digital studiecirkel runt sitt partiprogram
https://kommunisterna.org/politik/partiprogram
personligen är jag missnöjd att de är för samma dödliga narkotikapolitik som sossarna och resten av partierna, nu även V inkluderat

 No.553162

>>542433
Fast hur vet vi dessa människor påverkas av samhället istället för att de i egenskap av våldsamma människor ger sig på de svagare, då främst de kvinnor som lever med dem?

 No.554090

Nordic people, how are the Greens in your country? Do they have a left wing that is worth getting into or are they all bourgeois and a waste?

 No.554439

>>471558
went terribly lol

>>471753
i come here *very* rarely but i do recall seeing another icelandic person on here a while ago

>>554090
they suck

 No.554839

>>549852
of course Finland is eastern
eastern Sweden that is

>>554090
>how are the Greens in your country?
cucked beyond belief by bourgeois idpol

 No.554889

>>554439
Oh why? What happened in Iceland? I read that J didn’t get into government.

 No.554890

>>554889
>government
I meant parliament.

 No.556878

Hello Nordic crackers!
Did your voots also go as terribly for /ourguys/ as in Cuckkrautland?

 No.556884

>>556878
Red and Socialist Left got pretty good results in Norway

 No.557018

What’s going on with the universites in Denmark? Saw some resolution passed about the conduct of research passed

 No.558191

>>554090
Cucked by idpol in Norway. Although they are left wing economically

 No.558437

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12154244
New report shows Soviet partisans attacked Finnish villages tens of times during the Continuation War, massacring 150 civilians, many women and children.

 No.558519

>>558437
Wait till you learn what happened to the actually communist Finns who migrated there in the 20s

 No.559854

>>558437
>Asiakirjoista paljastui, että Suomeen tehtyjen iskujen siviilikohteet, kuten Lokka, oli väärennetty sotilaskohteiksi. Partisaanien heti iskujen jälkeen lähettämät sähkösanomat kellonaikoineen ja karttatietoineen vastasivat tarkkaan Suomen tietoja siviilikohteisin tehdyistä iskuista.
<From the records it was revealed that the civilian targets of the attacks on Finland, Like Lokka, had been (forgeried)? into military targets. The partisans' reports and electrict messages sent staight after the strikes, together with their timing and (map information)? correlated strongly with Finnish knowledge regarding the strikes at civilian targets.

It sounds like the partisans were either given false information regarding the targets, or more likely that they sent falsified reports to the government that they were actually military targets.

>Kirjassaan Erkkilä toteaa monien lähteiden osoittavan, että ensisijainen vastuu partisaaniosastojen iskuista suomalaisiin siviilikyliin oli Neuvosto-Karjalan kommunistipuolueen johtajalla Gennadi Kuprijanovilla.

<In his book Erkkilä states that many sources point that the primary responsibility on the attacks is to the Finnish civilian-villages is on the leader of Soviet-Karelia Gennadi Kuprijanov.


Interestingly enough the person mentioned here was accused in the Leningrad affair.
This isn't really news though, it's common knowledge in the north that these kind of things happened.

 No.560689

>>556884
How the fuck did you chads manage that, while the rest of Europe's socialists got (mostly) completely BTFO'd?

 No.561137

>>560689
Adopting the immigrant policy of the right

 No.561267

File: 1634986170361.jpg (299.17 KB, 961x720, 1619138355827.jpg)

>>561137
Go back.

 No.561288

>>561267
But that’s what happened, the Norwegian and Danish soccdems are the most anti immigration in Europe

 No.561307

>>561297
sarcasm eh

 No.561318

>>561137
<Re-adopting the immigrant policy of the left
FTFY

 No.561814

>>561288
>Succdems
Why do you think, I care about succdems? They are not socialists anyway. If anything it's just more proof that libs are fascists with a human face.

 No.561911

>>561814
If you’re wondering about our true leftist parties I think one of the Leninist ones recently splintered over trans issues

 No.562251

QUESTION
<https://www.riff-raff.se/
/lit/ just suggested I read this. what does /nordpol/ think of it?

 No.566878

File: 1635239605705.png (798.11 KB, 895x896, EbS-UsfXgAA36ti.png)

Say I'm an Amerilard who's making plans to move to Stockholm for their generally left but unorganized girlfriend. What's there to know about the current state of the left? From what I've heard its generally kind of going nowhere, yeah?

 No.567420


 No.567430

>>562251
It's ultraleft stuff in the councilist/communization tendency.

 No.567433

>>566878
This looks like a guardian author profile picture

 No.567445

>>567433
Nah, that would be this

 No.567456

File: 1635268005079-0.png (255.13 KB, 632x631, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1635268005079-1.png (1.14 MB, 895x896, ClipboardImage.png)

>>567445
He's John Harris

 No.567509

File: 1635270905543-0.jpg (227.87 KB, 640x873, Gustavus Adolphus.jpg)

File: 1635270905543-1.jpeg (68.68 KB, 1200x675, Swedish cousin.jpeg)

>>567456
The former king of the Swedes also definitely looked like a monkey.

 No.569813

efter de här skriverierna om adoptionsbarn som handelsvara antar jag vi alla är skyldiga tobias hubinette ett stort förlåt

 No.569830

>>569813
Okay let me guess…
>After they have … about adopted children … I will …
Don't know what this means.

 No.574859

Olen piakkoin muuttamassa pienestä tuppukylästä suureen yliopistokaupunkiin. Mitkä ovat parhaita paikkoja tavata toisia vallankumouksellisia?

 No.592140

“Borgerlig idé att det är viktigt med kvinnlig statsminister ”

 No.592353


 No.596363

>>592353
>vänsterpolitik är när vi har en obruten linje av manliga statsministrar
detta kommer säkerligen att bli en givande politisk diskussion änna

 No.596490

>>596363
det roliga är att du säkert är seriös
stadiet av vänstern

 No.596541

>>592353
>>596363
>>596490
HEY SWEEDIE IM NOD GONNA ASK YUO AGAIN
SPEAK
ENGLISH

 No.596684

>>596541
Ni får lära er skandinaviska i skolan. Gör bruk av det.

 No.596889

>>514328
vad fan, jag tänkte mig inte att det skulle finnas andra som har gått milin i Nylands Brigad här

 No.597912

>>596363
>vänsterpolitik är när vi har en statsminister med fitta istället för kuk
jag bryr mig inte om vilket kön högsta hönset i socialfascismen har anon
>>596541
nej

 No.597919

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>>596541
Go back, /pol/yp

 No.602115

>>550224
Your father did better as a communist in capitalist Finland than most communist Finns did in communist russia

 No.602119

>>602115
Плачь побольше

 No.602345

>>602119
Why were so many Finns guilty of wrecking in the USSR?

 No.606839

Rödpillra mig om tobias hubinette.
alltså från ett vänsterperspektiv

 No.608131

>>606839
bokstavligen vem?

 No.608199

>>602345
It was mostly Finnish communists who founded the Soviet Karelia (Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic) and took most of the leadership positions. The project of building socialism in Karelia took a very Finnish form in terms of language, culture etc. while Karelian people and culture was not equally represented in the Party and govt of Republic.

Eventually this led the CPSU accusing many Finnish communists being guilty of bourgeois-nationalism. Many Finns were expelled from the Karealian Communist Party and government positions. Later when Yezhov and his traitorous cronies in the NKVD started their killing spree, they used these accusations to execute many Finns as "spies" working for White-Finnish bourgeois-fascist secret police.

So yeah, many Finnish comrades were guilty of neglecting Karelian comrades. Many of them sure deserved to get kicked out of the Party and tought a lesson, but the Yezhovschina era accusations are mostly paranoia and product of anti-Soviet conspirators in the NKVD.

 No.608299

>>545577
>>545673
Retardation and brain rot. Finns are not "extremely conservative and nationalistic". This is moaning of radlibs and wet dreams of rightist nerds who have dipped a bit too much into their own supply. Historically Finland was ex-tre-me-ly red country. Our patriotism is of the Irish variety. Rightists are traitors to the country and the people. Bought and paid for gimp boys of foreign powers, and they should be treated as such.

 No.608355

>>608299
You can say whatever about who should lead the country but you can't deny that Finns are particularly nationalistic as it is now.
>Historically Finland was ex-tre-me-ly red country
Exaggeration. Otherwise they would have swept through in 1917, or at least win.

 No.608392

>>608199
so the response to "a lot of the people trying to build the future society ending up in a ditch" is just "shit happens" ?

 No.608462

>>608355
Damn reactionary finns whose whites werent dissunited like those in Russia and didn't want Russia to stay in terrible war

 No.612290

>>533594
>click on video
>go to comment section
>see this:
<spürdo sparde fr persitend! XD XD XD XD XD
why though

 No.612318

File: 1637605782435.png (105.16 KB, 320x250, harden yourself.png)

No niin poijaat, rinkirunkataas vähän.

Löyty tällaista yllättävän viiltävää analyysiä keltaisesta lehdistöstä:
https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/cbe46e55-3d09-4cba-a7c6-0c2d8d087177

Tuumin, että jooh, sitähän se tarkoittaa, että VL jää oppositioon, mutta onko tuon niin väliä. Niukaltipa löytyy ratkaisuja sieltäkään

Täällä aika hirveä ruotsi-RR. Mutta minkäs teet, niiden lautakulttuuri on olematon, vain joku kanal4, johon "Finland må ikke posta längre och ingen av värd gick förlörat." Ne on aina ihan täpinöissään, kun löytäätoisia ruuotsalaisia laudoilta :D


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