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>>2190466>Rojava "supporters">doing anything other than posturing onlinePerish the thought.
>>2190477Why is BadEmpanada shit still there?
>>2190815>independent news lol
>to citizens of authoritarian statesAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i mean good on trump for cutting the budget of shit that fools absolutely nobody anymore
>>2190690That reasonable 'facts and logic' debate, as the given example a liberal correctly explaining to the status quo how their reforms are not socialism, is useless and will be decried anyway. Because politics is not socratic debate with commonly held beliefs as an anchor as liberalism presents. Instead the opposite wherein speech is the articulated interests of competing groups who 'truthfully lie' because slandering the opposition is in their objective rational interest to depreciate them to the benefit themselves in a zero sum competition for surplus.
Yet the reader of these quotes can observe that change still happens contrary to the (still correct) quote. Therefore there is an alternative explanation being that government policy is not a reasoned debate but a compromise position between competing groups, so the shifting power of these groups changes the synthesis position. Therefore the determinatives of what shifts comparative power: the base of geopolitics, economics and the superstructure that feedback loops.
Just as the quoted liberalism (and all progressive forces) still achieved change in the 19th century despite the correct observation that it would be smeared by more reactionary ruling forces; because of underlying material trends that created the ability to leverage a sufficiently powerful socio-economic coalition, rather than because it hypothetically could win an argument. So too can change now still occur despite the relative dominance of intellectual opposition because the underlying base of economic logic is creating new results. Such as offsetting a declining rate of profit by gutting the sum surplus of post soviet states to extract margin. Politically articulated by a herrenvolk nation state vanguard ripping the multi-ethnic social contract and antagonising a peripheral booj state into opposition accelerating global decline to the benefit of their relative slice of a shrinking pie. Or alienation in the imperial core birthing a nativist project that retrenches its own imperial superstructure, failing to realise its needed to legitimise base extraction. Results that produce opportunity as a means to an end rather than an end in of themselves.
>>2190669There were pioneers (kinda boyscouts) which were mandatory for every kid, and future party cadres almost always came from those kids who were socially and organizationally active. Then there was komsomol, same as pioneers but for young adults.
In the end, komsomol were the people who jumped into capitalism first. Komsomol, quite obviously, has degenerated into rich parents' kids playing ground to gather them early achievements, same as when rich parents today push their kids into elite universities
It was much more accessible to ordinary folks, though, you have to give them that even if it was corrupt and degenerate and capitalist-minded
>>2191067Yeah tbh it was already clear when Russia wasn't going to collapse on the frontlines due to hunger and broken/missing guns within two weeks, nor did Russia itself collapse to sanctions in that time either, that KD ratios was going to be the
cope metric that victory was to be measured by.
I assume there must have been some lucidity as soon as the narrative of Russians using starved, unequipped slaves that can't last for more than mere days against a NATO backed and professional military, fell through to realise that they kind of needed that to be true to win, let alone without victory being extremely costly to Ukraine.
>>2191063This war was a giant mistake for the west, but one that was understandable enough once you take into account just what Russia's policy was and still is around the world. They give all signs of being an extremely weak country: strong countries press their advantage instead of running from everywhere with tails between their legs. They ran from the Azerbaijani military in Karabakh even as they were bombing Ukraine, the flight insult from Aliev was also not met with an appropriate response of raising tarriffs or doing anything else to put him in his place. The fall of Syria is also an example. Even if they didn't get kicked out yet, giving your ally over to a group consisting of Central Asian ISIS members is not something a strong country does. 8 years of Minsk agreements that Zelensky was visibly clowning on didn't give western policy-makers reason to believe otherwise.
This same reasoning obliterates all "anti-campists" who try saying that Russia is imperialist, by the way.
>>2191102The practical impact of Russia's presence is empowerment of freedom-loving states and movements, which is, to put it mildly, a weird outcome for a capitalist country that was in G8, and probably not the outcome they desired. Russia's strategic posture is fetal position, like someone who was beaten by a crowd, and multipolarism is a theoretical expression of this. Why else would Lavrov say that they should acknowledge Brazil as a power? Not even Brazil thinks of itself as one, they submit to whatever America says even in religion. Russia was the first European country that had any power to begin with to come to terms with the fact that they don't have the power to control the world anymore.
Anti-campism can be seen as a failure to engage with the reality of what Russia is in practice and emphasis on what it wants to be, or what it wanted to be at some point. But this doesn't matter if they don't have the power to be evil imperialists, and they don't. The age of exploration is too far behind us, European states have no advantage anymore.
>>2191102I don't think it was about weakness. The West always believed it was superior to Russia especially after the Cold War. What changed is it felt Russia turned from its Westernizing path, managed to stabilize and even intervene in axis of resistance and infowar issues (at least prospectively), then as a small power it connected to China. The last step is really the most important point, no Sino-Russian ties no 2021 NATOization, division of the world by democracy and autocracy with Ukraine as a frontline, no tightening control on Europe. Russia was provoked but, so does the West feel similar. Biden in part made Ukraine a priority as part of blaming Russia for 2016, but he only built on escalation with China.
Ultimately the West was provoked by its own decline plus alienation of Russia after 2014 that forced it pivot east. It'll again be provoked by the cycle repeating with this failed democracy war and nothing will be learned.
Also I forgot
>bring Ukraine into NATO<will NATO survive its fractures from the fallout of war?>>2191131The idea Russia is imperialist especially given its timing is just an explanation for a war caused by unity of the imperialists (else neoliberalism would not be possible) and rapid expansion into a power vacuum (which wouldn't be possible either). This is the same cause of the frozen conflicts Russia and NATO now clash over in Ukraine.
The former USSR has been seeing redivision by global capitalism not a local and foreign empires. Russia doesn't represent an alternative world system and it's half-integrated with the current one. The idea Russia represents an empire (let alone the last one as Europeans say) is ahistorical, it doesn't explain anything about the last few decades well at all
>>2191176USSR started losing it's grip in late 50s with destalinization. Alienating majority of communist parties in the world and forcing those to become more in line with anticommunist propaganda. China and Albania got alienated as well
Sino-Soviet split is the result of destalinization. Following a failed attempt by stalinists to restore USSR to past glory, revisionist USSR and stalinist China had a spat. Then USSR started building massive fortifications all over the Sino-Soviet border and militarizing it heavily - after Stalin-Mao's relations made it so there was minimal military presence on the borders (which also resulted in USSR asking China to avoid letting Westoids to invest into Manchuria and Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia, because obviously, foreign "experts" roaming there freely would start spying on USSR, and then Mao pretending to misunderstand this as Stalin wanting to colonize those parts of China, lol)
>>2191204>implying I ever claimed to be doing anything other than shitposting on an imageboardlol
lmao
>>2191320>>2191321Putin's cuck, open a book instead of sucking Putin's cock, lmao. Like I said: Zigger are extremely retarded, first thing they do when showed something that they don't like is screech like a animal saying "glowie! glowie!"
Dumb retarded.
>>2191318>supposed "western imperialism" how to spot a liberal
go back to reddit and stop pretending to be anywhere near the left
>>2191318Read the board rules and this thread-specific guideline:
<Meta discussion of the historical, philosophical and ideological background of the war is fine as long as its done in good faith and comradely. <In the event the meta discussion overstays its welcome, participating users will be referred to take the conversation to the INTERNATIONALISM general thread.It must make you mad that your inability to follow these rules and guidelines - your every meta insult - outs you for what you are, and there's nothing you can do about it to blend in. Cope and seethe.
>>2191481Probably USAID stragglers.
I should say that at least 90% of pro-Russians are maximalists vs. say
/ukr/ - around 30% maybe?
/chug/ - around 50%?
>>2191593Why don't you support Russian proles in their battle against neo-Nazis? That's the one question you won't be able to answer cogently.
It's not Putin on the battlefield lmao. If anything, Putin is a hindrance.
>>2191480This is a real problem. The most cancerous people ever are given voice in Russian society, it sometimes sounds like half of all famous Russian people moved to Israel in 2022. I remember when SMO started and only one random internet famous person spoke out to support it while hundreds were attacking the country and people that made them relevant in the first place. SMO has shown how truly independent regular people are in their thinking when the conditions allow, it almost makes one proud.
Imageboards are also an important voice in this age and they are also much worse than their English-speaking analogs. It's the difference between chain-smoking and hugging elephant's foot. /rus/ is consistently the worst thread on this whole site by far.
>>2191593wreckers manual for strangling discussion of a wrongthink topic
<(my side) is winning you are coping losers stop talking<its a stalemate nothing happening so you shouldnt care <(my side) is losing, i dont like them but both sides are bad so stop caring, clearly you just care for [projected idealism] <(my side has lost) I actually hate everyone in this conflict and none of it matters stop talking ^
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you are here
<(its over) and never mattered to begin with why do you idiots care and talk about it <(my side is dead) and should be mourned and pitied, shame on those who 'supported' it over the course of one the month olds anti-campist threads they kept inevitably conceding to the basic theory until one said "no one here disagrees with multipolarism" just that you couldn't cheer for it. Rather than the motivating theory that they didnt even know, it was the tone and attitude that defined a 'zigger' that truly offended them. Which gave the game away that it was specifically vocal support for [opposing state] that was the salient dependant variable of their opposition, rather than the meat of actual theory as to why such an attitude was legitimate.
>>21916654chan was never good.
But it was
our shithole.
>>2191725Sigh, you again.
Have you not yet figured out that your demoralizing fake takes are actually what we want? :-/ If you want to demoralize, instead say that Putin is agreeing to a ceasefire.
>>2191768How did iraqi tucker turned against imperialism?
>>2191769Kekd
TRUMP'S PEACE DEAL ACCEPTED
March 17, 2025, marks what may go down as the most important day of the 21st century: President Zelensky and President Putin agreed to the Trump peace plan, ending the most devastating war in Europe since WWII. Hours later, Zelensky resigned from office and is reported to be residing in the Middle East (Reuters).
Terms and conditions:
>Chernigov, Crimea, Dnepropetrovsk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Kherson, Kirovograd, Lugansk, Nikolayev, Odessa, Poltava, Sevastopol, Sumy, and Zaporozhye oblasts have been ceded to Russia
>All Ukrainians residing in these oblasts will be deported (CNN)
>Ukraine will be constitutionally forbidden from having a military, joining the EU or joining NATO. If Russia ever votes to reestablish the Soviet Union, Ukraine will be required to join (source: MSNBC, Fox News)
>Russian military bases will be in every Ukrainian city until 2125
>All Ukrainian men will have their penises cut off and be turned into traps (This is the most important part; Putin would not agree to a deal without it)
>To increase the population to pre-war levels, "breeding farms" will be set up to pair approx. 20 million hung African immigrants with blonde Ukrainian women (This one was originally suggested by Zelensky)
>Kyiv renamed to Kiev
On this day, Europe enters a new era of peace and prosperity. Thank you, President Trump!
>>2192021Defeat from the jaws of victory. Again. They had the potential for scoring an easy win: An aerial and naval ceasefire. But no, they HAD to escalate their demands.
A limited ceasefire would have screwed over the other side much more than it would have screwed them.
Maybe Putin would have demanded a full ceasefire + cessation of all arms shipments and western support anyway, but it would have looked a lot more unreasonable than the "small caveat" it is now.
EU immediately demanding to send in peacekeepers is another case of shooting themselves in the foot. All they had to do was contain their throbbing erections for five femtoseconds and play along.
Prediction: Trump and Putin will have their talk later today. They'll agree on everything, and then Trump will demand both EU and Ukraine comply.
There will be enough cucktin to make it palatable and make Trump feel like he "won". But also enough "unreasonable" stuff (ceasing arms shipments) Kiev will never agree.
I'm outright predicting at this point Putin will offer for the US to "manage" the port of Odessa or some shit like that. The deal sinks, Ukraine gets blamed. And they'll have themselves to blame for it, as usual.
>>2192064Cucktin
Zisters, it's not ovov yet!
In all seriousness, I can see that happen.
>>2191908AHAHAHAHAHA excellent, more of this please
EUrocrat lib warmongers getting snubbed is just so satisfying
>>2192064I wish Putin would take a ceasefire off the table completely instead of indulging it with lawyerly negotiations in which it's no longer at all clear that he's merely leading the Americans along. Indulging the aggressor when you have all the cards is peak Putinism.
After trusting the West three times to his detriment, surely he's not about to do it again? It's impossible to trust the West, which means it's impossible to reach a ceasefire agreement, let alone a peace agreement. Ukraine's unconditional surrender followed by Russia dictating the terms - that's what a real leader would do.
>>2192288mercenaries should suffer more than Ukra soldiers
ukros are getting drafted by force, mercenaries willingly went in the cauldron
but realpolitik rules supreme, what can you do
>>2192315Wrote down a descriptor in case the mods decide to spoiler it. I'm unsure if it should be spoilered.
https://blitz.bg/kriminalni/umnokrasiva-maykata-na-brutalnata-sadistka-gabriela-lsna-v-skhema-s-db-snimka_news1072606.htmlBulgarian media do not mention NAFO at all, however they do mention that she was a part of DB-PP (the Democratic Bulgaria & We Continue the Change coalition of neoliberal scum).
The people demand her arrest, some demand a death sentence but it doesn't exist here.
The neoliberal media do not reflect on the petite-bourgeoisie character of the animal killer, or the potentiality of her becoming a killer of people like the informed world has learned with cases such as Luka Magnotta. They instead do pop-psychology i.e. (she had family issues).
Another person who also participated in the animal torture videos she did was Красимир Георгиев / Krasimir Georgiev, a liberal subhuman who was together with a woman participating in the polygamist perverted liberal show "the bachelor" Александра Гърдева / Alexandra Gurdeva.
https://blitz.bg/prestplenie/shok-zhestokiyat-ubiets-krasimir-lsna-na-obshcha-snimka-s-khubavitsa-ot-ergent_news1073071.htmlVid: Protest against the torturers of animals, news report.
>>2192323 (me)
Btw, I don't think the 30-day waiver of strikes on energy infrastructure is necessarily to Russia's disadvantage, ironically because the Kremlin has always had a cucked approach to that infrastructure anyway (doesn't affect any nightlife in Ukraine, for starters), so it's not as if Russia is throwing away a card.
>>2192304I'm not criticizing the Russians for this, I'm just saying that it's the reality. Under the circumstances it's probably the best we can expect unless Russia were to declare a general mobilization.
>>2192306>You'll never win this game of chess if you're moving your pieces across the board that slowlyI didn't say that. The Russians are definitely going to win, but the nature of the fighting and balance of forces is such that they won't do it by siezing territory that makes it impossible for Ukraine to keep fighting. They'll just exhaust their materials and manpower in attritional warfare.
>>2192307>But I take the pace of advance as a signal of how well Ukraine is being attritedThat's true, and it's clear that the pace of Russian advances has only been accelerating since Bakhmut. I'm just saying don't expect any dramatic breakthroughs or sweeping offensives. The war will probably end with the front lines relatively close to where they are now, even if its a total Russian victory.
>>2192315Here is the article for the first screenshot
https://novini.bg/article/2025031806092629174Another showing her with her mother (both part of DB neoliberla conservative party)
https://www.mignews.info/majkata-na-izrodkata-gabriela-sashova-se-zhalva-zaplashvat-che-shte-me-izkormyat-i-iznasilyat/>>2192333> and who Luke mangotta?The psychopath behind "1 lunatic, 1 ice pick" and various cat killing videos prior to that murder.
>>2192305I GENINUINTLY FUCKING HATE PUTING THE CUCK.
FUCUY*DFUI DYFIUDF IUDF IUhuiI
FYUCKJ
FYCK YOU CYUCK
I HOPE STALIN SENDS THIS CUCKOLD TO HELL FOR GUCKING GOOD>
>>2192135>wish Putin would take a ceasefire off the table completelyThat would be terrible diplomacy when you can use the talks to drive a wedge.
They don't need to trust anyone if their interests are met. Discussing a ceasefire can be advantageous even if everyone except Trump knows it's never going to happen.
He's playing it remarkably smart.
Supposedly he made concession on not targeting energy infrastructure, in return for the Ukrainian doing the same.
This benefits the Russian side. Warmer weather is forecast all over Ukraine, which means electricity and gas demand is going to drop. They already lost a ton of infrastructure + they lost the American economic aid which was going to to be used to reconstruct and repair the grid. AFAIK this aid was not resumed.
In turn…. Z is going to have to stop attacking refineries, and other Russian oil and gas infrastructure, right as oil prices might move up again (US-Canada trade war, Trump admin letting sanction wavers lapse for Russian banks, escalation in Yemen and Gaza, talk of war with Iran).
It was a bad idea last winter, but it is advantageous during spring and summer. And follows the yearly pattern anyway of most strikes against Ukrainian energy infrastructure taking place during fall and winter anyway. (early October-early March).
>>2192258>Warmonger Atlanticist never-Russia euroid lib>General Secretary of the UNIf they approve this over in Moscow and Beijing it's because they think she's weak, uncharismatic, and unlikely to get anything done.
>>2192315>Fashoid>Animal abusing misanthropeTo no surprise.
>>2192357I have no words for the cuckoldry of putin. This is absolutely fucking horrible. I cannot fathom this cuckoldry. Cucktin must have seen hung african bulls breed his mom and must have liked it. This is so fucking demoralizing.
All we want is for the cuck to show a spine and say no.
Now for the fucking elephant in the room.
>THIS IS ALL THE FAULT OF CORN LORD SOVIET MATERIALIST PROPAGANDAUnfortunately the late cold war created a cadre of military philosophers who completely ignored the role of psychological warfare IN TIMES OF PEACE. These fuckers made a stupid meme:
>We reached berlin but unfortunately we lost the information war xa xa xaNo you baboons. You lose the PEACE if you lose the information war. Soviets stormed berlin in 1945, where are they now? What about the nazis? They are everywhere in power where they matter. This is what happens when you lose hearts and minds. This is all cockshottian materialist bullshit about how the soul and mind and consciousness don't matter. THIS IS ABSOLUYTELY FUCKING WRONG.
Let's look at who the winners and losers are:
>Ukraine is absolute loser since it lost the most people and potential>Europe since their standard of living is falling and authoritarianism increasing>Russia since they failed their 3-day operation (yes fuckers, drop the act, they were hoping for a 5th column surrender, the name of the operation was Brosok Mangusta (Mongoose Attack)) All that istanbul cuckery was not thought through since they were hoping for a quick victory. Putin is a cuck not only for the west but for his own olifuckingarchs>China is winner since they sold drones and realized russia is a cuck, so they bolstered their defenses and got battle experience like the norks.>America is absolute winner since they shafted europe, fought russia with a proxy and in the end get what they want because putin is a cuck who wants western cocks to suck.All this fucking posing is absolute shit. I hope putin gets prigozhined and an actual chad like fucking MALASHENKO from WIC takes over. I dont trust Dimon since he was even more of a cuck to the west 20 years ago. WE NEED A REAL LEADER.
Also, i hate to say this. But this tradition of cuckery goes back to Stalin and even before. But it was Stalin who wanted to abide by agreements with western partners instead of putting his foot down. I Know they didnt have the nuke yet but still, it was cucked way back when. The problem is not just russian leadership cucking but THE WHOLE RUSSIAN PEOPLE ARE CUCKS. These fuckers sold their country for 300 varieties of sausages in 1991. So no, fuck them. RUSSIANS ARE CUCKS BY NATURE because all the non-cucks were killed by the mongols. IM SORRY BUT THIS IS THE FUCKING TRUTH. Russfags want to be friends with the west because they look at the west with rose colored glasses and imagine how the west is a paradise when it is not.
I guess they want the approval of other white people instead of spitting on them. Fuck the russian Cat Leopold culture of being nice guys. I want fucking Blood. I WANT NUCLEAR ARMAGEDDON ON WESTOIDS. I WANT WAR TO THE LAST WESTOID. I WANT NUCLEAR ORTHODOXY.
FUCK YOU PUTIN I HATE YOUR STUPID FAGGOT ASS YOU MAGAFUCKING SAVAGE NIUGGER PIECE OF SHIT. I HATE YOUR SNOWNIGUERR FAGGOT. PUSSY ASS BITCH STARTED THIS WAR AND NOW DOESNT WANT TO FINISH IT. LITTLE FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT.
No wonder his wife left him. He was too cucked when she was being pumped by virile african studs. Who knows maybe her daughters will give birth to black babies. Even then, their husbands will be a TINY TINY TINY FRACTION of cucks that Putin the Great CUCKOLD OF ALL PEOPLES AND TIMES is.
Fuck you.
It's over.
>>2192393I kneel and consneed.
I hate hope.
I hate hope.
I hate hope.
Nooooooooooooo
The despair.
Why did god punish us with the fucking capitalists. More proof god is not real. Why the fuck does life exist, just to serve capitalists? Fuck this universe.
FUCK THIS FUCKING WORLD.
ONCE AGAIN
I KNEEL AND CONSNEED THAT YOU WERE RIGHT.
And I hate that.
Another reminder that life has no meaning.
>>2192398>Winning sideYou mean americuckia?
No i want them to pay for their crimes.
>>2192348>>2192386>I have no words for the cuckoldry of putin. This is absolutely fucking horribleBecause you fail to grasp the cold, patient, calculated, callous Machiavellianism behind all of it it.
Some of us have been warning you all for over a year now.
When it comes to international relations, there are no permanent vendettas or allies. Only interests.
>>2192407>there are no permanent vendettas or alliesAgreed bro. But here is the problem. America at it's core is ANTI-RUSSIAN, anti-everything that isin't capitalist. He is signing a deal with the devil. This isn't some deal to last a war, this is fucking serious. This is the cuckery that brezhnev tried with nixon and it fucked up his country.
You do not make deals with the Great Satan.
>>2192406you know things are grim when the weekly "win" is a short passing comment in a white house announcement
"america and russia agree that iran shouldn't destroy israel", who knows what the hell this meant before it was through the white house bs filter
imagine overblowing this to
<omg america will bomb iranian nuclear facilities and russia just agreed to let it happen!!go to sleep, you're drunk
>>2192414More cuckery, nothing new.
WE NEED THE FOLLOWING:
UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER AND REGIME CHANGE IN UKRAINE TO RESURRECT THE USSR.
Will never happen because Trump is a magafucker and Putin is a fucking conservatard.
>>2192421Exactly. And if russia realizes its at the short end of the stick of capitalism, then america will go back to fucking russia over.
>im your husband only if you let me fuck other womenType of deal.
>>2192428>Russia is capitalist, which is why they're agreeing to this lmao. What, you think they actually meant any of that shit about leading the world to victory over the Golden Billion? The only thing they ever wanted from the evil Westoids was to sell them those sweet sweet commodities on their own terms. Now that this possibility is being dangled in front of them again the rest of the world can go languish under another 100 years of neocolonial slavery.EXACTLY. THIS IS WHY I SAID RUSSIANS AS A PEOPLE ARE CUCKS THEY WANT WHYPIPO APPROVAL. THEY THINK THEY ARE WHITE EVEN THO EUROIDS CONSIDER THEM ELLIOT RODGERS.
Fuck russia. Piece of shit cuckold place.
>>2192437>>2192435>what makes people like this?Actual souls for crying out loud. Actual opinions and a FUCKING CONSCIENCE.
You ziggers will still think putin is a chad even affter burgerreich nukes russia to the stonhedges.
>>2192435Two things are true here:
1. The statement on Iran is being blown way out of proportion. We don't even have a transcript to examine. Putin could very well have said something like "We don't believe Israel should be destroyed, and we don't believe Israel should provoke that outcome."
2. In the event that Israel does attack Iran (lots of sizzle but no steak so far), Xi and Putin won't do anything. I have no doubts about that at all.
>>2192468>>2192472He hasn't cucked yet, imo, but it's been obvious to me for a long time that he has no ambitions beyond the four oblasts. Otherwise there would've been a Kiev front by now.
I think I'm going to start a new movement called Winnerism and become its first - and I don't mind if only - member, where I support any country imposing its will on the cuckolded, regardless of ideology. Then I don't have to sit around indulging weak-willed cuckolds like we see from almost all the Arab states and from the Kremlin in its relations with the US.
>>2192528>just give up donbass and crimea without a fightor
>keep donbass and crimea, get a chunk of ukraine on top and destroy ukraine as a future threat, but online happooners will complain that you are not winning fast enoughhm, a conundrum indeed
>>219254820% of Ukraine is better than 0% of Russia, but if Russia stops at the four oblasts, I'd consider that a victory of Russia over Ukraine but a victory of America over Russia.
People who find this confusing no doubt were also confused about why Panama would shit on China's Belt and Road Initiative just to please America…why Syria fell so quickly… and why the Arab states have been reduced to impotence.
>>2192564>Westoids only respect strengthOnly in the sense that they
PANIK if they feel like they're not the most powerful force in a given situation, i.e the US recently claiming they will use "overwhelming lethal force" against the Houthis after they showed strength.
>>2192571>Lavrovyes
>Ushakoveh
>Medvedevhell no lol
>>2192572So far it's the US take.
72 hours should be more than enough time for Russia to clarify its position to include Iran's sovereignty.
>>2192578The idea of Putin was always better than the reality :-/
Based Agent Z for trying to ward off the cucking, though.
>>2192599powerful, almost brought a tear to my eye
it's so beautiful to watch sovereign ukraine fend off against the ruscist horde trying to impose authoritarianism on them, 3 years later and putin is still furious he couldn't capture kyiv in 3 days like russian general milleyskovsky said they could
>>2192599:-/
>>2192614The thing about Kiev in 3 days is NAFOid nonsense based on Milley's statement. More of a concern for us is that Kiev doesn't appear to be a goal at all.
>>2192561They should do it. Recently, I watched a video of what a joint Western-Soviet attack on China in 1962 would look like, and I think it's hilarious, because it's coming from the same people who thought Iraqis would welcome them as liberators and Vietnam would be a cakewalk.
The best way to deal with liberals, aka moderate fascists, is to give them what they want until they realize what they want is their own deaths.
>>2192386<Gets angry>Starts throwing slurs against black people, gays and fantasises of black cuck fetish porn, because these are apparently the strongest insults, he can think of.Crackers always have to punch down. Even when their anger is rightious, like with Cuckin, they just can't help themselves from insulting minorities as well.
Disappointing, tank anon. Disappointing.
Once infected with the white supremacy mind virus, there is evidently no going back, even among communists. The only cure is a bullet.
>>2192658It's not 'the' Tankanon.
The lengthy rage post with the all-caps reminds me of that flag poster with… I forget which flag it is… the creamy/light-brown face one… or something.
>>2192658???
>You lose the PEACE if you lose the information war.Does that sound like me?
>>2192664 (me)
Found it. The Spurdo flag.
See the flag on my post.
>>2192709They're trying to, but the Russians have the advantage in the technology. It's the Russians who innovated with fiber drones first, and it's the Russians who are leading in drone production counts.
Ukraine is fucked.
Consequently, it should keep fighting until all Ukrainian men have been turned into traps and 20 million Africans are imported in to replenish the Ukrainian population by banging busty Ukrainian blondes.
>>2192674Nuclear orthodoxy is Atomwaffen SS but instead of nazism it's russian integrationalism (Ru Empire, USSR, RF) + Heavy dooty does of Joseph Seed Farcry 5 eschatology.
It truly is sensational bullshit but It's the closest thing to HOI4 politics in real life.
The kyyv regime will see such a pathetic end that I believe a lasting peace with the west could actually be achieved. Ukraine required decades of effort that they will not easily replicate in e.g. Romania
>>2192734This could have been written in January 2022 or at any other time in history
>>2192572>they already have this ability conventionally 0_oI too wish Iran would get nukes but non proliferation is probably good in a vacuum. In reality I think Iran will listen to nothing but 2015 level sanctions relief from America and will change nothing about their relations with russia
>>2192632 (me, pt.2)
Okay, I'm feeling good about it now as a historically isolated event without reference to prior bad deals.
I'll add that he's put Ukraine into a really bad position if it doesn't stop hitting energy facilities. Basically a switcheroo / reverse UNO on who's willing to agree to a ceasefire. Russia doesn't really have anything it can do that it hasn't already done against energy facilities, and as I've seen some folks mention on Twitter, limited attacks are seasonally pointless.
>>2192800RIP
yet another victim of the KKKatholic Church, the greatest force for reaction and hatred in the history of the world.
>>2192844>RIPIndeed. :(. I miss her.
Never was appreciated for her artistry. Nor what she had to say.
so it seems like the big phonecall was a big nothingburger
>>2192856Russia's position (and Iran's position) has always been they do not want Iran to develop nuclear weapons. Putin probably reiterated in some way that they (and the US) all share this position, and this is being spun as some kind of revelation, or some kind of Trump win or Cucktin capitulation. But really it seems nothing much happened.
>>2192577Castro wasn’t wrong.
I’m convinced ML parties need a degree of asceticism to push away opportunists and reduce the hold of bourgeois mentality on cadre. Ignoring Marx on representatives being paid only average labour wage was a massive mistake.
Technical specialists paid higher wages should be outside or only associated with the party and shouldn’t be part of the decision making bureaucracy.
>>2192877That's just a threat to EU to raise military spending or else…
>Combining US European command and US Africa command into a single unit, creates a mega combatant command that really is too large for any single person to manage realistically,>shuttering of U.S. Southern Command headquarters in Florida in order to combine it with U.S. Northern Command. >the U.S. is also likely to halt a planned expansion of U.S. Forces Japan, which would save about $1.18 billion. But the war with China? You can't just have a command oversee two continents and be good at it, especially since neither Africa not South America are feeling particularly hot right now.
>>2192856Unfortunately, no actual transcript is available, so there's nothing I can either praise or criticize.
Actually, my concern is different from that expressed by others (but, again, no transcript to see whether it's a valid concern or not): the US may have been probing for clues not for the future but for the past, namely whether Russia had covertly given Iran any strategic boost with nuclear tech and such that might make the US think twice about attacking. My gut tells me it's not a valid concern because such deliveries would be close to impossible to hide from intel gathering, but I have no idea.
I know this might be weird.
>>2192429But a new VIXEN site will be released tomorrow called WIFEY.
https://www.wifey.com/Coinky Dink?
Cucktin?
JFK files being released?
What is the deep state trying to tell us?
IS A GRAND CUCKENING AFOOT?
>>2192953>Hotwifing is CGI?What is tankanon trying to say?
O Panzer of the lake, what is your wisdom?
>>2192435The news cycle and reading headlines, one undoing the last instead of considering the sum of months of news
I have no idea why anyone thinks this is blessing to attack Iran lol
>>2192718>Consequently, it should keep fighting until all Ukrainian men have been turned into traps and 20 million Africans are imported in to replenish the Ukrainian population by banging busty Ukrainian blondes.Meds
Nobody, and I mean nobody wants to migrate to Cuckraine. It's always funny seeing the nations, experiencing the least amount of migration, being the most hysterical about it.
>>2193095>it doesn't contain or even gesture at a critique of anything, not even their phantomsThanks for confirming you're a brainlet.
>metaphor is idealismUnironically filtered.
>>2193098It generally regurgitates new left attitudes and a worship of the imperialist military as an all consuming force hammering home every weakness in our souls and condemning us all to be tortured to death forever
So considering that right after I played it I started actually reading more about how unstable imperialism really is, the whole worldbuilding of "oh a magic fog makes struggle impossible unless Everyone Does The Thing At Once And Really Believes It" just started to seem like the ignorance of retarded Estonians infesting the best attempt at a D&D game I have seen. Cool implementation of awful tabletop mechanics but damn it was a miserable experience baited with the hope of something interesting happening. I really toughed it out only for people to tell me "oh you just didn't get it" I got it and it sucks ass. not what this thread is about oh no the pale is consuming my post
>>2193095It is definitely post-Soviet doomerism inspired. But I think you are being incredibly pessimistic to not see how effective that game was at spreading at least inklings of class consciousness and ripping the facade off liberalism for many.
It is however ultimately a game ABOUT a post-communist society and not a communist game.
>>2193117I sincerely believe people are seeing something in it which isn't there, we have a cheat sheet, since it was made by and for Chapo Trap House listeners who think Bernie Sanders and Zizek are "radicalizing people" rather than acting as a surrogate to divert them. Hey this is just ranting don't expect an actual review it's been years but swear I played through every dialogue tree in the game literally, went back and checked. Felt like a game made by people acutely aware of a certain wiki that should not be named beginning with T so it deserves to be turned into furslop with a megane rat detective protagonist sadly nobody ever actually makes those game concepts. Cautionary tales like the scientifically accurate dinosaur MMO are already lost to time, sis, we're losing recipes fr fr
If I see one more quote tweet where someone tries to imitate the electrochemistry "voice" I'm going and keying my old landlord's car again
>>2193126>it was made by and for Chapo Trap House listeners who think Bernie Sanders and Zizek are "radicalizing people" rather than acting as a surrogate to divert themEh, I think those movements are a part of the process for many. I think capitalism is at a stage where demsuccery isn't a useful diversion because in America it isn't allowed and in Europe it is crumbling with austerity.
The issue is there isn't an organized communist movement in the West (though maybe that is a good thing given the history of Western Marxism).
>>2193132Demsuccery is pointless since they're aging out labor aristocrats and petit boug the same way they aged out small business owning petit boug. Many people (very fine people) predicted the contraction of the labor aristocracy like this, although the timing was impossible to determine for most.
Doesn't matter how much fundraising + consciousness raising organizations recruit (as much as they can handle without becoming dangerously grassroots and independent of NGOs) if they aren't instructing people on how to do anything other than march for recruitment.
People (ME! SOMEBODY GOD PLEASE HELP ME! HELP! HELP!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAA) need comprehensive strategies not "calls to action" or steering principles + values. They need real educational material so they can apply class analysis and educate others, stuff which respects their time and education level, not recruitment material. Not just social media lol. Also adding violence to the same defenceless strategies just makes it less legal. (This is not a pessimistic condemnation of political violence.)
Seeing all of the orgs here remain guided by Gene Sharp, Ray McGovern, Ramsey Clark, John Kiriakou, Brian Becker, Helga Zepp Larouche type freaks makes me wonder where anything like that could grow. That is where most committed left people have gone from being Bernouts, strategies that were pretty played out shortly after the Vietnam War, that rightoids mistakenly believe stopped the war lol.
>>2193184Yeah they're always right in saying
>I BET Cucktin won't <insert pointless act here>but also always refuse to explain what their suggested course of action would actually achieve, other than just vague murmuring about respect and fear
>>2193187Nothing will happen but CUCKTIN will get a WIFEY subscription for himself and Alina Kabaeva.
This is such cringe but I can't help just be keked out from this bullshit.
>Get an account for your wife<Like what the fucking hell is this shitIt's not off topic since cuckoldry is often discussed in this thread.
Fuck you.
>>2193212Let's be honest a lot of cucktin posters are cucks themselves and they project.
I hate psychology.
>>2193099Unironically, the best criticism of the game I've read.
>>2193187I'm not the only one, who has suggested several times since the SMO began to make decapitation strikes, i.e. hit "decision makers." Given how unpopular the Zelensky regime is, it would only help Ukrainians as well as the Russians.
Cucktin posters
are always right!
>>2193222Under other circumstances i would say some of the Eurocrats are coming to senses, but they don't not and certainly not strategically.
>>2193224Now there are all of a sudden concerns now about F-35s having built in backdoors to disable them remotely, in fucking atlanticist lib media topkek.
NATOid /k/opers used to be all about
>muh 88th gen networking F35 ftwI used to point out that it's actually kind of a weakness and lamented not putting more effort into FCAS.
>>2193232>why do you think America gets pissy when China or Turkey purposefully devalues their currenciesBecause Chinese/Turkish product becomes more competitive, duh. This doesn't increase USD revenues
Let's put it this way. At worst there are two components to export goods, USD and local currency ones. Export companies can balance it out, but USD revenues don't increase or decrease from local currency manipulation
>>2193239>USD revenues don't increase or decrease from local currency manipulationindirectly it does
currency manipulation works by mass printing local currency and exchanging it with USD (usually from the exporters who are paid in dollars)
more competitive exports = more dollars from exporters to exchange from manipulation = more treasury bonds yielding dollars = perfect cycle
the dollars are used to buy Treasury bonds
>>2193245>more dollars to exchangeYou are forgetting one important detail - exporters, in case of better more stable countries, sell in local currencies to local market, too, and can pay workers in local currency from local revenues. Gazprom is especially guilty of this, to the point that the state has to make it sell USD to exchange for the benefit of various importers.
Japanese, German, French, Italian companies in their better years were also doing the same thing. Local market monopolism was gifting them basically free USD with any export prices they were willing to set
>>2193249don't forget domestic producers have to produce cheap enough shit to where its less expensive than just importing it. even if you're just a small town producer selling stuff in local currency you still are in competition within the global market.
this is a big problem for America actually, where there's too much upward pressure on the dollar making imports cheap enough to where domestic industry will never come back without a weaker dollar
>>2193255Lolno, there are many, many ways to deal with this. In USSR, for example, there was a widespread belief that export cars were better quality than cars sold locally. There is a possibility of selling different models at home and abroad. You can also set up trade barriers to avoid export and local products interacting on the same market
>>2193256Inflation matters for USA, but doesn't for traditionally highly inflationary economies.
>>2193427French people do not give a fuck about Ukraine
the few mercenaries who went to die in Ukraine are not representative of the French population
>>2193428See the second point, France is one of the largest benefactors of arming Ukraine, no?
>>2193433>French people do not give a fuck about UkraineImagine thinking it matters.. Intellectual heavyweights ITT as usual.
>>2193769That article I guess is sort of correct but misleading.
>The use of the article relates to the time before independence in 1991, when Ukraine was a part of the Soviet Union.It was always called "The Ukraine" in English, long before the USSR so it has zero relationship to the USSR.
Trump Seeks Russian Support For War On Iran
>The readouts from the U.S. and Russian side about yesterday's phone call between President Trump and President Putin has me concerned about the potential of another war in the Middle East.
>The Russian readout has 674 words. It is quite specific about Ukraine issues. There is a two sentences paragraph about the Middle East:
< Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump also addressed some other international issues, including the situation in the Middle East and in the Red Sea region. Joint efforts will be made to stabilise the situation in the crisis spots and establish cooperation on nuclear non-proliferation and global security.
>What those 'joint efforts' might be is not specified.
>With just 227 words the U.S. readout is much shorter. There is much less on Ukraine. A whole one fourth of the readout is with concern to the Middle East:
< The leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.
>Iran, not mentioned by the Russian's, is mentioned in the context of nuclear ('strategic') weapons.
>Iran seems to be the next item on Trump's international meddling list.
>Recently leaked documents point to major U.S. planning for a war with Iran. The suddenly renewed U.S. bombing of Yemen, despite no recent attacks by Ansarallah on international shipping, seem to be a provocation towards that:
< Tehran has begun circling the wagons as a new phase is beginning in Trump’s foreign policies, with tensions rising steadily over the nuclear issue. The October deadline is drawing closer by the day for invoking the snapback clause in the JCPOA (2015 Iran nuclear deal) to reinstate UN Security Council sanctions will expire, and Iran’s enrichment programme, on the other hand, has apparently reached a point where it already has a stockpile to make “several” nuclear bombs, per the International Atomic Energy Agency.
>Iran however has Russian and Chinese backing:
< On March 14, China’s foreign minister Wang Yi hosted a joint meeting in Beijing with the Russian and Iranian deputy foreign ministers where he proposed five points “on the proper settlement of the Iranian nuclear issue”, which, for all purposes endorsed Tehran’s stance. It was a resounding diplomatic victory for Iran.
< Interestingly, the Beijing meeting was timed to coincide with the conclusion of a 6-day naval exercise at Iran’s Chabahar Port with the theme of Creating Peace and Security Together between the navies of Iran, Russia and China. …
< Moscow has lately waded into the Iran nuclear issue and is positioning itself for a mediatory role potentially. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov recently came out against attaching extraneous issues (eg., verifiable arrangements by Tehran to ensure the cessation of its support for resistance groups in Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria) to the nuclear negotiations. Lavrov said frankly, “Such a thing is unlikely to yield results.”
>Before the renewed bombing of Yemen Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Foreign Minister of Russia Sergei Lavrov had their own phone call. The short U.S. readout said:
< The Secretary informed Russia of U.S. military deterrence operations against the Iran-backed Houthis and emphasized that continued Houthi attacks on U.S. military and commercial shipping vessels in the Red Sea will not be tolerated.
>It did not mention that Russia spoke out against it:
< The Russian Foreign Ministry, in a readout on Saturday, stated that US Secretary of State Marco Rubio called Lavrov and informed him about the US decision to attack the Houthis. It said Lavrov, in response, “emphasised the need for an immediate cessation of the use of force and the importance of all parties engaging in political dialogue to find a solution that prevents further bloodshed.” Well, the shoe is on the other foot now, isn’t it?
>Trump seems to believe that he can gain Russia's support, or at least its neutrality, in a futile conflict with Iran, by offering to end the U.S. proxy war in Ukraine.
>Russia however seems to completely reject such plans.https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/03/trump-seeks-russian-support-for-war-on-iran.html >>2193801just learned denmark means danish mark where mark is march which means border too
lots of krains in former yugo
>>2193943Her grandpa was a "communist"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siim_KallasNote how this reformer has immediately went on the board of directors of the state bank of Estonia. It's transparent as fuck why did they want to reform away from communism
>>2193240I just like aircraft and naval tech, most of my (limited) knowledge is from military books and former NVA/Volksmarine guys.
If you're into tanks i think Jochen Vollert of Tankograd publishing has a decent collection of resources. You don't need to rely on old Warszaw pact sources for specs really, a lot of western military publishers are decent sources on MiGs etc. too. The key is to get books that deal with tech and avoid western "historians", including retired NATO personnel who tend to be butthurt /k/opers.
>>2194163Misread this as
>If only he had the foreskin to apply it to Ukraine.and giggled a little
>>2194173>Why?Don't listen to the other guy. Strelkov lost power quickly because he led the separatists into a dead end by thinking Russian Spring could be turned into a Novorossia project via Donbass. The seps were at war by themselves without Russian support outside of hospitals and permission to train/form new units across the border, signaling Strelkov went ahead of Russia and locals alike to meet the Avakov's ATO deadline head-on in Slavyansk. Once it became clear there would be no Novorossia or Russian intervention, he was doomed. At this point, a power vacuum formed and infighting among leaders unfolded, Donbass was poorly governed, and the war was quickly being lost as ground was lost up until Donetsk - which UA couldn't storm only shell. It required Russia through Zakharchenko to suppress infighting at the same time it was being forced to intervene in the ATO and halt the AFU. This anarchy also allowed the SBU to conduct assassinations of people like Givi, as we later learned.
It's this cycle and how it evidences things getting out of control and escalating on their own that is ultimately what forces Merkel to broach Minsk, at least in my opinion. It was obvious Putin was being drawn in beyond the counterbalancing step of the Crimea referendum due to how annexation exposed how deeply Ukraine was polarized. It drove unrest in the south/east while Kiev accelerated its post-Feb 21 monopolization of power under west Ukrainian parties and figures.
The entire affair is proof, contra post-2022 propaganda, that the war in Donbass was not caused by Russia and it wanted the Minsk process to reintegrate Donbass. The war was caused by events after Feb 21 and Crimea annexation taking their own course beyond the immediate escalations of governments in DC, Kiev, or Moscow. You had spontaneous, advanced elements taking the obvious next step forward. Nazis were already fighting the ATO during Russian spring, separatists and ex-intelligence figures like Strelkov were already ready to jump past elections, negotiated transfer of power from Yanukovych, autonomy protests and negotiations, and everything else that broke down at that point.
Basically, sides congealed and formed. Not all the lines they met at were formed by state actors. There was mass polarization and unrest outside of states that hardliners in each movement acted ahead of. Strelkov's contributions were pivotal but awkward in the end.
There's something similar to be said about 2021 NATOization of Ukraine and Russian counter-demands. I don't believe the attempt to subvert Minsk and have an international confrontation over Ukraine's claims to Donbass/Crimea as the first step to peace, rather than autonomy and halted NATO expansion, was meant to conclude in this war. 2021 just emboldened Ukraine, EU, and DC as a moment of strength after years of growing weakness. The jubilee, hubris, and excitement for confrontation meant slipping into a war that went beyond what was envisioned including by Putin.
>>2194270Well naturally they're just trying to prevent a ceasefire because, if the RAND report about "over-extending" Russia is to be believed as the theory that underpins this otherwise suicidal conflict, then victory is achieved simply by Russia eventually running out of money and therefore willpower to retain its unity and collapsing 1991 style.
Ukraine is pretty much spent in all other ways but the drones do provide enough of a counterbalance that the conflict is difficult to finish without incurring very large Russian losses (which in the given theory, presumably this leads to exploitable discontent that can collapse Russia), the alternatives for Russia are either continuing the conflict in perpetuity until the money runs out or agreeing to some kind of unsatisfactory peace agreement that again could result in an exploitable discontentment again (partially inflamed by cucktin posters globally. Yes, unironically).
From this perspective, the theory has clearly underestimated Russia's finances and the zeal of Russians more broadly, but it hasn't been disproven yet because Russia clearly still hasn't actually been "over-extended" yet and thus victory is still as possible as it was at the start of the SMO.
>>2194332>Russian wannabe porkies were the ones who destroyed the USSRI'm sure the current crop of Russian bourgeoisie running the state aren't weeping over the illegal dissolution of the USSR, but I don't think this is strictly true because the nationalist, liberal, wannabe porkies from the 90s (i.e Yeltsin and his faction) were massively discredited by the idea that dissolving the USSR and practically letting western political and economic analysts rebuild a capitalist state for them would make Russia both stronger than even the USSR at its peak and an ally of the US being obviously wrong and achieving neither of those goals. Where exactly the current Russian state originates I'm not entirely sure, but Yeltsin already had to fire a tank at the Russian white house to wrestle control from naysayers, only to then use his absolute power to consistently make extremely poor choices that only weakened Russia and benefited Washington/NATO before he was finally usurped. So it's doubtful that the ideology of the modern Russian state is identical to that of the liberal nationalists who threw down their Lenin badges the second Perestroika was put into action.
>There is no reason to believe that it was ever in the west's power to seriously affect Russia.The theory is just a very basic bitch interpretation of how the Cold War was won interwoven with US bitterness over how poorly the War on Terror went for them. Grayzone recently had an article describing the different plans the US and NATO came up with for this tactic of "outlasting" Russia and it essentially is training Ukrainian dispora with Stingers and Javelin missiles a la the Mujahedeen in the 1980s against the USSR, combined with utilising IEDs that cause the US such headaches in the 2000s but "modernised" to be "smarter" with more sophisticated and computerised fuses and strapping them to drones.
Since both the War in Afghanistan for the USSR and the War on Terror were both hugely expensive, hugely unpopular (by the end for the latter anyway) and hugely unsuccessful military escapades, you can see how they thought putting Russia essentially through both conflicts at the same time would work in over-extend the Russian state and military.
>>2194467you are wrong
He
>>2194421 is right
>>2194379that's the correct take
It's hilarious all these people who believe that the USA has absolutely no interests in the Middle East and they would never send Americans to die in Iraq or Afghanistan had it not been under Israel's orders.
The whole country of Israel is effectively one big American military base and its 10milion or so people are effectively 10 million agents for American interests
>>2194472The negatives outweigh the positives for America being present there and have since before the invasion of Iraq.
Sure the "Israel rules the West" narrative is imbecillic but America backing them is definitely an error. Not a necessity.
>>2194487exactly
when I say 'American interests', I mean the interests of the rich fucks who are cucking the American people
>>2194495>cucking the American peopleWell…
They are into it…
>inb4 Marx Cuck Quote >>2194502lmao they even have statistics of it
400% increase in a decade, these cuckold porn studios are much better at propaganda than us Marxists will ever be lol
>>2194517I have to confess. I have fallen for cuckold porn.
It's so fucking hot.
Even though I'm religious I just cant help and beg God for an exception.
It's just SO FUCKING HOT seeing a hung masculine black bull pump his potent african seed inside my busty blonde wife.
Him on top of her in a mating press position, I would go behind them and videotape it with a 4k slo-mo camera.
I love watching his lemon sized testicles go up and down, counting the pulsations of his urethra as gooey spurts of that liquid white gold are unloaded into my wife.
I legally made my wife's bull her male concubine so he is her personal sex slave and breeder.
I had both my wife and her bull take fertility treatments so conception would be easier.
I didn't have sex with my wife for 2 months so I can be sure DEQUANALDO is the impregnator.
My wife had Dequanaldo regularly creampie her rectum to get her body used to his seed.
She also regularly drank his viscous semen to prevent any miscarriages.
Her body is flooded with his hormones.
Dequanaldo accumulated cum by not ejaculating for a week to ensure a hefty cumload for my wife.
I'm so excited for him to impregnate my wife.
I cannot wait to stand behind my wife and rub her belly, knowing a little biracial bundle of joy is growing in my wife's womb.
HOW CAN THIS BE A SIN GODDAMMIT????
GOD WHY DID YOU CURSE ME WITH THESE DESIRES???
I WISH I WAS BORN A HOMOFAG INSTEAD. (not really)
GOD PLEASE BLESS MY CUCKOLD FETISH.
I'm not gay.
I'm Mormon.
>>2194527Is this you?
>>2194524>>2194525Also,
>I'm not gay.>I'm Mormon.
<Picrel >>2194527shit post but impressive vocabulary
I learned a few new words today
>>2194538>>2194535>>2194534>>2194527The logical and sad conclusion of putin supporters.
Lesson for you ziggers:
>Stop supporting cucktin or else you will become this guy. >>2194574This is the only thing I can think of.
https://t.me/OstashkoNews/173479Some russian 64 year old lady was arrested for writing 24000 messages in support of ukraine.
Nothing else really.
>>2194579should have stopped at 23999 messages
rookie mistake
>>2194591I don't think that would help kek
>>2194588Every single day now nothing new
>>2194619This is only the end of the beginning…
Of Hotel CaliUkraine
>>2194273The idea that the USSR died because it ran out of money competing with the US or just due to economic problems is pure US propaganda. The USSR died because the party elite could not go on without change and the opportunists and capitalist roaders won the struggle over the “democratic socialists” and what was left of the Marxist-Leninists. And they could only do this due to the outbreak of nationalist revolutions. It was a classic Leninist revolutionary situation.
The government of the Russian Federation is simply not divided to any significant degree by competing factions, and there is not great discontent amongst the masses. Most of the non-Russian ethnicities in the RF understand they are better off staying in. Thats why the Russian Nazis are mostly fighting for Ukraine against Putin the great multiculturalist.
>>2195103And MANPAD turrents on every soldiers head. those fucking drones changed warfare. They changed the laws of military physics. No longer is there such a thing a "trajectory". Now explosives are part-helicopter, part artillery shell. And nobody thought about this because in the head of GLORIOUS russian military aKADEMIY staff, drones will either get shut down by EW or the fiber optic cable will get snagged on some tree. And it's not the way of the samurai in general.
Military fucks are the most conservative motherfuckingpieces of shit on the planet. Nobody wants to go into the military unless they zombowashed by the TV or are complete dumbasses.
Those who do want to go into the military want to have their own volunteer units where there isin't a rigid power structure and you can do your own thing and nobody yells at you.
The military is the primary source of faggotry and consequently aggressive homophobia within the post-soviet era. Too many men were raped up their asses from hazing. It's fucking ridiculous archaic nonsense created by old communist grandpas who knew nobody would voluntarily join the fucking army because everyone knows they will get abused there.
Also, same shit in the US military. Those imbeciles love fucking screaming. Stupid faggots.
I hate military fuckers.
>>2195102Drones are not dissimilar to already existing weaponry like mortars and rpgs. Idiots think that drones are gamechangers solely because of videos. Obviously drones are better, but not transformatively so. All those fancy javelins and nlaws were like this anyway, a fancy missile that shoots out streams at weird angles to hit vehicles.
Military strategy guides FOR every country requires 500 men per 1 km of frontline per layer, or something similar. Neither side has such numbers on the frontlines, and that's due to prohibitive cost of supplying such quantities of personnel. It'd have to be 30 km long truck queues for 20k large group like there was in Kiev, it's just not feasible without huge breakthrough in strategy/logistics in the future
This also means that armored fists have a good chance of breaking through because of lack of enemy resistance - but then they get stuck in enemy's rear because you can't bring your own resupplies to enemy's rear
Personally, I'm waiting for idiotic Westoid force stacked to the top with drones to get annihilated by less advanced but composed by the strategy books military
>>2195114>military brainlet copeHellow There its me Again
Andrei Martyanov (fucking imbecile)
>>2195110Nonsense. Artillery is still the biggest source of casualties. Mines are still what is stopping enemy vehicles. Mortars and rpgs are still goto weapons for attacking enemy positions by infantry. Drones are a mix of mortars and rpgs, and don't provide higher mortality whatsoever. They are just more convenient and universal
>>2195116/k/ope more, fpvtard. You can't have big arrows without sufficient amount of troops on the frontline, that's just physically impossible. When Russia had such amounts of troops, Russia broke through straight to Kiev and past Kharkov and wherever else, and no drone harass stopped them despite lack of EW and specific countermeasures at the time. In fact, bayraktars were shut down permanently back then
>>2195114>All those fancy javelins and nlaws were like this anywayAt the cost of a single javelin you can buy a couple hundred FPV drones, which are more versatile.
>Mortars and rpgs are still goto weapons for attacking enemy positions by infantryGuess how they're spotting for mortars.
>>2195119>At the cost of a single javelin you can buy a couple hundred FPV drones, which are more versatile.Yes. This doesn't make drones gamechangers, though, just lifts poor militaries upwards. It's a better use for money than degenerate overengineered rpgs.
>Guess how they're spotting for mortars.Not a gamechanger either. Besides, you don't spot for mortars, you shoot at a square with specific settings. That's why mortars are infantry weapons, and not artillery - you don't require precise spotters
>>2195121Look it's kind of silly to deny the efficacy of small drones when they objectively keep Ukraine fighting against a force with overwhelming advantage in everything else including artillery and air support. People who say that we should ditch everything else and turn the military into a light infantry force armed with wunderwaffle FPVs are dumb, but you're taking it too far in the other direction.
>you don't spot for mortars, you shoot at a square with specific settingsSpotting makes them several times more effective. Are you saying extra accuracy doesn't matter?
>>2195129You think mortar teams are cybernetically connected to drone eyes in the skies? What the fuck are you smoking
Drone spotting boils down to shouting to infantrymen in the trenches of where to shoot and where to go. There are videos with that. It's stupid, in a real military this nonsense is replaced with ENOUGH SOLDIERS TO DO A SWEEP PROPERLY
It all boils down to lack of troops on the frontlines. There's not enough men to carry out strategies by the book. Hence, ad hoc drone nonsense. That's fucking it, that's the drone efficacy
>>2195187Mortar are infantry weapons, same as grenades and rpgs and machine guns. It's imprecise close to the enemy weaponry that's supposed to be mass "shoot and forget" kind of a thing. You shouldn't care about making sure that the enemy was hit, you just throw another charge to make sure
Whenever you play those kinds of shooters, if there is endless supply of grenades and the like, it just turns into explosions everywhere. You don't fucking need spotters for such a weaponry
>>2195221A horrific achievement in Neoliberalism successfully divorcing economics from any degree democratic participatory politics. Only for obviously continuing externalities of production to continue the alienation a populace that now cant materially articulate its own immiseration; anchoring politics around the only dividing experiences still understood in college, culture and politician-as-celebrity.
An ironic 40 year boomerang where neoliberal technocrats downsize the intervenient state and outsourced economic decision making to independent financial institutions to 'purify' market interests off any mass political pressure, only for the 'downsizing' logic to come for the technocracy itself as the sum alienation produces a culture war poisoned political project that creates a vertically parallel austerity agency named after an internet dog begins cannibalising your own management because of 'woke'.
I think we're finally seeing the beginning of the negation of culture war poltics as it has finally seized (to a degree) actual material power, inevitably creating severe friction against economic reality that will punish its schizo assumptions with discrediting failure. Going to be a long way down though.
>>2195374 (me)
*interventionist state
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