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How is the taliban of some resistance that I should look at positively or not despise? How do you look at these things and bend yourself into a pretzel justifying it because america is bad?

Not asking America to invade this hell but why should these people being given any leniency or understanding when they make people live in these retarded ways?

If you think this post is actually cia propaganda and Taliban dosen't do things like this at all then show me. If you want to make some noble savage argument that they are a unique culture and we can't relate to these decisions or judge them because we are westerners then kys

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241229-taliban-leader-bans-windows-overlooking-women-s-area
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/22/middleeast/taliban-law-women-voices-intl-latam/index.html
149 posts and 9 image replies omitted.

>>2244410
You are the non marxist for ignoring how everytime communists form a front together with islamists, the islamists end up as sole rulers and annihilate every bit of communism to rule as medieval fascists
May some neo-ISIS sell your ass in a sex slave market you fucking moron

America bad. Simple as.

>>2244442
So is the Taliban

Islamist are not good

>>2196866
The Taliban (as a movement) has to be understood within its historical and cultural context. The kneejerk reaction to the Taliban is that they are obviously wrong without understanding the rationale for their beliefs and policies. This isn't so much an endorsement of the Taliban, more pointing out that demonizing them doesn't help in understanding them at all. Do you really think a society that was invaded twice in 40 years and each time the invaders used "liberating women" and "women's rights" as a stick to intervene would react by embracing feminist politics? Very few people seem to understand the Taliban and what their ideas consist of, but everyone's perfectly happy to make them out as if they are the ultimate evil. The Taliban didn't nuke Nagasaki or carry out the Holocaust.

When it comes to Westerners judging the Taliban, I'd really like to know what moral standard are we using? How fallible is it? Are Afghans free to reject those moral standards? Often the demand to condemn the Taliban (and Hamas too) looks a lot like 19th century Europeans complaining about how brutal and savage Africans or native Papuans are and why they shouldn't be allowed to rule themselves.

>>2196873
>no amount of top-down social engineering circlejerk by a bunch of liberal NGOs within the city limits of Kabul and their pet projects will have any lasting effect on country-level women's rights.
What was more telling was the way many rural Afghan women seemed to be disinterested in liberal NGOs and their women's rights agenda and how many of them even supported the Taliban's insurgency against the US.

Progressives, including leftists, are often extremely conceited and blind to the fact that what they see as good or desirable for women is simply the product of their own worldview. We treat liberty as a natural ideal, but Nietzsche pointed out that it was an idea of the ruling class and not natural at all. Progressives and leftists assumed in 2001 that with the fall of the Taliban, women would cast off their burkas and embrace their new found rights, yet the vast majority of Afghan women did not behave this way. It also created a massive backlash because many ordinary Afghans understandably associated women's rights and feminism with neocolonial occupation.

>>2244465
hamas is going to rape your ass

>>2244473
They will have to throw themselves from a rooftop if they fuck a man in the ass

>>2244466
The taliban is the tribal backward reaction to progressive measures implemented after the Saur revolution, with heavy islamic doping from Saudi and Pakistani religious nuts. Thats your historio socio politico culturo word salado. They are our ennemies. We are simply happy they yeeted america away, butwe will never cheerlead for backward anti ocmmunist islamist. They can have fun smoking opiods and fucking their mountain goats for all i care. Communists must drop this hippy bullshit attitude towards sworn ennemies who deserve to be killed in the thousands.

>>2244473
Too far away from me

>>2244466
This is the same argument people use for why countries that are sanctioned don't support LGBT yet Cuba with 64 years of sanctions support abortion rights and even trans rights at a higher level than many western countries

Your argument falls apart fast.

>>2244466
>Are Afghans free to reject those moral standards?

Putting women in literal trash bag outfits? The Quran doesn't even request anything beyond covering hair. You are the same retard in the other thread defending qutb a fucking Islamist who supported jihad and inspired terrorist. You need to get off this forum and stop trying to shill for islamism here.

>>2244482
Exactly

>>2244482
>Communists must
shut the fuck up already, literally 10% of the posts on this site are retarded pol reprobates coming in here to concern troll and false flag while using this idealist patronizing language, as if anyone would fall for this shit, its obvious you have no idea what communism is and have no interests here beyond "convincing" us of our """sworn enemies"""" you fucking larper

>>2244482
The Taliban didn't exist in the 80s. They aren't a tribe. And their religious views don't align with the Saudis, something al-Qaeda rank and file complained about in the 90s.

>>2244492
But Cuba and Afghanistan a massively different. There are different historical and material conditions at play. Its not simply an issue of ideology.

>>2244496
Your going off the basis that women don't like being made to wear "trash bag outfits" and if we go by the conventions of American and European or Japanese women, that's certainly correct. But Afghan women, especially rural Afghan women, do not share those beliefs. Burkas are just an accepted and ordinary part of many rural women's dress.

I don't see anyone shilling Islamism here. It just seems a lot of anons here can't read and their response when they fail at argument is to poison the well and accuse their opponent of being X or Y boogeyman.

>>2244515
You are being purposefully pedantic and dishonest. Fuck you.

>>2244506
Oh so fanatical religious reactionary are not our enemies?!? What kinda communism are you into? The one where Marx, the Pope and Metternich are best friends?!

>>2244521
raped by hamas
>>2244528
raped by hamas

>>2244529
keep your weird sexual fantasies for yourself please

>>2244532
raped by hamas

In many ways, leftypol shares a lot in common with the Taliban. You're both made up of extremely fixated people who have very fixed dogmas which you hold. You both have this belief you're a beleaguered minority who knows the truth and you've stayed true to the canon unlike the nasty revisionist soc dems. Both Taliban supporters and leftypol users love to live in a self imposed bubble too and denounce anyone who disagrees with them as obviously wrong, CIA or (when their sophistry fails) accuse them of being pedantic and using fancy words "i don't understand therefore you are wrong"

Why are there so many fed circa early-2000's threads on Islam?
Does some right winger actually think this is praxis?

>>2244528
does marx use the phrase "sworn enemies" because that sounds like a state department quote

im sick and tired of this fucking rightists coming in here, and telling us how we should be communists, and that just so happens to conspicuously align more with their own views, im fucking tired of them feigning ignorance like anyone with a single digit i.q. wouldn't see them for the retards they are. americans should be deported to afghanistan and forced to become a talibans bachi bazi so they can see just what islamism is all about and how they caused it.

>>2244544
did marx use leftypol you fucking retard? are we Prussians living in the 19th century?!

>>2244551
they piss me off man
Another reason why I grew allergic to 'muh intersectionality' . Turns out it's always communists diluting (sometimes even betraying) their position to accommodate for the "allies" and to uphold solidarity. But the opposite never happens, when the communist needs support from his "allies", they will be the first to piss on him.
There is no brotherhood with the islamists because they will exterminate communists at the first chance they get.

>>2244543
because Islamic propaganda and islamic demands are increasing day by day and people (including old 'allies' like myself) are growing sick of it and we can see where this will inevitably end

Who cares? Whats islam gonna do? Abolish wage labour?

>>2244560
Is it the Saudi's like in Network 1976?
"Am mad as hell and not going to take it any more!"
Good movie, you should give it a watch anon.

>>2244566
I have never seen a jew in real life ever, sir.
Not everyone you disagree with is a jew.

>>2244569
islam will abolish those who want to abolish wage labour. Truly, the negation of the negation, mashaallah

>>2244576
happy to have helped the brave Hamas fighters relieve some of their stress

>>2244574
So, nothing ever happens then

>>2244570
will check it out Yugokomrad

>>2244579
chuds ended history, yes

>>2244640
Islamic economics is based on the labor theory of value

>>2244553
You're just mad your transparent shibboleth exposed you to everyone you as a retarded poltard. Next time try to be a little less enthusiastic about killing Arabs, sweaty

>>2196873
>economic and the advancement of material conditions
But women got rights in the west as a direct result of terrible economic and material conditions as the wars required all the men and women were forced into the workforce.

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>>2197142
I don't think so. The US has never re-invaded a country once it lost it. If they didn't do it to Cuba and North Korea in 1991 then I don't see why they would do it to Afghanistan now.

>>2244704
Please.
Please can we start making our own soyjak variants.
I'm tired of the same photo being used again and again across the board.
Soyjaks are not banned here.
We can trace or get templates from soybooru and make our own Jarty hanging jaks, Meximutt jaks, anything you want, just get some variety.
Please.

>>2196866
I would say there is progressive national liberation (Rojava) and reactionary national liberation (Taleban).

>>2244847
Russia is also a progressive

>>2244661
women could be forced into the workforce because of industrialization. women didn't get rights when men went to war before capitalism for a reason, and even then it was only a response to the bolsheviks doing it first

>>2244847
>zionist ethnonationalists
>progressive

HAHAHAHAHAHA

come mr taliban, tally me bananas

>>2244656
Afghan talibans are not arabs you retard

I think rojava bad because transhumanists support it

>>2244954
>still pushing the rojava is zionist meme in 2025

>>2196998
didn't they fought the soviets though

>>2196959
maoist retards fought alongside the mujahideen
opinion rejected


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