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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Fuck Debord, Deleuze, Guattari, Adorno, Zizek, all the Frankfurt school, all other postmodernist, critical theory, all these indecipherable philosophers. I despise these social fascist lickspittles. Why are they even considered remotely socialist? It's like they didn't take a single lesson from The German Ideology, they read Marx encyclopedically but don't even pay attention to what he's saying! All they see is the long winded style of writing he inherited from Hegel and replicate that rather than spending a moment to realize that their philosophy is useless. Like liberals they pick out a few 'radical' sounding things and ignore the real work on political economy!

Their understanding of socialism is completely liberal because it is just taking the aesthetics and going 'Well, they had some good points. But I think we need a new way'. Liberal scum. Always they end up supporting NATO and social democracy, or they become ridiculous anarchists. The post-modernists have had a terrible effect on socialism. It is the ideology of neoliberal capitalism, incompatible with Marxism and communism. Post modernists need their delusions beaten out of them to show that the real world does have meaning. Postism is completely rubbish. All 'posts' are ridiculous theories, that included Post-colonialism. Fundementally they are bourgeois, because it is rejecting real progress.

All these lickspittles say is the most radical things ever. "Let's abolish capitalism and all exploitation! Let's abolish time! Let's abolish the current way we see the world!". But then they don't do anything about it! And lots of what they are asking for and conflating with the class struggle is ridiculous like paedophilia and time abolishing. These ones are the ideological fault for postisms and identity politics becoming such a big thing. Nobody real can read their work. Even Marx tried to make his work readable even though at times it is difficult. But they revel in how complex and difficult it is. This is for a reason - their audience is the petit-bourgeois, not the working class.


There has never been a good philosopher. Hegel might have been useful to Marx, but once Marx transcended him he should never be read (Lenin is wrong on this). The only real philosophers are the ones who are working in the struggle. The fascists should be ostracised and their books burned. I despise them and I am angered whenever I hear one of their evil names.

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>Fuck Debord, Deleuze, Guattari, Adorno, Zizek, all the Frankfurt school, all other postmodernist, critical theory, all these indecipherable philosophers. I despise these social fascist lickspittles. Why are they even considered remotely socialist? It's like they didn't take a single lesson from The German Ideology, they read Marx encyclopedically but don't even pay attention to what he's saying! All they see is the long winded style of writing he inherited from Hegel and replicate that rather than spending a moment to realize that their philosophy is useless. Like liberals they pick out a few 'radical' sounding things and ignore the real work on political economy!

>Their understanding of socialism is completely liberal because it is just taking the aesthetics and going 'Well, they had some good points. But I think we need a new way'. Liberal scum. Always they end up supporting NATO and social democracy, or they become ridiculous anarchists. The post-modernists have had a terrible effect on socialism. It is the ideology of neoliberal capitalism, incompatible with Marxism and communism. Post modernists need their delusions beaten out of them to show that the real world does have meaning. Postism is completely rubbish. All 'posts' are ridiculous theories, that included Post-colonialism. Fundementally they are bourgeois, because it is rejecting real progress.


>All these lickspittles say is the most radical things ever. "Let's abolish capitalism and all exploitation! Let's abolish time! Let's abolish the current way we see the world!". But then they don't do anything about it! And lots of what they are asking for and conflating with the class struggle is ridiculous like paedophilia and time abolishing. These ones are the ideological fault for postisms and identity politics becoming such a big thing. Nobody real can read their work. Even Marx tried to make his work readable even though at times it is difficult. But they revel in how complex and difficult it is. This is for a reason - their audience is the petit-bourgeois, not the working class.



>There has never been a good philosopher. Hegel might have been useful to Marx, but once Marx transcended him he should never be read (Lenin is wrong on this). The only real philosophers are the ones who are working in the struggle. The fascists should be ostracised and their books burned. I despise them and I am angered whenever I hear one of their evil names.

>>2242664
What is that meant to mean

>t:degen popular culture consumer

>>2242693
This is more contempt for the masses. Jazz is very good music technically and it sounds goot to listen to. But these stuck up twats have to say its all bad because its made by black people. Racist white fuck. I'm saying this as someone who hates pop and rap music but I'm not going to say its fascist, just that its bad. This is what I mean, they only care about culture, pathologising everything like that.

>>2242658
This might be true for the cia-funded pomo shit, but from my admittedly incomplete knowledge of situationism and various post-structuralists, they mostly follow marx in investigating specific aspects of social production: the culture industry, desiring production, the absolute state of ideology, etc.

You're right that the praxis manifesting from these currents has remained minimal, yet i would argue it is a feature of the territory. Many aspects of the current superstructure are as total as to make opposing them seem futile, still i think being aware of them is helpful to a point. This is also why these matters won't surface often outside of theoretical discussions, how would you know if one of your party members read D&G in their free time?

>"what the fuck? philosophy is bullshit and completely meaningless!… could it be that it's all ideology?… mmmmhhh ah I see now! it must be because it's EVIL BOURGEOIS philosophy and not the PEOPLE'S CLASS STRUGGLE PROLETARIAN philosophy such as dickshittical materialism which is definitely scientific and definitely very useful as a tool for analysing anything in the world!
heh… this'll show those EVIL (definitely not a moral-philosophical attribute) philosophers!"

>>2242722
t. althusser

>>2242658
Did you read them? I bet you didnt

>>2242787
I tried reading Adorno but stopped when he said that Marxism is wrong. I don't have time to read liberals when there is Marxist material I have not read. As for Zizek I have watched loads of videos obviously.

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>>2242658
truthnuke

I approve this post

>>2242836
how about actually read next time, retard

>>2242707
>>2242658
you write like a teenager

>>2243108
don't larp a communist if you cannot handle the truth

>>2243112
didnt even say anything about the content i said they write like a teenager

>le frankfurt skool of witchcraft and wizarddry
The logic of capitalism worms its way into everything, and it's important to understand how it poisons our minds and culture, because otherwise we run the risk of reproducing capitalist relations due to these biases even after we overthrow the current capitalist order.

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>>2242658
>All these lickspittles say is the most radical things ever. Let's abolish time!


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They are just intellectuals doing intellectual stuff. If they were firebrand revolutionaries they wouldn't even be allowed to teach in the universities

>>2242658
Queer satanic shit

>>2244018
Intellectuals? More like social parasites.
Liberal Arts colleges must be closed forever. Go to university to study medecine, engineering, pure science, or learn a trade like metalworking or woodworking. Assholes who cant even draw a circle and a square should not be lecturing the productive worker about anything. We do not need a brahmin caste.

>>2242658
Postmodernity is a condition, not an ideology. You cannot bring modernism back and, if by some miracle you did, it would be the most postmodern thing imaginable.

You are in a sea of piss. Do you want to swim in the piss, or drown in it? "I want to swim in the water!" is no longer an option.

>>2244054
Quads of Trvth

Those guys are too high I.Q to me, I tried to read Adorno and got filtered.

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As someone for whom Debord was my introduction to Marxism, I find your post funny, how you throw different thinkers within the same basket like this, especially as Debord didn't like or cared about any of the other ones you've mentioned.
>Always they end up supporting NATO and social democracy, or they become ridiculous anarchists.
You have never read chapter 4 of the SotS, I can tell it immediately.

It's especially funny coming from a Sendero Luminoso flag. You are the kind of Marxist who will join a tiny ideologically-pure sect nobody gives a shit about to read basic Leninist texts and LARP as the savers of the proletariat, while doing nothing and eventually burn out like all the others like you did before.
You are just as removed from the mindset of the common workers we see in the streets, as much as the pretentious philosophy grad students you are seething about, if not more. Because your post is truly about the crowd wanking about "critical theory", not these thinkers you haven't read.
But you aren't better than them. Nobody wants to hear about how Glorious Chairman Gonzalo didn't actually boil babies. Nobody gives a shit outside of Peru, and I'm willing to bet Gonzalo isn't terribly popular within Peru. So as you can see, you are some kind of hipster too, with a 2edgy4u special snowflake ideology that have never been proved to be effective in the real world.

You can talk about "the tyranny of the clock" instead of "the abolition of time", and it will make sense to everyone who has a job.
Even if "the abolition of time" is an edgy and scary turn of phrase, there is a necessity to talk about such subjects sometimes, because as you may know, value in capitalism is measured in social necessary labour time. If we want to be done away with capitalism, we need to envision something beyond value.

I'm starting to think MLs like you are deeply uncomfortable with such subjects, because they don't want to realize there is something very radical and kinda utopian (in a positive sense, not in the sense of making crazy elaborate plans like Charles Fourier did) within Marx's thought.
It's not about having a bureaucratic state that calls itself "proletarian" while living from the exploitation of workers, just like the previous bourgeois state. That might be the first step, but we aren't supposed to stop at this step at all, there is a "higher stage of communism" to be attained in the whole story.

Debord and the situationists had an answer to this: workers' councils.
Btw, Debord and the situationists also influenced autonomists in Europe, perhaps the only radicals actually doing something here, even if they can be extremely insufferable: they open squats for homeless people, organize serious protests and events, give away food, etc.
The answer of people who post with Sendero Luminoso flags is "let's critically support this third-world bourgeois state from the comfort of our home, because they are anti-imperialist", the magic word.

So really, do you think your position warrant such hatred for other comrades? I think you should rather learn and open a book from time to time, and maybe then you will be in a good position to ruthlessly critique them, because so far it seems like you are mostly pissed off at some smug left-Twitter people after losing an argument.

>>2244087
good post

>>2244087
>Debord was my introduction to Marxism
AHAHAHAH

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>The patronizing and errant lecturing of our so-called intellectuals seems to me a far greater impediment. We are still in need of technicians, agronomists, engineers, chemists, architects, etc., it is true, but if the worst comes to the worst we can always buy them just as well as the capitalists buy them, and if a severe example is made of a few of the traders among them — for traders there are sure to be — they will find it to their own advantage to deal fairly with us. But apart from the specialists, among whom I also include schoolteachers, we can get along perfectly well without the other “intellectuals.” The present influx of literati and students into the party, for example, may be quite damaging if these gentlemen are not properly kept in check.
>The biggest obstacles are the small peasants and the importunate super-clever intellectuals who always think they know everything so much the better, the less they understand it.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_21.htm

>>2242693
this is the only reason people read this garbage tbh, to make funney referential memes on social media


>>2244087
Do you want to know the actual reason I despise Debord? Because all the fucking 'radicals' in my country are autonomists or anarchists influenced by him. They have been brainwashed by this pathetic petit-bourgeois ideology that is all about personal liberation and NOTHING about actually seizing power! Autonomists are doing something? What does doing something mean? All anarchists do is make communes or squats, it is easy mode. This is why working class people become anarchists (its obvious why the petit-bourgeois do), its because the end goal is just the liberation of one building. Anarchism in one homeless camp. It's easy and anyone can do it and it is useless. By the way I say this as someone who works with anarchists 24/7 (because they are the only ones doing street action), and I am friends with many individually, but they are all fucking stupid when it comes to ideology and long term plans, and just treat politics as a lifestyle.

Situationism is ridiculous. Wow we're going to destroy capitalism by destroying some adverts! By spray painting some weird shit we will break their conditioning! It will snap people out of it like the matrix! Same shit as right wing conspiracy wankers. Get real. Instead of doing the really fucking hard work of making a party and overthrowing the government, its all just about personal action. What an infantile ideology.

You think that a bureaucratic state is the endgame for MLs? That's a more ridiculous assertion than anything I have said in this thread by far. Anyway I'm not even an ML, Maoism is not Marxism-Leninism and we had a split with it. Nobody even posts with the PCP flag except for me lmao, and I don't support any bourgeois states, I especially don't support Cuba or the DPRK. It sounds like an Anarkkkidie might be mad that their idiotic ideology has been exposed as the intellectual masturbation that it is.

>>2244048
Absolutely English, Philosophy, Psychology, Music, do not need to be degrees. At the same time STEM subjects need to be reformed. The teaching is very bad for them and they don't teach the students how to think. But maybe there can be other institutions for that.

>>2242658
What is your beef with deleuze, uygha?

>>2242658
Why are you angry at Deleuze? You didnt even read him

>critical theory is… LE BAD

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>>2244441
You're jumping the gun by making a party or by seeing a party as the next thing to work on. Every single communist party outside extant ML states in the developing world (+China) is by any reasonable standard a dismal failure. If anarchism is intellectual masturbation, 95% of communism is LARP. 0% of governments have been overthrown by LARPers.

For a party to have any reason to exist, class consciousness needs to be at the level where it can sustain a party. You want to be looking at realistic next steps - trade and tenant unions, weird little specific organizations for a specific purpose, shit that's a bit more organized than anarchists squatting a building, but which is still incredibly decentralized and disorganized compared to a democratic centralist party. All of this is boring and tedious work, but you can't skip to the fun bit. (I suspect you, personally, know this already, but I've gotta spell it out for everyone else) If you try to skip building class consciousness and jump straight to starting a party, or - jesus fucking christ no - try to jumpstart class consciousness with a party, there is a 110% chance you wind up starting a LARP org that writes newspaper articles nobody reads for a party organ you force new members to try to sell, wherein the chairman of the LARParty writes like he's fucking stalin and not a roleplayer typing shit up in OpenOffice from his rented apartment.
If anarchists do nothing for want of big ideas, communists do nothing because they've nothing but big ideas. Here's my big idea: until class consciousness is at the level where you could win an election with the endorsement of one of their purpose-specific orgs, the only party you should be having is one with alcohol and music. not because electoralism is central - i think it's a waste of time and perverts one's incentives - but because if you cannot win an election, if that capacity is not there, it is self demonstrating that your party is worthless.

>>2244445
If you get really pedantic about it, basically nothing should be a degree. The whole stupid binary pass/fail award/no award system for quantifying education makes it worthless in practice. Knowing the thing for the sake of knowing the thing comes second to having the paper claiming you know the thing because you crammed for the test and immediately forgot it.

In 95% of realistic utopias there is no reason for schools as we know them today - as factories that churn out a facsimile of education with grades more worthless than a nintendo seal of quality - to exist.

>>2244625
>0% of governments have been overthrown by LARPers.
Anon… Lenin was enamored with biggest LARPer there was, Nechayev. The point of dialectic is to LARP so hard the qualitative change manifests itself as a toppled govt.

>>2244625
This is the DSA Communist Caucus line no?

>>2244509
Unironically. Literally just a bunch of petit-bourgeois losers with too much free time to waste who are completely divorced from the class struggle fighting among themselves over who chooses the "correct" label.

>>2244487
>youtuber slop
Not beating the allegations.

>>2244768
>REEEE YOUTUBE
kys medium-obsessed autist

>>2244487
This sucks

>>2244777
>medium-obsessed autist
Lol what the fuck does this even mean.
I remember when criticism of TV for the same reasons was commonplace.

>>2244810
>MUH IDIOT BOX
can u sound less like a curmudgeon

>>2244777
>>2244813
>midwit and proud
Ok then.

>>2243761
>Stalin was a post-structuralist.
Checks out, he never read any of the shit he wrote about.

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>>2244816
>THE MEDIUM MAKES U DUMB
>uses an imageboard

>>2244822
95% of the posts here are dogshit, yeah.

>>2244825
then why are you here? sadistic tendencies? nipples hardened already?

>>2244827
literally me, i am the number one disciple of the marquis de sade on this board, leader of the lumpen-aristocracy vanguard

>>2244825
>using imageboard slop in 2025
Dude youre like so fucking dumb uyghur.

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Thinking about how I got into critical theory and post-structuralism as a young Marxist teenager and my older ex was always telling me it was bourgeois sentimentalism, social fascism, CIA-funded, etc., and that to be a REAL communist I needed to be a "Stalinist," as he said. Then he said I needed to be a LaRouchite and join Maupin's student group. Then it turned into how I needed to be a Dengist–didn't matter how many times I reminded him that commodity production and wage labor were tenets of capitalism. Then he turned into an actual fascist blackshirt. Meanwhile, I am still chilling and reading Deleuze, Debord, Adorno, and Tiqqun. Wonder if he has Chinese stocks or something now.

>>2244925
The ACP Pipeline.

>>2244930
Never give Lasalle/Proudhoun or any form of middle class socialism an ounce of respect btw

>>2244441
Okay, are you French or Italian? Autonomists being relevant in your country makes me lean towards Italian. But the Situationists have not been relevant for a very long time and no one is seriously going arround insisting that in order to bring about a material overhaul of the current state of things we must "create situations" like Debord wrote. Sure, the spirit is there in many young people discovering the Situationists for the first time, but everyone taking serious inspiration from the SI isn't so stupid. I recommend looking into The Invisible Committee, Tiqqun, and Endnotes. They are patently Marxist and have veritably read more Marx than 99.99% of posters here who are sadly teens just watching YouTube videos and misreading essays. All of these writers and their influencers, insights, and reference points are far more relevant than what you imagine.

>>2244930
Yeah, he was pretty much a product of mid-2010s edgy ML "leftbook" and checked off every box. Buddies with Maupin (I have so many stories about this I should share someday), thought any form of feminism was bourgeois, thought Trump was based because of "populism," larped about being part of a new revolution, resented me for even bothering with critical theory and bothering with any philosophy that wasn't German Enlightenment. My fault for dating him in the first place, but I was a teenager and he was 24 if that gives any perspective. At least it pushed me even further towards what I knew was legitimate in the end.

Like many others ITT, Debord was my wakeup call. Kind of funny how you can tell MLs don't actually read given how many of them try to co-opt Debord considering how much of Society of the Spectacle is just demolishing them.

>>2244441
Reminder that Marx considered the state socialism of the social democrats to be 'petty bourgeois' with its analysis based in Proudhon and Lassalle.

And from the preface of the Manifesto:

One thing especially was proved by the Commune, viz., that “the working class cannot simply lay hold of the ready-made state machinery, and wield it for its own purposes.”

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>>2242658
Based and completely true.

Adorno was far more of a genuine revolutionary than any of you lot who use red flag as a cumrag.

>>2244777
there is nothing wrong with being obsessed with the medium. "the medium is the message" is the truest aphorism ever written and mcluhan, correctly read, offers insights about the world second only to marx.

>>2245176
mcluhan was wrong about what the "message" was though. we dont have a "global village" born from an electric universe.

>>2244925
NEVER discuss communism with your SO. That is just begging for a split.

>>2242658
Absolutely essential read on understanding and critiquing post-structuralism.

>>2245179
oh yes we do. it's just that a village isn't a twee harvest moon / animal crossing fun-time fantasy of the sort sold to city dwellers. villages are small, petty places of local family drama and everyone knowing your business - and a global village is a small, petty hell of twitter screencap threads, e-celeb drama, and callout posts because you liked the wrong post, situated in an electric universe where people are hooked into the internet 24 hours a day.

>>2245189
i am not saying that we are not mediated by a new form of the social, but that mcluhan was far too optimistic about the nature of information.

>>2245182
I learned my lesson, and tbh unless you are a literally-autistic ML, the older you get, the less any of this matters in a relationship anyway; unless your goal is to chase a fantasy of having a torrid love affair with a potential co-author.

>>2245160
tsmt

>>2245188
I already had that downloaded but I haven't got around to reading it, I'll make sure to do it this week

>worst person you know makes a completely correct point
lol mls and mlms are just as retarded

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it's sounds like heresy to claim that a civilization at the height of its power could spend a century producing total garbage, intellectually
but isn't it true that the catholic church had multiple centuries of super smart theologicians doing intellectual work in service of shit nobody cares about any more

>>2278559
Gotta give the priests busywork or they'll start gooning and touching kids,.

What's body without organs

>>2279637
Its a yellow piss liquid from the end of evangelion

>>2279637
its the foetus. a hollow organism of pure potential. organs centralise biological functions to certain ends, while deleuze sought to decentralise productive systems. a factory to deleuze is an organic system in the larger economic "body" for example. the nomad is the deterrirorialised subject, who is most revolutionary.

I haven't read any of these people but why do I have a feeling he's speaking the truth? Is it some sort of sixth sense?

>>2280162
OP is just an anti-intellectual who hasnt even read marx himself

>>2280149
Nomad in deleuzian sense

>>2280162
Debord and Zizek are at least worth checking out. Can't say much about the others since I'm not as familiar with their works and I still need to read their stuff at some point so that I can have a more informed opinion on their contributions.

>>2280149
So deleuze is talking about a communist society?

Le deleuze is le marxist

>>2280179
in a way, imo, yes

>>2280186
his last book before he died was going to be titled "The Greatness of Marx"

Le deleuze with le guattati created le marxist psychiatry or something

>>2244925
Xi Jinpeng likes Marcuse's "One-Dimensional Man" though ? https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202402/02/WS65bc3cb7a3104efcbdae93bf_7.html

>>2280149
That's fucking stupid

Why this fear of concreteness and structure
Quite literally an infantile philosophy

>>2280149
How is someone most revolutionary in a communist society?

>>2280258
well it is anti-oedipal
so quite literally infantile

Also, no mention of the masses, only individual struggle and individual overcoming
Meh

>>2280267
Its a book for a communist society

>>2280267
deleuze was a nietzschean

>>2280268
That's like wiping your ass in anticipation of a shit you'll take tomorrow

>>2280263
????
are you fucking stupid

>>2244925
>commodity production and wage labor were tenets of capitalism
Communism will never ever be achieved until childish MLs and Anarchists read theory for once in their lives and realise this.

From the very first line of Capital:
<The wealth of societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails appears as an “immense collection of commodities

Do you get it yet?
YOU CANNOT RETAIN COMMODITY PRODUCTION AND CLAIM TO BE A SOCIALIST SOCIETY.

Is deleuze's work for a future communists who will have achieved communism and have to guard it against reaction?

What deleuze's work is about? What did he discover?

>>2280369
No, it's for arthoes and failson anarchists to beat off to

None of this matters. Deleuze wasnt even a communist i bet

>>2244288
>>The biggest obstacles are the small peasants and the importunate super-clever intellectuals who always think they know everything so much the better, the less they understand it.
get their asses engels

Yeah, the revolution depends on whether the party has read deleuze or not

I always assume its mostly queers who read these guys

>>2280400
proletarian queers exist you know, we are not all middle class losers like you see on whatever bubble youre in

>>2280387
deleuze was a "transcendental empiricist" (bergsonian) whose main theoretical focus was in combatting hegel (difference and repetition) and lacan (anti-oedipus) in targeting dialectics from a positivistic view (via spinozistic substance). basically, he wanted to liberate the eros of nature from the shackles of repression, which is not just in the freudian psyche, but the system of nature itself. for this reason; he often makes reference to wilhelm reich; a marxist-leninist psychoanalyst who theorised "orgone energy" as a natural substance which could be harnessed, as opposed to freud's psychic libidinal economy of eros. in all this are "general" theories of social production, a la bataille or lyotard.

he is also the inventor of "accelerationism", borrowing from nietzsche's notes on the notion of advancing modern nihilism. nietzsche also said that spinoza was his predecessor. spinoza's work is pure positivism, centuries before comte, seeing the universe as expressive of a universal "substance". foucault said that the 21st century would be deleuzean.
>>2280400
you are right
>>2280392
he was not

>>2280415
why so angry?

>>2280416
I think I just had a seizure trying to parse half of those words
Don't misunderstand, I believe you explained it very clearly, rather it is me to blame for lack of intelligence and awareness on what any of this stuff means
How much philosophy and psychology must a person read to reach the point they can follow this type of discussion at ease? Where does one even begin?

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>>2280425
most of philosophy is jargon. once you download the glossary terms, its quite straight-forward (like any fandom). as a basic summary ill provide this:
we may read this from "difference and repetition":
>The work of art leaves the domain of representation in order to become 'experience', transcendental empiricism or science of the sensible (p. 56)
>Despite the fact that it has become discredited today, the doctrine of the faculties is an entirely necessary component of the system of philosophy. Its discredit may be explained by the misrecognition of this properly transcendental empiricism, for which was substituted in vain a tracing of the transcendental from the empirical … We ask, for example: What forces sensibility to sense? (p. 143)
"transcendental empiricism" is a play on kant's "transcendental" or "critical" idealism, which stipulates the higher faculties of reason which condition the very possibility of reason (this is kant's essential "critique", that reason must be limited to have possibility). deleuze clearly esteems this line of reasoning in the elementary sense, except that he inverts kant by seeing that we are not determined toward reason, but empirical experience, or "heterologocal" (pluralistic) difference.

"eros" refers to freud's "pleasure principle", which is the psychic (synbolic) desire to release tension. deleuze wishes to extend this to bodies which more resemble "rhizomes" or decentralised networks, as opposed to oedipal, or hierarchical (organic) structures. this to deleuze relates to spinoza's "substance" as affirmative and distributive
>Spinoza marks a considerable progress. instead of understanding univocal being as neutral or indifferent, he makes it an object of pure affirmation. Univocal being becomes identical with unique, universal and infinite substance … Any hierarchy or pre-eminence is denied in so far as substance is equally designated by all the attributes in accordance with their essence, and equally expressed by all the modes in accordance with their degree of power. With Spinoza, univocal being ceases to be neutralised and becomes expressive; it becomes a truly expressive and affirmative proposition. (difference and repetition, p. 40)

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>The body without organs is the immanent substance, in the most Spinozist sense of the word; and the partial objects are like its ultimate attributes, which belong to it precisely insofar as they are really distinct and cannot on this account exclude or oppose one another. The partial objects and the body without organs are the two material elements of the schizophrenic desiring-machines: the one as the immobile motor, the others as the working parts; the one as the giant molecule, the others as the micromolecules—the two together in a relationship of continuity from one end to the other of the molecular chain of desire. (anti-oedipus p. 327)

>>2280400
Nietzsche and offshoots can be really appealing when you're queer growing up in an abrahamic patriarchial shithole

Instead of being ashamed, you can adopf this respected philosopher and transvaluate your queerness into an epic aristocratic struggle against the retarded moralist rabble

>>2280465
Hate it when retard philosophers blitherly misappropriate terminology from medicine and actual science

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Hoxhaist book denounces Frankfurt school as CIA shills


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I've seen this exact post at least twice. You dumb motherfuckers keep taking the bait.

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>>2280497
Hoxhaists have literally no leg to stand on to accuse anyone of being CIA

>>2244944
very strange to put all that on MLs when you admit he was a maupinite. i come to communism through deleuze and think he is better reading with lenin. invisible committee tiqqun are also central for me but so is stalin and mao.

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>>2279637
a little something like this

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>>2242658
Naturally as a child interested in Marxology I was what one might call a bit of a "fucking loser" but whatever superficial high school drama wasn't my thing and online leftoid drama was. I can't tell you how much slop filled up my head and left nothing of value.

If anything it taught me a valuable lesson: anyone dressing up their shit in a dorky vaporwave aesthetic and dumping retarded niche philosophical concepts on you for the sake of it is the most nauseating type of retard. They need to signal intelligence they don't have so they're as vague and abstract as possible. This is without mentioning that shit like "how rhizomes destroys the right-wing" or whatever pertains fuck all to proles.

I forgot to say fuck Mark Fisher, fuck Badiou, fuck Chomsky (though he actually did have some useful ideas like manufacturing consent).

>>2281048
>Manufacturing Consent
Sorry, but that book is like the libslop version of Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti, which came out two years earlier.

>>2281051
Probably, tbh I just remember it because it was the first 'theory' I read. But yeah fuck Chomsky. And fuck Parenti for being a lib too.

>>2281058
They're also regularly begging for donations in the usapol thread. Kind of a stupid thing to do, when nobody wants them here in the first place.

>>2280899
What are you talking about?

Fuck this thread man. Just read those books yourself

>>2281048
Fateful Triangle is probably his best work, IMHO.

Brainlet thread.

>>2281048
what did fisher even do to you lol

129 responses + OP pretending to read critical theory, and it's obvious because the first insult is "social fascist" meaning they haven't read a single word from any of these authors. What a microcosm of pure stupidity.


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