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>SYDNEY — Australia’s center-left government convincingly won reelection Saturday in a remarkable turnaround driven partly by anger over President Donald Trump’s disruptive trade war and its effect on the close U.S. military ally.
<Anthony Albanese became the first Australian prime minister to win a second term in more than two decades as his Labor Party dramatically increased its parliamentary majority. It marked a stunning comeback for the progressive leader, who trailed in the polls two months ago.
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>>2267875
They are the political wing of Socialist Alternative which is a Trotskyist/Cliffite group that is fairly prominent on Australian university campuses. I've personally never been fond of them. They shut down alternative left wing groups on campuses and take over protest movements. Given their work on shutting down independent left wing voices i suspect as a movement they are absolutely infested with glowies.

>>2252784
>red neolib
rude there red socdem :^C

>>2267875
>>2268024
Yep, technically an alliance (started with both Socialist Alternative and Socialist Alliance as the major parties with Sallies soon leaving: https://socialist-alliance.org/our-common-cause/2020-05-14/socialist-alliance-withdraws-victorian-socialists ) but might as well just be SAlt electoralist party.

>who are Communist Alternative (CAlt)?

A split from Solidarity (both are officially Cliffite orgs but act so differently you'd never know), SAlt are likely the largest socialist org in Australia, mostly students who sell newspapers and act like shitty Mormons for a few years and then burn out. Everyone knows a horror story from them, in fact a significant amount of my org are former SAlt members who left.
https://umsu.unimelb.edu.au/news/article/7797/Why-the-Left-Sucks-An-Inquiry-into-Campuss-Most-Hated-Political-Group/

They waste time trying to call people who already told them to fuck off because they didn't realise that environmental petition was just a tactic to get their phone number. Someone I know blocked their number so they got another member to start calling instead. One of their recruits asked my Palestinian friend who has family in Palestine, at a Palestine protest, if they were of the conflict, and when they said yes, just continued reciting the script anyway. Their branch at Sydney University got their members to strategically vote the Young Liberals (right-wing party) into a seat rather than give it to any of the anti-capitalist orgs. They're basically all the shit stereotypes of privileged White university liberals, it's actually impressive.

Caveat: many of them are actually decent people, this critique is nothing personal, but once they're around other members and have to toe the party line to avoid being ostracized, they're fucking horrible.

mp3 unrelated

>>2268024
>Given their work on shutting down independent left wing voices i suspect as a movement they are absolutely infested with glowies.
If CAlt didn't exist, feds would try to invent them.

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>90 replies
>no certified marxist analysis
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/jun/13.htm

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>>2269244
Over the weekend I'll scan this. It's fascinating reading. A huge anti-communist screed from 1944 written by the virulently anti-communist Labor premier of our largest state,

>>2269381
Please do, comrade! I can't see a copy online, even in Anna's Archive.

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Actually, not sure if you've been on a board that does this, but you can run a storytime thread if it's the kind of book that deserves it.
/co/ would sometimes upload pages of a comic one at a time while the thread makes fun of it and post OC parodies. I don't know if /leftypol/ ever did that, I suspect "This Godless Communism" may have gotten that treatment around 2016 (picsrel).

>>2269385
I'll give it a go - not sure how high the general interest will be though. Lang is an interesting figure for Aussies but less so I imagine for the rest of the board.

>>2252778
>center-left
are you retardo

>>2269381
dont waste your time scanning this
Australia is irrelevant. It's not even a real country, just a province of England

>>2269244
Lenin is lucky he never saw how bad it could get.

>>2254918
they already tried that. it's called to be a beatnik.

>>2269381
Please, and please put it on the books section of the internet archive or another place that people can find more easily.

One of Socialist Alliance's Senate candidates was interviewed by Mr Sikkant on TikTok
How do you think we went? Did he make a good impression
https://www.tiktok.com/@mrsikkant

>>2271082
Unpolished and unprofessional. I cringe to admit it but even Haz would be a better person to interview because he could hit the interviewer with a massive list of talking points but here the Socialist Alliance guy is caught off guard and is frantically scrambling as you can tell by his posture and constant thinking over of what to say.

>>2271082
>How do you think we went?
>we
Do I look like an awkward retiree succdem to you?
i work at computers and have better posture, appearance shouldn't matter but it does in the electoral popularity contest

>>2271086
I will say good on them for immediately explaining that electoralism isn't the main route for change.

Yeah a media training session could do some good. Like at 2:00, they seem to be treating this like a personal argument, where "No." is a valid response to the interviewer's lay-up "But didn't Elon do all this stuff?", the interviewer then has to kind-of-awkwardly draw the reasoning out of the guy with follow-up questions and say "I'm not on his side" to try and make him realise it's a prompt, not an argument.
The interviewer is BEGGING for a critique of the "risk" argument for minutes.

oh god i just got to 5:00 and fucking hell no candidate should be saying that in response to a simple question about socialist society. Like yeah, you should be ready to summarise Marxist theory in a couple of sentences, it doesn't have to be rigorous but you have to give something, it took them a bit too long to find that it's a society where we're driven by [material] needs rather than profit. They kinda managed the innovation rebuttal.

Obviously it's easier for me here with a keyboard instead of a real-time interview, but my comrade in socialism, you're a fucking politician.

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Socialist Alliance has issued a statement about the Australia-wide expansion of Victorian Socialists, confirming they are NOT merging

>The comrades from Victorian Socialists/Socialist Alternative also asked for an assurance that Socialist Alliance would not block a request by them to change their name with the electoral commission.

>As the longest-standing federally registered party with “socialist” in the name, Socialist Alliance has first rights to its use.

>While Victorian Socialists is proposing to change its name to Socialist Party, in its expansion publicity it refers to itself simply as the "Socialists".

>This amounts to a de facto claim to exclusive use of the word and creates a real basis for confusion, especially if used on ballot papers. We remain open to further discussion about how to advance cooperation and greater unity.

https://socialist-alliance.org/news/2025-05-18/statement-socialist-alliance-national-expansion-victorian-socialists

>>2271101
>tax le rich (as if elon musk has billions in his personal bank account and not as shares in his companies)

thanks ben shapiro, literally saw him give the same argument

>>2273583
i mean yeah taxing the rich is impossible these days, you just can't tax em like you used to

>>2271101
I've never seen anyone who uses the word 'skinnyfat' have anything of value to say.
Curious.

>>2273588
you should go to the gym and stand up straight. it's good for you

>>2273583
most of a capitalist's "assets" are their means of production. how do you "tax" that out of people? its a stupid argument because it shows economic illiteracy. its on the same level as saying that printing billions of dollars creates billions of dollars of more value. what objective factor does erasing the income of elon musk have except that elon simply has less money?
>>2273588
are you a skinnyfat yourself, perchance?

>In Victoria, three sources said membership numbers were between 9,000 and 10,000 […]

>A former member of the Victorian Liberal executive said the division had about 15,000 members close to 20 years ago. The party has since shed members, according to the source, and the average age of those who remain has climbed to 68.


>“One of the biggest expenses we used to have [at our local branch] was on funeral wreaths,” they said. “We’d be down at the florist every week handing over $70.”

lmao


>>2252784
Except the tiny detail that Israel has a deep social-democratic tradition and is more socialist than Palestine ever can hope to be. Oh wait are you confusing the current culture war bullshit for actual politics again?

>>2290077
that sounds like a line ripped verbatim out of a satire piece, holy shit man

Starmerism Down Under

>If the ALP’s current programme is remarkably similar to Starmerism, its approach to party management also offers a vision of what a thoroughly Starmerised British Labour Party will look like.


>One legacy of the Hawke/Keating years never fully emulated by Blair was the eradication of socialism as an organised current within the ALP.


>While the term does appear in the party’s constitution and in the name of formal factions at state and federal levels, the last prominent ALP politician to positively utter it was former senator Doug Cameron in 2019. Tellingly, it was in his retirement speech.


https://tribunemag.co.uk/2025/06/starmerism-down-under

I remember listening to a neo-nazi podcast ep some comrade shared where a Patriot Front ex-member aired all their soiled laundry, and one point that stuck out was them mentioning that antifa groups had forced them to do their publicity stunts at sunrise before anyone was awake to bash their faggot asses. ("something something antifa orgies make them wake up late")

Now NutSacNet are going further and holding up banners at three in the fucking morning. The Absolute State. And, according to the /fa/ggots over at zzzchan, these derros are the best that the West has to offer. Some autistic wimps.

>>2271082
Unprofessional and sloppy. Not an outright embrrassment but a complete miss of an opportunity.

You have an audience of potentially thousands of people and you criticise billionaires by calling them "cunts", and then give a wishy washy answer about your platform being about yelling and screaming for social justice. You could have talked about the multiple economic crises in this country, how billionaires exploit other people's labor, gain exclusive government contracts, or use their capital to control media or outright manipulate elections. You can point out how the Australian ruling class is now complicit in multiple war crimes and ethnic cleansing.

The positive case for socialism was weak as well. Yes, obviously a society based on human need, not for profit. But point out why it is neccessary, why it is democratic, why it is historically vital, how capitalism constantly creates crises, war, destruction and the top of society comes away richer than ever before?

SAllies are dying anyway, so no big loss.

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There's going to be a snap demonstration for the freedom flotilla at the state library 6pm

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Who was in the wrong

>>2311756
israel

>>2252778
>center-left
lol not even pretending to be leftoids. a win for WHO??

>>2305139
Which state, ya derro

>>2311756
anarchojak for not bashing Channel 9 reporters

>>2311756
Anarchojak for not clapping reporterjak's cheeks.

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I'll try and remember to make a proper /auspol/ soon. Meanwhile, have some zionist BAWWWs.

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Also for anyone who lives under rocks, former Greens candidate who ran against Albo got bloodied by police at a protest in Lakemba outside SEC Plating, a company that provides electroplating services to at least 13 different weapons manufacturers including Bae Systems, Thales, and Raytheon.. Spoilered image due to eye injury and blood.

>>2360034
Saw that. Honestly wondering what the spin of the media is going to be because of this

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>>2336971
more like BrisbaSED. amirite?

Image from the Legal Observers NSW instagram.

https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/nsw-police-assault-pro-palestine-protesters-arrest-five-sec-plating-picket

>It was the fourth picket of the facility, organised by the Weapons Out of the West (WoW) group, which campaigns against weapons' production in Western Sydney.


>Police had already arrested one legal observer before the picket started. The WoW spokesperson said on June 27 they were attempting to negotiate with police when one officer became “agitated” and the violence started.


>Videos posted on social media show police dragging protesters across the ground, holding people by the neck and slamming them into fences.


>A young woman [Sarah Thomas] was hospitalised with injuries to her eye and face “after being battered by two officers with no apparent cause”. She now needs surgery. One officer reportedly said as she protested the violence: “That’s on you”. WoW said that medics were “barred by police from providing first aid”.


>Another protester was “illegally strip-searched in front of the crowd in the cold with no privacy”, the spokesperson said. They were subsequently arrested, despite nothing incriminating being found.


>Rising Tide activist Zack Schofield, who was arrested, said NSW Premier Chris Minns “can’t arrest his way out of the people objecting to genocide and the complicity of Australia in this”. He added: “The excessive force used by police was brutal and will be put into question.”


>Martime Union of Australia Sydney branch organiser Shane Reside, who was also arrested, said: “After witnessing the brutal assault committed against another member of the community, I called out the police for their actions and on that basis they then targeted me and I was arrested.”

>>2360036
BrisBASED, comr8 ;)

>>2360031
re: Terrorgram plot, it happened last year:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-27/terrorgram-linked-to-alleged-plot-to-kill-labor-politician/105469638
Kid didn't meet dress code lol

>Footage from the livestream shows Patten fitting himself with a helmet, surgical facemask and ballistic vest while wearing army khaki in a bathroom at Newcastle's Civic Theatre and showing off his assembled gear neatly laid out on blanket.

>He then crossed a road and entered Newcastle MP Tim Crakanthorp's office.
>He then quickly exited the office and walked towards the museum in Workshop Way where a staff member can be heard telling him 'you can't be dressed like that', before raising the alarm.
>The employee raised the alarm after Patten entered the building, telling him: 'You need to leave (because you're) dressed like that sir.'
>'Get outside for us please.'
>The livestream then shows the man leaving the museum and placing his knife and bag down on a seat before the doors are locked behind him.
>The man behind the camera doesn't say a single word during the entire seven-minute video as he leisurely walks between the locations.
>After the attack failed, the 19-year-old allegedly uploaded a 205-page manifesto that cited the 2019 Christchurch shooter as inspiration.

* (some quotes from a different article back in 2024)

>>2360051
lmfao. honestly, this guy is probably thriving more than he ever has before in prison living under a total imposed routine. autistic fucker.

>>2254205
> and a reduction in immigration
nah dutton dropped that in january, a bit after he dropped it he even got caught by a tv crew telling an asian immigration agent "vote for me, i'm your guy" which got shown across the country on the 6pm news lmao.

him flip flopping on immigration THREE times and him wanting to demolish canberra and work from home were literally gods gift to the labor party

>>2365614
>"vote for me, i'm your guy"
nvm from what i could find i just mis-remembered it, what he actually did was hint that he was bringing back the fraud ridden golden visa scheme

In retrospect Dutton had to make a horrendous amount of fuckups to lose, to the point you'd think he deliberately torpedoed his own campaign

>getting rid of his 100k immigration target while he was in the lead because he thought he was gonna beat labor so easily he didn't need to even pretend to be anti-immigrant anymore

>then having the immigration agent faux pas making him look even more pro-immigrant than labor
>waiting until 3 days before the election to flip flop back on his immigration target to try and salvage his election chances once it looked like he was gonna lose
>massively unpopular public service cuts that he had to backflip on
>massively unpopular return to the office policy that he had to backflip on
>hanging around former greens senator schizo "Blaktivist" Lidia Thorpe way to much (i think he even made her the deputy leader or some shit)
>the shadow DOGE stuff
>the spectre of the massively expensive nuclear power plant they couldn't name the cost of so labor got to run wild with it

this all in addition to the 11th hour trump tarrifs bailing labor out like they did for the Liberals in Canada
>Lidia running around with a MAGA hat on during the trump tarrifs

when he was running in January on the promise of reducing immigration and getting rid of the acknowledgment of country daily prayers everyone hates, it was looking like he was gonna make the biggest party comeback ever, so much so he must have felt comfortable enough to put some real stinker policies up, its like he was trying to see just how much shit he could get away with and still get elected, but like Icarus he flew too close to the sun and came tumbling back down.


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