>SYDNEY — Australia’s center-left government convincingly won reelection Saturday in a remarkable turnaround driven partly by anger over President Donald Trump’s disruptive trade war and its effect on the close U.S. military ally.
<Anthony Albanese became the first Australian prime minister to win a second term in more than two decades as his Labor Party dramatically increased its parliamentary majority. It marked a stunning comeback for the progressive leader, who trailed in the polls two months ago.
>>2252778On one hand, i'm at least glad that Mr. Potato head got turned into Mash, and the future Australia project actually looks promising.
On the other hand, I'm not exactly thrilled that we're going to get more years of Labour being limp wristed on Palestine/Israel and have them "combat anti-semitism" while acting as nothing more than a mediating force between capitalists and workers.
>>2252778The lesser evil is the best we can hope for these days so I'm happy.
>vic socialists gets 0.2%>socialist allience gets 0.1%We have a long way to go.
>>2252790Opinion polls said Labor would lose until after Trump's stupidity affected Australia. It was Trump, they had few progressive policies.
>>2253507The orgs in Australia need to participate in elections. Most people don't know about these orgs and elections make people know about your org.
>>2253534A lot of those independents are like the Liberal Party, they just disagree with the party on social issues. The "teal independents" are worse than Labor.
>>2253469This.
No investigation of the CFMEU administration, no right to reply. Labor are anti-labour.
>>2252985Sallies had a pathetic campaign, as usual. You could live next door to their headquarters and have no idea they exist.
WSWS were on at least one senate ballot too, just as an unlabeled group.
>>2253515Justify this strange claim.
>>2253509Nah, more like Obama. Rainbow F-35s type. &&
>>2253570>>2253527Did they rise compared to 2022?
>>2253534reddit question, comr8
literally speaking :^) :
https://aussie.zone/post/20114176>>2253561><Also bad. An actual leftish party [Greens] lost lower house seats.Seems like idealism. What would a lower house seat do? I honestly only care that they kept their senate cross bench power.
>>2254096Found the Legalise Cannabis Australia voter
>>2253534Preferential voting. National electoral authority. Lower house electorates based on population of roughly 100,000 per. Upper house elects from a list at the state level. Independents are mostly disaffected former conservative members in regional areas who left over social issues or part of the very recent "teal" movement who are notionally independent soft conservatives running in the wealthiest electorates funded by an org. created by a billionaire to fuck over the conservatives. They are only notionally independent.
Also eat shit Americans, we knew who the winner was in half an hour of polls closing in our most Western state and had 80% of votes counted.
>>2254120>funded by an orgClimate 200
>>2254131>Simon Holmes à Court (born 1971 or 1972) is an Australian businessman and political activist. He is the son of Australia's first billionaire Robert Holmes à Court, and convenor of Climate 200. He is also a senior advisor to the Climate and Energy College at the University of Melbourne, as director of the Smart Energy Council and the Australian Environmental Grant-makers Network.I (ignorantly) suspect green-booj or ""philanthropism"" because they're big booj spawn, rather than the original booj.
>>2254206Whitlam moved the party to the right. Fifty years later Socdems lionise Whitlam without a thorough understanding of history. Whitlam did utterly bizarre things like bypassing the Constitution to finance infrastructure spending by securing a billion dollar loan through a random Pakistani financier. Also horrendously right-wing things like cheering on the Indonesian invasion of East Timor to keep the Indonesians on the right side of the cold war.
"When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. But as I look about me now all I see are the dregs of the middle class. And what I want to know is when you middle class perverts are going to stop using the Labor Party as a spiritual spitoon."
t. Beazley Sr
>>2254212Whitlam was in the old Labor tradition of corralling the workers away from communism while still looking out for national interest. Which is better than the modern ALP who are all sell outs to America.
Kim Beazley Sr was spot on about the change in class character of the ALP leadership. A pity his son was such a weird fucking Ameriboo.
>>2254212>>2254232Also this trend stems from the party bureaucracy going from being run by workers elected off the shop floor to their children who were sent to get university degrees and then given positions in the party.
I think preventing this trend is a key factor for any future socialist state. I think the idea in the Cultural Revolution that advanced workers should be sent to gain specialist technical knowledge is better at maintaining class character than the children with no work experience being given advanced education and put in charge of knowledgeable workers.
>>2254184+ some parties started mirroring their rhetoric, like "government efficiency".
Also, Clive Palmer, who has been campaining on "Make Australia Great" since like 2016 and recently helped create the Trumpet of Patriots party (DO YOU GET THE REFERENCE??/)
>>2254253Absolutely. I am grateful, make no mistake.
He has no style, he has no grace. This dong's cash is a fukken waste.
>>2252790Countries seeing America go down the toilet and being like
<fuck that bullshit!is not "stupid shit". It's a reasonable response.
>>2254107>Justify this strange claimThe "centre" is the middle of the overton window not half way between communism and ANCAP.
In Australia 80 years ago state owned banks were considered normal and the state continuing to own the banks was a centrist position as you didn't want to make major changes.
Today the centrist position is having the banks remain privatized and the idea of renationalizing the banks would be considered far left.
>>2254655No, all MSM in Australia has a Liberal bias including the ABC since Howard cut funding and ScoMo replaced the board with former Liberal staffers.
At least in the US they have some MSM biased towards the Dems and other biased towards the GOP.
>>2254662The realistic options are Libs or Labor, Labor is way better for the working.
I'm all for talking shit about them and trying to push them left but lets do that after elections because they are still better than the alternative.
and since many of you are fukken tourists, reminder that Albanese co-founded the Parliamentary Friends of Palestine and spoke at pro-Palestine rallies early in their career.
The Labor Party under Albanese has sided with the Zionist Regime, denounced Palestine protests, and we build a vital component of the F-35 bombers here.
>>2254662fwiw we aren't terf island. Albo goes to Mardi Gras.
HELLO AUSTRALIANSThe Victorian Socialists are expanding to cover all States and TerritoriesIn order to get them on the ballot they need as many members joining as they can get
They aim to get some senate seats and if they can get ballot access they will succeed
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https://www.victoriansocialists.org.au/join >>2267875>>2268024Yep, technically an alliance (started with both Socialist Alternative and Socialist Alliance as the major parties with Sallies soon leaving:
https://socialist-alliance.org/our-common-cause/2020-05-14/socialist-alliance-withdraws-victorian-socialists ) but might as well just be SAlt electoralist party.
>who are Communist Alternative (CAlt)?A split from Solidarity (both are officially Cliffite orgs but act so differently you'd never know), SAlt are likely the largest socialist org in Australia, mostly students who sell newspapers and act like shitty Mormons for a few years and then burn out. Everyone knows a horror story from them, in fact a significant amount of my org are former SAlt members who left.
https://umsu.unimelb.edu.au/news/article/7797/Why-the-Left-Sucks-An-Inquiry-into-Campuss-Most-Hated-Political-Group/They waste time trying to call people who already told them to fuck off because they didn't realise that environmental petition was just a tactic to get their phone number. Someone I know blocked their number so they got another member to start calling instead. One of their recruits asked my Palestinian friend who has family in Palestine, at a Palestine protest, if they were of the conflict, and when they said yes, just continued reciting the script anyway. Their branch at Sydney University got their members to strategically vote the Young Liberals (right-wing party) into a seat rather than give it to any of the anti-capitalist orgs. They're basically all the shit stereotypes of privileged White university liberals, it's actually impressive.
Caveat: many of them are actually decent people, this critique is nothing personal, but once they're around other members and have to toe the party line to avoid being ostracized, they're fucking horrible.
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>>2269381dont waste your time scanning this
Australia is irrelevant. It's not even a real country, just a province of England
One of Socialist Alliance's Senate candidates was interviewed by Mr Sikkant on TikTok
How do you think we went? Did he make a good impression
https://www.tiktok.com/@mrsikkant>>2271082>How do you think we went?>weDo I look like an awkward retiree succdem to you?
i work at computers and have better posture, appearance shouldn't matter but it does in the electoral popularity contest>>2271086I will say good on them for immediately explaining that electoralism isn't the main route for change.
Yeah a media training session could do some good. Like at 2:00, they seem to be treating this like a personal argument, where "No." is a valid response to the interviewer's lay-up "But didn't Elon do all this stuff?", the interviewer then has to kind-of-awkwardly draw the reasoning out of the guy with follow-up questions and say "I'm not on his side" to try and make him realise it's a prompt, not an argument.
The interviewer is BEGGING for a critique of the "risk" argument for minutes.
oh god i just got to 5:00 and fucking hell no candidate should be saying that in response to a simple question about socialist society. Like yeah, you should be ready to summarise Marxist theory in a couple of sentences, it doesn't have to be rigorous but you have to give
something, it took them a bit too long to find that it's a society where we're driven by [material] needs rather than profit. They kinda managed the innovation rebuttal.
Obviously it's easier for me here with a keyboard instead of a real-time interview, but my comrade in socialism, you're a fucking politician.
>>2273583most of a capitalist's "assets" are their means of production. how do you "tax" that out of people? its a stupid argument because it shows economic illiteracy. its on the same level as saying that printing billions of dollars creates billions of dollars of more value. what objective factor does erasing the income of elon musk have except that elon simply has less money?
>>2273588are you a skinnyfat yourself, perchance?
>>2271082Unprofessional and sloppy. Not an outright embrrassment but a complete miss of an opportunity.
You have an audience of potentially thousands of people and you criticise billionaires by calling them "cunts", and then give a wishy washy answer about your platform being about yelling and screaming for social justice. You could have talked about the multiple economic crises in this country, how billionaires exploit other people's labor, gain exclusive government contracts, or use their capital to control media or outright manipulate elections. You can point out how the Australian ruling class is now complicit in multiple war crimes and ethnic cleansing.
The positive case for socialism was weak as well. Yes, obviously a society based on human need, not for profit. But point out why it is neccessary, why it is democratic, why it is historically vital, how capitalism constantly creates crises, war, destruction and the top of society comes away richer than ever before?
SAllies are dying anyway, so no big loss.
>>2305139Which state, ya derro
>>2311756anarchojak for not bashing Channel 9 reporters
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