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>>2261964Every country mentioned where part of the empires and the USSR in the great war against fascism
Euroaches need to be mentally rehabilitated
>>2262281proximate cause: ukraine refusing to comply with Minsk agreement and escalating attacks and threats on Donbas
broader causes: increasing size of Ukraine military and NATO integration, increasing calls to join NATO backed by Biden admin and others saying this would happen, Zelensky talking about getting nukes, among other things.
>>2262182I remember as a very young kid, probably first grade, the teacher asking if anyone knew what the ussr was, and I raised my hand to answer "United Soviet socialist Republics." She got really nasty about it and said, "
No, there is nothing
united about them" before explaining they were the union of etc. So thanks for resurfacing that memory.
Fuck you Ms Cheatham I hope you're burning in hell.
>>2262920amazing their critique..
*….reads other articles*
*sees buttlicking article about the sheepherddogging bernie does*
https://peoplesworld.org/article/opposing-trump-sanders-leads-where-other-lawmakers-should-follow/*sees another buttlicking article about how AOC is part of a **hoping it's somehow a radical war against
oligarchs88…. *CHECKS ARTICLE* a fucking coachella*
>Opposing Trump: Sanders leads where other lawmakers should followhttps://peoplesworld.org/article/aoc-sanders-baez-neil-young-rock-the-free-world-at-l-a-bernie-chella/my honest reaction to this "purist" position.
>>2262392The Americans funded these labs SPECIFICALLY to employ Ukrainian scientists who had been involved in Soviet biological and chemical warfare programs, so they wouldn't go work for Saddam or whoever.
I've got no doubt that after 2014 some Banderites were pressuring them to look at biological and chemical warfare options against Russia.
>>2263593Russia is ontologically evil, therefore we must force it to unilaterally cease firing in our direction
It sounds something like this if you read what Ukrainian leaders are saying on meetings with other leaders. It's like the cheapest populism possible
>>2263679When the war is over and the government no longer has an excuse to impose war time controls and martial law.
But I can forsee the war ending, Ukraine turning into some new East and West Germany that'll we'll hear constant news about for years to come, and the western world will "understand" that Ukraine continues to administrate its country like it is still under wartime conditions. And people will just defend open tyranny.
>>2263685Kill kill kill
The only thing the westoid understands is force
>>2263694if this ends with a freeze on the current line and the maidan regime stays in place aligned with nato and free to rearm and rebuild, then they did win.
but this is all nonsense. it's not ending just entering the next phase
>>2263724Well tomorrow doesn't sound like a fun day.
Ukraine says it's a "unconditional" ceasefire. Is there any catches? Perhaps Putin will accept it so long as Ukraine comes to talks on May 15th. That's the part that will end up with nothing happening and everything spiralling backwards I fear.
>>2263907>le monarchic DPKRoh boy, when they hear that KJU isn't head/chief of state, they usually get angry.
one time this "M-L" told me that because KJU was the party general secretary, that means he was above and beyond the head/chief of state (btw this is NOT IN THE DPKR CONSTITUTION), because you see it's "obvious" and "everybody could see through this" (his words); like yeah buddy, stop being a M-L you are not, and jump into Maoist-gonzalist wagon, and stop the charade, BECAUSE FUCKING GORBACHOV WAS THE PARTY GENERAL SECRETARY AND HE COULDN'T STOP YELTSIN.
Jesus, there's nothing more detestable than trotskyites/gonzalists trying to convince people they are M-L.
>>2263918>german greensbut ofc they would jump to that nazi-founded party, lmao. those who don't know history, tend to make mistakes over and over. ofc, not all of them by accident.
conversely, in all ex-soviet republics, M-Ls politicians became rancid anti-communist liberals, so close to nazism is unreal. take for example iryna farion.
>>2264099it's a joke
but still
>>2264282>Russian, East European and Eurasian Studies (REEES) alumni>REEESlol
>As a first-generation Ukrainian-American, Lucy has been drawn to the REEE region from an early age. A Russian heritage speaker, she studied Ukrainian as a FLAS fellow to connect both to her “culture and identity”lmao
>>2263676Absolutely based Agent Z rejecting another Kremlincuck offer.
>but the offer was designed to be rejectedI'd believe that if the Kremlincucks didn't just spend 30 days unilaterally following an energy ceasefire.
>>2265042You mean he stopped blocking funds that Biden approved for buying weapons from the USA?
Nice one. Really big own. Or are you talking about the "mineral deal", which isn't going to bear anything for months?
>>2265044Are you talking about American HIMARS and Patriot missiles that Germany transferred to Ukraine, with American permission?
That's your big "new Wunderwaffe", you dumbfuck?
>>2265049>zero actual gibs to Ukraine>actively trying to profit from the war at the expense of EuropeI can deal. You keep shitting your diaper about ""aid"".
>>2265052Cope, seethe, mald, uighur.
>>2265054>He's doing nothing tangibly different from what Biden was doing.Are you stupid, or are you lying? You do understand that "Presidential Drawdown Authority" means digging directly into the American weapon stockpile and giving it to someone, right? And Biden used to do it twice a month? Do you honestly believe trying to "buy" the gear with the cash that
Biden gave is the same or enough?
Also, you can't make a "deal" if Ukraine just collapses, so Starlink stays. Guess he really wants a deal.
>>2265056So? Biden was digging into the stockpile too. Or do you think Biden was drawing from magic trees? Biden didn't have an infinite supply either and would have to start trickling.
>Guess he really wants a deal.Goal posts moved from ditching to deal?
>>2265060I don't know why you're scrambling to find some nonsensical minutiae.
Let's look at the big picture:
STARLINK LIKE BIDEN… check!
ISR LIKE BIDEN… check!
SANCTIONS THREATS LIKE BIDEN… check!
WEAPONS DELIVERIES LIKE BIDEN… check!
Not sure what difference you think there is between drawing on theater supplies in Germany (Trump) or in South Korea (Biden).
>>2265061>US MIC>nonsensical minutiaeChrist, you really are dumb.
>WEAPONS DELIVERIES LIKE BIDEN… check!You can't even tell the difference between a stream and a trickle. Or that Trump didn't give anything, he expects Ukraine to buy it with the money that Biden gave, but won't be providing any more.
>>2265054>>2265056>>2265057>>2265059President Trump is nothing AT ALL like Joe Biden, who is the worst president we've ever had and ran the country into the ground. I, or i should say the President, the 47th, President Trump, who won with a huge mandate by the way, is trying to clean up the mess. He is working very hard to bring the sides together and Stop The Killing. So many people are dying. it's terrible. And it's because of Joe Biden who screwed this up royally, had a terrible relationship with Putin, and made Zelensky think he was a tough guy who was going to win. Now they are far apart and the President has to manage the situation, which he's been doing beautifully so far i think we should all agree. But it is not easy, so there's so much complaining! It's unbelievable. It will however get done and there will be Peace and Prosperity on all sides, especially for the Unites States of America, and the President 47 will deserve the credit! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>2265065You're scrambling to find nonsense excuses because you committed to the inane idea that Trump would ditch Ukraine, and he's not ditching Ukraine. His fat ego can't walk away.
>>2265066Nice parody, but you may have to be clearer for some around here that it's a parody.
>>2265072I'll play along with the MAGA take that "wow, Zelensky has to buy the weapons using the money that Biden gave."
If I give you $5 and you use that $5 to buy an ice cream from me, you realize that when all is said and done, I've given you an ice cream for nothing, right? I may as well have kept the $5 and given you the ice cream. Yeah, it's less generous than getting both ice cream and $5 for nothing, but in the Ukraine case, it's not even clear that this is what's happening since the mineral deal. Trump has played a shell game in which he gives Ukraine free shit for some vague promise of matched investment into a fund at an indefinite time or that's liquid at an indefinite time. It's enough to fool the MAGA base.
>>2265073The problem being, your people are starving, and you need 100 ice creams
per day to keep them fed. You used to get 50 ice creams for free, and a bunch of money to buy more. Now you have only the money you've been given before, and the amount of ice creams you can get is way, way too low.
>>2265096 (me)
P.S. By your account, Putin is a strong leader, so I'll make this more challenging and give you the advice not to argue down a path that's premised on Putin being a weak leader.
>>2265103speaking of cucktin (tho i'm not a cucktin poster), why is he giving turkey these proposed negotiations. how many times does erdogan have to backstab russia to keep away and not put them in the loop on anything involving ukraine.
i guess maybe they think there's nothing erdogan could really do to mess things up as host for negotiations, but why give it to them after all they've done?
>>2265047I think Trump is putting a little distance between himself and Israel before his tour of the Arab palaces, and in particular he wants a nuclear deal with the Saudis, and the Saudis also want a defense treaty with the U.S. (so the U.S. is obligated to defend Saudi Arabia if attacked but not the other way around) although that's more of a stretch goal, but they're trying to de-link that from Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords because even an absolute monarch like MBS doesn't want to commit political suicide with his own people.
>>2265048Trump ramped up the bombing of Yemen because the Houthis were striking at ships in the Red Sea. The Houthis were doing that because of Israel obviously, but the U.S. never said it wouldn't stop unless the Houthis stopped striking at Israel, only the ships, which the Houthis agreed to do.
The U.S. and Israel don't have a formal defense treaty, so the U.S. isn't strictly obligated to defend Israel. (It does so anyways from time to time but it's not bound by treaty to do so, because both the U.S. and Israel prefer the alliance to remain flexible, like if Israel or the U.S. bombs somebody, they can each do it independently without necessarily putting the other on the hook.)
>>2265114 (me)
>is nicely isn't*
>>2265110>In WWII the USSR was bigger than GermanyLolno, Germany was an industrialized nation of 100 millions, had a whole bunch of suck-ups at it's feet with 200 millions more, and USSR had 200 millions, out of which 50 millions didn't speak Russian, and out of 150 millions left 2/3 were peasants
In 1941, Germany has attacked with 5.5 millions, while USSR could put on the frontline only 2.8 millions. Germany had complete manpower advantage, and Germans have meatwaved themselves over 1941 and 1942 into a total capitulation
>>2265118???
How many of your character's paranoia points did you have to drop to pretend that glowie activities have a nice USAID stamp on them? I'm not surprised you share MAGA's tendency to level down dramatically on the paranoia when it's time to pretend that Trump is doing something. :-)
>>2265142Nah, he was probably doing it for free. And the second statement is..?
Anyway, yes, black budgets exist, but they will always be infinitesimal compared to the money you can move around in the open.
>>2265133i dont know if i did, i just have less time to talk about it which sucks.
the point wasnt to push buttons but i like when the imageboard trolling/memeing turns into shared autism because the trolls are socialists underneath. so this board did good in 2022/2023, the rest of the internet was too broken to discuss with half the depth we had
>>2265183because there won't be any ceasefire. putin rug pulled that and changed it to meetings in istanbul later in the week.
>>2265170i see it all the time, but people only believe casualty numbers they want, and attrition doesn't exist because of the "two weeks" rule. if something hasn't happened now that means it can't happen ever. and if you say it will you're "coping" and get rebuked with "two weeks lol". once something turns red on the maps it's hard to deny it's true.
>>2265187yes but zelonsko is saying he won't go if there is no ceasefire
or maybe he is, his quote changes every 10 minutes.
>>2265117You're probably that reverse Wehraboo faggot who believes the Red Army consisted of 10 superhuman divisions who each killed millions of zerg rushing enemy troops with bare hands while suffering zero injuries and casualities, so i have no interest in getting into an argument with you. Anyway
>Germany 100 million>USSR 200 million2x bigger and the USSR was already a highly industrialized socialist power in 1941, it didn't became the 2nd dominant world power on 9th May 1945 out of a vacuum.
In 1941 the Wehrmacht attacked with 150 divisions consisting of about 3 million German soldiers plus 700k allied foreigners. The USSR defended with 145 divisions consisting of about 3 million soldiers. Fall Blau (summer offensive of 1942) fielded about 1.5 million axis troops, including Germans, Italians, Hungarians and Romanians. The USSR defended with about 2.3 million troops at that point.
This is widely agreed upon by A LOT of historians. It doesn't take anything away from Shukov's and Stalin's genious warfare at all.
>>2265245Literally using Krivosheev figures, though. 5.5 against 2.8 - it's verbatim from Krivosheev. And Industrially speaking, USSR was outmatched 2 to 1 as well
Face it. USSR was industrially inferior to Germany and allies. 1 to 1 with Germany? More or less equal. And USSR won, because socialism is vastly superior to capitalism
>>2265047he did walk away from the red sea, and the Houthis never agreed to stop attacking israel.
>>2265044eh, the fact that the zealot agent z, who never stopped talking about a ceasefire all of the sudden changed to a ceasefire, with a large of territory withdrawal (including Kursk) reveals there's a change of supply in quantities or quality or both, at least from the US.
whatever cope you talk next, keep in mind the battlefield is your reality check.
>>2265096In short: the surplus value finance capital has taken out of cannibalising Ukrainian state capacity eg blackrock buying land ,privitisation and the elusive mineral deal is what they want to happen to Russia. Because while capitalist they are the wrong side of the garden fence, as, once victorious, capitalism redivided the world to extract more profit.
In long: Ukraine in NATO with its long land border gives western finance capital permanent leverage in market negotiations with local russian capital's extractive over selling price, thus intra-bourgeois surplus distribution in their favour. Its a reductive comparison but in the same vein that western consumption would suffer an existential crisis if the periphery developed its own large consumptive middle class competing for demand; a weak, fractured politically unstable Russia will sell at lower prices and will not pushback against the profit opportunities of austerity and privatisation through gutting public surplus.
When Gorbachev and the reformist faction of the CPSU did all they did they did not envision the 90's as it happened. The plan was, as a reward for their geopolitical and ideological concessions they would get in return the same marshal plan-esque investments from western finance capital, develop le epic wholesome social democracy and rule the world as the united global north. of Course gorbachev hadn't read any theory to realise that both European social democracy and the backing American financial capital that raised it out the rubble of WW2 was not done out of the good of their hearts but as a counterbalance to soviet leverage. Leverage he had just given up.
On their own end the international liberal order could have, of their own initiative, 'saved' Russian liberalism and bought themselves a couple more decades of quiet stagnation, but the 'investment' of the welfare state and western European reindustrialisation was going to be 'paid back' with 4 decades of interest in the form of soviet plunder. Doing so deligitimises liberal governance and market stability in russia so in comes a 'bonapartist' figure from the intelligence community to put a leash on local capital for its own good in the form of putin. But when a periphery capitalist country stabilises it places a downwards pressure on the rate of profit as it demands its share of the surplus value. Which can be countered with military leverage, hence the conflict.
>>2265768They don't charge them with anything.
Besides, you are doing a reverse ad hominem, instead of evaluating facts you are looking at the personality of people I am attacking. I've explained how they arrive at such a number, and I also can add that nobody has found even a glimpse of 3 millions corpses of Soviet POWs, captured in 1941, neither did anyone find campsites for 3 million people; and there's neither any documental evidence of any amounts of food being moved to feed them in German archives, which is interpreted as a policy of starvation instead of there being no proof that POWs existed in the first place
Like, for 7 millions of Jews, there's all kinds of traces, starting from fake "resettlement" orders and ending with piles of discarded boots and clothes, as well as corpses. For 3 millions Soviet POWs? NOTHING
https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1921736261074579785The red flag fell over the Kremlin in 1991.
The West declared victory. China took notes.
For three decades, the CPC has dissected why the USSR collapsed—not because socialism failed, but because its guardians surrendered.
Here’s what China learned. 🧵
1 — Bread, Then Ballots: How Economic Mismanagement Triggered Collapse
China's first lesson: economic reform must consolidate socialism—not dismantle it.
Gorbachev reversed this logic, liberalizing politics before resolving stagnation.
“Gorbachev was pushing political reform ahead of economic reform; China under Deng was promoting economic reform ahead of political reform.” — Victor Gao
Perestroika unleashed market chaos without structure. Supply chains collapsed. Prices exploded.
"The privatization reform led to a serious polarization of the distribution of wealth, a lack of socialist ideals and beliefs, an extremely chaotic sense of ethics and morality, and an all-round regression of the social spirit." — Li Shenming/Chen Zhihua
The acute failure wasn’t socialism itself, but reform without sequence, without control.
2 — Historical Nihilism: How the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Lost the Will to Rule
The CPC’s second lesson: revolutions die when they lose faith in themselves.
“There are multiple factors contributing to the disintegration of the Soviet Union, a very important one being Khrushchev throwing away Stalin’s knife and Gorbachev’s open betrayal of Marxism-Leninism.” - CPC leader Hu Jintao
“Khrushchev’s denunciation ‘shook the foundations’ of Soviet authority.” — Hu Jintao
Gorbachev’s glasnost reforms—intended as renewal—accelerated ideological collapse.
"After the legalization of private newspapers and the privatization of state-run media, the main media in the Soviet Union were soon controlled by private capital and elite forces inside and outside the Soviet Union.
Capital at home and abroad tried its best to vilify and subvert the socialist system and preach the glorification of the eternal rule of capitalism…
With the implementation of the policy of "openness without restrictions," a vigorous trend of historical nihilism that negated the CPSU and the Soviet Union rapidly spread to the historiographical, theoretical, and ideological circles." — Li Shenming/Chen Zhihua
“An important reason [for the Soviet collapse] was that their ideals and convictions wavered.” — Xi Jinping
A party that discredits its own history cannot hold power.
Historical nihilism was suicide by self-critique.
3 — From One Party to No Party: How the CPSU Dismantled Itself
The CPSU didn’t fall to a revolution. It collapsed because no one defended it—not the Party, not the people, not the army.
Gorbachev’s reforms eroded Party control: contested elections, a presidency outside the Party, pluralist elites.
"The so-called Gorbachev-style socialism was just a slogan, he himself did not have a well-formed concept.
At that time Gorbachev also came up with this slogan, ‘More socialism, more democracy’. This is a very stupid way of putting it. Is there socialism or is there not socialism?
The reference to more or less is nonsense.
So when the question was raised as to what is 'more socialism', Gorbachev, the proponent of this formulation, himself spread his arms and didn't know how to answer." — Aleksandr Kapto, Former Head of CPSU Central Committee’s Ideological Department
When the Party’s authority dissolved, the state followed.
Reform without discipline became liquidation.
4 — One Union, Fifteen Flags: How the USSR Imploded from the Periphery
The Soviet Union constitutionally allowed its republics to secede. And when the center weakened, they did.
“Even a symbolic secession clause can become a real dagger when central authority wanes.” — Global Times
Gorbachev’s decentralization enabled nationalist movements to legally dissolve the Union.
“Moscow’s failure to ‘subordinate ethnic identity and stamp out local nationalisms’ was a primary reason the federation dissolved.” — Prof. Ma Rong, Peking University
Beijing responded by rejecting Soviet-style federalism.
China recognizes ethnic diversity—but sovereignty is indivisible. National cohesion is a red line.
5 — Overreach, Not Encirclement: How the USSR Exhausted Itself Geopolitically
The USSR wasn’t simply outgunned—it overextended itself trying to match imperial pressure on imperial terms.
Arms races, Afghanistan, client-state subsidies—it drained itself.
Military spending rose to an estimated 15–17% of Soviet GDP by the 1980s, a colossal allocation that starved civilian sectors.
The CPC sees this as partially self-inflicted. The West pushed, but the USSR walked into the trap.
The Chinese lesson: strength begins with development, not illusions of trust or military footprint.
6 — Dollar Wars: How U.S. Finance Helped Break the Soviet Economy
The CPC also studied how the USSR was broken by oil shocks and credit warfare.
In the 1980s, oil revenues were the USSR’s lifeline. When Saudi overproduction—backed by the U.S.—crashed prices, Soviet income collapsed.
“The Soviet economy was ‘fragile’ by the 1980s, overly dependent on resource exports and burdened by costly obligations.” — CCTV / Global Times
Desperate, Soviet leaders turned to Western credit—but loans came with strings: liberalization, privatization, and chaos.
Core lesson: never let your economy be hostage to foreign currencies, foreign markets, or foreign lenders.
7 — Peaceful Evolution: How the West Won the Information War
The USSR didn’t just lose a battle of arms. It lost a battle of ideas.
Western liberalism entered via glasnost, NGOs, dissidents, and cultural infiltration. The CPSU disarmed itself ideologically—and the West filled the vacuum.
“The CPSU’s removal of the seal of Marxism and Leninism in the ideological field… set free the demon, which destroyed it. The collapse of thoughts brought the collapse of the CPSU.” — CPC Documentary
Western NGOs, spies, and propaganda efforts incubated a pro-Western fifth column within the USSR.
Ideological security is national security. If your enemies teach your youth what to believe, you’ve already lost.
7 — No One Resisted: The Final Lesson of Soviet Collapse
When the end came, no one defended the Soviet Union. 19 million Party members stood down. The military didn’t act. The state evaporated without resistance.
The Party had died long before the flag came down.
“In the end, nobody was a real man, nobody came out to resist.” — Xi Jinping
The CPC sees this as the endgame of ideological surrender, strategic confusion, and liberal reform: not death by external blow—but collapse from within.
"Individuals from Khrushchev to Gorbachev slowly distorted, castrated, falsified, and betrayed the correct theoretical foundation laid by Lenin for the CPSU…
If the foundation is not strong, the earth moves and the mountain shakes. Having lost the theoretical basis of Marxism-Leninism, the Soviet Union’s collapse was inevitable." — CPC documentary
From Beijing's 2006 documentary 'Preparing For Danger In Times Of Safety – Historic Lessons Learned from the Demise of Soviet Communism':
"From the 1991 Soviet disintegration to the end of the 20th century, Russia’s gross domestic product (GDP) declined by 52% compared with the GDP level in 1990, while it declined only 22% during the war years from 1941 to 1945.
Over the same period (1991 to the end of the 20th century), Russian industrial production decreased by 64.5%, and agricultural production by 60.4%.
As the ruble devaluated, prices rose 5000 times.
Since 1992, the Russian population has been declining. In 1990 average life expectancy in Russia was 69.2 years, but it fell to 65.3 years in 2001, almost 4 year’s decline. The male life expectancy in some parts dropped a full 10 years.
The disintegration of the CPSU and the Soviet Union has brought disastrous consequences to the people and the country, far beyond these figures and situations."
>>2265786>They don't charge them with anything. Yes they do. They argue that 3-4 million Soviet POWs were murdered through neglect in blatant violation of the Geneva convention to which Germany was a signatory. This would be the largest warcrime ever recorded.
>I also can add that nobody has found even a glimpse of 3 millions corpses of Soviet POWs, captured in 1941Yeah we know, you think the Nazis cool guys who would never murder so many people or do something so evil. You're basically a Holocaust denier.
>>2265253THIS TIME WILL WOOOORKK REEEEmy my…
how are not europeans rebeling against these people, it completely atonishes me.
>>2265647>he did walk away from the red seaNo he didn't. He stopped offensive operations after realizing they weren't doing shit. The Pentagon is still coyly talking about defensive support to Israel, i.e., shooting down Houthi missiles.
>reveals there's a change of supply in quantitiesMaybe if you'd read properly, you'd see that my position is that the change of quantity is due to depleted stocks and that I'm not even contesting the change of quantity lmao. But Biden would be facing the same harsh economic realities and having to change quantities too. So this isn't an argument that Trump is better than Biden.
>>2266225>No he didn't. He stopped offensive operations after realizing they weren't doing shit. The Pentagon is still coyly talking about defensive support to Israel, i.e., shooting down Houthi missiles. well, there's a difference between carrying water for israel and trying to take a shit for israel.
>So this isn't an argument that Trump is better than Biden.he only wants to stop it as long he gets "the wonderful tremendous deal" for the US. or perhaps he gets bored of trying. whatever comes first.
>>2266539Tbh that would actually give the Ukrainians an actually sensical military goal they could make a reasonable defence for, compared to the endless proooobing where they keep sending men to their certain deaths in any direction that might make brief territorial gains.
>But if their losses are so great, why are Ukrainians still fighting?When attrition comes at a very high cost, choosing to surrender is a choice leaders make to be sensible, alas, no one does want to be sensible when they’re losing and losing means at the very least the end of your national project, if not your life.
Tbh, there should be a better word for the inflection point where a military is doomed to defence for the rest of the war than “collapse”, because everyone thinks that means everyone on the battlefield falling over with their thumbs in their mouths
>>2266537territory will come with attrition, but attrition does not come with territory. taking a bunch of land quickly has a high cost and still leaves the enemy in tact to fight another day. when they can't fight another day you can take whatever territory you want. so it comes down to whether you think you will have to finally defeat the army or not, if they're going to keep fighting no matter what territory you take, it can be better to focus on breaking down and defeating the enemy forces where you are, rather than trying to force advances and taking territory.
This is one of the reasons Prigozhin was so full of shit. He threw waves of hopeless fodder into a shredder to force a capture of a city that would have ultimately fallen to them anyway in time, and did so in a manner that would be completely unsustainable once the prison fodder ran out, all while pretending that everyone else was stupid or cowardly for not following his braindead formula across the whole conflict. Russia would have already lost listening to him (and to cucktin posters), but that's ultimately what he wanted anyway.
>>2266606Russian nuclear weapons terrify the US, but the US has decided that Putin is never going to use them in response to conventional attacks.
Besides, by Putin's own admission, a handful of Oreshniks is as effective as nukes (presumably he meant tactical nukes?), and he has no appetite for that kind of conventional attack either.
>>2266634Russia and indeed most nuclear armed states have a policy of not using nuclear weapons first in a conflict, the US doesn’t and on the contrary have the policy of using nuclear weapons preemptively or really for any reason it sees fit.
That’s why the narrative of Russia/Putin trying to use nuclear “blackmail” isn’t true, or at least not as true as when it comes to the US that asserts the right to use its nukes for whatever reason it wants and also suggests in any conflict it involves itself into is one that threatens their own way of life/values/freedom etc.
Not that Russia would necessarily be doing anything differently if that wasn’t the attitude the US has, but nevertheless it’s a bit rich for such an entitled attitude that
>I do what I like and if anyone stops me, I claim I have the right to nuke them in retaliation or before they can stop meis also claiming that a nation with a no-first-use policy is the one inherently making threats here.
>>2267017Yeah no fucking shit this is what everything is leading to. NATO thought Russia was powerful and would take Ukraine easily but this war exposed how weak they really are. Another peace deal, a decade to build up and plan an assault, and then America can finish off Russia like they did Iraq or Libya or Yugoslavia. And the weak fucking loser sitting in the Kremlin won't even launch the nukes. NATO crossed pretty much every red line and found that Russia's leadership is unwilling to go nuclear despite being invaded, despite having civilians killed in terror attacks , despite having energy and critical infrastructure blownup, etc.
Campists say we can't support Russia because the war is inter imperialist
No you fucking retards Russia is going to be obliterated by NATO over the next few decades if they do not pull off a decisive win it is literally win or fucking die >>2267030https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements#Minsk_II,_February_2015On the first day after the pullout a dialogue is to start on modalities of conducting local elections in accordance with the Ukrainian legislation and the Law of Ukraine "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts," and also about the future of these districts based on the above-mentioned law.
Without delays, but no later than 30 days from the date of signing of this document, a resolution has to be approved by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, indicating the territory which falls under the special regime in accordance with the law "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts," based in the line set up by the Minsk Memorandum as of 19 September 2014.
Pullout of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, and also mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under OSCE supervision. Disarmament of all illegal groups.
Constitutional reform in Ukraine, with a new constitution to come into effect by the end of 2015, the key element of which is decentralisation (taking into account peculiarities of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, agreed with representatives of these districts), and also approval of permanent legislation on the special status of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in accordance with the measures spelt out in the attached footnote,[note 1] by the end of 2015.
Based on the Law of Ukraine "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts", questions related to local elections will be discussed and agreed upon with representatives of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in the framework of the Trilateral Contact Group. Elections will be held in accordance with relevant OSCE standards and monitored by OSCE/ODIHR.
>>2267971That was only a problem when such states became socialist states after WW2. But before WW2, all of those countries save East Germany had been extremely reactionary states, monarchies and stratocracies. It is hard to keep the counter revolutionary elements at bay. The reason East Germany was relatively secure throughout its life was because what we now call the state of Brandenburg had huge Communist support before 1933.
Let the Chinese prop up the European industry, keep workers paid and in a job, making anti-china feeling plummet amongst the workers similar to how Soviet Ladas were popular amongst the dying industrial workers of Europe in the 80's, let neoliberalism and social liberalism destroy any real reaction, let the EU-US rivalry plunge the economy downwards, making people become more genuinely class conscious.
>>2268593damn son
>the interception attempt failedlol baltic chihuahuas can't do shit. if its true Russia entered their airspace that's certainly out of the ordinary
China is now more well liked than the USA world wide
Xi Jinping is more well liked world wide than Donald Trump
https://www.politico.eu/article/usa-popularity-collapse-worldwide-trump-return/>>2268690>Brazil Every report I've heard from LatAm comrades say that the right wing in those countries is entirely under the cultural hegemony of American conservatism. LatAm rightoids live and breathe not only Trump and all the talking points/ideas of the GOP, but increasingly shit like evangelical Protestantism, prosperity gospel, dominion theology, Q-Anon type conspiracism, etc. These tendencies are particularly strong in Brazil with Bolsonaro and his supporters.
>VietnamYeah idk about that one. Maybe lingering unease about being next to China? Seems strange though given that relations between the two governments are warming considerably.
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