The Kurds are the world’s largest stateless nation, spread across Turkey, Iraq, Syria, and Iran, with the majority in southeastern Turkey. Since the 1970s, the most influential independence movement has been Turkey’s PKK, founded by Abdullah Öcalan as a Marxist‑Leninist guerrilla group. The 1991 Gulf War saw Western powers carve out an autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq, using Kurdish aspirations to weaken Saddam Hussein—setting a precedent for fragmented “self‑rule.” Post–Soviet collapse and with Iraqi Kurdistan forging ties with Ankara over oil exports, the PKK abandoned armed struggle and Marxism‑Leninism.
In 2005, Öcalan embraced Murray Bookchin’s “ecological libertarian municipalism,” focusing on decentralized communes and environmental protection rather than class-based national liberation. This turn treats ecology as a substitute for the core Capital–Labor conflict and sidelines the broader Kurdish national question. It risks entrenching divisions between Kurds in Turkey, Syria, and Iraq, as oil‑rich Iraqi Kurds pursue state‑level leverage while others are steered toward small‑scale localism. Without a Marxist framework, communities lack the tools to counter state repression, plan economic development, or resist co-optation by Turkish authorities.
The PKK’s adoption of “eco‑municipalism” reflects both an ideological retreat from socialist class struggle and an example of how imperial powers exploit minority movements via “humanitarian” and environmental pretexts.
No wonder the movement collapsed.
106 posts and 25 image replies omitted.>>2267463I'm a Kurd and don't want this, It seems like only the Military Industry Complex wants it. And Harcore Nationalists… Also I feel really disgusted that the countless milions slaughted for no reason since 01 and NEVER want to unleash it again…
ENOUGH BLOODSHED
Sawry but not rly sorry..but stop talking about Kurds and a Kurdistan if you are not Middle Eastern…
>>2267695 (me)
Thank you for making the only good post ITT
>>2278377Look, just because the tankies were right doesn't mean they shouldn't feel bad about it 🥺
What? They already felt bad about it? Not enough 😡
>>2278084I'm the only Kurd that is speaking on this stupid topic. Honeypot or not.. Fuck PKK and YPG and fuck Ocalan, may he rot in hell. Turks are good people.
I really hate the CIA/Mossad for continually de stabilize the middle east through divide and conquer, its why we are so weak. And have not learned from WWI.
There are no friends among Westerners, its only business transactions…
>>2296596Why are Americans so fixated on the middle east? its just a weird fetish to have…
I think most of u guys are alright, but u gotta focus on somehting else. Because there is no happenings. Its only poor people.
>>2278551>this is true, the majority of Kurdish comrades in Turkey I know irl dislike the PKKMany thousands of comrades in turkey went to fight with the PKK and then the YPG/J
THOGUH.
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