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Hello fellow communists and anarkkkidies.
One of the events which I find most fascinating in recent years as a Non-American is the Capitol Hill CHAZ/CHOP thing. I would like this thread to be MLs shitting on it and saying why it was the biggest failure of all time and I want anarchists to explain why it failed but why it does not invalidate anarchism nonetheless.
Let us take a pause from Russ-Ukro, Indo-Pak and focus on this gem of the Yankee Anarcho-Lumpeno-Libtardo axis.
JANNIES PLS DONT SAGE, ALLOW THE PEOPLE'S EXPRESSION TO MANIFEST ITSELF FREELY
89 posts and 17 image replies omitted.

Why don't MLs and Anarchists just… compromise?
Is a little Pancake style Councilism or Bookchin-esque Communalism too much to handle?

My point being the Western left is so fragmented and full of infighting and unwilling to make compromises that it will never ever achieve anything.
All we'll ever see is more CHAZ/CHOP failures while fascism continues to take over Western states and entrench itself further.
The right looks for converts while the left looks for traitors. We need the full force of a highly organised united front to even stand a fighting chance.
You know how the EZLN managed to get started at all? Because of compromises between Maoists and Anarchists on a middle ground position neither initially saw as being correct according to their armchair theory & personal ideological positions, but which both could find tolerable.

Until you all learn to stop pointing fingers at each other on imageboards and begin to focus on what we all have in common - a desire for revolutionary socialism, destruction of capitalism, redistribution of wealth, and a stateless classless moneyless world and the endpoint.
Please please please get along for 5 fucking minutes.
If you really want to prove you're even remotely serious I suggest this:
MLs, reply by saying something nice about the Anarchists for once.
Anarchists do the same and reply by saying something nice about MLs.
Was that really so hard?

>>2273083
🦗

>>2273099
Is that a Marxist cricket or an Anarchist cricket?

>>2273083
u are Menshevik
u vote democrat

>>2273108
I'm not American

>>2273114
u r democrackka
u worship americans
u wish u were american

>>2273119
Nobody outside the US wishes they were American
America is a third world fascist hell hole with the worst gun crime possible
I pray to Marx every night thanking him I am not a stupid fat Yankee coloniser

>>2273083
there's a reason that anarcho-communism is so popular in places like Mexico, synthesis between the two sphere with adaptions to local terrain is the only path forward, anything else is sectarian time wasting.

>>2273125
I am not American and I wish I was American
the vast majority of Africa and Asia (except China and Japan) wishes they were American
It is a very privileged thing to think that America is crap

>>2273140
Americans, even their lowest strata, have access to a lot more amenities and cheap food/consumer goods than a majority of the population, but they refuse to recognize this because all of them think they should have the lifestyle of the low bourgeois, it's why most anarchist commune fantasies are indistinguishable from aspirant petite bourgeois fantasies

>>2273149
>Americans, even their lowest strata, have access to a lot more amenities and cheap food/consumer goods than a majority of the population, but they refuse to recognize this because all of them think they should have the lifestyle of the low bourgeois, it's why most anarchist commune fantasies are indistinguishable from aspirant petite bourgeois fantasies
Yupp. That's why native born poors are too stuck up to work whereas the immigrants feel blessed to be here and quickly rise up. That's also why the FBAs hate African immigrants.

>>2273152
It's not even anyone's fault either. It's because they were raised up on garbage culture. All culture in America promotes the bourgeois dream.

>Say I don't gotta dance, I make money move If I see you and I don't speak, that means I don't fuck with you I'm a boss, you a worker, bitch, I make bloody moves
-Cardi B, famous Berniegal rapper

>>2273160
>It's not even anyone's fault either.
It's a little bit their fault, like if you can't be imbued with self awareness about the wealth you have access to I think you're just life undeserving of life at that point. Like the culture is definitely apart of it but that just strengthens the individuals resolve and entitlement, where even if they are good communists or whatever it becomes a flagellant act or the consistent "prayer" of "There is no ethical consumption under Capitalism" as they buy their 18th slop commodity

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>>2273177
You are a liar if you don't admit their entire mindset is fucked up and they are "trapped" by it. You were here resorting to begging before you took the job at Whataburger because you think of yourself as some kind of artist and leader. That's what foreigners say about Americans. Everyone seems like they think they're the star of some movie centering on their life. Even now you can't help but promote your persona and trademark. You are one of 340 million. You don't matter. No one cares. Suck it up. Being from a shit background isn't something to be proud of. The sooner you get out of that delusion the better.

>>2273177
post with your name

>>2273203
>I learned quickly you should never worry about loser leftists online like you have to say. I don't make content for you, I make content for people like my co-workers.
Back at you hombre. Kek. It's very funny how you want to put the stank of your persona over everything and then you feel like you have room to call anyone a loser. Show some fucking humility. This is exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. You are all hypnotized by bourgeois videos and culture and you think that you are too can just lollygag and get buy. It's the same reason all the idiots at the bottom can't stop buying lotto scratchers. It's pathetic. Just manage yourself. Cutback on doing stupid shit and you can get by and move up even. If you don't want to do that, that's your business, I'm not a moralist, but it's pathetic to act so pathetically and helpless when you really do have it so easy by comparison. It's all in your head.

>>2273217
I would like to. Unfortunately I have the misfortune of reading your long-winded self-aggrandizing posts. Nobody cares about this persona you are promoting.

>>2273219
>I would like to.
double-negative. I would like to not know* for clarity.

>>2273228
>4000 people read this article the day it was posted, and over 40,000 people have visited the site since. I would say that people do care, and you can make a website and speak truth to power too, and you should, anyone can do this, and we need more of it. They spend billions upon billions of dollars on propaganda for a reason.
My question is why are you so adamant about forcing yourself on this site? If you have all these numbers, why not just make your own forum? Why are you forcing yourself here?

>>2273235
Alright, but it is really fucking up the vibe we already established the way you act. We bullied off many namefags before you. Stop being so obnoxiouis.

>>2273190
Every American thinks they exist in the state of exception. It's why most of the American leftist projects fail, everyone obsessed with being the Paragon of the movement, it's also why the American Right and reactionaries eat each other, they are all the next hero.

>>2273237
HELLO MR HOUDINI
I MADE AN ANTI-HOUDINI POST YESTERDAY WHICH THE JANNIES HAVE DELETED
I MADE IT WITH MY HEART
I HOPE YOU SAW IT

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>>2273247
>I am willing to bet that you think dead end minimum wage jobs are some noble struggle because you're from a background where you'll never have to do that work.
Didn't say that at all. Just as you've decided it's better than:
> I was making 4x more than I will be at this job when I was moving packs but you know, when you have a friend do a 5 year min, you don't wanna do that shit.
I said your dream is to bourgeois dream. You think, as is promoted by the rap music, that because you came from some challenging background, you have some extra "character" because of it, and you are now special, and you deserve some karmic debt in remuneration for being some cool badass or something.

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>>2273235

you folks are talking as if American workers are unique in this situation
others have it a hundred times worse
you burgers just like to bitch and moan

>>2273255
I like to spearhead the Anti-Houdini movement though I disapprove of people who talk shit about your fast food job.
That is elitism and that is something the Houdinists engage in. Anti-Houdinists are friends of the people, we do not look down on others. Specially when we ourselves are unemployed.

>>2273261
>I like to spearhead the Anti-Houdini movement though I disapprove of people who talk shit about your fast food job.
I didn't talk shit about it, I just talked shit about how he thinks he's too good for it. He hasn't even worked there a week yet and he's flipping out about it.

>>2273259
I'm an American and I'm bitching and moaning on how we have it better but act like we're on an imperial periphery being exploited on the same level as the Banana Farmer in Colombia being gunned down by the AUC.

>>2273264
you are a clear-headed man
you will succeed in life

>>2273266
I only pointed out the self-pity bullshit Americans have
I never said revolution in the imperial core is not necessary, it is most necessary in fact
I am a third worlder, but I am not a Third Worldist
Third Worldism is Houdinist retardation, like left-communism, Maoism, and fascism

>>2273263
ah my apologies I misread you
So you are Anti-Houdini bitching, not anti-FastFoodist .
You are a good man .
Houdini will be dealt with in due time

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>>2273147
holy shit you even unironically use the word 'Houdinism'
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, HOLY SHIT!!!

>>2273278
He's still stuck in the Anal Stage.

>>2273278
You can just tell that this dude loves the smell of his own farts.

>>2273287
poodini

>>2273287
>>2273285
he deleted his posts
Now I feel bad
I never wanted to be a bully

>>2273312
Yeah honestly, I don't have any critique against him from a personal & organizational standpoint.

I just don't like how pompous, self-righteous, and entitled that he comes across sometimes with the way he was acting like he was creating a brand new theory and naming it after himself and all of that jazz. That sort of thing is just something I'm not a huge fan of and I'd almost say it's as bad as Felix, but he hasn't gotten to the point of fedposting on a daily basis yet at least. So there's that going for him.

I remember some anarkkkoid on here comparing it to the Paris Commune. Funniest shit I've ever seen.

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>>2271553
>calling it CHAZ or CHOP
>not CHAD
heh dumbasses

>>2273335
CHAD HAZ?
NOOOO IM GONNA GET BANNED FOR THIS
<ITS A JOKE JANNIES, ITS A JOKE(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2271611
>Anarchists say nothing on how to get there. They talk as if the state can just be deleted at will instantly
Is this that different from Lenin talking about smashing the bourgeois state and building the proletarian one? Which is not even what ended up happening in Russia, a lot of pre-revolutionary institutions and personnel were preserved. By the early 20s at the latest the Soviets had only nominal power.

Yeah guys it kinda makes sense that chaz wuz le fascist. Le state allowed stuff to happen there you know. You could see reactionaries take power there, setting up check points, lynching people and shit

Le chaz wuz state glowie experiment of doing fascism

>>2271616

I don't even recognise these guys as anarchists, the ideology that came to define them was 'legitimate/righteous violence'. Once you start down that path, you ALWAYS end up with extrajudicial executions. These guys would have ended up shooting each other given time

>>2273425
Wtf jannies

>>2274656
Tbh tho that's how most American anarchists act in practice, let's not lie to ourselves, it's either hippie commune that seems like fascistic or adventurist 'righteous violence' and propaganda of the deed

I am for an anarchist genocide
I hate anarchists

I love sectarianism from useless edgelords

>>2274987
your mom


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