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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
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Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • Crimea vs Taiwan: Who Gets Self-Determination? - BadEmpanada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_UH4fmyj0

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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>>2279247
I am curious about the author's positions. This is his only article on TM and he, apparently, shares a name with a deceased soviet diplomat, so who knows what his history is.

>>2279181
>We are internationalists. We support working class self activity in every country and oppose the borders that physically, violently, and ideologically divide workers from one another. We are always on the side of ordinary people in their quest for democracy and self-determination and liberation against authoritarian rule.

>We are principally opposed to imperialism, which we understand to be the manifestation of capitalist relations at the level of the nation-state. Imperialism is not an abstract concept, it is the inevitable outgrowth of a system built on profit and competition between capitalist states. As the economic crisis intensifies, so too will ramped up rivalries between different countries. Military activity is part of the package of attacks on working class people internationally.


>We vehemently oppose US imperialism, which has destroyed the lives of our brothers and sisters across the world and has served as the justification for amped up islamophobia and xenophobia. We also hold a principled opposition to all imperial interests that are competing for international power. Instead of choosing sides with one imperial bloc over the other, we look to the strengthening of working class solidarity internationally as the central opposition to capitalism.


These uyghurs post here?

>>2279374
You know, I only post shit like "kill westoids" as a sort of a venting meme here, and I'm much more internationalistic and hopeful in real life, but reading all of that filled me with extreme dread and depression.

>>2279374
>neither Moscow nor Washington!
<but really… ;)

>>2279378
>venting meme
Literally every single "anti-campist" has their ass firmly planted in the West, Every. Single. One. Even the publications in Spanish.

"Silence, Third Worlder - a Third-Worldist is speaking"? More like "Silence, Third Worlder - a Westerner is speaking".

>>2279396
Many such cases!

>>2279396
wasnt Chang magazine exposed as all white westerners lol ?

>>2279407
All such cases.

>We have been slimed. An article by Ben Norton and Max Blumenthal on the recent Socialism 2019 Conference — which appears on their rancid website, The GrayZone, and is apparently being widely circulated — is a scurrilous attack not only on the conference itself, but also on one of our editors, Dan La Botz, and indeed on the entire political outlook of socialism from below, which has always been the defining perspective of our journal.


>New Politics was a sponsor of the conference, a major gathering that drew 1,500 participants – members of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), former members of the now defunct International Socialist Organization (ISO), and a host of unaffiliated radicals and socialists as well as people from other groups. We were proud to support the event, which featured dialogue and debate among people who, in stark contrast to Blumenthal and Norton, recognize the centrality of democracy, labor rights, and civil liberties to socialism.


>Norton and Blumenthal characterize the conference speakers as “a motley crew of regime-change activists” eager to “demonize Official Enemies of Washington” – by which they mean the authoritarian governments of Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Cuba, and Nicaragua. For Norton and Blumenthal, this “demonization” consists in “exploiting the cause of human rights or labor rights to undermine and destabilize foreign governments that Washington has targeted for regime change.” To them, denouncing China’s mass incarceration of up to a million members of the country’s Uyghur minority in concentration camps, or even drawing attention to it, to take but one example, is nothing more than carrying out the agenda of the State Department.


>What Norton and Blumenthal, and their co-thinkers in what they call the “anti-imperialist left,” exhibit is essentially a revival of Cold War thinking, with a distinctly neo-Stalinist flavor: the world is divided into two camps, one dominated by the United States, and the other consisting of its enemies. The left must solidarize itself with the anti-Washington camp, no matter how brutal, corrupt and dictatorial its leaders, no matter how many of its citizens languish in prison cells, suffer in torture chambers, or lie dead in the streets. We at New Politics unreservedly reject this morally bankrupt politics. We have always stood for vigorous, consistent opposition to both U.S. imperialism and to the tyrannies that pose as socialist or anti-imperialist.


>Norton and Blumenthal do not merely claim that those in the socialism from below tradition “objectively” promote the interests of U.S. imperialism; they falsely accuse us – and other speakers at the Socialism 2019 Conference, such as the heroic journalist Anand Gopal, who delivered a powerful talk on the death of the Arab Spring in Syria — of actually supporting Washington’s wars and actively promoting the work of the CIA and the State Department. These are shameless lies that defame lifelong principled radicals and socialists. Even a cursory examination of the New Politics journal and website will demonstrate with the utmost clarity that we have never given any support to U.S. imperialism. Our co-editor Dan La Botz has fought against every war and military intervention launched by Washington since Vietnam. At the same time, we stand by our critique of the governments of Cuba and Nicaragua as part of our consistent defense of democratic rights and opposition to the rule of elites everywhere.


>Norton and Blumenthal make much of the fact that some of the conference speakers were affiliated with human rights and labor rights groups that have received funding from the National Endowment for Democracy. New Politics has carried articles exposing and condemning the NED and its influence on groups such as the American Federation of Teachers; quite often members of such groups have little or no idea what the NED represents, but we think unions, human rights and left groups should have nothing to do with it. We reject, however, the crude claim that receipt of NED money automatically discredits an organization or a movement.


>The soulless realpolitik of Norton and Blumenthal has nothing in common with an authentic left, “anti-imperialist” or any other kind. The left with which New Politics identifies is a political tradition of generous sympathies, always ready to offer solidarity to struggles for democracy and human dignity wherever they occur, a left that believes in the right of all people to control their governments and societies. It is of course true that Washington only invokes the crimes of Putin, Xi, Assad, Ortega, etc., hypocritically to justify its own imperialist aims. But it is entirely different for an independent left that combats its own government’s reactionary foreign and domestic policies to denounce these despots and their regimes and defend their victims. New Politics, as we have said, rejects the “campism” of Norton and Blumenthal. But there is one camp that we support wholeheartedly: the third camp of the oppressed and exploited everywhere. Neither Washington nor Moscow, Beijing, Tehran, Damascus, Havana, and Managua! For the third camp of socialist freedom!


>Aaron Amaral

>Saulo Manuel Colón Zavala
>Thomas Harrison
>Michael Hirsch
>Nancy Holmstrom
>Dan La Botz
>Scott McLemee
>Jason Schulman
>Stephen R. Shalom
>Bhaskar Sunkara
>Edward Tapia
>Lois Weiner
>Julia Wrigley

Aaron Amaral is the registrant of New Politics, and a fucking lawyer from New York. All these people are either professors, or lawyers.

>>2279181
>—militarism and blatant social inequality, harsh state policy of sexism and homophobia, the government’s information monopoly that has transformed all media into a tool of chauvinist propaganda, thousands of political prisoners (including leftists)—embodies everything that Gloss passionately wanted to fight against.
always it comes back to surface details. It never comes back to finding the weak link of imperialism and pulling on it with all your might

>>2279417
>We reject, however, the crude claim that receipt of NED money automatically discredits an organization or a movement.
>mfw

>>2279417
>Norton and Blumenthal do not merely claim that those in the socialism from below tradition “objectively” promote the interests of U.S. imperialism; they falsely accuse us – and other speakers at the Socialism 2019 Conference, such as the heroic journalist Anand Gopal, who delivered a powerful talk on the death of the Arab Spring in Syria — of actually supporting Washington’s wars and actively promoting the work of the CIA and the State Department.

Well, gee.

https://tempestmag.org/2024/12/understanding-the-rebellion-in-syria/
<The rebellion in Syria has taken the world by surprise and led to the fall of the Assad family dictatorship, which has ruled Syria since Bashar al-Assad’s father, Hafez, took power in a coup d’etat 54 years ago. Neither the regime’s military forces nor its imperial sponsor, Russia, and its regional backer, Iran, were able to defend it. Cities under the regime’s control have been freed, thousands of political prisoners liberated from its notorious dungeons, and space opened for a new fight for a free, inclusive, and democratic Syria for the first time in decades.

https://tempestmag.org/2025/03/so-called-axis-of-resistance/
<Truth be told, Iran is not a principled or consistent opponent of U.S. imperialism. For instance, Iran collaborated with U.S. imperialism in its invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq. Nor is Iran a reliable ally of Palestinian liberation. For example, when Hamas refused to support Assad’s regime and its brutal crackdown on the Syrian uprising in 2011, Iran cut its financial assistance to the Palestinian movement.

What would give anyone that idea?

>>2279417
>We reject, however, the crude claim that receipt of NED money automatically discredits an organization or a movement.
>bro, resceiving funds from the United states mean nothing bro bro bro.
it's what a glowie and a tool of the US would say for having their sponsored narrative questioned by the hand up their ass.

>>2279181
Boring article really because it's all polemics. Didn't learn anything about this guy. The anecdote about the French foreign fighters who joined the Russian side to fight the wokeness is funny though, but didn't mention they said (apparently, I saw this elsewhere) that they don't sing the Marseillaise because that's a republican anthem and they're monarchists.


>>2279417
The local "revolutionary socialists" org I've been attending just launched a gofundme to send its members to Socialist Conference 2025.

>>2279211
Mehnopaüze

>>2279181
>muh antifascism

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>>2279211
Crow's Feet


>>2279374
>class struggle takes priority to colonialism and you are not allowed to temporary ally with the national bourgeoisie cause thats class collaboration and recognizing self determination as progressive compared to imperialism is actually mewsolini because there are no proletarian nations but actually there are bourgeois nations like russia and since we firmly believe all conflicts are inter-imperialist instead of only exposing our own bourgeoisie and working to turn imperialist war into class war we spend all our time making detailed lists of everything bad about the enemy of our own bourgeoisie inflaming and justifying war propaganda as True Communists should. As Lenin says such work is "the duty of the true internationalist".

Anyone who opposes real opposition to Western imperialism in favor of purity tests is working for glowies. Anyone who can't contextualize resistance and insists on moralism in a (bourgeois) vacuum is doing the work of glowies

>>2279664
But you are a glownonymous

This is why you raise your standards above basic bitch left-wing talking points, like "public transportation good" and "Israel bad".

At this point "socialism from below" is just a dogwhistle for NED-approved pseudo-socialist. Beat their faces in with hammers.

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Special Security Buffer Zone Operation incoming. This will be to contain the Banderini filth from spreading eastward and will wind up with the Russians sitting super close to Kywi

Geopolitics is bourgeosie politics, though

>>2279730
Wonder what Russian troop movements were on the border with Ukraine. And how much Russia is committing to the new offensive.

>>2279664
>Anyone who supports Russian imperialism and are in favor of Russian liberalism are FSB glowies. Anyone who can't contextualize inter-imperialist conflicts and insists on moralism in a (bourgeois) vacuum is doing the work of FSB glowies

>>2279732
I still don't understand where's the separation line between ordinary politics and enlightened smart geopolitics lie

>>2279841
It’s at the precise point where tallying up how many revolutions have been coup’d, influenced or crushed by western intelligence agencies, gets compared to how many times domestic bourgeoisies manage to crush local revolutions. Because that’s the point where you have to conclude that the inaction of western leftists in toppling their own governments and intelligence agencies is the key factor blocking global revolution, not everyone in the third world being gay bashing, women enslaving, strong man adoring, uneducated troglodytes

>>2279651
honestly you're highlighting the contradictions well

>>2279838
western intelligence agencies are global and actually penetrate media, especially digital media which is almost entirely controlled by the west. this follows from how global military spending is dominated by the west. secondarily, lib soft power is a soft extension of the state

this is the poverty of libs coping about a lopsided intelligence battle with russia. it's largely driven by the rise of populists and russian exploitation of it. this ended up part of denial on the part of libs that they created populism, russia, and other rebellions through their own slide into global dictatorship, which western intelligence has had a hand in at least since the period between 9/11 and russiagate.
this is why liberals detach from independents and conservatives in trust of intelligence agencies and cable news monopolies in the 2010s

>>2279699
>At this point "socialism from below" is just a dogwhistle for NED-approved pseudo-socialist. Beat their faces in with hammers

Many western socialists come from privileged backgrounds and identify with values and government compatibility with them. They aren't really materialists understanding where those values come from. The idea the West is more reactionary than the east, and in fact represents dictatorship in the modern era when empires and monarchs are long gone, is unthinkable and shamed.

This is why they consistently are third campist in global politics where there are massive differences between nations and states (but they hate these things) while first campist within partisan politics and elections, where differences are smaller but there's lots of campaigning for values and culture

The bright spot is people born in the late 20th century onward are collapsing in liberal values and like left or right populists, meaning this pro imperialist faux popular front shit we've been doing since trump/brexit is an interregnum position reacting to the decline of liberalism after 2008. There's no tbought deeper than that, that's why we clash with it over the collapse of post cold war armistice with Russia and refuse to accept a democracy battle against it. Actually, we see a lot of evidence of a struggle for national sovereignty of Russia from European imperialism

>>2279876
Nice theoretical contribution to marxism gommunism gomrade

>>2279879
I’d be able to sympathise, because no one gets involved or interested in politics to feel like they’re the problem with a given situation, but they’re just so entitled to the idea that they’re the global Marxist vanguard because industrialisation came to the west first, or Marxist texts describe relations in Europe circa 19th century to early 20th century, or because social liberalism gets more support in their societies than elsewhere. Like, they claim that “Geopolitics are bourgeois!” while asserting that revolution must be global, the only way to reconcile that contradiction of geopolitics being both not of interest to global proletariat but successful movements requiring the participation of the global proletariat, is to understand that perhaps it’s not even vanguardism, but instead western leftists see themselves as almost messianic, the chosen who will lead the unworthy to the rapture of global communism, if they could just stop sinfully supporting nationalistic dictators for five minutes, gawh!

>>2279935
>but instead western leftists see themselves as almost messianic, the chosen who will lead the unworthy to the rapture of global communism
Actually, I’ve just realised that’s what permanent revolution essentially is.

>>2279935
>>2279841
Geopolitics is bourgeosie politics. Great soviet encyclopedia said so

>>2279942
I’m newer and fresher than any Soviet encyclopedia

>>2279943
Le modernizer opportunist stalinist

>>2279953
Le buzzword enjoyer

>>2279984
Yes (chadface.png)

>>2280002
Based, ngl.m4v

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Anti-campist was imprisoned in Russia

In Ryazan, a military court sentenced anarchist Ruslan Siddiqi to 29 years for attacking a military airfield and blowing up a train in the Ryazan region in 2023, as well as for training in terrorism. The accused partially admitted his guilt. In addition to imprisonment, the court imposed a fine of 2 million rubles.

According to the case file, in 2023, Sidiki was trained by the Ukrainian special services to carry out terrorist activities in Russia. First in Turkey, and then in Latvia, Sidiki attended oral and written briefings.

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>when you go away from "reforms", you become communist

>>2280332
>All the democratic forces are with me
<Who gives a fuck, what about the military and secret police?
Damn Bill, no beating around the bush with that guy

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>>2279211
chat what surgery is this called

>>2280327
>Sidiki was trained by the Ukrainian special services to carry out terrorist activities in Russia
that's campism tho
queue a million copes


>>2279211

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