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>>2284752 >>22872542014: Robbery charge and juvenile detention
2016–2017: Attempted murder
2018: Assault, weapons and kidnapping
2019: Assault and battery lawsuit
2019: Miami shooting, probation violation, and house arrest
2020: Baton Rouge arrest for federal firearm and drug offenses
2021–2022: California federal firearm charge and Baton Rouge federal firearm and drug charge
2024–2025: Utah arrest for drug and fraud charges
At 25 years old, Gaulden is the confirmed father of ten children with seven different women, however, there are unconfirmed rumors of an additional two children with two other women.[
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/YoungBoy_Never_Broke_Again >>2287272Trump pardoned a lot of rappers his first term. I guess he just wants to show he's down with the Blacks and he knows that:
>#Free(insert gangster rapper name here)Are the most popular and important issues facing Black America.
>>2287275Besides, Lil Wayne, He also pardoned Kodak Black his first term and some other rap people.
>>2287278>It literally worked in his first term a lot of black people voted for him just because he pardoned some rappers. Not enough to make a sizable difference mind you but I couldn't stop encountering MAGA black dudes who base their entire politics around him helping rich black men.Black America is very easy to please.
>>2287195obviously that white girl needs Big Arab
Dick Oil Money. BAOM baby.
>inb4 the account owner is a Hindutva. >>2287315"being innocent is not enough"
Welp, that's what happens when you start to pardon literal criminals. at some point other criminals will ask for more.
total ameriburger annihilation at some point.
>>2287331armchairing some food, so kind of on a diet.
>>2287341>people on here acted as I didn't. I said: "wake me up when the indexes return to covid-era levels".
>>2287374Not happening
All the other candidates will bow out and endorse Lander
AOC will too
>>2287389the democrats are pouring tons of money into ezra klein "abundance" neoliberalism rebranded 2.0 since they realize that old neoliberalism had a bad rap
they are basically abandoning even the pretense of being economically egalitarian or social liberal let alone socdem, they are basically the full party of market oriented yuppies.
It's just woke Reaganonomics
>>2287417I'm sure this will go nowhere, just like their last couple attempts at revoking visas en-masse. Due process is a bitch, and they're not just visitors that can be removed anytime for any reason
>>2287430I'm not really sure what these elected retards think that Chinese students do all day. All research they do is published in scientific journals and is available to the public (for a price, but that's a different issue). There's very few students that get to sign an NDA and work with company IP
>>2287402>>2287404oh, kind of like a …third way.
sounds promising
>>2287459neoliberal democrats were called "third way" back in the 90s
>>2287404blue team has been neoliberal since they lost to reagan. did you wake up from a coma
>>2287458nta but isn't it a bit or a sketch for the camera? Like satire.
I've seen a "pedo hunter" slop floating around youtube. From what I gleamed, it was little more than a redo of the "prank" genre of cheap incitement vandalism and harassment. I hope it's not that taking root. Again.
>>2287164I'm also left-leaning, but this is a little extreme don't you think?
Obviously America has it's flaws. But if we stoop to this level, we're not much better than the people supporting Trump. While we're not authoritarians, we sometimes risk coming across that way, and that will only lose us support and ensure Trump wins a third time.
We should be grown adults about this and recognize that we can't rebuild America until when Kamala gets elected in 2028, and even that depends on how the midterms go next year.
>>2287484There is no way the USA isn't launching a military campaign against Iran, the only member of BRICS they can directly attack. And which has been fucking with their middle east hegemony as of recent. Either that, or another proxy war on Yemen or whatever.
But someone is bringing back the specter of 9/11 one way or another.
It'd be so funny if they kept building the Trump assassination angle and the glowies dispensed of him after he's done being a president. A nice farce to echo JFKs assassination. >>2287447Class impacts dating but some women are just attracted to older men just like some guys are attracted to older women.
>>2287496Feds did MLK, CIA did JFK.
>>2287501When they say "working class" they don't mean all wage workers they just mean trades/construction.
And yes the working class is completely disorganized and weak in the west.
>>2287507>When they say "working class" they don't mean all wage workers they just mean trades/construction. >And yes the working class is completely disorganized and weak in the west.Good point.
Is there any other way to organize the working class at this present time other than through unions? This is directed at everyone by the way. I don't think the time is ripe for armed struggle.
>>2287512tay-k? didn't he shoot a dude in the head for
no reason clout? the race isn't even that good of a song.
>>228759717F and 22M relationships are not motivated by the pay gap. The zoomie ambush was organized by a jealous manlet who couldn't get any.
>>2287611The Feds are the FBI
>>2287661My hypothesis is that democratic men are probably feeling a little emasculated and might actually radicalize due to that. Democratic women however are fine with the aurafarming going on.
>>2287662Wild
>>2287504The DM conveniently left out something about the Gladio Nazi General: Gehlen lead under Hitler the East European SS auxiliaries, including Bandera and his gang. After the war he founded and lead the West-German Federal Intelligence Service (BND).
It's interesting though that JFK and CIA/Dulles are mentioned in the same article, never seen that before.
>>2287679>broke away from Britain because they wanted more slavesName one event leading up to the American Revolution that was over the preservation or expansion of slavery.
The left needs to be a lot less comfortable just saying shit. History is firmly on our side, there's no need to embellish it.
>>2287723>The English crown had (temporary, opportunistic) treaties with the indigenous that limited western expansionNot slavery.
>The colonial ruling class wanted western expansion because it meant more plantation land. Who would that be worked by? Slaves.Many of the western territories would be free, but that's neither here nor there because the consideration of slavery didn't cross most slave-owners minds until the conflict had already started.
>And all money going towards paying taxes to England meant less money that could be spent on importing more slaves and acquiring more land. Just because they were intellectuals who were smart enough to crow about "liberty" in their public-facing documents doesn't mean the motivation wasn't there. And some of them "opposed" slavery in a reformist sense, but none of them opposed it to the extent that they were willing to risk civil war over it. All the soft "abolitionist" founding fathers kicked the can down the road while those in favor of slavery wished to expand it westward. This contradiction existed right at the founding and you're mad that people notice it. ummmmmmmmmmmm they didn't technically say it out loud so it wasn't real.No one is in disagreement that the "Founding Fathers" were bad guys and massive hypocrites. The issue is you spewing obvious, verifiable bullshit because you think it makes the Founding Fathers/American revolutionaries look a little bit worse.
History is, once again, on our side. There's no reason to pepper history with a bunch of lies that only serve to exaggerate the point and (I suspect) make us look like a bunch of charlatans who don't care for the truth.
The problem with the age gap discourse is that you can't just be like, yeah, you're an adult at 18, do whatever the fuck you want, it doesn't matter. Because as soon as I say that, there's going to be some weird-ass motherfucker who's going to try to argue that that's not cool. That, oh, we don't need an age of consent, bro. And then we, okay, well, you know what? Well, maybe we just don't fucking talk to each other. How about that? How about if you're, if there's a three-year age difference between us and we're not compatible, how about that? Because people want to be fucking weird with it, huh? We can't just be like, well, yeah, once you turn 18, you're an adult, you can do whatever the fuck you want because we've decided that that's the age that you become an adult, and we can do an age, that seems like a good one. It's never that simple. Nope, there's always some pedophile who's got to make their fucking problems. So yeah, now we have grooming discourse and age gap discourse, and you know what? I'm not even going to blame it on anyone else but the pedos. Simple as. Because they are the ones who want to argue about the most important aspect to agree on with this shit, which is the age of consent, the time you become an adult has to be set at a specific time. Otherwise, this shit just gets lost in the mud. There cannot be a fucking gray area for this shit. But because motherfuckers want to create a gray area, well then, and really actually do harm to people, now we've got these weird-ass fucking dating rituals. I'm 28, I can't date a 24-year-old, otherwise I would be grooming her. What are we fucking doing?
>>2287922I think a lot of the age gap discourse, Loki, is progressive language masking a way to control women and reduce their agency. Because this is what I'm thinking in my mind. Why do we infantilize women? Why is it okay? Yeah, she's 20 and he's 26, so she's just incapable of understanding that there's a six-year difference, which in the grand scheme of things isn't very much. They're both still in their 20s. One of them is in college, one of them is freshly out. There's very little difference in terms of age. It doesn't make a difference. But still, this is a very common scenario to see on the internet. And then it's like, well, he's controlling or he's doing this or he's doing that. What is that really doing? But taking these women who are legal adults, who are navigating the world, who are doing shit, and alienate them, isolate them. And then also, and paints the dudes as like this inherently predatory group. And furthermore, damn, who does it benefit in a hyper-alienated society? Who does it benefit? Because there's a class element that's never fucking mentioned with this shit for people in their 20s to not talk to each other. Who does it benefit for the 21-year-old and the 29-year-old to not speak because there's an eight-year age gap? But they're both in their 20s. They're both dealing with the same economic struggles and issues. And they're both dealing with the lack of work hours. They're both dealing with the lack of healthcare. They're both dealing with car-centric infrastructure and high prices. They're both dealing with all these things because the age doesn't negate the class connection. So now we're this hyper-alienated society where we have intentionally removed any potential of community, any potential of connection over arbitrary bullshit that the capitalists created. Oh yeah, we can't be friends. I'm a Gen Z alpha and they're a Z lineal. We have a seven-year gap between us. We have nothing in common. We're like two different species. There's no way we could get along. This is fucking intentional division by the capitalists with the flavor of reducing the agency of women masking as progressive values. A lot of this age gap discourse is low-key reactionary as fuck because you can't tell me that a 21-year-old woman isn't cognizant enough to go date someone who's 10 years older than her. She doesn't know what the fuck the dynamics are. It doesn't make sense. You're infantilizing these people. You're doing it in the name of progressive language. And I hate that liberalism does this, that liberalism progress is never about empowering the person. It's about making them feel immature and giving them more of their childhood or something. It doesn't make sense.
>>2287934Ultimately, I think there is a lack of class analysis that leads to this sort of schizophrenic worldview. Well, yeah, no, no. Someone who's 22 can't date someone who, or they can't even be friends. You can't even be friends with someone who's 26 if you're 22. That's too much of an age gap. You know, they have too much power over you. But really, do they? Because why do we assume that age equals power? You could be 35 years old and working at a Burger King, barely getting by. And you could be 21 making millions of dollars as an influencer. If a 21-year-old influencer who's making millions of dollars went into a Burger King and said, I want to date you, random guy who's working the register, does the guy working at the Burger King have more power than that woman, even though because he's five years older than her? If you think that's true, you're out of your fucking mind. It doesn't make sense. You could say that there's maybe a physical difference or something. But to say that, yeah, she clearly has more power in that situation. She has the ability to change this person's life. And obviously, that's a more extreme example. But it shows us that there's a class element that goes into these relationships. Yes, because if a 35-year-old man who's fucking got everything handled in his life, who's got a lot of money, who's in a good class position, goes to a chick who's 19 and working at the Dollar Tree, not even able to pay her rent, hey, I can help you. And then, yeah, then there's something that'll be discussed there. But it doesn't have anything to do with their age, necessarily. It has to do with their class position. But liberalism can never acknowledge the class position. So you get this weird schizo theory that propagates itself through our society. It doesn't actually make sense, but no one ever questions it because they don't want to come out and look like the guy who's not the conservative, who's not the progressive type. You can't ever question this shit because, oh, yeah, well, it's the progressive view. And being progressive is good. Don't you want to be a good person? Don't think too much about it.
>>2287681Wrong. Why do these liberals always resort to crystal ball reading rather than actually look at plain fact?
Oil prices are down 16 percent since jan 1. In Texas, the oil and natural gas industry saw a net gain of 1,700 jobs last month, reversing a loss of 800 in March.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/article_c309d40f-3016-438e-be58-81b70b3db904.html#:~:text=Upstream%20oil%20and%20natural%20gas,salary%20of%20$128%2C000%20in%202024.
The liberals must read sun tzu. Decieve the enemy, not yourself. The wise general prohibits taking of omens and look to battlefield for answers instead.
>>2287475Dude, the dems are gonna be dead in the water if they decide to go with anyone besides AOC by then.
Everybody's sick of corporate neoliberal shills like Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Bill & Hillary Clinton, and Pete Buttigieg who keep on pretending to be the opposition when in reality, they're the same feather of the capitalist bird and they're more than willing to throw minority groups under the bus in failed attempts to appeal to the current voter base of the GOP that simultaneously alienate their own voter base.
>>2287475>I'm also left-leaningLOL
LMAO
Once the fascists and conservatives have been culled, American liberals are next
>>2287947That's right patriot only in real proletarian states of this country do we grow produce, or have any kind of manufacturing.
>>2287975t. Democrap from Hollyweird! lol!
>>2288021Even if he wins, there's still the main election itself to worry about.
For which, it's incredibly likely that Cuomo will pull a Byron Brown and run a sore loser campaign on the independent line after losing the primary.
This is but one of the many ways that the dems crush any attempts at grassroots progressive movements from within the party.
>>2287741>the consideration of slavery didn't cross most slave-owners minds until the conflict had already started.The rest of anon's post was saying that westward expansion (which the crown slowed down to the chagrin of the local ruling class who lived in the 13 colonies) was an incentive for the slave owning class to expand slavery not that treaties with indigenous = slavery. this means that if you were a slave owner, even if you wanted some kind of long term reformist road to abolition, in the short term it was still in your interests to acquire that land and work it in the cheapest way possible. so yes, the formulation "more slaves and fewer taxes" is a bit crude, but it's not entirely untruthful. For the colonist planters like George Washington, fewer taxes meant more slaves.
> the consideration of slavery didn't cross most slave-owners minds until the conflict had already started.the ruling class is class conscious of their own interests
I think it's interesting how we as a country argue over the legacy of the founding fathers and the various presidents. I think it's interesting that Communists have always for example appropriated the image of Lincoln in their propaganda while the fascists were always more likely to honor Washington. Because Lincoln was a poor man raised in a log cabin who emancipated the slaves (oversimplification but essentially true) while Washington was a rich man raised in a mansion who owned slaves (oversimplification but essentially true).
>>2288048i'm seeing the re-emergence of guild like structures in certain companies. like at my company they care less about college degrees than they used to because nobody can afford them. instead we're seeing de-skilling and division of labor, coupled with mentorship programs and a stronger emphasis on seniority, even if you're less formally educated.
College tuition was always too expensive but it became even more prohibitively expensive as the decades wore on, and to me it's less important than ever because it's easier than ever to pirate educational materials and teach yourself. Books are more expensive than ever but they're also easier to download than ever. And why would someone pay money to drive across town and attend a lecture in public when you could watch a few free lectures on youtube? The sentimental factor of being in person and the ability to ask questions live is kind of nice, but is it really worth the gas money and then time spent stuck in traffic both ways? And who is going to learn better, someone half-asleep dragging themselves from one class to the next in the name of cramming for tests and accumulating arbitrary credits for a degree? Or someone genuinely dedicated to a subject because they have real interest in it? In my work place almost nothing I learned in school is ever practically applied and I'm glad I dropped out of college and never took a student loan.
>>2288102It's contradicting the implied point that their employer has to hire people without degrees because the price of degrees is preventing capable people from getting one. In fact, it's never been more common to have a degree in the US than it is today. Not that this point really needed a rebuttal, because the idea that their employer is so hecking wholesome 100 that they would accept people without degrees purely to save their employees money is absurd.
A few companies are turning away from degree requirements only because they can pay workers without degrees less.
>>2288150>I'm really noticing more and more that basically all politics is done by sexual deviants in one way or anotherWell once you impose the regressive social values, the offenses becomes a privilege. The more repressive the norm, the greater the taboo, the greater the privilege of getting away with it.
Not in secrecy often, but among privileged peers who can do it with the same impunity.
>>2288150so let's look at the context of this conversation
>revisionist reactionary shows up and denies nazi homophobia and tries to link them to the sexual science institute they later burned down>reactionary ignores the response where concentration camp badges for homosexuals are shown>reactionary comes back later to reply to himself with another derail "dang all politics are run by muh degens"stop this. stop this now.
>>2288279>sandi anon once again shows up, ignores the entire context of the conversation, and takes the side of the random reactionaries against the people low effort dunking on themwow it must be a day that ends in Y
>incelmarried with children
>you're saying they had sexno I'm just dunking on a guy who started the conversation with muh homofascism gorkyposting
>>2287434>Communist stock marketlook at my communists dawg
the working class will never be free
>>2288314This but unironically
Capitalism won and finally and forever raped the weak pathetic working class
>>2288060While I wouldn't doubt that some slave-owning farmers would have considered Westward expansion as an opportunity to gain new properties, the bulk of the push for westward expansion was from the broader, plebeian populace. They were basically former peasants who had come for the supposed free land and didn't want to hear that there was no more free land because they weren't allowed past the Appalachians. Plantation owners were already wealthy, well established and held significant property.
>the ruling class is class conscious of their own interestsSure, but for the ruling classes of the colonies, that meant resisting British taxes and restrictions on trade, along with preserving their own political paradigms which saw them as the ruling class against an ever more intrusive interference by the British government. The preservation or expansion of slavery didn't really enter the calculus until the war was already on and the British started freeing and recruiting slaves.
There is no reason why you can't say "the Founding Fathers were a bunch of hypocritical slave-owning bastards, and "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!" became a fight to preserve slavery after the British started freeing and recruiting slaves into their armies!" You don't have to phrase it as essentially a lie.
And this isn't some revolutionary strike against the American establishment. This exact narrative is supported by major factions within the American government and media for what I can only assume is some nefarious purpose. Maybe to discredit the left by getting us to latch on to some obviously false wingnut narrative because it condemns the United States in slightly harsher terms?
>>2288072I think a lot of Nazis liked to think of themselves as being highly sophisticated and civilized people who were going to build ~an empire~ with giant models of their new Kultur. Now that clashed with the barbarism of Nazi atrocities and there was a lot of cognitive dissonance about that. The Nazis weren't just mere racists you know, they were SCIENTIFIC racists. And I think groups like the KKK looked to them like unruly cowboys. It was a form of class prejudice. Kind of reminds me of Richard Spencer who sees himself as an elite and educated person and then starts being like gaahhhh at MAGA because of how gutter and lumpen it is.
But I guess there were a lot of people like that in the Nazi ranks too, so I dunno.
>>2288073That makes sense.
>>2288249That's true they tried to crash meetings and the new ones don't measure up, but from what I heard from an older guy, the LaRouchies were the ones who actually got beat up.
>>2288574wait a second… that's quite a bit of money for his time! that's… GASP,
LE RESERVES!!!
he is LE PETTY BOURGEOIS!!!1!
we have no choice but to abandon communism
>>2288340>British taxes and restrictions on trade such as the transatlantic slave trade
>There is no reason why you can't say "the Founding Fathers were a bunch of hypocritical slave-owning bastards, and "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!" became a fight to preserve slavery after the British started freeing and recruiting slaves into their armies!" You don't have to phrase it as essentially a lie.to say that the founding fathers wanted more slaves and fewer taxes is essentially a crude sloganized way of saying exactly this
>>2288617i think 2028 will come down to buttgig vs newsome.
Maybe AOC will be a dark horse if she runs, but she would get shafted by the dnc bernie style
>>2288740Yeah, but what Dessailines did is what scares them,
how could you kill your slavers after napoopan took your freedom away again!? 😡
>>2288617>bankerhttps://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-sudden-but-well-deserved-fall-of-rahm-emanuelDemocrats can't even admit there are issues, they want to elect one of the biggest neoliberal globalist death cultists:
>Emanuel’s prodigious energy, along with his contempt for what he called “liberal theology,” rocketed him higher and higher into the Clinton stratosphere. “He gets things done,” Clinton’s chief of staff, Erskine Bowles, enthused late in 1996, when Emanuel usurped George Stephanopoulos as senior adviser for policy and strategy. Among his special projects was helping to pass the North American Free Trade Agreement and the 1994 crime bill. He also tried to push Clinton to the right on immigration, advising the President, in a memo in November, 1996, to work to “claim and achieve record deportations of criminal aliens.” These all, in the fullness of time, turned out to be mistakes.>NAFTA, in alienating the Party’s working-class base, contributed to the Democrats losing control of the House of Representatives in 1994. As for the crime bill, which included a “three strikes” provision that mandated life terms for criminals convicted of violent crimes even if their other two offenses were nonviolent, Clinton himself has apologized for it, saying that the policy “made the problem worse.” The attempt to out-Republican the Republicans on immigration never took off. Republicans are the party solely associated with vindictive immigration policies, which leaves them in the long-term crisis they’re finding themselves in now—identified as anathema by Latinos, the nation’s fastest-growing ethnic group. If Rahm had had his way, that never would have happened. >>2288856Which ones?
There's people slated to die and people not slated to die.
>>2288864Not a problem, they have to deliver once they defeat Drumpf
If they do, great who cares who does it as long as it is done.
The real problem is they won't
>>2288867I mean there were some people pushing back at least.
>>2288869Probably.
>>2288875Are you saying I'm glowing or just those individuals I mentioned?
>>2288899>>2288900"The proles can be allowed intellectual freedom because they have no intellect"
- Emmanuel Goldstein
>>2288923I've seen these graphs a lot, what tool produces them?
I use Harvard's but, though similar it's not the same.
https://atlas.hks.harvard.edu/explore/treemap?exporter=country-332 >>2288899I wish I could have conversations like that with my coworkers. Maybe then we could pursue forming a union.
Then again it's more of the very nature of the job itself that makes it unbearable, so maybe nothing can be done.
>>2288600>such as the transatlantic slave tradeThe British weren't restricting the slave trade, they were shutting down ports and trying to force the colonists to trade only with the British East India Company.
>to say that the founding fathers wanted more slaves and fewer taxes is essentially a crude sloganized way of saying exactly thisNo it isn't. It's saying that one of the causes of the American Revolution was a desire for expanded slavery. This is easily verifiable bullshit.
We actually have a kind of "sloganized" quip from the time period which isn't propagating bullshit.
>>2288941If you were to read North Vietnamese Marxist Leninist works you'd be outraged at their constant assertion, ever present in their writings, that the Franco-American imperialists were trying to impose slavery on them. What? Slavery?! That can't be right. Those Vietnamese Communists need to tone down their rhetoric. Make sure the truth is on their side. The Franco-American imperialists were
merely trying to exploit them through a comprador regime, not impose
slavery. Egads, we must be more careful with our words!
>>2288982Remember when Trump's presidency was going to look like a radlibs wishcasting of "Handmaiden's Tale" and "The man in the High Tower"?
Sorry, it just was the continuation of USAno policy everyone with a brain expected it to.
But if it counts for anything, I wish everyone who spent time on TDS were in the camps.
>>2288997 (me)
Also, how funny that the moral panic about Trump's incoming presidency happens while the Democrats were as complicit as one can be in the SCOTUS opinion and the consequent trigger laws outlawing abortion and all that shit. AND while literally genociding Gaza. AND getting their shit beat in Ukraine while parading literal self declared neo-nazis around congress.
Those were at least important issues in the voting.
Like come on. At that point, even within liberal politicking, you are already choosing between 100% Hitler and 99% Hitler.
And one of them was a terminal cancer patient which was probably also senile.
>>2288978Yes, slavery was a part of colonial society and they all lived in a society, but the assertion that the American Revolution was started to either preserve or expand slavery holds no water, and this is obvious to anyone who takes even a cursory glance at the American Revolution because there isn't even a single one of the events or incidents leading up to the outbreak of the war was over the issue of slavery, nor was a single letter written at the time about supporting the Patriot cause in order to support the slave system.
>>2288993Slavery as practiced in the colonies wasn't some kind of hyperbole made for effect when in reality it was a form of colonial exploitation. It was literal chattel slavery. Discussions of slavery in the colonial period and early US history aren't artful exaggerations or comparisons, it's about literal slavery.
This isn't exaggerating for effect. It is a lie.
Look, so let's break down why Houdini Magazine took the stance on freeing Tay-K, that it took, why I decided that this was a good play. One, it's controversial. Tay-K probably killed some people. He's got 55 years in prison. It's a controversial person. But he's also a celebrity, a talented artist. It's a well-known name, so you can attach the back issues of prison enslavement to a well-known name that's going to get attention in the media. That's why I used Tay-K as the example. Trump just freed NBA young boy, pardoned Larry Hoover, he pardoned Kodak Black. Why couldn't he pardon Tay-K? It's in the news. It's part of the spectacle right now. Let's strike while the iron's hot. A lot of leftists just do not understand how to do propaganda, how to sloganeer, how to operate with that mindset. Purity over everything to the point of counterrevolutionary dogma.
So there are a lot of people who just don't get that and will not understand why certain things are pushed for propaganda reasons. They probably don't even know who Youngboy is.
Two, it's a principled stance that's backed by theory, and it's backed by black radical thought. It's backed by material analysis, but it's still controversial, especially to people on the left. I'm being drugged in these comments. Someone even went as far as to say that prison abolition has nothing to do with socialism, or that I am a bleeding heart liberal for this sort of thing. Meanwhile, I can pull up texts from a variety of sources, none of them white, which doesn't escape me, to back up my claim. The face of leftism is a white dude from Austin, Texas who makes $90,000 a year working as a human resources officer or some other bullshit job. That's literally the face of what leftism is. It's not cool. It's cornball. If we want to tap into the culture and tap into the fucking controversy and tap into the spectacle, you've got to fucking take risky positions. And this is a really good one to take, because even if he did the action, I don't necessarily believe that 55 years in prison is restorative justice that makes the thing that he did right. What it is, though, is guaranteeing that the state has another slave for 55 years. I mean, that's facts. So of course the state has an ideological interest in wrapping up the punishment for the crime as 'justice', because they benefit from exploiting the labor of the prisoner. But is it actually restorative justice? No. So it doesn't really matter if he did it. Its deeper than that.
Furthermore, we know that this is a court system that is fundamentally biased against black people in general. So how can you have these leftists who are saying, "yeah, he deserves 55 years. It doesn't matter that he's black. If this was a socialist state, he would have gotten the same amount of time." And those people are getting the upvotes, and they're the "correct ones". But I quote Angela Davis and I'm an idealist. That's the face of the left, man. And if it's got to be me to throw a fucking match in that a little bit, try to shake things up, then it'll be me doing it. That's fine. Because I know that I'm right. I know that I'm taking the most based position. And that's all I ever do. I just stay based.
I've just been thinking a lot about the fact that I'm from Louisiana, and by and large, multiple thinkers, multiple sources, multiple people have discussed the Delta South in the context of, like, a neo-colony, right? And so my mind goes to this idea of these – some of these people who are attacking me, if it was a Palestinian artist who had been tried in an Israeli court and arrested and was sentenced to 55 years in an Israeli prison, these people would immediately, without hesitation, go, that's – something's not right. But they don't recognize that this is – that's essentially what's happening here every day. And I find that to be interesting. We've got to make that logical jump. We've got to make that leap.
>>2289139sad sad life
Houdini mag and Leftypol imageboard
Better days will come, thinking man
>>2289147wake me up when Houdini frees Palestine >.<
anything else is irrelevant
>>2289148crime will never be zero in any society, probably not at least. what are these gulags like in this situation?
>>2289149I don't know what you are talking about, I am being sincere
>>2289151yes I know they will not be zero
so what will you do with the few criminals that are left?
>>2289153sanitoriums
>>2289155>says that while sporting the flag of zionist troublemakersi shiggy
>>2289103I am now convinced you are an elaborate troll.
The fucking animal killed a man in a home invasion. He cut his ankle monitor and while on the run shot another man. And you want to free him? Because he makes music? FUCK YOU ERIK HOUDINI, YOU WILL BE SHOT BEFORE ANY BOURGEOIS IS SHOT, YOU ARE SCUM
>>2289169he knew what he was doing
he was not a toddler who was just mindlessly playing with a gun
>>2289103What I think what's interesting is people quickly jump to he killed two people as if that's a fact. But in reality, he didn't kill two people. He drove the getaway car for the person who killed two people, and he may have had a hand in supplying the weapons for the home invasion. Two white women were also involved in this incident, and they both got 20 and 25 years. Tay-K got 55. 55 years is literally double the length of time that they got, the white women who were also involved. So you have people who are attacking me, and they're saying, well, you want to free murderous thugs and goons. He didn't murder anyone. He drove the getaway car. We've established this.
What might drive a 16-year-old who lives in America, who's a young black kid whose father was in prison and whose mother was a gang member, to drive a getaway car for an armed home invasion? I'm not defending the armed home invasion, but a lot of you people will quote Malcolm X. He didn't get 55 years in the prison for doing home invasions. He got out and was able to reform his life and become, well, Malcolm X. Tay K gets 55. His lyrics were used in the court as evidence of him committing a crime. Imagine if they did that for every piece of music. Do you ever listen to Cannibal Corpse? I mean, it doesn't take much to take that to its logical extreme and see why that's a bad play, but this sort of thing is really only ever used to charge black criminals. They used it against a young thug. They played his songs in the courtroom. But a lot of it's like wrestling. A lot of it's fake. The line between what's real and what's not real in this music is intentionally blurred. Future had a whole court case about it. It was brought up in his divorce proceedings. The character of Future is different from the actual individual, and that's a whole other argument, but the point is you've got people saying, he deserves 55 years. He's a murderous thug. Bury him under the prison. I can't believe you're advocating for this. Well, then also being like, I'm a communist. It logically isn't a logical position to take as a Marxist, as a communist, as an anarchist, as whatever sort of flavor of ice cream you're licking today.
Furthermore, it's not a logical position to take.Even if he was tried, found guilty of the two murders, why is it that we have decided that community deletion, social deletion, and being made into what is effectively a slave for the rest of your life is the most effective form of, quote unquote, justice? Could it be that there is a material economic reason why that our society has advanced that as the main form of justice? Because the system needs an underclass of prisoners to extract their labor from. Fundamentally, there's nothing I'm saying that isn't backed by theory. And I think some of you guys are telling on yourselves real hard.
>>2289181after that shooting he was on the run and killed ANOTHER man while robbing him
So yeah….
>>2289197what's the 'black man', 'palestinian' bullshit, he killed 2 men and you want him freed?
The way you say 'if it was a Palestinian man' its as if all Palestinian men routinely murder 2 people
>>2289190but the burger prison system doesn't actually fix people. it just makes them worse. US prisons are run by white supremacist gangs, and they press gang non gang members into peckerwoods and aryan brotherhood. meanwhile for anyone not white it's basically a slave plantation and torture/rape dungeon. so even if you eliminate sentencing disparities the US prison system is fundamentally non rehabilitative
>but muh based gulags>but muh communist country prisonscommunist countries punishing counter revolutionaries is not the same as capitalist countries turning minorities into slaves and drafting whites into supremacist gangs. I don't expect you to be won over by the idea of rehabilitative prisons that are done in the Scandinavian countries, but come on now. Surely you can see the difference. Prison abolition for the imperialist countries specifically.
>>2289103>guy gets arrested for self-snitching that he committed crimes against his own community of lumpenproles solely to enrich himself at their expense and then tried to make a career singing about it<we gotta go out and protest to free this man (protests don't decide that) or you're not a marxistPop a uygha, then I go out my way
Do the dash, then I go out the way
Rob a uygha shoes, rob a uygha lace
We tryna see a hunnid bands in our face
I cry every time I hear these inspiring, proletarian lyrics.
>>2289226so what when George Jackson wrote it? Doesn't mean shit.
Why am I supposed to take George Jackson as a great thought leader anyways?
>>2289103>It's not cool. It's cornball. If we want to tap into the culture and tap into the fucking controversy and tap into the spectacle, you've got to fucking take risky positions … I know that I'm taking the most based position. And that's all I ever do. I just stay based.You sound like the character in Peep Show who wants to open a pub called Free the Paedos. This is how I picture you in my head. You are this guy.
https://youtu.be/LNWDdcVA79c
>I don't necessarily believe that 55 years in prison is restorative justice that makes the thing that he did right. Well I agree that American-style punitive justice only makes things worse but still.
>>2289226>the courts are unfair to the…He self-snitched you idiot. This is also in the context of rappers getting slaps on the wrist with presidential pardons or plea deals like 69 getting away with RICO charges and child pornography. They should be getting the death penalty because in Texas there are people on death row for committing murders during robberies.
https://youtu.be/tJTF0n2aBi4?si=biGoFzdb0iVfGdrtAnd then that shit with "what if he was Palestinian…" What? Are you making that connection because they're both brown (on average)? Is this some implication that murder and theft is part of their identity? I can't think of a Palestinian rapper that murders their neighbors for their shoes and then jokes about it on twitter. All the Palestinian hip-hop I've seen doesn't promote crimes against their own people for their own greed and if there is, it doesn't get defended by white, suburban kids online because they liked his shitty song.
https://youtu.be/izs-nb521x0?si=n1AQAkBz2W076H6q
>but the prison system is fucked up and not fairYeah, but that doesn't mean murderers should just run around, free. Idealist morons. He had more opportunities than 90% of non-famous black men convicted for non-violent crimes and he still burnt all his chances to promote his brand.
>>2289280>>2289280>And then that shit with "what if he was Palestinian…" What? Are you making that connection because they're both brown (on average)? Is this some implication that murder and theft is part of their identity? I can't think of a Palestinian rapper that murders their neighbors for their shoes and then jokes about it on twitter. All the Palestinian hip-hop I've seen doesn't promote crimes against their own people for their own greed and if there is, it doesn't get defended by white, suburban kids online because they liked his shitty song.Black people in america are part of a neocolony in a very similar way to Palestinian people. You wouldn't expect a fair trial for a Palestinian in an Israeli court but for some reason, you expect an American court to provide a fair trail for a black youth.
You are very clearly not arguing in good faith.
>>2289039>not what was said. just said the founding fondlers wanted more slaves and fewer taxes.The direct implication of saying that the Founding Fathers started the American Revolution because they wanted more slaves is that the American Revolution was started to preserve and/or expand slavery, or at the very least that slavery was a major issue over which the American Revolution was fought. This statement doesn't exist in a bubble either: there's plenty of crypto-glowoids poisoning the well with this exact bullshit.
>it got you butthurt and you must defend their honor because burger patriotism and mythology is important.No it isn't. My position has always been that American history is sordid enough without needing to pepper it with bullshit.
>we'll scare away "the people" (which ones?)Any people who care about the truth and are wary of people they perceive as bending or disregarding the truth to sell a narrative. Which isn't something that the left has to do, because history is already on our side. You don't need to lie to add slightly more emphasis on a point you're already right about.
>>2289287'black people in America is comparable to palestinians'
you are a fucking moron Hitlerini
>>2289347It's too early and the serious people haven't announced anything, and when they get asked they say things like "I'm focused on delivering results for the people of my state." So there are few people who get listed on Wikipedia as expressing "interest in running" but Stephen Smith gets on there because he's a narcissist showbiz guy who says all his friends want him to be president. Whatever.
I think Whitmer should run but that's a purely vibes thing because she wears crazy-colored camo, leather, and jackets with big brassy buttons. I don't care.
>>2289373Lusting over Whitmer? In my USApol?
/hag/ is leaking
On the Campaign Trail, Elon Musk Juggled Drugs and Family Drama
Mr. Musk’s drug consumption went well beyond occasional use. He told people he was taking so much ketamine, a powerful anesthetic, that it was affecting his bladder, a known effect of chronic use. He took Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms. And he traveled with a daily medication box that held about 20 pills, including ones with the markings of the stimulant Adderall, according to a photo of the box and people who have seen it.
As a large government contractor, Mr. Musk’s aerospace firm, SpaceX, must maintain a drug-free work force and administers random drug tests to its employees. But Mr. Musk has received advance warning of the tests, according to people close to the process. SpaceX did not respond to questions about those warnings.
But last year, as he jumped into the political arena, some people who knew him worried about his frequent drug use, mood swings and fixation on having more children. This account of his behavior is based on private messages obtained by The Times as well as interviews with more than a dozen people who have known or worked with him.
This year, some of his longtime friends have renounced him, pointing to some of his public conduct. “Elon has pushed the boundaries of his bad behavior more and more,” said Philip Low, a neuroscientist and onetime friend of Mr. Musk’s who criticized him for his Nazi-like gesture at a rally.
Another mother, the right-leaning writer Ashley St. Clair, revealed in February that she had a secret relationship with Mr. Musk and had given birth to his 14th known child. Mr. Musk offered her a large settlement to keep his paternity concealed, but she refused. He sought a gag order in New York to force Ms. St. Clair to stop speaking publicly.
A Ketamine Habit
Mr. Musk has described some of his mental health issues in interviews and on social media, saying in one post that he has felt “great highs, terrible lows and unrelenting stress.” He has denounced traditional therapy and antidepressants.
He plays video games for hours on end. He struggles with binge eating, according to people familiar with his habits, and takes weight-loss medication. And he posts day and night on his social media platform, X.
In an interview in March 2024, the journalist Don Lemon pressed him on his drug use. Mr. Musk said he took only “a small amount” of ketamine, about once every two weeks, as a prescribed treatment for negative moods.
He had actually developed a far more serious habit, The Times found. Mr. Musk had been using ketamine often, sometimes daily, and mixing it with other drugs, according to people familiar with his consumption. The line between medical use and recreation was blurry, troubling some people close to him.
He also took Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms at private gatherings across the United States and in at least one other country, according to those who attended the events.
The Food and Drug Administration has formally approved the use of ketamine only as an anesthetic in medical procedures. Doctors with a special license may prescribe it for psychiatric disorders like depression. But the agency has warned about its risks, which came into sharp relief after the death of the actor Matthew Perry. The drug has psychedelic properties and can cause dissociation from reality. Chronic use can lead to addiction and problems with bladder pain and control.
“There are at least half a dozen initiatives of significance to take me down,” he wrote in a text message to someone close to him last May. “The Biden administration views me as the #2 threat after Trump.”
“I can’t be president, but I can help Trump defeat Biden and I will,” he added. He publicly endorsed Mr. Trump in July.
Around that time, Mr. Musk told people that his ketamine use was causing bladder issues.
On Oct. 5, he appeared with Mr. Trump at a rally for the first time, bouncing up and down around the candidate. That evening, Mr. Musk shared his excitement with a person close to him. “I’m feeling more optimistic after tonight,” he wrote in a text message. “Tomorrow we unleash the anomaly in the matrix.”
“This is not something on the chessboard, so they will be quite surprised,” Mr. Musk added about an hour later. “‘Lasers’ from space.”
After Mr. Trump won, Mr. Musk rented a cottage at Mar-a-Lago, the president-elect’s Florida resort, to assist with the transition. Mr. Musk attended personnel meetings and sat in on phone calls with foreign leaders. And he crafted plans to overhaul the federal government under the new Department of Government Efficiency.
I think people are failing to understand that there's never going to be a perfect victim of circumstance. There's never going to be one individual who is a perfect saint but got wrapped up in some sort of crime and now we can advocate for that person. The system is unjust, so we advocate for people who are disenfranchised by the system.
Another thing that I think is kind of missing to people—and I expected this—is that Donald Trump just pardoned NBA YoungBoy and Larry Hoover, among other people. In the past, he’s pardoned Kodak Black and others. To me, this represents a fairly low-stakes yet high-impact opportunity to remind people that, yes, the American prison system is slavery. It exists to enslave people. Capitalism needs out-groups. The right is running with these pardons but we have the theory to say more with even less. They could never speak about the real shit.
I read an article today where a Texas man killed a homeless person in cold blood and got five years in prison. Tay-K has 55 years, plus another 80 that he was just sentenced to. It’s very obvious to me that he’s being made an example of. So we take it, and we use the controversy, we use the spectacle, we use the recent events with Trump pardoning these people to propagandize—to agitate.
It’s always going to be controversial to advocate for people who are disenfranchised by capitalism. We should just lean into that. I don’t care if you think I’m some crazy person who’s platforming murderers and thugs and killers and whatever it is that these people are saying in this thread (that low-key does read like some Fox News comments, some of these). Let’s just lean in.
Yeah, it’s controversial to think that this 16-year-old—he did some fucked up shit. I’m not defending his innocence. I’m not defending his sainthood like he’s a perfect individual who didn’t do anything wrong. I am simply saying that, in America and in the American system, Black people are treated as a colonized group, and we know that he could not have gotten a fair trial under this justice system.
And he is a large name. He’s still a well-known rapper. People in the comments are talking about, “Why didn’t you pick somebody else?” Because you know who Tay-K is. You know who he was.
The spectacle can be used to insert our line into public consciousness precisely because it offends bourgeois sensibilities. The left should be just as tactical as the right. There’s a reason they push for these pardons—it benefits their popularity with key demographics. We need to be ruthlessly pragmatic. Use the visibility, the discourse, the contradictions of the system against it.
Don’t moralize. Don’t beg for public sympathy based on saintly conduct. People are telling me to read theory—like, come on. I’ve read the theory. Now let’s apply it.
>>2289432Familt SecretsBy 2022, Mr. Musk, who has married and divorced three times, had fathered six children in his first marriage (including one who died in infancy), as well as two with Ms. Boucher. She told people she believed they were in a monogamous relationship and building a family together.
But while a surrogate was pregnant with their third child, Ms. Boucher was furious to discover that Mr. Musk had recently fathered twins with Shivon Zilis, an executive at his brain implant company, Neuralink, according to people familiar with the situation.
Privately, he was spending time with Simone and Malcolm Collins, prominent figures in the emerging pronatalist movement, and urging his wealthy friends to have as many children as possible. He believed the world needed more intelligent people, according to people aware of the conversations.
Ms. Boucher reconciled with Mr. Musk, only to get another unpleasant surprise. In August 2023, she learned that Ms. Zilis was expecting a third child with Mr. Musk via surrogacy and was pregnant with their fourth.
Ms. Boucher and Mr. Musk began a contentious custody battle, during which Mr. Musk kept X for months. They eventually signed the joint custody agreement that specified keeping their children out of the spotlight.
By mid-2023, unknown to either Ms. Boucher or Ms. Zilis, Mr. Musk had started a romantic relationship with Ms. St. Clair, the writer, who lives in New York City.
Ms. St. Clair said in an interview that at first, Mr. Musk told her he wasn’t dating anyone else. But when she was about six months pregnant, he acknowledged that he was romantically involved with Ms. Zilis, who went on to become a more visible fixture in Mr. Musk’s life.
Ms. St. Clair said that Mr. Musk told her he had fathered children around the world, including one with a Japanese pop star. He said he would be willing to give his sperm to anyone who wanted to have a child.
Ms. St. Clair said that when she was in a delivery room giving birth in September, Mr. Musk told her over disappearing Signal messages that he wanted to keep his paternity and their relationship quiet.
On election night, Ms. St. Clair and Mr. Musk both went to Mar-a-Lago to celebrate Mr. Trump’s victory. But she had to pretend that she hardly knew him, she said.
He offered her $15 million and $100,000 a month until their son turned 21, in exchange for her silence, according to documents reviewed by The Times and first reported by The Journal. But she did not want her son’s paternity to be hidden.
After she went public in February, ahead of a tabloid story, she sued Mr. Musk to acknowledge paternity and, later, to get emergency child support.
Mr. Musk sought a gag order, claiming that any publicity involving the child, or comments by Ms. St. Clair on her experience, would be a security risk for the boy.
No Sympathy for This BehaviorSome of Mr. Musk’s onetime friends have aired concerns about what they considered toxic public behavior.
In a January newsletter explaining why their friendship had ended, Sam Harris, a public intellectual, wrote that Mr. Musk had used his social media platform to defame people and promote lies.
“There is something seriously wrong with his moral compass, if not his perception of reality,” Dr. Harris wrote.
https://archive.is/VBEYT >>2288691Why is this banned
>>2288314But this meaningless liberalism not
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