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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
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Previous thread: >>2287164

Does there any evidence that Musk use hardcore drugs?

>>2289603
he has a well established ketamine addiction

>>2289605
That explain why he's so unhinged mentally.

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>>2289607
that's just how he be

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>>2289613
Trump was merely confused, he thought she was referring to Diddy Kong, who is, in fact, a good guy.

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Well if any LA comr8s want to defend against christofascists tomorrow, here's your chance

>>2289621
>protest permits
absolutely cucked
make pride a riot again

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Everyday, the more I learn about various "dissidents" residing in America, the more I wonder how anyone falls for these obvious gifts.

Like, maybe people in 1975 were naive and insulated enough to actually believe this bullshit, but how, in the Year of Our Lord 2025, deep into the internet age, are people still falling for this pandering and ass kissing and treating it like legitimate, good faith political theory?

>>2289643
The basic rule of thumb is that if any "dissident" from abroad is promoted or even allowed in the United States its because they're a deranged reactionary.

>>2289596
What happened to musk's eye? Did the other neonazis in the cabinet beat him up?

>>2289646
I get that, but what I can't get is how people continuously fall for these obvious lies and grifts.

I don't get how you can see such ostentatious flattery and not have your "con man" alarm go off.

>>2289607
many dissociative users are communists actually, Elon gives us a bad name

Why are global elections so often 50/50

I feel like giving boomers internet was a mistake. They’re not prepared to filter out fake AI news stories.

Ms Rachel reciting "Be So Ashamed" a poem calling out leaders silent on atrocities in Gaza.

>>2289655
no one should be allowed to use the internet for anything other than school and government stuff unless they know the basics of how TCP/IP works

>>2289655
If Congress wasn't dominated by dinosaurs we could have had regulation out of the gate that forced companies to label all AI-generated slop so deepfakes would be illegal. Unfortunately they did the exact opposite and gave the demons carte blanche and buckets of cash so now we're in hell world.

Just how popular is "socialism," just as a concept, in the USA? I've seen various individual polls about it, I think the average may be about like 30% but I could be wrong.
>>2289655
>I feel like giving boomers internet was a mistake.
As someone who regularly deals with boomers and their Internet problems I agree, these people literally understand nothing.

Does anybody else find it crazy how you can go to a building and then 20 years later go to it again and the basic structure of the building hasn't changed?

>>2289605
apparently he started using so much he started to lose control of his bladder

>>2289649
It's also the kind of shit I was taught in school as a child. The Founders(pbut) are basically treated as saints and the constitution the much needed gospel they brought to a sinful world. It wasn't just the best governmental system ever devised, ensuring libert and justice for all people, but it was an objective force for moral good in the world, without which all of humanity would descend into barbaric anarchic slavery.

If anything, Solzhenitzen is understating it, if only because there's not much you can say short of declaring George Washington an incarnation of Jesus Christ himself that Americans weren't indoctrinated to believe about their country, at least during the cold war.

>>2289655
i think a lot of people in the comments are indians

>>2289673
My girlfriend's fundamentalist family honestly believes that America is the New Israel (aside from the actual Israel, but that exists to be destroyed to hasten the End Times) and that America was foretold in Biblical prophecy. Hell her great grandfather was even a fringe radio preacher of Armstrongite tendencies, so not only do they believe the Founders were inspired by God they also appropriate Jewish imagery too because they take the idea of America being the New Israel rather literally. It cannot be overstated just how much of a doomsday cult the American Civic Religion has turned into

>>2289656
Dear Putin, If I Was Your Mother vibes

>>2289665
It's kind of a complicated question because the state of American political education is so poor. As a word, "Socialism" is a lot more popular with millennials and zoids, since the one was exposed to Nordic social welfare via the internet and subsequently the crises of 08 and ows, and zoids piggybacking off of that and the popularity of Bernie Sanders.

Gen Xers and older are less amenable to it because they got cold war anticom propaganda full blast, and "Socialism" is still a scary word where everything bad that ever happens is the fault of Socialism or communists.

For the average person though, as long as you don't mention the S or C word, most socialist or communist ideas will be treated as good or just common sense. I had a coworker basically say to me "all heretofore existing history is the history of class struggle" just recently.

So it's really a mixed bag. You could say that people like the taste, they just don't like the wrapper.

>>2289677
>It cannot be overstated just how much of a doomsday cult the American Civic Religion has turned into
Honestly, yeah. It's disturbing.

>>2289679
>Dear Putin, If I Was Your Mother vibes

Not even close to that. Ms Rachel is actually spending time with kids from Gaza who were badly wounded and raising money for them

how many times has trump said NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY to china

>>2289665
They agree with a lot of the concepts/policies if you don't label it "socialism".

>>2289690
Do Chinese tacos exist?

>>2289656
I would follow this woman into battle.

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>>2289687
That's good, her speech was shit though.

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MEN ARE IN DECLINE

>>2289708
This slop is designed for mummies on 10 different kinds of life support.
How does Fox plan to stay relevant once their audience is dead?

>>2289708
i'm not sure young women want families. educated young people, men or women, are more likely to make the calculation that given the current trend of things in the USA, it is not smart to have a family

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>>2289705
Here is a better speech for her (I may email it to her):
Dear bourgeois leaders, parasites of the world, God Does Not Exist and we mean to deny by
this declaration the personal God of theology, the God worshiped
in various ways and divers modes by believers the world over, that
God who from nothing created the universe, from chaos matter,
that God of absurd attributes who is an affront to human reason.
With each new discovery of chemistry, physics, biology, the
anthropological sciences, of the practical application of sound
principles, dogma collapses. It is a part of that old edifice of
religion which crumbles and falls in ruins. The continuous progress
of the natural sciences now extending from city to country,
disperses the darkness of the Middle Ages, and the multitudes
desert the churches where from generation to generation they
betook themselves to pray to God—that monstrous product of
human ignorance.
Let us examine the nature of God. We force ourselves,
therefore, to reason in a vacuum, the God of religions being their
own image of their mental vacuum, the proof of the complete
absence of any activity in reasoning.
How can the idea of a creator be reconciled with the existence
of dwarfed and atrophied organs, with anomalies and
monstrosities, with the existence of pain, perpetual and universal,
with the struggle and the inequalities among human beings?
Epicurus, the philosopher who lived in Rome in the time of the
decadence of the Republic, posed the following questions:
"Either God wishes to do away with evil in this world and
cannot succeed; or he can do away with it and does not wish to; or
he cannot and does not wish to; or finally, he wishes to and can. If
he wishes to but has not the power, he is not all-powerful. If he has
the power to do away with evil and does not wish to, he is not
infinitely good. If, as affirm the deists, he can and wants to, tell
me, then, why does evil exist on earth, and why does not God
make it impossible?"
That which affronts human reason most is the inconceivable
fact of the creative power of a God who from nothingness created
everything, from chaos the universe. . . .
One would have to be completely without knowledge of
physiology, botany, and psychology to claim today the existence of
a "soul" independent of the body; on the contrary, one which does
not form one of the two distinct aspects of the unique human
nature.
Dogma is absurd because it presupposes immobility and the
absolute. Nothing in the world is absolute, everything is relative.
Nothing is entirely changeless, but there is a continual
transformation, a perpetual movement of forces.
Dogma presents to human reason an obstacle to progress
because it imposes limitations to the painful but salutary impulses
towards the search for truth, because it checks the free expansion
of all intellectual energy.
Science is now in the process of destroying religious dogma.
The dogma of the divine creation is recognized as absurd.
"Religion is the opium of the people."—Karl Marx.
It being demonstrated that religious dogma presents itself to the
human spirit and to rational criticism as "the absolute consecration
of the absurd," let us see why moral religion is "immoral."
The evangelists are ridiculous when, instead of studying the
Bible as a document of a certain historic interest, they try to credit
it with real life and bring to the masses the principles of Christ
(who perhaps never existed) as the ethical principles of a morality
everlastingly young, permanent, modern, in complete accord with
the present age. The Bible and morals called Christian are two
cadavers which the evangelists attempt to galvanize into life with,
it must be agreed, small enough success.
It is, therefore, clear that religious morality is one of
resignation and sacrifice, a morality which may be dear to the
weak, to the degenerate, to slaves, but which results in the
diminution of reason and human personality. It bends man toward
the earth, making him a slave to divinity. It favors the conservation
of those primitive sentiments which belong to that period of animal
life long left behind, and transforms the "thinking being" into a
"passive sheep" who lives in the fear of the universal judgment.
Religious morality shows the original stigmata of
authoritarianism precisely because it pretends to be the revelation
of divine authority. In order to translate this authoritarianism into
action and impose it upon humanity, the priestly caste of revealers
has sprung up and with it the most atrocious intolerance.
Certain it is that religion is a psychic disease of the brain, a
contraction, a tightening up of the individual who, if he is
profoundly religious, appears to us as abnormal.
The history of many saints, beatified by the church, is
repugnant. It shows nothing more than a profound aberration of the
human spirit in search of ultra-terrestrial chimeras; it is a delirium
which can attain the state of spasms of passion and which ends in
madness.
Therefore, many of those who today hover over the altars of
the Catholic Church are pathological cases, hysterics, déomanes
and demonomaniacs.
Even today in the more remote parts of Italy and Spain we can
witness similar phenomena, Saint January for the people of Naples,
and the Madonna of Lourdes for French bigotry. Are they not
analogous aberrations?
If we read the history of religions, we find that it deals with the
pathology of the human brain. If today the Middle Ages are retiring
into the thick shadows of convents, it is due to triumphant
skepticism; and if the epidemic disease of religion no longer
appears with the terrible intensity of former times, it is due to the
diminution of the political power of the Church which formerly
placed on the heads of people its cap of lead.
Religion presents itself to our eyes in another characteristic: the
atrophy of reason. The faculty by which man is differentiated from
the lower animals is his reasoning power. But the devout believer
renounces reason, refuses to explain the things which surround
him. the innumerable natural phenomena, because his religious
faith is enough for him. The brain loses the habit of thinking; and
this religious sottishness hurls mankind back into animalism.
In concluding we say that "religious man" is an abnormality
and that "religion" is the certain cause of epidemic diseases of the
mind which require the care of alienists.
Religion has shown itself in the open as the institution whose
aim is political power by which to externalize the exploitation and
the ignorance of the people.
The zionist state driven entirely by theological prophecies and its christian supporters in the western hemisphere are as retarded as the islamist jihadists they criticize, a mentally ill person must not be allowed to govern. Give up your positions now or be forcefully removed and liquidated. The carnage you have brought through your religious delusions will also not be forgiven and all responsible behind it will be summarily executed or put to use in human trials until expiry.

>>2289712
they'll pivot to nu media that is already indoctrinating kids from birth with 24/7 short form fascist slop propaganda

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>>2289656
hmm I wonder what's more appealing, this righoid rhetoric, or the hustler's manual

>>2289714
Unironically this by the way GDNE is a superb text.

>>2289714
I found her email address its public - [email protected]
I'm going to submit this to her so she won't embarrass herself anymore.

>>2289708
Look at South Korea. The ungodly situation in that country isn't down to feminisation it's down to a dystopian gridlock corporatocracy where the only thing working class men have to be smug about is that women have less rights than them.

>>2289652
Because democrats rig elections

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>>2289708
>Gen Z rebrands laziness as 'stay-at-home sonse'–just like they did with 'quiet quitting.' But let's be honest: the real crisis is the feminization of men. Young women want families. Too many young men want DoorDash and mama's basement.

>>2289708
Wtf I just googled Laura. She adopted 3 immigrant kids but goes on TV to say immigrants are the devil

be the chinese red scare fox news boomers are afraid of

>>2289729
>"adopted"
You mean bought trafficking victims.
She's a nazi

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>>2289736
it costs 400,000 dollars to fire dis weapon
for 12 seconds

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>>2289708
>door dash and mama's basement
Ah the 'ol infrared special.


>>2289745
Is there a better party or are you anti-Communist

>>2289680
>>2289696
Sorry, I was talking about the popularity of the term "socialism" itself, though you still both pretty much answered my question. Thank you.
Like I don't think it's wise to try to hide or disguise your opinions when discussing politics, but at the same time I think it's best to try to display them in a way in which most people will be receptive.

>>2289749
>>2289745
Grifter on Grifter action

>>2289750
I agree. I'm upfront with people as much as possible, but at the same time you've got to be careful to avoid jumping the gun. Especially when you're talking with coworkers.

>>2289679
"dear putin if I was your mother" was a liberal american woman calling out the leader of a foreign country for "starting" a war that NATO started. Ms. Basedchel is calling out the imperialist leaders of her own country for funding the palestinian genocide. not even close sam hyde posting crackkka

>>2289745
I'm really conflicted because everything I see from Haz is garbage, but the local acp chapter is the only org in my state that's doing anything worthwhile.

>>2289754
Religion is reactionary, she is moralizing over religion, she must read GDNE >>2289714

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>>2289749
I thought the acp supports anti-communists small business owners.

>>2289745
>the calvin piss decal

how can you not like this guy

>>2289749
Unironically psl

>>2289652
They’re fake

>>2289752
>Especially when you're talking with coworkers.
I wish I could talk politics with coworkers, unfortunately our workplace is extremely atomized and I'm just a moron.

>>2289755
don't do it, it's a cult, vid related
>>2289757
landleeches too


>>2289755
And I thought I lived in a rough area.


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>>2289603
There's an article in the New York Times that he has pickle ricked himself with a heavy diet of ketamine (so his bladder is fucked) and adderall while also doing ecstasy and shrooms, and he takes ambien to go to sleep. He also binges on food and tries to balance that with weight-loss drugs.

He also shoved Bessent (the treasury secretary) so now he's fired. He also might've cucked Stephen Miller's wife (which could be how he ended up with the black eye).

>>2289773
>He also might've cucked Stephen Miller's wife
Are you implying Elon Musk fucked Stephen Miller?

>>2289776
Wait. No. SHIT. Hold on. Correction: He may have cucked Stephen Miller. But some are saying there may have been a polycule.

Elon Musk has no working cock so he couldn't have cucked anyone, and given his rightoid stances, is probably more likely to be the cuck, if anything.

>>2289779
Maybe his pussy eating game is just that good

>>2289773
How do you fuck up doing ecstasy and shrooms this badly? JFC. Leave it to the rich to be the ones completely unable to learn anything from psychedelics that'd actually make them a better person.

>>2289773
How can you do drugs like ket, shrooms and ecstasy and still have such little empathy.

>>2289761
Wrong. PSL is zionist

>>2289708
that bitch has really gotten old and bogged to hell

So was Elon told to fuck off or did he leave on his own?

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>>2289791
Spoiler alert: They actually lied about him fucking off for good.
https://www.wired.com/story/doge-elon-musk-really-not-leaving/

>>2289795
As expected. They just wanted less heat and flak.

>>2289596
Dark, gothic MAGA…

>>2289787
I dont see any statements from them that says that

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>>2289804
I mean there was this but it could just be that they don't support adventurism.

>In a way, he's no different than a man walking to work, seeing building on fire, and without hesitation–without thought–running inside, sacrificing himself to save the children burning alive. The only difference? The fire was started by America and Israel, and the children are being killed intentionally.

PSL beyond mid

>>2289808
"why aren't you in the PSL"

do you really think I want these monkey ass motherfuckers to have control over my social media and shit? only thing elias did wrong was getting caught, could have smoked some pigs on the way out

>>2289784
drugs don't make you a better person

>>2289810
shrooms did make me a better person

>>2289806
>PSL does not release membership numbers.[9][10] In 2022, PSL claimed an "organized presence in over 100 cities".[11] In 2024, PSL was "in over 50 cities across the United States".[12]
I think they have like millions of members, they claim to be ML so they should've overthrown the US by now, but they're liberal fraudsters who like to just do activism shouting and twerking and stealing membership fees for their "central committee" exotic orgies in Dubai. PSL does not release membership numbers but I have no doubt that if every member of the PSL was handed a rifle they could've started a civil war in the US. But their liberal fat intersectional diversity hire lard ass members are so snowflake they don't want to die. And if I'm wrong, if they only have a thousand members like AI tells me, they should still die because I don't like their style.
>>2289808
Grifter merchant.

>>2289813
Thats what the indonesian communist party did in 1927 an uprising with no base no plan no agitation preceding just a mad dash and they lost, how will a psl mad dash be any different and even then they are still beter than the acp but not having a guy like be the face

>>2289815
>PSL
>Mad dash

PSL has no actual revolutionary plans or base beyond door knocking the voter rolls the democratic party.

>>2289816
Oh and the guy who they sent to talk to me about talking about them in public, that's something aint it

>Kristi Noem said an immigrant threatened to kill Trump. The story quickly fell apart

Noem announced an arrest of a 54-year-old man who was living in the U.S. illegally, saying he had written a letter threatening to kill Trump and would then return to Mexico. The story received a flood of media attention and was highlighted by the White House and Trump’s allies.

But investigators actually believe the man may have been framed so that he would get arrested and be deported from the U.S. before he got a chance to testify in a trial as a victim of assault, a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press. The person could not publicly discuss details of the investigation and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.

Law enforcement officials believe the man, Ramon Morales Reyes, never wrote a letter that Noem and her department shared with a message written in light blue ink expressing anger over Trump’s deportations and threatening to shoot him in the head with a rifle at a rally. Noem also shared the letter on X along with a photo of Morales Reyes, and the White House also shared it on its social media accounts. The letter was mailed to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement office along with the FBI and other agencies, the person said.

As part of the investigation, officials had contacted Morales Reyes and asked for a handwriting sample and concluded his handwriting and the threatening letter didn’t match and that the threat was not credible, the person said. It’s not clear why Homeland Security officials still decided to send a release making that claim.
In an emailed statement asking for information about the letter and the new information about Morales Reyes, the Department of Homeland Security said “the investigation into the threat is ongoing. Over the course of the investigation, this individual was determined to be in the country illegally and that he had a criminal record. He will remain in custody.”


His attorneys said he was not facing current charges and they did not have any information about convictions in his record.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s records show Morales Reyes is being held at a county jail in Juneau, Wisconsin, northwest of Milwaukee. The Milwaukee-based immigrant rights group Voces de la Frontera, which is advocating for his release, said he was arrested May 21. Attorney Cain Oulahan, who was hired to fight against his deportation, said he has a hearing in a Chicago immigration court next week and is hoping he is released on bond.

Morales Reyes had been a victim in a case of another man who is awaiting trial on assault charges in Wisconsin, the person familiar with the matter said. The trial is scheduled for July.

Morales Reyes works as a dishwasher in Milwaukee, where he lives with his wife and three children. He had recently applied for a U visa, which is carved out for people in the country illegally who become victims of serious crimes, said attorney Kime Abduli, who filed that application.

The Milwaukee Police Department said it is investigating an identity theft and victim intimidation incident related to this matter and the county district attorney’s office said the investigation was ongoing. Milwaukee police said no one has been criminally charged at this time.

Abduli, Morales Reyes’ attorney, says he could not have written the letter, saying he did not receive formal education and can’t write in Spanish and doesn’t know how to speak English. She said it was not clear whether he was arrested because of the letters.

“There is really no way that it could be even remotely true,” Abduli said. “We’re asking for a clarification and a correction from DHS to clear Ramon’s name of anything having to do with this.”

https://apnews.com/article/ice-letter-threatening-trump-21447adfd14eb1a043f95344f9ccb3d5

>>2289820
UK mfs have acid attacks and I support bringing that shit to the US against these mf vapid looking fascisto-bimbos

>>2289819
>can tĥe psl over throw the capitalist system?
>can the psl create a beautiful dictatorship of proletiariat?
<can you?

I welcome anyone who has a plan to do better and puts it into action, i hope someone does but in terms of size and platform they seem to be the best we got. We need exponentially better

>>2289826
I dont think it benefits anyone to speak ill of any other leftist/group openly but this is true, we do need better, we need more parties, more organs in our beast makes us harder to kill, we need better logistical structures that are open yet closed

>>2289811
Same, but I think it’s possible to sublimate your empathy in weird ways.

>>2289831
nah that's boring, what we need is to endlessly criticize and moan about every existing organization because only we can do Marxism properly, and part of doing Marxism properly is never actually doing anything because that would be cringe anarkkkiddie activist liberalism or some shit like that

>>2289826
if you can't get people to even write for your magazine the chances of you being able to lead a party are zero to none, so no I don't really have anything that's actionable at the moment that beats out the PSL.

I agree with >>2289831

Lol

>>2289880
>judeo-christian
stonetoss.jpg

>>2289880
Is executing children part of those values? I guess king herod had judeo values

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This place makes me fucking sick.

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How have these ICE blackshirts not been shot by some conceal carrying dude yet?

>>2289656
Literally a second holocaust.

I can’t be the only one who thinks the TACO posting “Trump is too much of a pussy to do fascism for real!!” Is extremely not a good political strategy.

Qtard board has mixed opinions on palantir surveiling us. Some say it is part of the plan to save Americans and others are questioning if it is a good thing at all

A lot of elite thinking going on in this place

https://patriots.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/19BGTYb69J/trump-taps-palantir-to-compile-d/c

>>2289902
There is a particular kind of political schizophrenia in americans. I wonder if it has something to do with christianity somehow.

>>2289900
I agree, but the left has not had a good political strategy in a while.

>>2289902
Has anyone outright asked these clowns what exactly would need to happen for them to turn on Trump?

>>2289915
It likely does. Reminds me of that shit Marx said about the young Hegelians only being able to understand the world by first relating everything about it to religion instead of seeing things straight up, or something like that lol.

>>2289941
trump is their god, they will never turn on him. If trump tomorrow started a harem these people would start wearing drag

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>>2289795
woah woah woah… you mean I wasn't fighting elonmort by posting memes on bluesky that nobody reads? no fucking way.

>>2289784
Probably because the article is made up dog shit by retarded liberals only looking to validate the feelings of other retarded liberals so they keep buying subscriptions?

Theory:
erikhousini is badempanada

Reason:
I'm so alienated and online that I lose the ability at time to picture just how vast the world

Funny how this is more and more true with each passing day

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>Trump raises tariffs on steel and aluminium to 50 percent.

>>2290119
well shit how can i make support equipment and guns now? fucking fascist

>>2289896
Half of the migrants deported in my county were for DUI. Do you have materialist arguement fro why this is bad or are you alogical moralist

>>2289895
Its better to deport them so they dont become like one of the half million migrant children who became homeless and were never seen again from biden open border policy

>>2289896
It will happen eventually but it’s going to take them deporting more actual citizens first.

>>2290149
"Actual citizens" can GTFO. The only thing worse than illegal migrant is migrant who paid to become ameriKKKan citizen

shut up fascist

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>>2289880
>Judeo-Christian values at the heart of our Founders' vision


14 June 1931 RED RUSSIA OF TODAY RULED BY STALINISM NOT BY COMMUNISM

By WALTER DURANTY.
Special Cable to THE NEW YORK TIMES

In 1932, Duranty received a Pulitzer Prize for a series of reports about the Soviet Union, eleven of which were published in June 1931. He was later criticized for his subsequent denial of the widespread famine (1930–1933) in the USSR,[1] most particularly the Holodomor.


PARIS, June 13.—Russia today cannot be judged by Western standards or Interpreted in Western terms. Western Marxists and Socialists go nearly as far wrong about it as the “bourgeois“ critics because they fail to understand that the dominant principle of the Soviet Union, though called Marxism or Communism, is now a very different thing from the theoretical conception advanced by Karl Marx.

In thirteen years Russia has transformed Marxism—which was only a theory anyway—to suit its racial needs and characteristics, which are strange and peculiar, and fundamentally more Asiatic than European.

The dominant principle in Russia today is not Marxism or even Leninism although the latter is its official title, but Stalinism—to use a word which Joseph Stalin deprecates and rejects. I mean that, just as Leninism meant Marxian theory plus practical application, plus Russia, so Stalinism denotes a further development from Leninism and bears witness to the prodigious influence of the Russian character and folkways upon what seemed the rigid theory of Marx.

Operating Principle Is Russian.

Stalinism is a tree that has grown from - the alien seed of Marxism planted in Russian soil, and whether Western Socialists like it or not it is a Russian tree.

Old Russia was an amorphous mass, held together by a mystic, half Asian idea of an imperial régime wherein the emperor was exalted to the position of God’s vice regent, with limitless power over the bodies, souls, property and even thoughts of his subjects. That, at least, was the theory, and it was only when the Czars themselves began to question it and “act human” that a spirit of doubt and eventual rebellion became manifest.

The Czarist régime was poisoned by the European veneer that was spread over Russia—a veneer that was foreign and at bottom unwelcome to the mass of the Russian people—and one of the things the Bolshevist revolution did was to sweep away this alien crust and give the essential Russianinity underneath an opportunity to breathe and grow. Which explains why the Bolsheviki, who at first were a mere handful among Russia’s millions, were able successfully to impose their dominant principle - namely Marxism—which in superficial appearance was far more alien than the Germanized or Westernized system it overthrew.

The truth is that the ideas outlined hi the Communist Manifesto of Marx (which incidentally expounds his whole philosophy far more simply, 1ucidly and concretely than the ponderous “Das Kapital” and should be learned by heart by any one who wishes to understand the Soviet Union) suited the Russian masses much better than the Western theory of individualism and private enterprise imported by Peter the Great and his successors, who finally perished in the conflict it involved with the native character of Russia.

Stalin Abolished NEP.

Lenin took and shaped Marxism to fit the Russian foot, and although circumstances compelled him to abandon it temporarily for the New Economic Policy, he always maintained that this political manoeuvre was not a basic change of policy. Sure enough, Stalin, his successor and devout disciple, first emasculated the NEP and then set about abolishing it. Today the NEP is a sorry stave in the outer courts of the Soviet palace.

That is what Stalin did and is doing to our boasted Western individualism and spirit of personal initiative—which was what the NEP meant—not because Stalin is so powerful or cruel and full of hate for the capitalist system as such, but because he has a flair for political management unrivalled since Charles Murphy died.

Stalin is giving the Russian people—the Russian masses, not Westernized landlords, industrialists bankers and intellectuals, but Russia’s 150,000,000 peasants and workers— what they really want namely, joint effort, communal effort. And communal life is as acceptable to them as it is repugnant to a Westerner. flits is one of the reasons why - Russian Bolshevism will never succeed in the United States, Great Britain, France or other parts west of the Rhine.

Stalinism, too, has done what Lenin only attempted. It has re-established the semi-divine, supreme autocracy of the imperial idea and has placed itself on the Kremlin throne as a ruler whose lightest word is all In all and whose frown spells death. Try that on free-born Americans or the British with their tough loyalty to old things, or on France’s consciousness of self. But it suits the Russians and is as familiar, natural and right to the Russian mind as it is abominable and wrong to Western nations.

Key to Stalin’s Power

This Stalin knows and that knowledge is his key to power. Stalin does not think of him as a dictator or an autocrat, but as the guardian of the sacred flame, or ‘party line’ as the Bolsheviki term it, which for want of a better name must be labeled Stalinism.

Its authority is as absolute as any emperors—it is an inflexible rule of thought, ethics, conduct and purpose that none may transgress. And its practical expression finds form in what is known as the five-year plan. The Soviet five-year plan is a practical expression of the dominant principle—which for convenience the writer will call Stalinism, although Stalin still terms it Leninism—which rules Russia today with absolute authority.

In a sense it is far more than a plan—and in another sense it is not a plan at all. It is a slogan for a national policy and purpose rather than the glorified budgetary program which it appears at first at first sight to be. Most persons outside Russia seem to think that if the five-year plan “fails’ it will be the end of Bolshevism and that if it “succeeds” it will mean the end of capitalism elsewhere. Nothing could be more absurd or more wrong.

The five-year plan is nothing more or less than applied Stalinism, and its mass of bewildering figures is only the thermometer to measure the degree of heat engendered by the application of the plan, but is not other wise intrinsically important The figures have been changed so often and so considerably as to cease to have real value save as an indication of the “tempo,” or rate, at which Stalinism is gaining ground.

Five-Year Plan Provides Goal.

To the rest of the world it is only a menace in the sense that Bolshevism itself is a menace- which may or may not be true. To Russia it is only a hope or promise in terms or what Bolshevism itself offers. But to the Russian people the five-year plan is infinitely more besides—it is a goal to aim at, and its inception cannot be regarded as a stroke of genius by any one familiar with the Russian nature.

Russians ignorant or wise, have a positive passion for plans. They almost worship a plan, and the first thing any one, two or more Russians ever do about anything is make a plan for it. That, after making his plan, the Russian feels satisfied and seems to lose sight of the fact that a plan must next be carried out is of the great obstacles Stalin and his associates are now facing.

So, to conceive a whole national policy and everything in the national life as one gigantic plan was the political tour do force that put Stalin In the highest rank. Every one who has employed Russians or worked with Russians or knows Russians finds that if he wants them to jump on a chair, he must tell them to jump on a table, and aiming at the table they will reach the chair. The important thing s that they have something to jump at and make an effort—whether they actually get there all at once or not does not really matter in a country of such vast natural resources and with such a tough and enduring population

What matters is that they keep on trying, and that is what Stalinism and its five-year plan is set to make them do. In others words, the five-year plan is something for the Russians -to measure at, not for the rest of the world to measure Russians by. This sounds confusing, but it is true, and if you cannot understand it you cannot understand Russia.

Chief Purpose Is Direction.

The whole purpose of the plan is to get the Russians going—that is, to make a nation at eager, conscious workers out of a nation that was a lump of sodden, driven slaves. Outsiders “viewing with alarm’ or hooting with disdain as they take and into making an effort and making all together in tune to the Kremlin’s music. That is why the Soviet press utters shouts of Joy about the five year plan for oil production being accomplished in two and a half years and does not care a rap when some meticulous foreigners comment about the fact that nothing like the five- year amount of oil has actually been produced.

What the Soviet press really means is that in two and a half years the daily production rate—or tempo-has reached the point set for the end of the fifth year of the plan—in short, that oil has jumped on the table way ahead or time. That the said rate may only be maintained with the utmost difficulty has small importance to Russian logic, and rightly so, because a successful effort has been made and what a man has done once that man can do again.

Russia and Russians and Russian logic are different, but the tact that they are different does not necessarily mean they are wrong.

In succeeding dispatches the writer will try to show what this difference is and how it works. More immediately, how the five-year plan works in practice in this, which the Russians call, the “third and decisive year.’ And incidentally, by “decisive” they do not mean critical or deciding of success or failure, but success only.

not reading that

he's only been president for 4 months

>>2290155
Where did "the Founders were God-fearing Christians" cope even come from?

>>2290166
historical revisionism of a truly exceptional, american kind

>>2290166
Propaganda

>>2289806
>>2289804
PSL is zionist because they celebrate self-immolation like mossad twitter does, yet they also denounce shootings of zionists like mossad does. PSL has same line as Mossad.

I was going to join PSL but then i see how zionist and liberal they are and how they hang proles to dry. All proletarian must recognize the necessity of the liberal zionist PSL being deported.

>not supporting useless terror is zionist and liberal
you REALLY wouldn't have liked Lenin then

>>2290174
Show me where rsdlp published celebration of self-immolation. You stupid zionist liberal piece of shit

>>2290172
+1 charisma for PSL keeping the local glownonymous retard angry and far away from them.

>>2290180
you are a zionist. i smarter than you. you support the zionist agenda. burn yourself alive like zionist liberal PSL wants you to so i celebrate it like they will

me smart you dumb

>>2289603
Just look at him

>>2290199
I’m going to support them really hard to make you spiral into more schizo delusions.

>>2290189
>>2290180
imagine supporting a party for being liberal, zionist, and shit party that alienate proletarian. witness the 𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖌𝖆𝖗𝖉 genius of the zionist liberal bourgeois ameriKKKa poster

>>2290202
there are no schizo delusions here, aside from yours, liberal. I have the screen shots of PSL being zionist and mirroring Mossad line

>>2290180
You made him reply to you thrice.

>>2290208
im not falling for his zionist bait. I am destroying it thoroughly. the zionist has no leg to stand on aside from insulting because zionist are dumb

bros mumbling

>>2290208
They love me and want to have my babies

>>2290217
you are proudest zionist here

>>2290220
I’m proud to have you on this dick.

i hope more political parties keep the glowboy out of their orgs by denouncing the shooter, as i otherwise support him but fuck him more

>>2290229
my politics are correct. you never catch me being wrong. your empty insults take place of actual logic. i am more connected with reality than you because my politics are better than yours
>>2290232
>its good that our parties are useless because this satisfies my imaginary parasocial antagonistic relationship ive imagined against an imageboard user
you are a fat and detached loser

>>2290235
you are the one who posts about the most inane nonsense on this website, no one should even entertain a drop of what you say, you are vermin, you are utterly worthless, you are a detriment to communism worldwide and for that reason alone, no communist party should represent a singular bit of you

>>2290237
HOW ironic it is that YOU are the one who FAILS to present coherant thought or argument. Why reply with EVEN MORE inane and hollow insult? If im so worthless why do you sink to such depths as to respond with such thoughtless seething? You fail to explain why im incorrect on any question. stop responding because all you say is meaningless insult

>>2290240
you do not deserve responses, it is that simple, you are vermin

>>2290241
don't give him what he doesn't deserve

>>2290241
>no argument. more insult but shorter to save face because i call them out
then why do you keep responding to insult like an actual 2 year old? are you retarded or something? or is your own post logic so bad you cannot follow it?

>>2290242
well he is vermin, he doesn't deserve anything more than insults, and he will be repelled from as much of the site as possible, he is possibly the worst poster on the website for what he does

>>2290243
you are vermin, you do not deserve responses

>>2290244
>>2290245
>i am vermin because i called a zionist party zionist
you are hitlerite zionist. you are the retard. you are the liberal. insult me again and prove me right for thousandth time
>>2290242
I dont deserve to be subject to one retard's crusade against me for rejecting zionism

>>2290247
>zionist
>liberal
retard

>>2290252
liberal zionists who echo mossad and cheer degeneration of worker parties into arms of zionism are retards

>>2290255
Zionists are zionists. No need to bring liberalism into the matter, it's a completely separate thing.

lmfao kill yourself

Ban Glownonymous tbh

>>2290261
this 💯 so much

>>2290257
wrong. zionists are liberals. it is utterly necessary to recognize the connection to understand the crypto-zionist agenda because zionism and liberalism are interdependent. you are a zionist. you are a liberal. liberal earnestly believe you are not zionist but you are wrong. watch this bad empanada video and repent for you 🅽🅸🅶🅶🅰🆁🅳ly liberal zionism

>>2290277
To you, liberal just means "thing I don't like"
Because you are retarded.

>>2289708
>2 barren women with no kids telling young (white) men to stop having any inner life and start being good GDP slaves instead
Right Wingers are just radfems now. The left spent every decade since the USSR dissolved itself into catering to this degenerated brahmin class lmao.

>>2290277
>a whole bunch of claims with no justification
well that was a waste of bytes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

>>2289656
Liberal cringe but now good cause geopolitiks or something. I have constant internal logic.

>>2290257
>Zionists are zionists. No need to bring liberalism into the matter
Another glown gem

there's a new change to trumps upcoming trade policy that's freaking investors out

What's different? Investment into America from foreign investors is no longer tax free. it's now 5% in most cases.

That's not the worst of it. The market is expecting the same to apply to purchases of US TREASURY SECURITIES. Im reasonably certain trump will chicken out again but holy shit if it goes through that's going to cost a lot of foreigners a lot of money

>>2290287
Existence of zionist entity is interdependent with existence of liberalism. Zionism is liberalism. You are a zionist. You are a liberal.

>>2289723
South Korea is hyper feminist though

>>2290282
>barren women
>ha! these right-wingers aren't right-wing enough!
the problem isn't that they are being hypocritical but that at a personal level they understand that what they are saying is false, that having children is too expensive and would be detrimental to their lives and careers

>>2290298
>a religious supremacist messianic cult ideology is interdependent with the ideology that centers rule of law and personal liberty

>>2290291
I hope he does it. I want to see the speedrunning of total american economic meltdown

>>2290277
IIRC Empanada also refers to this version of "liberal" as the meaning it has in contrast with "conservative". As a label in political theater not necessarily about economics. It is a facade for the settler colonial project that picks the mannerisms and expressions of the "left wing" of economic liberalism to mollify and launder the same genocidal intent and supremacist views as their kahanist counterparts.

IDK why you are trying so hard to discredit BE by associating it with your retarded takes.

>>2290302
That supremacist cult ideology is in fact rooted in divine law and the law of scripture, so it makes sense for these zionazis to love law

>>2290307
Take your lame eceleb grifter worship to isg

These Zionist scholar people wrote a literal book about comments online insulting Israel. It essentially presents a tweet comment then gives an analysis as to why this is anti-semitic with hundreds upon on hundreds of examples broken down 1 by 1. Very few are actually anti-Semitic scrolling thru it

https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/94596

>>2289708
The thread about this on /r9k/ is hilarious

>>2290301
>having children is too expensive
Not really tbh. The poorest countries/demographics are the most fertile. Wealth has little to do with birth rates.

>>2290312
typical academic

>>2290315
exactly. in fact, countries like south korea which promote natality with money acrually have the lowest birth rates. the richer you are, the more childless, generally.

>>2290315
why are you here when you haven't even read marx
<A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls.
having a child is technically free as long as you have a willing couple, but it is actually expensive just like houses are expensive. living in a shack would be as cheap as unacceptable. the subsistence farmer didn't/doesn't have these circumstances and would very quickly become infertile if thrown into them, just like it would be impossible for the current world population to exist if everyone was a subsistence farmer (as history has time and time again proved)

to put it in numbers, at least in my third world shithole the fertility rate is way lower than the replacement rate; it costs ~400 usd to raise a child above the poverty line, this is, with appropriate nutrition, education and healthcare, but the minimum wage and median salary for a young person is ~290 usd. no government incentive will fix this because you would have to pay mothers at the very least 2 or 3 minimum wages, which is never going to happen

what ends up happening is that there are very few couples that decide to have children and then some that have them by accident. it is below replacement and yet more than 50% of children are growing up below the poverty line, often with a malnutrition that will forever impair their cognitive skills and brain development

>>2290317
>>2290317
What is the actual reason then?

>>2290322
its reported that people have many kids in conditions of war and poverty, while they dont in stability and wealth. the causality is clear. if the west were in fact poorer, people would have more kids.

>>2290324
But that seems contrary to reason, to have kids you cannot support

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Happy Tulsa Massacre Day leftypol!

Remember, in America if you're not living in poverty as a black person that's casus belli for whitey to murder you and bomb your entire neighborhood

>>2290312
Here are examples of what it classified as ANTISEMITISM

>>2290325
>But that seems contrary to reason, to have kids you cannot support
yes. have you seen the types of people who have loads of kids out of wedlock? not the rational types.

>>2290329
But in regards to mass trends, that somehow people become more rational because they're richer

>>2290321
literally kill yourself retard

>>2290331
richer people are more rational, yes. education is always at a higher quality in richer countries.

>>2290327
A few more examples of what scholars there consider antisemitism

>>2290312
You can't tell a jew what antisemitism is and isn't sweaty, ever heard of standpoint theory?

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Cartoonishly evil

>>2290331
Have you ever spoken to a brokie? They're dumb as fuck.

yeah fuck dem broke people

>>2290369
i am broke and i approve. 17 pennies in my bank.

What you think this is gonna cause a little more anger?

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San Diego antifascists put up enough resistance to militarized ICE agents kidnapping people that they had to deploy tear gas. Keep up the pressure folks

>>2290340
>deportations still haven't begun
wtf is this dude doing besides posting impotently

>>2290382
Where is the attack? The text implied someone was going to get shot, but no shots were fired at all, not even rubber bullets or flashbangs. Lame and gay.

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>>2290382
>if you get tear gassed, you win

>>2290406
They did use flashbangs, for some reason they're not depicted in this video. But tear gas and smoke bombs are chemical weapons so even if not very exciting that is still a form of attack. It's a good sign though that they're being forced to use crowd control techniques just to carry out their orders, it means they're pushing the state to respond violently to community self defense. Now the task is getting people preempted to resist tear gas and force more direct confrontation

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>>2290166
>Where did "the Founders were God-fearing Christians" cope even come from?
Probably when they added "under god" to everything in 1954.

Although the declaration of independance says creator. Basically this is a free mason country. You're alright as long as you believe in some creator god.

>>2290301
>that having children is too expensive and would be detrimental to their lives and careers
They have children, just not biological ones.

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>>2289708
>Stay at home son
becomes:
>stay at home husband

This was so typical of an arrangement for women back in the day.
>Stay at home daughter
to
>Stay at home wife.

This is how we fix the low birthrates. Women are the ones that are driven to go to school and get careers these days. Why not let the men get a turn staying home, doing light chores, then spend the rest of the day mentally enriching ourself through arts and crafts and hobbies and reading homemaking magazines and reader's digest and etc.

>>2290416
In fact, women would never ever do the full compliment of chores. Like you never see imagery of women pushing a lawnmower. A man can take care of the full compliment, yardwork, floor cleaning, dusting, dishes, laundry, cooking. It'd be like 2 hours of work a day max.

>>2290416
Please dont make my wife become the breadwinner, she has a misogyny kink and it would be super bad for her self esteem and our sex life if she was the primary provider of the family

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USA surrenders in the Space Race

>>2290433
>USA surrenders the money laundering scheme

>>2290416
Working class women always had to work. It's only ever been the upper class or upper strata (labor aristocrat) women who got to be stay-at-home wives not doing any work. This only became somewhat more common in the postwar west due to a temporary jump in prosperity.

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So Pete Hegseth just announced another pivot to Asia.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4202504/hegseth-outlines-us-vision-for-indo-pacific-addresses-china-threat/

What is this, like the 4th time?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-american-pivot-to-asia/

That's going to be the thing from now on. Every new presidency, a whole new pivot to Asia. Turn 360 degrees, and pivot to Asia.

please get some chinese card-carrying communist on mars before space x does, jesus

>>2290437
>Working class women always had to work. It's only ever been the upper class or upper strata (labor aristocrat) women who got to be stay-at-home wives not doing any work. This only became somewhat more common in the postwar west due to a temporary jump in prosperity.
Yeah and those are the women not having kids. Instead of being a housewife, now they're never relinquishing their careers. Yeah it used to be the thing for them to continue on with their education like they were getting a career, but leave as soon as they found a guy. My aunt was in med school in like the 70s and that was something asked of her because it was so common: "Are you just here looking for a husband?" Because that's what a lot of women did. In fact my grandmother, I know she went to nursing school, I don't know if she went all the way to be a nurse, but she met my grandfather in nursing school, who was himself becoming a doctor, and she became a stay at home wife after that.

>>2290441
There will be communists on the Moon before Americans for sure


>>2290443
*My aunt did go all the way and became a pediatrician and worked until retirement.

>>2290446
>this hypothetical makes americans piss themselves in anger and fear

>>2290445
stop right there, criminal

i wish we still had the moon phone

The problem with the soviet space program is they focused too much on actual science, aerospace technology and sharing technology with fellow socialist nations so they too can learn about space y'know instead of shooting some guy to a dusty rock for clout and bragging rights.

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>Do nothing
>Win

>>2290456
Win what exactly?

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lmao

>>2289708
How do chuds reconcile the vast majority of right-wing pundits shitting them more than any liberal does, like all they do is bitching about how much young men backstabbed them or something
>>2290457
mid terms.

>>2290459
They didn't receive the "go ahead" from China for production of moon landing hoaxes, clearly

>>2290450
>makes americans piss themselves in anger and fear
Anon, those are characters in an American TV show.

>>2290459
two more weeks

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>>2289784
>>2289837
Empathy does not mean sympathy.

Empathy does not mean morality.

It means you understand how other people feel. It doesn't mean you give a shit how other people feel. That's sympathy. It also doesn't mean that you feel any compulsion or duty to prevent and heal any pain and hurt. That's morality.

>>2290462
>do nothing and win
such is the nature of rigged, gerrymandered election.

>>2290466
watching it makes americans piss themselves in anger and fear

>>2290470
I mostly heard leftypol bitching about that show because they feel the portrayal of the soviets in later seasons wasn't so favorable.

>>2290473
It's a pretty good show IMO. Definitely one of the more interesting sci-fis on TV.

>>2290473
anon the whole thing is unfavorable

>>2290475
>anon the whole thing is unfavorable
Naw. The first season wasn't really at all. I remember reading the bitching before I got to the later seasons and I was like "what are you even talking about?" First season is pretty much entirely favorable. The USSR moon landings force the US too also speedrun gender and racial equality in their space program.

The show is often unfavorable to the US as well. I think you guys are ridiculously sensitive.

>>2290478
And a lot of the unfavorable stuff on the USSR, I think is because they're trying to mirror the real history of the collapse of the Soviet Union, while providing an alternative that it actually survives.

probably wont happen in my lifetime, but in a century or so, they will passively admit that we never went to the moon, and all the true believers wont have to face their sycophantic hypocrisy. it will just be one of those quaint things we all take in jest, forgetting that this was a global religion held together with tape and tin foil, just like the original lunar module.

the soviets didn't put a man on the moon so subsequently all space exploration is corporate, pseudo-progressive (female astronauts but never pilots/engineers) nonsense is essentially what that show is saying
oh and north korea put a man on mars in 1995

>>2290479
>>2290478
>real history of the collapse of the Soviet Union
You see, "real history" of the collapse of the Soviet Union is actually an alternative reality. USSR fell apart for reasons entirely different than what American propaganda peddles.

I don't think the USSR would have been allowed to exist if the coup was a success to be honest.

The FBI says they finally found, and will release a video that proves Epstein died by suicide. They had to wait for the AI technology to catch up.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-05-29/fbi-to-release-video-that-officials-say-prove-jeffrey-epstein-was-not-murdered
FBI says it will release video that officials say prove Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide

>China is going to invade Taiwan
>China is going to invade Taiwan
>China is going to invade Taiwan
>oh and North Korea exists, so they err, they're a threat too
>*begs weapon contractors to invest in countries that won't do shit if China invades*
bravo

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>>2290498
>China is going to invade Taiwan
China is too busy being friends with Israel to care.

here we go again

>>2290503
Wait till you find out which country traded the weapons Israel used to win the first war they ever got into.

>>2290503
This is a flag of a Bulgarian town, though


>>2290517
>fake chinese account

>>2290517
>>2290503
>2025
>bloodgasm is at le handshake meme
don't poop yourself while peeing yourself, smartass.

Interestingly it seems like le reddit atheism might make a comeback, ever since jordan peterson destroyed a lot of christfag's kromer with that debate he had.

>>2290433
I can't wait to see neil degrasse tyson malding at this.

>>2290503
Oh man, I guess China will stop receiving my "support".

What will China do without the support of impotent leftists?

>>2290519
I mean it's pretty fucked up a so-called socialist would shake hands and reassure trading ties with a with a war-criminal whose country is currently conducting a murderous genocide.

The USSR is too busy being friends with Germany to care.

>>2290525
Soviets were last in Europe to sign anything with Nazis - and only in response to Britain and France doing so

>>2290524
>I-I mean
no, you don't mean anything.
1) Hezbollah, and Hamas want a two-state solution
2) WHAT DO YOU KNOW MORE THAN HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH?
3)A two-state solution means other countries are entitled to engage with the zionists
4) all of what israel does to violate those wishing come from the west financing, no China's
cope and seethe.

this is what idealists actually believe

>>2290530
>WHAT DO YOU KNOW MORE THAN HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH?
<proceeds to defend economoc trade that will ultimately undermine Palestinian resistance under the guise of le two-state solution.
Mf, Israelis are implementing a final solution as we speak.


>>2290550
"All of a sudden???"

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>>2290549
>defend economoc trade
>le trade undermines Palestinian resistance
I guess we must kill Palestinians because Palestinians motherfuckers are trading with the zionists.
cope and seethe x2, radlib
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/pse/partner/isr

I think Hamas should reject a ceasefire unless it's some amazing deal for them because at this point Israel is getting hell from all sides by all of European politicians, USA media and European media. They are getting blasted everyday now with unfavorable coverage

It is in Israel interest to stop the international relations bleeding they are experiencing. Hamas has a revolutionary mentality where they are willing to withstand bodily losses for this type of result in an idea of a greater goal and it's working for them. They are in the type of position it the Taliban of just keep resisting and the enemy will keep looking worse and worse from it.

Hamas should not accept a ceasefire

>>2290549
So far China has gotten along with liberals on the premise of not overtly using trade as a weapon. What would China specifically gain from this , other than putting that longstanding attitude in doubt?

Also, Israel is by far the least of China's contributions to evil if you follow your logic, given how much they trade with the USA and it's allies.

>>2290557 (me)

I am waiting for your smartsie pantsie ultra radlibery reply, smartass >>2290549

>>2290556
Yeah, they were much more edgy before. More willing to use threats of violence, now they are just whining about being canceled or some bullshit.

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NYT moment

it's raining tacos

>>2290549
Palestine is closer than ever before to a state thanks to Chinese diplomacy like the Beijing Declaration for Palestinian Unity. Look at what the israeli atlantic council experts are saying and you'll realize China plays a complicated game, one that doesn't convince the Israelis that China is on their side. This interview has a lot of interesting stuff in it (originally posted in Italian)

>Tuvia Gering: When it comes to business, the Chinese regime is very friendly with Israel. When it comes to politics and ideology, it supports the Palestinians. The Chinese see that Israel is very unpopular in the world. This also ties in with the historical legacy that has led China to support the Palestinians, regardless of terrorism.

>>2290549
Also also
>Mf, Israelis are implementing a final solution as we speak.
Yes and that should have definitely proven the failure of BDS. THe genocide is 90% done, we are getting the wrapup now.

Whatever measure of activism and whatever organizations that existed before have now faced the worst scenario and been proven useless at stopping it. All they can boast is some abstract PR dmg, the same that was claimed before would be instrumental in Palestinian liberation. Guess again.


>>2290576
>>2290574
>>2290564
don't explain thing to radlibs, use their own line of logic: >>2290557. they get stuck, and will never engage or reply with a comback that doesn't make them look stupider than they are.


I don't care what zionists are saying on reddit

>>2290583
The whining, it's so fucking unbearable.

get this reddit shit off my screen

revolution soon

>Hamas would be winning easily if China didn't sell Israel printers and laptop parts

>>2290593
apex communist bloodgasm thinking.

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Why are we even talking about Chyna and Pissrael anyways? This is the burgerreich general for burgerreich problems, complain about how bad Chyna and Pissrael are in their respective threads plox

Back on topic, what's the material explanation for ICE agents having "body armor" that only covers 20% of your torso?

And you can have it all my empire of printers

The US nuclear deal proposal has finally been sent to Iran for review.

>>2290569
r/stupidpolers when it comes to using terms that actually do piss off the right (We can't do it because it's le bad)

Hostages are worth a lot at this point. One of most revolutionary things a westerner can do now is go to Gaza and turn yourself in to Hamas as a hostage then give them leverage.

I suggest those angry about the china trade should do it. You'll make a big difference

Kimmels used it, it's over now.

>>2290606
>One of most revolutionary things a westerner can do now is go to Gaza and turn yourself in to Hamas as a hostage then give them leverage.
hostages give them zero leverage. israel just kills the hostages

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>>2290606
>One of most revolutionary things a westerner can do now is go to Gaza and turn yourself in to Hamas as a hostage then give them leverage.
kek
only if they are ameriburgers.

>>2290583
i'm sure any posts that gives them perspective, like "you are hated for committing genocide, not for being jewish" is banned or shadowbanned on sight

>>2290612
>Euroids, canadians and australians are exempt
hmmmmmmmmmm

if the left is using a fucking wall street shareholder slogan that is emphasising how he going hard enough on chinah then we are fucked

>>2290583
>golda meir
I'm sure if I look up that name it will not be associated with war crimes in any way


>>2290578
>right click is disabled
>inspect element is disabled
oh god further enshittification of the web
fucking just kill me now. they'll really do anything. what's next? print screen is disabled? selecting text is disabled? fuck me. they'll really do anything to protect "ownership" over something that has no cost of production

>>2290621
yeah but we want him to go balls deep on sanctions because it will backfire. they want him to go balls deep on sanctions because they think it will work

>>2290627
yeah its terrible i had to type the whole quote out

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>>2290606
>go to Gaza to help
These are literally Israeli talking points you glowie fuck.

>>2290634
Did he get those glasses from China? Is China working with the CIA now?

lmao thats the only one he replies to

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>>2290609
Every meme that late night talk touches has died soon after. Maybe they get off to ruining everything

>>2290642
skibidi biden is the reason trump won

>>2290598
Are these guys larping or for real? That one guy is just too fat

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>>2290627
>right click is disabled
That's been around for awhile.
>inspect element is disabled
>>2290632
>yeah its terrible i had to type the whole quote out
You can still go into the HTML manually. Alternatively you could screencap and use OCR.

Best way: Firefox>More Tools>Web Developer tools>Inspector>Ctrl+F>Search for words from paragraph you want to copy paste.

I can't read Italian so I'm not sure this is the paragraph you translated.

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>>2290525
you really doing "muh molotov ribbentrop pact" like we don't know?

>>2290652
>doesn't get it

>>2290650
there's a translation menu built in on the bottom right. I'm just deeply annoyed at the web dev trend of keeping all "intellectual property" out of the user's reach because I'm piratepileld

>>2290654
>heheh, i am making le secret joke, i will never explain teehee
ok good for you

>>2290658
don't engage in posts you don't know the connection to

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>>2290659
I was replying to >>2290525 which wasn't replying to anyone else. It appears to be "muh soviets allied with nazis" typical liberal bitching but if it has some secret meaning in connection with something else, congratulations on deliberately obfuscating your conversation and then acting surprised when people reply. you are welcome at any moment to explain yourself instead of acting like a smug toddler secretly walking around with shit in their diaper

scroll up if you're so interested

>>2290661
>freeze rent
next week these guys will attend the "healthcare discount" protest

>>2290665
that's radical enough in america

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>>2290656
>there's a translation menu built in on the bottom right. I'm just deeply annoyed at the web dev trend of keeping all "intellectual property" out of the user's reach because I'm piratepileld
Yeah it's annoying, but I showed you how you can grab the text from the code if need be in the future.

>>2290668
Yeah I forgot to say thanks for that. Thanks.

The Israeli government has barred foreign ministers from a number of Arab states, including Jordan and Saudi Arabia, from visiting the Israeli-occupied West Bank to meet with Palestinian leaders, the Jordanian government said on Saturday.

A Jordanian foreign ministry statement said the delegation had planned to meet in the West Bank city of Ramallah on Sunday with Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority, which administers parts of the territory. A visit by such high-ranking Arab officials to the West Bank would have been very unusual.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/31/world/middleeast/israel-arab-ministers-west-bank.html

>>2290664
I have him filtered. whoops

>>2290671
that's alright babe I forgive you

>>2290624
>I was forced to partake in customs of another culture.
>I have disrespected my racist family, my racist self and my racist future children
lol

>>2290676
Israelis are like Imperial Japanese except they just bitch instead of slitting their bellies open

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lol trumps dad was a klansman

>>2290680
this is old news. circulated in 2015 when he was running for his first term but was known before then.

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what has demdolf bratler been doing since she lost?

the problem with nazism with social liberal characteristics is that it already exists

>>2290557
>implying Palestinians have any control over who they can trade with and that any "trade" with the Zionist Entity is not just completed coerced.
>Implying the Palestinian Authority is not also complicit in Israeli aggression and terror.
You are a liberal coward and a zionist bootlicker.
>>2290574
>links and interview with a zionist scholar
I'm not reading all that free Palestine. Jfc, thier words are worth less than shit at this point. Thier deeds though can paint the world red with the blood of children ten times over. They deserve nothing but contempt, resistance, and a trip to the Hague. Shame on all countries who freely trade with these bastards.

>>2290695
>me no like reading, words bad emotional platitudes good
not surprised

>>2290627
I wouldn't be surprised if cut and copy eventually gets completely disabled at the os level. Pretty soon the only things we be able to click on is "download", "delete" and "block".

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>>2290699
>let's listen to what zionists have to say
No.

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>>2290702
excessive emotional reaction good, truth bad. truth hurt good western sensibilities

>>2290701
delete will get replaced with "send files to CIA archives"

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Wait. No, no, no let Radio Free Asia cook…

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>>2290712
Why do liberals hate xi so much. He's just a bureaucrat, doesn't even have dictatorial swag like putin or saddam
Really weird, like what's he actually done that's so objectionable to liberals

>>2290714
muh tiny man square muh weegers in shin jang muh liberate hong kong muh free tibet muh see see pee one party dick tater shit muh china colonized africa muh free taiwan

their action movies don't use squibs

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You gotta love America like Roman Bellic loves America brother

>>2290609
Meh so what? It is true about his negotiation strategy anyway.

>>2290714
because muh uyghurs (giving islamists the chance at rehabilitation instead of bombing them and funding jihadists to fight jihadists) and muh hong kongers fighting the government by flying the flag of the british colonial administration who beat them with sticks

>>2290708
Why do you use the words of Mao to justify the continued trade with a genocidal country and the complete liquidation of armed resistance and Palestinian liberation?

>>2290714
The reason is literally just "China bad" and absolutely nothing else!

>>2290722
Um it's called geopolitics sweaty

>>2290709
>delete will get replaced with "send files to CIA archives"
Who's going to read them? Isn't most of the CIA gone now thanks to Trump?

in 2023
>Israel imported $773m weapons from the USA
>Israel imported $2m weapons from China
>damn, both sides are bad on this issue?
>but are they equally bad? or is one side 386.5 times worse?
>and this isn't even looking at what types of weapons commodities China sells to Isarel (mostly unassembled gun parts) vs. what USA sells (finished explosives)
>and this isn't even looking at the fact that the USA gives away billions of dollars of weapons to Israel for FREE
>and this isn't even looking at how the Israel lobby has totally captured a government that has passed legislation called "Citizen's United" which totally deregulates campaign donation
>but who cares? this is Genocide? How can one side be worse? both sides are equally bad!
>let me go to the /USApol/ thread to bitch about china exclusively
>let me ignore all the material conditions, incentives, and actual strategic differences between China and America
>let me flatten everything into a vague homogenous "anti-capitalism" that doesn't analyze anything in detail but still be sure to more vocally oppose China than America in the America thread
>no I won't go to /PRC/ to bitch about china… that would be unfair to me

>>2290730
in 2125 all humans will be dead. there will only be AI algorithms running on underground servers trading stocks with each other to create the illusion of GDP growth in a barren wasteland destroyed by climate change

>>2290732
You seem pretty cucked out because capitalist china loves zionism so much

>>2290734
doing it again…
>let me go to the /USApol/ thread to bitch about china exclusively
>let me ignore all the material conditions, incentives, and actual strategic differences between China and America
>let me flatten everything into a vague homogenous "anti-capitalism" that doesn't analyze anything in detail but still be sure to more vocally oppose China than America in the America thread

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>I need the CIA to make cartoons for me to understand geopolitics

>>2290737
>Material conditions is when you trade with a genocidal colonial piece of shit way smaller and economically fragile than yours while your biggest fan cucks out on leftypol
Lol

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There is certainly a vibeshift happening in the right, even retards from /fit/ seems to be picking up on it.


>>2290714
>Why do liberals hate xi so much. He's just a bureaucrat, doesn't even have dictatorial swag like putin or saddam
That's Rebel Pepper who's a Voice of America or RFE/RL cartoonist from China who "picked too many quarrels" lol and left China and advocates for Shanghai separatism. I think it's a bit different with the Chinese libs.

But I agreeand think Xi's bureaucrat vibe is more alluring to a liberal. You have to play happy, soothing music to the Xi walking montage.

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>>2290722
the answer you seek can be found by reading words and not through the emotions you have no control over

I know a wine-drinking, half-blind woman nearing 80 who is a full #resist lib and likes China and wants some kind of socialist system. She does not like Russia. And also she's a British monarchist. It's crazy out here.

>>2290746
thats just down to how crazy british politics has been for 20 years

>>2290746
That’s a true vibes based political scientist

>>2290746
Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Just as Hegel intended

https://revcom.us/sites/default/files/socialistconstitution/SocialistConstitution-en.pdf

THOTS on Revcom's proposed constitution for a socialist America? Is it based, cringe or a secret third thing?

>>2290746
There won't be a socialist Amerikkka.

>>2290756
Shit. Meant for >>2290754

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>>2290734
>>2290741
I'm not defending what China is doing. I'm pointing out a massive asymmetry that isn't entering into your analysis. When you flatten an objective asymmetry out of moral indignation that is objectively ignoring material conditions.

Example. If you were in a real war, and you had two fronts, and you committed an equal number of troops to both front fronts, and one of those fronts had way more enemies than the other, then you would be getting people killed by flattening an objective asymmetry. That's just one example.

Seriously, let's look at the actual material difference between the weapons Israel imports from China and the weapons Israel imports from America, looking at the most recently available data from 2023.

The data is explicit. The weapons Israel imports from China are mostly parts for pistols and revolvers. So civilian sidearms. And not even finished civilian sidearms but parts and accessories for civilian sidearms.

Meanwhile the weapons Israel imports from America are mostly explosives, munitions of war.

More importantly there is a huge difference in scale. $2 million in 2023 vs. $773 million in 2023. USA sold 386.5 times more weapons.

I'm not saying you shouldn't criticize China, I'm saying it's important to root your criticism in the actual context of what's happening. You want all criticism and no context. You want to flatten asymmetry. Meanwhile if someone comes to you with the context you pretend they are simping for China rather than showing you the asymmetry. That is not even touching the fact that we are in the America thread. Should I also remind you how many more offshore military bases the USA has than China?

Why not bring up this stuff in /PRC/ Is /USApol/ the thread for opposing US imperialism, or is it the thread for flattening the differences between America and America's "near-peer adversaries?"

>>2290757
>>2290756
Not with that attitude buster

>>2290748
Well she's lived here for awhile because she has some royalist stuff in her house and (interesting to me) a nice collection of British naval fiction because she comes from a line of Royal Navy officers going well back into the 19th century. She's a painter and my brother walks her dogs, so while we're setting up galleries at his spot (she had a show recently) we'll go over there and help her out with stuff and drink some wine.

I was bonding with her a bit by making fun of J.D. Vance shooting a gun compared to the British royals who do it much better. Like a Joe Rogan thing, "hey, pull up the pic of Diana shooting the submachine gun." Then I called them the royals a bunch of barbarians to tease her but it's true. They're warlords who conquered the British isles a thousand years ago. Vance is a dweeby corporate lawyer. No contest.

>>2290759
The time would be easier spend just convincing other countries to decouple from Amerikkka making it the world's number 1 enemy instead of convincing the world's least class concious and most reactionary people to become socialist.

>>2290770
What if I want to live in socialism and protect those around me from the hell of neoliberalism?

>>2290770
hell there's an argument to be made that, due to the lack of a revolutionary left in america, you'd be better off supporting separatist wingnuts in america to dismantle the empire. a balkanized America can then have its own revolutions in each state one at a time.

>>2290773
ok then get started building up guerilla cadres. it will take decades

>>2290743
>The first of the deeper issues is the statement’s ableism, reflecting ableism more broadly in the Philly Steering Committee’s handling of the case and a lack of attention to disability issues in certain sectors of the PSL. The members of the Central Committee are not so politically underdeveloped as to be explicitly bigoted in their handling of mental illness, and one must therefore be aware of indicators—but a subtle undercurrent remains throughout the statement. Griselda's behavior is repeatedly portrayed as extreme and bizarre, without any disclosure of the Party's knowledge of her bipolar disorder. This is addressed both by Griselda herself repeatedly on Twitter and in her own public statement, and by Dakota in his resignation statement. The best reading of this use of the stigma associated with symptoms of mental
illness is that it was an unconscious bias, while the worst is that it was a cynical and deliberate tactic. This author chooses to believe the first interpretation and pleads with the authors of the Central Committee statement to consider why they went out of their way to play up the “hysterical woman” stereotype in their portrayal of a woman who is quite open about living with bipolar disorder. The Philly Steering Committee handled this in an ableist manner by scrutinizing all of Griselda's statements for their veracity, except for threats to call law enforcement made during an acute episode, which they took at face value (as Dakota describes in his letter).

>This is emblematic of a larger pattern of disregard for, and at times seeming aversion to, discussion of

issues surrounding accessibility and disability as an issue for marginalized people in the PSL that this author has personally witnessed. The Chicago branch, for example, has not had a wheelchair-accessible office for at least four years—in one memorable incident in 2017, a comrade had to be physically carried upstairs in his wheelchair, carrying a dangerous risk of injury for both the comrade in the wheelchair and the members who helped carry him. This problem has been verbally acknowledged at meetings, repeatedly, but there has never been any deeper discussion or plans to remedy the issue, citing the expense associated with securing a ground floor office space. This author has no idea why an upper-floor office in a building with an elevator would not suffice. In another instance, the Chicago representative of the National Organizing Department (NOD) and a then-member of the Chicago branch Steering Committee worked together to bury an at-large candidate’s criticism regarding alleged deficiencies in the Party’s political line around disability. They assured this member that the only appropriate way to raise this criticism would be as a proposal to the Party Congress, which at that time was scheduled to take place in ten months. The candidate’s criticism and proposals were never presented at the Party Congress in question. It should be noted that both the Chicago NOD lead and the Chicago Steering Committee member were long-time members of the PSL (one a founding member).

What a bunch of nonsense.

>>2290714
It’s penis envy
Libs wish they could do nothing and still win like he does.

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Democrats making an effort to connect with young men.
>Fat coastal liberal woman who charges $150,000 to speak
>”””Former””” Hitlerite race soyentist
>Texan twink neoliberal
Radiating genius, I am in awe.

https://migrantinsider.com/p/exclusive-russian-dissident-says

>He’s been locked up in Arizona’s Eloy Detention Center for three months now. The place is a private immigration jail run by CoreCivic, a billion-dollar prison conglomerate whose record on human rights reads like a rap sheet. Eloy is where the system sends people it wants to disappear.


>All of this—the threats, the violence, the persecution—happens inside a for-profit cage where people die of medical neglect. Maksim knew the Ethiopian detainee who recently died at Eloy from untreated HIV. “Medical is playing with me,” the man told Maksim and other Russian detainees before he died. Maksim says Eloy’s medical staff don’t treat anything until you collapse. “Ibuprofen. That’s it,” he says.


>Maksim tells me he has developed a kinship with the transgender detainees in particular, who he says face brutal harassment from both guards and fellow inmates. “I’ve befriended several,” he says. “But here, especially for trans people… just disappear. One day they’re here, the next day, no one knows. Were they deported? Released? No one tells us.”

>>2290416
This is already happening to many households. stay at home dad has been a trope for a while.

>>2290695
>You are a liberal coward and a zionist bootlicker.
>dengoid 2.0 defends trade between anyone between zionists and everyone else's!
NO U

>>2290722
you keep defending trade between zionists and everyone, dengbeetloid 2.0

>>2290789

This is it fellas

This is our only opposition party large enough to hold offices

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>>2290789
Mr Banania… I Kneel..

>>2290803
>This is already happening to many households. stay at home dad has been a trope for a while.
Maybe this is how it should be since men seem to be more interested in politics in general. Women typically are only involved in niche issue like: School boards, banning books/media, other child related shit. I've long heard about Muslim countries where the men are like stay at home Quran scholars, while the wife works. Maybe this is how we have a political revolution.

very amusing to scroll through left wing social media accounts and it's like "yeah I rightfully support the oppressed palestinian struggle for national self determination against a western backed militarist power but I do NOT support the oppressed-dombas struggle for self determination against a western backed militarist power"

>>2290819
> School boards, banning books/media, other child related shit
That stuff is political though. And men have always cared about that stuff as well, possibly to an even greater extent historically. Anyway… as a stay at home dad I do get way more interaction with the children as well as doing way more domestic chores than my wife. But I also have a computer job on top of that. So I have to juggle meetings, phone calls, chores, kids etc. It's like, clock in, do some tickets, send some emails, clock out, do dishes, shitpost on leftypol, clock in, etc.

yes I'm petty bourgeois I've come to terms with that

>>2290820
because the russia-ukraine thing is way more abstract to them. they just see russia invading in 2022 and don't understand the history of NATO expansion. Also they've had their ears filled with russiagate nonsense for years.

Israel/Palestine is a lot easier to understand than Russia/Ukraine.

>>2290825
Well if you're employed full-time that's not really a true stay at home kind of thing. I was about to say that there is a guy on here who is a stay at home dad, and here you are, or at least I assume you are the guy I've seen on here posting about that.

I honestly think one of the biggest issues we face with dealing with the circumstances and the material conditions that are presented with us as the left—I'm saying the nebulous "the left"—is this ironic fucking detachment, this Josh whedon, this fucking nothing-matters, take-the-grill-pill, just-enjoy-it fucking nonsense, bro. I'm so sick of it. I am so sick of fucking being like, hey, here are things that we could bring to our organizations, here are things that we could do, here are things that are actionable. Here are—let's get down to the brass tacks and discuss what we could do within the next 48 hours to make things happen. I'm gonna get the word out, and you just get hit with some fucking redditor meme-waiting fucking nonsense like—listen, my man, if the only thing that you have to say is something that is a fucking five-word reply that's just there to collect upvotes—just shut the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up. I'm gonna be completely fucking real—just shut the fuck up.

I just watched a fucking restaurant get flashbanged. They're fucking in the restaurant, people are chilling in the restaurant—they throw a flashbang, and all of a sudden ICE is storming in and taking people and just ripping them off the streets, no process, throwing them into vans. That's what we're fucking dealing with. That's what we're dealing with right fucking now. Yesterday I see a fucking video clip of—they're in a fucking literal concentration camp with barbed wire. It's on the front page. It's on the front page of every goddamn website. It's not—it's not "bro just stop." Just stop fucking looking at it, bro. Just, you know, just stop looking at it and, you know, just close your eyes and everything will be fine, bro. You're going crazy. It's literally on the front fucking page of every goddamn website. And no—matter of fact—I don't even get this shit from leftist sites and sources anymore. If you want to get footage from what's happening, you want to get ICE footage, it's not giving it on the leftist sites. Everyone—everyone here's already checked the fuck out. You're getting it on the front fucking page, on like the top three posts of the day. Like if I'm just gonna—I'm taking a shit and I'm just gonna check my phone, just tap in, let me check my phone, and that's what you see. You see that video of people getting ripped up off the streets. You see literal genocide. And you're like—you think, okay, well maybe we should start doing something about it. What can we do about it? Let's find other people who might be interested in talking about it. And everyone's just ironically detached. Doesn't matter. Nothing fucking matters.

I'm sick of it. I'm fucking sick of it. I'm so fucking sick of it. I don't know how to stretch it. I'm sick of this shit. Because everything matters. And it matters more than ever. But I guess I and like three other people are the only people who give a fuck. And everyone else is content with taking the grill pill. I don't know who the fuck invented this fucking term "take the grill pill." Take the grill pill with what? The $7.99 hot dogs from the fucking corner store? Everything's too goddamn expensive. The cost of living is up. People are stressed the fuck out. People are looking for action. They're looking for leaders. They're looking for people who are on the ground, who are building shit up. And every time I think I'm in a space where I'm gonna be able to find those people—nah. "Yeah I know things are fucked up, bro. You just—just—just this is what it is, bro. Yeah, nothing we can do about it. Just enjoy it, man. I'm grilling, bro. Taking the grill pill. Just take it. Just go touch grass, bro." And help them to it, man.

I'm sick of it. I'm fucking sick of it. And yet those are the—and yet these are the same people who are like crabs in the bucket as soon as you start talking about actionable, ideologically-backed, theory-backed shit that we could do. That 100 people on the internet can do. That five people on the internet can get together and do. Like that. Small things we can do in our communities as individuals. I'm not gonna talk about made—I'm not gonna talk about major plays. Most of us just are hanging with the wall. That's not gonna do anything. So it's not the week to do—like, fucking what the fuck? What's the point? What's the point? Is the point of the left—the nebulous left—to take people like me, who are hungry as fuck for revolutionary theory and thought and action, and you just demoralize us and degrade us and make us feel like we're the fucking dumb ones?

Sorry for being sincere and giving a fuck. I'm not built for this ironic post-meta humor bullshit. And so we give up and then join you—the fucking Grill Pillers. Fuck your Grill Pill.

>>2290820
the difference is that one lost and the other won, communism for some is about losing and being a victim
https://www.blackagendareport.com/western-marxism-loves-purity-and-martyrdom-not-real-revolution

We're in worse conditions than nazi germany but the internet has convinced us that we're not because you can distract yourself with cartoons, overpriced candy, and video games.

The genocide is already ongoing, and in the rubble of it all these times will be seen as far more murderous and evil than anything the nazis or the worst caricatures of soviets could ever muster up.

>>2290862
nah bro we introduced nazi bureaucracy into our country generations ago during operation paperclip, get with it man.

>>2290789
hes not even former he just dislikes trump for making him look bad

>>2290863
Right, and those monsters have had decades to brew even worse shit than the people in hitler's world had to deal with

>>2290850
It has come to our attention that the collective efforts of our organizational community—broadly referred to as our team—are being significantly undermined by a pervasive attitude of disengagement and unprofessional detachment. This behavior, characterized by a dismissive, ironic approach to critical initiatives, is highly concerning and counterproductive to our shared objectives. We are deeply disappointed by the consistent pattern of presenting well-researched, actionable proposals—strategies that could be implemented within a 48-hour timeframe to advance our organizational goals—only to be met with brief, unconstructive responses that appear designed to garner superficial approval rather than contribute meaningfully to our mission. Such responses are unacceptable and do not align with our expectations for professional conduct. Employees are respectfully requested to refrain from such commentary and focus on substantive contributions.

We have observed alarming real-world challenges that demand our immediate attention. For instance, recent reports indicate instances of aggressive interventions in public spaces, such as dining establishments, where individuals have been forcibly removed without due process. These incidents, widely documented across major platforms, are not isolated but reflect systemic issues that require urgent action. Additionally, media coverage has highlighted conditions resembling extreme confinement facilities, prominently featured on reputable outlets. These are not abstract concerns but pressing realities that impact our communities directly. It is disheartening to note that our internal channels, intended to foster proactive dialogue, have been largely silent, with external sources providing more visibility on these matters than our own team discussions.

This culture of detachment is detrimental to our organizational health. It represents a deliberate choice to prioritize disengagement over accountability, often encapsulated in phrases that trivialize our responsibilities, such as “disengaging from workplace challenges.” We strongly reject this mindset. Our employees are facing significant economic pressures—escalating costs and financial strain—that demand leadership, collaboration, and action. Yet, our forums, which should serve as hubs for innovative solutions, are instead filled with dismissive remarks such as “accept the status quo” or “disengage and relax.” This is a direct violation of our values and undermines the efforts of those committed to our mission.

Most concerning is the tendency among some team members to actively discourage meaningful proposals. When colleagues present practical, evidence-based strategies—initiatives that small groups or individuals could implement within their spheres of influence—they are met with derision or apathy, often framed as questioning the purpose of such efforts. Let us be clear: the purpose is our collective responsibility to address systemic challenges and support our communities. Our organization exists to foster engaged, passionate individuals who are committed to driving change, not to stifle those who demonstrate dedication. The current environment, which discourages sincerity and dismisses commitment as unproductive, is antithetical to our core principles.

We are not here to tolerate a culture of disengagement. Our organization demands active participation, not passive acceptance of challenges. We are not equipped to condone dismissive attitudes toward critical issues or to excuse inaction as a personality trait. Our team must be a catalyst for meaningful change, not a barrier to it. Those who choose to disengage, who prioritize superficial commentary over substantive action, are failing to uphold our standards. We urge all employees to recommit to our shared goals, to engage with sincerity, and to contribute to solutions. Those who cannot align with this expectation are respectfully requested to step aside, as we are focused on building a proactive, dedicated workforce. This is a critical moment for our organization, and we expect every team member to act accordingly.

Weren't the Nazis essentially the harbingers of neoliberalism?

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>>2290805
>>2290808
No country should trade with Israel. Simple as. Labeling me a dengoid to try and insinuate that I think only China shouldn't trade with Israel is fucking stupid. We should hold every country to the same standard in regards to trading with a country doing genocide, especially a so-called socialist country, who should be put on a higher standard than the run of the mill capitalist power. But real dengoids are devoid of this critical eye because to hold thier golden cow to such critism opens the door to actually seeing that modern China is a capitalist imperialist power who is in league with the other imperialist powers in thier interests of capital and that means supporting reaction as long as they can reap better benefits than loss.

>>2290854
>>2290875
>No country should trade with Israel
exactly, death to Palestinians for trading with the zios, dengbeettle 2.0.
kys, radlib

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Bruh Trump gave Musk a golden key with a Reddit logo. The Reddit Occupied Government is real

>>2290877
Yes down with the Palestinian Authority in thier willingness to aid Israeli terror by using the forced labor of the Palestinian masses to aid thier rapists and terrorizors! The Palestinians themselves do not trade with Israel, they are forced into servitude to Zionist masters and thier right is to rebel.

>>2290882
the reddit don

>>2290882
full image?

>>2290789
is this sponsored by a democrat organization?

Am I the only one that likes that Trump isnt letting Gusanos go to school here? Is it that bad to want Americans to get educated before anyone else?

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>>2290884
>>2290887
Here you go, from the official White House account


>>2290875
only a federal agent would want china to break international trade law and divert precious resources fighting lawsuits in an american controlled legal system which would otherwise be used to build a modern socialist state. so unless you're willing to personally offset the price china must pay for an action that would be of little to no consequence, you have no right to speak

>>2290895
we did it reddit

We need to break the effeminate leftist stereotype to bring back young men. The messaging to young men should be that the right are effete businessmen and leftists are blue collar, working class trade unionists.

>>2290901
young men will say "what's a trade union"

>>2290883
>Yes down with the Palestinian Authority in thier willingness to aid Israeli terror by using the forced labor of the Palestinian masses to aid thier rapists and terrorizors!
GO there and help overthrow those little bitches, won't ya? because there's nothing more evil than trading with the zios!


>>2290875
if china stopped trading with israel tomorrow (let's face it, not gonna happen) it wouldn't make a dent in israel's capacity to commit genocide because the USA literally sells hundreds of times more (386.5 times more in 2023) weapons to Israel than China does. So does India. If we're going to speak of the realm of what governments we have no control over "should" do then every government "should" stop doing everything bad, including capitalism, genocide, war, etc. right now. But we don't live in the world where governments do what they "should", even nominally "socialist" governments. Instead we live in a world where we have to build up our capacity to physically fight the reactionaries, and prioritize which ones we fight first in accordance to which ones have the most impact on the world stage. And right now, the most reactionary and imperialist government is the United States, and it provides the most overwhelming material support for the genocide Israel is committing. We ITT mostly live in the USA and our ability to fight the USA far outweighs our ability to fight China. If we were Chinese citizens living in China it would be easier for us to fight the Chinese government than the American government. But we're not (at least most of us aren't). Does that make sense?

>>2290789
Genuine opposition cannot be conjured out of thin air. It will be forged in actual conflict.

>>2290901
>We have to win over people who care about manly aesthetics but don't give a shit about the working class
retarded

God I wish Biden won the 2024 election. Not because I think he would demonstrate any real change, of course. I just wanted to see how brain-rotted he could get whilst still holding office.

>>2290901
Maybe but like it's probably even better to offer concrete proposals that improve people's lives.

>>2290926
he has prostate cancer so he'd probably have stepped down to let the VP govern by now if he had won 2024

thanks for the great lakes

>>2290901
>we need epic bacon cigar smoking andrew tate spike TV hustler magazine next to pistol and beer on the desk type of communism to appeal to the working class men who I totally understand based on the most reductive and retarded stereotypes of manhood cultivated by imperialist media

>>2290894
will american universities start admitting american proles if rich foreigners are precluded from attending

>>2290918
>China doing (x libshit thing) will be such a finger in the eye to American hegemony! They will show the world a true alternative path forward!
<how about stopping trade to Israel?
>don't speak such rot ultra!
Nice.

>>2290943
Try responding to what I actually said next time.

>>2290895
what's the point of the reddit logo?

Liam Cunningham and Comrade Greta Thunberg are going to work onboard the Freedom Flotilla Coalition which sets sail tomorrow from Italy and will attempt to break the Israeli blockade.
Keep in mind the last flotilla was hit by a drone strike and raided by the IDF.

>>2290945
It's a shoutout to Eglin Air Force Base

>>2290947
Israel is literally going to kill Greta Thunberg

>>2290944
I did, you said if China stopped trading with the Zionist Entity, it wouldn't mean much. I disagree, it would mean a lot and actually would be China standing up to American hegemony.

what's happening in the kamala timeline?

>>2290950
The line must be drawn HERE.
This far no further.

>>2290953
the exact same but with very angry armed trump supporters

>>2290947
RIP Greta I guess.

>>2290947
Based Davos Seaworth.

Will Greta be armed?

>>2290959
I don't think you can arm against a kamikaze drone anon.

china stopping trade with israel while still trading with america is standing up to… american hegemony?
doesn't this give credence to the conspiracy theory that israel holds the leash? this topic is getting dangerous, mods please mass delete everything right now

>>2290952
You don't even think China is socialist so why do you expect them to behave like socialists. I'm saying you shouldn't expect them to behave like something they aren't, and also that it wouldn't make much of an impact anyway because, again

>China sells 2 million dollars of weapons to Israel in 2023

>USA sells 773 million dollars of weapons to Israel in 2023
>India sells 125 million dollars of weapons to Israel in 2023
>773+125+2 = 900 million
>remove China from the equation and it's still 898 million dollars of weapons, less than a 1 percent impact.

Like actually read my post and realize what I'm saying: China shouldn't trade with Israel, but we don't live in a world where any government does what it "should". It's up to US to fight them, not tut-tut them for failing to conform to our morality. And in the US it is much easier for us to fight the US than it is for us to fight China. If you live in the USA and you want to fight China, then you may as well join the US military.

this was literally 4 weeks ago
I respect the grind

>>2290952
>>2290963
>It's up to US to fight them,
didn't mean to capitalize US here, meant "us" as in communists, not "us" as in the burger reich. very unfortunate. I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out what I mean here.


>>2290961
Israel is a much smaller and less powerful country than the US, the idea that it controls the US and not the reverse only makes sense if you think Jews have supernatural powers or something.

>>2290963
2 million less dollars to Israel is still 2 million less dollars towards Israel that would have been going towards child murder. And since it is so damn low, why, why in the flying fuck have it at all? This isn't to make ppl want to "fight" China, it about challenging the liberal revisionist rot within the heads of many of the contemporary left who do see China as some socialist country, even though it is not.
>>2290975
>blowing up civilian ships
Famous Israeli past time.

>>2290961
>no you see if you isolate an American proxy that still doesn't do anything and now you are pushing antisemitism because well just because!
Man, you really are a running dog of zionist brainrot are you?

poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids

>>2290978
>This isn't to make ppl want to "fight"
on the contrary it is imperative to fight anyone and everyone providing any support whatsoever to Israel, but we must not fight them equally, but according to strategy and tactics. You fight the people selling 773 million dollars of weapons to Israel before you fight the people selling 2 million dollars in weapons to Israel in the same way that you put out a big fire before you put out a small fire. If firefighters showed up to the scene of some fires and fought the small fires while allowing the big fire to grow, that would be foolish.

But here you are telling me you don't want to fight the fire at all, but merely challenge ideas people have about the fire. Very well then.

>>2290989
did you just wake up from a 5 year coma

>>2290986
>he doesn't filter sandi anon and glownonymous
are you a masochist?

>>2290918
Okay but capitalist China is trading more than 2 billion dollars worth of child murdering machines

>>2290986
you can't read
let me try in question form: how is not trading with the "american proxy" but still trading with america standing up to america?

>>2290918
So, overall I like China and hope they out maneuver the west but I agree with the other anon. What strategic advantage is there in giving Israel 2mil?

>>2291011
china gave israel 2 million?

>>2291011
trade is mutual exchange, nobody is giving anyone anything except for the americans

lets just pop a cap in bg and be done with it

>>2290299
Really uyhur??

>>2290299
If you think this you're a moron. Women are little more than objects in South Korea.
The extreme chuddette form of feminism that grew in South Korea is due to the fact that misogyny is engrained into the majority of young men due to how little future young south koreans have, and so any form of female liberation is considered a threat to the little they have.

>>2289900
Seems like everyone is just doing their part in accelerating the future

Lol

>>2291014
anon is referring to selling israel 2 million dollars of weapons in 2023 (compared to the USA's 773 million and India's 125 million). see >>2290758

>>2291014
* 2mil in weapons trade

>>2291015
What’s the point of having a state lead economy if you cant choose who to trade with? I’m just asking what the strategy is here. Surely they can find other people to buy 2mil in weapons.

>>2291005
>okay but let me ignore everything you just did and inflate the very economics statistics you provided in this post >>2290758 by 1000fold
no, china sold 2 million, not 2 billion in weapons to israel in 2023. america sold 773 million dollars in weapons to Israel in 2023. that's 386.5 times more. you need to have a sense of proportion and that requires numerical literacy. You put out the big fire before you put out the small fire. and if you're american you put out the fire in your own house before criticizing other nations in bad faith

>President Donald Trump argued that any revived nuclear accord with Iran should permit the United States to destroy the country’s nuclear infrastructure and send inspectors to Iranian facilities at any time.

>>2291035
The art of the deal everyone…

>>2291028
can you stop posting/reminding us that kahanist shithole?

>>2291034
Okay but China traded more than 2 billions worth of child murdering machines

gee I wonder if Iran will agree to a deal where America can blow up all its infrastructure

>>2291033
>burger doesn't understand the difference between trade and tithe
he thinks every country in the world serves zios by paying for their healthcare, military, tech, etc
el em ay oh

I want "whatabout china also trading with israel" anons, who obviously live in America, to explain what we can DO (not say, DO) to fight the genocide that is being committed by Israel, overwhelmingly with USA support (773 million dollars in 2023 sold) , and only very minor amounts sold by China.

Do you put out the big fire or the small fire first? do you fight your own government first, or do you fight the "enemy" and "near peer adversary" first?

Let's hear what Lenin says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-g3XnvB7Uw

>>2291038
you are numerically illiterate.

i lobe you lenin

>>2291043
No one is forcing you to white knight capitalist China which loves Zionism

you've made these posts for weeks now on several threads and nobodies fallen for it

>>2291044
Okay but Capitalist China is trading more than just 2 billion dollars worth of child murdering machines

>>2291046
ok how do i fight china. tell me how to fight china.

>>2291049
Why do you want to fight or shill a state desperately

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>>2291033
>What’s the point of having a state lead economy if you cant choose who to trade with? I’m just asking what the strategy is here. Surely they can find other people to buy 2mil in weapons.
>implying it was to enrich the zios
>not to steal their technology
>and sell it back to Palestinians.
>>2290883
don't forget to kill more than half of the population that elect those officials, who engage in trade with the zios, bloodlib.

https://www.elections.ps/Portals/0/2021localElections_finalReport.pdf

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I don't see China here.

>>2291042
If you can choose who you do trade with and you trade with the enemy just to appease them, it is essentially a tithe.
If that’s the strat, fine. It would make sense strategically and maybe it had to do with maintaining the trade relations with the U.S., albeit I question why due to the tariffs. Granted, it was 2023 and their policy may change. I just want someone to confirm all this for me.

>>2291052
>implying it was to enrich the zios
I didn’t imply this.
I said I didn’t know what the strategy was.

>>2291050
i want to oppose a genocide, and as an american living in the country that sells 386.5 times more weapons to israel than china (as well as giving them shit for free), i feel compelled to fight china first because clearly they're doing more to help the genocide.

>>2291033
I would speculate that the strategy is in keeping with the cpc's policy of ideology agnosticism and doing business with anyone willing to do business with them. In recent years China has become the primary trading partner for much of the world, and a significant factor in that has been the choice to not utilize this leverage to influence a country's internal politics, like the US has done. Reversing that policy even if it were to just be "the Israel exception" could be fundamentally detrimental to the trust that China has built up with it to this point because from then on it won't be "China's policy is noninterference" but "selective interference."

>>2291048
>if I repeat a lie enough times it becomes true

>>2291046
China isn’t capitalist

>>2290336
This just makes me more antisemitic

>>2291060
>>2291052
OK, these make more sense and add context.
Thanks.

>>2291056
your argument starts off with a false premise
>if you can choose
you can't choose, china trades with israel because of what they get back from it like tech transfers
you cannot CHOOSE to do X or not do X in a global economy unless you have significant leverage over it like america does, they can afford to, for example, cut off russia for the most part (and even then some trade between russia and america or the EU still happens)
your view of the world is childish, or in another word i prefer: retarded

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So THIS is the horrific extent of Chinese zionism…

>>2291046
>capitalist china
who is white knighting taiwan?

>>2291067
You’re being pedantic and know what I mean. They have more wiggle room than a liberalized economy that lets the U.S. walk all over it like certain ones in the global south.
> get back from it like tech transfers
You should have lead with this.

>>2290624
Hating Palestinians is the core of what it means to be Israeli, really makes you think.

>>2291009
You are right, China shouldn't trade with the USA either.

>>2291069
damn! Those numbers are genociding me, man! Chynah will kill me. hopefully those numbers kill the radlib of bloodlib first.

>>2291073
they have more wiggle room than states where the politicians are controlled by israel so instead of sending billions in tithe to the zios and countless soldiers as sacrifice they trade *scrolls up* 2 million worth of arms according to what was posted here before because they still need whatever they're getting in return

>>2291061
So capitalist China is only trading 2 billion dollars worth of weaponry with zionists and nothing else?

>>2291058
yeah, of course you didn't. maybe >>2291069 this will help you to put a final period to the debate.

>>2291073
Excuse me, but are you Xi Jiping? Are you a member of the Communist Party of China? How long have you lived in China and where? Are you an expert on trade and economics and believe you have something to offer that nobody else in the CPC can? Have you even read comrade Xi’s most recent address to the Communist Party? Have you ever applied the Mass Line either receiving or giving? Who is your local representative and did you vote for them?

notice how this anon hasn't mentioned whether it was exported or imported or how long the time frame was

>>2291076
i didn't ask for your opinion on whether they should trade with the US, i'm asking you to explain how not trading with israel while maintaining trade with america is standing up to the US

>>2291063
Another Dengoid cope
>>2291072
I'm guessing you? I don't know what Taiwan has to do with poor little China being FORCED by hard capitalist Zion cock to trade with child murderers

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Cuba is HALF ZIONIST

>>2291088
taiwan is capitalist china, PRC is the communist one
i think you're confused……

>>2291086
>the second largest economy ceasing all trade (not just weapons) with a genocidal American pariah state that many other countries also want to stop giving much "aid" to
>how will that stand up to American imperialism
You tell me retard.

>>2291088
So I’ll take it you have zero answers to any of those questions? Are you even Chinese? Oh, you aren’t? Then shut the fuck up.

>>2291089
Make it fully zionist

idealist nonsense
you're an anarchist just admit it

>>2291091
israel is american? can americans get aliyah to israel to go colonise palestinians or is that program just for the jewish americans?

>>2291090
China is capitalist China and Taiwan is capitalist Taiwan with the latter being a lapdog of the US. You seem very confused about multiple countries being capitalist. Did you know that India is also capitalist? Maybe BRICS broke your brain

>>2291096
>israel is american?
Unironically yes. They can only exist in thier current state due to US funding. If the world begins to isolate Israel, it's a step towards isolating America. Dengoids can't even keep up with thier own script smh.

>>2291066
No problem. I'm frustrated with China as well regarding this issue, and their decision to work with groups like the Myanmar junta or the Taliban, but the power they have and how they choose to use it will have serious implications for hundreds of millions of other people as well.

everyone is capitalist and everyone is zionist and everyones supporting genocide especially YOU country that gave Israel printer ink and shower curtains.

>>2291092
You haven't asked a question. Check who you're replying to

>>2291082
I said several posts ago that you are literally inflating 2 million dollars in weapons to 2 billion. that is a thousandfold increase. rather than reading and responding to what I said, you repeated yourself like a child, indicating that you didn't read.

>>2291089
didn't the dprk buy some israeli missile designs in the 90s?

>>2291099
>They can only exist in thier current state due to US funding.
which is why proponents of anti-americanism in israel are persecuted, jailed, deported or even killed
israel is also constantly bending over backwards to please america, for example here's the last time america used this relationship they have to israel's detriment and america's benefit: ____ (<- bloodgasm is supposed to write something here)

>>2291103
If you economically (or ideologically) support Zionists while having a capitalist system in place, then yes. You are a capitalist and a Zionist. Sorry to break it to you, dengsister.

so every country on earth is zionist

the immediate and most pressing task of the american marxist-leninist it to defeat their own imperialist government ,not to endlessly whine about how another government is selling 386.5 times fewer weaposn per annum to Israel

>>2291106
China is trading more than 2 billion dollars worth of child murder machines with zionists. Learn to read, Dengoid.


What you need to understand about Deng is that he pivoted from building socialism to first destroying American imperialism by pretty much using capitalism against the global bourgeoisie (as schizophrenic as it sounds) and its working. Global socialism was never going to succeed in a liberal world spearheaded by USA, get rid of those suckers and history can move.

>>2291102
are there any other groups you dislike china working with that don't share a border with them?

>>2291081
> they have more wiggle room than states where the politicians are controlled by israel
That’s all I was getting at, yes. If they are receiving something they need via trade that only Israel can provide, then I concede it’s not a tithe.
>>2291084
> Excuse me, but are you Xi Jiping?
Yes, I’m visiting this thread because I appreciate American culture, love McDonalds, and occasionally play a pick-up game wearing my Michael Air Jordans.

>>2291110
the kurds are zionist for trading with israel

>>2291114
Okay thanks for admitting that you love Chinese capitalism so much

>>2291113
Dengism has worked but only with a tremendous cost. The corruption with the party in the 80's exceeded even Gorbys reforms. The only difference is Gorby also liberalised the country, allowing dissent, Deng didn't.
At least Xi represents the left (centre) of the party and has done his best to tackle that corruption and building the strength of SOEs.

>>2290941
Doubtful, but I like seeing Ivy League and gusanos get fucked.

>>2291102
thanks for being reasonable. A lot of what happens in China is a blindspot for me and I appreciate when people provide clarification.

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>>2291110
everyone is sus.

>>2291119
Dengism is capitalism by the way

>>2291112
i already provided trade statistics from 2023 that showed that, in that year, China sold 2 million, million with an M, not billion with a B, as you state, to Israel, which is 386.5 times fewer weapons than the United States. You then inflated that statistic 1000fold and keep repeating the lie and not responding to anything I say. It is apparent that you are not reading what I'm saying and are just acting liek a child. I am not saying this for your benefit, but for the benefit of those reading who may need to be reminded what what the context of the conversation is, especially if they came into the thread late.

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>>2291112
Everyone in the middle east should die.

>>2291123
So was the NEP. It is State Capitalism. You're not intelligent for pointing it out.

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>>2291118
>>2291123
>NOOOOOOOO STOP DOING THINGS THAT ACTUALLY WORK, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOSE BUT HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND SO WE CAN BE LIKE JESUS

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>>2291124
You truly can't read ( like a dengoids) but I will repeat again. Capitalist China is trading more than 2 billion dollars worth of child murder machines with zionists they love so much.

>>2291113
Welcome back Bakunin

>>2291063
people's wage labor, people's billionaires, people's commodity production, people's capitalist socialism

>>2291129
he said the DPRK traded once with Israel so ackchually its zionist
>le ultras actually believe this (they have no understanding of the material world)

>>2291129
>b-b-but hold on, we can't support literal monarchies!

>>2291130
Provide proof of your claim. I am convinced you misread "2 million" as "2 billion" earlier ITT and have been repeating it ever since.

>>2291132
what are you going to do about america while living in america under the american government? bitch about dengoid china not being socialist until you die in an ICE camp after being falsely detained as an illegal immigrant?

From Lenins "The Tax In Kind":

"Firstly, we must examine the nature of the transition from capitalism to socialism that gives us the right and the grounds to call our country a Socialist Republic of Soviets…

But what does the word “transition” mean? Does it not mean, as applied to an economy, that the present system contains elements, particles, fragments of both capitalism and socialism? Everyone will admit that it does. But not all who admit this take the trouble to consider what elements actually constitute the various socio-economic structures that exist in Russia at the present time. And this is the crux of the question.

Let us enumerate these elements:

(1) patriarchal, i.e., to a considerable extent natural, peasant farming;

(2) small commodity production (this includes the majority of those peasants who sell their grain);

(3) private capitalism;

(4) state capitalism;

(5) socialism.

>>2291126
Then stop calling it socialism or communism if what you really love and would die for is state capitalism, dengsister.
>>2291128
True. China is doing what it loves most. Capitalism and being friends with zionists.

>>2291137
These people have never read Lenin's Tax in Kind. Hell, they don't even abide by revolutionary defeatism

>>2291138
>communism is when you are socialist from start to finish and never have a transitionary stage toward socialism
no anon

>>2291135
I'm not going to do anything but tell you to learn how to read. I also can't do anything about your hallucinations and wishes

>>2291138
Ok but what are you going to do about the country you live in which is selling Israel ~386.5 times more weapons per annum than China?

>>2291141
>It's actually socialism but it's hidden inside capitalism that is going to sprout any minute now by a magic force, very materialist

Chinas desire to build socialism is real, the question is whether it can be done without purges. The NEP resulted in the kulak issue.

>>2291142
>I don't have to provide proof of my claim
I already provided proof earlier ITT that your claim is wrong. >>2290758
But you don't have to prove the contrary claim that inflates the statistic I provided by 1000fold? Stop wasting everyone's time repeating big and easily debunked lies.

>>2291144
You need to read Marx.

>>2291143
Easy, we create a socialist country that will 100% be weak due to international sabotage, then we lose and get our country pillaged, making the US empire much stronger again, but then we have the moral highground (like Jesus) so we actually won.

>>2291143
I'm gonna shill capitalism like my greatest heroes on leftypol

>>2291146
That's great but China trades more than 2 billion dollars worth of child murder machines with zionists


oh I see its 2 billion now it was a million before

>>2291147
I read Marx and he said
>I love Chinese capitalism and I need Germany to be the one of Israel's greatest and most loyal trading partners

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>>2291130
Death to islamic uyghurs, death to islamic uyghurs of the east, death to judaistians, death to pagans, all non-atheists die, all non-materialists die. Here is a message, from Xi Jinping, Comrade units survive, Street committees survive, Kill the Religgers - our father, Kill the Religgers - young man, Communist party - victory, Communist party - victory, Xi Jinping - our father, Life in China.

he's getting feisty now

>>2291152
You can just reply directly instead of being afraid of me, dengsister.

>>2290624
I read this in nick mullens jewish voice

>>2290947
> Comrade Greta Thunberg
Good thing she got arrested just in time not to be on the attempt that got bombed. But yeah, This sort of thing is just par for the course in the EU washing of hands. The media has given the signal that it's okay to blame Netanyahu and minorly Israel for the months of open genocide because there is nothing that can be done anymore.

there is no outcome that doesn't result in the complete victory of Zionism, even if they hanged Netayahu tomorrow at dawn and the ICJ found the balls to formally establish the crime of genocide.

In fact, it is very likely that the EU will plant themselves a big fucking medal for recognizing some abstract version of a state of Palestine after they are done genociding Gaza. And you think you wont let it go. you wo't forget the depraved media people and politicians. You will hound the Zionists forever with the memory of what they have done. But that is just the natural reaction to your mind telling you the opposite. you know how it has gone every other time and you wish really hard that this time would be different. It won't.

The moment they sign teir new version of Oslo or w/e a few months will pass and it willb e just another historical anecdote nobody has time for. It scarcely even affects the current cycle of liberal elections, much less in four years. Zionism has been put to the ultimate test, the realization in the open of their ethnic cleansing aspirations, and it has come out victorious. It doesn't matter if the West Bank is left in the hands of more PR minded liberal Zios. The bar has been set, the resistance has been shattered. And Iran is next.

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the western left could be saved if you all just read this book, but i know it will not happen :'(

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>>2291154
You have saved Chinese socialism which is actually hidden socialism with state capitalist characteristics from non-materialists my comrade. Now Xi, the greatest dengist thinker of all time, can get more of that delicious Zionist hummus into his country which wouldn't survive without regular shekkels flowing into his crumbling system

>>2291159
The one that got bombed resulted in 0 deaths, luckily.

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>>2291160
the western left could be saved by being less christian pilled but the obsession with martyrdom and purity is legit unconscious at this point, nobody wants actual real results.

>>2291162
All religious people are subhumans actually, China does its best to fund all of their sides so they should kill each other and leave the planet to one of the few societies which isn't mentally ill.

bait post

>>2291150
Is anyone else seeing this shit? This fucker thinks if he repeats a lie enough times it becomes true. You have massive faith in illiteracy.

>>2291161
ummmm out of context umm umm umm uh because uh uh umm

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look anon he's talking about you

>>2290507
Irrelevant. Where are they now?

>>2291160
there's even a free audiobook

>>2291167
Okay cool but Capitalist China trades more than just 2 billion dollars worth of child killing machines with zionists and you don't seem able to understand what is being said here. Did you finally get courage to respond to me again instead of just hoping I will stop

>>2291175
Actually it's 2 trillion you fucking red fascist.

>>2291169
Hey where is the USSR right now by the way?

>>2291175
you inflated the statistic I myself posted 1000fold and just keep repeating that.

>>2291177
in my heart

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>>2291169
but but but moralism

>>2291176
I will make it 40 trillion as long as it protects my beloved Chinese capitalism.
>>2291178
Reading is hard for you dengoids, I know.

>reading is hard for you dengoids
yet you've never read marx, engels or lenin, curious


>>2291175
look, i'm not taiwan's biggest fan but even i think accusing them of trading 2 billion dollars worth of weapons to israel is a bit far-fetched, they don't have that kind of money

>>2291179
That's called: Materialism with Chinese characteristics

>>2291183
I have actually provided economic statistics in a previous post. you inflated them 1000fold, don't respond to anything I say, and repeat lies over and over. this is childish. I explicitly stated that China "shouldn't" sell weapons to Israel but it's worthless for burgers to moralize about it from across the ocean while failing to oppose their own government.

>>2291183
>Reading is hard for you dengoids, I know.
It is hard and yet we do it. I recommend reading Key Papers on Chinese Economic History up to 1949 (the 2 vols) 686 pages, followed by Xi's The Governance of China (4 vols) which totals around 2632 pages, followed by the entirety of Moby Dick.

>>2291188
Keep proving you can't read, dengister or do it like you retarded resistance axis lib friend and bring up Taiwan randomly to every conversation

>>2291190
We basically have all of the world's literature and have read everything and our opponents only read anarchist zines.

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>>2291190
>It is hard
Maybe for dengoids lol

he can't even form sentences properly

>>2291195
It is hard to read trillions of pages, maybe if you didn't pretend to read you would know that.

>>2291197
No it really isn't hard to read a few books, dengoid. It is actually quite easy when you're able to read.

>>2291196
Again. You really don't have to be afraid to answer directly to me.

>muh moby dick
the state of this ultra

>>2291154
>mp4
this is the kind of false flag meme a CIA agent would make to in order to cause communists to appear unhinged, childish, and sadistic

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>>2291200
Smallest book defending China (pic1) vs biggest naxal text ever made (pic2)
>>2291200
Yes it is easy when you read leaflets, we read massive literature that has trillions of pages and is super analytical.

>>2291191
anyone else seeing this? am i the only person baffled by this guy's childish ability to just repeat the same shit over and over again in the hopes that it hypnotizes people into believing it?

>>2291205
its fun to feed trolls

>>2291204
>Being so insecure in being shit at reading books you're doing page to dick size contests
Dengist material analysis of this?

California Governor elections soon. They're doing rallies now.

>>2291207
Yes the more text (contents and footnotes) the more justified and truer it is.

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turning point still exists?

>>2291203
The CIA must be dickriding China because that shit looks cool asf and its okay for China to be misanthropic because the rest of the world civilization is backwards.

>>2291210
True. Marx famously said this when he talked about religious faith in governments being critically important to any dengist thinker

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>>2291211
Yea lol

>>2291214
No I don't think dengists and china is doing enough to liquidate religious people off the planet but it doesn't hurt to hope, worst case scenario everybody dies but that's like any way it goes

fascist country

THIS IS WHAT STALIN DREAMED ABOUT BUT NEVER ACHIEVED

>>2291216
They're taking things too slow because of calculations and thinkers doing all the big deals and being so cautious its not like jdpon bruh

new thread, oldfriends >>2291219

>>2291215
>YARDing
cool

>>2291217
what does this new cool word mean? Is it like LARPing?

>>2290909
There are Palestinian resistance fighting PA forces pretty much everyday. What point did you think you were making w/ this?


>>2290624
Am I an idealist because I thought there was going to be some sort of self-realization at the end, and not some racist drivel?

>>2290720
Yeah but libs have tried to put xi in a "craaazy dictator" mold a la saddam even before the genocide hoax.

I think it's basically just racism imo. Same type of racism as the "craaazy middle eastern dictator with ak-47" stereotype.


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