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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Last night the Czech Parliament voted to legally equate Communism and Naziism and thus move it towards being a banned ideology. It needs approval in both the senate and to be signed by the president.

https://www.forum24.cz/komunismus-stejne-jako-nacismus-snemovna-schvalila-navrh-na-zakaz-propagace-komunismu
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>>2292683
Also, for example, Ho Shi Min wouldn't have became Ho Shi Min if he hadn't studied in France.

>>2292683
>far right talking point but with "it's a good thing" spin

>>2292683
>u see, we'd use the colonialism to beat the colonialism
<turn europe into a reactionary crapsack like what the US did with the middle east
the absolute state of trots

>>2292683
majority of those migrants are due to imperialism in the first place ya fucking retard. some "reperations", oh boy my country is ravaged by extractive industries if not outright proxy war, this is great because now i can leave my home and go to france if im not sold into slavery in libya on the way there

>inb4 a caste of opportunistic brain drain migrants somehow contradicts this overall tendency

>>2292683
common Trot L

>>2292672

On your first point, don't get me wrong, I was being facetious. I don't hold much hope at all for socialism in Europe; Its mostly a cesspool of reactoids & liberals of various flavours.



As to your second point.

The production and reproduction of human life is my foundational ethical concern. The USSR surviving certainly the death rate from exploding and the birth from collapsing in the 90s (especially if it avoids the kosygin reforms). Ironically or not, in practice this means a lot of people alive today simply need to be killed.

And yes I do indeed sympathize with the DPRK; Though I worry to what extent its economy is kosygin-libermanized, on the whole it is the least degenerate of the remaining officially declared socialist countries.

And yes this does express itself socio-culturally: Lgbt doesn't exist there conceptually for the majority, so its both impossible to be a faggot hating obsessed reactoid and a sex obsessed parade consuming liberal pervert.

>>2292701

*certainly prevents
*especially if earlier it avoids the kosygin reforms, which being totalitarian (ie. moving towards planned economy & society) would imly

>>2292227
when you've given up on revolution and just want ebin bebenge

>>2292721

A socialist revolution of sufficient scale worldwide logically implies the destruction of western civilization (since its very basis the individual, private property, etc.)

Even materially: I often say to my comrades in West Africa if a substantial portion of the continent was united under socialist government this would seriously hamper western economies in the medium/long run, because they would their financial, technological, skill based & natural resource oligopolistic rents.

>>2292737
No it means the destruction of western imperialism and capitalism and all forms of exploitation, not your dogmatic ultra cultural war view.

>>2292743

>it means the destruction of western imperialism and capitalism […]


Ie. The destruction of the material basis of western civilization, which leads to…

The destruction of western civilization. ✅

>>2292747
Then what you are referring to is not "western civilisation" but western imperialism. And by extension all capitalist societies. Capitalism rots away culture, neoliberalism especially has rotted away the proletarian attributes of culture.

>>2292753

Is it really just a mere semantic disagreement though?

Where did capitalism & liberalism originate? What is the ideological superstructure and material basis of western civilization?

Its quite obvious I am not referring to cultural things; Blue cheese, opera, odin worship, etc. are not the target when I use the term "western civilization"

Hot take: The actual Western civilisation is Middle East/Mediaterran/Balkans (as opposed to Eastern civilisation centered in China and Central civilisation centered in Indus alley). Europe is just an overgrown scavenger that eventually turned into a parasite.

>>2292776

Interesting thesis for a Trot.

Call it what you want. "Occidental civilization" or whatever.

>>2292771
This is all true but you have stated that the Europeans deserve mass devastation due to the nature of the system they live under. Now, European economic collapse is inevitable due to the conditions of capitalism, but their reactionary thought will collapse when these capitalism inevitably devours itself.

>>2292624
i never said it was explictly anticommunist. it's just extremely capitalist and bourgeois.

>>2291833
GANG GANG

>>2292785
W H I T E J U C H E

>>2292784
oh, thats true. but im coming from the US which is far worse in that regard in every way.

The elections in Poland seem to be going in the direction of the far-right. Polish communists are next on the menu.

>>2292737
>I AGREE WITH GVNTHER FEHLINGER!!! DESTROY ALL WESTOID PUBLIC TRANSIT NOW
<sounds like you just want revenge
>umm no actually western civilization is individualistic and upholds private property, this is is why I want the remaining public transit privatized
?????

>>2292783

Eh… maybe this is a "liquidation of the kulaks" kind of phrasing issue.

End of the day, people who live in Europe will be devastated when western civilization is destroyed, even if not a single one of them dies as a result, because they will no longer be who they were, fundamentally.

That said I do thing the reactionary mentality will remain for a little while after. There is usually a lag in changes in consciousness.

>>2292815
was this no different to imperial russia in the early days of the revolution? the popular masses will achieve class consciousness, those who retain reactionary politics will either fizzle out, become educated or be cast out.

>>2292809

It accelerated their decline & thus weakens them geopolitically, yes. Plus its what they themselves believe is ideal at the highest levels, at least in theory.

Why not use it to our benefit in whatever modest ways we can?

>>2292819

Could be. Just don't expect anything instantaneous.

Also: beware the reemergence of petty bourg. views in new forms.

>>2292824
Whose "we"? Stop being an accelerationist.

>>2292828

I mean the global communist movement, generally speaking.

And what exactly is the problem with the strategy of taking advantage of "acceleration" (ie. decline/decadence/degeneration). Trying to stop it, particularly in the imperial core, is a phantasmagorically monumental opportunity cost.

>>2292834
Because socialism is not when we make the proletariat worse off

>>2292737
>western civilization (since its very basis the individual, private property, etc.)
PragerU moment

western civilization is when john adams

>>2292836

Didn't say it was. Non-sequitur.

Look, its really this simple: If as a hypothetical, the bourgeoisie, petty bourg. & labour aristocrats decide to legalize heroin, we should to sell it to them, full stop.

Revolutionary organizations need funding, and it cost less than 75$ usd a month to fund the full time wages of a shop floor African worker.

>>2292848

*That's less than 75 usd to have a full time cadre working for a party or related mass organization.

>>2292542
so the same thing basically has been going on across the Slav world, that promoted nazism, disguising it with the ban of communism.

>>2292593
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>>2292672

and quoting everyone who engages with that moron:
>>2292701
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>>2292629
>>2292640

ignore, don't engage.



today, I have to remind once again:

>>2291812
Why is it called a coup when it was in self defense??

>>2291816
Or maybe in a present context where fascism is everywhere, "everything" being called fascism (note: this doesn't actually happen) is warranted.

>>2292588
It's "rationalising" nazis, it's hiding that they were nazis. Also, apologizing in the context means to argue in favour directly or indirectly. You don't know what apologia is, nor what rationalizing means, you have no coherent thoughts about anything.

>>2292986
seethe, i miss him and he's better than many retards, yourself included

>>2291832
This ^ Western communists should stop being impotent moralists and start robbing banks again.

>>2292018
>I have not once seen some sensible celbration of the Czech national culture.
Wrong! They have this annual celebration, where they let drunk pedos beat the shit out of young girls.
Very normal country.

>>2293459
seething? no sweetie, I am waiting for the like of you and him to again say that the CIA is da jooz for the ML in the context of CIA evidence meddling in the ukr nazism formation, through operation aerodynamic so I can laugh at (You) when you get banned.
because that's what you get for being a radlib.

>czech gang bang

>>2293488
maybe engels had a point

I hate czechs so much it's unreal

>>2293484
>This ^ Western communists should stop being impotent moralists and start robbing banks again.
Ok, I agree. But you first.

>>2291787
I mean, I know this isnt a good or productive thing to think, but sometimes I feel like people deserve their fate.

>>2293488
Not gonna watch the breadtube-tier crap you posted, lol

I don't know where are you taking the bullshit about pedos. Because the target population of this Easter Whip tradition are kids/youngsters. Young boys are visiting girls to whip them, so they stay forever young or some shit. (It has some pagan roots, I suppose) And after that they receive some treats. (often colored boiled eggs). The "whipping" is not supposed to be painful or humiliating but of course, it depends on a person doing it.

There is another custom, that is often completely omitted noawadays - after noon it's girls' turn - and they on their part are supposed to pour cold water over men so they stay strong.

It's true, however, that grown up men often also participate in the whipping, which often results in a cringe shitshow. (Considering that a grown up man often doesn't receive sweets or eggs as a treat but a shot of some hard liquor.)

Personally, I've never participated in this even as a kid, because a) the only thing I care about easter are the holidays, I am an atheist, b) I hate the boiled eggs, they stink like shit, c) I am a sort of antisocial fuck, so these kind of traditions make me cringe

>>2293488
fam, ngl, that video seems the anecdote of a person that appeals to emotions, rather to reality.
I'd rather hear a panel of experts showing concrete evidence of this being a torture that degrades women rather just some lib that posts content of how horrible their motherland is in a plain English to bamboozle libs in the west.

>>2293488
Oh look, a self-colonizing liberal branding her own culture as evil based anecdotal experiences and by applying modern views of relations between genders on a several centuries old tradition.

The event exists in every V4 country with several variations. Sticks might be made of different, lighter material (Poland) or not be there at all and only the dousing women with cold water part exists (Slovakia, Hungary). Or both parts exist, but it's the men who are to be doused with in retaliation spanking (seems to be a Czech regional variation). And obviously it isn't required for women to be hurt. Even if that does happen a lot of the time. But why can't the tradition be reformed? Why does it have to banished entirely? Considering that at least here in Hungary a much more sanitized version has already appeared several generations ago where in the coreography of
>man approaches the woman with a poem
>man douses the woman with water
>woman gives the man painted eggs as a reward
cold water has already been replaced with parfume. This shouldn't a surprise when communism has already achieved almost everything in terms of women's rights by integrating women into the workforce, so if it was really nothing but abuse, then why did women let it continue to this day?

If you think about what event could've meant a century ago, it's obvious that this was nothing more than a matchmaking event. It takes places on Easter Monday. People already went to church on Sunday, but they still have one church-issued holiday before everyone goes back to work. This is when people from a cluster of villages met up in one place and tried to look for a partner. That's really it.

Personally I've only practiced the sanitized version, and even that one was mostly forced on me by parents. The practice slowly dwindled as the years went on which came as a relief because I didn't want to visit female classmates for any reason whatsoever. Note that I come from an urban area this might be different in more rural areas.


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