What's happening now
• Iran retaliation underway: Iran has launched more than 100 drones toward Israeli territory, Israel’s military said. The attack comes after Israel launched unprecedented strikes on Iran, targeting its nuclear program and senior military leaders in an attack that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said will last many days. The attack plunges the Middle East into fresh uncertainty, increasing the risk of a regional war.
• Military leaders killed: General Hossein Salami, the commander-in-chief of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard, was killed in the attack. He was among the country’s most powerful figures. The attack also killed Major General Mohammad Bagheri, Iran’s highest-ranking military officer.
• Nuclear targets: Netanyahu said “Operation Rising Lion” struck Iran’s main enrichment facility in Natanz, nuclear scientists, and what he called “the heart of Iran’s ballistic missiles program.”
• US position: Secretary of State Marco Rubio said there was no US involvement or assistance in the strikes. President Donald Trump was convening a Cabinet-level meeting as Israel attacked, a White House official and two sources told CNN. The meeting was expected to focus on the US response.
NOSTRADAMUS PREDICTED WWIII WITH IRAN:
https://youtu.be/8GR1qSMD9Wc?si=Z_snEcAN6KQPrAXB&t=4380ALSO PREDICTED RUSSIA WOULD ALLY WITH IRAN AGAINST THE WEST, AND MUSLIM DIASPORA POPULATIONS IN THE WEST WOULD BE ON RUSSIA-IRAN'S SIDE.
>>2318117>>2318121Turkey is
right there.
>>2318110MAGAcom is literally glowies. It'll be framed as "trust the plan" or woke pro-transhumanist Iran sabotaging Trump's Le BASED multipolarista patsoc agenda by not getting on their knees and spreading their ass cheeks
>>2318113>There are several people in leadership that will not be coming back<hehe I fooled ya, pretended we were negotiating in good faith, but it was all a ruse to get you to lower your guard and kill some of your most senior leaders, also you're still going to have to negotiate (read:capitulate) on everything I want :)<also we weren't involved, but if you try anything we will destroy you :)I loathe this repulsive orange fuck
>>2318160https://reason.com/2025/06/04/schumer-attacks-trump-for-repeating-obamas-iran-diplomacy/democrat leadership is more imperialist. their line is no deals
|>"When it comes to negotiating with the terrorist government of Iran, Trump's all over the lot. One day he sounds tough, the next day he's backing off," Schumer said in a video message posted to X on Monday night. He accused Secretary of State Marco Rubio and U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff of negotiating "a secret side deal" that "lets Iran get away with everything" and claimed that "TACO Trump"—an acronym for "Trump Always Chickens Out"—is "already folding."
>>2318160Nah they're too busy condemning ICE protestors for being violent, trying to reach across the aisle, and writing "strong worded" letters whenever the Trump admin does something undeniably fash and disgusting.
The only thing that matters to congress dems except maybe Maxime Waters/AOC/Squad/Bernie is ensuring endless subsidies to the MIC, Israel, Ukraine and techbro oligarchs, and making sure nothing gets done when it comes to protecting or expanding social security or the minimum wage.
>>2318160I just saw parts of the democrat debate for the mayor of new york city and they won't shut the fuck about how Zohran isn't pro-Israel.
Democrats will sacrifice every single part of the USA for Israel.
>>2318183Implying this escalation isn't desirable for those in Moscow
>possible $130 oilIs a lot worse for Beijing.
>>2318216Dorrito's detected over norhern Syria. No hits yet. Suspected to be the first wave.
Bibi also seems to have fucked off and is on a plane with fighter escort.
>>2318268uhm swety, you just did a:
>1. religious chauvinism>2. nationalism>3. anti-zionism (labor zionism is AES)>4. liberal legalism>5. molochphobia>6. blood libel>7. appeal to nature>8. using heckin' proletarian civilians as human shieldsthat means i will shill for israel and against your country for the rest of this war on /leftypol/
>>2318296?????????
it is true. How is that anti-semitic to say? They constantly killing babies with no care at all
>>2318296they history of attacking and making a trillion reasons every nation around.
reality is anti-zionist and anti-israel, and if that is antisemitic then reality is antisemitic.
>>2318289??? You speaking French?
Shut the fuck up over there.
>>2318295The communists of the world from violent militants to passive bireaucrats who gave ceeded power to retarded and incompetent theocrats and pinochets because they didnt have the balls to cross the rubycon.
Now their people get raped by a, not even that strong, jewish country because conservative plutocrats and theocrats cant fight for shit in the real world as Attaturk and Robespierre showed.
It saddens me.
>>2318316?
The 40~% that voted for NSDAP have not been culled, the change was partial, at best.
>>2318317only because it didn't happen on the entire country, and the USSR fell and the region was dementized again, terror against the fascists need to be permanent.
>>2318320IDF babies, nothing wrong done there.
>>2318304Zionist Jews were so sick of being falsely accused of crimes they decided to actually commit the crimes making the accusation true. Great idea.
>>2318326Jewish people should have helped build multicultural societies that treated people equally but instead they decided to become murderous ethno-nationalists. Just like the Nazis.
>>2318315People see the Caitlyn Jenner Gay Surrogacy Thiel Foundation country demolishing the axis of resistance and the based ummah without effort while doing a genocide bronze age style and i'm supposed to think conservative plutocrats and mullah are the way to run a country over secular social-libertarian society.
Right-Wingers are useless, they cant fight they cant run a country surrounded by hostile elements. Even the awful genocide in gaza is carried by the secular israeli army that's more progressive than the median israeli citizen man.
>>2318325/pol/.
Are you going to behave yourself?
>>2318354It's because right-wingers, like Iranian regime, are cowards.
The only non-coward RWer are that way when forced to live in primitive gigapoor conditions like Houthis. Otherwise they are custard people. Brittle.
>>2318242Iran is not an ideological partner. Why do you r-tards think that China has a dog in the Israel fight. Or with Iran?
China is managing fine. It has its own issues. Let's turn it around: Why would Iran be at all interested in Chinese conflicts with Japan or the Phillipines?
>>2318361>when forced to live in primitive gigapoor conditions like HouthisThats anyone who is poor, starving, and has nothing left to lose (see Palestine).
Governments like Iran wont have the balls to attack Israel because they're afraid of losing power, even when theyre clearly losing all of it slowly.
Fuck's sake
>>2318260funny but sad
>>2318362utterly unprincipled grifter
also
>>>/isg/ >>2318390This is more condemning of Putin and Xi than it is of Hinkle
Though I despise Hinkle and his opportunism
>>2318413Here’s the sad truth
All the current governments around the world including Israel, Iran, the US, China, Russia tolerate or even like the current state of affairs
They want to deal with the devil they know rather than the potentials they fear
>>2318421All the current governments? No
One small country on the arabian peninsula is still resisting
>>2318418It's kinda crazy the whole military side of the Axis of Resistance collapsed in not even one year, im not even sure Iran would manage to fight against an Isreali-US bombing campaign seeing how Mossad have infiltrated the country. Im also wary of Azeri secession and Azerbadjan, Armenia will not see 2030 if Iran fall.
We shouldn't underestimate the hatred the youngest population toward the iranian clergy: if Isreal manage to destroy two or three oil refineries and living conditions continue to worsen, those peoples wont suddenly support the regime, they will support a coup either by a nationalist or a Jolani/Sharaa-like western puppet.
>>2318426>Axis of Resistance Glowie term, a collection of regional powers exhibiting neutrality towards each other while each are in conflict with the west is not an Axis. The collective west are not fighting a collective east. In each individual conflict you have the collective, nuclear armed west attacking an individual nation while yelping about opposing an alliance of equal capabilities and force. Implications therefore are that retaliation by Iran is retaliation also from Russia, China, Pakistan, North Korea, etc and thus no choice but to
launch the nukes! but only on Iran.
>>2318439great axis of resistance lmao
bourgeois regimes are so incompetent istg
>>2318471I didn't care to polish it, as it were.
I don't much care if you follow
I dunno what are you having trouble with?
>>2318492If we lived in the rightoid fantasy, yes
Sadly we don't.
>>2318486>95% of nations in the middle-east are religious nationalistthat's because the imperialists systematically overthrew or killed the socialists and social democrats that sought any kind of proletarian or democratic appeal, because that would mean nationalizing the oil and redistributing the land and wealth. it might also mean some kind of regional unity which is the last thing they want. at the same time they empowered religious nuts and nurutured those movements because they would be anti-communist, sectarian dividers, and all-around fuckups.
You can't have socialism, you can't have democracy. what you can have is our selected quisling dictator, and the only remaining alternative to him is the religious nuts. You wind up with a region run by various quisling dictators and religious nationalists.
this is a systematic project they've been doing for decades, and we see the result.
>>2318499most capitalist countries can't. the hegemon can, and some of its former-colonial vassals help out. from post WW2 up to today the US has been able to do a lot that most don't and can't. and controlling and shaping the middle east has been a very important project that whole time.
China has been focused on domestic development and international trade and partnerships where possible. it doesn't focus on imperialism and downpressing the world. it has only begun to have some degree of global influence and soft power recently.
>>2318486>95% of nations in the middle-east are religious nationalist nationsActually most of them were secular until relatively recently. I wonder what happened to all the secular governments and political movements in close proximity to Israel???
>Why do you guys have so much higher expectations Ah yes, the unreasonably high expectations of not doing apartheid, genocide, or constantly attacking their neighbours. Zionists to the wall.
>➡️ Some observations.
1. By allowing foreigners from the IAEA to your facilities, you essentially give them the opportunity to collect information for subsequent strikes against them. The IAEA (as well as the OPCW) in its current form is an instrument of the West. By the way, this also concerns Russia. The Koreans did not let anyone in, did not negotiate with anyone about their nuclear reactors, and are quietly sitting on a pile of nuclear warheads and ICBMs. 2. By placing nuclear physicists outside of protected shelters, you make them an easy target for strikes. In light of the threat of war, they should have been moved to protected shelters first of all. There are many questions about Iran's counterintelligence, however, they were there before. 3. In the modern world, the renunciation of nuclear weapons and their delivery systems is downright suicide for a country that claims to be a subject. Readiness to use them should also be part of a gentleman's set. Without weapons and the determination to use them, you are effectively unprotected from external attack. Paper treaties and so-called "international law" are a fig leaf with which the weak try to cover up their impotence before predators who simply ignore them before devouring them.
Reminder that North Korea kicking out westoid inspectors, and making nukes was probably the smartest geopolitical decision of this century.
>>2318490Word salad with zero material content.
>>2318488>Israel is bad so I'm gonna ignore the crimes of the remaining 40 other countries in the region and NEVER EVER criticize them. Criticizing Islamic countries is LITERALLY genociding them!!! Also I'm a communist and far-right Islamism is totally beneficial to my cause somehow.
>>2318496>Muslims have no agency whatsoever its the evil imperialists controlling them and making them do bad things like genociding minorities and oppressing women :(((Do you really expect anyone outside of leftist echochambers to believe this?
>>2318536>Is common knowledge people hate the theocracy bullshit and are secular libsthat does not make them "pro western", nobody in their right mind would support the west that provides weapons that strikes you
if anything, by striking Iran unprovoked, you will simply turn the desire for reform into a united front against Israel.
>>2318512>Ah yes, the unreasonably high expectations of not doing apartheid, genocide, or constantly attacking their neighbours. Zionists to the wall.If we consider that all human lives are equal (a shocking assumption that leftoids don't agree with in practice), then the number of people (women, minorities) suffering from oppression in Islamic countries far exceeds the number of people that Israel is oppressing. Even Muslims of the majority faith and ethnicity also suffer because religious nationalist govts arent nice to their own people as well.
And yet those minorities don't get even 5% of the sympathy from the left (I'm not talking about liberals, Im talking about the modern leftoids), and the govts and people responsible for that oppression don't even get 5% of the criticism from the left, compared to Israel.
>Actually most of them were secular until relatively recently. I wonder what happened to all the secular governments and political movements in close proximity to Israel???Ah yes once again the "Muslims have no agency they were forced to become like this". And yet somehow you never hear a peep from Muslims or leftists criticisiing this behavior that they are allegedly being forced to adopt due to outside forces.
Please stop, literally no one falls for this bullshit rhetoric. Try saying this in a non-leftoid space and see the reaction.
>>2318564so literally millions must die chudjak.png
yeah no
Israel’s daytime air strikes point to significant military advantage over Iran
Israel’s daytime airstrikes on Iran show they are operating with little concern for Iranian air defences, pointing to a major shift in power between the foes, an analyst says.
Imad El-Anis, an international relations expert on the Middle East and North Africa at Nottingham Trent University, said it was notable that Israel was carrying out strikes during the day, calling it “unprecedented”.
“This suggests they enjoy complete freedom of movement in the skies and are operating with little to no concern about Iranian air defences,” he said.
“Such confidence points to a major shift in the balance of power between the two countries, and Israel seems to be seizing a strategically opportune moment to act.”
El-Anis said Iran’s ability to respond appeared limited. “Compared to previous years, its capabilities appear to be seriously degraded,” he said.
He said it was clear that Israel was not pursuing “a quick, limited operation”, but one that could last for weeks, and involve hundreds of targets. “That is deeply concerning, as it indicates a sustained, wide-reaching effort rather than a narrow, targeted strike.”
He said Israel was likely to aim to destroy or disable Iran’s nuclear facilities, many of which were “buried dozens of meters underground in hardened and well-protected locations”.
“But equally significant is Israel’s focus on targeting personnel. The intelligence they possess on key individuals will be of serious concern to Iran,” he said.
“Despite the intensity of the operation, this is not about pursuing regime change. Israel’s objective appears to be tightly focused on degrading Iran’s nuclear capabilities and the infrastructure and people associated with that programme.”
>>2318575them too if necessary
>>2318573because i want communism rather than an endless cycle of bourgeois violence for bourgeois profits? they say you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs, and this is a zero-sum game, there is no mythical event that will end this struggle, you need the worst of events for anything to change, that was what was learned by ww1, what was also learned in ww2, and what will finally be taught to us one more fucking time in ww3
>>2318574Israel took multiple covert actions before attack on Iran: ReportIsrael’s Mossad spy agency has revealed footage showing its actions against Iranian air defences and ballistic missile launchers.
According to an Israeli official quoted by The Times of Israel, the Mossad built a secret explosive drone base in Iran for this morning’s operation, adding that they were used to strike ballistic missile launchers at a base near Tehran and prevented Iran from firing projectiles at Israel as this morning’s strikes began.
The officials also reportedly said that the vehicles carrying weapons systems were smuggled into Iran and took out Iran’s air defences to give Israeli planes air supremacy and freedom of action over Iran.
Mossad commandos also deployed precision missiles near anti-aircraft sites in central Iran, according to the official.
The agency also released footage purporting to show its operatives in action that was shared by the Times of Israel.
>>2318590>because at least they'd have gay rights or somethingLmao, ikr. Saudi Arabia, famous for it's gay rights as a western ally.
The west and israhell only use gay people as an excuse to do unspeakable horror
>>2318583Its like I've been saying as an analogy for a long time now: How do you convince people that not only do rapists need to be killed, but the particular conditions that produce them must also be abolished?
The answer is of course that they themselves must be harshly raped.
>>2318589 (me)
This reveal by the entity kind of puts some things together. With the big intel leak they were probably in a 'use it or lose it' situation with a lot of these assets.
>>2318597Ah, yes. Getting bombed and occupied by a fascist state, the perfect vehicle for social change.
Take Afghanistan for example, after 20 years of occupation by the American Empire, it became a beacon of woman and LGBT+ rights.
>>2318602>radlibs are people who believe communism won't come because red jesus from the great eastern lands decided it's time for communismseriously?
>>2318608this but unironically, you need a great calamity for a revolution to happen, this even happened in yugoslavia and greece, so i don't know why you're arguing the contrary when it's factually what happened
>>2318611Literally better than under US rule
Do you know how many people died? Directly or indirectly. Or what constitutes progress to your basic ass?
Comparing the Taliban to the Great Satan is fucking offensive.
This reminds me of that palestine event.
Shit was cash
>>2318611considering that there would've been 20 years worth of opposition to the Taliban from within, yes.
Feminism in Afghanistan would also not have been associated with the people occupying their country, whom openly think they're subhuman.
>>2318605Hey sure that's be great.
Extremely unlikely that is going to happen any time soon though. No organized communist movement ready to seize power of any significance. 'Subjective conditions' just don't exist atm.
Objective conditions might soon be there though if actual war takes place.
>>2318626Stone liberals
This is my only serious political position
Socialism is a hobby
but this is most serious
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxv3ledlvyoCIA analyst who leaked Israel strike plan sentenced to three years<1 day agooA former CIA analyst who leaked classified documents about Israel's plans to strike Iran has been sentenced to 37 months in prison.
Asif William Rahman, 34, pleaded guilty in January to two counts of willful retention and transmission of national defence information under the Espionage Act.
Authorities say that, using his high-level security clearance, Rahman printed, photographed and sent out top secret documents. They later ended up being circulated on social media.
Israel carried out air strikes on Iran last October, targeting military sites in several regions, in response to the barrage of missiles launched by Tehran weeks earlier.
"For months, this defendant betrayed the American people and the oaths he took upon entering his office by leaking some of our Nation's most closely held secrets," John Eisenberg, assistant attorney general for national security, said in a press release.
In October 2024, documents appearing to be from a Department of Defense agency were published on an Iranian-aligned Telegram account.
The documents, bearing a top-secret mark, were viewable between the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, made up of the US, Britain, Canada, New Zealand and Australia.
The leaked documents are also said to have contained the US' assessment of Israeli plans ahead of the strike on Iran and the movements of military assets in preparation.
One referred to Israel's nuclear capabilities, which have never been officially acknowledged.
When asked about the leak, former President Joe Biden said he was "deeply concerned".
Israel ended up carrying out those air strikes later in the month, targeting military sites in several regions in response to missiles fired by Tehran weeks prior.
Rahman, who worked abroad, was arrested by the FBI in Cambodia and brought to the US territory of Guam to face charges.
>>2318625And I fully agreed with you there.
I mean, ahy is the KKE the most based party in Europe? Because it lost a civil war, got banned, harassed, exiled, imprisoned, went through a junta, and lived in a country with a gni similar to eastern europe but with capitalist levels inequality & dysfunction. A lot of illusions & manipulations just couldn't work after living through all that.
>>2318641i love how you still ignored yugoslavia, which was directly occupied, one of the worst victims of its genocide per capita, and yet its puppet governments were still overthrown by local communists that otherwise wouldn't have gotten in, which iran is actually more analogous to than france
>>2318640thanks man
>>2318644I'll be honest though I sincerely doubt we'll get a communist takeover in either Israel or Iran if they go to war, after the war ends.
But it will weaken two of our enemy governments at least. Its not quite the same as the destruction of Libya & Syria where the main winners were the traditional imperial core cpuntries.
>>2318656Interesting thought. It would also immediately benefit the gulf monarchies assuming they don't get any collateral damage… Hm…
Europe would be damaged by higher fuel prices though; Ambiguous what happens to the U.S.
The DPRK also gets a shitton of opportunities to export more weapons to Iran short term.
I ain't a China or Russia camper though so I ain't too upset there.
Finally higher energy prices will put a squeeze on any third world country that isn't a major (cheap energy) producer, so that might help with radicalization there.
>>2318669Diplomacy? The past 25 years have taught the West that Middle Eastern countries cannot be negotiated with, only conquered. As far as they're concerned, the only language those savages understand is violence.
Is that actually true? No.
Do they sincerely believe it? Yes.
>>2318642>Ukraine should've just capitulated then no one would have died.Unironically correct. Ukraine at the time of invasion was little more than a proxy NATO base.
It should have never got that way to begin with. And it had a chance to change course up to April 2022.
>>2318694Iran is going to give Israel a FORCEFUL SLAP!
It's over for Israel
>>2318694They already launched some piddling drone strike but all of them were reportedly intercepted. They're completely unprepared. They'll probably do that:
>We will respond at a time of our own choosing thing. Meaning that it will probably take them weeks to prepare any kind of strike that has any hope of doing any damage. Really look like they got caught with their pants down when they should've expected all this.
Also apparently their country and government is compromised as fuck and crawling with Mossad and CIA assets.
>>2318704apparently multiple UK/US took off after the reports of kamikaze drones.
also, bibi was on greek airspace during the attacks on Iran.
it seems to me israel is much more scared.
>>2318733Based on the nothingburger of response
>>2318739I nightly doubt it’s actually Iran retaliating. It’s probably either Israel or the US mobilizing their own Air Force to pretend to be Iran responding and bombing empty airfields in order to “strike back” at Iran as an excuse. We know Israel is not above casus belli so they are definitely going to level Tehran during the next week.
>>2318759in the 50 years zionists have existed, the cucked pseudo ottomans have never, ever done anything meaningful for Palestine.
that their population believes in erdogan, surprises me.
>>2318780Never trust America
Never trust Israel
Never trust the West
>>2318790they voted for the neoliberal candidate to get rid of neoliberalism
they voted for the anti immigrant candidate that opposed bidens deportation policies
>>2318795No they really won't this time, if Iran goes back to the negotiating table it will be to beg for mercy and not because they got tricked again.
Israel is going all out and trying to destroy all their military capabilities while killing civilians, and America is publically taking credit for all this. There is actually zero chance that Iran will trust the US with a nuclear deal after this.
>>2318776 (me)
for reference.
lion attacking? more like kitty paws.
>>2318807They'll beg for mercy
And the moment they think they got something they'll get bombed again just for kicks.
>>2318868I don't get punished for making fun of American states in the USA. I don't get punished for saying to remove funding from states. I don't even get punished for saying to invade other states or saying to have them breakaway from the USA. Never
Only for Israel
>>2318852There is rich bourgeoisie from so many countries who give big money to USA politics yet we can say whatever we want about their countries. We can't about Israel without being punished with jail, threatened to be deported, expelled from schools or have careers ruined
To pretend that this is fully logically about USA decisions to help USA interest is delusional. I can demand USA brings troops home from Japan and South Korea no problem in the USA and face no issues.
>>2318855As your judeobolshevik enemy, consider this:
If we truly controlled united states completely as behind the scenes centrally planned economy & society, why wouldn't we have just annexed all of Palestine, and hell go full greater Israel? Why not? What would stop us at that point? The pissweak middle eastern opposition?
Truth is nobody is truly in control. In neither the us, israel or any other country. Rather capitalism is the controller; Its logic is that of competition between agents for relative individual profit & market share of the whole economy.
https://ianwrightsite.wordpress.com/2020/03/05/prologomena-to-a-demonology-of-capitalism/>>2318877>You will be punished for being against any imperialist war like Iraq of AfghanistanNo you will not. You will not be fired for that. You will not be expelled from school. You will not be deported. You will not your political office
Come on man you know this is BULLSHIT
>>2318885The bourgeoisie is a class defined by its division, by the internal antagonism at the heart of capitalism.
Bourgeois states are states that enforce the rules of the capitalist game (the emergent outcomes of which they themselves are subjected to)
I think its fair to say the U.S. is a zionist state (due to its foreign policy) but it would be ridiculous to say any one person or group controlled itd entire economy & society.
>>2318877I can go right now and call for sanctions to be removed from Cuba and absolutely nothing will happen to me. I can say at a job, I can write articles about it at school, I can run for office saying it too. I won't be deported for this either
Get real man.
>>2318877This is bullshit too people are not punished for saying to stop arming Saudi Arabia this dosen't fucking happen bro
People also constantly demand for Ukraine to stop being armed with no issues. Why are you making up these positions!
>>2318915Dis uygha knows.
China lobby back in the day was like the israel lobby today.
>>2318905>No u.s citizen has been deported ???? Do you know how hard it is to take an American citizenship? There has been about 1000 people total who have had it taken since the year 2000. So your argument now is that my points are BULLSHIT because AMERICAN CITIZENS are not being deported for questioning Israel?
Really? Meanwhile American citizens get expelled for it, lose political office, lose jobs, have reputations tarnished, get organizations shut down and get black listed
>>2318934That's all you think this is? Just Americans gathering together and pressuring that's it? Come on man why are you purposely being so naive like it is some twitter cancel culture and that's it
Why do you do this?
>>2318917>>2318916>>2318915Americans constantly slander Ukraine even calling it a Nazi shit hole with no problems and demand in masses to stop arming it no problem
American culture involves shitting on the UK so that does not make sense
Opposing funding Taiwan does not get you punished. At best being openly pro China will get you punished.
It is generally accepted that Taiwan and China it is to maintain the status quo now. The USA dosen't even recognize Taiwan independence itself openly. To take a neutral position won't get you damaged at all it's the USA government stance.
I can't believe how illiterate most of this board is. Read the bible.
The Covenant of Circumcision
>17 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty[a]; walk before me faithfully and be blameless. 2 Then I will make my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.”
>3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram[b]; your name will be Abraham,[c] for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”
>9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
>15 God also said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you are no longer to call her Sarai; her name will be Sarah. 16 I will bless her and will surely give you a son by her. I will bless her so that she will be the mother of nations; kings of peoples will come from her.”
>17 Abraham fell facedown; he laughed and said to himself, “Will a son be born to a man a hundred years old? Will Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?” 18 And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!”
>19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac.[d] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.
>23 On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him.
The Jewish people have never broken the covenant, therefore the land clearly belongs to them. God said it in no uncertain terms.
>>2318942It's not the truth. It's not simply the same shit as people getting mad at some twitter user. There is billions of dollars, laws, politicians, donors, media and organizations all wepaonized strongly against people for questioning Israel
This is not just some angry right wing people. Man you are so dedicated to this and not wanting to accept the power here at all. You literally die than admit the power Zionist and Israel have when it is in your face. It is absolutely absurd to me
>>2318954But really read the Torah.
וַיְהִ֣י אַבְרָ֔ם בֶּן־תִּשְׁעִ֥ים שָׁנָ֖ה וְתֵ֣שַׁע שָׁנִ֑ים וַיֵּרָ֨א יְהֹוָ֜ה אֶל־אַבְרָ֗ם וַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֵלָיו֙ אֲנִי־אֵ֣ל שַׁדַּ֔י הִתְהַלֵּ֥ךְ לְפָנַ֖י וֶֽהְיֵ֥ה תָמִֽים:
בוְאֶתְּנָ֥ה בְרִיתִ֖י בֵּינִ֣י וּבֵינֶ֑ךָ וְאַרְבֶּ֥ה אֽוֹתְךָ֖ בִּמְאֹ֥ד מְאֹֽד:
גוַיִּפֹּ֥ל אַבְרָ֖ם עַל־פָּנָ֑יו וַיְדַבֵּ֥ר אִתּ֛וֹ אֱלֹהִ֖ים לֵאמֹֽר:
דאֲנִ֕י הִנֵּ֥ה בְרִיתִ֖י אִתָּ֑ךְ וְהָיִ֕יתָ לְאַ֖ב הֲמ֥וֹן גּוֹיִֽם:
הוְלֹֽא־יִקָּרֵ֥א ע֛וֹד אֶת־שִׁמְךָ֖ אַבְרָ֑ם וְהָיָ֤ה שִׁמְךָ֙ אַבְרָהָ֔ם כִּ֛י אַב־הֲמ֥וֹן גּוֹיִ֖ם נְתַתִּֽיךָ:
ווְהִפְרֵתִ֤י אֹֽתְךָ֙ בִּמְאֹ֣ד מְאֹ֔ד וּנְתַתִּ֖יךָ לְגוֹיִ֑ם וּמְלָכִ֖ים מִמְּךָ֥ יֵצֵֽאוּ:
זוַֽהֲקִֽמֹתִ֨י אֶת־בְּרִיתִ֜י בֵּינִ֣י וּבֵינֶ֗ךָ וּבֵ֨ין זַרְעֲךָ֧ אַֽחֲרֶ֛יךָ לְדֹֽרֹתָ֖ם לִבְרִ֣ית עוֹלָ֑ם לִֽהְי֤וֹת לְךָ֙ לֵֽאלֹהִ֔ים וּלְזַרְעֲךָ֖ אַֽחֲרֶֽיךָ:
חוְנָֽתַתִּ֣י לְ֠ךָ֠ וּלְזַרְעֲךָ֨ אַֽחֲרֶ֜יךָ אֵ֣ת | אֶ֣רֶץ מְגֻרֶ֗יךָ אֵ֚ת כָּל־אֶ֣רֶץ כְּנַ֔עַן לַֽאֲחֻזַּ֖ת עוֹלָ֑ם וְהָיִ֥יתִי לָהֶ֖ם לֵֽאלֹהִֽים:
טוַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־אַבְרָהָ֔ם וְאַתָּ֖ה אֶת־בְּרִיתִ֣י תִשְׁמֹ֑ר אַתָּ֛ה וְזַרְעֲךָ֥ אַֽחֲרֶ֖יךָ לְדֹֽרֹתָֽם:
יזֹ֣את בְּרִיתִ֞י אֲשֶׁ֣ר תִּשְׁמְר֗וּ בֵּינִי֙ וּבֵ֣ינֵיכֶ֔ם וּבֵ֥ין זַרְעֲךָ֖ אַֽחֲרֶ֑יךָ הִמּ֥וֹל לָכֶ֖ם כָּל־זָכָֽר:
יאוּנְמַלְתֶּ֕ם אֵ֖ת בְּשַׂ֣ר עָרְלַתְכֶ֑ם וְהָיָה֙ לְא֣וֹת בְּרִ֔ית בֵּינִ֖י וּבֵֽינֵיכֶֽם:
יבוּבֶן־שְׁמֹנַ֣ת יָמִ֗ים יִמּ֥וֹל לָכֶ֛ם כָּל־זָכָ֖ר לְדֹרֹֽתֵיכֶ֑ם יְלִ֣יד בָּ֔יִת וּמִקְנַת־כֶּ֨סֶף֙ מִכֹּ֣ל בֶּן־נֵכָ֔ר אֲשֶׁ֛ר לֹ֥א מִזַּרְעֲךָ֖ הֽוּא:
יגהִמּ֧וֹל | יִמּ֛וֹל יְלִ֥יד בֵּֽיתְךָ֖ וּמִקְנַ֣ת כַּסְפֶּ֑ךָ וְהָֽיְתָ֧ה בְרִיתִ֛י בִּבְשַׂרְכֶ֖ם לִבְרִ֥ית עוֹלָֽם:
ידוְעָרֵ֣ל | זָכָ֗ר אֲשֶׁ֤ר לֹֽא־יִמּוֹל֙ אֶת־בְּשַׂ֣ר עָרְלָת֔וֹ וְנִכְרְתָ֛ה הַנֶּ֥פֶשׁ הַהִ֖וא מֵֽעַמֶּ֑יהָ אֶת־בְּרִיתִ֖י הֵפַֽר:
טווַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־אַבְרָהָ֔ם שָׂרַ֣י אִשְׁתְּךָ֔ לֹֽא־תִקְרָ֥א אֶת־שְׁמָ֖הּ שָׂרָ֑י כִּ֥י שָׂרָ֖ה שְׁמָֽהּ:
טזוּבֵֽרַכְתִּ֣י אֹתָ֔הּ וְגַ֨ם נָתַ֧תִּי מִמֶּ֛נָּה לְךָ֖ בֵּ֑ן וּבֵֽרַכְתִּ֨יהָ֙ וְהָֽיְתָ֣ה לְגוֹיִ֔ם מַלְכֵ֥י עַמִּ֖ים מִמֶּ֥נָּה יִֽהְיֽוּ:
יזוַיִּפֹּ֧ל אַבְרָהָ֛ם עַל־פָּנָ֖יו וַיִּצְחָ֑ק וַיֹּ֣אמֶר בְּלִבּ֗וֹ הַלְּבֶ֤ן מֵאָֽה־שָׁנָה֙ יִוָּלֵ֔ד וְאִ֨ם־שָׂרָ֔ה הֲבַת־תִּשְׁעִ֥ים שָׁנָ֖ה תֵּלֵֽד:
יחוַיֹּ֥אמֶר אַבְרָהָ֖ם אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִ֑ים ל֥וּ יִשְׁמָעֵ֖אל יִֽחְיֶ֥ה לְפָנֶֽיךָ:
יטוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֗ים אֲבָל֙ שָׂרָ֣ה אִשְׁתְּךָ֗ יֹלֶ֤דֶת לְךָ֙ בֵּ֔ן וְקָרָ֥אתָ אֶת־שְׁמ֖וֹ יִצְחָ֑ק וַֽהֲקִֽמֹתִ֨י אֶת־בְּרִיתִ֥י אִתּ֛וֹ לִבְרִ֥ית עוֹלָ֖ם לְזַרְע֥וֹ אַֽחֲרָֽיו:
כוּלְיִשְׁמָעֵאל֘ שְׁמַעְתִּ֒יךָ֒ הִנֵּ֣ה | בֵּרַ֣כְתִּי אֹת֗וֹ וְהִפְרֵיתִ֥י אֹת֛וֹ וְהִרְבֵּיתִ֥י אֹת֖וֹ בִּמְאֹ֣ד מְאֹ֑ד שְׁנֵֽים־עָשָׂ֤ר נְשִׂיאִם֙ יוֹלִ֔יד וּנְתַתִּ֖יו לְג֥וֹי גָּדֽוֹל:
כאוְאֶת־בְּרִיתִ֖י אָקִ֣ים אֶת־יִצְחָ֑ק אֲשֶׁר֩ תֵּלֵ֨ד לְךָ֤ שָׂרָה֙ לַמּוֹעֵ֣ד הַזֶּ֔ה בַּשָּׁנָ֖ה הָֽאַחֶֽרֶת:
כבוַיְכַ֖ל לְדַבֵּ֣ר אִתּ֑וֹ וַיַּ֣עַל אֱלֹהִ֔ים מֵעַ֖ל אַבְרָהָֽם:
כגוַיִּקַּ֨ח אַבְרָהָ֜ם אֶת־יִשְׁמָעֵ֣אל בְּנ֗וֹ וְאֵ֨ת כָּל־יְלִידֵ֤י בֵיתוֹ֙ וְאֵת֙ כָּל־מִקְנַ֣ת כַּסְפּ֔וֹ כָּל־זָכָ֕ר בְּאַנְשֵׁ֖י בֵּ֣ית אַבְרָהָ֑ם וַיָּ֜מָל אֶת־בְּשַׂ֣ר עָרְלָתָ֗ם בְּעֶ֨צֶם֙ הַיּ֣וֹם הַזֶּ֔ה כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֛ר דִּבֶּ֥ר אִתּ֖וֹ אֱלֹהִֽים:
כדוְאַ֨בְרָהָ֔ם בֶּן־תִּשְׁעִ֥ים וָתֵ֖שַׁע שָׁנָ֑ה בְּהִמֹּל֖וֹ בְּשַׂ֥ר עָרְלָתֽוֹ:
כהוְיִשְׁמָעֵ֣אל בְּנ֔וֹ בֶּן־שְׁל֥שׁ עֶשְׂרֵ֖ה שָׁנָ֑ה בְּהִ֨מֹּל֔וֹ אֵ֖ת בְּשַׂ֥ר עָרְלָתֽוֹ:
כובְּעֶ֨צֶם֙ הַיּ֣וֹם הַזֶּ֔ה נִמּ֖וֹל אַבְרָהָ֑ם וְיִשְׁמָעֵ֖אל בְּנֽוֹ:
כזוְכָל־אַנְשֵׁ֤י בֵיתוֹ֙ יְלִ֣יד בָּ֔יִת וּמִקְנַת־כֶּ֖סֶף מֵאֵ֣ת בֶּן־נֵכָ֑ר נִמֹּ֖לוּ אִתּֽוֹ:
>>2318975Israeli officials are most rational.
Extreme rational in carrying out their settler genocidal plans.
I only wish Palestinians were a quarter as rational as Israelis and not emotional idiots most of the times.
>>2318820It's stupid, because it makes him look worse. Deceitful and untrustworthy, instead of a sympathetic victim of Netanyahu undermining his own negotiations.
>>2318839Ukraine took the L for weeks before they began to recover (even if they pissed away all their gains in 2022 instead of compromising).
It appears the only site which suffered minor penetration was Natanz, which is the shallowest site afaik. If they failed to destroy it, they're not going to be able to destroy the ones located dozens of meters underground, or deep within mountains underneath hundreds of meters of rock.
They failed to take out the full chain of command too. Which is a problem if this operation took years of planning, and everyone is dispersed now.
Iran isn't Lebanon, it's over 150x bigger. And there's a much smaller percentage of the population willing to rat out the leadership for sectarian reasons.
>>2318922I do think there's an "ideological" component too, not in the sense that "da j00s control America", but in that Washington has always gone all in for their reactionary racist puppet (settler colonial) ethnostates. What happened in south east Asia and Korea was way more vile than what burgerreich has been doing in the Middle East for the past 40 years.
They're a sockpuppet, and also represent the ideal of what burger christofashoids want America to be. A shamelessly racist, expansionist, sadistic, genocidal settler-colonial state under One Faith, with the President (like Netanyahu) above the law, courts and legislature, able to rule by degree.
It's like expecting the Nazis to repudiate ᴉuᴉlossnW or Antonescu why the hell would they?
>>2318980Many jews gave their lives to protect the USSR from the Nazi invaders and liberate Europe from the fascist occupation. Many also continue to oppose zionism while HUWITE evangelicals are soyfacing over dead brown people.
>>2318979Circumcision predates Judaism.
>>2318922>America needs MENA oil to surviveYet I can say Qatar has slavery, that Saudis are genocidal, that we should cut ties with them and sell them no arms then get no punishment
It is even a popular position amongst the USA media class to shit all over Saudi Arabia lol.
>>2318996>>2319000>Yet I can say Qatar has slavery, that Saudis are genocidal, that we should cut ties with them and sell them no arms then get no punishment Because they gulf baron states are corrupt shitholes that will look the other way to what Israel does in exchange for huge sacks of cash.
They are not a threat. Iran is a threat.
>>2318848>>2318928>>2318996u sound like a chicken hawk. why would the clerical regime with comfortable lives in iran care if some nobodies on an imageboard are upset they wont throw away their lives for a couple million non-persians
>>2318289>What is even the point of creating a repressive conservative theocratic state with one party rulethe government has a religious face but persians are mostly liberal/secular especially in the urban regions. iran is nothing like afghanistan or yemen.
>>2318769>in the 50 years zionists have existed, the cucked pseudo ottomans have never, ever done anything meaningful for Palestine.ottomans were nothing more than murderous slave traders
>>2319141Ah yes, an "extension" that works in complete detriment to actual american interests even from an imperialist pov
An "extension" that directly violates the first amendment of american citizens with full support of its crooked politicians
An "extension" that demands its "overlord" politicians complete obedience through qhat can only be described as a foreign occupational lobby (AIPAC)
>>2319141Isn't it funny how no one """extension"" of america such Taiwan, RoK, etc… share such privileges?
You're literally legally forbidden from criticizing zionism in the us
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