>>2332378>AMERICA FIRST that's why we need to care about some other country having nukes because that makes them a threat to another countryclown shit
MAGAts are embarrassing for falling for this
Trump is just another neocon.
>>2332401God will resurrect me.
It's all gonna be alright.
>>2332407>Now folks, I was talking to some of the people, you know, very smart people, generals, world leaders, everyone calls me, they all call me, they say, ‘Sir, did you know the radicals in the Middle East, they don’t call us America, they call us the Great Satan?’ That’s what they call us. The Great Satan. And I said, ‘That’s not good enough.’ Not good enough. Because under Trump, we’re not just the Great Satan, we’re the Greatest Satan. The best Satan. Nobody does Satan like we do Satan, believe me."
>crowd erupts in confused cheering >>2332415imo no, they aren't near tectonic plates and are in flatlands, and somebody made a pic showing the vibrations of typical earthquakes and nuke tests
>>2332423Well the best time for USSR to win the cold war was when the Allies only had a few
>>2332457so is basically just everyone not born a jew damned
because I thought non-Jews aren't allowed to convert or if they do they aren't considered "real" Jews
>>2332466Name one war that was won through air bombing alone, with no boots on the ground.
Trick question, it doesn't exist.
>>2332484and once you realized that no one here is buying your schizophrenia you dial it back a little. now its not that israel controls the US, it's just that israel has 'influence over american politics'.
i can do the same shit, i'll say the earth is flat then once you call me out i'll go back and retreat to a safer, less schizo opinion
>>2332474Idiotic. There were major differences in opinion between various Israeli leaders and US administrations at various points.
I never got an answer from this in one of the other threads: But if Israel were to elect a socialist government, which rejects all the ethnostate stuff, agrees to end the occupation of Gaza and the west bank, vows from now on it will only maintain peaceful relationships with Arab states and Israel, and will focus on "building socialism" in Israel. Do you think Washington would support it because they remains Jews/Zionists?
>>2332483That would have to be a centuries-long project, Israel doesn't have the numbers to outright annex the whole Middle East.
Even "Greater Israel" which is a much smaller area is overambitious
>>2332460They are allowed to convert, but the process is difficult. Whether they are accepted as 'real jews' depends. according to the jewish law converts are supposed to be equal (however there are some restrictions such as in a case of jewish law they cannot be a judge)
I was told, some people will tell converts they are not real if they dont have the right blood, while others will treat them with high respect for going through a difficult conversion. Money helps. Someone like ivanka trump got an orthodox conversion in a few months when it normally takes 3 years. I heard cases where a poor person was strung along for 6 years.
>>2332494Unironically yes.
>>2332496You know that isn't remotely the same. Israel is the primary influencer of American politics. Can you point me to any country that has this much influence over German politics?
https://www.trackaipac.com/congressI challenge you to find a single state whose congressional delegation isn't controlled by AIPAC.
>>2332520USAF signals over shortwave
you can listen here
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ >>2332524They always knew, they just pretend to not know until it's convenient.
For whatever reason there's a split on the right over this conflict, my guess is certain billionaires are not invested in the war machine and think it would be bad for business, so they're putting their puppets out there to try to sway Trump to choose caution.
>>2332541FROG
(French Republic Occupied Government)
>>2332563Obviously.
It can be simultaneously true that Israel benefits America's (as in the capitalist/military state) interests and that Israel has an obscene amount of influence over America to a detrimental degree.
A victim of their own creation.
>>2332563Yeah the denial of it is ridiculous. I have been told I hate Jews or told why am I Nazi here when I explain how we do things for Israel don't do for any other countries without mentioning Jewish people at all
It is like some hardcore vote blue no matter who mindset that these people read some anticapitalist books and can't accept that the book didn't fully account for this insane corruption we have right now and they refuse to use any information that their theory books don't include.
>>2332569>What do the Jews do for us?Under the premise of maintaining an ethnostate requiring the slow gathering of member of the right ethnic groups and faiths. And permanent conflict to provide them with motivation and incentives in the form of settler colonialism…
The Jewish state provides you with an unsinkable aircraft carrier and colonial police that keeps the entire MENA region subservient to NATO/US interests and upholds the petrodollar. As well as containing the economic integration with east Asia, where US adversaries are developing competitionl.
>>2332565No. Aside from compensating those who were evicted almost 80 years ago.
Don't care if people think that's "cringe". "Ancestral clay" is reactionary nonsense, Regardless of who is making the claim, or who is occupying the land. (I won't support descendants of jews evicted from the arab world after 1948 making claims on those seized properties either. Same with "East Prussia", Indian partition, "Decolonizing" America, etc)
>>2332559I think we both know why you didn't want to answer that.
>>2332620Hey dumbass: Reality is reality. Fictional scenarios are fictional scenarios.
"What if unicorns ate my ass" is not a question that should be dignified with an answer. It's not material.
>>2332618>what happens when Israel fallsThe entire power of NATO will be forced into intervening if that ever is on the table.
What happens if Israel magically collapsed anyway? The US economy goes with it, as it's tremendous foreign debt relies heavily on imperialism which relies heavily on the petrodollar which would very quickly lose it's exclusivity with the gulf petrostates. Even if Israel was no more NATO would still take over and reassert their power.
>>2332585>>2332590Why are poltards so triggered by
>historical materialismI mean why?
>>2332585can't you not attract these people?
they don't care.
>>2332634actually though
the amount of "N-N-NO U!"s they've done with le /pol/ face is ridiculous
the meme was so on the nose that they never recovered
>>2332648Pinkwashing? Nah hold my dildo
It's time for sextoywashing
>>2332611They’re were trying to copy Americas westward expansion model. Except the Slavs would be slaves, so if Nazi German won. 100 years later prolly follow similar path where America is right now. We’re we have to give money to the Jewish nazi state and bitch and moan about culture clash with each other while the empire runs on auto pilot exhausting itself. So you’re right they would be doing some silly shit like that.
Also the Nazis kinda did win in ww2 they all got to get integrated into nato and through out the American military industrial complex. *cough* project paper clip *cough* so you know, they all love Israel it was there idea. This is why ethno states are retarded.
>>2332656I'm still a chud but I like leftypol because at the very least, I can post without problems and not end up on 4plebs or my email leaked to the sharty.
Still the mods are retarded 75 percent of the time.
>>2332663No she fucking didn't you gullible dupes!
This is the same controlled opposition bullshit that happened when Ukraine had to be admitted as a proxy war and based part of the Cold War. The permission was given to show token opposition to it and wean the public from the damage control propaganda of the initial stages into a culture war battler where the war can be normalized and supported while depoliticizing public opinion.
>>2332679looks indistinguishable from any random street in any other middle eastern country
i thought israel was heckin hvperborea amidst le poor shitholes whose glorious opulence must be defended at all costs?
>>2332682no comment
>>2332708see
>>2332705Not only is it happening, but this time it's marsupial
>>2332717The japanese are the most cucked and pathetic people history has ever fucking seen. The ONLY country in the world to get nuked yet they worship the country that did it to them.
Lol.Lmao.
>>2332711>Anyone else have to rethink their post often to not fed post with what is happeningThe thing I've been closest to fedposting about is random people I game with being casually Zionist, tracking the latest hasbara line, as a result of youtuber drama milking the issue.
Like… fucking what bro? You really gonna start ranting nazoid shit out of the blue because someone mentioned a youtuber and it triggered your parasocial conditioning.
>>2332644Your problem is that you think it's mutually exclusive. Either Israel is America's imperial outpost OR America is beholden to Israel.
It's both. Israel is America's monster that has gone out of control. A biological weapon that broke containment. A symbiote that turned into a parasite.
(I used a few analogies because I know you enjoy dumb fictional scenarios.)
The issue with imperialist theory is that while it is absolutely real, when not contextualized properly it's easy to simplify it into unchanging abstractions. America is the imperial power, therefore Israel is the vassal state, therefore America is fully in control in all cases and everything Israel does is at the behest of America.
Obviously that's not the case, otherwise why would Israel need to lobby the American goverment? Why would Israel act independently of the American government, and often undermine it in order to force them into certain situations? Why would Israel create situations that threaten global trade (and therefore the American economy)? These are not the actions of a puppet state.
The value of Israel to America's interests is also massively overstated given that America has many other allies in the region. Hell, even looking globally, Japan has far more US troops and military bases, yet Japan doesn't have anywhere near the stranglehold over the US government that Israel does - why? Why doesn't Japan get treated the same way Israel does by the US political and media establishment? They've been US allies roughly the same amount of time.
>>2332737>JD VanceIt's fucked.
He will cause Iran to get so annoyed they nuke Tel Aviv out of spite.
>>2332751OHHHH MAN
PIIIIG NEWS
>>2332756>or just for being a white malelmao what?
/pol/tards always find a way to feel persecuted.
I bet this dude isn't even white.
>>2332758okc polls and statistics are what blackpilled me on human nature
you have no idea how much they memoryholed
>>2332765Tel Aviv is in ruins.
>bombed Iran for daysThey only bombed a few places and the Iranians don't seem to care much. They're living life as usual while Israelis are hiding in their rat holes.
>killed a lot of their leadership?not actually a lot. they killed a guy that was already dying of cancer in his own home and a few generals. Iran has hundreds of generals with combat experience that can fill any lost positions.
Really Israel killed like…maybe 10 guys tops of political relevance to Iran? That's not very meaningful. The US lost 2 politicians just this past week to a MAGA psycho and literally who gives a fuck.
>>2332544well they're a colonial nation, so yes, they're almost all settlers, even if the guys doing new settlement are even worse. But if they give back stolen land and accept to be equal citizens with arabs, they can stay, even hamas say so (we all know 80% wont stay anyway)
>>2332620> "Ancestral clay" is reactionary nonsensemany of the expelled people are still alive you retard, this is not some old forgotten feud
Shia TG channel in Iraq (NAYAFORIRAQ)
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Announcement of full readiness and an irreversible position.
We, the Mujahideen*, who answered the call of the homeland when ISIS gangs invaded our land, announce today our full military and logistical readiness to stand firmly alongside the Islamic Republic of Iran in defense of the axis of truth and resistance. We will never forget your stance with us in the war.
Just as we confronted terrorism, today we are ready to confront any aggression.
American bases are under our watch.
Fingers are on the trigger to end their illegal presence on Iraqi soil.
We, the sons of the fatwa, do not compromise or give in.
The covenant remains, and our position is firm.
The banner will not fall as long as there is a soul left to fight.
Let the enemy know that the hour of reckoning is not struck by words, but rather written by actions.
A group of those who answered the general fatwa.
broad term that not necessarily associates with al-qaeda or isis. in this case, and as a general statement just a religious battle, in the name of Allah.
>>2332770Air defense is a meme, any large state can shit on it longer than it can shit out interceptors
Hamas basically depleted it in that rocket barrage a couple of years before Oct7
>>2332796>Air defense is a meme**against missiles
They're good against planes and stuff
>>2332790You mean a couple of elderly? Them aside, do you suggest some 20s Palestinian should be allowed to evict and take the home of someone who was born in Israel fifty years ago?
The vast majority of Israelis today lack double citizenship, so there isn't really any place for them to go without becoming refugees/stateless.
Also as mentioned. "East Prussia", the Indian partitions, Jewish expulsions from Arab states, etc. are also equally recent.
>>2332730I think I've stated in the other threads they're two sides of the same coin, there is no "ZOG" because it implies rightoid burger porkies backing Israel are somehow brainwashed or being controlled in going against their interests as true god fearing white christians or something. Israel is not a "parasite", anymore than South Vietnam or South Africa were. They are and were all backed to keep their respective regions under the boot of Washington's influence, and Western/American (finance) capital.
You do realize why Iran needs to fall right? Because it cuts off the only non-Russian overland belt and road connection, and secures total American dominance over the middle east and its energy resources. Which is important if you're planning a war against China, which does not possess energy independence.
Israel in this regard is more important, more vital than even Ukraine, South Vietnam and South Africa combined.
>>2332807Not confirmation, yet. speculations:
at least one oil tanker, some other claims that there were three.
>>2332824They could be, but we would be seeing regular pulses. This is more like a standdown.
I guess nothing ever happens.
>>2332821They ran.
>>2332822 Who wanna see crude reach 80$ ? 🤚
Im trying to watch a fuentes stream. The chud is still in the pre-show promo stage.
Shamefur.
>>2332833>>2332834Good. I'm not ready for war yet.
>>2332530 (me)
this bare minimum better offer must be leave the nuclear civil program be.
perhaps that's why the barrage of missiles slowed down today?👀
or maybe Iranians are playing with zionists to make them ignore the warnings and maximize casualties?
unlikely >>2332830>Who wanna see crude reach 80$ ? 🤚I'm becoming an oil paypiggy in anticipation.
>>2332837Zero. Massie + the squad = dead on arrival
>>2332848 (me)
>>2332842 (me)
no, no, maybe I am getting this stuff wrong, and Iran
is saving ammo during the next 24 hours depending on whether trump sings a war decree or not >>2332830>>2332829Fucking Russia stalled the delivery of su35 and only delivered very few. If they did it as promised this all could've looked different now.
Plus Iran helped them out in the war against Ukraine. Ungrateful bastards.
>>2332857MAGA civil war kek
>>2332858What do you want from cucktin? I mean come on. Andrei Fucking Martyanov should be a good sign the whole country is fucked up on its own farts.
>>2332838They have nothing. They can't even fly a helicopter without it crashing and killing their president because it's so old and poorly maintained.
But it's also their religiosity, where they're desperate to be considered the "good guy" so they have nothing like Mossad which is willing to fight dirty to win. I don't care if they technically have a CIA, it's clear they don't use it in any effective way. They react to random authors writing about Satanic Verses with more urgency than Israel bombing them.
>>2332863Iran must rape Israel for months and batter anyone that tries to stop them
Anything less and they will pull this shit and start again in a years time, after further carrying out their genocide
>>2332870I think it’s very funny when one of Israeli school shooters shows up and starts talking about how everyone is stupid or insane for not committing as many atrocities as possible.
It’s so revealing.
>>2332887Iran should try and sign a deal with the US for Israel to do this
Really drive USrael's diplomatic reputation straight past the sewer piping and into the depths of hell
>>2332882Israel has extremely serious wartime censorship. Sharing images of damage to any target within Israel results in immediate arrest. No OSINT source is willing to share any information showing damage to Israeli targets whatsoever. That’s why all we see are videos of the bright missiles landing in Tel Aviv from Lebanon.
This enables very effective wartime propaganda for Israel, but it completely deludes (as is the intention) parties from seeing the extent of damage. The intensification of blackout especially over Haifa is indicating now an effective series of strike.
>>2332863>>2332868Nah, this is smart.
>We'll negotiate as long as you let us fuck up Israel without interveningIs going to destroy Netanyahu politically and sour domestic support for this war even more.
They were going to have their 20 minute adventure, and if it didn't work out, then Trump would bail them out by finishing the job.
But TACO's predictable. So now the Zionists might have to fight Iran (+ allies maybe). Alone. And also they're running out of interceptors. And airports are still shut down. And ports are unsafe. And Tehran might hit their cash cows (pharmaceuticals, AI data centers, semiconductors fabs) and also brick their desalination plants and power infrastructure.
>>2332888But again you have zero evidence that there was any significant military destruction in the attack. Any of the videos or pictures coming out are just of burnt McDonalds. It reminds me of the similar coping going on after Oct 7 with the Hamas attack that also achieved nothing except opening the door for a counterattack, with the convenient excuse of "rescuing the hostages" which we know Israel didn't care about. Similarly, I guess everyone forgot they reacted to that attack by making up atrocities to raise support for glassing Gaza.
I don't know why they're arresting some people (it's just that one video) for recording the damage but you can't extrapolate that it means there was major strategic victory. If the rumors are true and Iran is begging for peace, then that's even more evidence it's a whole lot of nothing.
>>2332907Kek. What a fucking faggot.
>What if they did xyzSee Dave, that is what Israel did. The people fighting back are the example. Fucking dipshit.
>Anybody wants to see catboy's stream here it ishttps://rumble.com/v6uw5i1-america-first-ep.-1515.html>>2332912Maybe the general inflation is the problem?
>>2332920Zios are in damage control mode. They did not expect MAGA to push back.
>>2332819>You mean a couple of elderlyno I mean the thousands of people that keep getting expelled to give way to new settlers or to get their valuable lands, and the hundreds of thousands that grew in refugee camps with their parents talking about their stolen homes you fuck
>do you suggest some 20s Palestinian should be allowed to evict and take the home of someone who was born in Israel fifty years agoif that home was their family home? fuck yes.
thats part of the awful shit of colonialism, it creates impossible situations for the successors where innocents will always suffer
>The vast majority of Israelis today lack double citizenshipIm not worried, Im sure europe and the US who love them so much would accept them
>without becoming refugees/statelessoh no, poor settlers, they'd have to go through a tiny part of what they inflicted on others, thankfully contrary to israel there wouldnt be an apartheid and active genocide in the new state so they'd prolly be fine
>are also equally recentyou had mentioned fucking "decolonizing america" which is obviously very different
and I will also absolutely blame israel for jews getting expelled (although many left voluntary, and mossad even did some terror attacks to encourage them to leave other countries)
the indian partition was a clusterfuck and you'd be hard pressed to find a socialist who thought the whole affair was a good idea, and reunification simply isnt a realistic prospect so the question is moot. Germans getting expelled after ww2 was understandably deserved, much like the zionist getting expelled would be. Innocent are caught, tough luck, you dont have any solution where no innocent suffers and so you do the next best thing, right the wrong.
>>2332774Of course they didn't but my point is that Israel doesn't really care about the nuclear thing as much as they claim, as much as 'building deterrence', killing off their nuclear personnel and leadership.
>>2332781No it's not. They killed like 400 people even then and nuclear scientists which are kind of more important here than those green suits who'll get replaced. Even if you take for granted that Israel always undercounts injuries and deaths, it's still pretty bad.
>>2332893>destroyedIt was "damaged", not destroyed, and it was a transmission pipe which can repaired easily. Oil prices are also falling. More searching for a victory that isn't there.
>>2332899Iran is begging for a ceasefire. Follow the news, retard. Israel is trying to get Trump to fund an extended conflict. This is not hidden information.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2332933He forgot to drop the flag when posting that.
Anyway. I wish i was in the radio intel unit of the miltary. It would be so comfy to sit behind a giant monitor on an AWACS aircraft listening to beeps. The other job would be a submarine sonar operator. I would love that shit. But I also want to have the superpower of teleporting. because I have adhd.
>>2332927Seems simple. I mean I also don't like immigration because I'm very very raysist.
>>2332941Trump is living in 2016. Tucker IS THE NETWORK.
>>2332961I guess krokodil or heroin trafficked from afghanistan. I knew an afghan soviet pilot who flew heroin in zinc coffins to be sold in europe. Some east german border guards also were on the grift and american servicemen too.
Most likely it was alchohol from the prohibition of gorbachev.
>>2332943>it was a transmission pipe which can repaired easilyoh shit didnt realize we had the specialist here. Big ass fire in a refinery dont damage anything else thankfully. And apparently oil price are low, could things be better for israel? good thing we can trust israel to report the damage it takes honestly.
>Iran is begging for a ceasefirelmao, what I saw is trump begging them to negotiate
>>2332992How many times will they fall for this?
>>2332996Not happening
>>2332982There's an Iranian reply guy on twitter under one of the smaller accounts I follow, and he's convinced Qatar is the new Israel-esque foreign influence faction.
Thing is he was actually saying this from before the plane thing, so I started treating him like less of a schizo lol
>>2332977They get culturally implanted with it from their parents endlessly telling them about how they "escaped communism." At the risk of sounding like a Settlers enthusiast, the children continue it out of both respect for their parents and that it's socially beneficial to play up the "model minority" card.
>>2332980Yet, somehow, people here have enough evidence that all of Israel's significant military structures have been destroyed and Iran actually won. I'm getting flashbacks to October 7th.
>>2332992two options, another b8.
or they do reach to an agreement.
>>2333024It happened in the first term, when Iran leveled a U.S base in Iraq and then trump came out all sweaty at like 1am to back off.
>>2333039It looks like they’re recycling the same graphics from 2003 too.
>>2333047they raided here for 8 hours and said we were all zogbots and that hitler would rise again etc. etc.
to be fair I do think the ghost of hitler possessed the iron dome earlier today which is why it shot itself
>>2333047there's a civil war on pol rn. half the threads are "do not support the dirty
JEW in his war he only wants to kill huwhites" and the other half is "you must support israel in this war other wise you're a filthy
JEW commie traitor of the aryan race"
it's funny. what a lack of materialist understanding does to a mf.
>>2333055</pol/ coping about "real" Nazis and "real" westerners/whites/aryansSame problem as with Ukraine. Their retarded talking points and most of their ideology, save for the explicit nazism, are put into service of everything they purport to hate. They see themselves reflected in the abject tools of imperialism and they need to cope and seethe about it.
Nick Fuentes is eating well, providing cope for those types.
>>2332781I think this deserves highlighting:
>iranians and the rest of MENA<duck high yield usraeli bombs on the regular since birth<yuo are like little baby watch this
>pissrael<believed their own iron dome propaganda<thought they were hard for facing down low yield improvised rockets<have committed unspeakable atrocities so they lowkey deserve it<are in an all out panic after their second taste of the persian shitmaybe they'll cool off on war. there's so much footage of these morons getting knocked flat on their arse because they didn't expect the boom.
>>2333076>something related to Israeli interests out of news cyclelmao
you will never hear the end of it
>>2333117<With us or with the terroristsSounds better when the unspoken part is
>"or we'll blow you up because we are the undisputed hegemonic power" rather than
>"or we'll blow you up because our hegemony is on it's last legs"Both may be effective, but on the latter, you know you are siding with a loser.
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