What you need to know
• Sixth day of conflict: Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a warning at dawn on social media, telling Israel: “The battle begins.” Hours earlier, US President Donald Trump called the supreme leader an “easy target” and said that America’s “patience is wearing thin.” He also demanded Iran’s “unconditional surrender.”
• US weighs options: Two US officials told CNN that Trump is warming to the idea of using US military assets to strike Iranian nuclear facilities. A senior Israeli official told CNN that Israel is waiting to learn whether Trump will help finish the job of destroying Iran’s nuclear program.
• Deadly strikes: Israel said early Wednesday it was carrying out a series of strikes on Tehran. Israelis were also warned about incoming Iranian missiles, and explosions were heard in Tel Aviv.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-18-25-intl-hnk>>2337282>then act surprised when people reject your frameworkHave I done that once in this entire thread?
>ideas do not belong to bordersYou're speaking a Western language on a Western website and using them to convey Western postmodernist arguments in service of a form of Islam which itself owes a lot to capitalist modernity, which began in the West. Unless you build a time machine it is impossible to return to some wholly culturally "authentic" form of Islam free from Western influence and which isn't in a process of being reconfigured by capitalism. All that is solid melts into air, you can't go back.
And you keep mentioning how shocked communists are at Islam's success, how scared we and all non-Sunnis are at the idea of the caliphate. It's the fantasy of the little man who finally gets his day, that is begging for Western approval even if you can't see that it is.
>>2337306Marxism rejects every tradition,. including that of the West
You're talking as if Marx sucked the Catholic Church's dick you moron
Islam is a vehicle of sadism and stupidity
>>2337309I speak English and engage here because ideas need to be challenged everywhere, not because I seek approval from the West. Islam, like all living traditions, naturally evolves over time. While it has been influenced by history, including capitalism, it is not defined by it.
The caliphate is not a fantasy dreamed up by insignificant people. It represents a vision of justice and unity that stands against both Western imperialism and local tyranny. You claim it is begging for approval, but in reality, it rejects the West’s claim to exclusive legitimacy.
>All that is solid melts into airTrye, but it means we must build something new rather than surrender to defeat or erase our identity.
>>2337304>Revelation orders what is meaningfulUnless there is something standing above these subjective, self-referential paradigms then what's your criteria for meaning in the first place?
>You know full well that scholars debate legal norms across time, place, and methodThere really isn't much debate on that one and almost all of the people who are against it are not jurists but lay reformists. A lot of them lay reformists who wouldn't even call themselves Sunnis or Shias. I don't think that matters because I don't think the theory about how Islamic jurisprudence works is actually what determines how it works, I think its shaped by material conditions like any other cultural tradition. The theory sanctifying and governing Islamic jurisprudence developed over time and involved a ton of debate and agreement just like the actual jurisprudence itself did. But you do think it matters, feel free to list the Sunni jurists who are against pedophilia but it's going to be a short list.
>>2336737when someone from Philly tells you that zionistland it's their 3000 y.o. promised land, moves in to the colonial settler project because they were promised with healthcare, housing, in exchange of killing some "inferior" "subhuman" brown people, I guarantee you he won't last one day of a bomb campaign.
very completely different set up of national ideologies.
>>2337336countries which are 95+ % muslim, your answer is unambiguous
But there are countries where many muslims live but they are not a majority, like India or Western European states or Nigeria
How will that authority interact with the muslims in these countries? Does the Caliphate override their local laws?
>>2337345nothing
but it was good of the aura posting
TikTok truly ruined everything
>>2337343it's Zionism dude, except for Sunnis instead of Jews. Right-thinkers are part of it, the wrongthinkers will be hunted down untl purity is achieved. And once purity is achieved they will be able to defeat Israel, but until then they must collaborate and help empower Israel to defeat the Muslim wrongthinkers.
But one day it will all be different. trust me bro…
>>2337280burger love to scam burgers.
this is the freedom phone 2.0.
>>2337355https://freedomphone.com/ a re-branded Chinese phone that only because says "freedom" in the OS they will charge you twice as much.
older than the T1, same scam spirit.
>>2337325>You claim it is begging for approvalI claimed you were doing that, not the caliphate. The caliphate doesn't exist except as an idea in people's heads and it's not going to exist in any sense more real than that. To what extent it existed at all after the Abbasid decline is very debatable. For most of Islamic history there have been puppet caliphs or no caliphs or a bunch of different competing self-proclaimed caliphs none of which you recognize as legitimate today. Which isn't even getting into early Islamic history where unless you're a dogmatist retard it's impossible to come to any other conclusion besides that nobody knew what the fuck they were doing and these political theologies like the caliphate and imamate emerged gradually as often very self-interested intellectuals came to terms with the results of the civil wars.
You have a completely romanticized image of Islamic history cooked up by ideologues specifically to juice you up into dying for your bourgeoisie and sometimes the CIA. The idea that there was some clear line of succession between Rashidun, Ummayad, Abbasid, and Ottoman empires and that they all functioned and understood themselves in basically the same way is a massive oversimplification. And ummahfags can't even agree on that lol, half of you guys think the Ottomans were bad too.
>>2337343Wherever Muslims live, the Caliphate’s authority is supreme because it represents the divine law that guides their faith and life. In countries where Muslims are a majority, this authority naturally shapes the political order. In places where Muslims are a minority, the Caliphate still claims spiritual and legal jurisdiction over them, meaning its laws take precedence over local laws for Muslims.
This is not a matter of choice or negotiation. True unity under the Caliphate requires Muslims to follow divine guidance above all earthly laws, even if it conflicts with the laws of non-Muslim states. The Caliphate exists to uphold justice and faith, not to submit to secular or foreign legal systems.
>>2337360their love for targeting hospitals is astonishing.
Iran haven't touched health centers so far.
>>2337369 (me)
also, the weird non-sequitur between Marx's words on "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" and "self interest" and "israel is justifiably allowed to spy on Americans" lmao.
anti-communists are weird people. very weird people.
>>2336947That shut him up. Notice how he just stops responding when he's out of snark instead of even once in his jaded ass existence saying something even relatively diplomatic like this
>>2336881 which he of course called "crybullying" in
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