>>2342330If he doesn't he's going to be assassinated by
Mossad Eye-Ran, and every PQTRIQT will mourn him by signing up to a boot boy
>>2342346"Age with dignity" ?, in between needing to wear pampers, needing a cleaner, and having dementia, I don't think people in their 90s have much if it. Weird choice of word
>>2342330 He said 2 weeks…
>>2342353>"Age with dignity" ?, in between needing to wear pampers, needing a cleaner, and having dementia, I don't think people in their 90s have much if it. Weird choice of wordyeah what a meme. in
War in Peace Maria Dmitriovna says "You either die in your bed or God spares you that fate by letting you die in a battle."
>>2342332https://thetyrannosaur.tumblr.com/post/186317187881/have-fun-in-the-war-dumbass-ill-be-at-homeThis is where this is taken
>imagine picrel on your car.I got a juicy story for you. My friend was hired as a "replacement" by a military husband when he was away. The wife was early 40's he was freshman in college. To make it look legit, he became a tenant in their basement and when the husband left on deployment, he would move into the master bedroom. The weirdest part of all is this couple's son was asked by his dad if there were any dudes his age that can "help mom out". So the son asked his friend (my friend) and he ended up shagging his mom. Everybody is happy with the arrangement. The son is also chill but it's awkward when your mom comes out of the master bedroom holding hands with your friend and making you both breakfast. I asked my friend why the soldier husband wanted a young guy and he said that the dad did not want to feel competition so they chose someone that is substantially different from the husband. Either way I think it's kinda smart to do that. At least he knows his wife is in good hands. Still I think how lucky my friend is to bang a hot milf on her husband's behalf.
>>2342401Oh…
Two weeks, then?
>>2342399>>2342396He was in the navy. And my friend did it for free. The rent was free.
I should probably ask my friend about any new shit. Not to mention, the cuck probably knows about middle east shit.
>>2342400picrel
>>2342405>The rent was free.the free rent was the payment to him. payment in kind
>>2342408 (me)
video in Yemen.
>>2342427That scenario IS hopium
god a US invasion would be incredible
t. american
>>2342427Israel-like behaviour is the best USA can do. If Iran survives - without Russian-levels of air-defence even, scaring Israeli jets out of it's territory and leaving drones operating at best - then China - with equal or more than Russian level of air defences - is impenetrable
Pic is what happens if USA commits to trying to dominate Chinese skies. And it won't take decades, days
>>2342403Which would be a really interesting scenario because it would further prove just how weakened the US empire is
>can't fight Russia directly, only a proxy war<ok, that's understandable>can't fight Iran either, only proxy<uhm…. okay? you guys said you were literally going to finish up with Iran after Syria, Lybia, etc. BUT OKAY I GUESS>can't into Venezuela either, only childish color rev attempts<I mean, that's just a broke ass countryand the list might go on and on until """people""" (NATO members) realize that the jig is up, they are no longer the little idiots in the protective shadow of the Behemoth. What's casting its shadow is a cut-out of a behemoth made out of cardboard, and the real behemoth has shrunken down to the size of a domesticated chicken and is shivering at the cut-out's feet.
It's weird because from that original leaked list from the CIA (Syria, Lybia, Iran, etc.) the ones they 'did' (and a little 'extra on the side' like Afghanistan and Pakistan) actually weakened America's capacity for imperial power projection. AT BEST they can hope for politically neutralized country, but who is to say the current Syrian "moderate ISIS leaders" won't pull another 9/11 in the near future, after they realized they were merely useful idiots for the empire, as it literally happened with Obama Bin Laden. Plus, these limited but otherwise regime change color revs mere deactivate countries for a few decades, a prime example being Lybia, which is still in political turmoil, the current compradors obviously being incompetent fools who can't manufacture consent for shit, while all neighbouring countries (and even Europe) suffers the consequences of the meddling.
The last time the winning model was simple: defeat enemy in direct war (Japan, Germany, Italy, South Korea), give them trillions of dollars to redevelop but also tying them to your own markets, and
voila! you've created a 'Western(ized)' community where everyone accepts you as the benevolent Empire.
But now it's just proxy wars, gay shitty coup attempts, spreading more and more instability on every continent to the point everybody had enough with you, and the countries where you've spread your "muh democracy" have either already turned against you or quite obviously will.
The thing is, burgerstan would LOVE to do a classic style direct war against Iran, load the new leadership's pocket with trillions of dollars, ensuring the rapid development and the popular support of the new regime, but America doesn't have the fucking money anymore, nor the political capital to manufacture consent for another (this time totally not) forever war. And at this point I'm doubting even whether they could win this shit against Iran. I'm certain they couldn't win against China or Russia – that would be suicide, probably M.A.D. scenario, etc., but I'm starting to think that Mao's "paper tiger" diagnosis is becoming apt in our lifetime, and these faggots can't even militarily (which is to say disregarding the lack of political support, lack of money to manage the project further after a win, etc.) take somewhat properly managed state capitalist entity of 80 million people. Like what I know about Iran's army it's that it's not cutting edge by any means but they are prepared for a prolonged war and have specialized weaponry for their own geographic needs. And then I'm thinking, fuckers couldn't even take Venezuela, an under-averagely-ran-socdem-state of 28 million people.
So what's the fucking limit here? Are we already scraping the bottom of the imperialism juice barrel? Could the USA conquer, for example, Cyprus, a shitty divided island of 1.3M? Could it take micro states of a few thousand people?
Can America take meme self-declared states of 10 ppl?
Are Americans… even real?
It seems like Israel has the strategically better position relative to Iran. Even though their interceptors often fail, they have a much higher success rate than Iranian air defenses, which thus far are not confirmed to have brought down or seriously any Israeli warplanes or deterred their attacks. Iran also has a more limited stockpile of munitions, as Israel can rely on consistent resupply from the West. Israel also has a clear advantage in intelligence, with the Mossad infiltration of Iran being quite severe and the IRGC having no equivalent network in Israel. All that being said, I still don't think Israel can defeat Iran on its own. Similar to how undeniable tactical successes of the Ukrainians at various times during that war were still not enough for them to defeat Russia. It's very, very rare for a government to be toppled by aerial bombing alone, and now that the initial surprise from this Pearl Harbour-style attack is gone, Iranian counterintelligence will like start seriously degrading the Israeli network. I think Iran will be able to endure Israeli bombardment for a long time to come, and that they may simply be able to outlast the Zionists and absorb their attacks without capitulating. I think the Iranian government is aware of all this, which is why they have opted to force Israel into a longer war, conserve their munitions, etc. As the old anti-colonial adage went, "You will get tired of killing us before we get tired of dying." This calculus changes dramatically if the US becomes involved, but until that happens I think Iran has a long term advantage despite Israel's short term ones.
>>2342449/pol/ uses guys like this (and some Jewish Soviet/US diplomatic attaches) to argue China is controlled by Jews
I don't know who is glowing who at this point. White Ummah ahh retards.
>>2342463>>2342464Bin Laden compound replica for military training in China lol
They also have replicas of:
>1. Taiwan's Presidential Office Building and Government District>2. Mock-up of Downtown Taipei>3. Replica of the Eiffel Tower (???)>4. Mock Airfields and Highways>5. U.S. Warship/Aircraft Carrier mock-ups >>2342465nah
This is not only not a world war, it's not even a global proxy war. Behind the charade of sending soup port to Ukraine you could actually investigate and see that it's basically 3 European powers (the usual candidates: UK, France, Germany)+USA (Biden) supplying them while the rest of the bloc mostly does performative condemnations of Russia while sending jack shit. In the world wars almost all countries joined one side or the other, were made involved as colonies, sent troops, real arms, etc.
Ukraine+Israel are joke pomo wars where the main weapons manufacturing firms can unload their old tech and get new state gibs for developing new tech.
>>2342478Brought this up to a boomer christian israel dick rider once + what the roman empire did to Jews in the middle east after they genocided settlements of christian migrants and muslims living together.
Literally had nothing to say, except for he was still backing Israel and always would. Why? Because its the right thing to do. How is it the right thing to do? Couldn't say, but he "knew" it was in his "soul".
>>2342492>fucked hot milf pussy as a stand in for her cuck husband for god knows how long>got to live for free and all he had to do was fuck<oh no jesus is mad with meshut his bitch ass up if you ever talk to him again
jesus would be disappointed at how much of a bitch he is
>>2342497This was what I left the conversation assuming. It was just racism. He doesn't care that his European Christian ancestors had better ties with Muslims than Jews, or that Jews view Christians as useful idiots following some revisionist bullshit because most Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi and thus white or white-ish and Muslims by and large, aren't.
Thing is, I'm not even sure he was aware hes probably racist, and even if he is, you could never get the tard' to admit it.
I love the way Arabic and Persian sound btw, thought about learning it just out of curiosity/fun, but I'm years deep into Chinese and feel like I can't/shouldn't pivot at the moment. I might followup with it when I'm at conversational level Mandarin.
>>2342498>>2342499>>2342504We both grew up around a religious environment, but once you become a senior in high school, you just go through the rituals and you stop believing eventually. I know this sounds absolutely ridiculous, but hear me out.
>The hotwife made him religious again.She insisted they go to church regularly "as a family" and ALSO when husband is away. He presented himself as the son's friend who is renting the basement while being in college. Nobody in the church suspected anything (i guess now they did kek) He even sat next to the son and away from her to keep the jig going. But yeah, he became more christcucky with time. She said jesus thinks it's fine so I don't know what he is complaining about.
>t. forgot christian theology so I don't know and frankly, I don't want to know. Whatever it is, it's kinda embarrassing even tho it's pretty hot. >>2342485>China considers WW2 to have begun long before the usual suspects were pulled in. Completely valid interpretation, imo, if by that they mean something similar to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_Warhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Thirty_Years%27_Warbut I'm missing comparisons for our time for these:
>Major European conflicts during that period included the Balkan Wars (1912–13), World War I (1914–18), the Russian Civil War (1917–23), the Ukrainian–Soviet War (1917–21), the Polish–Soviet War (1919–21), the Spanish Civil War (1936–39) and World War II (1939–45)I'm telling you, israel/iran and ukro/rus wars aren't a prelude to anything connected to it, they are not "our time's" Balkan Wars. And currently the capitalists are facing a different kind of problem compared to WW1: the problem is not that the world has been divvied up between imperial powers and some were left out (Germany, Italy, Austria), the problem is that an entire bloc formerly with the strongest power on the world stage is crumbling uncontrollably and Russia/China just sits back and wait it out: SMO here, Belt and Road there, it's a waiting and persisting game as your enemy cannibalizes itself. Plus China completely integrated into the world economy, something the soviets never even dreamed of being allowed to do. Fucking western capitalists admit that they can't just disconnect from China. The old bloc is disintegrating BUT they are already integrated into the new bloc as non-prominent units.
I just really, really don't see the WW comparison here.
>>2342493>israel can continue terrorbombing whatever they like in Iran, but without a clear objective in mind, what exactly are they accomplishing?Of course, this is why I say they are very unlikely to actually win in the sense of accomplishing their objectives. They can throw a tantrum and kill a lot of innocent people, but they can't topple the Islamic Republic or destroy its nuclear program.
>Its hard to understand the israeli line of thinking here, they understood what they wanted to do (fordow) was impossible without the americans help, but they decided to go alone anyway?Most likely it was a combination of overestimating the effectiveness of their surprise attack and assuming it would completely paralyze the Iranians and possibly cause the Islamic Republic to collapse, and also the assumption that the Americans will join.
>If Iran has a black eye then Israel has a broken arm at this point in bringing danger to the israeli people who are simply not used to living in war and still won't be used to living in war in the months down the road. in my opinion the path of least resistance out of this conflict would be bibi's collapse and a change of leadership in israelMaybe but everything we say about Israeli bombing hardening Iranian resolve and causing people to rally behind the government applies to Israelis as well. Sure a substantial number will try to bail back to their home countries, but it won't be enough to cripple Israel's war effort or long term viability. This type of fighting isn't exactly manpower intensive anyways. However if it drags on too long it may lead to a change of leadership in Israel. A change of Israeli administration seems much more likely than a collapse of the entire Iranian government, which is what Bibi seems to have been banking on absent US intervention.
>>2342537Putin once said of Lenin "he was a revolutionary, not a statesman."
Well the inverse is true. Putin is a statesman, not a revolutionary. He will always value normal diplomatic ties with the nations of the world.
>>2342545what does Iran have to offer to russia though?
>>2342546send them to ukraine problem solved, also russia needs more people they would unironically benefit from their jewish population coming back
>>2342545eh, i don't see what breaking diplomatic ties would accomplish materially, even though i think it's the right thing to do
i hope Russia is or at least plans to clandestinely supply Iran with materiel, which is much more important
>>2342553>what does Iran have to offer to russia though?strategic security at the very least? if the islamic republic falls then the Caspian becomes a NATO inner sea, there emerges a land bridge for glowed islamists to travel between the middle east and central asia and a direct lifeline between NATO and Azerbaijan/Georgia (the former possibly annexing Iranian azeri lands into Greater Azerbaijan), it would be horrible
also Russia signed a strategic partnership deal with Iran and is building NPPs for them so there must be at least something material as well
>>2342492>>2342504>>2342505>>2342514>>2342519>>2342518>>2342517Yo guys, I have a question.
Suppose I convince my friend (military wife's boyfriend) to come here on leftypol and do an AMA. Would that interest you?
I know he said he doesn't want to talk about it, but I'll make him feel chill and he might.
>>2342593Chinese fucking love the Eiffel tower for some reason, so I suggest some reasons they built it
1) They wanted to for the sake of it
2) It's a practice for another replica somewhere
3) They want to copy some French terror attack response
4) They want to invite the French to train there maybe
I'm sure I remember they have some other replicas somewhere in China, maybe at smaller scale
>>2342545I would theorize that Russia has ties with Israel for the same reason China does: trade and technology.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/chinas-quiet-rapprochement-with-israel.html
>Throughout Israel’s military operations in Gaza, Beijing, like most national governments, has maintained steady trade relations with Tel Aviv. Chinese investors, like most investors worldwide, have continued to invest in Israeli firms. As the Israeli technology news website CTech reported in March, China’s new ambassador in Tel Aviv, Xiao Junzheng, is on a diplomatic mission to strengthen relations and expand business between the two countries:
<“China remains committed to developing our historical friendship with the Jewish people,” he continues, despite China’s historical support for Arab states in their wars against Israel. “The war continues, but the war is not the theme of Israel-China bilateral relations. For more than 33 years, China-Israel relations have withstood the test of history and always maintained stable development.”
>Indeed, China is Israel’s largest trading partner in Asia and its second-largest worldwide. According to China Customs, bilateral trade volume increased from approximately $8 billion in 2013 to $25.45 billion in 2022, before dropping to $14.5 billion in 2023. At the same time, in 2024, Israeli imports from China reached a record high of $13.53 billion – a nearly 20% increase from 2023. “Chinese companies in Israel have not evacuated or stopped their business. They have been sticking to their posts and fulfilling the contracts,” Xiao asserts.
>Chinese business interests in Israel, unsurprisingly, are largely tech-focused:
<In recent years, Israel-China relations have grown significantly, particularly in technology and trade. “We want to encourage more Chinese investors to come to Israel,” he notes. However, Chinese investors tend to favor later-stage companies, preferring to see technology’s maturity before committing capital. But the ambassador also has his eye on the other side of the equation:
<“At the same time, we want Israeli companies and investors to come to China. It’s a super market. The utility for cutting-edge high tech is the biggest advantage of the Chinese market.” >>2342617That's an AI.
>>2342609I guess that's a no. Alright sounds good. I will respect people's wishes.
>>2342618It couldn't have. I can't even fathom what the fuck they were smoking, the colonialist character of the project was encoded since the very beginning. Beforehand and traditionally, communists were allied with the Bundists over the Zionists.
I swear to God this was the one time Stalin acted out of humanism instead of class warfare, and the end result is a tragedy.
>>2342616China will practically never sanction you but recently if you piss them off enough your enemy becomes outfitted with some highly discounted Chinese equipment. That's how the MNDAA in Myanmar got a bunch of Chinese MRAPs after slavers massacred a hundred or so Chinese slaves and the secret police that was sent in to rescue them.
>>2342629It's a free, massive, wealthy, well educated population boost if Israel collapses, that might be how Putin views it
Not sure why you'd want millions of spoiled brat psychopaths in your country forever shitting up the politics of wherever they congregate like Florida 2.0 though
>>2342474DPRK also does this:
Pics are replica of the blue house.
>>2342658Honestly it's pretty bad for regime change efforts when even ~20 year old
possibly lesbian weeb chicks in Iran are supporting the government.
>>2342667>possibly lesbianI can tell you've never been to a Muslim country. Adult heterosexual girlfriends hold hands all the time. Muslims love the idea of having 2 bisexual wives who are into each other, btw, a common sexual fantasy among young men.
It's funny how due to polygamy lesbians/bi women get a pass, (for us seemingly) intimate expressions like two women holding hands are completely normalized (and actual lesbians benefit from this too), while muslims hate homosexual/bi men with a passion.
>>2342680homosexual men (especially bottoms) have ALWAYS been opposed more than lesbians
MTF trans have ALWAYS Been opposed more than FTM trans
this is because cishet moid culture is the foundation of military culture and men loving men and men becoming women is thought for some reason to interrupt this
>>2342676kinda getting incel-ish vibes from these
>army whorewivesstories, tbh. Like, what are you even trying to achieve here?
>>2342676Something tells me military people have to marry each other and serve in the vicinity of each other.
Something also tells me the idea of "women being bad luck on a ship" was probably invented by the wife's boyfriends.
>>2342680It's always been the case in homophobic societies that male homosexuality was always far more strictly policed and punished than female homosexuality. This was the case in the West too prior to the LGBT movement.
>>2342680>homosexual men (especially bottoms)This too. Even in pre-Christian antiquity it was never really stigmatized to engage in homosexual relations as along as you were a top. Bottoms would be stigmatized unless they were in a socially inferior position to the person fucking them like a slave, student, etc. If two men of equal social status were in a gay relationship then only the passive partner would be socially stigmatized.
>>2342687>homosexual men (especially bottoms) have ALWAYS been opposed more than lesbians>MTF trans have ALWAYS Been opposed more than FTM transSupposedly Iranian gov pushes homosexuals to become MTF trans. So MTF trans are more acceptable than homosexuals in Iran.
Or maybe that's just western propaganda, idk.
https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/world-war-iii-update
>Here is my prediciton… Donald Trump will change his mind at least three times in the next three days. Trump did nothing to calm fears that he has lost touch with reality when his press secretary, Ms. Leavitt, announced that Trump would make the decision on US participation in a war with Iran within two weeks, since there was still a chance for negotiations. That makes sense. The Zionist crowd in Washington and Tel Aviv are chirping that Iran is just a week away from building a nuke, so Trump wants to delay action until Iran has a nuke?
>This would be high comedy in a Monty Python sketch, but Trump is literally playing with nuclear fire. Some suggest he’s just doing his art-of-the-deal shtick, but creating uncertainty about his intent to start a new war with Iran strikes me as insane.
>Making matters worse is that CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, reportedly told colleagues he believes Iran is pursuing nuclear weapon capabilities. He compared the situation to football players at the 1-yard line attempting to score a touchdown. This is a complete betrayal of the intelligence community and an insult to Tulsi Gabbard. In March, when Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, briefed Congress that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, she presented the consensus judgment of the analysts from the CIA, the DIA, the NSA, Department of State Intelligence and Research, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. If the CIA did not agree with the briefing presented by Tulsi, Ratcliffe should have issued a written dissent. Tulsi then would have been obliged to inform the Congress that there was no agreement within the intelligence community about Iran and its progress on building a nuke. That did not happen. What we are seeing now is Ratcliffe pandering to Donald Trump and undermining the credibility of Tulsi Gabbard.
>Vladimir Putin made some news on Wednesday, while speaking to a group of foreign officials in Moscow, when he explained Russia had offered to sign a defense pact with Iran, but Iran declined to do so. According to Alastair Crooke, President Pezeshkian still held out hopes for improved relations with the West and believed that signing such an agreement would antagonize Washington. He now realizes he was foolishly naive. Putin has made it clear that it is prepared to help Iran defend itself by providing air-defense systems. I mistakenly believed that Russia provided some S-400 systems to Iran last October, but Putin said that was not the case. So far, according to Putin, Iran has made no request for additional assistance.
>China and Russia spoke on Thursday about the situation in Iran. Both leaders “strongly condemn[ed] Israel’s actions” against Iran, stating they violate the UN Charter and international law. They affirmed that the current crisis, including Iran’s nuclear program and recent strikes, “must be resolved exclusively through political and diplomatic means." Xi called on “major countries”—implicitly the U.S.—to step up diplomatic pressure for de-escalation, seek an immediate ceasefire, and ensure civilian evacuations. Both leaders agreed on mediation efforts, with Putin offering Russia as a mediator—a proposal Xi endorsed "as a means to de‑escalate"—though China’s own statement did not explicitly confirm this. Ushakov added that Putin and Xi will “keep in close contact in the coming days”, particularly as the situation evolves.
>But Russia and China are doing more than just talking. A senior Russian defense official arrived in Tehran earlier this week and met with Pezeshkian and his Iranian military counterparts. We have no readout on what they discussed. The Chinese, for their part, dispatched two ships — i.e., the PLA 815A and 855 Electronic Surveillance ships — to the Persian Gulf. 815A, for example, can track planes, missiles, guide missiles, and conduct electromagnetic interference and intelligence analysis. I do not believe that either country will remain passive observers if the US decides to launch an attack.
>Israel erupted in a flood of crocodile tears today, claiming that the dastardly Iranians bombed a hospital. Man, talk about chutzpah! The Soroka hospital was damaged by a blast wave from an Iranian missile that directly hit the adjacent “Israeli army’s Command and Intelligence headquarters, known as IDF C4I, along with a military intelligence facility located in the Gav-Yam Technology Park.” No one in the hospital was killed by the blast wave.
>This is a drop in the bucket compared to the carnage the Zionists have inflicted on Gaza. At least 36 hospitals in Gaza have been “bombed and burned” by Israeli military strikes since October 7, 2023. According to the UN Human Rights Office, between October 2023 and December 31, 2024, there were 136 confirmed attacks on 27 hospitals (plus 12 other medical facilities). The World Health Organization (WHO) reports that nearly 700 attacks on health care facilities occurred during this period—averaging about one hospital attack every 16 hours. Over 94% of all hospitals in Gaza are now damaged or destroyed, per UN statements. >>2342723An American general a decade or two ago talked about this topic exactly and how much of a nightmare fighting Iran would be, not only because they hide a ton of military infrastructure underneath mountains which would require an immense amount of bombs to get through to, if they even could, but the mountains also make a ground campaign a fucking nightmare.
Iran's topography is brutal. The US/Israel would basically have to entirely wage war by air, and even then that might not cut it if Iran plays it smart.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/19/trump-caution-on-iran-strike-linked-to-doubts-over-bunker-buster-bomb-officials-say
>Donald Trump has suggested to defense officials it would make sense for the US to launch strikes against Iran only if the so-called “bunker buster” bomb was guaranteed to destroy the critical uranium enrichment facility at Fordow, according to people familiar with the deliberations.
>Trump was told that dropping the GBU-57s, a 13.6-tonne (30,000lb) bomb would effectively eliminate Fordow but he does not appear to be fully convinced, the people said, and has held off authorizing strikes as he also awaits the possibility that the threat of US involvement would lead Iran to talks.
>The effectiveness of GBU-57s has been a topic of deep contention at the Pentagon since the start of Trump’s term, according to two defense officials who were briefed that perhaps only a tactical nuclear weapon could be capable of destroying Fordow because of how deeply it is located.
>Trump is not considering using a tactical nuclear weapon on Fordow and the possibility was not presented by defense secretary Pete Hegseth and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Gen Dan Caine in meetings in the White House situation room, two people familiar with the matter said.
>But the defense officials who received the briefing were told that using conventional bombs, even as part of a wider strike package of several GBU-57s, would not penetrate deep enough underground and that it would only do enough damage to collapse tunnels and bury it under rubble.
>The defense officials were also told that to completely destroy Fordow, which Israeli intelligence estimates to go down as far as 300ft, it would likely require the US to first soften the ground with conventional bombs and then ultimately drop a tactical nuclear weapon from a B2 bomber.
>The assessments were made by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), a component of the defense department that tested the GBU-57, as it reviewed the limitations of US military ordnance against a number of underground facilities.
>The situation underscores the complex nature of such a strike and what success would entail: dropping GBU-57s would likely set back Iran’s ability to obtain weapons-grade uranium for up to a few years, but not end the programme completely.
>Spokespeople for the White House and the Pentagon did not respond to requests for comment.
>Taking Fordow offline – either diplomatically or militarily – is seen as central to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) found the site had enriched uranium to 83.7% – close to the 90% needed for nuclear weapons.
>Any effort to destroy Fordow, would require US involvement because Israel does not possess the ordnance to strike a facility that deep or the planes to carry them.
>The difficulty with using the GBU-57 to target Fordow, according to the two officials familiar with the DTRA briefing, lies in part with the characteristics of the facility which is buried inside a mountain – and the fact that the bomb has never been used in a comparable situation before.
>“It would not be a one and done,” a former Dtra deputy director, retired Maj Gen Randy Manner, said of the GBU-57’s limitations, adding that Fordow could be quickly rebuilt. “It might set the program back six months to a year. It sounds good for TV but it’s not real.”
>The bomb is commonly known as a “bunker buster” because it was designed to destroy underground bunkers, but it can be carried only by a B2 bomber that has air superiority and requires a solid GPS signal to lock in on its target.
>While Israel has said it has established air superiority over Iran, a successful strike would still require any GPS jammers and other defenses to be taken out in advance, and for the GBU-57 to penetrate deep enough into the ground to neutralize the facility.
>Iran built the nuclear enrichment facility at Fordow underground to protect it from the threat of aerial attacks. In 1981, Israel bombed a nuclear facility near Baghdad that was located above ground in order to stop Iraq developing nuclear weapons.
>In recent years, Israel has devised a variety of plans to destroy Fordow without the help of the United States. In one instance, Israel proposed loading helicopters with commandos who could fight their way into the facility and blow it up – an option that Trump has dismissed, according to people familiar with the matter. >>2342742If you mean when he played as Iran in the wargames he stomped Israel and the US, you're correct. The winning percentages for US and Israel were legitimately grim and even the times the US won it was at such a hilariously high cost, it could never remotely be considered worth it.
I'm sure they've got some CIA funded thinktanks running wargames 24/7 right now in a full blown panic.
>>2342744Nobody is really 100% certain of the extent of Iran's AA capabilities, but just because of the way they're entrenched, they don't need the best AA anyways because the US would have to commit to spending hundreds and hundreds of billions, possibly more, to cause serious damage to their critical underground military infrastructure in the mountains.
>>2342588this is the part (>>2342267) where Putin talks about Iran. first video, original, no subs.
second, and third, subs, by DDG.
>>2342769No more Jews and Christians in our government
They constantly war monger for Israel.
>>2342771What you describe is, itself, a variation of said religions. Be more specific.
>>2342773If Jews are a singular race, the Israelis seem to divide their own race.
>>2342748Fuck.
Okay, let's say that Trump literally drops a tactical nuke on Fordo. What now?
>>2342803Miniscule amount. Exceptions are not the rule. They are fine.
A Jew or a Christian is going to have to first start they are not pro Israel. Since majority are
>>2342808If you want serve in government you should be made to renounce all metaphysics and religions and pledge your enteral soul to the position you’re running for. Or maybe we bring back ancestor worship but for public officials. Like if you become mayor there’s a mosoleum out back where you can pray to all the previous mayors of you’re local municipality.
>>2342305So has it already been one week since trump said two weeks? I knew he would TACO.
>>2342830Is that a body double?
He's not lookíng good
>>2342834>>2342830When Tel Aviv is ashes
he has my permission to die
>>2342392Insert classic meme about D.P.R. Koreans vs. U.S.ians at war & what their wives are doing.
Needless to say, I too am pleased about the whole story.
My only hope is that the husband in your story finds out and goes on a magnificent psychotic killing spree cleaning up his wife, her lover, their son and his superior officer to boot.
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NEW: Europe Backs U.S. Demand for “Zero Enrichment” in Nuclear Talks With Iran
French, German, and UK officials met today with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi in Geneva to present a sweeping diplomatic package—while backing the U.S.’s hardline demand that Iran halt all uranium enrichment.
➤ In a CNN interview, French Foreign Ministry spokesperson Christophe Lemoine confirmed that Europe is aligned with Washington on “zero enrichment” and outlined a proposal addressing Iran’s nuclear program, missile development, regional proxies, and humanitarian issues.
➤ Iran’s FM slammed the U.S. for skipping the meeting, calling it a “betrayal of diplomacy,” and urged the world to uphold international law and Palestinian rights.
➤ While framed as a starting point for future talks, many experts say “zero enrichment” is unrealistic and likely to derail negotiations. Most practical proposals cap enrichment at under 5%—enough for civilian energy, but far below weapons-grade levels.
➤ Europe is attempting to position itself as the key diplomatic bridge between Washington and Tehran, though no direct U.S.–Iran talks have been confirmed.
https://nitter.poast.org/DropSiteNews/status/1936177555834552796#m>>2342872>Europe is attempting to position itself as the key diplomatic bridge between Washington and TehranA continent sized glorified US-Tehran/Russia backchannel kek
Do Euro-peons really?
>>2342872 (me)
I'll be extremely disappointed if Iran concedes in any way regarding their nuclear program or military capability for the sake of peace talks with the Israel blob.
>>2342872Okay cool so they're gonna nuke Iran
Great, cool
>>2342903Western countries, and Anglos un particular, repress male friendship & solidarity so hard that the most banal expressions of it are treated as evidence of latent homoerotic desires.
Its like how they see decent streets in the DPRK that aren't a complete clusterfuck of ads, people noise, cars, etc. and find it "creepy".
I am done with her 100% this was the most power she ever had to shape narrative on this and she sold out fully. What a self serving disgrace. She had everything to stand up to this
What a disappointment
https://xcancel.com/DNIGabbard/status/1936174674595008517#m>>2342929Mullen, easily
Also, Nick Mullah
>>2342947you heard liberal russiagate, now listen to neocon russiagate omfg
>blatantly unrelated discussion about fucking retards like catboy fuentes or laura loomer and the party of leopard eating facesis nothing fucking happening, is israel not getting bombed to smithereeens
>>2342938You know, it's one thing for a country's foreign policy to be evil. But for a whole continent to be evil AND stupid, at the behest of America and fucking Israel, is a level of retardation that I didn't think we'd reach anytime soon.
I think most western countries have come to a collective realization: no one gives a shit about foreign policy, and even if they did, the cancerous capitalist hold on the political sphere means we're only going to get more and more brutal barbarism in the near future.
That said, what the fuck do these people think is going to happen when oil prices go through the roof after Iran mines the Strait of Hormuz? Europe is already struggling to replace Russia's role in its economy. If Israel is the tip of the spear of Empire, Europe is the sacrificial lamb, expected to bend over for American-Israeli interests.
How is the left so fucking weak in these countries? Why are Europeans so pathetic and servile towards a nation that blatantly does not have its interests - and survival - at heart?
>>2342963Sadr is a accused of being crypto-Ba'athist by IRGC kiddies for his Iraq first policy
Also when the US invasion happened all major Shia institutions including those closest to Iran advised against fighting the occupation but only Sadr did from the very beginning and he came out alive so his followers see him as hero unlike the other cucks. He won the last three elections but didn't agree to form government with those he deemed corrupt so IRGC kiddies took over. Kinda a smart since everyone hates the government and he still maintains soft power.
>>2342958when the AI generator makes you look like shit in the meme where you're supposed to be the chad
>Qatarlsonlol
>>2343018I hope they use a hypersonic bunkerbuster on all the shelters
Make the place of refuge their catacomb
TRUMP SAYS HE'S IN DANGER, IRAN IS TRYING TO KILL HIM:
https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/trump-warns-reporters-you-are-even-in-danger-from-iranian-retaliation-by-just-talking-to-me-right-now/https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/trump-warns-reporters-you-are-even-in-danger-from-iranian-retaliation-by-just-talking-to-me-right-now/“Are you worried Iran’s proxies would wage terror attacks against American targets abroad if you order military action?” asked a reporter.
“We’re always concerned about that, and we have to take them out and be very strong. You’re even in danger talking to me right now. Do you know that? You are in danger talking to me right now, so I should probably get out of here. But you guys are actually in danger. Can you believe it?” Trump replied.
>>2343036>>2343036>>2343041People say that putting a palestinian flag somewhere
Does nothing but if it makes one zio seeth its worth it
>>2343043>still nothingDamn history is slow. Keep forgetting that even Munich Agreement was signed on 30 September, 1938, and was violated only on 15 March, 1939.
Damn map games, warping my sense of time.
>>2343070its still better having weak flipflopping opportunist who contradict themselves immediately that is hated by everyone than having a hardline democrat who is opposed only by other hardline democrats virtue signaling on twitter. The prior DNI would 1000% do the job better
>>2343072yes
>>23430875 speed
PLZ 5 SPEED
>>2343125They think that black people have no contradiction with indigenous people.
Which really makes no sense when figures like Douglass were vocal about wanting as much native conquest as possible, and indigenous nations were some of the most resistant to the Union abolishing the CSA.
>>2343129>>2343128>>2343125>>2343110>>2343111Readsettlers.org
It will answer all your questions and combat the lies.
>>2343138The real struggle in the Anglosphere is one of racial struggle. Everyone within the Anglosphere should internalize this logic.
Boy I can't wait to live in the first ever Sakaiist Socialist Republic.
>>2343155Shit discussion lmao.
>The implication that New Afrikan Communists, regardless of Foster's supposed confidence in positive change, are any more susceptible to becoming a traitor to the movement due to outside forces Completely made up "implications." Many Black workers were induced to act as strikebreakers, for which Foster rightly criticizes them while also calling out the bosses for trying to engineer a split and the racist unions for alienating them.
>Why does Foster single out New Afrikans as having the onus of "resisting temptation" and conveniently stays quiet on the capacity of Euro-Amerikans to also betray the proletarian struggle?He doesn't, he expressly criticizes white labour for its racist attitudes and policies, calls it self destructive, and demands that they give Black workers equal treatment.
Foster's point in that chapter is that racial animosity is self-destructive to the working class, and that the racism of white workers is contrary to the interests of the proletarian movement. He calls on white unions to cease their racist practices and admit Black workers as full members, and for Black workers to not be duped into working against their own interests by the bosses. Sakai takes this and tries to say that Foster was actually saying Black workers needed to get in line beneath white workers or else they'd be lynched in a race war. It's fucking nonsense and fed shit.
>>2343167Pretty fucking bad. I also can't stand that smokeuptheweed mod, I've never seen someone be so consistently wrong, and the reddit completely bows to him and upvotes anything he posts.
I always assumed Communists were extremely rational, but the consistent misattribution of a non-existent argument that Foster wasn't even really making just to defend a book by a literal who (Sakai) that pretty severely bends, or misinterprets works of people like Foster in order to make their points proves otherwise.
There are some really good parts of Settlers, but theres also complete junk in that book and I'm not sure why supposed MLs suck it off so hard.
>>2343178lol i don't even remember what tulcel was filtered as
time flies by so fast
>>2343180>There are some really good parts of SettlersFor sure, the racist and class collaborationist tendencies of large segments of the white labour movement needed to be criticized. However its absolute insanity to extend these labels to the radical segment of the white worker's movement that was actively anti-racist and revolutionary at least since the days of the IWW. He deliberately lies to support the thesis that the
entire white worker's movement is racist and reactionary, not just the segments that actually were. It would he like pretending that the entire Black liberation movement were pro-capitalist chauvinist nationalists like the NOI or something.
>>2343194PFLP > Tudeh, though
>>2343195Put them on a shitty fishing boat or something. You're not being very GLApilled anon.
>>2343201It's a pretty common thing for socialists in one foreign country to support an organization/government that local socialists hate
PFLP gets funding/arms/training from Iran because Hamas regularly have a Sunni Moment so it's natural they like them
>>2343173With this hardware only usable under cover of night, and burger brain's need to time it to maximise the market closed time, the attack will come next Friday at the earliest.
Presumably the IRGC is prepared and not falling for the "negotiation" again
Impact in Tel Aviv around two hours ago.
>>2343212Motherfucker calm down I'm just reporting what's going on
>>2343230Not believing Israel is a
classic antisemitic canard
>>2343234>trying to throw off the zionist yoke is class collaborationTOTAL
AMERILEFTIST
DEATH
>>2343245Iran gov collapse would give us Iraq 2.0 which is civil war and new terror groups that will probably come from the refugees that leave the country en masse and start an heroing at the heart of empire taking a bunch of amerifats and bongs with them. Honestly whether Iran collapses or stays strong we win in the sense that a strong Iran is good for multipolarity and challenge of US hegemony and humiliation to Israel. A collapsed Iran is good for the fact that all that hatred that a civil war which will follow will lead to more terror attacks, and more dead Americans is always good. The war on terror has been a failure, and pushing Israel to civil war will continue that failure. Hopefully IF Iran does collapse, I’ll be praying for a terrorist Iranian to set off a dirty bomb that’ll spread radioactive particles all over the place.
Honestly wouldn’t it be funny and ironic that a nuke or dirty bomb is set off in America AFTER the toppling of Iran? All the scaremongering of Iran having nukes and now with a collapsed Iran in civil war leading to terrorist attacks using dirty bombs will be funny as fuck.
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