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>>2350642 >>2353807>SyzpulaWhy are PolacKKKs like this man
These people would've been hunted by the Klan a century ago
NGL i'm a bit salty at Mamdani getting elected too but thankfully i'm not racist enough to sperg about it in public
>>2353825are there any people in the comments of these going
>BASED BASED BASEDor is it all a tard-wing circlejerk?
im just happy anytime people in NY are feeling unsafe
>>2353867>sympathies for the communist movementvibes and aura farming
>>2353880They have everything to do with the class struggle. Despite your irrational nihilism, the youth
WILL pave the way for communist society.
>>2353867>>2353896>communism is near!!!!!!!!!<some random socdem got electedlol still convinced leftypol is at its most retarded during election time
inb4 some polsci lib shit about "shifting to the left"
>>2353894Detail why you would even think this
>>2353896>It's not a nationwide thing yetIt already is
>I have some relatives living inNo one cares. The youth is secured.
>>2353897This is heavy denial bro. How tf do you think calling an elected politician a literal African (Ugandan) Communist less racist than just calling him a Pajeet
The only reason they dont do so is because there are many Indians in MAGAworld. I wished they would've done so because it would force Jeets to forego religion and unite for once
>>2353918Trvke
Reddit atheists here would deny it but Muslims are the only reliably anti imperialist block in the US
As a Christian this is good for our perspective too because it will finally break the decadent liberal secularist status quo and bring religion back to the forefront of the political, critical support
>>2353916>I know you're just shitpostingNot really
>but I remember leftypol sperging out about Zoomies being more conservative than previous generationsThat was just liberal coping and alt right propaganda both based on misread data seeping in again. It was nothing to worry about.
>>2353925Yet another placid reddit atheist attack on religious people.
This is why i prefer Muslims over redditheists they unironically respect our religious views more than atheists who just fling shit about monke grandparents and placid capitalist liberal individualism
>>2353934What the hell has reddit atheists done for class emancipation? The only thing these guys have accomplished are soyjakking over based epic polycules and gay sex and other individual preferences that is completely compatible with our dissolute capitalist world
Contrast this with Hamas or even the Muslim Brotherhood in Turkey. Hell the fucking Hindutvas accomplish more and they have the theoretical sophistication of Poltards
Do you know what i want? I want a Christian Hamas. I want a Christian Hezbollah. An anti imperialist spiritual revolution to rejuvenate Christendom. And despite my deep theological disagreements with Muslims dudes like Shadi Hamid and other Muslims in Dime Square are one of the few people left outside of my own Tradcath circle to truly share my perspective
>>2353850ballotcels will keep falling for it again
bulletchads stay winning
>>2353933you could have said something sensible like "most religious people these days actually accept evolution and know the earth is more than 6000 years old" but instead you took a simple statement as an "attack" on religious people.
Religion is an attack on religious people by the ruling class. It is a drug to lull them back to sleep.
>>2353939>What the hell has reddit atheists done for class emancipation?done more than any christian will ever do, by destroying the value of religion they are destroying the cudgel used against communism, as religion and communism are like bleach and ammonia, they cannot work and this has been recognized since the 1840s,
>Do you know what i want? I want a Christian Hamas. I want a Christian Hezbollahyou already got it, it's called the US military and christian misisonaries in africa and other regions as well, christianity is the most imperialist religion in history, what other religion has colonized 5 continents? what other religion has perpetrated as much genocide as christianity? my entire people (i am from australia) were nearly destroyed due to christian missionaries, and this is true for various groups as well, i fucking hate you all for that reason alone
>>2353947Yes yes, i've read Philosophy of Right. Religion is the sight of the oppressed creature etc etc
Well look around you my brethren. We have no religion in the US. Instead we have gay sex and epic polycules and situationships and unironic widespread fentanyl addiction. Still no revolution. Meanwhile all the actual political struggles happened in the parts of the world precisely where religion is integrated into the political, be it from a reactionary position (Hindutva and Evangalicals) or a revolutionary one (Hamas and Sandinistas)
>>2353931>What Muslim country do you prefer to live in, Jessica?Well if you prefer Eric Adams that puts you on the same side as the Turkish government lel
>>2353933>Yet another placid reddit atheist attack on religious people.>>2353939>The only thing these guys have accomplished are soyjakking over based epic polycules and gay sex and other individual preferences that is completely compatible with our dissolute capitalist worldI'm an atheist because I don't believe in the existence of God or Gods. But one thing Charlie Kirk and the radical Islamists he hates so much agree on, is that Islam is incompatible with secularism and democracy. Maybe calling him their mirror image is overstating it, but they at least agree on that one point. Or that there's something about Islam that differentiates itself from other religions. I don't think Islam is that different from other religions.
It's true that many Muslim countries have lagged behind the West in terms of the advance of secularism. But in fact, the broad trend is still towards secularization and the retreat of religion to private life. I mean it's not exactly a big part of Mamdani's campaign. He's more Halal-ish than full Halal. But that's going on in Islamic countries too. When you think more deeply about it, Islamism is a radical reaction to those changes and is an attempt to restore something that has been lost.
Look at Iran. The Shia clerics would like to run everything like one big seminary, and they try. But they also have a republican form of government (although they had been against it) with elections, a constitution, a parliament, and other imported institutions that came from modern Europe. Islam is something that develops historically. You can make fun of gay sex being perfectly compatible with capitalism (and it is), but so is Islam. Islam has accepted and adapted to various forms of social, political and economic organization – tribal, agrarian, urban, imperial, slave, mercantilist, modern industrial, nation-state, and so on.
Okay it's not guaranteed to do this. Whether Muslims adapt to secularism and democracy is going to be a choice by Muslims. You can't impose it on them. It's their choices and decisions that will carry the day, and it may or may not come about, but there have been movements to do this. Notably Turkey which had a secularist leader named Kemal Ataturk. But the conditions were more suitable to engage in these reforms at that time and place, being the center of the empire and the point of strength to establish modern state institutions in comparison to the Arab periphery.
>>2353965Well, i appreciate your response. Let it be known that although i think that homosexuality as it exists is harmful to virtuous human prospering i am against any criminalization much less abuse of human sexuality of civilians (as opposed to government employees who should reflect the moral ethos of the people)
And yes, religions do change. Superstructure and base, right? I am not denying this. Nor do i deny that the Middle East might be secularized in the near future. My point is that this is not exactly good for use. Because we have seen secularisms being practiced throughout the world, and a lot of times it just result in individualistic technocracies who assume itself to be standing above the political (see Attaturk's Turkey and India's Nehru)
But ofc we know that these technocracies are anything BUT apolitical. They are the tools of capital. But the reason they appeared to be above politics is because it is a transportation of the ideology of scientism (there is only one correct science which we can prove by the scientific method) into the realm of the politics (there is only one correct method of running a country and that is by consulting researches done by bourgeois economists)
There is a reason the soyence meme exists and its because soyence is by nature authoritarian and intolerant yet pretend to be impartial
This is where the return of the sacred opens the potential to revolution. Because the introduction of Divinity debunks the sterile narratives of capitalist scientism and openly states that there are more to this life, more things worth fighting for, than just what the status quo technocrats tell you to.
And these "things" are not just individualist civic rights like the right to have sex in a certain way, which of course capitalists would support to maximize consumption, but rather a deeper and more irrational urge for which people would risk their life for. And i think that is the beauty of religion.
>>2353970It was a time when their respective societies were Christian and Islamic, in which people couldn't freely choose what they wanted to believe. When freedom of conscience and belief were smothered under oppressive regimes. The Islamists want to restore that, and they saw an opportunity to try in the wake of failure of leftist movements.
>>2353974>Because the introduction of Divinity debunks the sterile narratives of capitalist scientism and openly states that there are more to this life, more things worth fighting for, than just what the status quo technocrats tell you to.Well I think this life is all there is, but this also contributes to my main point of contention with New Atheists who seem to think that religion is almost a force that's external to human beings. They talk like religion is something that descended on this world from some other world and made the things they don't like happen. I'm not religious and think it's ultimately nonsense, but ultimately, it's people who came up with religion. Where else would it come? It'd have to come from God and I don't believe in God. It's people who called themselves Christians and worshipped the Christian God and Jesus Christ "who raped and pillaged the world" as the other anon said. I'm not making one of these apologetic arguments that they weren't "real Christians." They were. I'm just saying it was people who were doing all of this, and it was people who came up with religion as a thing to structure their lives.
>And these "things" are not just individualist civic rights like the right to have sex in a certain way, which of course capitalists would support to maximize consumption, but rather a deeper and more irrational urge for which people would risk their life for. And i think that is the beauty of religion.Religion has certainly contributed to art and literature and music. I'm not one of these atheists who'd press the religion-eraser button. I don't think the core issue is about matters of sex, though. That might be a second-order deal that comes with secularism. I have some Enlightenment-era stuff in my mix that holds secularism as related to the advance of rationality, critical thought, and the scientific method. The advance of capitalism is also not dependent on whether it's morally better, but because it's superior to what it replaced in a competitive struggle.
So yes, Ataturk's Turkey was authoritarian. Okay you have an Islamist party governing Turkey now and I'm not trying to ride or die with the Turkish state (although they were bribing Eric Adams!). But that had an impact on the society and contributed to what it is today, which is way stronger than any other Muslim country in its neighborhood. It's not a contest. They manufacture their own fighter jets (okay under a license from the U.S.) and they have an industrialized economy.
That's ultimately why secularism is going to win out over the long term. You can't build ballistic missiles if you insist dogmatically that the earth is flat based on an interpretation of ancient religious texts.
>>2354016I like veggietales, and i think the creator is an admirable person who stands up against racism and nationalism.
But yes, there are still many people in the US who are for lack of a better term "a Bible thumper". But religion is simply not in the zeitgeist anymore, in comparison to actually religious countries like Pakistan or India where religions do permeate all aspect of life and is not just the realm of some fringe and outsized extremists. It is a hegemony in the Gramscian sense
>>2354032Yeah, Armenians and Greeks also. Religious minorities usually serve as urban intermediaries everywhere.
I've never read that book. Sounds very interesting
>>2354045>1That's rather vague
>2Their rules only apply to dealing with other Jews. They only give free loans to Jews.
>>2354114I’m not sure that was the hardest part.
They will probably try to really ratfuck him. They unloaded so much on him already I don’t know how they can walk back the Jew-hater label and such. And the open racism. It could get really intense. This may be a nationwide political issue all the way until the election.
>>2354185zios seethed, simple as
>inb4 NO BUT YOU-shhhh
>>2354199they're just using hyperbole to advance their own interests
exactly the same thing as western "leftists" pretending to be in the struggle while actually just engaging in mainstream politics to advance their middle class and petite bourg interests (canvasing for a mayor)
>>2354185His platform really is progressive but not proletarian at all. The bourgeoisie would be most wise to support him.
>State owned marketsCheaper means of subsistence increases production of surplus-value.
>Rent freezeLandlords stand in opposition to production of surplus-value.
>Free busesReduced transportation costs increases production of surplus-value.
>Raise minimum wage to 30$ by 2030 (*After that*), the minimum wage will automatically increase based on the cost of living and productivity increases. Basically a priest promising workers they will be OK in the afterlife.
>New York is the greatest city in the world, but the people who make it so are being priced out. That includes small business owners, who account for over 90 percent of all firms in the city and who employ nearly half of all New Yorkers within the private sector. But too many mom-and-pops are forced to close because keeping a business open costs too much and navigating our bureaucracy is too difficult. That costs New Yorkers their jobs, small business owners their dreams, and our city the places that give it character.>Zohran will make it faster, easier, and cheaper to start and run a business in New York City, so that bodegas and corner stores stay open and dollar slices come back. He will cut small business fines in half, speed up permitting and make online applications easier, and increase funding for 1:1 small business support by 500 percent. And he’ll appoint a Mom-and-Pop Czar to make sure it happens.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wuZ-s8VnnAHqHhqtHESwgzINiN7D95vy/viewhttps://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform >>2354185>>2354206Once again you FUCKING ultras running your mouths with braindead dribble. Stop acting like your "takes" are anything but a spattering of random Bourdigist word cloud slop.
You are the bane of actual progress. Fuck off forever.
>>2354046he's not even in power yet when this happens.
but still based
>>2354202Their tears are insufficient.
>>2354213The succdem is insufficient. But I am patient enough to understand that much greater things will be achieved very soon thanks to the increasingly escalating contradictions around us. I do not fear a reformist resurgence because the reformist movement will not survive the close and upcoming escalations that are to come.
>>2354247The hypothetical is pointless
>>2354246“Centrists” got too cocky again and pissed too many people off
>We have seen above, that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.
>The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as rapidly as possible.
>Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.
>These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
>Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
<1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
<2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
<3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
<4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
<5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
<6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
<7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
<8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
<9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
<10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
>>2354251>Unlike the anarchists, the Marxists recognise struggle for reforms, i.e., for measures that improve the conditions of the working people without destroying the power of the ruling class. At the same time, however, the Marxists wage a most resolute struggle against the reformists, who, directly or indirectly, restrict the aims and activities of the working class to the winning of reforms. Reformism is bourgeois deception of the workers, who, despite individual improvements, will always remain wage-slaves, as long as there is the domination of capital.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1908/apr/03.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ >>2354243Portland.
>>2354269Capitalist propaganda where being bourgeoisie means being inherently good, American propaganda about minorities reaching the American Dream, racist religion saying they are better than everyone else, Christian Ziofreaks blowing smoke up their ass and being pandered to by politicians from both major parties for decades.
>>2354289Who's the guy on the bottom left and who are the two fat faced guys on the upper right?
>>2354293Would they need to? Just use lawfare to stop all the good policies, drum up some fake scandals, sabotage the local economy and smear his character until he loses the next election.
>>2354319>some “random” Zionist Jew tries to kill Zohran.Way more likely to be some goy right-wing schizo.
>because the assassination of a popular mayor will cause hell to be unleashed.When has the murder of a mayor ever unleashed hell? Milk being killed didn't do anything.
>>2354325>why do you think socialism is about ideas?Why can't ultras understand people need some direction and they won't spontaneously organize a communist society out of nowhere?
>>2354336You seem to think people will just magically become communist through doing absolutely nothing. This is ultra thinking or just purposefully wrecker bullshit.
>>2354338>Communism is the real movement which restores dignity to the working class. And what is your plan to do that?
>electoralismMarx and Lenin were perfectly fine using bourgeoisie elections to organize the working class. Yet you insist we can't for some reason…
>>2354364Why are you pivoting to something completely unrelated?
>Hitler was a religious socialist No he was not, he was a fascist
I fucking hate New York City. I don't give a fuck. I hate motherfuckers from Brooklyn. I hate motherfuckers from Manhattan. I hate motherfuckers from whatever fucking borough it is. I don't give a fuck. I hate rich fucking motherfuckers. You know what the—you know what the fucking New York City has given us? Every shitty fucking podcast, the entirety of the left, are rich, upper-crust, New York City faggots, and I can't stand any of them. I really cannot stand any of these fucking podcasters, these Red Scare Pod—I'm a dirtbag leftist, but you come from money, motherfucking stupid-ass fucking faggots, shit like that, can't fucking stand it. If it was up to me, the entirety of New York City should just be its own fucking place, separate from America, bro. Fuck America. Fuck—fuck New York City, bro can't stand any of these fucking coastal elite fucking cities, bro. I would never set foot in fucking New York, Los Angeles, Seattle. These places are not fit for fucking people like me. They're not fit for real motherfuckers.
>>2354380>I fucking hate New York City. I don't give a fuck. I hate motherfuckers from Brooklyn. I hate motherfuckers from Manhattan. I hate motherfuckers from whatever fucking borough it is. I don't give a fuck. I hate rich fucking motherfuckers. You know what the—you know what the fucking New York City has given us? Every shitty fucking podcast, the entirety of the left, are rich, upper-crust, New York City faggots, and I can't stand any of them. I really cannot stand any of these fucking podcasters, these Red Scare Pod—I'm a dirtbag leftist, but you come from money, motherfucking stupid-ass fucking faggots, shit like that, can't fucking stand it. If it was up to me, the entirety of New York City should just be its own fucking place, separate from America, bro. Fuck America. Fuck—fuck New York City, bro can't stand any of these fucking coastal elite fucking cities, bro. I would never set foot in fucking New York, Los Angeles, Seattle. These places are not fit for fucking people like me. They're not fit for real motherfuckers. Maybe I'm just jaded as fuck, but you know what my thoughts are? It was confirmed last night that Israel has killed 400,000 Palestinians, 59% of them being women, children, and elderly, and on every fucking feed, on every single feed, I don't see this. I don't see that. What I do see is, hey, there was a good result in the pre-election for the election, and we might get a socialist to win. I love the spectacle, dawg. I don't give a fuck about electoralism at all. At all. I really do not care. Like, this must be how I sound. I get it. I understand that it's a victory. I'm not saying that it's bad that he won, but half a million Palestinians are dead, and this motherfucker winning isn't going to change that. And if you think that it is, you're out of your fucking gourd. So ask yourself, who do you vote for right now to go stop the rest of the Palestinians from being killed? Because in three years, four years' time, that'll be what happens. They'll all be fucking dead. They'll have successfully completed the genocide. Yeah, well, the mayor of New York's a socialist. I don't fucking care, bro. I don't give a fuck! I don't give a fuck!
>>2354403>2000 years of life experiencelmao
Not only is that not what "life experience" means (unless somebody is beating Methusela's high score), Judaism is way older than that. 2000 years is the age of Christianity. Judaism proper goes back about 2500 years, and Yahwism goes back 3000 (which is more in line with the Jewish view of the religion's history).
>>2354394I getchu Anon, after almost 2 years of watching the reality of the world system unfold on your phone screen it becomes difficult to give a fuck. It's also not something you have to get worked up about tho, it's just a minor progressive victory in the burgerreich, things are bleak, so let people celebrate this victory, even if it is so minor and pointless.
Also it makes zionists seethe and you should derrive pleasure from that. Think of it like those vids where ziorats get blown up and cooked in their tanks by brave resistance soldiers, while in the grand scheme of things it's not major, but it's just another little minor cut at the apartheid state. Think of how much it pains zionazis to lose any ground whatsoever, use that as fuel for further action
>>2354387Third worldism is shit analysis and your pathetic whining ("criticism") doesn't change that.
>>2354407Maybe he put it at 2000 years because before they got btfo by larger regional powers Judaism was a slaving, genocidal religion bent on the conquest of Canaan.
>>2354433actually he will. Also he hasn’t won.
Honestly the only one betraying the working class here are total faghots who whine endlessly about electoral politics delivering victories while all the do as an alternative is deliver massive shit spraying diarrhea farts directly into everyone’s mouth constantly. If you think revolution would be better than do one moron. Or right your maximum form of praxis is posting on an image board and attacking candidate for mayor as a traitor. By the way, freezing rents and making the city bus free is actually well within the mayors remit. maybe the reason you get so mad about winning elections is that it discredits your gay as LARP and shows that we can actually win and get the things we want?
>>2354444>An inflated membership?I speak of the unions
>That may change soon.I doubt it
>>2354449>actually he willHe won’t.
>Also he hasn’t won.His competition is trash
I will not be reading the word vomit you just spewed.
>>2354455based
like anyone who actually thinks this Zohran grifter is going to effect meaningful change is a fucking retard and needs to read basic Marx
>>2354481Unsuccessfully
>>2354483Okay fed
>>2354481As someone thoroly
see familiar with socialist politics in the 1910s I am unaware of that, tell us more
>>2354481t. thinks AOC and Bernie Sanders are "socialists"
>>2354484sure but it's going to be even worse: he's a bourgeois grifter that will make things worse and it fucking kills me that so many "leftists" in America in America and even ITT are going to receive "Fell for it again" awards for falling for yet another grifting cunt
>>2354483>>2354487>muhhhh FEDnot an argument
>>2354486yeah that's why USA is a socialist country now, those socialist mayors sure did a lot.
>>2354490truthnvke
>>2354495No one is saying this
>>2354499Your not getting free buses
>>2354493I don't care if someone makes Zionists feel unsafe
Actually I'm happy if someone makes Zionists feel unsafe
>>2354498if we were actually going to instill socialism in this country or whatever, it would be done through mass organization in a vanguard worker's party, not by voting for some meme succ-dem grifter in one of the most "left-wing" cities in the country. We already have many "left-wing" mayors in the USA and time and time again they show their true colors and kneel for capital while pushing inane identity politics to placate retards who have read zero theory.
it's fucking embarrassing that a supposed "left-wing" website has the same fucking political analysis as /r/politics and fawns over a fucking milquetoast succ-dem. Next you all will be posting John Oliver and Colbert clips ITT unironically. Fucking christ.
>>2354509Eat my shorts bitteroid
At least Zohran might slow down gentrification which means I can stave off homelessness for another five years
>>2354493>No he won't actually do anything against Jewish people, but we still *feel* like we should be scared, and people don't care we feel scared for no reason >This is a tragedy These people are so unserious man, this reads like a parody
Maybe it is lmao
>>2354478Americans are impatient, they want communism now and don’t want to do the work and most importantly are afraid of the failures along the way that comes with that work. Communism was crushed in America post 90s. Utterly defeated, reduced to a slur word and thought of as a dead radical ideology responsible for gajillion deaths. The propaganda didn’t stop after this crushing defeat, it continues to this day and is more libelous than ever, being delivered to the working class daily right into their pockets.
And yet a scant few decades later we’re back in the mainstream and the working class is starting to grasp for the power that should be there’s. Will there be disappointments, Revisionist, Betrayal, and future humiliations? Yes. Does that mean we stop? No, each attempt, every election, every new union formed, every successful strike, new co-op, party or militia formed is another wave crashing into the machinery of capital and eroding it away.
>>2354525Zohran will arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NYC though :(
right guys??
>>2354481>>2354488 (me)
>>2354494 (me)
I just checked my notes, and I actually was able to find the first "socialist to run as a democratic candidate": George R. Lunn. The reason he had to run as a Democrat was because he refused to carry out the Socialist Party program and was expelled (from what I remember reading). Real great example there.
The DSA needs to do the same thing with Mamdani by the way if he ends up cucking out to Democrat corruption or the "antisemitism" smear campaign: elected officials need to obey the democratic will of socialist activists, not expect socialist activists to obey the whims of the Democrat establishment.
>>2354521>Americans are impatient>muh slow, liberal, incremental progress >Does that mean we stop?Yes AOC, we will stop with the reformism. We will stop with the liberal games. And we will stop with the “succdem” nonsense. We will do what should have been done a long time ago, and fully abandon the systems the liberals have forced us into.
>militiaGet your goofy reformist ass outta here.
>>2354535No, just providing political analysis based on solid understanding of Marx and a firm foundation in reality. Someone has to pull your heads out of the sand.
>>2354533>>2354538truthnvkes
>>2354537cope
>>2354540I never said, if that's what your getting from my posts then you need to read more theory
>>2354547I'm not calling for ideological purity retard, just pointing out that electing capitalist grifters will get you nowhere
>>2354549this HAS to be a troll post
>>2354553>muh purity testsOkay liberal
>>2354554 Take advantage of the increasing contradictions like any proper communist should, and not be a liberal reformist schmuck like you.
>>2354532Unfortunately, FedAnon is right. Americans (and western countries more generally) will never have a party of the proletariat because it's a fundamentally petit bourgeois country. 2/3rds of the country is propertied.
Until huge swathes of the middle class are unpropertied, the US will always drift towards bourgeois policy.
>>2354556read
>>2354560 who just dropped a truthnvke
material changes and amercian values/education will have to drastically change before we can even begin to build a real movement.
>>2354557BASED
>>2354591He won but until november it doesn't mean shit.
This will be 5 months of republicans fearmongering that Zohran is StalinMaoHitlerHamas for wanting rent to be affordable.
>>2354559It doesn’t matter what I do quite frankly because at the end of the day, you do worse than nothing. You uplift and give consent to liberal systems that uphold capital, despite showing zero success from these efforts. All you can say is that you have given one guy influence and some power in a system you are supposedly trying to dismantle. And considering your track record, he is just going to fuck you over again. You wasted everyone’s time and energy for more liberal bullshit.
You know what I do? I build outside power. I build dissent. I take advantage of the contradictions and use it to build outside power. I don’t participate in systems that are obviously designed to lock me up. You only perpetuate a bourgeoisie trap that has repeatedly resulted in failure for the communist movement.
>>2354563No
>>2354566>In till then the succdems are running circles around whatever you claim to be.Running circles? No, they’re just on their honeymoon period, that’s all. Give it a bit more time, and they’ll quickly run out of track.
>>2354382The one that works
>>2354387>golden billionRussia is an european empire
>>2354571im not talented
someone has to make this à la picrel lol
>>2354642natural gem from south africa
>>2354646synthetic gem from india
A White Nationalist Wrote a Law School Paper Promoting Racist Views. It Won Him an Award.>The University of Florida student won an academic honor after he argued in a paper that the Constitution applies only to white people. From there, the situation spiraled.Preston Damsky is a law student at the University of Florida. He is also a white nationalist and antisemite. Last fall, he took a seminar taught by a federal judge on “originalism,” the legal theory favored by many conservatives that seeks to interpret the Constitution based on its meaning when it was adopted.
In his capstone paper for the class, Mr. Damsky argued that the framers had intended for the phrase “We the People,” in the Constitution’s preamble, to refer exclusively to white people. From there, he argued for the removal of voting rights protections for nonwhites, and for the issuance of shoot-to-kill orders against “criminal infiltrators at the border.”
Turning over the country to “a nonwhite majority,” Mr. Damsky wrote, would constitute a “terrible crime.” White people, he warned, “cannot be expected to meekly swallow this demographic assault on their sovereignty.”
At the end of the semester, Mr. Damsky, 29, was given the “book award,” which designated him as the best student in the class. According to the syllabus, the capstone counted the most toward final grades.
The Trump-nominated judge who taught the class, John L. Badalamenti, declined to comment for this article, and does not appear to have publicly discussed why he chose Mr. Damsky for the award.
That left some students and faculty members at the law school, considered Florida’s most prestigious, to wonder, and to worry: What merit could the judge have seen in it?
The granting of the award set off months of turmoil on the law school campus. Its interim dean, Merritt McAlister, defended the decision earlier this year, citing Mr. Damsky’s free speech rights and arguing that professors must not engage in “viewpoint discrimination.”
Ms. McAlister, in an email to the law school community, also invoked “institutional neutrality,” an increasingly popular policy among college administrators. It instructs schools not to take public positions on hot-button issues.
But the question of how officials should respond to Mr. Damsky — who, in an interview, said that referring to him as a Nazi “would not be manifestly wrong” — is not merely academic.
At the University of Florida, the story of the book award took a dramatic turn soon after Ms. McAlister defended the decision to honor Mr. Damsky with it. It was then, in February, that Mr. Damsky opened an account on X and began posting racist and antisemitic messages. After he wrote in late March that Jews must be “abolished by any means necessary,” the university suspended him, barred him from campus and stepped up police patrols around the law school. He is now challenging the punishment, which could result in his expulsion.
Mr. Damsky’s hateful posts drew shock and fear in some corners of the university. According to Hillel International, the university has the largest number of Jewish undergraduate students in the country. Its student body is 48 percent white, 22 percent Hispanic, 10 percent Asian and 5 percent Black, according to school data.
In an interview, Mr. Damsky said that he belonged to no organization or group, and that he did not pose a physical threat to anyone. He said he was being unfairly targeted for sharing his ideas, and blithely shrugged off the criticism. The disciplinary measures he faces could result in expulsion. He said he planned to fight them vigorously.
“You know,” he said, “I’m not, like, a psychopathic ax murderer.”
Many law students learned about his extremism last fall, when a draft of a paper he wrote for a different class was passed among students and faculty members. Mr. Damsky, who just completed his second year of law school, assumes that a fellow student shared it with others. Like his paper for the originalism seminar, it also argued the Constitution was written exclusively for white people. It went on to suggest that nonwhites should be stripped of voting rights and given 10 years to move to another country.
As the spring semester got underway, word spread that Mr. Damsky had won the book award in Judge Badalamenti’s originalism seminar.
Mr. Damsky’s paper includes arguments similar to those recently adopted by the Trump administration, including a call to “reconsider” birthright citizenship, and an assertion that “aliens remain second-class persons under the Constitution.”
It also argues that courts should challenge the constitutionality of the 14th Amendment, which ensures birthright citizenship, due process and equal protection under the law, and the 15th Amendment, which protects the right to vote for nonwhite citizens.
Mr. Damsky concluded the paper by raising the specter of revolutionary action if the steps he recommended toward forging a white ethno-state were not taken. “The People cannot be expected to meekly swallow this demographic assault on their sovereignty,” he wrote, adding that if the courts did not act to ensure a white country, the matter would be decided “not by the careful balance of Justitia’s scales, but by the gruesome slashing of her sword.”
Mr. Damsky’s argument that at least some of the framers meant for the Constitution to apply only to white people is by no means a new one. Evan D. Bernick, an associate law professor at Northern Illinois University, notes that the argument can be found in the Ku Klux Klan’s founding organizational documents from the late 1860s.
Among originalists, though, this interpretation has been widely rejected. Instead, conservatives have argued that much of the text of the Constitution “tilts toward liberty” for all, said Jonathan Gienapp, an associate professor of history and law at Stanford. They also note that the post-Civil War amendments guaranteeing rights to nonwhite people “washed away whatever racial taint” there was in the original document.
While Mr. Damsky’s papers were written in a formal style consistent with legal scholarship, his social media posts have been blunt, crass and ugly. A critic of Israel’s war in Gaza, he argued in one post that President Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio were “controlled by Jews,” whom he called “the common enemy of humanity.” In posts about Guatemalan illegal immigrants, he said that “invaders” should be “done away with by any means necessary.” He lamented the “self-flagellatory mind-set” of modern-day Germans, noting their failure to revere Hitler.
Judge Badalamenti, who sits on the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida, was one of two instructors of the class in which Mr. Damsky won the award. A member of the conservative Federalist Society, he has earned praise from both liberals and conservatives over the course of his career. The class was co-taught by Ashley Grabowski, a lawyer and Federal District Court clerk who, like the judge, is an adjunct professor at the law school.
Students took their complaints to Ms. McAlister, the interim dean. She addressed the granting of the award to Mr. Damsky in at least two town-hall-style meetings, according to an email she wrote to students and an article in The Independent Florida Alligator, the student newspaper. In the February email, the dean wrote that the law school, as a public institution, was bound by the First and 14th Amendments, meaning that no faculty member may “grade down a paper that is otherwise successful simply because he or she disagrees with the ideas the paper advances.”
Institutional neutrality, she wrote in her email, “is not agreement or complicity with the ideas that any community member advances.”
“It’s just that — neutrality,” she added. “The government — in this case, our public university — stays out of picking sides, so that, through the marketplace of ideas, you can debate and arrive at truth for yourself and for the community.”
A number of students disagree, but several declined to be interviewed on the record for fear that criticizing the school, or a sitting federal judge, would harm their future job prospects.
One former student, who graduated in May, had his post-graduation job offer rescinded by a large law firm when he told them he had spoken to The New York Times for this article, criticizing Mr. Damsky’s paper and Judge Badalamenti for granting him the award. The student asked not to be identified for fear of jeopardizing other job offers.
Before his suspension, Mr. Damsky had been offered a summer internship in the local prosecutor’s office. But in early April, the prosecutor, Brian Kramer, the state attorney for the Eighth Judicial Circuit of Florida, rescinded the offer.
“You could imagine,” Mr. Kramer said in an interview, that “having someone in your office who espouses those kinds of beliefs would cause significant mistrust in the fairness of prosecutions.”
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<there are no pics of this bitch on the internet apparently can you believe that crap? >>2354668There is no “American socialist movement” see
>>2354584There is fundamentally no basis for Americans to accept socialism because it would require them to give up their luxuries that they take for granted
>>2354673zohran literally just declared protracted peoples war against the reactionary holdouts in new jersey
keep up, chud
>>2354633yeah, well, foots on earth.
it's ok I guess to not be "not fun allowed" guy.
>>2354678I will see you signing the "i've been bamboozled for the demokkkrat candidate for the nth time" form.
remember: no refunds.
>>2354685I agree, but don't stop asking for more, and that nothing has changed until it actually changes.
>>2354730why would a trot
nevermind
>>2354727Fallacy fallacy
>>2354734But let me guess, you think the DSA has revolutionary potential, correct?
>>2354758so true bestie
we need someone who isn't such a big meanie to the isreals
>>2354728>be angryI would never. I love to milk the memes of failed succdems. like, look at these delicious memes about bernie's phantom of a movement. delicious.
>failed book clubsanon, you keep saying that, but are you projecting? I have never done such a thing.
>>2354584Stop it with this third worldist "Noble Savage" BS.
The Primary benefactors of American imperialism have always been the capitalists and the bourgeoisie, most Americans don't even have "treats" because said "treats" were temporary concessions given to the working class because capitalists were afraid that American workers would pull a USSR-style revolution. And ever since Ronald Reagan, those concessions have been stripped back.
Americans are capable of understanding socialism and are able to revolt. You really need to look into history about things like the Seattle General Strike and the Battle of Blair Mountain.
>>2354796it's almost like you have to agitate, educate, and
organize to make socialism happen instead of sitting around posting inane takes on the internet hoping that the third world saves the west from capitalism or that the revolution spontaneously generates and that it's not about Zohran himself but the opportunity him winning the nomination represents to work with the momentum of class consciousness forming after 80 years of McCarthyist anticommunist propaganda
hot commie summer >>2354805the man who said those words left America decades ago and works tirelessly against the US:
>>2354790 third video.
>>2354807I am not American, I have never lived in America, but I know a lot of American history, from its independence, to Z. Foster, cold war era and modern-day Gaza genocide. America is doomed by the people that backs up its government. and if anyone, someone, were to have a backbone, and a real sense of guilt, they should abandon the US.
unfortunately, no one wants to live as poor as everyone else.
those four videos have more propaganda value than any of these USAPOL threads have had for the past years.
>>2354573The angloid middle class will never be socialist, they've made every reactionary decision possible and given the American response to socialism, it should be clear that they have no interest in socialism. The middle class is downwardly mobile and compound interest is coming for their treats. Said compound interest trickles up to the bourgeois, see
>>2354595. Your button strawman doesn't hold up.
>>2354595Maybe true, but the middle class survived 2008, in spite of financial wounds. If the middle class is to get really rekt in another recession, it's gonna have to be big.
>>2354584Precisely Anon. The treatlerites have a vested class interest in keeping their access to said treats. A big part of this access comes with homeownership, at least in anglo NA. This does not mean change is impossible in the US, it just means that the class structure of the US has to change in a meaningful way before any sort of revolutionary movement has a base in which to form. Pockets of socialist interest exist in the US, they are just not able, or perhaps even willing, to break the petit bourgeois "moderates" that see their fortunes greater with the haute bourgeois.
>>2354602Thanks Anon, I will be investigating the middle class question more deeply.
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