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Not reporting is bourgeois


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>>2356339
Did you know Hamas is anti gay compared to Tel Aviv liberals???
Therefore Israel’s genocide is justified and resisting it is imperialist neoliberal homophobia !!!

just listen to that song by john lennon bro
>woman… is the uyghur of the woooorld, think about it, do something about it
that something is going to be bothsiding palestinian genocide on leftypol

>>2356340
Muslims hate gays, therefore Israel is justified in murdering all muslims - including muslim gays' families and loved ones

>>2356341
But remember both sides are bad but spend all the time criticizing Palestinians, Iran, Yemen, etc and none of the time criticizing Israel and the US

>>2356328
>ok let me find the original text
>it says the same thing
>ok here's the text
<bro it's from marxists.org that's a trotskyist glow site
>drive all the way to the library
>find a dusty old physical copy of lenin
>it says the same thing
>highlight the quote
>take a pic
>upload to leftypol dot org
<bro wtf you expect me to believe lenin when it's in english? english is a glow language bro
>fly to russia
>find some untranslated lenin
>it says the same thing
>upload to leftypol dot org
<OK lenin really says that but the material conditions have changed so it doesn't really apply anymore.
Why not just skip the steps and say this?

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>Iranian Islamists: flown in by the west, received weapons from Israel, helped the US invade two countries, received a list of communist dissidents from the west, allows western investments, publicly seeks normalization with the US, signed a ceasefire with the zionist entity
>Iranian communists: did not of the above
As a western imperialism hater I'm inclined to support one of those over the other sorry bros :/

>>2356353
>comparing marxists.org to that glow bullshit

>>2356274
im not getting logged by that baboon, Xique Xique macacos

>>2356343
>muslim gays' families and loved ones
"why would these chickens be for KFC smh" -satanyahu actively slaughtering muslims

>>2356354
stop the Sunniphobia

>>2356358
there are no muslim gays

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>>2356353
You just can't comprehend dialectics

>>2356356
my point was that if anon gave you the original lenin text instead of politsturm, you would have had a different weird deflection unrelated to the text itself so why not just skip the bullshit and just admit you think what lenin is saying 100 years ago doesn't 100% apply to the current geopolitical situation (which I actually agree with and think is way more to the point than complaining about who is quoting lenin)

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>>2356353
<OK lenin really says that but the material conditions have changed so it doesn't really apply anymore.
No it just says nothing about the topic at hand except in very general terms. Okay, there's either a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie or a dictatorship of the proletariat. How does that disprove anti-imperialism and support for periphery states resisting imperialism as a tactic?

>>2356368
obviously the politsturm anon was trying to use the quote to advocate revoutionary defeatism on the part of the iranian proletariat

>>2356365
if he did that he wouldn't be a polotsturm glowie
look, i can post
>Workers and oppressed peoples of all countries, unite!
and not shill for the CIA at the same time

>>2356372
>if he did that he wouldn't be a polotsturm glowie
you would very much likely still disagree with how the anon is using the quote and the context in which they are using it which is why you should directly attack that, which you are perfectly capable of

>>2356376
>just ignore the shill campaign
no

>>2356372
Given how much money and effort Israel has spent into promoting islamophobia amongst the "educated" crowd, it would be surprising if at least some leftists wouldn't be affected

it's not a quotes.com image, you had to deliberately go out of your way to find that crap and post it here
you post an image from bothside glowies that serve as agents of palestinian genocide, i point it out
if you don't want me to point it out then don't do it, this is your only option

>>2356371
that quote is a critique of socdemism anyway, i.e. he's saying that it is impossible to combine the two, it's pretty much irrelevant to the topic at hand

on the topic of war he wrote things like this:
>We Marxists differ from both the pacifists and the Anarchists in that we deem it necessary historically (from the standpoint of Marx’s dialectical materialism) to study each war separately. In history there have been numerous wars which, in spite of all the horrors, atrocities, distress and suffering that inevitably accompany all wars, were progressive, i.e., benefited the development of mankind by helping to destroy the exceptionally harmful and reactionary institutions (for example, autocracy or serfdom), the most barbarous despotisms in Europe (Turkish and Russian). Therefore, it is necessary to examine the historically specific features of precisely the present war.
basically he was an omeganationalist zigger islamist who thought that every conflict must be investigated dialectically instead of sloganeering about muh dead proletarians n shieet

>>2356380
>>2356372
I mean, we have even more money spent by USA in promoting sinophobia, and there are fanatical leftist enemies of the idea that China even *can* be considered socialist. Banal "muslims are religious and regressive" is practically nothing compared to "Chinese are not communist because of this sensationalist yellow press billionaire statistic"

>>2356383
<from the same text
>Before feudalism, absolutism and alien oppression were overthrown, the development of the proletarian struggle for Socialism was out of the question.
>When speaking of the legitimacy of “defensive” war in relation to the wars of such an epoch, Socialists always had in mind precisely these objects, which amounted to revolution against medievalism and serfdom.
>But picture to yourselves a slave-owner who owned 100 slaves warring against a slave-owner who owned 200 slaves for a more “just” distribution of slaves. Clearly, the application of the term “defensive” war, or war “for the defence of the fatherland” in such a case would be historically false, and in practice would be sheer deception of the common people, of philistines, of ignorant people, by the astute slaveowners. Precisely in this way are the present-day imperialist bourgeoisie deceiving the peoples by means of “national ideology and the term “defence of the fatherland in the present war between slave-owners for fortifying and strengthening slavery.

It's oger

Extra bangers
>Hence, it is not every struggle against imperialism that we should support. We will not support a struggle of the reactionary classes against imperialism,
>third, the need to combat Pan-Islamism and similar trends, which strive to combine the liberation movement against European and American imperialism with an attempt to strengthen the positions of the khans, landowners, mullahs, etc

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MLs must either deny that Iranian workers exist or that they're humans in order to justify their campism.

Really pathetic, no wonder your shitty movement is dead there and only Marxism prevails.

>>2356412
has "tankie" become too obviously liberal coded for you glowie?


>>2356412
wasn't i an islamist 5 minutes ago according to you? if so my movement is pretty alive in iran
also ML is the leading tendency in the world, cope seethe shit your pants

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>>2356361
big if true

>>2356412
really just going full humanism to own the commies huh?

>>2356412
Tankie -> Zigger -> MLoid -> ML

finally, they admit it! now for the final step, to admit that ML = marxism not ML versus "marxism"

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>>2356379
for lurkers who don't have a decade plus experience of sniffing out glow like you it is much more direct to say why the shills are wrong than to just declare them to be shills. anyone can declare anyone else to be a shill. you must use the immortal science to prove them wrong!

>>2356439
>ML = marxism

>>2356431
>ML is the leading tendency in the world
Clearly not in Iran where the only ML party is Tudeh that only lives through its last 4 supporters in Paris and in western leftists wet dreams after being massacred by wholesome Islamists. The active parties on ground all being explicitly anti-ML

MLs literally helped the west invade Iran in WW2 and currently support Islamists whenever workers are massacred

No wonder they hate you bruh

fr

>>2356412
What do you think about the plight of Ukrainian workers who do not want to take part in an imperialist war? >>2356448

Do you look forward to saying "I told you so" when Syria formally normalizes relations with Israel?

>>2356451
Tudehs were Trots, not MLs/communists, and any self proclaimed “communist” dissident groups in Iran are literally funded by Mossad. All of the actual MLs in Iran have long since joined the Islamic Revolutionary Republican government as the real movement to restore dignity to the working class

has anything happened yet?

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>>2356117
Evergreen

>>2356133
>"If I were in al-Sharaa's place, I would tell my people that even if I could make it difficult for the Israel Air Force, I have no interest in doing so," Baram said, explaining the new Syrian thinking. "I have an interest in the Israelis attacking Iran as much as possible."
>The Syrian interest is clear: Any blow to Iran weakens the largest strategic rival of the new regime in Damascus. "Every blow to Iran is pure benefit to al-Sharaa's regime," Baram asserted, explaining why the Syrians would not interfere with the Israeli operation, even if they had the capability to do so.
Holy fucking COPE
Syria is no longer a competitor for anything

>>2356677
please stop posting shartycancer

>>2356445
yes correct

>>2356680
>Syria is no longer a competitor for anything
unsucked western cock 0% speedrunners

>>2356685
It's actually a Shia communist xitter gemerald

>>2356685
it is accurate whether you like it or not, Sunni-retard

>>2356467
lmao H*z is that you?

>>2356685
it's a gemmy trvke tho.


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