>>2355974i'd rather die than be a nazbol larper, thanks
>>2355973it's long stopped being funny
>>2355991an intercrackka conflict if you will
if the mizrahis take the lead in Israel, it will be revolutionary to support the brown oppressed Mizrahi against the Aryan
>>2356084ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -c:v libx264 -c:a aac output.mp4
or throw it on catbox.moe and link it
>>2356081>>2356074sandi anon never said Iranians are 'white' because they are better than 'browns'
He always said he just finds them white. You folks interpret it as if he is saying it is better than being brown. You people have internalised racism so much its unbelievable.
>>2356117Syria-Iran normalization is coming
Syria-Iraq already happened and cucktollah proxies bent the knee
>>2356109How it started:
>Based White Israel launched a decapitation strike on Iranian anti-air, ballistics, and leadership. Regime change tomorrow. It's over multipolarisissies. AMERICA FOREVERHow it's going:
>Israeli airplanes turn around immediately once the daddy tells them to because of how embarrassing of a failure it is. Sanctions on Iranian oil repealed. Israeli cities more damaged than they were for decades. Sunni Jewish niggers denounce the Iranian strikes, refuse to lift a finger to attack the entity.Funnily enough, someone posted this shit while I wrote. Sunnis cheer on their own brothers and sisters being exterminated so brutally Nazis would be in awe.
>>2356117 >>2356117Don't make me defend Al Jihadi. This is just a stupid opinion piece by some random Israeli. It's pure speculation. He just lightly glosses over the fact that Israel was destroying every last bit of SAA equipment they could as soon as Assad fell. I doubt their AA situation is looking great at all.
>Syrian leader Ahmed al-Sharaa did not interfere in the Israeli operation in Iran for several reasons, most prominent of them is that the strikes benefited his newly formed regime, University of Haifa Professor Amatzia Baram argued in an interview with Maariv, published Thursday.
>When Israeli planes crossed Iranian skies for 12 days through Syria, Tehran closely monitored the operation, as did the office of Ahmed al-Sharaa, the Syrian leader, in Damascus. According to Baram, the conclusions drawn by the Syrian leader could help stabilize our northern border for the years to come.
>"If I were in al-Sharaa's place, I would tell my people that even if I could make it difficult for the Israel Air Force, I have no interest in doing so," Baram said, explaining the new Syrian thinking. "I have an interest in the Israelis attacking Iran as much as possible."
>The Syrian interest is clear: Any blow to Iran weakens the largest strategic rival of the new regime in Damascus. "Every blow to Iran is pure benefit to al-Sharaa's regime," Baram asserted, explaining why the Syrians would not interfere with the Israeli operation, even if they had the capability to do so.
>The first concerns the operational range of the Israeli air force. "The fact that Israel can maintain a continuous air presence over Iranian territory for 12 days, almost 2,000 kilometers away, uninterrupted," Baram emphasizes. "This is something al-Sharaa now knows, understands, and internalizes."
>The second lesson relates to Israel's intelligence capabilities. The operation showed how Israel can strike precisely and deeply into enemy territory. "The fact that Israel can eliminate all the senior Iranian military leadership within two or three days, and then strike the most important Revolutionary Guard bases," Baram says, "illustrates the depth of intelligence achievements."
>The most impressive aspect is the surgical precision of the actions. "They reach their apartments, 2,000 or 1,500 kilometers away, strike the apartment, and kill the senior scientist or officer," Baram described. "I imagine that al-Sharaa also noted this down in the notebook he keeps in the left pocket of his military uniform."
>The Syrian conclusion is clear and troubling: "I might be wrong, and we might not have such capabilities, but if I were al-Sharaa, I would conclude that Israel can reach me at any moment," Baram asserts. "He understands that if he doesn't want to commit suicide, it's better not to get entangled with us."
>However, Baram emphasizes that even without the fear of Israel, al-Sharaa has no real interest in confronting us. "He is not Palestinian. We haven’t taken from him what he believes is his historic homeland. We took the Golan Heights from Assad, but the Golan is not a sufficient reason for a bloody conflict: even the Assad family, Hafez al-Assad and his son Bashar, essentially recognized de facto that the Golan belongs to us, since they didn’t try to take it back after 1973, and every Syrian knows this. In other words, there is already a precedent of half a century where the Syrian regime has accepted Israeli control over the Golan. Therefore, Syrian nationalists and jihadists who try to incite the public against al-Sharaa for not going to war to liberate the Golan will face discomfort."
>In fact, according to Baram, al-Sharaa is "quietly grateful to us for what we've done. The Iranians are looking for a way to get rid of him and return Syria to their sphere of influence. He knows this, and he understands that now it will be more difficult for them to do so." Moreover, the Israeli operation showed al-Sharaa that Israel effectively deters both the Shiite militias in Iraq and Hezbollah, two of his natural enemies.
>"Al-Sharaa sees that the pro-Iranian militias in Iraq and Hezbollah did nothing during the 12 days of the war, despite the fact that Iran built Hezbollah specifically for this moment," Baram pointed out. "I assume he's quietly grateful to us for this as well." In the current situation, it is easier for al-Sharaa to convince his supporters, some of whom are still Sunni jihadists, to maintain at least stability, if not cooperation, along the contact lines with Israel. >>2356178see
>>2356155flood detected
>>2356181Refer to
>>2356167
>state department You mean the one that believes Assad had a Stalinist succdem regime instead of neoliberalism? Nice self own :)
>>2356193wow, assad looks older than he did when he was deposed
and why did they use a monochromatic camera? weird
>>2356206Yes the western left actually believes this.
While we Marxists know that the purpose of all war is delay the crisis of overproduction through destruction & reconstruction cycle just like in Iraq, Libya in the past and Iran and Israel right now.
>>2356101>>2356102Israel: Here's the deal….
Trump: I made a deal!
>>2356223huh, wow that's strange
still better than america and israel
though >>2356229>>2356231there was definitely a few weirdos holding this position
you rats are super disingenuous
>>2356235man how I wish the total destruction of Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia.
Eliminate them and Israel will disappear by itself.
>>2355429Can someone make the Zulfiqar sickle communist logo like in the graffiti pic in OP
It looks awesome
>>2356253the zulfiqar looks like shit
zero taste
>>2356235Do you really think that the coup that ended the war wasn't initiated by the factions that benefited from previous waves of privatization? What are you trying to prove? Is it funny for you that capital won?
I hope your country gets into a civil war too and your whole gets killed by US proxies faggot.
>>2356261The Great Leader of TikTok Aura
he is a cuck
>>2356280>That's literally what every Marxist should hope for, retardOh yes, that's - a massive unrest, with a lot of deaths and suffering - is certainly something that marxists wish for, and not brace and prepare for
Also, you know that neither the law or people look kindly on those who pursue civil wars, right?
>>2356261Oh khamenei, why did you stop?
Harden your heart! Increase your attacks!
>>2356297Who are you quoting? Western leftists really have low attention span.
>>2356300Start with the Manifesto, then try Gotha.
>>2356301>>2356301>1000 Iranian workers were killedby US-backed Israel
> so the Iranian regime could survive and an upcoming crackdown on Iranian communists under the guise of Mossad purgethe revolution was imminent? the vanguard party was ready? they were so close to taking over? all it took was some attacks by US-backed Israel targeting high ranking officials in the Iranian military to destroy … the vanguard party in Iran?
>>2356305>im new to marxWe can tell you're a liberal
>if we don't support neoliberal bourgeoisie 1 neoliberal bourgeoisie 2 will take over>billion workers should die for the bourgeoisie or else this happens (nothing happens)Umm…..
>>2356312wtf marx was bald?
>politsturmevery fucking time, every fucking thread
>>2356325I think it’s the same person who keeps saying “inter-imperialist” conflict and that everyone is neoliberal
They have no idea what imperialism and neoliberalism are
>>2356328I'm convinced now Lenin has been debonked
Kautsky may be dead but his students have earned this W
>>2356332hamas can't possibly resist israel they oppress women this is why le bothsides is correct
im retarded btw
>>2356339Did you know Hamas is anti gay compared to Tel Aviv liberals???
Therefore Israel’s genocide is justified and resisting it is imperialist neoliberal homophobia !!!
>>2356365if he did that he wouldn't be a polotsturm glowie
look, i can post
>Workers and oppressed peoples of all countries, unite!and not shill for the CIA at the same time
>>2356371that quote is a critique of socdemism anyway, i.e. he's saying that it is impossible to combine the two, it's pretty much irrelevant to the topic at hand
on the topic of war he wrote things like this:
>We Marxists differ from both the pacifists and the Anarchists in that we deem it necessary historically (from the standpoint of Marx’s dialectical materialism) to study each war separately. In history there have been numerous wars which, in spite of all the horrors, atrocities, distress and suffering that inevitably accompany all wars, were progressive, i.e., benefited the development of mankind by helping to destroy the exceptionally harmful and reactionary institutions (for example, autocracy or serfdom), the most barbarous despotisms in Europe (Turkish and Russian). Therefore, it is necessary to examine the historically specific features of precisely the present war. basically he was an omeganationalist zigger islamist who thought that every conflict must be investigated dialectically instead of sloganeering about muh dead proletarians n shieet
>>2356383<from the same text>Before feudalism, absolutism and alien oppression were overthrown, the development of the proletarian struggle for Socialism was out of the question.>When speaking of the legitimacy of “defensive” war in relation to the wars of such an epoch, Socialists always had in mind precisely these objects, which amounted to revolution against medievalism and serfdom.>But picture to yourselves a slave-owner who owned 100 slaves warring against a slave-owner who owned 200 slaves for a more “just” distribution of slaves. Clearly, the application of the term “defensive” war, or war “for the defence of the fatherland” in such a case would be historically false, and in practice would be sheer deception of the common people, of philistines, of ignorant people, by the astute slaveowners. Precisely in this way are the present-day imperialist bourgeoisie deceiving the peoples by means of “national ideology and the term “defence of the fatherland in the present war between slave-owners for fortifying and strengthening slavery. It's oger
Extra bangers
>Hence, it is not every struggle against imperialism that we should support. We will not support a struggle of the reactionary classes against imperialism,>third, the need to combat Pan-Islamism and similar trends, which strive to combine the liberation movement against European and American imperialism with an attempt to strengthen the positions of the khans, landowners, mullahs, etc >>2356412wasn't i an islamist 5 minutes ago according to you? if so my movement is pretty alive in iran
also ML is the leading tendency in the world, cope seethe shit your pants
>>2356412Tankie -> Zigger -> MLoid -> ML
finally, they admit it! now for the final step, to admit that ML = marxism not ML versus "marxism"
>>2356133>"If I were in al-Sharaa's place, I would tell my people that even if I could make it difficult for the Israel Air Force, I have no interest in doing so," Baram said, explaining the new Syrian thinking. "I have an interest in the Israelis attacking Iran as much as possible.">The Syrian interest is clear: Any blow to Iran weakens the largest strategic rival of the new regime in Damascus. "Every blow to Iran is pure benefit to al-Sharaa's regime," Baram asserted, explaining why the Syrians would not interfere with the Israeli operation, even if they had the capability to do so.Holy fucking COPE
Syria is no longer a competitor for anything
>>2356371>>2356412Soviets should have done revolutionary defeatism against Nazi Germany because the the $oCIAl demonkkkrat government of the U
SSR didn't abolish commodity production
>>2356698>gemerald>>2356706>gemmy trvkenot beating the sharteen allegations
>>2356702not Muslim, let alone Sunni, cancerous shart art makes me fucking puke whether the "message" (lol) is "correct" or not (assuming a "message" even exists)
>>2356733oh fuck Lady Izdihar, the most retarded self-gaslighting person on the Internet
sAlaAm AaLeIkKkuM c0mRaDeS
>>2356742Stalin didn't do anything other than maintain the status quo, the historical situation was beyond his control.
Stalinist Russia was progressive in terms of bourgeois revolutions as Russia was industrialised and capitalist production generalised. It still had nothing to do with Marxism.
And the difference is Lenin never claimed to have achieved socialism, for illiterates out there.
>>2356744Hakim, Lady Izdihar, Haz Al Din, and Zohran Mamdani will usher in Islamic Communism…. but there
will be infighting lol
>>2356748>USSR wasn't socialist, akshuallyWhat next? Are you going to say that China isn't socialist either? You do realize that Westoid propaganda is telling you 24/7 that the enemy isn't communism for the purpose of generating consent?
It's like the war aganst Iran - it's accompanied by an obscene campaign of presenting Iran as a super-dictatorship that's murdering gazillions of people and keeps women dressed in trashbags while people are starving
>>2356752Muslims are called Adam too, Mr Crackka
H*z is a shia Lebanese
>>2356750Unfair to put Zohran in there
He is just a run of the mill demonrat who's gonna live a good New Yorker life
he is nowhere near as schizo as Hakin, izdihar and Haz lmao
>>2356752the important thing is that he pretends to be. as machiavelli said, nothing is more important than
appearing religious.
>>2356753I'm brown and I've been to Iran, libtard.
>what's next? The neoliberal state of China hasn't abolished the state and with it all class distinctions????lol
>>2356787>>2356789>immediately concedes So
>>2356332 is the real movement and their text is holier than your quran they said the IRGC must go and thy will be done :^)
>>2356803JIHAAAAAAAAAD
geg
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/tallying-the-costs-to-israel-of-its-failed-iran-regime-change-operation.htmlTallying the Costs to Israel of Its Failed Iran Regime Change Operation
>Yves here. The text of a tweet from Thomas Keith (if you have a Twitter account, please follow him!) summarizes estimates of the many substantial hard dollar costs Israel incurred in its Iran misadventure, also with economic losses that have a much longer tail, such as the loss of venture capital, since no investor with an operating brain cell wants to operate out of a conflict zone. As most readers know, a significant majority of experts and other commentators see the cessation of hostilities as temporary and expect more kinetic action, as in more destruction.
>We said at the outset that Israel has a glass jaw. It’s never been on the receiving end of the punishment it has been casually handing out for decades. As Alastair Crooke said after the October 7 attack, the raison d’etre for Israel was to be a safe haven for Jews. That belief was damaged then and not it has been smashed to bits.
>Official tallies seem modest compared to the Keith’s list:
<Israel estimates indicate that the cost may rise to $20 billion, with damage affecting the economy, society, and strategic infrastructure. The Compensation Fund of the Israeli Tax Authority stated that it had received around 39,000 claims for direct material damage resulting from the Iranian strikes inside the Israeli-occupied cities. These claims included 30,809 for damage to buildings, 3,713 for damage to vehicles, and 4,085 for damage to equipment and other property. In this context, the Hebrew newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth noted that estimates suggest thousands of additional buildings were also damaged.
>Two days earlier, the Times of Israel estimated the damage at a paltry $1.5 billion, only twice the level of damage inflicted in the Hamas attacks. For reference, Israel’s GDP is $513 billion.
>Note that even though the list below is extensive and specific, there are further costs it omits, in part because they can’t yet be reasonably estimated:
< 1. The severe economic downdraft as more Israelis flee if and when the country is opened up again, particularly the high-skilled ones on whom the economy depends. We covered that vulnerability at length in a June 2024 post, Israel Economy Bleeding Out as Damage Compounds. Note in particular that it cited an Israeli economist who says the country depends on a mere 300,000 professionals1
< 2. The loss of more IDF soldiers, which Israel has yet to admit to.
< 3. The cost of the damage to ports, which goes beyond the cost of repairing infrastructure to the loss of shipments, which could be protracted if insurers are leery
< 4. The odds that the BDS movement will gain more steam as Israel kept up its genocide even during the Iran conflict. From Aljazeera:
< Since Israel began attacking Iran on June 13, global attention on the plight of Palestinians in the occupied territory has faded from the headlines.
< But Israel has continued to attack Palestinians in Gaza, while conducting deadly raids in the West Bank…
< “Israel is using the diverted attention away from Gaza to continue to carry out atrocious crimes against starving civilians,” said Omar Rahman, an expert on Israel and Palestine for the Middle East Council on Global Affairs think tank.
< “We have also seen a lot of military and settler activity in the West Bank in recent days,” he told Al Jazeera.
< Israel’s violence against helpless Palestinians at the GHF site on Tuesday resulted in the highest single death toll at any GHF site since the controversial organisation began operations last month. It has been lambasted for what opponents have called the militarisation of humanitarian aid relief.
>Readers can add to this and Thomas Keith’s list; full text below the embed:
<Israel entered the 12-day exchange convinced it could absorb costs; the ledger now shows a nation bleeding cash, talent, and confidence. Direct military outlays hit $5 B in the first week, then ballooned to $725 M every 24 hours, $593 M on offensive strikes that failed to silence Iran, $132 M on frantic mobilisation and missile intercepts that still let 400 warheads through. Iron Dome batteries alone inhaled $10 M to $200 M per day while Iranian salvos sailed past them and erased $1.47 B in civilian property, triggering 38 700 damage claims, 11 000 evacuations, and 30 condemned high-rise skeletons across Tel Aviv’s financial spine.
<The Weizmann Institute, Israel’s prestige export, lies in shards, 45 labs gone and $500 M in biomedical IP incinerated, pulling decades of grant pipelines and pharma partnerships off the table overnight. Intel’s Kiryat Gat fabs froze mid-wafer, choking a supply chain that feeds 64 % of Israel’s exports and 1/5 of its GDP; the high-tech sector now runs on skeleton crews because 300 000 reservists were yanked from R&D floors and data centers to guard empty runways at Tel Nof. Commercial flights halted twice at Ben Gurion, insurers jacked premiums, and foreign airlines rerouted around a country that once sold itself as the region’s safe hub.
<Capital is already in flight. More than 80 000 Israelis emigrated in 2024, the largest outflow since 1948, pushing the two-year total above 500 000 and forcing Netanyahu’s cabinet to slap a travel ban on Jewish dual nationals to stem the leak. Investor confidence cratered: venture funds paused term sheets, construction sites stand idle, and mega-projects wait on credit that no longer clears. The finance ministry, staring at a deficit set to shove public debt past 75 % of GDP, begged for an extra $857 M in defence cash while slicing $200 M from hospitals and schools.
<Analysts peg Israel’s aggregate loss between $11.5 B and $17.8 B, up to 3.3 % of GDP, before counting long-tail hits from halted exports, cancelled IPOs, and sovereign-risk downgrades. Iran, still sitting on its uranium stockpile, spent a fraction of that yet forced the self-styled “Start-Up Nation” into a liquidity scramble, an insurance panic, and a brain-drain spiral. Tel Aviv promised deterrence; Tehran handed it a balance sheet in red ink and the visible stamp of strategic humiliation.
>It’s not clear how much depth and resilience Israel’s economy (and society) have. Some on the anti-war right assert that Israel is a fake economy, more an imperial outpost than a reasonably self-supporting country. This is a topic I’d like to examine further but lack the bandwidth at this juncture. Any reader data points (better yet data sources) are very much welcome.
>On the surface, Israel’s import and export statistics don’t indicate much US dependence…
>To flip the question: what becomes of Israel if it continues to suffer an exodus, particularly of highly skilled, highly mobile professionals and experts? Many argue that the US and wealthy Zionists can continue to prop Israel up on an open-ended basis. But what if enough “talent” leaves and businesses shutter so that the support goes into what increasingly looks like a welfare queen? And how does a state that has become that much of a dependency defend itself in a neighborhood that it has united against it?
>Now to some of the highlights from the important Mondoweiss story, which I encourage you to read in full. Critically, it describes severe, potentially irreparable damage all across the economy:
< The economic indicators speak of nothing less than an economic catastrophe. Over 46,000 businesses have gone bankrupt, tourism has stopped, Israel’s credit rating was lowered, Israeli bonds are sold at the prices of almost “junk bonds” levels, and the foreign investments that have already dropped by 60% in the first quarter of 2023 (as a result of the policies of Israel’s far-right government before October 7) show no prospects of recovery. The majority of the money invested in Israeli investment funds was diverted to investments abroad because Israelis do not want their own pension funds and insurance funds or their own savings to be tied to the fate of the State of Israel. This has caused a surprising stability in the Israeli stock market because funds invested in foreign stocks and bonds generated profit in foreign currency, which was multiplied by the rise in the exchange rate between foreign currencies and the Israeli Shekel. But then Intel scuttled a $25 billion investment plan in Israel, the biggest BDS victory ever.
< The crisis strikes deeper at the means of production of the Israeli economy< These are all financial indicators. But the crisis strikes deeper at the means of production of the Israeli economy. Israel’s power grid, which has largely switched to natural gas, still depends on coal to supply demand. The biggest supplier of coal to Israel is Colombia, which announced that it would suspend coal shipments to Israel as long as the genocide was ongoing. After Colombia, the next two biggest suppliers are South Africa and Russia. Without reliable and continuous electricity, Israel will no longer be able to pretend to be a developed economy. Server farms do not work without 24-hour power, and no one knows how many blackouts the Israeli high-tech sector could potentially survive. International tech companies have already started closing their branches in Israel.
>An aside: the loss of Colombia’s coal supplies clearly would have a serious impact, if nothing else on prices as Israel scrambles for substitute sources. Whether the result is Ukraine-style daily outages has yet to be seen, but if so, for an advanced economy, the impact would be devastating. These are the top coal exporters in 2023, per Tradeimex Solutions, so Israel is not bereft of alternatives.
>But how quickly can it line up replacement supply agreements? And to what extent would these new shipments be vulnerable to Houthi attacks?
>The flip side is this section may somewhat understate the deteriorating condition of Israel’s businesses. In a July story, the Cradle cites CEO of Israeli information services and credit risk management firm, CofaceBdi, who said 60,000 businesses are expected to have closed by year end 2024. The tweeted video below claims (without sourcing, but its other stats echo those from mainstream accounts) that 50% of startups are on track to closing within six months:
>Back to Mondoweiss:
< Israel’s reputation as a “startup nation” depends on its tech sector, which in turn depends on highly educated employees. Israeli academics report that joint research with universities abroad has declined sharply thanks to the efforts of student encampments. Israeli newspapers are full of articles about the exodus of educated Israelis. Prof. Dan Ben David, a famous economist, argued that the Israeli economy is held together by 300,000 people (the senior staff in universities, tech companies, and hospitals). Once a significant portion of these people leaves, he says, “We won’t become a third world country, we just won’t be anymore.”…
< The two sectors of the Israeli economy that do not report a crash are the arms companies, which are reporting high sales (although most of them are domestic, arming the genocide), and the “exits” — as international corporations scavenge the carcasses of Israel’s tech sector looking for bargains. Even Google expressed interest in buying the Israeli cyber security company Wiz, founded by Israeli intelligence officers who are eager to sell their company to Google in order to be able to leave Israel…
< In the age of the information economy, the economic prospects of states are neither determined by raw materials nor the quality of the workforce. Instead, we live in an era of an “economy of expectations.” The hype of Israel’s “startup nation” has turned into a #Shutdownnation. Two senior Israeli economists, Jugene Kendel and Ron Tzur, published a secret report in which they predict that Israel will not survive to its 100th year. The report is kept secret because they do not want it to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, but they gave interviews about it. >>2356830Jizzrael still continues to massacre Palestinians, this time with the Muslim Brotherhood™ approval.
UKKKraine is still fighting Russia's 3 day long special military operation for the 20fh consecutive year.
>>2356830youcraney is already gone, they're hanging by a thread, it's over
if current rates are anything to go by israel probably finished the genocide, whether that state still exists is hard to say, i guess it depends on how the eventual amerikkkan war on iran goes
gulf monarchies have single or low double digits on their oil reserves left today, no? chaos up in that bitch
>>2356833Yeah
He calls Israel an extension of the US empire and a genocidal settler colony
>>2356865do you know what neoliberal means
or are you just a mossad agent
>Following his assumption of power in 2000, Bashar al-Assad sought to frame his leadership around modernizing and opening the economy. He emphasized, in particular, "the need to modernize the regulatory environment and the industrial base, activate and encourage the private sector, remove bureaucratic obstacles to investment, increase job opportunities, qualify cadres, improve education and expand information technology." While the government's neoliberal reforms indeed contributed to ramping up trade and invigorating the private sector, these were accompanied by rising inequality, declining public services, and increasingly overt forms of corruption, which ultimately helped fuel protests in 2011. In one example of this trend, the Syrian Agricultural Workers Union complained in February 2011 that state mismanagement and the lifting of input subsidies was exacerbating the impact of drought on Syria's agricultural sector.
It's over
>>2356872US tried to overthrow assad from the second he took power, you're retarded
you defend the destruction of a country and the slaughter of it's people on the basis that whatever was happening there was not pure enough compared to whatever your dogma is, you're sick, you deserve death, you're even worse than the people who enacted this decade+ scheme since you cheer for it, they have real material interests behind destroying syria, you just think it's funny and fuel to own the ziggers
sick, evil, demonic, vile, despicable, TFU, disgusting, die cretin
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/06/mark-sleboda-what-the-hell-just-happened-in-the-middle-east-you-may-ask.html
>Mark Sleboda is summarizing his view of the current episode in the war on Iran (slightly edited for clarity):
< What the Hell Just Happened in the Middle East You May Ask?
< My take -
< The US/Israel realized:
> that their regime change plans were not coming to fruition,< that the Iranian govt had more support and stronger foundations than they had believed,> that Israeli air defense was collapsing/exhausted and< that an attrition war of long range strike was going to go badly for Israel.> And Trump began to get freaked out over the rising price of oil with the Iranian threat of closing the strait of Hormuz.
< So they wrapped it up, declared victory, and demanded a ceasefire.
< Iran agreed because they too have been badly shaken through Israeli covert warfare and their own air defense all but collapsed.
< The can will only be kicked down the road, and both sides will start rebuilding, and making preparations and plans for the next round, the next war. This was only a skirmish at the end of the day …
< Iran, for surviving, maintaining a civilian nuclear enrichment program, and for the fact that it was the US/Israel that pushed for the "ceasefire", comes out slightly ahead on points.
< The biggest loser - the collapse of the NNPT and international law.
>Israel is already thinking about restarting the war.
>But in the long term Sleboda's last point is the most important one. The Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty has kept a cap on the number of countries with nuclear weapons. The attack on Iran's civilian nuclear installation, and the lack of a serious IAEA's reaction to it, proves that the NNTP fails to provide the security it once had promised.
>No only Iran will take conclusions from that.
>Iran's parliament has, for good reasons, decided to stop all cooperation with the IAEA.
>It seems to have support for this from Russia:
< "IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi could have provided a more precise report," [Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei] Lavrov said. "He is now insisting that Iran grant the agency immediate access to its nuclear facilities to verify the whereabouts of enriched materials and assess the situation on the ground. But where are the assurances that this information won’t be leaked? I see no such safeguards."
< Lavrov also pointed to broader concerns about the neutrality of international institutions. "This ties into what I mentioned earlier: the West is exerting serious influence over the secretariats of international organizations. In some cases, it’s as though they have been effectively privatized," he remarked.
>The West is demolishing the international order that had, for the last 80 years, provided some 'rules of the road' in global behavior. The U.S. is preventing the World Trade Organization from doing its job. The agreements that limited nuclear weapons were done away with one by one. The recent conflict blew up the NNPT and further diminished the UN Charter.
>The consequences go far beyond the Middle East. They makes the world less peaceful. >>2356894There's trashing everything to desperately eke out a 5% GDP growth over decades and then there's tripling it in a decade, it's simply too much not to improve the country in general.
We can do this with any metric you'd like to cope with though, just list them all out because I'll only do it once.
https://www.inss.org.il/publication/israel-iran-war/
>The ceasefire between Iran and Israel, declared on June 24, 2025, signals the conclusion of the most intense and severe phase to date in the ongoing confrontation between the Islamic Republic and Israel. Israel can claim this round of battle as a significant success. Even if Iran retains a stockpile of uranium enriched to 60%—which it had before the conflict and may have relocated to hidden sites—its nuclear program has been significantly set back. Although it is likely that the two enrichment facilities at Natanz and Fordow were not totally destroyed, they suffered substantial damage, and the elimination of more than ten senior nuclear scientists will either prevent or, at least, seriously hamper Iran’s ability to break out toward nuclear weapons in the foreseeable future. Iran might still be able to produce weapons-grade fissile material enriched to 90%, but it is doubtful that this alone would be sufficient to enable it to manufacture an actual nuclear weapon. Moreover, the US decision to carry out strikes reflects a historic American resolve to actually use military leverage—an important precedent that may ease the path for future administrations to do the same if necessary.
>Conversely, Iran is likely to portray the war as a success regardless of its actual outcomes. Throughout the fighting, Iranian authorities and media emphasized Israeli casualties and the scale of damage inflicted on Israel, in an effort to construct a narrative that the Islamic Republic is capable of withstanding prolonged confrontation with Israel and causing it serious harm in return. Even Hezbollah’s defeat last summer continues to be framed in Iran as a “victory,” with claims that the organization succeeded in forcing a ceasefire on Israel, which allegedly failed to achieve its key strategic objectives. There is little reason to assume Iran’s narrative at the end of the current hostilities will differ. Since the start of the conflict, Iran’s leadership has aimed to preserve three key strategic-operational achievements: First, regime survival—perceived as Iran’s highest national priority; second, preservation of the nuclear program—seen as an “insurance policy” for regime continuity; and third, survival of critical strategic infrastructures—particularly missile systems, intelligence networks, and command-and-control capabilities, all of which are essential for facing future security challenges.
>With the announcement of the ceasefire, it can be argued that the Iranian regime succeeded in preserving internal cohesion, demonstrating resolve, and presenting a united front against the external threat. Iranian public opinion was shaped primarily by images of civilian casualties and destruction, channeling its anger mainly toward Israel rather than the regime itself—partly due to the regime’s control of the media and its exploitation of national solidarity. Although Iran’s nuclear program sustained a severe setback, Tehran is unlikely to surrender or abandon its nuclear ambitions. On the contrary, it is quite possible that Iran’s determination to advance toward military nuclear capability will only intensify. Over the past year, signs have emerged of a shift in Iranian strategic thinking, especially in light of the collapse of the so-called “axis of resistance” and Iran’s failure to impose a new deterrence equation on Israel using ballistic missiles and UAVs. Voices in Tehran have grown louder, asserting that improving deterrence requires not only enhancing missile capabilities and rehabilitating Hezbollah and the pro-Iranian axis, but also a shift in nuclear doctrine—including consideration of a breakout toward nuclear weapons, which would provide Iran with the ultimate “insurance policy.” These voices are unlikely to recede with the end of the military campaign; rather, they may grow stronger. While Iran’s breakout capability may have been damaged in the near term, it is reasonable to expect Tehran will continue advancing its nuclear ambitions—whether under the constraints of an agreement or via a covert pathway.
>Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared this week that Israel remains committed to securing its objectives, whether through diplomacy or force. While the prime minister did not rule out the possibility of a deal to enshrine the gains of the military campaign, he emphasized that in its absence, Israel will maintain these gains through ongoing enforcement—“just as we do in Lebanon.” It is worth noting that there is no indication that Iran is currently interested in returning to a negotiated framework—especially not one that would require concessions perceived in Tehran as capitulation to US dictates, foremost among them the relinquishment of Iran’s enrichment capabilities. Moreover, it is doubtful that Iran would agree to an intrusive inspection mechanism by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which senior Iranian officials accused during the conflict of cooperating with Israel and the United States and facilitating attacks on Iran.
>The prospect of reviving a nuclear agreement poses a difficult dilemma for Israel, although the final decision largely rests on choices to be made in Washington and Tehran in the coming weeks. On one hand, a deal could allow for more stringent oversight of Iran’s nuclear program. Without an agreement, Israel will be forced to rely entirely on intelligence capabilities to monitor the program—and it is uncertain whether intelligence alone can reliably detect every potential violation. Furthermore, it is unclear whether the Lebanese model—responding to each violation—can be sustained over time. Will Israel truly respond every time Iran attempts to redeploy a launcher at some remote base? Will it act against every effort to restore enrichment facilities or, worse, break out to a nuclear weapon? Even if, at present, the United States and Israel see eye to eye on the need to block Iran, it is uncertain whether this close coordination can be maintained over time—especially in light of potential political changes in the United States or shifts in its global priorities. In this context, pursuing a nuclear agreement under improved terms may be preferable. Such an agreement would enshrine the significant operational successes achieved by Israel and the United States and allow continued close monitoring of developments in Iran’s nuclear program. If no agreement is reached, Israel will have to pursue a long-term campaign, combining kinetic strikes with covert operations to prevent an Iranian breakout.
>On the other hand, a nuclear deal in itself does not guarantee Iranian compliance over time. It would also do little to prevent continued progress along a covert path, especially if Iran retains residual capabilities. Moreover, any agreement that results in the lifting (or significant easing) of economic sanctions would offer the regime a lifeline and enhance its capacity to continue its malign activities across multiple arenas. It could also restrict Israel’s freedom of action against Iran—unless safeguarded through informal understandings with the United States.
>In any case, it must be remembered that the battle against Iran is far from complete. The Israeli and American strikes may provide a temporary response to the Iranian nuclear challenge, but they do not offer a comprehensive answer to the full range of threats posed by the Islamic Republic—which openly calls for Israel’s destruction. Ultimately, the long-term solution to the Iranian threat to Israel’s national security lies in regime change in Tehran. The fall of the Iranian regime is a goal that serves not only Israel, the region, and the West—but also the Iranian people themselves. While the Israeli military campaign may create new opportunities for Israel and the West to promote political change in Iran, the likelihood of such change depends primarily on internal developments and on an unpredictable trigger event. At most, the West can continue to support initiatives that provide the Iranian public with free access to information and communication, publicly express support for demonstrators (which may embolden their struggle), and prepare—by all available means—for the day when millions of Iranian citizens take to the streets and require every possible form of assistance.
>In the meantime, Israel must prepare to continue its campaign against Iran using diplomatic, economic, covert intelligence, and at times military means to ensure the realization of all its strategic objectives. These include blocking Iran’s path to nuclear weapons, dismantling the pro-Iranian axis, and limiting the missile project.
<Dr. Raz Zimmt is the Director of the Iran and the Shiite Axis research program at the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS). He is also the co-editor of the institute’s journal, Strategic Assessment. He holds a master's degree and a Ph.D. in Middle Eastern history from Tel Aviv University. His Ph.D. dissertation focused on Iranian policy towards Nasserism and Arab radicalism between 1954 and 1967. Additionally, he is a research fellow at the Alliance Center for Iranian Studies at Tel-Aviv University. >>2356930no one has said that Iran is socialist ITT, so no problem with tradin. But Iran, unlike you, is truly anti-imperialist. and for that reason, I let many of whatever criticism you might have like
>le trade oilslide, because, unlike you, they've done more for anti-imperialism than you, wasting time bringing whatever contrarian garbage you probably obtained from sites that have invested 0 time in taking down US/nato imperialism.
>>2356941See
>>2356332
>oil tradeThey don't trade oil, they sell oil extraction wholesale to western companies.
https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/the-war-on-iran-is-not-over
>I don’t know why Iran agreed to the ceasefire, but it did. Iranian leaders, in my opinion, are frighteningly naive. Some apparently believe that they can achieve a legitimate negotiated deal with Donald Trump. I suggest the Ayatollah and IRGC commanders read Donald Trump’s Truth Social posting regarding Bibi Netanyahu (see image above). Despite Trump’s temper tantrum on Monday — when he dropped the F-bomb complaining about the ignorance of Iran and Israel — he still has his lips firmly planted on Bibi’s backside and will likely look for a pretext to continue the war with Iran.
>While there is no doubt that Israel inflicted some serious damage on Iran by killing scores of military leaders and nuclear scientists, Iran hit Israel far harder. Consider the following facts:
<Israel has one international airport… Ben Gurion.
<Iran has 29 international airports.
>By closing Ben Gurion, Iran cut off Israel’s access to commercial air traffic. Israel hit at least three airports in Iran, but did not stop commercial air traffic to Iran.
>How about seaports? Israel only has two ports that handle container ships — Haifa and Ashdod. Iran forced the closure of Haifa and was on its way to doing the same to Ashdod. Iran, by contrast, has eight principal ports on the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman:
<Port of Shahid Rajaee (Bandar Abbas complex)
<Bandar Abbas (general shipping)
<Chabahar (direct access to Indian Ocean)
<Bandar Khomeini, Bandar Mahshahr, Bushehr, Parsian, Hormuz
>None were forced to suspend operations.
>If Iran had shuttered Ashdod, Israel would have faced the prospect of significant shortages of essential items, including food and energy. Israel would have been compelled to rely on military airports for resupply, but it appears those airfields were hit by Iranian missiles and suffered some damage. The extent of the destruction is unknown thanks to the efficiency of Israeli censors.
>Iran also hurt Israel’s ability to refine oil at the Haifa Refinery — Operated by BAZAN Group (formerly Oil Refineries Ltd.), located in Haifa Bay, with a capacity of approximately 197,000 barrels per day (~9 million tons annually). Iran reportedly hit and severely damaged the Haifa Refinery. Israel has one other refinery at Ashdod — Owned by Paz Oil Company, based in Ashdod, with a capacity of about 108,000 barrels per day (~5.4 million tons annually). I have seen no reports about Iranian attacks on the facility at Ashdod.
>Had this war continued, Israel likely would have faced an unprecedented economic crisis if it lost its two main container ports and its refineries. Because Israel’s air-defense system had been rendered inoperable and Iran continued to demonstrate the ability to hit critical infrastructure, Israel could have faced a genuine existential crisis.
>IAEA Director Rafael Grossi is in a panic. During an interview with a French TV station, he admitted:
<The IAEA has lost the ability to monitor Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile following the recent escalation between Israel and Iran.
>I think Iranian officials now realize they were played for fools by the IAEA. Circumstantial evidence points to IAEA as the source that provided the names, addresses and phone numbers of the Iranian nuclear scientists that were murdered by Israeli operatives. Iran is taking steps to end its relationship with the IAEA, according to Eureka News:
<The Iranian Parliament approved a bill on Wednesday to suspend cooperation with the IAEA.
<Alireza Salimi, a member of the Iranian Parliament’s presidency, stated that the decision would be referred to the Supreme National Security Council for approval. He also said that agency inspectors would be banned from entering the country and that sanctions would be imposed on those who allowed them in.
<“The International Atomic Energy Agency did not even formally condemn the attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, so it has lost its international credibility,” said Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, speaker of the Parliament.
<He also stressed that the country intends to continue working on peaceful nuclear energy, despite the threats. “Iran will be more ready and prepared than ever, our hand is on the trigger, and we will respond with overwhelming force to any aggression,” he stated.
>Grossi is throwing his own version of a temper tantrum, telling Eureka News:
<Iran has an obligation to cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency on its nuclear program,” its Director General, Rafael Grossi, told France 2 on Wednesday.
<In detail, the senior official stated that Iran’s cooperation with the agency “is not a favor, it is a legal obligation as long as Iran remains a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).
>In light of the events of the last 12 days, Iran would be entirely justified to withdraw from the NPT. I wonder if Russia and China are reconsidering their cooperation with IAEA. Russia’s Sergei Lavrov made the same observation as Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf (see above)… harshly criticizing the IAEA’s failure to denounce the Israeli and US attacks on Iran’s nuclear plants.
>While Trump is confident that Iran will return to the negotiating table, I remain skeptical that Iran is willing to sit down with Steve Witkoff and agree to halt all uranium enrichment. Given the perfidy of the IAEA and the unlawful actions of Israel and the United States, Iranian officials would be fools to entertain such talks. That’s my opinion. We will see what Iranian officials say this week. leftcoms again showing that despite holding the title of bookworms never fucking read and just use it as a title to excuse their own aversion to organization
>For example, if tomorrow, Morocco were to declare war on France, India on England, Persia or China on Russia, and so forth, those would be “just,” “defensive” wars, irrespective of who attacked first; and every Socialist would sympathise with the victory of the oppressed, dependent, unequal states against the oppressing, slaveowning, predatory “great” powers. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/s-w/ch01.htm#s3>>2356332>>2356947>that conceals its betrayal and exploitation of Palestinian sufferingHow many guerrillas have formed those in that post text? enlighten me, you little twat. how many Hezbollahs have created the hands that wrote that text? where are they living? let me guess, comfy in a armchair in Europe.
TELL ME, YOU LITTLE CUNT>>2356948At least I don't fall for obvious ned/usaid propaganda.
>>2357033I don't think this post
>>2356986 agrees with the definition of being liberal, rather they are being snide:
>the more imperialism investment, the more imperialist the receipt is.>and when a whole lot of imperialism investment there is, the receipt becomes the Galactic Empire with death stars. >>2357031theve been doing it for over 20 threads despite statements from 4-5 iranian parties and 30+ international parties all being posted before and all agreeing.
every single party blames the US first, then Israel, and defends Iranian sovereignty, and calls for immediate peace. about half mention organizing for future overthrow as the key to actual liberation, which no one disagrees with but these people think that its an imposition by westerners posting on the internet preventing the revolution rather then the actual organizers saying they are not ready. theres only two left parties calling for overthrow right now, a reactionary non-communist union and soc-dem kurdish seperatists
>>2357045>Islamist Sorry I meant muslim
Islamists already dominant here
>>2357062Both of their statements were posted in full in the early posts of one of the threads few days ago.
Same result
I guess I won't get an answer on how many guerrillas these people have funded, have fought for, martyred to fight US/(proxy+puppet regimes)
>>2356332welp, that's the end of it, radlibs being radlibs for the nth time.
they expect a perfect nation doing their armchair job.
that's why they rush to defend Palestine, and not to defend any other nation that have taken action, to them Palestine that can't defend themselves is the true nation to support because it's doomed to survive, while others doing something is not enough for a paradigm they built in their heads while the true masters, the ones they vote for, the ones they don't rebel against, are there screwing Palestine.
>>2356402>But picture to yourselves a slave-owner who owned 100 slaves warring against a slave-owner who owned 200 slaves for a more “just” distribution of slaves.Ok? Any reason you chose to omit the preceding paragraph? The relationship between Iran and the US is considerably closer to the relationship between Imperial Russia and Persia or early 20th century China, than the relationship between, say, Italy and France jockeying for power. It's a quantitative rather than a qualitative difference.
>We will not support a struggle of the reactionary classes against imperialismSo are the US and Iran both neoliberal, or Iran actually has reactionary classes in charge? Reactionary classes (aka feudals) are barely, if at all relevant in the current day. It's imperialist bourgeoisie vs everyone else.
>>2357082The point of the compression isn't to mock resistoids for their inefficiency at killing Israeli soldiers, it is to point out their actual intended function as mercenaries for capital and maintaining the status quo no different than the US army in terms of function.
Have fun having your mind blown after I spelled it out for you.
>>2357008Maybe. The impression I've got of Hersh is that he works with the information that he's given, and the major source of that is his contacts in the government. And right now it seems like there's dissension in the government over whether or not the attacks were effective or not, with the initial assessment being "no" but the official stance being "yes."
So without being able to see the whole article and the justifications for it, I think it would be safest to say that it's at least reflective of the official thinking in Washington. It seems like right now the position in Israel is that they want to keep fighting, while Washington doesn't. If the damage reports posted earlier in the thread are true, then the standpoint that Fordow has been destroyed makes sense from Washington's perspective because they want to forestall Israeli aggression, because the longer the fight with Iran goes the higher the costs are going to be in Israel which seems to be on the brink of crisis anyway. Israel was (allegedly) only a few weeks away from being out of AD missiles, and iirc it's going to be two years before they've built up a reserve again. US patriot and THAAD reserves have also sharply declined and it's going to be years before they're built up again either. It's a seriously losing proposition for the US because continuing the conflict will mean ever increasing interventions to not only keep Israel from being hit, but from being plunged into total crisis and possibly collapse. The only way to ultimately avoid that would be to destroy Iran first, which the US is completely unprepared to do.
In that regard, Fordow being destroyed might be the most useful "official fiction" the US can employ right now. Regime change isn't really feasible at this point. But they can't be seen to be defeated or as though they're abandoning Israel. So with the official destruction of Fordow, the "safe haven of the Jews" has been successfully defended, and now Israel has no good reason to go to war with Iran. Not that that seems to matter to them.
>>2357097>Israel was one week away from total economic collapse.WHY SUPREME LEADER, WHY?!?!?!
WHY DID YOU NOT HARDEN YOUR HEART?!
WHY DID YOU NOT INCREASE YOUR ATTACKS?!
>>2357096Never post again bro
3 Lenin misquotes and I'll come for your mom
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/us-used-up-15-20-percent-global-thaad-arsenal-11-daysU.S. Used Up 15-20 Percent of its Global THAAD Anti-Missile Arsenal in Just 11 Days of Mid-Intensity Combat: Cost Over $800 Million
>The U.S. Army has been estimated to have consumed 15-20 of all munitions for its globally deployed arsenal of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) long range anti-missile systems, after deployment to support Israeli air defences during the country’s 11 days of hostilities with Iran. A highly specialised asset designed to intercept medium and intermediate range ballistic missiles, the U.S. Army fields seven systems across five air defence regiments, and is set to operationalise an eighth by the end of the year. The systems are depended on to counter the arsenals of five potential adversaries including North Korea, China, Russia and Belarus, as well as Iran. Video footage has shown the launch of 39 interceptors to intercept Iranian missiles from June 13-24, although only a small portion of launches were captured on film partly due to the strict wartime censorship that was put in place in Israel. Presuming at a conservative estimate that the filmed launches from THAAD batteries accounted for 50-66 percent of total launches, total expenditure of interceptors amounted to approximately 60-80 interceptors during the 11 day conflict.
>The expenditure of 60-80 interceptors is significant when considering a combination of three factors: their cost, the small numbers available, and the relatively low intensity of Iranian missile strikes. With each THAAD interceptor launch costing an estimated $12-15 million, air defence operations using the system deployed in Israel cost an estimated $810 million to $1.215 billion. The expenditure of this many interceptors represents 15-20 percent of the entire U.S. Army’s arsenal, which has significant implications far beyond the Middle East, and particularly in the Pacific. The intensity of Iranian-Israeli hostilities was relatively low, with Iran having fired ballistic missiles at a modest rate well below its actual capabilities in order to maintain a proportional response to Israeli attacks, avoid escalation, and retain a capacity to respond should the United States escalate by fully entering the war. A further factor in the low intensity of operations is that the THAAD system in Israel had more support from other anti-ballistic missile systems than it would in almost any other location, with Israel’s Arrow and Barak 8 systems also optimised for intercepting such high altitude missiles, while nearby AEGIS destroyers provided support with their SM-3 anti-ballistic missiles.
>Had Iran launched more intensive missile attacks, including using more missile with multiple warheads, or had it sustained bombardment beyond the 11 day conflict, the THAAD system in Israel would have seen its ability to contribute to air defence operations rapidly diminish. The system’s limitations have very significant implications for its viability both in the Middle East, and globally where it is relied on to counter arsenals that are significantly larger and more capable than that of Iran. The first foreign deployment of the THAAD system was made in June 2009 to protect Hawaii from North Korean intermediate range ballistic missiles, with a second system deployed on Guam in 2013, followed by a third in South Korea from 2016. THAAD batteries and radars have also been tested on Wake Island, which has gained growing importance in American plans for a potential war with North Korea and China, and is expected to be protected by the systems in wartime. Russia’s recent introduction of the Oreshnik intermediate range ballistic missile, its sharing of the missiles with Belarus, and its procurement of North Korean Pukkuksong-2 medium range ballistic missiles, are expected to also lead to calls to also deploy THAAD systems in Europe. Thus the rate at which the arsenal of THAAD interceptors was depleted in Israel’s defence despite highly favourable conditions bodes ill for the systems’ viability in future medium and high intensity conflicts, as well as the affordability of its operations. >>2357109HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
AN ENTIRE YEAR'S DISCRETIONARY MILITARY BUDGET FOR 2 WEEKS OF DEFENDING JIZZRAEL
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>2357106because the zionists already warned of nuking everyone if their state were at risk. not that it would matter to anyone in the west, and their reputation is already destroyed in the global south, so that would make a living catastrophe to Iran, while other Muslim nations take the cake for doing nothing.
>>2356967hey, where the video of the scientist talking about the Fordow performance, able to withstand the bunkerbusters?
>>2357106The assessment seems to be that while Iran was doing serious damage to Israel, Iran was taking serious damage as well. Though this would be smaller proportionately to what was happening in Israel.
If I were to guess, physically destroying Israel itself wouldn't be a cinch. Even if they did level all of geographic Israel, as long as it's getting support from Nato, you're still risking some shit like israeli jets taking off from Cyprus loaded with nuclear weapons. While Israel’s attempt to totally take out Iranian AD didn't totally succeed, Israel was still able to hit Iran pretty consistently, so I don't think it would have been wise of Iran to push Israel into a corner and then roll the dice on intercepting a nuclear strike.
The impression I'm also getting is that Netanyahu seems to be the linchpin of this whole operation, and between the corruption trial and the narrowly averted no confidence vote, maybe Iran is betting on domestic "regime change" to solve their problem for them.
>>2357117here
lol copied the wrong one
>>2357105>misquotesProviding a quote and explaining it in a way that you don't like isn't "misquoting".
>big vs small bourgeoisie wars are basically the sameYes, wars between imperialist bourgeoisie and national bourgeoisie in the 21st century are basically the same as wars between imperialist and nascent bourgeoisie in the early 20th century. To disprove this, show me Iranian companies that seriously compete with Western companies in the redivision of the Middle East let alone the world, show me an Iranian-run equivalent to IMF, WTO, NATO, show me Iranian media conglomerates that control 2/3 of global information exchange
>reactionary class refers only to feudalismIn that context, yes. He clearly talks about pre-capitalist classes struggling against imperialism.
>ergo we must support the national bourgeoisieYes, Lenin supported the Kemalists and the Kuomingtang and even the Japanese national bourgeoisie against the Russian imperialist bourgeoisie.
>>2357136>The assessment seems to be that while Iran was doing serious damage to Israel, Iran was taking serious damage as well.I think it's simple – Iran doesn't want the war. They were attacked by Israel, and I think they wanted the U.S. to pull their little attack dog's chain so Israel stops bombing them. And they had a good strategy of depleting Israeli interceptors to force the Israelis to rely more on the U.S., which makes the Israelis more dependent on U.S. pressure to stop the attacks (at least for now), because they need the U.S. to bail them out. And Iran does not want a war with the United States. Yes, they see the U.S. as an enemy but tactically they know it's in their interest to try and de-link Israel from the U.S. as much as possible, and whenever and wherever it's possible, while Bibi wants to link the U.S. and Israel together as much as possible.
>The impression I'm also getting is that Netanyahu seems to be the linchpin of this whole operation, and between the corruption trial and the narrowly averted no confidence vote, maybe Iran is betting on domestic "regime change" to solve their problem for them.He might call a snap election because bombing Iran is popular with Israelis, and that's probably a factor. But Netanyahu is very smart and not to be underestimated. I think his W in his situation is getting Israel and the U.S. to cooperate directly in a military operation for the first time (at least this publicly and on this scale) and establish a precedent there. He plays the angles like cutting a deal with Arafat to pull Israeli troops from Palestinian cities in the West Bank while adding a catch that allowed him to retain military control over other areas and "security zones," which created the conditions for more settlements.
>>2357143>Well the Israelis are also claiming (like the Trump administration now) that the attack on Fordow did more damage than the DIA report said it did, which doesn't fit your theory that Israel wants to keep going but the U.S. doesn't. It's possible the DIA report might've been a preliminary report that aired on the more conservative side.Yeah, it's hard for me to say definitively both because there's so much contradictory information and because official stories and stances keep changing. Like there was the expert assessment that to have any hope of destroying Fordow that there would have to be sustained bombing over the site before the BBs were even deployed, then they they'd have to all hit the same spot in succession. Then there's even the question on if the BBs were used at all or if other standoff weapons were used. On top of that there were reports that all the nuclear material and equipment were removed from fordow beforehand and the entrances barricaded and filled in to prevent damage. At the very least, the visual information that we do have shows impact sites scattered over the area, which seems to speak against any serious damage to the facility, at least based on the previous assumptions.
As far as Israel's stance is concerned, I think it's safe to say that they want more war, one way or the other. It seems to be split between those that want it now, and those that are willing to wait before continuing. It seems like the reality of Israel's current precarity is winning out, and the intention is to put Iran on the back burner while finishing off Gaza.
https://www.ynetnews.com/opinions-analysis/article/s1vjhu00nxg
>A third major task will be tracking whether Iran is willing to reengage quickly in nuclear negotiations with the U.S., and how flexible it is regarding American demands. The issue is not only whether Tehran will agree to halt uranium enrichment on its own soil, but also whether it’s willing to limit its missile program. The pace and nature of those negotiations—and particularly whether Iran allows strict, intrusive inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency—will help determine whether the war met its strategic objectives. If Iran refuses to compromise on both nuclear and missile issues and blocks effective oversight, Israel may have to reconsider its course of action.
>Both damage assessments and negotiations over a new nuclear deal could take several months, possibly up to half a year. If, by then, results are unsatisfactory from Israel’s perspective, or if Iran drags its feet, another military confrontation may be necessary—ideally coordinated with Washington. Either way, Israel must already begin preparing for that possibility. That includes closing the significant gaps in the country’s civil defense infrastructure, particularly in fortified shelters and safe rooms. Without such protection, no government could ethically justify entering another conflict from a position of strength.
>Another urgent priority is ending the war in Gaza and securing the return of the hostages. Failing to bring them home would severely damage Israel’s national resilience.I'm willing to admit I could be wrong. It's hard to get a bead on exactly what the intentions of the US or Israel are, or why. Trump seems personally invested in at least winning the peace prize, but he and his cabinet have changed positions pretty radically for reasons that don't seem entirely clear. There also seems to be more dissent in the US gov as far as a new war is concerned, or at least more concern over the potential consequences, like the strait of Hormuz.
I think US and Israel both have practical reasons for wanting to delay the conflict. July 4 is just a few weeks away, and if closing the strait sent gas prices up to catastrophic levels, that alone would be a disaster on top of everything else. 6 months would mean approx 250 more patriot missiles to arm their batteries with, and push the potential conflict back until the new year and after the economically essential holiday season. Not to mention 6 more months to harden American bases, move in more troops and supplies, and give mossad the chance to recoup its operational losses.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-700-arrested-for-wartime-ties-with-israel-3-alleged-mossad-agents-hanged/
>Iran says 700 arrested for wartime ties with Israel; 3 alleged Mossad agents hanged <Islamic Republic executes men it says smuggled equipment into the country that was used for an assassination; carried out similar death sentences Sunday and Mondayhttps://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-859010
>Israel will be in Iran for years to come, Mossad head David Barnea saysIn a talk to agents, he said they have achieved 'unimaginable' heights in Iran ops. Working from the information that I have, it seems like a seriously mixed bag of conflicting personal and official goals, needs, and desires. Speaking generally I think US and Israel both want Iran brought low, but there are differences in the priorities for each country. Israel seems to be in the position where its like the Blues Mobile: it's racing along now, but it will collapse the second it stops. The US needs Iran either friendly or destroyed, but under the current circumstances they'd have to force the issue and the costs for doing so might create a pyrrhic result regardless of the outcome.
In any event, I think this "happening" is far from over.
>>2357208>100% agree with that. But I'm thinking now that one of their goals was to establish a basis to strike Iran repeatedly in the future. Like a week from now, kaboom, something blows up in Tehran, someone is killed. Then two weeks later it happens again. Iran rebuilds its AD and Israel hits those again. And they make that the new normal. Then in a couple of years there's a major war.Yeah, I think we're entering the "war by other means" stage. Iranian internal support seems stronger than they were anticipating, so finding means to undermine it seems like the priority. If Iran is purging mossad assets then rebuilding those would be a prerequisite before attacking again. "A couple years" seems to me like too long of a time frame since that could expose the operation to shifts in us/israel domestic politics, but who knows.
>>2357214Probably not a bad guess. Pressure has to be put on Iran somehow and that has traditionally been a cost effective way to do it.
>>2357230I've seen reports of similar sentiments. Even before this most recent phase of the war started, I was seeing reports of small scale resistance within the IOF as reservists are getting worn out and refusing further service. When Hezbollah was still shooting at Israel, the 100k or so refugees that left the north were also a big pain in the neck for the state since they represented such a large financial drain, and were constantly lobbying for something to be done so they could return home. Now with much of the country shut down and the general population having to shelter from Iranian bombs, I'd think that would be producing similar problems.
It's hard for me to speculate on exactly what this means though. Like the protests early on in the war where they weren't protesting the genocide but that Netanyahu wasn't being ruthless enough. Even if the average Israeli was upset about being bombed, I don't know what kind of pressure that would put on Netanyahu’s government, if any.
>>2357088I don't think anyone who argues that all capitalist states attempt some amount of imperialist expansion are saying that they are therefore all similar in strength.
I mean Rwanda and Uganda intervening in the Congo does not at all imply they are on anywhere near the same level as the U.S. or France, even if it can be said they are engaged in a form of imperialism.
>>2357259fucking rightoids will screech about muh gene pool after their government was top 2 second donor of weapons of the zionists government.
I hate this fucking clown world.
>>2357373Kek that's what makes it such a funny irony, meanwhile the nazis are yelling
>WHERE DO YOU RETARDS THINK THE REFUGEES KEEP COMING FROM?And the entirety of the German political class is like
<ANOTHER WAVE! MUH STAATSRASON! >>2357519Holy shit that's funny.
Well played to the Iranians for going along with it.
>>2357345>ignores the rest of the tweet about "muh bolsheviks did the christian holocaust reeeeeee">>2357370it's just fun and games. nobody here praises her sincerely. how convenient. the reactionaries always hides behind that excuse. no good americans …. except candace owens and nick fuentes and tucker carlson and kanye west and… but it's all just a double triple post ironic joke bro don't take it seriously. we will always dogpile on opinions that are contrary to our "jokes" though, either for being "wrong" or for stopping our "fun" depending on how dedicated we are to the "joke" excuse at any given moment. just
>>2355790 at this point.
>>2357232Ah yes, the dialectical super science of Ye-Owens thought.
I'm also waiting for MTG to quote The Protocols on the house floor.
>>2357536Was convinced this is what they were doing from the beginning. Smart move.
>>2357519JVCHE NECRQMANCY!
JVCHE NECRQMANCY!
JVCHE NECRQMANCY!
JVCHE NECRQMANCY!
>>2357252neoliberalism is when
>deregulation >privatization >austerity and >union busting in response to falling rate of profit but what we see with the anti west bloc is the opposite:
<tighter regulation<wartime nationalization<some redistribution to increase solidarity<strong labor movements and unionsI don't think this is communism, I think this is limited wartime social democracy, but that's still not neoliberalism
>>2357646>Yeah, the claim seems to be true. Reliable reports indicate that Admiral Ali Shamkhani, Major General Ismail Qaani, General Abdul Rahim Mousavi, and Aziz Nasrzadeh are alive despite Israeli allegations of assassination. Shamkhani was wounded but recovering, Qaani reappeared in Tehran, Mousavi was appointed chief of staff, and Nasrzadeh was active, according to recent statements. Despite initial rumors on social media, reliable sources do not confirm their deaths, which supports their survival. >>2357648See
>>2356882 >>2356167Thanks for conceding that you critically support neolibs
Look, you’re not supposed to say this out loud, but I’m gonna say it: Iran and Israel are in on it together. Yeah, I know sounds insane, right? But once you see it, you can’t unsee it. The whole “mortal enemies” narrative? It’s theater. A geopolitical puppet show.
These two socalled adversaries are basically doing pro wrestling on the world stage throwing punches in public while shaking hands backstage. Think about it Israel needs Iran to be this looming, apocalyptic threat so it can justify nonstop militarization, foreign aid, and surveillance expansion at home.
The minute Iran goes away as the big bad, the whole Israeli security state starts to look a little overbuilt. Meanwhile, Iran thrives off the Israel boogeyman. It keeps the people scared, distracted, and obedient.
> Don’t worry about inflation or protests, we’ve got Zionists to fight!
It’s a perfect business model.
Israel and Iran gov coordinate through backchannels. They plan attacks. Staged assassinations. Surgical bombings that conveniently never hit anything too vital. Ever notice how it’s always a “targeted strike” or “proxy skirmish”? Never full war. Why? Because they’re managing the narrative. Keeping the tension juuuust high enough to feed the military-industrial complex, but not enough to collapse the system.
It’s a controlled demolition of reality, and everyone’s playing their role.
The symbol of Israel is the star of Remphan, the convergence of the maxim as above so below.
The light and the shadow, the theatre that they sell to your face, while they have backdoor deals with the Iranian Jewish occupied government, that are run by Israeli glow uyghurs.
Reject their false duality, embrace the third position and realise that both sides are run by jews.
The whole Iran-Israel conflict is a carefully managed cash machine dressed up as a holy war. The U.S. gives Israel $3.8 billion a year, but it's not aid it's a legalized laundering scheme: the money can only be spent on U.S. weapons, so Israel buys missiles, jets, and spy tech from American defense giants, who then pour their profits into lobbying and campaign donations to make sure the gravy train never stops. It’s a taxpayer funded kickback loop between Congress, weapons manufacturers, and a heavily militarized foreign state. But here’s the twist: Iran, the “arch-nemesis,” keeps mysteriously staying afloat too despite sanctions, isolation, and economic collapse. Why? Because it’s part of the same script. Billions flow into Iran through shadowy channels oil sales via intermediaries like China, Iraq, and Turkey, obscure cryptocurrency networks, and even intelligence linked smuggling rings. It’s tolerated even enabled because Iran’s role in the play is just as crucial: the villain that justifies the hero’s endless budget. Every time Iran enriches uranium or funds a proxy militia, Israel gets another Iron Dome shipment, and the arms industry gets another multi billion-dollar contract. The Ayatollah and the Knesset are playing opposite ends of the same chessboard, both keeping their populations in a state of fear, both feeding off each other’s existence. It's not war it's ritual conflict, maintained by backdoor money and mutual dependence, with the American taxpayer picking up the tab for the whole sick performance.
When the Jews say, those who bless Israel, God will bless those, you should now begin to understand what they mean.
Your Christians preachers are funded by the MIC.
Every nation that has blessed the MIC, God has blessed them with kickbacks from the war machine and all of those who have cursed their corruption have a war machine brought to their country.
When, you begin to understand that the tentacles of the Jews are funding your so called pastors and sermons to get public support for Israel.
Which is nothing but the military industrial complex using the ignorant christ cucks to support corruption & genocide
Remember when every liberal was confused why Iran attacked Qatar, its closest ally in the gulf, out all other shitholes? Well they did so precisely because they had enough links with Qatar for the this little charade of an attack.
How pathetic campists are to defend bourgeois states for such gestures
>>2357778>ITS DAAAAA JUICEEEEEEEMe when I'm a liberal and don't know what capitalism is
>>2357778Based Analysis Comrade, with the caveat that you should specify Zionist Jews in order to clarify that not all Jews are Zionists (I get that most are, but it is not fair to tarnish the few that are not with the same brushstroke, and by doing this you can deflect the inevitable “Anti-Semitism” accusations), ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
As I have stated for a long time, any Dialectical Materialist Analysis shows that Iran plays the same role as the U$ Democrats in the Middle East, a Lesser Evil Bourgeois Controlled Opposition to the Greater Evil of U$ Imperialism and the Zionist State, just like China plays the U$ Democrat role of Lesser Evil Bourgeois Controlled Opposition to the Greater Evil of U$ Imperialism in the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, with the massive caveat that a Maoist faction taking over the CCP and purging the Dengists could place China back in the Socialist Mode of Production on the Shining Path to Communism without another Maoist PPW their, due to the fact that all Inter-Bourgeois and Inter-Imperialist Conflicts are Kabuki theaters from the standpoint of the International Communist Movement, with the Mossad Mullahs originally used by the U$/Zionist State to begin destroying Baathist Iraq with U$/Zionist weapons in the Iran-Iraq War in order to prevent the unification of the Arab Nation into one state under the leadership of the magnificent Saddam Hussein, who would have forced the Zionists to withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza decades ago, with this also being why despite all of the phony threats, the Mossad Mullahs will never shut down the strait of Hormuz or Bomb Saudi Oil fields, only Saddam had the balls to do this, and that’s why (along with the fact that Saddam was the last Arab leader who wanted to reunify the Arab Nation into one State and liberate Palestine from the Zionist State) the U$ Invaded Iraq and murdered him and a million other Iraqis, and I think it is becoming clear that the Shah handed power to the Ayatollah on purpose (under U$/Zionist orders), knowing that it would spark the Sunni-Shia conflict that fractured the Arab Nation, destroyed the Baathist movement, and doomed Palestine, as part of an elaborate U$/Zionist operation which included the October Surprise (HW Bush told Iran to hold the hostages until after the election in order to make Reagan beat Carter in 1980, thus sparking the rise of Neoliberalism and the Christian Zionist Evangelicals which culminated in the current Fascist MAGAtard regime), Iran-Contra (The U$ using illegal weapons sales to Iran through the Zionist State to fund the Anti-Communist Contras in Central America and spark the exaggerated “Crack epidemic” to throw millions of Blacks/New Afrikans in Prison, stop Communism in Central America, and destroy Baathist Iraq and save the Zionist State from a United Arab Nation by promoting Sunni-Shia conflict and Islamist retardation from both Iran and Saudi Arabia), and Project Hammer (the final destruction of the USSR by the bribed Revisionist clique of Gorbachev/Yeltsin in coordination with the CIA/Mossad, and the hidden cause of Bush’s 9/11 CIA/Mossad False Flag attacks to provide the Casus Belli for the Genocidal U$ Imperialist Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and probably Putin’s GRU/FSB False Flag Moscow Apartment Bombings to provide the Casus Belli for the Genocidal Russian Imperialist Invasion of Chechnya as well), 😂🤣🤢🤮!
In conclusion, the only hope for Palestine, the entire Arab Nation, and the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World, is that the inevitable World War III between the U$ and PRC will escalate into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the Global USSR are shown in the first map I posted, and I plan on posting an improved version of this Map by the end of this month, which will finally divide Sub-Saharan Africa into an appropriate number of SSRs based on its Ethno-Linguistic demographics, which I have been thoroughly researching over the last couple months, while the second Map specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the Global USSR in the Middle East/West Asia are shown, with the difference between it and the first Map being that I added Hatay and Arabistan to the Arab SFSR, added Nagorno-Karabakh to the Azeri SSR due to the tragic recent ethnic cleansing of the Armenians there, tweaked the borders of the Kurdish SSR to fully align with the Ethno-Linguistic results of the 1965 Turkish Census, and merged the Tajik SSR and Hazara SSR into the Persian SSR, with the latter becoming an ASSR within it, and it is also worth noting that the North African portion of the Arab SFSR is not shown here because Mapchart doesn’t let me zoom in with the key on both West Asia and North Africa so I chose to show the former) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
https://www.tarikcyrilamar.com/p/iran-brics-and-the-dangers-of-strategic?
>That fact in and of itself can be read as an incentive to the West and especially the US: It seems, so some in Washington are certain to argue, that while direct assaults on Russia or China would come with great risks, BRICS can be sabotaged and neutralized by picking off individual member states that are less strong. Every time the West will do so, it will also signal that whatever BRICS may do for its members, it won’t keep them safe. Indeed, membership may make them more attractive targets for a West fighting to preserve its declining dominance.
>In such a – likely – scenario, it won’t help BRICS as a whole or Russia or China to reiterate that BRICS is not meant as a security alliance. The predictably gloating answer to that from the West will be “We can see that! And you will see what we’ll do to you.”
>BRICS, put differently, may have had good reasons to stay out of this fight this time. But if BRICS makes this response into a pattern, its default response for the future, the West will bleed its legitimacy and global standing to death, one war of aggression -or successful bullying by the threat of it – at a time. Hence, BRICS must now face an issue that I pointed out long ago: Simply relying on an inexorably unfolding logic of multipolarity to finally demote and cage the West will not work. Because the West will resist this development tooth and nail, ruthlessly and with the added meanness that comes from being cornered by history itself. And next to Russia and China, BRICS and its members will be its single most important target. >>2358308“BRICS” was originally a Wall Street PR Investment Gimmick acronym for Comprador Capitalist “Emerging Market” Sweatshop countries (with the exception of the complicated case of China, every other one of these “countries” is an absolute Comprador Capitalist joke with zero sovereignty) created by Goldman Sachs, and they don’t even exist as a cohesive bloc considering the fact that China and India have deadly border clashes every few years, with the role of the Controlled Opposition “BRICS” in the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System being vaguely equivalent to that of the Clintonite Third Way/New Democrats in the U$, with the caveat that China is probably more similar to the Bernie/AOC DSA Social Democrat wing because they still have a lot of State-owned companies and call themselves “Socialist”, while the others are full-blown Neoliberal Clintonites, with India not even playing the Controlled Opposition game as they are like Manchin/Sinema Blue Dogs that are on the verge of flipping “parties” to the Republicans (is. becoming an open U$ Puppet State, 😂🤣🤢🤮! By the way, what do think of my In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis of the Kabuki Theatre Conflict between the “Islamic Republic of Iran” and the Zionist State at
>>2358233 , 🤔?
https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/israel-suffered-extensive-damageIsrael Suffered Extensive Damage
>Despite the arduous efforts of Israeli censors to hide the devastation Iran inflicted on Israel with its barrage of ballistic missiles during the 12-Day War, information is emerging that destroys the myth that Israel had an impregnable air defense. The map at the head of this article reveals the sites targeted by Iran. Based on the videos of strikes in Haifa and Tel Aviv, I think this map accurately portrays the massive scale of the Iranian attack. For the first time in its history, Israel took a major beating.
>According to various Israeli media reports, damage spanned residential buildings, scientific infrastructure (e.g., labs at the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot), the Israeli Defense Ministry complex, and commercial hubs like the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. Iran also struck a military target near the Soroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva. The medical center was hit by the blast wave, which caused extensive structural damage, a chemical leak, and dozens of injuries. The Israeli press claimed this was a direct strike on Soroka, but the fact that no one was killed undermines that claim.
>Iran also struck the following residential areas, reportedly targeting Israeli military and intelligence officials:
<Bat Yam: 9 killed, ~200 wounded; high-rise apartments destroyed.
<Ramat Gan: Nine buildings destroyed, hundreds displaced.
<Haifa and Tel Aviv: Strikes near military HQs (“Kirya”) and civilian neighborhoods.
>Iran also caused extensive damage to the Port of Haifa and the Port of Ashdod (note, I had no information on the latter when I posted yesterday), as well as the refineries at Haifa and Ashdod. Israel has maintained a complete blackout on the damage to its military and intelligence facilities, but the sites identified on the map above indicate that Iran likely enjoyed similar success as that observed in Haifa and Tel Aviv.
>The following brief video shows Tel Aviv — before and after. Israel got a taste of what it has done to the Palestinians in Gaza; it was a painful morsel.
>Despite Donald Trump’s specious claim that the US obliterated Iran’s nuclear program, Israel’s Defense Minister Katz is telling a different story:
>So, what will Iran do? According to Ayatollah Khameni, Iran will continue to enrich uranium. While the US and the IAEA will be stomping their feet and clamoring for Iran to give it up, I don’t think that Iran is in a charitable mood. Trump has painted himself into a corner by his insistent and repeated claim that the US strikes eliminate Iran’s uranium enrichment program. How can Iran surrender something that Trump says no longer exists?
>CNN is reporting that Trump is offering Iran a deal that is likely to cause Bibi Netanyahu to have a stroke:
>Personally, I find it incomprehensible that Iran would trust any deal offered by Trump in light of his betrayal of the previous negotiations — i.e., he allowed Israel to launch the decapitation strike on June 13 rather than postpone the action in order to continue talks, which were schedule for June 15. My advice to Iran is simple: solidify your military ties to Russia and China, launch a massive counterintelligence campaign to identify and eliminate those elements collaborating with Mossad and Western intelligence agencies, replenish and harden air-defense systems, and build more ballistic missiles.
>Iran’s situation reminds me of the scene from The Godfather, when Don Corleone’s sons debated about how to respond to the attempted murder of their father.
>There is a critical difference… I am not advocating that Iran strike back, as did Michael, by killing Sollozo and the corrupt police captain. However, if there are any Iranian authorities who believe that Israel and Western intelligence agencies have given up on their dream of murdering Iranian leaders and collapsing the Iranian regime, they should be removed from office.
>In Washington, the brawl between Trump and the intelligence community is not over. I anticipate that DIA, the CIA and the NSA will be producing additional intel that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that Iran moved the enriched Uranium.. Trump boxed himself in with this statement today:
<White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt had said on ABC News on Monday the U.S. was “confident” Iran’s nuclear program was “completely and totally obliterated,” noting there was a “high degree of confidence” the locations the U.S. strikes took place is where Iran stored its enriched uranium and that Iran “no longer [has] the capability … to threaten the world.”
>But the Telegraph is reporting, thanks to Israeli sources, the opposite:
<Donald Trump will demand that Iran hand over all its enriched uranium as the price for peace, according to Israeli sources.
>A report ahead of next week’s US-Iran talks said the US is requiring the Islamic Republic to give up any nuclear fuel enriched to 60 per cent or more, which is near weapons-grade.
>Maybe the Iranians have a mischievous sense of humor and will tell Trump’s negotiators, “How can we turn over something that President Trump said he obliterated?” At some point, I expect Trump will do one of his pivots and admit that Iran is hiding its enriched uranium. >>2358403>Israel got a taste of what it has done to the Palestinians in Gaza; it was a painful morsel.You pimping your own blog here, uhh?..
>Larry C JohnsonWhomst?
>Managing Partner of BERG Associates, former CIA Officer and State Department Counter Terrorism official.What the f-
https://karlof1.substack.com/p/khameneis-speech-to-iran?
Khamenei's Speech to Iran
>As most know, Trump yet again delivered bombast instead of truth, although Khamenei was able to pick out the one shred of truth that tumbled from Trump’s maw. What sort of admission it will become in time is unknown at the present. But it will bolster the Iranian nation even more than the attacks themselves. And in that case alone, Trump made yet another major mistake. I won’t spoil Khamenei’s words by telling readers now. The speech is short, and you’ll soon find out:
<In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
<My greetings and best wishes to the dear, great nation of Iran. First, I would like to honor the memory of the esteemed martyrs from recent events – the martyred generals and scientists who were truly, genuinely valuable for the Islamic Republic. They dedicated their lives to serving others. Today, they are with God receiving the reward for their outstanding services, God willing.
<I find it necessary to offer my congratulations to the great nation of Iran. I congratulate the nation for several reasons.
<First of all, I offer my congratulations on the victory over the fallacious Zionist regime. With all that commotion and all those claims, the Zionist regime was practically knocked out and crushed under the blows of the Islamic Republic. The thought that the Islamic Republic could inflict such blows on that regime never even crossed their minds and they never imagined such a thing, but this is what happened.
<We thank God for helping our Armed Forces. They were able to break through the enemy’s advanced, multi-layered defense and raze many of their urban and military areas under the pressure brought by Iran’s missiles and powerful attacks using advanced weaponry. This is one of the greatest divine blessings. It has shown the Zionist regime that attacking the Islamic Republic of Iran carries a heavy price. It will be costly for them. It will result in and generate a heavy cost for them. And praise God, this has happened. This honor is due to our Armed Forces and our dear people who’ve built, trained, and supported these Armed Forces from within themselves, enabling and empowering them to carry out such a great task.
<My second congratulations is related to our dear Iran’s victory over the US regime. The US regime entered the war directly because it felt that if it didn’t, the Zionist regime would be completely destroyed. It entered the war in an effort to save that regime but achieved nothing. It attacked our nuclear facilities, which warrants an independent criminal prosecution in an international court, of course. But they weren’t able to achieve anything significant. The US President used a bizarre exaggeration in describing what happened. It’s evident he needed such an exaggeration. Whoever heard his remarks knew that beneath the surface of these words lay another truth, which was that they weren’t able to accomplish anything. They failed to achieve their intended goal and they exaggerate things to cover up and conceal the truth.
<Here too, the Islamic Republic has been victorious and delivered a heavy slap to the US’s face in return. It [Iran] attacked and inflicted damage on the Al-Udeid Air Base, which is one of the US’s key bases in the region. The same people who made exaggerated claims in the previous case, tried to downplay this one, claiming that nothing much had happened. But in fact, a major event had taken place. The fact that the Islamic Republic has access to key US centers in the region and can take action whenever it deems necessary is a significant matter. It’s quite significant. Such an action can be repeated in the future too. Should any aggression occur, the enemy - the aggressor - will definitely pay a heavy price.
<My third congratulations is for the remarkable unity and solidarity shown by the Iranian nation. Praise God, a nation of approximately 90 million people stood together as one, were united in voice, stood shoulder to shoulder, and didn’t show any differences in their demands or the goals they expressed. They stood together, chanted slogans, spoke out, and supported the actions of the Armed Forces, and this will continue to be the case in the future. The Iranian nation demonstrated its greatness and its distinguished, exceptional character in this event. It showed that when it’s necessary, a unified voice will be heard from this nation, and praise God, this is what happened.
<The key point I wish to emphasize in my speech is this that in one of his remarks, the President of the United States declared that Iran must surrender. Surrender! The issue isn’t about enrichment or the nuclear industry anymore. It’s about Iran surrendering. Needless to say, this statement is too big to come out of the US president's mouth.
<For the great country of Iran – a nation with such a history, such a rich culture, and a steadfast national determination – any talk of surrender is nothing but a mockery in the eyes of those who truly know the Iranian people. But his statement revealed a certain reality, which is that the US has been actively opposing and trying to harm Islamic Iran from the very beginning of the Revolution. And each time, they come up with a new pretext. One time, it’s human rights. Another time, it’s defending democracy. Then, it’s women's rights. Sometimes it’s uranium enrichment, and at other times it’s the nuclear issue itself. Or it’s the matter of missile development. They bring up all kinds of pretexts. But at the core, it all boils down to one thing, which is that they want Iran to surrender. The previous administrations never openly stated this because it’s something unacceptable. It isn’t justifiable by any human logic to tell a nation that they must surrender. That’s why they were disguising this objective behind other titles and pretexts.
<This person let the truth out. He showed this reality that the US will only be satisfied with Iran’s surrender and nothing less. This is a crucial point. The Iranian nation must know that the core of the conflict with the US is over this point. The US is greatly insulting the people of Iran, and such a thing will never happen. It will never happen.
<The Iranian nation is a great nation. Iran is a strong, vast country. It possesses an ancient civilization. Our cultural and civilizational wealth is hundreds of times greater than that of the US and other similar countries. Anyone who expects Iran to surrender to another country is spouting nonsense that will surely be ridiculed by wise, knowledgeable people. The Iranian nation is noble and will remain noble.
<The Iranian nation is victorious and will remain victorious, by the grace of God. We are hopeful that Almighty God will continuously protect this nation under His grace, preserving it with dignity and honor. May He elevate the spiritual rank of Imam [Khomeini (ra)]. And may Imam Mahdi (may our souls be sacrificed for him) be pleased and satisfied with this nation, and may he support it with his assistance.
<May God’s greetings, mercy, and blessings be upon you. [My Emphasis]
>Given that Iran now knows with 100% certainty what the Outlaw US Empire demands, there’re no longer any grounds for negotiations excepting one: Iran will rejoin the NPT when the Zionists enroll themselves. I expect the papers Iran has incriminating Grossi and the IAEA will be published when Iran votes to withdraw from the NPT. I expect other outcomes will occur as a result of the conflict, some obvious like becoming closer to Russia and China militarily and a change in relations with Azerbaijan, and some not so obvious like the degree of further isolation of the Collective West from the Global Majority. I’m also curious to see what happens with Japan and South Korea’s relations with the Empire once the tariff deadline arrives as this conflict IMO will have a bearing on what occurs. And then there’s Taiwan. Its separatists can’t like what they just observed as the Empire’s most important proxy was partially thrown under the bus, >>2358421I would imagine the vast majority of industrial structures of any kind are flimsy because they typically use the least metal for bearing whatever necessary pressure or heat involved as safely possible
Like dropping a HIMARS in a giant complex like Azovstal or Magnitogorsk and it may look the same after, but it's all full of holes now
>>2357740it's just
>putin must go!<umm replaced with who>islamophobic neoliberal navalny of course!all over again
earlier in this thread my post was removed for
reasons so i am reformulating:
https://www.pcbs.gov.ps/site/512/default.aspx?tabID=512&lang=en&ItemID=5901&mid=3171&wversion=Stagingaccording to this page by the palestinian central bureau of statistics 100,000 people have left gaza since the war began but i thought israel had banned people from getting out and egypt was also preventing them? so how have these people gotten out and where have they gone?
>>2358483>israel had banned people from getting outwhy? don't they want to an exodus
>>2358484>palis are subhuman too but…nice source
>>2358483>according to this page by the palestinian central bureau of statistics 100,000 people have left gaza since the war began but i thought israel had banned people from getting out and egypt was also preventing them? so how have these people gotten out and where have they gone?they're dead but presooooooomed missing by the genocide enablers
>>2358489>why? don't they want to an exodusno they want a genocide. the nazis also "merely deported" people to areas they subsequently invaded and slaughtered the very same people they had previously "merely deported"
isn't it WEIRD how ethnonationalists always want to "purify" their state of "foreigners" (locals of the wrong race) by making them everyone else's problem and violating everyone else's national sovereignty?
>>2358511*MaoZedong Lingo
Mao had this obsession of EIGHT Principles, THREE Goods, FIVE Directives etc
>>2358541It's a Chinese thing I think. I remember seeing that one of the leaders once published his plan on something like "Construction of A Socialist Developed Society in China" and nobody gave a shit, so he republished it as "The Seven Principles of Socialist Development" and everyone read it kek
Can't remember any of the details so made up the titles
>>2358557That is the only thing Trump does that makes any sense, as I have always thought that Important Words should be Capitalized, and this is something that is found in lots of Maoist literature as well, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️! By the way Would any of my fellow Comrade like to give an intellectual critique of my In-Depth Dialectical Materialistic Analysis of the Kabuki Theatre Conflict between the “Islamic Republic of Iran” and the Zionist State, and the fact that “BRICS” was a “Emerging Market” Sweatshop investment gimmick acronym invented by Goldman Sachs that plays the same role as the Controlled Opposition Democrats, at
>>2358233 and
>>2358398 , respectively, 🤔?
>>2358489>palis are subhuman too thats your source thats alex jonesLying JIDF globalist scum
AJ literally said that zionists dehumanize palestinians by calling them subhuman in the video, he has and still remains opposed to the zionist state.
The only reason he called palestinians "hyped up and psychotic" was because this was literally filmed THE DAY AFTER 9/11 when Fox came out with a video of Palestinians cheering on the deaths of the inside job.
>>2358575Even more proofs, countless proofs, irrefutable.
AJ has done more for the EZLN natlibs buying their coffee, the global south, the Palestinian resistance and whatever you trotskyist
>>2358489 >>2358578 satanic scum liberals have ever done trying to smear him as a nazi.
>>2358607I would rather watch his rants on satanic globalists than have to witness another faggot like Hasan, Agent Kochinski or any shitlib breadtuber give his opinion on ANYTHING.
For one AJ is actually capable of dropping truthnukes once in awhile, whereas breadtubers are all the same brainless fucking sheep parroting the same mid takes, incapable of creating anything new.
>B… BUT WHAT IF WE VOOT BLUEMeanwhile AJ:
<NOTHING EVER HAPPENS, WE'RE ALL HEADED TOWARDS NUCLEAR WAR, RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >>2358596As I explained in my Dialectical Materialist Analysis of the Kabuki Theatre Conflict between the “Islamic Republic of Iran” and the Zionist State at
>>2358233 , Saddam Hussein was a Based Baathist Secular Leftist Arab Nationalist (The greatest modern Arab leader) who was 100% justified in his valiant effort to liberate Arabistan from the Mossad Mullahs originally used by the U$/Zionist State to begin destroying Baathist Iraq with U$/Zionist weapons in the Iran-Iraq War in order to prevent the unification of the Arab Nation into one state under the leadership of the magnificent Saddam Hussein, who would have forced the Zionists to withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza decades ago, with this also being why despite all of the phony threats, the Mossad Mullahs will never shut down the strait of Hormuz or Bomb Saudi Oil fields, only Saddam had the balls to do this, and that’s why (along with the fact that Saddam was the last Arab leader who wanted to reunify the Arab Nation into one State and liberate Palestine from the Zionist State) the U$ Invaded Iraq and murdered him and a million other Iraqis, and I think it is becoming clear that the Shah handed power to the Ayatollah on purpose (under U$/Zionist orders), knowing that it would spark the Sunni-Shia conflict that fractured the Arab Nation, destroyed the Baathist movement, and doomed Palestine, as part of an elaborate U$/Zionist operation which included the October Surprise (HW Bush told Iran to hold the hostages until after the election in order to make Reagan beat Carter in 1980, thus sparking the rise of Neoliberalism and the Christian Zionist Evangelicals which culminated in the current Fascist MAGAtard regime), Iran-Contra (The U$ using illegal weapons sales to Iran through the Zionist State to fund the Anti-Communist Contras in Central America and spark the exaggerated “Crack epidemic” to throw millions of Blacks/New Afrikans in Prison, stop Communism in Central America, and destroy Baathist Iraq and save the Zionist State from a United Arab Nation by promoting Sunni-Shia conflict and Islamist Reactionary Retardation from both Iran and Saudi Arabia), and Project Hammer (the final destruction of the USSR by the bribed Revisionist clique of Gorbachev/Yeltsin in coordination with the CIA/Mossad, and the hidden cause of Bush’s 9/11 CIA/Mossad False Flag attacks to provide the Casus Belli for the Genocidal U$ Imperialist Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and probably Putin’s GRU/FSB False Flag Moscow Apartment Bombings to provide the Casus Belli for the Genocidal Russian Imperialist Invasion of Chechnya as well), 😂🤣🤢🤮! I also decided to repost my Map of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in the Middle East/West Asia, in order to generate some interesting Intellectual discussion, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2358607>he is an authentic lolberthe is litereally a zionist fake-alt honeypot related to feds and oil tycoons
>dirtbag leftsay what you will about those chapo millionaires they have been consistently based on foreign policy, basically always opposing Burger reich foreign policy, including during Ukraine, when guys like Hasan Piker folded to "putler bad tho"
>>2358636he is not against the existence of israel itself, just their extreme behavior and mooching off the US. hell in this video clip
>>2358484 which is from his allegedly more based era he says "look I don't like the palestinians either, they're all hyped up and psychotic"
>>2358647>he is not against the existence of israel itselfHe has called for the US to not involve itself with Israel (a proxy of the US mind you)
calling him a Zionist is just dishonest, the ADL literally has articles on him over his criticism
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/alex-jones-five-things-knowIn March 22, 2024, post on twitter, Jones spoke against Israel committing mass genocide
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1771145204503863576On May 13, 2025, Jones posted about Israel, alleging that Netanyahu and a globalist neocon deep state created Al-Qaeda/ISIS and orchestrated 9/11
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1922412071221621183On June 17, 2025, Jones discussed whether Benjamin Netanyahu could be the Antichrist, tying Israel to global conflict.
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1935070068578103579COUNTLESS more examples, these are just the recent ones, he's done criticism of Israel before you were born. Of course nothing will come out of it, but his own sentiment of the US not getting involved is enough to have Israel destroyed if its ever to come true. Israel relies on US involvement, his calls "against globalism" are in essence for US isolationism, non-interventionism, the zionist state cannot exist without US support. There is only one conclusion to that and its not "Alex is literally a Zionist", if anything he's more Anti-Zionist than succdems calling for a "two state solution".
>>2358702Here is his position on the israel-Palestine war clear:
https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-exclusive-alex-jones-responds-to-critics-reveals-his-position-on-the-israel-hamas-conflict-trumps-plan-to-rebuild-gazaTL;DR He's more concerned with US domestic issues than anything else, he doesn't want the US to involve itself in anything else.
>>2358702>if you think israel has the right to exist, you're zionist, period.Then he doesn't think that because he wants the US to pull out, without the US israel cannot exist and will be destroyed.
israel RELIES on the US, it is a PROXY of the US, when AJ says he doesn't want the US to involve itself he's leaving it to get destroyed and die like its supposed to.
> nice job ignoring what he said about palestinians too He's a self-described "American patriot", what he said on the video was THE DAY AFTER 9/11 after fox news released a video of them cheering on the inside job attacks, what do you expect him to say when he's got the consciousness of a nationalist?
>and his glowed up connectionsI don't deny that and yet I don't see how it invalidates his unique line of thought, he could be a literal CIA agent for all I care and yet still has more to say and is way more opinionated than any breadtuber will ever be. Tucker Carlson admires him even. If I want even SEMI-Informational entertainment then AJ is perfect, does that mean I take everything he says and does for granted? NO. He's still a retarded christian lolbert, but at the very least he's entertaining, that's what all you sectarians cannot grasp and refuse to admit because he doesn't align with your fucking LARPing 100%.
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