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>>2357589
>US to Withdraw from NATO Under Republican Bill
WE'RE BACK INTO A JDPON DON PHASE

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My official prediction for the NYC Mayoral election, total guardian angel victory

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You gotta be fucking kidding me. It’s genuinely this easy to destroy the United States and china literally beat these mfs without lifting a fucking finger…

Anybody got any anecdotes on the public opinion being against Israel and even in the antisemitic sense Jews in general? it's a new phenomenon at least for 21st century America. The Nazis are acting as if it's all because of them. Which in part of the normie racism i suppose it is. Normies don't about the Palestinians or Muslims in general. From what I've heard and read it's mostly "Why is our government sending all this money to Israel" or "Israel shouldn't have influence in the government". Whereas obviously for leftists being pro Palestine is just simple anti-imperialism/anti-war reasoning for being against Israel. Am I missing anything? Anyway, where is this gonna go? What's everyone's thoughts on the situation?

>>2357602
Literally a bunch of white people who feel unsafe because they have to interact with people of color as human beings. It's insane.

>>2357602
These people are behaving exactly the way that evangelical christians do as far as the persecution complex goes.

>>2357602
>The Real Tragedy Is That Ruby Bridges Makes White Children Feel Unsafe

>>2357602
This is the guy who Mamdani makes feel unsafe btw

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/us-used-up-15-20-percent-global-thaad-arsenal-11-days

U.S. Used Up 15-20 Percent of its Global THAAD Anti-Missile Arsenal in Just 11 Days of Mid-Intensity Combat: Cost Over $800 Million

>The U.S. Army has been estimated to have consumed 15-20 of all munitions for its globally deployed arsenal of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) long range anti-missile systems, after deployment to support Israeli air defences during the country’s 11 days of hostilities with Iran. A highly specialised asset designed to intercept medium and intermediate range ballistic missiles, the U.S. Army fields seven systems across five air defence regiments, and is set to operationalise an eighth by the end of the year. The systems are depended on to counter the arsenals of five potential adversaries including North Korea, China, Russia and Belarus, as well as Iran. Video footage has shown the launch of 39 interceptors to intercept Iranian missiles from June 13-24, although only a small portion of launches were captured on film partly due to the strict wartime censorship that was put in place in Israel. Presuming at a conservative estimate that the filmed launches from THAAD batteries accounted for 50-66 percent of total launches, total expenditure of interceptors amounted to approximately 60-80 interceptors during the 11 day conflict.


>The expenditure of 60-80 interceptors is significant when considering a combination of three factors: their cost, the small numbers available, and the relatively low intensity of Iranian missile strikes. With each THAAD interceptor launch costing an estimated $12-15 million, air defence operations using the system deployed in Israel cost an estimated $810 million to $1.215 billion. The expenditure of this many interceptors represents 15-20 percent of the entire U.S. Army’s arsenal, which has significant implications far beyond the Middle East, and particularly in the Pacific. The intensity of Iranian-Israeli hostilities was relatively low, with Iran having fired ballistic missiles at a modest rate well below its actual capabilities in order to maintain a proportional response to Israeli attacks, avoid escalation, and retain a capacity to respond should the United States escalate by fully entering the war. A further factor in the low intensity of operations is that the THAAD system in Israel had more support from other anti-ballistic missile systems than it would in almost any other location, with Israel’s Arrow and Barak 8 systems also optimised for intercepting such high altitude missiles, while nearby AEGIS destroyers provided support with their SM-3 anti-ballistic missiles.


>Had Iran launched more intensive missile attacks, including using more missile with multiple warheads, or had it sustained bombardment beyond the 11 day conflict, the THAAD system in Israel would have seen its ability to contribute to air defence operations rapidly diminish. The system’s limitations have very significant implications for its viability both in the Middle East, and globally where it is relied on to counter arsenals that are significantly larger and more capable than that of Iran. The first foreign deployment of the THAAD system was made in June 2009 to protect Hawaii from North Korean intermediate range ballistic missiles, with a second system deployed on Guam in 2013, followed by a third in South Korea from 2016. THAAD batteries and radars have also been tested on Wake Island, which has gained growing importance in American plans for a potential war with North Korea and China, and is expected to be protected by the systems in wartime. Russia’s recent introduction of the Oreshnik intermediate range ballistic missile, its sharing of the missiles with Belarus, and its procurement of North Korean Pukkuksong-2 medium range ballistic missiles, are expected to also lead to calls to also deploy THAAD systems in Europe. Thus the rate at which the arsenal of THAAD interceptors was depleted in Israel’s defence despite highly favourable conditions bodes ill for the systems’ viability in future medium and high intensity conflicts, as well as the affordability of its operations.


HARDEN YOUR HEART O AYATOLLAH! INCREASE YOUR ATTACKS

>>2357609
In my small, conservative, and southeast town; that's the general sentiment as well - for most people, it's not a passionate sentiment either. Maybe there's a chance it festers into becoming that, but I have my doubts. I honestly see that general displeasure going nowhere. I think I'm just so blackpilled on American politics that I don't think I'll live to see the day where the US stops supporting Israel. If it happens, I'll be wrong and ecstatic.

>>2357602
I remember when these people were taking the piss out of college safe spaces and the concept of getting "triggered". Now its "oh no this brown person got elected and people feel free to openly criticize Israel, I'm literally shaking."

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>>2357609
I found that years ago when arguing with chvds in some online games i played that they opposed USAID for all the wrong reasons and that finally began to manifest with real political consequences recently. They don't want "undeserving shitskins" to get "free gibs" not realizing how soft power works. MAGA is US supremacist but the people who's entire politics are anti west will sometimes seem like them because they want the same things for different reasons. 99.999999999999% of multipolarity fights on leftypol are pic related.

>>2357625
I want to be in the top right quadrant but Cucktin won't let me.

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>>2357602
>The point is that 400k of my neighbors don't care that he makes Jews feel unsafe. That's the real tragedy here.
This is so friggin' WEAK. Do other Zionists feel any embarrassment reading things like this? I'm sure some of them do. Like where the hell is your dignity, Andres? Can I call you Andres? I know he's not reading this but I'm being rhetorical for a moment.

Because, listen, Andres. You want people to like you, right? I only say this because I'm a fag and we've had a lot of haters who wanted to throw us in AIDS camps and we were also victims of the Holocaust, so I think we can relate.

How do you go about achieving this strategic goal of getting people to like you? Do you launch a city-wide "Don't Dislike Andres!" campaign? Like with billboards, petitions, full-page ads, a couple of lobbying organizations and occasional sky-writing? Do you have another monotonous protest yammering "Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, anti-Andres have got to go!?" Or do you live your life a bit differently, concentrating your time and effort on being the best "yourself" that you can be? Which involves living, learning, treating others well, and if a few people nevertheless persist in being haters you say "fuck you" and move on?

Clearly, any sane person would choose the latter, because the former is not only laughably ludicrous but incredibly demeaning and unforgivably ineffective. But for some reason, there are a bunch of Jews who not only persist in doing that, they prefer to wallow in a fundamentally IGNORANT relationship to their own rich and enlightening Jewish culture. I bet they don't even try to learn Hebrew… they're not even good Zionists! You think anyone finds this attractive? Your people have been subject to enslavement, expulsions, crusades, pogroms, inquisitions, and the entire WORLD watched six million of your people get butchered and you think you can REASON with antisemitism? You think you can sit there and beg to be liked???

By the way, I'm also pretty sure the other Zionists in Israel – the real meatheaded ones – don't give a fuck what I think. When they bombed Iran, did they ask the world's approval? If the world disapproved, would they have not done it? For those in the world who do like Israel, did Israel ever gain that liking and respect by begging? No they didn't??? And you call yourself a Zionist.

>>2357641
I want palestine to be free of zionist occupation, I want israel destroyed settlers scattered, and israel's leadership tried for war crimes, I want Ukraine free of its CIA-backed leadership and to be soviet again, and I want Russia to be soviet again too. this last part (Russia) makes me an ultra CIA agent glowie mossad agent according to some on here because umm actually wanting Russia to be soviet again means I want gunther fehlinger style regime change against based cucktin

>>2357643
>This is so friggin' WEAK. Do other Zionists feel any embarrassment reading things like this? I'm sure some of them do. Like where the hell is your dignity, Andres? Can I call you Andres? I know he's not reading this but I'm being rhetorical for a moment.
zionazis have two moods:
<it's so over, me being attacked on twitter is literally a second holocaust
and
<hahaha the palestinian child died screaming, this is literally victory over hitler

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>1940s
<We can take America, USSR, and England at the same time. It will be easy!
>2020s
<We can take Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It will be easy!

>>2357597
probably not happening:

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-us-withdraw-senator-mike-lee-republican-effort-2090914

>Republican Senator Mike Lee has introduced a bill to withdraw the U.S. from NATO, which comes after a two-day alliance summit in The Hague.


>In reference to the alliance's acronym, the Utah lawmaker introduced the Not A Trusted Organization (NATO) Act to take the U.S. out from the bloc, which he said had "run its course" as he accused its European members of "making American taxpayers pick up the check for decades."


>The act would direct President Donald Trump to provide notice of denunciation of U.S. membership in NATO, consistent with Article 13 of the alliance treaty, Lee said.


>However, the bill faces uncertain prospects given prior bipartisan moves to prevent U.S. withdrawal from NATO. Also at the alliance's meeting on Wednesday, Trump welcomed increased defense spending among members.


We've already seen Trump and even Tulsi side with "The Swamp" on the Iran/Israel issue. Why would they deviate from "The Swamp" on NATO?

>>2357602
No, Obama won't enact a single anti-White measure. I don't even know what those would be. But that's not the point. The point is that 70M of my countrymen don't care that he makes Whites feel unsafe. That's the real tragedy here.

>>2357714
>No, Obama won't enact a single anti-White measure.
works better with Malema

>>2357712
The US withdrawal from NATO will be the signal that it will invade Mexico.

>>2357725
i'll believe it when it happens

>>2357610
>white people
according to whom?

>>2357725
why would you leave before invading? other way around makes more sense

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>>2357729
>european jews aren't freaking white reeeeeeeeeeee
whiteness is made up anyway

>>2357731
they're not european, their ancestors (at some point) immigrated to europe from etiopia, levant and/or volga basin

>>2357630
>>2357609
this, vibes amongst the us are anyone under 30 either supporting palestine or has stopped supporting isreal out of apathy, and anyone over 50 has plugged their ears and stopped listening to save themselves from having to think about it or is pretending it's all fake. i havent touched bases with leftypol's opinion on the NY situation and Bernie-Sanders-But-He-Knows-What-Tiktok-Is recently but i dont think there's a more appropriate anecdote for the shift in perspective; it's not necessarily that the corbyn-ing isn't working, it's just that people don't seem to view it as a relevant issue anymore.

i think if if public opinion had truly flipped in support of palestine, the media circus wouldn't even try to run the story, but they're still trying because the general response is that those "criticisms" are still "valid" but they aren't the show stopper they once were

>>2357647
That's because America has real power over them and. America is their source of money and weapons. If that is taken away then Israel fails. They can see the winds are shifting and are afraid.
On the other hand Palestinians are weak with no real ability or will to attack. 1700 Israelis have died compared to 50000 to 100000 Palestinians in the past 2 years. They know they can completely genocide them given enough time.

>>2357747
Ashkenazi jews got BLEACHED for two thousand years in Central/Eastern Europe. They are now whiter than "white" Italians, Spanish and Greeks who have had much closer ties with Africa and Middle East over the last few centuries.

>>2357731
also i'm pretty sure demographics of 1750s colonies make the term 'white race' completely irrelevant in terms of class solidarity

>>2357753
no they didn't, that's a hoax. before the last war people used to stick to their own. breaking class, ethnic, religious and racial borders' a big taboo.

>>2357692
But the US isn't going to be alone or close to alone. It would be team West vs. team East.

So
>Anglosphere+Europe+The honorary Asians in Europe+the cool ragheads and Israel
Vs.
<China+Russia+Iran+NK

The US team is much bigger power wise. They can probably get India on the team and they'd be much bigger in absolute numbers as well.

But it won't happen because the world already solved the world war problem with MAD nuclear strategy.

>>2357757
>The honorary Asians in Europe
The honorary Aryans in Asia*

>>2357757
>>2357758
So far their is like zero evidence that China and Russia could get like anyone else to fight for them, whereas there is all the evidence in the world team USA can get a lot of countries I didn't even mention to fight for them.

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>>2357755
I guess DNA evidence is a big hoax to you? We know Ashkenazi Jews have large amounts of European DNA through modern studies.
But even if we didn't have that as evidence Jewish people literally have matrilineal decent because of how often their women just got raped by conquerors.
After all taboos don't matter to men when you don't need to take care of the resulting kid and the baby mamma has to go back to the ghetto.

>>2357757
And even in a world of complete hypotheticals, where no one has nukes and can just dump their arsenal on their enemy's country until it no longer exists forever, they're going to unleash the fucking Super AIDS that makes any disease before seem like a joke. Not just on people but also on every food source. The cyber warfare will probably shut down every network in every country. Would probably need to make a whole new internet that's much more closed off. But even if you separated every countries network, most of these countries have saboteurs up the ass already. Of course the US and Europe do.

>>2357762
yeah it is - all it means is that someone is trying to claim to be someone else. i've seen jews post 'dna evidence' claiming they are native cannanites, eastern europeans or southern italians but not the other. when politics and science collide politics always takes precedence because it's what funds science.

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>>2357769
But IRL, the US will go for the first strike. I also think it is the best move actually. There is no point waiting for your enemy to strike first with the nuclear mass strike. How the fuck are you going to fight your enemy without nukes until they're losing, then they're going to do the first strike anyways? Or you lose and then you use the mass nukes. That's why it is better to just try and strike first.

But obviously the consequence of a nuclear war will always leave you worse off than if you didn't so that's why there will never be a hot war between the East and West.

>>2357597
We never left

>>2357597
insane news cuz trump actually can't pull out of NATO by himself he needs a 2/3 vote from congress so they might be serious about it

>>2357810
>he needs a 2/3 vote from congress
Congressional approval has already been sidelined a long time ago

These mfs can't decide if they're interventionists or not. Will bomb Iran with no provocation, but they want to leave a defensive alliance. Weird.

>>2357827
there's nothing defensive about NATO

>>2357827
They also can’t decide if they want to bring manufacturing or not, among many other things.


>>2357827
To me this situation where democrats are anti-russia and republicans are anti-china (and fanatical zionists) seems artificial. Deep state glowuyghurs win in all elections no matter the results.

apparently some rich american communist named James "Fergie" Chambers is one of the figures behind Palestine Action that damaged those war planes a week ago. anyone got the scoop on this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergie_Chambers

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>>2357597
Will introduce an anti amerikkkan sentiment the likes we've never seen before in Europe if this actually passes. No joke. I think this would kill a lot of right-wing and lib euro parties as well. The more fractured the empire is the better in my eyes

>>2357774
It's true DNA ancestry can be manipulated. In fact most Jews try to show they are mostly Middle Eastern and are "native" to Palestine as you said.
But do you know what can't be manipulated? Their fucking looks. Show me a random group of Sephardi, Mizrahi, Ethiopian and Ashkenazi Jews and I can pick out the white Ashkenazi 100 out of 100 times simply by their pale skin color and Euro facial features.
You can pretend no one ever interacted with them all you want but their looks alone prove you wrong. We can throw out all historical evidence of them living in Europe and still see they are white.

Also Spanish, Italians, and Greeks look darker than the rest of Europe. Again you can pretend cultural segregation kept them separate from the rest of the Mediterranean but their looks prove the opposite.

Reddit waking up

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Just lol

>>2357836
Critical support for anti-imperialist EU.

>>2357597
>US to Withdraw from NATO Under Republican Bill
Delusional. NATO exists to create a market for the Americant MIC, all US parties are completely integrated into the MIC. .

>>2357597
It's getting tiring. One day it's "REGIME CHANGE IRAN NOW", the other it's "LEAVE NATO NOW". I'm starting to think that this is spectacle bullshit.

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>>2357602
>obvious political astroturf to attack the Democrat candidate and paint him as a radical
<retards here actually think the bourgeoisie and landlords are a monolith that all equally fears Mamdani rather than seeing the politics at play, the fear is the astroturf in order to sway public opinion towards the opposition
The opposition is playing hard ball because the election is not done yet. They will hurl everything they can at Mamdani because they want to win the mayoral race. On the flipside the democrats can use this pressure to make thier little radical walk back statements and have him kiss the ring in order to secure funding and support to beat back the opposition's message. What follows is the promise of change being projected but the continuation of bourgeois governance behinds the scenes and to be revealed at a later date. If Mamdani wins, he will be under the thumb of the democrats, if he loses, both parties will claim the uselessness of running a "radical" or "socialist" candidate. Either way the bourgeoisie keep thier holdings. This is not some unified effort of the bourgeoisie but various sectors of it all following class interests which manifest in different ways but lead to the same preferred outcome. It is not that the bourgeoisie is all afraid or all incompetent or all knowing, a secret cabal that acts in perfect harmony, it is that they all pursue a continuation of thier rule. Pandering to the workers when all power is in the hands of bourgeois parties will only lead to the candidate bowing down to the powers that be, not the workers. The DSA does not put politics in command because it is not a party let alone a communist party so candidates they push always will bow to the democrats.

>>2357859
Cope lol

>>2357859
That’s because it’s not possible to be outside the two party system, you can’t organize in unions because Taft Hartley makes any EFFECTIVE union action illegal, you can’t go to guerrilla war because the state is too strong and there’s no constituency for a protracted insurgency as Americans do not live off the land. You can’t rob a dollar general to feed your soldiers without pissing off everyone that lives in a food desert.

>>2357864
Shut the fuck about outdate nonsense laws. Communists are all cowards.

>>2357864
Oh and if you wanted to do a military coup that’s also impossible because the military system filters out anyone either charismatic or ambitious

>>2357866
Or maybe the ground isn’t fertile here

>>2357866
How are you going to feed an army for a protracted people’s war when the only food source are in Walmarts and dollar stores?

I really don't want to lead shit. What or who can I be? The next Mamdani, the next Hasan? I'm a mixed mofo with real ties to White America but what does it matter. I swear to god nothing I've seen has made me interested in being anything with the masses. I swear to god, I'm even ready to dedicate the rest of the hours of my life to be a public figure for the cause but for what? Even if I dedicated every waking minute, you backstabbers would turn on me in no time. You are all evil and I want no part of you as you currently exist.

>>2357872
Just ignore the haters, ultras and internet people DO NOT MATTER, it’s mostly bots and noise and arguing for the sake of arguing

>>2357872
I mean you all suck ass, and I'm not prepared to fight you to not suck ass. You keep sucking ass, I'm going to live my life until I expire while you do your thing uninterrupted by myself.

>>2357873
I really don't know. Because I am not a normie, but I believe I am disciplined enough to not engage in any untowards activity or conversation for as long as I live. I don't fucking care. I don't even enjoy life on this Earth. I only feel like maybe I can do some service to humanity before I expire.

>>2357844
This but unironically. The fact that Pissrael wouldn't get its dick sucked anymore because it is an Amerikkkan puppet state would do wonders

>>2357875
Use that energy for something constructive, it doesn’t have to be political but if that’s where your head is at go for it, I promise you’ll feel a little bit better if you do

>>2357863
Oh anon, obviously I forgot to account to the steeled credibility of such trustworthy nonbiased institutions and voices such as the NY Post and real estate brokers!

>>2357878
Those are the genuine voices of the ruling class, they are panicking and that panic is real

>>2357877
I feel fine. I really have no personal attachment to this bullshit you are all involved in. I know I will die and be free to travel to better realms. The only question is if I could've helped you retards. Maybe I will decide to come back and help you tards in my next life as well. You are all very fucking retarded.

I know there is no way I came from the same retardation as the rest of you, for my whole life. I never felt at home with you retards. You are all terminally dumb. God blessed with you certain individuals to turn the tides of retardation but it's a long process. Oops.

>>2357880
If that were true you wouldn’t be posting

>>2357888
Why not? I am here, I only exist to elevate your retarded consciousness. Why would I not post?

>>2357872
>you backstabbers would turn on me in no time
Do you have a concrete reason for believing in this eventual backstab or are you just being paranoid?

>>2357886
What specific retardation are you talking about? You made several posts referring to something yet you are being vague about it…

>>2357892
>Do you have a concrete reason for believing in this eventual backstab or are you just being paranoid?
This is the entire story of our lord Christ. Everyone, including his disciples will turn on him. I know from personal experience why all will turn on Christ. It is because the truth of God's reality will cause all of those that hold power to turn on him. Christ's message is we are all one with God/ the holy spirit. All hierarchies will be abolished, now you can understand while this will disturb them.

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The critique: it should be easier for me and my upper middle class underlings to accumulate wealth

Mamdani wife being a art hoe liberal who dresses however she wants and is as brooklynite as it gets decimates their sharia law shtick.

She seems to be getting popular the past few days fast too which is awesome. She seems like a cool person

>>2357892
>>2357893
I swear to god if you all would endorse my sustenance, I could become the guru for yo all. But you really want the Hasan or Asmongold or whatever stupid shit. I don't know, I don't know the way to make you all in the masses not pieces of shit. v

Love how when push comes to shove the liberals at /USApol/ will throw themselves at the feet of the first Strasserite who promises to expand the treat redistribution among the volk. But you also want us to believe that America can be communist. Sad!

>>2357900
>liberals at /USApol/ will throw themselves at the feet of the first Strasserite who promises to expand the treat redistribution among the volk.
I would endorse that.

>>2357900
Im just lapping up zionist and cuomo tears, i have no delusions that mamdani will deliver his agenda or that working class new yorkers would benefit

I swear I could lead a movement to overtake the whole US political system in no time if you weren't all such retards.

>>2357900
>Strasserite

Kill yourself

>>2357905
And god bless the guy who would do it instead of me. To do something for all you tards is to do nothing for yourself.

>>2357903
>yeah I’m an imperialist treat addict but I’m in it for le SPECTACLE!!! Am I cool yet???

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>>2357906
>>Strasserite
You're right, the correct term is Lasallean.


>>2357910
Public busses aren’t treats nor do they require imperialism

I swear to god you retards have no clue about how you live on the good graces of the "Star Children" who want nothing from you tards. You are all criminally retarded and all sorts of advanced beings have incarnated here to save you from your retardation to no effect.

>>2357905
Do the coup, DO IT

>>2357916
Hey buddy I’ve done Salvia too

>>2357915
so their best proposal is something you can find in europe or even latin america?

>>2357918
Good for you my homie. Then you know the truth. Some of these people are natives and some of us aren't. I will go where I go and they will be like they are. Maybe I will be enticed to spend more of my lives with them. Who knows. I am not truly effected by their retardation. I will live on eternally.

>>2357893
>>2357898
Bro, you are not Christ. Don't pretend to be some rejected religious savior who was martyred by the stupid masses when you haven't even had a leadership role. If everyone is rejecting you then it's probably for a reason. If everything around you smells like shit then look at your own shoe…
Seriously take a break and get some sleep. It sounds like you are having a manic episode or something.

>>2357921
That's what they can't appreciate is that so many consciousnesses are incarnating here to help their retarded world.

>>2357915
The materials needed to assemble and manufacture them are only possible due to an extensive web of neocolonial exploitation, to say nothing of fueling and staffing. I’m glad you think some urbanoid radlibs commuting to their favorite pretentious bodega shop for free on piss scented buses is worth the untold millions enslaved and exploited (many of whom have never seen a bus in their lives) to make it possible, but don’t sully the name of socialism by associating it with your fascist power fantasies

>>2357922
> If everyone is rejecting you then it's probably for a reason.
I never said that. It is the opposite. People turn to me and ask me to determine their whole life for them.

Let me put it way more simply. The solution to your world is simple. God is fucking real. That is what I feel like my whole existence exists for. God is real. Stop sinning. When you infract on others you do so on yourself. It is that simple. Stop being evil and respect God and his existence.

>>2357915
the greatest antithesis of bourgeois society - free bus tickets

>>2357924
>neocolonial exploitation
nah you fell off bro

>>2357924
Latin America has public bus systems without imperialism, La Paz has ski lifts that go up and down the city and Evo didn’t kill anyone to get them

>>2357928
You must respect every manifestation of god, IE humans/people as yourself. That is all there is to it.

>>2357925
>>2357928
What you are saying is you lead a little drug cult but since leftists wants some materialist arguments you feel rejected. This has caused you to throw a little fit and accuse us of being stupid for not obeying your will mindlessly.
Get off the drugs, man.

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I am absolutely SICK of Jewish peoples victim complex. I have found myself not caring much about anti-semitism anymore since I have realized at least 90% of claims of anti-semitism are completely fake if not more.

Jewish people now live safer than ever in the west and have their own ethnostate. They are very privileged people. They have all kinds of connections to succeed from organizations, influence globally and bought out politicians.

Yet they still play the victim like their lives are insanely hard and are so persecuted. I find it hard to sympathize with Jewish people these days. I don't even trust them to not be a genocidal Zionist before I interact with them. I need to make sure they are not one before try to be friends with one and the ones who are not are very rare. They have a Jewish supremacy complex typically these days.

Anyone else moved from being okay with Jews to just having difficulty feeling empathy for them over the last 2 years?

>>2357934
>Drug cult
It's real. You ignorance can't take away my lived experience. My power has been confirmed by many experiences. Anyways I'm not arguing with you. Go be the faggot you are. How do me and you intersect? Why are you so concerned with what I say?

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Why does the USA have an October 7th task force

>>2357937
>I'm a dumb faggot, I press buttons on my caculator that say :80085 so therefore you are defeated!

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>>2357924
>99% of americans have a refigerator. that makes them slave owners. We're all in this together! Please don't fight your imperialist govt. She loves you! You wouldn't want to lose your fridge slaves would you? The fridge slaves are thristy for revenge, and only your imperialist govt (who loves you btw) is protecting you from them.

>>2357938
the US government is serial killer patrick bateman telling you to cool it with the antisemitic remarks

>>2357940
<he dosent press buttons on my caculator that say :80085
Cringe retard.

>>2357911
>Mamdani is literally hitler because ….
Zionazi media also says this

>>2357937
>It's real.
Never said it wasn't real. I was just saying there is a limit to small religious orgs and who they can convince. To make it bigger you need real arguments not just some interpersonal charm or drugs.
>My power has been confirmed by many experiences.
Some people are easy to lead and want to take orders. Doesn't mean you are magic.
>Anyways I'm not arguing with you.
I know. I was wondering what you contention was and you can't say specifically and leave it vague. Turns out you just upset we don't flatter your god complex.
>How do me and you intersect?
Through this site obviously.

>>2357952
>Never said it wasn't real. I was just saying there is a limit to small religious orgs and who they can convince. To make it bigger you need real arguments not just some interpersonal charm or drugs.
Ok. My argument is god is real, your soul is real. You should abandon your civilized life as our lord Christ said.
>Some people are easy to lead and want to take orders. Doesn't mean you are magic.
I am a skeptic. I have been informed by many non-verbal experiences with humans and not humans. I can certainly direct them purely by thought.
<I know. I was wondering what you contention was and you can't say specifically and leave it vague. Turns out you just upset we don't flatter your god complex.
Believe whatever you want. If I could prove it to you, would you help me achieve my objectives? (I don't really know if I have any objective, I'd rather just quit this shit and leave you all to your own devices)

>>2357827
NATO is an expansionist alliance whose purpose was to encircle the USSR, and once the USSR was done with its new goal is to encircle Russia and once Russia is balkanized its new goal will be to encircle China, and…. so on…. there's literally nothing "defensive" about it.

>>2357958
I mean this has been talked about for millennia and millennia. If you could sacrifice self-service in an intellectual way on am mass scale, history, communism, capitalism, it would all be over. You are all retarded and that's why you all continue to died retardedly.

>>2357747
humans have been migrating since they left africa (including the people who are now considered european). whiteness is made up. franklin called germans too swarthy to be white. almost like the whole concept is retarded.

>>2357963
Le rusha says le out of afrika theory is le wrong. But you are right, people be moving, like crakkker settlers who had to keep going west because, uhh, they just had to okay?

>le blacks are the real settler colonialists since the dawn of time

>>2357964
>Le rusha
is this what you're referring to?
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuSHA
Gee I wonder what their interest would be in denying Out of Africa?

Faggot ass Soviet worship shit. Fuck Soviets. I never want to hear about that failed state that died before I stepped foot on this Earth ever again.

>>2357967
Gee, i wonder too

>>2357968
>failed state

>>2357971
Where are they now? Why don't their remnants reform? To call them a failed state and thus even a state is to give them too much credit.

Soviets are absolutely nothing int the year of our lord 2025. To even speak of them brings shame.

>>2357931
>muh Evo
even chile and argentina have public transportation

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>>2357966
that's not what Out of Africa means at all. Out of Africa refers to the Early expansions of hominins out of Africa between 2 million and 200,000 years ago. Humans migrating on foot during the 200,000 years of hunter gatherer life were not doing "settler colonialism." Settler-colonialism only happens once there are settled indigenous populations all over the place that then get settled and colonized by others. For settler colonialism to happen you need fixed agricultural settlements and cultures developed by common ancestry and bonds. You then need these fixed settlements to develop in a highly asymmetrical way due to the uneven distribution of natural resources and uneven development of technology. You then need these fixed settlements to develop a material incentive to leave their communities and try to colonize others, usually internal division (like puritans leaving for America due to religious persecution in England) or increased demand (for natural resources due to industrialization, soil depletion, etc.) TL;DR Out of Africa as a theory of human migration patterns does not assert that "black people are the real settler colonists." That is patently absurd.

zohran status?

>>2357978
Presumptive mayor of NYC come November.

>>2357978
Hopefully a good sign of pro socialist sentiment

>>2357958
>My argument is god is real, your soul is real. You should abandon your civilized life as our lord Christ said.
So what happens after I believe it? What specific actions are supposed to come after?

>>2357961
> If you could sacrifice self-service in an intellectual way on am mass scale
So what specifically does this mean? Honestly it sound's like comrade Jim Jones method of reaching communism through "revolutionary suicide"

>>2357977
According to this definition Foundational Black Americans are settler colonists. They displaced the American "indigenous" populations.

>>2357983
>So what happens after I believe it? What specific actions are supposed to come after?
A good question. My point I was getting at is I don't know myself. My goal would to be create peers and not followers. I don't want that responsibility.
>>2357983
>So what specifically does this mean? Honestly it sound's like comrade Jim Jones method of reaching communism through "revolutionary suicide"
It means as I already laid out, as I feel myself, I have no need for self-service, I have no need for insult by people. You are all retards. To be recognized by retards is frankly an insult.

>>2357983
>According to this definition Foundational Black Americans are settler colonists.
I don't think being bought/sold as slaves for the actual settler-colonists counts as settler colonialism.
>FBA
Isn't this a national-chauvinist grift to pit US African-Americans against black immigrants? Wouldn't FBAs rather join forces with Haitians, Jamaicans, etc. who have also been oppressed in a similar way against the US white supremacist state? FBA always struck me as a psy-op.

No one want to engage me at the verbal/intellectual level, but truth is, you don't want to engage me at the physical level either. I don't want followers, but perhaps I should lead. We could take it all in days.

>>2357999
Sir, this is an anonymous imageboard called /leftypol/. I think you are lost.

>>2357987
Isn't the whole 'FBA' thing an attempt by those who are the descendants of slaves to be accepted by the settler in-group as one of them?

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>>2358002
I am what I yam. You are all the pathetic lost individuals that you are.

>>2358009
I mean I don't put myself out there because I will really kill you if you fuck with me. I will really come to where you sleep and kill you.

>>2358003
yeah basically


>>2358016
I'm not going to kill any random person, I said if you fuck with me, you better believe it's over. Go ahead and doxx me. I'm going to find where you live and explode your brain matter.

>>2358017
>Go ahead and doxx me.
?????????

>>2358019
I said I will kill you if you fuck with me in anyway. That's a promise.

>>2358021
you're talking to multiple people. i'm just confused because that's the first time anyone mentioned doxxing in the conversation. seemed out of nowhere

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America, where the only guaranteed "birthright" is Aliyah to Israel
https://archive.is/52l5W

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>>2358021
File a lawsuit, file an injunction. I'm going to pop up unrecorded and put slugs in your body.

>>2358022
Not out of nowhere, it is the foremost form of internet fuckery. I will kill you I promise if you fuck with me.

>>2358025
i don't fuck with anyone, have a nice day, and remember, i'm not the same person you've been arguing with

>>2357987
>I don't think being bought/sold as slaves for the actual settler-colonists counts as settler colonialism.
Might not seem fair but they are still part of the colonial forces invading.
But lets just say for arguments sake Chattel slaves don't count. Does legal slaves who were convicted criminals count? Do indentured servants count? Immigrant labor? Do non-landowning workers count? What is the line of responsibility exactly?
>grift to pit US African-Americans against black immigrants?
It's not really a grift if they are different culturally groups of people.
>Wouldn't FBAs rather join forces with Haitians, Jamaicans, etc. who have also been oppressed in a similar way against the US white supremacist state?
They should work together but American Blacks are not Haitian, Nigerian, Somalian etc.They are immigrant labor, speak different languages and have different cultures from Americans.

>>2358019
Read the thread. He's a paranoid schizo who's taken too many drugs and thinks he has magic powers. Sad!

>>2358027
I'm not arguing with anyone, good day sir.

>>2358028
>Read the thread. He's a paranoid schizo who's taken too many drugs and thinks he has magic powers. Sad!
Do what you will glowing faggot.

What argument? I said I will kill you. That's not an argument, that's a promise.

>>2358032
im going to penetrate your asshole with a 12 inch nails, thats a promise

>>2358035
You fucking faggot, you know what time it is.

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Zohran will make anime real

>>2358028
>Might not seem fair but they are still part of the colonial forces invading.
who is that framing useful for?
>But lets just say for arguments sake Chattel slaves don't count. Does legal slaves who were convicted criminals count? Do indentured servants count? Immigrant labor? Do non-landowning workers count? What is the line of responsibility exactly?
deliberately committing genocide against an indigenous population and invoking ideas like terra nullius to do so.
>They should work together but American Blacks are not Haitian, Nigerian, Somalian etc.They are immigrant labor, speak different languages and have different cultures from Americans.
That's true but there's levels and distinctions to be made. I think the material interests are more common in some cases. Black Americans and White Americans share the same language and to an extent the same culture, but black Americans are (mostly) descendants of chattel slaves and white Americans are (mostly) descendants of settler-colonists. Meanwhile Haitians and Jamaicans for example, have different language/culture than black US Americans but are still part of the new world diaspora that was brought over as chattel slaves. Haitian immigrants to the US are largely a byproduct of the US fucking with Haiti through coups, and other forms of economic rape, like forcing them on threat of invasion to pay the French reparations for 150 years after their revolution, and then occupying them for over a decade in the early 1900s and building forced labor camps and assassinating their political resistance leaders, etc. So Haiti has been destroyed by the US army multiple times and people fleeing that country from the US are fleeing the consequences of US imperialism and going to where the standard of living is higher. It seems odd to and politically convenient for supremacists and imperialists to pit black US Americans against them through shit like "FBA" rhetoric. FBA strikes me as a psy op pushed by opportunists and grifters.

>>2358036
I mean, c'mon, why would we ever engage each other physically? Why are you a glowing rape fiend? What is your glowing rape friend related to the general public? Why wouldn't the turn your in to get your skin flayed?

You know what time it is?

>>2358041
9:37 PM, sir

>>2358042
Wrong, it is time to get your skin flayed.


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AI truly is the aesthetic of modern fascism, example twenty billion

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>>2358041
RAPE TIME!!!!

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>>2358043
uhhhhhhhhhhh
let me be clear
if you like your skin
you can keep it

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>>2358052
Another boring day at work.

>>2358052
We not just killing you, we doing funkytown things to you. Ever read the "A History of Violence" comic? We could do funkytown things for decades.

>>2357866
>taft hartley is politically irrelevant
is it?

>>2357935
>I am absolutely SICK of Jewish peoples victim complex.
>>2357602
>>2357610
>Literally a bunch of white people who feel unsafe because they have to interact with people of color as human beings.

LOL this is hilarious because working class Jews are unsafe, and the proletariat is hanging out 24/7 with their friends in the racially oppressed underclass that nazism criminalizes!

You won't see these PMC Jews tweet the most basic proletarian discourse of: "the cops beat my friends in the ghetto, these disgusting fucking pigs would have lynched Jesus, and they did!!! And they would lynch Jesus if he returned, or more likely deported his refugee ancestor Ruth and prevented him from existing".

NYC Zionists who "feel unsafe" because of Zohran are not the class of oppressed workers who the nazis forced into ghettos. in fact they are the very nazis doing ethnic cleansing with housing segregation and redlining:

https://www.google.com/search?q=white+flight+disinvestment+%22finance%22+%22capitalism%22
<Redlining and Disinvestment: Discriminatory housing policies, like redlining, denied access to homeownership for people of color, fueling the geographic concentration of poverty and further disinvestment.
<Profit from Segregation: Financial benefits accrued to real estate developers, agents, and investors who used strategies like "blockbusting" and racially restrictive subdivisions to profit from segregation.
>Bond Market and Exclusive Suburbs: White flight benefited homeowners through increased equity and also created a more lucrative bond market that could fund resources in the suburbs, further entrenching racial capitalism.

>>2358069
Yes. Because it would be easily disputed if ever prosecuted.

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>>2358072
The Taft-Hartley Act is enforced regularly, though its application depends on specific labor disputes. The NLRB enforces its provisions.

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Honkoid status: cooked
The empire's decline has officially crossed the rubicon.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/27/nx-s1-5435786/scotus-birthright-citizenship-universal-injunctions

>>2358073
TACO TACO TACO TACO UMMM ACTUALLY THIS IS BAD

>>2358075
When is the last instance?

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>>2358024
YOU LEAVE HIM ALONE

>>2358071
>because working class Jews are unsafe

No they are not. Jews look pretty much white to anyone unless wearing some type of religious clothing. Jews are not in danger

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>>2358076
Yeah, we're cooked. Blood and soil wins again

>>2358039
>who is that framing useful for?
No one? It just a conclusion reached if we take the idea of settler colonialism as defined.
>deliberately committing genocide against an indigenous population
So if it isn't deliberate then you are not part of the settler colonialists?
>invoking ideas like terra nullius to do so.
Slaves can also be convinced of this and repeat the idea.
>politically convenient for supremacists and imperialists to pit black US Americans against them through shit like "FBA" rhetoric.
They are just using the tools of identity politics and ethnic divisions already in existence and using them.
>FBA strikes me as a psy op pushed by opportunists and grifters.
It often is.

Settler colonialism is interesting as a topic but that time has largely passed. Being aware of ethnic identity and culture is fine but communists shouldn't lean on it to unite the working class. There can always be new ethnic and national divisions created and used by capitalists. FBA is just a newer example. We should be deemphasizing race to side set this not trying to make it more important.

>>2358079
The most recent I remember was in 2020, when the Trump administration invoked the T-H Act to issue an injunction against the ILWU in a labor dispute with the PMA. The ILWU had threatened to strike at West Coast ports, which the Trump admin argued could significantly disrupt muh economy. Though it's possible there could be more recent ones that I just don't know about personally.


>>2357785
eventually there will be an irrational leadership that ignores these incentives

>>2358073
>>2358084
I think the question was interpreted more like:
<should the AmeriKKKan Empire bomb Iran without KKKongress' approval?
I think there's no doubt, the average AmeriKKKaner labor aristoKKKrat absolutely agrees that bombing the Middle East is a good and necessary thing.

>>2358092
didn't biden use it on the railroad worker strike that one time?

>>2358092
when was the last time the "Taft-Hartley Act" was invoked
https://chatgpt.com/share/685eca5a-640c-8005-b84b-104f37a006f1
ChatGPT said:

The Taft-Hartley Act (officially the Labor Management Relations Act of 1947) grants the U.S. President authority to intervene in certain labor disputes that threaten national health or safety, particularly by seeking an 80-day cooling-off period via court injunction.
✅ Last Known Invocation:

The last time the Taft-Hartley Act was invoked was in 2002, by President George W. Bush.

Context: A labor dispute involving the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) and Pacific Maritime Association (PMA).

Industry: West Coast ports.

Reason: A 10-day lockout of dockworkers was seen as a major threat to the U.S. economy, especially in the wake of the 9/11 attacks and ongoing economic instability.

Action: President Bush invoked Taft-Hartley to reopen the ports and force an 80-day cooling-off period.

Notable Previous Uses:

1978 – President Jimmy Carter: Sought to use it against the coal miners’ strike (United Mine Workers), but the judge declined to issue the injunction.

1971 – President Richard Nixon: Invoked during a national dockworkers strike.

Let me know if you want a full list of every time it's been invoked or attempted.

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>>2358076
And the gloating has already begun

>>2358099
yeah probably. i don't remember if taft hartley was specifically invoked but they definitely cracked down on it

>>2358098
what are you talking about. it was obama that set the precedent of not needing congresses approval with libya. nobody honestly expects it a requirement anymore. dont try and twist this question around

>>2358100
buddy chat jibbidy is not a source. if you ask chat jibbidy for sources it will literally just make up books that don't exist because it's not allowed to leak its own training data.

>>2358106
But chat jibbidy is correct and you are incorrect.

>>2358105
>what are you talking about. it was obama that set the precedent of not needing congresses approval with libya.
…. lol you think tendency that started in 2011? try several decades earlier.

>>2358108
That's like an objective thing you could prove, is this LLM incorrect and yo are correct, or are you incorrect and it is correct. Just because you are a real human and it is an LLM doesn't mean you are correct.

>AI overview
>chatgpt
>grok
if you use these as research you should be beaten to death with frozen turds

So not only is the court opinion on birthright citizenship effectively "eh who cares" but parents are also now allowed to opt their child out of any school lessons that might include the possibility of learning that LGBTQ people exist. At least if Zohran becomes mayor he can declare the greater NYC area to be an independent commune maybe…

>>2358111
You are a certified retard. I remember when you were spamming this thread with the UFO nonsense about the drones or whatever,.


>>2358114
Richard Nixon secretly ordered bombings in Cambodia and Laos during the Vietnam War. He never sought congressional approval. Even after Congress cut off funds, the missions continued. Legal challenges failed. It took until 1973 for Congress to finally shut the operations down with funding restrictions.

>>2358111
>>2358113
You are just not a very smart person to put it more plainly. Your education was severely lacking. You are ignorant, your education was lacking, you don't understand basic concepts about reality.

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>all laws expire every 19 years
This was an insane idea was he just inhaling his farts here

>>2358113
He's right. That ai shit is a lie machine for ignorant retards and posting its slop here should be banned.

>>2358119
why 19? 20 is a nicer number for calculation


>>2358118
>your education was severely lacking
>your education was lacking
this is either AI (artificial intelligence) or AI (actually indians)

>>2358119
every single founding father was a bourgeois fart smeller

>>2358126
every single founding father was a glowing rapefiend

>>2358125
I'm not going to get racist on you, you are just Brazilian. You come from an inferior nation with no education and thus you are veryu ignorant and uneducated. I wish you could receive an education.

>>2358105
look AmeriKKKaner, I literally don't understand how the AmeriKKKan regime works and I don't care, but I have a very hard time believing less than 50% of the AmeriKKKaners are in favor of bombing the so called I-ran.

>>2358129
>I'm not going to get racist on you, you are just Brazilian
………. anon that's racist

>>2358122
>He's right. That ai shit is a lie machine for ignorant retards and posting its slop here should be banned.
But what it said was correct and what the real person I replied to was a lie. That is an objective fact. Research it for yourself.

>>2358112
>NYC becomes the most powerful and wealthy city-state in the world lead by Comrade Zohran
Apologize

>>2358131
you're talking to a chat bot

>>2358131
Brazillian isn't a race and did youy see what he said:
>>2358125
>or AI (actually indians)

>>2358130
>I literally don't understand
>I don't care
>I have a very hard time believing
scientific

>>2358136
>he doesn't know

>>2358136
>actually indians
yes that is also racist but he didn't bafflingly start his sentence with "I'm not going to get racist on you"
>Brazilian isn't a race
nationality is regularly used as a proxy for race by racists. i.e. mexicans getting called beaners and wetbacks, etc.

honkoid status?

>>2358138
damn i missed the opportunity to just steal a lot of food

>>2358139
>yes that is also racist but he didn't bafflingly start his sentence with "I'm not going to get racist on you"
Don't you think that statement could've been a response to his racist statement? But anyways he's just retarded. How about I speculate no more on the connection between his nationality and his lack of education. No more possibilities of racism.

>>2358138
Do people really buy food at Amazon in Amerikkka?

>>2358143
He is a great credit to the Brazilian nation.

>>2358145
no most people just go to whatever grocery store is closest to them, which 99 times out of 100 isn't going to be amazon

>>2358139
>yes that is also racist

it's not racist they actually did that

>>2358141
Birthright citizenship is dead, gay books are no longer allowed in schools, the Supreme Court says Trump can effectively do whatever he wants, and nobody here is even considering getting ready for a revolution.

So basically business as usual

>>2358145
i buy from walmart 😱 amerikkkan global grocery empire

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do it no balls

>>2358148
What do you mean?

>US Institute of Glowie Lying: Iran has nukes we have to go to war now!
<Nobody should ever believe the imperialist lies US Institute of Glowie Lying
>US Institute of Glowie Lying Polling Division: Over 50% of burgers who answered our survey said they support bombing Iran (poll methodology was dead-calling retired fox news watchers on their landlines in the middle of a work day)
<Ok this is proof Americans are ontologically evil


>>2358151
BREAKING TWITTER SCREENSHOT

>>2358156
But what is comparably racist by correlating FLSN anons lack of education and his Brazilian favela upbringing?

>>2358151
Cuckran government deserves this for believing westoids

>>2358159
idk anything about that, just talking about the indians quip

>>2358164
He shit on Indians, I shit on Brazilians, none of it is racist I agree. I wish him the best in the Indo-Brazilian wars. I have no dog in the fight.

I love that each and every day morons are waking up to the realization that the “rule of law” is a bourgeois spook and should not be depended on to secure your “rights.” Libs completely forgot about the Scalia court and every conservative court in history chipping away at the constitution. This birthright challenge was always going to happen. The problem is that if libs ever get in a position of power and majority again, they will ho back to the “rule of law” and vibes instead of going full force and cracking down on these fascist morons. Every “right” that has been eroded by Trump, libs will leave eroded like they always do after gaining power after a republican administration. The solution would be to implement a progrom and send every registered republican to a swan dive into a volcano

>>2358076
But this xenophobia thing, Europe included, goes far in excess of what's necessary to satisfy the cruelty of the rightoid bases. Like, you can't pogrom migrants in the first world. You can't actually pander to white nationalist demands without destroying your own economy either. Speed-running fascism makes no sense if one cannot actually go to war without crashing the economy or launching the nukes.

It feels like they are building a fascist movement against a socialist revolution that isn't coming.

>>2358174
The point is to launch the nukes, anon.

>>2358147
Oh yeah. I forgot that the US has no walkable and next to no easily traversable cities without taking a low way with the car.

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why wont khamenei just say "thank you"?

If Trump actually deports Zohran, would that cause riots in NYC or nothing would happen ?

>>2358180
There would absolutely be riots in NYC along with a breakdown of rule of law.

>>2358180
Nothing ever happens

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>>2358179
>long boring "how dare you lie sir" screed
he used to write bangers

>>2358180
I take it that Zohran is the new Dem "Heel" while Bernie finishes grooming AOC to replace him?

>>2358180
They cant mess with the Zohran and not expect consequences

>>2358194
>don't mess with the zohan reference
especially strange since that was a zionazi flop of a movie starring adam sandler as a literal IDF soldier

>>2358196
No way fr

>>2358196
Dont think too hard about it

>>2358199
the mantra of uncritical reaction

>>2358203
When it comes to jokes and catchphrases overanalyzing them will just make you sad

>>2358197
well considering some of the people on here were 3-5 when that came out it's not that obvious

>>2358205
i'm more angry than sad these days

>>2357589
So, I have a question: have the burger Supreme Court judges really just completely undermined their democracy by kneecapping their own judicial system?

>>2358210
Nah the presidency isn’t exactly a democratic institution but the courts are even less so, the court willingly giving up its veto is actually a concession TO democratic procedure. The problem is the guy they’re doing it for is a braindead neocon.

>porn gets ruled as not covered under the first amendment
lmao americans are going to live in a christ cuck shithole worse than any "muslim shithole" soon

It really is all projection

>>2358213
Outlawing porn would be a good move.

>>2358215
It’s going to mean any public expression of homosexuality

>>2358216
And that's before they come after gay marriage officially

>>2358215
how exaclty?

>>2358215
Outlawing porn vaguely is retarded because what is defined as porn is based on pure vibes.

Nudists beaches aren't considered pornographic. It's ALL vibes. People who support porn bans are just retards who don't understand that it means "we can ban whatever we deem obscene".

Don't like someone being violent on main? They clearly have a gore fetish, lock them up, etc.

>>2358218
It’s inherently misogynistic and requires sex trafficking

>>2358218
>mr. rapefiend
<how exaclty?

>>2358215
They aren't going to ban porn, they're going to ban "porn"

>>2358220
that sounds based
>>2358221
problem?

Makes zios seethe

>>2358224
Me and the bad bitch I pulled with Twelver Shiism

>>2358223
You are fiending for rape, a generally universal crime.

>>2358179
Same vibe

>>2358226
moralist, essentialist, undialectical, immaterial, etc

>>2358228
Yes, the opposite of rapist thought.

>>2358215
just gonna create a deregulated black market because that's what all prohibitionist implementations look like under capitalism

>>2358219
also it leads to weird shit like when australia declared adult women with small breasts to be a proxy for CP

THEY COME FOR THE BREAD
THEY COME FOR THE CIRCUS
THEY COME FOR THE TREATS
DAWN APPROACHES

>>2358242
The average "person" is a domesticated cattle who will clap like a retarded seal when they're shot in the head for gooning to hatsune miku 7 years ago (after the GOP legalizes punishing people retroactively for crimes)

>>2358245
NEHCEL COPE AND NOTHING
THE PROLETARIAT IS PRIMED

>"Based on this egregious Tax, we are hereby terminating ALL discussions on Trade with Canada, effective immediately," Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social. "We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven day period."
poutine status?

>>2357863
why are they all going to florida

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>>2358247
another pump and dump.

She woke up

>>2358248
Florida is a reactionary shithole

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>>2358257
and then they fucked, anyways i really hope someone wacks those faggots soon.

>>2358257
>"the socialist… woke… would follow you to Mars."

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>>2358258
maybe you could go on a suicide mission. two less billionaires and one less "rape fiend" is a good thing
>>2358257
>the woke socialist US government
tiresome

all porn will be banned soon

all citizenship will be meaningless soon

your lives will be forfeit soon

>>2358261
might makes right. using theology to justify what already happened as divinely ordained is just psychological warfare against the remaining resistance.

>>2358265
message brought to you by the WEF (but it's maga now so it's based)

>>2358266
what if all the reactionaries were right?
what if sheer barbaric force IS the only thing that matters in this world, and all else is a coping mechanism?

>>2358274
>reheated Duhring's Theory of Force

Read Anti-Duhring and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific for a thorough rebuttal of this.

>>2358180
there would be peaceful marches and posting on xitter

>>2358274
The ruling class uses force to defend its interests, but this cannot prevent the inevitability of social change driven by the contradictions within the mode of production. Force is not an independent or determining thing in itself; it is a tool wielded by a class to preserve power structures, but it is always a response to changing material conditions and class conflict. There comes a point where a mode of production has totally outlived its historical purpose and no amount of force can permanently preserve it. Force can at best postpone the inevitable and harshen the conditions of change.

>>2358213
That's not what the ruling says. The decision was basically "laws requiring porn shops to check ID at the door have been constitutional for decades, so therefore they can apply to the digital realm as well." It didn't really change the constitutionality of porn at all.

Porn sites will probably still be protected from shit like requiring 5 forms of identification specifically designed to harm their traffic and revenue

>>2358284
you know for a FACT that they're about to de facto ban it ALL

>>2358285
highly unlikely. we live in south park, not handmaid's tale

>>2358285
how would they even enforce it? obviously it's there to suppress vibes they don't like but banning porn is vague enough that you'd tie the courts up in frivolous cases for years over straight shit that is adult vs what is not adult.

>>2358213
not what was ruled, they ruled they can age restrict it from minors

>>2358284
oh someone beat me to it by 13 minutes

>bread (AKA necessities) are economically fucked and less available every year
>now christcucks want to ban the circus too because proles don't deserve even a second's escape from the immiseration
Yeah, this will surely end well for them

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>>2358296

>>2358285
Doubtful. A reactionary supreme court had every opportunity to shoot that arrow, but still refused to

The next fight for porn sites will probably be about the kinds of verification they're forced to do. Biometrics collection and data retention are unpopular among consumers.

But e-thots and gacha games… How can you curtail the right of people from selling sex to children?

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Dont worry guys we're already 40% of the way to communism!

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>>2358304
nobody is stopping that from happening. you're just being weird by bringing up underage people out of nowhere while naming yourself rape. nobody has to put up with your creepy shit.

>>2358307
sorry, it was in reference to the us id laws restricting pornography. which of course has no logical reasoning.

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>>2358301
>Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?!

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Lmao

>>2358313
>bernie is an anti semite too!
lol

>>2358220
not even the USSR could ban porn.
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/government/constitution/1977/constitution-ussr-1977.pdf
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Criminal_Code_of_Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic%2C_1961.pdf
don't gaze on silly stuff. they knew it was something that cannot be solved by a decrees or law by no reason. the only way to solve pornography is giving more opportunities to the US people, education, equality, equity and justice, so people, woman particularly because they are more vulnerable, have a need to do pornography.

>>2358301
and where is that right stipulated? name the USC code that guarantees that right.

>>2358319
Even I could tell that was irony

>>2358310
>Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?!
I never got why this was supposed to be an own on here. yes. the vast majority of normal ass people, including proles, do in fact regard children as innocent and not as valid targets. even when it comes to class war.

>>2358313
Someone resurrect the birthers, I want to watch a 4 hour YouTube video proving the Ayatollah is Obama's dad or something

Erotic art should be state funded and regulated. Decoupled from the demands of the market, erotic entertainment will displace pornography and mostly likely supplant it entirely.

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>>2358309
people will jerk it whether porn is legal or not. always have. always will.

Former Obama administration OMB Director Peter Orszag, the CEO of Lazard, sounded an alarm Thursday morning over the leftward direction of the Democratic Party, especially when it comes to its handling of antisemitism.

He spoke out on CNBC after far-left state Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani won the Democratic nomination for New York City mayor.

“I’m saddened to say the Democratic Party is becoming increasingly antisemitic and anti-capitalism… Turning away from your principles and towards antisemitism never works,” Orszag said on CNBC’s “Money Movers” this afternoon.

He went on: “The Democratic candidate for mayor has embraced the global intifada idea. The DCCC has distributed fundraising emails from a senior Democratic operative [James Carville] saying Jewish donors [are] only interested in tax cuts. The senior leadership in the party seems to have cognitive dissonance on Israel. It’s problematic.”

https://jewishinsider.com/2025/06/obama-omb-director-says-democratic-party-is-becoming-increasingly-antisemitic/

>>2358322
Because it's never actually about "the children" you fucking retard. "The children" is just an abstraction cynically employed to exploit the bourgeois sentimentality of people like you.

>>2358320
could it be a /pol/ drone make the silly point: reeee don't touch my right to sell porn to kids, how dare you, thoug?

>>2358302
>40% way to communism
is it 120% taxation turbocommunism?

>>2358330
i'm sure none of the pearl clutchers here ever looked at porn before they turned 18

>>2358324
they never went away. birthers and tea party just evolved into MAGA the same way US-backed mujahideen against soviet afghanistan evolved into al qaeda

>>2358333
that's not the point. there's a difference being a kid who goes out of their way to acquire porn and being an adult who actively peddles it to children

>>2358328
Dems are about a week away from unironically making "anti-capitalism is antisemitism" their 2028 platform

>>2358316
also let's be real, hand-drawn or animated stuff is not exploitative or reliant on human trafficking and shouldn't be treated the same

>>2358335
You're retarded

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>>2358335
so far the only examples are idk gacha? pretty sure thats not just for kids

>>2358342
your central point is a pre-supposition

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The ruling classes are getting nervous.

>>2358342
You're still retarded and you aren't owed an explanation beyond that.

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I've only ever seen porn bans proposed from people with really dishonest intentions so I kinda just implicitly don't trust anyone advocating for a porn ban.

It's stupid policy, it's not Marxist, and it doesn't benefit anyone except christcucks. No thanks.

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>>2358316 (me)
>have no need to do porn
ffs. I need to read more often before posting.

>>2358346
I will become a fifth columnist for Chairman Mamdani's government in exile

>>2358346
>Ogles
his face in dat pic looks like he's he's ogling his wife getting nailed by a black bvck

>>2358350
This. You'd have to be some kind of retard not to see that these initiatives are only about expanding control over the internet and what people can do on it. "Protect the children" is just the justification and focusing on porn is just the trojan horse.

>>2358347
>there's a difference being a kid who goes out of their way to acquire porn and being an adult who actively peddles it to children
<this is wrong and i don't have to say why

>>2358335
The internet has had adults preying on children since its inception. Real life has that too. Guess what no kind of policy is gonna change that. The only solution is teaching children proper online safety, just like you teach them not to trust strangers in real life you can teach them to not trust strangers online.

You're just looking to make life harder or more annoying for people who have no interest in your crusade. Just shut up dude.

>>2358358
Yeah, retard.

>>2358359
>Guess what no kind of policy is gonna change that. The only solution is teaching children proper online safety, just like you teach them not to trust strangers in real life you can teach them to not trust strangers online.
didn't disagree with this
>You're just looking to make life harder or more annoying for people
i never agreed with making porn illegal or even adding ID checks. actually all i said was
>there's a difference being a kid who goes out of their way to acquire porn and being an adult who actively peddles it to children
and trigger happy idiots immediately assumed that meant I was siding with the conservacucks in the broader discussion

>>2358360
11) Posts should, overall, be conductive to an informed and productive discussion. /leftypol/ is not an academic journal, but it also should not be a cesspit of back and forth bickering and pointless insults. Users should attempt to argue for the point they are presenting in an honest and open way and should be receptive to information or arguments that do, in fact, challenge their views.

>>2358358
nobody can counter you because you never made any argument to begin with, retard.

Actress Debra Messing wrote an Islamophobic comment on her Instagram in reference to New York City Democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, claiming that he “celebrated” 9/11.

“I have nothing against Socialism, don’t know where you got that,” Messing, who is known for her role in the sitcom “Will & Grace,” wrote in an Instagram comment replying to a user who called her out for sharing a reel denouncing socialism. “I voted against M because he celebrated 9/11. Let that sink in. I love my country. My reasoning is not Islamophobia. I’ve chosen to live in the most beautifully diverse city in the world. The same people who did 9/11 did Oct. 7. I just don’t want a mayor who sides with terrorists. Oh and he wants to defund the police. And he has no experience. I’ll stop here.”

>>2358358
You're one of those kinda sus guys whose entire personality revolves around loudly proclaiming how against pedophilia you are at all times, huh

>>2358366
>there's a difference being a kid who goes out of their way to acquire porn and being an adult who actively peddles it to children
<uhh uhh durr not an argument but also a wrong argument (can't say why though). regards, a literal rape fiend

>>2358368
>whose entire personality revolves around loudly proclaiming how against pedophilia you are at all times, huh
you get two responses on an anonymous imageboard, and assume that's my entire personality? anyway you're free to actually come up with a real response at any time instead of
>implying
i'm a pedophile for being against pedophilia

>>2358333
have they not, though? /pol/ is housed on one of the most degenerate places on internet, where in multiple occasions child pornography, zoophilia and other questionable pornographic material and other deviated behaviors have been shared.
infinite chan houses a /zoo/ board, and the silly /interracial/ while they discuss muh pure race and muh values with such an incredible enthusiasm.

>>2358370
>an adult who actively peddles it to children
<this exists (don't need to give proof though.)
>regards, a literal rape fiend
<im going to shit and piss myself over someones username because my politics are literally all optics anyways.

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>>2358374
>im going to shit and piss myself over someones username
you name yourself that to provoke a response then shit and piss yourself when people call you by your name

>>2358372
Please, keep reminding everyone ITT how much pedophilia is your least favorite thing. That's definitely a normal thing normal people spend a lot of time thinking about.

>>2358330 (me)
see? >>2358333 it wasn't sarcastic. lmao.

>>2358342
you are an ass hat

Ban all feet porn

>>2358376
>act shocked when this topic comes up while a guy literally named rape fiend is ITT screaming "let the kiddos look at smut"
selective attention i see
>>2358377
>well yes actually, problem?
go do it IRL and see how long it lasts before people put you in your place

>>2358219
>>2358350
>>2358357
Wrong. porn is banned in Communism because pornography is capitalist social relation
Article 152

Whoever, for the purpose of making profits or dissemination, smuggles pornographic movies, videotapes, magnetic tapes, pictures, books or periodicals or other pornographic materials shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than three years but not more than 10 years and shall also be fined; if the circumstances are serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than 10 years or life imprisonment and shall also be fined or be sentenced to confiscation of property; if the circumstances are minor, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance, and shall also be fined.

Whoever, evading Customs supervision and control, transports solid waste, liquid waste or gaseous waste from outside China into the territory of China, if the circumstances are serious, shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than five years and shall in addition, or shall only, be fined; if the circumstances are especially serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than five years and shall in addition be fined.

Where a unit commits any of the crimes as mentioned in the preceding two paragraphs, it shall be fined, and the persons who are directly in charge of the unit and the other persons who are directly responsible for the crime shall be punished in accordance with the provisions of the preceding two paragraphs.

Article 363

Whoever, for the purpose of profit, produces, duplicates, publishes, sells or disseminates pornographic materials shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also be fined; if the circumstances are serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than three years but not more than 10 years and shall also be fined; if the circumstances are especially serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than 10 years or life imprisonment, and shall also be fined or be sentenced to confiscation of property.

Whoever provides book numbers for another person to publish pornographic books or periodicals shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also, or shall only, be fined; whoever knowingly provides books numbers to another person who will use them for publishing pornographic books or periodicals shall be punished in accordance with the provisions of the preceding paragraph.

Article 364

Whoever disseminates pornographic materials including books, periodicals, movies, video-audio tapes and pictures, if the circumstances are serious, shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than two years, criminal detention or public surveillance.

Whoever arranges for shows of pornographic audio-video products including movies and video-tapes shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also be fined; if the circumstances are serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than three years but not more than 10 years and shall also be fined.

Whoever produces or duplicates pornographic audio-video products including movies and video-tapes and arranges for their show shall be given a heavier punishment in accordance with the provisions of the second paragraph of this Article.

Whoever disseminates pornographic materials to a minor under the age of 18 shall be given a heavier punishment.

Article 365

Whoever arranges for pornographic performances shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also be fined; if the circumstances are serious, he shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than three years but not more than 10 years and shall also be fined.

Article 366

Where a unit commits any of the crimes mentioned in Articles 363, 364 and 365 of this Section, it shall be fined, and the persons who are directly in charge and the other persons who are directly responsible for the offence shall be punished in accordance with the provisions of the Articles respectively.

Article 367

For the purpose of this Law, pornographic materials refer to obscene books, periodicals, movies, video-and audio-tapes, pictures, etc. that explicitly portray sexual behavior or undisguisedly publicize pornographic materials.

Scientific works on human physiology or medical knowledge are not pornographic materials.

Literary and art works of artistic value which contain erotic contents shall not be regarded as pornographic materials.
>>2358265
>>2358268
capitalist citizenship implies greater right than non-citizen therefore capitalist citizenship must be destroyed. buying rights is bourgeois

>>2358392
agreed.

>>2358397
>go do it IRL and see how long it lasts before people put you in your place
false equivalence, stay mad FOREVER

>>2358397
Have you actually presented an argument about anything or is every post of yours just going to be
>oh my stars, a namefag is being edgy online, somebody stop him!
or
>have i mentioned how much i hate pedos today?

>Everyone is talking about porn bans and communism.
Again: it's an alternative religion for lots of folks.

I think it's representative of the practical decay of Marxism from a revolutionary current that tries to change the real world to a bunch of theologians speculating about how many angels could fit on the head of a pin.

>>2358407
>how many angels could fit on the head of a pin.
7

>>2358401

>PRC

nah, they don't enforce that law as you try to make people think ITT.

>>2358405
>Have you actually presented an argument about anything or is every post of yours just going to be
yeah i did and i got called "retarded" and told I wasn't entitled to an answer and that being against pedophilia make me a pedophile… weird how you're outraged at me while pretending that I'm outraged for noticing that a guy named rape fiend is acting creepy and responding to that. your misdirection selective attention deflection and derailing do not go unnoticed

>>2358392
I second this

>>2358410
Ok so your argument is accusing people of being pedos. I don't know why I expected anything more

>>2358415
you literally accused anon of being a pedo for being against pedophilia.

the rape fiend guy was spamming "cunny" memes the other day but suuuuuuuuure the people who think he's a freak are the REAL pedos. kys.


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deranged fuck pearl clutching about pedophilia and accusing everyone of being a pedo? when did this shithole become twitter

>>2357872
>I’m angry because make believe communists in an online forum that nobody uses but losers who do nothing all day and cry about the revolution happening to their specific flavor
Touch grass my guy. Normal people are warming up to socialism and that’s the end of it. Go and talk to your fellow worker. I just had an extremely productive conversation with this guy who is socialist and is a Mamdani guy all the way. He’s Hispanic in an all black neighborhood and he constantly debates liberals and asshole conservatives to try and get their perspectives in order to convince them. That’s what is actually happening in the real world. Im having these discussions with real working class people. People who have been homeless and know what the fuck the problems are and know about the Democratic Party machine and how to fight it. I mean we literally just found a bunch of ways to undermine the machine through different channels that already exist in NYC. Times are a changing and people like us on the ground are changing shit unlike the losers here. So if you are feeling down cuz of losers on a forum then maybe your problem is that you spend too much time on reddit or in this forum. I come here for the shits and giggles and memes and to get my news, I don’t come here to have actual discussions of practical action.

>>2358419
>you're pearl clutching for calling out the ban evading freak who's been spamming cunny memes for days and calling himself rape fiend
>you're calling everyone a pedo and not just this one guy
>ummm you're pearl clutching even though you said you weren't in favor of banning porn
be more dishonest about it

>>2358417
>the rape fiend guy was spamming "cunny" memes the other day
LOL WTF?? when did i do this?? i did not do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stop confusing me for someone else ples.

>>2358302
So true

>>2358426
someone using your name was doing that

Nothin' wrong with some cunny meme here an there jus don't be messin w kids yo

>>2358430
literally this. who the fuck is offended by cunny memes in 2025? cringe ass motherfucker needs to go back to reddit.

Can we please stop talking about this retarded shit and go back to talking about politics in the USA

The USApol thread turns into /isg/ once again….

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>>2358418
5 out of a population of 1.4 billion? in 2010? where many people watches porn (picrel)
again, you are fixated on unimportant things. It's given that the Chinese used their right to self-determination to curve whatever problem pornography causes by taking extreme measures, but you will have a massive debate that won't lead to a meaningful evidence of a working policy, that doesn't necessarily lead to socialism on other places, and get your hypothetical government completely disliked.

>>2357900
What part of all this is not based?

>“Importantly, there are hundreds of millions of dollars of capital available to back a competitor to Mamdani that can be put together overnight (believe me, I am in the text strings and the WhatsApp groups) so that a great alternative candidate won’t spend any time,” he wrote.


>“So if the right candidate would raise his or her hand tomorrow, the funds will pour in.”


https://fortune.com/2025/06/26/bill-ackman-bankroll-nyc-mayoral-candidate-defeat-zohran-mamdani/

>As of May 2025, Ackman's net worth was estimated at $9.3 billion by Forbes. He is from Chappaqua, New York

>>2358447
why doesnt he just donate to cuomo's centrist run then?

>>2357900
<Love how when push comes to shove the liberals at /USApol/ will throw themselves at the feet of the first Strasserite who promises to expand the treat redistribution among the volk. But you also want us to believe that America can be communist. Sad!
uh, source? where exactly is this coming from

>>2358401
<Wrong. porn is banned in Communism because pornography is capitalist social relation
even if thats true i dont trust a capitalist government to do it withotu alterior motives

fascist country

>>2358447
>the -ACK
>MAN
the -ACK strikes again.
but he already won the DNC primaries, he's the de-facto demokkkrap candidate, is he going to pour those "hundreds of millions" into a rethuglican candidate?

>>2358432
>weirdos in an echo chamber of other weirdos think normal every day working class people are texting each other "cunny" memes
>everything i don't like is reddit

>>2358432
>reddit is hecking incompatible with my cunny memes
>looks inside
>several subreddits dedicated to this kind of "totally just joking" content

>>2358471
>>2358474
stop melting down over the fact you failed to fit in and just lurk moar

>>2358346
They know they're losing but need to keep up the narrative

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>>2358478
i've been here several years now and this "rape fiend" freak spamming cunny memes only showed up recently and you're oh-so-eager to picrel on his behalf

>>2358447
If it were that easy to beat a very popular and eloquent candidate Cuomo would've beaten Mandami. Either way. If Mamdani wins he will become one the greatest socialists of our time just because he made libs, zionazis and conservaturds cope and seethe beyond belief.

>>2358451
he already lost, he can't be democrat.

>>2358492
He still can fund his independent campaign to split enough demokraker voters for Republicans to win

>>2358438
Anti-porn freaks want to criminalize something 60% of the population at minimum all do.

It's not about protecting children, but by stressing people and placing them in a perpetual state of paranoia by outlawing something so common and widespread that everyone is a criminal to be arrested whenever it is convenient to arrest them

>>2358494
it'd be fun if the demokkkrats lose nyc, lmao. that's a bastion of the dnc.

>>2358492
Nobody can be the Democrat candidate other than Mamdani, Ackman is asking for an independent campaign.

>>2358447
>noooooo not my heckin billionorino0ooos!!!1!!

>>2358497
yes it is just like the drug war. it was already mentioned earlier ITT that prohibitionism doesn't work and is just an excuse for crackdowns. but I think people are confusing the wider debate over the exploitation and human trafficking in the porn industry itself over the question of making it illegal. people who come ITT and say things against human trafficking or whatever are getting confused with the people upholding bourgeois legalism.

>>2358456
nor should you. one of the glownonymous tor posters is a perrenial troll whose entire schtick is defending social conservatism under capitalism as communist because of passing resemblance to things in the PRC or USSR

>>2358504
>bourgeois-minded baizou capitalist affiliated "sexologist" pseud who's brain was not washed hard enough. This lumpen-gooner "research" is totally faked as pretext to normalize capitalist degenerate content
best name-calling LTE, there, champ.
>>2358504
>Pornography consumption is massive waste of labor.
so… sex workers aren't workers? pro-tip: they sell labor, they are
>inb4 they own the means of re-production, therefore they are bourgeoisie.
>Pornography consumption is anti-social
on what earth consuming pornography damages society? you can't back this up with an evidence-based elaborated argument. I have never seen evidence-backed arguments that put pornography consumption as anti-social.
>Pornographic industrial complex
oh, so are you ok with people individually doing their porn and selling it from themselves, but not ok with the likes Feras Antoon, Lansky, etc.? is that it? got it.

>>2358516
>PRC
>USSR
funny, he ignored my post I did where it shows how the USSR didn't care about pornography. he probably will deflect to muh failed project or not true socialism because muh porn wasn't banned.
that's 100% a pol-tier moron. ugh.

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>>2358438
>Pan Suiming and western colleagues
bourgeois-minded baizou capitalist affiliated "sexologist" pseud whose brain was not washed hard enough. This lumpen-gooner "research" is totally faked as pretext to normalize capitalist degenerate content
>a massive debate that won't lead to a meaningful evidence of a working policy
There is no debate. Pornography consumption is massive waste of labor. Pornography consumption degenerates any society. Pornography consumption is anti-social. Pornographic industrial complex cannot exist under socialist relation.
>>2358497
It's totally faked by a baizou enacting the capitalist agenda
>>2358514
Wrong. The People's War on Drugs must be waged to destroy capitalist degeneracy. The People's War on Drugs is successful. https://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng//zggs/202406/t20240620_11438701.htm
https://www.mps.gov.cn/n2255079/n6865805/n7355748/n7355818/c10114681/content.html
>ue to continuous stringent crackdowns, the market supply of heroin and crystal meth in China has decreased, with national retail prices continuing to rise, reaching 1,465 yuan/gram and 1,615 yuan/gram, up 16% and 33% year-on-year, respectively.
Meth is ten times more expensive in nominal terms, fifteen or twenty times more expensive in real terms, in Communist China than ameriKKKa thanks to the successful People's War on Drugs.

>>2358497
I think it's important to point out too that this is just another prong on the attack on civil rights in general, and that the "they're peddling porn to children!" is the same cover story they're using to attack public schools and libraries in Florida and the rest of the US.

It's all very cynical because these people supposedly advocating to protect "the children" have no qualms about exposing them to similarly "pornographic" material with "obscene" content when it suits their ideological purposes, like the Bible, or actually physically hurting children in other ways that they deem acceptable like contact sports or sexual conversion camps. They're only against "porn/obscene material" when it comes to children being exposed to sex education, concepts of bodily autonomy or consent, or novel sexual identities.

So in that regard if the disingenuous question is "do you support selling porn to minors?" the answer should be "yes", because the actual content of the argument isn't whether or not schoolchildren should be able to buy Hustler, but whether or not they have the right to access information which challenges or subverts the ability for reactionaries to dominate, control, and exploit them.


>>2358522
>because the actual content of the argument isn't whether or not schoolchildren should be able to buy Hustler, but whether or not they have the right to access information which challenges or subverts the ability for reactionaries to dominate, control, and exploit them.
maybe lead with that instead of answering "yes" to their disingenuous question which is literally taking their bait

>>2358407
To elaborate a bit more: I heard a guy once differentiate dialectical materialism from moralism by saying that dialectical materialism is about understanding history—warts and all—and not letting moral judgements corrupt your analysis.

Now to me that was quite a liberating thing; because if you look at history without trying to impose a moral framework on it, things like the liberal critiques of the USSR dissolve. Because you can recognize the inherent absurdity of Churchill weeping over the Holodomor while presiding over the Bengali famine. There was an ad I saw the other day on TV, and it was the most absurdly fascist thing I’d seen—it was called “The American Edge Project” and it started with this red-filtered image of guys in body armor clubbing a crowd of protesters; some deep-voiced narrator exclaims “China’s vision of the future is one of control; we can’t lose the AI race to them.” Then it extolled the virtues of American freedom and prosperity and tried to rally the viewer to find AI research. And you know, looking at it through materialist lenses, it’s just ridiculous. I can turn on the news and see videos of masked men kidnapping my countrymen in my city, but I should be worried about “China’s insidious agenda of total control”. Like you abandon moralistic notions of “inscrutable celestials” when you adopt a framework rooted in dialectical materialism.

Yet though that analysis is supposed to be directed towards liberatory politics and making smart strategic/tactical decisions, instead people utilize it to develop just another moral framework that allows them to imagine a society constituted around their individual wants, justifying their prejudices or perversions, and ultimately not escaping the trap of idealistic thinking.

What matters is achieving actual power, tangible change in the real world. But instead we’ve got jackasses wondering if communism will ban their least favorite art, or lower the age of consent, or if heterosexuality will be eliminated once communism gives us genetically modified femboys capable of getting boipreggers. It’s all speculating about a society that won’t exist because people only want to use Marxist tools to speculate.

Ms Taylor Greene suggested the GOP could learn from Mr Mamdani’s successful campaign, which will see him contest the November election as a front runner in a city that has not elected a Republican since 2005.

“I’ve watched quite a few of [Mamdani’s] videos and he did something pretty unique and very smart, even though I don’t agree with anything he says”, the congresswoman told Real America’s Voice.

Ms Taylor Greene added: “He really ran a campaign where he talked directly to the people. He was focused on their issues, focused on their problems and talking to the people about his solutions even though his solutions were insane, they’re socialist, probably communist, but he was talking directly to the people.”

She said: “When we’re not talking to the people and not working on the people’s problems we lose the people and the people will turn elsewhere.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/06/27/marjorie-taylor-greene-zohran-mamdani-smart/

>>2358545
>inscrutable celestials
continues to be my all time favorite racist insult against the chinese. it makes them sound so fucking cool

>>2358550
If anybody is gonna get the Long Knives treatment in the burgerreich it's probably gonna be her, plus Tucker and Candace.

>>2358550
expert analysis from mtg. wow.

>>2358545
>To elaborate a bit more: I heard a guy once differentiate dialectical materialism from moralism by saying that dialectical materialism is about understanding history—warts and all—and not letting moral judgements corrupt your analysis.
One reason why I respect China is they tend to be like this more than many. If you watch their coverage of the B-2 strikes on Iran on their military affairs channel, it's really focused on the technical capabilities of the bomber without any fake A.I. slop. But they want to build things like that themselves and also the things which can defeat it. It's not this attitude about how the U.S. bombing Iran is "bad" (although it is) so therefore it either didn't happen or didn't happen in the way they're telling us.

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He dont miss

>>2358545
> people only want to use Marxist tools to speculate.
we live in a society of speculators, whether it's financial speculation, or punditry, or moralizing, or fictional worldbuilding. we don't like actually doing things because doing things means having to frequently set goals and pursue them. that sounds like a 2nd job.

Shit is cooking

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>>2358550
>He really ran a campaign where he talked directly to the people. He was focused on their issues, focused on their problems and talking to the people about his solutions even though his solutions were insane, they’re socialist, probably communist, but he was talking directly to the people
someone show MTG vid related

>>2358550
She's not wrong. Part of the success of Fetterman's campaign involved him going to every county and talking to people. Making actual physical appearances and talking with people about their problems also majorly contributed to Trump's first election success. Howard Dean proposed a similar strategy way back when to beat Bush, though the dnc rejected it.

Part of the reason it isn't done more often is because it's so successful, but that success is a double edged sword. People expect you to follow through on your promises, and failing or refusing to deliver basically destroys your credibility. This has been a big problem for both parties for years, where republican voters ruthlessly punished "RINOs", and now Democrats are facing problems because outside of promises to "fight for x" they also don't deliver on any concrete gains for regular people.

>>2358316
The state should just make porn but require the women to be dominant. That way it encourages social progress.

>>2358556
China does have a lot of AI slop though in general. Removing moralism also means being willing to use deceptive tactics to achieve your political goals so long as the means aren't damaging to your cause. China isn't above using AI for propaganda, it's all over Tiktok and Twitter.

The real point is just, dialectical materialism requires having an open mind. If you shed the moralist framing of banning porn then you just crash into a bunch of societal problems it creates for not much benefit beyond restoring the "dignity" of sex or whatever. Ironically China's porn ban is entirely framed as some moralist "spiritual purity" bullshit. Even the Chinese are aware that it makes no sense to ban porn, but they did it to combat Western-influenced traffickers.

oh this again

>>2358576
The state should send dominant women to me to teach me a lesson.

yeah "academic elites" are pushing kendrick lamar and it's not that kendrick lamar is popular so academics try to appeal to whats popular
no it must be THE ACADEMIC ELITES

>>2358580
>Hip hop is primarily an anti-working class genre of "music,"
you're a fucking idiot

>z flag being racist
What a surprise.

>>2358565
How so? I figured that since Trump backed off on some of his worse policies things would calm down

>>2358293
And how do you do that on the internet, where NOTHING can realistically stop you if you want to go someplace?
By placing a responsibility upon websites on pain of legal destruction that's so impossible to achieve that the site has to fucking shut down.

>>2358591
uyghᴇr

>>2358580
Man shut the fuck up and go back to spamming the n word

>>2358561
>unironic David Hogg enjoyer
his life is a miss.

>>2358609
I swear some people here have sticks lodged permanently in your asses

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you'll never take our lifestyle, zohran

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>>2358612
Yes, I do not enjoy the Hogg or his familial ties to the deep state.

>>2358614
Lollerskates

>>2358174
The building socialist revolution is in the periphery of the empire anon. You have to unspook yourself of national borders when there is a transnational capitalist class.

>>2358545
>people only want to use Marxist tools to speculate.
Your bourgeois mind fails to grasp the essence of dialectical materialism. Your bourgeois pessimism reduces the proletarian science to nothing. Dialectal materialism is not mere speculation, but the highest form of science. The bourgeois pseud denies that social development proceeds in conformity with objective laws, holding that scientific prevision of the future is impossible on the grounds that the future depends on people’s intentions and desires, which no one can prophesy. The plans and aspirations of the mass of the people are determined by the objective conditions of their lives. Therefore, knowledge of the tendencies resulting from the laws of development of contemporary society enables us to foresee the future course of events. The future does not arise out of nothing but merely realizes the possibilities inherent in the present. The power of human thought lies in its capacity to go beyond the bounds of the immediate moment, to understand past developments, and to foresee those of the future by means of the objective laws that it has discovered. By revealing the laws governing the operation and development of the forces of nature and society, Marxism-Leninism, only genuine, revolutionary science can always foresee the future. The proletarian science of the laws of social development enables us not only to chart the correct path through the labyrinth of contradictions, but to foresee the course events will take, the direction of historical progress and the next stages of social advance.

>>2358614
Imagine the reactions when the actual revolution starts up.

>>2358601
Yeah, like that bill a few years ago, FISA I think? It had some revenge porn shit in it that was crazy. Basically any image or video hosting website would have to have moderators working round the clock, because penalties for hosting "unauthorized porn" started from the instant a complaint was received and compounded every hour that the allegedly offending image remained accessible. Essentially all it would take to destroy a site like leftypol would be for someone to upload a picture of their girlfriend onto it, submit a complaint while mods were asleep, and then wait for the government to hit the site with thousands of dollars in fines.

And that's all aside from the child porn database the government wants to set up.

In case you dullards need a reminder:

RACE IS A SPOOK
THERE IS NO MEANINGFUL DEFINITION OF "WHITE"
WE ARE ALL UYGHURS UNDER THE BOOT OF CAPITALISM
EMANCIPATION COMES THROUGH REVOLT

>>2358595
>I figured that since Trump backed off
He really hasn’t. And even the ones he actually did (temporarily) back off from left permanent worsening damage.

>>2358550
MTG in her insanity is right. it's a shame she doesn't want to implement the only tool capable of solving people's troubles.
>>2358565
what's cooking, chef.
>>2358591
>failing for b8s.
lurk moars.

>>2358632
>the prole is the uyghur of the world
woah….

>>2358220
I prefer watching gay porn.

>>2358651
i prefer drawing my own porn (dworkinites BTFO'd)

>>2358614
>I got this by trafficking drugs women and children

this is satire right? like a random guy is just pointing at a boat that isn't his and doing a funny joke … right?

>>2358224
the dsa will see him either elected->then he will abandon every declaration the dsa will make without kicking him off the dsa party/get sabotaged by the demokkkraps to the point of getting him in second place and they will keep tailing the DNC like good dogs.
fun show, fun times.

>>2358657
…yes it's obviously satire dude

>>2358224
God damn she's hot.

>>2358657
I believe the point is satirical, yes.

>>2358657
No it's not. That's Timoty Dilloninski, one of the world's worst weapons traffickers. It's widely believed he gave saddam those wmds.

>>2358661
source?

>>2358665
>>2358676
>>2358677
I ask because I saw a non-satire video the other day of an Israeli settler saying that all the kids in Gaza are Hamas, so I have to ask

>>2358684
have you not ever seen aoc abandoning every dsa resolution? on BDS, on war on terror, on israel, and then gleefully ignoring what she did, and never kicking her out? the D.FUCKING.S.A.? who bragged about having ties with the ned?
fun times, indeed. i love zionists coping hard, though.

>>2358556
>>2358581
>China does have a lot of AI slop though in general. Removing moralism also means being willing to use deceptive tactics to achieve your political goals so long as the means aren't damaging to your cause.

Okay so this might verge on some liberal “just like my Harry Potter!!!!” take, but a buddy of mine watched Andor and was raving at how good it was, and said I’d specifically like Skarsgaard’s character. So I figure I’d read a brief description of the guy online and it turns out he’s this amoral spymaster, very much an “ends justify means” type of character. Now, that wasn’t the interesting part, the interesting aspect was reading some of the fan reactions.

Lots of people, apparently, thought that there’d be some twist where it turns out he was secretly a villain all along. Others couldn’t really comprehend a character that doesn’t fit in this stark “good or evil” moral binary, and it just seems to have broken their brains to think there’s a guy fighting for an unabashedly good thing using ruthless methods. We’re used to bad guys with good motives, good guys who swear a lot, but “good guy without moral fetters” is a trope that doesn’t get much attention these days. It runs against decades of programming that there’s always a third option or that such ruthlessness doesn’t pay off in the long run. It can deeply disturb people when you say:
>”Yeah, the guy that executes people for knowing too much, that cynically uses tragedies, and manipulates events to cause showy civilian casualties? He’s right.”

And I think this kind of plays at a divide both within the Left and within radical politics as a whole. I’d say when it comes down to inner left disputes, you’ve got Anarchists taking the side of conventional morality and MLs asserting the need to go beyond that. Then within Left v Right, you’ve got a Right that’s completely unrestrained by moral conventions and a Left that’s ultimately a slave to moral concerns. This lack of restraint gives the Right a great deal of practical power because they only focus on the goal of attaining power and shaping the world how they want. Everyone knows Lindsay Graham takes it up the ass but no one cares as long as he serves their interests—while on the left we’ve got a million terms for orgs failing some standard of purity “oh they’re revisionist, they’re opportunists, they’re tailists, they’re idealists” and on and on and on, meanwhile Nazis are watching their wives get fucked and using meth and being degenerates but still lurching the world towards their vision ‘cause they use whatever they can. In Basketball terms, our team is bickering over the perfect defense, what strategy are we gonna use, and meanwhile our opponents are disorganized and just taking every shot they can. Liberals constantly use the threat of “the other guy is worse” to try and discipline the Left, and again and again we fall for it. Look at Macron in France sounding the alarm about the right, proposing an alliance with the Left, and then when the Left does better than expected in an election he… elevates the Right.

Use whatever works; lie, compromise, sacrifice, be ruthless cause everyone else is. Or sit on your hands and worry if Shakespeare is reactionary or whatever.

>>2357928
The mushrooms are telling you you're a delusional tweaker with an unwarranted sense of importance.

>>2358046
Ah, yes, the Volume 1 and 2 of the Hammer Sickle Book.
The most dangerous of all Communist text. Zohran truly is on another level.

>>2358690
The NED can be pushed left.

>>2358692
that conversation ended like 5 hours ago please don't bring him back. he'll start threatening to flay people again

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>>2358046
lmao. this is getting ridiculous.

>>2358227
>>2358179
Very rude to compare Ustadh Joker to Donald Trump.

>>2358046
>threatening to deport an electoral candidate because you don't like his politics
Yeah the us political system is doing just fine

>>2358119
No one alive today voted for the constitution. It's illegitimate if you believe in democracy.

>>2358620
If even lib true believers like Hogg are publicly attacking the DNC you know they are fucking up big time.

>>2358727
>if you believe in democracy
I don't.

>>2358691
>And I think this kind of plays at a divide both within the Left and within radical politics as a whole. I’d say when it comes down to inner left disputes, you’ve got Anarchists taking the side of conventional morality and MLs asserting the need to go beyond that. Then within Left v Right, you’ve got a Right that’s completely unrestrained by moral conventions and a Left that’s ultimately a slave to moral concerns.
I get really pissed off about this because if you ever bring it up in leftist spaces or question why every issue has to be framed as "us normal people vs degenerate weirdo strawmen" it just completely eliminates any chance of constructive discourse. I'm so tired of having to justify to other leftists that it's not a requirement to support various liberal social causes to be a Marxist. You can in fact be a Marxist and a TERF or a Marxist and a black separatist or whatever and the whole Left-wing doesn't have to orbit around American liberal political frameworks.

>>2358728
Cool.Then it still illegitimate anyway considering the founders had to vote for it to exist as law in the first place. If voting does not give legitimacy then the constitution was never legitimate at all.

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This time Mamdani is finished

>>2358736
>You can in fact be a Marxist and a TERF or a Marxist and a black separatist or whatever

Yeah in the same way you can be a marxist and a Conservative. You're right that you don't have to support lib shit to be a marxist but this "neocons are on our side too" shit ain't it.

>>2358744
I wish someone would put a bullet in this loser.

>>2358744
literally who? does this guy have any sway?

>>2358747
I think he was Trump's impeachment lawyer who for some reason has a reputation as a "respectable moderate" even though he isn't

>>2358744
Lmao, pedos hate Zohran the Barbarian

>>2358744
>The Dersh has spoken
It's over.

>>2358745
That's not the point I'm making actually. It's helpful to look at your (pet social issue) from a Marxist lens and identify how to frame it in a way that doesn't overly rely on liberal moralist slop. ie, Trans people deserve rights not because they're "heckin valid and sexy" but because they're your fellow humans and you should treat them with respect regardless of whether you think they're mentally ill or not, just like you would treat anyone else for their various personality quirks. Various left-wing cultures don't have the same LGBT culture America does, and that doesn't make them fake Marxists. I'm just using LGBT as the most obvious example but, you can in fact be a Marxist while still respecting the role of the family ie the state should aim to keep the divorce rate low to promote family units that can better support children. You can be a Marxist while being religious, for example Islamic Communism or Christian Communism.

You can be a Marxist and the only requirement is that you support the concept of a classless society. That's literally it. Everything else can be argued from that, like "women need equality because class and gender are interlinked and providing women with education and rights allows them to better contribute to society" or "trans people have just as much working class potential as anyone else and their needs should be considered by the state just like anyone else."

Actually what I'm realizing is that the framing of all these issues through a moral lens tends to encourage the current political climate. People say Republicans are responsible for America's moral deterioration but the Democrats are just as responsible for framing every issue as a moral imperative. When politics turns into two competing moral frameworks with zero political nuance it becomes impossible to develop your beliefs beyond what currently exists. Democrats can't ever compromise on their beliefs because that would be heckin bigotry and the end of the world for their big tent, and Republicans can't ever compromise on their beliefs because they are united by God to destroy the satanic cult of homosexuality infecting America. It's all so tiring trying to dig into people's brains to find common ground you can develop to achieve a better world but their brain is occupied by nothing but thoughts of their own moral superiority to everyone else.

>>2358747
>>2358748
Dershowitz is a notoriously scummy yet super successful celebrity lawyer. He's emblematic of everything wrong with the American justice system.

>>2358759
He was also Epstein's lawyer, friend, and fellow enjoyer of children.

>be talking shit about capitalism with friend
>she tells me she'd rather live in a socialist country
>I ask her which one
>"Oh like one of the Noreic countries or Germany"

Wtf do I say brehs? Not trying to ruin the friendship

>>2358761
Tell her RuZZia is nordic actually because of Karelia

>>2358761
>that's awesome anyways you wanna come over to my place?
and then you show her your altar of karl marx

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>>2358756
>You can be a Marxist while being religious, for example Islamic Communism or Christian Communism.
Real pseud hours

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>>2358756
>You can be a Marxist while being religious, for example Islamic Communism or Christian Communism.

>>2358744
Doesn’t this retard fuck underage girls?

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>>2358756
Kill yourself retard

>>2358761
this is a redpill right here. 90% of America's populace thinks that like, the system Sweden has is "socialism"

>>2358772
holy based

>>2358761
weeeeeell, she might be less reactionary than your average (acknowledge this) burgerstani, but you should tell her that those countries are not socialist if they are part of nato (or under their umbrella to), because their welfare program is just redistribution of the stolen plundering abroad, ergo whatever crap they have can be taken away in the whims of the rich.

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>>2358761
Tell her about China's meteoric rise and development while those Nordic countries have had stagnant economies based on American handouts for 70 years.

>>2358772
you're just a faggot pseud that still thinks hating religion is edgy. religion is whatever you make of it. my ideal Marxist state has a state religion based around cute anime girls encouraging you to help your fellow man.

also, you aren't a Communist.

>>2358768
nta, but as long you don't allow your political, economical, and material decisions, to be guided by the idealisms of theology, you can be religious, and have conversations and enjoy time with religious peers that aren't obnoxious pentecostal evangelical maniacs.

>>2358778
>t. Opioid addict

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>>2358778
>you're just a faggot pseud
<my ideal Marxist state has a state religion based around cute anime girls

>>2358781
I'm an Atheist from a Muslim background that just doesn't really care about religion rather than being antagonistic towards it. If I can get a religious person to agree with the ideals of a classless society I'm not gonna split hairs over what magic sky deity he prays to.

>>2358782
reddit atheists like you really do hold this movement so far back, but you're too autistic to understand
hang yourself uyghur

>>2358784
reddit theists outright bury the movement
hang yourself muslim christian shitlib pseud

>>2358772
be careful with the interpretation of that screenshot. that happened for the various reasons, mainly related to the seditious and counter-revolutionary activities in which the church engaged, because the church had a lot of power under the tzar era (similar to the UK today, btw), thus it was forbidden to engage with activities that could be connected to the church.
also, note that it states "religious ceremonies". if a communist party wanted to pray in the comfort of his room, it wasn't forbidden.

>>2358783
>that just doesn't really care about religion
Cool story

>>2358761
Ease into it. Say it's better than American but not your ideal. Socialism is when workers own everything. Nordic countries are so nice compared to USA because workers had more power than normal because of the USSR was giving capitalists outside pressure.

>>2358777
>>2358778
Norway has a big state owned oil company and uses the revenue to fund various benefits for citizens. Not real socialism but better than most.

>>2358785
>reddit theists outright bury the movement
<China: state Atheist with a deep history of many different ethnic groups with different religions, all interacting harmoniously
<Vietnam: state Atheist but culturally folk/ancestor worship dominant
<India: all the Communist dominated states or states with a large Communist presence are very religiously diverse and use Communism to protect their religious minorities from Hindu Nationalism
<Cuba: fully Catholic
<Brazil: fully Catholic
<Argentina: fully Catholic
<Chile: fully Catholic
<Soviet Union: State Atheist country with a very large amount of Orthodox Christians and Jews who undermined the authority of the state by collaborating with Capital
I understand why the Bolsheviks hated religion but the reddit Atheists pseuding out over it just get annoying. Even Mao while an Atheist eventually gave up on eliminating religion from China because it was a waste of time. Bringing religious people into the fold through propaganda and developing cultural ties with the state is more effective.

>>2358350
i would expect this take from a man that saves porno anime girls on his computer

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>>2358761
social fascists cannot be reformed

The glowies want to make you shoot things up
They purposefully make bad and contradictory posts, the site itself glows with contradictory flags, they post out of context quotes. They want to make you think they're actually arguing that religion is perfectly compatible with Marxist thought and materialism, when in reality their real goal is to get you riled up to shoot up a church, a mosque or a synagogue.
Don't fall for it, its not yet the time to kill religious vermin.
"Religious communism" as a mismatch of words, just as Marx criticized Utopian socialism exist only to provoke and derail. The site is glowing with glowing mods and glowing full time employed users that try to tell you all about "islamic and christian communism", they're trying to get you riled up and go and kill a bunch of muslims and christians to get yourself in jail.
It's not yet the time to exterminate reactionary religious vermin, adventurism doesn't work and they have not set themselves as active reactionaries yet since there is no revolution for them to oppose nor any program for socialization and re-education. When the time comes the ones that need to be executed will be executed, until then wait and watch how liberal glowies cry about "reddit atheism" as if Marx was not an atheist and a critic of religion himself.
One of two things come from this post, either it gets taken down to defend liberal intersectionality idpol or it gets flooded with liberal religious modernizers posing as "communists".

>>2358350
Never trust efforts to "ban porn" from non-communists because its always ideologically grounded in some spooky moralizing bullshit. Not to mention their definition of what they consider "porn" ends up getting weirdly skewed to include things like depicting LGBT people in media.

>>2358797
Everytime i see a lenin hat post i know im going to read a psycotic screed yearning for the death of thousands or millions of people he has never met

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>>2358791
Glowie bait
don't fall for it

Are we in full fascism yet?

>>2358769
The Revolutionary Bimbo Committee.


>>2358550
Based MTG being the only principled amongst the MAGA.

>>2358801
that's not b8. nta, but it's quite right. the USSR also abandoned the prosecution of religious people, because that only made everyone captured a martyr among the uncultured people.

>>2358808
No I specifically meant after the recent Supreme Court decision on injunctions.

>>2358770
kek. I wonder what would think Marx of the modern-day "Marxists".

>>2358248
The get all that guᛋᛋano puᛋᛋy

>>2358251
Imagine if burgers would ban double citizens in elected charges and limit foreign money to politics.
In a post United Citizens world more probable is the comunist revolution lol

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>>2358804
>>2358808
you already were.


><Cuba: fully Catholic

><Brazil: fully Catholic
><Argentina: fully Catholic
><Chile: fully Catholic
neither chile nor cuba are majority catholic

ADL CEO says white supremacist are not a big problem. That the REAL problem is leftist who oppose Israel and capitalism. That they need to focus on those

https://forward.com/news/726133/greenblatt-adl-protesters-terrorists/


>>2358820
All far right people do is post memes online they never actually go outside and organize of course he fears leftist more as they take real action in real life. There is no organized movements on right that are even anti Israel. Also the small groups on right that oppose Jews and go outside get called feds by everyone on the right

The left are the only side actually fighting against Israel and Jewish power in real material ways. They even attack weapons facilities that are sending weapons to Israel and block them. The worst things people on far right do is post viral tweets or share memes on 4chan, that's it.

He understands that the right isn't a threat to Jewish power.

>>2358823
IDK, the right certainly came out for Trump, and even if he betrayed them, he ran on a "peace" platform. I'd be afraid of the blowback of lying to millions.

>>2358823
>All far right people do is post memes online they never actually go outside and organize
literally all American terrorism in the last 30 years has come from right-wingers except one guy that shot a healthcare CEO.

>>2358838
Agreed, although to be fair to the original guy there are absolutely European left-wing groups taking "real action" such as those British Pro-Palestine Anarchists.

will dumpf try to abolish term limits?

>>2358756
Good on you.

I think some element of Marx’s thought that gets kind of underwritten today is how our labor changes us. I work with right wingers, I work with an Iranian expat that’s big on the Ayatollah falling, I work with vets, I work with trans people, I work with black and white and Asian people, I work with people of different faiths and sexualities and religions. And let’s take a moment to appreciate the fact that there was once a time where me working with a Muslim could’ve gotten me burned at the stake and then executed, or a white person and black person sitting down and having a meal would’ve gotten the Klan involved. Yet here we are working together and engaging in the same labor, lending each other a hand, socializing with one another.

And I think it’s a deviation from Marxism to say “oh this group and that is hopeless, this one or that is bad” because if you’re in the workplace and having a good relationship with your coworkers, you recognize they’re humans like you with human struggles. Shit the other day I saw this article from this contractor who said he stopped supporting Trump cause the guys he worked with were all undocumented and either were deported themselves or knew someone who was, and while liberals were raking him over the coals for his sins, I was thinking that while this guy made a boneheaded move not realizing that Trump wasn’t gonna just deport the “bad” Hispanics (which are mostly a right wing news trope) he at least recognized the humanity in them and experienced some kind of shame and disappointment. He wasn’t the huge companies calling ICE on their own workers. Laboring with people has a tendency to dissolve differences.

The goal of Marxists then, as you say, should be allowing people to contribute or be a part of the wider movement even if they don’t share the exact social views inasfar as those views don’t become a burden to organizing.

Well then the question seems to be “how do you make a conservative Marxist”, but I think that’s the wrong way to think about it. It’s not turning other people into Marxists, but getting them to accept you. You don’t need them to affirmatively say “I am a Marxist” if anything that interest can wait till later, if ever. An ironic example is that when Kerensky was fleeing the Bolsheviks, he supposedly claimed to see graffiti saying “Down with the Jew Kerensky! Long live Trotsky!” And as absurd as that sounds, it shows that the Russian Revolution reached past seemingly contradictory elements of the masses’ psyches to direct them towards a common goal.

>>2358838
They also write all the manifestos and fanfiction too. Like what's supposed to be the leftist equivalent of Siege? Or The Turner Diaries?

made for bbc

>>2358877
Back to your cuck board, /pol/ack

>>2358872
We don't need to write any of that gay shit to keep the movement alive. Ever since capital released practically every historical and ideological development thus far has been in response. You can't get very far without that santa claus lookin uygha rearing his head.

>>2358838
And all the right wing terrorism never challenges Zionism at all or anyone with power only civilians.

They're barricading the white house so some heinous shit is about to be pushed through, maybe this weekend

>>2358872
???? Those books are absolute retardation

>>2358872
I could've sworn there were speculative fiction stories that have a left wing bent to them, but even so there's no way they are as influential as the Turner Diaries.

>>2358889
Now they're unbarricading it.
>source: my arse

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>>2358820
I knew we'd be getting (another) Israel-backed Holocaust, but I didn't expect for the Association of American National Jews to come right out and say it so early!

>>2358872
>the leftist equivalent of Siege?
Marighella's Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla
>Or The Turner Diaries?
The Dispossessed by Le Guin

>>2358890
As awful as they are quality-wise, they've also directly inspired people to kill and do terror attacks, and that's something you dont really get with leftist literature except outright glowie shit that's designed to fuck you over like the Anarchist Cookbook. We dont really have much in the way of speculative fiction stories that also outline our worldview and how to achieve it and I think that's a niche worth looking at. By default the left is generally way better at writing anyways, it couldn't be that hard to craft something both actually readable and that spurs disenfranchised readers to action.

>>2358898
Terror attacks which just target civilians and no one with power. Terror attacks just based off racism and nothing else

>>2358901
Didn't McVeigh literally blow up an FBI building?

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ADL declares Mamdani supporters OFFICIALLY antisemitic:

In a long, 18 paragraph X thread, the Anti-Defamation League has now declared that supporters of the NYC mayoral candidate Mamdani are officially antisemitic extremists.

https://x.com/ADL/status/1938653025716908541

>>2358906
The ADL is literally just a branch of the Israeli government.

>>2358906
They also recently declared Nazism "not an issue" when discussing antisemitism.
For the love of God just call these brazen hypocrites antisemites and Nazis right back in their faces PLEASE.

>>2358898
I think the value that White Nationalists got out of the Turner Diaries is it had some practical advice for how a terror cell in the U.S. would work, right? I thought I heard something like that.

That aside, I once brought up to some folks in the CPUSA that back in the day, generals used to do war gaming to train for real war. Over the years you had those games get more complex on the strategic level, but also a move towards more “individual” soldiers on the other end of the spectrum; which would later lead to Gary Gygax creating D&D. Hypothetically, you could homegrown a TTRPG style game that’s all about organizing a socialist revolution or electoral campaign or what have you. Some people thought it was cool, and it could serve the “edutainment” trait that Turner diaries does for Nazis.

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Barricades are currently being installed in front of the White House. What's happening?
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1938782622257394124

>>2358928
There's no way the Dems are not gonna sabotage him, right?

>>2358931
Declaration of war upon the American people by its own government soon. There will be no further communication.

>>2358936
They’re just going to stand out of the way when Trump sends ICE to grab him and disappear him to El Salvador

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>>2358951
This man absolutely terrifies both Zionists and Hindu Nationalists in a time when that is exactly what we need in American politics.

>today on PBS:
<American Masters - Hannah Arendt: Facing Tyranny
>The Life and work of Hannah Arendt, often referred to as the most influential and provocative political thinker of the 20th century.

>>2358936
The Dems are currently begging Trump to deport him so they can feign being powerless while quickly replacing him with Cuomo.

>>2358906
Apartheid Defense League

>>2358931
It's probably just for 4th of July when Trump announces something insane again.

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American conservatism is based entirely around defending Zionist actions. There’s nothing more to it than that.

There is no secret based anti-Jewish or anti-zionist right-wing faction in American politics as we’ve recently seen. You can be transgender, gay, Indian, work for Soros, a felon, a pedophile, support all sorts of degeneracy and promote all sorts of globalist lassie faire economic policy that deliberately harms poor people as a conservative and you will be accepted into the fold, but the moment that you say you don’t support Israel or Jews 100% you get shunned and ostracized from other conservatives to the point they will demand you get deported, it’s completely unacceptable to call out Zionism as you see now with trump trying to primary massie.

Therefore conservatism is based around worshiping Jewish supremacy. Its anti-socialism is utilized solely to defend Zionist capitalists and Israel nothing more nothing less

>>2358931
Most likely nothing, but on the off chance it’s something I’m gonna guess a big show of force like arresting Gavin Newsom or deporting Zohran.

>>2358076
fascist country

Poltards are so dumb lol

I told him they'll never accomplish anything if don't organize or get leaders irl

>>2358973
why are you giving mossad agents and their nazi buddies advice

>>2358974
It was a thread I made showing them the ADL dosen't fear them at all and actually fears left wing people. They got really mad over it

>>2358963
Politically Zohran's presence only hurts Democrats. Trump is insane so he may deport him to appease Israel but if he knew what he was doing he'd instead signal boost him to make the Dems look worse. Trump already was smart enough to do this with Bernie in 2016 so…


>>2358976
Why would the ADL fear its own foot-soldiers?

>>2358980
Well, initially Zionists supported Hitler because he was an ally against the German Left…

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Leftists:
>force companies and university to divest from Israel
>push governments to cease military collaboration with Israel
>destroy military aid given to Israel
>unseat ziocucks in political elections
>normalize Israel hate among young people

The Far Right:
>generate AI pics of Auschwitz
>cheer on Zion Don while he bombs Iran for Israel and creates speech laws for Zionist

The nazi right has completely fallen apart in the face of neocon bullshit. It's utterly pathetic.

>>2358985
>push governments to cease military collaboration with Israel
Which governments have ceased military collaboration with Israel?
>unseat ziocucks in political elections
Which ziocucks have been unseated?

>>2358838
>terrorism
ok but blocking weapons shipments is way more important than shooting all the black people at tops supermarket because you can't breed

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>>2358872
I'm going to write the Nat Turner diaries

>>2358909
>They also recently declared Nazism "not an issue" when discussing antisemitism.
well that's because nazis support zionism
because they want jews deported to israel

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>>2358955
Terrify the capitalists
Terrify the landlords
Terrify the bankers
Terrify the zionists
Terrify the hindutva
Terrify the scientologists
Terrify the Mormons


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new ben


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>>2358995
Weak one. He should go back to his roots.

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>>2358997
his roots are actually cubism but nobody knows that

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>>2358998
Wow, you weren’t kidding. I kind of like them, they look a little bit like some kind of a mosaic one might expect to see in a subway station in the DDR.

>>2358995
holy fuck thats literally me


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>>2359003
hit me up when mamdani is deporting and bombing people. no it's biden and trump who are as "extreme" as a each other.

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>>2359003
>Mr. Trump beat the DSA to two of its goals: abolishing the U.S. Agency for International Development and Voice of America.

>>2359003
>William Daley
Aren't the Daleys known for being the de facto machine politicians of Chicago? Like it's akin to "Fred Capone" complaining that RICO laws are putting the Dems at risk.


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>be USA
>can print infinite USD
>used to flex “we have all the leverage”
>now begging China for “mutual respect” and rare earth magnets
>turns out America’s Achilles heel is rare earth magnets
>literally don’t have any
>magnets not just for EVs
>needed for wind turbines, hard drives, smartphones, speakers, headphones, mics
>also in MRIs, hearing aids, industrial machines, maglev trains, power tools, home appliances, car audio, safety systems, toys, gadgets, jewelry
>US Treasury Secretary now “confident” magnets will flow after deal with China
>China just slowed delivery to remind who’s boss
>so much for “all the leverage”

>>2358993
chile might elect an american type libertarian clone this year so this will be undone

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>>2359018
sounds like trump didn't have the cards


>>2359018
>sets fire
<puts fire out
"look, i de-escalated"

>>2359029
Zohran has me so scared i gotta go move to israel and join the IDF and kill children about it

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>>2359033
did you mean to post this in /isg/ (I know it's a ᴉuᴉlossnW quote, yea he's dumb)

>>2359035
>isg
oh shit i thought this was isg

>>2359033
>>2359035
It's the dumbest ass gotcha.
>You should brush your teeth everyday, because a clean mouth is important for health - Joseph Stalin
<Yeah! I agree with that quote! Brushing your teeth is important!
>HAhh! I got you, it's actually Adolph Hitler you fascist!

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>>2359037
Statecraft is just like brushing your teeth, you have to build concentration camps and give capitalists a lot of power, it's just human nature

>>2359047
Actual Stalin quote

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Palantir MUST collect ALL your personal data. Where it be your online footprint, your social media posts, your purchases, the websites you visit, or even your biometric data with government mandated chip implants.

You NEED to give ALL this data to Palantir in order to fight against Satan.

Otherwise, you are working with the Antichrist.

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>>2359033
>>2359047
But the quote itself was inoccuous and said nothing really.

>The X State organizes the nation, but it leaves the individual adequate elbow room. It has curtailed useless or harmful liberties while preserving those which are essential.


The quote says nothing. Its a description that would fit any possible kind of state.
>The state lets the people have their freedoms
<but not freedoms which are harmful

>>2359051
And what are these "useless" and "harmful" liberties exactly? Who decides them?

>>2359054
>it's another anarkiddie tries to argue himself out of bed time episode

>>2359054
>And what are these "useless" and "harmful" liberties exactly?
Diddling kids, driving without a license, extortion, fraud, invasion of privacy, stalking, harassment. There is a lot of them, do I really need to write a complete list?
>Who decides them?
The people or their representatives?

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BREAKING: BREAD >>2359057

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>>2358931
life fucking imitates art i swear the fuck to god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCP3LZoxABs


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