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>>2357589 >>2359127Age of consent in China: 14
Age of consent in Japan: 13
>>2359367Also the primary was split by a bunch of progressive candidates, with Lander (11% of the vote) having endorsed Mamdani and even done joint interviews with him. Had Cuomo stayed for the rankings, it's possible Mamdani would've beaten him by 10% or even 15% of the vote.
The major issue would be if the Republican drops out to endorse Cuomo, like happened with Walton, but the Republican is a schizo so that seems unlikely.
>>2359419To understand it you have to understand that older black people have an insane amount of generational trauma. They don't want to rock the boat or dare to hope for change that might upend the precarious peace they've achieved through consistently appeasing White America to make the lynchings stop.
I'm being kind of uncharitable here but these people don't want a revolution, they just want to live quietly. Their generational realization was that letting the corporate white collar types control government is preferable as at least those types are so preoccupied with the class war they'll leave black people alone. Historically when blue collar white people gain power in America it's immediately followed by racial violence. The MAGA movement and Tea Party shit basically reiterated this to the black community.
>>2359419Dont quote me on this but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the legacy of political machines, which were very prevalent among the Democrats in late 19th early 20th centuries. Particularly in the south, you had certain charismatic strongmen with populist overtones like Huey Long or E. H. Crump who would improve living conditions for the working class and especially certain groups of minorities in exchange for loyalty to the ticket. Crump even paid the poll taxes for those who were registered to vote Democrat. There was also Tammany Hall for the Irish in New York.
The funny thing is considering that they actually got progressive legislation passed by hook or by crook, the political machines of old would be vastly preferable to the utter mess that is the modern two party system because at least the machines could actually fulfill the promise of bread and circuses.
>>2359476Serious question, what is the goal of these protests in cities whose politicians all already oppose ICE publicly?
I mean sure, they're all lying, but they're just gonna blame the Federal government, and the Feds hate LA so they'll be happy to see the city burn. I'll also be happy to see it burn because LA fucking sucks, but the only way this doesn't fizzle is if they actually directly targeted ICE buildings and drew the ire of the glowies. Most likely what'll happen is a bunch of libs will go out there and have screaming therapy in the designated protest zone then they go home and get back to work. Unless a protest directly targets the people responsible it can't really succeed.
>>2359518People seeing the democrats as the stablishment and going against it by electing the "outsider" "antisystem"
They did a campaign to genuinly favor that antiestablishment sentiment and here we are
>>2359476Was already not doing anything that day, neat.
>>2359507I mean I've read some stuff on "anti-coup" tactics; which is how civilians have successfully resisted failed military putsches. One aspect they brought up was just total refusal to assist or interact with the troops: don't give them shelter, don't give them food, don't give them directions, etc.
I imagine the idea is you impose a big enough financial cost that the state has to retreat. Trump's already backing off deporting some fruit pickers after businesses complained. If more companies suffer some hits from loss of businesses or workers than there's mounting pressure to change course.
>>2359518two possible conclusions
>minorities realized trump really doesnt like them>americans are dumb and inconsistentor both, thats possible too
>>2359598Israel the concept of a Jewish settler state in the levant must be destroyed
Jews can remain after. South Africa isn't perfect but there were no mass anti white killings after apartheid ended
>>2359627The last real, non meme moment on this site was when we were mocking him, and every single person here hated his
guts.
>>2359518Telling people “things are bad and I will fix it for you personally” turns out to be a more compelling reason to vote for someone than:
>”Things are already great!”>”Things always sucked!”>”I’ll pass a 3% tax credit for investors living in dual-income households on special government created tranches that will fund infrastructure projects in communities in which minority owned businesses constitute 14% of the municipal GDP in order to spur economic growth and close the racial wealth gap.”Seriously it ain’t that fucking hard. Business Marketing figured out years ago that you don’t bore people with the technical details of the product you’re selling, you don’t sell a printer by telling people printers always sucked, or that they don’t need a printer.
>>2359419there are a few reasons that no one has posted yet but are the biggest factors.
blacks are disproportionately poor, and poor people vote disproportionately less. compared to other racial groups, black voters skew older than averagr, and more religious on average. older, more religious people are more likely to be conservative. because the GOP includes more tacitly & overtly racist groups in their party, vast majority of voting blacks vote democrat, but vote for more conservative candidates because black voters are, for above mentioned reasons, disproportionately conservative on issues besides race.
because of this, and the geographical basis of american state/national voting + the spread of blacks across the rural south, these older black conservative voters make up a crucial pillar of the conservstive establishment of the democratic party. so they are aggressively courted & the democratic party arranges patronage networks with them through NGOs & churches that further ensure turnout & loyalty. conveniently, conservative democrat establishment can then seperate this from its specific context and use the misleadingly presented fact of black support as a cudgel against progressive democrats. which works very well, because it works on the logic of "be humble and listen to x voiced!!!" that many progressive democrat voters themselves embrace and promote, leaving them in a tough spot of cognitive dissonance, because theyre too afraid to actually look for an answer to the question. it turns out its a pretty simple answer, so why are they afraid to look for an answer? my guess is that they are afraid to even look because they themselves widely assume that the answer is that its because blacks are dumb and gullible. besides that i imagine many just recognize that it looks bad to talk about and dont care about nuance, and theyre ultimately just populists with the flexible beliefs and principles that come with that.
those are the actual primary reasons for why, in raw demographic terms, blacks tend to pull democratic elections to the right.
>>2359453this is a very relevant secondary answer, and add to this that black voters are more likely to be precarious middle class & have a strong sense of defending their personal status (understandably or otherwise)
>>2359446yes, this kind of patronage politics is usually associated with "3rd world politics" and "corruption", which totally obfuscates that it is a major, decisive pivot of american electoral politics. a lot of anons here either uncritically adopt the individual beliefs view of voting sold to us, or else just go tinfoil and say its all simply rigged
>>2359639he was elected as the 45th president in 2016 with the support of bourgeoisie oligarchs and
their state-funded propaganda machine. His presidency has been marked by a return to protectionist trade policies,
>increased military spending, and efforts to weaken international institutions like the UN. >>2359627Trump probably is better on Palestine compared to the Democrats. It's not saying much but Trump at least finds the Palestine issue annoying enough to be willing to negotiate for an end. The Democrats would prolong it another 30 years to court Zionist votes.
If Harris was in charge we'd currently be in a war with Iran.
>>2359446>To understand it you have to understand that older black people have an insane amount of generational trauma … Historically when blue collar white people gain power in America it's immediately followed by racial violence. Yeah I think this plays a big role. People don't know how damn racist this country was, and how much of this there was when the boomers were kids. One event that barely anybody knows about, demonstrators at Texas Southern Universty (an HBCU in Houston… go Tigers) found themselves in the sights of hundreds of cops who attacked the college, began blindly shooting en masse into the dorms with suppressive fire (killing one of their own officers with ricochet), then storming the buildings and smashing up and vandalizing the place while mass arresting a solid percentage of the student body. I only know about this because I took an African-American history class taught by a professor who wrote a book on police violence in Houston, and I've met older left-wing activists with ties to the city who talked about hundreds of cops back in the day (like 1970s, 1980s) being KKK members.
Also violence between black kids and white redneck kids in high schools. (My dad called them "shitkickers" and basically said 80% of the white kids in his racially divided hometown were basically like those alt-righters at Charlottesville.) I heard Brian Becker, who was a young activist in the late 1960s, make an analogy to Apartheid South Africa.
>>2359453>Dont quote me on this but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the legacy of political machines, which were very prevalent among the Democrats in late 19th early 20th centuries.I wonder how it works in New York. Like what does Al Sharpton and the NAN and other black political machine figures in New York actually do? Must be something. One thing I remember striking me when visiting was the existence of public housing there. Is there a situation where older blacks already live in rent-stabilized or subsidized apartments? That's not the case for white millennials who make too much money too qualify while they're also being squeezed by rising rents and are desperate for it to stop.
>>2359628Zohran is a genocidal zionist he calls oct 7 terrorist attack. October 7th was anti-genocide counter-offensive.
>>2359657Wrong. The zionist entity is terrorist. You are zionist
>>2359633south africa sucks ass
palestine should go for the algeria model
>>2359642Y'know something else you learn from studying business marketing is that plenty of people are motivated by purely self-defeating pettiness, idiotic superstitions, and personal grievances. I remember seeing one example of a graphic designer discussing the nature of his work to a bunch of businessmen and they were insisting he get paid purely on an hourly-wage basis (as in, how many hours he worked on designing a logo) and he pointed out "Look, designing an iconic symbol isn't something that's necessarily measured in hours worked. The Nike logo is simple but iconic, if I told you I spent 40 hours making it would you believe me? If I told you I spend 30 minutes drawing it, I wouldn't get paid remotely close to the value I'm creating for you."
Well, one of the businessmen just kept reiterating "I want to pay you hourly because I want to make sure I'm getting the most value for my money" despite the dude telling them if he's paid hourly then he's incentivized to charge time that he isn't doing any work at all as labor.
I've talked about "The Left" from a marketing perspective, too, and its not dissimilar from the way those businessmen talked. We've got a great "product" here, but the people trying to sell it do it retardedly. You've got:
>"America MUST be destroyed!"Tauted by third worldists, RevCom, and other segments of the Left that basically completely undermines the goal of building a Left out here. Pitching yourself as "I want to burn your house down" doesn't make you friends.
>The Avant-Garde HippiesPretty straightforward, these are the types that are all "Man, under Socialism, we're gonna all live in these big collective hives. We're going to raise kids communally and become one with mother-earth. We'll get rid of gender and sexuality, maaaaaan."
There's still a general sense of "normalcy" and "weird" among people. Most folks aren't gonna watch The Holy Mountain and enjoy it. Less pie-in-the-sky flower-power horseshit, more building a direct line between peoples' lives NOW and what Socialism will do for them TOMORROW
>The Morality PoliceOther end of the spectrum, "under Socialism we'll ban porn, we'll ban drinking, we'll ban video games, we'll ban television. We will all be working 12 hour shifts in the steel factory and on our breaks we'll have a reading circle and discuss Marxist theory. The cultural revolution will destroy all copies of Star Wars and Marvel in existence."
The fact is most people want to work their shift, go home, maybe have a pint of beer or play some video games or both. The type of personality that's intrigued by the idea of putting someone on pedestal with a giant dunce cap that says "REACTIONARY" on it are anti-social freaks more or less just interested in kill-peopleism.
>>2359703You don't understand what I'm going for. DSA as an organization is trying to create this big tent progressive front as you say, but in the end they just end up attracting people who aren't super passionate about anything outside of their singular pet issue and are happy to stab the organization in the back whenever it benefits them personally. Social misfits. You can't go to a DSA meeting without it devolving into arguing over very minor organizational details like which local artist friend should get the commission to paint a mural, and people get very passionate about defending their very specific priorities at the expense of someone else's.
Of course this is something inherent to all organizations but the Left is really undisciplined in America. If you try to argue for a general strike you'll get told "well I can't participate for this or that or whatever reason" by half your members as their personal priorities are more important than the priorities of the collective. God forbid you ask for them to do something bordering on illegal like sabotaging a weapons factory.
Being a social misfit doesn't mean you're a rebel "anarchist" type. I meant it more as in, these people have poor personalities for fitting into a collective and aren't someone you wanna be next to in the trenches against Capitalism. They're weak-willed, selfish, emotionally vulnerable, impulsive, easily corruptible, etc. Ever since the Black Panthers there's never been a true American Leftist org with any level of discipline in its members.
>>2359772I didn’t say black people don’t matter. I just said that there is no point in talking about non voting blacks since they aren’t radical or part of any organization, they simply just don’t participate cuz it doesn’t interest them like how some people I just not into rock music.
>>2359781Hispanic* also wrong. America is the least unionized nation and still falling including unionized blacks.
>>2359912I think there's an underlying libertarian personality in American culture; not in the sense of "political libertarianism" so much as "can you leave me the fuck alone?" Like I've joked that anyone who buys a lifted truck should have the size of their dicklet prominently displayed on their car, but that's just a joke.
>>2359696I don't see the modern DSA as all that "weird", at least compared to some other orgs. But for sure we've got an issue with a lot of people who join socialist orgs in part because they're just bizarre antisocial types.
>>2359518people like the archetype of the "outsider". someone who isnt in with the swamp or the establishment. now you say, but trump isnt an ousider, doesn't matter. he marketed himself as one.
people despise the establishment gop and dnc. people hate nancy pelosi, chuck schumuer, guys like that. not only do they want fresh young people they want people from the outside, who cant be bought off, who bring new ideas, who acknowledge shit sucks.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/michael-hudson-the-u-s-empires-plan-for-global-domination.htmlMichael Hudson: The U.S. Empire’s Plan for Global Domination
>Yves here. Get a cup of coffee. Below is another meaty discussion with Michael Hudson by Ben Norton, using the US-Israel war with Iran as a point of departure for the role of the Middle East in US hegemony.
>As much as there is a great deal of terrific material in this talk, I have to continue to disagree with Hudson on the nature of the US dollar recycling understandings with Saudi Arabia during the oil shock of the 1970s. That framework was set not by Bill Simon of Treasury, but by Henry Kissinger and the State Department in negotiations with the Saudis, importantly its powerful oil minister Saud Al Faisal. Key documents, including detailed notes of important meetings, have been declassified and are on the State Department website. They make clear that the US Treasury was a secondary actor in these arrangements (for instance, they seldom participated in the talks by Kissinger and State with Saud Al Faisal and other top Saudi officials).
>And Kissinger and his team framed their concern as how to “recycle” the dollar that the Saudis were piling up. The reason for the effort to persuade the Saudis to concentrate their buying in Treasuries was to forestall them from instead hoovering up US productive assets: interests in public and private companies, commercial real estate, farmland, banks (see Prince Al Waleed’s early 1990s rescue of the critically important Citibank, which plays a critical role as the US financial flagship serving payment needs for US multinationals and smaller exporters). Getting control of productive assets on a large scale would vest tremendous political power with the sheikdom.
>I reject the thesis that the Saudis had much in the way of alternatives in the 1970s to reinvesting their dollars much of anywhere beyond the US (they did, as I have recounted, impressively bid up prime real estate in London, buying huge swathes of tony Mayfair). The US was the dominant global economy and even with the oil shock, had strong growth prospects. The US financial markets were the deepest, the most liquid, and the best regulated. US disclosures and investor protections like prohibitions against front-running and bid-rigging exceeded those of any other market at the time. There was no Euro back then, so the alternative would have been to invest in much smaller national markets like the UK or Germany, which has much less in the way of easily traded investments. As of 1984, when I was on a study for the world’s biggest foreign exchange trading desk, Citibank in London, the big currency “crosses” were against the dollar.
>The US as the standout player in providing a safe regime for investors continued until easily the early 1990s, see Amar Bhide (who is regularly a contrary thinker and no naif; among other things, he ones ran a proprietary trading operation) in the Harvard Business Review in 1994 for confirmation.
>The development of exchange-based markets for oil futures, starting in 1983 helped further cement the role of the dollar in the oil trade (keep in mind commodities traders like Philips Brothers, which acquired Salomon Brother but was then subject to a reverse takeover had been arranging private hedges before then).
>Even though the 1970s negotiations with the Saudis did secure their agreement to keep their dollar holdings significantly in Treasuries, the continued role of the dollar as reserve currency depends on the US running sustained trade deficits, and not the oil trade. The big disproof of the petrodollar thesis is the very aggressive accumulation of large foreign exchange balances by China and Southeast Asian countries in the wake of the 1997 Asian crisis. These countries ex China had been subjected to the tender ministrations of the IMF and did not want that to happen again. So their manipulated their currencies to be comparatively cheap against the dollar so as to run sustained trade surpluses and accumulate a rainy day dollar assets horde. That would enable them to intervene in a big way if they were ever again at risk of a currency crisis. This course of action clearly had nothing to do with the oil trade. Ditto Japan’s accumulation of large Treasury holdings during its 1980s period of manufacturing dominance and large trade surpluses with the US. >>2360076I guess and vowel sounds too. Too my limited knowledge of Japanese, they just eliminate the u sound in the su syllable in words. But if you asked them what are the syllables in this word, they'd tell you the u sound is there.
>Sasuke<Sa-su-keBut when they say it:
>Sauce-kayBe honest, there was no u sound in there at all. But people are unaware even of the sounds they are dropping because they know what they are saying is intelligible.
>>2360133you're engaging in the exact same kind of playground bullying though
>hurr people who disagree with me are incelsif this is the level of discourse being encouraged obviously rightoids are going to call us cucks, or that we're socialists because we're resentful/jealous or whatever. don't act surprised by this. it's all totally idiotic and I wish people would just plainly discuss what their biases are and what they want, instead of doing all this gay psychologizing bs.
>>2360133Like
>>2360138Said. A woman taking her husbands last name isn’t something that exists in all cultures. Particularly in Hispanic culture the wife keeps her last name and the children take on the fathers last name. I noticed myself how odd that is for cracker euroids and black folks in America. The women just take their husbands name which honestly weird.
>>2360173youre absolutely right, its pathetic all the way down. is there really anything that needs to be said about slandering someone for the fact their wife didnt want to take their name? there isnt. it doesnt need to be mentioned. at least the liberal instinct is sometimes to go "theyre enough of a man theyre not threatened by that!" which is also stupid but at the very least its trying to rhetorically build up your own side instead of pure shitflinging.
but it doesnt need to be brought up at all. one of the best things /leftypol/ ever did was quarantine "influencer" garbage to a specific slop thread
>>2360159Phonetics isn't actively taught in all school systems. Many use the Whole Language Approach instead.
https://dotandlinelearning.com/blog/phonics/phonics-vs-whole-language-approach-which-is-better/>>2360175[x] is a cult
Hate this trend of people calling everything they don't like a cult. "Cults" are just small social groups the big groups don't like. Social groups and institutions of all sizes have many methods of controlling their members.
The Militarily has been working on making their members unquestionably obey orders throughout all of human history. It is not some strange scary cult because they are just doing what they always have done. Liberals are just now realizing they might be next on the hit list and want the soldiers to suddenly stop being soldiers when it comes to them.
>>2360200>lasagna man>>2360200“Black” anger shakes the rotten pillars of bourgeois and democratic “civilization” - Bordiga, 1965
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Once the outburst of the “black revolt” in California2 had passed, international conformism buried the “embarrassing” event under a thick cloak of silence! While the “enlightened” bourgeois was still anxiously seeking to discover the “mysterious” causes that had hindered the operation of the “regular and peaceful” mechanisms of democracy, any observer on either side of the Atlantic could be consoled by recalling that, after all, explosions of collective violence by “colored people” are nothing new in America and that, for example, an equally serious explosion occurred in Detroit in 1943, without any significant follow-up3 .
But something profoundly new emerged from this burning episode of anger, not vaguely popular but proletarian in nature, something to be followed not with a cold objectivity but with passion and hope. And it is this that makes us say: the black revolt was crushed; long live the black revolt!
The novelty – in the history of the struggles for emancipation of black proletarians and sub-proletarians, and not for the history of class struggles in general – is the almost perfect coincidence between the pompous rhetoric of the presidential promulgation of political and civic rights4 , and the eruption of an anonymous, subversive, collective and “uncivil” fury on the part of the “beneficiaries” of the “magnanimous” gesture; between the umpteenth attempt to entice the tortured slave with a miserable carrot that costs nothing, and the instinctive and immediate refusal of this slave to remain blindfolded, bent and cowering.
Harshly, instructed by no one – not by their leaders, more Gandhian than Gandhi, nor by a “communism” in the mode of the USSR, which, as L’Unità5 hurried to say, rejects and condemns violence – but educated by the hard lessons of the facts of social life, blacks in California have shouted out to the world, without having the theoretical consciousness, without needing to express it in a well-developed language, but by claiming in the thick of the action the simple and terrible truth that legal and political equality is nothing as long as there is economic inequality, and that it is possible to end it, not by laws, decrees, sermons or homilies, but only by overthrowing by force the foundations of a society divided into classes. It is this sudden tearing away of the veil of legal fictions and democratic hypocrisy, which has baffled and can only confuse the bourgeois. It is this which has focused the enthusiasm of real Marxists, and it is this which needs to capture the imaginations of proletarians asleep in the artificial cocoons of the metropolises of a capitalism historically born under a white skin.
When the American North, already on the rails to full capitalism, launched a crusade for the abolition of slavery prevailing in the South, it did not do so for humanitarian reasons, or out of respect for the eternal principles of 1789, but because it was necessary to uproot a pre-capitalist patriarchal economy and to “liberate” the work force so that it would become a huge resource for the greedy capitalist monster. Thus, before the Civil War, the North encouraged the flight of slaves from the Southern plantations. It was enticed by a workforce which would be for sale dirt cheap in the labour market, and, in addition to this direct benefit, would enable it to reduce the pay of the workforce already employed, or at least to stop it increasing. During and after the war the process was rapidly accelerated, becoming generalised.
It was a historically necessary transition to overcome the limits of an ultra-backward economy, and Marxism saluted this, without forgetting that “liberated” in the South, a black workforce would find in the North a mechanism of exploitation already in place, and even more ferocious in certain aspects. In the words of Capital, the “good Negro” would be free to deliver their skin to the labour market for it to be tanned. Freed from the chains of Southern slavery, but also the protective shield of an economy and a society based on personal and human relationships, instead of impersonal and inhuman relations6 , free, that is to say alone, naked and unarmed.
And in reality the slave who escaped to the North would come to realise that, no less than before, he was in an inferior position, because he was paid less, because he was deprived of professional qualifications, because he was isolated in new ghettos as a soldier of an industrial reserve army and as a potential threat of disintegration of the connective tissue of private ownership, because discriminated against and subjected to segregation as one who must not feel like a human being but a beast of burden, and as such to sell himself to the first bidder without demanding more nor better.
Today, a century after his alleged “emancipation”, he is granted the “plenitude” of civil rights by the same act whereas his average income is dramatically lower than that of his white fellow citizen. His wages are half that of his brother with white skin, the pay of his female partner is one third of the partner of the latter. In the very act in which the golden metropoles of business confined him in appalling ghettos of misery, disease, insecurity, isolating him behind invisible walls of prejudice and police regulations, in the very act in which unemployment which bourgeois hypocrisy calls “technological” (that is to say it is an “inevitable” price to pay to advance on the path of progress, not the fault of present society), has its most numerous victims among his brothers in race, because they are in the ranks of unskilled workers or sub-proletarians consigned to the most arduous and unpleasant jobs, in the very act where he is the equal on the battlefield to his white brothers to be turned into cannon fodder, it is not at all the same when he comes up against the policeman, the judge, the tax officer, the owner of the factory, the union honcho, the owner of his slum dwelling.
And it is also undeniable – and incomprehensible for twisted minds – that his revolt broke out in California where the average wage for blacks is higher than in the east. But it is precisely in this region of capitalist boom and so-called “affluence” that the disparity of incomes is the greatest. This is where the ghetto, already long enclosed along the Atlantic coast, becomes quickly surrounded by the presence of an obscene display of luxury, waste, of the good life of the ruling class – which is white!
It is against this hypocrisy of egalitarianism Jesuitically enshrined in law, but denied in the reality of a society with deeply dug class trenches, that black anger exploded, in the same fashion that anger explodes among white proletarians, drawn into and heaped up in the new industrial centres of advanced capitalism, crowded into shantytowns, in the monotonous slums, in the hovels of the very Christian bourgeois society where they are “free” to sell their labour power so as … not to starve. In the same way that the holy fury of the dominated classes always explodes and, as if that were not enough, they are scorned and maligned as well!
“‘Premeditated Revolt’ against the rule of law, the rights of our neighbours and the maintenance of order!” exclaimed McIntyre7 , the Cardinal of our Holy Mother the Church, as if the new slave-without ankle-chains had a motive to respect a law that keeps his head down and his knees bent, or that this white “neighbour” has always had “rights”, or that he could see in this society based on the triple lie of liberty, equality, fraternity, something other than disorder raised to the level of a principle.
“Rights are not conquered by violence” shouted President Johnson8 . A lie. Blacks remember, if only from having heard that whites had to wage a long war to conquer the rights denied them by the British metropole. They know that blacks and whites, temporarily united, had to carry out an even longer war to obtain even the appearance of an “emancipation”, still impalpable and remote. They see and feel every day chauvinist rhetoric exalting the extermination of the Red Indians, the march of the “Founding Fathers” to new lands and “rights” and the brutal violence of the Western pioneers, “redeemed” to the civilization of the Bible and Alcohol. What is all this if not violence?
Inchoately, blacks have understood that there is no problem in American history, as in the history of all countries, that has not been resolved by force, that there is no right that it is not the result of often bloody, always violent clashes between the forces of the past and those of the future.
One hundred years of peaceful waiting for the magnanimous concessions of the whites, what have they brought them, except the little that the occasional explosion of anger has been able to snatch, even with fear, from the miserly and cowardly hand of the master? And how did Governor Brown9 , defender of the rights that the whites felt were threatened by the “revolt”, respond, if not by the democratic violence of machine guns, truncheons, armoured cars and a state of siege?
And so, what is this, if not the experience of oppressed classes under every sky, whatever the colour of their skin and their “racial” origin? The black, no matter if he is a pure proletarian or sub-proletarian, who shouted in Los Angeles: “Our war is here, not in Vietnam”, has expressed an idea no different from that of the men who “stormed the heavens” during the Paris Commune and that of the Petrograd gravediggers of the myths of order, the national interest, civilizing wars, and who finally herald a human civilization.
The bourgeois cannot console themselves by thinking: these are distant episodes that do not concern us, there is no racial question here. The racial question is now, more and more obviously, a social question.
The fact that the ragged unemployed and semi-unemployed in our Italian South no longer find the safety valve of emigration, the fact that they cannot travel beyond the sacred frontiers of the motherland to be skinned alive (and get slaughtered in disasters due not to fate, unexpected vagaries of the atmosphere or, who knows, the evil eye, but the thirst for profit of Capital, its frantic search for savings on the costs of materials, means of transport, safety devices, and perhaps for future gains in the reconstruction following disasters which are inevitable and anything but unpredictable even when they are hypocritically deplored), the fact that the slums of our industrial cities and our moral capitals (!!) are swarming, and will be even more than is the case today, with outcasts without work, without bread, without-reserves, means that you have an Italian “racism”, already visible today in the recriminations of the inhabitants of Northern Italy against the “primitive” and “uncultured” Southerners.
It is the social structure which we are condemned to live under today that gives rise to such infamies. It is under its ruins that they will disappear.
This is what the “black revolt” in California – not distant nor exotic, but happening right here in our midst – presents, as a warning and reminder, to those who, drugged by the democratic and reformist opium, and who doze without memory in the illusory dream of affluence. The revolt is immature and defeated, but is a harbinger of victory!
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From Il programma comunista, n° 10, August 1965 (unsigned article by Bordiga). The original Italian version can be found on the site of the group “Programma comunista”:
https://www.internationalcommunistparty.org/index.php/it/326-il-programma-comunista-1960-1970/il-programma-comunista-1965/2782-la-collera-negra-ha-fatto-tremare-i-fradici-pilastri-della-civilta-borghese-e-democratica The French version was published in Le prolétaire, n° 515, 2015:
https://www.marxists.org/francais/bordiga/works/1965/08/bordiga_196508_watts.htm 2
This text relates to the Watts Rebellion, which took place from 11 to 16 August 1965, in South Los Angeles.
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Over the summer of 1943, race riots against black workers broke out in Detroit, Los Angeles, Mobile and Beaumont, most of the time over the question of jobs, related to internal immigration of black workers coming to “support the war effort”. In Detroit there was a general confrontation between groups of whites and blacks along the Belle Isle bridge. The riot spread across the city. Sailors attacked the blacks. Out of 34 people killed by the police, 24 were black. Another important race riot in 1943 happened in Harlem, in August. On the first of that month a black soldier intervened when a white cop tried to arrest a black man. Shots were exchanged and the soldier was injured. A rumour spread that the soldier was dead. The riot began. Rioters looted shops, smashed windows and fought with the police. On 2 August, the Republican mayor Fiorello La Guardia called on the US Army to intervene and impose a curfew. The Los Angeles riot in June 1943 is less well known. It was between white soldiers on leave and bands of young Mexicans and American blacks (and other ethnic groups too), belonging to the rebel subculture of wearing “Zoot suits”. The riots were sparked off by the aggressive actions of a group of racist sailors.
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The Civil Rights Act of 1964 declared discrimination based on race, colour, religion, sex or origin illegal. Following this was the Voting Rights Act, forbidding “racial discrimination in the exercise of the right to vote”. The text was adopted on 4 August 1965 by the US Congress and signed on 6 August by President Lyndon B. Johnson.
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Organ of the Italian Stalinists, edited at the time by Luigi Longo, who followed the line of Palmiro Togliatti (disciple of Antonio Gramsci), that of the “Italian road to socialism”.
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This assertion by Bordiga about the supposedly “more personal and human” “social relations” in the slave-owning South is an abusive interpretation of Marxism, considered as the theory of the obligatory passage from an “inferior” phase, less alienated and “softer”, to a “superior” phase of the exploitation of man by man, the culmination of capitalist alienation. As the historian David Davis says: “Yet we must never forget that these same “welfare capitalist” plantations in the Deep South were essentially ruled by terror. Even the most kindly and humane masters knew that only the threat of violence could force gangs of field hands to work from dawn to dusk ‘with the discipline’, as one contemporary observer put it, ‘of a regular trained army’. Frequent public floggings reminded every slave of the penalty for inefficient labor, disorderly conduct, or refusal to accept the authority of a superior.” (David Brion Davis, Inhuman Bondage: The Rise and Fall of Slavery in the New World, 2006). If you want to compare the situation of the black worker, a slave before the Civil War, then after his supposed “emancipation”, “freely” selling his labour power to the capitalists, the image from Greek mythology of “going from Charybdis to Scylla” would be more exact. From the slave plantation to the modern industrial Gulag, with ultraliberal or state capitalist sauce, there is one “invariance”: the total dehumanisation and depersonalisation of the exploited, the savagery of exploitation under the whip of overseers in the South idealised by Margaret Mitchell (Gone with the wind), the bullets of the bosses’ militia, and the Pinkerton agents in the Yankee North.
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Cardinal James Francis Aloysius McIntyre (1886-1979), of Irish descent, he was the son of member of the mounted police of New York. Named Cardinal in 1953 by Pius XII, hostile to Communism and also to priests who supported the Civil Rights Movement, he described the rioters as “inhuman, almost beasts” and supported the racist Chief of Police of Los Angeles, William H. Parker (1905-1966). The state’s ferocious repression caused the deaths of 34 Black Americans, slain by the bullets of the Los Angeles police (LAPD) and the National Guard.
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Democrat Lyndon Johnson was the President at the time, having gained this position after the Kennedy assassination, when he was Vice President. His “Great Society” program included recognition of Civil Rights for blacks, the “war against poverty”, the institution of social measures in the health sector such as Medicare for the elderly and Medicaid for the poor etc. It was on his watch that US involvement in the Vietnam War, begun under Kennedy, really intensified. During the hot summer of 1967, characterised by black insurrections much more important than those of 1965, from Atlanta, Buffalo to Detroit, Johnson called out the army: “We will not tolerate lawlessness”, he declared and 43 people lost their lives, 1,189 were injured and 7,000 were arrested. In Detroit, a workers’ city, white proletarians also participated in the insurrection.
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Pat Brown (1905-1996), Democrat Governor of California from 1959 to 1967, called out 3,900 National Guards to put down the black insurrection. He was also the father of Jerry Brown, who has since been the Governor of California twice.
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>>2360218>do you purposely ignore the many posts & opinions that describe how black people are active participants in the middle class?Nah see I recognized that, but I've also been actively told for years I'm petite-bourgeoisie/a labor aristocrat not because of my actual class position but because a bunch of third worldists read too much Sakai.
I'm enjoying the irony of it all. That's all.
>>2360258>I'm a capitalist>I believe in profitit's funny to me that in burgerland capitalism isn't just the class position of someone who acts as a capitalist (which this guy does obviously) but it's also
believing in capitalismburgers have turned capitalist into an ideological label, and not just a class position. same with communist.
in china you're not a communist unless you're in the party. even if you're a patriotic chinese citizen that doesn't make you a communist. you have to be in the party. In most countries you're not a capitalist unless you actually hire and exploit latbor
But in burgerland it's vibes based. I've seen plenty of guys in burger land who have never owned a business or hired another person, but they'll say "I'm a capitalist" because they
believe capitalism is a good system. That's interesting to me.
>>2360282>gay people😍
>immigrants😍
>people of color😍
>drag queens😍
>>2360285>>2360287ok chud
>>2360282not that this needed to be said, since it's pretty obvious, but this would be impossible to carry out in practice because everyone is jumbled up and even down to the individual family or household you'll have a mixture of chvds and libs. but even if it weren't all jumbled up the land has no symmetry. force would decide who gets the useless land and who gets the useful land.
who gets the military bases? who gets the ports? who gets the nukes? who gets the power plants? who gets the prisons (and all the free labor inside of it)? who gets the schools?
and what's to stop chvd land from immediately invading lib land? Wouldn't it be incredibly convenient to have all the libs, POC, immigrants, queers etc. rounded up in one nice spot? Lib land would just become a concentration camp for non-chuds.
i'm aware libs are reactionary I'm just buying into the framing of the tweet to imagine how that would actually play out in practice >>2360315Feudal Europe had far less immigration than modern capitalist nations. And yes, Europe and America's economy was largely made by invading the world, taking resources and enslaving people but that's just them juicing their local economy at the world expense.
But my main point is that immigration isn't the only source of economic growth. Improvements in agricultural technology and industrialization was historically the biggest factor.
And after all what happens when the world economy has been fully integrated by socialism? There would no longer be immigrants. Are aliens from Alpha Centauri supposed to immigrate here to fuel growth? At that point technological growth will be the main fuel, not just randomly moving people around the world.
>>2360339>The system fail without migrant.The current American system would "fail" but a new system would emerge. Probably end up a backwards Rhodesia with nukes ready to launch
>>2360348It's less than two weeks old.
>>2360387ai slop > zio wall of text
rare ai win
>>2360060THATS FUCKING DISGUSTING
these peopel are sick what the fuck
>>2360114I understood most/all when they were talking to the cameraman casually, but I had to keep replaying the interaction at the door at the start and still can't get the first line, only "my bad, ah shit, are we cool?", "yeah alright". That said, I have minor general hearing issues.
Speaking of accents of English, I can't decipher a thick Glaswegian one but I can understand vidrel just fine, and I generally get UK&Ireland accents, even scouse (Liverpool) I can get most of in real-time. What are some of the harder burger accents to understand?
>>2360258>work that no one wants to doporky detected
translation: labor that i don't want to pay higher for
>>2360465Nobody wants to build houses for a developer. That's why it only happens when the developer pays people who are desperate for money to afford basic needs.
I'd want to help build commieblocks if they were for public benefit, but that's different.
>>2360460Everyone on earth should have the same last name. Now there no need to change anything when you get married. Problem solved.
>>2360474How popular is skateboarding over the age of 16? It can't be that big.
>>2360490Not burger, literally saw about 6 today, just need to know where they hang out. One of them has a video camera and everything.
>non-functional last nameBrilliant!
the traditions of the dead weigh like a nightmare>>2360499lol
>>2360165SOMEONE
but obviously not me, my life is too comfortable and I enjoy my treats DO SOMETHING!!!
>>2360580What fallacy? The function of surnames can be replaced by identity numbers that all countries give to their citizens.
In fact most people didn't even have surnames for thousands of years.
https://www.ancientpages.com/2016/02/23/use-surnames-started-middle-ages-england/The idea that last names are somehow part of your personal identity is new and can be tossed into the garbage heap of history.
>>2360602Seriously though, the more unique a name is, the more effective it is, and so the main function of a surname, and middle names, is to differentiate people who had the same first name. People fucking
suck at naming things, just look at any colony's town names. Little-to-no originality. Hence, two names, then three names, etc
So, giving everyone the
same surname is non-functional. Just don't give them a surname!
For viewers at home, the fallacy was conflating the non-functionality of a single universal last name with the functionality of people with shared last names, or even shared full names. A person can be functional even if part of their name is non-functional.If people were better with numbers, it would be perfect for a unique identifier so you're not wrong, but people in general tend to be better at remembering words than numbers.
>>2360611Most first world countries have identity numbers. America has Social Security numbers, UK has National Insurance number, Ireland has a Personal Public Service number. Netherlands has a Citizen Service number. The list goes on.
>>2360612What you are saying make sense.
But if you need several names to differentiate yourself then maybe people's first names need to be more unique. Nicknames that can become your name could be a part of that.
And there is still no real reason to have family based surnames. If all you need is a surname to help differentiate you from other people with the same first and middle name then it can be randomly assigned at birth and be just as functional.
>>2360635>But if you need several names to differentiate yourself then maybe people's first names need to be more unique. Nicknames that can become your name could be a part of that. I absolutely agree. Last names and middle names are (and I mean this in the literal neutral sense) a coping mechanism for people being shit with first names, and that cope scales poorly when we have populations of millions and billions.
Birthday paradox applies here, just replace birthdays with unique names.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem >>2360693not exactly that much risk of a republican winning in NY
though I wonder if some billionaire will run some vanity third party campaign with support of zionists
>>2360669It's not a trope when Israel is actually taking American money and causing financial woes.
>>2360683Why are you posting here instead of doing something about it?
>>2360699Houdini Party is a terrible name, it's far too early in the game to be talking about a party-like organization emerging, the magazine is has barely gotten started. we don't haven have writers with monthly columns. motherfucker how can I possibly think about shit like this when I'm like literal fucking bum. boss you should message one of the breadtubers to get them to do that, they have the resources I never will
>>2360700im asking every single motherfucker I know in this city if they can help a motherfucker
>>2360696Oldie but a goodie.
>>2360655>”Think of the poor loan sharks!”Goddamn this guy is a pussy. I played Yakuza 0 and all it taught me is that being Yakuza means doing lots of Karaoke, helping politicians develop tax codes, and basically just doing odd jobs around the city while doing self-defense against salarymen.
>>2360669I noticed lots of customers put away the MAGA hats at my store when we used to see way more. Only exceptions have been one guy wearing a shirt with the American and Israeli flags merging and another guy in an IDF shirt.
Unironically I think Israel, at least among the base of each respective party, is more isolated than ever.
>>2360702Have you tried panhandling?
>>2360703>all it taught me is that being Yakuza means doing lots of Karaoke, helping politicians develop tax codes, and basically just doing odd jobs around the city while doing self-defense against salarymen.That's pretty funny. Is this how Japan shows Yakuza in thier video games? The few movies I've seen with Yakuza tended to be serious dramas or at least showed their seedy side.
>>2360714I mean it’s got some genuine serious and emotional moments, but you also have stuff that just makes it so fucking wacky.
Like you run into a fucking 7’3” dude called “Mr Shakedown” who beats up random people to steal their money, you walk around a city where every fucking salaryman, gangster, or street punk just picks fights with you. One sidequest had you help an introvert come out of her shell by becoming a dominatrix. The main character seems upset by the prospect of having to kill anyone, but I just non-lethally smashed a dude’s head clean through a urinal and threw him off a 4 story building.
It’s great.
>>2360735maybe it was somethign about not watching live streamers then idr
>>2360738not nearly as cute as one though
>>2360742yeah im based in florida now, it's significantly better for organizing here than it was in san antonio, like we are really making actionable things happen. i helped organize a july 4th event wherein all the venue profits are going to the palestinian red crescent society + a local immigration org.
aside from my lack of AFFORDABLE HOUSING and WORK things are significantly better. keeping it a buck I was hdmi cord tied to the doorknob smoking cigs inside the black mold ahh apartment when I was living in san antonio
i knew a few people here who run a venue so I moved here, I had some friends in seattle too but florida seems more friction based, the contradictions are tighter here. im trying to run an underground culture magazine with an anarcho-communist editorial bent with the goal of radicalizing the counter culture and educating people who are young, broke as fuck about the real shit. the venue is infinite articles, i have a piece about capitalism's death culture using a noise show (pic related) as the backdrop coming out in July's issue.
>>2360756>>2360760 (me)
Oh by the way I checked out the zines section of your website a few weeks ago and had a friend print a bunch of them for handing out at protests. You do good work man.
>>2360763thats based as hell dude, the zine selection needs some work, i'm planning on doing a big batch upload of them really soon, trying to convert more of the site to that format. I want to get bands to push the zines at their shows, which if scaled could create the fucking ho chi minh trail for underground publications. a functional, loosely federated national sneakernet is something that should be easier than ever with the internet, and would give us some serious power to push agitprop, that's the dream at least.
peep this one, i did it up yesterday.
Matter of fact, this is something that anyone can help add to. This is the spreadsheet I use for the backend.
https://erikhoudini.com/zine_rack/new_zines.csv
cover images are 256 x 384
you can use this for the dithering
https://doodad.dev/dither-me-this/if someone wants to add a few zines, and send me the images, to upload, bam, we making motion.
>>2360727>In Oregon, an Iranian man was detained by immigration agents this past week while driving to the gym. >The man, identified in court filings as S.F., has lived in the U.S. for over 20 years, and his wife and two children are U.S. citizens.S.F. applied for asylum in the U.S. in the early 2000s, but his application was denied in 2002. His appeal failed but the government did not deport him and he continued to live in the country for decades, according to court documents.
S.F.’s long residency in the U.S., his conversion to Christianity and the fact that his wife and children are U.S. citizens “sharply increase the possibility of his imprisonment in Iran, or torture or execution,” he said.
>>2360786>>2360778Oh and it gets even better, the GOP reconciliation bill that they're trying to pass? It includes a provision for ICE to be funded to the tune of 45 BILLION dollars for detention (more than ten times what they previously had), 14.4 billion for prisoner transportation and removal, 8 billion for hiring and retention, and billions more for other shit. This is more amount of money than the entire federal Bureau of Prisons is given, and enough money to have more officers than the entirety of the FBI.
So basically, expect even more crazy shit like this in the future when ICE's budget becomes more than most countries' militaries. And remember ICE will also target you just for providing "rhetorical support" to illegal immigrants, so chances are some of us could end up in the alligator pit.
>>2360791I know libs talk incessantly about how dumb Trump is (the ultimate sin to the credentialist class) but it *is* notable how much of a retard he is. Bush was lazy and kind of played up the folksy hick vibe, but Trump is genuinely an idiot.
According to his advisors he explicitly refused to read NatSec briefings and instead they had to type up single page summaries using extremely simple language, the example I heard was something like:
>”ISIS are bad guys who really want to BEAT us, if we don’t bomb them, everyone will think we’re LOSERS and make fun of us. But if we bomb this training facility they’ll be too scared to do any attacks on our troops, and we’ll WIN!” >>2360811The good news is that the evil of the American government is matched only by its sheer arrogance and stupidity like
>>2360806 goes into. They are utterly detached from reality and fully believe in their own hype, and with liberal media constantly playing devil's advocate for them like pic related their egos are only inflated even further. While this makes them dangerous it paradoxically makes them a lot easier for us to overthrow them since they'll be more prone to making mistakes as they're fully convinced of their impending godhood.
Shit's going to be scary and absolutely awful for a lot of people, but crisis breeds opportunity and the revolutionary left will evolve and adapt into a more formidable force in the process. We can do this folks.
>>2360853>still weeping over a jokelol, is this Iron Felix’s alt or just one of his cock garblers?
>>2360852Oh probably; some close family friends (who are Jewish) are freaking out about the Israel stuff too.
>>2360857>lol, is this Iron Felix’s alt or just one of his cock garblers?I don't a fuck about that cum poster.
I rarely interact with anything of his posts, still, you are not a communist. you don't joke about snitching people desperate enough threatening the state of things with violence even if it's online or if it is a fed baiting. I know why you did it, and it's precisely of what this video says:
>>2360848It encapsulates very well what you are, and why you don't take with care your words when engaging with people presenting real threats online, and rather sneaking in the possibility of snitching a comrade with this thought. Or now, you will say that there is no possibility or whatsoever that communists in America in the time being don't want to engage in violent acts against the state? If you think so, again, the video describes you.
>>2360857I saw an Israel flag up behind the bar in a Mexican restaurant out in this town in chud Texas where I go, and I know people who live around there who wear MAGA merch. But I think that restaurant owner is just in it for the love of the game.
Oh, now that I remember, I also saw a Pride flag flying in front of a construction materials manufacturer in Erath County (which Trump won with more than 80% of the vote). That was different. Normally I get annoyed like everybody else here about corporations doing the Pride month thing but I'll let this one go.
>>2360887>>2360895communism isnt some humanitarian cause. if
>>2360886 is some petit bourgeois who can easily flee the country then they should, fuck them
>>2360866>Nooo! You can’t joke about hiring someone to follow around the psychotic small business owner ranting about all the leftists he’s gonna kill! That’s uncalled for!I owe literally less than nothing to that loser. He’s not “desperate enough to threaten the state of things” he’s just some dude with undiagnosed psychopathy. As for the lardass in the video, it looks like the only protracted people’s war he’s waging is on his belt; I’m not gonna pretend to respect a guy just because he’s being an asshole. Lick my balls.
>>2360872Have corpos even been doing pride this year? Also the only other Israeli flag I’ve seen has been by this Baptist church. I’d thought about snagging it late one night but the place is just a few doors down from an Islamic Center, and I wouldn’t want those folks to get the blowback for it.
>>2360919>he’s just some dude with undiagnosed psychopathyit's not up to you to diagnose anyone, and name calling him to denigrate whatever action he's trying to do, and use it to justify your behavior also shows you uncommitted resolution to not be a communist, showing you that you are encapsulated in what the video describes. you are not engaged into real change.
I consider TTW historically inaccurate but the criticism of how you are not revolutionary is accurate, and with your behavior you are at two posts of asking Thirdworldists to be physically assaulted because you don't want to hear their justified criticism.
>lick my ballsbeing a communist requires to have a couple. you have none.
>>2360927>it's not up to you to diagnose anyone, and name calling him to denigrate whatever action he's trying to doIt’s been over a year of some horseshit “RAHRAHRAH I’LL KILL YOU! AMERICA MUST BE DESTROYED! I’M THE NEXT LENIN!” Either shit or get off the pot. Laser anon was similarly a schizo, but he actually had the balls to go after cops. Felix was just an endless cycle of
>”DESTROY! KILL! DESTROY! RIGHT NOOOOOWWW!”>”What do you mean ‘where do we start?’ Just do the revolution already!”>”Theres an unguarded arms factory near my house, you should blow that up! (Not me though)”Literally all he’d do is some retarded dick measuring shit, it was for his own ego not for any cause. It was so he could LARP as “I’m the REAL Revolutionary!”
>you are not engaged into real change.<real change is when you vomit out your violent fantasies onlineAgain, you want kudos for talking a lot of shit without doing anything.
>you are at two posts of asking Thirdworldists to be physically assaulted because you don't want to hear their justified criticism.<“y-you asked for third worldists to be assaulted!” Seriously why are you guys such fucking pussies; Felix would just run his mouth telling anyone who didn’t enthusiastically agree with him how they were gonna be tortured than executed but you start fucking crying if someone says third worldists should be beaten. Fucking grow a pair. You want to be treated with respect? Fucking show some. But until then no one has to indulge the angry small business owner’s narcissism.
>>2360935It literally doesn't matter. It is a culture war issue that is baked into western society and can never be too much. Zionism will always have the material support of the western sponsors and so it will always have many backers chasing those incentives. They may lie to your face, they may break the law and do the most ridiculous things. At the end of the day, the police is still on their side and so are going to be most of the institutions of the state.
And crucially, much of capitalists as well. You can't de-program Zionists who never ever believed what they spout. And the more ridiculous and culture-war-y that the matter gets, the more people will be acting on cynical tribalism rather than genuine conviction.
So talk away. Point and laugh. It's only advancing the Zionist agenda making the Zionist LARP more accessible to new culture warriors.
>>2360949based
why would anyone want to move to the USA anyway
>>2360955it enrages me how the jewish supremacist groups always use names like 'Anti Defamation League". In France there is La LICRA, which stands for something like anti-racist league. When they dont care about defamation and racism against others but they are just a front for Jewish supremacism and Jewish lack of accountability.
They cry in pain as they strike you.
>>2360960>>2360979Capitalism rewards sociopathic traits
the trvthiest of nvkes
>>2361015That's hilarious too the lengths wikipedia goes to not mention their real gender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brianna_WuAnybody else going by not their birth name, first thing in the article would be their birth name and etc. Doesn't even have her "maiden name" lol.
>>2361030Yeah apparently so.
>In 2018, Wu unsuccessfully ran for Congress in Massachusetts's 8th congressional district.[9] Wu began a second campaign for the primary in 2020; in April, she announced her departure from the race, due to the COVID-19 lockdown preventing in-person campaigningApparently she dropped out of college to be an animator and get into politics and somehow she's like a somebody or something? Who the fuck is giving her money? (Rhetorical question:
Jews)
>At the age of 19, Wu formed a small animation studio to create an animated pilot episode. The venture was unsuccessful, resulting in her withdrawal from college and a move to Washington, D.C., to work in political fundraising for several years.[14] She later worked as a journalist until she was inspired by the release of the iPhone to work as a graphic designer and create a video game. >>2361052You aren't censoring anything. It's the mods who will inevitably delete my posts who are literally censoring it. But I don't care about that, I'll keep posting what I want.
You are also a disingenuous piece of shit. You know you'd be making fun of any of these people if they were a man. Hell even if they were a woman you'd rip on them for being ugly and repulsive. Just because they're so pathetic to be a middle aged man calling themselves a woman that we are supposed to overlook all these things.
>>2361000>You cannot blame Tommy Robinson, or Donald Trump, or JK Rowling, for "contributing to an environment led to [someone being murdered]", but also chant "Death, Death to the IDF."<This is the liberal in your wayYeah. I mean, what was that Joker-pilled shit Trump said that one time, "the world is an angry place, what you think this is going to cause a little more anger?" But it's not like a musician at a festival saying "death to the IDF" isn't anything the Israelis haven't heard before. Like, I
know that they're not shocked, and am slightly offended they want me to feel that way. He didn't even say "the conquering sword of Islam terrifies the enemy."
>>2361055>You know you'd be making fun of any of these people if they were a man. Hell even if they were a woman you'd rip on them for being ugly and repulsive.Trvke
>Just because they're so pathetic to be a middle aged man calling themselves a woman that we are supposed to overlook all these things.okay now you're just being a reactionary dumbass
>>2361037>>2361038I think she didn’t even get reviews for her game, she just jumped on gamergate as a form of promotion for a mobile game. Then claimed gamergate put a sniper outside her house to kill her for being a woman.
That said, I think the anti-trans stuff is unnecessary. Hate her for her views and not her identity.
Xirs pinned xeet right now:
I want to say something hard.
There is something very wrong with the direction of trans culture right now. If we don’t change course, and soon, we are going to lose everything we’ve gained.
This isn’t just about backlash. It’s not just “conservatives are targeting us.” Of course they are. But what no one wants to say out loud is that we are handing them the ammunition. And it is costing us the goodwill of the public, the trust of institutions, and the stability of our own community.
I’m talking about the way trans culture has been shaped by trauma, by social media clicks, and by a total lack of self-reflection.
We’ve built a culture that rewards outrage instead of insight. Narcissism instead of responsibility. Pain instead of integration.
The most visible parts of our community are now shaped by people who were never socialized by women, who don’t know how to relate like women, who were never taught emotional regulation, softness, or interdependence. Instead, they learned their identity through memes, porn, and Twitter pile-ons.
The result is that much of trans culture today is fundamentally male-coded, even when it claims the language of feminism. It is competitive, hierarchical, entitlement-driven, and obsessed with controlling others instead of understanding them.
And we don’t hold each other accountable. We destroy anyone who tries to.
If you say, “Hey, maybe we shouldn’t put intact males in women’s prisons,” you’re a bigot.
If you say, “Maybe some kids are being pushed into transition too fast,” you’re genocidal.
If you say, “I want trans healthcare to be safe and evidence-based,” you’re a traitor.
There is no room for nuance. There is no room for discussion. Only purity tests, moral panic, and trauma rituals.
And the public? They’re watching. And they’re pulling back support. I’ve seen the data. Trans rights peaked in 2020 and 2021. Since then, it has been declining rapidly across the board, especially around youth transition, women’s sports, prisons, and forced speech codes.
And no, it’s not just Fox News viewers. It’s independents. It’s liberals. It’s the institutional middle. These are the people we need to keep healthcare open, protections intact, and lives safe.
Do you know what happens when the moderates walk away? Only the extremes are left. And the extreme is not sustainable.
What scares me most is this. If we stay on this path, trans rights will not be taken from us. We will have given them up.
We will have pushed away our allies. We will have alienated the public. We will have made ourselves ungovernable, unrelatable, and untrustworthy. We will have built a movement too fragile to survive criticism and too aggressive to grow.
I know this post will make people angry. I know I’ll be called self-hating, transphobic, conservative, a pick-me. That’s what happens when you say something real in a culture addicted to performance.
But I’m saying it anyway.
Because I love us. I love trans people.
And I want us to have a future. We don’t get there by burning down every bridge.
What’s bravest, what’s needed in this moment is honesty about our problems.
>>2361062>That said, I think the anti-trans stuff is unnecessary. Hate her for her views and not her identity.I think calling her ugly or making fun of her voice is valid as long as you're not doing it just because she's trans. There are hot trans people Brianna Wu just isn't one of them.
I mean insulting someone's appearance is a very lazy form of argument but we make fun of incels for being ugly all the time so I think it's fair game.
>>2361015Well she's improved her appearance.
>>2361062I think in Brianna's case there's something more psychological going on and it'll take a shrink to figure out. She was abandoned as a child and put up for adoption, and then adopted by a fundamentalist Christian family who cut off contact with her when she transitioned in college (or so her life story goes). Like "I'm at war with my family who have betrayed me."
>>2361064>>2361066>>2361067Just got off work, was working early so I'm kind of out of it and I apologize if what I'm writing sounds incoherent. That said, I've never really hidden the fact that just by virtue of being where I am, I've kind of experienced the shit that makes for conservative nightmares. Got told to "stop mansplaining" while answering a question in a college class, there's an infamous customer that briefly shopped in my store (and shopped in two other Trader Joe's prior to that before they got banned) that was nonbinary, they didn't make any effort to look not like a woman, unless you count some bizarre bright white facepaint (think Geisha white) and they'd rant about how "ma'am" meant "ugly old hag", they'd talk about how kids shouldn't ever be gendered until they're old enough to consent to it, and they'd attack any employee who didn't know they were non-binary and called her by a gendered term (again, usually ma'am or miss). In one case they claimed a male employee was "threatening to rape them" because
>"They had that look in their eyes that males get before they start raping."Yeah, they're batshit insane, but I imagine that if someone's gender-identity could be "taken away" for being shitty, well what's that say for the other trans or non-binary people? I dunno, it seems rude. Like you wouldn't call a black person the n-word just because they're being rude, right? I imagine purposely misgendering someone or trying to take their gender identity away, when it's so central to their being, just kind of leaves a similar bad taste.
I dunno, I'm not trying to scold anyone. I just think drawing a line in this case is important.
>>2361079>"They had that look in their eyes that males get before they start raping."That stuff always gives me a comical reaction like the badly-mismanaged feminist bookstore in Portlandia. "Everytime you point I see a penis." I've never been able to get angry at that stuff because it's just too ridiculous to me. Dunno maybe it's because I'm with the gays and our humor tends me more about a sort of self-deprecating drag clown realness. I don't get that Tumblrino vibe from Brianna Wu though, saying you can't call her "ma'am" or for some bizarre reason. Her personal aesthetic is all lipstick, sports cars and sportbikes, and corporate-looking. The opposite of crunchy.
>I imagine purposely misgendering someone or trying to take their gender identity away, when it's so central to their being, just kind of leaves a similar bad taste.Yeah. Well the basic impulse there is about tearing other people down which can usually betray that something is not right with oneself, or that someone is projecting something about oneself they don't like onto this other figure. People who call other people ugly feel ugly, etc.
>>2361074>If you declare a maximum on wealth,you are no longer a Marxist.
Book of Maupin 7:12
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1938600261536076116.html
<Exhibit Q8: The Empire That Milton Built. Then Gutted.
>America is in decline. But this wasn’t caused by China, or Russia, or immigration, or wokeism.
>The culprit is Milton Friedman. And the class that turned his ideas into a wrecking ball. (1/17)asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/The-re…
>Friedman taught that the only social responsibility of business is to increase profits. From that seed grew a system that stripped America to its studs and sold the drywall to China. (2/17)
>In this worldview, workers are costs. Communities are irrelevant. The nation-state is an afterthought. Only shareholders matter. If that means dismantling your own country for better margins, so be it. (3/17)
>For 40 years, U.S. elites followed this script. They slashed taxes, deregulated everything, gutted unions, and turned capital loose to roam the globe. (4/17)
>What did America get in return? Walmart shelves full of cheap junk. Cities gutted. Industrial policy banned by economists. And a generation trained to believe that national decline was a virtue. (5/17)
>This wasn’t some invisible hand. It was conscious policy. The WTO, NAFTA, and permanent MFN status for China all served the same goal. Eliminate borders for capital. Trap labor in place. (6/17)
>Washington sold this as modernization. What it really did was euthanize the U.S. working class. A $15 warehouse job replaced a $40 union factory job. That was called progress. (7/17)
>Financialization replaced production. Strip-mining companies for cash became a skill set. Private equity raided nursing homes, telecoms, newspapers, and hospitals. Americans died. Investors thrived. (8/17)
>The political system followed. Congress became a trading floor. Regulatory agencies became career pipelines. Even the Fed became an asset price maintenance machine. (9/17)
>By the time China rose, the damage was already done. We handed them our supply chains. We trained their engineers. And we laughed, because it boosted corporate profits. (10/17)
>Then we panicked. Not because China cheated. But because we realized too late they were building a nation. And we had stopped doing that decades ago. (11/17)
>Today the U.S. spends more on pet pampering than on nuclear engineering. Wall Street decides where the chips get made. The people who caused this still run policy. (12/17)
>This wasn’t a decline. It was a controlled demolition. Neoliberalism lit the fuse. Harvard and McKinsey handled the wiring. (13/17)
>No foreign enemy has done more damage to America than the bipartisan elite who worshipped efficiency, denationalized the economy, and monetized collapse. (14/17)
>They didn’t just fail the American people. They replaced them. With spreadsheets, PowerPoints, and cheap foreign labor. All for a few points on the Dow. (15/17)
>The empire didn’t fall. It was looted, downsized, and outsourced. And the looters wrote the textbooks. (16/17)
>Milton Friedman will never be tried. But history will render its verdict. China didn’t kill the American dream. Neoliberalism did. (17/17) >>2361132There are no billionaires in Communist China. "Billionaire" is a social relation specific to monopoly capitalism. The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production has been completed, the system of exploitation of man by man abolished, and a socialist system established. The exploiting class, as a class, has been eliminated. There are proletarian managers of vast means of production who, as a class, draw income thousands of times less than their capitalist forms.
https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/senior-exec-pay-slumps-at-chinese-listed-firms-in-2023-for-first-time-in-20-years-report-says The chairman of biotech firm WuXi AppTec, Li Ge, a "billionaire", was the highest paid executive with a salary of CNY41.9 million (USD5.7 million). To equate these proletarians who manage vast means of production with capitalist billionaires is anti-Communist slander. Whoever incites others by spreading rumors or slanders or any other means to subvert the State power or overthrow the socialist system shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than five years, criminal detention, public surveillance or deprivation of political rights; and the ringleaders and the others who commit major crimes shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than five years.
>>2360927>you are at two posts of asking Thirdworldists to be physically assaulted because you don't want to hear their justified criticism.I want third-worldists to be shot.
(I live in "the third-world")
>>2361145Already corrected my answer. Auto correct hates me.
Also, here is this:
https://chinaworker.info/en/2013/03/05/562/https://chinaworker.info/en/2025/06/18/47379/>>2361151Approximately 495. Also, stop using money.
>>2360955>we're outraged that a festival meant to bring people together had people chant a popular idea in unison!>>2360994vidrel. Might not be best quality.
>>2360993I hope they get shot by a firing squad.
>>2361167It is the supreme organ of state power, with all other organs subject to it, and it is the largest legislative body in the world. It is most certainly comparable to the CCP (who dominates it) and it is not mere ceremonial.
Also,
BONAPARTE >>2361112I don't have any transphobia.
when did making fun of lolcows turn into transphobia?
>>2361245yes, people who make lolcows their personality are very weird.
>>2361247I try to only pick on people who pick on others. Being a weirdo(chris-chan) isn't really grounds to harass someone. Being a weirdo that supports genocide and dehumanization of minorities(Brianna Wu) warrants being shoved in a locker and reminded to shut the fuck up.
>>2361263FIrefighters = fed
fed = open season
>>2361272Yes.
Wouldn't you shoot forcedfully drafted enemy soldiers on the battlefield?
>>2361254>there's 495 capitalists in the inner partyRule of capital
>ok here's proof to the contraryThat was no proof. That no proof at all.
>ok let me adjust the goalpostsThis did not happen
>admit there's no such thing as the "inner party" in the CPC and that it doesn't have "495 capitalists"Laughable statement.
>>2361064> Men in women's prisonsI really hate this bit as a trans woman. The reason we put trans women in women's prisons is that prison wardens would literally force trans women into the cells with the most violent male inmate possible so she could "calm him down" by letting him tape her
These people are rape apologists. They want trans women in prison to be raped to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_States#V-coding >>2361237Another problem with assessing Crassus's wealth is that his position in Rome meant he had direct control of a large amount of the Roman Republic. His access and control of those resources was far beyond what he personally owned.
>>2361285>It's a Liberal Antifa Chinese drug dealer Iranian Islamist illegal Mexican trans ecoterrorist crisis actorWow!
>>2360949funny how the right does shit like but I do shit like this (pic related) and I'm the grifter
hmm
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