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I would understand it as modern capitalism constantly needing population growth to be maintained. Or is the only solution to the replacement of your ethnicity/religion/culture/etc. to just breed like crazy? Thanks bros
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>>2364072
lol youre the retard who desperately needs to bring morals into the equation

>>2364072
kill yourself

>>2364079
>>2364081
so you cant answer the most basic question in the world? such proud intellects in this thread.

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>>2364084
>you cant answer my retarded question??????????????????

>All the open borders retards literally have no arguments against actual reality.
Literally every time.
Reminder that Marx was against mass immigration and open borders because explicity it was used to create ethnic tensions and drive apart worker solidarity, and no major socialist worth their salt believed in cultural relativism and Socialist states all had (and still have) internal passport systems.

>>2364084
>such proud intellects in this thread
t. retard asking whether his personal whims are le moral good or le moral bad

>>2364076
he says they did but emphasis that it was not the fault of the irish immigrants for doing this, but the fault of the english bourgeoisie making the immigrants suppressing wages inevitable

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>>2364088
communism is neither against or for immigration because both are demands that only belong to the realm of bourgeois politics

>>2364088
yeah yeah adolf hitler we get it, you want every singular immigrant lynched and raped, we got you the first time

>>2364087
yes, you cant.
>>2364089
here's another question then. would you rather live in a nice place or a bad place?

>>2364095
the proletariat is revolutionary because they cant ascend in the class ranks :)

>>2364090
yes… OP is asking whether communism will solve immigration issues since there is no more bourgeoisie. thoughts?


>>2364102
>b-b-b-but marx said (thing he didnt say and that i misinterpret because im a retard)
k

>>2364098
would you rather live in a peaceful neighbourhood or a dangerous neighbourhood?

>>2364107
this poor faggot is a broken record

>>2364095
>le nice
or
<le bad

you are a mentally retarded, with a childlike understanding of the world around you, you need to be institutionalized.

>>2364099
there is no "immigration issue" what there is however, is a social phenomenon linked to the existence of class society leading to immigrants being used as weapons to keep the rate of profit from dropping, immigration itself would likely be the same, but it would not be an economized thing in which poor nations are utilized as farms for wage labor

>>2364107
Desiring something is irrelevant to whether you will ever get it, especially if you're an immiserated wage worker.

>>2364111
>Desiring something is irrelevant to whether you will ever get it
yes, like the lottery. but people still want to win the lottery, no? so i'll ask you in these terms:
would you rather want to be rich or poor?

Reminder that Open borders retards literally have no actual arguments and can only resort to spamming threads with insults, because they know they would get demolished in any actual debate or discussion on the topic.
Also lets be real, the open borders retards in this thread specifcally are extremely antisocial and view Communism as just a means to an end to destroying the community and people around them that they hate because they grew up boring sheltered lives.

>>2364116
>>2364118
>i get my politics from marvel movies
lol its always liberals who are obsessed with rational debate and complete lack of nuance

>>2364110
why would immigration be the same when its for economic reasons that people immigrate? marx says the same for the irish immigrants. now youre contradicting yourself. do you think mexican immogrants cross the border for american culture?

>>2364018
>>2364009
>Mass immigration
No such thing, no measurable correlation between immigration and wages. Sorry cuck

>>2364013
It's not an issue at all, whether the poor proles are brown or white. Wages will be lowered by capitalists regardless. Stay mad

>>2364018
Nope I'm right, you're wrong and you're a race obsessed cuck who actually grants rightoids ground on the immigration "issue" lmao

>>2364037
>Why in fuck do I want my local culture, which was very community and civic minded, and very polite, and very nice around here, completely erased by a bunch of fucking ethno-centric antisocial fuckwits who think sexually assaulting women in broad daylight is perfectly fine,
Please keep your racialized rape fetish to yourself thanks. You can go back to jerking it to cuck porn I don't care, just don't make your weird fetishes other people's problem 👍

>>2364124
>Wages will be lowered by capitalists regardless
this retard anthropomorphizes capital lmfao

>>2364124
>no measurable correlation between immigration and wages
interesting that you disagree with marx, but anyway.

>>2364116
They want whatever fucks over the "boomers" and "reactionaries" around them because their entire politics are driven by extremely antisocial attitudes based around their boring suburban lives.
Like I've said numerous times, most of todays "communists" would have just been antisocial punks if it was still the 1970s. The western modern Communist movement is an antisocial counter-culture rather than an actual political project.

>>2364121
there are other reasons that people immigrate, it's not as if instantly every singular immigrant leaves, but some immigrants do it for cultural or scenic reasons, if you're a german and for whatever reason you choose to migrate to scotland, chances are it isn't for an economic reason

>>2364124
>no measurable correlation between immigration and wages
lol this braindead troglodyte becomes just as retarded as /pol/tards when trying to debunk their just as retarded claims

>>2363860
Well the absolute will drop soon since below replacement rates. Also % different is totally relevant & impactful, why move the goalpost in the first place?

>>2364132
>They want whatever fucks over the "boomers" and "reactionaries"
<nooooooooo think of my reserve and property!!!!
lmao

>based around their boring suburban lives

your position is the most suburban thing here

>>2364134
i wasnt talking about germans, i was talking about mexicans. why do you think mexicans risk their lives to cross the border?

>>2364139
economic reasons, that'll end, but it seems that you have a bit of a poor grip on what i'm saying, i'm using that as an example for non-economic migration, whereas your example is a purely economic one

>>2364132
they just want to silence you into conformity, since they cant actually argue with facts, but only insults.

>>2364132
>>2364145
you need to demonstrate why the proletariat should bother with interclassist demands first

>>2364140
and after there is no economic incentive to cross the border, will as many go to america? no. obviously not. the main driver of immigration is economic. this is entirely common sense and empirically founded. why dong mexicans sneak into argentina like they do america?

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there are no "negative effects of immigration" separately from integration into a unified struggle of labor. wages dont go down by mere math or will

modern liberal democracy is destroying fascism by itself anyway, immigration will keep coming and it wont be stopped :D

>>2364138
Dude, just admit, you want things to go to shit and piss off everyone around you because you are an antisocial retard who's politics are driven by spite.
I actually live in an area that got turned into an ethnic enclave, my area went from 80%+ white to 30% white in little over a decade and everything has gone to fucking SHIT and it's a crime infested shithole now with antisocial fucktards everywhere being fucking shitheads all through the day and night. The streets went from spotless to completely trash filled, buildings now have bordered up windows, front terraces are all fucked, you have ethic psychopaths harassing women at the local supermarket. Why in fuck am I supposed to be happy with this huh? Actually explain it.

>>2364102
did you read the article or did you just search "marx immigration" on google lmfao

>>2364152
>you want things to go to shit
things are already shit for the reserveless propertyless wage worker bud

>>2364151
so immigration doesnt affect wages?

>>2364157
who are you talking to

>>2364157
>there are no "negative effects of immigration" separately from integration into a unified struggle of labor
Try rubbing two neurons together instead of asking the same question +10 times.

>>2364158
>>2364158
>there are no "negative effects of immigration"

>>2364161
try reading the rest of the sentence you fucking mongol

>>2364154
Ah yes, because the average working class person didn't live in a utopia 20 years ago, it's perfectly fine to destroy all local culture and ghettoize literally every working class neighbourhood. Great argument.
>>2364153
Dude, Marx literally explains how mass immigration is used to drive down wages and create ethnic tensions and destroys any sense of international solidarity.

>>2364163
>>2364160
does immigration affect wages? yes or no?

>>2364164
>Dude, Marx literally explains how mass immigration is used to drive down wages and create ethnic tensions and destroys any sense of international solidarity.
where? and how does this mean hes opposed to immigration?

>>2364167
youre so desperate to get an own despite possessing no literacy at all

>>2364150
i don't disagree that not as many would go in, nor do i dispute this, but it's easier for a central american (which are the bulk of migrants who enter through mexico btw, they are from guatemala and whatnot) to go into the USA than it is to go to argentina, in fact you mentioning argentina allows me to a mention that there is a similar phenomenon there, where people from the poorer south american nations (like brazil, paraguay, bolivia, peru) enter into the richer nations surrounding them as well


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