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Is the fact that the Scandinavian countries have some of the strictest immigration laws in the world a form of social murder?

I’m autistic, queer and chronically ill. I currently live in America and am petrified of being a victim of eugenics. The Trump administration has made it clear they do not want me or any of my other autistic comrades to exist. RFK will soon move forward in finding a way to eradicate autistics. Same thing with queer people. The big bill that was just passed also cuts Medicare, which is crucial to my survival.

Since I’m unable to work a real job or be politically active in the streets due to my autistic and disabled identities my best option would be taking refuge in one of the Scandinavian countries. I’m particularly drawn to Iceland and Finland. All Scandinavian countries have some of the best healthcare in the world. They have the best benefits and aid for disabled and chronically ill people in the world. Very mutual aid-based cultures. And they’re basically autistic utopias since Scandinavians don’t do small talk, are very quiet and reserved, and don’t look people in the eye when they talk. Their languages are also very direct and much less ambiguous. They’re also very solitary people. I know society is what disabled me so if I could move to a Scandinavian country my disabilities would no longer be a problem and I’d be free.

But Scandinavian countries have some the the tightest immigration restrictions in the world. They don’t allow refugees fleeing from wars in so of course they won’t allow autistic comrades fleeing eugenics in. I’m fucking livid about it. Moving to Iceland, Finland or any other Scandinavian country is my only hope and the only hope of millions of other autistics in America. We are literally on the verge of being exterminated and yet we still can’t take refuge in the only countries that can save us.

So does this count as social murder, as Engels says?
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>>2378691
what is the relevance of the autism here?
I am not autistic (or so I believe) and there are many women who do not want to fuck me. And that is normal.
But if I was autistic, then it would be eugenics?
What?!

>>2378691
im glad you arent adding your genes to the pool tbh

>>2378694
>>2378698
Dating preferences are often shaped by the eugenicist nature of capitalist society.

>>2378705
cool, im concerned with ending class society altogether not alleviating its many "ills"

>>2378706
Eugenics is the VERY BASIS of capitalism. You can’t fight capitalism without fighting eugenics.

>>2378707
hmm nope, pretty sure its class

>>2378707
I think the inheritance of private property is a large part of capitalism but I wouldn't call it the only part.

>>2378714
where capital comes from is irrelevant

>>2378709
The disabled were the first class. All class oppression comes from ableism.

>>2378733
communism isnt about oppression in the abstract either

>>2378809
That’s exactly what HistMat and DiaMat are about.

>>2378691
What about women who have autism themselves and don't want to date autistic men because we want to prioritize our support needs before his?

>>2378691
>>2379317
In primitive communist societies elderly and sick were killed in celebration of life. Dont be individualist moralist

>>2366681
You wont get refugee status because america is considered "safe" country for some reason. You can try to work for 7 years without citizenship and then claim it but I doubt you can do that with all your disabilities. Maybe you should move to Canada instead?

>>2379383
More like, they didn't have the medical technology to save sick and disabled people.

Down Syndrome? You'd probably die as a newborn infant since heart surgery didn't exist.

Tetanus? You'd die painfully due to no vaccines.

Rabies? See above.

High needs autism? You'd probably die from seizures, or from running off away from the tribe, or by drowning from running into a lake or river.

The only reason we have so many disabled people around today is because of medical interventions and tech. Before modernity, most disabilities were a death sentence.

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>>2377499
>Implying
By this logic, he also reduces the labor pool of where he's coming from.

>>2366681
>I’m autistic
that's the problem, you start giving yourself labels, modern psychology is built to destroy your potential, read Deleuze.

Autism is caused by shitty parenting

>>2366681
I think Scandinavia and Scandinavians are pretty funny. They complain about immigration about wanting to RETVRN despite the fact that to this still they are still the whitest fuckers on earth and still have their treats(welfare). They are some of the most privileged people on earth and the fact I've been seeing little pussies on the internet crying about modernity while having a home in a peaceful country with low immigration and high standards of living. Honestly I feel just like immigrants who come from third world shit holes who come to America and get annoyed when they see privileged Americans complaining about their country. You mother fuckers are relatively far more privileged than we are in even America.

>>2379689
>read deleuze
Yeah right. Just take anti oedipus and read with no references and no preparation. Le genius

>>2379700
I'll give you a tldr. Basically modern psychology and psychiatry focus not on curing you, but on making you someone useful to the system. You are not a person, an individual, but a diagnosis, and institutions, even your own family will treat you as a subhuman because you have the label autistic, bpd, or whatever.

>>2379716
Has there ever been a communist party that even reviewed deleuze's work?

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didnt we JUST have some retarded 600 reply glow in the dark thread about how communists should stop focusing on the proletariat and instead go work in homeless shelters with op ignoring every single reply and just repeating the same argument over and over again lmfaoo

>>2379738
If God did not take bait, it's up to /leftypol/ to take it.

For the nth time, communism isn't some feel-good save-the-world project, it's class struggle for proletarian interests. Acting like it’s about humanity as a whole is classic petty bourgeois cope that strips it of its actual content.

>>2379950
Shouldn’t the disabled be included in class struggle?

>>2380568
Yes, you should attempt to contribute to society instead of wasting everybody's time

Like I'm not trying to be harsh here, but you could at least make a blog post on >>>/edu/ or go cry in the Grace thread in >>>/siberia/ where people are more likely to be kind and understanding

>>2380589
You just admitted to supporting eugenics.

>>2380590
How is asking you to apply yourself to something, anything other than repeating yourself in this thread eugenics?

>>2380599
What if I can’t contribute? Should I be excluded from the revolution because I’m disabled?

>>2380625
Excellent excellent; I haven't had the opportunity to so this for a while
You can study theory!
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
Read book plz
Tankyoo

Pretty sure a country that aborts Downies at a rate of 95%+ doesn’t want to deal with autists coming in from abroad.

>>2380656
some well needed trvke in this embarrassing yankeeslop thread

>>2380568
<it's class struggle for proletarian interests
By disabled do you mean illiterate retards like yourself or what

>>2380625
the revolution is not a fun party you know

if you can't do it, you can't do it
Nothing to cry about
you can always be a librarian or something like that


>>2380631
>you can contribute by reading :))))))))))))) it doesnt matter what just Read
lmao

and of course its fucking stalin

>>2367616
>>2366681

Masterclass bait. I'll see you in Valhalla OP

>>2366681
My sister is a paranoid schizophrenic. Can she claim asylum in Finland too?

>>2381090
No unless you live in a war torn country.

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>>2381090
>>2366681
do you really want to live in picrel?!

>>2367081
A did a bit of research on island nations to fuck off to, don't you guys have the same issues of the average western neoliberal nation?

>>2381150 >>2381150
oh no
we are much more backwards (both in infrastructure AND in mentality/culture) and poor than the western states
But what I like is that the system is kind-of 2 tiered. It's not completely neoliberal across the board like in america.
For example, while we do attract rich foreigners due to low tax rates and they get all their private services for price from their desired private companies, for the rest of the population there's a lot of social services.
Education is free (including university), Healthcare is free, transport for students and senior citizens is free. A minimum salary was introduced recently. Vaccines are done in public hospitals for free. Old age pensions, widow pensions, disabilities pensions etc are given.
So if you do not have Money to go to private schools and be among crackkas, there's always the free public option. It is kind of a self-imposed apartheid which tries to benefit the majority.
Being a small island with a small population however, there are natural limits: beyond the luxury hotel with nice beaches schtick, there's not much. I studied engineering, but there's no mineral mines, manufacturing etc here, so job opportunities are very limited. The few opportunities there are, salaries are shit.

>>2380568
Only on Friday
>>2380590
No, I only do so on Mondays

>>2381154
So basically it's still a terrible idea to move there if you aren't shitting gold. Sad.


>>2378512
>>2378691
Protip: relationships built on guilt tripping and emotional blackmail are never going to be healthy or stable.

>Return to thread about whether or not disabled immigrant proles should be genocided for the needs of the Fatherland
<Return to see Leftoids defending the bigoted romantic norms of capitalist society in the name of defending white women (as usual)
When I’m in a Hitler competition vs a leftist

>>2383236
It’s not bigoted to point out how guilt tripping people into romantic relationships will never result in a healthy relationship.

“You only reject me because you’re immersed in capitalist ideology, be my gf or else” isn’t going to end well. A relationship isn’t a broken person looking for someone to make them whole, but two wholes coming together to form something new.

>>2383236
“I don’t want to be my disabled boyfriend’s caregiver” is a perfectly legitimate reason to turn down a relationship. Especially when women’s care work is always uncompensated, and her bf is too low on spoons to get a real job or help her out with housework. She might as well adopt a disabled child if she wants that workload.

>>2383236
Since when are the Scandinavian countries in particular obligated to be the world’s breadbasket?


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