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Is the fact that the Scandinavian countries have some of the strictest immigration laws in the world a form of social murder?

I’m autistic, queer and chronically ill. I currently live in America and am petrified of being a victim of eugenics. The Trump administration has made it clear they do not want me or any of my other autistic comrades to exist. RFK will soon move forward in finding a way to eradicate autistics. Same thing with queer people. The big bill that was just passed also cuts Medicare, which is crucial to my survival.

Since I’m unable to work a real job or be politically active in the streets due to my autistic and disabled identities my best option would be taking refuge in one of the Scandinavian countries. I’m particularly drawn to Iceland and Finland. All Scandinavian countries have some of the best healthcare in the world. They have the best benefits and aid for disabled and chronically ill people in the world. Very mutual aid-based cultures. And they’re basically autistic utopias since Scandinavians don’t do small talk, are very quiet and reserved, and don’t look people in the eye when they talk. Their languages are also very direct and much less ambiguous. They’re also very solitary people. I know society is what disabled me so if I could move to a Scandinavian country my disabilities would no longer be a problem and I’d be free.

But Scandinavian countries have some the the tightest immigration restrictions in the world. They don’t allow refugees fleeing from wars in so of course they won’t allow autistic comrades fleeing eugenics in. I’m fucking livid about it. Moving to Iceland, Finland or any other Scandinavian country is my only hope and the only hope of millions of other autistics in America. We are literally on the verge of being exterminated and yet we still can’t take refuge in the only countries that can save us.

So does this count as social murder, as Engels says?
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the nordics do not owe you shit

>>2375316
Elaborate

>>2374867
I won’t have to mask in Scandinavia.


>>2377093
>jacobin

>>2366681
Go be mentally ill in Africa

>>2377439
Please address the arguments.

I have no idea why leftists are pro-immigration.

You're literally diluting the labor pool for the benefit of the capital.

What is wrong with you

>>2377499
OP doesn't see himself as an immigrant but an asylum seeker running from eugenics.

>>2377525
Neurodivergent people have it difficult everywhere though, they're the victims of soft eugenics everywhere because modern society isn't built for their brains.

>>2377499
>why are you increasing productivity through technology for the benefit of capital and displacing le workers? Yes i am a luddite, how could you tell?

>>2377536
>”soft eugenics”
No such thing

>>2366681
>I’m autistic, queer and chronically ill
yeah I can see, no need to clarify

>>2366681
>Is the fact that the Scandinavian countries have some of the strictest immigration laws in the world a form of social murder?
phil retard moment

>>2378248
Being excluded from the dating pool for not being normal enough absolutely is soft eugenics, whether it's a good thing or not is a completely different matter.

>>2378512
no one is obligated to like you, much less fuck you

>>2378512
No one is obligated to date you. Sex and romance are not basic needs society has to provide everyone.

>>2378512
>soft eugenics
anarchists love reducing everything to vibes and aura man

>>2378603
>>2378625
Not wanting to have a sexual relationship with an autistic person is the very definition of eugenics, yes.

>>2378691
what is the relevance of the autism here?
I am not autistic (or so I believe) and there are many women who do not want to fuck me. And that is normal.
But if I was autistic, then it would be eugenics?
What?!

>>2378691
im glad you arent adding your genes to the pool tbh

>>2378694
>>2378698
Dating preferences are often shaped by the eugenicist nature of capitalist society.

>>2378705
cool, im concerned with ending class society altogether not alleviating its many "ills"

>>2378706
Eugenics is the VERY BASIS of capitalism. You can’t fight capitalism without fighting eugenics.

>>2378707
hmm nope, pretty sure its class

>>2378707
I think the inheritance of private property is a large part of capitalism but I wouldn't call it the only part.

>>2378714
where capital comes from is irrelevant

>>2378709
The disabled were the first class. All class oppression comes from ableism.

>>2378733
communism isnt about oppression in the abstract either

>>2378809
That’s exactly what HistMat and DiaMat are about.

>>2378691
What about women who have autism themselves and don't want to date autistic men because we want to prioritize our support needs before his?

>>2378691
>>2379317
In primitive communist societies elderly and sick were killed in celebration of life. Dont be individualist moralist

>>2366681
You wont get refugee status because america is considered "safe" country for some reason. You can try to work for 7 years without citizenship and then claim it but I doubt you can do that with all your disabilities. Maybe you should move to Canada instead?

>>2379383
More like, they didn't have the medical technology to save sick and disabled people.

Down Syndrome? You'd probably die as a newborn infant since heart surgery didn't exist.

Tetanus? You'd die painfully due to no vaccines.

Rabies? See above.

High needs autism? You'd probably die from seizures, or from running off away from the tribe, or by drowning from running into a lake or river.

The only reason we have so many disabled people around today is because of medical interventions and tech. Before modernity, most disabilities were a death sentence.

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>>2377499
>Implying
By this logic, he also reduces the labor pool of where he's coming from.

>>2366681
>I’m autistic
that's the problem, you start giving yourself labels, modern psychology is built to destroy your potential, read Deleuze.

Autism is caused by shitty parenting

>>2366681
I think Scandinavia and Scandinavians are pretty funny. They complain about immigration about wanting to RETVRN despite the fact that to this still they are still the whitest fuckers on earth and still have their treats(welfare). They are some of the most privileged people on earth and the fact I've been seeing little pussies on the internet crying about modernity while having a home in a peaceful country with low immigration and high standards of living. Honestly I feel just like immigrants who come from third world shit holes who come to America and get annoyed when they see privileged Americans complaining about their country. You mother fuckers are relatively far more privileged than we are in even America.

>>2379689
>read deleuze
Yeah right. Just take anti oedipus and read with no references and no preparation. Le genius

>>2379700
I'll give you a tldr. Basically modern psychology and psychiatry focus not on curing you, but on making you someone useful to the system. You are not a person, an individual, but a diagnosis, and institutions, even your own family will treat you as a subhuman because you have the label autistic, bpd, or whatever.

>>2379716
Has there ever been a communist party that even reviewed deleuze's work?

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didnt we JUST have some retarded 600 reply glow in the dark thread about how communists should stop focusing on the proletariat and instead go work in homeless shelters with op ignoring every single reply and just repeating the same argument over and over again lmfaoo

>>2379738
If God did not take bait, it's up to /leftypol/ to take it.

For the nth time, communism isn't some feel-good save-the-world project, it's class struggle for proletarian interests. Acting like it’s about humanity as a whole is classic petty bourgeois cope that strips it of its actual content.

>>2379950
Shouldn’t the disabled be included in class struggle?

>>2380568
Yes, you should attempt to contribute to society instead of wasting everybody's time

Like I'm not trying to be harsh here, but you could at least make a blog post on >>>/edu/ or go cry in the Grace thread in >>>/siberia/ where people are more likely to be kind and understanding

>>2380589
You just admitted to supporting eugenics.

>>2380590
How is asking you to apply yourself to something, anything other than repeating yourself in this thread eugenics?

>>2380599
What if I can’t contribute? Should I be excluded from the revolution because I’m disabled?

>>2380625
Excellent excellent; I haven't had the opportunity to so this for a while
You can study theory!
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
Read book plz
Tankyoo

Pretty sure a country that aborts Downies at a rate of 95%+ doesn’t want to deal with autists coming in from abroad.


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