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>Lost with microchips against China
>Lost with green energy against China
>Lost with AI against China
>About to completely gut their universities and academia
AmeriKKKa and the WeSSt are no longer the vanguard of innovation and development and thus insane fantasies where millions of Chinese and Indian folx get brutally murdered is their only way to cope

has the bill still not passed yet

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>>2367751
wtf is a pitch deck

>>2367775
its like a modern version of the 'elevator pitch' where in the 1980s you would be in an elevator with a high powered businessman in New York and have 30 seconds before it reached the boardroom to shill your product or idea

>centrist party
>elons america party
yes. split the vote. good.

>>2367782
>in the 1980s you would be in an elevator with a high powered businessman in New York and have 30 seconds before it reached the boardroom to shill your product or idea
this is so cucked lol. just give your best idea away to a parasite who steals for a living so he can go tell his buddies in the board room it was his idea

>>2367757
no lol
also does it have to go to the senate again if/when the house passes it, or does it go straight to the president (i'm not american)

>>2367787
dude I don't fucking know

>>2367785
The people pitching these ideas were focused on their own enrichment as well. It was more like trying to present yourself as having a plan and a lot of money so you could tie up more investors in your project and kickstart it.
>>2367787
>>2367790
The white house wants to pass it by tomorrow, so presumably it's just going on Trump's desk. It's not entirely certain yet whether the house will vote for it though. It's a 50/50 on whether Trump can unite the GOP and have Demcucks vote for it, or whether internal divisions in the Republican party give way to deny it

>>2367794
Do you not feel the collapse of the space time continuum? The bill's passage draws ever nearer. Comrade Hakim Jeffery is rattling on now for hours, sabotaging the fascists efforts.

they might pass it during the heat death of the universe

so did anyone figure out WHY that wignat lured/killed those firefighters the other day? was it some kind of turner diaries shit where they're trying to cripple the state's ability to prevent arson so they can go burn down black people's houses or some shit?

>>2367794
>The people pitching these ideas were focused on their own enrichment as well. It was more like trying to present yourself as having a plan and a lot of money so you could tie up more investors in your project and kickstart it.
of course; I'm just saying even from a porky perspective of little porky seeking big porky's investment, it's cucked. never pitch your idea in a private space where only one guy hears it and then he runs off and claims it was his own. get a patent first and then schedule meetings with several boards of directors and never let anyone think they were the first to hear it.


>>2367810
Why is capitalist media so transparent in regards to all this

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It's wild to me that people online, like online leftists, will send me fucking messages telling me to kill myself and talk about how I'm a grifter, but I'm literally like 72 hours from being homeless, fucking, I'm rehoming my dog, like I am probably never been, I've never been this down bad before in my life, and at the same time I reached out to Hello Orgs, I fucking, I'm the one who was like let's donate this money to Palestine, let's donate this money to this charity, like let's donate them to the Red Crescent Society, like I did the fucking fire, like I put out the word, like let's make this space, this venue, a meeting ground for all the political parties that are on the left, all the socialist and anarchist orgs and shit, like if you're a part of that, come here. I'm doing all this while I'm this fucking down bad, and motherfuckers will still send me hate messages, and it's like bro, what do you fucking want from me, like pick up a shovel, because dog, I'm been digging and my shoulders are getting fucking tired.

I'm not sure what the fuck else I'm supposed to do. What is leftism supposed to look like? Like, what is the whole point of this? And I'm gonna be posted up with hella flyers, hella fucking zines, hella pamphlets. I got Capital for Dummies, Imperialism for Dummies, Beginner's Guide to Mutual Aid, fucking all types of stuff we're gonna have on display. I'm the one who organized the damn event. I'm one person, one individual who is barely able to stay alive because I'm unemployed just like 25% of America, big homie. I ain't nothing special about what I'm dealing with. People live in motels, people fucking are unemployed, people fucking live on the street. That's the fucking nature of the beast. That's the nature of the beast, and you motherfuckers are telling me I'm a grifter. I'm out here living in reality.

I have a trans friend who is going to be without healthcare because they live in Arkansas right now. And I linked them up with another person who lives in Philadelphia, who I met through the magazine. And when their lease is up in Arkansas, they're moving to Philadelphia. Wow. Putting two and two together through a platform, thats what this magazine can do.

I reached out to the guy who runs Means TV. We spoke for about an hour and a half a couple of months ago, a few months ago. And I reached out to him and I asked him, one, to read an article that I was quite proud of, two, to let him know that I was still thinking about our meeting and our discussion, and three, to ask him if he could send out our GoFundMe through his network, because all of those people who are on his platform are in his network. That's every major leftist YouTuber media personality. They never got back to me, and I don't think they are going to get back to me. I don't think they're going to push my content into that network. And that's a small club, and motherfucker, you are not in it. And I think about that. How hard would it have been for this motherfucker to shoot an email to all these cats who are supposed to be on the same team as me? Motherfucker cannot get no fucking support. Homegirl of mine brought me a fucking Walmart bag full of groceries from her fucking pantry, big dog. That's real praxis. That's real mutual aid. I'm eating one of the cereal bars right now for breakfast. We're in the trenches because we're fucking soldiers in a class war. What the fuck do you expect?

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Furthermore, anytime I speak about anything, I'm putting myself at risk. Like, on a fundamental level, if we're being absolutely 100% serious, when you speak about the things that I speak about in some of the pieces I've written, you are putting yourself in hot water. No one is getting fucking additional support for being an advocate of Palestine. No one is getting additional deals, brand deals, for being a communist. The idea that I'm a grifter is just the stupidest fucking thing that I've had to deal with. Like, bro, if I wanted to grift a culture magazine, I could just not talk about politics. I could do the whole Houdini thing and just never talk about politics and run a successful magazine, because I evidently am able to do that with the politics, which the politics does work against me. It is off-putting to at least some portion of the population. So if I was grifting, you would think I wouldn't take a principled fucking stance on things, but instead I go out of my way to make it a point that if we're going to have a counterculture, it needs to be explicitly anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, and militant. Nope, I must be a grifter. Dog. That doesn't make sense. I feel like I've been gaslighted by people who should be allies to me. It's ridiculous. I'm tired of it.

>>2367815
Florida has labor shortage. Get a job and join revolutionary class https://www.hrdive.com/news/trump-worker-shortage-immigration-crackdown/746481/

>>2367808
That's true, I wouldn't ever hand over my idea that I think is going to make a lot of money to some Patrick Bateman dipshit even if it meant scamming 10 investment banks

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>>2367814
>Why is capitalist media so transparent in regards to all this
Because the point was the cruelty. I mean sending a few hundred people to your bitcoin dictator's prison camp has no material effect whatsoever. THe people sent aren't even leaders or particularly relevant opponents of the ruling class. They are just making a show of it, like when they brag about the awful conditions in ICE detention camps at the border, or when they separate migrants from their family and "lose" their sons and daughters.

THe cruelty is the point.

But until not so long ago it was *just* the cruelty, the show of it. Because imperialism does rely heavily on migration its own policies causes. LAbor moving through borders is just another form of capital. And it is convenient to "brain drain" the periphery and import an underclass of easily coerced migrants to depress domestic wages. And foment economic and political dependence through remittances and vast "diaspora" voting blocks.

But now things are changing somewhat. We are going head first into the cold war and we are entering a period where it's going to be a Syria/Libya/Venezuela/Nicaragua every single year. That is way too much migration and the usual controls are nowhere enough to contain the wage slaves back in the regions they are meant to be exploited at, nor to control the demographics at home to not to heavily swing outside of comfort.
You can only create so many gusanos over time, if you import half a country's population over a single year, because you set their homes on fire and destroyed their economy, you are not gonna end up with obedient "dreamers". Again, as was the case for when NATO destroyed some country in MENA and it became mandatory for some intermediary country like Turkey to absorb all the refugees, or face demographic and political difficulties for the imperialist powers.

So now they are building this actual security state a round migration as a form of safe nationalism which empowers all the domestic fascists without their ideological nonsense veering too far from the interests of the bourgeoisie. It is okay to terrorize "illegal aliens" into being good clandestine wage slaves, but that's as far as the leash stretches in enabling white nationalism. The obvious conclusion being the fascists will have to find the internal enemy/scapegoat on "the left", which as the red scare pis made more explicit will also be related to China and foreign influence in general, putting a nice xenophobic ribbon that ties it all together.

>>2367833 (me)
To put it shortly: The imperial core are adopting the policies toward the periphery that Israel has towards non-Jews.

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Big Beautiful Bill status?


Funny how all of these hackkkivist kiddies just straight up stopped working under Trump’s fascist administration, so instead of going after ICE, the administration, the phantom humanitarian group helping slaughter Palestinians, they’re doing fuck all.

>>2367842
Still waiting on this coon to shut the hell up
https://www.youtube.com/live/0-D0ykUoMp8?si=9K_sTZURWNpLA_Bl

>>2367846
The hacktivist space has been dead and gone for over a decade.
move on anon ffs.

>>2367846
Anonymous says Trump's win was stolen tho

>>2367848
Well, fuck. Closer to two decades.

>>2367848
Bud, hackkktivist groups were going after NYPD and police agencies across the country during the summer of love. Stop being a delusional retard

>>2367847
The coon is talking about WW2 and FDR its actually a great history lesson

>>2367846
Didn't one of the groups claiming to be Anonymous hack into the airline that ICE is using for their deportations a few months back though?

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>>2367854
Not Anonymous, it was one transwoman from Switzerland named Maia

>>2367861
No that was from last year and that was the TSA who was targeted in that instance, I'm talking about this: https://cybernews.com/news/anonymous-hacks-globalx-trump-airline-migrant-deportations/

>>2367861
>just did an OP
<time for me to take a picture
holy OPSEC this is giving me a migraine. It was better to believe it was all gone than this, honestly.

>>2367862
Whoops my dementia brain is getting haxxorings mixed up

is hakeem jefferies our guy? he must really care about proletarians because hes been looping for hours, stalling the fascist bill. He's been fighting the fascists all night for the proletarian's SNAP and medicaid

>>2367847
>coon
are you an unironic hotep type mf or are you a white guy larping as one

>>2367875
someone needs to put this cunt on 2X speed.
Bring the zoomers in already jfc this will send a man mad.

>>2367875
Yas queen! He’s stoping the Drumpftler’s Bad Orange Bill like a boss XD

>>2367888
I think Trump and his BBC bill are bad actually

>>2367849
And no one cares. Every election is stolen. And it’s not like that information would change too much at this point anyways.

>>2367891
Can you articulate why it’s worse than anything Biden and Obama have done?

>>2367875
Controlled opposition, nothing more.

>>2367894
I think giving ICE a budget of 160 billion dollars is bad actually

>>2367898
It is bad, and it is also accelerationist.

>>2367898
Compared to what is regularly spent on the military not including funding Israel and Ukraine’s ongoing genocide campaigns 160 billion is a nothingburger in the long run

>>2367880
come on. hakeem jeffery is nigh the ultimate grand wizard of coonery.

>>2367844
please explain what you meant by this. my question was
>so did anyone figure out WHY that wignat lured/killed those firefighters the other day
I wanted a specific answer, not a link to some psychobabble from glowiepedia

>>2367846
hacktivism has always been reactionary because compsci kiddies have always had a MIC and/or bourgeois background. Read Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine to see how pointless it is to place your hopes in anyone from that milieu, even the Snowden type mfs.

>>2367901
you fail to grasp just how fascist this funding bill is. 150 billion is like 1.5x more funding than the hecking CIA.

>>2367902
dodged the question award

>>2367901
>must things really get 1% worse every single day?
<come on anon 1% isn't that much worse

why the fuck is stalin trending

>>2367901
I pray it never happens but I seriously doubt you will still be saying this "Trump ain't that bad bro!" shit after you and your entire family get sent to a concentration camp in El Salvador for being leftist and critical of Israel.

>look at house debate stream
>the same guy has been talking for like 3 hours straight

>>2367921
He's gonna bore everyone to death thus making them lose interest in the bill. A true revolutionary hero.

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>>2367926
I love the Dutch

correction, that guy has been speaking for 4 and a half hours

>>2367846
Anonymous has been irrelevant for a long time now. Anonymous was always in line with dark enlightenment and libertarian adjacent Peter Thiel crap. Now that their people are in power they have even less reason to do their gay hactvisim.

>>2367840
Nice colors. We should make flags like this for November.

anoonymoos?

>>2367815
>It's wild to me that people online, like online leftists, will send me fucking messages telling me to kill myself and talk about how I'm a grifter,
me: "you must should start the American Workers Party lol"
>>2367825
>I'm the one who organized the damn event. I'm one person, one individual who is barely able to stay alive because I'm unemployed
Give your money to Erik Houdini to start the American Workers Party

>>2367751
This is why we are now importing the educated. H1b visas for highly educated folks to do business here then get the fuck out with all their gained wealth. America will be turned into a grand bazaar where citizens are all slaves that just keep the market stalls in shape for the foreigners who do their business.

>>2367925
yall should really tune in. He is spitting so much theory.

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>>2367948
MIGAtards should have read the fine print on what Trump meant by "Making America Great Again". He only cares about enriching the economic zone. The citizens will need to riot in order to have a shot at receiving some of that wealth

>>2367918
because….

>>2367921
They’re gonna drag this out to delay the passing of the bill beyond July 4th. Now that is hilarious. You know what they should do? There’s a movie on YouTube that is like 10 hours long or something. They should just play that, then play 5 hour long video essays. Delay that shit until August.

>>2367921
yeah it's called a filibuster

>>2367960
I wish stalin was real

>>2367959
Critical support for Indians against the most reactionary elements of the labor aristoKKKracy (But also they should organize and demand better pay)

>pull out one of those stupid placards senators pull out to make their points
>make the graphs on the placards 20 meters long and go on about it for a full 2 days


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>>2367962
Just proving that this site is filled with mfs like this guy

>>2367908
Compared to the suffering American troops unleashed upon millions and millions of Iraqi and Afghan civilians on a daily basis it doesn’t even come close to one percent. But don’t let that stop you from pretending you’re oppressed because you’re not getting your rightful share of imperial spoils

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>>2367901
>muh geopolitics

>>2367971
Edgy boy moralist returned

If you were filibustering what would you do to delay the passing of a reactionary bill? Me personally I would talk about the history of Halo games from Halo CE all the way to 343 taking over and making the new Halos and talk about how that is relevant to the current political crisis. I would tailor this speech to be at least 8 hours long, one hour allotted for the history of each of the 8 Halo games.

Maybe we should elect more socialists to the senate. Not because they can conceivably do anything that provokes change, but so they can be the most annoying filibusterers humanly possible and delay reactionary bills by weeks.

>>2367964
Haven't these exact Indians turned out to be the worse gusanos of all time? I'm not sure we should back either faction here.

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>the longest filibuster was a racist

>>2367959
none of the h1b technocratic PMC classes produce any value

>fineprint
>democrats & republicans
there is no fineprint, agendas or manifestos for any of these candidates. They can say one thing and do another with no contradiction.

>>2367985
What is value according to you and how do software engineers and developers not produce it?

>>2367990
He's just a moron mashing words together for attention, ignore him and the TWist

>>2367974
I would do a leftist version of a Francis E Dec rant, basically how King Lear speaks.

has the concentration camp been opened yet

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>>2367838
>The imperial core are adopting the policies toward the periphery that Israel has towards non-Jews.
>are adopting
>present tense

>>2367974
Me? I'd give them a full screening of Bela Tarr's Satantango. It'd be such a short, wonderful & fluffy experience for them all for sure. :)

>>2367993
Holy crap, I think that would actually make the reactionaries actually second guess the bill and cancel it. I could not stand listening to King Lear crap for that long.

>>2367993
>video
this is a peak into the brain of the perfectly comfortable petty bourgeois reactionary who is so bored to death that he has to have paranoid hallucinations and a persecution complex in place of a personality

>>2367901
The US apparently gave $310 billion to Israel since 1946 and $182.8 billion to Ukraine since 2022 so his glowing shutzstaffel in the ballpark. But at least it gives real americans a job as the ACP would say

>>2367971
>damn I want things to stop being bad for everyone, including the victims of US imperialism
<WELL THAT'S TOO BAD YOU DESERVE TO SUFFER
weirdo

>>2367974
I would include the Halo books too.

>>2367990
labor that augments aggregate material social product. these "software engineers" are no less parasitic than the monopolies they work for. The H-1B constitutes a bourgeois-technocratic stratum, cogs of capitalist superstructure to facilitate the exploitation of the proletarian base, rather than participating in value-creating productive labor.

>>2367971
imageboards have degraded to a point where most posters are false-flag strawmanning their imagined opponents in order to make their own side look good by making their opposition look like edgy maximalists… but we have reached a point where there is a critical mass of this posting style and not enough people sincerely advancing their own ideas.

We're on 5 and a half hours boys.

I think we need a united front, and these cultural events and venues can be the space for people from the PSL, from the DSA, from the FRSO, to come, from the Mutual Aid Orgs, from the Food Not Bombs Org, to come, discuss, chat. Oh, you're a market socialist. That's great. I'm an anarcho-communist. Oh, you're a hardline anarchist. Awesome, awesome. And you're into democratic centralism? The point is, you get all these people in the same room, in the same space, and you make space for them to have discussion, while we still have time to have those discussions, because keep in mind, they could come and repress our communities at any time. These are queer spaces that have historically been policed. Left spaces have historically been policed. So we build the space to have the discussions while we have the time, so we could do what? Drumroll, please. Build the will for revolution. This is like basic revolutionary theory, big dog. I need to build a material base of supporters if I'm going to have a party or some sort of actual organization beyond a magazine. I need to be able to have 50 people paying me $25 a month. If I can get 50 people to pay me $25 a month, then I can do this full-time and not have to worry about being on the street. 50 people, $25. For 25 people, $50. You see what I'm saying? I feel like if I can't do that How can I possibly be a leader of anything when I'm literally about to be homeless, literally about to be fucking on the street?

Like, the problem is, I don't know how to make this magazine make money without having a shitload of money to spend to get started. All of these brands that have success have a lot of money to start with. I can't even afford to get a test print of three pieces of my own clothing to get. And I have the models, I have everything lined up, and I cannot even afford to do that because I am so fucking down. I'm gonna be honest with you, Chief, I really appreciate the kind compliment. I'm trying to internalize the kind compliments that people do give me more. Not just write it off as a sarcastic joke that, like, maybe you really do think that I could restart the American Workers' Party or some shit like that. I don't know. I would just like to fucking not be homeless. Um, my cup is just about empty, and I keep finding more water in there. But it's hard to even just think about everything that's happening in the world when you're literally on the edge of the abyss yourself. And I know that that's not an excuse, but I'm exhausted also in part because I don't have an outlet of people to discuss the way I feel about this shit with. I don't have family members that I could just call up and tell them how I feel. That's not an option for me. So I'm just trying to be locked in, grindset, mindset, just fucking buckle down, hustle, and get it. But- I'm fucking tired.

>>2368015
>le baristas

>>2368015
>glowonymous doesn't know what productive work is

>>2367875
>He's been fighting the fascists
LMAO

>>2368027
it's when you dress in overalls and it's 1920

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Mister President it hasn't been passed yet.

>>2368027
>produce is profit
this vulgar smithonian capitalist notion of productivity is nonsense

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>>2368034
umm this is good because your government bombed people and you didn't do anything about it

>>2368034
I hope most of those 1.9 million in Florida are Cubans.

>>2368024
no, it is too early to get tired.
The story ends when the feds put a bullet in our heads. Inspire yourself from Tay K – the hustle never ends kkkomrade

>>2368034
Total Red State MIGA Death

>>2368055
yep
americans feast on the treats of their imperialist looting
it's good that yankees suffer now and then

>>2368021
>their own ideas
Yeah dude you have so much original ideas. Its all you man. All by yourself

if the big bill passes family gatherings on the 4th are going to be so annoying

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>>2368065
what if…. everyone's lives got better… instead of having "measuring scales of justice" thinking where one side must go up and other side must go down

>>2368055
It's not good but it is still the result of like a decade of tailist strategies from purported socialist orgs

>>2368077
ooga booga. you are borjwah ziopedo. me life can only get good if other life get bad

>>2368080
Socialist orgs don’t have an effect on this process in either direction

>>2368058
This is obvious. Most white folks in Florida are old boomers who retired there or the northern country types who had their brains rotted by the swamp air.


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