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>>2365975 >>2366771 You mean the guy advocating for a genocide against anyone speaks Spanish is also the owner of a site that had a guy shoot up a synagogue in the name of Trump, no fucking way
I thought conservative Americans were nice people whose dicks I should suck forever
>>2366766Insane how brown people moving and getting a job is an invasion but it's not an invasion when Americans do
>>2366729These guys really are sociopathic and trying to be nice with them is a death sentence
Flood detected
>>2366789He's correct but he's also deeply closeted
Unrelated to both, he should kill himself. Or preferably get killed.
>>2366815what a waste of archives
who wants to revisit yankee slop?!
>>2366818its based when china opens the market to USA but oh so horrible when Vietnam does it
the Viet comrade WILL drive a Ford, seethe and cope liberals
>>2366822don't worry
about a Qing
cause every little Xi
gonna be alright
>>2366806I guess I gotta ask: What's her angle
>The USA is not our ally because the aid for this war dried upor
<The USA is not our ally because they couped us and pushed us into a pointless war with fake promises of NATO membership >>2366833why not a bit of both
>>2366832The Transcontinential Army against the Ukrainian Proletarian National Self-Defence Army
>>2366788🇻🇳 💞 🇺🇸
United States of America and Socialist Republic of Vietnam BFF4EVR!
>>2366787He ran on not touching medicare, he is now actively destroying it
These people are just robots, zombies. Like cult members who wait for the end of the world, it doesnt come, and then use that as proof the cult is right. And the guys on top can lie like they breath. It comes natural to them
Literally what can you do with these people?
>>2366841KILL THE MUSK
THE TECHBRO
SHOOT TO KILL
MMMM PHAAA
BR TA TA
>>2366855mega based, apparently
I dont know tho
>>2366826America will slowly crumble and dissolve as a nation as people die one by one and this empire becomes a forgotten memory
If anyone does anything it will probably be a maga tard because they have all the guns, get angry extremely easily, and now this is something affecting them and they won't get their diabetes medication after eating at the Heart Attack Grill every night
>>2366777>Marxism-Leninism always leads to more capitalism.
>Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke? No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity. <Friedrich Engels, Principles of Communism, 1847
>To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies.<Engels, Letter to Otto Von Boenigk In Breslau, August 21, 1890
>Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it.<Karl Marx, Theses on Feuerbach, 1845
>[…] it is only possible to achieve real liberation in the real world by employing real means, that slavery cannot be abolished without the steam-engine and the mule and spinning-jenny, serfdom cannot be abolished without improved agriculture, and that, in general, people cannot be liberated as long as they are unable to obtain food and drink, housing and clothing in adequate quality and quantity. “Liberation” is an historical and not a mental act, and it is brought about by historical conditions, the development of industry, commerce, agriculture, the conditions of intercourse.<Karl Marx, The German Ideology, 1845-1846
>I have, which will surprise you not a little, been speculating—partly in American funds, but more especially in English stocks, which are springing up like mushrooms this year (in furtherance of every imaginable and unimaginable joint stock enterprise), are forced up to a quite unreasonable level and then, for the most part, collapse. In this way, I have made over £400 and, now that the complexity of the political situation affords greater scope, I shall begin all over again. It's a type of operation that makes small demands on one's time, and it's worth while running some risk in order to relieve the enemy of his money.<Karl Marx, Letter to Lion Philips. 25 June 1864, preserved in Marx-Engels Collected Works, Vol. 41
>Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.<Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875
>“No social order is ever destroyed before all the productive forces for which it is sufficient have been developed, and new superior relations of production never replace older ones before the material conditions for their existence have matured within the framework of the old society."<Karl Marx, from the preface to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy (1859)
>We made the mistake of deciding to go over directly to communist production and distribution. We thought that under the surplus-food appropriation system the peasants would provide us with the required quantity of grain, which we could distribute among the factories and thus achieve communist production and distribution […] brief experience convinced us that that line was wrong, that it ran counter to what we had previously written about the transition from capitalism to socialism, namely, that it would be impossible to bypass the period of socialist accounting and control in approaching even the lower stage of communism […] our theoretical literature has been definitely stressing the necessity for a prolonged, complex transition through socialist accounting and control from capitalist society (and the less developed it is the longer the transition will take) to even one of the approaches to communist society.>[…]>Get down to business, all of you! You will have capitalists beside you, including foreign capitalists, concessionaires and leaseholders. They will squeeze profits out of you amounting to hundreds per cent; they will enrich themselves, operating alongside of you. Let them. Meanwhile you will learn from them the business of running the economy, and only when you do that will you be able to build up a communist republic. Since we must necessarily learn quickly, any slackness in this respect is a serious crime. And we must undergo this training, this severe, stern and sometimes even cruel training, because we have no other way out.<Lenin, The New Economic Policy, 1921
>To make things even clearer, let us first of all take the most concrete example of state capitalism. Everybody knows what this example is. It is Germany. Here we have “the last word” in modern large-scale capitalist engineering and planned organization, subordinated to Junker-bourgeois imperialism. Cross out the words in italics, and in place of the militarist, Junker, bourgeois, imperialist state put also a state, but of a different social type, of a different class content; a Soviet state, that is, a proletarian state, and you will have the sum total of the conditions necessary for socialism. Socialism is inconceivable without large-scale capitalist engineering based on the latest discoveries of modern science. It is inconceivable without planned state organization, which keeps tens of millions of people to the strictest observance of a unified standard in production and distribution. We Marxists have always spoken of this, and it is not worth while wasting two seconds talking to people who do not understand even this (anarchists and a good half of the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries). At the same time socialism is inconceivable unless the proletariat is the ruler of the state. This also is ABC. And history (which nobody, except Menshevik blockheads of the first order, ever expected to bring about “complete” socialism smoothly, gently, easily and simply) has taken such a peculiar course that it has given birth in 1918 to two unconnected halves of socialism existing side by side like two future chickens in the single shell of international imperialism.<Lenin, “Left-Wing” Childishness, 1918
>For socialism is merely the next step forward from state-capitalist monopoly. Or, in other words, socialism is merely state-capitalist monopoly which is made to serve the interests of the whole people and has to that extent ceased to be capitalist monopoly.<Lenin, The Impending Catastrophe and How to Combat It, Section Titled: Can We Go Forward If We Fear To Advance Towards Socialism?, 1917
>The state capitalism, which is one of the principal aspects of the New Economic Policy, is, under Soviet power, a form of capitalism that is deliberately permitted and restricted by the working class. Our state capitalism differs essentially from the state capitalism in countries that have bourgeois governments in that the state with us is represented not by the bourgeoisie, but by the proletariat, who has succeeded in winning the full confidence of the peasantry. <Lenin, To the Russian Colony in North America, 14th November, 1922
>The Japanese elite knew their country to be one among many confronted by the dangers of conquest or subjection which they had faced in the course of a long history […] what is perhaps more important, the Japanese elite possessed a state apparatus and a social structure capable of controlling the movement of an entire society. To transform a country from above without risking either passive resistance, disintegration, or revolution is extremely difficult. The Japanese rulers were in the historically exceptional position of being able to mobilise a traditional mechanism of social obedience for the purposes of a sudden, radical, but controlled 'westernisation' […] the 'Meiji Restoration' […] a drastic 'revolution from above' […] The parallelism between Japan and Prussia has often been made. In both countries capitalism was formally installed not by bourgeois revolution [against feudal lords] but from above, by an old [feudal] bureaucratic-aristocratic order which recognised that its survival could not otherwise be assured.<Eric Hobsbawm, Age of Capital (1848-1875), Chapter 8 >>2366840Trump perfidiously has deceived the burgers.
As the bible says in proverbs 7:
21 With persuasive words she led him astray;
she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at once he followed her
like an ox going to the slaughter,
like a deer[a] stepping into a noose[b]
23 till an arrow pierces his liver,
like a bird darting into a snare,
little knowing it will cost him his life.
He has the mind of the antichrist, perhaps he is. Even the Papists say this
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2025/07/02/big-beautiful-bill-impact-immigrants-families-workers-251055 >>2366883People say the end started after 9/11
Old head's will say it was with the Vietnam War
Real g's will mention the Philippines and the original banana republics in the 1900s
True OGs will know that what the US did to native Americans was imperialism
No one gives a shit about shaw's rebellion and the US was already killing natives and backstabbing them beforehand so putting it this low is anachronistic
Deep down everyone knows this country should have never existed and nothing good came out of white people coming here
>>2366915oh so iron Felix is a try hard lumpen-hooligan
no surprise
now I want to see Houdini and Moffin'
>>2366920>lumpen-hooligan you have no idea how much he's going to tear into you for calling him that lol
<MY COMRADE WAS LITERALLY KNOCKED OVER BY ANARKKKIST LUMPEN HOOLIGANS LIKE YOURSELF I WILL SHOOT YOU etc etc
>>2366921you are a mass murdering Neocon
dont talk to me
>>2366925thanks for letting me know lmao
I will now call him this every time he posts
>>2366936no but it is still not fascism
everything that is bad is not fascism
typical yankee retarded 'lefty': everything I dont lys is faschismus
>>2366940I did not say to not call bad things bad
Bad things are bad
but bad things are not automatically fascism
learn how to read
>>2366950words must be used correctly and consciously
else we end up like americans
>>2366963tranquilo, hermano
te amo
>>2366961who do you even side in such a conflict
mexico needs a war with itself first
>>2366961They're going to nuke mexico man.
>t-they won't use nukesThey just secured 170 billion dollars to build concentration camps in every single state and fund a private military to do so. 170 billion is larger than the military budget of Russia (or multiple nations combined)
>>2366965yep.
Comrade William Paul Cockshott. A lighthouse of hope on the coast of neoliberal warmonger, facing the ocean of Yankee idpollers.
>>2366968ICE alone has become(this shit is gonna pass) the eight largest military, funded more than France's. And Trump, piss and a bullet be upon him, isnt afraid to use the military for himself.
Your predictions are the safest if you just accept the worst from these freaks.
>>2366976Depends if you look at something that will clearly kill the most vulnerable and powerless amerilards and clap and cheer it on
Are you fighting empire by forcing evryone with a Spanish last name into a death camp
>>2366977The $170 billion budget makes it the 3rd best funded military on earth going by 2024 numbers.
Israel will break the nuclear taboo (that's why they're getting B-2s) and the USA will use it to punish canada/mexico freely.
At best Europe/China will tariff the USA in retribution, and that's if they don't decide to just keep their heads down.
Stalin has been thoroughly vindicated. We are living through the blackest reaction.
>>2366997I believe it adds some nice imagery to the schizo reality of Trump's America
It contributes to the mood
>>2367011they advertise on indeed alot
I report every ad I see
>>2367016among the whites in Argentina à la David Pakman
you know, concentration camps is a family business for them
>>2367017Those were in the death camps, which Auschwitz was.
The internment camps that are being set up now are essentially just slave plantations in all but name, rather than nazi work camps.
The constitution literally defends slavery as a punishment for crime.
>>2367015You're awfully naive
Horribly naive. The insane number they have means theyre gonna use people as disposable cogs.
>>2367011They're deputizing random citizens
Bunch of random guys with white nationalist type tattoos, just any racist retard like those grunts the Nazis used
>>2367011discord, 4chan, kiwifarms, sharty, shooting ranges, etc.
The usual "build your own mass shooter" farms. They can probably pull from MAGA rallies, local neonazi groups, and proud boys too. "get paid a cop's salary to torture-murder some libs" is a chud's dream.
>>2367031Trump and/or others have openly talked about deputizing citizens, look it up. They are grabbing any racist willing to work with them already.
If they're somehow also recruitinf 4channers and kiwi farmerss and other sites every faggot redditor defends as quirky chungus internet superheroes, then I wouldn't be surprised
>>2367034>Trump and/or others have openly talked about deputizing citizens, look it up.well if trump said then it MUST be true
the average imageboard user is a skinnyfat autist who can't do a single pushup
they recruit from places they've always recruited from; former military, security guards, blue collar jobs, etc.
>If they're somehow also recruitinf 4channers and kiwi farmerss and other sites every faggot redditor defends as quirky chungus internet superheroesWhat the fuck are you talking about. Touch grass, you child.
>>2367033interesting that the conservatives who want to protect the white race and the traditional family have been moving heaven and earth lately (cracking down on DEI, LGBT stuff etc), but NO ONE, NOT ONE SOUL spoke about attacking interracial cuck porn.
Really makes me fink…
>>2367041fdr did not give a fuck
which is why he did not bitch about Katyn to stalin
he understood sometimes collective punishment is based and necessary
>>2367053hopefully to cuba
although the cuban communists have always been extremely forgiving so they'd probably send him back
>>2366793Most people are pragmatists. I remember months ago some third worldist was arguing that using any kind of patriotic imagery was “bad” because “at least half of everyone here hates America so they’d be turned off by the flag” and then I looked up the stats and IIRC even black people (a group we fucked over to no end, mind you) were majority patriotic in some sense. Shit even Native Americans are generally patriotic IIRC.
I fucking guarantee that if America ended the blockade tomorrow and resumed normal relations with Cuba we’d have good relations despite the history. Third worldists just want us to be weighed down by the ghosts of past generations.
>>2366795Admittedly I’m biased cause I genuinely hate third worldists, but I think the more likely outcome for them is that they become some insane insular cult that inevitably ends up destroying itself or getting purged when the fighting stops. Like you’ve got Felix screeching “we’re gonna execute anyone who disagrees with me after the revolution” but it’s usually ideological zealots who get got first.
>>2367057> if America ended the blockade tomorrowthat's the point, you won't
and I cannot expect you to change anything about it as you're too pussy moaning about how hot it is in your region
>>2367060You’re a coward by your own standards given you don’t do anything but complain other people aren’t blowing up buildings for you. Seriously I can think of nothing more pathetic than whining that it’s cowardice not to be shooting the first person you see, but living the same decadent life you bitch about others having.
It’s the left wing equivalent of a homophobic preacher sucking off dudes in the men’s room.
>>2367045Unironically they are moving to make all porn sites ID people in order to find the degenerate gooners and send them to labor camps. For their own good of course.
>>2367043>former military, security guards, blue collar jobs, etc.Many of the younger ones are pol posters who think they will end up rich businessmen. If only the commies didn't keep them down!
>>2367060Obama and the neoliberal Democrats actually started normalizing relations but the Cuban Republicans threw a fit and put a stop to it.
>>2367118I did not ask anyone to blow up buildings
you are deranged
>obama normalizing cuba you are deranged if you believe that
>>2367052So you're admitting you like death camps?
>>2367053He's too useful and I think people forget he's hispanic
Would be funny if he got executed in Cuba tho but Cuba has always been to fucking soft, so they won't
>>2367108This would've been popping(get like 500 members) in 2016
Who the fuck wants "centrism" at this point? More young people came out to vote in the NYC mayoral primary for Mamdani than they did for the 2024 election
Centrism for people in the know is just rightoid bullshit, and for the average person is cringe faggot nerdshit that won't help anyone. Even the retards who say "the problem isn't left or right, it's the rich!" are still showcasing leftist leaning positions
>>2367159Cuomo was the choice of low-income earners from wealth based stats
Cuomo was the choice of African-americans and hispanics from idpol stats
Mamdani is counter revolutionary scum supported by rich hoonky and rich asians
Cuomo: Revolution Betrayed >>2367159I think it's funny because the aunties and uncs that voted for cuomo are just gonna vote for Zohran because they're some of the true "blue no matter who" types
>MARXIST ACID Garrison is a le acid communist?
>>2367168whomever you are bitching about
you, poor American, who is living as an oppressed nation in a fascist government lol
>>2367177Trump killed the cuban thaw as he took office the first time
Biden waited for the last moment of his 4 years to reinstate it, knowing that trump is the next prez and that he's gonna kill it again
CPUSA, do better
>>2367108This was already tried in the UK 2016 when Corbyn took over the Labour Party. Several 'big-name' members of parliament defected to create their own centrist party. i can't even remember what it was called, which is how successful it was.
In the year 2025 i can't see this being even more popular.
>>2367196we do not cry because Gaddafi died
we cry because what Lybia became after him
we cry because it was not done for better, but for NATO interests
>>2367188The only thing you are saying is Trump is an idiot. He ignored the earlier American success of bribing Vietman because he wanted to play strongman.
India is another perfect example of the bribery process working. This "socialist" country is completely under America's control. Third-worldism is a failure.
>>2367212Aaron Bushnell did the only good thing a troop or an anarchist can ever do (die) and even then he fucked it up and made it about him instead of doing something that would have materially benefitted the cause like fragging his officers.
All in all, I'm glad he's dead but he was no hero.
>>2367134>can’t define treats>cant define the global south>can’t even prove half the global south hates usEven if they did who gives a fuck, they wouldn’t be fighting in our revolution. They can pound sand.
>>2367125Oh yeah, you’re doing the Jordan Peterson thing where you don’t ever define your position so you can just criticize without having expectations put on you.
>>2367218"Our" revolution?
What revolution is that, exactly? The only revolution CPUSA would fight in would be a fascist revolution.
>>2367118That's what all these fuckers are like, they rage that other people don't martyr themselves because they hate themselves for not having the balls to die like a moron. That's how it always is.
Damn folks maybe it's because both firsties and thirdies alike are generally smart enough to know that ineffectually martyring yourself as an adventurist just makes you a counterproductive moron
>>2367245But it can be ignored.
And it will be.
>>2367247Well the good part is it is ap. So it will be republished by dozens of outlets that they work if not more
For example if you Google "US contractors say their colleagues are firing live ammo as Palestinians seek food in Gaza" you will find countless news publications that already reposted it
>>2367252Once again, they did worse almost every night in Iraq and Afghanistan and absolutely no one cares and nothing changed.
The vast majority of Americans are willing and enthusiastic collaborators and the sooner you realize this the better.
>>2367261nobody worships Gaddafi
you make up stuff in your head
>>2367254true
the poster below you is rejoicing at Gaddafi's death
Libya is 1000 worse post-Gaddafi than anything trump could do, but the fascist American only cares about his online discourse
>>2367264>>2367261How about everybody in this thread actually engage in good faith like grown adults instead of trying to be the edgiest teen in the room?
You people make this thread an insufferable experience for no good discernible reason
>>2367108This whole thing sounds like a way for the Democratic Party to completely cut out its progressive wing without actually kicking progressives out, and as a way for them to solidly maintain a base of Never Trump Republicans they so desperately tried to appeal to in 2024.
The Kamala campaign as a political party…
>>2367225Third worldists, yknow, they’re always going on about “oh I bet you LIKE seeing kids die” and I’ve got to wonder at this point if it’s like how you get all these conservatives who are “against” pedophilia, they get into Q anon, and then surprise surprise it turns out they’ve got CP on their phones. That happened with one of the Jan 6ers at least, and he’s arguing now that it’s “fruit of the poisonous tree” and trying to say his pardon applies to that stuff. There was a GOP state rep that got busted for child trafficking recently, and he was a big “moms for liberty” type whose shtick was “the trans are gonna groom your kids”
I’m starting to wonder if maybe part of it is third worldists have a genuine fetish for watching brown people die. Think about it; doesn’t the way they talk sound a little perverse? They’ll go on and on in gory detail talking about foreign people being raped or dominated in some way. Like it wouldn’t really shock me if some of these guys have a gore folder.
I mean if they actually cared they’d do something. They keep telling everyone else to, after all. They keep saying not dropping everything is proof we enjoy what’s happening overseas. To me that seems like a bit of a confession. They’re watching murder with the same perverse giddiness of a guy who’s favorite movie is A Serbian Film.
>>2367275>They keep saying not dropping everything is proof we enjoy what’s happening overseas. To me that seems like a bit of a confession. It's projection plus bad-faith. They hew to:
>1. Drop everything and martyr yourself >2. Everyone knows what happens#2 is just fucking wrong on its face given how much of a shock the ongoing genocide in Gaza was to the TikTok generation and the swing in public opinion in generated - that shit doesn't happen in a culture in which people are *already* aware of this, #1 always makes me go "Okay, you first, dickwad"
>>2367279The DSSA is perfectly fine with American imperialism they just oppose the inequal distribution of the loot and super profits among Americans.
The DSSA accepts Lenins theory of imperialism as true but does not want to change it
>>2367189>>2367108This
A third party for enlightened centrism reminds me of some goofy shit Carl Benjamin would have done.
>>2367279>>2367282Another thing is that people grow up hearing horrible shit on the tv constantly. You learn to deal with it cause you can’t just spend all your life weeping every time there’s a school shooting, but third worldists insist it should be cause enough for you to throw yourself under the treads of a tank just knowing it’s happening somewhere.
But beyond that; you’ve got Felix as a case example. When Putin declared war on Ukraine he actually came on a picture of Putin and posted it publicly. He keeps saying that Russia should use nukes on Ukraine’s populace. Every other post is him fantasizing about all the ways he can murder people.
Now I’m no therapist, but it seems to me that he’s got a psychosexual fascination with death and war.
>>2367309American centrists are the same.
>>2367324I never said Putin should nuke Ukraine. I said should recognize this war as an existential threat to Russia's existence and fight for real. That involves mobilizing for a total war instead of the ridiculous nerf war he insists on fighting now.
Keep my name out of your mouth in the future, unless you want a gun barrel in it.
>>2367326Probably didn't happen, definitely should have.
>>2367328Gaddafi suffered an excruciatingly awful death, accusing people of “rejoicing in his death” really sounds suspect to me. Gotta wonder if Felix watched the live leak video; I don’t have the stomach for that stuff—but if we’re talking about a guy who busted a load on a pic of Putin at the mere thought of a war being declared? Wouldn’t surprise me.
Shit, ain’t a lot of shit with serial killers them acting out sexually violent fantasies? Pretty sure it was with the Zodiac at least. And Felix does have a lot of violent fantasies.
>>2367332I mean Republicans literally run on:
>YOU VILL RECEIVE NUZZING>UNT YOU VILL BE HAPPY!It should be so easy to run against. The only argument they have is the government is going to give it to illegals and raise your taxes. But still, just be like, I'm objectively going to raise the amount the amount your tax dollars come back to you the tax paying citizen. Where the fuck is 10 trillion dollars a year fucking going?
>>2367334You do realize Cucktin hasn't declared war on Ukraine right? He's still fighting a limited special military operation, not a war.
The Cuck SHOULD declare war and fight for real, but he hasn't.
I have to say, the standard of education at Quantico these days has really fallen off.
>>2367357And of course with all job offers these days being fake or for MLMs there's no chance of any of the newly unemployed getting another job except maybe working minimum wage and having to move back into their parents' house. Dont have parents anymore? Hope you have friends to live with. Friends cant accommodate you? Then die.
Meanwhile 19 out of every 20 houses is either unoccupied or being used as an AirBNB
>>2367347It fucks over so many people they are all angling for exemptions and delays like Alaska
>>2367348>leftists won't say that Israel has a parasitical relationship with the USA America controls most governments in the Middle East from Saudi Arabia to Iraq, yet for some magical reason USA has to give Israel all their money and guns?
Imperialism alone doesn't explain this.
>>2367315lol do not compare macron to de gaulle lmao
de Gaulle, despite all his flaws, actually cared about France's sovereignty and independence. Macron is an American banker.
French people would actually laugh out loud if they hear macron compared to de gaulle
>>2366702>>2366801The VietCucks have embraced levels of Capitalist Roader Social Fascist Revisionism that should not even be possible (it is especially disgusting considering the fact that U$ Imperialists and their Comprador Bourgeois Capitalist Puppet Regime in “South Vietnam” Murdered 3 Million Vietnamese between 1955 and 1975, 2 Million of which were Innocent Civilians and 1 Million of which were brave Communist Revolutionary soldiers, with all of their deaths essentially being for absolutely Fucking nothing as the “Communist” government they fought and died to put in power in 1975 has officially decided to become “South Vietnam” with a Red Flag, 😂🤣🤢🤮!) as this Cucked Quisling “To Lam” U$ Puppet Pet “Communist” is so pathetic in his Social Fascist Revisionism that he even makes Deng and Xi look like Mao, and Khrushchev and Brezhnev look like Lenin and Stalin, respectively, so I think it is fair to say that unlike the Revisionist State Capitalist/Social Democratic Social Imperialist PRC, which should still be “Critically Supported” against U$ Imperialism, and where their is still a theoretical pathway for a Maoist faction to takeover the CCP and purge the Dengists in order to return China to the Socialist Mode of Production (their are rumors that even Xi himself may be sympathetic to this Maoist faction and is currently hiding his power level for the right opportunity to make a full break with Dengist Revisionism and restore Socialism), their is Zero reason to “Critically Support” Social Fascist Revisionist Vietnam, as they do not even play the “Controlled Opposition” role against U$ Imperialism that China currently does and their is Zero chance of a Maoist faction taking over the CPV, so I instead encourage the Working Class of Vietnam to wage an immediate Maoist PPW to overthrow the Social Fascist Revisionist CPV and restore Socialism in Vietnam (I also “Critically Support” the PLA launching an immediate “Special Military Operation” to seize control of all disputed VietCuck-Occupied Islands in the South China Sea, and to provide Close Air Support, Arms shipments, a No-Fly Zone, and even launch a potential Ground Invasion, to aid the future Maoist PPW to overthrow the Social Fascist Revisionist CPV), 😂🤣🤢🤮✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2367385Ever noticed how despite the fact that these nerds have been stalking me for years, none of them can actually post that picture?
Strange, isn't it?
>>2367364There’s always the gig economy lmao so that’s about it lol. The civil service jobs are cut. Workforce development cut. Jobcorp cut. Unemployment benefits cut. Snap cut. Medicare and Medicaid cut. I guarantee that the private sector cannot absorb all those people. Which is what socialism for the rich really is all about. The private sector will be forever in high debt so the government transfers all our tax dollars to the rich to makeup for their debts. I suspect the real economy is gonna lag far behind the asset economy even more than it has been in the past. This means lower tax revenue, and with a cut child tax credit then having children will be even more unaffordable so no new babies to makeup the demand for tax revenue.
Honestly Yanis Varoufakis had a point. We are entering a feudal economy where folks are in permanent indenture to the corporations. Because there really is no other way to continue shit with so much unemployment and not much new tax base, just an aging one, the boomers are dying and that’ll be it really. Either we’re into a collapse that leads to neo-feudalism or a collapse that leads to socialism.
>>2367391No cucktin could and should be decapitating the Ukrainian government but he refuses to even strike at their military leaders, all of whom are valid targets under the laws of war that Russia insists on even after Ukraine stopped following them long ago.
The fact that the SBU is still in tact is just evidence of how utterly cucked The Cuck is.
>>2367416Found pretty much the place where the saga starts in the archives when he lost the best.
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/565258.htmlThat one was numbered 74 and it doesn't seem that 75 and 76 are in the archive when he posted it and I even posted it as the OP for one of them.
>>2367428third worldists are overrepresented online because it's the default position of misanthropes that just want to talk down to others without providing solutions or doing any work.
irl the kinda people who have enough revolutionary will to show up to protests or join a marxist org probably isn't a misanthrope.
>>2367409if she loses vision, she cannot see liberals anymore
so its a win?
>>2367387>Ever noticed how despite the fact that these nerds have been stalking me for years, none of them can actually post that picture? This is what you get for calling me a liar.
https://archive.is/zcdVU Unfortunately the full size hasn't isn't archived. Just the thumbnail.
>>2367433>why did your family flee communism<they owned the factories / they were part of the (bourgeois personal army here) / they were a fucking porky bitchevery
time
>>2367435that's it then
Iron Felix you are a degenerate and I do not want to hear from you again
I can also see from that archive that leftypol threads were much more entertaining back then
did the constant fizzling kill the life here?!
>>2367435from this archive I also learned that Iron Felix is a Khr*shevite
How low can this man be
fucking disgusting
he can't be in my social circle anymore
>>2367435My Dear President Putin,
I wanted to tell you that I am delighted you have taken an interest in me. And when I learned of your vast correspondence I thought "Dare I?" Of course I do. I don't believe you would tell them who I am, even if you knew. Besides, what particular body I now occupy is trivial. The important thing is what I am BECOMING. I know that you alone can understand this. I have some things I'ld love to show you. Someday perhaps, if circumstances permit. I hope we can correspond…
I have admired you for years and have a complete collection of you press notices. Actually, I think of them as unfair reviews, As unfair as mine. They like to sling demeaning nicknames don't they? The Tooth Fairy. What could be more inappropriate?! It would shame me for you to see that if i had not known you have suffered the same distortions in the press. Investgator CPUSAnoj interests me. Odd-looking fellow for a flat-foot, isn't he? Not very handsome, but purposeful looking. You should have taught him not to meddle. Forgive the stationary. I chose it because it will dissolve very quickly if you have to swallow it.
If I hear from you, maybe next time I'll send you something wet. Until then I remain, your Avid Fan.
>>2367446I am no Khrushchevite but I recognize that reforms to GOSPLAN were necessary. As did everyone else in the USSR at the time.
The excesive bureaucratization of GOSPLAN was recognized as early as the 1920s but the USSR couldn't change until after the war.
>>2367393>We are entering a feudal economy where folks are in permanent indenture to the corporations. Not sure how this is supposed to function for very long. Peasants had to produce food and nobles needed them to produce the food. But with modern tech the Bourgeoisie only need a fraction of the population now if they want to live like kings.
The unemployed are not going to get any loans either as they have no income so the only way for it to work is too kill off almost everyone.
>>2367454Yeah, real proles are getting healthy meals from their personal chief while playing golf, polo and swimming on their private beach for exercise.
>>2367421What about me is “broke” as my Effort Post on the Sad State of Social Fascist Revisionist Vietnam at
>>2367386 is one of my Classic Dialectical Materialist Analysis Effort Posts as my fellow Comrades at
>>2367395 ,
>>2367417 , and
>>2367434 note, and my post at
>>2367407 highlights why Green Day’s American Idiot is the Greatest Album of the 21st Century which makes sharp In-Depth Critiques of the U$ Culture War, U$ Imperialist Foreign Policy, and the Inauthentic Contrarian nature of the Petit Bourgeois/Labor Aristocrat White “Left”, as noted by my Fellow Comrade at
>>2367408 , ✊😜🎸 🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️🤔?
>>2367433Whether or not the Revisionists keep coping about it by desperately denying his Genius Dialectical Materialist Analysis rooted in the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, it dose not negate the fact that the prominent Maoist Black Nationalist YouTuber Black Red Guard is the greatest living U$ Communist, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2367219>>2367226This shit happens daily and they just take it like the little bitches they are and say they always wanted it
One example, a guy who made a video about how Lincoln was evil and deserved to be shot says Lincoln wanted tariffs and his only motivations were tariffs
You can already assume his tone shift once Trump came back a year or two later
>>2367225>self-hatingI prefer the white guys licking Black Hebrew shoes
These guys however come off like they're cynically using third-worldist talking points to defend reactionaries and far rightoids in the US, because they know white guys won't be the most effected(though they still will be)
>>2367239>>2367245If you're familiar with racist high school drop outs on /pol/, then you are unironically already familiar with how the zionist response will be
"Didn't happen, should've happen, okay it did happen but they deserved it anyways [distraction 1] [distaction 2] [distraction 3]"
Watching how these people talk about their crimes is literally like watching /pol/ or some racists discuss literally every other genocide in history, it's all the same shit, these people are all the same
>>2367481If you say so
For me, I can absolutely smell some cynicism and un seriousness in them, they're being malicious
It's why they attack the people who say they don't like what's going on the most
>>2367490You don't take my word for it.
>>2365683Latest thread, 93 posts already. Not a single post of gore. Not a single of combat footage even. It's not very captivating watching combat footage when you've seen like 100s of them already.
>Wow another explosionIt's too mundane to post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i496kXuXveYso massie flipped to no.
lol the circus wont end
>>2367483Oh, see I get that. I detect some cynicism too; my problem is more this idea that it’s “cynically using third worldism” when I see cynicism at the root of third worldism. It’d be like saying someone is “cynically using MAGA” when, let’s be real, MAGA was born from cynicism.
Third worldism is just a way for some narcissistic personalities to pretend they’re “better leftists” by either an accident of birth (your Black Hammer groups, for example) or by insinuating everyone else is actually drinking baby’s blood. Shit, one guy wrote an essay critiquing settlers and third worldists responded by calling him a racist then demanding he pay them money for the emotional labor of being “educated by black and brown revolutionaries”. The “oh these are white guys who are secretly using this cause they know white people will be fine” bit is silly if you ask me. Inasmuch as white people are aware third worldists exist, most white guys would want to smack the shit out of them. We don’t claim them; they’re basically what black republicans are to black men.
>>2367512Its also one of the increasingly correct redpills right now. The predictions while not exactly right are still fitting the general trajectory of where we are going.
>because it makes both the right and left uncomfortableNo one wants to accept modern civilization will collapse tbf.
>>2367512>>2367487I think Malthusianism and all that is obviously objectively true. The resources of this Earth are objectively limited and I don't believe in space colonization. That said we could easily live in Eden. As we've seen population growth easily controls itself in advanced societies with no intervention. We could easily use our resources to make sure everyone has what they need on the whole hierarchy of needs. We should obviously be killing everyone with a yacht and all that.
The internet is really the devil isn't it. It only make people more interested in living vicariously through icons.
>Oh wowww that guy has something amazing and gets to enjoy it!>This makes me so happyyy!Why are people so stupid? I need to think about this more but this is really one of the greatest mental follies of man is vicarious enjoyment of "obscene enjoymen.t"
>>2367515The sad reality is that every retard can nitpick critical stances to death because they're not perfect. People will neener neener about how the doomers were wrong because some retard said it would be venus by 2010 one hundred years ago, even though it's +1.5 - 2.0 C already (a trajectory that exceeds even the most hysterical doomer scientists' predictions).
You can always huff copium and move the goalposts because you aren't truly EVER wrong for le redditor hopepill so long as life itself isn't extinct, and if life DOES go extinct, you don't ever have to be held accountable
>>2367520>even though it's +1.5 - 2.0 C already (a trajectory that exceeds even the most hysterical doomer scientists' predictions).>You can always huff copium and move the goalposts because you aren't truly EVER wrong for le redditor hopepill so long as life itself isn't extinct, and if life DOES go extinct, you don't ever have to be held accountableYes 100 percent this. A sad truth but still 100 percent correct.
Its grim. Very grim
>>2367521*You mean more of us in swing states
I didn't vote for her, but there was no way in hell she was going to win my state. It doesn't matter and I'm through playing into the charade.
Report: Removing Hamas from power a condition for Saudi normalization
Saudi Arabia is insisting that Israel finish the job in Gaza by removing Hamas from power completely in the coastal enclave as a precondition for a normalization agreement with the Jewish State, a Saudi source told i24NEWS.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410973According to the report, the Saudi government hopes the Palestinian Authority, led by Mahmoud Abbas, will be restored to power in Gaza after the fall of the Hamas government.
The report is the first indication that ending the war now instead of continuing until Hamas is completely defeated may jeopardize efforts to secure normalization accords with Arab and Muslim nations and the Trump Administration's efforts to expand the Abraham Accords.
>>2367462Current AI has already wiped out lots of bureaucratic jobs especially in HR. One low level clerk can now do the work of several people just a few years ago. Customer service phone lines are quickly becoming an AI voice reading a script. Youtube and Tiktok already have plenty of AI generated content. Lots of low end service jobs have already disappeared.
>>2367518The obsession with getting more funko pops was always absurd but people kept saying how everyone loves it so much socialism must have it. But now we can give those hoarders worthless stuff to collect in socialist made video games instead. No manufacturing cost beyond design and coding.
>>2367528I doubt it's empathy. Some are smart enough to know one of their constituents will get cancer and kill them next time they try going to a church picnic. Rich republicans and senators have bodyguards but random representatives are lucky to have some police standing around at a rally.
>>2367521I still stand by my Dialectical Materialist position on the 2024 election that if you were in the 7 Swing States of PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ, GA, and NC, you should have held your nose and Voted for Harris as the Lesser Evil Left-Liberal Controlled Opposition to the Greater Evil Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist Trump (The only people I give a pass for voting Third Party or Sitting out in the Swing States are the Dearborn Arabs, due to the fact that Harris was complicit in the Genocide of their relatives, and the “Lesser Evil” argument rings very Fucking hollow, if that “Lesser Evil” was responsible for the Death of your Family members), but if you were in a Safe Blue State or Safe Red State, you should have voted for Jill Stein in protest of the Biden/Harris administrations complicity on the Zionist Genocide of Gaza, like I did in California, but if I was in one of the 7 Swing States I would have held my nose and voted for Harris without a second thought, and as Cringe as it sounds I was rooting hard for Her on election night, for the same reason I Critically Support the Lesser Evil of State Capitalist/Social Democratic Social Imperialist China (their is still a theoretical pathway for a Maoist faction to takeover the CCP and purge the Dengists in order to return China to the Socialist Mode of Production) against the Greater Evil of U$ Imperialism, because despite the fact that I am a staunch Maoist, I still recognize the Material reality that a Controlled Opposition is better then No Opposition, not because a Maoist like me genuinely supports these Bourgeois entities, but because they are “Lesser Evil” factions of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System who De Facto prevent the “Greater Evil” of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System from completely crushing the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World before the World Maoist PPW can be successful when the Global Nuclear War breaks out, thus creating a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2367533B-but what about the ummah!?
>>2367557>disability for traumaIs this a Western Europe thing?
>>2367565fizzle. They have no power over the US and Trump won't just let them go if he has something to keep them.
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=039425&title=houdini-goes-local-imperialism-comes-homeHOUDINI Goes Local // Imperialism Comes Home
2025-07-02
Alligator Auschwitz, Alligator Alcatraz — it's all over the headlines, but it's not really anything new. That is the sad truth of the matter. This is not new.
Does anyone remember reports of his directives ordering forced sterilizations happening to women in ICE detention centers, as they're called? Surgeons removing body parts and organs from women to prevent them from having children. This has been confirmed to have happened. When it happened, do you think it stopped? When it happened, do you think there was an investigation? No. Of course not.
The Alligator Alcatraz story is mostly spectacle manifesting itself. This is continuous. It has not stopped. This policy has been in place for over a decade. These internment sites are ramping up. It has been happening. It will continue to happen.
When we see drones used to survey and mark people as kill targets in Gaza, when we see aid distribution centers used as kill boxes, and when members of our police departments and immigrant enforcement agencies travel to Israel to train with those who are conducting mass killings in Gaza — using weapons created and sent by America — we must ask: how long until that violence comes home? How long until the fact that it has already arrived is noticed?
Because it has already arrived. How many people will die in the swamps of Florida in this concentration camp? People will die. They are building a concentration camp with funds relocated from emergency hurricane support funds. Your rural hospital is shutting down while they're laying concrete for internment sites. That's the tradeoff. That's imperialism.
We are already living in occupied territory. They are preparing for repression, accelerating even, preparing to detain tens of thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands, and send them to these camps and black sites outside the country.
We must ask ourselves in our communities: are we prepared for that level of repression? Because it will start with immigrants, then move up the chain — political dissenters, queer people, homeless people, the poor, the needy. Anyone who can be labeled a problem will be "solved" with their own final solution.
These are the hard questions we must ask. We are living in unprecedented times. We have been living in unprecedented times. We are only just now starting to see the shape of the noose.
This is why gatherings like the July 4th event HOUDINI Magazine helped organize is so important. All profits from the event will go to two organizations: a local Florida group fighting for immigrant rights, and the Palestinian Red Crescent Society. The struggles in Palestine are the struggles in our own communities against ICE. When politicians talk about stripping healthcare from the poorest among us while gorging themselves at the trough like greedy pigs, feasting on the bones and bile of the colonized abroad, understand — that's by design. That's imperialism at work.
They've already priced out the value of killing in Gaza. The value of denying healthcare. The value of abducting immigrants. The value of closing hospitals. The value of social murder. It's all on the ledger. And the profits from this event will go to those who resist that — to the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, real medics who've been mercilessly targeted by the imperialist regime.
HOUDINI Magazine reached across every available line to get the word out. Tampa DSA. Lakeland Mutual Aid. Miami PSL. We extended our hand to every socialist-adjacent organization in the region. Because common ground must be built. Space for cooperation must be carved out.
A United Front must be formed. We must work to strengthen our communities. We must work to rebuke imperialism. We must defeat the anti-life regime.
>>2367562Pennsylvania
>>2367563I'll use my suffering as proof to my family that relying on bourgeois democracy leads to screwing everyone over.
>>2367502Was gonna write up a long response but I lost it; so the short and quick of it is I view black Americans as just as American as the rest of us. To me, America is a homeland, not a motherland; we all come from different corners of the world to live here; it should never be limited to one race or faith.
However as it stands at present there’s a bizarre dual nature to race in America where the flaws are racialized but the good aspects of it are cloaked in the whole nation.
I am an extremist, a communist (not communistic, a communist), and I must be destroyed or I will join my comrades in the only communist party in this country, the Black Panther Party. I will give them my all, every dirty fighting trick in the annals of war. Nothing will defeat our revenge and nothing will countervail our march to victory. We come to our conclusion: the only historical recourse that is left to us. Freedom means warmth and protection against harsh exposure to the elements. It means food, not garbage. It means truth, harmony, and the social relations that spring from these. It means the best medical attention whenever it’s needed. It means employment that is reasonable, that coincides with the individual necessities and feelings. We will have this freedom even at the cost of total war.
–George Jackson, Blood in my Eye
>>2367577But what do you mean? Did you see my
post series:
>>2367535There is nothing better about provincialism.
>>2367595>to correct this a day doesn't it? *in a day.
I'm not fucking with this endless liberal academic faggotry.
>>2367501>demanding more weapons to be sent to Ukrainebased
>before moving forward with the billdeath to america
>>2367715>Bowie: Christ, everything is a media manipulation. I'd love to enter politics. I will one day. I'd adore to be Prime Minister. And, yes, I believe very strongly in fascism. The only way we can speed up the sort of liberalism that's hanging foul in the air at the moment is to speed up the progress of a right-wing, totally dictatorial tyranny and get it over as fast as possible. People have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership. A liberal wastes time saying, "Well, now, what ideas have you got?" Show them what to do, for God's sake. If you don't, nothing will get done. I can't stand people just hanging about. Television is the most successful fascist, needless to say. Rock stars are fascists, too. Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.hwnbag
>>2367718absconding Gehenna
>>2367720coke, but both are petit-bourg as well
>>2367724>Ge*hen"na (g�*hĕn"n�), n. [L. Gehenna, Gr. Ge`enna, Heb. Gē Hinnōm.] (Jewish Hist.) The valley of Hinnom, near Jerusalem, where some of the Israelites sacrificed their children to Moloch, which, on this account, was afterward regarded as a place of abomination, and made a receptacle for all the refuse of the city, perpetual fires being kept up in order to prevent pestilential effluvia.<In the New Testament the name is transferred, by aneasy metaphor, to Hell. Unique IPs: 90