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What the fuck is happening in Chile and why is socialism having a comeback there. Did the working class just decide that shitlibbery and being right-wing is cringe?
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>>2382826
what is that supposed to mean

>>2383228
so you're saying Pinochet was better than Allende for the left in this country? holy shit you're retarded

>>2383714
>t. german, 1933

>>2383717
Yes but until you have emboldened the class consciousness of people and strengthened the revolutionary movement through electoralism you will be left with a revolution with no vanguard

>>2383727
>people invoked fascism before it even existed
fascism is not an ideology, but a material reality of capitalism in crisis, read fascism and social revolution

>>2383732
>The proletariat is not dumb
The proletariat will share in the consciousness of the bourgeoisie until the conditions are unbearable and revolution is the only necessity.

>>2383738
>this is why it can happen multiple times
It can and has.
> I conveniently defined it in abstract liberal terms
No, just a definition accepted by the Comintern in the 1930s.
>Capitalism in decay
That is the shortened down, overly simplified version of what was written in Fascism and Social Revolution.

>>2383732
A lot of revolutionaries were radicalized by the Bernie ratfuck. Like it or not democracy is part of the popular political consciousness

times leftypol has celebrated even a nanometre of progress: 0

>>2383744
>Can you explain what the fuck this actually means in practice?
Yeah, the left went from "six feet under" to "very small group of political cranks nobody thinks about".

>>2383744
>Communism is not about "the masses".
Undialectical and commandist hogwash, if you aren't in constant contact with """""the masses""""" you are just a larper

>>2383750
There should be no leftists until the revolution is here! Nobody should eat until everyone's full!

>>2383762
>there should be no leftists
average anti electoralist

>>2383762
>>2383763
The average anti electorialist wouldn’t have added “until the revolution”. They simply would have added a period after leftist.

>socialism
>elections
choose one
<inb4 but *out of context quote that was walked back on*
ok now link me prove that the electorlist party has underground illegal organzation

>>2383807
Liberal truth nuke

Marxists are against leftism (liberalism)

>>2383750
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>>2383744
Since when are communists against democracy? Communism is the most democratic ideology there is, because it expands democracy to the workplace.

>>2383976
Me when I get my theory from Hakim and Wolff

>>2383980
Democracy ≠ bourgeois democracy

>>2383984
you'll NEVER get me to vote. EVER

>>2383984
Read Marx

>>2383993
>>2383996
TIL most communist parties aren't actually communist because they practice "democratic centralism".

>>2383997
see >>2383966

>>2383202
I've seen leftcoms arguing that communists shouldn't use the term "radical" because it originally referred to Jacobinism, these people are more concerned with pointless semantic debates than actually doing anything meaningful.

>>2383997
>"democratic centralism"
semantics

Lenin viewed democracy as a flexible method of organization, not an eternal truth. He was against democracy in principle as he was for abolishing class, the state itself and their superstructure. The proof of this is in democratic method being relegated to workers councils and unions, and no essential party affairs.

>>2383202
>I swear ultras would rather a fascist took power than a demsoc.

Why did you write socdem twice?

>>2384005
what do you mean when people say radicals in 2025 they don't mean the literal French républicains radicaux? "leftist" also still means "jacobinite liberal" even d& it changed meaning in the 19th century

>>2384005
>>2384019
Silly ultras, we should call our opposition 'reds' and 'unlawful' next, that will show them.

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Kaiser is basically like a 4chan /pol/ youtuber, Kast is an actual nazi and Mathei has always been a pinochetista.

I dont give a fuck if Jara is a lib or whatever the hell you guys thing, I'd vote for a literal inert rock over those 3 demons. I'm already poor enough with rotting teeth and unable to pay for my transhumanist shit. If one of those fascists come to power and we get austerity there's a serious chance I fucking die. Get real. You people care way too fucking much about purity or terminology nobody gives a fuck about.

>>2384048
All of this is even more ridiculous when you realize that we have right before our eyes a fucking ancap psycho as a neighbor, the example of Bolsonaro in Brazil and also whatever the shit Trump is doing.
"Elections don't matter" my ass, i still remember how some leftist ""intellectuals"" claimed that Milei was gonna govern the same way as Fernandez/Massa, now they look like clowns.

>You people care way too fucking much about purity or terminology nobody gives a fuck about.
Remember, this is leftypol. This site gathers the weirdest people of leftist ideologies as much as /pol/ does it for the right wing.

>>2384048
>>2384299
>vote to stop fascism!!!!!!!!!
get some new material ffs

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libs best argument is always "the other side is worse" and never explain how and if you bother to find out it turns out its just some minor differences in bourgeois policy

>>2384048
is there any possibility they actually lose to jara?

>>2383997
It took you this long to find out?

Accidentally bumped a bourgeois election circus thread, fuck.

>>2384048
>i will vote
Leftard praxis

>>2384009
Wow Lenin participating in bourgeois elections? What a cope, he was just a bourgeois larper tainted by vile el*ctoralism. He'll never do revolution!

>>2383228
Motherfucker how would you organize if you were thrown out of a plane?

third worldists telling the third world what to do again

>>2384591
>im literally lenin by voting
LOL

>>2370124
Boric's parliament is against him. He can't do much anyway.

>>2386500
LMFAO the ultimate radlib excuse. boric surely wasnt against piñera when he signed along with all the major politicians in 2019 to stop the riots :)

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>>2386500
>my heccin smol bean president wanted to change the world but the parliament won't let him :(((((((
How can you say shit like this and then still insist voting is the way? You're lying anyway, there's plenty of things a president can do on their own.

>>2384591
Bourgeois elections is when workers get to vote on trivial council/union matters

>>2385880
You're right because workers turn out in Chile is non existent. Those who vote socdem are liberals and fascists.

>>2386567
I'm not being ironic in case western radlibs think I'm on their team

>>2386507
>there's plenty of things a president can do on their own.
Depends on the country. Not sure about Chile but at least here presidency is just ceremonial position and parliament has all the power.

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>>2384009
>>2384591
>namedropping Lenin to support electoralism

>>2386502
>>2386507
I am not even an electoralist, just pointing out Boric is in this position not because of his personal or ideological choices, but because of the parliament given to him.


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