What the fuck is happening in Chile and why is socialism having a comeback there. Did the working class just decide that shitlibbery and being right-wing is cringe?
62 posts and 9 image replies omitted.>>2383726>class consciousness means when you think about communismLol you are a massive fucking retard. Class consciousness is when the proletariat associates with each other in struggle against capital, not when voting, especially not when the poorer you are the less likely you are to engage in electoralism anyway.
The proletariat is not dumb, they already realized on their own that electoralism mostly benefits the middle classes.
You know we're filled with retarded libs who just repeat idiocy they saw on some tweet that sounded smart to them because every fucking thread devolves into a discussion about Fascism(tm).
>>2383729>fascism is not an ideology, but a material reality<this is why it can happen multiple times because I conveniently defined it in abstract liberal terms instead of as a distinct movement with its own basis and characteristics"Capitalism in decay" is one of the most retarded and vague leftoid sloganeering ever. Fascism was a specific historical movement in response to the growing proletarian association and middle-class anxiety of the time.
>>2383738>this is why it can happen multiple timesIt can and has.
> I conveniently defined it in abstract liberal termsNo, just a definition accepted by the Comintern in the 1930s.
>Capitalism in decayThat is the shortened down, overly simplified version of what was written in Fascism and Social Revolution.
>>2383734>still not understanding what "class consciousness" meansIt's terminal.
To you morons fascism becomes an alibi for more "acceptable", "desirable", "conducive" forms of bourgeois society, yet the conclusions of any analysis of political economy and bourgeois society means that any form of it is inherently oppressive, most especially to the proletariat.
You annoying liberals are ultimately asking the working class to distinguish the pissiness between cat piss and dog piss, if it's cat piss or dog piss, when their interests lie in cleaning the piss up in the first place.
>>2383739>erm I'm right because I'm using terms as accepted by the Comintern>no I will not elaborate furtherThe absolute state of this shithole, man.
>>2383743>radicalized by the Bernie ratfuckLmao. Can you explain what the fuck this actually means in practice?
>democracy is part of the popular political consciousnessYeah and exactly why communists are against it. Communism is not about "the masses".
>>2383807Liberal truth nuke
Marxists are against leftism (liberalism)
>>2383997>"democratic centralism"semantics
Lenin viewed democracy as a flexible method of organization, not an eternal truth. He was against democracy in principle as he was for abolishing class, the state itself and their superstructure. The proof of this is in democratic method being relegated to workers councils and unions, and no essential party affairs.
>>2384048All of this is even more ridiculous when you realize that we have right before our eyes a fucking ancap psycho as a neighbor, the example of Bolsonaro in Brazil and also whatever the shit Trump is doing.
"Elections don't matter" my ass, i still remember how some leftist ""intellectuals"" claimed that Milei was gonna govern the same way as Fernandez/Massa, now they look like clowns.
>You people care way too fucking much about purity or terminology nobody gives a fuck about.Remember, this is leftypol. This site gathers the weirdest people of leftist ideologies as much as /pol/ does it for the right wing.
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