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>Therefore, June 10 (the date of ᴉuᴉlossnW's declaration of war) was for me what you call a great day. But now that Hitler has grown soft, I begin to lose the trust I had placed in the Axis to strangle and pull down the so-called British colossus, that is, the greatest exponent of capitalism. They are afraid of bringing down England, they are afraid because they know that with it, the whole capitalist system will collapse. […] I still hope that Hitler will not renounce the struggle, and will go all the way, to the extreme consequences.
<The great and authentic revolutionaries of the world are two: ᴉuᴉlossnW and Hitler. But ᴉuᴉlossnW's past shows that Il Duce has always been against the plutocracy and against the democracies, which paralyze the life of nations.
>Stalin, allying himself with London and Washington, has betrayed the cause of the proletariat. Moreover, I can say that on this I agree with Il Duce, when he says, as he did in his speech from last November, that if there is a man who desperately wanted the war, who first prepared it and then instigated it, it is the American president. From my point of view, however, I clarify that Roosevelt is nothing but the exponent of supercapitalism that aims at the conquest of a totalitarian imperialism.

Whaddafug, wholesome critical support to Hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW????
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>>2372475
>>2372472
Two seconds of googling tells you that he said this to ᴉuᴉlossnW's secret police, as that is literally the source of that quote. It comes from the cop he told it to. This is such a common fact it shows active maliciousness when people quote it, like when people pretend that Nietzsche's Will to Power wasn't just the ravings of his actual Nazi sister who published it. It's common knowledge but people keep putting it out there in an attempt to confuse people without knowledge of the subject.

You social democrats (MLs) can never argue on good faith. Once a freikorp, always a freikorp. Anyone continuing to argue is a moron, and even if you pull the "actually meant it" bullshit, it's in such clear contradiction with his views on international bourgeois conflict and campism that's it's obviously bullshit. You guys can just never be honest, since you're youtuber sycophants like the mods.

>>2373591
Here's a fun one for ya

All 4 articles:
<ctrl+f: genocide
>1/1
>"as the language of politicians stopped just about short on calls for genocide"

All 4 articles:
<ctrl+f: hamas
>56/56

I swear to god man these people

>>2373613
I'd love to be the FBI agent in charge of writing for all these sites. I bet they don't even actually write anything themselves by now and just use Chat GPT.

>>2373591
An ex partner of mine used to use the forums on leftcom.org. Mostly terrible people but some good.

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>>2373612
>Two seconds of googling
The op is obviously in bad faith you fucking retard. I'm not going to waste time on it because nothing hinges on bordiga's opinions, shitty or otherwise.

You are actually so fucking stupid.

Bordiga ❤️ Hitler

Bordiga was campist

Shame on OP for the millionth time for not providing the full text that a quote is sourced from. It's not difficult. Nobody's gonna take off points for not providing a proper APA7 citation, we just want any indication of where it comes from.

This quote is from archived interviews between Bordiga and fascist police informants cited in the book Gli anni amari di Bordiga: Un comunista irriducibile e nemico di Stalin nell'Italia di ᴉuᴉlossnW (Bordiga's bitter years: An irreducible communist and enemy of Stalin in ᴉuᴉlossnW's Italy). Unfortunately, as far as I know the full original interview isn't publicly available in Italian or English. Hilariously, the easiest-to-find English-language source for this quote is a partial translation of an Italian "left" anti-communist article (https://libcom.org/forums/history/bordiga-leninist-who-put-his-hopes-axis-27122017). I'll also push back against some others in this thread like >>2372488 over here.
>"But now that Hitler has grown soft, I begin to lose the trust I had placed in the Axis to strangle and pull down the so-called British colossus, that is, the greatest exponent of capitalism."
This rancid re-invention of Second Internationalist substitutions of anti-imperialism for vulgar "anti-hegemonism" and the re-carving of the world by other imperialisms (identical to the modern "theory of the three worlds", "global class war", and "multipolarism") is in essence largely in-line with Bordiga's stances before and after the war. For instance, before the Fascist coup he stated that
>"If the Fascists destroy parliament, we shall be delighted."

>>2372695
Average ultra theorycel's knowledge of history.
>China
China was a pre-capitalist semi-feudal society in the early 20th century. Outside the treaty ports and especially Shanghai there was not a bourgeoisie and proletariat, the vast majority of the population were peasants and the major exploiting class was an agricultural gentry.
>German Empire, Japanese Empire
Late to industrialize, develop capitalist relations, and unify/engage in imperialism. Easily cast as "proletarian nations" in the way ᴉuᴉlossnW cast Italy. They also both were not democratic and the democracies were almost always cast as uniquely inefficient, morally corrupt and rotten by fascist propaganda. If you look at Nazi writing from 44 and 45, when they admit the war is lost and imagine how the peace will go they always predict the victory of the USSR over the Western democracies and it's because of this, often explicitly. Bordiga was an anti-democracy autist in a distinct way but there is definitely some overlap.
>French Empire
Your only decent point but by the 40s they were already on the same page as London and Washington anyway.

There is less of a stark difference between how the US is perceived today and how the British Empire was perceived even into the early postwar period too. Knowing now that America and Russia won the war for Britain and that the British Empire was going to begin falling apart within a decade it's easy to project that knowledge back onto the people of the time but Britain still had the image and reputation of the world's superpower and looked very imposing and stable. This was the country where capitalism developed and it had a direct territorial empire that covered a quarter of the planet. Fascists and Stalinists were both convinced for different reasons that it was rotten and going to topple over any day but then they thought the same thing about all the "plutocracies" including America.

>>2375577
I've never read a word of Marx btw not sure if that matters haha

>>2375581
All the theory in the world won't help you understand anything if it isn't paired with a knowledge of what actually happened. What do you think Marx was reading?

Sorry guys I sometimes reply to myself :)

Critically supporting this shit is in good part why the western left is in it's current state: most of the good revolutionaries were killed by the fascists

>>2372724
Rent free

>>2373612
>Nietzsche's Will to Power wasn't just the ravings of his actual Nazi sister who published it
It wasn't though
https://redsails.org/elisabeths-nietzsche/

>>2375630
I'm all for shitting on the western leftoid but what do you know about it?
I'd be mighty surprised if you had human contact beyond the strictly necessary and incessant shitposting.

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Also remember what I wrote earlier.
I'll come knocking (for realsies) if you don't sort yourself out.

You don't get to say "people are obsessed with me" if you keep making a nuisance of yourself.
That's literally just /pol/shit at this point. No difference between you and them.
Look at the state of you.

>>2372472
And here I was thinking this Bordiga dude couldnt be a worse communist.

BRUH

>>2372979
Don't ask it like that, this is first time I hear about it too

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>>2375786
>mfw I know you haven't read Bordiga so you buy into the slander, not knowing that he is in fact an authentic communist while you are plagued by false consciousness

Bordiga was right. Adulthood is realizing that we doomed our timeline by letting the UK and USA win. They are far worse than the Nazis could have ever been.
You can disagree with me, it won't matter human civilization will go extinct in the next 300 years and that's a good thing.

>>2378188
>maybe that says something about the childishness of the rest of you
Or infantile, you could say, googoogaga

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>>2372472
Well he had a point. 3rd Reich was basically anti-imperialist until it attacked USSR.

>>2372722
At one point MLs really need to just take the name Stalinist if they view Marx and Lenin as “metaphysics”

Damn do I wish you nighas would just die

>>2372472
The actual answer is that he was responding to a fascist cop and dying in prison just to protect your ego is obviously much stupider than living to fight another day

Of course, being pseud moralists with a very cowardly fascination with adventurism, MLs genuinely think it’s worth being executed to say a mean word to a fascist police officer (not them specifically since nobody on this site would ever risk their skin for anything)

>>2386657
>The actual answer is that he was responding to a fascist cop and dying in prison just to protect your ego is obviously much stupider than living to fight another day.
Like he lived to stand for anything like his peers, Leftcomnoids are yet to stand for such a thing instead living for abstract "correct communist line." always divorced from the proletariat struggles or in the specific case of mister bordiga dropping everything for hitler like a rat.
No wonder Georgy Dimitrov's line became popular to the socialists despite it's wrongness, being Courageous and daring is a value liked universaly by people.

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>>2386665
>Like he lived to stand for anything like his peers

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NEW BORDIGGA PIC JUST DROPPED???
https://www.myheritage.gr/names/amadeo_bordiga

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>>2386665
>Like he lived to stand for anything like his peers
He was literally a leader of the communist party of Italy (PCdI) until March 1930, he partook in Biennio Rosso and the Red Guards occupying factories in Milan

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>>2386717
>this totally happened

all leftcoms now have to kill themselves. jfc siding with LITERAL IN˥OSS∩W AND HITLER instead of the USSR and stalin. its the kind of thing i would expect a moron to make up as a way to mock the concept of critical support. its a complete misunderstanding of the nature of fascism, which is capitalism in crisis, and instead misrepresents fascism as 'against' capitalism, rather than its bulwark.

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>>2386742
>all leftcoms now have to kill themselves
Blud thinks we don't know
> jfc siding with LITERAL IN˥OSS∩W AND HITLER instead of the USSR and stalin.
Blud didn't see the first pic >>2372477
, or this pic
>its the kind of thing i would expect a moron to make up as a way to mock the concept of critical support.
Blud thinks KKKritical support means something
>a complete misunderstanding of the nature of fascism, which is capitalism in crisis
Blud doesn't know Bordiga literally wrote that too
>and instead misrepresents fascism as 'against' capitalism
Blud misinterprets Bordigga


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>>2386742
Read digga

>>2386756
oh. that's a trvthnvke. that's a trvthnvke on my leftist imageboard….

>>2372472
this is bordiga's epstein files, bordigoids will try to justfiy this like magtards trying to justify trump saying there was no epstein conspiracy

>>2386864
>bordigoids
bordigods*
>will try to justfiy this like magtards trying to justify trump saying there was no epstein conspiracy
No, Bordiga was speculating on WW2, his speculation did not commence.

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>>2386874
borediga critically supported hitler
>but hitler lost tho, so that makes borediga good again
the mental gymnastics commense

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The son of Amadeo Bordiga died in 2022.

>>2386885
>borediga critically supported hitler
Yes and he had a Hiter body pillow too and wrote love poems about him.

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Bordiga is a meme

>>2386914
>uh he did a math tho.
war calculus is the lowest shit to do in a war, everyone does it but you get shit like modern russia and the eternal two more weeks.


>>2387569
what there is more to say ?, calculating war removes human mistakes or sedentionism like the french army surrender from math because they can't be easily predicted, just like the predictions that the Ukraine would only last 2 more weeks was made because of these types of calculations.

>>2386874
*bordigoisie

>>2372472
Brvtal Truke that tankie MLoids will not understand

>>2372472
Honestly, we should just bomb the New York Stock Exchange. Couldn't be that hard to blow up the New York Stock Exchange.


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