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It's the Durham Miners' Gala this Saturday, are you going? Local Reform Cllrs are fucking furious because they aren't being invited.

The body was too short or empty. The body was too short or empty. Flood detected.

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>U.S. PRESIDENT TRUMP TO VISIT BRITAIN IN THE COMING WEEKS - SKY NEWS REPORTS

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The worst chancellor in British history.

>>2380073
doesn't she look tired?

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>>2380074
she looks like this mf

Hypothetically, could saying you support B*lestine Fr*ction on here get you in legal trouble?
Do the police have means to monitor who is posting here?

>>2380083
If you aren't using a VPN then in theory supporting a proscribed organised (such as the PKK) would be a crime however the website would be shut down if that was the case.

>>2380073
Name one good one

>>2380099
(Me), hypothetically

The rage virus isn’t real but it should be

>>2379615
18% isnt so bad for a start tbh.

They need a catchy name, calling it the Jeremy Corbyn party is a bad idea

>>2380133
INGSOC

>>2380141
Britain Unbowed

>>2380133
The Workers Party of Britain.

>>2380133
Democratic Socialists of Britain

>>2380156
DSB or DemSocBrit works

>>2380156
I wouldn't mind the DSB if that meant the wider "demsoc" movement in the DIEM25 and DSA movement got together and collaborated more. That would be a genuine force.

>>2380157
Tbf under british nomenclature they would be call the deesbees or something.

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>>2380133
British Social Union. It should use this as its logo.

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reclaim the torch

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go back to your containment thread, Yankee, this is a third world country

New Model Party

>>2379615
Anglos unironically deserve genocide

>>2379615
I'm not optimistic about the prospects of a potential left party, and I think there's an uncomfortably high chance it turns into a total palaver because the short-staffed left picked up a few geriatric cranks who're happy to back the establishment so long as they're cracking down on the right young people.
But it's embarrassing how partisan the framing is here. The Stats for Lefties is a Green, so he's got to piss on the project because it risks splitting a vote that the Greens believe to rightfully be theirs. Petty and strategically dubious - you're not going to stop the party from being founded by tweeting about it, but if you don't seem opposed from the off you'll be a lot more convincing when you critique it later.

I've seen a few other Greens doing it and it always looks pathetic. Come the fuck on, you're the Greens, be nice. Or at least roll your current leaders for the boob guy if you want to bounce around all cock-a-hoop.

gents we have several years before the elections

>NEW: In a letter to Keir Starmer, 104 Labour MPs have called for the Government to refocus on “radical ideas” to lower the cost of living
>They say the Government should speak less about growth in the G7 and more about the cost of food
"radical ideas"

>>2380165
They still exist you know, have a branch in london.

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>>2380168
Because we bare our heritage.

>>2380222
I never quite got the appeal of brigading the Greens. It will always be a "Party with Socialists" in it like Labour was. If you hated the former why do you now like the latter?

>>2380133
The Real Movement (TM)

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>>2380133
It's all going to be lefty-corporate graphic design slop and have a gay name like "the compassion party" and everybody here knows it.

Picrel is a best-case scenario.

>>2380357
England invented communism

>>2380168
Nobody is British, they are English, Welsh, Cornish, Scottish or Irish. If someone thinks they are British yes I would agree with you.

>>2380526
Ulster loyalists self identify as British

>>2380083
>Do the police have means to monitor who is posting here?
Yes, via your ISP.

>>2380526
Most people who call themselves British as a national identity are BAMEs though. You can't really be black and say "I am an Ulster Scot" or "I am English" because nobody will take you seriously.

>>2380520
not the greens but there was a time die linke had 30% of the eastern german vote until they became totally ideologically confused

>>2380530
well they're not because the british don't want them to be british

>>2380530
They are the one group I agree with Iron Felix on then

>>2380536
Maybe its different in London or other places but in South Wales they do not usually call themselves British.

>>2380537
They didn't realise it at the time, but the Berlin Wall's greatest strength wasn't keeping out fascism but rather the worst strand of leftism ever unleashed on mankind.

>UK, France to sign declaration to enable 'coordinated' nuclear deterrent: officials

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>>2379615
Stats for lefties is an imperialist, and a wrecker. If someone states a left-winger is "bad on foreign policy", they are either ideologically confused or conformist, or an outright chauvinistic imperialist.

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>>2380222
>he
Apparently Stats for lefties is a trans she.
>Mentally ill "Marxist"
I have doubts about the Marxist part.

is leftybritpol still shit or did you bongs get better?

>>2380552
>Maybe its different in London or other places but in South Wales they do not usually call themselves British.
Wales has linguistic nationalism tho.

How do you even begin to educate and radicalise the millions of Brits living in Barratt new builds, who buy Dubai chocolate and those labubu thingies, have fake teeth and hair from Turkey, and a Peaky Blinders tattoo?
That's like half the population and they're all either not voting or voting Reform. Either way they don't know anything about politics.

>>2381142
Fuck off yank.

>>2381368
>How do you even begin to educate and radicalise the millions of Brits living in Barratt new builds, who buy Dubai chocolate and those labubu thingies, have fake teeth and hair from Turkey, and a Peaky Blinders tattoo?
You're fucking retarded if these are the people you've been trying to radicalise/organise, anon.

>>2381381
that's literally the majority of the population around these parts

>>2381400
> around these parts
Well you are betraying your class position because most of the country by far can't afford to go off buy a red brick home, pay to go to Turkey for cosmetic surgeries and so on and so on.
What job do you and these people even have? out of curiosity.

>>2381406
These people have the cheapest new builds, built on flood plains and designed to crumble in 50 years, and sell their souls for the mortgage, it's not exactly the societal elites.
Most have grotty office jobs, HR positions, maybe assistant managers at a Sports Direct or some shit, try to hustle on Instagram or onlyfans on the side.

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I feel safer already

>>2381491
what the fuck?
has this ever happened? I don't even think this shit happened in the 80's.

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>>2380520
It needs really to be more like the Dems tbh. A coalition of other left wing parties and groups that all agree on a largely material bread and butter issues (economy/immigration), then allow free voting on whatever social issues or whatever, leadership of the party should basically never comment on social issues as well, take the Anthony Albanese route.
Run Workers party conservatives in rural areas and the north, Greens in places like Bristol, Glastonbury, Sheffield etc then have Zarah types in big BAME metropolis areas.
Any strict "Left" party with whips and shit is just going to lead to your pic related.
Also in terms of name, the "Empathy" party is another lame fucking one I could see. Knew personally a lot of the movers and shakers of the Respect Party and they always had this eyerolling shitlib saccharine way they used language.
>>2380073
Kwasi Kwatering exists. Yes, having a three way with Liz Truss and Amber Rudd gives him some lol points, but still far worse than Reeves.
As to the image, I strongly with the Aimee Terese's take back when she was a Marxist that one of the biggest LMAO trends of modern politics is female politicians always blubbering when things don't go their way and weaponizing "uwu I'm just a poor dumb girlie plz don't bully me". Always supposedly "girlboss" types doing this as well.
>>2381406
Deano's live on credit, they usually quite literally work in shitty call center, labourer and sales jobs barely above minimum wage.
They are absolutely are one of the major groups the left should be appealing too. Jeremy Corbyn basically rose to 45% based on a fucking football chant that took off among Deanos.
"Most people are too poor"
The overwhelming majority of British people are homeowners. Not among us young people yes, but most of the country aren't youth and youth voters are notoriously unreliable support base because most will grow into Libdem/Centrist types as they move into their 40s.

>>2381491
It's fine soon Devon will all become one council and the Torbay councillors will be in control. They will be too incompetent to even tell anyone if there is a radiation leak.

>>2381628
>Yes, having a three way with Liz Truss and Amber Rudd
Wut

>>2381368
>How do you even begin to educate and radicalise the millions of Brits living in Barratt new builds, who buy Dubai chocolate and those labubu thingies, have fake teeth and hair from Turkey, and a Peaky Blinders tattoo?
You don't, they are the class enemy lmao.

>>2381647
Truss, Kwasi and Rudd are all swingers and were banging eachother at the same time.
Truss in particular has been known about being a turbo slut since her Lib Dem days.
Banged her way through Parliament, used to fuck all her aides and would relentlessly sexually harass the ones she didn't (one famous story was her trying to face fuck an aide as he tried to fix his computer under the desk), Journalists would ask "My office or yours?" after interviews. There is an apparent sex tape out there of her (Guardian even reported on this). A big rumour around whitehall is that a lot of her security detail as PM, asked to be reassigned due to her constant cringe attempts to get them to fuck her.
Go look at reporting on Truss' scandals over the years, and you even see pretty reputable outlets here and there mentioning this stuff on the side.

>>2381667
why cant more politicians be like this?

owen jones status?

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>>2381102
Of course, a trot.

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>>2381667
wtf was this true the entire time??

>>2381723
hot if true.

>>2381723
"You WILL listen to Trashfuture podcast" yes mommy, thank you

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who is this guy

>>2381501
Yes, this happened in the late 90s or early 00s as I recall, they handed these out round Devonport and Torpoint

welcome back: Entente alliance

>>2381628
Were the Deanos really behind the Corbyn chant?
Seemed to me it was mainly student-age younguns. If anything Deano types are prime nu-Tory voters, they're materialistic, young parents and homeowners of new-builds, and politically disengaged, not caring for whatever the lefties are getting uppity about voting for 'less tax, simple as' of the Tories.

You've mentioned the real constituency of the left-wing in this country, the affluent but liberal towns and the diverse cities who vote that way mainly for lifestyle/identity reasons like “I’m BAME and from the city, so are they” and “I think climate change is bad and care about the environment, so do they”. Policy discussion has practically become obsolete when everyone knows it's gonna be more austerity and neo-liberalism, ad infinitum.

What wins or loses an election in the UK is the favour of the formerly industrialised working-class, the former 'red-wall', who have now become right-wing voters due to the left focusing on cultural issues, having no answer to the immigration question and having their relation to the means of production completely changed.
Ofc the right, with the full support of the media, are the framers of every debate. It's really no surprise this country is so right wing considering the formerly industrial proletariat have been petite-bourgeois-ified into small (construction/trade) business owning, or working for, or working for real estate agencies, call centres and the like.
Thatcher successfully broke the backs of millions of the working-class, it became true that you could only rely on yourself to get ahead and having any big ideas about 'fairness' made you a loser.

Back to the ineptitude of the left, aside from the bread and butter issues that have always been popular, the left need to stop being pussies and admit that cultural issues are of secondary importance and that unfettered immigration is harmful to the CORE of society.
They need to explain to voters that the right lies about their anti-immigration stance, that net-migration has soared since Brexit, that 'gaps' in the labour market come down to the poor level of education (and direction) that most receive in school.
They need to explain immigration is kept high to enrich the ownership class by keeping housing costs high and wages low. It needs to be said the right, at the capitalist’s behest, intentionally stokes racial tension to divide the masses, preventing them from coming together and taking what's theirs: the collective wealth of our entire society.
What would be even worse is if the left dared to link just about every humanitarian crisis in the world to the machinations of capitalist imperialism and how they have plundered and destabilised around the world.

The left won't do this because they have abandoned a Marxist approach to an understanding of capitalist social relations in the core countries, and imperialist exploitation in the periphery.

Honestly, I think only a crisis will change the situation at all, and until then the mainstream left will play second fiddle to losers like Starmer who will sabotage potential left opportunities and sink the ship deeper, and deeper.

In conclusion, never give up and vote for George Galloway’s Workers’ Party and the closest opportunity!!

not splitting the vote

>>2381667
What the fuck lmao, I knew of the stuff about her and a necklace, but goddamn

>>2381667
I honestly would

>>2381864
Same here ngl

>>2381864
>>2381866
bit desperate if I'm being perfectly honest

>>2381899
>Not wanting the Liz Trussy

>BRITISH PRIME MINISTER STARMER ACCEPTED INVITATION TO VISIT TRUMP DURING HIS TRIP TO SCOTLAND THIS MONTH - SOURCE (CGTN)

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>>2381628
>The overwhelming majority of British people are homeowners.
I doubt this. serious reservations about how those numbers are taken.
>>2381938
>>Not wanting the Liz Trussy
Sir in this house we simp for Francesca P Albanese.

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Women shouldn't be allowed to become police officers desu

will corbyn finally announce the new party tomorrow

>>2382272
neither should men

>>2382281
rapefiend why did u stop posting over tor

>>2381669
Tonnes of politicians are like this, i've heard from pretty good sources that swinging is basically the norm for huge swaths of parliament, even in the Labour left.

>>2382290
i am posting over tor

>>2382324
I know your game.

be quiet

>>2382349
Sorry I'll let you continue gooning to sexual fantasies about the group sex activities of senior female members of the Tory party

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>>2381809
>Back to the ineptitude of the left, aside from the bread and butter issues that have always been popular, the left need to stop being pussies and admit that cultural issues are of secondary importance and that unfettered immigration is harmful to the CORE of society.
I've been sayin this for a long time but trying to get Leftists to admit mass migration and the destruction of cultural and civic life is bad is like pulling massive teeth. 95% of the Left still won't acknowledge, or will cover for the grooming gangs, simply because it would force them to acknowledge that massive cultural differences, and extreme ingroup biases exist in non-white ethnic groups and they take advantage of specifically white people for being far more naive.
I'm not even white and I'm going to most likely have to white-flight my area due to mass migration, because where I live has become an unlivable fucking shithole due to recent migrants. Another night of no sleeping because groups migrants literally spend all fucking night doing god knows what on the streets around here making fucking SHITLOADS of noise, like revving their fucking scooters and shit, they do this most nights, they do not give a fucking shit about people needing to sleep because of ingroup bias (and there is a specific reason they are clearly doing this in an are of this suburb that has the last locals). But regular people being forced out due to antisocial, uncivic behaviour, not an issue due to most of the left, just "racism" lol. The fact much of the people forced out will never, ever vote left again and will see left defending this shit as an attack on them and their families, not an issue.
It's not just that now, women are being harassed around here by groups of men, the trash situation has become unreal, lack of all civic norms that make even walking around here now a pain in the ass because they will just take up an entire walk way bridge to hang and chat and not move and shit like that. It's pretty clear they realize average Brits won't confront them and if they do get confronted it's becoming another rUnitedKingdom "racism incident" on film and they take advantage of that.
I've always held the take that much of the Western left are "punks" and that is their real social movement and Leftistism is just used as a guise for it and that they actually enjoy the the antisocial attitudes leading to the fact "normies" suffer. You see it even from a lot of users and moderators here and it's extremely prevalent in the Western left in how swaths of it worship the Lumpenproletariat.
Mass Immigration has always been a weapon to drive down wages, destroy social harmony, and destroy the ability for working people to collectivise and engage in workers actions. Mass migration in all metric leads to lower civic trust, lower civic attitudes, more dog eat dog attitues and yet the Left puts shitty Shitlib "racism" idpol over an issue with is directly effecting our base.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335924797_Ethnic_Diversity_and_Social_Trust_A_Narrative_and_Meta-Analytical_Review
https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x
https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/20/21228324/amazon-whole-foods-unionization-heat-map-union
> If anything Deano types are prime nu-Tory voters, they're materialistic, young parents and homeowners of new-builds
The left still needs to appeal to find a way to appeal to these people. The left needs to engage with most of society, and Deano's are a massive core working class demographic. So are tradespeople and Tradies often are on pretty decent wages and are typical self employed or small business owners.
We just can't keep appealing to university shitlibs and Muslims, the left needs to expand it's base.

Also I will just add to note, that plenty of Norf Deanos are left wing, especially Liverpool and that area. Also Youtubers like FriendlyJordies seem to be massive popular among Deano demographics. I actually wish the UK left had it's own Friendlyjordies instead of sanctimonious breadtube and Novara dickheads.
I think Leftist content creation should really copy FriendlyJordies. Focus on funny cultural shit that Deanos like like football, stories about shithead retards in school, funny workplace stories, then intermingle that with Leftist journalism and analysis done in a more bants, comedic way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBKFwO6wh6E

>>2381809
>>2383119
So you're not saying that the left should abandon social issues, you're saying the left should focus on a specific social issue that isn't actually that much of an issue but that you were manipulated to think is. And then we should vote for the right-socdem Galloway.

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>>2383147
Any Left party should really just focus on bread and butter issues, and allow free vote on social issues, that has been my position for any political project.
What I'm talking about there, is the fact the Left puts fucking shitlib positions ahead of Working Class issues. Mass Migration is a Capitalist ploy, it does lead to massive collapse in unionization, collectivization efforts and wages. Also I find it staggering that most Leftists claim to be "communists" yet are against any form of enforcement of civic norms. Lack of civic values, incredibly strong ingroup biases among minorities, and ethnic enclaves where they actively treat outsiders like fucking shit, and even specifically target other ethnic demographics for crime, rape, violence etc, is not a good fucking state of things to avoid. The fact the Left literally spent decades, and still does, cover for the Grooming Gangs is a massive fucking stain on the Left of this country. As someone who lived in Sheffield, right near Rotherham, even the most wokie fucking shitlib women knew to stay the fuck away from heavily Pakistani/New immigrant areas. On multiple occasions My friends and I had to rush to help girls we knew being assaulted or harassed or even attempted kidnapping in broad daylight by Pakistani men, when they visited areas near/around the NE of the city heading up to Rotherham like Burngreave, constant stories among women of being attempted to get dragged into white workers vans and shit like that by Pakistanis when out. Are Pakistani's targeting their own women? Of course not, it's mostly white teen girls they view as lower class.
The left of course is like "Yeah not a issue you racist, did you know rich people also kidnap and rape people?"
>that isn't actually that much of an issue but that you were manipulated to think is.
Yeah man totally manipulated to not be able to look out my fucking window and see my local area turn into a fucking ghetto where women are fucking assaulted in the street, I now walk over litter to get anywhere because migrants don't know the concept of a bin, and they spend all night congregating around the streets and making stupid amounts of fucking noise to like 4am because it's clear they are trying to drive out the last locals.
Again, the fact so many of you call yourselves communists, yet do not give a single fucking shit about civic values or social harmony, makes me think more of you care more about just being Lumpens "sticking it to the man" than actual healthy communities.

>>2383119
ok but can i hear from other britanons how much of this is actually true? only been to berlin in europe and noticed immigrants but did not seem like a problem at all let alone to this degree and there are germans who likewise treat immigration as this kind of plague tearing society apart. im from the US where immigration being the cause of social ills is blatantly ridiculous and in most places there hasnt been any kind of meaningful widespread civic life or community vitality to speak of since final wave of austerity and suburbanization in the 80s/90s. but i am not necessarily immediately dismissive of the idea that those concerns are not PURELY a reactionary red herring everywhere, even if reactionary parties use it as one

>>2383174
and to be clear im not saying my limited impression of a short time in berlin is necessarily conclusive or accurate, only that in immigrant heavy areas as well as everywhere else it felt calm, "harmonious", people just going about their business, very safe, etc, when you see anti-migrant germans talk the same way about immigration turning their cities into dangerous filthy hell-holes

>>2383169
>Pic
Based Muslims.

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turns out in 2023 the SAS deployed to do operations in Gaza and the government censored journalists reporting it

>>2383193
luv ma' free speech

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>>2383174
Places like the US and Australia are very different from here dude. The New World have far stricter immigration controls, far more attempts to integrate people, don't have the same cultural dynamics as here.
UK is an extremely class/region.
Another thing you have to accept is Europe is a very old place, with very old cultural traditions, cultures and peoples. Would you be fine with immigrants going into Japan and fucking it up and demanding they change everything to accomidate them and making Japan another piece in the homogenized fucking cultural modern shithold world? No? Then why should Europe be forced to do this? The destruction of cultural heritage is a much larger issue in the UK and Europe than New World because the New world was built on Immigration and has a frontier mindset, Europe does not. It's the exact same reason Neoliberalism was much more of a disaster here compared to the US, because Neoliberalism doesn't meld with entrech UK cultural class dynamics.
Another issue is that there are different "degrees" of Immigrants. Notice people don't have an issue with largely Brahman Indians or Chinese? Because they don't cause issues, there are plenty of Pakistani people who are extremely well integrated, along with plenty of Somalis or whatever. I've worked with plenty of these types. These people are not the wave of Immigration in the past 20 years though, which is flooding Europe with people from the shittiest religions of the third world. Even my Pakistani co-workers despised all the new Pakistani immigrants because "Mirpur" does not have a good repuation even in Pakistan and a lot of my Pakistani co-workers fled this area, due to Mirpur immigration.
Another is, frankly, you just cannot ignore Black people have been part of the UK now for 50 years, and still largely haven't integrated all that well despite given every opportunity and UK media sucking off the black community like they are main historical ethnic group of England. Areas like Peckham, Croydon, Thamesmead etc are still crime ridden fucking shitholes that feel like you have walked into some other country. Look up Nottingham Carnival here for just the most absolute insane display of fucking shitty behaviour here. Video after video of their white female police officers clearly being gang sexually harassed and the partner is just "well if I try do anything I'm going to be stabbed to death" so has to watch.
Don't even get started on the stabbings or the fact the entire British left treated Chris Kaba as a dindunuttin good angelic hero for like 2 fucking years until the court documents came out showing he was fucking gangland hitman doing drivebys. Black London Tiktok is basically just a "do crime against whitey they are pussies" video app at this point, the amount of times I've seen in person, black teens just walk into stores, grab armfulls of stuff and walk out while kicking down stands and shelves, is frankly countless at this point. They are putting security locks on fucking produce here now lmao.
It's out of control, the Left constantly just gives into minority ethno-narcissism and it's propelling terrible behaviour.

>>2383201
>New World have far stricter immigration controls, far more attempts to integrate people

idk how US immigration controls compare to european ones, certainly they have become far stricter in the past decades even before trump. but there is not really "more attempts to integrate people", most integration in the US is voluntary and always has been. its a classic source of angst here for the off-the-boat generation that their kids readily abandon traditions and languages to become americanized, it happened to my grandparents/parents and i saw it happen with kids i grew up with

>Another thing you have to accept is Europe is a very old place, with very old cultural traditions, cultures and peoples. Would you be fine with immigrants going into Japan and fucking it up and demanding they change everything to accomidate them and making Japan another piece in the homogenized fucking cultural modern shithold world? No? Then why should Europe be forced to do this? The destruction of cultural heritage is a much larger issue in the UK and Europe than New World because the New world was built on Immigration and has a frontier mindset, Europe does not.


yes, this is exactly why i am willing to hear people out about immigration concerns outside of former settler-colonies whereas in US/canada/australia etc i am confident it is simply xenophobia and/or racism far more often than not. which isnt to say i necessarily "support" "unrestricted" immigration but i am ambiguous to it and so long as the US is the global hegemon scouring huge portions of the planet i am only sympathetic to people fleeing immiseration here. likewise i find it strange seeing black british adopt aspects of black american culture wholesale as if its the same situation, honestly seems tonedeaf and genuinely "appropriative." which is not to downplay the horrific colonial history, but theres a difference between a lineage of being enslaved in the country you remain in and have generations of ancestors that have lived and labored in and still face serious persecution directly descended from those original circumstances, and emigrating from an at least formally independent commonwealth nation like jamaica etc. at the very least theres a few more degrees of seperation that make it seem presumptuous to treat average europeans in their own countries as having a de facto complicity in colonial & imperial ventures that is in any way comparable to the US situation where the average white citizen was very often regularly and reliably the enforcer of colonial expansion/white supremacist policy. which isnt an "inherited guilt" thing, it is just simply reasonable for black americans to have a sense of caution and certain degree of resentment for white society when there is living memory of a time where lynchings were a fun public festivity in the same town you now live in.

i still hold confidently that anti-migrant rhetoric is fundamentally reactionary, tho i suppose there is a distinction to be made there between position towards migrants in the country and policy towards continued immigration. i am also very skeptical of anyone treating immigration as somehow a moral good in itself which never made any sense to me as to why it would ever be a good thing simply on principle.

>>2383201
Pseud, "japanese culture" was made up in the 19th century as part of constructing nation statehood.
Same is true of "le ancient European culture"

Did you know that nobody gave a fuck about the notre dame before victor hugo wrote a book about it

>>2383193
B-but call of duty? B-but captain Price?

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>>2383222
Even if that were true, it's still better than the thirdie, ethnic enclave, hustling, lack of any civic awareness or education shithole we have become.
The reality is, pretty much every other ethnic group bar white people, has a strong ingroup bias. Muslims communities will happily shield violence, terrorism and crime against non-Muslims, and any crime committed in their communities, they deal with themselves among themselves, British Jews? Have pedos rape and target children, then have Shomrim give them a first class ticket to Israel, British Blacks, have black teens go around punching everyone on the bus in the back of the head as they walk past and the community does not give a fucking shit, have black teens just loot stores in broad daylight, constant stabbings, people clearly carrying all around London, sexually assaulting and abusing police etc they refuse to snitch on any of their own, then cry "racism" because their communities are shitholes where, and I quote plenty of delivery and uber drivers I knew a few years back, would not go into certain areas of London, because high chance they would get jacked.
In fact, my area of London, used to be very nice and quite posh, now I can't get an uber here anymore after dark, because most Uber drivers won't step foot here anymore.
Playing into the bad faith ethno-narcissism of minorities is not a good move for the left, because it fuels their bad behaviour and "fuck civic rules, If I get in trouble for stabbing another kid to death it's because I'm a victim" attitude. Another is that every single Idpol setback that blows up in our faces, reduces Leftist clout among Normies back to zero. A big reason that Normal people fucking hate us on the Left, is because even though they agree with pretty much us on most bread and butter issues, they see us just become bizarrely deranged on Idpol issues and won't call a spade a spade, or even stand with antisocial attitudes, often hypocritically, simply because they are coming from minorities.
Also is it that bad to say, I actually like a lot of British culture, and I don't want to see it fucking get pushed out by more and more antisocial migrants who don't give a fuck about integrating at all? Should I be fine with ethnic landlords buying up entire high streets, kicking out all the law abiding local businesses and replacing them with dodgy clear ethnic money laundering fronts? A part of the reason the UK feels like such a fucking shithole, is the fact high streets and other community places have become hubs of ethnic based crime.
I mean, just look at deliveries, how in fuck are brand new FOB immigrants driving around doing Uber and deliveries? How is that possible when they can't possibly have a license for a year? Oh right, they just ignore the fucking law and police don't even bother to engage with enforcing it because the communities protect themselves.
I'm not against all immigration, I think though the UK should prioritise countries that actually have strong cultural linkage to UK culture (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, France, Netherlands) and even then, have very strict civic requirements as part of permanent residency here. Having people breeze through a basic 10 multiple choice question isn't enough, Civic education as to what China does and requires graduation from, is far more the position the UK and Europe should take.

words words words words

>>2383237
So are you advocating for TND or what?

>>2383237
>weeehh waaaah le minorities are organised and thats le bad waaaah
>how can an immigrant drive a car waaaaah
Based immigrants acting like labour unions. You are just a white supremacist labour aristokkkrat

>>2383237
Are you saying minorities are fascist lumpen thugs of international capital dictatorship?

>>2383251
My take is this, most minority groups have pretty strong ingroup biases, many minority groups are extremely fine with Lumpenprole attitudes, "hustling" and behaviour towards people outside of their communities and they will never snitch because of those ethnic ingroup biases. Another big issue is white people are made targets because many minority communities see the outgroup high trust biases, as well as fear as being seen as "racist" to step up adn defend themselves, as just weakness that is easy to target. This is how you get the daily occurance now on the Overground and tube where minorities openly just mug people openly on trains and platforms, right there in front of Transport police who can't do shit because they are outnumbered. A few weeks ago I was on the tube, saw a guy smash through the doors closing doors bashing them and getting them stuck, when some white guy made a comment about how he could have waited 2 minutes, the guy who made the comment was assaulted and abused, by multiple black people on the train, and nobody intervened at all.
This is "based" according to much of the Left here, because again, most people here just fucking hate normies and in particular white people and want to see white people suffer.
Do you think a Communist country like China or the USSR would have accepted such behaviour? Of course not.
>>2383244
Advocating that the Government goes on an enforcement blitz around civicism and enforcing basic fucking cultural norms and values. That Permanent Residency in the UK should have far stricter requirements around civic engagement and attitudes.
>>2383246
yeah man, having ethnic crime cartels and ethnic landlords drive out locals and drive down wages because all their costs are lowered due to cartel criminal behaviour and attacking all the rights Unions fought so hard for like safety and wages is so fucking based.
https://www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/news-articles/2024/05/exploitation-in-the-hand-car-wash-sector
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55765213
Slavery is so fucking based!(Racial idpol)

Britain is not a so-called 'melting pot' that is oft said, it is the homeland of a specific people, who can do not need population influxes to build the nation if governed correctly.
The failures of this country do not come down to immigration, but immigration has an objectively negative effect on society when kept at the unfathomably high levels that it is.
Recent immigrants have done what exactly? Gave us new foodslop stalls for punters? Brilliant.
New migrants form mafias, like the other anon said, and protect their own; they are the ones who are the footsoldiers of organised crime: car theft, phone theft, muggings, drug dealing, sex trafficking etc. That's not to say they are the sole perpetrators, it's just natural for deracinated transplants to do the dirty work of society.
Of course the police and intelligence services are all too happy to exploit migrants in their operations at managing the organised crime that fuels much of the global economy, especially here in blighty, the home of global drug smuggling and money laundering.
Enough with the discordian games of the capitalists, no war abroad, no crime on our streets. No unjust taxes and extortionate cost of living on the workers, no free money to the rich and warmongers.
One nation, one people.

UK's F-35 fleet can perform only one third of required missions, largely due to a shortage of engineers, spare parts, and unexpected corrosion issues

- The National Audit Office (NAO) revealed

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>>2383309
>Britain is not a so-called 'melting pot' that is oft said, it is the homeland of a specific people
you mean celts? the settlers have been numeous since then; romans, anglo-saxons, normans and dutch. the issue with talking about britain is taking identity for granted. the irish used to be treated like subhumans, but now there is an inferred esoteric alliance. where does britain begin and end to you? its not so simple (for example, after the dissolution of the empire, various colonial citizens were granted abode in the imperial core). the mass immigration people complain about began in 1997, yet people project this onto a broader topic of expelling all non-britons from even before 1950. we are not one people, even if we are one nation.

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>>2382272
we live in a police state, so are hiring new recruits every day. competence is secondary to loyalty to the regime. doctors cant get a better wage, yet new police salaries are being funded by the minute. funny, that.

also, crime increases at the same rate that police are recruited. 95% of violent and sexual crimes go unsolved or even uninvestigated, yet if you oppose israel's genocide, they will lock you up on terrorist charges. in a few decades, we will see that the architecture of british law is crime itself; thats why you get a slap on the wrist for being a nonce, while getting years behind bars for offensive language. a global paedocracy in service of the chosen nation. more blood for moloch. more golden calfs to venerate.

>>2383309
Trvke
Calling Britain a melting pot is actually colonialist cope. “They were all subjects of our empire once”, “they’re like us cause they’re part of the commonwealth”, all that nonsense. Unfortunately though, because British people are White, you’re not allowed to acknowledge that they exist as an ethnicity. They have to be reduced to Normans, celts, Anglo-Saxons, etc.

Britain's economy contracted unexpectedly for a second month running in May, making it likely that the finance minister will need to raise taxes again in her next budget

>>2383448
Nope. she'll end all benefits and turf us both out on the street personally before that cunt raises taxes.

Do you really think ethnically cleansing the isles will make your luves and economy better? Bring you closer to socialism?

>>2383479
don't listen to those two posters

>>2383483
They make up half the thread

>>2383485
that's just how it is
reactionary magic

>>2383489
I just imagine two seaside marks typing away at each other inbetween sips of cider

If you are le leftist you should know that le TND wont solve le crime issue. Hey leftists, TND wont solve jack shit yes?

>le
sticking out like a sore thumb, maybe don't type like this every thread you're in

>>2383496
Answer le damn question, yes?

le no

>>2383263
You are just having le ressentiment

>>2383493
shut the fuck up le nubriton flid.

I’m sure black bagging the cast of Top Boy and throwing them in the English Channel will make the NHS better, somehow

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The only people having kids are interracial couples, you think it’s a good idea to rip these families apart in the name of stopping le ethnic mafias and le ethnic landlords?

>>2383405
whiteness doesnt exist you americanised buffoon 😂
>i have pale skin, therefore i am like you
<cut to dresden fire bombing and 70 million dead europeans later
people say muh evropa but the EU is unironically the fourth reich.

>>2383342
>the settlers have been numeous since then; romans, anglo-saxons, normans and dutch
Why should Britain have a "door's open" policy to immigration because of historical, pre-modern, migration?
Are we still living in the Migration Period and has the Romans Empire just collapsed?
Does no "Englishman" or "Scotsman" have any right to their home because the Romans invaded, or because they have Germanic and Celtic heritage?

Immigrants shouldn't be discriminated against or deported like members of the Windrush generation have been; because in the case of the Windrush gen, they came to fill an unavoidable labour shortage and to rebuild the country after the war.
Other migrants have also contributed to our 'economy' but to the benefit of whom? The capitalist class, who see no reason to uplift the millions of people living in poverty and squalor, they much prefer mass immigration as we know.

why does no european socialist party run on a platform of "we will increase immigration restrictions at a proportionate rate to the decrease in involvemeny in imperialist military and financial ventures that create most of the push for emigration"?

am i an idiot, is this not an obvious and consistent position?

>>2383539
What would you call someone who is not Asian, Black or Mixed race? White, retard.

>>2383574
>What would you call someone who is not Asian, Black or Mixed race? White, retard.
Why would you call anyone any of those things?

>>2383575
When you need to be specific about identifying someone, like in a criminal investigation.

I think I'll get a chinky tonight lads. A nice friday night chinky for me tonight lads.

This is so fucking based, I hope this image makes all you lefties seethe and rage and cry :D

>>2383562
Are you actually involved in political work or are you just roleplaying as a socialist?

>>2383644
sein fein has the majority in northern ireland THOUGH

>>2383644
Ulster Settlers deserve everything the I$raelis do

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>>2383644
Ulster Protestants dont know how to build, only burn shit down. That is why they take so much of your tax.

>>2383651

Cry more commie, your holy sacred Palestine will sonn cease to exist ;)

>>2383652

I can't wait for them to burn down migrant monkey hotels

>>2383660
>die hard "calvinists" when the holy land is bombed

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>>2383651
Does that include BAME Ulster?

>>2383663
Why would calvinists care about the middle east? Calvinists don’t care about anything because everything is predetermined, it’s a nihilistic religion

>>2383662
Cut them off, cut you off.

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Got to be very honest, doing this on the Twelfth in Derry is very fucking funny fair play.
https://www.derrynow.com/news/local-news/1846440/defend-the-right-to-protest-rally-to-take-place-in-derry-s-guildhall.html

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>>2383574
>What would you call someone who is not Asian, Black or Mixed race? White, retard.
you do know that "asian" spans from russians to indians to chinese, right? its not one category. and "mixed race" includes many configurations. also, do you consider eastern europeans part of your tribe? how about native americans; they have indo-european ancestry, and worship the skyfather, so are they "white"? also, look up african civil wars and genocides. it is "black" people killing each other for racial reasons. how is that? because like any continent, there are many ethnicities.
>>2383547
>Why should Britain have a "door's open" policy to immigration because of historical, pre-modern, migration?
where did i say it should? i am just correcting your eroneous notions that we were ever a "homogenous" island living in peace with each other. there is no british race, just british races.
>Does no "Englishman" or "Scotsman" have any right to their home because the Romans invaded, or because they have Germanic and Celtic heritage?
the scots are put under the rule of an english king, so apparently not. do you support scottish independence? or welsh independence?
>Other migrants have also contributed to our 'economy' but to the benefit of whom? The capitalist class, who see no reason to uplift the millions of people living in poverty and squalor, they much prefer mass immigration as we know.
the irony is that i see hoards of illegal immigrants on e-bikes making deliveries, while white crackheads are pestering the public for drug money. i live in liverpool and the ratio between white and black homeless is 100:1, while the white:black ratio of pedestrians i see about the city is 10:1. i think the illegal immigrant contributes much more to britain than these tramps, personally. not just economically, but civily. of course, not all illegal immigrants work or make peace with the public, but these are of the same class of scum as the white criminals, no? i just dont like the hypocrisy. if theres a day of reckoning, lots of heads must roll.

>>2383828
When you say “White” everyone knows you’re talking about Europeans. Likewise, when you say “Black” everyone knows you’re talking about Africans. The amount of ethnicities in each continent doesn’t matter, especially when you’re just trying to describe people in a specific way. If you’re trying to point someone out in a crowd, you can say “the guy in the blue shirt”, what if there’s another guy wearing a blue shirt, well, “the White guy in the blue shirt”, you’re not gonna not say anything because you don’t know if he’s Polish or Scottish or whatever, that’s just retarded.

>>2383842
yes, but in this case, what does it denote? skin colour and some phenotypical characteristics. you can have white skin and "look black" for example, especially if you are mixed. but to say that there are 4 races, "white", "black", "asian" and "brown" is silly.

>>2383852
>you can have white skin and "look black" for example, especially if you are mixed.
No one would assume someone who looks like that is White. Are you retarded?

>>2383828

I hope the illegal migrants you love so much stab you to death, traitor scum

>>2383862
>No one would assume someone who looks like that is White.
so you can have white skin and not be white? what denotes whiteness, then? i would agree btw that there are distinctly english phenotypes like blue eyes. i have hazel eyes so am caught out straight away. in eurasia it gets difficult too, since you get the african flat nose, but squinty eyes, so there is always a gradient. here's a question, are there people "more" or "less" white than others? which ethnicity is "most" white?
>>2383863
😂 sound.

>>2383828
>the scots are put under the rule of an english king, so apparently not
the scots are under under a german king like what the english are. scots are also a mixed-people with the Norse-Gaels, Norse and Angles being part of modern day scotland
>i live in liverpool and the ratio between white and black homeless is 100:1
that would make sense because liverpool is 90% white. also what really is the point of having so many of these new fast food places and delivery drivers everywhere? to get the government money? to subsidise corporations and send weapons abroad with? depressing really

>>2383871
> so you can have white skin and not be white?
Yanks call them “yellowbones” or “redbones”

>>2383875
the english are a germanic tribe called the "angles" (what today is referred to as "anglos"); thats why "angle-land" became england.
>scots are also a mixed-people with the Norse-Gaels, Norse and Angles being part of modern day scotland
okay, so its the race mixing which makes us integrated?
>that would make sense because liverpool is 90% white
not really, since its disproportional. up here in the norf you get white kids acting like the soufs black kids. thats why i think there is a class element to all of it.
>also what really is the point of having so many of these new fast food places and delivery drivers everywhere?
started with covid, which coincided with the "boris wave" of infinity migrants. i believe they work for delivery services since they dont need proof of citizenship for it. thats why you sometimes see police arresting delivers workers for illegally working. its a mystery who is buying these electric bikes for them tho 🤔 never figured that one out.
>>2383877
or "irish", since they provided much slave labour.

I have both norman and irish ancestry so I have more authority on this topic than any of you angloids

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soon

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>>2383891
i have irish and greek so am a mudblood

>>2383897
if jeremy gets up on that stage and doesn't announce the party I will be very annoyed

>>2383897
I am looking forward to the fist-fights between locals and palestine supporters.

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>>2383871
>so you can have white skin and not be white?
Here's a blonde haired, blue eyed White person! Hitler would've been jealous as fuck.

>>2380074
>>2380073
I have to assume being in the government is a poisoned chalice at this point. We're at the stage now where things just keep on getting worse, and you'll be hailed a hero for so much as pausing the decline, let alone improving thngs. Why does anyone become a politician at this point? Eating shit for a few decades so you can get a corporate job down the line just doesn't seem worth it.

>>2383863
</pol/ack when he's confronted with multiple sentences in one post:
>I hope the illegal migrants you love so much stab you to death, traitor scum

What do you think the government should do to increase the amount of money it has to spend?
Obviously you can raise tax but is there anything else?
What is the left wing view on state owned enterprises as a means to generate funding?

>>2384084
I think the government should generate revenue by recording videos of Keir Starmer being sodomised in various scenarios and then charge people to watch them. It would be a similar mode to PPV sports matches but without the sport.


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