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Recent news:
Last thread lasted many months, so keep in mind these events are separated by weeks.

Back-and-forth negotiations between the SDF and STG (Syrian transitional government).
STG attacks Lebanese tribes in Beqaa Valley again to "combat smuggling", withdraws quickly.
Clashes erupt between the STG and the Druze population in Jaramana. They're defused quickly.
Low-intensity insurgency continues in the coast.
More unsuccessful negotiations between the SDF and STG.
ISIS bombs a church.
Syria gets a new shitty emblem.
More negotiations between the SDF and STG. This time the US sided seemed to have sided with Turkey and the STG.
STG attacks Suwayda governorate, a majority-Druze province that has been de-facto autonomous since the fall of Assad. They get pushed back at first but are now trying again.
Israel bombs the shit out of Syria in response to the Suwayda offensive. The MoD building takes heavy hits. The conflict is still ongoing as of this thread's creation.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Slavyangrad - Also posting a lot of news about Syria recently
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
t.me/rybar - Russian channel. Posts a lot about Syria too
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/WarMonitors
https://nitter.poast.org/bosni94
https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligence
https://nitter.poast.org/sayed_ridha
https://syria.liveuamap.com
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>>2392500
>I don’t care about whether beheadings are happening or not, the Druze are executing civilians by direct orders of the IDF.
People here have really weird ideas about how alliances work.

>>2392473
as opposed to what, listening to those advancing Israeli interests? this conflict is about to widen right up, and the druze are partly responsible for putting all of the Syrian people at risk

>>2392505
>as opposed to what, listening to those advancing Israeli interests?
You're right we should advance NATO interests instead. Long live the moderate headchoppers!

>>2392503
The Zionist entity is essentially a US proxy in the Middle East. It’s not that deep bro.

>>2392510
Syrian is in NATO now? xDDD

>>2392512
So is Turkey which is an actual NATO member. Did it ever occur to you that this is essentially a spat within the Western camp and we shouldn't take a side?

>Israeli collaborators chopping syrian children's head off
uhhh this is clearly a both sides issue cuz syria opened up their market a bit

>>2392519
Anon, the Syrian government was literally installed by the West with the express purpose of turning it into a pro-Western proxy state. Turkey (i.e. NATO) was their main foreign backer. As soon as it got into power HTS began kissing Israel's ass and persecuting Palestinians and resistance factions operating in Syria. Where the fuck were you the past 14 years?

>>2392505
>as opposed to what, listening to those advancing Israeli interests?
Have you considered not being a simp?
There is no need for you to believe any rando because they posted on reddit or twitter. You'll find out for certain in time anyways

>>2392521
>blah blah blah
The number one danger for the Syrian people is Israel pressing up to their gates and threatening their territorial sovereignty. I do not want a situation where Israel can sieze more of the Golan or whatever. I believe Israel wants to create a land bridge through syria to connect with the kurds for a future strike on Iran. This can't be allowed to happen! The Israeli collaborators are more of a danger to the Syrain people than it's closest NATO ally Turkey.

>>2392523
I'm not afraid of confronting the truth

>>2392517
I’m not taking a “side” taking a side in this conflict has no bearing for us since we aren’t a part of it. All I’m saying is that the Druze are murderous psychopaths who are an arm of the Israeli government as a proxy. The Druze are there to destroy southern Syria and ethnically cleanse the south for resettlement by Zionist settlers. These are facts. The only correct “side” to take here is for a revolutionary Syrian working class army to be formed to disarm Druze and all and any factions not loyal to the Syrian working class revolutionaries.

>>2392527
Anon the Syrian government is already fiercely anti-Iranian and pro-Western, and frankly the rise of HTS was probably the greatest foreign policy victory for Israel since 1967. In both cases its part of an effort to expand Western domination in the region and encircle Iran. This is a localized conflict between two junior members of the Western coalition where victory of either side will support US interests. Are you actually unable to grasp the concept of not having a dog in this fight? Nobody is forcing you to pick.

>>2392530
>All I’m saying is that the Druze are murderous psychopaths who are an arm of the Israeli government as a proxy.
That's true of the STG as well just replace Israel with Turkey and the US.
>The Druze are there to destroy southern Syria and ethnically cleanse the south for resettlement by Zionist settlers.
And the STG is there to turn Syria into a buffet for Western corporations.
>The only correct “side” to take here is for a revolutionary Syrian working class army to be formed to disarm Druze and all and any factions not loyal to the Syrian working class revolutionaries.
That would include the STG.

It's a piss vs shit war.

>>2392535
you still believe Israel and USA interests are the same? did you just completely ignore the war with Iran that Israel tried to mousetrap trump into?

>>2392539
Broadly speaking they are the same, thats why they're allies. They diverge occasionally of course but only intermittently and often over things like method rather than goals. Taking Iran as an example, the US and Israel both want to overthrow the Iranian government, but the US wasn't willing to go to war to do it.

>>2392542
and how exactly does the USA benefit from a balkanized syria? especially if it strengthens the Israeli ability for a war with Iran, a war the United States doesn't want?

>>2392537
Then we are in agreement. If what Syria was dealing with was with national liberation struggles then I’d be for it as I am definitely for with Palestinians but what’s going on in Syria is just a convoluted fucked up mess of proxies running wild massacring civilians left right and center for the benefit of Israel. Sectarian infighting is the best explanation of what this is. The only possible route to a united Syria is definitely not this transitional US proxy but most likely an independent revolutionary Syrian organization, if not revolutionary at least a national struggle for independence from the US and Israel. Of course the US would not approve of this and would join in and start bombing Syria.

>>2392546
Balkanized Syria can never threaten Israel, remember during the Yom Kippur war Israel was almost defeated and it took several tank airlifts to resupply the Zionist army

>>2392546
Americans might not want war with Iran but the Trump regime definitely does.

>>2392552
yes but we just established Israel and USA have diverging interests

>>2392553
so why didn't they take the Israeli bait a few weeks ago? they had the golden opportunity to decapitate Irans leadership but they didn't!

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People’s Liberation Army (Syria) when?

>>2392555
The fuck are you talking about? They dropped bunker busters in Iran. People never thought Trump would directly get involved and they did. Also Israel was the ones taking out the leadership with their air strikes unless you mean them just killing the Ayatollah. You are so fucking stupid.

>>2392567
you forget trump gave them a three day heads up so they could get all the enriched uranium out. the strikes accomplished nothing and a war didn't break out. America and Iran both got what they wanted and Israel was left in the cold. Israel made a huge gamble to get trump involved and it didn't happen . So what was the fucking point of Israeli attacking first? it was to mousetrap trump into a war with Iran that FAILED. the Israel american interests have diverged in the middle east and you people are slow on the uptake

>>2392546
I don't think they care either way. Whether Syria is Balkanized or united under a pro-Western
government makes no difference to them.
>>2392552
>during the Yom Kippur war Israel was almost defeated
Yeah by the Egyptians lmao. The Syrians never made it past Golan.

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Now that I look at it, it makes sense why Israel thinks it can handle and semi-control south Syria. The area is pretty smudged and small between the Golan and Suwayda, and the population itself isn't that large (1 million combined in Daraa and Quneitra governorates).

>>2392575
I wouldn't say Syria is critical for the USA or British interests but this situation is hugely embarrassing for them. They spent 13 years trying to oust Assad and when they finally do, and after spending political capital lifting sanctions and normalizing relations with Syria, Israel, a model example of the Democracy they're trying to push in, busts in and starts fucking everything up. Id be pissed. How is anyone supposed to take western 'democracy' seriously?

>>2392577
Dar'a is full of weapons and people who will fight, or so they say.

>>2392458
account deleted lol

>>2392611
That account was a pro isis guy btw iirc.

>>2392571
Israel literally is an American proxy and they have done 0 stuff to reprimand Israel. The last time this happened was when Reagan was in office, a much different world order than is today. Look at everything Israel does as missions set out by the CIA or NSA.

>>2392611
Wtf lol. Didn't expect that. Very annoying guy who defended the Islamist constitution & curriculum reforms back in the early days of the HTS government.

>>2392626
I have notices a specific muslim brotherhood type who used liberal arguments to support wahabism (aka the druze commit genoside ,iran commited genocide on sunni syrians etc)

>>2392611
the druze got him

>>2392623
this doesn't answer the question of why Israel attacked Iran first when it knew it needed american help for anything to be accomplished, and it doesn't answer why americas reply to israel begging them to declare war was a big fat NO

>>2392461
>ISIS, Al Quesa, FSA, and HTS all bled into one another and had blurry/porous boundaries between them
This is an important thing that many people don't know and was why many people who knew their shit didn't trust any Islamist group no matter how "moderate" they were supposed to be.

Still, there are some groups that were very selective and toed some sort of party-line instead of inclusive vibes-based Jihadism, such as Hurras al-Din who had links to Al-Qaeda Central and followed their orders (this is why the US drone-striked lots of them after the fall of Assad, with HTS help/intel).

>>2392630
those types said iran was pro-israel and pro-america.

>>2392626
Guy also said that ISIS did nothing wrong and that Yazidis were just big meanies.

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>>2392594
>liberal democracy
Those are slogans for the vooters. NATO cares that the oil and the rest of the trade keeps happening on their terms and for that Israel is key, and building up the "Shield of Abraham". Whether they kiss the ring and increase their Zionist collaboration or become fractured enough that they don't need to be asked for the Zionists to use their land is not that important. An ally or a buffer between Israel and Iran.

https://abrahamshield.org/en/plan

>“The warnings in Damascus have ended - now painful blows will come,” Israel’s Defense Minister Israel Katz warned before the strikes. “The IDF will continue to operate forcefully in Suwayda to destroy the forces that attacked the Druze until their complete withdrawal.”

>Moments later, he shared a video of the strike live on Syrian TV, with the caption where a Syrian reporter is frightened: “The painful blows have begun.”

AANES sends emergency aid to Syria’s Suwayda amid humanitarian crisis
The Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES) announced on Thursday the dispatch of emergency humanitarian aid to Syria’s southern governorate of Suwayda, in response to worsening living conditions and service disruptions.

In an official statement, the AANES said, “We have closely monitored the extent of the suffering our people in Suwayda are enduring, including severe shortages of essential supplies and widespread service outages.”

The AANES emphasized that this aid delivery is “only the first in a series of initiatives that will continue based on available resources and emerging needs.”

The statement also conveyed full solidarity with the people of Suwayda and stressed the importance of protecting civilians and shielding them from the consequences of conflict and violence.

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Apparently the brother of Issam Zahreddine participated in the Suwayda clashes alongside the Druze factions jej.

>>2392668
>NATO cares that the oil and the rest of the trade keeps happening on their terms
this is self contradictory. Israel is proving themselves to *the* destabilizing force in the region. how exactly does the flow of oil and money flow into western NATO pockets when Israel is starting another civil war NATO just wrapped up and won? doesn't make any sense.
>Those are slogans for the vooters
these are slogans for the countries NATO wants to have a color revolution in. Israel is fucking up democracies image everywhere. the USA is telling them they are pushing nations into the arms of China

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Sectarian attacks by mobs against Druze in Aleppo university.

There are also other sectarian attacks in Jaramana and the small Druze area in Idlib.

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Context: There are currently still clashes between Bedouin groups and Druze factions on Suwayda countryside, and before the government offensive there were many sectarian Sunnis volunteering to head to Suwayda themselves to fight.

As you know, Julani cucked out and told everyone to go home. However many groups and tribes are refusing the government's orders and are planning to go to Suwayda to fight alongside the Bedouin tribes themselves.

We might be seeing the long-predicted showdown between the STG and their more extremist supportive elements.

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>>2392763 (samefag)
More vids of convoys and gatherings vowing to go to Suwayda.

Unless the Syrian government decides to yolo a third time, these guys won't have drones, tanks, APCs or some sort of command organisation so they're most likely gonna lose. Especially if Israel decides to do airstrikes against them.

>>2392500
>The Druze are massacring civilians by the anon who is always posting images of these things happening.
Yeah probably. You can expect this sort of thing.

>Hamas never beheaded children or executed civilians
They killed some civilians. They shot some when they saw them, set people's houses on fire and gunned them down as they ran out, and tied people hands behind their backs with zip ties and then blew their brains out. Normal stuff.

>>2392521
>As soon as it got into power HTS began kissing Israel's ass and persecuting Palestinians and resistance factions operating in Syria.
My question is whether HTS is going after Palestinian factions generally or is letting Hamas and Fatah operate while outlawing Palestinian factions that were controlled by Assad's glowies like the PFLP-GC.

>>2392611
>account deleted lol
>>2392631
>the druze got him
But how they did that… that's the mystery of the Druze.

Israeli drones spotted in Daraa. Potentially going to target Bedouin groups or militant convoys.

>>2392775
are they coming from all over syria?


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