Recent news:Last thread lasted 2 days, so these events are separated by hours.
STG stalemates in Suwayda after the Israeli bombings.
STG withdraws due to the Israeli pressure.
Many civilian massacres and violations are uncovered after STG forces leave. At the same time, Druze commit atrocities against Bedouins.
Sectarian attacks against Druze outside of Suwayda.
Bedouin tribes announce a mobilisation against the Druze of Suwayda, vowing to continue the fight without the government.
Most tribes join convoys heading for Suwayda. Many sectarian non-tribals also do.
Tribals advance slowly through Suwayda.
More convoys.
Druze launch a counter-offensive that retakes some villages.
Stalemate at front.
More convoys.
Very recently government calls on the tribes to leave. They refuse. Reports of government attempting to block roads.
Israel seems to intensify its airstrikes a bit.
Links:t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Slavyangrad - Also posting a lot of news about Syria recently
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
t.me/rybar - Russian channel. Posts a lot about Syria too
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/WarMonitorshttps://nitter.poast.org/bosni94https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligencehttps://nitter.poast.org/sayed_ridhahttps://syria.liveuamap.com Stole this from Reddit so take it with a brain of balt.
>Report on the Latest Agreement:
>The situation is being monitored on the ground through reconnaissance aircraft, alongside the presence of field intelligence elements affiliated with mediating parties. An agreement has been reached to hand over medium and heavy weapons from all participating parties.
>As a primary guarantor, Jordan has mobilized its forces in preparation for any emergency and is ready to intervene immediately within its borders in case of an escalation threatening its frontiers.
>Lengthy and complex negotiations were conducted through mediators, without any direct communication with "the Blue Entity." The Syrian side led the operation with skill and intelligence to ensure the cessation of confrontations and resolution of the conflict, while securing guarantees to hold perpetrators of violations accountable from all parties.
>Internal security elements will be integrated with local forces, as previously agreed, and any violation of the agreement by any party will be met with force and decisiveness immediately.
>State institutions will soon resume operations in the province, and electricity and water will be restored to Daraa and Sweida within 24 hours.
>Combing operations and the pursuit of gangs will continue for at least two days, in cooperation with residents and local elements.
>The relevant ministries are preparing to send necessary aid and supplies to the two provinces tomorrow morning.
>There is currently no information regarding the future of Al-Hajari, and this is not considered a priority for the Syrian state, which is focused on protecting civilians and addressing the situations of similar individuals at the appropriate time.
>Finally, the state will emphasize the need to reject hate speech and incitement, and anyone who promotes, engages in, documents, or incites such acts by any means will be held accountable.
>>2395318 (samefag)
Oh wait if you're talking about the overall situation, then you're wrong in that the STG committed violations against the Druze, which caused fights between them and the Druze factions and then their first retreat.
Israel intervened on the side of the Druze later, though keep in mind al-Hijri already had prior connections to the Israelis.
Beheading video. Person was already dead though.
Also, is it the same guy in
>>2395384 ?
>>2395434Could say the same about the Druze, though.
But yeah, there have been multiple reports of friendly-fire among tribals.
>>2395475Bedouin tribes militias.
Yes it sounds dumb but the anon who likes the misc videos seems to really like the term.
>>2395475How many times do you guys have to complain about that? It's an accurate translation of what they describe themselves as (عشائري). The other is "clannish" which means something different in English. Liveuamap also uses this term.
Yes, there are non-tribals among them. Doesn't matter though.
>>2395476>>2395486Close, but not really. Not every Arab with a known tribal affiliation is a bedouin.
>>2395642Thx for the update. I like to check in on how different internet tribes react or split during events like this.
I was checking in on some Zionist types in save-the-Druze mode.
Another one is Mansour Ashkar. He's Israeli Druze and ex-IDF special forces officer, and his politics can be described as neoconservative. But he has a direct line of contact with Druze militia guys in Suweida, and has been giving a much grimmer and more pessimistic take on the situation. I'd say these military guys (like him) can have a one-sided point of view, it's like "good guys vs. bad guys." He thinks Israel are the good guys and the Muslims are the bad guys. It's like listening to a cop. But I do think he knows or understands how merciless, aggressive, and predatory these jihadi guys are, which these NAFO idealists do not understand.
Mansuor meanwhile is suggesting (as he's heard, and this has been reported) that Israel isn't going in because the U.S. is holding Israel back. I don't know but this is part of a theme: it's unclear vis-a-vis the U.S., who's telling who what to do. Leftypol hasn't figured it out yet. I don't think anybody knows. However, the other thing – it's in Israel's interest for Syria to be weak and divided. That seems like a big contradiction for these guys, because they want Israel to save the Druze, and Israel to intervene more directly than they have (more than a few air strikes). But like I said, it's in Israel's interest for Syrians to fight each other like in Lebanon, which is very bad for the Druze because they're outnumbered and outgunned.
>>2395642>the big nafo schism.no surprises, they were all driven by the hate towards Russia, now that
the enemy of my enemy is gone it has became all against everyone else.
>>2395858For non MENAoids this is a Turkish FSAtard channel, and they streamed this before being interrupted by the presenter.
Literal ISIS-tier sex slavery and no one in the world or the region bats an eye because it is inconvenient to their class interests. Westerds keep metaphysically supporting resistcucks while we organize to overthrow our regimes.
>>2396002Not pointed out in that video is the fact that the pants also match.
Too schizo for me though, and it's not like he (or they) will be punished anyway.
>>2395830Thanks to the death of the arabian socialists the country has went back to old tribal raids.
Assad you mighty dog.
>>2394625 (samefag)
SUWAYDA HOLDS (but unironically)
(also they're israeli-backed, so don't shill for them. it's just funny seeing two retards fight)
https://thecradle.co/articles/battle-in-suwayda-where-israel-and-turkiye-clash-over-syrias-trade-routesBattle in Suwayda: Where Israel and Turkiye clash over Syria’s trade routes
<In post-Assad Syria, Druze-majority Suwayda emerges as ground zero in the regional war to dominate land routes linking the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean.
>With the fall of former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad and the ascent of Ahmad al-Sharaa (Abu Muhammad al-Julani) to power in Damascus – with backing from Turkiye – Syria has shifted from an integral part of the Axis of Resistance to contested terrain between rival regional projects.
>Two competing visions have emerged: Turkiye's “Development Road,” a proposed transport corridor connecting Basra to Turkiye and onward to Europe; and Israel's “Peace Line,” which aims to link the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean via Jordan and the occupied port of Haifa.
<The regional battle for Syria's southern gateway
>These infrastructure corridors are not mere economic initiatives; they are the battlegrounds of a new regional order. Suwayda, long viewed as peripheral, has become a strategic flashpoint in this war of logistics. This Druze-majority province has become a potential gateway to a regional war over trade and transportation corridors. These plans extend into neighboring Lebanon, too.
>The strategic weight of Suwayda stems from its location at the nexus of these rival projects. The province could serve as a vital artery for Ankara's overland ambitions or as a chokepoint threatening Tel Aviv's efforts to bypass Turkish and Iranian territories.
>Thus, the vital southern Syrian governorate of Suwayda suddenly finds itself on the frontline – not due to a dispute over a localized conflict, but because it is a strategic key in the railway battle where roads become borders and pipelines turn into fronts.
>Meanwhile, Suwayda’s Druze religious leadership issued a strongly worded statement rejecting the use of their region as a bridge for foreign projects that ignore their sovereignty or existence. The statement declared, “Those betting on the violation of Suwayda will lose. The mountain’s fate will be decided in the mountain itself.”
>The elders emphasized Suwayda’s geography as a crossroads and demanded the opening of land corridors with Jordan and with areas held by the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in the north.
<The Old-New Katz Project
>In November 2018, then-transport minister and current Israeli Defense chief Israel Katz unveiled at an international transport conference in Oman the “Railway of Peace” project, aiming to connect Persian Gulf countries to Israel via Jordan, as part of a strategic plan to boost economic integration and link West Asian markets to Israeli Mediterranean ports.
>Katz, who arrived less than two weeks after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s surprise meeting with the late Sultan Qaboos in Muscat presented the project as a massive infrastructure undertaking involving railway lines linking the port of Haifa in northern Israel to Gulf cities via the Jordanian capital Amman, with the possibility of connecting Palestinians to Haifa port to facilitate trade exchange.
>Katz said during the conference:
<“This project is not just a bridge for transport, but a bridge for peace and economy among the region’s peoples. We aim to create faster, cheaper, and safer transportation, opening new horizons for economic and political cooperation.”
>He added:
<“The Railway of Peace will allow avoiding security risks at the Strait of Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab and open vital alternatives for shipping goods between the Gulf and Europe.”
>The project stands out as an important alternative, allowing Persian Gulf states to bypass security threats at the Strait of Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab, providing a safer and cheaper land route for goods transport, with significant economic benefits for all participating countries, including Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, other Gulf states, and potentially Iraq and Syria.
>The project also plans to establish modern logistics centers, such as the cargo zone in Irbid, Jordan, to boost the local economy.
>Katz highlighted the project’s importance for Palestinians, saying, “By connecting Palestinians to Haifa port, we give them a chance to participate in global trade, which will bring them economic and social benefits.”
>Jordan and occupied Palestine’s inclusion were floated as economic sweeteners. But the true aim was regional hegemony through infrastructure.
>While Katz’s statements were laced with euphemisms about peace and development, the underlying logic was clear: use transport infrastructure to normalize Israel's regional role while locking out Iranian and Turkish competitors.
>Despite most Arab states involved lacking official diplomatic relations with Israel, the project received clear American support, with then US envoy Jason Greenblatt considering it part of Washington’s efforts to push the “Deal of the Century” for regional peace.
<Geoeconomics as political warfare
>Alongside the Turkish–Israeli competition over railway corridors through southern Syria, Saudi Arabia’s ambitious project NEOM – along with the infrastructure system linked to the UAE’s Al-Ain 2030 – emerges as a third actor reshaping the geopolitical game.
>The project aims to transform northwestern Saudi Arabia into a global economic and logistical hub, including railway lines and transport networks extending from the heart of the Arabian Peninsula to the Red Sea, inevitably repositioning regional trade routes.
>This shift directly ties into Tel Aviv’s plans to build a railway line stretching from Eilat (adjacent to NEOM) to Aqaba, then to southern Syria, and onward to Beirut or Tripoli.
>This functions as a land-based extension of NEOM – and a strategic complement to Riyadh’s ambition to bypass chokepoints like the Strait of Hormuz by linking the Gulf to the Mediterranean.
>Here, Suwayda becomes an indispensable strategic node that could serve as the gateway crossing from Syria's occupied Golan to Kurdish controlled areas in Syria and Iraq.
>The Israeli media and officials have at times referred to this as the route of “David's Corridor” – a corridor that reimagines Israel’s role in the region through infrastructural dominance, fusing settler colonialism with logistics.
>In other words, NEOM’s rise as a maritime-land axis enhances the geopolitical value of the Aqaba–Suwayda line, pushing the occupation state to be more stringent. For Tel Aviv, any Turkish expansion southward is an existential threat to these designs. For Ankara, securing Suwayda is essential to asserting influence over the Levant's southern flank.
<Suwayda becomes the battlefield
>Before setting his sights on Suwayda, Sharaa's rise was marked by brutal campaigns in the coastal region, including massacres of Alawite communities that cleared space for Turkish-backed dominance. With those operations complete, attention turned south toward the Druze stronghold.
>In the post-Assad vacuum, Sharaa chose Suwayda as the base for consolidating power and advancing Turkiye's project – with the aim of securing Syria's southern border crossings, creating strategic depth, and extending influence toward Lebanon and Jordan.
>Turkiye backed this trajectory through direct and indirect agreements with Syrian factions aligned with it, particularly Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), which now plays a central role in administering areas from Idlib to the eastern Hama countryside, where the desert meets the roads leading south toward Suwayda.
>Ankara’s ambitions have also expanded toward Lebanon – especially the northern city of Tripoli and its surroundings – where it has built social, political, and economic influence through networks of institutions, associations, and newly naturalized citizens.
>The port of Tripoli, which Turkiye hopes to transform into an alternative to Beirut’s port, is envisioned as a key station along the regional transit route.
>Sharaa based part of this conviction on secret understandings made in the Azerbaijani capital, Baku, involving Syrian and Israeli figures under unofficial Turkish auspices. These understandings were interpreted as implicit approval for his southward expansion, in exchange for guarantees against the return of Iranian influence and Turkish commitments not to threaten Israeli security.
>But this ambition triggered an Israeli red line. Netanyahu warned of the emergence of a “new southern Lebanon” in Syria. Katz declared, “the Druze are our brothers, and we will not leave them alone facing this expansion,” signalling readiness to intervene. Soon after, Israeli warplanes targeted Damascus and Sharaa-aligned units advancing south.
>Ankara, meanwhile, has publicly reasserted its own red lines. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated after a cabinet meeting on 17 July:
<“We did not agree to the division of Syria yesterday, nor today, and we will categorically not agree tomorrow. Those who descend from the well, holding on to the rope of Israel, will sooner or later realize what a serious mistake they have made.”
>In reality, there is no open confrontation between Turkiye and Israel, but a tacit division of spoils, with each pursuing its own corridor ambitions while managing the conflict through proxies and backchannels.
<The vegetable truck incident
>The security explosion in Suwayda did not arise from an explicit political decision but was triggered by a seemingly minor incident: a dispute over the cargo of a vegetable truck at a checkpoint. Intelligence information later revealed that this incident was the spark igniting a wide clash involving local Druze groups, Sharaa’s HTS-led factions, and remnants of armed groups unofficially reintegrated on the ground with indirect Turkish support.
>The incident quickly escalated into an open battle involving Israeli reconnaissance drones, local armored units, and armed groups bearing conflicting flags – some close to Ankara, others linked to extremist organizations recently reactivated. Within a week, over 700 were dead.
<Washington watches, regulates, but won’t decide
>The US was not absent from the scene. Washington expressed its welcome to Sharaa’s assumption of power on multiple occasions, seeing him as an internationally acceptable figure compared to the previous government. However, it did not grant him a free mandate to move southward.
>US envoy to Syria, Tom Barrack, clearly stated that Washington supports Syria’s territorial unity but simultaneously warned against unilateral actions that could threaten regional stability.
>In truth, Washington's role has grown – but as an observer rather than an active player. This passivity has created room for regional powers like Turkiye and Israel to draw new influence maps across a devastated Syrian geography.
>Washington appeared keen to regulate the pace but was unwilling to make a decisive decision. It seeks to avoid direct confrontation with Turkiye or Israel, but is also not ready to allow unchecked Turkish expansion.
<The war of projects
>The battle for Suwayda is not really about sectarianism or governance. It is a war between two infrastructural visions: one Turkish, one Israeli. Each project aims to dictate the routes of trade, energy, and influence in post-Assad Syria.
>Sharaa, despite his roots in Al-Qaeda and ISIS, has become a placeholder for Turkish interests. But without genuine alliances or internal legitimacy, he faces the full weight of Israeli hostility.
>The Battle of Suwayda is the first real test for the post-Assad era. Its outcome will shape not only Syria's future borders, but the entire transport and power map of the region. It will also determine whether the new Syria will follow Turkiye’s Development Road or Israel’s so-called Peace Line. >>2396170 (samefag)
More celebrations.
>>2396247 (samefag)
It's pretty funny how they all look the same like some cartoon.
How tribal conflict happens.
Was reading about the kidnapping and death of the Israeli Druze teenager Tiran Fero in 2022. He was badly injured in a car crash near Jenin (this is a tough Palestinian city with a strong history of militant resistance), and died in the local hospital. The Druze claimed Fatah guys (Jenin Brigade types) pulled him off life support in the hospital and were holding his body hostage. Were they? I have no idea but suspect that the specific claim they killed him is not true. (The IDF also claimed he was already dead when the Fatah guys got ahold of the body.) But the Fatah guys did reportedly try to exchange the body for some of their own prisoners.
The Israeli Druze weren't having it, and threatened to storm Jenin themselves if they didn't get Fero's body back. The IDF freaked out and went into crisis mode. Before it got out of hand, the Jenin guys handed over Fero's body with no concessions. Attached pics as to why.
>>2396321Kurdish rally. There are yellow SDF flags, Kurdish national flags, and TEV-DEM tricolors:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_of_North_and_East_Syria>>2396350I'd would believe that the
>The agenda was to reshape the Middle East under Turkish influence, according to then-Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu’s vision, explained in 2011 at a “Turkey Investor Conference: The Road to 2023” organized by Goldman Sach>This was not in the interest of the U.S.—nor of Israel—because it excluded Israel and positioned Türkiye as the hegemonic power.it's true, if it weren't because Türkiye explicitly exports stuff to the zionists, but through other means. I mean, one OSINT channel continuously shows how Baku and Istanbul coordinate the dispatch of oil ships through different ports to hide to the naked eye how they cooperate with Israel, unphased, gaily, almost, with love.
but yeah, the US did want regime change in Türkiye, that's a given. the US used the opposition leader in the exile as a threatening figure to remind them that the US will overthrow their political leadership at will. but they have to be committed to NATO.
>>2396574 (samefag)
Lol Syrian health minister and the social affairs minister sitting outside Suwayda governorate.
Humiliating.
>>2396660 (samefag)
Israel is probably making sure that the STG doesn't attempt to suddenly betray the agreement via:
1. Presence of IAF over their airspace and constant threat of airstrikes.
2. The Jordanian Army massings on the border of Suwayda, ready to be ordered to swoop in at the first sign of violations of the agreement.
>>2396660 (samefag)
Correction: this airstrike might have instead been only on tribals attempting to take Ariqa
>>2396676The terrain looks the same and I don't see any STG personnel.
>>2396765 (samefag)
Could also be STG shills trying to paint the Ariqa clashes as a ceasefire violation by the Druze rather than the other way around. Idk.
>>2396641>Second video is a guy both complaining about the blocking and also glazing & simping for Julani, like that'd do somethinglike
>please, please, master Ziolani, open us the road for Allah, we want our first women captured to rape and violate, please, gibs.?
>>2396777Yeah. Old news from yesterday. Barrack also said he consulted with Jordan in arranging the agreement.
The exact purpose of the massings is unknown but Jordan is a known Israeli puppet, so…
Autonomous administration to send urgent aid convoy to Suweida
Armed clashes and bombardments ongoing in Suweida since July 13 have plunged the Druze population in the region into a serious humanitarian crisis. As a result of attacks by forces affiliated with the Syrian Transitional Government and jihadist groups linked to them, the city's infrastructure has collapsed, health services have been suspended, food supplies have been cut off, and electricity and water services have been disrupted.
<‘Not political but humanitarian aid’
The Democratic Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (DAANES) announced that it has prepared an urgent aid convoy in response to the humanitarian crisis in Suweida. DAANES emphasized that the aid is entirely intended to meet the basic humanitarian needs of the local population and does not serve any political purpose. The aid is meant to be delivered as soon as possible in coordination with international organizations.
“Humanitarian aid must be kept separate from political or military considerations. This aid has been organized in response to the call from the people of Suweida to address their urgent needs,” DAANES said.
The convoy contains essential supplies, including medical equipment, medicines, and first aid materials. Medical support is the most urgent need, especially since hospital services have been completely shut down in the region.
>Ready to move with once safe passage guaranteed
Officials stated that the only obstacle preventing the aid convoy from reaching the region was the failure to open a safe passage corridor. They added that logistical planning had been completed and that the convoy would be able to reach Suweida within a week.
<The crisis is worsening
The Autonomous Administration called on the international community to facilitate the delivery of humanitarian aid. It emphasized that aid should be provided not only by the Autonomous Administration but also by all humanitarian organizations: “The basic living conditions of the people of Suweida have fallen below critical levels. Action must be taken without delay.”
Humanitarian crisis growing in Suweida: Thousands queue for bread
On July 13, heavy fighting broke out in the southern Syrian province of Suweida as a result of attacks by Salafi mercenaries against the Druze population, leading to a major humanitarian crisis. The attacks are being carried out by a coalition of groups including ISIS, HTS, Al-Qaeda, SNA, and other jihadist organizations. The orders for these attacks are being issued directly by Jolani, who is known for his past ties to ISIS and is currently being promoted as the “President of the Interim Syrian State.”
Tribal militiamen from other regions also poured into the province to take part in the attacks against the minority. The Druze are considered heretics and infidels by radical Sunni Islamists.
According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, nearly a thousand people were killed in the violence in Suweida. Thirty-two of the dead were Druze fighters, 262 were Druze civilians, including dozens who were executed by government-backed jihadists, SOHR said yesterday. According to the Observatory, the dead also include over 300 members of the self-proclaimed transitional government and 21 Bedouins.
Contrary to a ceasefire announced by Damascus for the region, attacks by tribal militias and jihadists from various groups under the umbrella of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) – the Islamist coalition of self-proclaimed Syrian president Ahmed al-Sharaa – continue in rural areas.
The ceasefire declared in Suweida was violated by armed groups affiliated with the Damascus regime. This morning, the villages of Rim El-Hezem and Til Shihan were targeted by howitzer fire. Local sources reported that the attacks were mainly directed from the city of Dera, with groups coming from the villages of Wealxa and Erîqa beginning looting and pillaging.
Locals compared the events to the clashes in Latakia and Tartus, commenting that “a massacre similar to the one on the coast is being repeated in Suweida.” “Everything in the region is seen as spoils and is being taken away,” they said.
A source providing information from the city stated: “A large number of new people have been settled in the Salxad region. These groups are advancing towards villages in the east. We want to move to areas far from the city center because the attacks are coming from Dera. We are committed to the ceasefire, but the other side's attacks continue unabated. The Damascus regime is attacking the Druze people under the guise of tribes. Terrorist groups first enter as fighters, then present themselves as peace advocates. This is a tactic."
Some citizens who fled Suweida due to the attacks have begun returning to areas where the clashes have partially subsided. However, they face the same problems: insecurity, lack of services, and shortages of basic necessities.
As a result of the violence in Suweida, the civilian infrastructure has almost completely collapsed: electricity, water, and internet have been out for days, the central hospital is unusable, and there is a shortage of medicine and medical personnel. Residents report dramatic conditions. “There is only one bakery left in the city that is still functioning – thousands of people are standing in long lines just to get bread,” explained a local contact from Suweida. The supply situation is catastrophic, with many people unable to obtain even the most basic necessities. The injured and sick are often left without treatment and do not survive the attacks.
>>2396817 (samefag)
Nvm. Confirmed by SOHR and video evidence.
>>2396885 (samefag)
Second prisoner exchange failed.
>>2396641>>2396777>>2396773He is saying "If Joulani wanted one of my women I'll give to him" I presume he mean daughters but he could also be referring to his relatives and wives
cuckbros keep losing
>>2396985 (samefag)
Btw, in the second video he says that he and everyone around him is an "easterner". This means they're Deiris (from Deir ez-Zor and its environs).
As I've said earlier, Deiris are the most tribal population in Syria percentage-wise and would bolster tribal numbers a lot once they arrive. STG erecting roadblocks has acted as a limiting factor for that but even then they've still managed to become the largest group of tribals by regional origin on the past 2 days.
>>2396781>>2397018these
>>2396770 same men would behead their daughters because the women married the wrong religion/ethnic group.
>>2397133 (samefag)
Whoops, old vid.
>>2397213> was a nasty civil war triggeredby the CIA, they alraedy had this plan, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realmhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/sep/03/worlddispatch.iraqand Brzezinski's book.
>>2391297>legitimate proteststhis same headchoppers are the same that wanted to topple Assad.
>not surprised you supporterd want to see the syrians suffer even more>suffer more.the only suffering was created by the US, Turks, Arabs kigndoms and zionists.
>>2395591Do tribals have a central command? Who is commanding them? Tribals sound like they have several: have all they come around and decided to go kill the Druze just like that? Is it the syrian goverment? Someone said they're bedouins type shit, so desert men who like in tents and go around with goats and sheep? I guess it's not just one tribe, but several, did they have a meeting in order to go to war? Why? Is it like there are several tribes (clans, so it's kinda like a family structure, so I'm picturing, as an analogy, that a tribe is like a gipsy family with it's patriarch, am I correct?) who don't coordinate between each other and just go with the ak-47 just for the jihad vibes? What the fuck is this?
The term tribal fucking sucks, invent a new one because the moment I read this thread it feels like I'm reading a "let's talk in this thread like if it were the XIII century and Genghis Khan just started his invasion of northern China".
Mortar fire targeting the towns of Ura and Al-Mejeimar, two towns that have been relatively unscathed throughout this whole thing despite being close to the borders of the governorate.
This lends further support to my theory in
>>2397193 the STG has only effectively closed the major roads and not the minor ones.
>>2397241 (samefag)
Can I just point out the herd behaviour of both the STG and tribal offensives? A town was completely ignored up to this point simply because the major road doesn't go through it.
Do the STG generals even look at maps when planning shit? Do the tribals even know where they are or do they just blindly follow the convoys and where everyone else is going?
>>2397251It literally is just like that.
It's kinda not as bad simply because the Druze aren't a highly organised army that can do frontline warfare and promptly respond to every maneuver blunder, but it still is literally just like that.
>>2397256This is the most retarded civil war ever. Actual mad max level of clownfoolery between two sides that are being both controlled and funded by the Mossad meanwhile employing the arab equivalent of armed nomadic romani clans (unless someone explains to me what the fuck a tribal is, this is my headcannon, which I'm pretty sure it isn't that different from reality).
This fucking blows, I hope one day that the middle crescent alongside Arabia will be submerged like atlantis, that's the only good ending for that god forsaken land.
>>2397237>Do tribals have a central command?No. There are several clan councils but they just do stuff like negotiation and whether to withdraw or not.
>Who is commanding them?No one. They organically split themselves into ad-hoc vibes-bases squads.
>have all they come around and decided to go kill the Druze just like that?I guess you could say so. It was caused by social media about Druze retaliations against Bedouins after the STG left.
>Is it the syrian goverment?Not exactly, but they definitely played a role behind the scenes to encourage them.
>so desert men who like in tents and go around with goats and sheep?Not all Bedouins, but a lot are.
>did they have a meeting in order to go to war? Why?No. See third Q&A.
>Is it like there are several tribes (clans, so it's kinda like a family structure, so I'm picturing, as an analogy, that a tribe is like a gipsy family with it's patriarch, am I correct?) who don't coordinate between each other and just go with the ak-47 just for the jihad vibes?Yes, exactly.
>>2397222>how's the weather in langley faggott.
anything else to say, chudfed?
>>2397355 would even dare to say that at some point they'll all turn their backs on al ziolani and kick him out, as the puppet in Afghanistan was kicked out.
Yea, Jolani's thing was always to be riding the trick of appearing to be driving the wave, whilst actually having little control. I don't predict him being around for a long time either. Only real question is how messy it gets.
>>2397368the US tried to get the most nationalistic government they could get on board in Afghanistan, that at the same time was willing to accept the west's demands to exactly avoid the things I am theorizing will happen in Syria, and it was for nothing. these people hate to the guts the idea of being told what to do.
>>2397370 (I agree with this post)
the west probably will intervine in Syria at some point, more directly.
It's morning now.
The prisoner swap in
>>2397408 has worked spectaculary, numerous families and individuals successfully exchanged.
STG has left the remaining depopulated villages in the governorate and is said to have "handed" them to the Druze factions, although there's no video evidence of the Druze there but they will probably get to them this morning.
Almost no reports of clashes for the past 6 hours. Some straggler tribals are probably still present here and there, but they no longer pose a military threat.
IT'S OVER>>2397670 (samefag)
Drone downed and it's not a Shaheen, just a cheap commercial drone. So it was done by a tribal.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/32086US, Turkiye give Syrian Kurds 30-day deadline to integrate with Damascus
>The US and Turkiye have given the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) a 30-day deadline to integrate its forces with those of the Syrian government, Middle East Eye (MEE) reported on 21 July, citing sources familiar with the matter.
>The US-backed SDF, led by Mazloum Abdi, signed an agreement in March with Syrian interim President Ahmad al-Sharaa, pledging to merge the SDF and its agencies with the new Syrian army and government in Damascus.
>However, little progress has been made to implement the agreement. Sharaa, the former ISIS commander, has rejected Abdi’s demand that SDF units be incorporated into the Syrian army as intact units with their own commanders.
>The interim Syrian president has demanded that SDF fighters, who include Kurds from the People’s Protection Units (YPG) and government-affiliated Bedouin tribesmen, be incorporated as individuals.
>“The SDF was told that not all of its armed units would be integrated into the Syrian army. Units excluded from integration would be disarmed, and overall control would remain with the Syrian government,” one source said.
>However, US and Turkish “patience is wearing thin.” In a meeting last week, the SDF was given a “30-day ultimatum to join the Damascus government,” sources told MEE.
>Officials from the political arm of the SDF, the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES), have repeatedly called for a federal system that would allow Kurdish control of the northeast, including Syria’s oil fields.
>The US and Turkish demands come in the wake of a major attack by forces linked to Sharaa’s Defense Ministry and Internal Security on the Druze majority Suwayda Governorate this week.
>Druze self-defense units have sought to repel the attack in which government forces sought to take control of the governorate. Government forces joined by armed Bedouin tribes massacred hundreds of Druze civilians, including through the use of beheadings and field executions.
>Since the fall of former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in December, armed Druze factions have refused to give up their weapons, as the new authorities in Damascus come from the ranks of the former Al-Qaeda affiliate, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), whose clerics regard Druze and Alawites as heretics and apostates deserving of death.
>The Druze insistence on keeping their weapons was strengthened following the Syrian government’s massacre of over 1,600 Alawites in March. The massacres occurred after Alawite men dismissed from the army and security services after Assad’s fall gave up their weapons through a reconciliation process. >>2397913Or what? Deadlines need to have consequences to be deadlines.
>>“The SDF was told that not all of its armed units would be integrated into the Syrian army. Units excluded from integration would be disarmed, and overall control would remain with the Syrian government,” one source said.I guess they mean the YPJ. Not confident tbh that Abdi has the power to tell the YPJ they need to disarm and go back to the kitchen.
>>2397919See
>>2395384 and
>>2395432And also
>>2396002 is potentially relevant.
So far I've only seen beheading videos done by tribals.
>>2397934>The consequences is a Turkish invasionIf that was so easy they'd have done it already.
>>2397952>This is a huge L for Jolani so far, right?Yes. A large consiquence is that he has lost the support of many of the beduin/arab tribes. This was only a matter of time but seems like he's doing a sped run.
>>2397987They havent because
>Turkey would invade behind them>half of their territory is inhabited by the dumbest cavemen tribes that riot every week for muh UmmahI expect HTS to invade, get pummeled and cry for Turkey, and cause an international scene when Israel bombs Syria again
>>2397784>>2397786I'd reckon they're a Lebanese formation at this point. They have a website and saw some pics and videos and announcements of events. The pic is the commemoration of one of their members killed in an Israeli drone strike. Their founder, Antoun Saadeh, is also buried in Beirut and they make pilgrimages to his tomb.
They've had a presence there for a long time and want reunification with Syria. A bit awkward now.
Umm Al-Zaytoun has been secured by the Druze hours ago.
How the battle went according to Druze sources is very funny:
>druze attack>tribals in the town request help on social media (great military communication channels, guys)>they overrun the tribals due to their low ammo and low numbers (see >>2397862 )>they set up defenses to the north to brace for the incoming tribals who have seen the social media posts>every single time a small group of tribals comes close they instantly engage with the druze, dying or retreating quickly since they are few in numbers>the tribals keep arriving in this piecemeal fashion at a manageable rate for the druze defenses, always dying quickly>not fucking once did tribals consider to wait a little away and beef up their numbers for a good attack, always just going into the meat grider>eventually the rate of the waves slows down, night settles and fighting completely stopsNone of this has been verified yet, but it's not inconceivable. Your average tribal might have expected the town to be contested or still mostly controlled by other tribals. So they get close to it, suddenly realise the town is controlled by Druze, engage them in a panic and then die. Or they get shot at and killed while walking slowly to it.
Wallahi this is the dumbest conflict I've witnessed in my life.
>>2397913>>2397934>>2397939>>2397934100% guaranteed Turk invasion. Also,
>>2397984 is right, once the US dwindles to 0 the military assistance and presence on the already dwindled assistance and presence on that territory, it's game over for the Kurds.
>>2397991 with the exception that Israel can't overextend up to East-Northern territories of Syria. these are large territories for the zionist army, which isn't exactly a large army, plus the Turks have them right there.
>>2398518it's a HTS propagandistic account, knittedly related to al-ziolani.
>why should we care.exposing them it's good.
>>2398544I did, also
>100 people who never had a good word to say about themlet's help that stays the same!
>>2398547Someone is lying, either the SDF or the ME (initial source of The Craddle).
Have the SDF addressed this:
>Sharaa, the former ISIS commander, has rejected Abdi’s demand that SDF units be incorporated into the Syrian army as intact units with their commanders.Have the Kurds addressed this information?
>>2398322>the tribals keep arriving in this piecemeal fashion at a manageable rate for the druze defenses, always dying quickly … Wallahi this is the dumbest conflict I've witnessed in my life.I mean people are blaming Jolani for this, and sure whatever (I don't care for him) but it looks like as much total chaos and lack of any real organization or plan.
>>2398568>What exactly is the difference between the SSNP and the Ba'athists?Honestly I have no idea and am the wrong person to ask, but my instincts tell me they might've been useful as a cutout or vector of influence for Syrian glowies in Lebanon. Kind of in the nature of these groups, especially there.
>>2398733>but it looks like as much total chaos and lack of any real organization or plan.I've already said that conspiracy theories about the STG being directly involved with the tribals are false. They really are a mess of retards without any central command.
STG only fanned the flames with sectarian hatred against the Druze on their propaganda after their retreat, but that's it.
>>2398985No matter how many times people tell me SSNP is not fascist, the fact that the flag of the
Social Nationalists is a swastika-like symbol with colors similar to the
National Socialists makes me go hmm.
>>2397682 (samefag)
Different perspective. You can also see a dead civilian in his car.
The recorder of the older vid can be seen to the right of this one with his phone when the execution starts. Both recorders are dead.
Xitter thread on the government investigation into the sectarian massacres in the coast months ago.
https://xcancel.com/sayed_ridha/status/1947538410388000860Tl;dr they say they didn't do anything wrong themselves. Also SOHR's higher death figures are more accurate than the Turdey-backed SNHR.
>>2399130Tbh I'm surprised there even was an investigation at all. Good for PR I guess.
>Also SOHR's higher death figures are more accurate than the Turdey-backed SNHR.Did they break it down into civilians and combatants and how many killed by each side? Without that it's difficult to determine who was closer.
>>2399130 (samefag)
The investigation also said that the amount of armed individuals (excluding the insurgents) recorded was 200,000 who arrived from all parts of the country, both as part of the government and by their own initiative.
This + the whole recent tribal mobilisation shit just shows you how weak and non-existent government control over the country is, and how that it is far from disarmed (as I said earlier the STG doesn't care cause the armed groups are Sunni and mostly on their side).
>>2398709>holly shite, lol, fucking thrown under the bus.Was just reading this:
https://archive.ph/JnIgP#selection-1609.0-1614.0>Suwayda violence boosts Kurds’ leverage as US Syria envoy, SDF chief meet<The July 19 meeting in Amman between US envoy to Syria Tom Barrack and the commander in chief of the Syrian Democratic Forces, Mazlum Kobane, went markedly better than their first face-to-face encounter 10 days earlier in Damascus, with the sectarian violence that's gripping the majority-Druze province of Suwayda temporarily strengthening the Kurds’ hand, four sources familiar with the substance of the meeting told Al-Monitor. “Barrack was nicer; the ice between them was broken,” one of the sources said, without elaborating.Things change fast anon, how often has it been over any minute now for the SDF?
>>2398547>Middle East Eye reported on Monday that Turkish and US officials had delivered a 30-day ultimatum last week for the SDF to join the Damascus government. However, the sources briefing Al-Monitor said no such ultimatum had been issued by US officials. More on the weird absolute disintegration of the SAA during the opposition offensives, at least in Aleppo.
A large and crucial militia colluded with HTS and defected to it.
https://www.syriaintransition.com/howaleppofellMuch too large to post here, but it looks like Jolani is preparing to attack and conquer northern Lebanon at the behest of Israel and as compensation for the land they've taken around the Golan heights.
Will ‘Greater Syria’ and ‘Greater Israel’ Collide or Co-exist under the Al Qaeda Regime?
<Author's Note: Events are moving very fast in the region and rumours are rife—the information in the article is accurate but updates will be required in the near future.https://beeley.substack.com/p/will-greater-syria-and-greater-israel?
A Syria surrendered to HTS, or a democratic and inclusive Syria?
Turkey under Erdoğan's leadership plunged Syria into a bloody civil war. When the popular protests began, there was no armed force or opposition in Syria. Turkey was the main instigator of this process and opened its borders to mercenaries such as ISIS. Turkey has played a destructive role at every stage of the bloody civil war. Now, just as it did at the beginning, it is once again playing a negative role. The Baath regime has been overthrown, and the Syrian people could have made a new and beautiful start. However, Turkey has invested all its resources in HTS (Hayat Tahrir al-Sham) and sought to make it dominant. On the other hand, it has advanced on the Kurdish autonomous regions, launching military and psychological campaigns.
HTS attacked Alawite regions under the name of Baath remnants. Massacres took place. Now, attacks and massacres are being carried out against the Druze. Despite the violation of all rules of war and crimes against humanity, Turkey has unconditionally supported HTS. They have not even condemned the crimes committed against civilians. The media under Erdoğan's control have taken sides against the Druze.
Turkey imposed a unitary, monist, and rigid centralist regime in Syria to prevent the Kurds from gaining any status. To such an extent that the Turkish National Security Council (MGK) took decisions on these issues at its meetings. It has regarded its involvement in the political developments of another country as its right, even to the extent of meddling in its internal affairs. At the core of all this lies anti-Kurdish sentiment. Kurds have been constantly threatened, and anti-Kurdish alliances have been formed with groups like HTS.
Turkey is working to establish so-called Kurdish-Turkish unity and brotherhood within its borders. Talks are underway with Imrali [Prison Island where Abdullah Öcalan is held]. Leader Apo [Abdullah Öcalan] has shown extraordinary flexibility and determination to end the war and open democratic channels. The PKK has ended its existence and decided to bring the armed struggle to an end. Nevertheless, the government has not taken any serious steps and it continues its anti-Kurdish alliances and efforts in Syria. The initiatives in Syria are increasing concerns and worries regarding the resolution of the Kurdish issue. The Kurdish people have gained consciousness and are aware of what is happening, and are questioning it.
If they are going to acknowledge the Kurds in Turkey and renounce hostility, why are they so focused on the destruction and elimination of the Kurds in Syria? Why are they supporting forces such as HTS, an extension of Al-Qaeda? Why do they prefer HTS to the Kurds and the autonomous administration they have established? Is HTS closer to Turkey than the Kurds? These are the questions the Kurdish people are asking.
Turkey is involved in all kinds of conspiracies and games with HTS in an attempt to leave the Kurds without status. It continues to organize and incite Arab-populated areas such as Deir ez-Zor and Raqqa in particular to break away from autonomous administration. They used Bedouin tribes as a pretext to oppress the Druze and launch military operations. They claim there is a conflict between these tribes and the Druze, and that government forces are intervening. However, it is clear that this was a premeditated plan. The government forces did not go to stop the conflict. That was not their intention. They went and attacked the Druze, burning and destroying Suweida. They left hundreds dead in their wake, spreading terror. Had Israel not intervened, this massacre would have resulted in ethnic cleansing.
The Turkish government wanted to make HTS dominant in Syria despite the fact that HTS did not have a strong base in Syria. Nor did it have a mindset or program that would encompass the peoples of Syria. If the forces of North and East Syria, the Druze, the Alawites, and secular and democratic circles had participated in the interim government, there would not have been such polarization and massacres. Instead of establishing a balanced government, everything was handed over to HTS. Turkey supported HTS in particular and imposed its policies on Syria. The result was massacres, destruction, and new waves of displacement!
The UK played the most negative role alongside Turkey. The UK persistently imposed Al-Sharaa on the Syrian peoples. It worked to get the US and Europe involved as well. Despite these massacres, the UK has not changed its stance against HTS. Now, at least institutions such as the US State Department are saying that “HTS must be held accountable for these massacres.” The US Congress has begun to take action, albeit partially. Some are starting to say that things cannot continue this way with HTS. However, the UK remains steadfast in its support for HTS.
The organized and democratic force with experience in Syria is the Autonomous Administration. The SDF [Syrian Democratic Forces] is the trained and disciplined military force that has fought against ISIS. The US and the UK, and especially Turkey, are working to eliminate these forces and hand them over to HTS. There is no army in Syria. The so-called army is ISIS and Al-Qaeda-affiliated groups that have committed massacres against Alawites and Druze. They want to hand over a force like the SDF to these groups.
The administration of North and East Syria has over a decade of experience. It has embraced all religions, beliefs, peoples, and cultures. It has succeeded in keeping them together in peace. It has established a democratic administration. They want to dismantle this inclusive and solution-oriented structure and place it under the command of HTS. This is what Barrack meant when he said, “one army, one government, one state.”
A Syria surrendered to HTS, or a democratic and inclusive Syria? The choice must be made accordingly.
>>2399200>A leaked meeting document reviewed by Middle East Eye indicates that Ocalan, who led an armed struggle against Turkey for nearly 40 years, is strongly opposed to any potential regional dominance by Israel.
>The minutes, which detail a meeting between Ocalan and a delegation from the pro-Kurdish Dem Party on 21 April, record the PKK leader’s concerns about the possible "Gaza-ization" of the region, a term he uses to describe Israel’s willingness to attack neighbouring countries at will, potentially leading to the partition of those states.…
>Ocalan’s anti-Israel stance is well-known, as his group was based in the Bekaa Valley in the 1980s, cooperating with the leftist Palestinian liberation groups. In the document, Ocalan presents himself as the leader who could stop Israel from becoming a hegemonic power in the Middle East.
<"The Netanyahu-Trump comings and goings are all about this. It is a five-stage strategy. The first three - Gaza, Lebanon, Syria - are done. Only two remain: Iran and Turkey," he said.
<"The goal is to build Israel up as the dominant force shaping Middle Eastern strategy."
>Ocalan added that the Kurds are an essential part of this strategy, and he is the only person who could prevent the PKK’s Syrian offshoot, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), or its headquarters from falling under the influence of Iran or Israel.…
>In November, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar openly called for closer relations between Israel and Kurdish communities, saying that his country should reach out to Kurds and other regional minorities that are "natural" allies.
>Ocalan said the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad also contacted him in Moscow, where he was seeking refuge from Turkish authorities in 1998, telling him they could hide him even in Russia.
<"A plan is in motion to turn the region from Sulaymaniyah to Afrin into another Gaza," Ocalan said.
<"Israel has prepared all the groundwork for this."
>After Assad’s fall in December, Israeli public news outlet Kann reported several engagements between Israel and the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a US-backed armed group led by PKK offshoots.>MEE reported in December that Israel had been planning to divide Syria into four regions, including ones for the Druze and the Kurds, to keep its neighbour weak and divided. The plan has infuriated Turkey.>Ocalan added that Israel’s war on Gaza was already over, and now, he claimed, Israel was seeking to draw the Kurds into a full-blown conflict against Turkey - "into this Gaza-ization process," he said….
>Ocalan, however, says Turkey is entering a major democratisation process through its negotiations with the Kurdish political movement.
<"Strategic advantage is shifting to Turkey; only a child would fail to understand this," he said.
<"Should we hand that advantage to Israel?" >>2401582Did you even read what was posted?
Actually you know what, don't bother. We know you didn't.
>>2401569It is so pathetic that this man sold out everything he believed in just to get out of his cushy prison. What a pathetic individual, he always has been since he started on the liberal hippie democratic confederationist shit. But he sold out all of that even and the only chance of freedom for the Kurdish people in Turkey just because he is an old pathetic man now who just wants an easy life and book deals in some Western Country where he will be hailed as a peacemaker.
You know what? Chairman Gonzalo NEVER sold his people out like this. Any information they got from him was literally from torture. He never told his people to disarm, never begged to be let out in return for sucking fascist dick, he fought until the end. Maybe that's why liberals hate him so much but love Ocalan. The PKK should have bombed him in prison to get rid of the person destroying their liberation movement, then blamed it on Turkey for PR.
>>2401707>You know what? Chairman Gonzalo NEVER sold his people out like thisbruh why did he boil those babies who were innocent and did nothing to anyone?
yeah sure maybe he never sold out but he behaved like a serial killer against the proletariat.
>>2401713THEY NEVER BOILED BABIES. Some scalding water was splashed on teenagers, horrid but like it didn't kill them.
>>2401714I support the Kurds just not their retarded leader.
More on the new Syrian economy:
https://www.reuters.com/investigations/syria-is-secretly-reshaping-its-economy-presidents-brother-is-charge-2025-07-24Tl;dr mostly the same as Assad's apparatus but now the guys who ran Idlib's economy oversee the high-level operations. Mid- and low-level remains unchanged as HTS struck out deals with the tycoons and gave them immunity in exchange for cooperation.
Also more privatised but you already know that.
>>2401719>I support the KurdsOnly in a very abstract sense.
People like you would have them fight and die as long as it ads to the 'epic of struggle', even when it ends in a complete loss.
Religion brain 4sure.
>>2401731You have social democrat brain. Disarming fighters means a massive step back in the stage at which the liberation struggle is at. It is much more difficult to get people to start fighting than it is to tell people who are already fighting to give up. Giving up is the complete loss.
Working within the system will never get them to achieve their stated aims, especially of their democratic confederalist stuff. If you have given up on liberation and building your socialist society, and instead are just building regional devolution or something, that is a complete failiure and objectively worse than fighting on.
>>2401655nta
he literally says:
>says Turkey is entering a major democratisation process through its negotiations with the Kurdish political movement. >>2401707The OG sitdown
Spot the difference
>>2402173Idk.
This one will be owned by a Saudi company, and other Saudi companies are gonna initiate a construction spree on their newly-acquired holdings in the country, so there's some cheekiness going on here.
>>2402128 (samefag)
More.
Video is from a few days earlier. Guy is still alive and active.
>>2401569>Ocalan added that the Kurds are an essential part of this strategy, and he is the only person who could prevent the PKK’s Syrian offshoot, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), or its headquarters from falling under the influence of Iran or Israel.How much "influence" does Iran actually exert over its partners like the Houthis, Hezbollah, or Hamas? What would be so bad about the SDF falling under Iran's "influence?"
Like the alternative is now disarming and putting your trust into expansionist nationalists under the assumption that this show of good faith will cause them to abandon their hardline nationalism and adopt some kind of accommodations for Kurdish nationalism. This seems pretty incredible both from the fact no justification has been given that Erdogan actually intends to treat with them in good faith, as well as the fact that the Turkish political and social situation seems even more disrupted than ever.
Instead of trying to prevent the SDF from "falling under Iranian influence" it seems more like Ocalan is clearing the way for them to fall under Turkish bombs. Maybe he sees that as an acceptable sacrifice to protect Turkish Kurds, but expecting Erdogan to extend political concessions out of appreciation for showing their bellies seems really naive.
https://www.newarab.com/news/drone-attacks-slash-iraqi-kurdistan-oil-output-70-percentDrone attacks cut oil production in Iraqi Kurdistan by more than 70 percent
<A spate of unclaimed drone attacks forcing the closure of oil fields in Iraqi Kurdistan is further straining the autonomous region's financial crisisMore than 70 percent of Iraqi Kurdistan’s oil production has been shut down due to recent drone attacks targeting vital facilities.
The northern Iraqi autonomous region has seen multiple attacks this month, targeting key oil fields in Erbil, Dohuk and Zakho, which had previously produced hundreds of thousands of barrels per day.
The facilities are operated by different local and international oil firms.
No group has claimed responsibility for the attacks, and both the federal government in Baghdad and the Erbil-based Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) have refrained from directly accusing any party, despite parallel investigations.
The damage led to a partial or complete shutdown of operations, reducing production from approximately 300,000 barrels per day to around 80,000 and negatively impacting the region's budget, which relies heavily on oil revenues, according to The New Arab’s sister site, Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.
The spate of attacks and significant impact on the region’s oil infrastructure comes amid heightened tensions between Erbil and Baghdad over oil revenues and export controls.
Long-standing legal and technical disputes have also kept a key oil export pipeline to Turkey closed since 2023, further complicating already strained ties.
Turkey has recently submitted a draft proposal to Iraq to renew and expand an energy agreement between the two countries to include cooperation in oil, gas, petrochemicals and electricity, an Iraqi oil ministry official told the state news agency late on Monday.
The statement came after Ankara announced the end of a decades-old agreement covering the Kirkuk-Ceyhan oil pipeline.
An advisor to the KRG Parliament, Mahmoud Khoshnaw, confirmed that the drone attacks directly targeted several key oil fields in the region, including the Khurmala field southwest Erbil with a production of approximately 100,000 barrels per day.
In Zakho, the Peshkhabur and Tawke fields each produce approximately 107,000 barrels and the Ain Safni around 12,500 barrels per day.
He continues that the Sarsang field in Dohuk produces 30,000 barrels a day, while the Shekhan field northwest of Erbil produces around 48,000 barrels per day.
The halt in production at these fields has led to a drop in the region’s total production from 280,000 barrels per day to just 81,000, representing a decline of more than 70 percent, Khoshnaw tells Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.
This further complicates the economic crisis in Iraqi Kurdistan and exposes the region’s financial stability to real risks, given the KRG’s heavy reliance on oil revenue, he adds.
Direct losses incurred by the foreign companies running the oil fields has exceeded $11 billion in one year, with investments of around $400 million suspended.
These attacks, says Khoshnaw, carry "dangerous messages," claiming that Baghdad was more affected by these drone attacks and the implications than Erbil.
"These operations are paid for with the aim of muddying the waters, assigning blame, and distracting public attention from more pressing issues facing the country," Khoshnaw said.
>>2402437based honestly
fuck the kri's government
HOLY FUUUUUCCCCKKKKK TOTAL CUCK OUT(if true, this hasn't been confirmed yet)
SOHR says that it has obtained the terms of agreement from the Israeli-Syrian meeting this morning:
https://xcancel.com/syriahr/status/1948514722887991659Some pro-SDF account translated it in pic related, if you need it.
>>2403041 (samefag)
Fake lol. Tribals shelling Umm al-Zaytun. There's very few of them now though.
>>2403062>>2403345>>2403911You should stop using plebbit for war-related shit in general. The website's submissions are slow and constantly playing catch-up, every post is something from a few hours ago at best. There are too many submitters (some of whom are bots) whom you don't know which side they are biased towards.
Just select a couple of accounts/channels on Telegram and Xitter that you know the biases of (make sure you have a healthy dose of all sides) and that's it.
CONFIRMED: they're turning Mezzeh air base into a civilian airport. It's also being partially sold since private entities can invest and have a stake in it.
Previously, those were just rumors.
https://xcancel.com/Sana__gov/status/1949503187091918910>>2407072>>thread picks up activity only after someone posts something rojava-relatedIt's always the usual suspects too, not saying anything but getting mad and interjecting whenever anyone else does.
Wonder why that is.
>>2407025if they did, why they never hasted their re-integration to Syria.
if they didn't, let's see if they are prepared for all the shit they have.
>>2407036>The government collapsed in their areas in 2012>not actively involved in overthrowing Assad.c'mon now, I can show you the countless number of Kurds leader openly asking for Assad's head.
>what was the alternative other than getting armed and organized?not getting themselves into a death trap for being some greedy morons, perhaps?
>>2407046 100% agreed.
>>2407072>And it also happens to be fake news by Turkish news outlets anyway lol.it'd be interesting when things turn out to be as this comment:
>>2406946 >US has given Turkey the greenlight to carry out a military operation against the SDF if talks fail, according to Turkish mediasays, which is probably closer to the reality. after all, it's not the first time trump has been seen to negatively interact with Kurds.
I specifically remember androgynous blob lindsey graham making up a case in favor of Kurds in Syria, describing how they useful. nothing of that graham said is true now that Assad is gone.
>>2407169 (me)
>>2407072these are the articles by that time
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/graham-reaction-white-house-kurdshttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/09/lindsey-graham-says-trump-abandoned-kurds-in-syria/3917516002/All graham's, 2019:
>We destroyed ISIS with the help of the Kurds," he said. "We can’t abandon the Kurds now. We can’t turn it over to Turkey. To think that will work is really delusional and dangerous>He’s making the biggest mistake of his presidency by assuming the Kurds are better off today than they were yesterday. That is just unbelievable.>I think there’s a wide-held belief in the Christian community (that) the Kurds have been good allies, they’ve been good to Syrian Christians>This decision to abandon our Kurdish allies and turn Syria over to Russia, Iran, & Turkey will put every radical Islamist on steroids>It is imperative we continue to partner with Kurdish forces to prevent ISIS from coming back. I do not trust or believe that Turkey, Russia, or Assad have the capability or the desire to protect America from radical Islamic threats like ISIS>“I will call for their suspension from NATO if they attack Kurdish forces who assisted the United States in the destruction of the ISIS CaliphateA bunch of nonsensical, weak arguments that aren't sustained by today's situation in Syria.
Trump's only and damming response, in 2019:
>“Lindsey Graham would like to stay in the Middle East for the next thousand years with thousands of soldiers and fighting other people’s wars. I want to get out of the Middle East,” Trump said, adding “The people of South Carolina don’t want us to get into a war with Turkey, a NATO member, over Syria.”now takes a bigger scale, now that Russia, Iran, and Assad are gone.
>>2407180the difference I see is that Assad was moving towards granting a couple of million of Kurds with Syrian nationality before the Arab spring, where even the UN recognized the effort. Oh well, back to square
1 0 (oops, no square to start if the rabid Ottomaners take over Syria) now, but no shame in be part of the extinct ethnic groups, either.
>>2407024>Transitional Government's blockade of the city of Suweida continues.SO they are using semi-soft power now?
what was the city that withstood like two years besieged by the fucking alqaida? damn, it was so long I am starting to forget very important events now.
however, I think the besieged people will outlast alziolani.
>>2407864 (samefag)
Longer version + Arabic translation.
>>2408435people don't to cuba for this, it has an actual tourist industry, it's relatively nice and has good relations with latam and spain, doesn't cruise ships even stop there?
You're probably thinking of like the freaks who go to, usually capitalist, countries and then go to the worst slum or whatever to shove cameras in people's faces and kind of revel in it in a 'omg you live like this' way.
>>2408342oh shit, you are right. what a horrible to do, to give to the Kurds
NO federalism__.
it beats the shit out of NO federalism and being under the ground Syria’s transitional government has not supplied electricity to Suwayda for 17 days
On July 13, 2025, the Syrian Transitional Government forces, with the support of Bedouin and Arab tribes in the region, launched a large-scale attack against the Druze community living in the city of Suwayda. During the process, serious human rights violations such as massacres, looting, pillaging, forced displacement, and abductions were documented in the city.
The city of Daraa, which supplies electricity to Suwayda, is under the control of the Transitional Government. Electricity supply to Suwayda has been cut off since the start of operations, forcing hospitals, bakeries, and other essential service providers in the city to cease operations. The city has been without electricity for 17 days.
According to reports, electricity poles and cables between the cities of Daraa and Suwayda have been damaged or stolen in the regions of Theelê, Mezree, and Elxa. Sources in the region state that similar incidents have occurred before, but this time, due to attacks and an embargo on the city, the residents are unable to repair the damage themselves.
Due to power outages in the city, people are trying to charge their phones and meet their basic lighting needs using generators.
There are also serious problems with the supply of drinking water due to the failure of water pumps.
Transitional Government forces and allied tribes set up checkpoints around Suwayda, blocking entry and exit by road. The city's connection with the outside world has been largely cut off. This also made it difficult for humanitarian aid convoys to reach the area.
Through the mediation of international actors, a ceasefire agreement was reached between the Transitional Government and the spiritual leaders of the Druze community on July 20. However, according to reports from the region, the ceasefire is frequently violated and the embargo continues.
Although the ceasefire in Suwayda is technically in effect, security and humanitarian conditions remain critical.
>>2409154well, this is definitively not semi-soft power anymore. this is a hard power projection siege on a city.
>>2409174I bet you know how many times does the letter "A" appear in the Al-Bukhari Hadith compilation, and you ask to any other person if they do.
cope&seethe.
HTS cretins have been recorded killing people that answered to the question "are you a Druze" with "I am a Syrian" while gloating with a "what does that mean" while also allahu-akbaring firing-squad the people who answered
I am a Syrian. now, go glow somewhere else, you CIA/Mossad spook.
>>2409253>>2409218Begone.
Fagraeli forum invaders
>>2409393fuck israel, fuck al-ziolani, fuck
you.
>>2409888Russia let Assad's government fall. They could've dropped bombs on Idlib and deter the rebels, but did very little even if the SAA was disintegrating internally, and that they still have bases in Syria shows they made a deal with HTS.
Assad is never going to fully explain what happened.
>>2409891and as I said, a horrible thing to do, that beats the shit out of
NO FEDERALISM and being under the ground.
>>2410300that government never fully controlled Afghanistan, it was exactly like the US in Afghanistan: No major city controlled by the mujahideen/Taliban, but all rural areas with control of those people, until they USSR/US leaves, and the government collapses.
besides, the USSR left Afghanistan without giving full state control to the Socialist Afghan Republic.
I concede that the Socialist Afghan Republic withstood more than the US puppet government, which shows a more grassroot control.
the point stand still.
>>2410286Russia had a billion opportunities to kill off the FSA before deciding to put all of their capital on invading Ukraine and sat around to not upset Turkey. They also failed to give any investment into Syria and allowed Israel to bomb them at will.
They're a pretty shit ally as their track record goes.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/32273>Lavrov invites Syrian president to attend Russia–Arab summitLavrov:
>Of course, we hope that President Sharaa will be able to take part in the first Russia–Arab League summit, which is scheduled for 15 October.>There are many opportunities for a united strong Syria, we hope Russia stands with us on this pathway>Lavrov expressed gratitude to Syrian officials for their role in maintaining the security of Russia’s air base in Hmeimim and naval base in Tartous – both of which remain operational in western Syria under the new government.>>2410753they didn't want to attack nato, that's all.
>They also failed to give any investment into Syriawith what? Russia doesn't have the financial institutions like the US does, and with no oil, less ability to make things stable.
>They're a pretty shit ally as their track record goes.It's not their burden. and obviously, all of that it's a trap to weak Russia, if they go and intervine in a place where they might not be welcomed, similarly with Afghanistan.
Who wants what in Syria?
In Syria, massacres continue on one side, while negotiations unfold on the other. Despite efforts to rebrand and legitimize it, the mindset of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) continues to reveal its true face.
HTS has failed to establish an inclusive government. Instead of resolving conflicts through dialogue and democratic methods, it unleashes decapitating mercenaries upon the people. Wherever these forces go, smoke rises and hundreds of bodies are left behind. While people are already enduring massive devastation, they now face the added threat of HTS’s massacres, destruction, death, and forced displacement.
The meeting in Damascus, led by Tom Barrack, ended without any results. In his statements following the meeting, Barrack blamed the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and the Autonomous Administration. Rather than bringing the parties closer, building trust, or facilitating steps forward, his remarks served to obstruct the process entirely. As new efforts began to break through this deadlock, the Suwayda (Siweida) incidents erupted.
The attacks and massacres in Suwayda were widely interpreted as a plan to crush the Druze population, drawing criticism even from within the United States. Israel took a clear stance and intervened militarily. The events sparked concern and alarm in Europe and in the United States Congress.
Efforts to domesticate and legitimize HTS have not gone as planned. This led some actors to reluctantly acknowledge that the Autonomous Administration stands as the most reasonable force and model for Syria. Nevertheless, Turkey continued to invest all of its political capital in HTS. It did not even condemn the massacres committed against the Druze and Alevi populations. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan recognized that the tide was turning against HTS.
At the same time, it was announced that talks would take place in Paris between the SDF, the Autonomous Administration, and the Damascus government. In response, the Turkish government took action, issuing threats against the administration in northeastern Syria and pressuring Damascus not to attend the Paris meeting under those conditions. As a result, the talks scheduled for 25 July were postponed.
Following this postponement, the United States facilitated direct discussions between Syria and Israel. In parallel, a meeting between France, the United States, and Syria was also arranged. It is clear that none of this happened independently of Turkey. By securing guarantees from the United States and France, they sought to bring Syria back to the negotiation table.
Statements such as “HTS will once again become the central government, and the unity and sovereignty of the state will be recognized” were presented to the public as outcomes of this trilateral meeting. These declarations reflect not only the goals of HTS but also those of Turkey. While pushing these demands forward, Turkey intensified its threats against the Kurds and the Autonomous Administration in an effort to strengthen HTS’s position.
Turkey’s primary goal remains the disarmament of the Kurds and the Autonomous Administration. But such a move would leave the population defenseless. While massacres continue across Syria and no one’s safety can be guaranteed, disarming the Kurds would mean abandoning them to slaughter. Turkey insists, “My security comes first.” Yet there is no real threat of massacre looming over Turkey. It possesses a powerful military and has already implemented strict security measures along its borders. Moreover, the Kurds are not a force lying in wait to attack Turkey. On the contrary, the Kurds have consistently been the target of attacks. Turkey invaded Kurdish regions and forced people to flee their homes.
On 10 March, a memorandum of understanding was signed between the SDF, the Autonomous Administration, and the Damascus government. In this agreement, it was acknowledged that the SDF and the region would be integrated into the state structure. This confirms that the Kurds, Arabs, and other peoples of the region are not pursuing a separate state. What they are demanding is a decentralized, democratic Syria.
They say, “For over ten years, we have governed ourselves and built our own institutions; we do not want to lose those gains.” Nor are they demanding a separate army. What they want is for the existing military structure to be integrated into the Syrian army, as a part of it, not dismantled, but allowed to continue functioning where it is, as a guarantee of protection for the people.
Why is the people’s desire to protect themselves so strongly rejected? The population does not trust the groups affiliated with HTS, nor the remnants of al-Qaeda and ISIS. These forces have committed massacres before the eyes of the world. Moreover, the people have known them not just recently, but since the early years of the civil war, they have witnessed their crimes firsthand.
The United States and other members of the international coalition are not unaware of what is happening in Syria. They, too, have been present on the ground and know very well who is who and what has been done. If they act with fairness, they will not abandon the people to the hands of such forces.
However, relations and negotiations between states are based on interests, not on principles of justice and human rights. Turkey, using its membership in the NATO, continues to bargain with the United States and other powers against the Kurds. It seeks to exclude the Kurds from all political processes and to prevent them from gaining any form of status.
Turkey’s number one priority in Syria is to leave the Kurds without political status and to dismantle the SDF. However, the Kurds and the Autonomous Administration aspire to live in peace and coexistence within a democratic Syria. They are not demanding freedom only for themselves or their regions, they are demanding freedom for all of Syria, and especially for women.
>>2410889>Barrack blamed the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and the Autonomous Administrationdaaaaamn
>Rather than bringing the parties closer, building trust, or facilitating steps forward, his remarks served to obstruct the process entirely. As new efforts began to break through this deadlock, the Suwayda (Siweida) incidents erupted.damnnnn
>In response, the Turkish government took action, issuing threats against the administration in northeastern Syria and pressuring Damascus not to attend the Paris meeting under those conditions. As a result, the talks scheduled for 25 July were postponed.>HTS will once again become the central government, and the unity and sovereignty of the state will be recognizeddammnnnn
>My security comes firstlmao. nato concerned about "my security first".
>In this agreement, it was acknowledged that the SDF and the region would be integrated into the state structureWHETHER YOU LIKE IT MY WAY OR NOT.
>Why is the people’s desire to protect themselves so strongly rejected?self-determination for me, but not for thee.
>However, the Kurds and the Autonomous Administration aspire to live in peace and coexistence within a democratic Syriaoh, poor babies. they don't demand the head of alziolani, his overthrown, like they once did in 2011, and just co-exist peacefully with headchoppers.
oh, the meek, the tamed.
>>2410914it reeks in idealism that no one is buying, no one except the hands that types that text.
>>2411372How is Jolani a cuck? He's doing exactly what he was paid to do. He isn't being cucked out of anything. Everyone is getting exactly what they wanted out of the arrangement. Worse case scenario for him is that if shit in Syria gets too crazy he just leaves and retires to the west where he slaps his face on some propaganda book about the "lost dream" of a liberal syria or some shit, rich and comfortable and well rewarded for his service to the empire.
If anything, he's the bull fucking the Syrian people while Assad has to watch from his cuck chair in Russia.
>>2412172Because Syria is a whole different country?
>>2412167go back to reddit, radlib.
>>2412442Sus post.
Mena wants BOTH simultaneously balkanized AND UNITED Syria. There is no reason to waste energy on absolute domination. North Syrians and South Syrians and Kurds are different people and are different nations that have unions together such as trade agreements, military cooperation, and all three helping Palestinians together. They are stronger divided and have all the necessary unity via diplomacy. South is more Phoenician, North is more Arab. Etc
Who gives a shit what israel-cult thinks except Israel-cult. Go have your armageddon your religion is about all alone while the rest of the world cares not for petty shit.
>>2412551>Who gives a shit what israel-cult thinks except Israel-cult.I'm not saying take their interests into account. I'm saying Israel sees a weak and divided Syria as in their interest. They don't like HTS. The Israelis are like "they're Al Qaeda" and also that Turkey is making inroads into Syria, and that Turkey is a potential threat to Israel (potentially more than Iran is). That might be wrong (or might not be because Turkey could fuck them up), but that's the talk coming out of Israel, or so it seems. They don't want Sharaa to have an army that can threaten Israel, so the Israelis took to bombing as much leftover Syrian armor that they could as his forces overran Damascus. Because they don't trust him and find him very sus.
It's just paradoxical because there are Axis of Resistance guys who also don't like Sharaa because they see him as Al Qaeda, and they have to come up with these loony theories about how he's a Zionist agent. That's a cope.
YBŞ: We will defend Shengal with our lives!
The Şengal Resistance Units (YBŞ) released a statement on the 11th anniversary of the 3 August 2014 massacre carried out by ISIS mercenaries against the Yazidi community.
The statement said: "With unity and solidarity, just as we defended our existence on August 3 in the past, today we will continue on our path with the same determination. We will stay true to our promise of resistance and will defend Şengal at the cost of our lives."
The YBŞ added: "These attacks were not just a massacre, but an attempt at genocide — aimed at the annihilation of our culture, the abduction of our women and children, the killing of our elderly, and the suppression of our will. While the world remained silent, these attacks occurred with the collaboration of our neighbors and represent one of the greatest betrayals. Yet, from this destruction, life found a way. YBŞ was founded on the blood of martyrs and the tears of mothers. We are not a temporary formation — we are a legitimate and lasting defense force born from the suffering of the Yazidis. Yazidis can only be protected as long as they are defended by their own will, weapons, and organization."
The statement continued: "Our goal is to defend ourselves through our own strength. We draw our power from the principles of dignity and the right to life in Şengal. Those who previously failed to protect the Yazidi people and did not fulfill their responsibilities are now demanding that YBŞ lay down its arms. But our people must understand that such demands pave the way for another massacre. It is impossible to disarm before the true perpetrators of the genocide are held accountable, and before political, security, and cultural rights are guaranteed. Our weapons are the legacy of our martyrs' struggle, the voice of those who remained silent, and the defense of this still-threatened land."
The YBŞ also highlighted the significance of Abdullah Öcalan's call at the time, saying: "Thousands were saved based on Leader Apo's call, which laid the foundation for real resistance. The thoughts and stance of Leader Abdullah Öcalan will always remain a moral and ethical reference for our path and a measure of loyalty in the hearts of our people."
The statement then recalled the heroic struggle of the Kurdistan guerrillas, the YPG, and YPJ fighters, against ISIS attacks, stating: "They fought shoulder to shoulder with us, opening humanitarian corridors without expecting any conditions or rewards. Without their presence, our losses would have been much greater."
The statement commemorated heroes such as Mam Zekî, Egîd Civyan, Dilşêr, Seîd Hesen, Berfîn, Nûjîn, Bêrîvan, Zerdeşt, Dijwar, Şengal, and all other martyrs with respect and gratitude, saying they would always remain symbols of honor and freedom.
Despite efforts to block Shengal's self-defense project, the YBŞ affirmed its belief in the strength of its people: "Our will is stronger than any threat, and our organization is more resilient than any plot. With unity and solidarity, just as we defended our existence on August 3 in the past, today we will continue on our path with the same determination. Once again, we pledge: to our people, to our martyrs, and to the mothers waiting for the return of their children, We will remain loyal to our word of resistance and will defend Şengal at the cost of our lives. Our struggle will continue to build a reality based on a new freedom, justice, and the will of our people."
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