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Am i the only one here who is not opposed to RFK's idea of wellness camp for autistic kids from a Left wing perspective?

Like yeah i get the concern that these could be euthanasia camp for disabled kids in practice (even though i think this is mainly fearmongering, the rhetoric used by the Trvmp admin for autistic kids are clearly removed from the dehumanizing ones they used against migrants) but a wellness camp run by the state is what socialized healthcare means in practice.

The current model of autistic therapy which focused on a collaboration between psychiatrists and nuclear family units is kinda reactionary but above all just doesn't work. Most parents are not well equipped to handle an autistic kid and often resorted to either abusing or neglecting them. It makes more sense, both from a humanist and economic perspective, to pool these kids in a camp where a specialized staff of professionals will help them in a controlled environment. Feel free to disagree though i'm looking at this from a layman perspective
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>>2415602
How do I find the money to start a daycare for disabled kids? Where do I find people who will willingly work alongside me? Where do I find a building to buy? What if I have no expertise in this?

>>2413296
Both should be sent to camps.

>>2415602
>”disabled kid? LOL just start a business!”

>>2415550
the real redpill is that both pro-autist and anti-autist threads are made by the same person

This is not the way to handle mental health issues. What your saying is akin to shipping a bunch of bipolar people to a wellness camp and having them all packed in together and thinking theyll come out the other side with changed behavior. This is now how humans work. Humans are social creatures that reflect and fine tune their behaviors to those around them. U know what would help an “autistic” person? Giving them the tools to be independent and letting them learn and adapt instead of either coddling or giving them up to be handled by state actors akin to the police

>>2415659
Not every autistic person is capable of being independent. Some will require 24/7 care from a caregiver for the rest of their lives.

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>>2415676
And in the same token, if disabled kids are at the mercy of a fir-profit daycare centre, once the daycare shuts down they and their families are helpless.

The hard truth is that other than conscripted labor there is no place for autists and cripples in the revolution and constructing a communist society. Most of them live a parasitic existence where they extract more from the state than they can potentially contribute, and that’s not even mentioning that their existence is only possible thanks to liberalism entering its terminal decline. Seriously you would never have a society that coddled this many retards who were unable to live without constant care and attention until the 90’s and it’s sure as hell not going to be sustained when we’re waging open warfare against imperialism. The fact of the matter is that nearly all autists will die over the course of the revolution and its aftermath, and the sooner we accept it the sooner we can work on something that actually matters to the vast majority of people

>>2415682
>in the revolution
is anyone actually arguing the disabled in general can do anything at all in da revolushun?

>and constructing a communist society

eh, i dont care about imagining the future

>>2415685
I mean look at all the libs talking about how to care for the spergs like we have time for that shit and you tell me

>>2415692
>>2415692
Same for children, old people and women, trve communism is when from each according their productivity, to each according their intellectual quotient

>>2415682
The average third world autist contributes more labor power to society than the average westoid "worker"

Yes, first worlders contribute negative value & should be exterminated

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You support what a fascist says about camps . Lovely ..

The only good idea RFK and his health administration has is getting 7-0H off the shelves of gas stations and smoke shops

>>2415772
>le fascists (aka the liberal government i dislike) support it, ergo i must do the opposite
neither being for nor against it has anything to do with communism bud

I think RFK was slightly okay before he went into office and went total nazi with his surrounding officials, OP is probably baiting

>>2413218
Death camps for republicans.

>>2415602
This is the equivalent of your boomer parents in 2009 telling you to simply start your own business if you can’t find a job.

>>2415170
>When you’re raising a disabled kid, you need a village. Not everyone has that village and most leftists aren’t even willing to provide that village.
Or rather, that "village" disappears very quickly once your disabled kid's support needs become too much to handle, and their medical issues become too taxing on everyone around them.

Every family with an actual autistic kid I've met has been miserable.

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>>2416219
fuck off Hitler

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Yeah,being on the same side with an old fart having brainworms that equates autism to a mental disability

>>2416195
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_on_Severe_Autism
>president:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Escher
>immediate past president of:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Society_of_America
>the group has promoted the pseudoscientific belief that vaccines cause autism

I have not seen a single case of "severe autism" that can't be this quickly debunked. You just need to get an actor to wear a helmet, do a funny voice and break something and boom, you can sell supplements to ivermectinite parents.

>>2416195
neurologically, autism is indistinguishable from brai damage, i believe.

>>2416880
Allism*
Brain*

>>2416863
>I have not seen a single case of "severe autism" that can't be this quickly debunked.
This is really fucking ableist.

>>2416895
Every time they either don't have autism but some other disability, have autism but it's clearly not the major disability at play, a kid agitated by abusive parents until they get enough clips to stitch together, or straight up an actor.

>>2416962
>”it CAN’T be autism because I’m autistic and a genius, so it MUST be something else!”
Severe autism is the OG autism, idiot.

Depend if it's for actually challenged autists or "the doctor think you're weird!" autists. Because most autism diagnosis in 2025 are the second.
But yes some kind of boy scoot thing for autists even the later ones could be nice. But why not make them socialize with normal kids? They're just gonna end up as dysfunctional if they're forced to interact with only other autistics all day.
>>2413284
This too.

>>2416962
>a kid agitated by abusive parents until they get enough clips to stitch together,
What the hell are you talking about?

>>2416962
So you agree there needs to be an entirely separate diagnosis for severe/profound autism, or at the very least we should bring back the Asperger’s diagnosis?

>>2416962
>or straight up an actor.
Prove these kids are actors.

>>2416980
Not him but my girlfriend is autistic and frequently exploited by her family for "viral content" during her childhood, most notably an incident where she had a meltdown due to stress and one of her sisters decided to record a video of it and upload it to youtube and got a bunch of views. The rest of the family didn't see anything wrong with this and treats my girlfriend as the bad guy for not reconciling with her sister for that shit

>>2416962
Don't forget out of context movie clips being presented as legit documentary.

>>2416962
Aspie supremacist. I’m autistic and I can’t live alone.

>>2416995
>>2417000
That’s not an excuse to deny the severity of a disability. Autism may not be debilitating to you but it is to millions of people, many of whom need constant care.

Where are you getting this from? I can only find him mentioning "wellness farms" for drug convictions and people on psychiatric medication. I could see how people with autism would fit in there maybe but I am finding no sources.

>>2416979
Man I wanted to join scouts but the guy in charge of the scouts outpost literally right next to my house got in an arguement with my mom once so she didn't let me.

I'm not in favour of whatever bullshit the Trump admin does in this regard, obviously, but I honestly don't disagree that there should be something available to people to offload stress of disabled offspring. Most people (read: working class) cannot afford to support someone indefinitely. To get rid of any institution that fills this function (which has happened in the last fifty years, outside of pricy private homes for the disabled) is unfortunately a burden on the proletariat both economically (even further strained budget permanently) and socially (lack of time for potential education). This whole ordeal is inherently tragic, but it is a reality.

>>2413240
>Most parents are not well equipped to handle an autistic kid
<Which is why they should hire a therapist.
Ridiculous to think that people who can't afford expensive, private healthcare can afford a most assuredly out-of-pocket expense such as a specialised therapist. It seems like empty moralising about the situation without providing a better way other than spend money that you may have, but most in the working class do not.

>The current model of autistic therapy which focused on a collaboration between psychiatrists and nuclear family units is kinda reactionary

<Good thing you shoehorned „reactionary“ in there, now we can dismiss employing a therapist for a family as evil. Why even the „nuclear family“ part? Does employing a therapist for your autistic kid require you to have a stay at home wife and a breadwinner husband? Or are you speaking about the separate fact that this society has a patriarchal family model? You really are just trying to shoehorn this in there to make it seem evil when a family is hiring a therapist for an autistic child. It doesn‘t require a „nuclear family“ to begin with, it could be two gay moms in a polycule relationship who adopted an autistic kid.
You're putting words in his mouth in saying that he meant reactionary=evil. The fact of the matter is it is reactionary, proven by your diatribe following your first sentence in which you threw strawman after strawman at him. He didn't proclaim the nuclear family as """good""" perhaps it is the fact that the current model is based on the availability of a stay-at-home mom and/or having enough money to hire out help to be available (read: being bourgeois), with those being more and more a rarity nowadays means it is necessarily reactionary to uphold it as the proper method in the current day.
And for all the talk of shoehorning, why shoehorn in the idpol at the end? It's absurd, and with the whole bit of "just hire a pleb to help you" bullshit, does nothing but out you as a radlib with a fake revolutionary aesthetic, desperate to use queer people to hide your anti-proletarian tendencies.

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>Autism destroys families, but more importantly it destroys our greatest resource, which are our children
This is the most Hitlerite shit I've ever heard.

>>2417225
All the more reason to find a cure for allism. Total Family Death.

>>2417220
>Ridiculous to think that people who can't afford expensive, private healthcare can afford a most assuredly out-of-pocket expense such as a specialised therapist.

It’s not just about money either. Not everyone lives in an area where specialized therapists are available. Imagine living in the boonies of West Virginia and needing to relocate to Morgantown or even Pittsburgh because your level 3 autistic kid can’t get the proper help in your small bumfuck Appalachian village.

>>2417220
Also, the stay-at-home-mom thing: if you have a high-needs disabled child one of the parents has to quit their job to be a full-time caregiver. Plus, the kid’s support needs will often times put a huge drain on the marriage AND a huge drain on the siblings.

>>2417332
There's a legitimate reason why so many college towns are full of families with high needs disabled kids.

Bump

Lmao

>>2417121
You mom sound like a pain in the ass. No offence to your mom.

>>2417367
A UBI would easily fix this.


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