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How do leftists propose to court the young white male demographic in the West? They're increasingly becoming radicalized to the right wing. They're either Trump voters, Groypers, or some form of white nationalist at this point. Liberalism clearly has no better answers than the far-right's. So what is your solution?(/pol/ tourism thread)

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A bullet in the head of reactionaries, simple as that

>The Chekist was born in struggle, matured in hot battles. Many years have passed since that fiery time - Peaked cap with a star, shabby leather jacket, In the museum they put it under glass.


>It doesn't matter that there are gray hairs in the temples, And sometimes you can't sleep until morning. We are ready with you, old man, Repeat this fiery path.

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just create a left wing nick fuentes simple

>>2416656
Nick Fuentes was shaped, as a teenager, by the alt-right and allowed to reach the popularity he has because of the infrastructure of the online dissident right wing. You can't just create a left-wing Nick Fuentes in a lab.

>>2416654
>A bullet in the head of reactionaries
How are you going to get the political power to do so without first courting young white men?

>>2416658
>allowed
>by getting banned off of everything

>>2416660
Most young men aren't white

>>2416660
He isn't he's just larping

>>2416666
No, but we have the deepest ties to the West, historically the best political organization, and we're still by far the largest singular group. You can't gain political power without us.

>>2416664
He pulls 30k live viewers and his podcast appearances reach toward a million. But anyways, his popularity isn't just a personal result of his charisma. He's a face on the old alt-right ideology from 10 years ago, and for someone like him to get popular, people have to be relating to the message.

>>2416669
Russian peasants didn't get any special treatment they still killed the Czar

>>2416645
My heart is cold for them, like half of them is just in the right just because their friends are. They won't do anything for the movement, they just post dank memes in the hopes they'll be accepted and to not lose their mancards. I don't really care that much, you just have to be yourself. That worked for Mamdami.

>>2416671
>special treatments
White people don't get special treatments lol.

>>2416673
Mamdani is a hack. He won off the backs of ethnics and millennials in an already Democrat controlled city.

>>2416675
So they also won't after a revolution

>>2416677
Yeah but his biggest base of supporters in the general election are young men. Even more than young women even.

>>2416678
I don't think you understand my argument.

>>2416682
Most young men in the US aren't white and it is the same when you look at the world's population.

Offer mass ai gfs

>>2416683
There's no path to political power in the United States that doesn't involve getting young white men on your side. Englishmen were a minority in India and they still conquered it. We were originally a minority in the US and we still conquered it. We have the deepest cultural ties to the West and the best political organization ability. Raw numbers don't translate to political power.

>>2416687
The worlds population was like 60% white back then, now its 5%

>>2416687
do YOU have this ability? If what you're saying is even fucking true in the first place.

>>2416670
The idea that he was banned to create a Streisand effect is dumb, people want to listen to him because he's a good speaker and he has a different perspective to the average Israel shilling conservative.

>>2416689
Wrong on both counts. The world's population is more like 10% white, and at the time the world population was like 30% white. The US is 50-60% white. If we were able to conquer the entire world being a third of its population, why can we not conquer the US being half of its population? This is serious advice. If you want to gain political power in the West you cannot cede the demographic of young white men to the ethno nationalist right wing, you will lose.

>>2416690
I have a high autism score.

>>2416694
So you're just some narcissist who took an online intelligence test and took that as gospel then. Fuck off.

>>2416691
Exactly. People like him because he's charismatic but also because they like the alt-right ideology. What does leftism have to offer us that's better than the alt-right?

>>2416693
I think we should pay more attention to young Italians and Mongols living in the US as they conquered more landmass per capita of their population.

Stop saying men bad, we need trans women in sports and white people bad while focusing on economic problems people struggle with. That would go quite far.

>>2416695
Are you denying the fact that inherent differences in intelligence exist? My point is that you can't get political power without courting the largest and most deeply entrenched demographic of the country.

>>2416699
Communists say that? Where?

>>2416700
The biggest demographic is latinos

>>2416660
Courting reactionaries are impossible, reactionaries often are labor aristocrats our bourgeois, our dispute remains in the working class and poor proletarians, so it is easier to shoot a whitoid cracker that use slaves than the average redneck

>>2416705
There are half as many Gen Z Hispanics in the US as whites lol.

>>2416699
What economic solutions do you have that are superior to the ones proposed by the right wing?

>>2416700
>Are you denying the fact that inherent differences in intelligence exist
no, the autism score test is retarded though.
>My point is that you can't get political power without courting the largest and most deeply entrenched demographic of the country.
we are talking about broccoli haired zoomers, why are we talking like they can actually fight?

>>2416707
average age of a white man in the US is 37 years old, with latinos its closer to the early 20s

>>2416710
Okay? As I said before, raw numbers don't translate to political victory.

>>2416709
There isn't going to be a war. You're going to win by winning the intelligent, elite-aspirant young people to your side. The far right is currently doing a good job of this.

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>>2416713
the only intelligent thing that far righters are gonna do is die in nuclear hellfire when they lose their war against the whole world and flip the table

>>2416713
I feel like waiting is the best decision. Sam Hyde is starting to get seen as cringe by more and more people. He holds a lot of psychic weight for the "basedness" of the right. Otherwise the rest of the chuds look like a bunch of tossers and other sorts of dweebs. I'll wait until the democrats become more hateful and contentious and I'll wait until the right becomes cringe in the eyes of your average plebian.

>>2416716
Keep sticking your head in the sand brother. You haven't given a single thing that you have to offer to young white men that's better than the far right alternative. If you don't come up with one you're going to lose.

>>2416712
It always did, everything else is copium

>>2416719
Then how did white people rule South Africa?

>>2416708
Not giving tax cuts to people who make millions of dollars, not cutting food stamps, not cutting healthcare, not boosting military budget, not tripling funding of gestapo ice, increasing funding for mental health and rehabilitation services, make community college free, stop giving handouts mega corps and tax breaks, increase pay for teachers, force homeless people into state funded shelters as we open more so they don't bother people and so they are housed, don't cut social security, give people who are transitioning from welfare to work force welfare for longer time once start do encouraged to keep working. I could keep going

I think many Americans would agree with these

>>2416718
I win by default when they have to rent a home and they can't afford it so end up homeless and start hating the bourgeousie.

Real life is more important than some vril edits on xitter.

>>2416717
>Sam Hyde is starting to get seen as cringe by more and more people
Not because of his politics. Fuentes is getting more and more popular with the young people.

>>2416721
Ruled for like three decades and then lost.

>>2416725
They only lost because of political pressure from the West lol

>>2416723
How do you ensure they hate the bourgeoisie and not immigrants?

>>2416727
They should've fought harder then

Appeal to their self interest and reign in the contempt for them, that's should just about do it.

>>2416718
Shit slide thread
Westerners deserve the rope
Muh GIBS for amerimutt dogs so they don't become fascists

>>2416722
I'm gonna be honest a lot of that just doesn't hit home for people like me. Social Security is a distance dream for young people, welfare goes to mostly non-whites, and the tax cuts for the rich could serve to radicalize people to a fascist third position instead of to the left. The far right isn't tied to capitalism, so they can safely critique these economic policies as much as you can. At that point you've lost your leverage.

>>2416728
They can hate immigrants all they want, if the bourgeousie succesfully brainwashes them like they did back in 1933 then war isn't far away. Losing your legs will wake up even the most propagandized bootlicker.

>>2416645
>How do leftists propose to court the young white male demographic in the West? They're increasingly becoming radicalized to the right wing.
Meme. All people are radicalising to many points.

>>2416729
>>2416731
Have fun losing

>>2416730
>appeal to their self interest
What appeal to their self interest do you have that the right doesn't?

>>2416732
What appeals to you that the Republicans are not doing that you think would help Americans

>>2416735
Losing what
American support?
Who the fuck cares if your piece of the world gets glasses you mutt

>>2416733
We are not in a geopolitical situation anything like that of 1933.

Whats with the obsession with young "white" males? Gay

>>2416735
Losing our chains? Yes, some day.

>>2416738
Frankly white nationalism. I'm in tech and the market has been flooded with foreigners. 100 million deportations would make housing cheaper and working class wages higher, legalized discrimination and H1B deportations would make the white collar market far more prosperous, more homogeneity would increase social trust and cohesion.

>>2416645
send them to the gulag.

>>2416749
How do you get the political power?

>>2416696
A by-the-book orthodox leftist is never going to hold a candle to Fuentes, it would have to be someone who is willing to be more creative and open to other ideas.
Fuentes himself is not an ideological alt-righter, and is willing to entertain various strands of thought, which is what makes him interesting.

>>2416736
Well, economics for one.

>>2416740
The German bourgeoisie wanted war to restart the Germany economy after the Great Depression.

The US bourgeoisie still didn't fix the damage caused by 2008, sooner or later its gonna have to come down to the only fix they know. Get ready for war, bucko. The right wing shift is to create some meat for the grinder, nothing personel.

>>2416732
>and the tax cuts for the rich could serve to radicalize people to a fascist third position
It wont because no one cares about tax cuts for the rich beside leftists.
And even many leftists like me think this is pointless and the problem won't be solved by taking 1 billion from every billionaire.

>>2416747
Why not a war instead? 100 million dead young Americans bloating somewhere in Ukraine would fix the problems too.

do you hate cilantro? yes? to the gulag with you.

>>2416751
>Fuentes himself is not an ideological alt-righter
Lol. He absolutely is. If you don't think so you haven't watched enough of him.

>>2416752
As I explained, the white nationalist right has economic appeal to young white men.

>>2416724
Yeah and? I think that Hyde has much more vitality to him even if he is a hack. I just don't see Fuentes as anything more than the rest of the neo-talk radio yap factories.
>>2416741
/pol/tard wants to intimidate us into liking him.

>>2416753
Most retarded reading of WW2 award

>>2416758
Positive opinions about Trump collapsed to 22%

>>2416760
Lemme guess, you think it was about defending da nashion?

Communism has nothing to do with “courting demographics”, as if it were a popularity contest

>>2416747
Don't you feel building more housing is more of the problem? Like okay sure let us accept your premise of reduce immigration a bit but it remains that there is a lot of landlords and mega corps who own housing and want to stop houses being built near them so they can keep prices high. Wouldn't you like to do something about this so it is easier for people to build more homes leading to there being more options for them? If your issue is too many people for homes that should help right?

>"white men are responsible for all the world's problems!"
<"wait, why are white men looking for self-affirmation?"

>>2416747
>100 million deportations
Vrilly uygha?
I don't even think the US have the infrastructures for this. And if they wanted to make them they would need the manual worker browns to do the job.
I could see the far-right adopting a Dubai model with whites being first class citizen by birth and the rest merely there, but the browns will still be there. There isnt going to be remigration in America, mayyyybe in Europe though they have the demographic and infrastructures for this, but the birth rates of white europeans outside of white French people is South Korea tier.

>>2416755
You want to actually address my critiques or just bloviate nothings?

>>2416765
What is with this asinine self-victimization complex? Why do you even seek our approval anyways? You have the far-right nationalists to baby your ego. Just go to them.

>>2416761
For the reasons Fuentes dislikes Trump lol

>>2416765
>2012 twitter posts made by radlibs bullied me into being nutsack 😢

>>2416759
>/pol/tard wants to intimidate us into liking him.
I don't want to intimidate you, I actually want discourse.

>>2416660
By being a collaborator to an actual communist regime, when, not if, NATO throws down and loses.

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>>2416757
I've been watching him since he supported Andrew Yang, and much more regularly since he hooked up with Ye. You don't even know. The Alt-Right as an actual thing really got destroyed after Charlottesville with a massive police and internet crackdown.

>>2416766
>I could see the far-right adopting a Dubai model

They are way too racist to ever do this lol. Only right wing person I have seen genuinely advocate for this is Richard haniana because he doesn't care at all about demographics. Even with no welfare right wingers would still see it as white genocide to have literal Indian slaves. They are not even okay with slave tier people here working on farms which are jobs no one wants to do while gulf states would love to have such people

>>2416764
Build more houses where? The problem is that all the immigrants are funnelling into highly populated areas, unless you want HK style pod living there is no solution

You can't men are being inverted in the pay gap and whites are in demographic decline, sit back and let them die thrashing or let them run off into Neanderthal caves like the olden days away from the MOP which will be communized.

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>>2416768
>>2416770
>"white men are responsible for all the world's problems!"
<"wait, why are white men looking for self-affirmation?"

>>2416757
He's not very dogmatic though he's right. He even entertain voting dem when some candidates are "based" on zionism. He's more like Richard Spencer/Richard Bananie figure. Very opportunistic.
>>2416765
Grug take. But mostly true. The saddest part is "we" did this to appeal to what? Fucking striver upper class immigrants? We did this for Vivek Ramashwarmy lmao.

>>2416766
>I could see the far-right adopting a Dubai model with whites being first class citizen by birth and the rest merely there, but the browns will still be there
I think immediately implementing this followed by decades of moving towards deportations slowly is the best option. That assumes that we take power soon though. Fingers crossed.

Even Nigerian immigrants are outcompeting whit*id sickly pale helldemons, I say kill them all

>>2416770
I mean blacks don't vote Republicans because they can't stop TND posting or doing anti-black sadistic messaging for the older Rep crowd. Yes what you say influence the way people see you and react to you.

>>2416778
I guess they can go die for Israel or picking soy in a field then

>>2416775
Chinas home ownership rate is 98%
In comparison:
For every homeless person in the US there are 22 vacant homes owned by property investment firms

>>2416779
>grug take
the issue is that identity politics was unleashed for everyone except white males, but now that white males have identity politics, it is deemed too far. if people were not anti-white male, would white males really care so much about affirming their own identity?

>>2416785
>just live like a bug goy

>>2416773
Yeah, but Fuentes has just adopted the alt-right's ideology. You can say the 'alt-right" has died but the modern day dissident right is almost exactly the same as the old guard alt right.

>>2416778
So the West didn't fuck the world?

>>2416783
>for the older crowd
Young republicans are more racist than old ones

>>2416792
That's what i said

>>2416779
Fuentes doesn't entertain voting dem lol, he fucks over RINOs.

>>2416786
God you people are so fucking whiny, why would you want to imitate the behavior of SJWs?

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>>2416780
Nothing is gonna happen, the capitalist needs workers, white people have no children, workers need to come from overseas, only 5% of the worlds population is white and by 2100 its gonna be closer to under 1%


>>2416772
China is fascist

>>2416798
I'm fine with whites ruling over the world with nonwhites as a slave caste lol

>>2416799
The RINO that disavowed him for being too "racist" and opposing Israel?

>>2416791
>the west
does that include the white male peasants who were enslaved to the ruling class?
>>2416795
would you call black identity politics whiny?

>>2416801
Not with those birthrates

>>2416804
Quite frankly yes

>>2416789
Bullet trains

>>2416806
>Quite frankly yes
this is in regard to BLM?

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>>2416800
just say you're racist against chinese people

>>2416806
Do you want white only spaces?

>>2416805
Birthrates are a fixable problem. It's obviously the prime problem we encounter, but it's not unique to whites. It seems to be a natural bottleneck after development.

>>2416790
NF is not a doctrinaire alt-righter
He was praising Greta Thunberg and "European socialism" a week or so ago

>>2416811
Robot women that you can breed will fix it.

>>2416808
That is more of a fuck off cops thing. Stop being annoying pigs sort of deal. That is why true-crime content ever so synthetically hit the white woman demographic like crack cocaine in detroit.
>>2416810
I lived in suburbs before mate. I like small cities the best though, I have no problem with other races being around.

>>2416812
he is like richard spencer

>>2416811
Its not, or it would've been fixed a decade ago, under 1% here we come

>>2416814
If the cops are too good at jobs we won't have true crime content anymore

>>2416814
so what aspect of black identity politics do you disagree with?

>>2416812
>Greta thunberg
He said "she's a white girl, one of us" and praised her for going against Israel.
>European socialism
>what is the third position

The real question is what sort of private equity fund is giving nick feuntes the sauce?

>>2416817
You realize that there are only billions of browns because we allowed that to happen right?

>>2416820
third position is just capitalism with a frenly face.

>>2416830
A fascist, liberal, and leftist walk into a bar. They discuss their ideologies with each other. Afterwards, each is asked what they think of the others. All three say "those two other guys are exactly the same".

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>>2416821
There was a French guy who killed himself and gave him a bunch of Bitcoin before died

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/far-right-extremists-raise-millions-cryptocurrency-bitcoin/

Shortly before his suicide, in December 2020, a French computer programmer named Laurent Bachelier sent 28.15 Bitcoins — then worth over $520,000 — to 22 far-right entities. The bulk went to Nick Fuentes, an American white nationalist influencer who would spend the coming weeks encouraging his tens of thousands of followers to lay siege to the U.S. Capitol. One bitcoin went to a Daily Stormer account.

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another case of #bbbcide

>>2416806
"Demographis is destiny" is a truism that is mostly a meme. You can me a tiny minority with middling birthrates and be in control. Look at ashkenazi jews in the west post WW2.
This guy is deluted but birthrates isnt what would stop whites for dominating the world.
>>2416822
Weird cope. You internalized wokism too much. Browns were just ready to die 10:1 against Rhodesian Security Force while whites were too soft and/or not numerous enough for it. They werent "allowed" anymore than the Slavic hordes were "allowed" to rape the Germans in 1945, they wanted to do it and they did it.

>>2416815
he is taking that same trajectory it seems
>>2416820
And most people on the right still won't praise her. He is willing to take "left wing" positions even if it's for "based" reasons, or even if that is just a rationalisation. He's still willing to do it because he has no desire to conform.

>>2416834
Wasn't there this other guy who Nick Feuntes had a fling with as well? Someone who was also jewish or something.

>>2416840
Without our technology they would've hit carrying capacity long ago

>>2416839
>calarts pfp
just adds to the faggotry of it all

>>2416821
He pulls in perhaps 2k per night when he streams. Do that 200 times a year and you can live a decent life. He doesn't do anything fancy with his money anyway, he didn't grow up rich and doesn't have expensive tastes.

>>2416843
This is an eternal debate in the online right. Should we praise leftists that hate us if they, for a time, say something that aligns with us? Fuentes has said as much himself, the Palestine protestors are coming from a different perspective than him, but he wants to use them as a battering ram against the Jews.

>>2416845
>"Without chinx tricknology crakkkas wouldnt have the gun to kill brown folx!"


>>2416850
>2k per night
Maybe in 2021. He gets 15-30k nowadays.

>>2416852
I mean that's technically true, but the scale is all off. It's not that we invented the technology and now they're using against us, we invented the technology and gifted it to them in the name of liberalism.

bbc 20 inch

>>2416852
the green revolution and modern medicine were invented by white people, both contributed to the massive world population we have today

what sort of discord raid is this anyways

By dating all the girls they wanted till they figure out girls prefer leftists…..not leftypolers though a lot of you guys are just /pol/yps wearing red.

>white people caused the 🐝🐝C invasion of white countries 20 inch ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

>>2416859
I am one guy that wants to talk to leftists and liberals. 4chan is right wing, X sucks, and in normie social media you either get banned or people shut down and disengage.

>>2416855
It wasnt "gifted". Technology spread regardless. Gunpowder wasnt "gifted" from the Chinese to the Whites either. Spengler talk about this, that's why he was anti-tech. You create something but your never own that thing and it can later be used against you by foreign entities.

>>2416869
Well the answer to your question is to simply just say that you want the economic shit that the youths like and to be vaguely manly enough for them to like you.
>>2416873
>nypost
murdoch

big long dark meaty rods veiny to penetrate evropa 30 inches

>>2416871
Look at how much aid we've given to these third world countries. We could've used our technology to wipe them off of the map but we didn't in the name of "equality". But I agree, just because we controlled the world for 500 years doesn't mean it's inevitable that we control the world going forward. That's our job.
He who would not fight will not live.

>>2416851
If something happened to Nick would any pro Palestinian protestors give a shit? I doubt it so he has a point. But also if he doesn't support them who else is there for him to support against total jewish domination?

>>2416854
I remember seeing a stat that said he was the top dono earner on D-Live in 2021, and it came out at about $90k per year. I don't think he's pulling 15k a night now, judging by his superchats. He might get about a dozen that are $100
then the rest are $10 and $20 and he gets about 100 superchats a night. I suppose it depends on how busy the night is.

>>2416876
>you want the economic shit and be manly
Isn't this what Hasan does? He's a hell of a lot manlier than Fuentes, but Fuentes has captured the minds of the youth.

>>2416883
fuentes is literally a gay bottom, so its no surprise

>>2416883
Is this really the case? I imagine that feuntes like your Tariq nasheeq or whatever his name was called. A local lolcow that is gawked at more than anything.

>>2416878
couldve wouldve
the bibisi grows longer

>>2416758
Except they don't, it's all woo-woo and vague allusions to "RETVRN to the 50s" in practice they make no decisions that actually benefit the white working class. A Socialist can just straight up say "We want to give you a house, healthcare, and a job that doesn't suck." Meanwhile fascists basically ignore or only allude to some economic prosperity before saying, in essence, "we're taking away your medicaid for the fatherland"

>>2416883
>I don't think he's pulling 15k a night now, judging by his superchats
Judging by how much discussion he's generating on other social media I think it's legit

>>2416885
hasan speaks like a tard, so it makes sense

i was also listening to this absolute flaming faggot david greene (the distributist), who is another (((catholic))). its no surprise though since thiel himself is gay, so promotes fellow homosexuals

>>2416890
You're conflating Trump with the dissident right. Half of the dissident right hates Trump for not being sufficiently right wing and for being a corpo/Israel shill.

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>>2416888
Yes, look at the views and reception Fuentes pulls on his appearances on YT.

>>2416891
You know you can just tot up the superchats while you watch? Sure the really busy nights he might hit 10k but the average night? 2k IMO

>>2416899
You think the stream numbers are fake? It's confirmed that he boosted them in his Cozy days but look at the amount of views he gets when he goes on a podcast, look at the Twitter engagement, look at how well known he is everywhere. It's gotta be real.

>>2416888
Years of smears ultimately had no effect, he's Teflon Nick tbh, it's remarkable. Kiwi Farms in shambles.

>>2416893
The distributist is one of the best guys in the space

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>>2416892
thats what being a man is - being a big dumb ape
>nerd claims his will to power by poisoning your mind with magic symbols that turn you effeminate
<grug punches nerd and laughs, breaking the spell
you never read nietzsche?

>>2416904
he just seems like another NRx coat-tailer to me
maybe im wrong

>>2416888
>he boosted them in his cozy days
so he boosted his numbers to 2000? why would he do this when he pulls 20k on rumble? It doesn't make sense because the numbers on his own website are trash.

>>2416898
I think a lot of his audience is 10-15 years older then that. It's the same chudlinnial faction that consumes a lot of anti-woke youtubers.

>>2416907
By "cozy days" I mean like late 2021

>>2416905
No one wants political analysis from a big dumb ape.

>>2416905
Hitler was a nerd of middling height, look at how effectively he took over Germany

>>2416909
I think it's mostly zoomers

>>2416906
Maybe I have a soft spot for him because he was my introduction to a lot of the ideas, but I think he has good cultural analysis. His streams where he goes over the current moment in the RW-sphere and analyzes it are great.

>>2416915
There are a lot of manchildish millennials out there. If anything for every soytendie fag out there that voots for harris there is 1.2 critical drinker watchers that hypnotically watch anti-woke youtube drivel. Zoomers seem to be more into more douchebag-orientated crap.

>>2416919
Critical Drinker and Fuentes are worlds apart.

>>2416894
Just like the left hates the democrat for not being anti-israel and pro-socialism enough. But in the end…

>>2416920
Not really. Both of them appeal to a sort of "Mad that the world doesn't pander to me" sort of reactionary who's wife cheats on them.

>>2416922
I think the difference is that there's an emerging large base of extremely young, extremely right wing zoomers that will push the GOP rightward. I just don't see that happening with the Dems, they're just collapsing into third worldism.

>>2416901
>>2416910
I think the numbers are real because the really big streams are when things happen. The pattern seems organic. I don't think 20k live viewers on an average night is that surprising, and he's only hit that number consistently in the last few months, a year or two ago it was much lower.

>>2416923
Not at all, you need to watch more Fuentes if you think that's the case

>>2416914
>Hitler was a nerd
He fought in WW1, very different breed of "nerd". Tolkien was a "nerd" too.

>>2416926
Yeah okay tbf I was completely tuned out of Fuentes for like the past two years or so. His recent boost of popularity seems monumental though.

>>2416928
Thereby proving your point incorrect. LOL

>>2416932
I'm not the same anon


>>2416924
>I think the difference is that there's an emerging large base of extremely young, extremely right wing zoomers that will push the GOP rightward
True. But the dem has this too from 2008 till Biden. It amounted to very little.
>Dems, they're just collapsing into third worldism.
Liz Cheney IS Brat and Gavin Newsome isnt very thirdworldist.

>>2416912
thinking in more sapien terms can often be more profound, since its entirely goal-oriented. nerds exist to prohibit things from grug, and grug doesnt have the patience for complicated answers.

>>2416929
Academic Agent thinks his dismantling of Tucker Carlson was an all time great stream.

>>2416936
>the dem has this too from 2008 till Biden
I don't really think so honestly. Sure, they had a youth base, but it wasn't nearly as zealous and radical as the right is now.

>>2416937
Literally no one cares what Hasan has to say about the world, he only gets attention when he's doing something retarded.

>>2416939
I agree. Watching it Friday I really felt like it was something very culturally significant. Everyone is siding with Nick, and it's obviously just because he's correct.

don't care, still gonna laugh when ceos get shot

>>2416944
Even most Nick haters had to give him this one. Only person I've seen side with Tucker was Eric Striker, who is clearly just seething about some personal beef they have.

Eh, zoomers are starting to drink again. I think that in itself kind of makes me think they'll be like any other generation. Sure some are "Aura-farming" or whatever but I'm not impressed

>>2416894
And? I’ve argued with dissident right guys and it’s easy to beat them with class. I point out that if they’re really upset about “immigrants stealing jobs” then the quickest way to deal with that is to arrest business owners instead of immigrants. If they’re say “well we can do both” I point out that they never actually do, that given the choice between arresting business owners and migrants the only people who get arrested are migrants, the business owner is always free to hire more and for the rest of us it means taxes go up. If they try to propose an alternative that’s just want of their torture fantasies I point out, again, that they don’t actually include anything about punishing the businesses responsible.

I go on the attack, I accuse the dissident right of loving Jeff Bezos, I say they don’t give a fuck about their own people living on the streets, I call them boomers who but into horseshit about “le job creators”. They hate being on the defensive so I force them to. I attack and make it clear they can either be racist Bezos cucks or they can actually stand up for themselves, which means dropping the Nazi ideology shit and going after business first.

>>2416948
Yeah even if you don't like Nick, it's clear that he did everyone else on the right a service by exposing the nu-neocon MAGA grifter faction.

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>>2416943
well, he certainly seems to be popular, but i would attribute this to him being something of a sublime normie, where he just says common sense liberal truisms in an impassioned way - bill burr as a comedian does the same schtick and so did carlin.

>>2416953
>I point out that they never actually do
I have two responses. One is that if we actually kick out all of the immigrants it doesn't matter if we arrest the business owners or not. Second is that the Republican party is still largely captured by international elite forces that are traitors to America. The Republican party is not anywhere close to our ideal political party. And as for billionaires, I really have no opinion. We will have powerful people. If they're loyal to our nation they're fine, if not then they're bad.

>>2416965
>>2416953
two retards fighting

We need the young black support

>>2416973
We need the support of proles and maybe lumpens/petite bourgeoisie. Just going after youths ages you up 25 years.

>>2416656
the reason why fuentes can even become so big it's because it's understood that the coalition it represents is fundamentally powerless and will inevitably fall back in line behind trump, just like never-trumpers did back in 2016. the guy is literally a concern-lib. we already have a nick fuentes of the left, they're the pod johns.

this thread can end after this post

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>>2416956
He's got 666k views in 2 days. Not sure how Rumble calculates views but those are pretty impressive numbers on an alternative platform. Not many streamers on the left can do that.

start by cutting out all the performative “SJW” crap, the “purity testing” whatever buzzword name applies to it.

stop making (white) men feel guilty just for being (white) men. I know this complaint is beyond a cliche by now but it’s rooted in truth.

>>2416997
put your old name back on, CPUSAnon

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>I have two responses. One is that if we actually kick out all of the immigrants it doesn't matter if we arrest the business owners or not.

So you'd rather spend maybe a $1 trillion and several decades trying to "kick out the immigrants, all the while you've got people protesting and viciously pushing back against it, rather than maybe a few million dollars and a year to just set up e-verify and start arresting business owners who "forget" to check for citizenship? Fucking boneheaded strategy if you ask me. "I'll gladly pay my entire salary as long as our precious business leaders are safe."

>Second is that the Republican party is still largely captured by international elite forces that are traitors to America.


Weird how you guys can never seem to figure out these traitors before you elect them to office. It's all "Wooo! Trump Train! Brexit! AfD!" Then Trump gets into office and he starts talking about how we need to bring in more Indian IT workers because "Well, gosh, we can just never find people for the jobs!"

>The Republican party is not anywhere close to our ideal political party.


Dunno why not, you all seem to deify them right up until they stab you in the back and then it's "Uhh, actually I never REALLY liked them!" Like, Q started on /pol/ before migrating to 8chan, y'all had an entire religion dedicated to how Trump was going to "save" you, and then after all that support it's just another billion dollars for Israel and more Indian IT workers. You all were giddy for Brexit but then it just made U.K. businesses worse off and brought up talks of importing more Pakistani migrants to make up for the collapse in immigration from the EU.

>And as for billionaires, I really have no opinion.


These guys are calling you "lazy" for wanting to work for more than $1 an hour. They're giddily buying up housing so that you'll never own a home and have to scrape and scrabble for rent money. What, when they're fucking your girl in front of you are you gonna say: "Yes Mister Bezos sir! Thank you for not charging rent this month, sir! You're such a great job creator, sir! I promise if you knock my girlfriend up I'll raise your child for you, sir!"

>We will have powerful people. If they're loyal to our nation they're fine, if not then they're bad.


So the same excuse as "The Golden One", it's all: "Oh, we'll have Capitalism with a sense of HONOR. It'll be BASED Capitalism!" You can't define what that actually looks like, and you've got Elon Musk giving long diatribes of "No no no, trust me bro, we need the Indians bro, it's really America First bro! It's like putting together an all-star sports team, bro! It's based! Trust me, bro!"

Be sure to pay your rent to Blackrock, Citizen! It's what a loyal, hardworking citizen will do! Glory to the volk and make sure palantir has all your data, it's for the good nation!

>>2416990
He's been pulling as many views as Ben Shapiro

>>2417008
>So you'd rather spend maybe a $1 trillion and several decades trying to "kick out the immigrants, all the while you've got people protesting and viciously pushing back against it, rather than maybe a few million dollars and a year to just set up e-verify and start arresting business owners who "forget" to check for citizenship?
Yes, because the immigrants have to leave this land either way. Cracking down on the businesses could save us money, we want as many people to self-deport as we can, but our first priority is the demographic state of our lands.
>Weird how you guys can never seem to figure out these traitors before you elect them to office
Electoral politics are a sham.
>you all seem to deify them right up until they stab you in the back
You're conflating multiple groups of people in the right wing with each other. Fuentes is currently the biggest name in the right and he called out the Republicans before the election.
>These guys are calling you "lazy" for wanting to work for more than $1 an hour
Our current elite class are traitors to the nation that produced them. They should all be forced to submit to the national interest or have their head on a pike.
>So the same excuse as "The Golden One", it's all: "Oh, we'll have Capitalism with a sense of HONOR. It'll be BASED Capitalism!"
There is no way to get rid of elites. In any society, some people will be far more powerful than the rest. Our job is to ensure that the state, as the ultimate authority, punishes the elites if they are disloyal. The current political order does not do this. This is a problem.

we need to court the filipino and latinx waffen ss and combine with gamergate forces to beat back the /leftypol/ divisions

>>2417034
>Latinx
Stop this liberal gringo shit

>>2417050
true, I personally prefer latnxir

>>2416965
>Dude what if we just capitulate to all white nationalist demands!
Like I said above whites and men both respectively already lost, let it happen then refocus on working towards socialism in brown and black areas, any surviving whites will be driven into rural areas and the wilderness.

>>2417061
You're mentally deficient if you think completely giving up on white people won't bite you in the ass.

>>2417064
If all white people are white nationalists then they are opposed to communism and should be liquidated. Thankfully white people are no /pol/ fantasy hivemind.

>>2417069
>Thankfully white people are no /pol/ fantasy hivemind
Right wingers know this, but it's their goal to change it.

>Yes, because the immigrants have to leave this land either way. Cracking down on the businesses could save us money, we want as many people to self-deport as we can, but our first priority is the demographic state of our lands.

Except you don’t actually want them to leave, because you’re using the most fucking boneheaded and indirect way of doing it. If they can’t be hired they’ve got no reason to come here, but instead of just doing the cheap and quick e-verify you want to hire, what, a million guys to one by one spend weeks searching the streets to pick up anyone with brown skin. Even now you’re just trying to dodge the fact that this is a business problem first and foremost, why is it so important for you to protect these guys?

>Electoral politics are a sham.


Never stops you for falling for it when some “based” conservative comes around.

>You're conflating multiple groups of people in the right wing with each other. Fuentes is currently the biggest name in the right and he called out the Republicans before the election


Nick Fuentes had dinner with Trump and was invited to speak at events by Republican politicians. Behold the based dissident right: incorruptible up until some geriatric queen invites them to have a well-done steak for dinner.

>Our current elite class are traitors to the nation that produced them. They should all be forced to submit to the national interest or have their head on a pike.


Then your guys come to power and suddenly one jumbo jet gift later they’re great people that the fatherland relies on. The Nazis fucking put Rothschilds up in hotels and never killed a single “elite”. It’s the same shit every time: “oh this elites different, he’s actually based”

Literally all it takes for you to like Bezos is just him saying some racial slur. Like that’s it. Your loyalty can just be bought by saying the right things.

> There is no way to get rid of elites. In any society, some people will be far more powerful than the rest. Our job is to ensure that the state, as the ultimate authority, punishes the elites if they are disloyal. The current political order does not do this. This is a problem.


Literally communist societies alone are the only ones that have punished elites consistently. Nazis just give them contracts and say they’re based.

>>2417072
And the artillery is hungry too! More meat 4 the trenches

>>2417074
>you want to hire, what, a million guys to one by one spend weeks searching the streets to pick up anyone with brown skin
Yes, because some will still remain due to the superiority of our nation.
>why is it so important for you to protect these guys?
It's not. It's important for the Republican party because they're bought by corporate interests.
>Never stops you for falling for it when some “based” conservative comes around
Who is "you" here?
>Nick Fuentes had dinner with Trump and was invited to speak at events by Republican politicians
He spoke with Trump because of Kanye and every Republican he's networked with has eventually disavowed him.
>The Nazis fucking put Rothschilds up in hotels and never killed a single “elite”.
There's no need to kill them if you've forced them to capitulate to national interests. That's just bloodshed for the sake of bloodshed.
>Your loyalty can just be bought by saying the right things.
By doing the right things, but yes. If Bezos began only hiring Whites I would love him.
>Literally communist societies alone are the only ones that have punished elites consistently
Why should we want to capsize the elite class? They're intelligent and industrious. If we can use state power to force them to be loyal why do we need to kill or depose them?
>Nazis just give them contracts and say they’re based
I fail to see the problem.

huge Big black cock

>>2417064
They're going to be minorities in their own nations soon, it won't and we don't have to care about them.
>>2417069
No all white people are like that and are already being liquidated.

>>2417099
>They're going to be minorities in their own nations soon
We were minorities in the world and we conquered literally all of it. You are delusional

>>2417104
You invented BBC porn

>>2417104
Oh so you're just an asshurt cracker.
Well good luck doing that a second time after industrializing the non whites of the world, thanks for that, like I said though if being white is so important to you, the surviving whites past 2100 will be allowed to live in wild forest ancom tribes away from communist non white civilizations after you become too small to do real harm.

>>2417107
Everyone's fertility is decreasing. India is now going below replacement. Whites were the first to enter modernity and as such we will be the first to emerge from the birthrate crisis into a new society.

>>2416645
Young "people" are retarded sheep. When I was a kid not too long ago, young men were either liberals, fedoras, or "Satanists". Give it time and the pendulum will swing back left. We need to focus on recruiting adults for longevity

>>2417113
This is cope

>>2417112
That society being communism?

I find it weird how insistently both on pol and here that they just keep INSISTING that nick feuntes is real and legit and not botted up. It makes me think that his shit is actually stinky stinky.

>>2417119
Communism is impossible

White people population 1945: 60% of the world's population
Now: 5%

Why should communist care about convertinf right wing white people who are like 2% of the world's population?

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Schrödingers white people, both superior and rulers of the Earth but at the same time enslaved by the Jews and genocided by the immigrant.

KEK

>>2417127
Because the West will live and die with us. If you want to establish a political presence in America or Europe you need us.

>>2417132
It's not that hard to understand. The will has to exist for a people to dominate, and Whites have lost their political will. That's the entire project of the right wing.

>>2416997
Agreed. Leftism/Marxism needs a universal appeal, not bourgeoisie idpol obsessions


>>2417116
It's literally history lmao

>>2417123
So you're just an asshurt Nazi then got it.
>>2417127
This.
>>2417132
The 2nd part is true, just wait it out, then instate communism.

>>2417138
How exactly are you going to take over Europe without appealing to Europeans?

>>2417140
>So you're just an asshurt Nazi then got it
lol

I heard white boys like Chapo and Cum Town. More flavors of leftist podcasts.

>>2417141
Replacing and killing you. Frankly anyone who is serious about communism should be 300 times more worried about the deep racism in Asians, and the homophobia in Africa, we need to focus more on turning blacks gay and start pushing race mixing on Asians while letting white people die throwing a tantrum.

Is OP a chat gpt bot?

>>2417146
Good luck


>>2417148
Thanks but don't really need it whites are already dying.

I think OP is shitting up both his own thread here and the /usapol/ thread, there was another poster besides OP before with a different typing style.

Those are probably leftovers from the sharty spergout yesterday

>>2417152
We will never die

How high is the chance that OP is some mexican nazi

Also
>Everyone's fertility is decreasing. India is now going below replacement. Whites were the first to enter modernity and as such we will be the first to emerge from the birthrate crisis into a new society.
4 million people lower from 2000 to 2020.
It's not that the percentage is small, whites really are dying and being erased from their own nations because all of them are outbreeding asian or black.
You're chopped cracker. I will be one of the few in this board to say white genocide is real and that's a good thing, but it's 50 years too late to say "We will never die" you already are and by the end of it you won't realize it until there's barely thousands of you left, don't worry though we'll let you have forest reservations like you did to the Native Americans.

>>2417167
Okay. A race war it is then. Not sure you'll like the outcome.

>>2417177
mexican cartels vs black gangs vs…. uh… are there even young white people left

>>2417188
>wypipo are losing because they aren't in violent gangs
lmao

>>2417177
Not a race war or you would have done it 30 years ago.
The material conditions for it aren't going to happen the same way that the material conditions for fighting with legislature against houses being bought by corporations. The facts are that whites are complacent, getting fucked over in every which way, and sitting by it.
>Kamelo Anthonys dad saying he forgives his sons killer and denounces racism
>That one cracker who killed himself over AI blackmail
All just go to show that despite everything you will always sit there in impotent rage at the change of the world, at best you will vote in pundits like Trump who will continue importing non whites into your nations because fuck you personally.
Your sons will be reliant on asian women and your daughters will fuck black men and Muslims or asians too thanks to K Pop.
You cannot convince anyone outside of a few thousand like I said. You will be relegated to anarcho communalist tribes in the forest. That's the best deal white people will get. A fitting end for your kind.
Also
>Not sure you'll like the outcome
You said it yourself, you think communism is impossible, you say that like I'm losing out on a soldier, fuck no faggot, I don't give a fuck what you do.
White genocide is unstoppable from both me and you. Cry about it.

>>2417195
who wins
gangbangers vs sheltered suburbia

>>2417200
The guy who commands the actual army

1865
1917
1945
1979
Why should communists care about right wing losers?

>>2417206
The 40% Black and 50% Latino army?

>>2417209
We shouldn't.
Anyone who says that communists should appeal to men or white people at this point is just a bitter loser.

>>2417083
>Yes, because some will still remain due to the superiority of our nation.

So you think they'll stay in a nation where they can't find a job, can't rent an apartment, can't own a home, and where some psychotic government is talking about "the purity of the white race" 24/7 because, what, we've got some fucking gay looking roman statues? People don't leave their countries, friends, and family behind because they find the architecture pretty, they do it for a material incentive: work.

>It's not. It's important for the Republican party because they're bought by corporate interests.


For something that sure isn't important to you guys, you go out of your way to find ways to excuse the behavior of business; if the rent goes up you blame the immigrants over the landlord, if wages are too small you, again, blame immigrants over the rich guy paying the wages.

>Who is "you" here?


The ideology based around collectivizing entire groups of people and assuming their motives sure seems to get upset if you collective them. The fact is the far-right fell head over heels with Trump, you had Richard Spencer heiling him. You don't get to say "Oh, that's not us" when that's not a charity you extend to anyone else.

>There's no need to kill them if you've forced them to capitulate to national interests. That's just bloodshed for the sake of bloodshed.


You can't even define what "the national interest" is in any consistent way. Importing tons of low-wage migrants is in "the national interest" but when it comes to that y'all are suddenly like "Oh, there's more things important then profit!"

>By doing the right things, but yes. If Bezos began only hiring Whites I would love him.


There's nothing stopping you from working in an Amazon fulfillment center today. Literally nothing. If your dream is to work for Amazon just fucking do it, it's a shitty job that doesn't pay nearly enough for the labor required.

>Why should we want to capsize the elite class? They're intelligent and industrious.


Donald Trump and Elon Musk are two of the most retarded and lazy mother fuckers out there. There's literally no evidence that being rich means "intelligence".

>If we can use state power to force them to be loyal why do we need to kill or depose them?


Except they already are "loyal" as far as the actual concerns of the state go. You can't define "loyalty" or "national interest" because that's ultimately just your fucking feelings.

>I fail to see the problem.


Jesus how fucking cuckolded, "I'm fine having my hands ground up by industrial machinery for pennies, but I won't stand having a mexican working next to me!"

>>2417213
Yeah, right wingers are losing so hard they run the US, most of the ME, and are poised to take control of Britain.

>>2416645
Landlordicide
Constitutional right to have a job
Reduced workweek
No more wars

>>2417248
Reform is to the left of the labour party under stirmer.
https://nitter.poast.org/Basil_TGMD/status/1952321128023671097#m

>>2417209
Are you winning son?

>>2417259
>right wingers are so weak they turned the labour party into a neocon/neoliberal cuntfest

>>2417262
I meant to say right

>>2417253
>Reform capitalism to secure eternal bourgeois domination

-This has been a certified leftoid classic

>How do leftists propose to court the young white male demographic in the West?
<looks at my org
Having no problem with that.

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>>2416645
>How do leftists propose to court the young white male demographic in the West?
We can't, any "recruitment" campaign is bound to fail.
These young white men are not working class, they are petty-bourgeois. They are class enemies and should be treated as such.

Easy. Put subliminal messages in furry pornography art.

>>2417279
This.
Whites are fundamentally petit bourgeoisie, the prole recruitment is mostly going to be asian and latinx. If you are triggered by that you are reactionary

>>2417279
>These young white men
Which ones? Because last I checked, and I may be wrong, the working class was around 80% of the US population. Even if they were miraculously all white men, there would still be more proletarian white men.

If you're talking about the ones who are actually booj sons of millionaires, then fine, dismiss them as overwhelmingly petbooj, but to pretend that's a typical young man, white or not, is overlooking a huge chunk of the working class. In a word; racial bigotry. No war but the class war.

>>2417285
>Even if they were miraculously all white men
* even if the petit booj were miraculously all white men

>>2417272
Young white men are probably more woke than not. It's the 1st/2nd/3rd generation latinxs that are chuds

>>2417285
The OP pic was used as an example of the "young white men" demographic that we need to appeal to, I was saying those people (far-right Groyper types and so on) are petty-bourgeois and that it is totally useless to try to appeal to them in any way. I was not referring to all young white men, many young white men who are working class are in fact left-wing anyways, at the very least social democrats.

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>>2417136
mixed people stay winning, then

>>2417289
Ah fair enough, I forgot after reading some replies. Sorry for jumping down your throat.

>>2416687
bad bait

Imagine living with ghosts in the head

>>2417248
Woah right wingers run all the shitholes

Don’t need to.
The white race is a ruling class social control formation.

>>2417279
The biggest demo for far-right shit are not white men lol, it's mostly minorities.
Also this shit is most popular among the working classes. The western left is mostly the domain now of university educated upper-middle class professionals.

>>2417622
huh? I know rightoids that are gay or trans.

>>2417083
> By doing the right things, but yes. If Bezos began only hiring Whites I would love him.
There it is lel

>>2417628
You mean the number you pulled out of your ass?

>>2417621
From my understanding, most minorities who vote for right-wing parties in the west are voting on a single issue that effects them specifically. It's very rare for working class people to be loyal to any political party.

>>2416645
Men are NOT turning right wing, it's a propaganda push from the bourgeoise

>>2416645
Well we need to co-opt populism from the right wingers that’s one thing

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>>2417628
Peter Thiel is gay, so was Mishima and before the Right went single issue on anti-trans to the point of backing radfems and "great replacers" out of contrarianism, trans people used to vote right-wing parties in the west. The racial far-right regimes of Rhodesia and Apparteid South Africa had trans healthcare, the Islamic Republic of Iran have trans healthcare and so does far-right Israel. The far-right BJP is pro-trans too and so are the smaller more insane far-right Hindu parties in Indian. China are not RW but they're pretty chudded on race while being pro-trans.
I am not doing a "queer are da real nazi" by the way. But this idea of sexual/gender minorities as inherently leftist is just ahistorical, people respond to their material situation.
>>2417658
>The absolute majority of queers are left leaning and completely immune to reactionary propaganda
In the US where the religious (christian) right is still a thing yes. When the religious right get out of the picture, like in Western Europes, queers easely vote far-right or participate in right-wing politics.

>>2417686
You're a femboy hanging out in tranime spaces Moffin your opinion and social circles is not an accurate snapshot to mainstream men.
t. have lots of mainstream male friends who are all conservacucks or fascists

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>another thread where rightoid thinks that real life is like d&d races with stat points


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