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Why would people be against the technology to save and improve the lives of people? Cause they reject the wonders of modern technology well used to the welfare of humankind. In short, reactionary ideals. Pic related cause it's inspired by a 20th century woman who didn't believe in wheelchairs.
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>>2426683
Half this website is threads about things communists are in agreement about. People can discuss what reactionaries and capital are up to.
>>2426690
No, actual children are forced to give birth and die from complications. They also die from not getting vaccines.

shameless self copy and paste from thread where I was speculating as to why many on the modern american right hate Science when its not 19th century british propaganda about skull shapes:

tbh I think the astronomy hate/ flat earth shit is actually a very good example of how the burger right winger views the world. back when Galileo and Copernicus were developing early theories of heliocentrism a ton of reactionaries were big mad since that would imply the entire universe doesn't literally revolve around humanity(and by extension themselves). the modern burger chud rejects astronomy,evolution,climate change, public transport, the concept of society being more than atomized individuals,vaccination, modern medicine in general, public education, literacy and anything that might imply there's bigger and more important shit going on than themselves. They believe there special indigo children in a world full of mindless subhuman sheeple, meanwhile science usually says the opposite. They are just another homo sapiens no too dissimilar from the other 7-8 billion primates being affected my massive systemic problems we'll have to work together to solve. This is a fate worse than death for burger chuds.

tldr: retarded shit like this is the result of the reaganite neolibs basically turning main character syndrome into the state ideology of the US. A complete rejection of material reality in favor of whatever irrationalist nonsense strokes there ego to completion.


I would say abortion and vaccines as essential components of modern medical infrastructure would also fall into the category of things rightoids hate cuz they don't like the idea that they actually live in a society with other human being and actual historical context.

>>2426660
Nah it was just that I've heard people use luddite as slander but then are anti-abortion and anti-vaccines.

>>2426649
>if i shoot a person in their sleep, there is no rational agent to consider
Does that sleeping person have a functioning brain, yes or no? If yes, it's a rational agent. I can't believe I had to explain this

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>>2426759
No its a CIA agent

>>2426759
Does a newborn baby have a functioning brain? Obviously, the answer is yes, but it isn't fully developed

>>2426641
>I have no idea who the Luddites were beyond memes!
Easy 2 spot

>>2426774
They were reactionaries, read Marx you fucking retard.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/riazanov/works/1927-ma/ch01.htm
https://mronline.org/2021/05/07/marx-on-technology/
>The enormous destruction of machinery that occurred in the English manufacturing districts during the first 15 years of this century, chiefly caused by the employment of the power loom, and known as the Luddite movement, gave the anti-Jacobin governments of a Sidmouth, a Castlereagh, and the like, a pretext for the most reactionary and forcible measures. It took both time and experience before the workpeople learnt to distinguish between machinery and its employment by capital, and to direct their attacks, not against the material instruments of production, but against the mode in which they are used. - Karl Marx, Das Kapital Chapter 15, Volume I
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Capital-Volume-I.pdf

>>2426413
Germ theory was created by corrupt charlatans and the worst of the robber oil barons during the robber barron era of capitalism. The Rockefellers moved into the Pharmaceuticl industrial complex as they did oil.

They wanted to explain away how it was totally fine that people died massively from disease during an era where:
Literally no labour laws and some people are working 22 hours a day
12+ people lived in 1 house owned by slum lords that couldn't care less if their tenants lived or died
There was no plumbing and shit was thrown out onto the street
Which was also covered in horse shit
There was literally zero food regulations (as pointed out by Marx in capital of bread being full of saw dust)

Remember kids mercury is the most toxic substance known to human beings. Just not if it's in a vaccine and injected directly into you.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1280342/

Then it's OK.

Fomelhdyhyde too
And Aluminium

Oh and don't look at any charts of how much disease there was prior to either anti-biotics and the first vaccines.

It was plumbers, labour fighters for decent working conditions and civilised housing that got rid of disease. Not the ridiculous frauds of GermyTheory/Virology and their pseudo science and inability to isolate a virus with the advent of electron microscopy

>>2426830
>The Rockefellers moved into the Pharmaceuticl industrial complex
And yet all these fuckers on this site neglect the war on drugs despite it being a bastion of big pharma defending its interests disguised as "policy for the safety and welfare of the public", nobody fucking analyzes the global economic system of intentionally created crime that is the war on drugs and just jump to conclusions like "the CIA trades drugs, drugs are bad, Opium China AES law" just neglecting over 50 years of history with the US pushing its crooked fucking reactionary policy into the UN.

>>2426834
Also lol, in 1986 Big Pharma literally made the US government say they couldn't be held liable for their vaccines otherwise they couldn't make a profit. Lmao. From an industry that has profits more than the energy sector…
You know. What the Afghan/Iraq wars were about and why the US just put a bounty on Maduros head recently
https://www.globalresearch.ca/1986-untold-story/5847007

If you're vaccine damaged in UK the government will pay you £120,000 if you're severely disabled from a vaccine
<If you’re severely disabled as a result of a vaccination against certain diseases, you could get a one-off tax-free payment of £120,000.
<You can also apply on someone else’s behalf if:

<they’re under 16 and you’re their parent or guardian

>they’re not able to manage their own affairs and you act as their representative
<they have died and you manage their estate
https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

Keep rolling your arms up though

>>2426850
get polio and die faggor

>>2426775
The brain doesn't shut off while sleeping lmao are you serious?

>>2426775
>so does a functioning brain = rational agency
Why do I have to keep repeating myself?

>>2426869
does a functioning brain = rational agency?


>>2426876
its a yes or no, bro.
does a functioning brain = rational agency?


>>2426589
Working class people cannot afford unplanned pregnancies in this version of capitalism, we don’t have clans and we don’t have a farm foe those kids to work on.

>>2426885
communism isnt about making things cheaper and the reasons i support abortion are entirely unrelated to communism

>>2426648
This means you can kill literally everyone before the age of 2 to 3 and you can kill anyone with downs or level 2 and 3 autism

>>2426888
>you can kill literally everyone before the age of 2 to 3
and?

>you can kill anyone with downs or level 2 and 3 autism

and?????????

>>2426881
why dont you quote this instead: >>2426748
>Does that sleeping person have a functioning brain, yes or no? If yes, it's a rational agent.
because you know you fucked up, by implying that babies are rational agents, so you tried to change the terminology:
>>2426759
>>2426771
>is a newborn baby a rational agent?

<Does a newborn baby have a functioning brain?
pathetic.

>>2426890
I just don’t think we should have open season on anyone already born the way we do with hogs and deer idk maybe i’m spooked

>>2426898
nah im fucking with you, but pretending theres a 1:1 correlation between science and the legal system is as silly as pretending theres one between morals and laws

>>2426855
Given polio is spread in recent years by the vaccine, you jabbed faggot, you are more likely to die from it
<Four African countries have reported new cases of polio linked to the oral vaccine, as global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.
https://apnews.com/article/health-united-nations-ap-top-news-pakistan-international-news-7d8b0e32efd0480fbd12acf27729f6a5


>>2426897
No, you just have poor reading comprehension. Let me clarify my point since you're struggling to follow a simple point: once a brain begins to function — which is well before birth, but certainly not immediately after conception — it's a rational agent

>>2426914
>>2426834 (Me)
>Luddite
No I'm the one who made all the anti-luddite posts on here you retard. You're opposing the development of chemistry and botany.

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>>2426914
>>2426956 (Me)
You think I'm samefag?

>>2426906
>Given polio is spread in recent years by the vaccine, you jabbed faggot, you are more likely to die from it

You should get banned.

<Four African countries have reported new cases of polio linked to the oral vaccine, as global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.


<In a report late last week, the World Health Organization and partners noted nine new polio cases caused by the vaccine in Nigeria, Congo, Central African Republic and Angola. Seven countries elsewhere in Africa have similar outbreaks and cases have been reported in Asia. Of the two countries where polio remains endemic, Afghanistan and Pakistan, vaccine-linked cases have been identified in Pakistan.


<In rare cases, the live virus in oral polio vaccine can mutate into a form capable of sparking new outbreaks. All the current vaccine-derived polio cases have been sparked by a Type 2 virus contained in the vaccine. Type 2 wild virus was eliminated years ago.




<To eradicate polio, more than 95% of a population needs to be immunized. WHO and partners have long relied on oral polio vaccines because they are cheap and can be easily administered, requiring only two drops per dose. Western countries use a more expensive injectable polio vaccine that contains an inactivated virus incapable of causing polio.

>anti abortion
People are anti abortion wither because of religious beliefs or because they think that makes women more promiscuous.

>anti vaccination

After the pandemic and medical corporations rushing to make billions of revenue people started to get suspicious. Said doubt landed into shizo territory instead of pointing at corporate greed and manipulation.

>>2426603
Even if one was completely indifferent to the moral aspect of ending a potential life, abortion is not a comfortable or risk free process for the woman.

>>2426537
Yes.
G*rman roaches deserved it.
And the WHOLE WORLD agreed to this statement.

>>2427107
>because they think that makes women more promiscuous.
It's not a solution though, they will just give birth to more and screw more, if they want a solution they should get into bioterrorism and work to develop and protect the spread HIV/AIDs or attack the researchers trying to cure it.

Jesus, I though it was just a shitpost, but we have an unironic anti-germ theory schizo posting here.

>>2427118
Actually it would be better to just work on general development of STDs since HIV/AIDS is being focused on. Manmade STDs to be injected into prostitutes and transmitted to other whores.
LONG LIVE STDS!

>>2427121
Screenshot farming?

>>2427119
Leave little trofim alone you ableist he's just special

>>2427255
Yeah, duh.

>>2427523
You're a fucking retard my dude. You and he both should be banned for being disingenuous antivax cuckolds.

<polio is being spread by the vaccine

>actually polio is being spread by a mutated live virus and the injected vaccine western countries use doesn't carry this risk

<um sweaty are you making the claim that no one has said that vaccines don't cause any harm at all to anyone ever???

>here let me post some irrelevant numbers at you that don't have any explicit relationship with the polio vaccines in question

Since you're both antivax dipshits take the lead pill instead.

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>>2427584
You're talking about covid vaccines. I don't trust them either and don't give a shit since I already had covid twice and it didn't affect me at all. As for the rest of all the vaccines to exist you'd have to compile all the research and present it to make the case that vaccines in general do more harm than good, then you'd have to do convincing (if it really is the case) and you'd end up being dismissed anyway unable to do anything so what's the point?

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>>2426413
Actually it's about controlling women's bodies (which is a good thing)

>>2427584
>They at least protect against respiratory illness though.
Liberals are legitimately stupid and unable to grasp dialectics. They're like "I don't understand why people are allergic to the cats I put in my home to get rid of mice, cats are evil!"
>workdays lost
public anti-vax ideology: "we need to protect the children!"
private anti-vax ideology: "we need to protect Porky's profit margins by sacrificing more humans to the satanic altar of capital"

There's a reason why the Great Barrington Declaration was made by British reptiles!

>>2427589
>it didn't affect me at all.
how can you tell if you got brain damage or not? lol

Don't use Luddite as a slur. The Luddites were a pro workers movement not a Reactionary anti technology movement.

Abortion is an unfortunate necessity but if anyone really wanted to reduce the number of abortions outlawing it isnt the way. The way is providing living conditions. One of the biggest reasons for an abortion is not being economically able to have kid or another kid. There also needs to be paid maternal and paternal leave.

>>2427760
what is unfortunate about abortions?

>>2426586
>it has nothing to do with you since you dont fuck
Speak for yourself lol

>>2426601
You don't say

>>2426666
Just cum again uygha why are you storing your milk

I am pro abortion but antivax

>>2429928
what if the vaccines are made with abortions?


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