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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Citizens of nations cannot affect the laws in nations. Even if they have a cause and bond together and even if there is an international cause with a larger presence overseas.
Voting doesn't work, if it worked they would make it illegal. You only vote for parties which run with campaign promises and may not even follow up on them and even if they do - the results are always lackluster.
Rebelling and fighting doesn't work because it is impossible to organize it, the rebellion will be crushed and you're wagering your life.
Citizens cannot do anything meaningful. The only "change from within" comes if the motif to profit allows it to occur. So summed up
-We cannot do anything
-If we do anything to oppose the law it poses a life risk
-Protests don't work, peaceful protests are temporary and achieve nothing

So what is the solution?
There is no solution, most people are pretty much stuck in their life and can only complain or suffer the problems caused by the nation. If you want something, then you're simply not getting it.
As a citizen you will also be targeted by other citizens in real life and online for opposing the status quo, even by others who claim to oppose the status quo over preferences - wants, needs and attempts to exchange information. As a citizen your information and experienced values less than the material pushed out by the nation and its many resources.

Lets look at Lenin - why did he manage to succeed?
Lenin didn't even think the revolution would happen in his lifetime, he was out of his prime, suffered and finally succumbed to death before even getting to enjoy what he fought to create. Later it was all gone and his followers had split.
Why did he manage to initially succeed though? Because he had nothing to lose, whereas now everyone has something to lose with the majority of people being tangled up in the inter web - inter net.
Reproducing and creating a family with the principle of raising the next generation to not have possessions and become revolutionary is as pointless as it is cruel, since they will have nothing to work with and may not even adapt, it is likely that if they do adapt their struggle would be pointless.

How can we become propertyless? We can't. Our lives depend on it.
Is everything hopeless for the citizen who wants to change? Yes, he can only wait and be ostracized for knowing what other citizens don't and trying to introduce it.

The inconvenient solution is to go through life as it is, be affected by all the issues, sleep and not even try to survive but just cope and get increasingly more tired. This wait may or may not have any positive outcome.
Such is life for those born in the underclass. They can entertain themselves temporarily before relapsing into a depressive anhedonia. Entertainment is often done by telling made up scenarios to others and fabricating another identity to present to other citizens.

Madness, sadness, fear and tiredness are the four most common emotions for the average citizen.

Citizens want to experience a story with a happy end or some kind of intrigue, because of fictive works made by other citizens.

There are some really dumb citizens which are happy for no reason, they are generally disinterested in knowing anything or affecting the laws. A citizen surrounded by such happy and blissfully ignorant ones is completely alienated.

I think I largely agree

lol the middle class absolutely can and does affect bourgeois policy in their respective countries because they ARE proper citizens of bourgeois society, what the fuck is this vibes based idiocy

oh wait youre yet another of those "the problem of capitalism is that it doesnt properly fulfill the ideals in my head" radlibs

>>2437308
>lol the middle class absolutely can and does affect bourgeois policy in their respective countries because they ARE proper citizens of bourgeois society, what the fuck is this vibes based idiocy
On their wants or the decision that it would be profitable by the powers that be? Middle classers can do all things listed i.e. legal action for >50 years and still not see the outcome they desire. Many such cases.

>>2437298
>he had nothing to lose
bro had a wife and was living a pretty comfy life as an emigre before coming back to Russia after the February revolution

>>2437308
>"the problem of capitalism is that it doesnt properly fulfill the ideals in my head"
To most an ideal is an abstract cloudy image unimaginable to thinkers but easily imagined by fools - most who already believe to be living in an ideal situation or at least the best they can get / better than worse. Whereas the near wants and needs are not. The near is something that can be figuratively grabbed and used rather than a landscape to dwell in with everything present on the moment of desire. That's what distinguishes the two. The want and need is completely possible if it wasn't restricted by the nation whereas the first is always impossible.

Only the proletariat and, say, the homeless and stuff are excluded from the workings of society. The bourgeois, either petit or haute, those with property and/or considerable reserves making them have a stake in maintaining capitalism, clearly are not.

>There is no solution

To a politically impotent PB like yourself it might seem that way.

>How can we become propertyless?

What? The proletariat is already propertyless.

>happy for no reason

Of course the libtard falls for that "false consciousness" shit (without understanding what it actually refers to).

>alienation in the sociological and not marxist sense

Fucking pseud.

These are the romantic ramblings of someone who is merely disillusioned with capitalist society and believes communism is about the majority because they still believe in some special version of democracy.


>>2437322
>To a politically impotent PB like yourself it might seem that way.
A lot of persons wait, others spend the time to share what they are doing, the wait still persists in spite of the latter.

>What? The proletariat is already propertyless.

Neither deterministic nor heritage accounted.

>Of course the libtard falls for that "false consciousness" shit (without understanding what it actually refers to).

It cannot be a reason that they are programmed into it since others are resilient, the programming is persistent all the way through. This "no reason" is the case of inability to reason and analyze, a lot rely on the imagination rather than the reality, its often a retreat into denial. Not to speak of disabilities.

>alienation in the sociological and not marxist sense

Consumption is easier than production, lest they are masochists. What Marx wrote of "never becoming a (job title)" sounds more like a desire of any hobbyist than enduring production - hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner…

>communism is about the majority

Not at all. The October revolution was not driven by a majority.
>still believe in some special version of democracy.
Believe it or not, I consider democracy to be a contradiction, it always results in populism or consultations and compromises which can only contradict the interests of citizens and never truly establish what is correct. Democracy is teleology, it has no strive and eventually ends up coming to the decision to destroy itself.

>>2437332
>Democracy is teleology,
*Nothing can be determined by participations in it, it only seeks to settle affairs with compromises.

Will anyone look for a master key? I'm sulking.

What is the modern value of immanent critique? A complaint letter.

Post still has not been refuted

>>>/dead/ material?

>>2441362
>tfw drugs will never be legalized

>>2437298
>How can we become propertyless? We can't. Our lives depend on it.
The idea is someone that has the minimum personal property to survive is a prole: vehicles, phones, a drawing tablet (can't afford paper and ink), etc… and the only exception marx made for proles having private property was having kids.

>>2441372
Inherit a house but just give it away to become a true prole by 18th century standards? Never happening.

>>2441374
No one will purposefully go into poverty unless they are retarded, and if they're retarded enough to do it they will not accomplish anything, much like the majority of lumpen-hobo-bum-beggar population which only want handouts and alcohol.

>>2441374
Engels owned a house, Lenin had a house.


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