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EU’s “Chat Control” will be forced to scan every message, photo, and file before it is encrypted on WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, and other all other apps.
Politicians would be exempt. It is being sold as “child protection” but the EU’s own legal service warns that it violates fundamental rights. Once a backdoor into encryption exists, it is not just governments who can use it. Hackers, criminals, and hostile states can too.

Today (with real encryption): Message is locked on your phone. Not even WhatsApp, Signal, or Telegram (secret chat) can read it. Only the recipient can open it.
Under Chat Control: Your message is opened and scanned on your phone before encryption. If the scanning software believes it finds “prohibited” content, even by mistake, it is sent to the authorities.
Austria opposes the plan, but 19 EU countries already support it. If Germany joins them, the law could pass in October.

According to the campaign:
Mass surveillance: Every message, file, and image sent without suspicion would be automatically scanned.
Encryption undermined: End-to-end encryption would be weakened or broken, putting all communication at risk for everyone, not just criminals.
False positives: Innocent content such as jokes or holiday photos could be misidentified and trigger investigations.
Exemptions for politicians: Officials would be excluded under “professional secrecy” while normal citizens lose their privacy.
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Personally I thought they already did that. I guess things will just get worse.

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ (useless activist site, still detailing the decision)
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>>2438803
It makes revolutionary action harder. Surveillance by the bourgeois is going to benefit the bourgeois, simple as.

My question is, how on earth do they hope to implement and enforce this?

>>2446887
They can't. They hope for some miracle AI vapoware that doesn't exist to do all the scanning and are probably gonna spend billions on some scam AI business and be left with a barely funtioning bot that thinks your beach photos are CSAM. But it doesn't matter if the tech exists or not, the boomers in europol have been salivating for years to get access to everyones messages and now it looks loke they're finally gonna get it.

>>2442471
Both soft and hard power are being used to suppress communism, from the very top of the governments and companies everyone is anticommunist with all of society permeated with it. You do not see the forest for the trees, because anticommunism is simply normal to your eyes.

>>2448822
Literally every political group says this, your basis for saying this is among the weakest ones. You retards regularly post about how nazis are secretly in control. You're so deluded you think the US gives Israel whatever it wants out of geopolitical interests.

>>2440484
I actually think they know this will get overrulled in ECJ they just want to sell our data to USA and Palantir while the case is in thd court
If it passes we collectively will have 4 months to challenge it in ECJ

>>2446887
don't worry,you're not the one targeted.
they will either use AI to check,or it's just a blank card to put anyone the goverments wants on total surveillance while pretending it's "impartial" and "affect everyone"

>>2453590
Big business controlled the nazis, though, and yankees do use isreal as an unsinkable aircraft carrier

>>2446887
They will propably borrow from xkeyscore and the related suite of software

>>2460761
>yankees do use isreal as an unsinkable aircraft carrier
Israel does allow the US to use their land to transport or launch anything. Zionism sabotages their influence in the region as it is a uniting force for Islamists, left-wing and right-wing movements against Israel and the US. Supporting a genocidal jewish supremacist state does not help the US geopolitically in any way. Your talking points were created by the CIA to make anti-zionism stupid.

>>2460854
Supporting zionists is worth it for yankees even from a purely sunk-cost fallacy and christian viewpoint, and has consistently allowed ME to be kept in constant state of fuckup. The UAR is what america fears, and israel keeps away. Fedjacketing is shit and gay plus ought to get one banned.

>>2446887
Any systems they implement will rest on the cooperation of US tech companies in creating a data collection software and allowing data collection on their own platforms, as all social media in Europe is owned by the US (with Tiktok being the only exception, but even that has largely come under American control). Macron's dream of "strategic autonomy" will become more distant than ever.

>>2461272
Except most Arab countries keep cucking to isntreal, making the zionist entity a weapon that perfectly complements compradorist regimes in the Middle East.

>>2465843
meant for
>>2460854

>>2441321
>Marxism is not something you have to hide.
my boss disagrees with you, fucker

>>2465859
Your boss will either agree with you, or find your views juvenile. The later isn't the best situation, but you are retarded for pretending you're oppressed.

>>2466590
Bürgerreich corporations fire people for pro-union sympathies, what do you think they do to communists

>>2469748
Nothing, your political views are protected by law. The only exceptions are white nationalist ideologies.

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>>2470033
>Nothing

>>2470059
I'm sure you're very oppressed and constantly face repercussions for your political beliefs. No-one on the left outside of this thread acts like these things could effect their political speech in a negative fashion, they are far more concerned that it might become more inconvenient to access porn websites or that it might become more expensive, or that age restrictions on youtube become even more annoying.

Outside of these concerns, the left is generally fine with censorship laws as they are unlikely to be effected by them, and they are likely to use them on the far right or christian conservatives.

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>>2472431
If the state wants to pretend it supports free speech, they actually have to allow and protect protestors from groups you don't like.

If the government is secretly fascist, and you are oppressed for being a communist, why are you not in jail? Why would the state allow communist groups to become larger than fascist groups? They don't socialist for workers unions, those can be replaced by fascist unions.

>>2474263
Did you just fly in from stupidtown or something? Born yesterday?

>>2474295
You're a fat retard, that's why you fall for stupid memes.

>>2470251
>the left is generally fine with censorship laws
Can you give an example of a leftist who is ok with censorship laws?

>>2474263
Cry uygha

just give more power to big tech companies bro pls i swear this time itll be good we just need your personal information pls bro i swear

>>2474263
Explain how all Western media is crying about Charlie Kirk getting turned into a soda can on a gun range?

USA already does that

>>2438666
>>2438667
can I get a link to the article?

>>2474263
>they actually have to allow and protect protestors from groups you don't like
weird how they never protect left wing protestors

>why are you not in jail
plenty of communists are routinely harassed by the police, but they usually need some pretext to throw you in jail

>allow communist groups to become larger than fascist groups
they dont "allow" shit, its just that fascist group are universally reviled and cant recruit much

>fascist unions
those are like the pinkerton agency, specialists in solving labor disputes!

how the right can believe they're oppressed when all the political power positions and the biggest medias outlets support their narrative is beyond me. When was the last time you even saw a communist in a big media?

It seems like it will fail
Pressure from people calling politicians non-stop made a bunch of countries change their stance and even if it passes in the commission the entire parliament is now full of MEPs who will veto it for easy good boy points with their voters

Doomers are fags (I am gay I can say it). You CAN bully politicians into doing what you want

>>2475441
Von der Leyen has already started to lobbying for another try.

>>2475370
"No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State" by Glenn Greenwald

>>2475517
Yeah, and we know we can and will bully politicians out of it again

>>2438383
excellent opportunity to switch to a dumbphone and delete social media

>>2475401
>protestors from groups you don't like
>weird how they never protect left wing protestors
You don't ever get attacked, typically they have to restrain these protestors from attacking other people. These attacks should come with jail time but they don't.

>plenty of communists are routinely harassed by the police, but they usually need some pretext to throw you in jail
They have thousands of you on camera assaulting and vandalizing peoples cars. They have all the legal reasons they need.

>they dont "allow" shit, its just that fascist group are universally reviled and cant recruit much
They jail fascists for their opinions, and spends millions on anti-fascist propaganda. If the state was wanted more fascism no university or school would have anti-fascist material. You would not be able to find work as a communist or socialist.

>>2475401
>When was the last time you even saw a communist in a big media?
What would be the point of that? Progressives/liberals don't want their talking points repeated by a retard on tv, and they want their state censorship be advocated in a way that seems benign. They don't want a commie sperg to yell "WERE SENDING YOU TO THE GULAGS NAZI SCUM!". You're not oppressed by the state, because you're not the target, and frequently you work hand-in-hand with them.

>>2479464
KYS you retarded bourgeois troll

>>2475370
>>2475630
>No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State" by Glenn Greenwald
That's not it

It's "Surveillance Valley" by Yasha Levine

>>2479512
Why can you not respond in a way that has anything to do with reality or how people actually behave? Do you know any leftist who has been arrested for what they post online, a leftist party banned or anything in the Western world? You have to go to Islamist countries or ironically communist countries to see anything like that

>>2479538
read the thread (faggot)

>>2438383
Proposal just got shut down essentially

>>2479459
>>2479464
>>2479538
Bot, Troll, or Underage. Call it.

>>2479572
Do you find this sort stuff persuasive? No wonder they don't bother repressing you, you're too stupid to do anything except follow their anti-white rules.

>>2479606
cope and seethe faggot

>>2479607
>Do you find this sort stuff persuasive?
<goes on to rant about le white genocidino
LMAO

>>2479633
The state does not care that you are a communist, and won't use censorship or any of it's means of political repression against you, because you're simply not an enemy of the bourgeoisie

>>2479675
>The state does not care that you are a communist
I am sure the state of Cuba doesn't, but I don't think that's "the state" you are talking about

You seem very confident saying this, so I suppose you work for "the state". Are you a chinese agent luring me to move to PRC?

>>2479607
>>2479619
>>2479675
Bot, Troll, or Underage. Call it.


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