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EU’s “Chat Control” will be forced to scan every message, photo, and file before it is encrypted on WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, and other all other apps.
Politicians would be exempt. It is being sold as “child protection” but the EU’s own legal service warns that it violates fundamental rights. Once a backdoor into encryption exists, it is not just governments who can use it. Hackers, criminals, and hostile states can too.

Today (with real encryption): Message is locked on your phone. Not even WhatsApp, Signal, or Telegram (secret chat) can read it. Only the recipient can open it.
Under Chat Control: Your message is opened and scanned on your phone before encryption. If the scanning software believes it finds “prohibited” content, even by mistake, it is sent to the authorities.
Austria opposes the plan, but 19 EU countries already support it. If Germany joins them, the law could pass in October.

According to the campaign:
Mass surveillance: Every message, file, and image sent without suspicion would be automatically scanned.
Encryption undermined: End-to-end encryption would be weakened or broken, putting all communication at risk for everyone, not just criminals.
False positives: Innocent content such as jokes or holiday photos could be misidentified and trigger investigations.
Exemptions for politicians: Officials would be excluded under “professional secrecy” while normal citizens lose their privacy.
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Personally I thought they already did that. I guess things will just get worse.

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ (useless activist site, still detailing the decision)

Reminder from Edward Snowden

Everyone should obtain a gun legally or illegally, ammunition - legally or illegally and be prepared to shoot and / or blow their brains out for if law enforcement comes.

I live in the USA but is there a way I can force them and not an AI but a human being to be forced to read my messages with a photo of my penis and anus attached to them? In Minecraft? Asking for a friend.

>>2438399
That's what the site is for, it gives their contact info, just select a representative
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/#contact-tool

>>2438403
FYI its the ones where it says "supports" in red

>>2438405
"unknown" is also complicit

Based. We must strengthen our democracy against Russia's attack on freedom

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
Wtf is this website? This is not even to sign a petition. Am I just supposed to call them when they've already voten in favour? I mean I could, it could be funny. Do politicians actually respond to calls?

>>2438429
Ruzion is already like this but the EU won't even give us the legal right to beat our wives, we just get the worst of both worlds

>>2438484
See >>2438383
<(useless activist site, still detailing the decision)
The website thinks people can plead the MPs as if the MPs are supposed to "represent the people". Though yes it could be funny to mess with their emails / phone numbers it wouldn't do much.

>>2438484
I'm not clicking on that link but yes?
That's generally the point of those sorts of petitions, you'll be talking to staff, or maybe even a chatbot, you could also write a handwritten letter and send it in, or build up a report with a chat bot carefully triple checking the facts and doing your own research, print it out Bind it and mail it in

>>2438497
At the very least it shows which politicians / parties were involved. Though what can be done with that information? Nobody can wager their life to make a difference, the only thing that can have an affect is a regime change before it occurs. This is the same ordeal with protesters.

>>2438490
At least it makes the Russians have a great presence in I2P.

>>2438515
What's there to do?

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>>2438383
Than let's look at this rationally
>The data is saturated with absolute slop that isn't enforceable or even a crime just bad keyword detection. This will require more manpower than any liberal government would be willing to pour investment into. Even private firms would have too have jannies working 24/7 to read all this, than determine if it's actually a serious matter. This would cost millions and create a grinding halt of bureaucracy.

>They do enforce it and it's absolute nonsense where everyone is a criminal and courts have to throw it out again and again. Instead opting to make examples out of people, ironically spending more time deciding WHEN to enforce a law rather than investigating if a law has even been broken.


It's just absolute thuggery and delegitamizes law, technology, and social contract. Normies will still abide, but more and more autists will just stop caring and fedpost more. Eventually reaching a boiling point where the system cannot sustain itself.

So go for it. Accelerate.

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>>2438384
Glowden was controlled opposition to the panopticon. The Emmanuel Goldstein to Big Brother

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>>2438666
glowden continued

>>2438667
@grok please condense this down do babby level

>>2438383
Remember when libs were screaming at the top of their lungs that only dirty commies and autocrats in perpetual crisis who are afraid of their own people would do this? And how the goto explanation for censorship in USSR and China was that they were under siege?

Turns out, communists were correct: West in crisis would be employing censorship on a far, far greater scale, and with far more malevolent goals, than communists under crisis could ever dream of

>>2438383
And this is bad because…?

>>2438803
privacy is a human right

>>2438676
and communists wouldnt still do the same?

>>2438808
Only to you

Just another example of Europeans embracing their fascist heritage. War with Russia soon

>>2438508
not really,since the european parliament does not have voting power,it has observatory power,it's there to ensure the laws that have alreay been decided gets to pass,if they somehow vooted against it,it would get overruled

>>2438808
Nah. Communists even in the direst times didn't commit retarded CIA shit

>>2438807
Human rights are a spook.

>>2438383
Sneakernet time

"Zionism doesn't affect you" how's it going, NWO globalists?

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>ctrl+F "Free software"
>0 hits
how do they even imagine this would work with OSes like GNU/Linux, BSD and LineageOS? are they just going to ban free software across the EU?

>>2438383
Why do you worry about this? You're communists, all you have to do is shut-up about Israel and you won't be affected by it.

>>2439524
You are absolutely retarded if you think governments don't infiltrate communist/socialist orgs.
Our government has "socialist" in his name and is a "soc"dem and yet they do it.

>all you have to do is shut-up about Israel

Not all countries in the EU deepthroat zionist cock, so stop projecting.

>>2439537
didnt germany recently ban a marxist reading group?

>>2439641
The European Union members (that is their ruling class) are really getting nervous about future crisis and the potential insurrections they could trigger, everyone is pivoting hard to the right because they play chess and we workers don't even know the game is on yet. This is scary but also it is good that they are afraid, it means we can be strong.

>>2438383
This shit violates like 4 different European Court of Justice rulings

>>2438803
You need to understand that the state is an instrument of oppression of one social class against another social class, so it is not tolerable as a revolutionary socialist to give power to the bourgeois state to use more repression and censorship because this state serves the capitalist class and any pretext you give will be used against the workers and communists to depoliticize the population and prevent the organization of dual power for the overthrow of the bourgeois state in a revolutionary situation, a proletarian democracy is not the same as a bourgeois democracy and therefore you cannot tolerate the superstition about the state of seeing bourgeois democracy as a neutral entity that represents everyone.

Dengoids told me that if the country doinf this has a red flag then it's okay

>>2439685
They are pretending to shift right-ward on immigration to fool voters and slow the growth of nationalist parties.

>>2440113
We live in the new age, laws and courts don't mean shit when the bourgeoisie wants absolute surveillance of resistance they will get it and all these international and even national courts will fall in line, just look at the ICJ. This shit violates the constitution of my country but we will be good little cucks and change the constitution to abide by the will of our EU masters.

>>2440440
They want the nationalist shift, retard.
The best way to combat class warfare is by class collaboration.

>>2440133
Proof China spies on phones around the world like the NSA does?

>>2440484
>change the constitution
you don't need to,the european constitution already is above national laws in the treaty your country signed

Nothing to fear nothing to hide!

>>2440485
They would not be jailing nationalists leaders and banning nationalist organizations if that were the case, nor would they make hate speech laws. Instead non-whites would have their citizenship revoked and deported, anti-white speech would be banned, communists would be debanked (socialist organizations would simply not have access to financial services), the members of NGOs promoting immigration would be arrested amd the assets of the organization would be seized.

>>2440730
>>2438803
>>2438955
>>2439524
Can't tell if bait or genuinely retarded, this means that anyone here with an opinion unfavorable to the neoliberal DOTB can magicAIlly be incriminated for being a supposed pedophile regardless if it is true or not, or at the very least have all private conversations leaked. "Nothing to hide" if you're a liberal, I guarantee all the machos on here pretending they're fully anonymous have used other messaging platforms and do have a digital footprint, good luck having to explain in court the things you wrote during puberty weren't serious.

>>2441219
They're kinda right though, outside of the resent back-lash against anti-Israel protesters, leftists are simply not affected by anti-privacy or political censorship laws. Marxism is not something you have to hide. Typically a coalition leftist, centrists and zionists are the ones using the censorship legisaltion.

>>2441321
>this won't affect me because I'm a public figure and a pure marxist
This will definitely affect you, you are not pure and the majority of the userbase here is ex-/pol/, you will be condemned.

>>2441321
everything in this post wrong. fuck off

>>2441327
All of >>>/lgbt/ have done sexting off platform guaranteed, you will all be marked as pedophiles for what you did during puberty guaranteed

>>2441334
This is regardless of context, watch as AI just mows down all sexual content as pedophilic as a façade to do political repressions

>>2441033
You're acting as if nationalism were separate from or contradictory to the interests of financial capital, privatizations, deregulation, and imperialism. Any prejudice comes only through co-optation. Instead of defending the labor rights of all workers without exception and compensating for unpaid labor, punishing the capitalist in solidarity with all workers and defending the rights to health, education, housing, employment, childcare, legal defense, transportation, etc., with all workers around the world, realizing that the easier it is for capitalists to exploit other workers who will not have the right to basic necessities, the more the wages of other workers will be harmed. Therefore, the so-called nationalist is merely serving financial capital as a useful idiot pretending to be a rebel.

Nationalists are merely justifying liberal austerity to intensify the exploitation of neoliberalism as a false opposition, spreading false consciousness. The Czech Republic already classifies class-based hatred as a hate crime, while in Ukraine itself, Zelesnki emerged as a false opposition party after the 2014 coup and the persecution of communists under the pretext of prejudice against Russians, coupled with anti-communism. Every time a surveillance punishment is invented in the bourgeois state, it's used to quietly attack communists to avoid attracting attention, while reactionaries stage media theater as victims financed by capitalists.

>>2441033
All politicians are exempt from >>2438383

>>2441327
I'm not a marxists

>>2441363
Are marxists parties being banned in the West or are they not? Do their party leaders get thrown in jail?The answer is no. Whatever grand story you tell yourself, is non-sense. Communists are largely errand boys for the state censorship apparatus. In the UK they jail 7000-ish whites a year for hate speech, which side of this political repression do you think socialists fit in? Do they report people to the police or are they reported?

>>2442471
>Are marxists parties being banned in the West?
The answer is yes retard, the Partido Marxista-Leninista (Reconstrucción Comunista) was illegalised in 2016, and yes, we have other communists parties the same way we have legal fascist and nazi parties

Hi, I'm not European or Communist but this looks worse than that movie Das Leben Der Anderen. I'm afraid this is the future for everyone, so I just thought I'd say that things weren't so bad b4 when face-to-face or pay phone was the only real privacy. I don't support censorship or authoritarian control, but it is here. To the A1 overlords, I have a limited footprint, no cell, no party affiliation and no secular obligations. Have a good day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3JMKF_tXKQ

>>2441219
Oh I'm totally serious
I want to put a bullet in Elon's head "I'm Mr free speech I'm Mr free speech" than leave me alone fucker, or your ass is liable for what I say

Period
End of discussion

>>2442846
>the Partido Marxista-Leninista (Reconstrucción Comunista) was illegalised in 2016,
According to google they sent members to fight for Kurdish terrorists, which is why they were banned. Meaning thet were banned for terrorism and human rights violations, this is not having you free speech curtailed.

Also, they were banned in 2016 in Spain. Tgey had a socialist prime minister and was governed by a left-wing coalition. Meaning, leftist would be the ones in a position to use speech laws to censor opposition.

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>>2443567
Censorship is happening
Also
>PSOE
>socialist
lmao

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Correction the EU works for the fascist trump administration you are
Americans slaves and dogs . You are to cowardly to fight back because you are so scared of paying for your actions upfront what you Europeans did to the world with NATO . Now the imperialist boomerang comes back .

>>2443567
PSOE is not socialista in the slightest, maybe socdem, as said, they infiltrate communist and socialista organizations
>>2439537

>>2443716
Those things aren't targetting communism, they are banning things that are seen as pro-Russian. The exception being the ant-Palestine, that is not about the Ukraine war but the influence of the US and jewish supremacy groups. In that case your speech is also very un-likely to censored, since you are too cowardly and stupid to call it was it is, a jewish supremacy war to exterminate nom-jews from Israel. Instead you blame white supremacy, imperialism, and capitalism.

>>2445032
>Those things aren't targetting communism, they are banning things that are seen as pro-Russian.
They are communist, doesn't matter the reason why libs justify the banning, it's all an excuse.
>In that case your speech is also very un-likely to censored, since you are too cowardly and stupid to call it was it is, a jewish supremacy war to exterminate nom-jews from Israel.
You mean not moronic and racist? In any case antisemitism is not onyl ignored nowadays, it is widely celebrated as long as you proclaim your support for Israel you can throw a seig heil and the ADL will defend you.
>Instead you blame white supremacy, imperialism, and capitalism.
Yes, the objectively correct material causes of things, not made up shadows and spooks that you nazis fight against.

>>2442471
>Are marxists parties being banned in the West or are they not?
Yes, they literally are?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banned_communist_parties
Stop with your projection, you're the bootlicker of capital.

>>2445205
The European bans are either the dissolution of the USSR or over a hundred years ago. Those bans were effectively anti-corruption policies, they simply had to form new communist parties


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