EU’s “Chat Control” will be forced to scan every message, photo, and file before it is encrypted on WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, and other all other apps.
Politicians would be exempt. It is being sold as “child protection” but the EU’s own legal service warns that it violates fundamental rights. Once a backdoor into encryption exists, it is not just governments who can use it. Hackers, criminals, and hostile states can too.
Today (with real encryption): Message is locked on your phone. Not even WhatsApp, Signal, or Telegram (secret chat) can read it. Only the recipient can open it.
Under Chat Control: Your message is opened and scanned on your phone before encryption. If the scanning software believes it finds “prohibited” content, even by mistake, it is sent to the authorities.
Austria opposes the plan, but 19 EU countries already support it. If Germany joins them, the law could pass in October.
According to the campaign:
Mass surveillance: Every message, file, and image sent without suspicion would be automatically scanned.
Encryption undermined: End-to-end encryption would be weakened or broken, putting all communication at risk for everyone, not just criminals.
False positives: Innocent content such as jokes or holiday photos could be misidentified and trigger investigations.
Exemptions for politicians: Officials would be excluded under “professional secrecy” while normal citizens lose their privacy.
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Personally I thought they already did that. I guess things will just get worse.
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ (useless activist site, still detailing the decision)
>>2438484See
>>2438383 <(useless activist site, still detailing the decision)The website thinks people can plead the MPs as if the MPs are supposed to "represent the people". Though yes it could be funny to mess with their emails / phone numbers it wouldn't do much.
>>2438484I'm not clicking on that link but yes?
That's generally the point of those sorts of petitions, you'll be talking to staff, or maybe even a chatbot, you could also write a handwritten letter and send it in, or build up a report with a chat bot carefully triple checking the facts and doing your own research, print it out Bind it and mail it in
>>2438383Than let's look at this rationally
>The data is saturated with absolute slop that isn't enforceable or even a crime just bad keyword detection. This will require more manpower than any liberal government would be willing to pour investment into. Even private firms would have too have jannies working 24/7 to read all this, than determine if it's actually a serious matter. This would cost millions and create a grinding halt of bureaucracy.
>They do enforce it and it's absolute nonsense where everyone is a criminal and courts have to throw it out again and again. Instead opting to make examples out of people, ironically spending more time deciding WHEN to enforce a law rather than investigating if a law has even been broken.It's just absolute thuggery and delegitamizes law, technology, and social contract. Normies will still abide, but more and more autists will just stop caring and fedpost more. Eventually reaching a boiling point where the system cannot sustain itself.
So go for it. Accelerate.
>>2438383Remember when libs were screaming at the top of their lungs that only dirty commies and autocrats in perpetual crisis who are afraid of their own people would do this? And how the goto explanation for censorship in USSR and China was that they were under siege?
Turns out, communists were correct: West in crisis would be employing censorship on a far, far greater scale, and with far more malevolent goals, than communists under crisis could ever dream of
>>2439524You are absolutely retarded if you think governments don't infiltrate communist/socialist orgs.
Our government has "socialist" in his name and is a "soc"dem and yet they do it.
>all you have to do is shut-up about IsraelNot all countries in the EU deepthroat zionist cock, so stop projecting.
>>2440440They want the nationalist shift, retard.
The best way to combat class warfare is by class collaboration.
>>2441327All of
>>>/lgbt/ have done sexting off platform guaranteed, you will all be marked as pedophiles for what you did during puberty guaranteed
>>2441033You're acting as if nationalism were separate from or contradictory to the interests of financial capital, privatizations, deregulation, and imperialism. Any prejudice comes only through co-optation. Instead of defending the labor rights of all workers without exception and compensating for unpaid labor, punishing the capitalist in solidarity with all workers and defending the rights to health, education, housing, employment, childcare, legal defense, transportation, etc., with all workers around the world, realizing that the easier it is for capitalists to exploit other workers who will not have the right to basic necessities, the more the wages of other workers will be harmed. Therefore, the so-called nationalist is merely serving financial capital as a useful idiot pretending to be a rebel.
Nationalists are merely justifying liberal austerity to intensify the exploitation of neoliberalism as a false opposition, spreading false consciousness. The Czech Republic already classifies class-based hatred as a hate crime, while in Ukraine itself, Zelesnki emerged as a false opposition party after the 2014 coup and the persecution of communists under the pretext of prejudice against Russians, coupled with anti-communism. Every time a surveillance punishment is invented in the bourgeois state, it's used to quietly attack communists to avoid attracting attention, while reactionaries stage media theater as victims financed by capitalists.
>>2441327I'm not a marxists
>>2441363Are marxists parties being banned in the West or are they not? Do their party leaders get thrown in jail?The answer is no. Whatever grand story you tell yourself, is non-sense. Communists are largely errand boys for the state censorship apparatus. In the UK they jail 7000-ish whites a year for hate speech, which side of this political repression do you think socialists fit in? Do they report people to the police or are they reported?
>>2441219Oh I'm totally serious
I want to put a bullet in Elon's head "I'm Mr free speech I'm Mr free speech" than leave me alone fucker, or your ass is liable for what I say
Period
End of discussion
>>2442846>the Partido Marxista-Leninista (Reconstrucción Comunista) was illegalised in 2016,According to google they sent members to fight for Kurdish terrorists, which is why they were banned. Meaning thet were banned for terrorism and human rights violations, this is not having you free speech curtailed.
Also, they were banned in 2016 in Spain. Tgey had a socialist prime minister and was governed by a left-wing coalition. Meaning, leftist would be the ones in a position to use speech laws to censor opposition.
>>2443567Censorship is happening
Also
>PSOE>socialistlmao
>>2445032>Those things aren't targetting communism, they are banning things that are seen as pro-Russian.They are communist, doesn't matter the reason why libs justify the banning, it's all an excuse.
>In that case your speech is also very un-likely to censored, since you are too cowardly and stupid to call it was it is, a jewish supremacy war to exterminate nom-jews from Israel.You mean not moronic and racist? In any case antisemitism is not onyl ignored nowadays, it is widely celebrated as long as you proclaim your support for Israel you can throw a seig heil and the ADL will defend you.
>Instead you blame white supremacy, imperialism, and capitalism.Yes, the objectively correct material causes of things, not made up shadows and spooks that you nazis fight against.
>>2442471>Are marxists parties being banned in the West or are they not?Yes, they literally are?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banned_communist_partiesStop with your projection, you're the bootlicker of capital.
>>2440484I actually think they know this will get overrulled in ECJ they just want to sell our data to USA and Palantir while the case is in thd court
If it passes we collectively will have 4 months to challenge it in ECJ
>>2446887don't worry,you're not the one targeted.
they will either use AI to check,or it's just a blank card to put anyone the goverments wants on total surveillance while pretending it's "impartial" and "affect everyone"
>>2470059I'm sure you're very oppressed and constantly face repercussions for your political beliefs. No-one on the left outside of this thread acts like these things could effect their political speech in a negative fashion, they are far more concerned that it might become more inconvenient to access porn websites or that it might become more expensive, or that age restrictions on youtube become even more annoying.
Outside of these concerns, the left is generally fine with censorship laws as they are unlikely to be effected by them, and they are likely to use them on the far right or christian conservatives.
>>2472431If the state wants to pretend it supports free speech, they actually have to allow and protect protestors from groups you don't like.
If the government is secretly fascist, and you are oppressed for being a communist, why are you not in jail? Why would the state allow communist groups to become larger than fascist groups? They don't socialist for workers unions, those can be replaced by fascist unions.
>>2474263>they actually have to allow and protect protestors from groups you don't likeweird how they never protect left wing protestors
>why are you not in jailplenty of communists are routinely harassed by the police, but they usually need some pretext to throw you in jail
>allow communist groups to become larger than fascist groupsthey dont "allow" shit, its just that fascist group are universally reviled and cant recruit much
>fascist unionsthose are like the pinkerton agency, specialists in solving labor disputes!
how the right can believe they're oppressed when all the political power positions and the biggest medias outlets support their narrative is beyond me. When was the last time you even saw a communist in a big media?
>>2475401>protestors from groups you don't like>weird how they never protect left wing protestorsYou don't ever get attacked, typically they have to restrain these protestors from attacking other people. These attacks should come with jail time but they don't.
>plenty of communists are routinely harassed by the police, but they usually need some pretext to throw you in jailThey have thousands of you on camera assaulting and vandalizing peoples cars. They have all the legal reasons they need.
>they dont "allow" shit, its just that fascist group are universally reviled and cant recruit muchThey jail fascists for their opinions, and spends millions on anti-fascist propaganda. If the state was wanted more fascism no university or school would have anti-fascist material. You would not be able to find work as a communist or socialist.
>>2475370>>2475630>No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State" by Glenn GreenwaldThat's not it
It's "Surveillance Valley" by Yasha Levine
>>2479675>The state does not care that you are a communistI am sure the state of Cuba doesn't, but I don't think that's "the state" you are talking about
You seem very confident saying this, so I suppose you work for "the state". Are you a chinese agent luring me to move to PRC?
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