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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-city-officially-famine-says-global-hunger-monitor-2025-08-22/

>UNITED NATIONS, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Gaza City and surrounding areas are officially suffering from famine, and it will likely spread, a global hunger monitor determined on Friday, an assessment that will escalate pressure on Israel to allow more aid into the Palestinian enclave.


<It was the first time the IPC has recorded famine outside of Africa, and the global group predicted that famine conditions would spread to the central and southern areas of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis by the end of next month.



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Sites that have active live-blogs:
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• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)

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https://electronicintifada.net
From the UK, single issue long time Palestinian investigative and general reporting, critical source

https://mondoweiss.net/
From the USA

https://new.thecradle.co/
Regional news from an anti-imperialist perspective

https://www.btselem.org/Isrsaeli
Premier Human Rights org

https://www.972mag.com/
Left news and opinion webzine from Tel-Aviv

https://decolonizepalestine.com/
A collection of resources for organizers and anyone who wants to learn more about Palestine

https://www.normanfinkelstein.com/blogs/
Known anti-zionist academic Norman Finkelstein's blog

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>I guess Alex Jones is in the files (transsexual variety: those who know about the trans porn scandal know)

https://xcancel.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1958769699933888780#m

Can Hamas still win?

Or are we changing the definition of what a “victory” in Palestine looks like?

>>2442297
Hamas has already dealt a massive blow to Israel and drawn them into a precarious position. The full extent of this is being covered up by Israel so it's hard to say just how bad it is. One could argue by extension they've weakened western hegemony by putting on display the complicity in genocide and raising domestic discontent. Now when western powers copy Israel's playbook people are going to be much wiser to what's going on and it won't be as effective. Hamas was never in a position for a conventional military victory, only to resist the occupation. That they have managed to precipitate a change "public opinion" (i.e. the ideological conditions of the international working class) is in itself a huge win and something that nobody saw coming. Hamas fights for the world even if the world (mostly) abandons Palestine.

The results of the struggle won't be fully clear until it becomes history and we can look back on it in hindsight. There's not that much point in trying to forecast the outcome of the fighting in Gaza or the wider geopolitical implications.

>>2442297
Can you won against imperialism without nuking Washington?

>>2442324
So basically, the more Palestinians being killed the more Hamas wins. Got it.

Does Hamas have a “day after” plan for when Israel collapses?

>>2442297
Whether or not this was calculated on their part, they have baited Israel into showing it's true colors as a genocidal settler-colonial ethnostate. This has essentially nuked public opinion of Israel in the West. I would consider that a victory considering the Palestinian struggle had been all but swept under the rug prior to Oct 7th.

>>2442381
What’s Hamas’ day-after plan?

>>2442383
It seems very clear they are willing to relinquish control over Gaza if it means the newfound support for the Palestinian cause results in the formation of a true independent Palestinian state. They have said as much multiple times.

>>2442360
>>2442383
There's no "day after" you hasbara bot.
Collapses don't happen over night. If/when Israel loses their ability to continue the fight, the "front" can be pushed inward as more territory is reclaimed by militant Palestinians. There's also active discontent among the military officials because they understand that the politics of the war are causing them to incur unnecessary losses. A coup is not off the table.

>Kill scores of children
>Closely associate with the most hated administration in recent US history
>Attack popular ecelebs because they're doing "antisemitism" by saying Palestinian kids shouldn't be starved to death
>Not reining in vulgar genocidal oafs like Smotrich
>Openly protect a nonce from prosecution by letting him flee to Israel
>Epstein's possible ties to Israel
Result:
<Europeans turning against Israel
<No more talk of further Israel-Arab state normalization
<Actual honest to god antisemitism rising everywhere
<Literal "Jews did 9/11" and Protocol posting being tolerated and growing on reddit, xitter and other places
<US Zoomers most anti-zionist anti-Israel generation in history
Zionists are fucked aren't they? The de facto annexation of Gaza also makes a one-state solution more likely.
How long until Israel has it's South Africa moment? I'm betting before 2050.
>>2442392
Hamas winning the war on the battlefield is delusional at this point. It makes more sense to argue the annexation of Gaza, whilst a defeat for Hamas, is paradoxically a "victory" for the Palestinian and anti-Zionist cause, because it unravels the careful demographic balance in Israel, which was one of the reasons why Sharon ordered disengagement from Gaza twenty years ago. When there were growing calls for emancipation and citizenship by people living in the strip.

Their attempt at forcing other countries to take on Gazan refugees and thus ethnically cleanse the strip has failed.
And by turning their backs on a two state solution, there will now be demands for a one state solution, both within Israel/the occupied territories and internationally. Which will end the Zionist project (Israel as a Jewish ethnostate) forever.

>>2442512
>Zionists are fucked aren't they?

Maybe it's copium, but I don't think they'll be able to fully annex Gaza before they end up totally isolated.

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lol

I'm honestly surprised Israel hasn't been deporting the wb Palestinians to Gaza.

>>2442381
>US Denny's employees are now anti-israel
WOW. This is a riveting success. The loss of the one and only area of Palestine with an organized resistance is actually based now.

Dutch government just collapsed because PM wanted to introduce a bill to sanction Israel and his coalition didn't back him.

>>2443148
Is crazy how Spain is the most pro Palestinian state in Europe, I thought they liked seeing le """moors""" die and suffer

>>2443041
Public opinion of Israel is very important considering without public support in the west they'd have close to no allies, in a region where many people hate their guts and want to see them wiped out and destroyed. Same problem South Africa had basically.
People also underestimate (probably because much of the userbase here is relatively young) how for 20 years, 60% of people had a positive view of Israel.
I remember the early "War on Terror" when criticizing Israel at all was almost unthinkable, and was fundamentally anti-western, pro-terrorist, and an attitude associated only with fundamentalists, nazis, lunatic conspiracy theorists, and extremely fringe communists/anarchist "freaks".

>>2443178
Spaniards are surprisingly not ghoulish racists like much of the continent. I'd say it has a lot to do with modern Spain explicitly not being a nation state. The history of multiculturalism and Islam in Spain in general, both medieval and modern times. The Spanish Civil War, and the Franco Regime being hostile to Israel for much of its existence.

>>2443178
It's because they are one of the only governments in the EU that are still socdem-demsoc and the Spanish demsocs have ties to the Latin American Bolivarianists.

(Forgot to post link to the Gallup Polls)
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gallup-polls-on-american-sympathy-toward-israel-and-the-arabs-palestinians
Basically public opinion of Israel has been majority positive for over 25 years, until recently.
But I'd go further, and argue that what's happening now is public opinion turning explicitly negative, and pro-Palestinian. Which is different from the pre-2000 (Second Intifada & 9/11) era altogether. When support for the Palestinian cause hovered around 1% at times.
Multiple US members of congress accusing Israel of genocide? Completely unthinkable in previous decades.

Everything is documented and shown on live TV where were you when jews of all people commit ethnic cleansing?

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For a few days now in the imageboards there are pics being posted like these. My JIDF detector is off the charts.

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I'll be honest, the whole 'Israel has been crushed/going to collapse' shit feels as unrealistic as China collapse cope, right now.

>>2443709
It definitely is. I really don't know how anybody could possibly spinning the last two years as a defeat for Israel.

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>>2443709
Even in the best case, they can live is to fight another day, have a moment of peace and build a strong fighting force, but that hasn't happened, it's a slaughter and all their neighbours are scared shitless

>>2443709
Yeah. Unless their economy goes to shit, nothing will happen. Pissrael is still allowed to freely trade with everyone. No one but Yemen gives a shit about unlimited genocide and rape on children.

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>>2442512
>Actual honest to god antisemitism rising everywhere
>Zionists are fucked aren't they?
The problem with this is that it reinforces among Israelis that Zionism is the answer to their situation compared to the alternatives. It's like "the world is a hostile, hardball, fucked-up place" so Jews need an army and "here's where we draw a line in the sand." The premise that Israel doubling down llike this will work against them operates on the assumption that the Jews there are fragile and won't be able to fight forever or at least not as long as their enemies. But if that's not true then you end up with a disaster that doesn't lead anywhere.

>The de facto annexation of Gaza also makes a one-state solution more likely.

>How long until Israel has it's South Africa moment? I'm betting before 2050.
I'm not placing bets but I think something like this is possible. But what I think it might look like, is starting to look at who is actually doing the labor in Israel on the ground. Like, who's picking the crops, building the apartments, emptying bedpans, and guarding shopping malls (yes, there are Arab security guards working these jobs in Israel). There are Arab neighborhoods and cities in Israel, within the pre-'67 borders. The Galilee might be majority Arab. I've read anecdotal stories about a phenomenon that's similar to "white flight" in the U.S. where Jews uncomfortable living around so many Arabs have packed up their shit and moved closer to central Israel. (Even stories of frightened Jewish kids not wanting to go to the pool because the Arab kids are rowdy!) Real-life stuff like this involving ordinary people is often neglected because it's boring and doesn't seem important, but maybe it's very important.

There's also apparently class stratification among the Arabs there with a local political hegemony of Arab Christians, and the Israelis are encouraging Christian Arabs to identify (some do) as "Arameans" and to serve in the army. It looks to me like an attempt to fashion another loyal Druze-like minority who don't see themselves as Arabs. Or at least not like Arab Muslims. They even got a Greek Orthodox priest to act as an agent for this project.

Whatever happens, I think socializing people into a killbot factory the government calls the "Israel Defense Forces" is very important for Israel. The army is not just a machine for killing people, it's also the machinery for mass socialization of Jews (most of whom were arriving from other places) into "Israelis." And also select minorities like the Druze, and Arab Christians (although I know less about the extent of this). The army seems to bind them together more than other institutions. They have a problem with ultra-Orthodox Jews not wanting to serve, but more than 70% of the adult Jewish population has served at some point in their lifetime. It's a mass-reservist model and also contributes to the army looking kind of like a big (if well-armed) militia.

When Israel goes to war, it mobilizes a lot of people who remain in the reserves until their early 40s. Imagine you are in your 20s/30s and most of your peers have served in the army and are in the reserves, and have to go on duty for up to a combined 54 days per year until they age out. That's during "normal" times. And their parents/grandparents were the same unless they were middle-aged Russians when they arrived.

I haven't quite figured it out, but I think there are strengths and weaknesses to this model. One of the strengths is that the army is not as removed from the civilian population as many armies are. It practically is the civilian population. This is not a colonial army in its structure even if it engages in colonial-style occupations. Predictions that Israel wouldn't fight after the Al-Aqsa Flood raid were incorrect because the civilian population and the army united and locked up tight. This was very bad. You want to heighten the gap between the army and the civilian population. The Israeli government being unpopular with Israelis also doesn't necessarily translate over to the army. The army as an institution might predate the government as an institution (in a sense).

On the other hand, this army isn't inexhaustible. Also the fact that they have to draw so many civilians away from their jobs to do war has an effect throughout the society. Businesses can't find workers, or they shut down because the guy who *owns* the business has to go off to war. The shared "division of labor" between couples breaks down because one has been called up when he used to drop the kids off at school, and now the other partner has to do that in addition to their other duties. But they will fight if they feel the stakes are exisential. However, if they do not feel it is, then there will be a collapse in morale. From some Israeli reports I've seen, it does appear that Israelis are feeling more and more exhausted.

There's no clear end goal in Gaza. The political conditions for Israeli victory are: return the hostages and destroy Hamas. There are around 20 hostages still alive. But it's not clear how they destroy Hamas if Hamas' goal is to simply survive, and they can do that by blending in with the civilian population. Israel in turn wages war on Gaza's civilian population. The consequences are horrendous. At same time, I'm not sure how many Israelis are thinking today that Hamas poses a threat to Israel, because again, Hamas are now just trying to survive. So what's the point of calling up tens of thousands of reservists AGAIN and invading Gaza City? (Answer: get the hostages.) But then why not make a ceasefire deal to return the hostages? (Because Hamas, in a sense, wins.)

>>2443714
People often give the fell for it again award to MAGAtards but that's not accurate because MAGA voters were retards to begin with and there was no tricking involved. It's dem voters who are award winners for the fell for it again award. Remember those articles calling Joe Biden the reincarnation of FDR? Crazy shit.

>>2443874
What makes you think they were tricked? Trump was very open about
A) Deporting latinos and
B) Shitting on African countries


>>2443178
>>2443202
don't forget slovenia

If East Timor can win its independence and decolonization I don’t see why Palestinians can’t.

>>2443816
> But it's not clear how they destroy Hamas if Hamas' goal is to simply survive, and they can do that by blending in with the civilian population.
"Hamas" will be whatever next resistance movement arises. There is no way for Hamas to surrender or cease to exist in a manner that would satisfy Israel. They want to expel al Palestinians and expand Israel. Part of the issue with the army is that as you say it's a powerful binding experience, but in a special Israeli way. Because sure, the psychos whose job is to be a deathsquad or to form and pocket criminal organizations or to go and do the most horrible things imaginable are usually a select few in western armies. At least those officially designed to the task.

But in the Israeli army the genocidal violence, the supremacist colonial abuses are everyday bonding. Everyone is the squad that bonds by their "secret" gang rapes, everyone is the squad that bonds over their ritual cruelty. Everyone is the squad that bonds over being sadistic psychos. It's just that this duality is inherent ot being an Israeli and presenting Zionism to everyone outside their very limited world of world hegemon backed anachronistic colonialism.

Israel has all the reason to stop now that the UNRWA is gone, once thy clich the last of the credible guerrilla efforts. Once that's done, in a couple of generations, the Palestinians within Israel and the occupied territories will have even less of an identity than those abroad. New generations will not be employed by the UNRWA, they will not be educated by the UNRWA and their curriculums will be full hasbara. Israel is gonna be doing to surrounding Arabs what the Nazis only dreamed of doing with the Generalplan Ost.

And they need to, they need everyone to go through the army and come out a pedophile,rapist,murderer, supremacist psycho who can never truly bond or relate outside of those circles… because Israel lacks the demographics to expand and occupy the lands they want. So passing everyone through the monster machine is the only reliable way to import people who will be sufficiently committed to the implementation of Zionism. Because otherwise they will never locally produce the numbers to expand, or to hold the land, or to conquer it.

>>2443791
I'm dumbstruck why the argument hasn't been raised that if a Palestinian state legally doesn't exist (From the Zionist perspective), and "Judea and Samaria" (West Bank) and now the Gaza strip are sovereign Israeli territory, then it follows that the people living in these territories should all be entitled to Israel citizenship.
Anything less constitutes genocide or apartheid. You cannot have it both ways legally.
I know it's going to offend some people here, but compared to the ANC during apartheid (as raised in another thread) both Fatah and Hamas are objectively reactionary. The "progressive" demand would have been: Full citizenship and integration, as well as recognition of movements like Fatah and Hamas as legitimate Israeli political parties, even in return for disarmament, which then could also have served as a legal basis for compensation for the Nakba, and changed to the Law of Return.

The Zionist gambit to postpone both recognition of a Palestinian state and prevent a de-facto two state solution has failed. They've defanged the PA, and now severely diminished Hamas, leaving not much in the way of an armed opposition in favor of either a separate Palestinian state, or the abolition of Israel itself.
The full emancipation of all Arabs in Palestine/Israel is now the (perhaps only) way forward. And this is what "Leftists" should be pushing for.

>>2443986
Bigger question is whether that's desirable. I think full Portuguese citizenship (and its associated benefits 50 years later) would have been better than the Indonesian occupation which followed. But an autonomous region within Indonesia without continuous massacres and punitive actions would also have been better than what followed. With East Timor continuing to be one of the poorest countries in the world, with the Timorese people having little freedom of movement internationally.

>>2443816
Further reason why a one state solution and full emancipation should be pushed for, because it would break one of the social foundations of the zionist project.
Without an external enemy, and with non-Haredi jews losing their absolute majority this system becomes untenable. Unless they extend it to every citizen, but then they can no longer maintain both their ethnostate, and an ethnically Jewish army.

I think a place like Singapore has shown, together with many other explicitly multiethnic states, that this is not the end of a state or a people, but it does mean the end of apartheid and settler colonialism.
I also agree with your last point, and it touches on a Zionist dilemma and the reasons for the unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip twenty years ago: The point has always been to kick the can down the road. To keep the conflict going in a semi-frozen state, and prevent both the establishment of a unified state and separate Palestinian state. And maintain the majority Jewish demographic balance in Israel. As well as the preeminent position of necessity of the IDF as a social glue which turns Jews from all over the world into Israelis.
But that's all breaking down now. There's ever more Haredis, who do not wish to serve, or even in many cases, refuse to engage in any "profitable" (or at least taxable) economic activity. Discontinuing the wars also means everyone will be focused on Netanyahu and his domestic failures and scandals.
If one ends Hamas and any prospect for a two-state solution, it also threatens to upend the long-term demographics keeping parties like Likud in power.
The whole project is heading for a reckoning no matter if they "win" this war.

>>2443816
I thought the end goal was genocide? Bibi cares as much about the hostages as maga cares about epsteen's victims… Now pressure is on Hezbollah to disarm, which would mean further destabilization. It's almost like Israel needs violence to justify their existence. This is why a two state solution is the only way the Palestinian people will be able to thrive instead of trying to survive.

ITT: Anons squabble over the definition of "winning" in the changing environment of the conflict.

So far dying en masse, of privations under siege, *may* be winning but we really can't tell until the liberal Zionists declare themselves victorious over Netanyahu's government. Remain optimistic. No matter what happens to Palestinians, victory shall be ours, once Hareetz publishes it so.

>>2444591
Dunno about others, but I'm solidly on the "Hamas lost" side of things. But the entirety of the struggle was never completely tied up with Hamas anyway, anymore than Lenin was the beginning and end of Russian Communism.
This is however a new era.

Personally, I don't see the value of dwelling in fantasies about how Hamas will defeat the IDF in a final decisive battle and then all the Zionists will be immolated or something. It's cope at this point.
The ANC didn't win by destroying the South African state in its entirety and killing every white settler who moved there in the past one hundred years.
They won by securing emancipation, the abolition of the Bantustans, and full citizenship, political rights and freedom of movement.
That is what I believe the future is for the anti-Zionist cause from this point on. And it might be fought peacefully in courts and through protests both within Israel an internationally, or in the form of another intifada/insurrection, or both.
But I think the particular branch of anti-zionism represented by "defeating the IDF on the battlefield and killing all Zionists Haiti style" has reached a dead end.

You know, each time a Mossadist boasts about how they were able to hunt down and kidnap Eichmann from the other side of the planet, they are digging their own moral grave even deeper. Surely if they were able to get Eichmann from Argentina with zero civillian casualities besides the butthurt of some Argentinian Jew who never got his payment… they should be able to eventually to do the same for the Hamas dudes repsponsible for Oct 7, right?

>>2444003
Correct. Gaza and the West Bank could be purged entirely and they would say that there's Hamas in southern Lebanon, Sinai, Jordan, etc.

>>2444603
Israel isn't like South Africa when it comes to demographics. They have the settler population to replace the indigenous one. They're not invested in a project of white supremacy (with an indigenous population as an underclass) but white nationalism (removing totally the indigenous people). No situation exists where peace can be made with them, because they are committed to a fight to the death.

>>2445098
The same was said about Rhodesia and South Africa. It was a supposedly existential (racial) struggle against the indigenous population. But they still lost and were forced to accept emancipation.

Taking account both the non-Jewish arab population within Israel as well as Gaza and the West Bank, the growing Haredi population, as well as the increasing number of "left leaning" secular Israelis means the demographics keeping parties like Likud in power will become untenable as soon as the next election.
Shas + Likud is at 35 seats in recent polls. And the other remaining coalition partners are below the electoral threshold.

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Graphic footage from the Israeli attack on Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza's Khan Younis shows a strike hitting rescue workers following an initial strike.

According to Palestinian media, at least 14 were killed in the strikes, including three journalists.

One of them was a Reuters journalist and another was an associated press journalist killed in this strike by Israel so good luck to Israel with this shit show. Both news organizations work with thousands of outlets world wide

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn725ny0ryjt

>A Reuters cameraman and an Associated Press journalist were among those killed in the attack at Nasser Hospital

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>>2446312
>so good luck to Israel with this shit show.
It was Khamäs who killed them and even if it wasn't Khamäs, they deserved it for hiding Khamäs - Every nation but Yemen

>>2445132
>Rhodesia or South Africa
If Israel loses it's neocolonial enforcer role for NATO, then the loss is so much greater than those places swapping colonialism for financial imperialism. And so it won't be permitted to develop as those places did.

And if it doesn't, if the transition away from Zionism is somehow still leaving an Israel that is an attack dog of NATO… then has changed other than making Palestinians honorary Aryans of convenience? congratulations, this is exactly the same as the mythical "two state" solution and cannot be for the same reasons.

Cool lady.

>>2446312
This is an Israeli reporter. They are so desperate at this point to invent something

Very cool

Albanese un

>>2443773
>Unless their economy goes to shit
Israel is not an independent state. If anything ever happened to it's economy, the United States would spare no expense in bailing it out.

Double tap’ airstrikes: How Israel targets Gaza rescue efforts
In the aftermath of bombings, the Israeli army routinely fires on Palestinian rescue workers, paramedics, and other civilians to prevent them from saving the wounded, an investigation reveals.

https://www.972mag.com/double-tap-israel-gaza-airstrikes-rescue/

Great article.

>>2446389
>if the transition away from Zionism is somehow still leaving an Israel that is an attack dog of NATO… then has changed other than making Palestinians honorary Aryans of convenience? congratulations, this is exactly the same as the mythical "two state" solution and cannot be for the same reason
Well then you get it. The Palestinian cause isn't ontologically anti-imperialist. Anymore than any other "self-determination" struggle. It's an artifact of historical circumstance.
A none ethnostate Israel nevertheless acting on NATO/US interests in the region? I can see it happening. It's not like Palestinians or Arab Israelis need the western "Left" or their solidarity after they achieve full emancipation.
Or maybe Israel will go to the Cuba route, and will stand in opposition to western Capital and imperialism in the region.

But I disagree both outcomes are the same, as I'm not convinced a two state solution will make the latter more likely. Less really. Because these settler colonial regimes are notable for their anti-communism and dependence on imperialist backing. They way they're organized, survive and operate is anathema to socialism.
People tend to forget South Africa performed much the same role Israel did during the Cold War: Keeping down communists in the region, including within SA. With US support.
Struggles for "self-determination" or emancipation also take up so much "space" culturally, etc. That they cast a shadow on the communist movement, unless communists are themselves inseparable from this struggle, as was the case in Russia and Vietnam (With Ho Chi Minh also aspiring towards an eventual Indochina federation).
This isn't the case with Hamas/Fatah however because they're typical libnats, and in case of Fatah, almost inseparable from compradors.

Hitler tried to stop this

>>2446848
As if Hitler hadn't mass starved to death his own prisoners of war.

>>2446866
No evidence of this ever happening

>>2446867
I hope you get dragged to hell by the millions of dead Soviets you had just insulted so hideously.

>>2446869
>No I am not pretending I really am upset about POWs dying in a war from almost a century ago
LOL okay, sure thing.

>>2446876
>Says someone who surely cries himself to sleep each night over an imagined "genocide" of Byzantinians by the "Turkish horde" 500+ years ago.

>>2445098
Why are you blaming Jewish crimes on muh white people. Israel is a Jewish supremacist state not a white nationalist one.

>>2446395
babykillers OUT

#winning

My personal view on why America helps Israel so much consists of several aspects. First, the United States is a global superpower. The only countries or groups that can currently compete with the United States in power or influence are China and the European Union, and you also have the Gulf states with their control over oil resources. The United States wants to maintain this role as the number one power. So far, the United States has 600 military bases around the world, and to maintain its influence in these places, it has supported the removal of democratically elected governments, funded opposition groups within countries with money and training to destabilize them, invaded countries militarily, formed alliances with wicked leaders, and mistreated noble leaders. They have ignored people’s violations and supported violations as well. The U.S. government does not care at all about human rights, women’s rights, freedom, or democracy. They only care about maintaining their influence at any cost.

Before the establishment of Israel, as you know, it was a region primarily inhabited by Arabs of Muslim origin. After World War II, a large number of Jews were displaced, and various world powers made an agreement to send Jews to that location. This was, as you know, something terrible and genocidal in its outcome, as people did not simply join Palestine but removed hundreds of thousands of Muslims. When this first happened, the Soviet Union immediately recognized Israel as a state. They believed Israel could be their ally.

Shortly afterward, when the United States committed to supporting Israel and Israel was not following Soviet plans, the Soviets decided to ally more with the Arab world and Arab states. And as you know, the Soviets and the United States always had many problems, which made it easy for one side to fund Israel and the other side to fund the Arab states.

When World War II broke out, millions of Jews migrated to the United States. Half of the Jews in the world live in the United States. These people gained political and financial power that allowed them to lobby for Israel and create support for it. Then you have the larger group of Christians, who are told in the Bible to support the land of Israel, and they also hold power in the United States.

Bringing together these two groups of wealth and power makes it necessary, as a politician, to align with pro-Israel views, because U.S. politics requires a lot of donations, and news outlets have huge influence that can destroy your career, and they are privately owned by the wealthy, who are likely wealthy Zionists. This created an environment where it is in your interest, in order to hold power, to vote in ways that help Israel and publicly express views that support it. As you know, Israel’s location is where a very large part of global trade passes, with the Suez Canal next to your country and Israel. This is an important area for the United States to access, so it needs good relations with the countries in that location to do what it wants there.

Since the United States has more than 600 military bases around the world and wants to control strategic trade routes like this, it not only needs to establish relations with countries but also to establish embassies there, news institutions, and form alliances with political or local groups to advance its interests there. And to allow it to do so, it needs to offer something to the country: either protection, money, intimidation by force, goods, fighting their enemy, or creating opportunities for their growth. With Israel, the United States has a partner, and it needs surrounding countries to align with Israel. So it pays Jordan and Egypt a lot of money every year to maintain a civil relationship with Israel so that the United States can continue accessing these areas.

When there is a leader the United States agrees with or who accepts its bribes, the United States will not ruin his life. When they stand in the way of the United States, you may face an invasion, propaganda against you, assassination, sanctions, or support for your opposition as well. For the United States to do this, it needs to maintain relations with surrounding countries it wants to pressure militarily and also offer bribes or other things to neighboring countries so that they become enemies of that state too or stop approaching it. This is what you see in how the United States deals with Iran.

Over time, Israel, through funding from many Western countries and training and education systems, became an independent state that the United States can arm against enemies in the region, as Israel has a decent army, a lot of technological progress, and strong protection with defense systems, so it ended up functioning as a floating military base for the United States in that region.

This allows the United States to maintain its power in that region. And to strengthen this power, they have to make sure opposition does not grow in surrounding countries that openly oppose Israel in its actions or countries that decide to fight against them. They do not need them to be best friends but only to mind their own business. So the United States pushes these countries to reach agreements with Israel in documents, recognize capitals, bring their own embassies there, trade with Israel, and shut down anti-Israel people in those countries. When a country starts bothering the United States in this regard, the United States often funds groups to fight them even within their own state or buys people to create problems.

That is the military side of everything I said. The secondary part is what you may have heard—that a large portion of the richest people in the world are Jews, so they will have great power to push people to support Israel, which makes it in their interest to do so, as well as wealthy Christians. These people want Israel to be strong, for Jews to be strong, or they have some biblical beliefs requiring Israel, so they want the state to be powerful. All

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>>2448605
>only countries or groups that can currently compete with the United States in power or influence are China and the European Union

>>2448605
I ain’t reading all that

Congratulations or sorry that happened

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/08/11/israel-iran-war-trump-nuclear-august-december/

>[W]ith its June attacks, Israel achieved a partial victory at best. Its preferred outcome was for Trump to fully engage, targeting both Iran’s conventional forces and economic infrastructure. But while Trump favors swift, decisive military action, he fears full-scale war. His strategy in attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities was thus designed to limit escalation rather than expand it. In the short term, Trump succeeded—much to Israel’s chagrin—but in the long run, he has allowed Israel to trap him in an escalatory cycle.


>His refusal to escalate beyond a limited bombing campaign was a key reason that Israel agreed to a cease-fire.


>Regardless of whether Iran resumes uranium enrichment, Israel is determined to deny it time to replenish its missile arsenal, restore air defenses, or deploy improved systems. That logic is central to Israel’s “mowing the grass” strategy: strike preventively and repeatedly to prohibit adversaries from developing capabilities that could challenge Israeli military dominance.

>This means that, with Iran already rebuilding its military resources, Israel has an incentive to strike sooner rather than later. What’s more, the political calculus around another attack becomes much more complicated once the United States enters its midterm election season. As a result, a strike could very well take place within the coming months.


>This, of course, is the outcome that Iranian leaders want to deter. To dispel any illusion that Israel’s “mowing the grass” strategy works, Iran is likely to strike hard and fast at the outset of the next war.

Venice: Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Jonathan Glazer Back Gaza Drama ‘The Voice of Hind Rajab’ as Executive Producers
Kaouther Ben Hania's film retells the real-life story of a six-year-old girl trapped in Gaza under Israeli fire, pleading for rescue.

Hollywood heavyweights, including Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, and Rooney Mara, have come on board Kaouther Ben Hania’s Gaza-set drama The Voice of Hind Rajab, as executive producers, boosting the film’s profile ahead of its world premiere in competition at the Venice Film Festival.

Also joining the film as executive producers are Dede Garner and Jeremy Kleiner of Pitt’s production outfit Plan B, The Zone of Interest director Jonathan Glazer, and Roma filmmaker Alfonso Cuaron. Several high-profile companies, including Britain’s Film4 and Saudi Arabian state-owned group MBC Studio, have also backed The Voice of Hind Rajab.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/brad-pitt-backs-gaza-drama-film-the-voice-of-hind-rajab-1236353414/

The Voice of Hind Rajab (Arabic: صوت هند رجب) is an upcoming 2025 drama film written and directed by Kaouther Ben Hania. It follows the killing of Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl who lived in the Gaza Strip and was killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza.[3][4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voice_of_Hind_Rajab

W

https://archive.is/zcjjZ#selection-295.23-297.89

Ahead of Gaza City Conquest, Israeli Ground Troops Say They're Treated Like Cannon Fodder

<Israeli ground troops in Gaza report life-threatening equipment shortages due to budget limitations, even as billions are spent elsewhere. The constraints have heightened tensions with the better-funded Air Force, particularly as a major operation looms in Gaza City

>>2442324
> when western powers copy Israel's playbook people are going to be much wiser to what's going on and it won't be as effective
This is delusional. The playbook in question isn't even uniquely Israeli.

>>2442360
Jewish nigger

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Hollywood is now turning against Israel?

>>2446395
The Rebel News disease has spread to Australia? Damn. Good on that lady for treating that goof like the piece of shit he is, I hope her hair salon gets inundated with appointments and that nice things happen for her in general.

Microsoft workers are trying to force the company to stop serving israelis
https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1960774693146820637

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why is north korea such a dystopian country

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avg israeli government tweet

>>2450355
can you maybe find a better source than nazi news

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>>2449899
based Brad Pitt??

>>2450806
if they remove the early life section rachel sennot's groyper hatemail is going to triple overnight

>>2450238
>X is now turning against Israel?
Well everyone will at some point been against the second Nakba, other than people and organizations whose identity is *just* Zionism. Even Joe Biden's admin is already washing their hands off it.

But don't get tired of WINNING yet, fellow anti-Zionist. I have it on good word that the good people of Israel (Anti-Netanyahu) are planning to institute mandatory land acknowledgements for at least a couple of years in Israeli Gaza, before corporate AND public sector meetings.

And, aaaand peep this out: There are some A-M-A-Z-I-N-G-L-Y scathing Hareetz and 972mag articles in the pipeline. I'll tell you now, Israel is never gonna live down the second Nakba! We got em'!

>>2442512
>Hamas winning the war on the battlefield is delusional at this point.
>at this point
It was never feasible. The problem is, Israel's "victory" would always be too costly, and be the end of them.

>>2450658
Can you find a better thing to kvetch about?

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>>2451948
>terror censored
fuck off maybe
Also why is the color of the writing italian or irish, cote d'ivoire? Solid idea, bad execution

You can drop the white, not the black (actually on second thought, you run into problems with certain african flags or the pan-african) if you want to have 3 colors and make it distinct. I don't know I'd have to see it before me.
I know fuck all about this composition or design in general but I definitely know this is less than ideal.

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Bad day for the russian saboteurs

>>2452961
Can’t even use a (((slur))) these days smh

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So what now? Its over?

>>2453945
Give proofs not some twitter who.
If this indeed did happen, hinkle would cry and weep on his twitter.

>>2452962
The mods are fake and ghey. This is not the only word filter. For example, the funniest one is ᴉuᴉlossnW

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>Israeli airstrike kills Houthi prime minister in Yemen, rebels say

>Ahmed al-Rahawi killed alongside several ministers gathered for prerecorded speech by rebel group’s leader


>The premier was targeted along with other members of his Houthi-controlled government during a “routine workshop held by the government to evaluate its activities and performance over the past year”, the Houthi statement said.


>Thursday’s Israeli strike took place as the rebel-owned television station was broadcasting a speech by Abdul-Malik al-Houthi, the secretive leader of the rebel group, in which he was sharing updates on the latest Gaza developments and vowing retaliation against Israel. Senior Houthi officials used to gather to watch al-Houthi’s prerecorded speeches.


>The strike that killed the prime minister targeted a meeting for Houthi leaders in a villa in Beit Baws, an ancient village in southern Sana’a, three tribal leaders told the Associated Press. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared repercussions.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/30/yemens-houthis-say-israeli-airstrike-killed-their-prime-minister

>>2454119
Hopefully the response will be an airstrike on the I$raeli prime minister netyahu that kills him, all associates, and his extended family.

>>2454119
Well shit.
They never learn holy shit.
First Nasrallah, now this.
I'm not even counting Soleimani.
At least Abu Obeida is still invisible. Though I don't know how long.


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Pathetic

why are there so many iranian zionists?

>>2454964
I hate to blame the victim but if you are in the Houthis position why would you have all the top people come together in one place? Surely they knew they are still a target

>>2454961
<it's le over!!!!!11
How do we still have underage faggots who post like this, i thought jannies were supposed to be working again?

>>2454961
>>2454278
Lol how does israel keep getting away with this? I have an answer. They are more technolgically advanced and no techno advanced country is helping palestine. Not even russia or china.

>>2455140
Have you been living under a rock?
There is no-one left to lead hamas and hezbollah. They just keep striking the top until nobody has the guts to lead. You can only expect token resistance. Nobody is helping them. Even Iran was fucked so hard they are scared of israel. I'm sorry but this is just a fact at this point. Hamas should have stormed tel aviv but instead they just decided to do hostage PR and stupid shit. Russia did the same shit and only because they have more numbers, they can win this attrition war. The axis of resistance is dead. We are next. Everyone not of the elite will be surveilled and logged like cattle. The bad guys are winning. And I wish I had good news but fuck no.

>>2455160
These orgs keep replacing their leaders, it’s not really possible to destroy them

His death is confirmed, crazy he had the guts to stay in Gaza after all the rest of Hamas leadership got killed since many months
Wasnt he the last survivor of pre-2023 Hamas leadership ?

>>2455054
They're good at hacking phones. Apparently a weak link in Iran's security is that senior officials wouldn't carry phones but their drivers and bodyguards would and the Israelis hacked those. They nearly killed Pezeshkian this way but the bombs didn't do enough damage to the bunker and he got out.

<> >>2456271

(From a rally of a few thousand reactionaries in reaction to the recent Palestine rallies of hundreds of thousands)

>>2456273
Damn, cites in orangetext are broken lol

>>2456271

>>2455763
The soviets had their own mobile phones (yes they were primitive by the 1980s, but they were functional) why can't Iran make unhackable phones? All this shit is possible because Israel embeds itself into android development teams and that is why Pegasus costs a shit ton of money. It's not because they are really good hackers, it's because the proceeds from pegasus go to funding bribery of engineers to leak or create backdoors that only the NSO group would know. You would be surprised just how much code is in 1 megabyte of text. It would take 3 hours to comb through it and that is without doing it meticulously. Seriously, Most people don't know the forest of bugs on modern electronics.

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THE HAGUE, Sept 1 (Reuters) - The world's leading genocide scholars' association has passed a resolution saying that the legal criteria have been met to establish Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, its president said on Monday.
Eighty-six percent of those who voted among the 500-member International Association of Genocide Scholars backed the resolution declaring: "Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide in Article II of the United Nations Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948)".

"This is a definitive statement from experts in the field of genocide studies that what is going on on the ground in Gaza is genocide," the association's president, Melanie O'Brien, a professor of international law at the University of Western Australia who specialises in genocide, told Reuters.
Sergey Vasiliev, a professor of international law at the Open University in the Netherlands who is not a member of the association, told Reuters the resolution showed that "this legal assessment has become mainstream within academia, particularly in the field of genocide studies."
Several international rights groups and some Israeli NGOs have already accused Israel of committing genocide. Last week hundreds of U.N. staff at the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Turk wrote to ask him to explicitly describe the Gaza war as an unfolding genocide, according to a letter reviewed by Reuters.

https://archive.is/pqGnG

What will the Zionist cope be to this

>>2456429
There won’t be a cope, they’ll just say “It’s our turn, fuck you”

>>2456429
The US will invade the Hague before they acknowledge Israel is committing genocide.

>>2456723
Invading the Hague would probably prove disastrous for the US in the long term

>>2456724
>The American Service-Members' Protection Act, known informally as the Hague Invasion Act[1] (ASPA, Title 2 of Pub. L. 107–206 (text) (PDF), H.R. 4775, 116 Stat. 820, enacted August 2, 2002) is a United States federal law described as "a bill to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party."[2] The text of the Act has been codified as subchapter II of chapter 81 of title 22, United States Code. The act gives the president power to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court".[3]

>>2456729
We know. that in no way invalidates what OP said.

>>2456729
Think of the optics if this was actually done though, if the US itself pushes things too far dedollarization accelerates and the rest of the world suddenly can out economic and political pressure on the US

>>2456733
Disastrous long term consequences don't seem to stop the US from doing other ill-conceived things.

>>2456746
The US very obviously doesn't care about optics. It stands alone with Israel voting down every common sense good idea the US puts forward for consideration.

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cartoon villain ahh country

>>2456429
That about the average time for liberals to catch up with me.

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>>2456974
>cartoon villain ahh country

>>2456764
*UN not US, in the second part there
lol

>>2457503
Comments are fucking gross. Ziorats need annudah october 7 to happen to them. I have no sympathy for "muh hostages". Fuck your hostages. If I was a hostage, I would have joined hamas already or worked as a medic or some shit.

>>2443205
>when jews of all people commit ethnic cleansing?
idk why that's remarkable, the Canaanites didn't leave voluntarily

>>2457971
Agreed. This shit has happened thousands of years ago. The zios just want to live like it's the bronze age. They kind of forget tho, that what hamas did is a walk in the park to what was done in the bronze age. The zios want to have their cake and eat it too. They want genocide, but only against their enemies. It doesn't work that way and they might get bomber harris'd in the process.

>>2457505
how many were killed by the IDF. its not like they give a shit about them either lol

>>2457503
Yes thank you I mistyped I meant they vote down everything the UN puts forward.

>>2457971
>>2457982
The Israelites were Canaanites. The biblical genocides have no supporting historical evidence. The zionists are trying to recapture that "lost glory" but it's not actually real in the first place.


IDF are feds.

>>2458489
You got it the wrong way around

>>2456325
>why can't Iran make unhackable phones?
If they did they have to go back to making primitive 80s shit but the real problem is Israel is completely embedded in the tech sector and Iranians/Russians/Arabs keep buying this shit. I don't think even Chinese phones would do the trick.

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In an attempt to obstruct medical institutions amid ongoing massacres against civilians, Israeli occupation drones are setting fire to the only available ambulances in Gaza City, along with civilian vehicles and homes, at Sheikh Radwan clinic in the north of the city.

https://xcancel.com/QudsNen/status/1962980272510583030#m

Israeli occupation quadcopter drones throw incendiary bombs on civilians and cars in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood in Gaza City.

https://xcancel.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1963129020574203913#m

Gaza City right now.

Israel is massively bombing entire civilian neighborhoods in the middle of the night.

Families are trapped in their homes as Israeli bombs rain down.

This is an American-backed, American-funded Holocaust.

https://xcancel.com/sahouraxo/status/1963003637363315092#m

Thiago Avilla reports about the surveillance drones that flew above the Sumud Freedom Flotilla ships in international waters while heading to Gaza

https://xcancel.com/QudsNen/status/1963011969717281133#m

The Global Sumud Flotilla is launching today. Over 50 ships from 44 countries are taking part in the largest civilian mission to break Israel’s siege on Gaza.

BT’s Joel Northam is on board and will be reporting as it sets sail from Barcelona

https://xcancel.com/BTnewsroom/status/1962179221532336286#m

Gaza strip
8 July 2023 vs September 1, 2025.

Israel must be held accountable for this.

https://xcancel.com/TARUNspeakss/status/1962926675395805680#m

3 year old Abdullah Al-Hour, the sole survivor of his family, suffered severe burns after an Israeli airstrike on their home in Al-Daraj neighborhood, Gaza City.

https://xcancel.com/vikingwarior20/status/1963104383958192273#m

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>literal neo-Nazi org host various high-profile rallies in Australia, speak at them, harass Zionist streamer and beat up his bodyguard
>Australia's Special Envoy to Combat Antisemitism (government appointment) doesn't bat an eye
:0

>>2459355
>>2459355
Sick Mr Benji on these dog-cunts please. Kind regards from the land of up-over.

>>2458638
So the Dancing Isn'treali thing is true. It was true in 2001. It was true in 2023.


>>2459828
FDPD FDPD

>>2459828
>>2459833
I hope there is an archive of all of these. At least something good is happening in Gaza.

israelis blow up a donkey for fun

>>2454961
How did I miss this? This is so fucking bleak man

>2 lightly hurt by Houthi drone impact at terminal in south Israel’s Ramon Airport, medics say

<One of the victims was hit by shrapnel or the blast of the impact, while the second is being treated for acute anxiety, according to the ambulance service.


>The drone launched from Yemen struck the passenger terminal at the airport north of Eilat. The IDF is investigating.

Gunmen entered a bus in settlement area and started shooting this morning


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>>2465688
Bada bing bada boom

palestinians killed up to 5 israelis at a bus stop in jerusalem

>Reuters is reporting that Israeli foreign minister Gideon Saar has said that six people were killed in the Jerusalem attack (not five as Israel’s ambulance service has said).

>Saar made the comments as he was speaking via a translator at a joint briefing with Hungarian foreign minister Peter Szijjarto in Budapest.


>We have not yet been able to independently verify the death toll.


>Israel’s defence minister, Israel Katz, has warned that a “powerful hurricane” will “strike the skies of Gaza City” later today as the military continues to expand its assault on the territory’s largest city.


>“Today, a powerful hurricane will strike the skies of Gaza City, and the roofs of the terror towers will,” he wrote in a post on X.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/08/middle-east-crisis-live-jerusalem-shooting-israel-threatens-gaza-city-powerful-hurricane-latest-news

>>2465715
Another KKKrakkka down.

>>2465688
🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

>>2465715
Watch as 90% of your "allies" pivot to "cycle of violence" and both sides "denouncing terrorism".

Watch all the liberal Zionism that you claim as victories of the left shows it's true colors.

6 Israelis getting killed today gets more media coverage than the 60 Palestinians killed today

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ISREAL NUKED MOTHERFUCKING DOHA

>>2467192
They really have a carte blanche don't they? They could bomb greece or something and nothing would be done about it

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>>2467200
Zionist occupied government world. ZOW is real.

>>2467192
this is AI right, there's absolutely no fucking way

>>2465712
Based comments

>>2467205 (me)
>it's real
OPERATION BIBIROSSA IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>>2467205
It's not a nuke if that's what you're asking. Just one small house.
>>2467199

>>2467202
Then they have no right to exist. Their bullshit chosen peeple belong in the bronze age.

>>2467208
Xitter is saying multiple targets/houses were struck

>>2467215
They must all be afflicted with some sort of mental retardation. Like it just keeps happening. You would think eventually they would learn…

>>2467223
>The official name for the strike is “Atzeret HaDin,” (Day of Judgment)
No matter the context and I don't think too much is gonna come of this at this stage. But I still vastly prefer Operation Bibirossa.

>>2467223
Israelis always overcompensating with their military op names

al jazeera saying the leaders were struck while discussing a trump peace proposal

>>2467250
Fell for it again award.
When will these retards not understand they are trying to negotiate with the empire that wants them dead? Also fuck russchink alliance for not helping. And dont give me the arab ummah cope. Fuck them. I rather israel genocide them but of course they wont because they are good boys for bibi. Russchinks are such pussies to challege the usa golem. Fucking unreal.

So Israel can just bomb literally fucking anyone at anytime and there will be no consequences.

I fucking hate this world

>>2467261
Cuckmaxxing

>>2467261
The Arabs get gangraped and stabbed and, while bleeding to death on the side of the road, mutter out some citation of International Law. And they've been doing it for over a hundred fucking years.

>>2467223
>Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu left his closed-door legal hearing today for a long recess because of “an exceptional security matter,” according to the Kan public broadcaster.
this mf always does this man it's getting old

is this the nail in the coffin for the zionist project, or at least normalization?

>>2467360
Not them trying to kill the ceasefire negotiators again bruh

Well at least they survived, very embarrassing for the ziocucks

>>2467338
Whoa! They're gonna go to the UN and cite International Law TOGETHER!! WHILE HOLDING HANDS 😳😳😳!!!
This is exactly the development we needed! Israel has just two more weeks!

>>2467297
Yup! It really is like that, no consequences but the ones we impose on them ourselves

>>2467376
>>>/siberia/
Cam you not retard-post here please?

>A leading source told Al-Mayadeen that the Hamas negotiating delegation survived the Israeli assassination attempt in Qatar.

>>2467372
Guys I don't remember, did Israel unilaterally pummeling Iran cause any international trouble? Surely it led to their Dissolution? Le rules based order?

>>2467372
we haven't even seen Peak Zionism yet, they're going to find some false flag Oct 7 2.0 to motivate the already burned out Israeli society for an even bigger round of fighting against Turkey/Syria/Lebanon and maybe even Jordan and Egypt while conducting a terror bombing campaign against Iran

>>2467413
Maybe Lebanon and Syria but only and solely because those are an extremely weak position. Anyone who thinks Israel is going to go away any minute now by launching an invasion of Egypt is just coping for the West losing interest in making a stink about Israel anymore and the Gaza genocide continuing unabated.

>>2467412
alright but the west hates Iran and would gladly support a proxy war between Iran and Israel.

Striking Qatar is a (relatively) unhinged move since Qatar is not some boogeyman "enemy" state but actually has close ties to the west. But you know, this is Israel we're talking about so they'll get away with it probably.

>>2467432
>alright but the west hates Iran and would gladly support a proxy war between Iran and Israel
Most of The West clearly was not happy when it was on the cards. If we mean anerica we should just say america, as its foreign policy more and more out of strp with the rest.

>>2467192
Thank you JDPON Don and Satanyahu for destroying the US empire!

>>2467453
sure, I mean objectively America shouldn't be OK with striking Qatar since it goes against our interests BUT apparently American interests don't fucking matter anymore so yeah Qatar better get used to more strikes and we better suit up for broader regional conflict

Why does everyone think the only response is war? Qatar can respond by closing the USA military base. It would be a huge response.

>>2467499
>Why does everyone think the only response is war?
Nobody. Literally 0 anons are saying this.

>>2467474
America is going to start losing allies in the ME now

>>2467501
Trump is coming off as the biggest cuck we've ever had as a president. A degenerate cuck at that. Too bad most of Americas allies are bigger ones but as they see how ineffectual and stupid American leadership is they'll drift away hopefully

>>2467360
did israel intentionally use something very low powered? why did they let them live?

al jazeera
>Qatari security officer killed in Israeli strikes: Interior Ministry
>Qatar’s Interior Ministry says a member of the country’s security forces was killed and others were injured while responding at the site of the Israeli strikes.

>We have more lines from Al Jazeera’s interview with Suhail al-Hindi, the member of Hamas’s political bureau.
>Al-Hindi said the attempt to kill Khalil al-Hayya and other Hamas leaders who were meeting to discuss Trump’s ceasefire proposal has failed.
>But the attack killed al-Hayya’s son, Humam, and one of his top aides. Contact has also been lost with three other bodyguards, al-Hindi said.

what trump proposal are we talking about? the one about turning gaza into a resort?

location of compound:
25°21'26.1"N 51°30'34.4"E

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Will they start having talks in Ankara? Is this a win for the turks?

>>2467701
Cucktar needs to end its alliance or else it will be forever a cuck state

>>2467499
They should

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>US troops forced to run for cover on live tv

>AnsharAllah (Houtis) missile attack on Israel INTERRUPTS Independence Day ceremony


>Event was marking the US’ 249th birthday in Jerusalem


These colors sometimes run


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trump monkey both claims that he was notified by Israel and that he wasn’t

Lol

>>2468101
just how he claims epstein was a hoax while mike the cuck johnson claims he was an fbi informant. They really do think you are stupid and just need something to cope.

It's truly a sad state of affairs.

is qatar+usa actually mad about what israel did or are they just pretending for kayfabe?

>>2468106
qatar is pissed cuz it challenges their sovereignty and america is pissed cuz trump is sincere in wanting a deal with hamas. israel is subordinate to the US but even they can't stop israel from acting on its own behalf

>>2468114
oh I thought it was more about "oh jeez, whoops, we really wanted to have a deal with you but then our dog got of its leash and bit your face off again"

>>2468105
>They really do think you are stupid and just need something to cope.
you have supporters who thought when trump was palling around with epstein and girls he was doing some 'gandhian' thing to test his resolve. they do hate their supporters but people get suckered into it again and again.

>>2468106
Just pretending of course

>>2468120
the only party involved that doesn't want a deal is israel

>>2467701
>>2468031
And throwing a hand grenade into a police station is resisting arrest.

>Ursula von der Leyen announced in the European Parliament in Strasbourg that all EU financial assistance to Israel has been suspended and that she is planning a partial suspension of the EU-Israel Association Agreement. She also said sanctions are being prepared against "extremist ministers" in the Israeli government.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/09/10/eu-suspends-all-economic-aid-to-israel/

>>2469282
why does a rich country like israel gets eu financial assistance?

in other clown world news

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2zy4l8jgeo

Anti-Islamic US biker gang members run security at deadly Gaza aid sites

The firm guarding sites where aid is distributed in Gaza has been using members of a US biker gang with a history of hostility to Islam to run its armed security, a BBC investigation has found.

BBC News has confirmed the identities of 10 members of the Infidels Motorcycle Club working in Gaza for UG Solutions - a private contractor providing security at Gaza Humanitarian Foundation sites, where hundreds of civilians seeking food have been killed in scenes of chaos and gunfire.

We can reveal that seven members of the gang are in senior positions overseeing sites at the controversial aid operation backed by Israel and US President Donald Trump.

UG Solutions (UGS) defended its employees' qualifications for the job, saying it does not screen people out for "personal hobbies or affiliations unrelated to job performance".

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) said it has "a zero-tolerance policy for any hateful, discriminatory biases or conduct".

Infidels MC was set up by US military veterans of the Iraq war in 2006 and members see themselves as modern Crusaders, using the Crusader cross as their symbol - a reference to the medieval Christians who fought Muslims for control of Jerusalem.

The gang is currently hosting anti-Muslim hate speech on its Facebook page and has previously held a pig roast "in defiance of" the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

The gang's leader, Johnny "Taz" Mulford, is a former sergeant in the US Army who was punished for conspiracy to commit bribery, theft and making false statements to military authorities. He is now the "country team leader" running UG Solutions' contract in Gaza.

We emailed Infidels MC for comment. In response, Mr Mulford instructed fellow leaders of the biker gang not to reply but included the BBC when he clicked "reply all" - inadvertently disclosing email addresses and names of fellow Infidels MC members, some of whom were working in Gaza.

By matching up names with public information about Infidels MC's leadership, and evidence from UG Solutions insiders who worked with them, we have identified 10 members of Infidels MC who Mr Mulford recruited to work with him in Gaza.

UGS told the BBC it conducts comprehensive background checks and only deploys vetted individuals. However, news reports indicate Mr Jarrett was arrested two years ago in the US for drunk driving and has a previous charge of driving under the influence from about a decade earlier. It is not known whether either case resulted in a conviction.

The founder and chief executive of UG Solutions, Jameson Govoni, was arrested earlier this year in North Carolina for his alleged involvement in a hit-and-run incident and for fleeing from police to evade arrest, according to court documents. Mr Govoni, who is based in the US and is not a member of Infidels MC, declined to comment.

Until now Mr Mulford was the only UG Solutions contractor to have been identified as a member of the Infidels. The BBC's investigation reveals how widespread his hiring of members of the biker gang has been, notably to better-paid jobs leading the UGS armed security teams.

Social media posts show that in May, just two weeks before travelling to Gaza, Mr Mulford sought to recruit US military veterans who follow him on Facebook, inviting anyone who "can still shoot, move and communicate" to apply.

In total, at least 40 of about 320 people hired to work for UG Solutions in Gaza were recruited from Infidels MC, according to an estimate by a former contractor.

UG Solutions is paying each contractor $980 (£720) per day including expenses, rising to $1,580 (£1,160) per day for team leaders at GHF's "safe distribution sites", documents seen by the BBC show.

One leader of a team in Gaza overseeing site security, Josh Miller, posted a photo of a group of contractors in Gaza with a banner reading "Make Gaza Great Again".

The banner advertises the logo of a company he owns which sells T-shirts and other clothing, including one which has the slogan "embrace violence" and another which says: "Surf all day, rockets all night. Gaza summer 25."

Mr Miller has the word "Crusader" tattooed across his fingers and "1095" on his thumbs. This is the year when the leader of the Catholic church, Pope Urban II, launched the first crusade, attacking Muslims as a "vile race". Mr Miller did not respond to requests for comment.

A post on the Infidels MC Facebook page selling "1095" hats says it signifies the start of the Crusades, "a military campaign by western European forces to recapture Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim control". The "Holy Land" refers to the area mostly covered by modern-day Israel and the Palestinian territories.

Johnny Mulford, who in addition to leading the gang is listed as the registered agent of a Florida company called Infidels MC, has the date 1095 tattooed across his chest. He has a Crusader cross tattooed on his right forearm and another on his left upper arm along with the word "Infidels".

The Infidels MC website also used to show the skull logo of the violent Marvel comic book character Punisher, a symbol appropriated by white supremacist groups, inscribed with "kafir" in Arabic script - which translates as "unbeliever" (or "infidel").

Scenes of chaos and danger have been common at the aid distribution sites in Gaza since they opened at the end of May. Up to 2 September, 1,135 children, women and men were killed near GHF sites while seeking food, according to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

The UN has said most of the killings appear to have been carried out by Israeli security forces. Incidents where civilians were harmed while seeking aid are "under review by the competent authorities in the IDF", the Israeli military said.

UGS has denied allegations that its security contractors also fired on civilians and that it put people seeking food in danger due to incompetent leadership. However, the company has admitted that warning shots have been used to disperse crowds.

In a statement, UG Solutions, based in North Carolina, said Johnny Mulford is a "trusted and respected figure" with more than 30 years' experience supporting the US and its allies globally. "We stand by his reputation, record, and his contributions to the success of complex missions," the company said.

"We do not screen for personal hobbies or affiliations unrelated to job performance or security standards. Every team member undergoes comprehensive background checks, and only qualified, vetted individuals are deployed on UG Solutions operations," UGS said.

>>2469612
As is often the case, words escape me. The depravity knows no end

>>2469612
these were no doubt the guys who were scream yee haw while firing guns at people recieving aid

>>2469781
Source?

Socialist led initiative petitioning to force out former German foreign minister Annalena Baerbock from being the new UN President, backed by the Spanish and Italian Communist Parties, various Dem-Soc groups, amongst others:
>https://act.progressive.international/baerbock-resign/

So far it has almost 80,000 signatures. It will not succeed in isolation, but the pressure helps to make her position untennable. If a large left block refuses to accept her position, if various states refuse it, etc.
She is a hardcore Zionist who helped protect Netanyahu from being arrested for war crimes and who greatly increased German arms sales to Israel throughout the current phase of the genocide.
If she is UN president she will set the agenda of the organisation for the next few years, and she is going to be very firmly pro-Israel. She could do a lot of real damage to prevent legislation to stop the genocide, apartheid, occupation.

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UN just voted on support for a 2 state solution on the condition that the hostages are freed and that Hamas are not a part of any Palestinian government.
Take note of who opposed the vote. Those are nations who reject a state of Palestine under any conditions, even if Hamas disbanded today.

>>2475948
Who drafted and promoted such a stupid resolution? Hamas is the only government there which is left.

>>2475948
Why didn't Cucktin tell Hungary to vote for what he thinks is correct

>>2475948
this should als obe obvious to any soc dem politician or influencer still pushing the 'two state' solution like bernie or corbyn that the 2 state model isn't inconsistent with imperialism. we already know the corrupt PA just acts as an outsourced regime

>>2471362
This stupid pig became the president of UNGA? What a disgrace to humanity…

>>2469612
Tragedy to those feel. Comedy to those that think.

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>>2471362
>progressive international

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_International

Reads like a CIA cutout tbh. Though it may affect your favs, so I doubt you'll wonder why they are there along the complete liberal and Zionist ghouls under the same umbrella.

>>2476662
That's because it is. Literally every non-communist "international" is just aping communists.

A study published in The Lancet medical journal by Dr. Gideon Polya and Professor Richard Hil on September 3rd. is claiming the current death toll in Gaza is at least 680,000 - with at least 380,000 being children 5-18 and another 100,000 being children below 5.
This is approximately 10x the scale of death reported by the BBC and other mainstream western sources.
I have no clue what the real figures are, but if it is even close to that, surely one day the entire western media and political establishment, or at least the segment of it that pretends to care about laws and human life will surely collapse, no?

>>2477410
I stopped believeing in "collapse" theory. They maintain the plot, any leak will be immediately plugged and memoryholed, dissenters will be fired or silenced. Non MSM dissenters would be ignored. The system will just continue functioning no matter what as long as it is alive.

>>2475948
wtf is wrong with papua??

Spaniards are being based by having disrupted the Vuelta which is the bicycle tour of country and one of the big three races with the Giro and the Tour. It's ending today I think and some cyclists were taken off their bicycles by protestors, they also had to finish multiple races ahead of the finish line cause the protestors were waiting to block it. Lots of Palestinian flags in the bystander crowds as well.

>>2477752
It's basically a cop state for Australian and others foreign mining companies and a huge cuckold for Indonesia with regard to West Papua. They have a cool flag, though.

>>2477752
The entire Pacific island region has a massive and highly influential evangelical christian zionist movement thanks to American missionaries and American influence.

In other news, both Ireland and the Netherlands have said they will refuse to participate in Eurovision 2026 if Israel is allowed to participate.
Iceland, Norway, and Spain are considering taking the same stance but have not done so yet.

>>2477952
It's great to see how acts of grandstanding buy absolution for the EU. Maybe Spain can kick the Israeli cyclists as well and pretend their government hasn't been trading weapons and looking the other way when Israeli weapon ships came and went form their ports.

Maybe they can compare with with Russia being kicked from every other sporting event and claim to be "balanced", maybe they can bothsides this as well.

JFC, the liberal Zios will buy you with peanuts.

>>2478983
> Maybe Spain can kick the Israeli cyclists as well and pretend their government hasn't been trading weapons and looking the other way when Israeli weapon ships came and went form their ports.

I agree with your message but Spain has now banned Israeli ships from their ports.

>>2468033
this guy's a holocaust denier
@1:01:25
>"So, we don't actually have any concrete evidence for the Holocaust."

>>2477774
They just cancelled the last race as the protestors blocked everything haha


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>>2479049
interesting.

>>2479049
also this:
1:01:50
>"the capitalists and communists want to undermine us. and who are the communists and capitalists? the jews."

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Nuke Israel.

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>>2482255
hubba hubba ooo wee mama

>>2482255
mods! this post is in violation of the UK's online safety act

The UN has officially declared that Pissrael is committing a genocide. Call your representatives so your countries won't ignore their legal bindings

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>>2482255
ZAMNNNNN SORRY PALESTINIANS BUT IT'S OVER FOR YOU ANYWAY, LONG LIVE ISREAL

>>2479049
>>2482052
>>2468033
What da site admin doin?

>>2482897
What do you think Israel does to LGBT Palestinians exactly?
Do you think the IDF asks people to see if they're gay before deciding to drop a bomb on them or shoot them?

>>2482250
>Spanish inquisition
Damn bro that's crazy. Where did all those Iberian Jews run to after the reconquista?

>>2482898
Yeah but Hungary is also a vassal state of the RF

>>2482905
probably not aware of it
the guy doesn't like advertise regularly his nazi sympathies

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>>2482897
>Europe should give refugee to Palestinian queers but only queers, the rest can go fuck themselves
Nah you can give them your home and money. The rest can get all of occupied Palestine back

>>2482915
I'm not joking and you're retarded for thinking Russia does not have vassal states

>>2482928
>it's not because international capitalism devours itself and liberalism is eating shit that Hungary turned towards economic nationalism
>it's because they are Russian vassal state
So you're not a comedian, you're a fucktard, histrionic lib, or glowie, or all at once.

>>2482934
Go back to your zigger thread where you can pretend Russia does fuck all to nations closer to it and Ukraine

>>2482937
I am perfectly capable of curb-stomping libs anywhere.

>>2482928
wow you really believe this? what a moron

>>2482939
We'll start with yourself then if you love and have so much trust in Russian capitalism

>>2482897
Welcome back Charlie Kirk. How's your neck?

>>2483089
All AES states support Russia. You're an irrelevant clown nobody gives a fuck about.

>>2483144
imagine NOT celebrating this piece of shit dying

Germany, Italy, and Japan have announced they won't recognise Palestine at the UN summit this month.
Hmmm, if only I could remember something those 3 countries have in common…

>>2483223
You're a liberal zigger

>>2483223
they also enabled the destruction of the USSR, so that's not really a win for you

>>2483300
It's sad that Italy is so cucked

>>2482879
don't worry anon, she's spanish

>>2482906
Yes Israhell murders Palestinians indiscriminately I never said the opposite
But pretending Palestinian queers aren't throw off rooftops by their compatriots is pathetic
The entire region follows a primitive medieval religion to the last letter, pretending Pissrahell is any worse than the theocratic shitholes it borders is absurd
The ultimate victims here are the Palestinian LGBTs who are being targeted for their race by the zionists and for their gender and sexual orientation by the mudslimes, Europe should give refugee to Palestinian queers, but ONLY queers, the others can fuck off and rot for all I care(USER WAS BANNED SAGE AND REPORT ALL BAIT -MANAGMENT)

>>2483948
most palestinians are literally children you nutjob

>>2483948
>>2483955
Moooooods

Watching gore videos from Gaza is making me more politically radical and extreme. I can't stand seeing this stuff but I can't stop watching it either. I am going insane. I hate those Zionist bastards so god damn much. I don't care what Hamas does. Fuck it. If Warsaw rebels killed a few innocent Germans who gives a fuck. Israel and America don't understand the language of peace.

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>>2483948
Woman and Children are the most being and killed and you are worried about a couple of gays? Fuck outta here man.

>>2484033
The men too. Most of them are just trying to stay alive and take care of their families.

>>2484033
Homosexuality is not even illegal in Palestine, sure it's shunned like in most religiously backward places but they don't kill the gays. Israel kills the gays though by, you know, killing everyone.

>>2484033
Why even reply? Just report the zionist freak and it'll be deleted with any luck.

>>2484050
Fair enough.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/judith-butler-letter-uc-berkeley/?

<“We’re in Kafka-land,” observes Judith Butler, the internationally renowned philosopher who for decades has been one of the most prominent members of the University of California, Berkeley, academic community. This month, Butler learned that they were one of 160 faculty members, students, and staffers at the university whose names had been shared with the Trump administration as part of a federal investigation targeting “alleged antisemitic incidents.” A notification from the university provided no details of specific allegations. Butler, who is one of many Jewish scholars sharply critical of the Israeli government’s assault on Gaza, wrote a stirring response. They shared it with The Nation, along with a brief account of their exchange with UC Berkeley’s chief counsel.

>>2483948
>Israhell
Well I have to mention that there's a Palestinian queer musician who made a music video with this theme

Israeli media: 4 soldiers killed and 8 others injured when an explosive device exploded in a Hummer vehicle in Gaza.
Israeli media reported on Thursday that four soldiers were killed and eight others wounded when an explosive device detonated in a Hummer vehicle during the fighting in the Gaza Strip.
Israeli platforms described the incident in Gaza as "very harsh," adding that the area where the explosion occurred "is supposed to be safe for the Israeli army."

In a related development, the Mujahideen Brigades announced Thursday that its fighters had successfully targeted a Merkava tank with a Sa'ir missile, directly hitting it in the Al-Musalaba area of ​​the Al-Zeitoun neighborhood in Gaza.
The resistance continues to confront the occupation forces in the Gaza Strip, killing and wounding its ranks by targeting its soldiers, vehicles, and forces.

>>2484232
Oh thi guy did a track with Hatari when they had the Icelandic Euroviion pick for Israel's last year.

Israeli media: Two Israeli soldiers killed in gunfire on the border with Jordan
The Israeli Ambulance Service announced, on Thursday, the killing of two Israeli soldiers on the Jordanian-occupied Palestinian border.

In detail, the Israeli army radio reported a shooting incident at the Allenby Bridge crossing on the border with Jordan.

An Army Radio correspondent said, "The perpetrator of the operation was a retired Jordanian soldier who was driving a truck and carried out the shooting from point-blank range and the stabbing."

Separately, Israeli media reported Thursday that four soldiers were killed and eight others injured when an explosive device detonated in a Hummer vehicle during the fighting in the Gaza Strip.

Israeli media described the incident in Gaza as "very harsh," adding that the area where the explosion occurred "is supposed to be safe for the Israeli army."

It is noteworthy that in September of last year, a Jordanian truck driver carried out a shooting attack at the Karameh (Allenby) crossing, killing three Israeli soldiers.

Pretty interesting video to see the brainwashing, cognitive dissonance and such of Israeli citizens living in Tel Aviv, nationalism really poisoned their hearts

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creatine supprot for australea

>>2482250
How did Spain get so based post Franco?

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>>2485762
I'm all for exposing Zionazis but where's all the street level interviews exposing Americans as genocidal freaks? Seems all I see on that front is shit like "lol Americans are dumb they can't identify this country on a map." Okay why not ask them their opinions on sending all Mexicans into a concentration camp.

>>2486775
>I'm all for exposing Zionazis but where's all the street level interviews exposing Americans as genocidal freaks?

>>2479049
Woah based

>>2486785
Funny because nowadays the audience gasping in shock probably agree with the interviewees.


>>2486785
>>2486785
Even those redneck boomers aren't as a deranged and evil as the chosenites, curious

>>2487028
>Even the settlers established through time and a completion of their genocide aren't as a deranged and evil as the new settlers still in the process of genocide
retard.

We've reached peak Gretta.

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Qassam Brigades publishes a "farewell photo" of Israeli prisoners and holds Netanyahu and Zamir responsible.
The Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas, published a post on its Telegram channel on Saturday featuring a photo of 46 Israeli prisoners in the Gaza Strip, some alive and some dead, accompanied by the caption: "Because of Netanyahu's intransigence and Zamir's submission, a farewell photo at the start of the operation in Gaza."

Rawan Arad's photo was placed first, and his name was placed under each prisoner's photo, accompanied by a serial number, indicating that the occupation's prisoners in Gaza would face a fate similar to Arad's.

It is noteworthy that Ron Arad was a pilot in the Israeli occupation army. His trace went missing after his plane was shot down during the aggression on southern Lebanon on October 16, 1986. To date, no tangible trace of him has been found.

Two days ago, the Qassam Brigades warned that "the start and expansion of this criminal operation (occupation of Gaza City) means that no prisoner will be returned, neither alive nor dead, and their fate will all be the same as that of Ron Arad."

In this context, Hamas held "war criminal" Netanyahu fully responsible for the lives of his prisoners in the Gaza Strip , in a statement issued following the Israeli Prime Minister's announcement of the start of a ground incursion into Gaza City.

What's the point of recognizing Palestine when it's not going to exist in 6 months? Nothing but a feel-good gesture since they're too scared to at least attempt to sanction Israel and the US

>>2487958
Greta cute

All of you retards have the completely wrong analysis of geopolitics. This war is the direct result of multipolarity and decline of US hegemony. The whole US-Iran "conflict" is kabuki theatre and not really an actual conflict.

The US plays off countries against each in order to create a contentious global scenario where none of its potential competitor can create a true local hegemony.

So Iran is extremely useful to the US to act as a counterweight to Saudi and Israeli local hegemony. Pakistan is useful as a counterweight to Indian local hegemony. North Korea to SK, China to Japan (this was the case in the past), Venezuala to Brazil, Russia to EU etc etc.

This is how US imperialism actually works. All of the US "enemies" exist to prevent the formation of a true capable competitor to US hegemony in that area.

But now that US global hegemony is no longer viable, the US is managing a controlled exit and negotiating with its former "allies" and allowing them to finally exercise more autonomy, not as a charity, but as a necessary bargain for these "allies" to remain in the US camp.

So the exit of the US from the Middle-East means that Iran is no longer useful to the US as an "enemy", and this allows Israel and the Arabs to finally deal with Iran and its proxies. Now the Arabs cant directly do this because of the optics, so they are more than happy to let Israel do the dirty work for them.

We are seeing the true multipolarity and sovereignity that you retards want. Expect a lot more genocides and wars and atrocities in the coming years as the yoke of American imperialism is lifted and countries can finally stretch their limbs without fear. This will initially be violent, but in the long run, it will result in true peace and a much more stable world as all these artificial kabuki theatre conflicts are finally put to rest, in one way or the other.

>>2488658
you're being gr0ss

UK and Portugal will both recognise Palestinian statehood on the 21st of September.
France, Australia, and Canada will recognise Palestinian statehood on the 22nd.
Luxembourg and Malta will recognise it before the end of the this month.
San Marino will recognise it before the end of this year.

Recognition isn't even the bare minimum these states should be doing, but it's still a good thing.
Although realistically speaking, what consequences will it have?

>>2489126
Solidify the occupation further through the PA

>>2489126
I struggle to see how things like these are any better than "two state solution" platitudes while enacting the genocide. Like, no really. Think about it, does the promise of some comprador's funding actual, real and tangible humanitarian efforts towards Palestinians give you hope? No, of course not. You know who, and how will be implementing those and why the funding is payment for their continued relationship with NATO and the costs incurred safeguarding MENA's status quo, and probably more things about it that I don't.

So why on Earth does some nebulous return to the Oslo accords format that doesn't even exist on the ground, It has nothing concrete on it, even move the needle? Something which comes from the same parties who just did the second Nakba, by the way. While literally undoing the previous Oslo accords in the West Bank. The same parties that kicked the UN and made any such promises unenforceable. The same ones still doing a genocide in Gaza with Zionism as their geopolitical tool.

>>2489222 (me)
Recognizing "A Palestinian state" to me is, at best, like recognizing some foreign backed "government in exile". And I say at best because they'd probably make it about the PA. But there are much worse Israeli collaborators waiting their turn. Like all of those currently sacking the aid trucks and extorting the Gazans. Or the rich fucks who want to run their own slave colonies for Israel.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/gazans-are-finished-with-hamas-commander-popular-forces-5d9a6345
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/new-palestinian-offer-peace-israel-hebron-sheikh-emirate-36dd39c3


>>2489126
it will make Israelis and american congressmen very butthurt


>>2488658
Greta onlyfans
add racist black penis
instant $20000 from /pol/
prpofve me wrong *splurt*

Israeli economy not doing so good.

https://archive.ph/bf6N5


>After the International Criminal Court sought to issue an arrest warrant for Netanyahu over war crimes, in May of 2024, he lashed out against its top prosecutor, calling him one of the “great antisemites in modern times.” Drawing again on a sense of grievance, Netanyahu warned in his speech on Monday, “We will increasingly need to adapt to an economy with autarkic characteristics.” This technical term, referring to a closed-off and self-reliant economy, is “the word I most hate,” he went on. “I am a believer in the free market, but we may find ourselves in a situation where our arms industries are blocked.” In a scenario of “Athens and Sparta,” he said, Israel will “have to become Athens and super-Sparta. There’s no choice. In the coming years, at least, we will have to deal with these attempts to isolate us. What’s worked until now will not work from now on.”


>The Tel Aviv stock exchange dipped, and a public uproar began. The opposition leader Yair Lapid called Netanyahu’s speech “crazy.” The Israel Business Forum, which represents two hundred of the country’s largest companies, issued a stern warning: “We are not Sparta.” The real problem, it suggested, was that government policies were leading Israel “toward a political, economic, and social abyss.” Yossi Verter, of the liberal newspaper Haaretz, wrote a column titled “Netanyahu Turns Start-Up Nation Into Sparta Nation—and Indicts Himself Along the Way.” He suggested that Netanyahu’s speech was a misguided attempt to replicate Winston Churchill’s famous evocation of “blood, toil, tears, and sweat.” But, he added, this rhetorical failure was still revelatory: for the first time, Netanyahu had given a “realistic” depiction of Israel’s standing in the world.

>>2489222
>>2489231
If we are to talk about solutions that are for the moment removed from what we can expect, the correct communist position for a definitive end to this has always be and will always is for the working class of Israel and Palestine to rise up and make a "no state solution", not for the bourgeois law of the UN or the imperialist countries of the security council to settle it.
But you know there's no solution if there's no people left, and at this point I think we have to take - critically - literally anything that will create a path forward to the end of the bloodshed, and the recognition of the Palestinian state is that, even though it will lead in the worst case to more occupation, and in the best case leave the Palestinian workers to the mercy of exploiters of their own.

Here's a good article on gaza death toll that analyzes it and its treatment in the context of history and in comparison to other wars. It's from Richard Hil and Gideon Polya, the guy who did the Lancet study

https://arena.org.au/politics-of-counting-gazas-dead/

<When deaths resulting from imposed deprivation (indirect deaths) are factored into mortality data, the total figures will be higher than those from only violent deaths (direct deaths). Eminent epidemiologist Professor Devi Sridhar (chair of Global Health, University of Edinburgh) reported in an article in The Guardian a ‘conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death’. Assuming that deaths from deprivation were four times the violent deaths, then the 136,000 violent deaths after 15.5 months of killing (25 April 2025) would imply 544,000 Gaza deaths from imposed deprivation, and that the total Gazan death toll would accordingly be 136,000 violent deaths plus 544,000 from imposed deprivation, leading to a staggering total of ""680,000"" deaths by 25 April 2025. Most of these victims, as indicated in earlier counts by the Ministry of Health are women and children.

>>2489126
I'm sure strong words and recognition will stop the massacres

>>2489530
Nobody said that. Who are you even arguing with? This was rhetorical, I say that to say, please just fuck off.

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Israeli police arrested Palestinian politician and former member of the Israeli parliament Haneen Zoabi on Sunday.
Police officers detained her at her home in Nazareth in the early hours of Sunday “on suspicion of incitement to terrorism”.
Her attorney, Hassan Jabareen, director of Adalah legal centre, said the arrest lacked any legal basis or substantive justification.

He added that it was carried out for political and media purposes.
According to police, the former member of Israel's parliament, the Knesset, and leader of the Palestinian party Balad was detained in relation to statements she made "during a speech at an anti-Israel conference abroad".
During an event in Vienna in October 2024, Zoabi said: “You can not differentiate between Hamas and the Palestinian people.”

She added that those who entered Israel on 7 October 2023 “entered their own land”.
Jabareen said that as the suspicions relate to a speech delivered more than a year earlier, there was no justification for raiding her home during the arrest.
The circumstances of the arrest and the way police documented it indicate political motives, he added.

Look, if Americans can't put aside their differences for long enough to [redacted] on Friday, then get ready for the next Iraq disaster and a Thousand Year Zioreich.

Imagine we have a time machine. It's called foresight. Every day that the American people don't escalate, every day they settle for protest and petitions which are brutally suppressed anyway, is a day that the movement effectively goes back in time to yell at Hitler and try to shame him for being a war criminal. Not only do we know where this is going, we know where it already is, and we need to stop it. There is no other option. No one in the US/Zionist state gives a fuck if the socialists are nice boys who follow the rules, they will literally just lie and blame you for shit you didn't do, and basing actions (or inaction) upon fear of "repercussions" which are pre-planned and have no causal relation to your actions is irrational. The orgs will not survive such fatal indecision.

how long until the resistance victory becomes decisive?

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>Berg means mountain in German by the way, can't you settle there?

>>2489233
>http://archive.today/ucY4U (https://www.wsj.com/opinion/new-palestinian-offer-peace-israel-hebron-sheikh-emirate-36dd39c3)
why would israel specially as it becomes even more dominated by the religious share let alone give up hebron which contains a religious jew site when they can just expel everyone or kill them
it's always weird when these palestinians cucks come out as if israel has any interest in letting any more palestinians live within its borders

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>>2489682
>palestine was never a real country before ashkenazis started creating a jewish supremacist state there
i agree
i too eagerly wait for the day the united arab republic is established after israel and american imperialism is erased from the face of the earth

Any good news? Is pissrael on its last legs or is everything still terrible?


cuckran status?

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>>2490855
General strike and riots in Italy today because Meloni doesn't want to recognize Palestine
https://apnews.com/article/italy-gaza-israel-strike-rallies-disruptions-ddb543962208f4ec4ac86da38c99b9f1

Israel is attacking the Flotilla.

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>>2493276
and already issuing the usual westerner-oriented statements (don't look what they say about the flotilla in their language). that aid were to land to Ashkelon, the Palestinians won't see one gram of it.

The Kitten of Damascas
https://www.timesofisrael.com/we-are-scared-of-israel-syrias-sharaa-insists-his-country-poses-no-threat/amp/
>‘We are scared of Israel’: Syria’s Sharaa insists his country poses no threat
<Syrian leader accuses Jerusalem of stalling in talks for security arrangement between long-time enemies; US envoy says deal is close but negotiations delayed by Jewish New Year

What is the estimated population in Gaza currently?


>There are deep political divisions and disagreements in Israel. I myself have been a vocal critic of Mr. Netanyahu. But the nation’s core security interests are not partisan property. Today more than ever, they are anchored by a national consensus that is rooted in the hard realities of our region. Opposition to the recognition of Palestinian statehood stands at the heart of that consensus.
-Benny Gantz in the NYT

Italy and Spain are sending a ship each to the Gaza flotilla and Iranian intelligence leaked data about Israel's nuclear program
I think the arrow of history is moving from it's so over to we're back.

>>2494299
Nothing is gonna happen
You seriously are counting on Eurocucks to do something ?

>>2494303
Why not? The Communards were European

>>2494303
Spain maaaaaybe, Sanchez is pretty supportive. Italy not so much, maybe it is a seal to block any explosive pressure cooking pot that is a general strike

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Hell yeah

>>2494348
I am in awe

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>>2489577
Netanyahu's plane is on the way to NYC. The update in this screenshot was posted an hour and 10 minutes ago.

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>>2494352
DPRK is very environment pilled, have been for a while. they're always doing stuff in this area.
I am glad they have become Gretas strongest soldiers.

>>2494396
Agreed. Funny you mention: after high school, I did a year of community college and wrote an essay on environmentalism in the DPRK for English, and the professor gave me 100 and recommended me for honors college. I dropped out though.

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https://globalsumudflotilla.org/tracker/

The live tracker to follow the flotilla

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>>2494413
Sounds real interesting, what was it about specifically? Like, their power generation, or reforestation, or?

>>2494009
Reminder this guy is the liberal Zionists savior. This is the guy the American libs think can save Israel from the evil Netanyahu.

Qassam vs IDF in Tel al-Hawa: Elevated Yassin 105 strike vs IDF Merkava tank in southwestern Gaza City; IDF acknowledged the death of a company commander in the 7th Armored Brigade's 77th Battalion in Tel al-Hawa Monday when his tank was hit by RPG fire.

>>2494438
>Blue and White Israel Resilience Party
>Slogan Israel before everything
>Ideology Liberal Zionism[1][2][better source needed]
You know it's good when even Wikipedia clowns on you.

>>2494437
both of those things iirc

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>>2494429
It's coming bros.

We are gonna get together with all the liberal Zionists and all the EU/NATO powers who enabled the vest majority of the genocide(and will continue backing Israel from here on onwards).Then are gonna do a big great Kumbaya hand by hand together, and defeat Netanyahu by recognizing Palestine! We are so back, the EU social fascists and I.

It's gonna happen you guys! We are gonna win!

And then, we'll be on the right side of history again!!

<Spain Joins Italy in Sending Ship to Protect Gaza-Bound Sumud Flotilla

>The UN special rapporteur for the occupied Palestinian territories implored other countries “to mobilize their fleet to grant the flotilla safe sailing to Gaza, and deploy a real humanitarian convoy to break the blockade.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/flotilla-gaza

(it is all speak though, and his government has been systematically aiding in providing NATO weapons and funding to Israel at first, and then looking the other way after they were forced to maybe pay lip service to Palestine.)

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>>2494714
They need to be careful.

>>2442214
I doubt Spanish and Italian warships are gonna stop the jews, they attacked their """"closest ally""" once trying to false flag it on the Egyptians, what stops them from doing the same here?

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It's finally over for Bibi…

>>2495115
He has an arrest warrant at Spain and Ireland too, is not gonna change anything

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Really?

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BDS movement has accomplished more than Chynah, Ruzzia and every so called anti imperialist or "socialist" nation (but Yemen) in 20 years

>>2495154
he has an arrest warrant from every ICC country normally, but obviously many don't respect that

>>2489577
Reminder for anyone in NYC: Netanyahu is there now and speaks at the UN tomorrow.

I heard Max Blumenthal say that NYC is on lockdown "like [he's] never seen it before." Anyone have pics of what NYC looks like around UN HQ right now?

Breaking news and analysis on day 720 of the Gaza genocide | The Electronic Intifada
Live Now

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Isn’t this big news? A mistake could lead to bigger conflict. Or the flotilla may actually reach Gaza

>>2495913
Fuck Georgia Meloni for doing this

>>2495919
Why? Isn’t it good? I also heard the one who sent the ship was the defense minister Crosetto, not Giorgia

I thought the naval ship was there to block the flotilla and commandeer the aid

>>2495913
anarcho-'communist' simping for Meloni, no surprise here

Piggies retreating in Milan😄

>>2494437
Holy shit, I didn't see the faces at first. Good camo.

>>2495930
>>2495919
I was told meloni had no choice. She is very pro zio, like viktor orban.

>>2496046
Unfathomably based

>>2495913
Apparently several military drones were hovering around it.

“We are civilians on a peaceful humanitarian mission,” Tor Stumo said in an Instagram post made while the attacks were ongoing. “We call on all governments in the surrounding waters to act now to ensure our safety, especially through their coast guards. International protection is urgently needed.”

you think israel will sink the spanish and italian ships escorting the flotilla? i think they could and they would have the support of the EU and USA

>>2495913
It is. Greece and Spain have joined also now.

>>2495927
Not officially. Meloni's statements are ostensibly unrelated.

We'll see. If it's there to protect the flotilla's passage then that's a good thing, and would be in line with the stated aim given when it was ordered to escort.

An important thing is to never hinge anything on EU states keeping their word. Workers of the world need to be prepared to take matters into our own hands.

>>2489577
According to WaPo, "The Pentagon has summoned military officials from around the world for a gathering in Virginia. Even top generals and their staffs don’t know the reason for the meeting."

Netanyahu is in NYC now and meets with Trump at the start of next week. Coincidence?

>>2496221
>We'll see. If it's there to protect the flotilla's passage then that's a good thing, and would be in line with the stated aim given when it was ordered to escort.

It looks like they're trying to get the flotilla to surrender the aid.

https://x.com/davidrkadler/status/1971142857517039950

>URGENT Don’t be fooled by Meloni’s naval deployment: It is nothing but a cynical rouse to demobilize the


@gbsumudflotilla

>— in direct coordination with the State of Israel that attacked us. We will reject this proposal. We will keep sailing. And we will complete our mission.

>>2496229
>>2496229
The fuck is going on…

>>2496229
What if the soldiers disobey and help the flotilla reach Gaza?

>>2496229
This is just his interpretation of the statement Meloni already made. This isn't providing any new information, the order to deploy the vessel and Meloni's comments were made separately. Crosetto was the one who actually ordered the vessel to go out there.

Not offering a rebuttal of this, just clarifying that it's speculation on Adler's part and that the stuff he's looking at is exactly the same stuff we were discussing ITT.

>>2489577
>>2495390
>>2496223
I am once again asking any anons in NYC to give us pics of what the security situation is like. Unless you're doing something cool, in which case keep it hush hush.

>>2495913
>>2495927
>>2496205
>>2496221
best possible mission is to escort the flotilla to the end of international waters then "observe" the interception and arrest by israel to minimize the chance of war crimes and try to smooth things over.

but IDF are monsters who may commit war crimes against the flotilla out of spite. it's not like a european observer vessel would ever actually release footage of israeli atrocities.

>>2496229
waow! surprising nobody european governments are on the side of colonial oppression.

>>2496290
>best possible mission is to escort the flotilla to the end of international waters then "observe" the interception and arrest by israel
That's not the best possible mission tf are you talking about.

>but IDF are monsters who may commit war crimes against the flotilla out of spite.

I mean they already did right before this, yes.

>>2496290
See >>2496280
Adler is literally only offering his own speculative analysis of the same information we were already looking at (and speculating over in the same fashion) ITT.

>>2444603
>That is what I believe the future is for the anti-Zionist cause from this point on. And it might be fought peacefully in courts and through protests both within Israel an internationally, or in the form of another intifada/insurrection, or both.
https://harpers.org/archive/2025/05/after-nonviolence-end-of-peaceful-resistance-west-bank-ben-ehrenreich/

>>2496319
best possible mission given political reality on earth. in lala land they're gonna provide a breakthrough escort against a nuclear armed fascist usian territory.

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What did China mean by selling the biggest pro palestine platform to the fattest zionists

>>2496375
TikTok is a private corporation, not a state corporation

>>2496352
>best possible mission given political reality on earth. in lala land they're gonna provide a breakthrough escort against a nuclear armed fascist usian territory.
Oh yeah, I'm sure Israel will launch its undeclared nuclear arsenal at the Spanish, Italian, etc. boats. I'm sure they'll nuke Italy over this. The US will declare war on Italy because some boats got through. Totally.

I'm not an optimist by any means, but it's moronic to reduce what's ""the best possible outcome"" to more of the same non-confrontational submission. That's not realism, that's a spineless fantasy; it would be better for fighting to break out between "Israel" and European naval vessels than for your thing to happen, and given "Israel's" behavior it's by no means an impossibility that fighting would occur. It's also not impossible that "Israel" just decides to let them through provided that the European Navies are at all sincere. It's not even impossible that a secret EU/"Israel' deal is reached to let the Flotilla through with naval escorts for optics - it would play particularly well to voters in Spain, Italy, and Greece, where it would seem like a big victory even though it would really be pretty minor in the grand scheme of things.

There are worse possibilities, but there are certainly better ones than "hopefully the navies will ensure that they get arrested nicely." Grow a pair and do something about it if that's the best you feel you can hope for.

Meloni was absolutely pressured by the italian population to send the ship, do you think she'll win the next election or will she lose due to her disgustin shilling for zionists?

>>2496392
>the best you feel you can hope for
There is nothing to hope for unless one believes in another round of Oslo agreements after Israel has taken all that it covets, is any real progress.

What, you think NATO just militarily stamped out all of it's rivals in the region and made all the other kiss the ring, and now it's gonna get better? Because PR? I have no idea why you would think anyone remotely in power in the EU isn't a Zionist.

>>2496406
>now it's gonna get better
I never said that.
I am a pessimist. To date it has served me well as far as predictions go. When I talk about the "best possible" outcome, that does not mean the one I think is most likely.

>Because PR?

Because guns, fool.
Because almighty NATO couldn't even handle Ansar Allah. Because the situation in the EU is not going to materially improve should things continue as they've been going, and those who understand this process have the ability to alter the future.
It's really impossible to take anyone seriously who puts on this "woe is me! It is so dire!" act and doesn't face the implications of that direness. If you really understood how bad it was, you would have no excuse for defeatism, but you either don't know how bad it is or you simply want to delude others into not facing the implications of a situation where there is absolutely zero reward for inaction or defeat.

Aim high, plan for the worst, and take initiative to seek the best. If you're just a cheerleader or, worse, a whiner, then you have nothing to offer. This isn't a spectator sport, you should know what team you're playing for by now. If conditions are unacceptable to you then seek change. If you say they are unacceptable to you and all you do is whine and insist that it could never even possibly be better then other people will suspect that you are not sincere in your opposition.

>>2496392
again you're being fucking delusional. the leadership in israel have more to gain from creating conflict and turmoil than southern europe does and israel has infinite leverage through their american patrons. neutral observation is the best realistic scenario for this deployment.

a more realistic mission for the boat is to force a turnaround themselves to avoid direct confrontation between the activists and the IDF.

>>2496427
>again you're being fucking delusional. the leadership in israel have more to gain from creating conflict and turmoil than southern europe does and israel has infinite leverage through their american patrons.
You're being fucking delusional.
Italy's dockworkers are on a massive strike. The Zionism of Europe's leaders is deeply unpopular, and tied to populist workers' movements in both Italy and Greece which can occasionally get very feisty. If this was all strictly down to "Israel's" whims and its "infinite" leverage then there would either be NO naval accompaniment or the naval accompaniment would simply be a ruse; the latter is very possible, but we've gotten past the former as a possibility. I advise that you keep track of events which have already taken place when making your projections about ones which have not yet occurred, it is very useful.

Europe's leaders still have to mind and appease their populace. This is a balancing act which vassal states ordinarily have to do by default. For those who are aware of the threat posed by allowing their own governments, effectively, to get away with genocide, this is correctly identified as an existential problem. This creates an internal political problem for their own governments, which are also largely failing to improve every day quality of life at home, even without the coming expanded wars.

>neutral observation is the best realistic scenario for this deployment.

Only if you think it's realistic that Europe would defy the US/"Israel" to do that at all. Frankly, I disagree. It isn't any more realistic than escorting the flotilla all the way to Gaza. They're both unrealistic scenarios, except, in yours, the naval ships were sent all the way out there to do fuck all except be a liability if the IOF attacks them. That's not ordinarily the implication of sending your navy out somewhere; the European public hates the Zionists, why would EU gov'ts defy the US & "Israel" just to create a situation which satisfies no one where the public could easily get a plausible cause to demand outright intervention and be even more pissed off if it's denied?

If anything, it's more realistic that they would do a full escort mission one time hoping to refuse to ever do it again and get a bunch of political capital out of the stunt. That is a considerably more plausible justification of the risk than half-assing it would be. They're more likely to do something nefarious than to do either of these things, but that doesn't mean I rule these things out as possibilities - even your pointless one which would maximize risk while minimizing reward just to get the exact same result as the last Freedom Flotilla mission which was first attacked off Malta and later had its crew abducted by the IOF.

>>2495390
>>2496281
I had to do it myself:
https://x.com/replyperson/status/1971267046420906371
"This is what midtown Manhattan around Netanyahu’s hotel look like. This is what the NYPD and Mayor care about: protecting a war criminal when there are people without homes living on the street a block away. This ain’t #americafirst for those keeping track."

https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1971420850332090731
"BREAKING: NYPD is mass arresting protesters outside Netanyahu’s hotel, accusing them of “making unreasonable noise.” What’s truly unreasonable is Netanyahu murdering over 680,000 Palestinians. Our noise is resistance. Our noise is justice. New York is on our side and the cars passing by are honking for Palestine and not letting Netanyahu sleep tonight."

>>2496466
you're acting like these governments and vessels aren't constantly contacting each other. even the iranians were on the phone deconflicting while dropping rockets on idf targets in the middle of tel aviv and into US bases.

performative escort and observation is exactly the kind of do nothing dual appeasement strategy that appeals to zionist eurocuck governments.

>>2496375
Don't blame China for your own fucking law dude. And it's not Trump that did it. Biden is the one who forced the sale and made it illegal for Tiktok to operate in the US. Trump just kept delaying implementation.

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> "The White House's post-war Gaza plan includes forming an Arab-led security force.

>The White House plan also includes Tony Blair, former Labour Prime Minister of the UK, taking the position of temporary governor of Gaza. Tony Blair will oversee a body known as the International Transitional Authority in Gaza," - The Wall Street Journal.

>>2496375
>>2496488
Maybe they could have refused to offer service in the US instead of turning a 1 billion users social media plarform to Israel and supporting genocide? Just spitballing there, but I'm sure there was nothing the state or the communist party could do, the capitalists must be in charge.

>>2496576
You know, in your country, they are. You don't live in China man. You are in the USA and what social media apps you are legally allowed to use are determined by your government in the USA and not the one in China.

Biden banned it, if I recall, to tremendous aplomb. He was banning a CCP spying app that was also cringe. Maybe you should have said something then, or actually address your anger towards the people in your country who made this situation come about, instead of pointless blame shifting onto China, which itself is more than a little ironic, given that it was omnipresent sinophobia that ended up with the Democrats handing over one of the largest platforms in the country to one of their most powerful political opponents in the first place.

>>2496640
Stop deflecting I'm not in the US, clearly the burgers and the chinoids shook hands over this, ByteDance offered their algorithm on a silver plate to the state deparment and the IDF and with it a platform that serves not only the amerilards but almost 2 billions users, most of which live in the third world. "B-b-but Biden" don't care, did they give tiktok to fucking modi when he banned it in India? No

>>2496576
The sell is only about Tiktok US branch, nah?

Live from NYC right now.

Wtf is happening, man

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>Real Nazi hates zionism like shit now

>>2496825
how the fuck does Blair have any authority to head anything in Gaza lmao

>>2496914
He's rich and powerful. That's all that matters. Maybe he's blackmailed someone or is being blackmailed.

>>2496914
He's been the jews favourite goy since the Iraq war

Is anything gonna come out of this or the UN walk out when NetanyaHHu was speaking?
Don't want to get my hoes up but it looks like Israel is on its last legs.

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>King Blair IV in Gaza,(colorized)

>>2497402
Why is SSpain being kinda based all of a sudden?

>>2497444
All of the mediterranean nations should send military vessels to escort the flotilla, it's shameful that Turkey didn't do anything

>>2497444
Spain had massive protests that pressured the government

>Palestine state officially submits BRICS membership request.

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People who stayed during SatanyaHHu's speech:

Boats are so fucking slow i keep thinking the tracker is broken.
Glacial.
They should only announce this stuff on the home stretch.

>>2497519
Hungarians and Czechs are ghoulish racists who cheer on the extermination of levantine arabs, they literally have a neocrusader mentality

In fact, the terrorist colonials of Haganah and Stern established the zionist regime with Czech aid and weaponry

>>2497519
@grok fucking kill yourself

>>2497551
Miss the Fascist who killed the most Europeans in history, caused a global war, attempted to destroy socialism, unions, and workers rights, and would've put me in a death camp?
No, oddly enough. Zionism isn't Judaism and you have to be intellectually retarded (ie a Nazi) to fail at grasping this.
Not to mention Nazis is thoroughly idealistic, illogical, emotional, and anti-scientific.

>>2497546
>In fact, the terrorist colonials of Haganah and Stern established the zionist regime with Czech aid and weaponry
weren't they just following soviet policy

>>2497551
Why would I miss a zionist asset?

>>2497551
Bitch ass artsy guy killed himself lmao
the wimp couldnt take the heat

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>>2497551
We'll do it again.

>>2497551
Nah, not in the slightest. I do miss this guy on the other hand though.

>>2497551
i only miss that i was not able to spread my seed into adolf hitler's ass

>>2497569
In fact, he may be the first person to have ever received a fecal transplant: he had gut bacteria estracted from an incredibly healthy SS soldier injected into his own intestine via enema.

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>>2497551

>>2497402
>Don't want to get my hoes up but it looks like Israel is on its last legs.
Don't get your hopes up.
Stop looking for excuses to do nothing. Organize, arm. Earn your hopes. Prepare for the worst.

With the purchase of TikTok, CBS, Paramount, etc. Zionist institutional power is only expanding. The US is about to go to war with Iran for Zionist goals. The consolidation of domestic control within the US in preparation for this is fully in motion. It's about to get way, way worse. Stop acting like a spectator.

>>2497512
Is this true?

>>2489682
> one of your ancestors was called the Egyptian because he came from there or had some association with the neighboring country to palestine
>my ancestors hans jabotinski von polisherborn is indigenous to the middle east and I deserve thebland

Per BreakThrough News:
TODAY: Colombian President Gustavo Petro joined thousands outside the UN during Netanyahu’s speech, protesting for an arms embargo on Israel.

President Petro told the crowd he is calling for a powerful international army to stop the Gaza genocide and urged the world to move from words to action.

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>From the river to the sea, let’s make Manhattan UN-free!

>>2497627
Full speech auto-dubbed.

>>2497644
Actually, turn off auto-dubbing, this dub is dodgy. He's got a translator right next to him.

>>2497444
>Why is SSpain being kinda based all of a sudden?
The Spanish government has been looking the other way, while arm shipments used their ports on the way to Israel and the MIC kept trading and investing in Israel. They denied it, then got exposed by contrasting logs outside their direct control and said they'll "look into it" and did nothing, multiple times. They lied about the magnitude AND nature of contracts the MoD had with Israel linked enterprises. They did this all while, despite what you may have heard in propaganda, being servile losers for NATO, worshipping the Ukraine war and doing all the domestic propaganda for the cold war. Though they are significantly more chill than average in words, not deeds.

However, the president is knee deep in corruption scandals and lawfare. Their government has gone years without being able to pass a budget or many other things through congress, which is not as catastrophic as in the US but still. And more importantly, their coalition is breaking down, facing calls for impeachment from the right, very close in numbers. While Pedro's own ruling coalition breaks down into opportunism and hinges on keeping on the good side of right wing Catalonian nationalists currently weaponizing independence sentiment and "forcing" the socdems to pass autonomy reforms (anti-migrant and nationalist) as a bribe.

So, as with other Zionist governments, Spain is taking this opportunity not just to wash their hands off the genocide. But also to import the USAno culture war though this topic and hopefully get their politics bailed out by the culture war a few more years.

Until the various fascists movements , what we are building, are ready to either take over a or become enough of a threat on the people to rekindle trust in socdems.

>>2497519
I never understood why hungary is so gay for israel. Like what the fuck?

>>2497691
They're not """gay for israel""" they're just a ghoulish racist psychopathic society that enjoys seein brown arab people suffering

>>2497444
Pressure from the population
Italy is run by a ᴉuᴉlossnW on skirts and had to send warships to aid the flotilla and denounce Israel at the UN

The politics of the likes of Czech Rep and Hungary reflect on their population's stance

>>2497644
The US just revoked Petro's visa over this.

>>2496651
They didn't shake hands. The US just straight up banned and stole the app. The Chinese government just doesn't care that much about Tiktok. It's not a deflection this out… Really, you're just being weird as fuck and blaming China for what is, in fact, flagrant hostility to China by the US.

In any case, you're wrong. The US part of the app is ringfenced. The US group only control the US version of the app and algorithm.

>>2497736
>In any case, you're wrong. The US part of the app is ringfenced. The US group only control the US version of the app and algorithm.

Oracle gets the brand (in the US), userbase, and US user data. They only get a licensed version of the Bytedance algorithm, and this affects US users only. By law, Bytedance can have nothing to do with it and vice versa. Global (non-US) versions of Tiktok remain under ByteDance.

So no "chinoids" didn't give the US a handshake deal. The US just stole the app in the US.

>>2497627
>President Petro told the crowd he is calling for a powerful international army to stop the Gaza genocide and urged the world to move from words to action.

Donald Trump revoked the visa of the Colombian president after he asked for there to be a UN vote on whether the armies of the nations of the world should go to war to liberate Palestine from Israeli control.

>>2498236
>>2497708
Dangerously based. And to think Colombia was basically a stronghold of reaction since colonial times…

>>2442214
Petro urged a global coalition to liberate and protect Gaza, will this be a nothingburguer?

>>2498301
Petro was only elected because even though colombian voters dislike leftism he is a legit genius and his opponent was a retarded trump lite people hated. I don't think he will be reelected sadly as there has been a constant barrage of libel and dinsinformation from the mostly right wing owned media.

>>2498339
(Also he promised to leave the spot to someone else to prove he's not Maduro who even colombian leftists hate)

>>2498326
Yes. None of the surrounding countries would let that happen.

>>2498356
What do you mean?

>>2498372
Jordan and Egypt love Israel. Why would they let some South American country intervene near their borders for the sake of the Palestinians who they have zero regard for?

>>2498377
They really don't love Israel, they're just too cowardly to oppose Israel.

>>2498326
No. He called for US troops to disobey Trump's orders. The US revoked his visa over it.

You have to look at all of this keeping in mind that the US/"Israel" will be going back into an unpopular (in the US) suicidal war against Iran within days to weeks. In this context, Petro's speech is significant; or, more importantly, Colombia's stance, which Petro's speech represented, bears the potential to be significant provided that people act. Things are rapidly getting much worse, and this makes "business as usual" much less viable; the US is behaving insanely even by US standards. In this climate, the likelihood of dissidence and intervention increases. If you look at Venezuela, Haiti, Russia, China, etc., it's obvious that US aggression is not aimed at just one or two countries, and so solidarity becomes much more imperative and the need for it becomes more widely understood than it might otherwise be.

But basically, none of this absolves you from acting at all. Look for what you can do. The things he said are true in their necessity, and you can help to manifest them in practice. The war is coming, and you can help to win it.

>>2497747
>US borrows from China
>to give to "Israel"
>US steals from China
>to give to Zionist oligarchs
Is this the most embarrassing national collapse in history?

>>2498408
Even if they loved "Israel" then that just makes them Zionist forces. Was anybody ever like "No! You can't fight Germany! Quisling loves Germany, Norway would never allow it!"?
I mean, honestly, somebody probably said that at some point, but whoever said it was fucking stupid and didn't understand war.

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"President Petro warns that he will request help from China if the bombing of Gaza continues."

Petro also said: "No one will forgive this for generations. The United Nations will be finished if they continue down this path. If they block it in the Security Council, it will be voted on in the General Assembly."

However, the president went further in his speech: "And what is being voted on is no longer a request, but the formation of an army for the salvation of humanity . And if I have to tell China to provide the detachments, I am asking them to do so because they cannot afford to do so for one more day, and because the armies of Europe have surrendered to Hitler, and because the United States Army is surrendering to Hitler."

"Those who were once the great alliance are now kneeling, and then it's up to the rest of humanity, which is the majority, to respond, and they respond not just with letters. The rules are written," Petro emphasized.
https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1971894733103366366

>>2498473
>but whoever said it was fucking stupid and didn't understand war.
I phrased this ungenerously - whoever said it would most likely have said it in bad faith.

>>2498477
Based, but this uygha getting couped if he keeps it up.

>>2498473
Petro literally called for a global crusade against the zionist state at the UN

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>>2498477
China will do nothing and loose

>Australian Doctor In Gaza: It’s 100,000 Times Worse Than The Videos

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>>2499456
What is the source of this claim

>>2499462
catladies4america

>>2499462
madeitthefuckup.jpg


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>>2499599
Bruh… Pamphlets is a shitposting account lead by 15 year old South American MLs. It's not an actual news source.

>>2499636
I don't follow Pamphlets, I follow catladies4america, which is a reputable source.


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>>2496823
Netanyahu is currently still at the Loews Regency hotel in NYC. Just an update. For cool dudes.

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>>2499456
big if true

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!!!

When will Trump meet Netanyahu today?
A much-anticipated meeting between Trump and Netanyahu will begin at 11am local time (15:00 GMT) today, according to a White House itinerary.

After bilateral talks, Trump will host Netanyahu for lunch in the White House before the two leaders’ joint news conference at 1:15pm (17:15 GMT), according to the schedule.

The meeting comes as Trump hopes to finalise a plan to end the Gaza war.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/9/29/live-israel-keeps-pummeling-gaza-ahead-of-trump-netanyahu-meeting

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1972560213179068481
BREAKING:

🇺🇸 More then 8 US aerial tankers departed the US towards Europe, with most already arriving in the UK.

The last time this happened was when Israel and the US attacked Iran.

>>2500769
it all makes sense. The repressive legislation agaisnt the left. the military on the streets. the assasination of kirk, clearing out dead wood who cant be replyed upon to stay on message. the strange meeting where Peter hegseth rambled on about warfighter culture for 2 hours. al jolani visiting the US the feint operations in venezuela.

I don't understand why some Arabs are still negotiating with the US. Multiple times now the US has used negotiations simply to facilitate assassinations, and these Arabs are still wanting a 'fell for it again' award.

>Israeli President Isaac Herzog declared on Monday that he was considering a pardon for PM Benjamin Netanyahu, tried for bribery, fraud and breach of trust, according to Haaretz, citing an interview given to Army Radio, the IDF's radio.

>"The Netanyahu cases are weighing heavily on the system: they are fastidious and cumbersome. […] If people ask me to grant [Netanyahu] a pardon, I will consider it."

>>2500825
he can't keep getting away with it

>Video documents the moment Palestinian physician Dr. Marwan Abedin was shot in the head by an Israeli quadcopter through the window while on duty at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, southern Gaza.
Those Israelis are some sick puppies.

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Unpopular opinion:

All these people grandstanding for and in the flotilla would be 1000% more effective at helping Palestinians putting a fraction of that bravery and effort into lobbying or boycotting their own EU/NATO governments to act against Israel.

I can't help but see them as perhaps well intentioned, but ultimately willing participants in a liberal Zionist campaign to launder Europe's libleft from their responsibility for the genocide.

And also helping to rally support for the coming arrangements that NATO will impose on Palestinians under the guise of "defeating" the more Kahanist vision of Netanyahu's government and "ending" the genocide (which is already done). Then "restoring" an even more Zionist dominated worse status quo for Palestine.

>>2501094
Nah the point is to dare the IOF into strafing them. Also Zionism is way too ingrained in the ruling classes of Europe and North America, trying to lobby the government is useless they can just say no and not suffer materially. At least with the flotilla either it makes it or Israel looks worse to white people by killing a shitload of unarmed white people on a mission to feed the starving.

>>2501098
White people tend to shrug their shoulders when other whites are killed by a State. If killed by a random non-white it becomes global news with lots lf shitting and farting.

>>2501094
They are/were also doing that, there is no silver bullet, all tactics are good. The EU wanted to sanction Israel btw but ziggers in charge of Hungary somehow vetoed that.
>libleft
Ah you're a political compass retard

>>2500891
That's so fucked. i'm entirely unsurprised. :(

>>2501094
NA and EU chauvinists just need a show to keep them entertained. Do not dare ask them to oppose their fascist governments.

Turkey has send naval ships to aid the flotilla.
Supposedly only to help fix a broken boat but god willing they could also join Spain and Italy as official escorts to guarantee the flotilla's security.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1972663867970077053

>>2501271
Cool demoralizing wrecker hasbara but all the western government who recognized Palestine, left the UN meeting, made a show or tried to pass sanctions on Israel, send aid and money to UNRWA etc did so largely because they were pressured by the constant protests and disruptions made by the working class of these countries organizing in solidarity with the palestinian people.

>>2501271
NA and EU "chauvinists" have been at the forefront of the pro-Palestine movement in the form of strikes, protests and aid for Gaza. What has the -ACKsis of Resistance done to stop the genocide?
Russia? Too busy dealing with the Ukraine quagmire.
China? Still happily trading with Israel.
Iran? Immediately folded after a couple of impotent bombings.
The Arab brotherhood? Safe for a couple of protests in Egypt and Jordan, they're all in the pockets of Zionists and couldn't care less about what happens to their Muslim brothers.
The fucking president of Colombia has done way more on his own to denounce Zionism than 99% of the so-called anti-imperialists countries.
The global south and third worldism is a joke. Embrace Marxism and international proletarian solidarity.

>>2501218
>The EU wanted to sanction Israel btw but ziggers in charge of Hungary somehow vetoed that.
There's a huge connection between Russia aligned governments/orgs and Zionism that most ziggas like to pretend doesn't exist.
Yet more evidence of just how wrong and contradictory the third-worldist/multipolarista view of geopolitics is.

Here's your EU chauvinists bro.
Point to me a single sanction or embargo Russia and China have put on against Israel, I'll wait.

>>2501374
China at least made the entire Zionist media sphere tremble once they realized the power of TikTok. But Beijing cucked out on the deal recently, and to top it off the Israelis are now grouping Qatar and China together as the new evil duo lmao.

>>2501380
>china at least made the entire Zionist media sphere tremble once they realized the power of TikTok
What a small thing to put your hope in a country

>>2501374
Extremely based. Honestly I think and I really hope China may opportunistically follow suit once enough governments take action against the genocide, it will be their moment to take the lead from the US in the UN kinda like Petro envisions. It will be interesting to see the dengoids who are saying palestinians must die for multipolarity do a 180

>>2501340
>Iran? Immediately folded after a couple of impotent bombings.
Lol

The US had to bail "Israel" out and war on Iran is about to restart. People in "Israel" were arrested for even publishing footage of the damage from Iranian retaliation.

>Safe for a couple of protests in Egypt and Jordan,

Yemen shut down the port of Eilat. They hit another ship today. There really isn't any economic intervention anyone else has done thus far which compares to what Yemen has done, Yemen has wrecked an entire "Israeli" shipping route.

For that matter, Hezbollah cleared out most of the settlers from the north of "Israel," they got hit hard but they still inflicted way more material damage than what you're talking about.

If the stuff the EU was doing compared at all, "Israel"/the US would be bombing them. Frankly, I don't even rule out that eventually happening.

>>2500822
Speaking of which, world's least convincing smokescreen just dropped in DC.

THREAD THEME

"We didn't know,” said the Burgomeister
“About the camps on the edge of town
It was Hitler and his crew
That tore the German nation down
We saw the cattle cars it's true
And maybe they carried a Jew or two
They woke us up as they rattled through
But what did you expect me to do”

“We didn't know at all
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know”

“We didn't know,” said the congregation
Singing a hymn in their church of white
“The press was full of lies about us
Preacher told us we were right
The outside agitators came
They burned some churches and put the blame
On decent southern people's name
To set our coloured people aflame
And maybe some of our boys got hot
And a couple of uyghurs and reds got shot
They should have stayed where they belong
And preacher would've told us if we'd done wrong”
We didn't know at all
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know

“We didn't know,” said the puzzled voter
Watching the President on TV
“I guess we've got to drop those bombs
If we're gonna keep South Asia free
The President's such a peaceful man
I guess he's got some kind of plan
They say we're torturing prisoners of war
But I don't believe that stuff no more
Torturing prisoners is a communist game
And you can bet they're doing the same
I wish this war was over and through
But what do you expect me to do”

We didn't know at all
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know

>>2501374
Spanish and Moroccan warships should make a joint to block the strait of Gibraltar for any ship going to Israel

>>2501318
Meloni already chickened out

>>2501411
Israel will 100% bomb Spain eventually

>>2501627
I think Morroco is zion gang since Israel recognized occidental sahara as their clay

>>2501636
The cuck king doesn't represent the will of the people there, Moroccans could 100% apply pressure on their government

>>2497704
>>2497691
Much of Hungary's privatization drive was executed by the successor party of the old ruling communist party which used communist nostalgy to win votes and then didn't do anything to change course. They also held on for a very long time despite lying straight in the faces of their supporters, which led to farcical moments like when a bunch of their banker members were forced to sing the internationale on a party conference (and you can hear one of them saying "man this sucks").

The old communist party was probably the most - there is no better way to say this - Jewish communist party in the Eastern Bloc. They were extremely wary of an another uprising like in 1956, which was in many ways a Jewish pogrom, and in part caused by the previous popularity of the fascist Arrow-Cross Party that was the only opposition force against the Horthy regime, enjoying considerable working class support. Bourgeois historians love to bring up the fact that after Hungary's defeat much of the support base of the MDP were former Arrow-Cross members (while whitewashing Horthy's reactionary politics and German collaboration).

These two factors pushed almost all opposition to privatization and Western integration to the far-right. For them MSZ(M)P's betrayal of the working class and kolkhoz-peasants was easily interpreted through the lens of anti-semitism. The leader of one far-right and openly neo-nazi party's leader that was imprisoned after a gunfight with police (under Orbán) even made up a theory according to which the real national socialist ideology came to be upheld by communist regimes and ghoulash communism was actually not that bad because it was done by "patriotic Jews", not "Zionist Jews" (tbf this was rejected by much of the far-right). As you can see their anti-semitism was combined with the pro-Palestine sentiments of the Western left, in large part because most Hungarian Jews are almost exclusively Zionist and this was a clever way to troll them.

For Fidesz, which came to dominate the right because of their extreme opportunism (ironically the party in its first years held anti-clerical views, claimed to be liberal and Orbán himself was able to study in the West in the last years of communism because of OSF grants), philosemitism and Zionism was their way of legitimizing their hard anti-communist/Horthyist historiography against the anti-fascist/soft anti-communist historiography of MSZP/liberals while differentiating themselves from the far-right that was becoming increasingly anti-Western while viewing privatization (that was partially done) by former communist officials as the continuation of "foreign communist oppression". The latter narrative is also utilized by Fidesz, but rarely in a genuine way.

The current incarnation of the Hungarian far-right as a parliamentary party, Our Homeland is looking to gain seats based on their recent local election results and considering the continued failures of Fidesz and the continued slavish pro-EU liberalism of every other opposition party. Their support will probably remain at relatively low levels, but I think they will continue growing. They still hold pro-Palestine views despite how most of the European far-right has been psyoped into supporting Israel that is one of the main causes of Middle Eastern immigration.

>>2501618
wouldn't be hard to update this to the present situation

>>2501636
they've been buddy-buddy with israel ever since they invaded the western sahara

>>2501618
"We didn't know,” said the western liberal
“About the dead at Gaza's food lines
It was Bibi and his crew
That tore the Jewish nation down
We saw the starving kids it's true
And maybe their mothers and fathers too
We shook our heads when we saw the news
But what did you expect me to do?”

“We didn't know at all
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know”

“We didn't know,” said the congregation
Chanting a piyyuṭ in their synagogue
“The press was full of lies about us
Rabbi told us we were right
The outside agitators came
They burned synagogues and put the blame
On decent Jewish people's name
To set our Arab people aflame
And maybe some of our boys got hot
And a couple of pallies and reds got shot
They should have stayed where they belong
And rabbi would've told us if we'd done wrong”

We didn't know at all
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know

“We didn't know,” said the puzzled voter
Watching the President on TV
“I guess we've got to drop those bombs
To make the Middle East West and free
The President's such a peaceful man
I guess he's got some kind of plan
They say they're torturing prisoners of war
But I don't believe that stuff no more
Torturing prisoners is an Islamist game
And you can bet they're doing the same
I wish this war was over and through
But what do you expect me to do?”

We didn't know at all
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame
What could we do
It was a terrible shame
But we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know

>>2501670
💎💎💎

So how bout that 20 point peace plan. You know what they say: More Points, More Peace.

>>2500825
Blatantly lawless fake country

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In the future Global USSR that will be created by the successful World Maoist PPW that will happen after the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict (including the Zionist Genocide of Gaza) will be ended with the overthrow of the Fascist Zionist State, and the subsequent creation of a Jewish SSR inside the 1967 borders with 1:1 Land swaps (very similar to the two Maps in the second image I posted, though ignore the disgusting Zionist propaganda that was unfortunately put in the captions, 😂🤣🤢🤮!), with the West Bank and Gaza placed in the Arab SFSR that will include all of the Arab majority regions of West Asia and North Africa as shown in my Map of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR, and the 1:1 Land swaps between the Jewish SSR and Arab SFSR will mean that Arab villages in the “triangle” region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_(Israel) on the Jewish side of the 1967 borders will be exchanged for Jewish Settlements on the Arab side of the 1967 borders that are inside the “Seam Zone” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seam_Zone , so most Arabs and Jews that are in the “population transfer”, will not have to leave their homes, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

What is the consensus on the plan? Will Hamas accept or no?

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>>2501886
It's a sham intended to appease/distract western audiences who don't look into it just long enough for the US/"Israel" to launch major attacks on Iran and continue the genocide in Palestine. It's a total distraction, it's not serious, and it was played up specifically to heighten the potential for deception. When Netanyahu lands back in "Israel," attacks will ramp up, and the US will join him in more war.

With that said, here are some notable news clippings from the ticker so far:

PIJ chief considers Trump’s Gaza plan ‘recipe to blow up region’
The leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group Ziad al-Nakhala has said he considered the US announcement on Gaza a “recipe to blow up the region”.

Gazans say Trump’s peace plan a ‘farce’
Residents of Gaza have expressed scepticism over the latest plan by Trump, dismissing it as a farce that would fail to end the war.

“It’s clear that this plan is unrealistic,” 39-year-old Ibrahim Joudeh told the AFP news agency from his shelter in al-Mawasi on the coast in southern Gaza.

“It’s drafted with conditions that the US and Israel know Hamas will never accept. For us, that means the war and the suffering will continue.”

Abu Mazen Nassar, 52, was equally pessimistic and feared that the plan aimed to trick Palestinian factions into releasing hostages held in Gaza with no peace in return.

“This is all manipulation. What does it mean to hand over all the prisoners without official guarantees to end the war?” asked Nassar, who was displaced from his home in northern Gaza to central Gaza’s Deir el-Balah.

“We as a people will not accept this farce,” he said, adding: “Whatever Hamas decides now about the deal, it’s too late.”

Tony Blair welcomes Trump’s Gaza proposal
Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, who used to be an international envoy for the Middle East and was named by Trump as a member of his “board of peace” for Gaza, has expressed enthusiasm for the proposal.

Blair claimed that the plan brings immediate relief to Gaza and the opportunity for a brighter and better future for its people, while ensuring Israel’s security and the release of all captives, according to a statement.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/9/29/live-israel-keeps-pummeling-gaza-ahead-of-trump-netanyahu-meeting

>>2498477
>>2497644

AFP: Colombia manufactures its first rifles to replace Israeli weapons:

Colombian officials said Monday the country has produced its first combat rifle, a cheaper, lighter weapon aimed at replacing the arms that were once supplied its former military ally Israel.

State-owned weapons manufacturer Indumil produced the arms – the first combat rifle manufactured in Colombia – to replace the Galil, a rifle that had been assembled in Colombia using Israeli components since the 1990s.

The goal is to manufacture 400,000 lighter and cheaper rifles in five years and "gradually replace current weapons in the armed forces," Indumil manager and retired Colonel Javier Carmago told AFP.

President Petro also halted purchases of arms from the United States, after President Donald Trump removed Colombia from his list of allies in the fight against drugs.

How long until Trump presses the REX-84 button?

>>2501418
Yeah, it's laughable at this point.
The US has been using negotiations as operations, either to blow smoke over covert plans or to get targets where they want them for decapitation, and we have these humiliation fetishists in the Middle East and Russia who are constitutionally unable to learn a damn thing.

>>2501827
What do my fellow Comrades think of the Two-State Solution for the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict that will be implemented in the future Global USSR, 🤔?

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>>2501886
Hehe Stacy, he fell for the bait. He still thinks that this is about Hamas' ostensible obstinance; he doesn't realize it was always an infinitely unfalsifiable high bar which can be scapegoated as an excuse to continue the extermination of the Palestinians, he doesn't realize that Hamas may as well be a ghost, a boogeyman, that nothing they ever do could be enough to satisfy the j*wish demand for capitulation, short of self-genocide.

Is something about to go down in Iran again? Hearing chatter from OSINT cunts that the US just sent a shit load of air refuel tankers to the middle east. The snapback sanctions are also due to reapply soon, so the zionists might be planning on using them as a casus belli to hit whatever's left of the Iranian nuclear program.

>>2501922
First off, yes; the US/"Israel" are about to attack Iran again. The US Secretary of Defense/War Peter Hegseth is scheduled to meet in Virginia with basically all the top ranking US military officials today, and Netanyahu is returning to "Israel."

Secondly, this has nothing to do with "the Iranian nuclear program." That's "Iraqi WMDs" - it's fake, complete bunk, purely a pretext to destroy the Iranian state in the same way (and for the same reason) that the US/"Israel" destroyed the Iraqi, Syrian, and Libyan states. During the last exchange, "Israel" targeted hospitals, universities, a TV station, politicians, oil assets, military officials, and civilian centers in urban Tehran while pumping out regime change propaganda - meanwhile, while all that was going on, Rafael Grossi, head of the IAEA (an organization which was being used to spy on Iran's research facilities for "Israel") went on a public ass-covering tour where he walked back the implications of the IAEA vote which had been used as a pretext for the attacks on Iran, and in which a conspicuously large number of the IAEA's board members abstained.

Picrel is a timeline of Netanyahu's claims about Iran's nuclear capabilities. Not only is this a bullshit pretext, it has been a bullshit pretext for 33 years straight.

>>2501945
And before anyone asks, when I say it's fake, I'm talking about the pretext itself - Iran has nuclear power, but Iran had nuclear power before the western puppet shah was even deposed. It's about hegemony and the destruction of the Iranian state, anything else is a convenient excuse to fool western dupes and appease anyone gullible enough to believe it.

>>2501900
no sorry after these events there has to be a single state and de-zionisation just like there was with nazism (in the eastern democratic republic, because we all know they were given a slap on the wrist, took off their hitlerite uniforms and put on suits to run the federal republik)


>>2501959
Germans are a single people, thats why it could be done
Jews and Muslims will never leave peacefully as equal citizens. In the past, cohabitation only happened when one is relegated to second class citizen by the other.
These two semitic tribes are a pain in the arse, a two state solution is the only viable one.


>>2501991
>the present state of things is how it's always been
another anfem banger

>>2502009
anfem is right

>>2501900
based King Lear is correct again. You gotta work on that massive BBC Soviet Republic in Africa though.

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By the way, NATO/EU including Spain has folded with both their left and right big parties backing Trump's final solution for Gaza. There, you got your (liberal) Zionists at work. How surprising that the genociders back the implementation of the genocide eh?

I'm saving my most bitter bile for the great Kumbaya of the flotilla that will put a bow on all this and redeem all the genociders. Just you see how cynical it's going to get.

https://www.antena3.com/noticias/espana/pedro-sanchez-acoge-plan-paz-trump-gaza-hay-que-poner-punto-final-tanto-sufrimiento_2025093068db757116355c411db6c56e.html

There, have your "pragmatic" half-measures.
You liberal Zionist backing retards never learn.

>>2501922
Yeah, could be. Aerial activity having a similar signature to that preceding the attack on Iran earlier in the year.
Which means more decap strikes from Israel, more targeting of strategic infrastructure, etc., as Iran retaliates by not taking out a single Israeli official, leaving Dimona and the desalination plants alone, hitting empty barracks, and alerting the US of some planned attacks. Imagine my unimpressed face :-/

>>2502347 (me)
What losers

>MUH PR DAMAGE

>MUH DIPLUHMACY
>MUH INTERNOOOOOTUIONAL PRESSSURE
>MUH BDS
>MUH MOOOOOOOOOVING THE NEEDLE
>MUH POOOBLIC OPINION
>MUH RADICALIZASHUN
>MUH RECOOOOOOGNIZING
>MUH ISOOOOOOOLATION

I guess when all you have is vibes and media, all you get is vibes and media.

>>2501827
>>2501900
Without the continued presence of the zionist entity there wouldn't be any ethnic jewish majority in the region, completely negating any reason to have particular Jewish SSR in a Future global USSR. You should get rip of it in your mapmaking project

Im scared that all the US planes rushing to the Middle East isn't for Iran, but for nuking Nuseirat if Hamas don't accept the deal

>>2502347
Luckily for you, Israel will either sabotage this deal during negotiations, or instantly violate the terms on day 1

>— 🇮🇹/🇹🇳/🇵🇸/🇮🇱 NEW: Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni urges the 'Sumud' flotilla vessels to stop sailing; withdraws the Italian naval assets that were escorting them.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/24102

>>2502347
>muh trump peace plan
Don't care JIDF, I will keep protesting against your genocidal state

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>>2502603
Something nefarious is always the winning bet.

>>2501271
what are the 2bn muslims doing?

>>2502362
Accurate.

Everything that has happened so far and every bad thing that will happen from now on - including the insane totalitarian domestic trends in the UK & increasingly the US - is the fault of western organizers who categorically refused to utilize the human momentum which existed towards the level of sustained, severe action necessary to cause fear among genocide collaborators. It is currently a more frightening prospect, for the powers that be & their sycophants, to be blacklisted for opposing genocide than to face a public who are angry that you're participating in genocide. This status quo represents an absolute failure by western workers.

>>2502354
>as Iran retaliates by not taking out a single Israeli official, leaving Dimona and the desalination plants alone, hitting empty barracks, and alerting the US of some planned attacks.
This is an unlikely course of events.
Iran has responded more heavily every time, and there are always underestimations like this of how they'll respond the next time. They're unlikely to softball the next retaliation at all.

>>2501365
Most of the global "far right" is actually astroturfed Israeli assets, Meloni, Millei, Le Pen, Orban, etc.

>>2502603
What a cuck i wonder how they got to her

>>2502675
the retards are Allahu-akbaring, what else?

>>2502689
Would be negligible if they didn't have this huge backing from capitalists making them able to push their constant psyops tbh. Right wingers are historically good at getting that because they are grifters and opportunists without equal and their ideology basically revolves around hating the underclass. They took russian money and paid lips to euroscepticism which made them seem patriotic and now they get some shekels and a free pass at beating upon arabs by making a show of defending the jews

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>>2502677
there was also heavy IDF censorship. the IDF military censor department which can censor any information that it deems harmful to national security. they made a statement promising they wont misuse their powers (lmao) but people were arrested for even showing the location of missile strikes. i think that they were scared to a degree otherwise they would be parading all the damage from the missles to play the victim card, instead of hushing it all up.

>>2501991
Jews and Muslims enjoyed Equal rights during the Spanish caliphate.

>>2502677
Placing this much hope on iRAN is equally as naive and delusional as trusting the Western governments to help Palestine. Time and time again they've been showed to be "China's final warning" tier levels of talking big shit and threatening total destruction but they always chicken out at the last minute.

They're going to fucking kill everyone in the flotilla and claim they were KKKHAMASS agents all along. Anyone who questions this new Official™ narrative will be sent to a CIA blacksite in El Salvador.

>>2502823
How convenient.
Imagine the chutzpah. I hope nobody buys this bullshit. It's a fake account that is only followed by ziobots so fingers crossed.

>>2502833
Here's an official source with the bullshit claims. Sorry for not posting a Nitter link but idk how it works.
https://x.com/IsraelMFA/status/1972938224281465339

>>2502867
Still I hope nobody buys this.

>>2502823
this just makes Greta look cooler

>>2502823
>iRAN
lol

>>2502823
Probably they won't, but the israelis are playing the brinksmanship game to make the flotilla yield and flee. If they don't they may be able arrest everyone like on the Madleen but bigger. If the flotilla people have the guts to swarm and run the blockade then maybe, scratch that, probably they'll open fire. Either the international outrage or the aid reaching the palestinians can be small victories.

Huge if true

>>2502823
That would be catastrophic for Israel's public image. You might as well invade the Middle east and establish the Greater Israel reich after that.

>>2502891
They're committing a genocide on live TV and no country is doing shit to stop it. Do you think anyone would suddenly start sending their fleet to bomb tel aviv if they killed a bunch of innocents? Tough shit, they've been doing this since 1947.

>>2502899
Agreed. Only impotent rage will follow. Nobody wants to attack israel because of murica.

>>2502885
based spagets

>>2502899
No silver bullet, the EU and other countries are already working on sanctionning Israel because of all the protests and work done. A spectacular massacre of people of many nationalities in an aid convoy will precipitates more economic and political pressure on Israel because normies are retarded nationalists who care way more when some random fuck dies if they're from their country.

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https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1973099308246532490
The USS Gerald R. Ford, the largest US Navy aircraft carrier, is now set to cross the Strait of Gibraltar into the Mediterranean.

It leads a carrier strike group that includes:
· USS Normandy (CG-60) — a Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser
· USS Ramage (DDG-61), USS McFaul (DDG-74), USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116) — Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers
· Air Wing 8, with F/A-18 Super Hornets, E-2D Hawkeyes, EA-18G Growlers, and MH-60 helicopters

>>2502722
Yep.

>>2502812
A few things.

1. I don't place hope in anyone. Hope is for weak fools who don't take initiative. There is no hope because WE have not created it. Western orgs have failed, and we need to face that failure and stop failing. I am a pessimist through and through, I am not a cheerleader or a spectator.
2. See >>2501411
Iran did a great deal of damage, the extent of the damage was heavily censored by the IOF (so much so that we have been getting new footage months after the fact), and the underestimation of what Iran was capable of beforehand was used by Zionists to drum up support for a stupid war which they couldn't sustain. "We can totally take Iran, it won't be a disaster, and no one has anything to worry about!" will be the line used to sell renewed US involvement because that's basically the only propaganda the US/"Israel" can utilize now, directed internally at its own MIC.
3. And if you think Iran isn't doing enough, if you write as a westerner, then do it better. I welcome it - we should be doing more damage to the state organs of the genocidal project than Iran has done.

>>2502919
oh please of please let Spain say "no you can't pass through our waters" and shoot it if they try to

>>2502900
Actually, they don't even need to wage an actual war: break off any economic ties; make it hard if not impossible for israeli to get visas; make it hard if not impossible to visit israel; no participation in international festivals or sports (this is one is very easy since they don't have a culture whatsover); ban on imports and other sanctions.
Let them starve.

>>2502923
>oh please of please let Spain say "no you can't pass through our waters" and shoot it if they try to
Gibraltar is British for that reason though

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>>2502919
AmeriKKKa and Pissrahell are going to fucking spitroast the flotilla and nobody is going to do anything to stop it

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>>2501991
Based Analysis Comrade Radfem Anon, the “One-State Solution” is Bourgeois Liberal Individualist Idealism, and the Material Reality is that both Hamas and the PFLP have accepted the Two-State solution on the 1967 borders with 1:1 land swaps, and the only people who want a “One-State Solution” are either the Zionists who want to Genocide all of the Palestinian Arabs and annex the West Bank and Gaza into the Zionist State, and the Dumb Liberal Idealist Western Left that are Delusional enough to actually believe that Jews and Arabs can happily live together in some Kumbaya Hippie Commune, as I am not afraid to drop a Truth Nuke and say that since the Zionist Frankenberger did the Holocaust and forced the entire Jewish population to flee Europe, the “Two-State Solution” has been the only viable solution to the Zionist-Palestinian conflict and Stalin was right to support the 1947 partition, and it is not his fault that the Jews and Arabs chimped out on each other, with the Zionists using this as an excuse to carry out the Genocidal Naqba, and my version of the “Two-State Solution” at >>2501827 that will be implemented in the future Global USSR, is based on the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

NATO will not allow anything which contests their MENA hegemony. So you can waffle about the implementations all you want. There is a single path for ANY solution and that's the dismantling of Israel as a Zionist state and consequently kicking NATO out.

At the end of the day, the approach for one or two states passes through NATO losing the cold war and is basically the same until the very end. Unless of course one means the Zionist " two state solution" which doesn't exit and will never exist but faces no pushback because it's the label to describe Zionist supremacy. That one is the only easy option.

>>2503014
They're pretty far though, depends how many knots a carrier group can reach and if the flotilla hauls ass

>>2503014
They might even try to false flag to pretend that the flotilla is secretly carrying weapons

https://x.com/SuppressedNws1/status/1973174503174971907
BREAKING: Crew members of the Global Sumud Flotilla have received an emergency alert after an Israeli navy ship was detected near the flotilla.

>>2503161
Live stream active NOW

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>>2503170
Let's go

Novara have put their stream up. They have a crewmember on board.

>>2503183
crewmember on now, apparently they're assuming their interception positions, might be nothing, might be something. The're expecting interception within the next few+ hours, potentially. unidentified boots spotted.

>>2503183
>>2503192
Speaking now: Mariana Mortágua

>>2503208
false alarm


>>2502677
>Iran has responded more heavily every time, and there are always underestimations like this of how they'll respond the next time. They're unlikely to softball the next retaliation at all.
I hope you're right obviously, because I don't want to watch another fireworks display while Israel is taking out leadership, nuclear scientists, etc. and we sit around cheering when evacuated buildings and empty barracks are hit. Decapitation strikes have become my litmus test for whether a country is fighting earnestly or engaging in back-room deals.

>>2502677
If Iran retaliates too hard the US is at war with iran

>>2503213
No risk right now, apparently the israeli ship fucked off.
One of the ships (spanish, italian, turkish) is probably in contact with the flotilla, for this information. I cannot imagine how else they're getting it.

>>2503271
>If Iran retaliates too hard the US is at war with iran
The US is already at war with Iran.

>>2503282
Strange.

>>2503282
The Italian ship abandoned the flotilla - it would be Spanish and Greek if the flotilla is accompanied. It's unclear to me what exactly the Turkish drones (?) are or were doing.

>>2503291
There any chance the Iranians might launch a pre emptive strike? Or they gonna get goomba'd by Israeli jets for several days like they did in the first war?

So let me get this straight… Israel has taken out Iranian leadership, Yemeni leadership, Hezbollah leadership, Hamas leadership… and not one of these states can touch a freckle on Bibi's scalp even though they get endless gameplays and have to succeed only once?
Bullshit kabuki.

>>2503321 (me)
>states
or I should say entities

>>2503294
>Iran
>preemptive
good one, anon :)

>>2503294
>>2503327 (me)
But seriously, no. Iran has a very reactive approach to conflict (much like Russia, which after showing some initiative in 2022 has been doing nothing but soft touches and reactive moves).

>>2503294
IIRC Iran's de-escalation, when they had Israel basically on the ropes, came from BRICS, mainly China telling them further conflict with NATO would mess with the oil trade and *China* would not like that. China does have apparently a few key bottlenecks where oil shipments could be crippled and Iran is one of them.

After the new Oslo and Abraham accords are signed , the MENA compradors re-affirmed their loyalty and Venezuela is properly disciplined (or blockaded), NATO will be in a more favorable position to engage with Iran more seriously. Fucking over BRICS, without having it too hard for themselves over trade.

Flotilla currently being raided?

I know it’s become a Zio talking point that this flotilla is just a publicity stunt but when I see Greta’s pics I sometimes I get the feeling there’s truth to it. The kind of truth Zio shits inflate for propaganda reasons. Still.. it does seem there’s a bit of social media narcissism to her behavior. Maybe I’m just too fucking cynical?

>>2503373
yes youre a cynical asshole. either actual aid makes its way to people who need it, or israel is even more obviously a genocidal state - obvious this time hopefully to some liberal retards

>>2503373
>Maybe I’m just too fucking cynical?
Yes. Just ask yourself what does it hurt? If someone else is trying to solve the same problem as you, and you don't agree with their method, but you ask yourself, "what can it hurt?" and the answer is nothing? That's a reason to not feel negative about it without fear. You can be certain that something won't work and wish them all the best on your hope that you are wrong and their method does work, and even if it doesn't, it won't hurt anything.

>>2503376
Liberal retards who support Israel will never stop supporting Israel. Zionists could nuke Gaza and those faggots would still shill Israel. The rest of the public maybe, but die hard liberals are the moral equivalent of Nazis.

>>2503377
I’m not opposed to it. This has no hope of aid. It’s just a political stunt to draw awareness to the genocide. It’s a suicide mission and it’s inspiring to see that people can still die for something. But, I do think all the selfies show there is an arrogant side to some people there. I think activist types tend to be attention whores.

>>2503379
>I’m not opposed to it. This has no hope of aid. It’s just a political stunt to draw awareness to the genocide. It’s a suicide mission and it’s inspiring to see that people can still die for something. But, I do think all the selfies show there is an arrogant side to some people there. I think activist types tend to be attention whores.
I already addressed everything so I don't know what I can do but repeat myself. I didn't use the word oppose.
>>2503377
>That's a reason to not feel negative about it without fear.
What would your "opposition" mean anyways? How could you meaningfully oppose it?

I don’t think the goal is to work. The goal is to die. That’s the only way. Israel massacres them and then its all over for Israel. The last straw. No way they can carry enough aid or establish a line of communication to get aid flowing. Israel is going to kill these people. And that’s the only way to get the world to do anything.

>>2503385
>I don’t think the goal is to work. The goal is to die. That’s the only way. Israel massacres them and then its all over for Israel. The last straw. No way they can carry enough aid or establish a line of communication to get aid flowing. Israel is going to kill these people. And that’s the only way to get the world to do anything.
Dekusional.

At worst some boats and their irrelevant people will get damaged. Then liberal Zios and the EU will have reason to make lofty statements and "defeat" Netanyahu by basically signing on to Oslo 3(not-quite-final-yet solution edition) and handing off Gaza to some less known NATO ghoul, rather than Trump and Blair. Then medals for everybody and another triumph for western values and hooman roights and the right side of history.

Why is the pope demanding Hamas accept the surrender "ceasesfire"?

>>2503385
>>2503437
The Zionist entity will only be defeated once it becomes completely indefensible and its biggest defenders can no longer support it. By surrendering now, the Palestinian resistance is spitting on the graves of the martyrs, not just those who were martyred in the past two years but the millions of Palestinians who have been martyred by the Zionist entity and its allies since 1948. Why allow their deaths to be in vain?

Hamas will cuck out. I feel it in my bones

>>2503335
There's an idea that pops up every so often, and it reeks of being overly simplistic, yet I've never heard what's wrong with it: China and Russia threaten to arm Iran with nuclear weapons if the US keeps arming Taiwan and Ukraine.

>>2503674
It would be expensive, globally unpopular and they hate nuclear proliferation as much as the US.

IDF SENIOR TO ISRAELI MEDIA : ISRAEL IS PREPARING FOR AN ESCALATION WITH IRAN, INCLUDING STRIKES IF NECESSARY
Looks like we're gonna have to dust off the ol' Israel/Iran /general/ again

>>2503688
Red, Blue, Purple, Black Flags of Fury/Revenge raised and metric tonnes pf auraposting and vibeposting for a few fireworks.

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>>2503689
HAYDAR
HAYDAR

How are things on the flotilla? Anything noteworthy happening?

>>2503379
You’re wrong. The point is to break the blockade on Gaza which has been in place for two decades, well before the last two years. In 2010, famously, Israel massacred the Turkish ship intending to break the siege. The idea that it’s just to raise publicity or awareness is, yes, complete hasbara horseshit. Israel kills the people who do this because they are protecting their illegal siege on Gaza and if a flotilla makes it through it weakens the blockade.

>⚠️ Breaking: We've been informed by the Greek and Spanish naval vessels they will also drop off escort duty in the coming hours.

https://t.me/humansofgsf/72

>>2503918
Holy fucking CUCKery if true. I take back every positive thing I said about SSpain.
KILL ALL MANOLOS
LONG LIVE THE ETA

>>2503213
Looks like they're close to an israeli blockade/interception coming.
Livestream playing here:
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/LGBTA

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>>2503688
>Looks like we're gonna have to dust off the ol' Israel/Iran /general/ again
Greatttt. I for one am looking forward to the next round of

>>> decapitation, nuclear sites

<<< empty barracks, 'strategic restraint'

:/

>>2504065
i'm looking forward to endless reems of 'le nothing ever happens!!!!!' spam.

>>2504097
Bibi status?

So, is Hamas going to sell out their country to international capital?

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>>2504178
Evergreen reminder

>>2503688
How many reporting this?

>>2503686
Globally unpopular?
We should have a new poll.

>>2503918
Any additional sources for this? Or like a screenshot from the TG?

>>2503785
Bingo.

>>2504178
No.
There is no offer. It was a smokescreen for western audiences laundered by complicit regimes.

Colombia has expelled all Israeli officials, embassy staff, etc from their country, and cut off all diplomatic arrangements and trade deals with Israel.

>>2504758
Nicaragua, cut ties with them as well back in Oct 24th of last year.

hamas folded
israel and trump won
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10/03/world/hamas-hostages-israel-gaza/hamas-hostage-release-gaza-trump

Hamas said on Friday night that it had agreed to release all of the Israeli hostages held in Gaza as well as the bodies of those who had died, in response to the peace proposal introduced by President Trump earlier this week.

In a statement posted online on Friday night, the armed group said it would release the hostages “according to the exchange formula contained in President Trump’s proposal, and as the field conditions for the exchange are met.”

“In this context, the movement affirms its readiness to immediately enter into negotiations through the mediators to discuss these details,” the group added.

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>>2507655
why are there bearded dancing ladies in this?


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