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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-city-officially-famine-says-global-hunger-monitor-2025-08-22/

>UNITED NATIONS, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Gaza City and surrounding areas are officially suffering from famine, and it will likely spread, a global hunger monitor determined on Friday, an assessment that will escalate pressure on Israel to allow more aid into the Palestinian enclave.


<It was the first time the IPC has recorded famine outside of Africa, and the global group predicted that famine conditions would spread to the central and southern areas of Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis by the end of next month.



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β€’ https://electronicintifada.net
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Regional news from an anti-imperialist perspective

β€’ https://www.btselem.org/Isrsaeli
Premier Human Rights org

β€’ https://www.972mag.com/
Left news and opinion webzine from Tel-Aviv

β€’ https://decolonizepalestine.com/
A collection of resources for organizers and anyone who wants to learn more about Palestine

β€’ https://www.normanfinkelstein.com/blogs/
Known anti-zionist academic Norman Finkelstein's blog

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>I guess Alex Jones is in the files (transsexual variety: those who know about the trans porn scandal know)

https://xcancel.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1958769699933888780#m

Can Hamas still win?

Or are we changing the definition of what a β€œvictory” in Palestine looks like?

>>2442297
Hamas has already dealt a massive blow to Israel and drawn them into a precarious position. The full extent of this is being covered up by Israel so it's hard to say just how bad it is. One could argue by extension they've weakened western hegemony by putting on display the complicity in genocide and raising domestic discontent. Now when western powers copy Israel's playbook people are going to be much wiser to what's going on and it won't be as effective. Hamas was never in a position for a conventional military victory, only to resist the occupation. That they have managed to precipitate a change "public opinion" (i.e. the ideological conditions of the international working class) is in itself a huge win and something that nobody saw coming. Hamas fights for the world even if the world (mostly) abandons Palestine.

The results of the struggle won't be fully clear until it becomes history and we can look back on it in hindsight. There's not that much point in trying to forecast the outcome of the fighting in Gaza or the wider geopolitical implications.

>>2442297
Can you won against imperialism without nuking Washington?

>>2442324
So basically, the more Palestinians being killed the more Hamas wins. Got it.

Does Hamas have a β€œday after” plan for when Israel collapses?

>>2442297
Whether or not this was calculated on their part, they have baited Israel into showing it's true colors as a genocidal settler-colonial ethnostate. This has essentially nuked public opinion of Israel in the West. I would consider that a victory considering the Palestinian struggle had been all but swept under the rug prior to Oct 7th.

>>2442381
What’s Hamas’ day-after plan?

>>2442383
It seems very clear they are willing to relinquish control over Gaza if it means the newfound support for the Palestinian cause results in the formation of a true independent Palestinian state. They have said as much multiple times.

>>2442360
>>2442383
There's no "day after" you hasbara bot.
Collapses don't happen over night. If/when Israel loses their ability to continue the fight, the "front" can be pushed inward as more territory is reclaimed by militant Palestinians. There's also active discontent among the military officials because they understand that the politics of the war are causing them to incur unnecessary losses. A coup is not off the table.

>Kill scores of children
>Closely associate with the most hated administration in recent US history
>Attack popular ecelebs because they're doing "antisemitism" by saying Palestinian kids shouldn't be starved to death
>Not reining in vulgar genocidal oafs like Smotrich
>Openly protect a nonce from prosecution by letting him flee to Israel
>Epstein's possible ties to Israel
Result:
<Europeans turning against Israel
<No more talk of further Israel-Arab state normalization
<Actual honest to god antisemitism rising everywhere
<Literal "Jews did 9/11" and Protocol posting being tolerated and growing on reddit, xitter and other places
<US Zoomers most anti-zionist anti-Israel generation in history
Zionists are fucked aren't they? The de facto annexation of Gaza also makes a one-state solution more likely.
How long until Israel has it's South Africa moment? I'm betting before 2050.
>>2442392
Hamas winning the war on the battlefield is delusional at this point. It makes more sense to argue the annexation of Gaza, whilst a defeat for Hamas, is paradoxically a "victory" for the Palestinian and anti-Zionist cause, because it unravels the careful demographic balance in Israel, which was one of the reasons why Sharon ordered disengagement from Gaza twenty years ago. When there were growing calls for emancipation and citizenship by people living in the strip.

Their attempt at forcing other countries to take on Gazan refugees and thus ethnically cleanse the strip has failed.
And by turning their backs on a two state solution, there will now be demands for a one state solution, both within Israel/the occupied territories and internationally. Which will end the Zionist project (Israel as a Jewish ethnostate) forever.

>>2442512
>Zionists are fucked aren't they?

Maybe it's copium, but I don't think they'll be able to fully annex Gaza before they end up totally isolated.

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lol

I'm honestly surprised Israel hasn't been deporting the wb Palestinians to Gaza.

>>2442381
>US Denny's employees are now anti-israel
WOW. This is a riveting success. The loss of the one and only area of Palestine with an organized resistance is actually based now.

Dutch government just collapsed because PM wanted to introduce a bill to sanction Israel and his coalition didn't back him.

>>2443148
Is crazy how Spain is the most pro Palestinian state in Europe, I thought they liked seeing le """moors""" die and suffer

>>2443041
Public opinion of Israel is very important considering without public support in the west they'd have close to no allies, in a region where many people hate their guts and want to see them wiped out and destroyed. Same problem South Africa had basically.
People also underestimate (probably because much of the userbase here is relatively young) how for 20 years, 60% of people had a positive view of Israel.
I remember the early "War on Terror" when criticizing Israel at all was almost unthinkable, and was fundamentally anti-western, pro-terrorist, and an attitude associated only with fundamentalists, nazis, lunatic conspiracy theorists, and extremely fringe communists/anarchist "freaks".

>>2443178
Spaniards are surprisingly not ghoulish racists like much of the continent. I'd say it has a lot to do with modern Spain explicitly not being a nation state. The history of multiculturalism and Islam in Spain in general, both medieval and modern times. The Spanish Civil War, and the Franco Regime being hostile to Israel for much of its existence.

>>2443178
It's because they are one of the only governments in the EU that are still socdem-demsoc and the Spanish demsocs have ties to the Latin American Bolivarianists.

(Forgot to post link to the Gallup Polls)
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/gallup-polls-on-american-sympathy-toward-israel-and-the-arabs-palestinians
Basically public opinion of Israel has been majority positive for over 25 years, until recently.
But I'd go further, and argue that what's happening now is public opinion turning explicitly negative, and pro-Palestinian. Which is different from the pre-2000 (Second Intifada & 9/11) era altogether. When support for the Palestinian cause hovered around 1% at times.
Multiple US members of congress accusing Israel of genocide? Completely unthinkable in previous decades.

Everything is documented and shown on live TV where were you when jews of all people commit ethnic cleansing?

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For a few days now in the imageboards there are pics being posted like these. My JIDF detector is off the charts.

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I'll be honest, the whole 'Israel has been crushed/going to collapse' shit feels as unrealistic as China collapse cope, right now.

>>2443709
It definitely is. I really don't know how anybody could possibly spinning the last two years as a defeat for Israel.

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>>2443709
Even in the best case, they can live is to fight another day, have a moment of peace and build a strong fighting force, but that hasn't happened, it's a slaughter and all their neighbours are scared shitless

>>2443709
Yeah. Unless their economy goes to shit, nothing will happen. Pissrael is still allowed to freely trade with everyone. No one but Yemen gives a shit about unlimited genocide and rape on children.

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>>2442512
>Actual honest to god antisemitism rising everywhere
>Zionists are fucked aren't they?
The problem with this is that it reinforces among Israelis that Zionism is the answer to their situation compared to the alternatives. It's like "the world is a hostile, hardball, fucked-up place" so Jews need an army and "here's where we draw a line in the sand." The premise that Israel doubling down llike this will work against them operates on the assumption that the Jews there are fragile and won't be able to fight forever or at least not as long as their enemies. But if that's not true then you end up with a disaster that doesn't lead anywhere.

>The de facto annexation of Gaza also makes a one-state solution more likely.

>How long until Israel has it's South Africa moment? I'm betting before 2050.
I'm not placing bets but I think something like this is possible. But what I think it might look like, is starting to look at who is actually doing the labor in Israel on the ground. Like, who's picking the crops, building the apartments, emptying bedpans, and guarding shopping malls (yes, there are Arab security guards working these jobs in Israel). There are Arab neighborhoods and cities in Israel, within the pre-'67 borders. The Galilee might be majority Arab. I've read anecdotal stories about a phenomenon that's similar to "white flight" in the U.S. where Jews uncomfortable living around so many Arabs have packed up their shit and moved closer to central Israel. (Even stories of frightened Jewish kids not wanting to go to the pool because the Arab kids are rowdy!) Real-life stuff like this involving ordinary people is often neglected because it's boring and doesn't seem important, but maybe it's very important.

There's also apparently class stratification among the Arabs there with a local political hegemony of Arab Christians, and the Israelis are encouraging Christian Arabs to identify (some do) as "Arameans" and to serve in the army. It looks to me like an attempt to fashion another loyal Druze-like minority who don't see themselves as Arabs. Or at least not like Arab Muslims. They even got a Greek Orthodox priest to act as an agent for this project.

Whatever happens, I think socializing people into a killbot factory the government calls the "Israel Defense Forces" is very important for Israel. The army is not just a machine for killing people, it's also the machinery for mass socialization of Jews (most of whom were arriving from other places) into "Israelis." And also select minorities like the Druze, and Arab Christians (although I know less about the extent of this). The army seems to bind them together more than other institutions. They have a problem with ultra-Orthodox Jews not wanting to serve, but more than 70% of the adult Jewish population has served at some point in their lifetime. It's a mass-reservist model and also contributes to the army looking kind of like a big (if well-armed) militia.

When Israel goes to war, it mobilizes a lot of people who remain in the reserves until their early 40s. Imagine you are in your 20s/30s and most of your peers have served in the army and are in the reserves, and have to go on duty for up to a combined 54 days per year until they age out. That's during "normal" times. And their parents/grandparents were the same unless they were middle-aged Russians when they arrived.

I haven't quite figured it out, but I think there are strengths and weaknesses to this model. One of the strengths is that the army is not as removed from the civilian population as many armies are. It practically is the civilian population. This is not a colonial army in its structure even if it engages in colonial-style occupations. Predictions that Israel wouldn't fight after the Al-Aqsa Flood raid were incorrect because the civilian population and the army united and locked up tight. This was very bad. You want to heighten the gap between the army and the civilian population. The Israeli government being unpopular with Israelis also doesn't necessarily translate over to the army. The army as an institution might predate the government as an institution (in a sense).

On the other hand, this army isn't inexhaustible. Also the fact that they have to draw so many civilians away from their jobs to do war has an effect throughout the society. Businesses can't find workers, or they shut down because the guy who *owns* the business has to go off to war. The shared "division of labor" between couples breaks down because one has been called up when he used to drop the kids off at school, and now the other partner has to do that in addition to their other duties. But they will fight if they feel the stakes are exisential. However, if they do not feel it is, then there will be a collapse in morale. From some Israeli reports I've seen, it does appear that Israelis are feeling more and more exhausted.

There's no clear end goal in Gaza. The political conditions for Israeli victory are: return the hostages and destroy Hamas. There are around 20 hostages still alive. But it's not clear how they destroy Hamas if Hamas' goal is to simply survive, and they can do that by blending in with the civilian population. Israel in turn wages war on Gaza's civilian population. The consequences are horrendous. At same time, I'm not sure how many Israelis are thinking today that Hamas poses a threat to Israel, because again, Hamas are now just trying to survive. So what's the point of calling up tens of thousands of reservists AGAIN and invading Gaza City? (Answer: get the hostages.) But then why not make a ceasefire deal to return the hostages? (Because Hamas, in a sense, wins.)

>>2443714
People often give the fell for it again award to MAGAtards but that's not accurate because MAGA voters were retards to begin with and there was no tricking involved. It's dem voters who are award winners for the fell for it again award. Remember those articles calling Joe Biden the reincarnation of FDR? Crazy shit.

>>2443818
>because MAGA voters were retards to begin with and there was no tricking involved.
Yeah there was. All those latinos and blacks voting for Trump.

>>2443874
What makes you think they were tricked? Trump was very open about
A) Deporting latinos and
B) Shitting on African countries


>>2443178
>>2443202
don't forget slovenia

If East Timor can win its independence and decolonization I don’t see why Palestinians can’t.

>>2443816
> But it's not clear how they destroy Hamas if Hamas' goal is to simply survive, and they can do that by blending in with the civilian population.
"Hamas" will be whatever next resistance movement arises. There is no way for Hamas to surrender or cease to exist in a manner that would satisfy Israel. They want to expel al Palestinians and expand Israel. Part of the issue with the army is that as you say it's a powerful binding experience, but in a special Israeli way. Because sure, the psychos whose job is to be a deathsquad or to form and pocket criminal organizations or to go and do the most horrible things imaginable are usually a select few in western armies. At least those officially designed to the task.

But in the Israeli army the genocidal violence, the supremacist colonial abuses are everyday bonding. Everyone is the squad that bonds by their "secret" gang rapes, everyone is the squad that bonds over their ritual cruelty. Everyone is the squad that bonds over being sadistic psychos. It's just that this duality is inherent ot being an Israeli and presenting Zionism to everyone outside their very limited world of world hegemon backed anachronistic colonialism.

Israel has all the reason to stop now that the UNRWA is gone, once thy clich the last of the credible guerrilla efforts. Once that's done, in a couple of generations, the Palestinians within Israel and the occupied territories will have even less of an identity than those abroad. New generations will not be employed by the UNRWA, they will not be educated by the UNRWA and their curriculums will be full hasbara. Israel is gonna be doing to surrounding Arabs what the Nazis only dreamed of doing with the Generalplan Ost.

And they need to, they need everyone to go through the army and come out a pedophile,rapist,murderer, supremacist psycho who can never truly bond or relate outside of those circles… because Israel lacks the demographics to expand and occupy the lands they want. So passing everyone through the monster machine is the only reliable way to import people who will be sufficiently committed to the implementation of Zionism. Because otherwise they will never locally produce the numbers to expand, or to hold the land, or to conquer it.

>>2443791
I'm dumbstruck why the argument hasn't been raised that if a Palestinian state legally doesn't exist (From the Zionist perspective), and "Judea and Samaria" (West Bank) and now the Gaza strip are sovereign Israeli territory, then it follows that the people living in these territories should all be entitled to Israel citizenship.
Anything less constitutes genocide or apartheid. You cannot have it both ways legally.
I know it's going to offend some people here, but compared to the ANC during apartheid (as raised in another thread) both Fatah and Hamas are objectively reactionary. The "progressive" demand would have been: Full citizenship and integration, as well as recognition of movements like Fatah and Hamas as legitimate Israeli political parties, even in return for disarmament, which then could also have served as a legal basis for compensation for the Nakba, and changed to the Law of Return.

The Zionist gambit to postpone both recognition of a Palestinian state and prevent a de-facto two state solution has failed. They've defanged the PA, and now severely diminished Hamas, leaving not much in the way of an armed opposition in favor of either a separate Palestinian state, or the abolition of Israel itself.
The full emancipation of all Arabs in Palestine/Israel is now the (perhaps only) way forward. And this is what "Leftists" should be pushing for.

>>2443986
Bigger question is whether that's desirable. I think full Portuguese citizenship (and its associated benefits 50 years later) would have been better than the Indonesian occupation which followed. But an autonomous region within Indonesia without continuous massacres and punitive actions would also have been better than what followed. With East Timor continuing to be one of the poorest countries in the world, with the Timorese people having little freedom of movement internationally.

>>2443816
Further reason why a one state solution and full emancipation should be pushed for, because it would break one of the social foundations of the zionist project.
Without an external enemy, and with non-Haredi jews losing their absolute majority this system becomes untenable. Unless they extend it to every citizen, but then they can no longer maintain both their ethnostate, and an ethnically Jewish army.

I think a place like Singapore has shown, together with many other explicitly multiethnic states, that this is not the end of a state or a people, but it does mean the end of apartheid and settler colonialism.
I also agree with your last point, and it touches on a Zionist dilemma and the reasons for the unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip twenty years ago: The point has always been to kick the can down the road. To keep the conflict going in a semi-frozen state, and prevent both the establishment of a unified state and separate Palestinian state. And maintain the majority Jewish demographic balance in Israel. As well as the preeminent position of necessity of the IDF as a social glue which turns Jews from all over the world into Israelis.
But that's all breaking down now. There's ever more Haredis, who do not wish to serve, or even in many cases, refuse to engage in any "profitable" (or at least taxable) economic activity. Discontinuing the wars also means everyone will be focused on Netanyahu and his domestic failures and scandals.
If one ends Hamas and any prospect for a two-state solution, it also threatens to upend the long-term demographics keeping parties like Likud in power.
The whole project is heading for a reckoning no matter if they "win" this war.

>>2443816
I thought the end goal was genocide? Bibi cares as much about the hostages as maga cares about epsteen's victims… Now pressure is on Hezbollah to disarm, which would mean further destabilization. It's almost like Israel needs violence to justify their existence. This is why a two state solution is the only way the Palestinian people will be able to thrive instead of trying to survive.

ITT: Anons squabble over the definition of "winning" in the changing environment of the conflict.

So far dying en masse, of privations under siege, *may* be winning but we really can't tell until the liberal Zionists declare themselves victorious over Netanyahu's government. Remain optimistic. No matter what happens to Palestinians, victory shall be ours, once Hareetz publishes it so.

>>2444591
Dunno about others, but I'm solidly on the "Hamas lost" side of things. But the entirety of the struggle was never completely tied up with Hamas anyway, anymore than Lenin was the beginning and end of Russian Communism.
This is however a new era.

Personally, I don't see the value of dwelling in fantasies about how Hamas will defeat the IDF in a final decisive battle and then all the Zionists will be immolated or something. It's cope at this point.
The ANC didn't win by destroying the South African state in its entirety and killing every white settler who moved there in the past one hundred years.
They won by securing emancipation, the abolition of the Bantustans, and full citizenship, political rights and freedom of movement.
That is what I believe the future is for the anti-Zionist cause from this point on. And it might be fought peacefully in courts and through protests both within Israel an internationally, or in the form of another intifada/insurrection, or both.
But I think the particular branch of anti-zionism represented by "defeating the IDF on the battlefield and killing all Zionists Haiti style" has reached a dead end.

You know, each time a Mossadist boasts about how they were able to hunt down and kidnap Eichmann from the other side of the planet, they are digging their own moral grave even deeper. Surely if they were able to get Eichmann from Argentina with zero civillian casualities besides the butthurt of some Argentinian Jew who never got his payment… they should be able to eventually to do the same for the Hamas dudes repsponsible for Oct 7, right?

>>2444003
Correct. Gaza and the West Bank could be purged entirely and they would say that there's Hamas in southern Lebanon, Sinai, Jordan, etc.

>>2444603
Israel isn't like South Africa when it comes to demographics. They have the settler population to replace the indigenous one. They're not invested in a project of white supremacy (with an indigenous population as an underclass) but white nationalism (removing totally the indigenous people). No situation exists where peace can be made with them, because they are committed to a fight to the death.

>>2445098
The same was said about Rhodesia and South Africa. It was a supposedly existential (racial) struggle against the indigenous population. But they still lost and were forced to accept emancipation.

Taking account both the non-Jewish arab population within Israel as well as Gaza and the West Bank, the growing Haredi population, as well as the increasing number of "left leaning" secular Israelis means the demographics keeping parties like Likud in power will become untenable as soon as the next election.
Shas + Likud is at 35 seats in recent polls. And the other remaining coalition partners are below the electoral threshold.

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Graphic footage from the Israeli attack on Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza's Khan Younis shows a strike hitting rescue workers following an initial strike.

According to Palestinian media, at least 14 were killed in the strikes, including three journalists.

One of them was a Reuters journalist and another was an associated press journalist killed in this strike by Israel so good luck to Israel with this shit show. Both news organizations work with thousands of outlets world wide

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn725ny0ryjt

>A Reuters cameraman and an Associated Press journalist were among those killed in the attack at Nasser Hospital

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>>2446312
>so good luck to Israel with this shit show.
It was KhamΓ€s who killed them and even if it wasn't KhamΓ€s, they deserved it for hiding KhamΓ€s - Every nation but Yemen

>>2445132
>Rhodesia or South Africa
If Israel loses it's neocolonial enforcer role for NATO, then the loss is so much greater than those places swapping colonialism for financial imperialism. And so it won't be permitted to develop as those places did.

And if it doesn't, if the transition away from Zionism is somehow still leaving an Israel that is an attack dog of NATO… then has changed other than making Palestinians honorary Aryans of convenience? congratulations, this is exactly the same as the mythical "two state" solution and cannot be for the same reasons.

Cool lady.

>>2446312
This is an Israeli reporter. They are so desperate at this point to invent something

Very cool

Albanese un

>>2443773
>Unless their economy goes to shit
Israel is not an independent state. If anything ever happened to it's economy, the United States would spare no expense in bailing it out.

Double tap’ airstrikes: How Israel targets Gaza rescue efforts
In the aftermath of bombings, the Israeli army routinely fires on Palestinian rescue workers, paramedics, and other civilians to prevent them from saving the wounded, an investigation reveals.

https://www.972mag.com/double-tap-israel-gaza-airstrikes-rescue/

Great article.

>>2446389
>if the transition away from Zionism is somehow still leaving an Israel that is an attack dog of NATO… then has changed other than making Palestinians honorary Aryans of convenience? congratulations, this is exactly the same as the mythical "two state" solution and cannot be for the same reason
Well then you get it. The Palestinian cause isn't ontologically anti-imperialist. Anymore than any other "self-determination" struggle. It's an artifact of historical circumstance.
A none ethnostate Israel nevertheless acting on NATO/US interests in the region? I can see it happening. It's not like Palestinians or Arab Israelis need the western "Left" or their solidarity after they achieve full emancipation.
Or maybe Israel will go to the Cuba route, and will stand in opposition to western Capital and imperialism in the region.

But I disagree both outcomes are the same, as I'm not convinced a two state solution will make the latter more likely. Less really. Because these settler colonial regimes are notable for their anti-communism and dependence on imperialist backing. They way they're organized, survive and operate is anathema to socialism.
People tend to forget South Africa performed much the same role Israel did during the Cold War: Keeping down communists in the region, including within SA. With US support.
Struggles for "self-determination" or emancipation also take up so much "space" culturally, etc. That they cast a shadow on the communist movement, unless communists are themselves inseparable from this struggle, as was the case in Russia and Vietnam (With Ho Chi Minh also aspiring towards an eventual Indochina federation).
This isn't the case with Hamas/Fatah however because they're typical libnats, and in case of Fatah, almost inseparable from compradors.

Hitler tried to stop this

>>2446848
As if Hitler hadn't mass starved to death his own prisoners of war.

>>2446866
No evidence of this ever happening

>>2446867
I hope you get dragged to hell by the millions of dead Soviets you had just insulted so hideously.

>>2446869
>No I am not pretending I really am upset about POWs dying in a war from almost a century ago
LOL okay, sure thing.

>>2446876
>Says someone who surely cries himself to sleep each night over an imagined "genocide" of Byzantinians by the "Turkish horde" 500+ years ago.

>>2445098
Why are you blaming Jewish crimes on muh white people. Israel is a Jewish supremacist state not a white nationalist one.

>>2446395
babykillers OUT

#winning

My personal view on why America helps Israel so much consists of several aspects. First, the United States is a global superpower. The only countries or groups that can currently compete with the United States in power or influence are China and the European Union, and you also have the Gulf states with their control over oil resources. The United States wants to maintain this role as the number one power. So far, the United States has 600 military bases around the world, and to maintain its influence in these places, it has supported the removal of democratically elected governments, funded opposition groups within countries with money and training to destabilize them, invaded countries militarily, formed alliances with wicked leaders, and mistreated noble leaders. They have ignored people’s violations and supported violations as well. The U.S. government does not care at all about human rights, women’s rights, freedom, or democracy. They only care about maintaining their influence at any cost.

Before the establishment of Israel, as you know, it was a region primarily inhabited by Arabs of Muslim origin. After World War II, a large number of Jews were displaced, and various world powers made an agreement to send Jews to that location. This was, as you know, something terrible and genocidal in its outcome, as people did not simply join Palestine but removed hundreds of thousands of Muslims. When this first happened, the Soviet Union immediately recognized Israel as a state. They believed Israel could be their ally.

Shortly afterward, when the United States committed to supporting Israel and Israel was not following Soviet plans, the Soviets decided to ally more with the Arab world and Arab states. And as you know, the Soviets and the United States always had many problems, which made it easy for one side to fund Israel and the other side to fund the Arab states.

When World War II broke out, millions of Jews migrated to the United States. Half of the Jews in the world live in the United States. These people gained political and financial power that allowed them to lobby for Israel and create support for it. Then you have the larger group of Christians, who are told in the Bible to support the land of Israel, and they also hold power in the United States.

Bringing together these two groups of wealth and power makes it necessary, as a politician, to align with pro-Israel views, because U.S. politics requires a lot of donations, and news outlets have huge influence that can destroy your career, and they are privately owned by the wealthy, who are likely wealthy Zionists. This created an environment where it is in your interest, in order to hold power, to vote in ways that help Israel and publicly express views that support it. As you know, Israel’s location is where a very large part of global trade passes, with the Suez Canal next to your country and Israel. This is an important area for the United States to access, so it needs good relations with the countries in that location to do what it wants there.

Since the United States has more than 600 military bases around the world and wants to control strategic trade routes like this, it not only needs to establish relations with countries but also to establish embassies there, news institutions, and form alliances with political or local groups to advance its interests there. And to allow it to do so, it needs to offer something to the country: either protection, money, intimidation by force, goods, fighting their enemy, or creating opportunities for their growth. With Israel, the United States has a partner, and it needs surrounding countries to align with Israel. So it pays Jordan and Egypt a lot of money every year to maintain a civil relationship with Israel so that the United States can continue accessing these areas.

When there is a leader the United States agrees with or who accepts its bribes, the United States will not ruin his life. When they stand in the way of the United States, you may face an invasion, propaganda against you, assassination, sanctions, or support for your opposition as well. For the United States to do this, it needs to maintain relations with surrounding countries it wants to pressure militarily and also offer bribes or other things to neighboring countries so that they become enemies of that state too or stop approaching it. This is what you see in how the United States deals with Iran.

Over time, Israel, through funding from many Western countries and training and education systems, became an independent state that the United States can arm against enemies in the region, as Israel has a decent army, a lot of technological progress, and strong protection with defense systems, so it ended up functioning as a floating military base for the United States in that region.

This allows the United States to maintain its power in that region. And to strengthen this power, they have to make sure opposition does not grow in surrounding countries that openly oppose Israel in its actions or countries that decide to fight against them. They do not need them to be best friends but only to mind their own business. So the United States pushes these countries to reach agreements with Israel in documents, recognize capitals, bring their own embassies there, trade with Israel, and shut down anti-Israel people in those countries. When a country starts bothering the United States in this regard, the United States often funds groups to fight them even within their own state or buys people to create problems.

That is the military side of everything I said. The secondary part is what you may have heardβ€”that a large portion of the richest people in the world are Jews, so they will have great power to push people to support Israel, which makes it in their interest to do so, as well as wealthy Christians. These people want Israel to be strong, for Jews to be strong, or they have some biblical beliefs requiring Israel, so they want the state to be powerful. All

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>>2448605
>only countries or groups that can currently compete with the United States in power or influence are China and the European Union

>>2448605
I ain’t reading all that

Congratulations or sorry that happened

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/08/11/israel-iran-war-trump-nuclear-august-december/

>[W]ith its June attacks, Israel achieved a partial victory at best. Its preferred outcome was for Trump to fully engage, targeting both Iran’s conventional forces and economic infrastructure. But while Trump favors swift, decisive military action, he fears full-scale war. His strategy in attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities was thus designed to limit escalation rather than expand it. In the short term, Trump succeededβ€”much to Israel’s chagrinβ€”but in the long run, he has allowed Israel to trap him in an escalatory cycle.


>His refusal to escalate beyond a limited bombing campaign was a key reason that Israel agreed to a cease-fire.


>Regardless of whether Iran resumes uranium enrichment, Israel is determined to deny it time to replenish its missile arsenal, restore air defenses, or deploy improved systems. That logic is central to Israel’s β€œmowing the grass” strategy: strike preventively and repeatedly to prohibit adversaries from developing capabilities that could challenge Israeli military dominance.

>This means that, with Iran already rebuilding its military resources, Israel has an incentive to strike sooner rather than later. What’s more, the political calculus around another attack becomes much more complicated once the United States enters its midterm election season. As a result, a strike could very well take place within the coming months.


>This, of course, is the outcome that Iranian leaders want to deter. To dispel any illusion that Israel’s β€œmowing the grass” strategy works, Iran is likely to strike hard and fast at the outset of the next war.

Venice: Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Jonathan Glazer Back Gaza Drama β€˜The Voice of Hind Rajab’ as Executive Producers
Kaouther Ben Hania's film retells the real-life story of a six-year-old girl trapped in Gaza under Israeli fire, pleading for rescue.

Hollywood heavyweights, including Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, and Rooney Mara, have come on board Kaouther Ben Hania’s Gaza-set drama The Voice of Hind Rajab, as executive producers, boosting the film’s profile ahead of its world premiere in competition at the Venice Film Festival.

Also joining the film as executive producers are Dede Garner and Jeremy Kleiner of Pitt’s production outfit Plan B, The Zone of Interest director Jonathan Glazer, and Roma filmmaker Alfonso Cuaron. Several high-profile companies, including Britain’s Film4 and Saudi Arabian state-owned group MBC Studio, have also backed The Voice of Hind Rajab.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/brad-pitt-backs-gaza-drama-film-the-voice-of-hind-rajab-1236353414/

The Voice of Hind Rajab (Arabic: ءوΨͺ Ω‡Ω†Ψ― Ψ±Ψ¬Ψ¨) is an upcoming 2025 drama film written and directed by Kaouther Ben Hania. It follows the killing of Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl who lived in the Gaza Strip and was killed by Israeli forces during the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza.[3][4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Voice_of_Hind_Rajab

W

https://archive.is/zcjjZ#selection-295.23-297.89

Ahead of Gaza City Conquest, Israeli Ground Troops Say They're Treated Like Cannon Fodder

<Israeli ground troops in Gaza report life-threatening equipment shortages due to budget limitations, even as billions are spent elsewhere. The constraints have heightened tensions with the better-funded Air Force, particularly as a major operation looms in Gaza City

>>2442324
> when western powers copy Israel's playbook people are going to be much wiser to what's going on and it won't be as effective
This is delusional. The playbook in question isn't even uniquely Israeli.

>>2442360
Jewish nigger

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Hollywood is now turning against Israel?

>>2446848
Kanye, kill yourself

>>2446395
The Rebel News disease has spread to Australia? Damn. Good on that lady for treating that goof like the piece of shit he is, I hope her hair salon gets inundated with appointments and that nice things happen for her in general.

Microsoft workers are trying to force the company to stop serving israelis
https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1960774693146820637

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why is north korea such a dystopian country

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avg israeli government tweet

>>2450355
can you maybe find a better source than nazi news

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>>2450658
/palestine/ in a nutshell

>>2449899
based Brad Pitt??

>>2450806
if they remove the early life section rachel sennot's groyper hatemail is going to triple overnight

>>2450238
>X is now turning against Israel?
Well everyone will at some point been against the second Nakba, other than people and organizations whose identity is *just* Zionism. Even Joe Biden's admin is already washing their hands off it.

But don't get tired of WINNING yet, fellow anti-Zionist. I have it on good word that the good people of Israel (Anti-Netanyahu) are planning to institute mandatory land acknowledgements for at least a couple of years in Israeli Gaza, before corporate AND public sector meetings.

And, aaaand peep this out: There are some A-M-A-Z-I-N-G-L-Y scathing Hareetz and 972mag articles in the pipeline. I'll tell you now, Israel is never gonna live down the second Nakba! We got em'!

>>2442512
>Hamas winning the war on the battlefield is delusional at this point.
>at this point
It was never feasible. The problem is, Israel's "victory" would always be too costly, and be the end of them.

>>2450658
Can you find a better thing to kvetch about?

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>>2451948
>terror censored
fuck off maybe
Also why is the color of the writing italian or irish, cote d'ivoire? Solid idea, bad execution

You can drop the white, not the black (actually on second thought, you run into problems with certain african flags or the pan-african) if you want to have 3 colors and make it distinct. I don't know I'd have to see it before me.
I know fuck all about this composition or design in general but I definitely know this is less than ideal.

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Bad day for the russian saboteurs

>>2452961
Can’t even use a (((slur))) these days smh

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So what now? Its over?

>>2453945
Give proofs not some twitter who.
If this indeed did happen, hinkle would cry and weep on his twitter.

>>2452962
The mods are fake and ghey. This is not the only word filter. For example, the funniest one is ᴉuᴉlossnW

>>2453945
Saudi clay

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>Israeli airstrike kills Houthi prime minister in Yemen, rebels say

>Ahmed al-Rahawi killed alongside several ministers gathered for prerecorded speech by rebel group’s leader


>The premier was targeted along with other members of his Houthi-controlled government during a β€œroutine workshop held by the government to evaluate its activities and performance over the past year”, the Houthi statement said.


>Thursday’s Israeli strike took place as the rebel-owned television station was broadcasting a speech by Abdul-Malik al-Houthi, the secretive leader of the rebel group, in which he was sharing updates on the latest Gaza developments and vowing retaliation against Israel. Senior Houthi officials used to gather to watch al-Houthi’s prerecorded speeches.


>The strike that killed the prime minister targeted a meeting for Houthi leaders in a villa in Beit Baws, an ancient village in southern Sana’a, three tribal leaders told the Associated Press. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they feared repercussions.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/30/yemens-houthis-say-israeli-airstrike-killed-their-prime-minister

>>2454119
Hopefully the response will be an airstrike on the I$raeli prime minister netyahu that kills him, all associates, and his extended family.

>>2454119
Well shit.
They never learn holy shit.
First Nasrallah, now this.
I'm not even counting Soleimani.
At least Abu Obeida is still invisible. Though I don't know how long.


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Pathetic

why are there so many iranian zionists?

>>2454964
I hate to blame the victim but if you are in the Houthis position why would you have all the top people come together in one place? Surely they knew they are still a target

>>2454961
<it's le over!!!!!11
How do we still have underage faggots who post like this, i thought jannies were supposed to be working again?

>>2454961
>>2454278
Lol how does israel keep getting away with this? I have an answer. They are more technolgically advanced and no techno advanced country is helping palestine. Not even russia or china.

>>2455140
Have you been living under a rock?
There is no-one left to lead hamas and hezbollah. They just keep striking the top until nobody has the guts to lead. You can only expect token resistance. Nobody is helping them. Even Iran was fucked so hard they are scared of israel. I'm sorry but this is just a fact at this point. Hamas should have stormed tel aviv but instead they just decided to do hostage PR and stupid shit. Russia did the same shit and only because they have more numbers, they can win this attrition war. The axis of resistance is dead. We are next. Everyone not of the elite will be surveilled and logged like cattle. The bad guys are winning. And I wish I had good news but fuck no.

>>2455160
These orgs keep replacing their leaders, it’s not really possible to destroy them

His death is confirmed, crazy he had the guts to stay in Gaza after all the rest of Hamas leadership got killed since many months
Wasnt he the last survivor of pre-2023 Hamas leadership ?

>>2455054
They're good at hacking phones. Apparently a weak link in Iran's security is that senior officials wouldn't carry phones but their drivers and bodyguards would and the Israelis hacked those. They nearly killed Pezeshkian this way but the bombs didn't do enough damage to the bunker and he got out.

<> >>2456271

(From a rally of a few thousand reactionaries in reaction to the recent Palestine rallies of hundreds of thousands)

>>2456273
Damn, cites in orangetext are broken lol

>>2456271

>>2455763
The soviets had their own mobile phones (yes they were primitive by the 1980s, but they were functional) why can't Iran make unhackable phones? All this shit is possible because Israel embeds itself into android development teams and that is why Pegasus costs a shit ton of money. It's not because they are really good hackers, it's because the proceeds from pegasus go to funding bribery of engineers to leak or create backdoors that only the NSO group would know. You would be surprised just how much code is in 1 megabyte of text. It would take 3 hours to comb through it and that is without doing it meticulously. Seriously, Most people don't know the forest of bugs on modern electronics.

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THE HAGUE, Sept 1 (Reuters) - The world's leading genocide scholars' association has passed a resolution saying that the legal criteria have been met to establish Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, its president said on Monday.
Eighty-six percent of those who voted among the 500-member International Association of Genocide Scholars backed the resolution declaring: "Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza meet the legal definition of genocide in Article II of the United Nations Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948)".

"This is a definitive statement from experts in the field of genocide studies that what is going on on the ground in Gaza is genocide," the association's president, Melanie O'Brien, a professor of international law at the University of Western Australia who specialises in genocide, told Reuters.
Sergey Vasiliev, a professor of international law at the Open University in the Netherlands who is not a member of the association, told Reuters the resolution showed that "this legal assessment has become mainstream within academia, particularly in the field of genocide studies."
Several international rights groups and some Israeli NGOs have already accused Israel of committing genocide. Last week hundreds of U.N. staff at the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Turk wrote to ask him to explicitly describe the Gaza war as an unfolding genocide, according to a letter reviewed by Reuters.

https://archive.is/pqGnG

What will the Zionist cope be to this

>>2456429
There won’t be a cope, they’ll just say β€œIt’s our turn, fuck you”

>>2456429
The US will invade the Hague before they acknowledge Israel is committing genocide.

>>2456723
Invading the Hague would probably prove disastrous for the US in the long term

>>2456724
>The American Service-Members' Protection Act, known informally as the Hague Invasion Act[1] (ASPA, Title 2 of Pub. L. 107–206 (text) (PDF), H.R. 4775, 116 Stat. 820, enacted August 2, 2002) is a United States federal law described as "a bill to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party."[2] The text of the Act has been codified as subchapter II of chapter 81 of title 22, United States Code. The act gives the president power to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court".[3]

>>2456729
We know. that in no way invalidates what OP said.

>>2456729
Think of the optics if this was actually done though, if the US itself pushes things too far dedollarization accelerates and the rest of the world suddenly can out economic and political pressure on the US

>>2456733
Disastrous long term consequences don't seem to stop the US from doing other ill-conceived things.

>>2456746
The US very obviously doesn't care about optics. It stands alone with Israel voting down every common sense good idea the US puts forward for consideration.

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cartoon villain ahh country

>>2456429
That about the average time for liberals to catch up with me.

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>>2456974
>cartoon villain ahh country

>>2456764
*UN not US, in the second part there
lol

>>2457503
Comments are fucking gross. Ziorats need annudah october 7 to happen to them. I have no sympathy for "muh hostages". Fuck your hostages. If I was a hostage, I would have joined hamas already or worked as a medic or some shit.

>>2443205
>when jews of all people commit ethnic cleansing?
idk why that's remarkable, the Canaanites didn't leave voluntarily

>>2457971
Agreed. This shit has happened thousands of years ago. The zios just want to live like it's the bronze age. They kind of forget tho, that what hamas did is a walk in the park to what was done in the bronze age. The zios want to have their cake and eat it too. They want genocide, but only against their enemies. It doesn't work that way and they might get bomber harris'd in the process.

Imagine thinking Israel is historically special
>ib4 moralists

>>2457505
how many were killed by the IDF. its not like they give a shit about them either lol

>>2457503
Yes thank you I mistyped I meant they vote down everything the UN puts forward.

>>2457971
>>2457982
The Israelites were Canaanites. The biblical genocides have no supporting historical evidence. The zionists are trying to recapture that "lost glory" but it's not actually real in the first place.


IDF are feds.

>>2458489
You got it the wrong way around

>>2456325
>why can't Iran make unhackable phones?
If they did they have to go back to making primitive 80s shit but the real problem is Israel is completely embedded in the tech sector and Iranians/Russians/Arabs keep buying this shit. I don't think even Chinese phones would do the trick.

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In an attempt to obstruct medical institutions amid ongoing massacres against civilians, Israeli occupation drones are setting fire to the only available ambulances in Gaza City, along with civilian vehicles and homes, at Sheikh Radwan clinic in the north of the city.

https://xcancel.com/QudsNen/status/1962980272510583030#m

Israeli occupation quadcopter drones throw incendiary bombs on civilians and cars in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood in Gaza City.

https://xcancel.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1963129020574203913#m

Gaza City right now.

Israel is massively bombing entire civilian neighborhoods in the middle of the night.

Families are trapped in their homes as Israeli bombs rain down.

This is an American-backed, American-funded Holocaust.

https://xcancel.com/sahouraxo/status/1963003637363315092#m

Thiago Avilla reports about the surveillance drones that flew above the Sumud Freedom Flotilla ships in international waters while heading to Gaza

https://xcancel.com/QudsNen/status/1963011969717281133#m

The Global Sumud Flotilla is launching today. Over 50 ships from 44 countries are taking part in the largest civilian mission to break Israel’s siege on Gaza.

BT’s Joel Northam is on board and will be reporting as it sets sail from Barcelona

https://xcancel.com/BTnewsroom/status/1962179221532336286#m

Gaza strip
8 July 2023 vs September 1, 2025.

Israel must be held accountable for this.

https://xcancel.com/TARUNspeakss/status/1962926675395805680#m

3 year old Abdullah Al-Hour, the sole survivor of his family, suffered severe burns after an Israeli airstrike on their home in Al-Daraj neighborhood, Gaza City.

https://xcancel.com/vikingwarior20/status/1963104383958192273#m

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>literal neo-Nazi org host various high-profile rallies in Australia, speak at them, harass Zionist streamer and beat up his bodyguard
>Australia's Special Envoy to Combat Antisemitism (government appointment) doesn't bat an eye
:0

>>2459355
>>2459355
Sick Mr Benji on these dog-cunts please. Kind regards from the land of up-over.

>>2458638
So the Dancing Isn'treali thing is true. It was true in 2001. It was true in 2023.


>>2459828
FDPD FDPD

>>2459828
>>2459833
I hope there is an archive of all of these. At least something good is happening in Gaza.

israelis blow up a donkey for fun

>>2454961
How did I miss this? This is so fucking bleak man

>2 lightly hurt by Houthi drone impact at terminal in south Israel’s Ramon Airport, medics say

<One of the victims was hit by shrapnel or the blast of the impact, while the second is being treated for acute anxiety, according to the ambulance service.


>The drone launched from Yemen struck the passenger terminal at the airport north of Eilat. The IDF is investigating.

Gunmen entered a bus in settlement area and started shooting this morning


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>>2465688
Bada bing bada boom

palestinians killed up to 5 israelis at a bus stop in jerusalem

>Reuters is reporting that Israeli foreign minister Gideon Saar has said that six people were killed in the Jerusalem attack (not five as Israel’s ambulance service has said).

>Saar made the comments as he was speaking via a translator at a joint briefing with Hungarian foreign minister Peter Szijjarto in Budapest.


>We have not yet been able to independently verify the death toll.


>Israel’s defence minister, Israel Katz, has warned that a β€œpowerful hurricane” will β€œstrike the skies of Gaza City” later today as the military continues to expand its assault on the territory’s largest city.


>β€œToday, a powerful hurricane will strike the skies of Gaza City, and the roofs of the terror towers will,” he wrote in a post on X.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/08/middle-east-crisis-live-jerusalem-shooting-israel-threatens-gaza-city-powerful-hurricane-latest-news

>>2465715
Another KKKrakkka down.

>>2465688
πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰πŸ₯³πŸ₯³πŸ₯³πŸ₯³πŸ₯³

>>2465715
Watch as 90% of your "allies" pivot to "cycle of violence" and both sides "denouncing terrorism".

Watch all the liberal Zionism that you claim as victories of the left shows it's true colors.

>>2465712
Palestine is saved!

6 Israelis getting killed today gets more media coverage than the 60 Palestinians killed today

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ISREAL NUKED MOTHERFUCKING DOHA

>>2467192
They really have a carte blanche don't they? They could bomb greece or something and nothing would be done about it

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>>2467200
Zionist occupied government world. ZOW is real.

>>2467192
this is AI right, there's absolutely no fucking way

>>2465712
Based comments

>>2467205 (me)
>it's real
OPERATION BIBIROSSA IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>>2467205
It's not a nuke if that's what you're asking. Just one small house.
>>2467199

>>2467202
Then they have no right to exist. Their bullshit chosen peeple belong in the bronze age.

>>2467208
Xitter is saying multiple targets/houses were struck

>>2467215
They must all be afflicted with some sort of mental retardation. Like it just keeps happening. You would think eventually they would learn…

>>2467223
>The official name for the strike is β€œAtzeret HaDin,” (Day of Judgment)
No matter the context and I don't think too much is gonna come of this at this stage. But I still vastly prefer Operation Bibirossa.

>>2467223
Israelis always overcompensating with their military op names

al jazeera saying the leaders were struck while discussing a trump peace proposal

>>2467250
Fell for it again award.
When will these retards not understand they are trying to negotiate with the empire that wants them dead? Also fuck russchink alliance for not helping. And dont give me the arab ummah cope. Fuck them. I rather israel genocide them but of course they wont because they are good boys for bibi. Russchinks are such pussies to challege the usa golem. Fucking unreal.

So Israel can just bomb literally fucking anyone at anytime and there will be no consequences.

I fucking hate this world

>>2467261
Cuckmaxxing

>>2467261
The Arabs get gangraped and stabbed and, while bleeding to death on the side of the road, mutter out some citation of International Law. And they've been doing it for over a hundred fucking years.

>>2467223
>Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu left his closed-door legal hearing today for a long recess because of β€œan exceptional security matter,” according to the Kan public broadcaster.
this mf always does this man it's getting old

is this the nail in the coffin for the zionist project, or at least normalization?

>>2467360
Not them trying to kill the ceasefire negotiators again bruh

Well at least they survived, very embarrassing for the ziocucks

>>2467338
Whoa! They're gonna go to the UN and cite International Law TOGETHER!! WHILE HOLDING HANDS 😳😳😳!!!
This is exactly the development we needed! Israel has just two more weeks!

>>2467297
Yup! It really is like that, no consequences but the ones we impose on them ourselves

>>2467376
>>>/siberia/
Cam you not retard-post here please?

>A leading source told Al-Mayadeen that the Hamas negotiating delegation survived the Israeli assassination attempt in Qatar.

>>2467372
Guys I don't remember, did Israel unilaterally pummeling Iran cause any international trouble? Surely it led to their Dissolution? Le rules based order?

>>2467372
we haven't even seen Peak Zionism yet, they're going to find some false flag Oct 7 2.0 to motivate the already burned out Israeli society for an even bigger round of fighting against Turkey/Syria/Lebanon and maybe even Jordan and Egypt while conducting a terror bombing campaign against Iran

>>2467413
Maybe Lebanon and Syria but only and solely because those are an extremely weak position. Anyone who thinks Israel is going to go away any minute now by launching an invasion of Egypt is just coping for the West losing interest in making a stink about Israel anymore and the Gaza genocide continuing unabated.

>>2467412
alright but the west hates Iran and would gladly support a proxy war between Iran and Israel.

Striking Qatar is a (relatively) unhinged move since Qatar is not some boogeyman "enemy" state but actually has close ties to the west. But you know, this is Israel we're talking about so they'll get away with it probably.

>>2467432
>alright but the west hates Iran and would gladly support a proxy war between Iran and Israel
Most of The West clearly was not happy when it was on the cards. If we mean anerica we should just say america, as its foreign policy more and more out of strp with the rest.

>>2467192
Thank you JDPON Don and Satanyahu for destroying the US empire!

>>2467453
sure, I mean objectively America shouldn't be OK with striking Qatar since it goes against our interests BUT apparently American interests don't fucking matter anymore so yeah Qatar better get used to more strikes and we better suit up for broader regional conflict

Why does everyone think the only response is war? Qatar can respond by closing the USA military base. It would be a huge response.

>>2467499
>Why does everyone think the only response is war?
Nobody. Literally 0 anons are saying this.

>>2467474
America is going to start losing allies in the ME now

>>2467501
Trump is coming off as the biggest cuck we've ever had as a president. A degenerate cuck at that. Too bad most of Americas allies are bigger ones but as they see how ineffectual and stupid American leadership is they'll drift away hopefully

>>2467360
did israel intentionally use something very low powered? why did they let them live?

al jazeera
>Qatari security officer killed in Israeli strikes: Interior Ministry
>Qatar’s Interior Ministry says a member of the country’s security forces was killed and others were injured while responding at the site of the Israeli strikes.

>We have more lines from Al Jazeera’s interview with Suhail al-Hindi, the member of Hamas’s political bureau.
>Al-Hindi said the attempt to kill Khalil al-Hayya and other Hamas leaders who were meeting to discuss Trump’s ceasefire proposal has failed.
>But the attack killed al-Hayya’s son, Humam, and one of his top aides. Contact has also been lost with three other bodyguards, al-Hindi said.

what trump proposal are we talking about? the one about turning gaza into a resort?

Imagine gifting Trump a plane and then get bombed either way. The arab monarchist cucks. I bet Qatar will join Saudi Arabia in saying "fuck it kill the Pals so we can keep making money".

location of compound:
25Β°21'26.1"N 51Β°30'34.4"E

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>>2467700
>have the Jews
*the irish

Will they start having talks in Ankara? Is this a win for the turks?

>>2467701
Cucktar needs to end its alliance or else it will be forever a cuck state

>>2467499
They should

>>2467757
>The jews will do the same to Turkey soon enough
1.*the irish
2. Turkey and Israel are buddies

>>2467862
The cartel is worse tho

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>US troops forced to run for cover on live tv

>AnsharAllah (Houtis) missile attack on Israel INTERRUPTS Independence Day ceremony


>Event was marking the US’ 249th birthday in Jerusalem


These colors sometimes run


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trump monkey both claims that he was notified by Israel and that he wasn’t

Lol

>>2468101
just how he claims epstein was a hoax while mike the cuck johnson claims he was an fbi informant. They really do think you are stupid and just need something to cope.

It's truly a sad state of affairs.

is qatar+usa actually mad about what israel did or are they just pretending for kayfabe?

>>2468106
qatar is pissed cuz it challenges their sovereignty and america is pissed cuz trump is sincere in wanting a deal with hamas. israel is subordinate to the US but even they can't stop israel from acting on its own behalf

>>2468114
oh I thought it was more about "oh jeez, whoops, we really wanted to have a deal with you but then our dog got of its leash and bit your face off again"

>>2468105
>They really do think you are stupid and just need something to cope.
you have supporters who thought when trump was palling around with epstein and girls he was doing some 'gandhian' thing to test his resolve. they do hate their supporters but people get suckered into it again and again.

>>2468106
Just pretending of course

>>2468120
the only party involved that doesn't want a deal is israel

>>2467701
>>2468031
And throwing a hand grenade into a police station is resisting arrest.

>Ursula von der Leyen announced in the European Parliament in Strasbourg that all EU financial assistance to Israel has been suspended and that she is planning a partial suspension of the EU-Israel Association Agreement. She also said sanctions are being prepared against "extremist ministers" in the Israeli government.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/09/10/eu-suspends-all-economic-aid-to-israel/

>>2469282
why does a rich country like israel gets eu financial assistance?

in other clown world news

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2zy4l8jgeo

Anti-Islamic US biker gang members run security at deadly Gaza aid sites

The firm guarding sites where aid is distributed in Gaza has been using members of a US biker gang with a history of hostility to Islam to run its armed security, a BBC investigation has found.

BBC News has confirmed the identities of 10 members of the Infidels Motorcycle Club working in Gaza for UG Solutions - a private contractor providing security at Gaza Humanitarian Foundation sites, where hundreds of civilians seeking food have been killed in scenes of chaos and gunfire.

We can reveal that seven members of the gang are in senior positions overseeing sites at the controversial aid operation backed by Israel and US President Donald Trump.

UG Solutions (UGS) defended its employees' qualifications for the job, saying it does not screen people out for "personal hobbies or affiliations unrelated to job performance".

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) said it has "a zero-tolerance policy for any hateful, discriminatory biases or conduct".

Infidels MC was set up by US military veterans of the Iraq war in 2006 and members see themselves as modern Crusaders, using the Crusader cross as their symbol - a reference to the medieval Christians who fought Muslims for control of Jerusalem.

The gang is currently hosting anti-Muslim hate speech on its Facebook page and has previously held a pig roast "in defiance of" the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

The gang's leader, Johnny "Taz" Mulford, is a former sergeant in the US Army who was punished for conspiracy to commit bribery, theft and making false statements to military authorities. He is now the "country team leader" running UG Solutions' contract in Gaza.

We emailed Infidels MC for comment. In response, Mr Mulford instructed fellow leaders of the biker gang not to reply but included the BBC when he clicked "reply all" - inadvertently disclosing email addresses and names of fellow Infidels MC members, some of whom were working in Gaza.

By matching up names with public information about Infidels MC's leadership, and evidence from UG Solutions insiders who worked with them, we have identified 10 members of Infidels MC who Mr Mulford recruited to work with him in Gaza.

UGS told the BBC it conducts comprehensive background checks and only deploys vetted individuals. However, news reports indicate Mr Jarrett was arrested two years ago in the US for drunk driving and has a previous charge of driving under the influence from about a decade earlier. It is not known whether either case resulted in a conviction.

The founder and chief executive of UG Solutions, Jameson Govoni, was arrested earlier this year in North Carolina for his alleged involvement in a hit-and-run incident and for fleeing from police to evade arrest, according to court documents. Mr Govoni, who is based in the US and is not a member of Infidels MC, declined to comment.

Until now Mr Mulford was the only UG Solutions contractor to have been identified as a member of the Infidels. The BBC's investigation reveals how widespread his hiring of members of the biker gang has been, notably to better-paid jobs leading the UGS armed security teams.

Social media posts show that in May, just two weeks before travelling to Gaza, Mr Mulford sought to recruit US military veterans who follow him on Facebook, inviting anyone who "can still shoot, move and communicate" to apply.

In total, at least 40 of about 320 people hired to work for UG Solutions in Gaza were recruited from Infidels MC, according to an estimate by a former contractor.

UG Solutions is paying each contractor $980 (Β£720) per day including expenses, rising to $1,580 (Β£1,160) per day for team leaders at GHF's "safe distribution sites", documents seen by the BBC show.

One leader of a team in Gaza overseeing site security, Josh Miller, posted a photo of a group of contractors in Gaza with a banner reading "Make Gaza Great Again".

The banner advertises the logo of a company he owns which sells T-shirts and other clothing, including one which has the slogan "embrace violence" and another which says: "Surf all day, rockets all night. Gaza summer 25."

Mr Miller has the word "Crusader" tattooed across his fingers and "1095" on his thumbs. This is the year when the leader of the Catholic church, Pope Urban II, launched the first crusade, attacking Muslims as a "vile race". Mr Miller did not respond to requests for comment.

A post on the Infidels MC Facebook page selling "1095" hats says it signifies the start of the Crusades, "a military campaign by western European forces to recapture Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim control". The "Holy Land" refers to the area mostly covered by modern-day Israel and the Palestinian territories.

Johnny Mulford, who in addition to leading the gang is listed as the registered agent of a Florida company called Infidels MC, has the date 1095 tattooed across his chest. He has a Crusader cross tattooed on his right forearm and another on his left upper arm along with the word "Infidels".

The Infidels MC website also used to show the skull logo of the violent Marvel comic book character Punisher, a symbol appropriated by white supremacist groups, inscribed with "kafir" in Arabic script - which translates as "unbeliever" (or "infidel").

Scenes of chaos and danger have been common at the aid distribution sites in Gaza since they opened at the end of May. Up to 2 September, 1,135 children, women and men were killed near GHF sites while seeking food, according to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

The UN has said most of the killings appear to have been carried out by Israeli security forces. Incidents where civilians were harmed while seeking aid are "under review by the competent authorities in the IDF", the Israeli military said.

UGS has denied allegations that its security contractors also fired on civilians and that it put people seeking food in danger due to incompetent leadership. However, the company has admitted that warning shots have been used to disperse crowds.

In a statement, UG Solutions, based in North Carolina, said Johnny Mulford is a "trusted and respected figure" with more than 30 years' experience supporting the US and its allies globally. "We stand by his reputation, record, and his contributions to the success of complex missions," the company said.

"We do not screen for personal hobbies or affiliations unrelated to job performance or security standards. Every team member undergoes comprehensive background checks, and only qualified, vetted individuals are deployed on UG Solutions operations," UGS said.

>>2469612
As is often the case, words escape me. The depravity knows no end

>>2469612
these were no doubt the guys who were scream yee haw while firing guns at people recieving aid

>>2469781
Source?

Socialist led initiative petitioning to force out former German foreign minister Annalena Baerbock from being the new UN President, backed by the Spanish and Italian Communist Parties, various Dem-Soc groups, amongst others:
>https://act.progressive.international/baerbock-resign/

So far it has almost 80,000 signatures. It will not succeed in isolation, but the pressure helps to make her position untennable. If a large left block refuses to accept her position, if various states refuse it, etc.
She is a hardcore Zionist who helped protect Netanyahu from being arrested for war crimes and who greatly increased German arms sales to Israel throughout the current phase of the genocide.
If she is UN president she will set the agenda of the organisation for the next few years, and she is going to be very firmly pro-Israel. She could do a lot of real damage to prevent legislation to stop the genocide, apartheid, occupation.

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UN just voted on support for a 2 state solution on the condition that the hostages are freed and that Hamas are not a part of any Palestinian government.
Take note of who opposed the vote. Those are nations who reject a state of Palestine under any conditions, even if Hamas disbanded today.

>>2475948
Who drafted and promoted such a stupid resolution? Hamas is the only government there which is left.

>>2475948
Why didn't Cucktin tell Hungary to vote for what he thinks is correct

>>2475948
this should als obe obvious to any soc dem politician or influencer still pushing the 'two state' solution like bernie or corbyn that the 2 state model isn't inconsistent with imperialism. we already know the corrupt PA just acts as an outsourced regime

>>2471362
This stupid pig became the president of UNGA? What a disgrace to humanity…

>>2469612
Tragedy to those feel. Comedy to those that think.

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>>2471362
>progressive international

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_International

Reads like a CIA cutout tbh. Though it may affect your favs, so I doubt you'll wonder why they are there along the complete liberal and Zionist ghouls under the same umbrella.

>>2476662
That's because it is. Literally every non-communist "international" is just aping communists.

A study published in The Lancet medical journal by Dr. Gideon Polya and Professor Richard Hil on September 3rd. is claiming the current death toll in Gaza is at least 680,000 - with at least 380,000 being children 5-18 and another 100,000 being children below 5.
This is approximately 10x the scale of death reported by the BBC and other mainstream western sources.
I have no clue what the real figures are, but if it is even close to that, surely one day the entire western media and political establishment, or at least the segment of it that pretends to care about laws and human life will surely collapse, no?

>>2477410
I stopped believeing in "collapse" theory. They maintain the plot, any leak will be immediately plugged and memoryholed, dissenters will be fired or silenced. Non MSM dissenters would be ignored. The system will just continue functioning no matter what as long as it is alive.

>>2475948
wtf is wrong with papua??

Spaniards are being based by having disrupted the Vuelta which is the bicycle tour of country and one of the big three races with the Giro and the Tour. It's ending today I think and some cyclists were taken off their bicycles by protestors, they also had to finish multiple races ahead of the finish line cause the protestors were waiting to block it. Lots of Palestinian flags in the bystander crowds as well.

>>2477752
It's basically a cop state for Australian and others foreign mining companies and a huge cuckold for Indonesia with regard to West Papua. They have a cool flag, though.

>>2477752
The entire Pacific island region has a massive and highly influential evangelical christian zionist movement thanks to American missionaries and American influence.

In other news, both Ireland and the Netherlands have said they will refuse to participate in Eurovision 2026 if Israel is allowed to participate.
Iceland, Norway, and Spain are considering taking the same stance but have not done so yet.

>>2477952
It's great to see how acts of grandstanding buy absolution for the EU. Maybe Spain can kick the Israeli cyclists as well and pretend their government hasn't been trading weapons and looking the other way when Israeli weapon ships came and went form their ports.

Maybe they can compare with with Russia being kicked from every other sporting event and claim to be "balanced", maybe they can bothsides this as well.

JFC, the liberal Zios will buy you with peanuts.

>>2478983
> Maybe Spain can kick the Israeli cyclists as well and pretend their government hasn't been trading weapons and looking the other way when Israeli weapon ships came and went form their ports.

I agree with your message but Spain has now banned Israeli ships from their ports.

>>2468033
this guy's a holocaust denier
@1:01:25
>"So, we don't actually have any concrete evidence for the Holocaust."

>>2477774
They just cancelled the last race as the protestors blocked everything haha



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