>>2387201The internet doesn't even know if I'm Australian. GL,IB7P.
>>2392906It's a good flag.
But it's a different flag with a different meaning.
>>2393143>left wingNot a real concept. Learn to use specific words, comrade.
>>2393503NTA, but that was a good video, thank you.
In the spirit of its line of argument, what material/class interest do the following parties represent?
>Labor>Greens >>2408739Not sure what quality you were expecting from something called "Radical Online Leftist Pipeline Podcast".
>I don't know why I keep listening to these deadshit trotsI know Jordan is with a trot group, what about the others? Tom definitely wouldn't be. And plenty of the stuff you said are very far from trot positions that even CAlt probably wouldn't say them.
><israel is never going to change without external pressureWhy do you think a Zionist project will change much at all? The state admitting there's a genocide is a win for anti-Zionists, but isn't going to do much directly about the Zionist invasion of Palestine. It's mostly useful as opportunity at agitation by calling out their delay, hypocrisy, and that we were right since Oct 7 and earlier.
>constantly shitting on australia [snip]It's vital to end the state that rules over us, the Commonwealth of Australia. Australia (as opposed to Australians) should be ruthlessly shat on.
You're definitely right on some of the other crap, especially the nonsense orange lines at the end. I really hope they didn't imply those because that would be embarrassing.
History time!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(New_South_Wales)Take a guess at their ideology before you click.
>>2414677For real, I thought the organisers were being optimistic with their tens-of-thousands call. I'd been to some of the biggest PAG rallies before and they were big but not massive like this. Didn't help that their $$$Fascbook$$$ announcements had only two hundred reactions.
My mate said the rear end of the line started moving about an hour after the march started. Media are calling it in the hundreds of thousands, we're talking a few percent of the Sydney population going out in pissing rain.
It was interesting to see many of the more conservative unions and Labor Right are now deciding oh yes we support this now. Pricks.
>>2415684What instructions? (I didn't pay attention to cops stuff and couldn't hear the announcement or get a text.)
I did hear some people online blame them from going south->north instead of north->south, leading to a bottleneck.
>>2417451Were you seriously expecting anything different? Its not like the Commonwealth of Australia is going to go any further than neutrality against an allied, honorary-Western country. Anyone who thinks our governments will ever support a one-state, non-Zionist Palestine is delusional and ignorant, as ignorant as someone who thinks we can just ask the government nicely to give the land back to the indigenous peoples.
The Zionist Regime is materially useful to the US and its imperial partners. Our governments are only mad that it's being undiplomatic and proud of its war crimes.
>>2417539I am literally picking up a quill right now, fag.
seriously, stay hydrated and chill out. >>2428486It really says something that the weirdo NSN autist thinks that's "a lot". The poor fag's never been in an actual social movement before.
We have
secondary-tier Trotskyist orgs holding events bigger than that. The Nonce Network aren't even a paper tiger, they're a paper fukken poodle, hollow underneath their online "optics" fluff.
>>2426138l. mao
>>2439399I really love the pathological, malignant narcissism here: head of governments of other countries that have no obligations of loyalty in any way, shape or form to IsraHell are somewhat
traitors by reason of just putting up a bit of theatre about maybe doing a platonic recognition of a Palestinian state which doesn't exist in practice and wouldn't do anything factual to stop the genocide in Gaza.
>>2440998uygha it doesn't even represent its own party let alone unions or guilds
>>2441019ah yes as carlos marks famously said "influencing broader culture will change the material conditions".
>>2447075 (>citing OP post >shiggy)
My assessment from looking around and talking to anti-Reclaim lads:
Fizzle, but act like it will sizzle and stamp that fucking ember out early.Facebook
>I hesitate to go off facebook event numbers because in my experience they mean absolutely nothing. The 300,000 strong March for Humanity had 2.4k on fb say they were going. Plus, I fully expect the March for Australia social media to be botted to hell given how this campaign started. Nonetheless, fb has Ade, Bris, Can, Per, Mel and Syd events with around 500-700 each marked as "Going" and about double as "Interested". So I'm preparing for the possibility of it being up to 1000 cookers in some cities.Specific aspects:
>horribly organised GRASSROOTS and ORGANIC>various state organizers have been confirmed as pro-violence white nationalists with links to NSN (Bec Freedom) or open neo-Nazis (Bender). I don't know how much their audience hear of this, but Sky News reported Bec apologising for her pro-violence comments and various big conservative/anti-vaxx e-celebs have called to boycott the march ("Big Choccy", Joel Jammal, Triccy Triddy).>also it's on the same time as the annual Sydney Marathon lolPrior cases
>These things generally get like a few dozen people. Conservative events consistently fizzle. Let's keep it that way.As of the 25th, counterrallies have been organised in Bris, Can, Mel, Per and Syd. Syd has the concert one which is actually going to counterprotest and join the Hyde Park PAG one later anyway, so pick that one.
>picinb4 someone gets fined for nazi symbolism lol
Been getting good feedback when leafleting the upcoming rallies tomorrow. Did get one lib saying "I'm in support but I'm not big on conflict" so I suggested they go to the passive Hyde Park march instead of the Alfred Park counter-protest. But ffs I yelled internally. Conflict comes to us whether we like it or not. Now is always the easiest time to stamp out the embers.
>>2450152No worries, and good thing you mentioned them because it does often slip under the radar that a ranking member of their group is into esoteric ToB crap.
>>2451769First I've heard of a Melbourne one, got any sources for me to look into?
>>2453215>The shadowy March for Australia movement is calling on protesters to “take our country back” and “stop mass immigration” with rallies planned for Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide and Canberra. Extremism expert Dr Kaz Ross says while many attendees might be well intentioned the event is likely to be hijacked by far-right sympathisers. i was wondering how long it would be before those marches from Europe would end up being re-created in Australia.
Kinda begs the question how long the multiculturalist neolibs can hold out here, because fundamentally the same main problem Europe, the UK and Canada has with multiculturalism (no party ever going to an election on the promise of increasing immigration rates and winning) is the same in Australia, then to make things worse the 30 year long mining boom means mass migration was never necessary to begin with, so its undemocratic AND based on a lie, whereas the euros actually did need some form of immigration so its undemocratic nature could atleast be rationalised away
>>2453215there was a 4 corners report that was sickeningly sympathetic to the nazis and their families that had a photo of either the greensborough place or an earlier incarnation of it. there was a channel 9 report that doxxed. the ringleaders. @whiteroseau has a ton of public domain research. @slackbastard keeps tabs on them too.
they wanted to buy a farm out in ballarat, but I don't know if they followed through on that because they are clearly siphoning off the donations they solicit on telegram for personal expenses.
Reminder to go to the counterrallies on today.
>>2454269Yeah I'd heard about the Ballarat properties they were trying to buy and I check out White Rose Soc and Andy often. Was the Greensborough place just a groomhouse where they drink raw milk, or an actual agricultural community (like a kibbutz). Because the second one is what I thought that comment was suggesting and it seemed unlikely.
>>2453537>Kinda begs the question how long the multiculturalist neolibs can hold out hereForever
>because fundamentally the same main problem Europe, the UK and Canada has with multiculturalism (no party ever going to an election on the promise of increasing immigration rates and winning) is the same in AustraliaThere was a bit of an lol moment a month ago where albo raised the international student intake by 25k, even the plebbitors were pointing out he waited until after the election to do this.
>>2454681 (me)
also what kind of boomer takes their asian wife to a fucking nsn rally?
sewer:
"Today we're gonna rally in good faith and without masks!"<nek minute*at least half a dozen nsn tards assault Avi Yemini's security guard on camera*
oops
https://xcancel.com/AltMediaWatch/status/1961969919895191907>>2454920/auspol/ officially stands with palisten and against lemanom!!
signed
/auspost/
>>2456265>ABCFirst article I've seen so far to even mention the pseudo-Germanic runes, despite so many having pictures of the megaphone.
Absolutely disgusting ignorance in mainstream media.
>redditI gotta say, it's a horrible look but a fair point that someone can just walk up and have a photo taken. Jordies really should be recognizing that emblem but I can give benefit of the doubt for that. Not like it's a fukken swastika.
But if jordies doesn't nip it in the bud and say "didn't know the cunt and hope he gets curbstomped", then fuck 'em.
this kind of chaos would be ripe ground for fascism anywhere else, but I reckon the ultimate result is going to be a further entrenchment of Albanese's mandate to lead. there were more gronks than I expected but they're still nothing compared to the broader popular movement for palestine.
>>2456265>>2456268right now jordies is downplaying the NSN involvement, but he's also trying to sheepdog the ignorant "post cronulla yumcha" bogans into labor (arguably a decent objective). it is what it is, jordan is not his fans.
we got here from fallout from howard stirring up xenophobic racism against refugees, while also doubling skilled migration to get cheap economic growth and tear down the unions. it's not _only_ a bunch of gronks getting brainwashed by fascist propaganda from the yanks.
labor is not showing any leadership in regards to stopping xenophobia, or getting us out of american imperialism. they are pushing thru cost-benefit evaluations per employment sector for skilled migration. the gaaaardian libs are opposing labors reforms, and the capitalist press is amplifying the gronks to run cover for the ruling class.
>>2456271what a dickhead! key question is: did he accept that turnabout is fair play or have a fukken teary?
>>2459380are they getting any more than a couple days in lockup? that fake ass, pig ass, sewer rat never did a stretch for bashing that black security guard outside channel 9 despite being caught in 4k. never did a stretch after bashing those hikers. how good of a lawyer do you actually need to record yourself doing the hitler flounce saying "I am a white supremacist terrorist leader" thousands of times and plead multiple hate crimes down to basically nothing with parole conditions over your head?
is the intelligence he offers even worth letting the bastard be such a public nuisance?
>>2461371You gotta fucking laugh at the "prospect of rehabilitation is good" crap.
Get a fuckin expert witness to outline the cult they run.
>>2474949If you wanna do proper accelerationism, you infiltrate and subvert
take over Law Enforcements to have the police turn a blind eye to you illegal activities
Seize Small Towns to act as base in which you run it as a Mafia/Cartel
Don't just commit random terror attacks, they may succeed and have a High death count but will destroy your movements reputation and potentially kill it for good
be a Intelligent Terrifying Accelerationist not a Dumb VIolent one
>>2474946What part of the video do you
actually disagree with?
Pingers clearly isn't talking about random terror acts, nor even telling someone to commit PotD.
I think another important note which made Luigi special was that the target was one which actually made for great socialist propaganda, because fucking no-one likes healthcare CEOs. Contrast this with the assassinations of state leaders, royalty and police chiefs in the golden age of PotD, and contrast it with Kirk. These targets alienate workers overall (regardless of whether a portion of them support it).
It's not a strategy for success, but selective agreeable assassinations could well be an effective propaganda tactic, in the same vein that Free Breakfast for Children was.
>>2474946>>2474949the video is so choppy I'm concerned it might be a misleading edit. I'm not a fan of saltyjordies, but I wouldn't assume he'd be advocating for violence.
in the manifesto marx wrote "we have no compassion and ask no compassion from you". there's no point making excuses for violent individuals and desperate actions in the same way it's futile to try to find solace in the official reports and rulings that are dutifully published in the wake of colonial or fascist violence.
I don't believe that the popular ressentiment that mr. mangione repesents to yanks actually exists in australia. we're getting fucked over but in ways that are largely imperceptible to average people:
> schools being gutted< but grammar school is more affordable now> medicare shrinking, hospitals being sold< but I actually save money going private> mineral wealth being stolen, barely any economic planning for the future< FIFO paychecks> racist media that lies by implication and omission< I don't read murdoch I read fairfax< I'm not being influenced I'm there for sports/celebs> toothless unions< but I'm on the award< but I need my cash in hand job< but I'm special< fifo paychecks> no treaty, black deaths in custody, vandalism of sacred sites< but the negligible cost of a few days lead time or another form is completely unacceptable< but the news told me they want police interventionsimporting seppo problems and seppo politics is why the Liberals are fucked for another two decades. please nobody commit the same fatal mistakes as those idiots.
>>2477325>I don't believe that the popular ressentiment that mr. mangione repesents to yanks actually exists in australiaWatch the documentary
Sicko. Our health system, for all its problems, is a miracle compared to theirs.
I can't think of anything comparable here. I can't think of any person you could kill that would get cross-spectrum support. Maybe Gina Rinehart, probably not? You wouldn't get that celebration from killing a land investor or a shoddy builder.
>>2477544the hancocks are only in the media for being messy CUBs: daddy's affair with the housekeeper, and gina's court battle with the other nepo babies over the family trust. gina's cooker politics never even rate a mention.
there might be space for a neo-unionist chauvanism: using pushback from the gaza genocide, war on terror, and the spread of hitlerism/trumpism amongst australia's patrons to educate people about how the old unions secured our standard of living and how neoliberal imperialism is eroding them at home and abroad.
we're somewhat snookered by a complete lack of materialist and historical education amongst middle australia. most people I talk to don't even know who John Pilger is.
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