>>2371516It still sucks as a flag
>>2371519Yeah, the flag is overrated. I don't like the Christian symbol.
>>2381332It’s better than the union jack in the corner with a bunch of stars
albo put a south african jewish ghoul in charge of investigating antisemitism and guiding policy and to the surprise of literally nobody she's laundering israeli zionist talking points and foreign policy objectives as independant findings. really love the constant slow-burn corruption we inherited from being a neoliberal former colony.
AUSSIES! De-cuck yourselves from Anglo-American cock and become independent! The Southern Hemisphere needs you!
The South Africa-Mauritius-Australia will be unbeatable!
We will have our own space program
Our own nuclear weapons
Our own Olympics
Wake up and we will bury imperialism!
>>2371516Not an Aussie but that flag looks racist as fuck. It should probably be banned.
What's the major left wing party in Australia?
>>2387201The internet doesn't even know if I'm Australian. GL,IB7P.
>>2392906It's a good flag.
But it's a different flag with a different meaning.
>>2393143>left wingNot a real concept. Learn to use specific words, comrade.
>>2393503NTA, but that was a good video, thank you.
In the spirit of its line of argument, what material/class interest do the following parties represent?
>Labor>Greens >>2393503Stop spammkng your garbage video. Youve been doing this for at least two years.
>>2396683Not mine (that lad doesn't even sound Australian), and I'll stop it when people no longer need it. I pray for the day I can post PDFs instead of Basic Concept 101 videos
>>2400332why did you post this?
>>2408739Not sure what quality you were expecting from something called "Radical Online Leftist Pipeline Podcast".
>I don't know why I keep listening to these deadshit trotsI know Jordan is with a trot group, what about the others? Tom definitely wouldn't be. And plenty of the stuff you said are very far from trot positions that even CAlt probably wouldn't say them.
><israel is never going to change without external pressureWhy do you think a Zionist project will change much at all? The state admitting there's a genocide is a win for anti-Zionists, but isn't going to do much directly about the Zionist invasion of Palestine. It's mostly useful as opportunity at agitation by calling out their delay, hypocrisy, and that we were right since Oct 7 and earlier.
>constantly shitting on australia [snip]It's vital to end the state that rules over us, the Commonwealth of Australia. Australia (as opposed to Australians) should be ruthlessly shat on.
You're definitely right on some of the other crap, especially the nonsense orange lines at the end. I really hope they didn't imply those because that would be embarrassing.
>>2413410Australia is a cringe country, you're expected to be a bogan dickhead or you're a 'gronk' or 'ethnic'.
>>2413410what is he listening to?
>>2413419AI translation of a Hitler speech
It's not uncommon to encounter it on social media algorithms if it detects your political persuasion
History time!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(New_South_Wales)Take a guess at their ideology before you click.
I wonder what will happen with the Sydney Harbour Bridge protest tomorrow. With a bit of luck it will have a decent turnout.
>>2414677Amazing work comrades. Spot me there on the bridge!
Mad respect Australians. Absolutely massive march despite the pouring rain.
>>2414677For real, I thought the organisers were being optimistic with their tens-of-thousands call. I'd been to some of the biggest PAG rallies before and they were big but not massive like this. Didn't help that their $$$Fascbook$$$ announcements had only two hundred reactions.
My mate said the rear end of the line started moving about an hour after the march started. Media are calling it in the hundreds of thousands, we're talking a few percent of the Sydney population going out in pissing rain.
It was interesting to see many of the more conservative unions and Labor Right are now deciding oh yes we support this now. Pricks.
>>2415681
This situtation only happened because dumb police gave contradictory instructions in the first place.
Does anyone have good news sources for Aotearoa / New Zealand
>>2415684What instructions? (I didn't pay attention to cops stuff and couldn't hear the announcement or get a text.)
I did hear some people online blame them from going south->north instead of north->south, leading to a bottleneck.
ABC reports:
>The acting assistant commissioner Adam Johnson said: “I can honestly say in my 35 years of policing, that was a perilous situation. I’ve never seen a more perilous situation.”
I've been more concerned at concerts. There was enough room to dance on the bridge and no-one was rushing to the end.
I was telling a friend yesterday, I'm glad so many people came out and saw the ridiculous police reaction. Hopefully that gives them perspective next time the cops call something dangerous.
>>2415684Exactly, police created the perilous situation and did nothing to help co-ordinate the crowd. I was in the middle of such sense crowd and everyone was so confused what was happening, police standing on the side and not telling us anything. If they wanted to direct us they should've had some megaphones to give directions, they said fucking nothing. Only the fucking stupid helicopter blasting announcements which no-one could even understand
big well done to all the people in sydney. israel won't survive scruitiny like this, it's going to cease to exist.
i am glad, unironically, keep it up sydnians you sick cunts.
>>2417451Noone thought a 2 state solution to South Africa, allowing the white supremacist ethnostate to continue to exist, was an acceptable option. Why is a 2 state solution to Palestine considered acceptable
>>2417451you aren't signing shit
>>2417451Were you seriously expecting anything different? Its not like the Commonwealth of Australia is going to go any further than neutrality against an allied, honorary-Western country. Anyone who thinks our governments will ever support a one-state, non-Zionist Palestine is delusional and ignorant, as ignorant as someone who thinks we can just ask the government nicely to give the land back to the indigenous peoples.
The Zionist Regime is materially useful to the US and its imperial partners. Our governments are only mad that it's being undiplomatic and proud of its war crimes.
>>2417539I am literally picking up a quill right now, fag.
seriously, stay hydrated and chill out. Fuck, there's a lot more NSN around these days, eh?
>>2426072They climb out into the daylight every few years, cause some media storm then hide again like cowards, not convinced there's any more than there's ever been
>>2428486It really says something that the weirdo NSN autist thinks that's "a lot". The poor fag's never been in an actual social movement before.
We have
secondary-tier Trotskyist orgs holding events bigger than that. The Nonce Network aren't even a paper tiger, they're a paper fukken poodle, hollow underneath their online "optics" fluff.
>>2426138l. mao
>>2439399I really love the pathological, malignant narcissism here: head of governments of other countries that have no obligations of loyalty in any way, shape or form to IsraHell are somewhat
traitors by reason of just putting up a bit of theatre about maybe doing a platonic recognition of a Palestinian state which doesn't exist in practice and wouldn't do anything factual to stop the genocide in Gaza.
The Labor government is an example of actually existing social corporatism.
>>2437626>hollow underneath their online "optics" fluffin terms of influencing the broader culture, online is all that matters
>>2440998uygha it doesn't even represent its own party let alone unions or guilds
>>2441019ah yes as carlos marks famously said "influencing broader culture will change the material conditions".
>>2441020The productivity summit is a clear example of a tripartite system.
>>2371516So what's happening with this March for Australia shit? Fizzle or sizzle?
>>2447075 (>citing OP post >shiggy)
My assessment from looking around and talking to anti-Reclaim lads:
Fizzle, but act like it will sizzle and stamp that fucking ember out early.Facebook
>I hesitate to go off facebook event numbers because in my experience they mean absolutely nothing. The 300,000 strong March for Humanity had 2.4k on fb say they were going. Plus, I fully expect the March for Australia social media to be botted to hell given how this campaign started. Nonetheless, fb has Ade, Bris, Can, Per, Mel and Syd events with around 500-700 each marked as "Going" and about double as "Interested". So I'm preparing for the possibility of it being up to 1000 cookers in some cities.Specific aspects:
>horribly organised GRASSROOTS and ORGANIC>various state organizers have been confirmed as pro-violence white nationalists with links to NSN (Bec Freedom) or open neo-Nazis (Bender). I don't know how much their audience hear of this, but Sky News reported Bec apologising for her pro-violence comments and various big conservative/anti-vaxx e-celebs have called to boycott the march ("Big Choccy", Joel Jammal, Triccy Triddy).>also it's on the same time as the annual Sydney Marathon lolPrior cases
>These things generally get like a few dozen people. Conservative events consistently fizzle. Let's keep it that way.As of the 25th, counterrallies have been organised in Bris, Can, Mel, Per and Syd. Syd has the concert one which is actually going to counterprotest and join the Hyde Park PAG one later anyway, so pick that one.
the iran accusations are straight up retarded and don't make any sense…
>conveniently timed anti semitic attacks
>provide cover to push through new anti-democratic laws
>whoops they're all fake
>they were perpetrated by international criminals
>description suits the netanyahu reigieme alot better than tehran
<six months later
>move to recognise palestine
>netanyahu throws a shitfit
>AIJAC pressing backbenchers
>ayyy turns out we were lying about those fake antisemitic terror attacks, they were real and carried out by Iran not "criminals"
>ignore the convenient timing of the announcements
>ignore the bootlicking of israel
>ignore that we could have pointed the finger at iran the first timw we "solved" the case but chose not to for no reason
>ignore that the IRGC has nothing to gain from these attacks, everything to lose
>ignore that israel has staged infinitely more false flag attacks on diaspora jews than iran
bob carr is the only bloke in labor that isn't a lying dog.
>>2440985apparently their former leader cameron brodie hall was in Temple ov Blood(Run by a Fed Informant) which is a nexion(offshoot of Order of nine angels, Tob also inspired 764 and published(with Fbi Funding btw) books endorsing the r*pe of chidlren, so that explains the NSN's Pedophillia
>>2450101Cameron Brodie-Hall was leader of the South Australia state cell. And while it has relevance, it doesn't explain the NSN's systematic pedophilia advocacy and cult behaviour. This isn't some outside infiltration as neo-Nazis want to claim. Consider core Nazi themes like their obsession about birthrates and their open misogyny. That leads directly to their child marriage/sex slavery belief. We can't give the fringe esoteric minority credit for that.
>>2450134Thanks for clarification, I don't know much about Nsn
>>2426138this is accurate bc one anon is reading an empty fucking book that has no words in it
>>2450134they also have a creepy little nazi kibbutz in greensborough, outer melbourne. guarantee that's gonna turn into centrepoint on centrelink in no time.
>picinb4 someone gets fined for nazi symbolism lol
Been getting good feedback when leafleting the upcoming rallies tomorrow. Did get one lib saying "I'm in support but I'm not big on conflict" so I suggested they go to the passive Hyde Park march instead of the Alfred Park counter-protest. But ffs I yelled internally. Conflict comes to us whether we like it or not. Now is always the easiest time to stamp out the embers.
>>2450152No worries, and good thing you mentioned them because it does often slip under the radar that a ranking member of their group is into esoteric ToB crap.
>>2451769First I've heard of a Melbourne one, got any sources for me to look into?
>>2453215>The shadowy March for Australia movement is calling on protesters to “take our country back” and “stop mass immigration” with rallies planned for Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide and Canberra. Extremism expert Dr Kaz Ross says while many attendees might be well intentioned the event is likely to be hijacked by far-right sympathisers. i was wondering how long it would be before those marches from Europe would end up being re-created in Australia.
Kinda begs the question how long the multiculturalist neolibs can hold out here, because fundamentally the same main problem Europe, the UK and Canada has with multiculturalism (no party ever going to an election on the promise of increasing immigration rates and winning) is the same in Australia, then to make things worse the 30 year long mining boom means mass migration was never necessary to begin with, so its undemocratic AND based on a lie, whereas the euros actually did need some form of immigration so its undemocratic nature could atleast be rationalised away
>>2453215there was a 4 corners report that was sickeningly sympathetic to the nazis and their families that had a photo of either the greensborough place or an earlier incarnation of it. there was a channel 9 report that doxxed. the ringleaders. @whiteroseau has a ton of public domain research. @slackbastard keeps tabs on them too.
they wanted to buy a farm out in ballarat, but I don't know if they followed through on that because they are clearly siphoning off the donations they solicit on telegram for personal expenses.
Reminder to go to the counterrallies on today.
>>2454269Yeah I'd heard about the Ballarat properties they were trying to buy and I check out White Rose Soc and Andy often. Was the Greensborough place just a groomhouse where they drink raw milk, or an actual agricultural community (like a kibbutz). Because the second one is what I thought that comment was suggesting and it seemed unlikely.
>>2454285they've got women and kids living there, and boneheads on meth and steroids filtering thru so it's progressing past grooming male teens into extremist violence and likely turning into a DV hotspot.
>>2453537>Kinda begs the question how long the multiculturalist neolibs can hold out hereForever
>because fundamentally the same main problem Europe, the UK and Canada has with multiculturalism (no party ever going to an election on the promise of increasing immigration rates and winning) is the same in AustraliaThere was a bit of an lol moment a month ago where albo raised the international student intake by 25k, even the plebbitors were pointing out he waited until after the election to do this.
yo all these fascists look deep fried yo. get off the glass barbie, get over your divorce, and get yourself right and off the streets.
>>2454681 (me)
also what kind of boomer takes their asian wife to a fucking nsn rally?
>>2454685>also what kind of boomer takes their asian wife to a fucking nsn rally?A working class one that thinks he’s at Cronulla riots 2.0 instead of a nazi rally
Looks like the rally was a fizzer. Greatest shame that we didn't get to see Avi Yemini and the NSN attack each other.
sewer:
"Today we're gonna rally in good faith and without masks!"<nek minute*at least half a dozen nsn tards assault Avi Yemini's security guard on camera*
oops
https://xcancel.com/AltMediaWatch/status/1961969919895191907>>2454780>hasn't been one day since the nazi rallies and already we have cunts on leftypol posting videos trying to make lebbos look badSMDH
>>2454920/auspol/ officially stands with palisten and against lemanom!!
signed
/auspost/
>>2454843this is the silver lining I was looking for bro. thanks lege.
>>2456265>ABCFirst article I've seen so far to even mention the pseudo-Germanic runes, despite so many having pictures of the megaphone.
Absolutely disgusting ignorance in mainstream media.
>redditI gotta say, it's a horrible look but a fair point that someone can just walk up and have a photo taken. Jordies really should be recognizing that emblem but I can give benefit of the doubt for that. Not like it's a fukken swastika.
But if jordies doesn't nip it in the bud and say "didn't know the cunt and hope he gets curbstomped", then fuck 'em.
this kind of chaos would be ripe ground for fascism anywhere else, but I reckon the ultimate result is going to be a further entrenchment of Albanese's mandate to lead. there were more gronks than I expected but they're still nothing compared to the broader popular movement for palestine.
>>2456265>>2456268right now jordies is downplaying the NSN involvement, but he's also trying to sheepdog the ignorant "post cronulla yumcha" bogans into labor (arguably a decent objective). it is what it is, jordan is not his fans.
we got here from fallout from howard stirring up xenophobic racism against refugees, while also doubling skilled migration to get cheap economic growth and tear down the unions. it's not _only_ a bunch of gronks getting brainwashed by fascist propaganda from the yanks.
labor is not showing any leadership in regards to stopping xenophobia, or getting us out of american imperialism. they are pushing thru cost-benefit evaluations per employment sector for skilled migration. the gaaaardian libs are opposing labors reforms, and the capitalist press is amplifying the gronks to run cover for the ruling class.
>>2456271what a dickhead! key question is: did he accept that turnabout is fair play or have a fukken teary?
>>2454920They haven’t produced enough new memes for another season of Fat Pizza so fuck em.
>“This isn’t about me. It’s about the other people in the community who Nazis target – like multicultural people, LGBTIQA+ people, First Peoples, and Jews.
Commiesisters forgotten again.
>>2457565no: they're big and they're cheesy.
>>2459380rookie mistake. Always take a couple of books in your bag if you might be doing anything that will get you nicked.
>>2459380are they getting any more than a couple days in lockup? that fake ass, pig ass, sewer rat never did a stretch for bashing that black security guard outside channel 9 despite being caught in 4k. never did a stretch after bashing those hikers. how good of a lawyer do you actually need to record yourself doing the hitler flounce saying "I am a white supremacist terrorist leader" thousands of times and plead multiple hate crimes down to basically nothing with parole conditions over your head?
is the intelligence he offers even worth letting the bastard be such a public nuisance?
>>2461371You gotta fucking laugh at the "prospect of rehabilitation is good" crap.
Get a fuckin expert witness to outline the cult they run.
"Hello my name is Federal Agent Jorden, Pls commit Acts of Violence that is revolutionary, I would never commit crimes as I am a fe.. a Important revolutionary, pls die or go to jail for the fe.. for the Revolution, Thanks Idiot" - Purper Pingers
Reminder: if someone tells you to commit violent acts they either enato you dead or in jail or are a fed who wants you in jail
>>2474949If you wanna do proper accelerationism, you infiltrate and subvert
take over Law Enforcements to have the police turn a blind eye to you illegal activities
Seize Small Towns to act as base in which you run it as a Mafia/Cartel
Don't just commit random terror attacks, they may succeed and have a High death count but will destroy your movements reputation and potentially kill it for good
be a Intelligent Terrifying Accelerationist not a Dumb VIolent one
>>2474946What part of the video do you
actually disagree with?
Pingers clearly isn't talking about random terror acts, nor even telling someone to commit PotD.
I think another important note which made Luigi special was that the target was one which actually made for great socialist propaganda, because fucking no-one likes healthcare CEOs. Contrast this with the assassinations of state leaders, royalty and police chiefs in the golden age of PotD, and contrast it with Kirk. These targets alienate workers overall (regardless of whether a portion of them support it).
It's not a strategy for success, but selective agreeable assassinations could well be an effective propaganda tactic, in the same vein that Free Breakfast for Children was.
>>2474946>>2474949the video is so choppy I'm concerned it might be a misleading edit. I'm not a fan of saltyjordies, but I wouldn't assume he'd be advocating for violence.
in the manifesto marx wrote "we have no compassion and ask no compassion from you". there's no point making excuses for violent individuals and desperate actions in the same way it's futile to try to find solace in the official reports and rulings that are dutifully published in the wake of colonial or fascist violence.
I don't believe that the popular ressentiment that mr. mangione repesents to yanks actually exists in australia. we're getting fucked over but in ways that are largely imperceptible to average people:
> schools being gutted< but grammar school is more affordable now> medicare shrinking, hospitals being sold< but I actually save money going private> mineral wealth being stolen, barely any economic planning for the future< FIFO paychecks> racist media that lies by implication and omission< I don't read murdoch I read fairfax< I'm not being influenced I'm there for sports/celebs> toothless unions< but I'm on the award< but I need my cash in hand job< but I'm special< fifo paychecks> no treaty, black deaths in custody, vandalism of sacred sites< but the negligible cost of a few days lead time or another form is completely unacceptable< but the news told me they want police interventionsimporting seppo problems and seppo politics is why the Liberals are fucked for another two decades. please nobody commit the same fatal mistakes as those idiots.
>>2477325>I don't believe that the popular ressentiment that mr. mangione repesents to yanks actually exists in australiaWatch the documentary
Sicko. Our health system, for all its problems, is a miracle compared to theirs.
I can't think of anything comparable here. I can't think of any person you could kill that would get cross-spectrum support. Maybe Gina Rinehart, probably not? You wouldn't get that celebration from killing a land investor or a shoddy builder.
>>2477544the hancocks are only in the media for being messy CUBs: daddy's affair with the housekeeper, and gina's court battle with the other nepo babies over the family trust. gina's cooker politics never even rate a mention.
there might be space for a neo-unionist chauvanism: using pushback from the gaza genocide, war on terror, and the spread of hitlerism/trumpism amongst australia's patrons to educate people about how the old unions secured our standard of living and how neoliberal imperialism is eroding them at home and abroad.
we're somewhat snookered by a complete lack of materialist and historical education amongst middle australia. most people I talk to don't even know who John Pilger is.
took a trip to vietnam and I no longer feel like I'm taking crazy pills. they have problems like every society but they're dealing with them, effectively. there are new schools being built everywhere I look when our education budget gets blown on adding new lanes to grammar school swimming pools. new industries are being fostered in regional areas when in australia the last four generations have been uprooted to the cities. I open up the news and existential threats like climate change aren't being swept under the rug: they have specific targets, timelines, responsible ministries, and review dates and criteria. not a fucking single wasted line about pub tests or culture wars.
they are so fucking happy, and social, its unreal.
they think australia is more advanced, I don't know if they understand how broken our politics is, how concentrated wealth is here, and how low our economic complexity is. I get the impression the public of both nations are preoccupied with how things are now and not how they're going to be in 30 years.
>>2491130Vietnam was one a vibrant and beautiful place before it was utterly destroyed by the United States in one of the greatest acts of genocide in human history and turned into a slave colony for US business interests where children in sweatshops sew Reebok shoes together for 10 cents an hour.
>>2491243that's a gross oversimplification. their gdp is split half and half between public and private sectors. with multiple primary and secondary industries.
the textiles industry has progressed pretty far from what naomi klein described in the shock doctrine: surplus production capacity is being used by independent vietnamese brands that retain 100% of the royalties (dico being the most well known internationally). vietnam is already a fashion shenzen that designers go to to polish designs for production.
even crazier they have a car manufacturer: vinfast. they make electric cars, bikes, and aircraft. we really need to hold labor's feet to the fire on this one: toyota and ford fucked off, and holden packed up. still can't comprehend that there's no more commodores.
>>2491243>Vietnam was one a vibrant and beautiful place before it was utterly destroyed by the United States It was full of frenchmen.
>>2491130Sure our future is fucked but currently if you have a full time job here you are better off than the vast vast majority of Vietnamese.
>>2491971you're missing my point, which is about the future and not the present.
I'm not sure I see yours: vietnam has been subjected to decades of colonial slavery, genocide, and harsh sanctions. the only crisis in australia is that it's full of racist fuckwits.
Thoughts about turning Australia in a Republic?
>>2493755interesting you bring up the police strikes. the police union used to operate out of trades hall in victoria. the reason why they left is uniquely australian:
> the socialist unions let activists use meeting rooms in trades hall for free> indigenous rights are completely fucked in australia> session is booked to dicuss black deaths in custody> police union hears about this< shit! covering up black deaths in custody is our only job!> they call the trades hall council to protest> trades hall council actions their protest and cancels the meeting< nobody can find out about this> session is booked for a weekend> everyone shows up> booking is missing> nobody can find the key to the room> nobody told them about the coppers throwing a shitfit> but this is australia so fuckups like this are normal< fucking typical ay? she'll be right> run the session in the lobby, it goes OK> police union is furious< oi wtf, this is discrimination, we're suing, and leaving> trades hall council is confused< we literally cancelled it tho> police union drops the dispute and leaves before the whole shitshow makes the papersup until this point the wharfies, the labourers, and the coppers that bashed them shared the same building for union matters. can't imagine how fucking awkward that would have been.
>>2493755No. Pigs might be paid by capital but their surplus labour isn’t appropriated as profit.
>>2493755Police officers are proletarians. They are (generally speaking) class traitors, because a law enforcement agent is beholden to enforce bourgeois law, and so unless they are a double agent or until they resign, they are a powerful counterrevolutionary force.
While they have a material interest in supporting capitalist regime, I do believe that the military, police and other state actors, along with other classcucks like neo-Nazis, are not inherently some lost cause and have proven able to flip. That doesn't mean it is (always) wise to attempt this, or that all are capable of flipping. But the bottom line is they are valuable for their knowledge, skills, and having one less enemy to fight, so it's important for us to cautiously have doors open for them to explore.
Interviews of modern (US) military who flipped to socialism:
https://soundcloud.com/eyesleft (check the Wake Ups series, including a Green Beret)
Interviews of neo-Nazis who flipped or deradicalised:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7DUJbRJIKYI'd be interested to see a police officer one, all I know of is this article by an anonymous author claiming to be an ex-cop:
Confessions Of A Former Bastard Cop>>2493758Fuck the monarchy, but really, I don't see how it would help (yet). Federation just empowered our own bourgeoisie to perform regional imperialism. I'd say the US has more real power over us than the UK.
Did you know?: Bullying works.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/social-suicide-uni-liberal-club-laments-failure-to-attract-new-members-as-political-party-taints-image-20251008-p5n0x8.html>“There are a great deal many students at University of Melbourne who are interested in what we do at the club … they say, ‘We like what you do and we might even, to a point, have a centre-right ideology but … to be affiliated with anything Liberal would be social suicide,’” Bowie said. It was particularly true for female students, he added.
>“I have had a few friends who have been interested in joining but have been hesitant due to this,” [Ruby Corbett] said.>It didn’t prevent her signing up but, “after I became more involved with the MULC [the club], I’ve had friends basically demonstrate this intolerance with me and basically disown me”.
>Corbett said the party was often wrongly equated as a “far-right extremist group”, especially on the politically polarised university campus grounds.>“The Victorian left-wing bubble wants an enemy to project their own fears and derangement onto, and the Liberal Party is their choice,” she said.tldr people dont want to hang out with sentient garbage
>>2511447>The commemorations came as Victoria Police investigated a graffiti attack on a billboard in Melbourne, which was daubed with a pro-Hamas slogan.Oh my god! A graffiti ATTACK!! This is horrible!
https://redantcollective.org/2025/10/20/an-account-of-the-police-riot-to-protect-fascists-in-melbourne-naarm/
>cops do everything they can to provoke a confrontation >anarchildren provoke them >cops bash the shit out of protestors in responseFucksake why can’t you retards be normal
>>2387213you americans are annoying as fuck.
>>2387202but then we can't be in Eurovision…
The organisers of the counter-protests, including pseudo-left groups such as Socialist Alternative, have sought to channel opposition back behind the Labor government and the official political establishment. The Sydney counter-protest was endorsed by both Young Labor and the Young Greens.
In reality, Labor is centrally responsible for the growth of the far-right. It is scapegoating immigrants and refugees for the housing and social crisis. And by inflicting social pain and the pro-business agenda it is creating the conditions for far-right forces to make an appeal.
Labor is also overseeing a far-reaching onslaught on basic democratic rights, centred on its attempts to criminalise mass opposition to the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and its own complicity.
The assault on the right to protest was on display in Melbourne. Police have accused some members of the counter-protest of initiating violent clashes. Footage posted to social media, however, shows Victoria Police officers indiscriminately deploying capsicum spray at crowds of retreating protesters. Police also used flashbang grenades and there are reports of at least one protester being shot with a rubber bullet.
After the rally, Victoria Police Commander Wayne Cheeseman gave a frothing press conference, denouncing purported “left-wing” violence. Prominent comments in the press, including the Melbourne Age have demanded the curtailment or abolition of the right to protest.
That underscores the point raised by WSWS and Socialist Equality Party campaigners at the counter-protests. We explained that the rise of the far-right, as well as growing authoritarianism by governments of all stripes, is the response of the ruling elite to mounting social and political opposition amid a breakdown of capitalism.
The fight against fascism requires the independent mobilisation of the working class, in opposition to the entire political establishment, including the Labor governments, based on a socialist program.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/10/21/rxbd-o21.html>>2529915the rank and file in labor are good kids. the caucus is fucked. there's no good party for people with serious political ambition so they land in young labor or some shit tier libtard NGO on the basis that Labor can form government, and lobbying is better than working for the greens.
It's up to saltyjordies to turn the Victorian Socialists (and their franchises) into a political force, but I'm concerned it's going to be another infighting ridden shitshow because he's a millenial and a trot, making him 4X as prone to self sabotage.
>>2532657One of these dudes interrupted our reading group and yapped about the platypus reading circle for like 10 minutes and left.
Also I think they're Trots.
Go on dole. That is what I am doing.
I worked for government for like 6 months and realised the government does not give a shit about how many people are abusing their services; it's mainly welfare fraud they care about which costs them millions and is in the hands of the very few.
In my country of Australia, there are more people on JobSeeker Payments than ever. But there is also absolutely nothing stopping a communist party from committing welfare fraud by putting in false applications in some fake person's name and collecting it from an ATM.
>>2532657That such a piece was published a year after the beginning of the genocide, with tens or even hundreds of thousands of Palestinians murdered, brands Platypus as a group that is supporting a 21st-century Holocaust as it takes place.
That has included a modern-day equivalent of Holocaust denial, with Platypus founder Chris Cutrone having ridiculed claims of a genocide in February, declaring it was “not at all clear” that ethnic cleansing was “the current Israeli intent.” Cutrone made those statements months after Israeli leaders had repeatedly declared their aim is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians.
It is not only Palestinian resistance that is targeted by Platypus. In its October 7 anniversary piece, the group tars the masses of workers and young people who have opposed the atrocities, including in the US and the other imperialist centres, as dupes who are associating themselves with “antisemitism,” “reactionary Islamism,” “misogyny” and “fascist morality.”
That is a slander and a justification for the police-state crackdown that has been waged against opposition to the genocide, by the Biden administration in the US and affiliated imperialist governments internationally. It is a signal that Platypus will join with the incoming Trump administration in an even more frenzied attack on anti-war opposition.
The positions of Platypus are so openly pro-imperialist and right-wing, it is no exaggeration to say that they could have come from the US State Department itself or the Australian Labor government.
>>2532861unimelb is for rich cunts, and rich cunts from overseas. makes sense they'd make a faker socialist group than salt. they can't have an affiliation with any socialist party in australia because none of them are zionist.
there is one group they could be from: there used to be a zionist socialist youth group in melbs that did eco activism and learned about indigenous culture and went camping and stuff like that. real innocent, except they were founded by and dedicated to jabotinsky the butcher.
can't figure out what the name was because they've disappeared from the ZFA website but I'm pretty sure they disaffiliated 6 months into the genocide when they got a good look at naked zionism because they stopped updating their website. platypus might be a new chapter of the same movement.
>>2532898>can't figure out what the name was because they've disappeared from the ZFA websiteweb.archive.org?
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-sack-club-mascot-after-walking-out-of-young-fans-bar-mitzvah-c-20434351>be carlton footy mascot>asked to do bar mitzvah>no worries>having a good one till you find out the event is an IDF fundraiser>walk the fuck out>wealthy club owners are attending the genocide bar mitzvah>they have a teary>get fired>get smeared as an anti-semitethis is gonna resonate with the trades. they fucked with footy. there is a massive opportunity to wedge by debating whether the club should donate to the IDF. really bad optics for the zionazis that forced the expulsion.
>>2535592Tradies are bourgeois.
>>2536058at this point I don't care how zionists become pariahs just that they do.
I don't know why people get so pissed about the Australian Frontier Wars. Sure, I might be willing to admit that certain elements of Queen Victoria's administration may have harboured slightly anti-indiginous sentiments that go far even for me, but that doesn't mean the various tribal groups can deny Australia's right to exist. These savages are so frequently attacking our settlers. I heard one say the other day that "From the Yarra River to the Tasman Sea Shall Be Free," which is obviously genocidal, as there are a ton of Australians in this area and they have no connection to any other nation. Where would they go? And I don't get why these Wurundjeri, Boonwurrung, and Wathaurrungs get so pissed off. This is obviously not an equal fight. Aboriginals surround Australians in every direction. Why can't they just go live with these Jagera and Turrbal peoples in the desert? The northern savages don't seem to be helping the southern ones out enough, why is it always our responsibility? I read in the Herald Sun the other day that some Aboriginals scalped babies! Babies! You can condemn the land seizures but not scalping babies? These activists seem to be holding Queen Victoria to a standard they never held Pemulwuy to when he was slaughtering innocent Bendigo settlers. They must just want all the Australian people dead. Again, you may have certain issues with the Queen's administration, or even every monarch ever crowned, but this doesn't mean Australians have inherent problems (the Aboriginals certainly do, I haven't heard one condemn the latest scalping). You can criticise certain politicians, and I agree, I'm even a Labour voter, but you have no right to question our peoples right to exist. There is no other Australian nation in the world. Why do you want us, out of all other people, not to have self determination?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2536058Thanks, wsws. Retarded analysis as always.
>>2537078But this is clearly ironical?
>>2539499becuz ur not based for based one party labor system
>>2539499To be fair to Jordies most people don’t know how corrupt our cops and pollies actually are. If he was a mainstream journo his boss would have stopped him publishing the story that got him firebombed.
Maybe this will be he redemption arc.
>>2539516I *highly* doubt he'll change his views. He'll find some way to rationalise it and go back to sucking labor's dick without thinking twice - hell, I don't even think he'll make the connection that the system he's spent so long defending is the same one that tried to kill him, and the same one that's completely indifferent to his attempted murder. Who knows, maybe he thinks Labor money is worth risking his life for.
At best, his experience can serve as an example: the state doesn't give a fuck about you. If you get in the way of the affairs of the rich, no matter the evidence, no matter the crime, they will kill you. No matter who you are, no matter who you know. No matter how loyal you are to the state - even if you're Jordan Shanks - if you get in the way, they'll throw you aside without blinking.
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