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Too many self-proclaimed communists in the West clutch their copies of The Communist Manifesto while hurling criticism at China, oblivious to what communism actually demands in practice. They romanticize a pure, abstract revolution—classless, stateless, perfect—yet fail to grapple with the messy reality of building socialism in a world dominated by imperialist capital. China’s path, with its state-led development and strategic market integration, isn’t a betrayal of communism but a pragmatic response to global capitalism’s chokehold. These armchair Marxists ignore how China lifted millions from poverty while navigating a hostile world order, instead whining about “authoritarianism” through a lens tinted by Western propaganda. True communism isn’t dogmatic purity; it’s dialectical, adapting to material conditions. Criticizing China without understanding its historical and geopolitical context isn’t revolutionary—it’s just posturing that serves the status quo.
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>>2452321
No white people to not do any work.

>>2452323
>implying certain nations are inherently socialist and others are inherently capitalist

ngmi

>>2452301
>>2452304
Peel a dengoid, a fascist bleeds

>>2452321
Socialism

>>2452317
This is error can excused if you you don't speak German and are only relying on second hand sources about the AfD. But in case you do speak german, bring dich um du unterfickte Missgeburt

The brutal blackpill is that international revolution stopped being a possibility the moment nukes were invented. What Lenin was able to achieve was only possible because of perfect conditions. The Imperial German army collapsed only one year after the Czar left the war, the bourgeoisie was set to take over after Nicholas was deposed but thankfully Western support only arrived after 1919. Those were crucial times where everything succeeded, German intervention was lackluster because the German army ceased to exist, with only volunteers arriving in the Baltic and Finland, Anglo-French expeditionary forces had to land in Arkhangelsk and Vladivostok because the collapsing German, Austrian and Ottoman empires made troop movements impossible. Through luck and cunning the Bolsheviks took power.

The second big counter revolution was the Second World War, but once again, the reactionaries fucked up, they attacked each other and divided their camp. If that didn't happen then we would've seen a joint US-German-Italian-French-British-Polish-Japanese forces invading the Soviet Union.

At the end of WW2 it seemed as world revolution was inevitable. Europe and Asia were in ruins, proles were pissed off and starving. An invasion force promising bread and houses would've taken over all of Eurasia. But then a sun dropped in New Mexico, and shortly afterwards another two followed.

Armored spearheads were now countered by a weapon that was invented too early.

You will have to wait until climate change sets in to have another shot.

>>2452328
Please delete this anti-Bordiga gif


>>2452343
Why no revolution then?

>>2452330
Then the implementation of socialism in the West should be possible without lowering living standards. Great job refuting your own argument.

>>2452347
Because you dont believe in it. Believe it!

>>2452292
Some people are just pathetic and like to feel good by proxy trough "joining" the winning faction. They're just the western variant of the gusano.



>>2452352
This, Lenin is German spy.

>>2452357
Parvus/Helphand was a jew, though

>>2452349
Nope because China actually has a culture conducive to socialism

>>2452365
>Muh culture
Jesus fucking christ

>>2452317
> the AFD has more revolutionary capability than either die linke or BSW
> they're not even that reactionary
> they just want to control the flow of immigration
> their fuckin leader is a lesbian for god's sake

>>2452365
>the culture in question

why did mods lock this thread and then unlock it

>>2457417
>why do mods
Cause they are retarded, fundamentally. That's always the answer. But hey, they are shooting themselves in the foot, generally. It's like empire in general (if I may be permitted the analogy, which is somewhat "out there"), the more they try to strangle the opposition, in the long term, the clearer, simpler, and ultimately better things will become.
I see westoids in general as useless sacks of shit now. Fundamentally.
I'm over it. No more trying.

>>2452298
>noooo please don't divide the eu, it's a very left wing progressive project and totally not a semi-state directly controlled by western finance capital

>>2457417
It’s kino

>>2457417
Because half the staff believe China needs to be militantly defended and the other thinks constantly having the same thread with the same argument right next to a similar thread with a similar argument is stupid

>>2457664
>Orban is anti EU
>China is anti EU

>>2457506
>see westoids in general as useless sacks of shit now. Fundamentally.
Third worldists (not to be confused with third worlders at large, the most retarded ones (probably including you) are from the US) are fundamentally racist revisionists driven purely by spite and are unironically closer to Fascists than Marxists.

>>2458205
The struggle sessions will continue until all ultroids kys

>>2458640
projection babes

Bump me baby one more time

>>2447889
commodity production is when you produce goods but do it privately and with the intent to sell it on the market and increase "your" capital instead of directly acquiring other goods to fulfill some human necessity

>>2448679
>It exists not chiefly to make profits for the capitalists

Anyone who thinks China "isnt real communism" is not left wing.

>>2475955
>but do it privately
You do it "socially". Production is or stays socialized while profits are privatized. That is the contradiction. If there was a cottage capitalism, with small, independent artisans, "one (or a couple) men workshops", there would be no "contradiction" and capitalism could exist indefinitely.
So goes the theory.
That is all to say. This is why the neoclassic/neolib economist type always talks about some outlandish Robinson Crusoe scenario. To make it work, you have to rip the reality of relations out of its real context and then say "look at this, I have built an independent coconut empire, of course I should be properly remunerated".

The people's billionaires

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>>2477915
>Anyone who thinks China "isnt real communism" is not left wing.
PRC government is ruled by a communist party that took over in semi-feudal conditions (1950). They are transitioning from state capitalism (now) to socialism (2050) to communism (2150). People say this is "too slow" but it is preferable to going too fast and collapsing or being overthrown. This is official CPC position.

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>>2483394
have you read losurdo?

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>>2452356
same dimensions, smaller file size, you're welcome

>>2483392
-1000 social credit

Maybe when China says it will be socialist in 2049, they mean cybernetic socialism? The state knows what you need and want through brain chips or whatever and will give it to you, properly rationed.

>>2483458

Everyone gets robots and high universal basic income and is able to spend billions of dollars

>>2483393
What actual steps is the CPC undertaking to establish socialism in 2050? How will the economy then differ from the current model? I have asked these questions before, but only got vague answers.

>>2483516
On the contrary, they're taking very concrete steps to entrench capitalism deeper and deeper as the friends and families of government officials get more and more fabulously wealthy, while they buy up properties and luxury cars in the west for their spoiled kids.

There is less than zero reason for the CPC to begin transitioning to communism, in fact, they would be working against their own personal material interests in doing so. Perhaps, it's religious thinking on the part of the naive who really want China to get a big win for communism, but, more often than not, I'm pretty sure posts like the one you're responding to are just straight dishonest gaslighting or trolling.

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How do ultroids and leftcoms cope with the fact that marx and engels were gradualists and developmentalists, and didn't think that the dotp would immediately abolish capital?

>>2483687
by this logic none of us should even work towards communism and instead voot liberal in the hopes that through progressive policy they just trip over themselves and establish socialism

>>2484174
cope
Deng won, simple as.

>>2483392
>noooo you dont get it you must be POOR so the american empire can easily destroy you noooo stop being succesful noooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>2484219
yes he has we have no need to work towards socialism in the slightest

>>2484221
>caring about the competition between the ruling classes of two super powers


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