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An anarchist I know shared this longass post on Instagram. Last pic is from a prominent member of Indonesia's Labor Party. Tell me this isn't a color revolution.
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>>2459740
I'm mad at you because you're a retard. I don't even like anime, but somehow you've got me here defending it.

>>2459742
Except for inventing anime

>>2459744
Spongebob is not a pedo nazi cartoon, most anime is either or both

>>2459746
easy ragebait ngl

>>2459747
So it's only cartoons created by non-whites you take an issue with?
So zased comrade! Heil Haz!!!!

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>>2459740
Nah I'm just mildly annoyed at the ziggers derailing the thread and doing apologia for one of the most violently anticommunist governments in Southeast Asia.

>>2459753
No I take issue with pedo nazi cartoons, which most anime is. The race of whoever produced it is irrelevant

>>2459755
Not much of that itt anyways, also
>zigger
you can't say that anon, you racist

I’m not sure if I wanna live in your world where The Boondocks is a pedo nazi show

The Boondocks was a the pedo nazi cartoon that fueled the George Floyd color revolution!
Heil the ACP! Heil Haz!

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>>2459755
I think a big part of it is Leftypol's kneejerk reaction to anything involving anarchists, so of course a movement composed of them is automatically a color revolution even when it's literally fighting against one of the most notoriously anti-communist regimes out there. Nobody's asking anyone to become an anarchist, they're just the most visible face of the radical left in Indonesia right now. Maybe when the government is overthrown and the anti-communist laws repealed we can get some Real Certified Xi Jiping Approved Communist Vanguards

>>2459759
Damn you got me there, disregard everything I said actually

>>2459765
I concede to the boondocks argument

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>>2459766
Here's the thing as a communist I am in fact skeptical of whether or not this anarchist and student radical led movement can succeed both in the short and long term. But who else is there right now? The communists are long gone having been violently purged along with scores of ethnic Chinese, Buginese, and Abangan (funny how every anticommunist purge always ends up including a bunch of ethnic minorities the government doesn't like). As you can see in the OP the government permitted labor unions and opposition parties are, surprise surprise, utterly cucked. So for better or worse the task of bringing down the government or at least force them to make reforms falls to the aforementioned anarchists.

>>2459783
So you’re seriously saying that Indonesian protesters are Wang Jingwei style collaborationists despite there being zero Japanese military presence anywhere in the world let alone Indonesia. You’re defending a government that’s lined its pockets with Saudi money and fully denies the rights of West Papuans and has endorsed the multinational corporate rape of its own proletariat.

>>2459792
Western leftist purity dickmeasuring strikes again!

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>>2459783
>>2459788
The difference of course being that Indonesia is not being invaded by Japan, there is no significant communist party, the protesters are not aligned with Japan at all no matter how much you try to tell yourself that using an anime symbol is "Japanese cultural imperialism", and other minor unimportant details like that.

People here will really just say anything. "Anti-government protesters in Indonesia are just like Wang Jingwei". No they aren't. That isn't true.

>>2459788
>>2459783
Unhinged nationalist retardation and historical revision. Imperial Japan was out doing like the rape of Nanjing and were almost certainly going to just murder the collaborators. Japanese forces were out to commit genocide regardless of affiliation. both the KMT and CPC realized the other as far easier threats to deal with than the imperial forces trying to actually murder as much as they could

>>2459821
Also "national unity" was LITERALLY THE LINE USED BY EARL BROWDER WHEN HE BECAME A KNOWN FEDERAL AGENT as the excuse to DISSOLVE THE CPUSA

>>2459230
Kill yourself hazlet
t. someone who doesn't watch anime

>>2459792
>>2459800
The really funny part is that in Indonesia a lot of the pro-Japanese collaborators went on to become heroes of the War of Independence and the first leaders of independent Indonesia. This includes Sukarno himself.

>>2459788
>It's violent anti-Communism is an indigenous movement of the national bourgeoisie.
Sukarno represented the national bourgeoisie. He was overthrown by pro-imperialist factions who were compradors by definition.
>There were times when they accepted US aid in their operations but they were never dependent on it the way the Iran was for example.
Anon the leaders of the 1965 coup were brought to the US as part of a deliberate program to train foreign officers and indoctrinate them into anti-communism. This was the same model used to lay the foundations of Operation Condor and the Latin American juntas of the 70s. The lists of names of PKI members and trade unionists were provided to them by the CIA and MI6. The post-coup Indonesian government was practically grown in a lab in the Pentagon. Have you even read the Jakarta Method?

Did an MP really say 'do not compare us commoners'? Can someone link or upload? thanks.

>color revolution
>in USA alligned colonial right wing terror regime indonesia
The only colour revolution here is the CIA constantly planting retarded ideas in your brain.

>>2459505
>but what about this strawman I just pulled out my ass
ik you can do better this the shit that libs do "you have two cows" headass

>>2459740
>pedo cartoons fascistic
normal people would take you a lot more seriously if you called something like the metropolis film "fascistic" instead of some random cartoon shit fucktard

>>2458316
Why lifting millions out of poverty cannot be just welfareism?!

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>>2459230
>>2459240
>>2459242
> Essentialism over a fucking aestetic
< You are fascist neckbeards

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>>2459621
> It's dialectical you see

>>2460635
Oh of course, lifting hundreds of millions of non whites out of poverty is bad because without that poverty how will we the western master race be able to afford our treats? This is why the “revolution” in Indonesia must succeed, we can’t lose another source of cheap labor! Think of the funko pops!

>>2460721
You're retarded.

>>2460730
How’s CHAZ doing?

>popular revolt somewhere
<its a color revolution!
<noooo muh ziggers call everything color revolution!
<quick lets go full sectarianism and rehash all the campist/anti imperialists argument!
you guys really need to stop taking seriously the one or two pol shitposters that have understood how to troll us effectively

>>2460739
If the Chinese revolution happened today you'd call it a color revolution

>>2460744
The Chinese equivalent to what’s happening in Indonesia would be Wang and the KMT leftists joining forces with the genocidal Japanese invaders. There is nothing to be gained for the real movement by a mass movement of anime fans raping and pillaging everything in their path, but there’s much to be lost by compromising Indonesia’s place within BRICS+(Rule 14d - not enough grass touched)

>>2460751
It's really funny just how hung up you are on the anime bit.

Hey genius, don't you think that the US might have something to gain from one of its puppet states giving it a place in BRICS?

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>pic related
worst load of shite ive ever read and larpers online will lap it up like babies drink milk

>>2460743
>popular revolt
>popular
>popular
>popular
as retarded as op is can you also grow a brain and stop pretending communists are about democracy lmao

>>2460744
>>2460751
>>2460766
le chinese revolution was about as communist as when the united states became independent lmao

>>2460843
>stop pretending communists are about democracy
What did he mean by this?

>>2460855
>memecommunist response
as usual from retards here, nothing but a shallow grasp of what the state and democracy actually are. just nothing but dealing with ideals

>>2460843
It's correct though. Sorry that they didn't write it in an identical style to some long winded 19th century Hegelians

>>2460860
>Sorry that they didn't write it in an identical style to some long winded 19th century Hegelians
LOL yeah bud as if both arent meaningless philosophical drivel. just retardation that absolutely refuses to speak in concrete terms

>>2460864
It's pretty simple and self explanatory actually, again I'm sorry that it's not using your special buzzwords

>>2460859
No, I actually don't know what the fuck you're trying to say.

>>2460751
The closest comparison would be if Wang was already in power for 50 years

>>2456031
>>2460843
>>2460860
This garbage is nothing but romantic drivel that would only wow fellow college students because that's the only shit politically impotent liberals can do.

>>2460743
>>2460855
A communist does not care to be popular, only correct. When you have an organization that is solely "doh democracy good" then you're simply not socialist, communist or working class. In fact, if any "organization" ever becomes larger and gains more "mass", the more factions and heterodox any organisation becomes. All the more as it has no class program, it does not exclude people due to class, and every pandering to democracy is an acceptance of maintaining society as a whole.

It's so common to treat politics as a noble tool, a "master key" to liberation, and then to blame its failures on outside evils such as money, mafia, or media. But this view ignores what politics in a democracy actually is. If politics is supposed to deliver equality, liberty, justice, and fraternity, it's worth seeing that these ideals are not goals beyond the system but the system's own promises.

>>2460937
Why would the US start a color revolution in Indonesia? What does it have to gain by doing this?

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>>2460721

>>2461063
Because Indonesia trades with Russia and China on occasion, which is all the credentials you need in 2025 to be Actual Existing Socialism

>>2460149
Not just a random cartoon, but a cartoon almost entirely about liberating oppressed peoples, which is why it was chosen as a popular symbol.

>>2460930
> A communist does not care to be popular, only correct. When you have an organization that is solely "doh democracy good" then you're simply not socialist, communist or working class.
So why doesn't this apply to Burkina Faso and criminalizing homosexuality? It seems to me that the standard of democracy and people's will is cynically used and discarded by most everyone.

>>2461193
Lmao remember when people here were calling the Awami League regime in Bangladesh AES? Embarrassing.

>>2462201
No, I don't remember that.

>>2462201
Idk about Bangladesh but I do remember people doing it for the military junta in Burma.


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