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>>2463949Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2465522<communism has never ever been about "the majority", "the masses", "the 99%", or whatever other retardation liberals believe in lmaoMarx does talks about bourgeois democracy being "shallow" and "vulgar."
>Even vulgar democracy, which sees the millennium in the democratic republic, and has no suspicion that it is precisely in this last form of state of bourgeois society that the class struggle has to be fought out to a conclusion — even it towers mountains above this kind of democratism, which keeps within the limits of what is permitted by the police and not permitted by logic.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm
>Every demand of the simplest bourgeois financial reform, of the most ordinary liberalism, of the most formal republicanism, of the most shallow democracy, is simultaneously castigated as an "attempt on society" and stigmatized as "socialism".
<Marx in The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852)However, he does not talk about democracy in and of itself as being inherently bourgeois, and stresses the need for the proletariat to "win the battle of democracy."
>[…] the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htmLenin contrasts this bourgeois, shallow, vulgar democracy with proletarian democracy:
>It is ridiculous to think that Mr. Kautsky could find in any country even one out of a thousand of well-informed workers or farm labourers who would have any doubts as to the reply. Instinctively, from hearing fragments of admissions of the truth in the bourgeois press, the workers of the whole world sympathise with the Soviet Republic precisely because they regard it as a proletarian democracy, a democracy for the poor, and not a democracy for the rich that every bourgeois democracy, even the best, actually is.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/prrk/democracy.htmDo not listen to anons who say communism is not democratic. These anons are confused contrarians who take bourgeois society's claim to be "democratic" at face value and assume by extension that a post-capitalist society would have no collective decision making apparatus or systems of representation. Often they are reactionaries.
>>2465550>The united KKKingdom and ameriKKKa have trabsformed into parasitic monopolist imperialist economies where proletarians are not close to majority since, so you are revisionist who take engels out of context to give false faith to imperialistsI was quoting Marx.
https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1930/1930s/no-307-march-1930/karl-marx-on-the-suffrage/
> “We now come to the Chartists, the politically active portion of the British working class. The six points of the Charter which they contend for, contain nothing but the demand of universal suffrage, and of the conditions without which universal suffrage would be illusory for the working class : such as the ballot, payment of members, annual general elections. But universal suffrage is the equivalent for political power for the working class of England, where the proletariat form the large majority of the population, where, in a long, though underground, civil war, it has gained a clear consciousness of its position as a class, and where even the rural districts know no longer any peasants, but landlords, industrial Capitalists (farmers) and hired labourers. The carrying of universal suffrage in England would, therefore, be a far more socialistic measure than anything which has been honoured with that name on the Continent. >“Its inevitable result here, is the political supremacy of the working class.”
<—(“N.Y. Tribune,” Aug. 25th, 1852.)On the Trans Gun Ban | An Injury to One is an Injury to All
2025-09-07
If they come for the guns, we come for them.
The regime, as it stands, is not a government of the people, but a occupying force for a dying idea. It is the political manifestation of a deep-seated refusal—a refusal to accept that the America they mythologize, a nation built on genocide and chattel slavery and maintained through imperial extraction, is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions. They cling to their ghost, their 1950s white-picket-fence fantasy, while we are busy building the reality of a new world on top of the old one's bones. This is what our indigenous comrades have long understood: this land is not a commodity to be owned and policed, but a relation to be honored. They call it Turtle Island, a name that predates and will outlive the temporary political project called "America."
Their project is one of total control, and the working class—of all genders, all races—is its primary target. The war on the freedom of the people was always a class war. This war on we the people has been waged in the board room, in the police station, in the court house, and in the media sphere. The court house cloaks that violence in legitimacy, writing law to sanctify exploitation. The media sphere launders the narrative, convincing the public that slavery is freedom and that submission is safety. Together, these institutions form the anti-life regime, and together they have sought to turn every expression of humanity into a managed commodity for their profit. Now we see this war on the people waged on our streets. Armed men pulling families apart, children sent to concentration camps here, bombed in Gaza. The attack on the rights of trans individuals is not about gender politics, nor is it about whatever man-o-sphere talking points Joe Rogan is floating about this trans gun ban, nor is it about "finding a starting point for a wider gun ban" as some liberals may claim. It is about control, and about controlling the freedom of the working class. The freedom to project force against the oppressor, the right to bare arms. The freedom of assembly, the right to gather as the masses. The freedom of speech, the right to speak freely to the masses. And, the strongest freedom of all, the freedom of self discovery and expression.
This is the fundamental rift in America today. On one side stands the regime—those who refuse to accept this new America, this yet-to-be-established entity our indigenous comrades call "Turtle Island." They reject its vibrant, chaotic, and beautiful potential that lies in the freedom achieved by dismantling capitalist-imperialism. They attack the freedom to change your gender precisely because it is one of the ultimate expressions of true personal sovereignty, and that is why their assault on trans people is the spearhead for a wider war on all our liberties. They cloak their fear in propaganda, but their target is freedom itself: speech, assembly, expression, and the right to meet your oppressor armed and ready to die for that freedom.
They do not merely hate trans people; they hate the principle trans existence represents—the sovereignty of the individual over their own body and identity. And this hatred of one freedom necessitates the destruction of all others. They attack trans people because a person who can redefine their own body is a person who has moved beyond their control.
To understand this, we must see the freedom to define one's gender as a raw expression of absolute personal sovereignty—a profound act of self-creation that much of modern 'American' culture, in its chaotic and beautiful evolution, has been moving toward. This progression is undeniable. First, it was the freedom for men to wear long hair, for women to work and wear what they please. Then it became the reclaiming of the body as a canvas for art with tattoos, a rejection of respectability politics and corporate control. Why do people get face tattoos if not to say fuck you to the customer service heirarchy, if not to express their antonomy? Of course, there have always been trans people, it is an innate part of the human experience. Our Indigenous comrades know this deeply; concepts like Two-Spirit, which honor gender variance as sacred, are ancient and foundational, yet remain alien to the colonized mind that must categorize, control, and commodify. These attacks on trans people are not new; they are merely the latest manifestation of this neocolonization, an extension of the same project that seeks to erase Indigenous worldviews and enforce a rigid, life-denying order to extract profit for the richest of the rich.
The imperial boomerang has swung back. It is clear that the war on freedom is not just waged abroad, in the deserts of Iraq or the killing fields of Gaza. Here at home the war is being waged, against you, against me, against the neighbors and friends in your community. Make no mistake, an injury to one is an injury to all. In the eyes of the anti-life regime, we are all illegal now. The regime wages war upon the masses, and make no mistake, our freedom scares them. Our ability to operate without them, that scares them. The regime wages war upon the masses from a place of profound, gut-churning fear, and make no mistake, our freedom scares them. It terrifies them. Our ability to organize without their permission, to provide for one another without their intermediaries, to speak truths they have tried to bury, and to operate without them, that shakes the very foundation of their stolen authority. Their strength is a façade, a brittle shell masking a core of panic; for they know that a people who are truly free, who are armed in both body and spirit, cannot be ruled—they can only be met as equals, and that is a conversation these cowards in their police uniforms and in their boardrooms are too weak to face.
It is about disarming the spirit before disarming the body. It is about severing our right to project force against the oppressor. It is about dismantling our right to assemble as a mass movement. It is about silencing our right to speak truth to power. And it is about crushing the most potent freedom of all: the freedom of self-discovery and expression that allows a person to look in the mirror and declare, "I am not what you say I am."
So come and take it. We know that political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. We will be waiting in the streets, armed with more than just rifles—armed with truth, with working class solidarity, and with the unshakable knowledge that our freedom, in all its forms, is what the capitalist cowards in power truly fear. And it is what we will truly defend.
Live free or die, that is the HOUDINI way.
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=704123&title=on-the-trans-gun-ban-an-injury-to-one-is-an-injury-to-all>>2465577Dude, I tell you as an anon, and sometimes friend, I want you to live as I want all people to live. I remember my relationship with you kinda started when you were saying you were serious about suicide in the burgerpunk thread. Get out of the 09A or whatever weirdo shit. Get down to Earth. The primary
animal(because it's not only animalia)life extinct is that of survival. That is the root chakra, the lowest depths of the spine and mind and our evolutionary history. That is what it means to be grounded. These ideas shouldn't disturb your basic will for self-preservation.
>>2465597he will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER answer that question.
>>2465598and he dodged it
>>2465592Yes. Its on the list.
>>2465542>>2465579Part of our network now extends into the wook/dead head subculture, which has been exposing me to more or this sort of thing. I have a very low threshold for 'woo' but things like mindfulness and meditation might be worth exploring.
>>2465872>hohol>muh I am based right-wing ideologyThis is a very popular, famous, and influential Russian political commentator:
https://t.me/colonel_cassad/65845>their own country do a lot to leave blacks, Latin Americans and Asians in the swamp of wretchedness: they deprive them of access to education, strangle them with administrative barriers, low wages, corrupt them with benefits, and instill nationalism and racism.
>"Racial tolerance" has become a disgusting product of American bourgeois culture and a perverted product of the black population's struggle for rights. The imposition of stupid norms of behavior and various absurd prohibitions is actually offensive to blacks. The oppressed, essentially second-class people, were thrown a bone of shameful world - they say that it is now forbidden to call you blacks and in general you are now "equal people" and can complain about racism in gestures and words. And the agents of bourgeois influence are fanning the hysteria of the insulted and offended in every possible way, thus reducing the problems of the black population of the USA to nonsense like "Black Lives Matter", diverting it from the class struggle into the wilds of racial demagogy.
>And the "black president of America", who has done absolutely nothing for the black population - what is this if not a manifestation of the imposed shameful world? Even Fidel Castro hoped for Obama's skin color, which would make him a progressive president. The Cuban Titan, following millions of American blacks, miscalculated.
>No matter how bourgeois ideologists disguise the problems of the people of the USA as racial or party dilemmas, the split of American society is occurring along the line of class relations. Until dissatisfied blacks, Latin Americans, Asians and white proletarians, semi-proletarians and lumpen do not realize this, they will remain pawns in the game of the oligarchy, which is pitting them against each other. Until the black movement in the US realizes that the cause of their plight is not racism itself or even a racist government, but capitalism, which does not allow them to get out of the swamp of poverty and wretchedness, it will continue to exist in the form of periodic pogrom activity.https://prorivists.org/46_george_floyd_protests/ - in full here
>In principle, one can agree with the author, it is already clear that the two largest oligarchic parties in the US are trying to use racial protests in the interests of the election campaign, making protesters not an actor, but an instrument. Without meaningful demands and a political vanguard, all this really either collapses into pogroms, or after some time goes into a sluggish mode.you are a cretin for painting the Russian society, and Russia in a right-wing ideology closer to nazism, like nafo would do.
>>2465960Use archive links if you can, bud.
Here you go:
https://archive.is/vCMrn >>2465969are you retarded? where does it say that BLM was carrying pogroms?
oh, I see you saw this (picrel) and believed everything was happily ever after, and you are in a nightmare where trump SCOTUS is overturning every god damn right the Americans have:
>>2465960, waiting to wake up under momma khamala rule.
cretin bitch.
>>2465973
around whites? be ready to fight. They might enslave you, drag you to another continent in chains, force you to pick the crops and mine the ores on their stolen land, criminalize your existence, lynch you, segregate you, flood your community with crack cocaine, defund your schools, disarm your radicals, assassinate your leaders, overthrow governments in your motherland, and then act shocked at the resulting society they themselves created
>>2466026its very simple. she was comprador ukrowhore cracKKKer so she deserved to be stabbed.
>defending a deranged murderer and ignoring that public safety in this country is garbageameriKKKans dont deserve to be safe. Afrikans should kill their oppressor.
Ukraine's embassy in the United States told Newsweek on Monday that it "has been in close contact" with the family of 23-year-old Charlotte stabbing victim Iryna Zarutska, and has been in communication with local law enforcement.
"We are deeply saddened by the tragic death of Ukrainian citizen Iryna Zarutska," the embassy said in a statement.
"Since August 22, when this tragic incident occurred, the Embassy of Ukraine has been in close contact with Ms. Zarutska's family and continues to provide them with all necessary consular support during this difficult time," the statement continued.
"The Embassy is also in ongoing communication with local U.S. law enforcement authorities, specifically the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department, which is actively investigating the case"
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusiveukraine-embassy-responds-iryna-zarutska-stabbing-charlotte-2126514>>2466065delulu but please keep believing that. pride goeth before a fall. west lacks productive capacity to decisively win proxy war with russia, let alone direct war china
china accelerates to 2050 socialism
burger wants to return to 1850
>>2466110>oreo isn't a slur.It is the way you’re using it.
>calling someone an uncle tomYou didn’t call them an uncle tom. You called them an oreo.
>doesn't make it unscientific either.The lack of evidence to back race science however does.
>>2466122>It is the way you’re using it.it's not, because I am describing the daughter of a black person acting like a white fascist. you stupid moron.
protip: libs saying uncle tom/oreo is a slur, are a bunch of imbeciles, scared to to use specific terms to describe the servilities of some people. Ask to any black communist person if they think that if in general saying oreos/uncle tom/aunt thomasina are slurs, they'll tell you it's not.
>You didn’t call them an uncle tom. You called them an oreo.the first is a consequence of such oreo people.
>The lack of evidence to back race science however does.ethnic groups exist, it's scientific. and it's scientific the existence of the exploitation of ethnic minorities, thus people behaving like oreos/uncle toms/aunt thomasina, being described as such it's part of the scientific discourse that describes the ethnic collaborators (black Americans) of a specific racist society, the white American society.
example: of oreos/uncle toms/aunt thomasina/: jesse 'Thanks god for Slavery' lee peterson, obama, khamala harris, eric holder, eric adams, collin powell, condolezza rice, and many more.
>>2466116yeah we do. in real life we punch but online there's only words and you have none they look like they win and are correct. so you have to say something rather than letting them monopolize all communication and being dismissive and saying "I have no counter arguments because you deserve none."
the rightoids are currently monpolizing all the onlien discourse (the majority of discourse) with "suicidal empathy" and "whites are always the victims" and you just sit there going "umm i don't debate people john brown would've shot sweaty" while not actually shooting anyone and letting them control all communication.
Reminder that the Lenin "why should we debate kautsky" quote is fake and Lenin did in fact write an entire book debunking kautsky just like engels wrote an entire book against duhring and marx wrote an entire book against stirner
>>2466157the point isn't to convince the rightoids you idiot but the millions of impressionable young people who see them saying all these things and leftists with no counter arguments and just "umm i won't debate you because you don't deserve it"
>you should be doxxing and terrorizingexcept you aren't doing this instead you're letting them monopolize communication and just declaring victory. if I were a young impressionable person who didn't already know better and was witnessing all this it would look like the rightoids have all the "points" and you have none but dismissiveness. They right are monopolizing discourse, education, agitation, and organization while the left just declares "it's not my job to educate you sweaty"
>>2466145t. I don't know how to use X.
you can literally filter sex bots, bots, and specific topics/people. and the discourses are more enriching in X than in instagram, where criticizing zionism is banned, or facebook filled with old boomers believing that a child in Ivory Coast did a 3 meters tall statue of Jesus made out of plastic bottles, or where you can't even say "fuck you" to a genocide apologist like in tiktok, or be surrounded by a bunch of condescending lib public that is blu.sky (also banning any criticism on zionism).
>>2466146Oh good lord. I just realized you weren’t using the oreo term as a mixed slur. You just said oreo, and I got flashbacks.
>Ask to any black communistI am a black communist.
>ethnic groups exist, it's scientificThat’s not race though
>>2466181why did engels write a book against duhring?
>umm duhring wasn't a nazi, it's different with nazisactually he basically was a nazi
>>2466135>BJSthat's with the Office of Justice Programs
I remember right after Trump was inaugurated that same OJP office censored a page about trans people being sexual assault victims:
https://web.archive.org/web/20241228015214/https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/pubs/forge/sexual_numbers.htmlI don't know about their race statistics however.
>>2466201Trump talked about it in an disturbing and ominous manner
/pol/ got sent into a frenzy
Nazis kept invading the thread
>>2466213>monopolizing arms and training than us.They are better at monopolizing arms, but training is a different story.
>actually letting them monopolize communication We’re not
>and not debunking them is worse You don’t simply debunk someone who doesn’t come in good faith and has the heart of a cold hearted liar.
>nobody who says this is actually shooting them anywayThey also aren’t engaged in time wasting conversations that not only interrupt more fruitful discussions, but also fail to convince the other side of literally anything.
>>2466215Lenin was able to create enough breathing room to write, and didn’t have to manage rapidly changing info waves on the internet.
>>2466224>You don’t simply debunk someone who doesn’t come in good faith and has the heart of a cold hearted liar.It's not about convincing them but about the people who are the target of their misinformation. of course they are bad faith.
>>2466225>liberals who will argue against him saying we can't ever critique Jews at all in the slightest way and he's being antisemitic for that.white nationalists are liberals and they're teamed up with zios now. They cheer on palestinian genocide while whining about fake white genocide in south africa. so of course they use that to deflect. are you confused?
>>2466228>It's not about convincing them but about the people who are the target of their misinformationThere’s literally no one here who would be a viable target. And arguing with them on false premises wouldn’t have made things better even if there were targets.
>white nationalists are liberalsAlways has been
>>2466230>There’s literally no one here who would be a viable target.are you really saying imageboards never have young impressionable people wander in? we literally get threads every other week that are like "hi i'm new to politics and don't understand anything"
see
>>2465098 >>2466235>are you really saying imageboards never have young impressionable people wander in?It’s unlikely is what i’m saying.
>we literally get threads every other week that are like "hi i'm new to politics and don't understand anything" I’m pretty sure those just for trolling and petty banter. The real new ones most likely just lurk.
>>2466252> maximizes leisure which is Marx's ultimate goal.lol
>>2466249chinese people will be living to 150 with stem cells and cancer cures while americans brutalize each other in a civil war that won't even result in socialism
>>2466253>I'm no leftistyeah yeah, you're "communist" which
totally transcends the left right paradigm and definitely isn't commonly regarded as being on the left against capitalism and fascism.
massive eyeroll
>Once again, you have said monopolize. I never said let them take over the discussion. I said don’t debate them.except when you don't educate people, they do.
you know. I think reactionaries would be a lot less successful today if they took the approach the leftists (or, in your case, the totally-non-leftist communist) take. Imagine if rightoids were never posting fake racist crime statistics or fake racist scientific studies, and were instead just screeching about how lefties deserve to be shot. People would take them a lot less seriously and they wouldn't be convincing anyone. You think people aren't convinced by arguments but by their material interests. That is only true to an extent. The superstructure does actually matter, and the reactionaries have taken over the entire superstructure.
>>2466283There's always going to be some excuse or another that they'll dredge up to justify cracking down on people of color, that's just how the right is.
On the other hand Trump being the most obviously guilty mofo alive with this Epstein shit will easily force the administration to play defense again and make up some other crazy excuse to top the whole "Trump was only doing pedophilia because he was an FBI informant" thing Mike Johnson came up with
its about getting people, especially those already radicalized to understand the logic of the revolutionary
every single person I have ever spoken to about socialism a better world, that has expressed that such a world should give them more freedom not less
This logic is completely different that the mainstream (media) left, which believes the power structures are legitimate, and can be reformed towards socialism.
When you go to a protest and hold a sign that says "We want healthcare!" you are appealing to the power structure's perceived legitimacy. Essentially you are begging the colonizer to stop colonizing, appealing to their morality.
It's the focus on getting non-voters to vote, instead of thinking about how many non-voters have already internalized that, the regime has no legitimacy to rule over you, and has such cannot be supported via reformist efforts.
When a toxic oil explosion rains down cancer causing chemicals, and the people rally to find answers on why it happened, what happened and how to prevent this, only to be met with vague non-answers and corporate lingo, it's because the government, both local, state and federal, does not represent the masses, the people, the colonized subject
Getting people to understand this is the first step towards liberation, because they will never stop kicking you with the boot, no matter how many times you whimper and beg like a dog. At a certain point, you have to show teeth, at a certain point, you have to bite back.
The state government of Louisiana does not represent the people who live in that state, same with the entire black belt, the government represents the corporations, and the government is designed to maximize extraction from the neocolony
>Neocolonialism means powerless visibility. You see an African president, but the entire country is controlled by France or Belgium or England—its former colonial master.
Kwame Ture
One thing I like to ask some people when I get into this theoretical debate is simply, "where is the imperial core?"
"America" is usually the response, but where in America? New York? DC? what about London? Paris?
Capital does not operate on a nation state basis, it operated based on an internationalist network of power.
The nation state is a tool used to divide the working class, created by the imperialist, the capitalist.
>A state can be said to be a neo-colonialist or client state if it is independent de jure and dependent de facto. It is a state where political power lies in the conservative forces of the former colony and where economic power remains under the control of international finance capital. –Kwame Nkrumah
Essentially, I am of the opinion that the overwhelming majority of the 'united states' is a neocolony controlled by internationalist capitalist structures, and that is why the most important solidarity to have is with those whom have been battling against colonization since the first capitalist set foot on this continent.
This is also why I have such a fundamental problem with the majority of the media left, as their rhetoric is essentially incompatible with the logic therein. The logic of reforming the neocolonial state is incompatible with the logic of dismantling it, and if anything, points the revolutionary masses towards solutions that, ultimately, only benefit the ruling class (and the patreon of the youtuber spewing said rhetoric).
>>2466369you click the report button, and you don't reply
>>2466347The ruling class =/= the land mass, or the masses therein.
>One thing I like to ask some people when I get into this theoretical debate is simply, "where is the imperial core?""America" is usually the response, but where in America? New York? DC? what about London? Paris?
The government of the Amerika is a driving force of imperialism, and yet there are various peripheries within the Amerika. The white worker in Appalachia, the Hispanic worker in the South West and the Black worker in the Delta are all in the periphery, even if their historical experiences of oppression are distinct.
>>2466378>The ruling class =/= the land mass, or the masses therein. nta, but unless the people under the control of a specific group of people, with more wealth obtained from exploitation, don't call for their own self-determination and engage in a armed struggle against those who control them, then they are not a colonized group of people, but merely a sub-servient group within that state.
for example, in Latin America, the "conquistadores" were the lowest scum of the Spanish society that failed to secure wealth through the exploitation of others, and happily joined the colonization of the "discovered" territories, to the point they actively shared pleasantries with the Spanish crown once they became relevant in those places.
frame much better the language.
They’re melting down over the drawing on /pol/
Also, they’ve made a thread about this exact thread.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/515140323>>2466457I'm a little rusty what race overwhelmingly supports genocide and wants to murder the entire world (and each other) and is also terrified of the rest of mankind taking revenge in the only way their lizard brained selves can imagine since they only thirst for blood and destruction of everything on Earth?
Oh yeah whitoids.
>>2466492in the UK we have rightoid protests atm. I read an article about one of the heads of them being a previous BNP (fascist party) member before these anti-migrant protests ….and also having been arrested for smuggling migrants across the border for money.
Rightoids.
>>2466470this keeps getting posted but I got banned for talking about this
>>2466263 I agreed trump is a pedo and I got banned as "reactionary" and I am literally the usual baker of this thread. the anon accused me of being a nazi for saying trump is a pedo while actual nazis keep talking ITT. I have reported them all day. WHAT IS GOING ON?
>>2466473Nah, ThingNoticer makes this dumbass look like William Buckley.
Not one deranged screed over cartoons he hates. Not one!
>>2466433neocolonization =/= 'traditional' colonization, which is important to keep in mind.
There are obviously compradores though, and some of them do absolutely benefit from the systems of extraction, but the same can be said for any country in the global south.
I think you are wishcasting a bit to hard here with the armed struggle bit, especially when the entire goal of neocolonism is to maintain an air of legitimacy via the de jure independence.
I do worry that my perspectives are biased due to being from literally cancer alley Louisiana, versus say, honkeyville, corn county, kansas
>>2466536i think he was just kinda schizo, and all the people saying he was a hottie is def psyop.
he wasnt even that attractive like, cmon honey
>>2466540I think the majority of Jews in NY are actually voting Mamdani and among younger Jews there is a stronger anti-zionist current. For instance Adam Friedland was called a "self hating Jew" by Andrew Cuomo for being against Zionism. Younger Jews are getting browbeaten by Christian zionists in both parties for not supporting Cuomo against Mamdani. Isn't that interesting?
>>2466536If he gets the death penalty I will be sure to remind everyone of all the white supremacist mass murderers (like chudjak in el paso) who merely got life in prison.
>>2466557>For instance Adam Friedland was called a "self hating Jew" by Andrew Cuomo for being against Zionism.
>In 2014, Noam Chomsky said that Zionists divided critics of Israeli policy into two groups: antisemitic non-Jews and neurotic self-hating Jews. He observed:
>Actually, the locus classicus, the best formulation of this, was by an ambassador to the United Nations, Abba Eban, Israel's ambassador to the United Nations…. He advised the American Jewish community that they had two tasks to perform. One task was to show that criticism of the policy, what he called anti-Zionism—that means actually criticisms of the policy of the state of Israel—were anti-Semitism. That's the first task. Second task, if the criticism was made by Jews, their task was to show that it's neurotic self-hatred, needs psychiatric treatment. Then he gave two examples of the latter category. One was I. F. Stone. The other was me. So, we have to be treated for our psychiatric disorders, and non-Jews have to be condemned for anti-Semitism, if they're critical of the state of Israel. That's understandable why Israeli propaganda would take this position. I don't particularly blame Abba Eban for doing what ambassadors are sometimes supposed to do. But we ought to understand that there is no sensible charge. No sensible charge. There's nothing to respond to. It's not a form of anti-Semitism. It's simply criticism of the criminal actions of a state, period.[48] >>2466540
>The Crown Heights riot began on August 19, 1991, after a car driven by a Jewish man, and part of a procession led by an unmarked police car, went through an intersection and was struck by another vehicle causing it to veer onto the sidewalk where it accidentally struck and killed a seven-year-old Guyanese boy named Gavin Cato and severely injured his cousin Angela. Witnesses could not agree upon the speed and could not agree whether the light was yellow or red. One of the factors that sparked the riot was the arrival of a private ambulance, which was later discovered to be on the orders of a police officer who was worried for the Jewish driver's safety, removed him from the scene while Cato lay pinned under his car.[35] After being removed from under the car, Cato and his cousin were treated soon after by a city ambulance.
>Caribbean-American and African-American residents of the neighborhood rioted for four consecutive days fueled by rumors that the private ambulance had refused to treat Cato.[35][36] During the riot black youths looted stores,[35] beat Jews in the street,[35] and clashed with groups of Jews, hurling rocks and bottles at one another[37] after Yankel Rosenbaum, a visiting student from Australia, was stabbed and killed by a member of a mob while some chanted "Kill the Jew", and "get the Jews out".[38]
>Sharpton marched through Crown Heights and in front of the headquarters of the Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic movement, shortly after the riot, with about 400 protesters (who chanted "Whose streets? Our streets!" and "No justice, no peace!"), in spite of Mayor David Dinkins' attempts to keep the march from happening.[39]
>[35] Some commentators felt Sharpton inflamed tensions by making remarks that included "If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house."[40] In his eulogy for Cato, Sharpton said, "The world will tell us he was killed by accident. Yes, it was a social accident…It's an accident to allow an apartheid ambulance service in the middle of Crown Heights…Talk about how Oppenheimer in South Africa sends diamonds straight to Tel Aviv and deals with the diamond merchants right here in Crown Heights. The issue is not anti-Semitism; the issue is apartheid…All we want to say is what Jesus said: If you offend one of these little ones, you got to pay for it. No compromise, no meetings, no kaffe klatsch, no skinnin' and grinnin'. Pay for your deeds."[41]
>In the decades since, Sharpton has conceded that his language and tone "sometimes exacerbated tensions" though he insisted that his marches were peaceful.[42][43] In a 2019 speech to a Reform Jewish gathering, Sharpton said that he could have "done more to heal rather than harm". He recalled receiving a call from Coretta Scott King at the time, during which she told him "sometimes you are tempted to speak to the applause of the crowd rather than the heights of the cause, and you will say cheap things to get cheap applause rather than do high things to raise the nation higher".[44][45] >>2466577The charity/NGO industrial complex was created in the 1970s-80s as a way to stop revolutionaries from building dual power.
Anyway, here's a link to Hasan next charity stream
>>2466586Continue to build dual power, directly in our communities, and use a cell based structure to expand outward in a decentralized manner, like a mycelum. The tactics still work. You address the needs of the masses, which builds your loyalty with the masses. The regime won't provide schooling? We build our own schools. The regime won't provide medical care? We build our own clinics. The regime locks people up, we build our own bail funds. The regime lets people go hungry, we feed them. And you scale this, while using the spectacle against the regime. The local Food Not Bombs gathers up 100 people in the park who are hungry, the police bust up the group, maybe throw the food out, maybe arrest some folks. This discredits the regime in the eyes of the masses, and strengthens the connection the masses have to the party.
You don't have to teach those 100 people the economic ends and outs of anarcho-communism, you simply have their loyalty because you make their live better, in contrast to the regime.
This is why I have a problem with the media left, these guys are making a lot of money on working class donations that could very much be used to build this type of dual power.
It's not just the material needs either, it's the building on a revolutionary culture which can then supersede the old. This is why I talk about 'freedom' in the way I do. By the time the armed struggle begins, the dual power structures, the revolutionary infrastructure should already be in place to a degree wherein the revolutionaries have the support of the masses and vice versa. The guerilla is part of the masses. The guerrilla is not an external force; they're the armed wing of a working class that is already self-organizing. They are the protectors of the clinics and the schools, drawn from the people they protect. Without this deep, pre-existing base of support, "armed struggle" is just isolated adventurism destined to be crushed and used as propaganda against the movement.
The issue is, that the overwhelming majority of the modern western left does not understand that the core of a revolution, is the armed struggle. I am of the belief that the masses are already filled with revolutionary consciousness, and that those who have been assigned by themselves or the powers that be to lead them, are in fact less revolutionary than the masses. The cashier at Dollar General who says "I can't afford to eat" doesn't need to be taught about surplus value; they are living the contradiction. They possess a revolutionary consciousness. The task is not to educate them from above but to organize that latent energy into power from below.
There is no vanguard party in the US, and those who claim to be are in fact counter revolutionary reformists. The media Left as well as reformist parties like the DSA function as a parasitic class on revolutionary energy. They monetize outrage and hope, diverting funds and energy that could be used for building actual power (dual power) into content creation and electoralism that ultimately reinforces the idea that change comes through spectating and donating, not through building and fighting.
>>2466606First the Epstein leaks now Chicago
Things are starting to sizzle
>>2466607Nothing is going to happen in Chicago we'll be fine
If he does send troops they are going to be around the rich areas doing nothing
>>2466627No, nothing ever happens and I am very smart!
>>2466620You get it. Did you know the last Black Panther medical clinic closed in 2008? Did you know the Young Lords straight up seized a medical clinic because the regime wasn't providing for the people?
>>2466625>Hurt obtained a copy of Ivana Trump’s sworn divorce deposition from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’ ”
>Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. >>2466631that is immensely retarded
good on her
>>2466631fuck me that's so crazy i didn't believe it was real.
Death to America it couldn't come soon enough.
>>2466631It is actually fucking nuts that the weird bitch openly drinking Trump's dusty coagulated cum every night is saying brazen nazi shit like this at one of the most talented and highly educated people in the entire country.
There's no way it's going to go well for them if they're being this… flippant? Like I understand they need to hide their power levels less and less but this is just insane.
This has to be some kind of sign that they're going to overplay their hand and fuck everything up at some point, right? Like this is bordering on some weird collective emergent mania/psychosis.
>>2466647Liberalism is fun because you can turn their rhetoric around against them fairly easily. I, the white man, would not even bother to have an opinion on any of that sort of thing, because it opens me up to being cancelled very easily. But then I go and I say, look at this woman from the global south who is a person of color, and look at her opinions. And they, being the royal they, the liberal faction, are going to have a lot harder of a time cancelling her for her opinions than they would me. So, we flip the fucking rhetoric around against them. Because all liberalism really is, for the majority of liberals, is just fucking rhetoric. Say the right things, get result. Use the right phrases, the right keywords, get result. Am I wrong? So, why would I, again, the white man, the group from the group, and a lot of these liberals believe in a sort of bio-essentialist take, wherein men are innately predatory, innately evil, and go and have an opinion on anything related to sexuality or gender or pornography. It's not my place, in the liberal framework, to have those opinions. But, within the liberal framework, the opinions of a person of color, who is a woman, who is from the global south, a lot more leeway in terms of being cancelled.
>>2466662I guess I would append this to say that:
I agree: she's not a good measure for where their vibes are at this very moment. She's always unhinged. So fair enough
>>2466653because there's
>christian right-wing ideologyand
>muslim right-wing ideology >>2466540INFETTATAdamn, this people.
>>2466561he brought a lot of sense humor when he declared covid fake news, and then died from covid, ngl.
>>2466668>>2466667the commoner perhaps because they don't benefit at all of being either of one religion or the other, but at the center of power level,
nah, it's more related to material things. the people in the Christian theology who spent a generation or two learning everything about their religion, and from that they earn money and obtain a lot of power, won't be learning something new because they are lazy people for one, and that what they learn won't be considered mastered by the scholars that mastered it elsewhere, thus they'll lose power. that's all.
I found this article interesting. This is from the hoover institute a right wing think tank that now is just trump shills but this article was written in 1998 back when they believed in le free trade. It's an article about sanctions, why they oppose them and why they don't work. Unfortunately any right winger who thinks like this today is 1. Powerless or 2. Has to pretend he does not have these views and adapt to protectionism to stay popular. I think it is well written for a right wing person
https://www.hoover.org/research/why-economic-sanctions-dont-workThis is the author
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_R._Henderson
>Why Economic Sanctions Don’t Work>Congress has gotten in the habit of imposing economic sanctions in order to punish foreign governments. It is a habit Congress should break. By Hoover fellow David R. Henderson.
>When I was a kid, the boy next door once played a nasty trick on my brother Paul: our neighbor held his cat in his arms, brought it within a few inches of Paul’s face, and pulled its tail. The suddenly angry cat bit Paul’s face. My brother and I were upset; the cat, we thought, should have bitten the perpetrator’s face. I think of that incident whenever I hear people call for economic sanctions against a whole country.
>When governments impose sanctions, the officials implementing the policy want to harm the dictator or bad guy heading the other country’s government. That’s the goal. What they do to achieve it is intentionally harm many innocent people in those countries by cutting them off—if the sanctions are effective—from food, medicine, and other goods that they need or value. The sanctions almost always work in a limited sense: they impose some harm on innocent people in the target country. But that’s not the goal. Nor is the goal to cut off the dictator from food, medicine, et cetera. You can be sure that Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro are not hurting for antibiotics or high-quality food. No. The harm that the advocates of sanctions want to inflict on the bad guys is indirect. They are yanking innocent people’s tails so that those people, like our neighbor’s cat, will lash out at whoever’s face is right in front of them. They want those people to see their own government as the enemy and to try to overthrow it.
>But people are smarter than cats. When people suddenly find food, clothing, medicine, and other goods in short supply, when they find themselves a lot poorer and focusing desperately on day-to-day survival, they will take the time to find out who is responsible. And guess what? They do find out. Although governments in embargoed countries like Iran, Iraq, and Cuba strictly control what newspapers, radio, and television report, one piece of information that is sure not to be censored is the role of outside governments in the country’s economic distress.
>Of course, those governments will exaggerate the harm done by the sanctions. Although socialism is what’s killing poor people in Cuba, for example, Fidel Castro has, for almost forty years, blamed Cuba’s economic problems on the “blockade,” his word for the embargo imposed by the U.S. government in the early 1960s. But he can plausibly make this claim because the embargo exists. Likewise, although much of the Iraqis’ pain is caused by Saddam Hussein’s diversion of resources to his war machine, the pain caused by economic sanctions is quite real.
>What do people in embargoed countries do when they find out that foreign governments threaten their survival? They want to do what the cat wouldn’t do: bite the hand or face of the perpetrator. In fact, I can think of no case in history where as a result of sanctions imposed by government A on people in country B, country B’s people overthrew their own government. It’s the stuff of novels, and not very good novels.
>To understand how people in embargoed countries feel, you will have to use your imagination. Picture yourself back in 1974. President Nixon’s popularity has hit bottom. Many Americans want him out, but he holds on. Now imagine that the head of a freer country—say, Switzerland—thinks Nixon is a vicious leader and imposes sanctions on us. Because of these sanctions, we can’t get medicine and we can’t feed our families adequately. We spend our days scraping for the basics we need to survive. (Of course this is implausible in the United States, which is why I said you would have to use your imagination.) Now ask yourself: Is your first thought that you should organize and try to overthrow the president?
>You can be sure that Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro are not hurting for antibiotics or high-quality food.
>I bet it’s not. For one thing, you don’t have much of a shot at succeeding. The Nixon administration is probably in charge of allocating the scarce medicine and food. But more important, you’re furious with the Swiss government. “Who are they to interfere in our country’s affairs?” you ask. So if Nixon offers you a war against the Swiss infidels, you’re likely to say, “Hell, yes,” and postpone thoughts of getting rid of your president until you’ve gotten those foreign bums off your back. And that’s probably how Iraqis are feeling right now about the United States and other governments that are participating in the embargo.
>THE CAPITALISM VIRUS>Economic sanctions simply won’t spark a revolution. History has proved this. But that doesn’t mean that things are hopeless. There’s an alternative way to undercut the power of dictators: kill them with kind capitalism. End the embargo. Let foreign goods flow into Cuba, Iraq, and Iran, so that the people there can see the fruits of a free society. Of course, Fidel Castro and other dictators won’t necessarily let those goods in, but then at least they’ll be the ones who are seen as the bad guys. In his book Dismantling Utopia: How Information Ended the Soviet Union, Scott Shane, who was the Baltimore Sun’s Moscow correspondent from 1988 to 1991, writes that in the late 1980s private entrepreneurs in Moscow with VCRs and reels of wire set up primitive cable systems. Needing content, they often used American movies like Harry and the Hendersons. The result: Soviet citizens saw average Americans with nice houses, refrigerators, cars, and high-quality food, and they said, “I want.”
>An especially important element of this strategy is unrestricted international sales of personal computers. The more PCs there are in unfree countries, the greater the number of people who will be able to log on to the Internet and discover what free speech and a fairly free economy are all about.
>It’s true that the Chinese government, for example, requires Internet users to register with it. But there are only two ways China’s government can enforce its rules on content over the Internet: monitor on-line users or use filtering software to block prohibited material. Both methods, notes the February 7 issue of The Economist, are losing battles. Monitoring becomes much more difficult as the number of users multiplies: More than 250,000 PCs in China are connected to the Internet, and the government expects the number to reach 4 million within two years. And the professionals needed to write sophisticated filtering software are being lured away to more productive uses by the private sector. Moreover, even if filtering and monitoring could work, many Chinese would still see a lot of things on the Internet that would undercut oppression in China. Although CNN and Time’s web sites are currently blocked, The Economist’s, for one, is accessible.
>The genie is out of the bottle. Let it out in Cuba, Iraq, and everywhere else too. Let’s end embargoes and allow free trade.https://www.hoover.org/research/why-economic-sanctions-dont-work>>2466653because even though islam is just another form of abrahamic conservatism, it requires you to pray in arabic and pray with brown people, and that's too far for burger judeo-christian zionists.
also they've been genociding muslims in several countries since 9/11 and they're afraid of more muslims in the usa = more revenge for burger war crimes.
>>2466758How the hell does something as arbitrary as gender become so polarized in opinions? Like, are the two genders not talking?
I'm not sure what the implications of this could be.
>>2466767Women have a lot to lose (abortion rights, right to vote or work and have financial independence) from reactionary politics becoming stronger. Men on the other hand have a lot to win, often at the expense of women.
For a lot of men getting to turn women into slave-incubators is just a complete win with no sense of guilt or barebones morality.
>>2466760they don't care about optics. fathered and sponsored by the US, they simply don't care.
they need to pay the consequences of their acts to even consider in engaging to some optics.
>>2466774Pretty much
>>2466775You just gave me paywalled dog shit dawg. Do better.
>>2466783>>2466789There’s a problem in all but one of these. It’s limited to liberal and conservative. This makes me seriously question the methodology of these studies, and i’m very curious they were able to represent an entire generation that is known for avoiding random callers and emails.
As for the exception, Gen z men still voted for Harris more than any other age group’s men. And that’s not even getting into the non voters.
It's less about women and more about men who don't want to try, and of course, the pervasive bio-essentialist idea of radical liberalism that men are innately the issue simply due to being men.
Anyway, here's a 7 page essay on how the frameworks that young men are being taught, are outdated by modern standards. Zoomers are the first generation to grow up in a consent culture, but our frameworks have not adapted to this.
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=922349&title=a-generation-of-young-men-caught-between-two-masksEssentially, both the liberal mask and the fascist mask offer nothing to the modern young man, and this causes men to internalize one of two viewpoints: I am bad, and should drop out of society OR I am bad, I should embrace being bad.
Thankfully, socialist thought continues to win over liberalism, the era of the SJW has ended, but the echoes of that very millennial culture continues to reverberate.
>>2466817Here is the Billiam video referenced in the essay.
Consider that the feminist frameworks of the millennials were designed for men whom engaged with Spike TV in a non-ironic, legitimate sense. The issues that they sought to solve, via the creation of a true consent culture, were real problems, the issue is, that zoomer man has grown up in this consent culture. Billiam's perspectives on the channel reflect the typical zoomer man's opinion on the overarching status quo of the early 2000s, in comparison, the average millennial and gen x man, probably did not have the same perspective, due to growing up before the establishment of this consent culture.
The rules of the game shifted, but young men were never given the new pieces to play with, because liberalism fundmentally cannot provide those tools, in the same way as socialism. This is our advantage.
>>2466809>we are reaching to levels of radlibery that shouldn't be even possible.now,
>Am I wrong though?women can be as bad, as dangerous, as genociders, as racists, as their counterparts.
they aren't "better", they are a reflection of a state.
>>2466815I have a suggest for a persons content to check out though. I enjoy reading studies, books, articles and so on in regards to dating dynamics, human behaviors and all that jazz but I see many flaws in the redpill things which I have seen for years and I also don't just conform to the 4th wave feminism tier things so anyway I like to just stick to data and facts. I like this guy who has a PhD in psychology field and is happily married. He often post on Twitter different studies in regards to human behavior, what works and what does not and how people act etc. worth a look. Not some grifter type.
https://datepsychology.com/https://m.youtube.com/@alex.datepsychhttps://x.com/datepsych?
>>2466694Enter it and leave it to us
Enter it and leave it to us
We swear we will shave their heads
Enter it and leave it to us
Enter it and leave it to us
We are free and we choose you
>>2466856
except my government is actively privatizing, deregulating, imposing austerity, busting unions, building more prisons, defunding education, destroying the environment, and poisoning me, while killing everyone around the world in my name with my tax dollars… and you say I benefit from this because…. my standard of living is falling but not as quickly as the people my government is killing… and not a single dead palestinian child has made anything cheaper for me, be it education or housing. if anything as my government gets more vicious and violent towards the third world, and rapes the global south for more resources, I see none of it, and do not benefit from it, which is one of many reasons I am against it.
yet you want me to believe i benefit from the bad things my government does. you know who else wants me to believe that? My government. you are a fed my man. you are trying to deradicalize people by telling them that they benefit from the way things are, but reframing it like you're an epic communist telling people to commit to revolution, or telling strassrites to commit suicide, depending on your (constantly swinging) mood.
and then you (?) have the nerve to say:
>>2466843
> I'm waiting for you to get off your lazy, collaborating asses and do something before I strike.
>>2466842>My gut keeps telling me the anti-feminist wave is gonna crash in a generation.It's not because Feminism and anti-feminism will keep their liberal outlook and so a part of a culture war. They are necessary for each other.
It is funny how feminism recycles the same tropes of patriarchy with some twist. From explaining womanhood mostly by men in terms of manhood to the many many versions of pathologizing(and medicating!) rejections of patriarchy, all reversed with a bow.
Welcome to my blog, and touchtyping practice.
In a way it's like when I was in highschool and it was the coolest thing to dress like a literal whore because it was feminist and empowering and sex was good. Of course it took some time to mentally adjust, get the new script of what's cool to say. But by second year I and pretty much all the boys were preying on all the first year girls. Their heads were just getting filled with all the sexual liberation stuff for the benefit of their parent's social status , but if you catch them early they haven't adjusted yet to filter all the way in which it is bullshit. So they were the sluttiest,easiest and most trashiest hoes, and dressed for the occasion. It was quite the funny dynamic where older girls (much more prudish despite being fully developed) would be "taking them under their wing" for various bullshit reasons, but actually, because without that, the older girls would see little action. Because they were now grown into full fledged feminists able to use their newfound social status of protected class. So they were jealous the dumber girls who wouldn't present you with a form before making out, got all the action.
It was a wild time, and a good referent to have to explain how adults acted later. I don't think I'd ever gotten to second base if it wasn't for those circumstances.
Partly because that was also the time where my school was having the whole "neurodivergent"(everyone is some flavor of ADHD, autism came later and wasn't nearly as fun to be medicated for) idpol stuff being pushed and the counselors and psychologists were over each other to prove who was woke-er and prescribing kids to *not* fix their problems, as was my case. Because that makes them "special" (and their parents love that, god I hated my parents). But that's another thing.
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