https://www.bhaskarenglish.in/amp/international/news/gen-z-charge-nepals-anti-corruption-protesters-parliament-building-police-water-cannons-tear-gas-135868694.htmlA thread dedicated to the inner happenings of the country of Napal, including the current anti corruption protests and the escalating government actions that have lead to 19 dead so far. Post all of your Nepal related discussions and info dumps here (at your own discretion of course).
546 posts and 136 image replies omitted.>>2481189>a single communist I approve of*There fixed that for ya
No way they tried censoring first. That's a sign of weakness. And boy they were weak. Lmao.
>>2481214now
>>2480083 comes Prashad and says "Oli’s center-right government", what does it make then the protesters? nazis?
I feel that Prashad missed some very key elements, and got out the way trying to make an article just for the funsies, and really not taking into account everything.
in particular when he doesn't mention that the woman got burned alive (and killed).
https://kathmandupost.com/columns/2025/05/20/a-downturn-in-the-windustry-sector EFFECTS OF WGOs ON THE NEPALI PROTESTS It's one of the biggest reasons that led to the color revolution in nepal is that the dozen of communist parties never clamp down on NED fuckery. In fact NED and USAID funding contributed hugely to the youth job sector. And went trump stopped the flow of usaid, all hell broke lose. The liberal fuckos of these NGOs after losing their jobs still run under their liberal programming like goddamn sleeper agents
>In an apocryphal story, Indian economist and Marxist scholar Ashok Mitra (1928–2018) narrates the career trajectory of a spoiled brat of one of the anti-communist caudillos of the 1950s. Once some of these military princelings from Paraguay, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, or Venezuela graduated from nondescript colleges in the United States, they would approach the World Bank or the International Monetary Fund in Washington, DC for a sinecure to stay away from political uncertainties in their home countries.
>Similar things were taking place in most client countries of the US. In Nepal, Vietnam hawk Ellsworth Bunker first operated from New Delhi in the late-1950s and then continued to do so through his partner, Ambassador Carol Laise Bunker, from the mid-1960s up until the early 1970s. The power couple of the Cold War identified, groomed and positioned graduates of American universities in key positions of Panchayat rule. Ambassador Bunker’s infamous assessment— “We have a democratic tradition dating back hundreds of years, and they have a hierarchical tradition. They should choose their own kind of government”—was music to the ears of loyalists of the Shah regime.NED fuckery in action
>Any data in Nepal is suspect, but it is said that the number of NGOs grew tenfold from about 200 in 1990 to over 2000 in 1995 and has since surpassed 54,000 by 2025. The country of less than 3 million population, almost one-third of it studying or working abroad, boasts more than 100,000 formal and informal social enterprises—which comes out to be one organisation working for every 200 people or so.American neoliberal NGO infiltration actually is a very good lesson on organizing. Because as it currently is, they are doing it better than us objectively speaking. SInce they have much deeper pockets.
>The Pakistani-British writer Tariq Ali calls such enterprises Western Governmental Organisations (WGOs) as they “buy up lots and lots of” political and social activists. The lapsed Marxist-Leninists of the UML variety and remnants of the authoritarian Shah regime (1960-90) continue to dominate the NGO sector to this day.Yep they recruited ex communists and shah secret police for organizing.
This is why i think authoritarianism in a leftist country in the current climate is a must have for objective of survival of an in power communist party.
>By the Rhododendron Revolution of 2006, the non-profit sector had become a significant contributor to the national economy. It was the employer of choice for the urban bourgeoisie of the White Shirt variety. The sector engaged an army of field researchers, consultants, experts and advisers to assist conflict resolution and peace-making efforts after the decade old (1996-2006) armed conflict. The support services flourished as hotels, travel agencies and car hire companies profited from a boom in the MICE (Meetings, Incentives, Conferences, and Events) tourism. They are fucking everywhere, taking the places of Marxist civil servants.
>Office rents in upmarket localities went up. In the neighbourhood the UN System at Pulchowk, the conversion of a relatively quiet Jhamsikhel and Dhobighat areas into the happening streets of Jhamel—patterned after touristy Thamel—was complete with newer hotels, fine-dining restaurants, upscale bars, popular cafes, pricey spas and even a few fancy boutiques. Due to higher pay scales and tax deduction at source, the NGO industry—hereafter the Windustry, a neologism to denote its dependence on Western donors and to differentiate it from other service industries—emerged as a significant contributor to national revenue.The influx of their higher wages further gentrified katnmandu to unlivable levels.
>>2481472>what does it make then the protesters? nazis?It makes them a disparate and disunified mass of people without any coherent political line, as will always happen in the absence of Revolutionary Communist leadership. Y'all want these kids to be right-wingers or liberal puppets so bad but they really can't be characterized in any singular way. The army and the government, monarchist and neoliberal respectively, can be viewed as unified entities. But the kids on the ground in Nepal can't be viewed as a singular entity any more than the Occupy movement or 2020's movement for Black lives in the US.
>he doesn't mention that the woman got burned alive (and killed).This is a rumor I see circulating in hysterical hindutva-aligned outlets in India but we have absolutely no confirmation of. The wife of another former PM was injured, but she didn't die.
>>2481861It would need to go further than that. Every NGOite would need to be gulag’d, along with second degree associates. If you don’t want to end up like Allende.
>>2481881>they really can't be characterized in any singular wayyeah,
you can't, because you are still believing you had a wholesome beautiful revolution in Nepal. Go preach communism in the Discord group, and let's see how that fares.
I know how it'll fare, because I tried, got banned, and I am sure what these people are.
>>2481902why are you even saying this knowing no one cares about it, the government beforehand was a right-wing "communist" party in name only, selling itself out to foreign powers on a dime, not much can be worse than that
>>2481920Running a hindutva government through western social media is far worse
>>2481925>hindutva governmentproof?
>>2468588 (me)
So narrativechads, is it winter yet? Or are flowers of (neoliberal) "revolution" still blooming?
I'd like to know where the well meaning western NGO led revolution went wrong and who *else* really is to blame for the resulting situation.
>>2481954Why are you still obsessing with shitting up and posting your 'dank maymays' into this thread?
is this what autism looks like?
>>2482033No need to be so pissy and sperg out like this anon, he's just gloating at being right lol
>>2482042>he's just gloating at being rightExactly, you mong, where do you think you are? this is a political discussion forum.
He doesn't post anything but this ego driven autism, i haven't seen him post any actual information at all.
Why don't fags like you two just hang out on
>>>/siberia/ which was literally made for you to do this no-mates shit?
>>2481954waiting for the evidence for your retard claims
>>2481836>NGOs and international NGOs combined received just 14 percent of Nepal’s total foreign aid in 2021. The government received 86 percent.Thank god the zoomers overthrew the USAID government
Nipple
>>2482044> where do you think you are? this is a political discussion forum.Lol so? In this political discussion he was right and you were wrong and now he's gloating about it, so what?
It's sounds like you're just mad that you were wrong tbh, like you're not posting factual information or contributing to the "political discussion" either, you're just complaining about other people's posts not being the way you want them to be, seemingly just because you disagree with his stance that this "revolution" was a western NGO op.
So why are you so upset at people having fun? Is it because it's at your expense? It's not like there's much new info to be had anyways, the happenings are basically over. I can only conclude this is some kind of a personal issue with you feeling embarrassed by his callout
>>2480304>that doesn't really make it any less of a color revolution if a foreign government besides the US yes it does, color revolution explicitly refer to the regime changes engineered by the US empire and its western vassals through their NGOs (because they all picked colors to refer to themselves)
the fact is the government was already working with the US (so theres no reason for a coup) and that one of the article point is precisely "if there was foreign influence it was india, but its not what was decisive, at most they will use the opportunity
>is kind of undercut by not offering any mechanism for it doing so <Since the 1990s, the Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS), the Indian RSS’s international affiliate, has quietly built shakhas (groups) and cadre since the 1990s. The HSS – along with a tentacular group of organizations such as the Shiv Sena and the RPP – has campaigned against secular policies and for a return to Hindu Raj. Rather than merely target secularism, the Hindutva bloc has focused attention on what it says is a revolving door of elites in Kathmandu that has held power ever since the monarchy was abolished in 2008. They frame their civilizational rhetoric around anti-corruption and charity, with mobilizations through Hindu festivals and through online influencers as well as selective outreach to marginalized and oppressed castes in the name of Hindu unity. This bloc, powerfully organized unlike the youth, has the capacity to seize power and to restore order in the name of the Hindu state and the monarchy, bringing back authoritarianism in the name of anti-corruption.if that isnt enough of a mechanism for you I dont know what is, but again the point is that the protest were likely organic and not a foreign influence thing
again, learn to read
>>2482071so basically saying things like
"we need more socialism in Nepal"
is retarded, and for that reason I deserved the ban?
You are a moron.
>>2482056check the thread. See for Hami Nepal, and their ties to the protester group.
>>2477970the on-the-ground event is that yet another colour revolution occurred and succeeded. Now keep defending NATO and keep crying about 'muh stalinism'.
>>2482336>again the point is that the protest were likely organic and not a foreign influence thingExcept it was literally a US NGO that organized the protests, the discord ""election"", maintained contacts with the army (which is the same army that fought an insurgency against the Maoists and it itself has contacts with the US) and told the protestors to go home in the end. Doesn't matter if there was real popular discontent against the government, it's still a color revolution. Why didn't Nepalese people ever just go out to the streets and overthrow the despotic monarchy in a few days in the 30 years between 1960-90? Why did the monarchy only concede to democratic elections after a decade-long Maoist insurgency and a constant back-and-forth on democratic reforms wrt legal parties?
See: www.asianews.it/news-en/Hami-Nepal,-the-NGO-that-led-the-protests-that-led-to-the-new-government-63870.html
>>2482388>it was literally a US NGO do you have any actual proof its linked to the US (because first, its not a US NGO at all, and second I couldnt find anything about it receiving funding from the US, not even your article claim this)
whining they mediated with the army is simply retarded, unless you'd have preferred for the army to gun down protestors
>>2483651
>muh globalism
cool but what about the gay frogs, and what about that source?
>>2482336> color revolution explicitly referthey refer more for the way they are inorganic in nature. I've described correctly how they are.
>>2469719that they are financed by western NGOs, it's because that's how they reshape the world to their interests, without a military conflict.
>>2483649>do you have any actual proof its linked to the USread the goddamn thread.
>>2482360Yes. It's also very funny that you and others honestly believe that a Discord server aligned with the army/police, the same army/police that has been suppressing the protests and whose repressive actions helped spark the protests in the first place, is somehow the genuine leading force in the movement.
Color revolutions only succeed after the ruling party has accumulated dozens and dozens of bad policy decisions and a history of mismanagement, please, I’d live to hear your defense of Nepali Congress, Maoist Center, snd UML
>>2483697>Yes. retard.
> honestly believe that a Discord server aligned with the army/policeEVIDENCE NOW, OR YOU'LL DIE OF RECTAL CANCER >>2483707The US had the advantage of being the only industrial power that didn’t get its physical capital destroyed during WWII, they can afford decades of bad decisions. Nepal is still recovering from the civil war, it cannot afford any policy mistakes (multiparty democracy after the monarchy being the primary mustake).
>>2483701>EVIDENCE NOWWhy exactly do you think the Army went along with their cute little ChatGPT pick for PM and swore her in? Do you honestly believe a
Discord server is the one with the real power here?
>>2483707>color revolutions succeed because they are financed by foreign actors.Braindead idealist take devoid of any real historical analysis. Internal processes are the decisive factor of change. External ones can only assist the internal.
>the US would have had dozens of presidents overthrownOr maybe the relationship of the US masses to the government's imperialist policies isn't what you think it is. Maybe imperialist extraction from the colonies and neo-colonies shifts national interests within the imperial core in such a way that the "bad" policies of presidents don't inflame the workers the way they would in a country like Nepal.
Thesis: This was an organic protest
Antithesis: This was an artificial color revolution sponsored by the US
Synthesis: There was organic outrage that was taken advantage of by India to turn into a color revoluion
>>2483722>Why exactly do you think the Army went along with their cute little ChatGPT pick for PM and swore her in? Do you honestly believe a Discord server is the one with the real power here?no evidence. I will accept this as your total defeat. enjoy your rectal cancer.
>>2483707>financed by foreign actorsno one tell him about lenin and the germans
>>2483743The Bolshevik revolution was not funded by the germans dumbass, nor was it at Germany's behest. They literally just let Lenin and a bunch of other rando exiles pass through their country to get to Russia, that was it
>>2483722>Braindead idealist take devoid of any real historical analysis.>fails to name one.
>Internal processes are the decisive factor of change. External ones can only assist the internal.Marx:
>“During the Serbian insurrection (1843), Russia, through the Embassy at Constantinople, pushed Turkey to violent measures against the Serbs, in order, on this pretext, to appeal thereupon to the sympathy and fanaticism of Europe against the Turks.”https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/ni/vol10/no11/marx.htminternal conditions alone aren't decisive actors. you can't outdone a state by being part of the state, and being outside of the state cannot bring you enough power to overcome the state.
>Or maybe the relationship of the US masses to the government's imperialist policies isn't what you think it is.>inb4, muh the US is le superior race, thus explains everything.go on, open your mouth.
>Maybe imperialist extraction from the colonies and neo-colonies shifts national interests within the imperial core in such a way that the "bad" policies of presidents don't inflame the workers the way they would in a country like Nepal.silly-ass reasoning: the US has so much corruption (6 times failed to audit the puntagon budget), so much hate for their own population with no rights at all (food, healthcare, water, education), blatant racism, and so much wealth accumulation, that their people still suffer from goods redistribution of those pillaged resources.
If foreign actors could meddle with the US system, the George Floyd protests could've overthrown the president. it didn't.
>>2481077epic skibidi gen z revolution
hitler does the flosssiiiiin
hitler does the flosssiiiiin
>>2481291
This. We need to support 1960s Indonesia
>>2483795That's a picture of Sukarno, y'know the socialist aligned one that was ousted by the CIA backed coup? What's so funny about him meeting with Fidel?
>>2483745that's a pretty big fuckin deal tho, the brits were saying lenin and later stalin were kaiser wilhelm plants until the 1930s
>>2483843You're talking to a r/ultraleft tourist, just ignore them
>>2481214It was Jhalanath Khanal's wife, but tomato toma-toe.
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