https://www.bhaskarenglish.in/amp/international/news/gen-z-charge-nepals-anti-corruption-protesters-parliament-building-police-water-cannons-tear-gas-135868694.htmlA thread dedicated to the inner happenings of the country of Napal, including the current anti corruption protests and the escalating government actions that have lead to 19 dead so far. Post all of your Nepal related discussions and info dumps here (at your own discretion of course).
Is this like the indo op
Color revolution
All eyes on the Revolutionary Communist Party of Nepal. They will be the primary ones with eyes on the ground and a finger on the pulse of the movement. This is a crisis produced by Prachandist revisionism, whether it can be revolutionary remains to be seen. Prachanda has ensured that a second civil war is inevitable.
Oh fucking damn, they’re talking about deescalating and “not turning into anarchists”. Very problematic.
>>2466166Prachanda was in an impossible position in 2005, he might have won if he had continued the war but that would’ve involved grinding both India and Chinese armies down.
Yeah, establishment hijacking is being attempted. This situation needs more surveillance on it.
Oli has resigned as PM
>>2467138And some are using this as an excuse to put an end to resistance. They dread the end of the nation, and have even demanded that the burning of government buildings cease. It is disgusting.
The reformists are panicking. Hopefully their sabotaging efforts are shut down soon enough.
>>2466334"My favorite podcasters said so"
>>2467174Fuck, I’m starting to feel like it’s already over. The army has “joined” up with some of the protesters, and now they’re defending police stations. And I’m hearing that the libs and monarchists are making moves. Shits going to be fucked if they don’t those fuckers locked down.
So uhhh are the Maoists just cucked after 2006?
This is clearly a color revolution
>>2467219There’s communists in government and in opposition, it’s a wash
>>2467219I disagree. However, I do think there are forces at work that are trying to turn it into something akin to one. And i think those forces need to be hunted down swiftly.
All this usage of the word “anarchy” is making my head hurt.
>>2467318The country literally has no government right now, what’s a better word?
>>2467235Was it also based for counter-revolutionary fascists to lynch Communists in Vengria 1956
>>2467325Chaotic, chaos, in disarray. It’s not quite organized enough to be anarchy or communism, and the situation is still on going.
>>2467333None of the communist parties in Nepal are actual MLs though, they’re Eurocommunists in a third world situation ie the stupidest position you could possibly have
>>2467355>Eurocoms Aren't they maoists?
Army chief was about to make a speech, but their offices were destroyed as well. Glad to see people are being thorough with this.
The air force and the Army are also trying to save politicians from lynchings and are evacuating them as well. The prime minister has fled.
And Kantipur media group, the largest media outlet of Nepal, was burnt as well
Appearently Nepal gov wanted to get closer to the US, just heard from a telegram channel though. Would be based if true
>>2467132Which ultimately determines the success of revolution: the gun or the people who wield them? Facing India and China is daunting, sure, but on a practical level Nepal didn't face the entirety of either army (they wouldn't actually need to "grind" them down as China did against Japan) and on a political level the Nepali people would not tolerate an invasion by either country and the Communists would have no difficulty organizing resistance against it. The Civil War becoming a national liberation war would have further united the Nepali people around a revolutionary banner, hence why I doubt China would actually invade, they're at least self-aware enough to know this.
>>2467212The faction led by Prachanda is. The Revolutionary Communist Party of Nepal and the reconstituted Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) have both been preparing to reignite revolutionary struggle for some time now, and are certainly on the ground in this struggle. A significant number of Nepali Maoist veterans are among the people engaged in this struggle, as the current society is not the one they fought for.
>>2467398The current coalition in power is an alliance between various "social democratic" parties and the reformist Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist–Leninist), which is very much influenced by eurocommunism.
>>2467448>The faction led by Prachanda is. The Revolutionary Communist Party of Nepal and the reconstituted Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) have both been preparing to reignite revolutionary struggle for some time now, and are certainly on the ground in this struggle. A significant number of Nepali Maoist veterans are among the people engaged in this struggle, as the current society is not the one they fought for.Not a maoist but critical support, hopefully the indian comrades get inspired and it helps them a little, heard they had some losses recently
Fools are attempting to push their puppets, their “leaders”, their opportunists. Attempting to use the shadows of chaos to establish and enforce their own governments, whether by taking over the autonomous resistance or by completely discrediting it. They must all be opposed.
The army definitely seems like the biggest priority right now. They shouldn’t be allowed the chance to reestablish themselves.
The maoists seem to be targeted now and are being blamed for vandalism
>>2467506And i’m hearing calls for the army in relation to this
>>2467232>>2467235Kek based truke. They were intolerable half a decade ago when I was reading about them and nothing is telling me they've improved since
Like if you manage to annoy me being PM twice and squeeze in another term afterwards, you're probably asking for it. I don't think they even did much during the revolution and mostly just sit around shitting up the post-rev government because they want to be in charge
Prachanda is also a retard who wants to align with India over China, which at least Oli prefers China.
>>2467489I think the army are just constitutionalist types tbhon, they never couped the communists and didn't resist the peace treaty.
>>2467519>I think the army are just constitutionalist types tbhonStill wouldn’t trust one bit, especially considering the lengths they went go to protect those from the old order.
>>2467533True, especially with
>>2467523Although every center of government has been burned down so it follows that they'd take over. But doing that successfully is something an army coup would do, especially after the recent failed ROK coup where simply burning down parliament could have saved it.
Yep, army is definitely taking advantage of the situation.
>>2467325Anarchy isn't "without government." You can have heirarchy without governance, and you can have governance without heirarchy.
>>2467506Source for this?
They definitely botted both the Nepal subreddits, which have “people” demanding that the army gun down and massacre people in the streets. These “people” have also demanded total cooperation with both the police and army, and call for national unity.
>>2467580Mainly general buzz, probably artificial in nature. No specific source, just seeing a lot of it in the feeds.
>>2467581Don't need bots for that. Just think of the class background of someone in a country like Nepal who would be using Reddit of all things.
>>2467584this. all those Reddits are filled with the most reactionary scum
The army has seized the airports, and is already arresting people on the streets. Said arrested are being sent to the police
Modi is “concerned” about the protests and is appealing for peace
Soo, is this based or a colour revolution?
>>2467662It’s looking complicated. Right now, any genuine resistance to the corrupt government is being vilified and coopted by security forces who rescued corrupt officials from angry lynch mobs. Said security forces are now locking the country and establishing their rule over Nepal.
>>2467662time will tell, just a lot of chaos atm
>>2467662It is based, yes.
>>2467683Nothing ever happens.
There are apparently armed groups about on the streets and hiding in buildings. There have also been signs of gunfire as well.
Use of force by the Nepali army will apparently be monitored by international observers, such as the U.N.
Contacting the RCP directly to see if they have a statement.
Yo im a brainlet, some1 jus tell me which side are we on
>>2467807Ive heard lots of buzz about the internet blockade being the inciting incident, but that the protests are really about "corruption", like in your pic with the flag. What they exactly mean with that corruption is unclear. Bit of a red flag imo. Seems very social media coded
>>2466085>>2466112>>2467219>>2467807Americans are not beating the marty fetishism accusations.
>>2467807>but that the protests are really about "corruption"problem is, GINI shows that "corruption" isn't an important issue. corruption has the consequence of wealth concentration, and this as a cycle, feeds back more corruption.
>>2467824you know, you could have used the same argument in Bangladesh, after I showed a low GINI number, and you would look stupid after Muhammad Yunus took power.
but hey, let's not beat a dead horse, there, shall we?
>>2467852 (me)
>problem is, GINI shows that "corruption" isn't an important issue. corruption has the consequence of wealth concentration, and this as a cycle, feeds back more corruption.meant to reply
>>2467813 >>2467852Well yeah that's why it is a bit of a red flag to me. Corruption is fairly common globally. It can be an easy rallying thing in the populist sense. Because most people understand a certain level of corruption is always happening. But that makes it like you said, it's not an "important issue", as in why are they getting all up in arms about that specifically, specifically now? As compared to corruption in Nepal before or in other places
Im not saying it's a color revolution or something btw, these are just my concerns
>>2467852I had no idea that Bangladesh was Actual Existing Socialism
>>2467865it was independent from Washington, yes?
This glows so fucking hard man the two main "leaders" are both influencers and the people who organised the first protests are a Coca-Cola backed NGO .
>>2467869No fucking shit, who could have thought, I am now convinced some neolib gets to rule and they are gonna purge the communists outright, probably some pro-India faggot
>>2467878
Tell me where are the communists in this protests and what are their demands?
>>2467880
No no you dont understand they were waving red flags and called themselves socialists which is all the criteria one needs to be a communist in the "imperial periphery". Actually as Indonesia shows you can be explicitly anti-communist and yet still be communist because terminally online contrarians dont believe in anything except the preservation of the status quo
>>2467858That's a wholla lot of nonsense.
The author relies on pure unadulterated idealism and shows no proof whatsoever.
And cherry on top: brazil is much more religious than the current day west, and his party has about as much influence as the average western communist group
>>2467883Sounds almost too good to be true
>>2467873and it still isliterally governed by a USAID laureated western-loving banker.
lmaogtfo, lib.
>>2467895
Oh no wont someone think of the poor politicians? Revolutions need to be peaceful and civil…Lenin would never do this…
>>2467898>all revolts are communist because da people bruh! democracy!get a brain
>>2467903The point is that it's really stupid to be criticizing revolts just because they're "violent" as if communist revolutions were historically achieved through tea parties and negotiations.
>>2467869Source? Who are these people?
>>2467883>>2467896Nice but who are these guys? They don't seem connected to any party, all I can find is some rando twitter account
>>2467908
>nihilist gang riots
Shut up hazoid
Until I hear back from them, here's a relevant point from a previous statement from the Revolutionary Communist Party of Nepal that many of you need to take to heart:
>In the past few years, there have been spontaneous rebellions in many countries of the world. In the absence of revolutionary party leadership in those countries, all those rebellions have disappeared as the high waves of the sea do. We all witnessed the spontaneous uprising of the people of Sri Lanka last year. The Sri Lankan military and armed police remained mute spectators. It was inevitable for the spontaneous public outcry to subside, and in due course that did. Let us imagine, had there been a genuine revolutionary communist party and even a small but committed army under its leadership, what would have happened in Sri Lanka at that time? When we talk of using force in the revolution, we must pay attention to such events. Besides, when we speak of developing the military line, we should seriously consider the development of science and technology. The crux of what Lenin meant when he said, "the concrete analysis of concrete conditions' is the essence of Marxism" and 'Marxism is not a dogma but a guide to action', remains here….https://www.bannedthought.net/Nepal/CPN-Maoist/MaoistOutlook/2023/MaoistOutlook-V6N1.pdfWhat has RT said? I need to align my position with theirs
>>2467921Pretty neutral reporting
>>2467919> 2023I suppose the it's a general "living condition crisis" causing the riots then?
>>2467939They clearly haven't meaningfully improved over the last two years if they're rioting now
>>2467931>>2467937Third hand news from a guy in Nepal. There are also additional reports of soldiers committees forming.
>>2467945 (me)
>>2467937>>2467931Apologies, its the Biplav faction of the Communist Party of Nepal (2014)
Has there been any official comments by any parties? I guess the PM stepping down is kind of a comment. Seems like they're kinda sleeping on the moment
>>2467955Ah, so the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) that I mentioned earlier in
>>2467448 Looks like Hungary 2.0
Sadly the chinese while based don't have the guts
I've not seen any of these so-called "revolutionaries" that some people in here is defending demanding for:
>more communism
>more socialism
>revolution inside the revolution
let that sink in.
>>2467959The CPN (UML) is about to have an emergency all-party meeting. I assume a statement denouncing the protests will follow soon after. The Revolutionary Communist Party has yet to make a statement but I (as one of my orgs) have reached out for a statement. Will get back if I get a response.
According to
>>2467955 the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) is involved with the Safal Committee.
>>2467974wake me up when you see the protesters carrying that pamphlet. my point still stands.
>>2467881Amerikkkans would never
>>2467978I mean, you'd fundamentally get a similar response from me. That being said there's a ton of Nepali people in the US who were driven out during the People's War for being compradors or monarchists. It's likely that his view of Prachanda is more colored by that than by his revisionism.
>>2467980Can you show the class a photo of any current protestor carrying any pamphlet?
>>2467989>That being said there's a ton of Nepali people in the US who were driven out during the People's War for being compradors or monarchists.Could be. I asked him when he left Nepal and he was like oh, around 2005. Hmm. At any rate, do you think the issue here is bureaucratization?
>>2468002It's not looking good
>>2467972>Statement: Burning the wife of another communist is not cool bruv, let me check the revolutionmeter with you©Should have learned some nepali, damn.
Well, as any happening, the search for livestream should be done, yt, zuckland, tiktok, anything to see the ground
>>2468013isnt this like marko rubio claiming castro stole all his family's shit while leaving under batista
>>2467972>the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) is involved with the Safal Committee.Still an incredibly nebulous source, so far no link to any party has been established imo
>>2468002Signs are not pamphlets. Dunno why that needs to be explained.
The video looks like it's at Prachanda's house. That people are tearing down the flag of the traitorous Party proves very little.
>>2468003>oh, around 2005Lmao
>do you think the issue here is bureaucratization?I wouldn't reduce it to that, at the very least. The bureaucracy is an issue, but in the main the reality is that bourgeois dictatorship and neo-colonial economic relations (extraction and dependency) were maintained after the capitulation of Prachanda. Bourgeois bureaucracy stems from this.
So basically what I'm getting is that the current government is corrupt as fuck and needlessly antagonized the youth with a social media ban among other things, but at the same time these protests are an entire gaggle of ideologies ranging from liberals to Maoists to outright reactionaries that want to restore the monarchy. The discontent is genuine but I worry it'll get coopted and we'll end up back where we started. It's a big "wait and see"
In any case though kinda ballsy of the protesters to burn down parliament. Wish Americans had a tenth of that energy
>>2468024>Signs are not pamphlets. Dunno why that needs to be explained. signs aren't pamphlets, now?
>The video looks like it's at Prachanda's house. That people are tearing down the flag of the traitorous Party proves very little.did they put a new communist flag to replace the old one?
lmao. you are too obstuse.
>>2468050Quick! What's the communist flag for Nepal in Hearts of Iron?
>>2468027I have yet to see any maoist presence amongst the protestors, on sm it's all le anti corruption/anti gov stuff, the only communist symbols ive seen so far is itt with the flag being torn down here
>>2468002 >>2468045>communism is when flags and aethetics>anti-communism isn't when flags an aesthetics.see how that goes.
anyhow, as I've posted elsewhere, socialist/communist policies:
>censoring and vetting western media is one of the best based ones.
>but the 2015 constitution is one, the land reforms (you can criticize it because it's slow, but it is there), the 2017 labor law that brought more broader and tougher protection, nationalized all the royal assets, and kept the state-owned strategic enterprises (can be criticized that they created a law that forbids nationalization, but they haven't privatized any state-owned industry/business).
I'm going to be honest, there's like 10 different "Communist" parties in Nepal and as an outsider it is near impossible to tell who is who because the names and branding are almost identical even if their politics are wildly different to each other.
All I know is most label themselves either ML or Maoist. But in reality, some of the ML/Maoist parties are just hyper-corrupt self serving bourgeois centrist neoliberals who use Communist branding and slogans, while ML/Maoist parties legitimately want a revolution and are begging for the opportunity to start a Protracted People's War.
If there is a civil war its likely there will be rival groups calling themselves Communists on both sides. It's bizarre.
Not necessarily against censoring (social) media to keep porky's influence in check but celebrating it when the rulling class does it when poors descend in the street to sabotage their communication? That's boot licking, France does it too and it has free healthcare unlike "communist" Nepal btw
>>2468083I mean it's not really different than the Bolshevik split from the Social Democrats. It is kind of fascinating how different groups end up reinventing Communism, Anarchism, Reformism and Fascism.
>>2468092Nepal does recognize healthcare as a basic human right, in the 2015 constitution. if they have troubles reaching out everyone that's another matter. you can't expect a poor country to get full coverage to everyone, like France can, because France literally exploits African countries.
>>2468083>neoliberalsthrow more buzzwords.
name 1 single state-owned entity privatized, lib.
one Maybe the communists should have governed better if they didn't want to be overthrown, ever think of that?
>>2468102>Get gud scrubHave you ever governed anything?
>>2468109No because governing is against at least several of my religions
Guys, I'm a retarded multipolarista anti-westoid.
Tell me 2 things:
>Who are the good guys? (bonus points if pro-china/russia, or negative points if pro-west)
>Are the good guys winning?
I'm brainded sorry.
>>2468127"Let's ask the weatlhiest business man to design our economic policy just like marx and lenin would have wanted, it's a total coincidence he became a billionaire after that btw no corruption"
>>2468029>signs aren't pamphlets, now?They never have been. Pamphlets are either a folded sheet of paper or small saddle-stitched book, generally they're propaganda in the Marxist sense. Unfolded, it's a flyer. Signs are neither of these, and are agitation in the Marxist sense.
>did they put a new communist flag to replace the old one?>I don't think this one guy put up a different communist flag at Prachanda's house therefore a nationwide movement is entirely reactionary and a color revolutionDo you have bricks for brains?
>>2468100i dont think you read or understood my post
From a website affiliated with the Revolutionary Communist Party of Nepal. Machine translated so there are some errors that I've done my best to correct.
The Gen Z-Millennial People's Uprising in Nepal and the Need for a New EraNepal stands at a historic turning point today. For a long time, the country has been burdened with a compromised parliamentary system, corruption, and anti-Nepali agreements, leaving the common people unable to breathe. The recent intervention by India and China in Limpiyadhura, Lipulekh, and Kalapani is a product of the compromised parliamentary system. Nepal is not only in a political crisis, but also in the throes of an existential crisis. For decades, the Nepali people have been humiliated and victimized due to the compromised parliamentary system, widespread corruption, anti-Nepali agreements, and the intervention of foreign powers. The lives of poor farmers, laborers, students, and unemployed youth are trapped in a cycle of misery and injustice. Brokers who rely on state power have imposed double and triple taxes, considered an economy filled with remittances as an achievement, and imposed a mountain of inequality, deprivation, and exploitation on the people. A more serious siege has been tightened on the issue of nationality. The game of Indian expansionism and Chinese influence over Limpiyadhura, Lipulekh, and Kalapani is an act of rubbing salt in the wounds of the Nepali people. This is not just interference from neighbors, but the result of the extreme failure of the corrupt parliamentary system and the treasonous tendency of the nationalist movement. This has once again confirmed that the existing structure in Nepal is not in the interest of the people under any circumstances.
As political instability, economic dependence, and foreign interference increase, the frustration of the general public has intensified. But frustration itself is not the final stage — it is from this frustration that rebellion is born. To overcome this situation, the Revolutionary Communist Party of Nepal (RCPN) launched an anti-corruption campaign on June 20, 2025. This campaign not only exposed bribe-takers, commission-takers, and contractor-brokers, but also exposed the fact that the entire parliamentary structure is anti-people and reactionary. It gave a clear message to the people — the problem is not in some faces, but in the entire system.
The crisis that Nepal is facing today is not just a general economic or social crisis, but a fundamental political crisis. History is our witness — when political deadlock deepens within the state, foreign interference inevitably takes advantage of it. The same sequence is repeating itself today. Therefore, the solution lies not in parliamentary restructuring, but in its complete end.
The inevitable alternative now is the establishment of a Federal People's Republic. To fulfill the task of new democracy. The people cannot be freed from this dire situation without crossing the threshold of new democracy and bringing Nepali society into the scientific socialist era. The Federal People's Republic is not just a political slogan, it is a system directly linked to the lives of the common people. It will lead the Nepali people on the historic path towards scientific socialism with the assurance of food, shelter, clothing, education, health and employment. The young generation has clearly understood this reality. The Gen Z and Millennial generations have almost the same feelings. Today, the youth of this age group are seen at the forefront of the rebellion. They have understood that reform is not possible within the parliamentary framework. Even if some faces are changed, the suffering of the people will not go away. It is necessary for the new generation to reject the games played by the broker generation and choose the path of people's struggle, people's resistance struggle and ultimately people's rebellion. Otherwise, it will be like 'old wine in a new bottle' like in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. There are also politicians and individuals in the older generation who are principled and not involved in brokering.
This path is difficult, the struggle is a difficult task, but it is inevitable. The main responsibility now is to organize the people and youth, expand the struggle, and use the rebellious energy in the right direction. When the people's struggle, people's resistance, and people's rebellion move forward in an integrated manner, only then will the Nepali people write their own future. The soil, water, and sky of Nepal are once again awaiting rebellious steps. It is the historical responsibility of today's generation to end the brokered parliamentary system, establish a Federal People's Republic, and begin the historic journey towards scientific socialism. On this path, the rebellious flag of the Gen Z-Millennial generation will be hoisted, and on this path, a new Nepal will emerge. This will be a true tribute to our martyred youth.
https://moolbato.com/2025/09/67861/This all stems from the idiotic decision to retain the bourgeois dictatoryship in the country. Prachanda path is one of the dumbest ideas ive ever heard and is completley disconnected from anything resembling proletarian dictatorship. I hate maoists myself and am a hardcore dengist, but fuck Oli and Prachanda for maintaining this retarded status quo.
To recap shortly, until 1990 Nepal was governed by a government directly appointed by the king, making it a de facto despotic monarchy. After 1990 some democratic reforms were implemented, but the king limited the power of elected bodies, annuled elections and backtracked on reforms. Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist-Leninist) emerged as the main legal Marxist party under this period. The lack of sincere reforms prompted the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist Centre) to launch a people's war against the monarchy in 1996. The armed struggle was ended as part of a peace deal which forced the king to enact democratic. He was stripped of his title as a king in 2008 and Nepal became a republic. Ever since the Maoists laid down their weapons, they also participate in electoral politics. In fact, CPN (UML) and CPN (Maoist Centre) have remained major political parties ever since along with socdems, smaller socialist parties and single small monarchist party. The smaller socialist parties seem to be ethnic/regionalist parties.
There have been two political parties MaoAnon claimed to be behind the so-called "Safal Committe", the existence of which is proven by a screenshot of a PDF document posted here. Both of these parties split from the CPN-Maoist, which split from the actual Maoist party, the CPN (Maoist Centre). One of them, the CPN (Revolutionary Maoist) was only able to secure 0.15 % percent of the vote the only time it participated in elections. The other party, the CPN (2014) has in the most humiliating fashion reconciled with the CPN (Maoist Centre) by entering into an electoral alliance with them and failed to secure even a single seat for the alliance. Both of the parties I have detailed are irrelevant splitters lacking any measurable public support. The fact that it is translated into English should already make any sensible anon suspicious (in contrast, major communist parties in Nepal seem to have zero English social media presence).
As for my opinions, I am only ready to trust a communist party with a considerable number of members who are actually able to carry out party work, whatever its nature may be. They are people who actually have stakes in the game and have a weight to their words. I don't trust a political party operated from a shack in the middle of the jungle any more than I trust the basement-dwelling shitposters of this website. Criticizing from the sidelines is something anyone can do, it doesn't change anything, doesn't feed anyone and is unable to change the social character of a reactionary movement.
The only thing I know about based on my own life experience is that there are an excess of migrant workers coming to the Eastern European country I live in. Why is there such a large outflow of immigrants from a relatively small country, compared to India for example? It is certain that a large group of young people are choosing to abandon their homeland along with any prospects of socialism being established there, because no matter how communist a country is, they will never be able escape colonial underdevelopmnet in a few years' time. Leaving their own country only reduces the productive power of their nation, not to mention the downward pressure they have on wages in their preferred host countries. Productive forces can't be developed purely through political action, thinking otherwise is magical thinking. A culture of emigration among young people creates distrust towards any political regime in their own country, be it liberal, communist, monarchist, etc. and only strengthens foreign influence in the final instance.
>>2468177It doesn't matter if every single critique in this article is correct. They are bluffing. They are irrelevant and have no sway over the protestors. The peope on the streets are not advancing Maoist slogans. They are using terms such as "Gen Z" that were created American sociologists working for investment companies and bourgeois politicians. We are uhhh young and uhhh we want the thing that is right now to be uhhh betterer and stuff. No real alternative, no real vision. Just chaos, manufactured chaos I might say that allows foreign interest to fish in troubled waters.
What's worse, this protest was supposedly sparked by a social media ban. Western powers are mad that their soft power tools are being taken away.
>apnews.com/article/nepal-protest-social-media-ban-89cf500969536cf2a35c3fb884cfa620>The demonstrations — called the protest of Gen Z — began after the government blocked platforms, including Facebook, X and YouTube, saying the companies had failed to register and submit to government oversight.HAHAHAHAHA
>But the protests spiraled to reflect broader discontentThey always do. Always. What alternative are these discontent people presenting? No idea.
>timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/nepal-bans-facebook-twitter-whatsapp-and-23-other-social-media-platforms-heres-why/articleshow/123711022.cms
>What’s blocked and what’s not
>Blocked: Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, YouTube, X, Reddit, LinkedIn, WhatsApp, Discord, Pinterest, Signal, Threads, WeChat, Quora, Tumblr, Clubhouse, Rumble, Line, Ino, Jalo, Sol, Hamro Patro, Mi Video, Mi Vike3
>Still Operational: TikTok, Viber, Wetalk, Nimbuzz (registered), Telegram and Global Diary (in process)Makes you think.
An afterthought: somebody should make a green glowing version of the Straw Hat Crew flag. First in Indonesia, now in Nepal. Right after the grand SCO meeting. Is it a coincidence? I think not.
Long live the Protracted Struggle of Workers, Peasants and Western Tech Companies!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Nepalese_pro-monarchy_protests
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nepalese_pro-monarchy_protests
The monarchist also have a party that gets like 5% of the votes. They are nothing more than troublemakers. I have seen some monarchist propaganda on youtube. They are very clearly an Indian soft power op.
All I'm trying to point at is that Nepal isn't foreign to Western influence ops. Now that India is aligning with China, the West has to intervene without intermediaries. So Gen Z it is.
>first Indonesia
>now Nepal
Asia's version of Arab spring happening?
>>2467584as opposed to the class background of le 4chan spinoff posters lol
>>2468143>I don't think this one guy put up a different communist flag at Prachanda's house therefore a nationwide movement is entirely reactionary and a color revolution>Do you have bricks for brains?do YOU?SEE
>>2468087 >>2468091Gen Z is Hami Nepal, and they are tied to western NGOs.
>>2468323>Asia's version of Arab spring happening?I am afraid so.
>>2468323It’s the first rumblings of a global economic depression. Just as the “Arab Spring” started due to the stagnation after the GFC, this is the post-COVID stagnation being exacerbated by Trump’s trade policy.
I’m skeptical that this is a glowop ordered by Washington or Europe. More likely it’s the Western NGO windup toys doing their thing when conditions were right.
>>2468539> this is the post-COVID stagnation >>2467807 4th picture.they recovered the growth rather quickly.
>>2468356Hey man, you'll get no arguments from me. This site is so petty-bourgeois it hurts to watch.
Case in point:
>>2468281>There have been two political parties MaoAnon claimed to be behind the so-called "Safal Committe"I haven't "claimed" anything. Someone else claimed that the CPN (Maoist) is involved with them. The most I've done is relay that in
>>2467972<According to >2467955 the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) is involved with the Safal Committee.The rest of this is basically a regurgitation of the Wikipedia article for the Communist Party of Nepal (Revolutionary Maoist), a party which this Anon seems to have not realized hasn't existed for years now (again, because they only read the Wikipedia article). That he calls the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) the Communist Party of Nepal (2014) is also telling. He thought the Wikipedia article title for them was their actual name.
He relies on decade(s) old data and hasn't engaged with anything
any Communist in Nepal (Maoist or otherwise) have written to the point where they didn't even read far enough into the statement I posted to know I had it translated myself.
It was not originally in English. They additionally don't know that the leadership of the CPN (UML) have Twitter accounts and websites where they post in English and Nepali, and that the Maoists translate
some of their statements because of their history of coordination and communication with other Communist Parties around the world. Weird how a supposed "Communist" can't fathom why a Party might translate their statements for others to read. Almost like it's an international movement or something.
They have done zero real investigation, have no real principles, and have nothing to add. Like "whatever its nature may be"? Have a fucking spine dude. Is there a correct line or isn't there? Are you listening or are you too lazy to commit to even an iota of discernment?
>the Eastern European country I live inThis explains a LOT, lmao. How's eurocommunism working for you dumb fucks?
>It doesn't matter if every single critique in this article is correct.It does, actually. The correctness of a line and analysis is in fact the most important thing. All other potential successes flow from that. As Lenin said:
<Numerical weakness? But since when have revolutionaries made their policies dependent on whether they are in a majority or minority?<https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/dec/15b.htmThis source is actually very important for you to engage with (your first bit of
real communist study, yay!) because it tackles the immature view of splits and ideological struggle you express here when you say:
>Both of the parties I have detailed are irrelevant splitters…and
>I don't trust a political party operated from a shack in the middle of the jungle… Criticizing from the sidelines is something anyone can do, it doesn't change anything, doesn't feed anyone and is unable to change the social character of a reactionary movement.What did Lenin have to say about the issue of splits against revisionist parties and leadership? (from the same source)
<But the day-to-day facts show that, precisely because they are afraid of a split, the “activity” of Pressemane and Longuet in France, Kautsky and Ledebour in Germany, is blighted by sterility! And precisely because Karl Liebknecht and Otto Rühle in Germany were not afraid of a split, openly declaring that a split was necessary, and did not hesitate to carry it out — their activity is of vast importance for the proletariat, despite their numerical weakness. Liebknecht and Rühle are only two against 108. But these two represent millions, the exploited mass, the overwhelming majority of the population, the future of mankind, the revolution that is mounting and maturing with every passing day. The 108, on the other hand, represent only the servile spirit of a handful of bourgeois flunkies within the proletariat. Brizon’s activities, when he shares the weaknesses of the Centre or the marsh, are blighted by sterility. And, conversely, they cease to be sterile, help to awaken, organise and stimulate the proletariat, when Brizon demolishes “unity”, when he courageously proclaims in parliament “Down with the war!”, or when he publicly speaks the truth, declaring that the Allies are fighting to give Russia Constantinople. He also said:
<In November 1914, when our Party called for a split with the opportunists, declaring that the split was the only correct and fitting reply to their betrayal in August 1914, to many that seemed to be a piece of insensate sectarianism coming from men who had completely lost all contact with real life. Two years have passed, and what is happening? In England, the split is an accomplished fact. The social-chauvinist Hyndman has been forced to leave the party. In Germany, a split is developing before everyone’s eyes. The Berlin, Bremen and Stuttgart organisations have even been accorded the honour of being expelled from the party… from the party of the Kaiser’s lackeys, the party of the German Renaudels, Sembats, Thomases, Guesdes and Co. And in France? On the one hand, the party of these gentlemen states that it remains true to “fatherland defence”. On the other, the Zimmerwaldists state, in their pamphlet The Zimmerwald Socialists and the War, that “defence of the fatherland” is unsocialist. Isn’t this a split?<And how can men who, after two years of this greatest world crisis, give diametrically opposite answers to the supreme question of modern proletarian tactics, work faith fully side by side, within one and the same party?To split doesn't put you on the sidelines nor does it weaken you. Against revisionist and traitorous leadership it is oftentimes
necessary for the revolution to grow in strength in the long term. What we are witnessing now is the total collapse of Prachanda Path politics and "Marxist-Leninist" revisionism in Nepal, and even if liberal or militarist leadership asserts itself from the top-down in the short term, these events have tilled the soil for genuine and more powerful Revolutionary Communist leadership to assert itself from the bottom-up in the long term. In breaking with the largest socialist party in the world at the time Liebknecht didn't have the automatic support of the majority of German workers. As Lenin points out only a few went with him then, but he represented the interests of the majority. That split is what enabled the Communist Party of Germany to become the vanguard of the German workers that they needed in the dark days of fascist rule.
Everything else in that reply is less-than-useless drivel that doesn't even warrant a response or analysis. The most damning thing is that this garbage is pretty high-effort for leftypol.
>Are they communist, the protestors?
<No, they are all liberals
>Do they affiliate with western NGOs
<Yes but…
>Are the usual suspects at play? NED, USAID,western firms and embassies, "youth organizations", generic westernized terms and liberal demands?
<I mean yes but you gotta…
>Ok so what do the (actual) communists say?
<Oh they are completely irrelevant but they are happy to claim the merits of anyone else. That's really all they do these days, statements about things completely out of their control.
>Hmmm, so it looks like a color revolution
<WELL NO YOU CAN'T JUST DISMISS THE PEOPLE'S STRUGGLE LIKE THAT!
<YOU GOTTA WAIT FOR THE ARAB ASIAN WINTER AND THE CORRECT NARRATIVE!
Aight, I'll take it the USA keeps winning.
>>2468560Please. Anyone who posts here should know how GDP and unemployment rates are gamed and misleading. That picture also doesn’t show any trend before 2019.
There was globally a GDP recovery but due to money printing it caused an asset price bubble and lots of inflation. And that recovery is gone because Trump has destroyed the rules of international trade.
>>2468588I don’t think the US/Europe care. Nor was the Nepalese government at odds with them. I doubt General Motors is going to open a factory in Nepal.
>>2468589>Please. Anyone who posts here should know how GDP and unemployment rates are gamed and misleading.post your not misleading statistics, then.
>There was globally a GDP recovery but due to money printingthe printing machine isn't in Nepal.
China is behind those protests because Nepal banned wechat
>>2468566>2467955 the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) is involved with the Safal Committee.there's no evidence about this, don't be ridiculous.
post them if you ever have them.
>>2468627obvs, this is an inter-imperialist conflict, critical support to the birds, cats, and dogs, the only ones totally neutral in this conflict.
>inb4 are you reptialianphobicyes, cold-blooded bitches.
What would Lenin say about student protests in general, from the Cold War to today
>>2468622The Nepalese rupee is pegged to foreign currency and a significant portion of their national income is from Nepalese working overseas sending money home.
>>2468638Birds are bourgeois and dogs are lumpen-proles. Only cats are proletarian.
>>2468629This is like talking to a rock I swear.
I'm just relaying what
>>2467955 said. Bring the issue up with him. I've also expressed skepticism of this claim.
>>2468679>I've also expressed skepticism of this claim.no, you didn't. adding an "According to", isn't "skepticism", when you used his argument to support a claim that "Safal" is
le based super-duper backed "Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)", therefore giving hopium to these posts
>>2467974, portraying an organization that has never existed before, no street presence, and (not all not) coincidentally appearing just now.
silly buffoon, plays with buffoonery, as if the semantics aren't pointing that you are supporting the claim.
>>2468706>no, you didn'tSee
>>2467937>therefore giving hopiumI don't think it's possible to express in text how hard I just rolled my eyes
>portraying an organization that has never existed before>coincidentally appearing just now.It would be weirder if this moment didn't produce any new organizations or alliances. Never seen an illegal movement on the streets before, huh? Teargas and bullets always have a way of bringing people together. I speak from experience.
>no street presenceYou simply don't know this. What would you need to see, some guy wearing a shirt that says "hello world I am a member of the Safal Committee and would like to be identified on camera!" just for you? Again, kinda making it obvious that you've never actually been involved in illegal struggle on the ground.
>>2468730>You simply don't know thisI've seen enough pictures, videos and statements so far: 0 communist slogans, 0 communist flags, shirts, symbols, chants, etc.
you are lying to yourself.
>>2468673all english signs against very vague "corruption" huh
>>2468736>I've seen enough pictures, videosYou have seen a handful of snippets from a nationwide uprising involving tens if not hundreds of thousands of people, and even then it's whatever snippets Nepali people with social media (we have already discussed the likely class background of many of these people
>>2467584) and the various algorithms have deigned to show you.
>statementsStatements from who, the police? So far the only time I've seen you interact with any statement from anyone is to reject out of hand the statement of a Communist Party in support of the uprising.
>>2468050Marx solved this issue but you people are too western pigdog brained to read him
a plain red flag is the flag of communist revolution
you dont need a vexilologist for that
To those alleging color revolution, note that the (until now) current government of Nepal had already been selling Nepal out to the US for decades. Under the Millennium Challenge Corporation and with the cooperation of all three presidencies, Nepal already was participating in the US military's encirclement of China and its resources were being extracted for the benefit of US capital. As per their agreement, the MCC and all officials associated with it are exempt from Nepali laws, Nepal is prohibited from opposing US policies in Nepal, Nepal must support economic liberalism in direct violation of its own constitution, Nepal must sell its hydroelectric power to India rather than using it for its own development, and the MCC is allowed to create its own independent electrical grid free from oversight by the Nepali government.
https://dialogue.earth/en/energy/biggest-us-aid-project-mcc-nepal-created-turmoil/>>2468792Damn, I wish Communists for the past 130 years had known that. Maybe then literally any of them would have used a plain red flag instead of unique national and Party-specific ones.
>>2468746waiting for an actual response other than seething about it
>>2468673NED and US aligned NGO vibes tbh.
>>2468835response to what? the fuck are you talking about?
>>2468027>So basically what I'm getting is that the current government is corrupt as fuck and needlessly antagonized the youth tbh sounds like a textbook bourgeois color revolution, coup d'etat or whatever you call these kind of glowing regime changes since '89
>YOUTH protesters>"corruption">"current corrupt gubbermint must go" >several very different political factions involved >generally unclear and vague situation, but there is violence >no communist vanguard leading an actual mass movementnext stage is usually the establishment of some kind of "transitional government" lead by some bourgeois or reactoid sack of shit
Reminder that the Cultural Revolution in China was spearheaded by students
Student protests are Maoism
>>2468949this is literally every revolution since 1848?
>>2468825Almost every country in the world is an economic lapdog of Washington, this is the truth nuke, regime change only happens because of geopolitical games and has no relation with the economic reality of the USA's economic domination of the world
Thus, "colour revolution" is missing the forest for the trees, as always, "nothing ever happens" so long as the fundamental economic reality remains in effect
>>2468961It's literally every reactoid or bourgeois coup d'etat/regime change since forever, these glow ops happen rather frequently in history.
There were only like a couple *actual* revolutions e.g. the October revolution, Mao, Fidel getting rid of Batista, the Vietnamese getting rid of the French and burgers etc.
>>2469023okay but why are these revolutions "real" and the others aren't, do you have an actual method for which you can distinguish them, or is it vibes?
>>2469023Even then fidel was US sponsered, he just betrayed them and told them to fuck off when he got into power.
>>2469043Lenin was sponsored by the Germans too, a point Russian anti-communist nationalists love to bring up
>>2469048I think thats valid to an extent but one man being sent back to Russia is pretty different to a systemic funding and arming of militany and rebel groups that the US does. Germany essentialy just gambled with Lenin whereas with the US its an organized political program dedicated to these sorts of "regime change" operations. The USSR and Warsaw pact were the culmination of that and because before the 21st century the phenomenon was poorly understood it took them by surprise (not like that idiot Gorbachev helped much).
>>2468894you being a little retard, that is
>>2469071The case of the USSR was an internal political failure. Keep in mind it is historically documented that Western glowies could never get spies in high-ranking positions, for the entirety of the Cold War. So what was the internal political failure? I think political apathy as a consequence of the purges under Stalin. State policy would become the only valid political expression, and hence, both bureaucrats and citizenry would see politics as the domain of the leadership, not their concern. This would culminate in the foolishness of one leader, Gorbachev, bringing the whole country down: because nobody cared to question him.
>>2469027Well i'm a communist, to me a revolution is an *actual* people's uprising, preferably lead by a communist vanguard party, with the aim of getting rid of class of society altogether or at least with the aim of getting rid of a foreign imperialist oppressor/exploiter (e.g. Arminius uniting all West-Germanic tribes against Rome, Palestinian resistance against the Zionist genocidal regime). A proper revolution must be in the interest of the unwashed masses, proletariat etc., not in the interest of a small faction of foreign or domestic assholes trying to enrich themselves.
A coup d'etat on the other hand is a job of professional spies and saboteurs. It's not an actual people's uprising, the usual "protesting YOUTH" are at best useful idiots (some of them might die) in the plot for the selfish interests of a small faction of people who want to seize power.
>>2469093Well yes its both of those, the US leverages existing political discontent and flaws to execute its operations. If there was no basis for revolt it would be powerless. The US has these flaws themselves and if Russia or China operate the global NGO intelligence apparatus the US does, I actually the believe that they could tear apart the US completley. The only issue is they are always forced onto the defensive because of america leveraging its already established position leaving them no "in" so to speak.
>>2469094okay so it's just vibes then, because there are plenty of revolutions that'd fit your criteria that also enabled imperialism, like the revolts in the spanish colonies in the 1890s, the various slavic revolutions in the 19th century, and so on, your argument is based purely on vibes and your personal feelings rather than anything concrete or substantial
>>2467978Please come again
>>2468301Imagine shilling for a monarch…
>>2468657Students don't exist in a vacuum.
>>2468672dogs are cops, birds are declassed revolutionaries, same with lizards
>>2468050t. useful lapdog
So I heard the MPs wife, who was burned alive, died? People online were saying she deserved it for being a beneficiary of corruption. What am I supposed to believe guys?
>>2469205Technically, it was a former Prime Minister.
>>2469212But it was the pm that stepped down like yesterday right? The communist one? His wife got burned alive and died?
>>2469215Former Prime Minister Jhala Nath Khanal from 2011 is the one whose wife was burned, I mean.
Former Prime Minister K. P. Sharma Oli is the one that stepped down.
>>2469217Ah I see thank you
>>2469148>*actual* people's uprising, preferably lead by a communist vanguard party
>is just vibesGo fuck yourself, you liberal pos.
>>2469147
wut
>>2469246I thought that was a funny response to you as well DDRanon, nothing you said had anything to do with martyrdom lmao, a complete non sequitur
>>2469166Students have a class and it isn't proletarian, as neither the intelligentsia is proletarian, and class conflict is fundamentally waged by classes
>>2469175Mindbroken by historical facts
>>2469245yeah it's vibes, not even the cuban revolution meets your retard criteria
>>2469093>Keep in mind it is historically documented that Western glowies could never get spies in high-ranking positionsAre you saying Yakovlev wasn't a western glowie?
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xcEnDHpMCc&t=899s 15.00
>>2469317>-Chief of the army staff making announcement in front of a picture of Nepal's first monarch Color coup.
>>2469312This lol. Russia lost the spy war and then lost the Cold War.
>>2468961no ….?
when the communists in the Korean Peninsula and Vietnam kicked the shit out of the colonialist powers (Japan, the French), there was clear communist vanguard and they clearly stated their intentions.
Fuck, even the liberal Cuban revolution was clear on what Cuba was kicking out Fulgencio Batista. The parties wanted a new constitution, then snap elections, while the students literally expressed their desire to resist and overthrow the government.
you talk like you know history, encompassing a date as old as 1848, you know shit.
>>2468982>Is this revolution still wholesome and valid?well, they burned alive the wife of this guy. and of course, some people celebrated it:
>>2467911very communist. to burn alive another person that calls himself communist.
>>2468825>To those alleging color revolution, note that the (until now) current government of Nepal had already been selling Nepal out to the US for decades.>for decades>post-monarchy state>government hasn't existed for over decadesyeah, since 1950.
my god in christ, you childman, the US/NATO managed to use Qatar, as a refueling hub for the same planes that killed some Hamas leaders inside Qatar. Fucking Scholz allowed Joe Biden to talk about the destruction of the gas pipelines, live, that had nothing to do with the US, because that was between Germans and Russia. ALL the fucking world trades somehow, someway, and with nato/the US, if that's what you mean.
And as per "selling Nepal", that's a vague, incipient argument: sold how? I asked another anon that said that Nepal was doing neoliberalism to show me how many state-owned companies have been privatized, he claimed later that I was confusing things (yeah, sure, lmao). So tell me, "selling Nepal out" how?
another colour revolution pushed by the amerikkkan deep state
amerikkka is standardising its supposed revolutions (aka lumpen-hooligan looting and carnage) across the globe
>>2468825you are a fucking moron
you underestimate the monopoly that American deep state has over literally anything anywhere on earth
>>2467714The UNRCPD is quite literally located in Kathmandu, lmao
this reminds me how some communists supported the uprising in libya.
https://communist.red/uprising-in-libya-tremble-tyrants/
>As in Tunisia and Egypt the revolutionary people are setting upcommittees to take control of the running of society.
>Engels explained that the state is armed bodies of men. In Benghaziand other cities controlled by the rebels, the old state has ceased to
exist. It has been replaced by the armed people, revolutionary militias,
which Lenin said were the embryo of a new state power. According to one
report, military checkpoints between Benghazi and Egypt to the east are
now manned only by armed militia. The young men carrying Kalashnikovs
subject a lorry driver to a desultory check. “But there is no government
any more!” the driver protests. The argument strikes the young men as
conclusive, and they wave him on with a smile.
>El Pais reports that in Tobrukthe people have set up popular committees and “a mood of revolution
pervades everything.”
they always find these workers councils but they mysteriously disappear when the smoke clears.
>>2469333yes and it has been true since 1848, if anything i'm actually being quite generous with that, most revolutions (liberal, proletarian, etc) are carried out by those people and the ddretard declares them arbitrarily "false" because he personally disagrees with them, with no actual criterion to prove it, the sorry state of this website is really eyeopening
>>2469302You're a liberal glowing MSM pos and you are butthurt because i refuse to call regime changes and putsches you fucks stage "color revolution".
>muh criteriaYou can call anything and your mother what you want according to your own "criteria" you made up in your twisted head, i don't really care. Everything what your kind utters is best to be ignored, because your intention is ALWAYS to mislead and make people dumber.
I'd put you in a gulag next to a nazi purely based on vibes though.
>>2469371you are so mad because i asked you for an actual explanation on why you take this vibes based approach to world politics, and no "You" would not put me anywhere, you're a weak impotent shithead who can't use basic thinking, if you get so damn mad because i happen to force you why you think with this black and white thinking, then so be it, given the flag you use you're probably in your mid 40s, i'd say relax before you give yourself a heart attack
>>2469357this is what reading one piece does to the youth's brains
>>2469372I gave you more explanation than your initial butthurt reaction deserved; while you have not t even give A SINGLE argument as of yet, not even the "criteria" you pretend to use. You are a dumb liberal fuck and you should get banned for low quality shit flood.
>>2469378okay here's the thing, i don't personally care about "fake" vs "real" revolutions, you do, i want to understand why people like YOU care so much about it, it's a simple ask with simple gains, i might just draw up one, just for you my ossi friend
Prediction: The coming liberal regime will be recognized by China and keep trading with them. Online MLs will then immediately forget about all of this.
>>2469376The more videos I see of these protests on insta and tiktok the more I am convinced this is an op 100%
>>2469379>i don't personally care about "fake" vs "real" revolutions, you do, i want to understand why people like YOU care so much about itMaybe it's because he's a communist and he wants actual revolution to happen?
>>2469382No this is probably the most authentic aspect of the protests. One Piece is insanely popular in many third world countries.
>>2469379>i don't personally care about "fake" vs "real" revolutionsExactly, you're just here to flood the board with drivel. And if you're the liberal idiot i think you are you're a terminally online liberal glowie and actually mentally ill.
>ossiYou just can't help yourself, can you, Koti?
>>2469388one piece is MK ULTRA lib cringe fest
>>2469379all wessis face the wall
there is no innocent wessi in this world
>>2469384I'm guessing this is what the Maoists are thinking too? Apart from the mysterious announcement of that "Safal committee" , which has no links to any known party. All parties have kept quiet so far, despite this being the third day of activities. Presumably they don't want to get ousted and/or killed when the army takes control?
>>2469384Mao Zedong Thought at least was an opportunistic „China über alles“, but Maoism is just random words which may or may not mean anything. Communism died in March 1953.
>>2469388I'm not talking about one piece, I'm saying that the vibe from all these protests videos screams westernized NGO NED op
>>2469395i dont know about chinese cartoons but its the kind of thing that some british or us thinktank/NGO thought they could leverage for the protest. same as all the gen Z langauge stuff.
>>2469397fr fr no cap lil bro
mad aura in these protests
boomers got a lot of crap from millenials but Gen Z is positioning itself to become the most cringe, liberalo-fascist, lumpen-hooliganist generation ever
>>2469397It reminds me a lot of the Georgia protests from a couple months ago
>>2469389i think you have a truly bright imagination, my ossi friend, because i am none of these things, and i am doing none of these things, i'm merely questioning you, and by extension others, on why they think everything that ever happens is funded by the CIA or [insert intel org here]
>>2469404Koti i can never be your friend because of the fact alone that you like to look down on Ossis and i do pity the people that are coursed to have you as a "friend", because you must be a truly insufferable person irl too.
>merely questioning you, and by extension others, on why they think everything that ever happens is funded by the CIA or [insert intel org hereIf you are the guy i suspect you are then this is actually true lmao. I always wondered what drives you. Is it narcissim plus a real pathologic obsession or are you simply a neoliberal opportunist think tank glowie who makes a living sucking off the bourgeoisie and "current thing"? Since you are quite evil and cunning but really fucking stupid at the same time i tend to the former tbh.
No way the bloodthirsty ziggers are crying cause the wife of a capitalist bureucrat got burned. Bro grow up.
>>2469094Is this the purist western left I've been heating about? Cause It looks like it
>>2469430Why is she tweeting in english if she wants to reach Nepalese?
>>2469439>communists has power in NepalBe real
Catching to the latest, and it is looking grim:
Nepali security forces have been deployed to the streets heavily and are now trying to shut down the protests. Currently, the streets seem to be deserted, and I do not know if that will change.
They have also essentially declared that all proletarians must be disarmed so they may continue their monopoly on violence.
There’s has been calls by some “protesters” for new leadership with demands, specifically with Sushila Karki. This group of “protesters” has also been communicating digitally, and has been in contact with the army chief. Personally, I think they need to be more worried about the military crackdown on any resistance against and not trying to make decisions for a large gathering of autonomous groups that probably have their own ideas on what to do next, but I get the feeling they don’t particularly care.
Kantipur Media Group has been set back a bit by the fires, so don’t propaganda out of them yet.
Tribhuvan International Airport has been reopened.
The U.N. has stated they would be investigating the Nepali security forces.
A few tidbits of the Nepali security forces
>Experts say that, just as corruption among Nepal’s leaders has often gone unchecked, the country’s security forces have often been allowed to act with impunity.
>Historically in Nepal, “there is very much an expectation that security forces will break the law,” said Rumela Sen, a lecturer at Columbia University whose research focuses on political violence in South Asia.
>“The general understanding is that if you get into any kind of confrontation with anybody who is remotely associated with the army, there is no chance for the common man to escape that encounter without being harmed,” Ms. Sen said.
>“The fear of uniform,” she added, “is deeply ingrained.”
>Much of that fear dates back to the civil war, when security forces were accused of using brutal tactics against a Maoist insurgency and of carrying out enforced disappearances, for which human rights groups say there has been little accountability.
>Security forces, including the Nepali police, “have always only been held accountable to their political masters,” said Ramesh Shrestha, an expert who has studied youth-led political violence in Nepal. “These people have always been protected.”
All in all so far, not looking good so far. All of this depends on whether or not people stand up to the army or not, and whether they let the “protesters” slide with their candidate or not.
>>2469442Obviously the real communists are not the massive communist parties, it's the seemingly non-ideological protestors that are rallying around sociological terms taken from Western social media discourse while also looting and vandalising anything they come into contact with
>>2469317>Chief of the army staff making announcement in front of a picture of Nepal's first monarchI’m so tired
>>2469441She's the real US NGO backed color revolutionary in all this!
>>2469459>Boohoo my bourgeois parliament has been burned downYour massive communists parties are a joke that don't even bother with implementing mild social-democratic policies to keep face.
Support the state, to hell with the bougie-ass protestors
Again the Nepali communists brought this upon themselves for entering into a coalition government with liberals and keeping """"""democracy""""" in the first place. If they get overthrown and murdered hopefully less retarded people can take their places.
Do we know who is winning the struggle?
>>2469495I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's gonna be the army
>>2469495It's most likely gonna be the army at this point.
>>2469495Neolib globalists. They just appointed Balendra Shah PM.
>>2469507>>2469505>>2469500Is the army on the side of the current communist government or someone else?
>>2469518>Balendra ShahJust read his wiki and this guy is doomed. The only way any real regime change will work in Nepal right now is if atleast India or China give their consent to it. India would probably be more likely just because the BJP is fascist and taking down """""communist"""" Nepal would be good optics for their base. But this guy is a Nepali irredentist who hates India. Modi isn't going to appriciate that at all, if any anti-India government gets put in Nepal military intervention by India is likely tbh.
>>2469509Note that the reason why you are hyperfocusing on this single billionaire that supported the CPN (UML) in the early '90s (when it was clear to everyone that autocratic rule will only bring instability) and hasn't associated with them every since is because of your communist ideology, something that the protestors clearly don't share, focusing on attacking the HQ of the biggest
opposition communist party. Why aren't these people calling the children of this billionaire "nepo baby" instead of their own elected leaders?
>>2469526For some reason Indian media is boosting this guy, but at the same time condemning the protests.
>>2469527
Except it isn't the communist leadership that is destablising the system. What's worse is that the protestors have no real organisation other than the algorithms of Western social media platforms and they will be easily defeated by the army which still seems to have monarchist sympathies
Revolution is generally a bad idea outside of the imperial core, these protesters are slowing the development of productive forces. This is too similar to the Arab Spring to support.
>>2469546As an imperial core citizen I agree, i need them to continue to work so I can get my treats
>>2469523I'm honestly not entirely sure. On the one hand, the president of the same government that's being protested called them in, but on the other, there's apparently a history of monarchist sympathy within the army according to folks here. I'll probably have to look further into the internal contradictions of Nepal that lead to this very moment and the history of all of the involved parties in order to provide a more detailed and informed answer beyond that.
>>2469317Looks like they didn't purge the army at all
>>2469554They need to make treats for themselves, not for any first worlder
>>2469563They didn’t. Not even the police.
>>2469362Kek, those Gen Z will be running and crying after realizing they replaced it with something worse
>>2469586nah they won't cry because their pea-sized brains will not even understand that they are worse off. Gen Z is a strong contender for the most retarded generation ever.
>>2469586I wouldn’t blame gen z when there are indicators signaling that something is afoot
>>2469526you have zero understanding of south asian politics if you think fascist BJP will oppose the Nepali government just because it claims to be 'communist'.
>>2469585A
JUCHE miracle is needed to reignite the nepalese revolution in a non-glow way
>>2469592NTA but testing the waters they either want the whole pie instead of just "negociating" "with" "a" "good" "heart" lol.
Post nepalese rev music
>>2469593>protestors are routinely shown with signs in English instead of native languageIt was always cringe, though?
braindead nepali zoomers think the solution to nepo babies is the monarchy lmao
>>2469648>think the solution to nepo babies is the monarchySomeone is speaking over the zoomers
>>2469653Whoever is funding them.
>>2469642Many of the signs are both in English and Nepali, and considering that English is one of the most widely spoken languages on the planet and well understood by internet kiddos it's hardly surprising that it's going to show up.
>>2469312>>2469323conspiracy theory, USA: :|
conspiracy theory, China: :O
When I say historically documented, I am talking about the historical consensus of actual historians.
>>2469364no, chums, color revolutions are:
<never define a long-term goal.<always have a broad-tent demand (overturning an election, overturning the arrest of a specific politician, overturning a specific state-decision policy, s-e-p-a-r-a-t-e-l-y).<if they gain traction, they demand for more, always the end of the administrative part of the state, i.e. governmental institutions.that's VERY different from what Cubans wanted, or from most of the communists wanted with their revolutions. are world apart from the western-backed color revolutions.
>>2469593wasn't always cringe seeing a group of people demanding the overturning of a western-social-media ban?
I know you can't live without whatsapp, facebook, and telegram, and yet, many states find that a threat to their national security, and curiously, the only ones protesting it are tied to western NGOs.
>>2469430yes, people in institutions under a communist rule are targeted as anti-communist pogroms, by anti-communists.
>>2469441people in there speak a lot English, i.e. see the the police says "City Police".
>>2469723Nepal is not remotely communist
>>2469723at best you’re defending Eurocommunism
>>2469439>>2469362you know, in these circumstances in time one should look simply how nato reacts:
<😡reeeeeeeee how dare people to attack democracy=
>no, no our puppeterino govermenterinoooo<😇 we are happy that the people are restoring democracy.let's put some statements from governments from nato:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-on-the-situation-in-nepal-fcdo-statement>The recent loss of life and violence in Nepal is appalling. The UK supports fundamental freedoms and respect for human rights, including the right to protest and peaceful assembly. We urge all sides to end the violence and find a peaceful way forward. backing the protestors.
(tell me how the UK government reacts when their people protest i.e. ending the Palestine genocide, how concerned they are about the "right to protest and peaceful assembly")
France:
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/press-room/latest-news/en/country-files/nepal/events/article/nepal-protests-september-9-2025>France is monitoring with concern the protests in Nepal, in which several demonstrators were killed. It offers its condolences to the victims’ families and loved ones.>France calls for restraint and for the respect of fundamental liberties, particularly the freedom of expression and the freedom to demonstrate peacefully.yeeah haha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_proteststhe French was never this motherly with the yellow vests protests.
United States:
>“We are deeply saddened by the violence seen in Kathmandu and elsewhere in Nepal today, including the tragic loss of life and injury during demonstrations. We extend our sincere condolences to the families of the victims, all those affected, and wish those injured a swift and full recovery. Our governments reaffirm our strong support for the universal rights of peaceful assembly and freedom of expression. We urge all parties to exercise maximum restraint, avoid further escalation, and ensure that these fundamental rights are protected.”lmao, the same US that let police officers to run over George Floyd protesters.
so, there you go.
it's their people.
>>2469740<😇 we are happy that the people are restoring democracy.*
=
>our puppets are (back) in control. >>2469740 (me)
>lmao, the same US that let police officers to run over George Floyd protesters.for reference, the "concerned" state about freedom of assembly, and so on.
>>2469740China's statement:
"It is hoped that all sectors of Nepal can properly handle domestic issues and quickly restore social order and national stability. China has already reminded its citizens in Nepal to pay close attention to safety," foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian told a regular press briefing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemint.com/news/world/nepal-gen-z-protests-china-says-it-hopes-order-stability-is-restored-soon/amp-11757490780488.html So… Maoist parties statements status?
There’s a stupid Nepali “gen z” discord sever that is strangely being taken seriously, and it annoys me to no end.
>>2469767>There’s a stupid Nepali “gen z” discord sever that is strangely being taken seriouslybecause has made public appearence across the riots:
>>2468673>>2467807 (see the QR)
Are they sending the army in?
>>2469773Already did. The army has unsurprisingly taken over.
>>2469762 (me)
I went to look myself and I found this statement from the RCPN from yesterday
<A protest is being organized across the country today, organized by Gen Z, against the ban on social media imposed by the Oli-led coalition government. During the protest, police used water cannons, tear gas, charged using lathis [Translator’s note: sticks made out of wood] and bullets in various cities of the country including the Kathmandu Valley. According to various media reports, 17 protesting youths have been murdered as of 5:15 pm [Translator’s note: as we said, now the death-toll reached 19 people]. Hundreds of other youths have been injured. First of all, our Party strongly condemns the police repression and murders committed by the Oli government on the youths who were protesting peacefully. In addition, our Party strongly demands that the government of Nepal stop the police repression, provide proper compensation to the families of the deceased, and provide free treatment to the injured.
<It is clear that the Oli government is becoming extremely fascist by banning social media and using force to suppress unarmed youth who protested against it. Our Party strongly opposes this. It is wrong for the government to suddenly close social media without making laws and regulating social media. Our Party demands that the ban on social media be lifted immediately.https://redherald.org/2025/09/09/the-nepalese-government-falls-revisionists-brutally-repress-the-people/https://moolbato.com/2025/09/67846/Not very fiery tbh
>>2469727>>2469729Thanks for clarifying, agent.
>>2469592>you have zero understanding of south asian politics if you think fascist BJP will oppose the Nepali government just because it claims to be 'communist'.Are you fucking retarded? It doesn't matter if the BJP are south asian or on the moon, fascists will always celebrate the downfall of communists don't be a naive dumbfuck. The difference is that the BJP doesn't actually care that much at the upper echelons of the party, but already I have seen plenty of Chaddis running around celebrating the downfall of Nepali communism.
>>2469721your actually retarded, social media is a tool to expose corruption why do you think the goverment wanted to ban it?
>>2471158Why not use matrix or something why does it have to be the same botnet corporate bulshit
>>2471169>Why not use matrix or something why does it have to be the same botnet corporate bulshitmajority of people use those sites, thats why
>>2471158Pravin Lal, why are you posting on leftypol?
someone get these kids some translated books, stat
>>2471158>your actually retarded, social media is a tool to expose corruption why do you think the goverment wanted to ban it?https://www.cima.ned.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/CIMA-Arab_Social_Media-Report-10-25-11.pdfhttps://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/files.cnas.org/hero/documents/CNAS_InternetFreedom_FontaineRogers_0.pdfdon't make it too obvious, fed.
literally the US has promoted and used the use of social media to promote their color revolutions, and selling these tools like an effective means of achieving their goals.
especially in the youth.
now, go back to feddit or whatever glowing site you came from.
>>2471631Social media ain't perfect but I rather have that than government controlled media
>>2471649What i mean both media controlled by the state and capital are bad, but media controlled by captial allows for more anti establishment ideas than state controlled. When you guys whine about muh color revolution, you forget that a lot the animosity towards the government comes from its own failings. Social media only highlights it and provides ideas for an alternative system.
>>2471649>ain't perfectsilly ass fed,
social media it's fed. a sovereign country can't impose ban on specific things even if they sue these companies, because they only listen in washington, what washington wants to promote:
>>2471679Citing ChatGPT should unironically be a bannable offense
>>2471707have the sources, bitch:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1863985>KARACHI: Social media platform X rejected several requests made by Pakistan for content removal as it found the posts not to be violating its terms and conditions, an official told the Sindh High Court (SHC) on Tuesday.https://apnews.com/article/meta-facebook-instagram-turkey-erdogan-59f16571e884fd6f0f9597a72771131f<Meta is fined by Turkey after refusing to restrict content on Facebook and Instagramhttps://www.thedailystar.net/world/us/facebook-turns-down-bangladesh-govt-requests-data-171238<Facebook rejects (Bangladesh) govt requests for data.https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/exclusive-egypt-blocked-facebook-internet-service-over-surveillance-sources-idUSKCN0WY3JY/<Exclusive: Egypt blocked Facebook Internet service over surveillance - sources>Egypt blocked Facebook Inc's Free Basics Internet service at the end of last year after the U.S. company refused to give the Egyptian government the ability to spy on users, two people familiar with the matter said.https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-laws-hong-kong-social-media-beijing-d27789b4edc7f43779cb5ef58856e4e1<Facebook, others block requests on Hong Kong user datahttps://freedomhouse.org/country/russia/freedom-net/2023>In 2021, Facebook received 11 requests for user information from the Russian government, but it complied with none of them.https://economynext.com/sri-lanka-ec-says-social-media-platforms-refused-to-take-down-87-contents-187078/>Sri Lanka EC says social media platforms refused to take down 87 contentshttps://apnews.com/article/brazil-supreme-court-x-social-media-alexandre-de-moraes-free-speech-3df6deba4d34a6bbddfde77cbf5719b9>Brazil’s top court justice orders X to pay $1.4 million fine for non-compliancehttps://apnews.com/article/nepal-censorship-social-media-e111d7de4ac8223088159182c664d1f2>Nepal internet crackdown part of global trend toward suppressing online freedom(MUH FREEDOM)
here, LOL at you, moron, cretin. stay mad, and pleb, not using the tools of capitalists against capitalist narratives.
>>2471751Government surpress free speech on the internet for its own interests. Im unsure how that invalidates my augment it's seems on the other hand to confirm it.
>>2469509Any evidence that some more authentic communists will end up taking power inNepal? Out of this? I want to be hopeful
>>2468825ja prachanda chor ko lado chus muji
>>2471834None, you do not fet the right to have hope on this. Masses are being weaponised by foreign powers and you have no way on affecting it. The world turns and you are just unaware of it, wanting to move against forces that outweigh you by thousands and with no connection or support to outweight them.
This is were you are and the unpurged army has already taken control of Katmandu and has called for negotiations with people who seem to glow
>>2472060>Cuba going> Nepalse revolution undone>usa and Europe chuddifying>latam pink wave breakingI hate it here
Day 4, Napalese maoist statement status? Maoanon said we should be "on the lookout" for them because they're "with the masses", but so far it's still quiet
>>2472363maoists love to talk big despite not being able to convince more than 12 boys
>>2472363lemme guess
>"Whatever is happening is a product of our theory sorcery and being-right-all-the-time-mancy!">"We back the people. The workers which we represent in a… uhh abstract way, not in a having a base or a movement way."<Turns out it was a color revolution all along<*Has literally not meaningfully participated of any of these events*>"Well comrades it went wrong because of <long polemics about their chosen tendency's bogeyman>"t. Every communist party not already in power, ever since the 90s
>>2472940theres people still calling popular uprisings with liberal democratic inferences "color revolutions" in 2025 bruh, like liberals only exist in america and nowhere else
>>2469335looks like a faggot with that stupid hat
>>2472375Even the revisionist-traitor-rightwinger-fuckwhatever CPN-UML GenSec Shankar Pokharel has a statement (I got it from the Russians who got from here).
https://en.himalpress.com/we-will-rise-again-says-uml-general-secretary/Translated from spanish
<Leader of Nepalese communists asks for patience and promises a resurgence of the partyhttps://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/564390-lider-comunistas-nepal-paciencia-resurgimientoNow, taking in account all the videos I have seen of english-speaking protestors, they don't seem like rabid monarchists or fascistic rightwingers to the camera. But one thing is 5 guys asked around and the another the mobs who burned alive the exPM wife.
https://en.himalpress.com/president-says-making-effort-to-find-solution-within-constitutional-framework/<PRESIDENT: I AM MAKING EFFORTS TO FIND SOLUTION WITHIN CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK>“I appeal to all sides to help maintain peace and order in the country with restraint,” President Paudel said, adding that finding a timely solution to the ongoing crisis is his top priority at the moment.>The President’s appeal has come at a time when people are questioning his absence during talks with Gen Z representatives regarding the formation of an interim government. Some had even suggested on social media platforms that the President could be under house arrest.POST MORE NEWSOURCES FROM THERE AND/OR GOOD TRANSLATORS Whoever ends up in charge, I hope they change the stupid flag.
>>2472940>posting dispropaganda's reddit tier memeslol, you follow him on twitter or smt?
>>2472944>like liberals only exist in america and nowhere elsesince when imperialism is only liberal? who ruled alongside the nazis, you imbecile?
>>2473057>you imbecilet. third worldist maotard who still believes fascism is a relevant political force since wwii beyond larping losers, like liberalism isnt the only form of capital rule today because it is the more efficient one to the flows of capital, and who has an ironically liberal (mis)conception of imperialism that boils down to government policy
Newfag here, Is this revolution glow in the dark?
>>2473060yadda yadda no answer to the question
cry about it, retard. I am right, this: "like liberals only exist in america and nowhere else" is stupid and retard, completely wrong.
>>2473101>no answer to the questionyour question was retarded and even explained why 😂😂 youre just illiterate
>>2466084< Kathmandu, Nepal | Gen-Z leader Diwakar Dangal says, "We are not capable of taking the leadership, and it will take us time to be mature enough to take the leadership. Attempts are being made to break us. Some of the party members have the misconception that they can infiltrate and create a division. This bloodshed is because of you (old leaders). If people start the bloodshed, then they would not survive. We don’t want bloodshed. We want to dissolve the parliament, but not to cancel the constitution."Lmao. The state and its constitution rule supreme. Democracy's trick is to absorb discontent without ever being shaken by it. That's the beauty of the bourgeois legal setup, the state and democracy turn your grievances into a defense of the capitalist system.
>>2473104you are the one who said that
>theres people still calling popular uprisings with liberal democratic inferences "color revolutions" in 2025 bruh, like liberals only exist in america and nowhere elsewhere
>there's nothing popular about it>there's nothing even liberal about isand implying that liberalism PROMOTE "liberal uprisings" only:
<OBAMA PROMOTED the ousting of Morsi, a lib. and what even came afterward? fucking Al-Sisi, not a liberal.and I asked then? who ruled with the nazis? what did they promote under their rule?
CONSERVATIVES, AND IMPERIALISM.
(also libs are de-facto a right-wing ideology, not that you care)
>>2473130>We want to dissolve the parliament, but not to cancel the constitutionwho could have seen this coming?
>>2473164the reactionaries will eventually overturn the constitution, I guarantee you that.
Chairman Mao on Mahendra:>I am against dictators but I also believe that the country should have a dictator like King Mahendra of Nepal.I hope Nepal retvrns to the kind of monarchy Mahendra espoused, ok.
>>2467214No.
>>2473085hang yourself NOW
>>2467214Sadly, Dr. Pangloss keeps being wrong and we are not in the best of worlds
>I hate nepo babies of the republic, so I want the monarchy back
good lord
>>2473242Mao is the most successful and smartest opportunist of all time
if only maoists could understand this
>>2472944liberals revolting in the 21st century = colour revolution
anyone with at least half a brain understands this
<mfw when I bust my nut but the corruption keeps her suction >>2469459> seemingly non-ideological protestors that are rallying around sociological terms taken from Western social media discourse…so, liberalism?
>>2469542>the protestors have no real organisation other than the algorithms of Western social media platformsI saw a lot of this topic on TikTok, it might be a CIA psyop, but also the atomized subjective experience of people posting their selfies and lip sync dancing is inherently liberal, like all the euphoric "Gen Z so silly" memes
>>2466084I'll leave a warning quote for those romanticizing depoliticized spontaneity who try to seek an "organic" movement against the "authoritarianism" of building the workers' movement for proletarian domination, defending economic sovereignty, and democratizing with popular councils for greater participation in the economy without letting politicians and so-called "technocrats" negotiate behind closed doors with the bourgeoisie. This is why the workers' movement must be independent of the bourgeoisie without exception and never regress to generic discourses of "corruption" that demonstrate co-optation by the bourgeoisie to privatize and surrender as lackeys to the finance capital of capitalist imperialism.
<Since there can be no talk of an independent ideology formulated by the working masses themselves in the process of their movement,[15] the only choice is — either bourgeois or socialist ideology. There is no middle course (for mankind has not created a “third” ideology, and, moreover, in a society torn by class antagonisms there can never be a non-class or an above-class ideology). Hence, to belittle the socialist ideology in any way, to turn aside from it in the slightest degree means to strengthen bourgeois ideology. There is much talk of spontaneity. But the spontaneous development of the working-class movement leads to its subordination to bourgeois ideology, to its development along the lines of the Credo programme; for the spontaneous working-class movement is trade-unionism, is Nur-Gewerkschaftlerei, and trade unionism means the ideological enslavement of the workers by the bourgeoisie. Hence, our task, the task of Social-Democracy, is to combat spontaneity, to divert the working-class movement from this spontaneous, trade-unionist striving to come under the wing of the bourgeoisie, and to bring it under the wing of revolutionary Social Democracy. The sentence employed by the authors of the Economist letter published in Iskra, No. 12, that the efforts of the most inspired ideologists fail to divert the working-class movement from the path that is determined by the interaction of the material elements and the material environment is therefore tantamount to renouncing socialism. If these authors were capable of fearlessly, consistently, and thoroughly considering what they say, as everyone who enters the arena of literary and public activity should be, there would be nothing left for them but to “fold their useless arms over their empty breasts” and surrender the field of action to the Struves and Prokopoviches, who are dragging the working-class movement “along the line of least resistance”, i.e., along the line of bourgeois trade-unionism, or to the Zubatovs, who are dragging it along the line of clerical and gendarme “ideology”.
<Let us recall the example of Germany. What was the historic service Lassalle rendered to the German working-class movement? It was that he diverted that movement from the path of progressionist trade-unionism and co-operativism towards which it had been spontaneously moving (with the benign assistance of Schulze-Delitzsch and his like). To fulfil such a task it was necessary to do something quite different from talking of underrating the spontaneous element, of tactics-as-process, of the interaction between elements and environment, etc. A fierce struggle against spontaneity was necessary, and only after such a struggle, extending over many years, was it possible, for instance, to convert the working population of Berlin from a bulwark of the progressionist party into one of the finest strongholds of Social-Democracy. This struggle is by no means over even today (as might seem to those who learn the history of the German movement from Prokopovich, and its philosophy from Struve). Even now the German working class is, so to speak, split up among a number of ideologies. A section of the workers is organised in Catholic and monarchist trade unions; another section is organised in the Hirsch-Duncker[33] unions, founded by the bourgeois worshippers of English trade-unionism; the third is organised in Social-Democratic trade unions. The last-named group is immeasurably more numerous than the rest, but the Social-Democratic ideology was able to achieve this superiority, and will be able to maintain it, only in an unswerving struggle against all other ideologies.
<But why, the reader will ask, does the spontaneous movement, the movement along the line of least resistance, lead to the domination of bourgeois ideology? For the simple reason that bourgeois ideology is far older in origin than socialist ideology, that it is more fully developed, and that it has at its disposal immeasurably more means of dissemination.[16] And the younger the socialist movement in any given country, the more vigorously it must struggle against all attempts to entrench non-socialist ideology, and the more resolutely the workers must be warned against the bad counsellors who shout against “overrating the conscious element”, etc. The authors of the Economist letter, in unison with Rabocheye Dyelo, inveigh against the intolerance that is characteristic of the infancy of the movement. To this we reply: Yes, our movement is indeed in its infancy, and in order that it may grow up faster, it must become imbued with intolerance against those who retard its growth by their subservience to spontaneity. Nothing is so ridiculous and harmful as pretending that we are “old hands” who have long ago experienced all the decisive stages of the struggle.
<Thirdly, the first issue of Rabochaya Mysl shows that the term “Economism” (which, of course, we do not propose to abandon, since, in one way or another, this designation has already established itself) does not adequately convey the real character of the new trend. Rabochaya Mysl does not altogether repudiate the political struggle; the rules for a workers’ mutual benefit fund published in its first issue contain a reference to combating the government. Rabochaya Mysl believes, however, that “politics always obediently follows economics” (Rabocheye Dyelo varies this thesis when it asserts in its programme that “in Russia more than in any other country, the economic struggle is inseparable from the political struggle”). If by politics is meant Social-Democratic politics, then the theses of Rabochaya Mysl and Rabocheye Dyelo are utterly incorrect. The economic struggle of the workers is very often connected (although not inseparably) with bourgeois politics, clerical politics, etc., as we have seen. Rabocheye Dyelo’s theses are correct, if by politics is meant trade union politics, viz., the common striving of all workers to secure from the government measures for alleviating the distress to which their condition gives rise, but which do not abolish that condition, i.e., which do not remove the subjection of labour to capital. That striving indeed is common to the English trade-unionists, who are hostile to socialism, to the Catholic workers, to the “Zubatov” workers, etc. There is politics and politics. Thus, we see that Rabochaya Mysl does not so much deny the political struggle, as it bows to its spontaneity, to its unconsciousness. While fully recognising the political struggle (better: the political desires and demands of the workers), which arises spontaneously from the working-class movement itself, it absolutely refuses independently to work out a specifically Social-Democratic politics corresponding to the general tasks of socialism and to present-day conditions in Russia.[…]
<Footnotes
<[15] This does not mean, of course, that the workers have no part in creating such an ideology. They take part, however, not as workers, but as socialist theoreticians, as Proudhons and Weitlings; in other words, they take part only when they are able, and to the extent that they are able, more or less, to acquire the knowledge of their age and develop that knowledge. But in order that working men may succeed in this more often, every effort must be made to raise the level of the consciousness of the workers in general; it is necessary that the workers do not confine themselves to the artificially restricted limits of “literature for workers” but that they learn to an increasing degree to master general literature. It would be even truer to say “are not confined”, instead of “do not confine themselves”, because the workers themselves wish to read and do read all that is written for the intelligentsia, and only a few (bad) intellectuals believe that it is enough “for workers” to be told a few things about factory conditions and to have repeated to them over and over again what has long been known. —Lenin
<[16] It is often said that the working class spontaneously gravitates towards socialism. This is perfectly true in the sense that socialist theory reveals the causes of the misery of the working class more profoundly and more correctly than any other theory, and for that reason the workers are able to assimilate it so easily, provided, however, this theory does not itself yield to spontaneity, provided it subordinates spontaneity to itself. Usually this is taken for granted, but it is precisely this which Rabocheye Dyelo forgets or distorts. The working class spontaneously gravitates towards socialism; nevertheless, most widespread (and continuously and diversely revived) bourgeois ideology spontaneously imposes itself upon the working class to a still greater degree. —Lenin
<Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, What Is To Be Done?, BURNING QUESTIONS of our MOVEMENT, II The Spontaneity of the Masses and the Consciousness of the Social-Democratshttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/ii.htm SS-veterans Sakari Haikala and Aarne Roiha were founding members of Maoist Finland–China Society,[10] and were also members of its board.[11] Lieutenant Colonel and fascist party MP Paavo Susitaival jokingly described himself as a "Maoist-Democratic fascist".[12][13] The pro-Maoist position among Finnish far-right was at least partially motivated by anti-Soviet position of Mao's China. Haikala said: "We visited the Helsinki embassy of China, and they showed anti-Russkie propaganda movies with massive cheering Chinese armies demanding attack to the USSR. We cheered also, this is the salvation of Finland. I still think that."[14] Kai Murros is a prominent neo-fascist thought leader in Finland who has identified as a Maoist.[15][16]
>>2474203100k is not enough to overthrow a government
>>2474209The total amount of 189k usd comes out to about 26,746,335 nepal rupees, which seems like a not inconsiderable amount of money.
they gave their fucking weapons to the military what the fuck are they stupid are they dumb are they HUH
>>2475043Sudan 2019-2020 was the tragedy, this is the farce
ok the husband of the favored interim prime minister(voted on via discord) was apparently a plane hijacker
Yup, protestors are quickly disarming and there's footage of them cheerfully giving their weapons to the army. Seems like they just want "good governance", which of course means absolutely nothing. What a joke lmao, all anons that were cheering and getting excited and making fun of people questioning the legitimacy of this uprising need to bow their heads in shame for being gullible retards
Napalese Maoists bought into champagne communism meme LMAO.
==JOIN THE NEPAL YOUTH DISCORD AND SPAM MAOIST AGITPROP
NOW=
https://fbi.gov/youthsagainstcorruptionMotherfuckers elected the prime minister on the discord site.
this one
>>2476681lmao
>>2476690Is this real communism in action
>>2477032Infuriatingly yes
>>2477125>>2476690This shit is so fucking stupid, and it will end horribly one way or another.
One Piece is fucking gay so I am now officially against the "Gen Z protests"
this is the new prime minister. guys, run a deep search on her. go on.
US liberal media call it "historic" 🙄 because she's a woman (ridiculous, because Bidya Devi Bhandari was president before, and was a woman)
now, let's run a breakdown on who she is, where she was, and what has she done, from present to past.
Education:
>Mahendra Morang College, Tribhuvan University (Biratnagar).>Banaras Hindu University (BHU), Varanasi, India.>Tribhuvan University, Kathmandu.Career:
>Karki began practicing law in Biratnagar in 1979. She rose through the ranks, becoming a Senior Advocate (chief legal counsel) and in 2009 was appointed an ad-hoc judge of the Supreme Court of Nepal.>A year later she was confirmed as a permanent Supreme Court Justice, and by July 2016 she became Acting Chief Justice and then Chief Justice.>As Chief Justice (2016–2017) she gained a reputation for zero tolerance of corruption and for upholding judicial independence.>In April 2017, members of the ruling Nepali Congress and Maoist Centre party filed impeachment charges against Karki (accusing her of bias in a police appointment case), which briefly led to her suspension.>However, widespread public and legal protest forced Parliament to halt the proceedings; the motion was withdrawn and Karki was reinstated until her planned retirement in June 2017.>She resigned on her own after that controversy, without ever taking partisan political office. Throughout her career she emphasized that she was never a politician by career – she styled herself as an independent jurist.>Karki has no formal party affiliation. As a judge she remained officially non-partisan. (She herself said she has 'never done politics' only spoke out on corruption and social issues as a citizen.>She also has personal ties to India: in interviews Karki described herself as a 'friend of India' based on her years studying at Banaras Hindu University>She expressed respect for Indian leaders and said Indo-Nepal relations are close>She has not articulated a detailed economic platform or ideological label. There is no indication she adheres to a specifically left‑wing or right‑wing economic doctrine; Nepali commentators frame her broadly as an anti‑corruption reformer.Family (very quick):
Her husban is Durga Bahadur Subedi who participated in the 1973 Royal Nepal Airlines DHC-6 hijacking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Royal_Nepal_Airlines_DHC-6_hijacking that wikipedia (without source) quotes that the motive was
>The main motive for this incident was to gather funds for an armed revolution to restore multi-party democracy by overthrowing the party-less Panchayat system headed by the King in Nepal, Mahendra of Nepal.Ironicbecause the party that defended her by walking out of the government coalition was the Rastriya Prajatantra Party, the monarchist party (btw, this is widely seen as ironic in Indian media). 100% real politik against communism.
>>2474203>training on using artOne Piece fanfiction
>exhibitions and community eventszine fairs
>foster civic debate and engagementtoo soon
>>2477265 (me)
guess who criticized the impeachment charges against Karki.
HRW.
HRW called it
>The Nepali government’s attempt to impeach the Supreme Court chief justice … is a politically motivated attack on the independence of the judiciary and should be immediately withdrawnhttps://www.hrw.org/news/2017/05/03/nepal-assault-judicial-independenceyou will never see this wording on US/NATO/EU countries (and friends of the US/NATO).
"Politically motivated"?
"should be immediately withdrawn"?
Not a prescriptive language following a series of internal laws respecting the state institutions, but rather a blunt direct attack and demand.
>>2477486It was at least a little bit communist before
>>2477511>Communism is when the parliament and firms replace their symbols for something redder- Garlos Margs
>>2477471Question! Will it hold? Or is this going to be another Sri Lanka?
>>2477512It's just a little bit more communist than not having that yeah, not everything is either or anon
>>2477520Well they got what they wanted so I don't see why not
>>2477471Hindu neolib. Hardly unexpected result. Anyone who thinks every outbreak of "public outrage" is of a proletarian character is a moron. The whole "GenZ" movement stunk of petty bourgeois.
>>2477533>It's just a little bit more communist than not having that yeahDon't drop out of elementary school, you can't risk it
Imagine if the nepalese civil war was named "the gen x revolution" back then. Is this peak genpol, are people so stupid to forget they age?
>>2477622It's ok to admit when you're wrong anon, you were cheering for the neolib uprising and now you've got egg on your face. No need to get all pissy about lol
Why the parties can't execute the neoliberals ?.
>>2477630Because it is unconstitutional obviously lol
>>2477630I'm only a casual observer, but my understanding is the Maoists never had enough popularity to easily win that kind of civil war so decided to go to electoralism.
I can't really blame them as it wasn't like they were getting enough outside support to attempt to shift to a socialist economy.
>>2477659Gotta make sure that the constitution is respected guys, we just wanna get rid of the corruption, end corruption!! That is the slogan of the people
>>2477665Maoists were literally winning the civil war but backed down when the UN threatened to intervene on behalf of the monarchy using the Chinese and Indian armies. Prachanda threw away anything that separated him from the Eurocommunists in UML and United Socialists.
At least with Venezuela you could argue they used the oil to enrich their neighbors and defend against American imperialism, what the fuck have UML, Maoist Centre, or United Socialists have done for anyone other than their own parliamentary cliques and families since 2006? This petit bourg rioting and Indian puppet government is their fault.
I think the reason why China doesn't give a shit (aside from the usual reasons) is mostly because they consider Nepal and other south asian countries as apart of Indias "sphere of influence" so as a result they are probably reluctant to do anything there. Only reason they support Pakistan is because Pakistan is strong enough to be a mostly independent country without being pushed around by India unlike Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc…
guys, let's make a discord server so we can vote on who gets to be the president of the united states
we really believe in fighting for the people and removing the bad politicians from power, we just want the best for the united states, so it will be legimitate
>>2477672reminder eurocommunism isn't real and basically saying otherwise is a stalin apologist mass holodomor now get back to voting bootlicker
>>2477533>Well they got what they wanted so I don't see why not1) the woman was elected because they see in her an incorruptible figure.
b) they corrupted the institutions by forcing the institutions to accept the election of a high-rank political under discord, which cannot be scrutinized, cannot be audited, and it's not even part of the state.
once they feel that woman isn't doing at all what they wanted, they are going to snap out of it and resume the violence.
>>2477706and of course! it won't be a glow up!
>>2477622>>2477512suck to suck when the glowops you cheered elects someone who isn't communist, isn't it?
>>2477517you cared. you replied 😘
>>2477802Yeah yeah I'm not saying it'll stay like this forever, but the situation seems stabalized/ing rn, it could take months or years for things to pick up again
>>2477845>tankies undefeatedIf you only care about being correct in “the discourse” sure, but actual ground events? You guys are like the Chicago Bears or Cleveland Browns
>>2477976
The CPC cannot really be called tankies lmao
Nepal is another example why reformism doesn’t work
Nepal along with Syria makes me lose hope in modern anarchists.
Literally the State lost control on a national scale in these 2 cases, and rather than building the alternative they vote for a new government.
Why? Because anarchists are failing in the education and leadership department. The masses will do what they are accustomed to, which is a “democratic” government.
>>2477970>If you only care about being correctas in opposition to only care to being wrong at the face of the events?
>but actual ground eventsI've already posted many of the "ground events" ITT: no communist movement behind the on-ground protesters (no visible or photos of them during the protests), no communist around the protests or burning the national assembly, the flag raised on the burning governmental building was the One Piece flag, didn't ask for more communism, no communist slogans or chants or goals by the One Piece crowd, no long term goals but rather a broad tent demand by the One Piece crowd that signals a full-color revolution, USAID related NGO "Hami Nepal", Primer Minister elected in fucking ԁіѕcоrԁ, a western glowsite that has been used by feds to raid whatever thing that threatens their precious state, without following the institutional order in Nepal, a woman that the monarchist party backed her up when she was removed in 2017.
did I miss something or can you add some "ground" events.
>>2477993Again, you’re correct but you aren’t actually on the ground changing anything. Nobody cares that it’s a counter revolution only that the prices of commodities they personally consume are going up
>>2478159Ehyup, that just about sums it up.
>>2478159half of the things you hear from that government I bet it comes from:
ex-pats linked to the monarchy state.
western NGOs.
and Nepsanos.
Wow, people are anti-communist after decades of "communist" neoliberalism? No way!
>>2478246Yeah, and that makes it hunky dory to conduct elections through fedcord? No way!
"neoliberalism"
name one state-owned company privatized.
one.
radlibs love to throw buzzwords they don't comprehend and then come in pretending they are communists
>>2478246>>2478256We're not doing this retarded fucking "who can lose the best" shit again.
Step back, take a breath, consult theory, figure out how you can contribute better to the analysis/discussion.
>>2478295Yup, it was a color revolution. Not like the regime that came before it was any better, but this whole situations a shitburger.
so no answer on how many state-owned enterprises were neoliberlized, huh?
just a reform bill from a 1994 law.
>zoomers saved Nepal from the neoliberal reformers
>source:
>I was told in a dream.
lmao
>>2477471I thought the discord thing was a joke.
>>2478304If this doesn't compel the Nepalese communists to unite and launch a real revolution, I don't know. No hope and Maoism was a mistake.
Who thought making a political system through discord was a good idea?
If it was it’s own app or even website it would’ve been better, discord could’ve literally taken the server down at any point and probably would’ve. I understand that maybe in a very short term organization scale discord could be used but for elections is braindead. Again it was nuked so who cares
LOOOOOOOLTake a guess who also congratulated the color revolution.
Fucking pig dalai pig lama:
https://www.dalailama.com/news/congratulating-the-new-prime-minister-of-nepal >>2466334>>2467817>>2467170Accepting your apologies at your leisure.
gen z revolution, discord, chinese cartoons, our favourite brands like coco cola this is so inspirational
>wan piss
its le reddit revolution just like in honk kong but it actually worked this time
You can't join the discord anymore, so much for democracy.
>>2472940Congrats, they elected a Hindutva neolib
>neolib gets voted in
>nothing changes
Tells you everything about the marxist leninists who ran the country lol
The reddit-discord revolution has succeeded in doing… nothing
>>2479539
>innocent
Uhm ashkually those were killed communists, which is reddit-discord downvote territory and NOT innocent (like big chungus keanu reeves). You have been banned from r/enoughcommiespam by the gen z rebellion, alerta alerta big chungus fascista.
>>2479539>>2479544cope and seethe ML, I WILL loot your people's small business during the revolution
MLs are punished to relive the fall of liberal USSR over and over again in the small states that were left like a neverending cacophony. Maoists justo be watching I guess.
>>2479582I thought mls were supporting the fascist bongs because migrants are used by the bourgeoisie to compete with the workers of the right color
Multi party democracy was a completely unforced error, Nepal’s several communist parties in parliament along with Nepali Congress are entirely to blame for their own demise here
>>2479592>>2479583>>2479582>haha if i just spam enough right wingers, i'll own da ultrazfuck your maoists, fuck your MLs, and fuck your liberalism
>>2479589Most of the British left is just pretending it's not happening tbh, outside of occasionally having a tantrum that everybody isn't playing nice together
>>2479592TRUE anarchism is being constructed in Rotherham, but tankies will dismiss it!
>>2479556>MLs are punished to relive the fall of liberal USSRNATO hasn't fully collapsed yet thoey
>>2479598your failing liberalism will simply create a new liberalism, not a shock either
Say what you will of China, they clamped down on the kids of CPC members flaunting their wealth on social media because they knew it would lead to something like what happened in Nepal just now, again more completely unforced errors from Prachanda, Oli, and co.
>>2479602also happened because it was a red social democracy
>>2479604Not an inherent issue there, Venezuela is still flying the chavismo banner
>>2467955>>2467960Biplav is more radical than typical establishment communists, the entire reason he was invited in was because he wouldn't stop bombing everything.
>>2479608The two big parties are ML and socdem, the new prime minister comes from the socdem party so all is well
>>2479608it holds more due to being a military dictatorship, rather than it also being a red social democracy
>>2479611Military dictatorships in Latin America usually don’t last past 20 years, Chavismo has been there since 1999
>>2479614it's not a standard military dictatorship, which is also why it holds
>>2479621you got a point against it or are you gonna make an aesthetic attack? in any case though, your liberalism (like that in nepal, etc) when it fails, will simply cause a dissident wave to come in, forcefully change things to be more western, which yet again is not surprising, same thing happened in the USSR, same thing also happened in many a soviet aligned state
>>2479622>yourDo you think I'm some BBQ in Nepal?
>>2479625are you literate?
>>2479626Literacy is a spook, real men shit in their hands
>>2479616holy shit nuke south korea
now >>2479593>fuck your maoists, fuck your MLs, and fuck your liberalismso, are you dildoing yourself with hitler's books, poltard?
>>2479699
Whatever happened to making an actual argument, instead of writing out fictitious strawmen of opposing views like a drooling water headed idiot?
>>2479708Died when the master debater was shot
>>2479699
Welcome back, Franco Freda
>>2479699
>Le Mao is Hitler, china is literally like nazi Germany guyyssss
Always the same memes with you retards, nobody is impressed pal
>#freetibet #freeeastturkestan
Lmao
We should wait for le ICP's analysis and statement.
What does [erikhoudini] say about this?
nepalese revolution status?
>it's clear this is a Western-backed color revolution
>all supporters disappear
>no apologies issued
Fucking slime.
>>2480038Every. Single. Time.
>>2478764>A week ago, Nepal said it would block access to 26 social media platforms, from Facebook to X and LinkedIn, for failing to meet a deadline to register in the country.
>Those that had registered, including TikTok and Viber, remained online.
>Nepal has restricted access to online platforms in the past, including Telegram in July.
>Last year, the government lifted a nine-month ban on TikTok after it agreed to comply with Nepali regulations.
>The government wanted companies to give them the power to "prohibit broad categories of speech such as 'misinformation' or content deemed to disrupt 'social harmony'", Felicia Anthonio from the US digital rights group Access Now told AFP.
>Swiss-based company Proton VPN said Monday that sign-ups from Nepal had shot up 6,000 percent in three days.
>Interest rose in Dorsey's Bitchat platform, which works offline and describes itself as way to resist censorship.
>"There when you need it," wrote Dorsey on X, citing a post describing a "sudden spike" in Bitchat downloads during the protests in Indonesia and Nepal."If you try and ban our propaganda networks or regulate our ngos we'll coup your government." China was right to build the great firewall.
>>2480056>be incompetent corrupt retards>press the Ban Fucking Everything button>get overthrownWhy would the CIA do this?
>the prime minister is a neoliberal, it was revealed to me in a dream
>this is a nato color revolution because uh the dalai lama and tibet
>this totally didn't happen because it went out of control when the police shot kids dead, everyone in the world is as cucked as me, an amerilard, which means MY intelligence agency orchestrated all of this
>>2480066Considering who is the the current president right now…
Wait I thought USAID and other glowie NGOs were all defunded and everyone got fired because America was becoming le based anti imperialist or something? How is the CIA still orchestrating coups and overthrowing noncompliant governments if all their NGOs are defunded?
>>2480073She got the backing of the street youths by promising early elections, so we'll see
Seems like a good article.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/09/11/five-theses-on-the-situation-in-nepal/Five theses on the situation in Nepal
<Following the resignation of Nepali Prime Minister KP Oli amid mass youth-driven protests, different narratives have circulated which simplify and misrepresent the complexities and reality on the ground in Nepal at the roots of this crisis.>>2469390I dont even read/watch it, but from what ive heard its has pretty based revolutionary vibes actually
Can't wait for 110% ᴉuᴉlossnW to get voted in and for the genocide of some random minority to start 😍
Dae Gen Z revolution wins again babay
>>2480038We can only hope they'll grow up eventually anon
>>2469384isis-k is pretty clearly a cia created group, dd geopolitics had a great article on it but now their shit is all paywalled
https://ddgeopolitics.substack.com/p/the-nato-caliphate-part-1
>The US is engineering these protests so that the military will have an excuse to establish a military dictatorship nah I heavily doubt the us created the protests, even if they prolly try to benefit from it
>>2480083>Vijay Prashad calls KP Oli center right>leftypol screams and vomits and cries that they've been overthrown because they had a red flagMany such cases
>>2480121The article is written by Prashad, the communists that were overthrown were a faction of Nepal's communists that were woefully opportunistic schemers, led by KP Oli.
Oli has been in and out of the PM seat like three times, and kept fucking around when the communists tried unifying. I'd be sick of his bullshit too.
>>2480075through the NED, the NED is not defunded, because although its fund used to be through USAID, they quickly funded it anyway once they realized it was their regime change tool and not something that funded vaccination in poor countries or shit like this
where are the maoists from the civil war?
why didn't they just take the streets and shoot the protesters (and the complicit police and army)?
they fought a decade long ppw to let a bunch of literal internet addicts ruin everything?
>>2480176Prachanda blew it, there are other Maoists like Biplav who are softly partaking but probably mostly waiting for it to play out
>>2480185what do you mean "blew it"? give me a serious answer, where is their command structure and political apparatus
>>2480193They were in power several times as part of a coalition, he was even PM three times
>Pushpa Kamal Dahal, also known as Prachanda, is a Nepalese politician. He has been prime minister of Nepal three times: from 2008 to 2009, from 2016 to 2017, and again from December 2022 until July 2024.Interestingly the first time he got turfed out was when he tried to unilaterally sack the chief of army who was around since the insurgency, this is probably where you can find the opportunity being fully blown.
If you want to start messing with the army after coming in democratically after an armed revolution resolved by peace treaty, you best make sure you have everything in order. Especially since everyone knows it's for the purpose of an autocoup.
>>2480101This shit happens every thread, and has for years. I give more of a shit about Kurds and Syria than any cheerleader of "Confederalism".
They will never grow out of this. They will bitch MLs and "fake communists", right up until they're shown to be wrong, then they quietly crawl away like the maggots they are.
>>2480226Vijay Prashad BTFO your retarded ass
>>2480226Yeah, they're all about acknowledging agency until it comes to the CIA.
>>2480206I'm not asking for wikipedia factoids you imbecile, do you even understand what the words "political apparatus" mean? these parties usually have networks of grassroots organizers and a base willing to contest the streets - that's how mass parties work. There are no spontaneous revolution, much less spontaneous protracted wars.
>>2480239Maybe if you don't want remedial facts explained to you, don't ask whether the third largest party in the country is still around
>>2480231Except Prashad doesn't disprove that this was a color revolution. He just says that
<Neither of these theories are totally incorrect or correct but are only partial and their partiality can be very misleading. Like even his characterization of the "color revolution thesis" is that the US is one of or the main external engineer of these protests, and his counterfactual seems to be that there are a lot of endemic problems that would generate protests organically. Which… yeah, that's true. But that's been a feature of color revolutions for a while. A country has problems within it that generate organic, genuine unrest, and when things come to a boiling point the US or its allies try to take advantage of that. And we know that that's a possibility because we have a post in this thread pointing out that the NED is operating in Nepal.
So yeah, while it is overly simplistic to just say that the US created and orchestrated this whole affair, I don't think that's exactly the argument that's being made either.
>>2480245Read
>>>/leftypol/2480176 again, I'm asking where is the apparatus, not the nominal party. Where are the living forces, not the politicians. If you don't know, or you don't even understand what I'm asking because politics for you is a set of wikipedia articles, don't bother replying.
>>2480176go read prashad rather than clinging to simplistic retard takes
>>2480249>where is this thing from 20 years ago tho?!?! Retard
>>2480248>Like even his characterization of the "color revolution thesis" is that the US is one of or the main external engineer of these protestsyou cant even read retard, he explicitly says if any foreign force meddled, its the indians
>>2480254Brother reality isn't social media, 20 years is nothing, you don't seem to understand the degree of organization and base support you need to field 20k troops and setup a parallel administrative structure as a non-state, revolutionary entity. You are too online and sheltered to understand what I'm talking about.
Again, where is the base of the maoist party? Where is their organizational muscle?
>>2480255>you cant even read retard, he explicitly says if any foreign force meddled, its the indiansHey, there's no reason to get upset. Here, I'll show you what I mean. First, that doesn't change the fact of how he characterizes the CRT.
<Color Revolution thesis: That the protests are engineered by an external force, most of the fingers pointing at the United States and at the US Congress’ National Endowment for Democracy’s funding towards Hami Nepal (established in 2015).And he portrays this as separate from the "Systemic governance failure thesis." Then he goes on to say that neither are entirely correct or incorrect in themselves.
But secondly, as for India being the most likely to interfere, that doesn't really make it any less of a color revolution if a foreign government besides the US is the one allegedly engineering and carrying out this coup. But also what he says is
<5. The external influences of the United States and India. The center-right government of KP Oli had been close to the United States. Nepal had joined the US government’s Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC) in February 2017, a decision by a left government that was hugely contested by large sections of the left. Due to the pressure from below, Nepal’s government stayed away from the MCC, but Oli’s center-right government welcomed John Wingle (Deputy Vice President of the MCC) to Kathmandu in August 2025 to hold talks about resumption of US aid and to discuss the continuation of infrastructural projects. Meanwhile, India’s far-right government of Narendra Modi sought to promote the role of the Hindu nationalist far right party in Nepal, which has thus far been at the margins. If there was any external activity in the 2025 protests, it is more likely that India, and not the US, had a hand in the events. However, even here, it is possible that the far-right wing in Nepal will merely take advantage of the collapse of the Oli government and the enormous sentiment against corruption."India did it" is kind of undercut by not offering any mechanism for it doing so outside the fact that Modi has an interest in boosting the far right in Nepal, right after you name a US agency and individual and it's material involvement with the government of Nepal.
So really it seems less like "color revolution theorists btfo" and more like Prashad saying "yeah a color revolution is likely but there's the possibility it wasn't the United States."
>>2480287Realistically they're all just living boring lives, emigrated, or dispersed among the several hundred or so communist parties. They're also probably completely demoralized over decades of completely useless dogshit from various brands of communist.
I'd probably be sat at home hoping they set KP Oli on fire. It's not like anyone made a serious attempt at finishing the revolution, so why would you think the infrastructure hasn't completely rotted? What exactly would they have done for this amount of time besides stuff their ranks with even more useless careerists?
>>2480313Bro stop replying I don't care about your imagination + you clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.
>>2480315Okay bestie, have fun waiting for the 45 year old Maoists with bad knees to come bail everyone out
Nepal has a really cool flag. Kind of subversive that it isn't just a rectangle.
>>2479532whose at fault when the masses are left without any class conciousness? the communists obviously
>>2479533I'm yet to see proof they've killed a single communist
>>2481189They’ve literally killed KP Oli’s wife, she burned alive in her house. Whether you consider CPN UML communist in any meaningful sense is up to you
>>2481189>a single communist I approve of*There fixed that for ya
No way they tried censoring first. That's a sign of weakness. And boy they were weak. Lmao.
>>2481214now
>>2480083 comes Prashad and says "Oli’s center-right government", what does it make then the protesters? nazis?
I feel that Prashad missed some very key elements, and got out the way trying to make an article just for the funsies, and really not taking into account everything.
in particular when he doesn't mention that the woman got burned alive (and killed).
https://kathmandupost.com/columns/2025/05/20/a-downturn-in-the-windustry-sector EFFECTS OF WGOs ON THE NEPALI PROTESTS It's one of the biggest reasons that led to the color revolution in nepal is that the dozen of communist parties never clamp down on NED fuckery. In fact NED and USAID funding contributed hugely to the youth job sector. And went trump stopped the flow of usaid, all hell broke lose. The liberal fuckos of these NGOs after losing their jobs still run under their liberal programming like goddamn sleeper agents
>In an apocryphal story, Indian economist and Marxist scholar Ashok Mitra (1928–2018) narrates the career trajectory of a spoiled brat of one of the anti-communist caudillos of the 1950s. Once some of these military princelings from Paraguay, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, or Venezuela graduated from nondescript colleges in the United States, they would approach the World Bank or the International Monetary Fund in Washington, DC for a sinecure to stay away from political uncertainties in their home countries.
>Similar things were taking place in most client countries of the US. In Nepal, Vietnam hawk Ellsworth Bunker first operated from New Delhi in the late-1950s and then continued to do so through his partner, Ambassador Carol Laise Bunker, from the mid-1960s up until the early 1970s. The power couple of the Cold War identified, groomed and positioned graduates of American universities in key positions of Panchayat rule. Ambassador Bunker’s infamous assessment— “We have a democratic tradition dating back hundreds of years, and they have a hierarchical tradition. They should choose their own kind of government”—was music to the ears of loyalists of the Shah regime.NED fuckery in action
>Any data in Nepal is suspect, but it is said that the number of NGOs grew tenfold from about 200 in 1990 to over 2000 in 1995 and has since surpassed 54,000 by 2025. The country of less than 3 million population, almost one-third of it studying or working abroad, boasts more than 100,000 formal and informal social enterprises—which comes out to be one organisation working for every 200 people or so.American neoliberal NGO infiltration actually is a very good lesson on organizing. Because as it currently is, they are doing it better than us objectively speaking. SInce they have much deeper pockets.
>The Pakistani-British writer Tariq Ali calls such enterprises Western Governmental Organisations (WGOs) as they “buy up lots and lots of” political and social activists. The lapsed Marxist-Leninists of the UML variety and remnants of the authoritarian Shah regime (1960-90) continue to dominate the NGO sector to this day.Yep they recruited ex communists and shah secret police for organizing.
This is why i think authoritarianism in a leftist country in the current climate is a must have for objective of survival of an in power communist party.
>By the Rhododendron Revolution of 2006, the non-profit sector had become a significant contributor to the national economy. It was the employer of choice for the urban bourgeoisie of the White Shirt variety. The sector engaged an army of field researchers, consultants, experts and advisers to assist conflict resolution and peace-making efforts after the decade old (1996-2006) armed conflict. The support services flourished as hotels, travel agencies and car hire companies profited from a boom in the MICE (Meetings, Incentives, Conferences, and Events) tourism. They are fucking everywhere, taking the places of Marxist civil servants.
>Office rents in upmarket localities went up. In the neighbourhood the UN System at Pulchowk, the conversion of a relatively quiet Jhamsikhel and Dhobighat areas into the happening streets of Jhamel—patterned after touristy Thamel—was complete with newer hotels, fine-dining restaurants, upscale bars, popular cafes, pricey spas and even a few fancy boutiques. Due to higher pay scales and tax deduction at source, the NGO industry—hereafter the Windustry, a neologism to denote its dependence on Western donors and to differentiate it from other service industries—emerged as a significant contributor to national revenue.The influx of their higher wages further gentrified katnmandu to unlivable levels.
>>2481472>what does it make then the protesters? nazis?It makes them a disparate and disunified mass of people without any coherent political line, as will always happen in the absence of Revolutionary Communist leadership. Y'all want these kids to be right-wingers or liberal puppets so bad but they really can't be characterized in any singular way. The army and the government, monarchist and neoliberal respectively, can be viewed as unified entities. But the kids on the ground in Nepal can't be viewed as a singular entity any more than the Occupy movement or 2020's movement for Black lives in the US.
>he doesn't mention that the woman got burned alive (and killed).This is a rumor I see circulating in hysterical hindutva-aligned outlets in India but we have absolutely no confirmation of. The wife of another former PM was injured, but she didn't die.
>>2481861It would need to go further than that. Every NGOite would need to be gulag’d, along with second degree associates. If you don’t want to end up like Allende.
>>2481881>they really can't be characterized in any singular wayyeah,
you can't, because you are still believing you had a wholesome beautiful revolution in Nepal. Go preach communism in the Discord group, and let's see how that fares.
I know how it'll fare, because I tried, got banned, and I am sure what these people are.
>>2481902why are you even saying this knowing no one cares about it, the government beforehand was a right-wing "communist" party in name only, selling itself out to foreign powers on a dime, not much can be worse than that
>>2481920Running a hindutva government through western social media is far worse
>>2481925>hindutva governmentproof?
>>2468588 (me)
So narrativechads, is it winter yet? Or are flowers of (neoliberal) "revolution" still blooming?
I'd like to know where the well meaning western NGO led revolution went wrong and who *else* really is to blame for the resulting situation.
>>2481954Why are you still obsessing with shitting up and posting your 'dank maymays' into this thread?
is this what autism looks like?
>>2482033No need to be so pissy and sperg out like this anon, he's just gloating at being right lol
>>2482042>he's just gloating at being rightExactly, you mong, where do you think you are? this is a political discussion forum.
He doesn't post anything but this ego driven autism, i haven't seen him post any actual information at all.
Why don't fags like you two just hang out on
>>>/siberia/ which was literally made for you to do this no-mates shit?
>>2481954waiting for the evidence for your retard claims
>>2481836>NGOs and international NGOs combined received just 14 percent of Nepal’s total foreign aid in 2021. The government received 86 percent.Thank god the zoomers overthrew the USAID government
Nipple
>>2482044> where do you think you are? this is a political discussion forum.Lol so? In this political discussion he was right and you were wrong and now he's gloating about it, so what?
It's sounds like you're just mad that you were wrong tbh, like you're not posting factual information or contributing to the "political discussion" either, you're just complaining about other people's posts not being the way you want them to be, seemingly just because you disagree with his stance that this "revolution" was a western NGO op.
So why are you so upset at people having fun? Is it because it's at your expense? It's not like there's much new info to be had anyways, the happenings are basically over. I can only conclude this is some kind of a personal issue with you feeling embarrassed by his callout
>>2480304>that doesn't really make it any less of a color revolution if a foreign government besides the US yes it does, color revolution explicitly refer to the regime changes engineered by the US empire and its western vassals through their NGOs (because they all picked colors to refer to themselves)
the fact is the government was already working with the US (so theres no reason for a coup) and that one of the article point is precisely "if there was foreign influence it was india, but its not what was decisive, at most they will use the opportunity
>is kind of undercut by not offering any mechanism for it doing so <Since the 1990s, the Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS), the Indian RSS’s international affiliate, has quietly built shakhas (groups) and cadre since the 1990s. The HSS – along with a tentacular group of organizations such as the Shiv Sena and the RPP – has campaigned against secular policies and for a return to Hindu Raj. Rather than merely target secularism, the Hindutva bloc has focused attention on what it says is a revolving door of elites in Kathmandu that has held power ever since the monarchy was abolished in 2008. They frame their civilizational rhetoric around anti-corruption and charity, with mobilizations through Hindu festivals and through online influencers as well as selective outreach to marginalized and oppressed castes in the name of Hindu unity. This bloc, powerfully organized unlike the youth, has the capacity to seize power and to restore order in the name of the Hindu state and the monarchy, bringing back authoritarianism in the name of anti-corruption.if that isnt enough of a mechanism for you I dont know what is, but again the point is that the protest were likely organic and not a foreign influence thing
again, learn to read
>>2482071so basically saying things like
"we need more socialism in Nepal"
is retarded, and for that reason I deserved the ban?
You are a moron.
>>2482056check the thread. See for Hami Nepal, and their ties to the protester group.
>>2477970the on-the-ground event is that yet another colour revolution occurred and succeeded. Now keep defending NATO and keep crying about 'muh stalinism'.
>>2482336>again the point is that the protest were likely organic and not a foreign influence thingExcept it was literally a US NGO that organized the protests, the discord ""election"", maintained contacts with the army (which is the same army that fought an insurgency against the Maoists and it itself has contacts with the US) and told the protestors to go home in the end. Doesn't matter if there was real popular discontent against the government, it's still a color revolution. Why didn't Nepalese people ever just go out to the streets and overthrow the despotic monarchy in a few days in the 30 years between 1960-90? Why did the monarchy only concede to democratic elections after a decade-long Maoist insurgency and a constant back-and-forth on democratic reforms wrt legal parties?
See: www.asianews.it/news-en/Hami-Nepal,-the-NGO-that-led-the-protests-that-led-to-the-new-government-63870.html
>>2482388>it was literally a US NGO do you have any actual proof its linked to the US (because first, its not a US NGO at all, and second I couldnt find anything about it receiving funding from the US, not even your article claim this)
whining they mediated with the army is simply retarded, unless you'd have preferred for the army to gun down protestors
>>2483651
>muh globalism
cool but what about the gay frogs, and what about that source?
>>2482336> color revolution explicitly referthey refer more for the way they are inorganic in nature. I've described correctly how they are.
>>2469719that they are financed by western NGOs, it's because that's how they reshape the world to their interests, without a military conflict.
>>2483649>do you have any actual proof its linked to the USread the goddamn thread.
>>2482360Yes. It's also very funny that you and others honestly believe that a Discord server aligned with the army/police, the same army/police that has been suppressing the protests and whose repressive actions helped spark the protests in the first place, is somehow the genuine leading force in the movement.
Color revolutions only succeed after the ruling party has accumulated dozens and dozens of bad policy decisions and a history of mismanagement, please, I’d live to hear your defense of Nepali Congress, Maoist Center, snd UML
>>2483697>Yes. retard.
> honestly believe that a Discord server aligned with the army/policeEVIDENCE NOW, OR YOU'LL DIE OF RECTAL CANCER >>2483707The US had the advantage of being the only industrial power that didn’t get its physical capital destroyed during WWII, they can afford decades of bad decisions. Nepal is still recovering from the civil war, it cannot afford any policy mistakes (multiparty democracy after the monarchy being the primary mustake).
>>2483701>EVIDENCE NOWWhy exactly do you think the Army went along with their cute little ChatGPT pick for PM and swore her in? Do you honestly believe a
Discord server is the one with the real power here?
>>2483707>color revolutions succeed because they are financed by foreign actors.Braindead idealist take devoid of any real historical analysis. Internal processes are the decisive factor of change. External ones can only assist the internal.
>the US would have had dozens of presidents overthrownOr maybe the relationship of the US masses to the government's imperialist policies isn't what you think it is. Maybe imperialist extraction from the colonies and neo-colonies shifts national interests within the imperial core in such a way that the "bad" policies of presidents don't inflame the workers the way they would in a country like Nepal.
Thesis: This was an organic protest
Antithesis: This was an artificial color revolution sponsored by the US
Synthesis: There was organic outrage that was taken advantage of by India to turn into a color revoluion
>>2483722>Why exactly do you think the Army went along with their cute little ChatGPT pick for PM and swore her in? Do you honestly believe a Discord server is the one with the real power here?no evidence. I will accept this as your total defeat. enjoy your rectal cancer.
>>2483707>financed by foreign actorsno one tell him about lenin and the germans
>>2483743The Bolshevik revolution was not funded by the germans dumbass, nor was it at Germany's behest. They literally just let Lenin and a bunch of other rando exiles pass through their country to get to Russia, that was it
>>2483722>Braindead idealist take devoid of any real historical analysis.>fails to name one.
>Internal processes are the decisive factor of change. External ones can only assist the internal.Marx:
>“During the Serbian insurrection (1843), Russia, through the Embassy at Constantinople, pushed Turkey to violent measures against the Serbs, in order, on this pretext, to appeal thereupon to the sympathy and fanaticism of Europe against the Turks.”https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/ni/vol10/no11/marx.htminternal conditions alone aren't decisive actors. you can't outdone a state by being part of the state, and being outside of the state cannot bring you enough power to overcome the state.
>Or maybe the relationship of the US masses to the government's imperialist policies isn't what you think it is.>inb4, muh the US is le superior race, thus explains everything.go on, open your mouth.
>Maybe imperialist extraction from the colonies and neo-colonies shifts national interests within the imperial core in such a way that the "bad" policies of presidents don't inflame the workers the way they would in a country like Nepal.silly-ass reasoning: the US has so much corruption (6 times failed to audit the puntagon budget), so much hate for their own population with no rights at all (food, healthcare, water, education), blatant racism, and so much wealth accumulation, that their people still suffer from goods redistribution of those pillaged resources.
If foreign actors could meddle with the US system, the George Floyd protests could've overthrown the president. it didn't.
>>2481077epic skibidi gen z revolution
hitler does the flosssiiiiin
hitler does the flosssiiiiin
>>2481291
This. We need to support 1960s Indonesia
>>2483795That's a picture of Sukarno, y'know the socialist aligned one that was ousted by the CIA backed coup? What's so funny about him meeting with Fidel?
>>2483745that's a pretty big fuckin deal tho, the brits were saying lenin and later stalin were kaiser wilhelm plants until the 1930s
>>2483843You're talking to a r/ultraleft tourist, just ignore them
>>2481214It was Jhalanath Khanal's wife, but tomato toma-toe.
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